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C
E
C
G
A
President,
thank
you,
mr
secretary
zach.
I
apologize
I
get
so
accustomed
to
saying,
madam
secretary,
please
let
the
record
reflect
all
members
are
present.
We
have
a
quorum.
A
Excuse
me
remember:
my
voice
was
slightly
off
this
morning,
so
I
apologize
for
that.
I
wanted
to
give
everybody
an
understanding
of
how
we're
going
to
proceed
with
today,
because
we
have
all
members
present
at
this
time
and
and
I
apologize
if
folk
were
under
the
impression
that
we
do
the
bill
presentations
first,
as
I
originally
intended
to
do
that.
But
I
have
all
members
present
and
I
know
folk
are
coming
in
and
out
with
bill
presentations.
A
I
think
it's
wise
that
we
take
advantage
of
all
members
being
present
and
that
we
do
the
work
session
document
first,
we'll
power
through
it.
I
understand
from
having
had
an
opportunity
to
speak
with
several
of
you,
where
we
have
some
opposition,
we'll
do
a
regular
roll
call
vote
and
I'll
ask
for
the
committee
secretary
to
do
that
for
the
bills
that
we
know
have
opposition
those
that
I
understand
have
unanimous
support.
I
will
simply
asset
you
and
mute
yourself
and
signify
by
saying
aye.
A
So
that
we
can
power
through
that,
in
addition
to
that,
as
you
see,
we
have
a
very
voluminous
agenda
this
morning.
I
don't
want
to
force
mr
mcdonald
to
read
every
single
word
of
the
work
session
document.
I
trust
and
understand
that
all
of
you
have
had
an
opportunity
to
review
those
bills
ahead
of
time.
A
I
will
ask
that
he
only
go
through
the
amendments
so
that
those
are
clear
on
the
record
and
then
we'll
take
the
I'll
ask
for
a
vote
at
that
time
in
terms
of
the
bill
presentations
right
after
the
work
session,
we'll
have
speaker
fryerson
present
his
bill
assembly
assembly,
bill
409,
followed
by
assembly,
bill
131
assembly,
bill
133
and
assembly
bill
408.
A
I
understand
assemblywoman
kasama
is
presenting
in
a
different
committee,
so
we'll
put
her
at
the
very
end
to
give
her
ample
time
to
conclude
her
presentation
in
the
other
committee
and
then
make
her
way
to
us
for
those
of
you
who
are
going
to
speak
during
public
comment.
I
know
that
we'll
be
doing
that
at
the
very
end
of
today's
meeting.
A
Members
recall
that
we
do
have
a
floor
this
this
afternoon
or
better
said
this
morning
at
11
30.
A
H
C
C
A
Assemblywoman
black
has
second
that
motion.
Remember
any
discussion.
A
A
H
H
This
amendment
would
place
the
program
in
the
division
of
child
and
family
services,
replace
the
term
task
force
with
coalition
designate.
A
human
trafficking
specialist
within
the
victims
of
crime
program
ensure
an
online
directory
of
services
for
victims
of
human
trafficking,
is
publicly
accessible,
require
the
coalition
to
provide
assistance
and
to
maximize
resources
to
local
trafficking
task
forces
and
may,
instead
of,
must
provide
resources
for
victims
of
human
trafficking.
H
A
I
A
J
G
A
A
H
Please,
assembly
bill
186,
establishes
provisions
related
to
the
issuance
of
citations
and
arrests
by
peace
officers.
H
This
was
sponsored
by
assemblywoman,
wynn
and
others
and
heard
in
this
committee
on
march
11th
we
did
receive
an
amendment
from
assemblywoman
nguyen,
which
proposed
to
amend
the
bill
to
remove
the
word
suggest
in
subsection
one
of
section
one,
thereby
allowing
a
law
enforcement
agency
to
suggest
to
a
peace
officer
that
he
or
she
must
issue
a
certain
number
of
traffic
citations
or
make
a
certain
number
of
rests.
H
The
amendment
would
also
add
some
co-sponsors,
including
assembly
members,
anderson
may
considine,
dickman,
duran
martinez,
assembly,
matthews,
thomas
and
vice
chair
torres,
and
that's
all
the
amendments
we
have
on
that
bill.
Thank
you,
sir.
A
A
A
I
think
I
heard
assemblywoman
black
first
and
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
give
it
to
her.
Thank
you,
madam
vice
chair,
assemblywoman
black
has
second
the
motion
to
amend
the
past
ascending
186
members.
Any
discussion.
A
Seeing
none,
please
unmute
yourselves,
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye.
Those
against
motion
carries
unanimously
and
I
don't
see
assemblywoman
gwen
present,
but
I
believe
she
would
probably
want
to
carry
this
particular
floor
statement.
As
I
know
she
worked
diligently
on
this
bill.
So
we'll
sign
that
floor
statement
to
assemblywoman
gwen
very
quickly,
we'll
go
back
to
assembly
bill
143.
A
A
Krasner
assemblywoman
crasher.
Thank
you.
I
did
not
realize
that
you
were
visiting
us
via
zoom,
so
we'll
make
sure
that
you
get
to
carry
that
floor
statement.
Thank
you,
chairman.
Flores
you're.
Welcome!
Next
on
the
work
session
document
is
assembly
bill
196.
Mr
mcdonald,
please.
H
H
A
A
A
H
Assembly
bill
268
establishes
provisions
related
to
peace
officers.
This
was
sponsored
by
assemblywoman,
krasner
and
others
and
heard
in
this
committee
on
march
26th.
H
We
have
one
amendment
on
this
bill
and
that
would
require
written
policies
regarding
the
use
of
force
to
be
posted
on
a
website
with
the
date
of
adoption.
If
feasible,
that's
the
only
amendment
we
have
for
this
bill.
Thank
you,
sir.
E
The
nevada
department
of
wildlife
should
be
exempted
from
ab268.
They
were
never
meant
to
be
included,
and
I
do
want
to
also
just
thank
the
washoe
county
sheriff.
The
las
vegas
metro
police
department,
the
naapp
and
the
attorney
general's.
A
A
Krasney,
I
am
looking
through
the
chat,
please
let
me
know
if
you
have
any
questions
specific
to
this
particular
bill
and
the
amendment
that
was
just
proposed,
seeing
none
at
this
time,
I'd
like
to
entertain
a
motion
to
amend
and
do
pass
assembly
bill,
268.
A
Hello
and
who
is
that
thomas
assemblywoman
thomas,
has
made
the
motion
to
amend
and
do
pass
assembly
bill
268
with
both
amendments,
the
amendment
on
the
work
session
document,
along
with
the
amendment
that
was
just
now
presented
by
the
assembly
woman
verbally,
do
I
have
a
second.
C
C
A
E
E
C
E
A
A
Thank
you
assemblywoman.
Next,
on
the
work
session
document,
we
have
assembly
bill
304.
Mr
mcdonald,
please.
H
A
A
Has
made
the
motion
to
do
pass
assembly
bill
304
and
the
second
was
from
whom
assemblywoman
brown
may
have.
Second,
that
motion
remembers
any
discussion.
A
A
H
This
was
sponsored
by
assemblyman,
o'neill
and
others
and
hurting
this
committee
on
march
25th,
as
discussed
as
at
the
hearing,
assemblyman
o'neill
proposes
to
allow
the
counseling
of
fire
police
and
firefighters
to
occur
up
to
three
months
after
the
retirement,
and
I
believe
mr
o'neal
has
a
couple
other
things
he
would
like
to
propose.
I
believe
he's
on
on
the
zoom.
C
This
in
section
one
one
sub
b,
it
currently
reads
two
hours
of
counseling
from
a
mental
health,
professional
I'd
like
to
change
that
to
with
a
mental
health
professional.
So
it's
changing
the
word
from
to
with
and
then.
B
C
I
do
not
anticipate
any
physical
note
being
added
since.
A
Thank
you,
assemblyman
members.
At
this
time,
I'd
like
to
entertain
a
motion
to
amend
and
do
pass
assembly
bill
315
with
the
amendment
proposed
section
document,
along
with
the
two
amendments
proposed
verbally
by
assemblyman
o'neill,
to
change
the
word
from
to
with
it
and
to
add
a
section
c
to
include
correctional
officers.
A
Mr
chairman
yeah,
let
me
let
me
do
this
and
mr
ellison
I'll
go
right
back
to
you.
Assemblywoman
dickman
has
made
the
motion
to
amend
and
do
pass
with
the
verbal
amendments,
along
with
the
amendment
presented
on
the
work
session
document
and
assemblywoman
constantine
has
second
that
motion
members
any
discussion,
mr
allison,
please
thank
you,
mr.
F
A
A
Today,
thank
you,
assemblyman
next
document
on
the
work
session.
Excuse
me
next
bill
in
the
work
session
document
is
assembly
bill
316.
Mr
mcdonald,
please.
H
H
It
would
increase
the
civil
penalty
from
one
thousand
dollars
to
ten
thousand
dollars
and
then
mr
assemblyman
o'neill
did
send
in
another
amendment
a
friendly
amendment
that
was
proposed
by
mr
nathan
lawrence,
which
proposes
to
amend
the
bill
to
create
an
exception
in
section
four
for
attorneys
and
agents
accredited
by
the
united
states,
department
of
veterans
affairs
and
that's
all
the
amendments
we
have.
Thank
you,
sir.
A
A
If
you
read
the
third
bullet
point,
it
presently
reads
as
reduce
the
font
size
of
a
disclosure
on
written
advertisements
to
one
third,
the
size
of
the
largest
use
of
the
term
veteran
assemblyman
o'neill
has
proposed
to
change
that
language.
To
read
ten
point
font
members,
any
questions
for
assemblyman
o'neill.
A
Now
would
be
perfect,
please.
Okay,.
C
Other
than
a
nonprofit
is
subject
is
not
subject
to
the
provisions
of
the
bill,
but
on
the
amendment
that's
attached,
I
see
that
that
is
only
listed
in.
That
would
be
a
subsection
two
section.
E
E
A
Thank
you
so,
with
with
the
legal
clarification
assemblyman
o'neill
assemblywoman
constantine,
do
we
have
any
additional
questions
or
anything
else
that
you'd
like
to
clarify
on
the
record
assembly
woman
constantine?
Please.
A
And
thank
you,
mr
event,
for
that
assemblyman
o'neill.
Is
there
anything
else
you'd
like
to
get
on
the
record.
C
A
There
our
people
never
makes
mistakes
only
us
so
with
that
I'd
like
to
entertain
a
motion
to
amend
and
do
pass
assembly
bill,
316.,
matthew.
A
A
H
A
Thank
you,
mr
mcdonald,
at
this
time
I'd
like
to
entertain
a
motion
to
do
past
assembly
bill
147.
C
C
C
L
D
C
E
A
Yes,
please
let
the
record
reflect,
we
have
eight
yeses
five
no's
motion
carries.
If
I
may
ask
assemblywoman
brown
may
to
do
that
floor
statement.
H
This
was
sponsored
by
assemblywoman,
considine
and
heard
on
march
18th,
and
we
did
receive
an
amendment
from
someone
in
considine
that
would
provide
that
a
public
body
may
not
hold
a
meeting
virtually
by
virtual
means
unless
the
public
body
maintains
an
internet
website
and
posts
notice
and
supporting
material
on
its
website
and
the
official
website
of
the
state
include.
The
ability
to
participate
in
a
meeting
by
telephonic
means
provide
that
a
public
body
may
not
may
allow
public
comment
by
means
of
pre-recorded
messages.
H
Replace
the
term
teleconference
with
video
conference.
Excuse
me
replace
the
term
yeah
teleconference
with
video
conference
with
a
remote
technology
system
and
delete
section
four
of
the
bill.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
Thank
you,
mr
mcdonald.
I
I'd
like
to
just
very
quickly
say
thank
you
to
assemblywoman
continent.
As
I
know,
she
worked
very
diligently
with
me.
Many
many
many
stakeholders
to
make
this
bill
work.
So
thank
you
for
the
amount
of
work
you
put
on
on
this
bill
at
this
time,
I'd
like
to
entertain
a
motion
to
amend
and
do
pass
assembly
bill,
253.
A
E
A
Vice
chair
taurus
has
second.
That
motion
remembers
any
discussion.
F
F
G
D
A
F
H
Assembly,
bill
378
revises
provisions
related
to
public
lands.
This
was
sponsored
by
the
assembly
committee
on
natural
resources
and
heard
here
on
march
30th.
We
did
receive
one
updated
conceptual
amendment
from
assemblyman
watts.
So
if
you
take
a
look
at
the
attached
conceptual
amendment,
it
adds
another
bullet
which
is
the
fifth
bullet
down.
H
This
amendment
proposes
to
amend
the
bill
to
retain
the
language
deleted
in
section
seven
and
change
shout
to
may
regarding
the
submission
of
comments
to
the
federal
government
upon
a
realty
action,
and
that's
the
only
amendment
we
have.
Thank
you,
sir.
A
C
F
D
C
H
A
Thank
you
assemblyman.
I
I
recognize
that
we're
having
some
issues
with
our
microphone.
Please
let
the
record
reflect
that
we
have
eight
yeses
five
no's
motion
carries
and
if
I
may
ask
assemblywoman
martinez,
if
you
can,
please
do
that
floor
statement.
A
That
concludes
our
work
session
document
for
today.
Members
thank
you
for
coming
in
prepared
and
having
reviewed
those
documents
ahead
of
time,
and
thank
you
for
your
flexibility
with
those
verbal
amendments.
I
recognize
that
they
were
relatively
simple
and
we
were
able
to
address
them
on
the
spot.
So
thank
you
for
that
and
everybody's
flexibility.
A
A
I
Thank
you,
mr
chair
and
good
morning,
members
of
the
committee
on
government
affairs,
hard
working
committee
on
government
affairs
for
the
record.
My
name
is
jason
fryerson
assemblyman
for
district
eight,
also
nevada
state
speaker
for
the
united
states
assembly.
I
am
here
to
present
assembly
bill
409,
which
is
an
effort
to
modernize
our
hiring
and
recruitment
practices
for
peace
officers
to
better
identify
implicit
bias.
I
During
the
2019
session
I
sponsored
ab478
and
that
required
the
peace
officer
standards
and
training
commission
post
to
expressly
require
several
minimum
training
standards.
One
of
those
standards
was
implicit
bias.
Many
of
the
training
requirements,
including
implicit
bias,
were
already
in
practice
by
various
law
enforcement
agencies.
I
Ab-478
was
an
effort
to
ensure
that,
regardless
of
who
changes
in
local
leadership,
the
intent
of
the
legislature
and
the
state
was
evident.
Let
us
be
clear.
I
I
think
that
we
all
have
implicit
bias.
Every
single
one
of
us
has
implicit
bias,
however.
