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C
A
A
Please
let
the
record
reflect
that
we
have
a
quorum.
I
know
assemblywoman
brownmay
is
presenting
a
bill
in
a
different
committee.
Mr
secretary,
please
mark
her
as
absent
excuse
and
should
she
be
able
to
join
us
at
a
later
time.
Please
marker,
as
present
good
morning
members,
I
hope
everybody's
doing
well.
A
We
started
in
very
good
spirits
this
morning
having
some
fun
and
positive
energy
here
with
celebrating
april
fools,
and
I
hope
the
members
recognize
that
that
was
the
intent
with
the
pronouncing
everybody's
first
name,
as
opposed
to
your
last.
That
was
at
my
request-
and
I
forced
our
secretary
to
do
that
so
know
that
that
was
my
doing
a
couple
of
things.
So,
first
of
all,
I'd
like
to
take
a
very
quick
personal
point
of
privilege
at
this
time.
It
is
my
father's
birthday.
A
I
know
that
it
is
not
customary
for
him
to
watch
hearings.
I
don't
think
he's
actually
ever
watched
one,
but
I
just
very
quickly
wanted
to
take
a
few
seconds
to
wish
him
a
very
happy
birthday,
papa.
A
Thank
you
all
appreciate
that,
so
I'm
going
to
take
the
agenda
slightly
out
of
order
today
in
the
interest
of
of
helping
some
of
our
members
who
have
40
different
things
that
they're
trying
to
juggle
at
this
time.
So
I
think
the
way
we
can
go
about
it
is
we'll.
Do
assembly
build
245
second
and
we'll
do
assembly
build
325
first
and
then
we'll
close
it
out
with
the
assembly
built
365..
A
I
will
give
her
some
time
to
jump
in.
I
don't
believe
I
see
her
yet,
but
if
we
could
give
her
a
heads
up
that
we'd
like
to
start
with
her
just
in
the
interest
of
helping
our
other
folk
get
this
taken
care
of.
While
we're
doing
that,
I
want
to
remind
everybody
that
to
please
keep
your
microphone
on
me.
Unless
you
are
speaking,
please
make
sure
you
give
yourself
an
opportunity
to
ask
a
few
questions,
but
because
we're
in
a
time
crunch.
A
Now,
if
you
could
pick
your
favorite
question,
maybe
one
or
two
and
try
to
limit
it
to
that,
just
for
the
sake
of
allowing
for
this
to
move
as
fast
as
we
can
we're
at
a
big
time
crunch
and
as
you
saw
yesterday,
every
meeting
keeps
going
later
and
later.
So
I
would
ask
that
if,
if
you
pick
your
favorite
questions
and
and
focus
on
those,
but
with
that,
do
we
have
a
assembly
woman
present
yet.
A
Then,
let's
do
this,
then
there's
no
reason
why
I
can't
go
first
so
rather
than
then
starting
with
her
we'll
start
off
with
assembly
bill
245,
and
if
somebody
can
please
notify
assemblywoman
kusama
that
we'll
be
going
to
her
second
and
then
that
way,
she
has
time
to
join
us
a
little
bit
at
later
time,
so
we'll
do
assembly,
bill,
245
and
then
we'll
move
on
to
assembly
bill
325.
C
A
Thank
you,
madam
vice
chair.
If
I
could,
if
I
could
just
ask
and
and
by
the
way
madam
vice
chair,
I
I
do
see
that
assemblywoman
kasama
has
joined
us
assembly
woman,
because
I
my
apologies,
we
took
things
slightly
out
of
order
and
we
were.
We
were
gonna.
Ask
that
you
go
first.
However,
I
think
we
just
opened
up
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
245..
A
So
if
you'd
like
to
we'll
just
go
ahead
and
have
you
go
second,
and
I
my
apologies
for
for
that
confusion,.
A
Good
morning,
madam
vice
chair
members
of
the
esteemed
committee
on
government
affairs,
I
am
assembly
medical
floors
for
the
record
and
I
am
here
to
proudly
present
assembly
bill
245.