Implicit
bias
is
largely
unconscious
and
can
influence
our
behaviors
for
law
enforcement
officers
who
are
given
a
badge,
a
gun
authority
and
discretion,
and
asked
to
operate
in
situations
that
are
uncertain
and
stressful.
I
This
report
notes
that,
while
the
hiring
process
is
and
should
be
a
method
of
recruiting
and
retaining
candidates
that
embody
the
values
of
a
particular
agency,
the
agency
process
should
also
be
used
to
identify
potential.
I
mean
sorry.
The
hiring
process
should
also
be
used
to
identify
potentially
bad
actors
and
those
unfit
to
serve
while
implicit
bias.
Training
has
become
common
in
law
enforcement
agencies
and
should
continue
to
be
an
important
training
requirement.
I
Ab409
is
an
effort
to
ensure
that
we
are
hiring
capable
officers
from
the
onset
I'll
now
walk
through
the
provisions
of
the
bill.
Section
one
requires
close
to
establish
minimum
standards
for
the
selection
of
peace
officers
that
include
requirements
for
evaluations
to
be
conducted
during
the
recruitment
and
selection
of
peace
officers
that
must
identify
implicit
bias
on
the
basis
of
race,
color,
religion,
national
origin,
physical
or
mental
disability,
sexual
orientation
of
gender
identity
or
expression.
I
Co-Chair
robinson
recently
wrote
that
american
policing
in
the
future
will
be
shaped
by
the
men
and
women
now
coming
into
police
academies.
Furthermore,
in
a
recent
article
from
the
police
chief
magazine,
it
was
stated
that
screening
out
potentially
problematic
personnel
is
not
just
good
risk
management,
but
also
a
cost-effective
practice.
I
I
believe
ab409
is
the
appropriate
next
step
to
ensure
that
we
are
hiring
the
law
enforcement
officers.
Our
communities
expect
and
deserve
this.
This
bill
was
actually
a
reflection
of
conversations
that
I
had,
of
course,
with
the
law
enforcement
community
with
post,
but
also
with
officers
on
the
front
line.
I
A
F
I
apologize,
I
was
trying
to
type
it
in
there
and
it
wouldn't
go.
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
bringing
the
bill
forward.
I
just
have
one
question,
mr
speaker,
and
and
in
section
one
number
four,
where
it
says
number
seven,
it
says
physical
or
mental
disability.
F
I
mean
if,
if
they're
going
to
post
they've
got
to
be
physically
fit,
you
know
they've
got
to
run
and
be
able
to
carry
so
much
weight
in
and
be
in
good
sound
mental
shape.
So
can
can
you
answer
that
one
piece
in
there.
I
I'm
sorry
again
for
the
record
jason
freyerson.
I
am
not
far,
I'm
not
seeing
what.
F
It's
on
page
two
line,
seven
and
where
it
says
right
there,
it
says
physical
or
mental
disabilities.
I
F
So
what
I'm
saying
is
asking
is,
you
know,
usually
a
post:
they
have
to
run
so
much.
They
got
to
be
physically
fit
and
mentally
stable.
So
would
this
exclude
that
where
they
don't
have
to
run
no
more
and
be
physically
fit
and
in
misses
mentally
disabled
but
disability,
it
seemed
like
to
me
that
would
be.
I
I
The
language
this
bill
is
is
suggesting
that
officers
who
are
applying-
I
mean
people
who
are
applying
to
become
officers,
be
evaluated
in
ways
that
identify
if
they
have
bias
against
certain
people,
so
it
has
nothing
to
do
with
post
training
and
their
their
physical
fitness.
I
This
is
people
who
are
biased
against
individuals
who
have
physical
or
mental
disabilities,
and
if
there's
a
person
applying
for
a
job
as
a
a
peace
officer
who
has
a
bias
against
people
who
have
physical
or
mental
disabilities,
they
want
to
identify
that
at
the
hiring
process.
F
A
A
D
D
D
M
Good
morning,
chairman
flores
and
the
assembly
committee
on
government
affairs,
this
is
john
piero,
j-o-h-n-p-I-r-o
from
the
clark
county,
public
defender's
office
and
we'd
like
to
thank
the
speaker
for
bringing
this
bill
forward.
I
think
the
best
way
to
cure
some
of
these
issues
is
prevention
first,
and
this
bill
goes
a
long
way
towards
making
sure
that
we
are
working
on
prevention
before
we
have
to
fix
a
problem
before
it's
too
late.
So
I'm
grateful
for
this
bill
coming
forward.
M
A
Thank
you
for
joining
us
this
morning.
Next
caller
wishing
to
testify
in
support
of
assembly
bill
409.
D
D
G
Good
morning,
juror
floors,
this
is
kendra
burch
with
the
washoe
county
public
defender's
office.
I
apologize
I
had
pressed
to
join.
The
support
would
be
possible
to
give
support.
G
Thank
you,
kendra
burchie,
for
the
record
of
the
e-r-t-s-c-h-y
with
the
washoe
county
public
defender's
office.
I
will
just
ditto
the
statements
from
mr
pira
regarding
the
need
to
ensure
that
our
officers
have
what
they
need
on
the
ground,
with
their
first
interaction
with
our
clients,
so
that
we
can
reform
the
criminal
justice
system.
So
thank
you.
A
I
Thank
you,
mr
chair
and
and
members
of
the
committee
as
usual.
I
I
I
endeavor
to
lighten
your
workload
by
keeping
it
straight
forward,
and
I
believe
that
this
bill
represents
simply
a
common
sense
effort
to
help
deal
with
some
of
the
issues
that
I
think
our
our
our
country
and
our
our
state
are
finding
with
respect
to
engagements
with
law
enforcement.
I
I
think
this
goes
a
long
way
with
assisting
with
trust
and
furthering
relationships
between
law
enforcement
and
the
community,
and
I
I
thank
you
all
for
your
questions
and
for
your
time
and
attention,
and
I
look
forward
to
further
discussions
about
about
this.
This
policy.
A
Thank
you,
speaker,
farrison.
Before
I
close
out
the
hearing,
assemblywoman
dickman
has
reminded
me
that
I
I
believe
we
skipped
a
neutral
and
I
know
I'm
looking
at
the
queue
and-
and
I
and
I
don't
see
anybody,
but
not
everybody
can
see
that.
So
just
for
the
sake
of
clarity,
if
we
could
please
go
to
those
wishing
to
testify
in
the
neutral
position
for
assembly
bill,
409.
A
Thank
you,
and
at
this
time
we've
already
heard
the
closing
remarks
from
speaker
fryerson.
Thank
you,
speaker,
fryerson,
in
the
interest
of
time
members.
A
Thank
you
was
that
a
simple
is
that
assemblyman
allison.
Yes,
it
is.
F
A
Thank
you,
thomas
assemblyman
ellison
has
made
the
motion
to
amen.
Excuse
me
to
do
pass
assembly
bill
409,
as
presented
by
speaker,
fryerson
and
assembly,
I'd
like
to
make
another
recommendation
one
second!
Well
let
me
resend
so
at
this
time,
if
you
could
resend
your
motion,
assemblyman,
listen,
because
if
we're
going
to
engage
in
a
conversation
about
new
language.
A
Okay,
all
right,
so
thank
you.
Assemblyman
assemblyman
ellison
has
made
the
motion
to
do
pass.
Assembly
409,
as
presented
by
assemblyman
friar.
Excuse
me,
speaker,
fryerson
and
assemblywoman.
Thomas
has
second.
That
motion
remembers
any
discussion.
A
Seeing
none,
please
unmute
yourselves,
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye.
C
A
Unanimously
and
because
I
recognize
that
we're
going
to
be
doing
a
lot
of
amendments
and
and
we're
going
to
have
a
little
bit
of
a
busy
floor,
if,
if
I
may
ask
assemblywoman,
can
you
please
help
us
with
that
poor
statement?
A
A
A
A
Assembly
committee
on
government
affairs
will
come
back
to
order
at
this
time.
I
will
hand
over
the
virtual
gamble
to
a
vice
territorist
so
that
I
can
present
assembly
bill
133.
E
A
Ready
thank
you,
madam
vice
chair,
esteemed
colleagues
of
the
very
hard-working
committee
on
government
affairs.
A
I
am
assemblymedical
force
for
the
record
proudly
representing
assembly
district
28,
and
I
am
here
today,
along
with
mr
ablazer,
who
will
be
co-presenting
and
will
bring
a
lot
of
the
subject
matter,
expertise
to
speak
on
assembly
bill
133.
A
I
wanted
to
make
it
abundantly
clear
for
the
record
that
we
are
going
off
of
the
mock-up
that
is
now
uploaded
to
nellis.
As
if
you
hit
on
the
exhibits,
tab
you'll
see
it
there
wanted
to
apologize
to
the
committee
for
any
confusion
as
to
this
particular
mock-up.
A
We
will
go
through
it
line
by
line
so
that
we
give
everybody
an
opportunity
to
understand
exactly
what
what
we
are
doing
here.
If
I
could
very
quickly
just
before
I
hand
the
presentation
over
to
mr
app
ableisher,
it's
important
to
understand
the
genesis
of
this
bill
and
I'd
like
to
first
start
off
by
simply
thanking
president
kaplan
and
the
nevada
police
union
and
their
amazing
team
and
all
the
folk
who
work
with
me
on
arriving
at
this
language
and
understanding
some
of
the
best
practices
around
the
country.
A
There
is
no
secret
that
they
have
to
be
able
to
make
decisions
in
split
seconds,
and
I
am
firmly
committed
to
the
idea
that
most
members
of
law
enforcement
join
the
force,
probably
for
the
same
reasons
that
a
lot
of
us
decided
to
make
become
public
servants
and
elected
officials.
A
A
For
that
very
specific
reason
to
change
that
relationship
with
the
community
and
with
that
desire
to
do
good-
and
I
say
that,
because
obviously
we
still
have
a
lot
of
tension
that
sometimes
occurs
between
the
community
and
law
enforcement,
and
I
think
the
best
we
can
do
is
really
focus
on
training,
where
we
have
well-intentioned
hard-working
individuals
who
work
in
a
very
high
stress
environment
and
that
our
responsibility
is
to
say
what
is
the
best
possible
way
to
ensure
that
we
have
equipped
them
with
all
the
necessary
resources
mentally
physically
to
be
prepared
to
handle
such
a
demanding
job.
A
And
so
mr
ablester
will
walk
you
through
the
mock-up.
That
is
on
nellis
now.
But
if
I
could
just
provide
you
some
additional
background
information
to
help
put
all
this
into
context.
A
So
if
I
could
share
in
california
the
highway
patrol
mandates
that
every
officer
go
to
the
range
every
month
and
they
consider
a
liability
if
an
officer
doesn't
have
their
monthly
training
with
firearms,
most
trainings
are
hands-on
engagement
and
learning.
A
A
If
I
could
just
right
here,
take
a
a
brief
pause
and
and
thank
our
very
own
assemblywoman
brownmay,
who
worked
with
us
on
this
particular
notion
and
provided
her
expertise
that
obviously
we
all
know
that
she's
worked
with
our
community
for
a
very
long
time
and
she
provided
input,
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
gave
her
credit
for
helping
us
with
this
particular
language
as
she
was
the
original
individual
that
came
to
me
and
said,
I
see
the
bill.
I
love
to
add
this.
A
I
think
it's
imperative
that
we
do
it
that
we
do
a
better
job
with
that.
So
thank
you.
Assemblywoman
brownmay,
for
suggesting
this
language
and
working
with
the
stakeholders
on
achieving
it
and
just
two
additional
points.
The
international
association
of
chiefs
of
police
have
highlighted
that
police,
training
and
training
and
skill
to
understand
and
interact
with
individuals
who
are
lgbtiqi
plus
is
as
essential
is
an
essential
training
for
all
departments
and
the
national
tactical
officers
association
has
emphasized
in
our
new
day
and
age.
A
Understandably,
law
enforcement
has
an
incredibly
difficult
job
when
they
are
on
the
streets
in
the
middle
of
a
protest
or
a
particular
situation
that
may
be
occurring
and
where
they
are
there
to
monitor
and
protect
the
citizens.
A
Who
may
be
expressing
dismay
and
concern
and
frustration
towards
the
very
humans
that
are
there
to
try
to
control
the
situation,
and
you
can
understand
how
the
dynamics
can
be
so
very
different
in
that
type
of
conversation,
or
in
that
type
of
scenario
we
are
accustomed
to
protests.
A
A
It
is
a
very
difficult
situation
that
they
find
themselves
in
and
that's
why
it's
so
incredibly
important
that
we
use
this
session
as
a
call
to
action
to
say
what
can
we
do
to
ensure
our
women
and
men
in
uniform
are
as
prepared
as
we
can
to
handle
the
challenges
of
the
emerging
conversations
that
we're
having
day
to
day
here
in
this
country
of
ours,
and
with
that,
if
I
make
madam
vice
chair
hand
over
the
presentation
so
that
we
can
have
a
walk-through
of
the
bill,
an
explanation
of
each
section,
what
the
genesis
is
and
how
we
achieve
how
we
believe
we
can
achieve
it
to
mr
abelaster.
A
But
before
I
do
that.
Just
one
last
comment.
I
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
law
enforcement.
I
had
an
opportunity
to
speak
with
mr
spratley
and
callaway
and
they
expressed
while
they
sympathetic
to
the
additional
training,
expressed
concerns
of
what
this
means
in
terms
of
the
financial
obligation
that
it
may
bring
and
the
and
how
they
believe
that
this
may
be
something
that
they
might
not
possibly
be
able
to
do
now,
and
they
express
that
concern.
B
Please,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
assemblyman
flores
and
vice
chair
through
you
torres
assembly,
honorable
members
of
the
assembly
committee
on
government
affairs.
My
name
is
eddie
ablesser,
that's
e-d-d-I-e-a-b-l-e-s-e-r.
B
B
This
bill
places
a
more
impactful
emphasis
on
the
skill
and
craft
development
and
their
field
training
and
the
giving
officers
hands-on
scenarios
versus
the
current
status
quo,
which
amounts
to
simply
online
powerpoint
presentations
that
are
generally
repetitive
from
year
to
year.
And
then,
when
you
take
a
quiz,
they
can
easily
be
answered
with
basic
deducting
skills.
B
The
reason
why
we
need
this
bill
is
because
currently
an
officer
once
a
year
gets
a
powerpoint
presentation.
It's
been
the
same
for
the
past
couple
of
years.
They've
they've
combined
both
racial
profiling
and
implicit
bias
together
and
it's
done
online
self-paced
and
you
know
an
officer
could
easily
skip
ahead
with
this
type
of
continuing
education
and
answer
the
quiz
with
basic
deduction
skills.
B
Next,
in
the
bill,
there
are
mandates
that
there's
no
less
than
six
hours
a
year
of
hands-on
firearm
training
in
where
that
is
provided
to
officers.
This
is
really
important.
We
have
officers
throughout
the
state
in
debt,
various
law
enforcement
agencies
that
do
not
get
training
in
firearms.
Some
some
agencies-
this
is
going
to
be
a
minimum
standard
for
them,
but
many
agencies
like
the
state
and
the
nevada
police
union,
which
represents
four
different
departments.
B
While
we
don't
get
to
the
12
hours
a
year
once
a
month
training.
This
is
six
times
the
amount
that
our
officers
are
currently
getting
right
now,
they're,
getting
zero
training
provided
by
the
state
in
firearms,
training,
hands-on,
firearm
training
they
have
to
either
pay
for
it
themselves,
go
to
the
range
themselves.
They
get
tested
twice
twice
a
year,
but
the
testing
is
not
training,
so
we
believe
it
is
important
to
add
six
hours
a
year
of
hands-on
firearm
training
for
all
officers
throughout
the
state.
B
B
These
new
trainings
must
be
offered
as
professional
development
courses
for
our
officers,
and
they
include
individuals
with
intellectual
developmental
disability
issues
relating
to
lesbian,
gay,
bisexual
transgender
and
questioning
persons,
domestic
terrorism,
emergency
vehicle
operations,
crisis
intervention
and
riot
control.
B
These
six
new,
trainings
and
professional
development
fields
have
been
identified
by
leaders
in
best
practices
on
public
space.
Safety,
such
as
international
association
of
police
chiefs,
cops
in
the
un
as
essential
course
material
that
all
officers
should
be
taking
to
grow
their
skills
into
an
up-to-date
profession,
professional
peace
officer
position.
B
Finally,
in
ab-133,
it
states
that
these
new
standards
must
be
taken
to
account
for
any
promotion
and
performance
evaluation
of
a
peace
officer.
We
believe
that
in
investing
in
these
officers
that
their
work,
their
performance
and
these
hands-on
training
experiences
must
be
taken
into
account
for
future
promotion
and
their
performance
evaluations.
This
is
also
the
carrot
that
gets
officers
excited
about
enhancing
their
skills,
embracing
new
ways
of
learning
for
their
own
development
and
progress
within
their
police
force.
B
The
nevada
police
union
stands
firmly
behind
all
aspects
of
this
bill
and,
frankly,
in
this
day
of
age,
in
attention
to
the
behaviors
of
our
peace
officers,
who
spend
each
day
working
to
protect
the
public.
These
new
standards
for
training
and
professional
development
are
essential
in
establishing
a
fully
skilled
and
equipped
police
force,
ready
for
all
situations
and
skilled
in
working
with
underrepresented
and
disenfranchised
communities
is
nevada
ready
to
move
law
enforcement
into
the
age
of
community
engagement
by
professionalizing
our
peace
officers,
so
that
all
are
trained
with
skills
that
follow
research
and
best
practices.
B
Npu
believes
it
is
time
to
end
the
check.
The
box
type
of
continuing
education
that
currently
exists,
let's
invest
in
all
of
our
officers,
equip
them
with
the
best
training
and
professional
development
so
that
all
communities
know
that
the
state
values
them
and
is
working
towards
the
most
optimal
outcomes.
Thank
you
and
I'm
available
for
any
questions.
E
A
A
I
know
one
of
the
questions
that
I
got
previously
in
some
of
the
conversations
that
I
had
with
some
of
you
was
asked
to
the
original
language
of
the
bill,
and
when
I
and
I
I
wanted
to
speak
briefly
as
to
that
when
I
originally
presented
this
bill,
I
had
had
the
opportunity
to
work
very
closely
with
members
of
the
community
who
expressed
tremendous
frustration
of
how
the
how
law
enforcement
interacted
with
individuals
that
open
carried
and-
and
I
realized
that
there
was
a
responsibility
to
the
members
of
the
community
to
ensure
in
a
state
like
nevada,
where
folk
open
carry
and
it
is
lawful
for
them
to
do
so
that
we
entertained
and
engaged
in
a
conversation
that
was
very
important
to
ensure
that
law
enforcement
was
adequately
trained
and
prepared
to
address
those
type
of
scenarios.
A
As
many
of
you
are
aware
and
you've
heard
before
this
test
before
this
committee
of
a
young
man
who
was
involved
and
killed
and
during
a
black
lives
matter,
protest-
and
I
make
that
point
only
to
make
it
clear
that
that's
where
this
bill
originated
with
me.
A
But
after
having
had
the
opportunity
to
sit
down
and
and
speak
with
stakeholders,
I
recognize
that
there
was
an
opportunity
to
take
that
original
language
beyond
its
original
intention
and
make
it
much
wider
cast
a
much
larger
net
and
not
only
ensure
that
officers
have
the
adequate
training
and
are
prepared
for
scenarios
where
there
may
be
protests
or
riot
where
folk
are
exercising
the
right
to
open
carry
in
the
state,
but
that
we
take
it
beyond
that
and
and
help
ensure
that
law
enforcement
is
better
prepared
to
interact
and
engage
with
a
much
larger
scope
of
community
members.
A
But
I
wanted
to
make
that
clear,
because
I
did
have
an
opportunity
to
speak
with
many
of
you
and
we
engaged
in
a
conversation
regarding
the
young
man
jorge
gomez,
and
and
that's
that's
where
we
started
with
the
language
and
that's
why
we
had
that
original
bill.
But
now
we
have
an
opportunity
to
cast
a
much
wider
net
and
ensure
that
we're
preparing
our
folk
to
interact
with
all
nevadans.
With
that.
Madam
vice
chair,
any
questions
please.
E
Thank
you
for
the
very
thorough
presentation.
Are
there
any
questions
from
this
committee
good
moment?
I'm
gonna
just
go
ahead
and
unmute
yourself,
because
I
don't
see
any
in
the
chat.
F
F
How
are
we
going
to
combine
all
these
and
we're
kind
of
overlapping
it?
It's
going
to
be
a
disaster
for
for
the
agencies
to
try
to
put
all
these
programs
together.
It
seems
like
to
me
if
you
got
any
idea
how
they're
going
to
handle
this
or
how
they're
going
to
do
this,
because
every
bill
is
is
kind
of
got
the
same
thing,
but
yet
there's
some
stuff
in
there
that
it's
a
little
more
and
as
far
as
the
police
training
they
do
a
lot
of
this
already
and
and
and
qualifying
they.
F
They
do
the
qualifying
what
once
a
month
or
every
other
month
that
they
go
out
and
qualify
at
the
range
and
they
spend
quite
a
bit
of
time
out
there.
So
could
you
answer
that?
Please?
Thank
you.
A
Sure,
and
and
I'll
allow
mr
abblister
to
add
anything
in
in
addition
to
the
remarks
I'm
about
to
make
assemblymedical
floors
for
the
record.
Thank
you,
somebody
melissa
for
that
question.
A
It
is
not
uncommon
in
the
legislative
process
for
us
to
have
multiple
bills
that
address
a
particular
issue
and
or
fall
within
a
particular
section
of
the
nrs.
There
are
numerous
bills
that
do
that.
This
session,
numerous
bills
that
did
that
in
the
previous
sessions
legal
will
often
compact
them
and
will
figure
it
out
and
ensure
that
where
there
is
identical
language,
then
that
language
obviously
doesn't
cross
each
other
out
that
language
just
gets
added
to
the
nrs
and
where
there
is
additional
requirements
that
those
requirements
get
included.
A
But
it's
my
my
position
that
this
is
normal.
This
is
the
legislative
process.
We
often
have
numerous
bills
that
pass
that
address
a
particular
issue
and
legal
always
finds
a
way
to
ensure
that
that
becomes
clear
for
the
record
and
that
it
works
established
for
anything
else
that
you
wanted
to
add.
Yes,.
B
A
B
Assemblyman
flores
and
through
you
vice
chair
torres
assemblyman,
alison
to
a
couple
of
your
points.
I
think
one
it's
important
to
recognize
that
post
is
responsible
to
carry
out
these
trainings
so
agencies
they
work
with
post.
They
help
develop
a
lot
of
these
trainings.
That's
sort
of
how
the
current
continuing
education
program
has
been
put
in
place,
obviously
for
new
recruits
and
cadets
that
go
through
the
academy.
There's
robust
training
and
hands-on
engagement
after
those
recruits
become
officers
are
in
the
field.
B
Then
it's
the
continuing
education
piece
that
the
agencies
work
to
develop
across
the
state.
You
know,
nevada
is
one
of
the
two
states
that
has
through
their
post
office
the
national
certified
training
program,
and
they
should
get
a
lot
of
credit
for
that
post
does
a
phenomenal
job.
You
know,
I
know
that
some
of
the
other
departments
have
mentioned.
How
do
they
pay
for
it?
You
know
currently
post
is
being
cost
allocated
by
departments.
B
I
think
that
is
something
that
our
departments
should
definitely
assume
in
their
costs
and
and
ensure
that
they
can
budget
accordingly
to
fully
train
their
officers.
So
the
cost
allocation
piece
is
a
is
something
that
already
is
happening
and
shouldn't
be
a
burden
to
our
departments
and
should
help
post
with
building
up
these
trainings.
I
do
want
to
also
mention
to
you
that
you
talked
about
monthly
qualifying
and
actually
at
the
state
level,
just
for
your
edification.
Our
officers
have
to
qualify
once
every
six
months.
B
Essentially,
the
state
pays
for
one
bullet.
I
always
say
that
you
know
our
officers
get
one
bullet
paid
for
by
the
state
to
go
and
hit
the
target
to
qualify
and
then
they're
good.
Any
additional
training
is
on
their
own
dime
and
and
so
effectively.
We
we
believe,
like
other
states,
do
it
to
invest
in
those
firearm
trainings
at
least
giving
them
six
six
a
month.
F
Pull
up,
I've
been
to
a
lot
of
training
programs
with
the
police
department
in
and
we
never
had
one
bullet.
We
had
stacks
and
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
out
there
every
time
that
we
went
out,
and
maybe
we
went
a
little
bit
overboard,
but
I've
never
seen
him
just
hand.
One
bullet
to
say,
take
it
out
of
your
shirt
pocket
mr
fife,
and
make
the
shot.
I've
never
heard
of
that.
B
Before
through
you,
vice
chair
torres
to
assemblyman
ellison,
I
appreciate
that,
and
you
know
this
is
a
this-
is
not
the
norm.
I
would
say,
I
think,
there's
law
enforcement
agencies
across
the
state
that
do
robust
training
in
firearms-
and
you
know,
I'm
speaking
from
the
position
of
nevada
police
union,
our
officers
within
the
department
of
public
safety
within
university
police
services
within
state
parks
and
within
our
game
wardens.
B
All
of
them
are
that
is
their
bare
minimum
requirement.
There
is
not
an
ongoing
firearm
trainings
that
they
get
to
participate
in
that
is
offered
by
the
state.
We
believe
that
many
other
states
do
that
and
other
local
law
enforcement
agencies
do
that
as
well
and
so
that
what
this
bill
is
attempting
to
do
is
to
sort
of
bring
parity
with
all
law
enforcement
agencies
throughout
the
state
to
get
to
the
level
that
you're
talking
about
assemblyman.
E
Okay,
members,
any
other
questions.
If
you
do
have
a
question,
please
just
submit
yourself.
I
don't
think
I
see
anyone
all
right,
seeing
none
we'll
go
ahead
and
start
to
hear
testimony.
I
just
want
to
let
the
members
know
we
will
give
equal
time
so
20
minutes
in
support
20
minutes
in
opposition
in
20
minutes
in
neutral.
I
won't
cut
off
testimony
we'll
just
let
the
testimony
go,
and
so
we
will
go
ahead
and
start
with
our
testimony
in
support
of
ab245.
D
D
G
G
We
want
to
thank
assemblyman
for
us
for
bringing
forth
this
important
bill
and
for
the
very
robust
amendment
that
we
were
pleased
to
see
today.
G
As
you
heard
in
the
presentation,
their
training
can
improve
for
law
offices
in
nevada.
The
idea
that
there
are
power
points
floating
around
that
are
recycling
year
after
year
is
very
troubled.
This
body
works
hard
to
ensure
that
our
law
enforcement
officers
get
the
best
training
in
the
country.
We
pass
laws
requiring
racial
bias,
training
dealing
with
different
populations
and
to
find
out
that,
for
some
officers
it
is
simply
a
powerpoint
they
can
skip
through
on
their
own
time
is
concerning
hands-on
training
should
be
the
goal
of
the
state.
G
It
should
be
the
policy
of
the
state.
It
is
clearly
what
the
law
enforcement
officers
themselves
want,
and
it
is
something
that
we
should
strive
to
provide
when
law
officers
are
not
properly
trained.
People
get
hurt.
Both
the
law
officers
themselves
find
that
can
be
in
danger
and
community
members
who
they
are
untrained
to
work
with,
can
face
the
brunt
of
the
lack
of
training.
This
bill
is
a
good
step
and
it
will
bust
step
in
that
direction.
G
We
may
hear
from
other
law
organizations
that
this
is
going
to
cost
too
much
that
they
not
may
not
be
able
to
do
it.
I
will
remind
you
that
las
vegas
metro's
budget
is
650
million
dollars,
that
is
over
half
a
billion
dollars
a
year.
We
strongly
believe
they
can
find
the
money
in
that
budget
to
ensure
hands-on
training
for
all
of
their
officers
in
all
of
these
areas
and
ensure
that
we
have
the
most
well-trained
law
officers
in
the
country
and
our
public
is
safe
and
protected
by
those
officers.
E
Thank
you,
and
I
just
want
to
clarify
too
for
the
committee
and
the
colors
on
the
line
that
we
are
working
on
ab133.
I
believe
I
said
a
different
build
number
and
I
appreciate
supplement
matthews
for
reminding
me
what
bill
number
we're
working
off
of
broadcast.
If
we
could
please
go
to
the
next
caller
in
support
of
ab133.
D
C
I
would
like
this
on
the
record,
please
as
I'm
on
the
proud
mother
of
jorgantonia
gomez,
that
was
killed
by
the
las
vegas
metropolitan
police
department.
On
june
1st
2020
during
a
black
lives
matter
rally,
he
was
walking
on
a
public
side,
walk
back
to
his
vehicle
in
front
of
the
lloyd
george
federal
building
as
his
vehicle
was
parked
adjacent
to
that
area.
C
My
son
was
legally
exercising
our
first
and
second
amendment
rights
as
he
was
protesting
for
george
floyd
and
our
brothers
and
sisters
against
police
brutality
and
violence
officer.