A
I
wanted
to
very
quickly
offer
a
a
road
map
of
of
how
I
intend
for
the
conversation
to
proceed.
I'd
like
to
first
explain
the
genesis
of
this
bill
through
the
history
of
the
work
we've
done
in
this
space.
A
Afterwards,
I'd
like
to
explain
how
I
think
this
bill
addresses
some
concerns
that
we
still
have
under
nrs,
240a
and
240,
and
then
I'd
like
to
hand
over
the
presentation
to
mr
mike
draper,
who
will
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
folk
he
represents
that
he's
worked
alongside
of
and
why
he
thinks
that
this
bill
is
so
necessary.
A
You
will
notice
that
on
nellis
there
is
a
conceptual
amendment.
I
ask
that
you
please
review
that.
I
will
simultaneously
be
referring
to
the
actual
bill
language
and
the
the
the
original
excuse
me,
and
the
conceptual
amendment
and
I'll
explain
how
they
go
hand
in
hand
and
then
afterwards,
we'd
like
to
hand
over
the
presentation
to
ms
gail
anderson
from
the
nevada
secretary
of
state's
office,
who
is
in
the
neutral
position.
A
However,
she
will
go
into
how
if
this
bill
were
to
be
enacted,
how
they
would
go
about
implementing
the
conceptual
amendment
and
the
language
found
in
the
original
bill
so
way
back
in
2011
many
years
before
I
even
considered
ever
running
for
office
or
ever
thought
about
it,
and
I
would
say
when
I
was
still
very
hopeful
and
I
thought
it
could
change
the
world.
A
I
I
had
an
opportunity
to
publish
a
study
through
the
university
of
austin
texas
on
the
unauthorized
practice
of
law
and
access
to
to
legal
services
in
southern
nevada,
and
I
start
I
start
there
because
I've
been
in
this
space
and
and
having
this
conversation
for
some
time
now
and
it's
something
that
I
have
seen
both
community
members
and
family
members
impacted
directly
by,
and
so
I
I'm
very
happy
that
I
can
continue
to
work
in
this
space.
A
At
the
time.
I
I
think
anecdotally.
Anybody
who
who
who
comes
from
an
underrepresented
community
can
probably
relate
to
anecdotal
stories
of
having
family
members
or
friends
taken
advantage
of
by
folk,
pretending
to
be
lawyers
or
by
predatory
notarios,
or
that
what
we
have
now
doc
preparation
services
and
and
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
pain.
A
The
issue
is
that
in
a
lot
of
different
countries,
particularly
those
spanish-speaking
countries,
the
word
notario,
which
is
an
exact
translation
of
notary,
has
a
very
different
meaning.
In
fact,
it's
harder
to
be
a
notario,
it's
harder
to
be
a
notary
in
other
countries
than
it
is
to
be
an
attorney
because
there's
a
requirement
for
you
to
be
an
attorney
plus
x,
amount
of
years
that
you've
put
into
the
profession.
And
so
that's
where
the
confusion
starts
with
a
lot
of
the
immigrant
migrant
communities.
A
When
they
come
to
the
us,
they
bring
the
definition
that
they
know
from
different
countries,
and
in
fact
here,
as
we
all
know,
nota
republic
has
a
very
different
purpose
and
function,
and
so,
over
the
years,
I've
been
working
on
numerous
bills
to
try
to
address
those
concerns
and
really
tack
on
different
penalties
and
criminalize
some
of
this
behavior,
and
so
now
I
think
we're
in
a
place
where
we've
created
a
lot
of
different
laws
where
we've
gone
after
been
able
to
go
after
some
of
these
predatory
businesses
on
the
other
side
of
it
is
all
the
good
actors
which
is
the
majority
of
the
small
businesses
out
there.
A
You
know
I've
had
an
opportunity
to
work
closely
and
form
a
relationship
with
print
fingerprinting
express
but
there's
a
whole
host
of
other
ones,
and-
and
these
are
folks
that
are
small
business
owners
who
wake
up
every
single
morning,
you'll
see
the
owners,
work,
working
and
operating
their
own
businesses,
they're
doing
everything
right,
and
so
the
question
that
came
to
me
was
well.