John
squio
said
he
believed
my
son
had
a
bat
and
chose
to
shoot
five
less
than
lethal
rounds
at
him.
As
my
son
was
standing
in
the
crosswalk
waiting
for
the
light
to
change
so
that
he
could
get
back
to
his
vehicle,
he
then
stated
that
he
saw
my
son
have
have
a
rifle
swung
behind
his
back
and
he
yelled
gun.
C
There
were
four
officers
across
the
street
standing
for
over
a
minute
that
shot
him
19
times
with
no
warning.
My
son
was
legally
open
caring
as
he
had
been
doing
so
in
previous
protests.
We
are
a
two-way
family,
his
dad's,
a
k-9
officer
with
a
major
casino.
His
sister
went
to
west
point
and
my
partner
manages
homeland
security.
So
please
bear
in
mind.
We
are
not
anti-cops,
we
are
anti-corruption
and
we
believe
in
training.
C
C
He
was
the
catalyst
that
shot
my
son
with
the
5-0
lethal
rounds,
danielle's
gun
and
then
four
officers,
dan
emerton,
andrew
locker,
vernon,
ferguson
and
ryan
fryman
were
standing
across
the
street
fired
19
times
killing
my
son
no
warnings,
my
son
never
even
looked
in
their
direction
or
went
in
their
direction.
He
never
knew
why
he
was
killed
shot
in
the
back.
C
You
can
see
this
on
newly
released
videos.
We
need
ab-133
to
train
officers
or
interacting
with
citizens
that
are
legally
open
caring.
So
this
does
not
happen
again.
Police
officers
should
be
held
to
a
higher
standard
and
should
be
fired,
arrested,
charged
and
convicted
of
the
murder
of
my
son
justice
for
jorge
thank.
E
You
thank
you
ma'am
for
coming
to
share
your
story
with
the
committee
and
we
do
express
our
condolences
to
your
loss
as
well
broadcast
if
we
could
go
to
the
next
caller
in
support
of
ab133.
Thank
you.
D
C
C
I
am
a
constituent
and
resident
of
clark
county,
I'm
calling
in
support
of
ab-133,
I'm
also
here
to
represent
mass
liberation
project
and
also
force
trajectory
projects.
C
We
have
a
clear
policing
problem
here
in
nevada
and
most
definitely
an
issue
with
police
officers
when
they
see
someone
practicing
their
first
and
their
second
amendment
right,
just
like
in
the
case
of
jorge
gomez,
we
also
have
an
issue
with
officers,
not
wearing
body
cameras
when
they
are
in
uniform,
and
so
this
is
a
very
important
bill
and
it
definitely
needs
to
get
passed
along
with
more
additional
policing
reform
bills.
Thank
you.
E
Okay,
thank
you
and
just
a
reminder
for
the
callers,
as
as
we
call
in,
if
you
could,
please
make
sure
that
you
say
your
name
and
spell
your
name:
we'll
try
to
go
ahead
and
get
that
name
for
the
team.
We'll
go
ahead
broadcast
if
we
could
go
to
the
next
caller
in
support.
D
G
Good
morning
vice
chair
torrez
and
members
of
the
committee,
this
is
kendra
burchie
v-e-r-t-s-c-h-y
with
the
washoe
county
public
defender's
office.
In
the
interest
of
time,
I
want
to
echo
the
statements
made
before
me
regarding
the
importance
of
this
public
safety
issue
to
ensure
that
our
officers
have
the
training
necessary
to
interact
safely
with
our
community
members.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and.
E
Attention,
thank
you,
mr
t.
We
can
go
ahead
broadcast
if
we
could
go
to
the
next
caller
in
support
of
ab133.
D
M
D
C
That
is
m
a
r.
I
a
hyphen
t
e
r
e
s,
a
l,
I
e
d
e
r
m,
a
n
n
hyphen,
p,
a
r
r,
a
g
a,
and
we
are
in
strong
support
of
this
bill
and
really
thank
assemblyman
flores
for
bringing
this
forward,
especially
in
the
case
of
jorge
gomez,
who,
as
his
mother
said,
was
peacefully
exercising
his
first
and
second
amendment
rights,
and
we
honestly
hope,
especially
folks,
that
are
fellow
gun
owners
like
me
that
want
to
practice
their
second
amendment.
C
Rights
in
a
peaceful
way,
really
understand
the
importance
of
this
bill
so
that
our
police
officers
can
interact
with
those
people
that
are
peacefully
doing
so,
and
we
thank
assembling
them
for
us
again
for
bringing
this
forward
and
please
support
this
bill.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you,
miss
lieberman,
and
just
so
the
the
support
knows
we
are
at
about
10
minutes
right
now,
so
we
have
time
for
about
10
minutes
more
of
support
on
broadcast.
If
we
could,
please
go
to
the
next
caller
in
support
of
ab133.
D
D
C
Ann
marie
grant
a
n
n
e
m
a
r
I
e
g,
a
sister
of
thomas
purdy,
38
years
old,
who
was
killed
by
reno
police
in
washoe
county
sheriff's
office
during
a
mental
health
crisis,
I'm
calling
in
to
support
assembly
bill
133
officers.
Any
additional
training
can
never
be
bad.
Please
support
this
bill.
Thank
you.
D
C
Hello,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity.
My
name
is
elena
t
hackley,
it's
spelled
l-e-I-n-a-t-I
last
name
h-a-c-k-l-e-y
and
I'm
calling
to
represent
more
than
a
hashtag
we're
in
support
of
this
bill
and
also
the
family
of
jorge
gomez.
The
lack
of
training
and
negligence
on
behalf
of
lvmpd
is
disgusting
to
know
that,
prior
to
this
bill,
officers
weren't
trained
properly
on
how
to
deal
with
individuals
who
open
carry
is
alarming.
It
took
the
murder
of
an
innocent
man
to
pay
attention
to
this.
The
most
alarming
fact
is:
ldmpd
kills
unarmed
and
armed
innocent
people.
C
They
need
training
for
everything.
This
is
an
open,
carry
state
and
this
training
should
have
been
implemented.
Nobody
should
have.
Nobody
should
have
to
be
killed
for
bills
to
be
finally
passed.
A
mother
shouldn't
have
to
mourn
her
dead
son
for
action
to
be
taken.
Action
should
have
been
taken
before
the
life
of
jorge
gomez
was
stolen,
but
we
support
any
bill
that
can
prevent
the
murder
of
more
black
and
brown
people,
because,
unfortunately,
this
is
something
that
we're
facing
on
a
regular
basis.
Thank
you.
D
D
C
C
D
E
Okay,
thank
you
broadcast.
If
we
could
now
hear
testimony
and
opposition
of
ab133,
like
I
had
previously
iterated,
will
allow
for
another
20
minutes
and
testimony
in
opposition.
If
the
calls
are
there
and
we
did
hear
all
of
the
calls
and
support,
so
we
had
13
minutes
of
testimony
in
support
of
this
piece
of
legislation
broadcast
if
we
could
go
to
the
first
caller
in
opposition
of
ab-133.
D
D
M
M
Why
does
a
rural
law
enforcement
agency
need
to
spend
time
and
money
on
riot
control?
Our
larger
law
enforcement
partner
agencies
will
come
out
to
mcgill
nevada.
If
the
white
pine
county
sheriff's
office
needs
assistance
with
a
riot
out
there.
However,
white
pine
can
use
additional
training
for
domestic
violence,
human
trafficking,
opioid
addiction
and
a
host
of
other
real
life
and
victim-centered
training
mandating
riot
control
for
all
nevada
agencies
is
just
not
sensible.
M
E
Thank
you,
mr
spratley,
and
I'll
just
remind
the
opposition
to
not
make
personal
remarks
towards
any
of
the
presenters
on
the
legislation.
We'll
now
hear
the
next
caller
in
opposition
of
av-133.
J
Hello,
madam
vice
chair
and
members
of
the
committee,
I'm
chuck
callaway
c-a-l-l-a-w-a-y,
representing
the
las
vegas
metropolitan
police
department.
Like
the
previous
caller,
we
are
not
opposed
to
training.
In
fact,
we
supported
speaker
fryerson's
bill
last
legislative
session,
which
put
much
of
the
existing
language
that
you
see.
That's
already
in
the
statute
that
you
can
see
in
this
amendment.
J
J
To
put
this
in
perspective,
you
could
have
an
officer
that
takes
a
vacation
or
is
on
leave
and
misses
his
four
hours
of
monthly
training,
which
then
causes
him
to
lose
post
certification
and
then
could
not
be
put
out
on
the
street
to
handle
calls
for
service
until
he's
recertified.
So
we
believe
that
training
should
be
annual
and
not
monthly.
J
We
also
share
the
same
concerns
about
a
ton
of
additional
training
being
put
on
officers.
When
will
we
be
able
to
actually
use
them
to
get
out
and
reduce
crime
and
engage
in
community
policing
and
other
things
that
are
very
important?
Our
officers
receive
a
tremendous
amount
of
training
in
the
academy
in
field
training.
They
also
receive
annual
post
training,
specialized
training
and
training
that
they
can
take
on
their
own.
That's
not
mandatory.
J
So
for
the
the
reasons
I
stated
we
are
in
opposition.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you,
mr
callaway
broadcast
will
go
to
the
next
caller
in
opposition
of
ab133.
E
D
A
And
thank
you,
madam
vice
chair
assembly,
medical
force
for
the
record,
and
I
know
mr
ablester
may
have
some
remarks
specifically
addressed
towards
the
opposition's
points
that
were
raised.
A
I
wanted
to
speak
more
broadly
and
just
say
thank
you
to
all
those
of
you
who
called
and
supported
an
opposition
for
engaging
in
in
a
thoughtful
dialogue
this
morning.
I
understand
that
training
is
difficult.
A
I
know
it
is
time
consuming
and
I
recognize
that
at
times
it
may
seem
that
it
could
be
expensive,
but
I
just
want
to
remind
folk
of
the
responsibility
and
obligation
that
we
have
during
this
very
critical
moment
in
time
in
our
history,
where
we
have
our
constituents
from
every
corner
of
this
state
and
just
americans
in
general,
demanding
that
we
hear
their
voices
like
I
said,
and
I
and
I'll
say
this
publicly,
you
know
say
it
every
day
all
day.
A
I
genuinely
believe
that
our
men
and
women
in
uniform
got
into
the
force
for
all
the
reasons
that
folk
get
into
public
service.
They
wanted
to
serve
and
protect
their
communities,
and
unfortunately
it
is
my
position
that
at
times
we
don't
prepare
them
adequately
with
the
training
and
we
create
certain
systemic
approaches
to
to
different
conversations
to
different
communities
to
how
we
handle
things,
and
we
create
this
de
facto
approach
that
has
been
systemically
flawed
and
problematic.
A
So
that
in
the
future
we
have
officers
who
may
be
well
intentioned
with
the
adequate
resources
and
training
to
better
handle
different
situations.
Mr
ablester,
I
don't
know
if
you
may
have
any
additional
remarks.
B
I
would
just
like
to
add
to
the
committee
members-
and
I
want
to
thank
you
all
and
the
the
tremendous
testimony
that
was
provided
and
and
members
on
both
sides
that
called
in
you
know
as
nevada
police
union.
We
are
representatives
of
on
the
ground
line
level,
law
enforcement
when
we
sat
down
to
design
and
ask
what
kind
of
trainings
would
really
help.
What
kind
of
professional
developments
would
enhance
the
field
to
professionalize
peace
officer
service
in
the
state
of
nevada.
B
B
We
believe
these
standards
must
be
fully
enacted
and
fully
trained
to
the
nth
degree,
so
that
officers
have
those
skills
to
grow
in
not
only
their
skill,
their
work
in
the
community,
but
also
in
their
promotion
through
in
their
agency.
We
looked
at
gaps
and
that's
what's
offered
in
this
bill.
Those
are
gaps
that
we've
seen
nationally,
that
we've
seen
locally
that
are
not
being
delivered
and
and
again
it's
a
it's
a
minimum
standard
to
some
of
the
comments
that
were
made.
B
I
would
encourage
other
law
enforcement
offices
to
look
at
this
as
the
minimum
standard.
Absolutely
we
want
training
domestic
violence,
so
our
officers
know
how
to
handle
the
situations,
but
this
is
as
a
base
minimum
giving
officers
the
tools
and
skills
at
the
line
level
that
they're
out
in
the
community
they're
fully
equipped
and
fully
trained,
and
they
feel
well
versed
and
ready
to
help
protect
this
community.
B
E
C
C
To
my
video
so
I'll
ask
somebody
to
come
up
and
take
a
look
at
that
moment,
but
based
upon
our
timeline,
chair
and
vice
chair.
E
E
Yeah,
I
I
think
we
can
go
ahead
and
do
that.
I
I
think
we
did
spend
the
rules
for
a
lot
for
us
to
abandon,
to
pass
on
the
same
day
as
we've
previously
done
with
some
other
legislation.
So
I
I
do
hear
it
as
someone
interested
in.
Can
you
make
a
motion
to
amend
your
past.
H
Excuse
me,
this
is
jared
mcdonald
and
typically
the
chair
would
you
know,
take
a
motion.
I
think
it
would
be.
I
think
it's
okay,
if
the
chair
consents
to
allow
the
vice
chair
to
take
the
most,
but
typically
the
chair
would
take
the
motion.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
mr
mcdonald,
and
and
thank
you,
assemblywoman
anderson,
for
your
willingness
to
want
to
move
this.
I
think
at
this
time,
madam
vice
chair,
if
you
are
comfortable
handling
the
motion-
and
I
just
ask
that
you
do
a
roll
call
vote.
E
Thank
you
chair.
I
will
go
ahead,
given
the
remarks
made
by
the
chair,
we'll
go
ahead
and
hear
I
hear
the
motion
made
by
someone
anderson
do
I
have
a
second
second
counseling
and
we
have
a
second
by
assembling
one
consonant
and
at
this
time
the
secretary
could
please
do
a
roll
call
vote.
C
So
much
I
just
want
to
say:
I
think
we
need
to
be
allowing
police
officers
to
decide
what
training
they
need.
They're,
the
people
who
are
already
highly
trained
legislators
don't
know
what
they
need
to
be
doing.
C
H
E
L
Yes,
thank
you
vice
chair.
I
certainly
appreciate
the
the
intentions
behind
this
bill.
I
do
share
some
of
the
concerns
expressed
by
our
local
law
enforcement
leaders,
particularly
those
just
voiced
by
assemblywoman
dickman,
regarding
trying
to
put
this
in
place
across
a
wide
array
of
diverse
communities.
In
many
cases
it
may
not
apply.
I
want
to
continue
to
have
these
conversations.
L
I
am
going
to
be
a
node
today,
but
I
will
reserve
my
right
for
the
floor
as
I
continue
to
examine
this.
Thank
you.
F
F
The
other
thing
is,
I,
I
think
the
two
police
forces,
mr
calloway
and
mr
bradley
did
a
very
good
job
about
the
training
and
what
they
do
so
I'll
be
a
no
and
I'll
reserve.
My
rights,
thank
you.
E
E
And
see
how
this
will
affect
our
department,
I'm
really
troubled
that
the
way
that
these
bills
are
getting
rushed
through.
I
think,
there's
a
process
for
a
reason,
and
I
would
like
to
see
it
followed.
Thank
you
thank
you,
and
I
do
want
to
remind
the
committee
that
this
is
completely
within
the
realms
of
what
the
committee
is
able
to
do.
E
We
did
suspend
the
24-hour
role,
so
there
is
nothing
in
this
committee
that
is
violating
the
current
process
or
roles
in
place,
and
I
just
want
to
make
that
abundantly
clear
for
the
record
on
the
the
committee
is
completely
able
and
empowered
to
move
legislation
on
the
same
day,
seeing
as
how
we
have
a
deadline
in
a
day.
At
this
time
I
did
hear
a
motion
from
assemblywoman
anderson
and
a
second
from
a
from
assemblywoman
considine.
D
K
F
B
D
G
C
E
D
E
A
Chair
floors
and
madame
vice
chair.
If,
if
you
can
continue
with
the
virtual
gavel
and
if
we
could
move
into
the
presentation,
assemble
131.
E
That
sounds
good
all
right
committee.
I
will
now
open
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill.
131.
Sure
floor
is
please
begin
when
you're
ready.
A
Thank
you,
madam
vice
chair.
This
is
assembly
medical
force
for
the
record
here
to
proudly
present
assembly
bill
131.
A
I
wanted
to
again
take
a
quick
personal
point
of
privilege
to
to
thank
pres.
Excuse
me,
president
kaplan,
the
nevada
police
union
and
on
the
line
here
joining
us
today
is
jason
jackson
he's
a
board
member
of
the
nevada
police
union.
I
just
wanted
to
express
my
gratitude
to
them
for
working
with
me
and
and
preemptively
bringing
forth
the
importance
of
body
cameras.
A
It
doesn't
delete
any
real
language
from
my
original
intent.
We
are
adding,
however,
additional
language
and
we'll
walk
in
detail
through
that,
but
if
I
could
just
provide
some
just
overarching
remarks
as
to
the
importance
of
this
particular
bill
during
the
interim,
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
work
very
closely
specifically
with
the
gomez
family,
but
through
them.
A
I
had
an
opportunity
to
interact
with
various
other
community
stakeholders
who
are
very
passionate
and
committed
to
transparency,
safety
and
and,
more
importantly,
engaging
in
a
very
open
and
transparent
conversation
about
what
what
we
are
doing
presently
when
it
comes
to
community
policing
and
and
what
is
the
relationship
between
the
community
and
law
enforcement
when
it
comes
to
engaging
with
sharing
information
and
providing
the
the
very
powerful
safeguard
that
comes
with
the
body
camera
and
where
there
were
issues
and
identifying
the
present
nrs
and
how
it
is
presently
written,
namely
the
way
the
nevada
revised
statue
is
now
written.
A
One
of
the
concerns
is
that
a
peace
officer
needs
to
to
carry
a
body
camera
pursuant
to
an
nrs289.830
as
presently
written
when
they
routinely
interact
with
with
the
with
the
public,
and
that
definition
is
really
in
essence.
What
created
some
of
the
concerns,
because,
understandably,
we
have
a
lot
of
members
of
law
enforcement
who
don't
routinely
interact
with
members
of
the
public,
who
perhaps
have
numerous
other
duties
and
at
times,
are
required
to
come
into
the
public
space
and
interact
with
with
the
community.
A
A
A
There
may
be
a
requirement
where
maybe
a
lot
of
members
of
law
enforcement
are
asked
and
designated
to
a
specific
area
of
town
and
then
there's
another
incident
happening
in
a
different
another
area
of
town
and
some
of
these
members
of
law
enforcement
who
don't
routinely
interact
with
the
public,
are,
are
asked
and
requested
in
short
notice
to
to
help
alleviate
some
of
those
immediate
concerns
that
are
happening
in
our
community
and
so
in
those
particular
scenarios
where
those
individuals
who
are
not
interacting
consistent
with
the
public
will
go
out
to
these
different
calls
and
unfortunately,
don't
have
a
body
camera
and
a
body.
A
A
Somebody
filed
a
complaint
against
a
particular
officer
and
said
that
you
aggressively
you
know
that
that
member
of
law
enforcement
aggressively
tackled
and
hurt,
or
unnecessarily
used
force
x,
y
and
z,
and
then,
after
reviewing
the
camera,
it
becomes
abundantly
clear
that
the
opposite
is
true,
that
everything
was
necessary
and
that
maybe
the
member
of
law
enforcement
went
above
and
beyond
to
show
restraint
or
to
try
to
de-escalate
the
situation
and
often
and
and
you'll,
hear
this.
A
I
think
for
my
co-presenter,
but
I
think
you'll
hear
from
other
folk
who'll
probably
call
in
you'll
learn
that
in
a
lot
of
these
scenarios,
when
complaints
are
filed
against
officers
and
you
and
that
particular
member
of
the
community
is
told,
look,
we
have
body
cam
footage
that
we're
going
to
utilize
to
demonstrate
the
opposite
that
sometimes
those
complaints
just
magically
disappear
or
never
mind
that
I
withdraw
that
or
simply
they
don't
follow
through,
because
that
body
camera
serves
as
such,
essential
evidence
to
to
show
exactly
how
an
interaction
went
down.
A
But
our
concern
is,
and
and
and
the
the
objective
is
to
ensure
that
all
folk
who
interact
with
members
of
the
public
have
to
have
access
to
a
body
camera.
Now
I
I
want
to
provide
additional
information
right
now:
law
enforcement
for
those
officers
who
are
typically
interacting
with
the
public.
They
have
their
body
cameras
on
their
person
and
there's,
obviously
a
small
surplus
right.
A
Sometimes
the
equipment
fails,
so
they
got
to
have
some
additional
cameras
that
they
can
substitute
while
one
is
being
repaired
or
any
small
scenarios
like
that
they
have
a
small
surplus.
A
So
I
think
we
can
have
a
real
conversation
and
say
look.
We
should
have
a
larger
surplus
so
that,
in
a
scenario
where
something
like
a
big
event
like
a
riot
like
a
protest
or
where
we
have
too
many
officers
in
one
location-
and
we
need
other
officers
to
immediately
respond-
that
we
have
a
surplus
ready
there
for
those
type
of
scenarios.
A
That's
the
ultimate
policy
question
that
I
am
posing
to
you
today
and
I
did
have
an
opportunity
to
speak
with
law
enforcement.
They
expressed
concerns
very
much
rooted
in
how
expensive
this
could
potentially
be.
I
am
grateful
for
that
conversation
with
them.
I
am
sure
that
they
will
present
their
opposition
and
concerns.
I
also
had
an
opportunity
to
speak
with
some
of
the
local
jurisdictions
who
expressed
similar
concerns
of
the
fiscal
nature
again,
but
I
implore
the
committee
today
to
engage
in
the
policy
conversation
not
in
the
money
conversation.
A
Understandably,
we
have
a
lot
of
different
interactions
that
are
not
just
happening
on
our
streets,
but
are
happening
in
all
corners
of
our
of
our
state,
including
our
schools,
including
in
our
our
for
those
that
are
out
there
exercising
and
taking
care
of
our
beautiful
natural
resources
that
we
have
all
these
interactions
having
a
body
camera
present
is
better
for
for
the
safety
of
the
officer
and
the
safety
of
the
community,
and
that's
what
the
amendment
does.
A
If
I
could
please
ask
mr
jason
jackson,
who
is
today
testifying
or
better
said
co-presenting
as
a
board
as
a
member
of
the
board
of
the
nevada
police
union?
Please.
A
E
I
think
you're
still
muted.
Sometimes
it
helps
if
you
toggle
back
and
forth
between
the
microphone.
So
there's
like
a
little
arrow
next
to
the
microphone
and
then
just
try,
selecting
a
different
microphone
and
then
back
to
the
name.
One.
A
Alright,
this
is
a
suburban
editor
for
us
for
the
record,
mr
jackson,
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
that
you
still
you
appear
as
as
not
being
muted,
but
when
you
speak,
unfortunately,
we're
not
hearing
you
cindy
if
you
could
walk
him
through
how
to
how
to
potentially
get
the
microphone
on
his
computer
or
cell
phone
to
match
up.
Please.
C
Yes,
sir,
this
is
cindy
with
broadcast.
Mr
jackson,.
C
E
F
Sir
well
good
morning,
assemblyman
flores
and
vice
chair
torres
members
of
the
assembly
government
affairs
committee.
My
name
is
jason
jackson,
that's
j-a-s-o-n-j-a-c-k-s-o-n
for
the
record,
I'm
a
board
member
and
also
a
member
of
the
nevada
police
union
representing
all
category
1
state
law
enforcement
officers
throughout
nevada.
This
would
include
nevada,
highway
patrol
parole,
probation
nevada,
division
of
state
parks,
nevada
wildlife,
university
police
systems
in
the
north,
northern
portion
and
southern
portion
nevada,
as
well
as
capitol
police.
F
I
it's
our
belief
that
body
cameras
are
an
important
element
of
public
safety
and
a
key
element
of
modern
day
policing
that
have
been
shown
to
reduce
complaints
against
officers,
as
well
as
provide
some
transparency
to
not
only
agency
but
the
officer
by
providing
a
recorded
action
and
and
based
on
their
tactics
and
techniques
utilized
by
officers,
while
they're
on
duty.
F
F
They
can
provide
also
transparency
to
all
agencies
that
our
current
law
enforcement
officers
work
in.
I
can
recall
one
since
when
I
would
have
appreciated
a
recording
device.
I
happened
to
be
in
a
location
where
I
had
no
cell
phone
coverage,
no
radio
coverage,
and
I
observed
three
individuals
shooting
from
a
vehicle
and
also
littering
at
the
time
upon
contacting
the
individuals.
F
They
were
intoxicated,
as
I,
as
I
said,
and
one
of
the
subjects
was
refusing
to
sign
a
citation
and
the
situation
got
pretty
tense
in
the
middle
of
nowhere
with
no
radio
and
no
cell
coverage
no
way
to
portray
to
anyone
else.
The
the
situation
as
it
went
down
so
the
subject,
one
in
particular
refused
to
sign
a
citation,
and
ultimately
he
was
convinced
by
his
friends
and
myself
to
sign
the
citation
and
save
himself
a
trip
to
jail.
So
I
could
just
say
it
in
that
certain
circumstance.
F
In
that
instance,
I
would
have
appreciated
personally
a
recording
device
to
not
only
show
it
to
officers
that
I
might
train
in
the
future,
but
my
supervisors
and
let
them
know
what
exactly
went
down
when
I
had
to
write
up
a
statement
as
to
what
what
occurred
anyways
moving
forward.
I
would
say
that
here's
just
a
few
of
the
simple
reasons
why
nevada
police
union
would
be
in
support
of
this
bill
in
this
legislation.
F
Self-Protection
for
officers
against
complaints,
unbiased
review
of
conduct
during
potentially
violent,
violent
or
aggressive
contacts,
potential
review
of
standard
policy
and
protocol
as
needed,
or,
if
needed,
by
agency,
command
a
breakdown
and
review
of
10
situations
that
may
provide
the
officer
with
multiple
ways
to
better
prepare
himself
for
future
situations.
That
could
happen
again
to
not
only
him
but
other
other
officers.
F
F
F
These
cameras,
body-worn
cameras
and
with
success,
documenting
success
in
in
some
of
these
agencies,
and
I
appreciate
that
past
legislation
and
in
some
of
those
past
bills,
a
few
agencies
were
omitted
from
that
and
this
bill
would
encompass
all
or
have
provide
the
availability
to
all
other
current
state
law
enforcement
agencies
or
other
agencies
that
are
not
providing
them
at
this
at
this
moment.
F
So
I
would
just
like
to
say
in
closing,
I
appreciate
your
time
and
I
think
the
benefits
to
having
body
worn
cameras
far
outweigh
the
disadvantages
of
having
them.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
allowing
me
to
testify
in
support
of
this
and
I'm
willing
to
answer
any
questions.
Any
of
you
may
have.
E
E
E
C
Thank
you
so
much
and
my
question
just
is
like
I've
suggested
in
many
of
my
questions
before.
Wouldn't
it
be
better
to
let
individual
departments
decide
who
needs
to
wear
the
body
cams
rather
than
forcing
them
on
officers
who
will
never
activate
them?
Why
would
we
have
executive
officers
and
captains
who
do
come
into
contact
with
the
public,
but
you
know,
and
they
routinely
wear
a
uniform,
but
I
would
suspect
they
rarely
come
in
contact
with
the
suspect.
A
Meta
vice
chair,
some
of
the
medical
floors
for
the
record.
Thank
you
assemblywoman
for
that
question.
I
I
am
open
to
amendments
and
in
fact
I
will
candidly
say
that
I've
had
an
opportunity
to
have
numerous
conversations
with
local
jurisdictions
on
on
trying
to
narrowly
tailor
the
language
to
more
adequately
capture
the
intent.
A
I
agree
with
that
100,
if
you're
sitting
behind
a
desk
and
doing
administrative
duties,
mostly
throughout
the
year
hey,
but
you
still
wear
a
uniform.
I
agree
there
is
no
need
for
you
to
have
to
wear
a
body
camera.
A
In
that
scenario,
I
am
talking
about
ensuring
that
our
agencies
have
a
surplus
of
cameras
available
set
in
the
scenario
where
somebody
who
spends
the
whole
year
behind
a
desk,
but
then
maybe
gets
called
for
a
few
days
or
hours
that
that
camera
then
be
readily
available,
so
that
they
could
utilize
it
and
the
reason
the
reason
I
I
am
resistant
to
saying
simply
allowing
law
enforcement
to
do
it
themselves
is
because,
unfortunately,
and
understandably,
law
enforcement
and,
depending
on
who's
in
charge,
whether
it
be
a
specific
county
that
controls
the
funding
or
whoever
that
may
be,
you
have
to
look
at
what
are
what
priorities
are
and
how
are
you
going
to
utilize
money,
and
it
is
my
position
that
and
many
members
of
the
community
and
the
folk
that
I've
worked
with
that.
A
C
A
May
think
that
that
that
may
not
be
their
number
one
focus
and
we'll
utilize
the
services
different.
So
I
think
it's
the
job
of
the
legislature
to
interject
in
scenarios
like
that
and
where
we
have
folk,
like
mr
jackson,
who
often
when
we
talk
about
different
police
interactions,
we
don't
necessarily
take
that
lens
or
perspective
into
we.
Don't
we
don't
necessarily
account
or
engage
in
that
conversation.
A
A
You
know-
and
I
don't
think
I
overly
emphasize
at
the
beginning-
that
body
camera
footage
is
so
instrumental
for
how
law
enforcement
learns
and
interacts
and
modifies
training
and
utilizes
that
as
really
as
a
tool,
because
there's
nothing
like
real
life
interactions
to
serve
as
the
the
instrument
to
to
help
us
be
better
prepared
for
different
scenarios
to
dissect.
What
could
we
have
done
better
in
this
situation?
A
Where
did
this
escalate
or,
more
importantly,
good
habits,
good
practices?
How
did
this
officer
manage
to
de-escalate
this
particular
scenario
that
the
camera
serves
a
very
meaningful
and
purposeful
value
that
goes
beyond
just
protecting
the
members
of
the
community
and
the
police
in
a
particular
situation?
A
It
helps
us
improve
and
and
utilize
it
as
a
as
a
tool
for
for
training.
So
I
just
think
there's
so
much
incredible
value
to
it.
A
But
I
agree
with
you
and
I
am
open
to
other
suggestions
on
amending
this
language,
but
but
I
do
think
that
if
you're
going
to
interact
with
the
public,
there
has
to
be
a
camera
readily
available
for
you
to
use.
C
Well,
I
agree
with
you
and
I
agree
with
you
on
the
on
the
body
cams.
I
think
they've
they've
been
a
help
to
our
officers
and
you
know,
as
you
said,
for
training
and
and
actually
proving
them
innocent
of
false
charges,
and
you
know
it's
worked
well
for
the
public
and
the
officer.
I
totally
agree
on
that.
I
just
think
you
know
putting
this
mandate
on
every
little
department.
That's
got
different.
Nuances
could
be
an
issue,
so
I'd
appreciate.
If
we
could,
you
know
see
if
we
could
maybe
adjust
that
a
little
bit.
A
You
assemblywoman
assimilator
for
us
for
the
record,
and
you
got
my
word
that
I
will
continue
to
work
with
them.
F
Thank
you,
madam
by
sharon
and
mitcheron,
and
you
and
I
were
involved.
I
think
both
of
us
when
the
attorney
general
put
in
the
first
bill
for
body
cams
and
and-
and
that
was
a
long
long
discussion
on
you-
know
putting
it
on
phone
bills
and
stuff
like
this
and
then,
through
the
time
periods,
that's
passed.
F
Then
they
were
denied
funding
for
the
9-1-1
systems
and
mostly
the
enhanced
9-1-1
system,
but
where
I'm
at
right
now
is
I
I
agree
with
my
colleague,
and
I
think
he
should
have
these
cameras,
but
the
problem
is,
is
it
should
be
a
department
should
require
it
and
figure
out
how
they're
going
to
do
this
individually
and
like?
I
know
that
most
of
the
people
that's
on
this
list
are
already
using
body.
Cameras
are,
I
know
our
school
police
in
our
district
being
small.
They
still
have
body
cameras.
F
So
a
lot
of
these
agencies
have
them;
they
just
might
not
be
using
them,
and
but
the
problem
is,
is
we
can't
put
any
more
burden
back
on
the
police
departments
unless
we
find
a
way
to
fund
it
and
which
I
think
it's
already
there?
We
just
need
to
say
it
should
be
an
enabling
and
if
they
want
to
do
it,
then
they
should
be
able
to.
We
encourage
them
to
do
this.
F
Yeah
I'd
like
I'd
like
the
chairman
to
respond,
because
we
were
both
involved
when
when
this
originally
was
implemented,
and
it
would
it
worked
out
great
for
the
public
and
the
police
officers,
but
the
the
process
we
went
to
was
pretty
broad
and
widened
in,
and
I
know
that
las
vegas
metro,
they
didn't
use
their
money
for
that.
They
used
that.
I
think
for
the
911
system,
but
the
little
communities
could
not
and
that
created
a
problem.
So,
mr
chair,
maybe
you
can
address
some
of
the
issues
that
I've
got.
Thank
you.
A
Sure,
thank
you.
A
Somebody
else
for
that
question,
some
of
the
negro
floors
for
the
record-
and
I
do
recall
this
conversation
with
then
senator
ford
and
and
now
attorney
general
ford
and-
and
I
am
incredibly
appreciative
of
all
the
work
that
he
put
in
to
work
with
the
law
enforcement
to
to
really
get
to
the
position
where
we
are
now
and
understandably,
at
that
time,
I
think
there
were
unforeseen
consequences
and
circumstances
that
they
did
not
necessarily
take
into
account
in
that
conversation
and
or
for
fiscal
concerns
drafted
of
the
language
in
a
very
specific
way.
A
But
the
reality
is
that
today,
right
now,
as
the
law
sits,
there
are
scenarios
where
there
are
police
interactions
with
members
of
the
public,
and
there
are
no
there's
no
footage
available
and
the
reason
for
that
is
because
they
were
not
wearing
body
cameras,
and
it's
not
that
they
forgot
to
turn
it
on.
It's
not
that
they
forgot
to
wear
it.
That
day,
is
that
her,
the
nrs
as
written?
Now
they
were
not
required
to
do
so,
and
that's
really
the
heart
of
this
bill.
A
Because
the
the
members
of
of
law
enforcement
who
have
engaged
in
these
particular
interactions
and
that
weren't
wearing
a
body
cam
because
they
don't
routinely
interact
with
the
public
as
the
nrs
has
written
now,
we
are
continuing
to
have
scenarios
where
tragedies
occurred
and
whether
or
not
it
was
the
community
member
at
fault
or
the
member
of
law
enforcement.
A
Both
sides
are
left
pointing
the
finger
at
one
another
because
of
the
absence
of
the
camera,
and
you
know.
Fortunately,
there's
been
scenarios
where
horrific
acts
have
occurred
and
there
were
other
cameras
either
from
other
individuals
recording
or
maybe
from
a
a
particular
business
or
whatever.
It
may
be.
That
helps
put
piece
the
story
together,
but
you
know
what
happens
in
the
scenarios
where,
where
we
don't
have
that
readily
available-
and
that's
that's
really
at
the
core
of
this
particular
bill,
which
is
why
I
think
it's
absolutely
essential.
A
There's
just
stories
after
stories
after
stories
of
officer,
involved,
shootings
and
or
officers
being
engaged
by
individuals
and
that
we
don't
have
body
camera
available
because
they
didn't
have
to
wear
it.
And
so
that's
really
at
the
essence
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
now.
E
Thank
you.
That's
the
woman
nelson.
I
think
you're
assuming
flores
for
the
clarification.
I
don't
think
I
see
any
other
questions
if
you
do
have
questions
feel
free
to
just
send
me.
It
yourself.
E
All
right
seeing
no
questions
we'll
go
ahead
and
begin
to
hear
testimony.
I
just
want
to
make
it
abundantly
clear
for
the
committee
and
members
of
the
public
that
we
are
going
to
open
ourselves
to
have
20
minutes
of
testimony
on
each
side,
20
minutes
in
support,
20
minutes
in
opposition
and
20
minutes
in
neutral.
E
I
will
not
cut
off
speakers
as
they
go,
but
I
encourage
you
you
know
instead
of
making
redundant
remarks.
Please
feel
free
and
feel
empowered
to
just
say
ditto,
as
we
call
on
speakers.
Please
make
sure
that
you
state
your
name
for
the
record
clearly
and
that
you
spell
your
names
as
well
on
broadcast.
If
we
could
begin
going
to
testimony
in
support
of
ab131.
D
D
C
Ann
marie
grant
a
n
n
e
m
a
r
I
e
g
r,
a
n
t,
I'm
calling
in
support
of
the
bill.
I
can
attack
that
it
needs
to
be
mandated
that
when
they're
interacting
with
members
of
the
public,
they
should
have
their
body
cameras
on.
I
was
at
the
washoe
county
jail
last
summer.
We
fly
out
there
every
summer
to
protest
for
my
brother
who
was
killed
and
affixiated
at
the
jail.
C
They
went
back
inside
and
two
came
back
out
with
body
cam
cameras
on,
but
I
put
in
a
request
for
the
footage
and
there
were
cameras
outside
of
the
jail,
but
that
had
the
video
there
had
already
rolled.
So
I
only
got
the
interaction
afterwards
when
two
came
out
alone.
Luckily,
I
did
have
my
own
camera
recording
when
the
fix
came
and
surrounded
us,
but
I
fully
support
this
bill.
Thank.
C
C
Hello
again,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
again.
My
name
is
lenati
hackley,
it's
spelled
l-e-I-n-a-t-I
last
name
h-a-c-k-l-e-y
and
I'm
a
representative
for
more
than
a
hashtag.
I
would
first
like
to
first
define
the
riot
the
the
verbiage
riot
by
the
nrs.
If
two
or
more
persons
shall
actually
do
an
unlawful
act
of
violence,
either
with
or
without
a
common
cause
or
quarrel,
or
even
do
a
lawful
act
in
a
violent
and
illegal
manner,
they
commit
a
riot.
We
are
not
discussing
those
who
are
committing
unlawful
acts
or
of
violence.
C
We
are
discussing
the
peaceful
assemblies
so
when
we
discuss
this
bill,
it's
imperative
that
we
utilize
the
correct
legal
verbiage.
So
no
one
is
interpreting
the
bill
incorrectly
and
what
we're
supporting
now
with
this
particular
bill
being
proposed
today,
it's
adding
a
few
words
to
an
already
existing
bill,
which
is
called
provisions,
provisions
that
should
never
need
to
be
added
or
clarified
body
cam
should
be
implemented
regardless
there
should
be
no
exceptions.
C
So
we
live
stream
for
our
own
safety
so
that
we
can
make
sure
that
we're
not
the
next
byron
williams
or
the
next
jorge
gomez.
We
can't
trust
that
our
own
police
department
will
do
the
right
thing.
Will
this
bill
actually
push
for
body
cameras
to
be
worn?
The
pre-existing
bill
didn't
so?
I
guess
our
question
is:
will
this
one,
if
so,
we're
in
support
of
this
bill?
We
are
in
support
of
any
bill
that
pushes
for
more
transparency
and
accountability.
C
D
M
What
we
are
reviewing
our
cases
so
body
cams
are
both
a
great
tool,
but
something
that
does
need
to
be
looked
at
by
this
legislative
body,
because
the
departments
enacting
their
own
policy,
don't
always
get
it
right.
Nor
do
the
officers
practice
it
right.
So
it's
important
for
this
body
to
work
on
body
cam
reform
with
things
such
as
this
bill.
So
we
are
grateful
for
chairman
flores
for
bringing
this
bill
forward
thankful
for
the
police
officers
that
do
support
body,
cam
and
body
cam
reform
and
urge
the
committee
to
support
this
bill.
Thank
you.
D
G
Hello
and
thank
you
vice
chair
and
committee
members,
this
is
nick
schipec.
G
N-I-C-K-S-H-E-T-A-C-K
on
behalf
of
the
aclu
of
nevada,
we
wish
to
echo
the
sentiments
of
the
callers
before
us.
We
are
very
sensitive
to
the
fiscal
restraints
of
some
of
our
smaller
police
departments
and
believe
that
this
body
needs
to
find
the
proper
funding
to
ensure
that
body
cams
are
available
to
all
law
officers
who
interact
with
the
public
at
any
time.
That
is,
money
well
spent
both
for
law
officers
and
for
the
public.
J
G
G
E
Thank
you,
I
appreciate
it
and
I
might
have
missed
it
there.
Thank
you,
sir,
and
broadcast.
If
you
could
please
go
to
the
next
caller
in
support
of
ab131.
D
C
C
And
I'm
a
policy
director
with
the
progressive
leadership
alliance
of
nevada
here
in
support
of
assembly
bill,
131,
the
global
pandemic
and
the
rise
of
the
black
lives
matter.
Movement
created
a
watershed
moment
for
change.
2020
was
a
year
reckoning
like
that
before,
where
hundreds
of
thousands
of
people
across
the
nation
took
to
the
streets
to
demand
actions
to
address
police
violence
after
the
murders
of
george
floyd
and
brianna
taylor.
C
At
these
protests
we
saw
law
enforcement,
violence
towards
community
members,
arrests
of
hundreds,
including
legal
observers,
and,
as
you
heard
earlier
today,
the
murder
of
jorge
gomez,
without
body
cameras
requiring
all
officers
engaging
with
the
community
to
wear
body
cameras,
is
key
to
developing
greater
transparency
and
accountability
from
our
law
enforcement
systems.
We
are
your
support
of
this
legislation.
Thank
you.
D
C
C
As
we
know,
he
was
walking
on
a
public
sidewalk
back
to
his
vehicle
in
front
of
the
lloyd
jewish
federal
building.
As
his
vehicle
was
parked
adjacent
to
this
area.
My
son
was
exercising
legally
exercising
our
first
and
second
amendment
rights
as
he
was
peacefully
protesting
for
george
floyd
and
her
brothers
and
sisters
against
police
brutality
and
violence.
C
Videos
have
recently
been
released
that
contradict
the
police
narrative,
as
is
typical
with
lvmpd.
In
my
son's
case,
we
had
to
file
a
lawsuit
and
request
assistance
from
the
attorney
general's
office
just
to
get
surveillance
footage
from
the
surrounding
buildings,
based
on
the
72-hour
briefing
given
by
lombardo.
There
were
16
office
officers
in
the
immediate
area,
15
had
no
body
cameras,
one
did
not
have
his
body
camera
activated
in
addition
to
these
four
office.
C
In
addition,
the
four
officers
that
killed
my
son,
dan
emerton,
andrew
locker,
vernon
ferguson
and
fr
and
ryan
fryman,
none
had
body
cameras.
We
have
requested
body
cam
footage
from
john
squio,
which
was
the
first
officer
to
interact
with
my
son
and
shoot
the
five
little
leaf
of
rounds
as
he
was
waiting
at
the
crosswalk,
along
with
those
officers
who
are
on
the
top
of
the
stairs
but
is
still
unknown.
If
they
have
any
body
cameras,
there
are
more
than
30
officers
in
that
area.
C
The
purpose
of
this
bill
is
to
hold
officers
accountable
for
their
actions,
good
or
bad,
by
requiring
them
to
work
to
have
working
turned
on
body
cameras.
It
amazes
me
how
the
police
narrative
was
at
the
beginning
that
my
son
shot
officers
then
changed
to
point
to
his
gun,
then
went
to
reach
for
his
weapon
now
seen
the
videos.
All
you
see
is
the
weapon
behind
his
back.
C
As
my
son
is
running
away,
we
need
ab-131
to
require
all
officers
to
wear
body
cameras,
regardless
of
their
department
position
or
title
if
you
are
interacting
with
the
public.
Even
if
you
typically
don't
when
you,
when
you
do,
you
need
a
working
body
camera
period,
the
lack
of
transparency,
accountability
and
frankly,
lies
are
the
reasons
that
communities
do
not
trust
the
police
department.
They
should
be
held
to
higher
standards.
They
should
be
fired,
arrested,
charged
and
convicted
of
the
murder
of
my
son
justice
for
jorge
gomez.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you,
man
for
continuing
to
share
your
story
with
this
committee.
We're
we're
honored
and
thank
you.
We
really
do
appreciate
you
using
your
platform
to
share
the
policy
changes
that
we
can
make
to
empower
our
community.
Then
I
will
now
go
to
the
next
testimonial
report
of
ab131.
D
G
Good
morning
this
is
kendra
burchie
b-e-r-t-s-e-h-y
with
the
washa
county
public
defender's
office.
Thank
you
vice
chair
torrez,
for
allowing
me
to
speak
today.
I
want
to
thank
assemblyman
flores
for
bringing
forward
this
extremely
crucial
bill.
As
you've
heard
from
the
testimony
from
those
before
me,
there
is
a
significant
need
in
nevada
to
ensure
that
all
officers
have
body
cameras.
Unfortunately,
it
is
not
the
case,
and
I
can.
G
I
can't
even
count
on
my
hands
how
many
times
I've
been
attempting
to
review
body
camera
footage
to
find
out
that
that
officer
just
didn't
have
one
that
day
or
that
officer
is
a
detective,
and
so
it
didn't
have
to
happen,
or
that
officer
is
part
of
a
special
task
force,
but
they
don't
have
to
wear
one.
So,
even
though
they
were
sent
out
to
specifically
interact
and
investigate
a
crime
they
didn't
have
to
wear
one.
G
I
appreciate
that
and
several
members
of
this
body
have
been
working
towards
ensuring
that
we
have
what
we
need
to
rely
on.
Our
police
officers,
when
they're
in
in
the
field-
I
would
just
note
too
that
there's
been
several
instances
where
they
just
decide,
not
to
press
record,
to
record
some
witnesses
but
record
for
other
witnesses,
although
this
bill
does
not
touch
it,
I
hope
in
the
future
we
will
consider
implementing
change
that
will
actually
hold
those
officers
accountable
when
they
choose
to
not
provide
and
press
play
to
record
their
interactions.
E
Thank
you,
miss
burchie
and
and
just
to
the
the
public
knows
and
all
the
colors
and
support
we're
at
about
12
minutes
of
colors
and
support,
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
continue
on
and
at
20
minutes
we'll
go
ahead
and
go
into
the
opposition
broadcast.
If
we
could
please
go
to
the
next
caller
in
support.
D
C
E
Thank
you.
We
will
now
hear
testimony
in
opposition
of
assembly
bill
131
broadcast.
If
you
could
go
to
the
first
testimony
in
opposition.
J
J
J
J
If
that
officer
goes
to
lunch
and
something
happens
or
that
officer
is
on
his
way
home
and
something
happens,
the
same
argument
could
be
made.
Well,
why
wasn't
his
body
camera
on?
We
currently
have
3
300
police
officers
on
our
department
if
every
single
officer
had
to
be
equipped
with
a
body
camera.
This
is
a
cost
of
well
over
a
million
dollars
a
year.
J
But
if
you
do
the
math,
this
would
mean
that
we
would
have
about
1600
cameras
sitting
on
a
shelf
for
99
percent
of
the
time
for
those
one
or
two
occasions
that
may
occur
a
year
where
an
officer
might
have
to
put
a
uniform
on.
In
fact,
if
this
bill
were
to
pass,
I
myself
would
have
to
wear
a
body
camera
when
I
go
to
the
police
memorial
once
a
year
in
my
uniform
and
on
september
11th,
when
I
put
a
uniform
on
in
fact
on
october
1,
when
that
horrible
incident
occurred.
J
As
soon
as
I
got
a
call
that
there
was
an
active
shooter
on
the
strip.
I
put
my
uniform
on
and
responded
and
I
was
not
wearing
a
body
camera.
This
bill
would
have
required
me
to
go
to
an
area
command
to
find
a
camera,
because
the
cameras
have
to
be
docked
and
they
have
to
be
charged
and
the
data
on
them
has
to
be
downloaded
so
officers
don't
take
cameras,
home
they're
at
stations
where
they're
docked
to
a
docking
unit.
J
I
would
have
had
to
have
responded
to
a
specific
area
command
and
get
a
camera
and
put
it
on
before
I
could
respond
to
the
scene.
I
also
think
it's
interesting
that
the
the
unions
are
supporting
this.
This
change
in
the
law,
because
initially,
when
we
implemented
body
cameras
in
2013,
we
had
pushback
from
the
unions
that
didn't
want
to
wear
cameras
and
said
it
was
a
collective
bargaining
issue.
J
The
current
statute.
The
way
it
reads
today
would
apply
to
the
story
that
was
told
by
one
of
the
presenters
about
not
having
a
body
camera
when
the
people
were
littering
and
shooting
guns
from
the
car.
We
also
have
a
system
in
place
to
track
compliancy
on
body
cameras
currently,
and
we
have
a
strict
policy
in
place
for
turning
off
cameras
or
not
complying
with
the
policy
and
discipline
can
come
from
that
when
we
determine
an
officer
is
not
following
the
policy
in
to
wrap
up
my
testimony
so
that
others
have
a
chance
to
speak.
J
I
think
that
this
bill
is
going
to
cost
the
taxpayers
a
lot
of
money
and
it's
going
to
only
basically
apply
in
those
rare
cases
where
we
have
a
civil
unrest
situation,
or
we
have
an
emergency
where
an
officer
that
normally
doesn't
wear
a
uniform
has
to
put
one
on
and
and
response.
So
thank
you,
madam
chair.
We
are
opposed.
E
E
And
we
might
have
lost
him
there,
but
I
I
know
that
we'll
have
some
other
law
enforcement
on
so
we'll
be
sure
to
ask
them
when
they're
on
broadcast.
If
we
could
go
to
the
next
testimony
in
opposition
of
assembly
bill
to
assembly,
bill
131.
D
M
We
understand
the
intent
as
presented
that
can
apply
to
a
very
large
number
of
unintended
peace
officers
in
nevada,
whether
or
not
they
wear
what
you
would
consider
to
be
a
traditional
police,
uniform,
there's
been
a
state
in
nevada
opinion
that
may
apply
that
claims.
The
quote
uniform
is
the
actual
uniform
that
you
recognize
and
includes
the
accoutrements
of
it
to
include
a
badge
and
a
gun.
M
An
off-duty
officer
that
makes
the
choice
to
engage
in
a
police
or
life-saving
matter
places
themselves
on
duty.
So
this
bill
would
apply.
This
language
is
not
just
cumbersome
or
not
well
thought
out.
The
current
language
of
289
830
adequately
captures
what
was
extensively
worked
on
and
approved
in
prior
sessions
by
this
body.
So
we
ask
that
you
join
us
in
opposing
this
change.
Thank
you.
E
E
Connected
believe
something-
and
I
I
imagine
that
we'll
have
other
members
of
law
enforcement
calling
in
we
would
just
like
that
clarification.
I
think
that
it
would
be
helpful
for
some
of
the
committee
members
they
reached
out,
but
I
don't
think
it
was
answered
earlier.
We
can
now
go
to
the
next
testimony
in
opposition
of
ab131.
D
M
However,
the
city
is
opposed
to
assembly
bill
131,
because
we
feel
that
the
current
lane,
the
current
law
governing
body-worn
cameras
by
our
police
officers,
is
working
well
in
our
agency
and
for
our
community
and
to
answer
vice
chair's
question.
I'd
be
happy
to
get
that
information
on
the
consequences
of
turning
off
the
body.
Cam.
E
Thank
you,
sir,
and
we
can
now
go
to
the
next
testimony
in
opposition
of
assembly
bill
131.
A
I
wanted
to
first
once
again
thank
mr
jackson
from
from
the
nevada
police
union
and
president
kaplan
for
working
alongside
of
me
with
this
particular
bill
and
seeing
the
importance
of
how
necessary
it
is
to
ensure
that
we
protect
the
community
as
well
as
members
of
law
enforcement.
I
just
wanted
to
address
some
of
the
opposition's
points.
A
First,
one
of
the
concerns
that
I
heard
is
that
this
is
expensive
and
my
sentiment
and
response
to
that
is
education
is
expensive.
Healthcare
is
expensive.
A
Mean
more
to
us
as
a
society
than
the
public
benefit,
and
it
is
my
sentiment
that
the
public
benefit
of
ensuring
that
members
of
law
enforcement
have
access
to
a
body
camera
so
that
they
can
be
protected
in
scenarios
where
they
are
put
in
danger
or
whether
accused
or
falsely,
accused
or
whatever
it
may
be,
and
so
that
we
can
ensure,
on
the
other
side,
that
community
members
feel
that
there
is
transparency,
understand
that
if
there
is
ever
an
interaction
that
they
felt
was
wrong
or
that
something
was
done
in
violation
of
the
of
the
law
that
they
have,
that
body
camera
there.
A
That's
that's
really
what
we're
weighing
here.
I
I
think
it
says
a
lot
for
us
to
to
have
the
police
union
present
and
and
testify
and
provide
specific
examples
of
when
a
body
camera
could
have
been
so
incredibly
beneficial
to
that
particular
member
of
law
enforcement
and
then
that
we
have
opposition
and
talk
about
how
everything's
working,
which
is
another
point
that
I
wanted
to
address.
A
If
the
bill
as
originally
drafted
was
working,
we
wouldn't
be
here.
Having
this
conversation,
we
wouldn't
have
families
talking
about
how
there
was
incidences
that
weren't
documented
by
body
cameras.
We
wouldn't
be
engaging
in
this
conversation
about
how
there
are
particular
scenarios
that
happen
where
members
of
law
enforcement
will
interact
with
the
community
and
don't
have
a
body
camera.
A
We
consistently
work
on
legislation.
I
see
the
nrs
as
a
living
breathing
a
document
that
we
will
come
back
and
consistently
improve
on
the
fact
that
we
worked
on
a
bill
in
2013
and
we
worked
very
diligently
on.
It
does
not
mean
that
somehow
magically
that
meant
that
every
problem
was
fixed
revolving
body
cameras.
A
We
have
a
responsibility
to
continue
to
improve
where
our
community
demands
that
this
is
not
a
one-sided
issue.
Law
enforcement
members
of
law
enforcement,
along
with
the
community,
recognize
the
importance
of
addressing
this
very
huge
loophole
and
void.
That,
unfortunately,
has
many
examples
throughout
the
years
where
nothing
was
caught
on
camera.
A
Specifically,
I
wanted
to
close
my
remarks
in
gratitude
to
the
gomez
family,
who
I
have
had
an
opportunity
to
work
with,
and
so
many
others
who,
after
experiencing
a
very
tragic
loss,
took
it
upon
themselves
to
become
advocates
for
other
mothers
and
other
family
members
and
other
siblings,
so
that
they
never
have
to
engage
in
a
situation
where
they're
asking
questions
about
transparency
and
that
they
can't
get
an
answer
because
there
wasn't
a
camera
present.
A
You
know
this
is
for
them
and
I
and
I
very
much
appreciate
their
work.
I
am
committed
to
working
with
all
those
who
called
in
opposition
and
continue
this
dialogue,
but
I
simply
do
not
agree
with
the
notion
that
the
law
as
written
is
working.
A
There's
too
many
examples
of
situations
where,
unfortunately,
there
was
no
body
camera
present.
Thank
you,
madam
vice
chair,.
E
E
I
think
I'm
going
to
have
to
make
a
tick
tock
video
now
where
there
is
a
gavel,
moving
back
and
forth.
A
Thank
you,
madam
vice
chair,
and
thank
you
so
many
macarthur
for
volunteering
or
be
better
said,
but
I'm
told
that
you'll
be
a
star
of
the
next
tick
tock
video
members.
This
takes
us
to
our
very
last
bill
presentation.
I
want
to
thank
assemblywoman
kasama
for
her
patience.
I
know
that
she
presented
a
bill
earlier
this
morning
and
so
she's
going
back-to-back.
Understandably,
that
is
heavy.
I
can
imagine
last
night
was
a
very
long
night
for
you.
K
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
committee
of
government
affairs.
I
know
we're
all
working
very
hard
and
it's
just
that
time
of
year,
and
so,
but
I
am
here,
I'm
going
to
wrap
up
the
morning
meeting
for
you,
so
I'm
here
to
present
today,
assembly,
bill
408-
and
I
just
want
to
start
by
clarifying
this-
is
not
a
change
to
the
hotel
room
tax.
So
I've
had
some
people
asking
me.
Is
there
a
change
regarding
that?
No
change!
K
This
really
has
to
do
with
the
collection
of
the
hotel
room
tax,
no
change
in
rates,
no
change
in
any
of
that.
It
is
just
simply
the
collection
of
the
room
tax.
This
was
brought
to
my
attention
by
john
johnson,
who
has
been
in
the
hotel
industry
and
I'll.
Let
him
introduce
his
background
here
very
shortly,
but
he
has
become
an
agent
in
my
in
my
office
in
in
my
brokerage,
and
we
spoke
about
this
several
years
ago
now
fast
forward,
I'm
assemblywoman.
K
He
came
to
me
again
because
now
we
have
more
of
an
urgency
in
our
conversation,
and
so
what
we're
looking
at
is
we're
looking
at
the
online
travel
agencies
and
how
they
are
collecting
the
room
tax
and
how
they're
remitting
it
to
the
state
is
really
what
this
entire
bill
is
about.
K
L
Okay
well
good
morning,
good
morning,
my
name
is
john
johnson,
that
is
spell
j-o-h-n
j-o-h-n-s-o-n
and
I'm
a
proud,
a
proud
nevadan.
L
I
want
to
graduate
from
high
school
here
in
clark
county
and
I'm
alumni
from
unr
I'd
like
to
give
you
my
you
know
my
introduction
on
how
an
outdated
law
has
cost
us
tens
of
millions
of
dollars
throughout
the
year,
and
so
in
fact,
when
I
looked
into
it,
I
found
that
in
2019
it
probably
cost
us
around
57
million
dollars
and
it's
just
due
to
a
tax
law
and
the
the
invention
of
the
internet
and
the
online
travel
agencies
that
happened
in
in
the
1990s.
L
So
if
you
could
look
to
the
the
one
handout
that
you
have,
which
would
be
how
bookings
are
how
taxes
are
collected.
So
from
that,
you
can
see
when
I
hope,
when
a
guest
of
ours
books
directly
through
a
hotel,
the
entire
tax
is
collected,
and
then
it
is
submitted
to
the
state
with
an
online
travel
agency.
The
guest
still
pays
the
full
rate
and
the
full
amount
is
still
collected
with
that
portion
that
the
the
online
travis
online
travelers
travel
agency
paid
for
only
goes
to
the.
L
Let
me
let
me
start
over
again
so
on
the
first
thing
that
when
the
hotel
pays,
when
the
guest
pays
directly
to
the
hotel
they
will,
they
will
collect
the
tax.
The
tax
goes
directly
to
the
state
of
nevada.
When
the
online
travel
agency
does
it,
they
collect
the
full
amount.
However,
they
only
pay
on
the
amount
that
they
buy
the
room.
For
now.
The
the
traditional
way
when
this
law
was
written
was
was
taken
like
this
and
then
a
travel
agent
booked
a
room
through
the
hotel.
L
The
hotel
collected
the
full
amount,
which
was
in
in
this
case,
say
ten
dollars
and
they
paid
it
all
the
way
to
the
state.
Then
they
turned
around
and
paid
the
rest,
the
commission
source
to
the
online
travel
agency.
L
So
what
happened
was
in
the
1990s
when
the
truck
the
online
travel
agencies
came
around,
we
had
a
change
in
policy,
but
the
tax
code
remained
the
same.
So
now
the
online
travel
agency
would
sell
the
room,
but
they
would
buy
the
room
at
a
discounted
rate.
L
So,
as
that
happened,
they
would
take
the
portion
that
would
be
paid
to
the
state
that
the
guests
paid
whatever
their
percentage,
was
and
keep
it,
retain
it
and
not
paid
to
the
state.
So
I
found
out
about
this
in
2012
and
these
dates
are
important
to
remember
how
long
ago
I
found
out
about
it
when
I
found
out
about
it.
I
found
out
about
it
because
I
was
working
in
lake
tahoe.
I
was
in
charge
of
the
rooms
division
and
I
worked
directly
with
the
with
the
online
travel
agents.
L
Once
that
happened,
the
online
travel
agencies
were
calling
me
directly
and
wanting
to
get
the
paperwork
as
fast
as
they
could
I
kind
of
stepped
back.
I
couldn't
believe
anybody
was
so
excited
about
collecting
taxes,
but
what
I
found
out
was
exactly
what
I
explained
to
you:
when
we
increased
the
tax,
we
just
gave
them
more
money,
so
when
they
came
to
me
like
they
did
every
other
year
or
so
or
biannually,
I
spoke
to
them
about
this.
I
said
hey
when
I
look
at
your
rates.
L
You
have
a
line
item
that
says
taxes
and
fees,
but
when
I
look
at
it,
it's
the
same
amount
of
taxes
that,
when
our
guests
book
directly
through
us
that
they
pay
what
is
this
fee?
They
then
they
explain
to
me:
hey.
We
only
pay
on
the
amount
that
you
charge
us
for
the
hotel,
and
I
questioned
that
I
said:
hey,
you're,
not
the
guest
and
you
don't
buy
the
rooms
until
you
sell
the
rooms.
Anything
that
I
give
you
in
a
block
you
give
back
to
me
and
how
is
this
fair?
L
C
L
Well,
what
happened
in
that
time
is
this.
As
the
recession
went
on,
the
online
travel
agencies
were
able
to
consume
more
of
their
competitors
so
now,
basically,
what
we
have
is
a
duopoly.
We
have
properties
that
are
under
expedia,
which
would
be
orbitz
travelocy
roon.com,
and
we
have
another
one
under
bookings.com,
which
is
priceline
and
kayak.
So
as
the
dewalties
came
stronger,
they
were
able
to
put
more
pressure
on
the
hotels,
so
the
hotels
need
to
be
on
the
first
page
when
people
look
for
it.
L
So
if
you're
on
the
first
page,
you
have
a
10
10
times
better
chance
of
getting
your
room
booked.
So
to
do
this,
they
either
had
to
advertise
with
with
the
online
travel
agent
or
they
had
to
give
up
a
bigger
percentage.
Why
this
is
important
as
what
we
used
to
pay
a
travel
agent.
15
percent
now
came
to
20
and
even
30
percent
of
some.
L
So
again,
if
we
go
back
and
change
the
law
to
what
it
was
meant
to
be
in
the
first
place
was
to
collect
the
tax
from
the
amount
the
guest
pays
with
the
resolvers.
There
was
another
phenomenon
that
happened
during
this
time,
and
that
is
most
of
you
know
that
there
is
a
resort
fee,
so
resort
fees
basically
came
about
because
hotels
needed
to
recover
the
amount
of
loss
that
they
were
giving
up
from
their
room
revenue,
so
they
created
the
resort
fee.
L
L
Is
that
there
are
consumer
groups
out
there
are
trying
to
put
get
rid
of
the
resort
fee
and
put
it
back
into
the
to
the
full
rate
of
the
room
to
disclose
that.
If
that
happens,
then
that
percentage
of
the
tax
that
we
get
and
again
my
example-
was
57
million
dollars
would
go
over
to
the
over
the
online
travel
agency.
The
other
thing
to
remember
on
this
is
this
booking.com,
which
is
part
of
the
duopoly
started
to
institute
last
year
that
they
wanted
the
full
command
commission
based
on
the
resort
fee.
L
L
You
know
there's
a
couple
different
arguments
that
you're
going
to
hear
and
one
of
the
arguments
is
going
to
be
that
we
need
them
to
promote
originally
when
this
tax
came
about,
it
was
the
purpose
of
it
to
promote
nevada
through
our
convention
authority
and
then
with
other
things,
have
been
tacked
onto
it.
Three
percent
down
here
in
in
clark
county
comes
to
our
school
system.
Another
one
becomes
into
our
infrastructure.
L
That
goes
anywhere
from
the
bellagio
fountains
to
the
caesar
palace
forms
they
come
here
for
that
they
also
come
to
what
our,
what
our
our
former
nevadans
did
like
build,
hoover,
dam
or
or
virginia
city,
and
they
come
because
we
design
events
that
they
like
to
that
they
like
to
come
back
to.
That
would
be
the
national
cowboy
poetry
festival,
and
it
also
is
hot
august
nights,
as
well
as
street
vibrations,
which
many
nevadans
work
on
and
design.
L
If
we
recover
all
this
money,
we'll
put
it
again
to
good
use
again,
it
goes
to
our
school
systems,
our
infrastructure,
as
well
as
the
state
of
nevada,
and
we
can
build
our
resources,
so
they'll
come
back
because
they
can
get
in
and
out
of
the
airport
safely,
they
feel
safe
and
they
are
served
by
nevadans
who
have
been
well
educated,
I'm
open
for
questions,
and
I'm
will
willing
to
talk
to
anybody
that
that
opposes.
Thank
you.
So
much.
K
Would
you
like
me
to
do
closing
remarks
or
do
you
want
to
have
questions
first?
Oh.
K
The
only
thing
I
wanted
to
clarify
is,
I
know
john
mentioned,
you
know
the
room
taxes
go
to
the
state.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify.
We
understand
it
goes
to
the
municipalities,
local
networks.
A
F
Please,
thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
question
I've
got
is
when
I'm
looking
at
the
bill
and
it
it
looks
like
this
brings
money
back
to
the
state
and
not
takes
it
away.
F
Am
I
am
I
looking
at
this
wrong
because
it
looks
like
it's
a
income,
not
an
alco,
but
it
it
still
shows
that
it's
a
physical
note.
Well,
actually,
it's
not
even
a
physical
notice.
It's
a
two-third
vote.
I
don't
understand
why
it's
doing
that.
A
Wait
and
who
is
that
assemblywoman.
K
Yes,
so
I
had
the
bill,
but
there
I've
had
so
many
people
reach
out
to
me,
stakeholders
with
wanting
us
to
have
more
information.
K
I've
had
counties
reach
out
to
me,
so
I've
had
a
lot
of
people
reach
out
to
me
regarding
wanting
to
have
more
input
in
in
this
process,
and
so
it
has
gone
from
a
bill
to
a
study
and
that's
the
amendment.
That's
posted
on
nellis
that
this
will
go
to
a
study,
but
we
wanted
all
of
you
to
be
aware
of
what
the
issues
were
for
this
study
and
and
hopefully
ask
for
your
approval
for
the
study.
K
Well,
I
think,
based
on
the
presentation
you
heard,
I
think
I
think
the
issue
here
is
how
the
room
taxes
are
collected.
Are
there
room
taxes
being
collected
that
are
being
charged
to
the
consumer
when
they
go
into
the
brick
and
mortar
hotel
that
are
not
being
possibly
not
being
remitted
to
the
local
municipality
is?
What
is
what
is
the
flow
of?
How
that
is
being
done?
Is
there
loss
of
revenues?
Is
there?
K
K
A
You
thank
you,
assemblywoman
members,
any
additional
questions.
C
C
C
Is
there
a
way,
maybe
to
also
consider
to
think
about
that?
If
the
study
is
adopted
of
ways
to
increase.
K
Revenue
based
upon
this
item,
so
it's
not
just
dealing
with
this
one
issue.
I
would
certainly
like
to
have
all
the
stakeholders
be
part
of
it:
the
resort
association,
the
online
travel
companies.
You
know,
managers
how
they
handle
it
in
their
various
resorts.
The
counties
I'd
like
to
have
as
many
stakeholders
as
possible.
I
think
that's.
The
only
way
we
end
up
with
good
legislation
is
having
everybody
involved.
That
would
be
my
goal.
C
A
A
Seeing
none
at
this
time
we'll
open
up
the
hearing
for
those
wishing
to
testify
in
support
of
assembly
bill
4408
broadcast.
Please.
D
D
M
M
The
nevada
resort
association
enjoys
a
great
working
relationship
with
the
otcs
and
they
do
spend
anywhere
in
any
given
year,
almost
100
million
dollars,
if
not
over
100
million
dollars
in
destination
marketing,
and
so
because
of
that
great
relationship
that
we
enjoy
with
them.
We
would
like
to
see
this
go
to
study
and
get
all
the
stakeholders
involved
to
craft
a
good
policy
going
forward.
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
any
questions.
I
will
stand
for
any
questions
if
necessary.
A
Thank
you.
I
don't
believe
we
have
any
questions
at
this
time.
Thank
you
for
calling
in
next
caller
in
support
of
assembly
bill
408.
A
Thank
you
at
this
time
we'll
invite
those
wishing
to
testify
in
the
neutral
position
for
assembly
bill
408.
K
Yes,
you
know
the
the
nevada's
travel
sector
has
been
heavily
impacted
by
the
covet
19
pandemic,
and
the
travel
sector
is
an
integral
part
of
the
nevada
economy,
and
a
recovery
in
the
travel
sector
will
be
an
integral
part
for
the
state's
overall
recovery
in
calendar
year.
K
2018,
the
56
million
people
who
visited
nevada
collectively
spent
65.5
billion
here
up
63.7
billion
from
the
year
before
the
total
amount
from
the
year
before
the
growth
of
online
travel
planning
tools
has
most
definitely
played
a
goal
in
increasing
the
convenience
and
ease
for
travelers,
and
by
looking
at
how
those
tools
are
used.
We
as
lawmakers
can
make
more
and
better
informed
decisions
regarding
the
funding
and
priorities
prioritization
of
the
sector's
development.
K
I
want
to
thank
the
various
stakeholders.
This
is
a
complicated
issue.
There
are
many
people
involved
and
I
want
to
thank
everybody.
Who's
been
working
on
this
with
me.
We
have
a
great
opportunity
to
find
common
sense
solutions
to
continue
to
support
nevada
businesses,
nevada
citizens
to
help
maintain
our
beautiful
state
to
help
to
continue
to
attract
tourists
that
come
here,
because
we
are
this
great
state.
So
I
thank
everybody
for
their
input.
Thank
you
for
listening
to
us
and
I
really
urge
your
support
for
ab408
for
us
to
conduct
this
study
this
year.
A
Thank
you,
assemblywoman
kasama,
at
this
time
we'll
go
ahead
and
close
out
the
hearing
on
assembly,
bill
408
and
the
last
item
on
our
agenda
is
public
comment.
I
want
to
remind
those
of
you
wishing
to
testify
during
public
comment
that
it
is
not
a
time
to
re-hear
a
particular
bill.
It
is
a
time
for
you
to
speak
about
general
matters
and
fall
within
the
curvy
of
this
committee.
A
D
D
D
C
C
They
have
other
methods
that
involve
their
negligence.
Recklessness
kathleen
d
guy
died
from
blunt
force,
injuries
and
the
manner
was
ruled
an
accident.
According
to
police,
kathleen
was
walking
on
the
5100
block
of
boulder
highway
when
she
was
struck
by
a
las
vegas
vegas
metropolitan
police
cruiser.
C
A
And
thank
you
ma'am
again
for
sharing
your
story
as
you've
been
doing
throughout
the
session.
I
think
it's
admirable
for
you
to
be
so
persistent
to
ensure
that
folk
know
the
story
of
your
brother.
We
will
continue
with
those
wishing
to
join
us
for
public
comment.
Next
caller.
Please.
A
Thank
you.
So
members,
as
you
see,
it's
been
quite
a
week
and
it's
gonna
continue.
So
I
appreciate
everybody
powering
through.
I
know
that
all
of
you
have
numerous
bills
that
you're
presenting
you're
working
your
bills,
you're
trying
to
figure
out
what's
happening,
so
I
I
just
wanted
to
say.
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
the
work
you're
doing
on
behalf
of
your
constituents.
A
We
got
one
more
day
of
this
craziness,
so
let's
power
through
and
hopefully
enjoy
ourselves
some
relaxing
time
over
the
weekend.
But
for
now
we
work
hard
tomorrow
we're
going
to
meet
again
at
8.
Am
we
have
on
the
agenda
assembly,
bill,
338
assembly,
bill
362
and
assembly
bill
397
for
hearings,
and
then
we
have
a
voluminous
work
session.
A
Make
sure
you
give
yourself
an
opportunity
to
review
that
that
work
session?
Excuse
me
that
agenda
in
general
is
going
to
change.
Obviously,
we've
had
bills
today
that
we'll
be
adding
so
know
that
that
work
session
document
is
going
to
change.
A
A
A
Thank
you
all
for
your
hard
work
and
I
would
like
to
adjourn
today's
meeting
in
honor
and
pay
my
respects
to
the
very
hard-working
community
members,
particularly
gomez
family,
who
has
just
been
absolutely
amazing
in
the
work
and
advocacy
that
they're
doing
this
meeting
is.