How
do
we
help
them
right?
A
If,
if
we
want
to
make
sure
to
to
help
the
community
by
getting
the
predatory
businesses
out,
but
how
do
we
also
help
the
good
actors
in
the
space?
A
And
that's
where
I
had
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
mr
draper
and
he
bounced
off
some
ideas
on
what
he
he
thought
would
be
an
immediate
positive
impact
to
benefit
the
the
good
actors
in
the
space.
A
Obviously
going
after
the
bad
actors
is
important,
because
if
we
get
rid
of
the
bad
actors,
it
helps
the
good
actors
and
level
the
playing
field
where
the
good
actors
are
always
consistently
doing
everything
by
the
book.
If
you
get
rid
of
the
bad
actors,
then
you
help
the
good
actors
benefit,
but
the
also
the
other
question
is
how
much
they
could
charge.
So
that's
where
I
can
very
quickly
get
into
the
bill
itself.
A
A
But
I
just
wanted
to
very
broadly
speak
on
we're,
hoping
by
doing
this,
that
small
businesses
can
can
can
just
make
a
little
bit
more
money.
Obviously,
when
they
were
charging
five
dollars
or
two
dollars
and
fifty
cents,
they
weren't,
making
a
whole
lot
of
profit
there,
especially
in
a
world
where
they're
obligated
to
pay
more
in
a
bond
where
their
registration
fees
had
gone
up.
Where
it's
just
they're
cut.
A
On
the
flip
side,
one
of
the
things
that
we
we
talked
about
is
also
increasing
the
fee,
so
you'll
notice
in
in
in
the
actual
bill
itself
in
page
four
and
then
pay
excuse
me
they're,
both
in
page
four,
that
the
registration
fee
is
going
from
the
and
it's
an
annual
registration
fee
of
25,
going
up
to
50
for
for
those
in
the
doc,
preparation,
services,
world
and
50.
A
To
100
for
those
in
the
notary
world
and
the
justification
for
doing
this
particular
issue,
this
increase
is
that
because
we
know
they're
going
to
be
charging
more
in
three
or
four
or
five
different
signatures
that
they
do.
A
notarization
is
better
said,
they're
going
to
make
those
extra
50
bucks,
but
those
50
dollars.
A
If
you
see
the
conceptual
amendment
under
amendment
number
three
at
the
very
bottom
and
that's
uploaded
to
nellis
you'll,
see
that
we
want
to
use
that
fee
increase,
so
the
additional
fifty
dollars
under
240
and
the
additional
25
dollars
under
240a
that
money
will
be
placed
into
a
special
fund
that
can
solely
be
used
for
enforcement
of
going
after
these
predatory,
notarios
and
document
preparation
service
businesses.
Again
they
are,
they
are
the
minority
of
the
industry.
A
They
are
not
the
majority
of
the
industry,
they
are.
They
are
the
minority,
but
we
have
to
be
able
to
go
after
them
and,
unfortunately,
even
though
we've
continuously
for
the
past,
since
2013
been
putting
language
to
go
after
some
of
these
predatory
reactors,
the
reality
is,
if
you
want
teeth,
you
have
to
give
money
to
the
enforcement
side,
and
so
that
that's
what
we're
utilizing
this
money.
A
For
specifically,
we
want
to
create
an
additional
compliance
investigator
to
position
we'll
have
ms
gail
anderson
get
into
the
numbers
of
how
much
it
would
cost
to
create
that
position
and
how
we
believe
that
this
increase
will
actually
be
right
around
that
amount
that
we
need
for
that.
The
other
thing
that
we
want
to
do
that
you'll
see
under
amendment
number
two
is
we
want
to
give
the
nevada
secretary
of
state's
office
fine
authority
so
presently,
when
there
is
a
bad
actor
out
there?
A
Typically,
all
the
secretary
of
state's
office
can
do
is
really
just
try
to
if,
let's
assume,
they're
not
licensed,
if
they're
not
licensed,
there's
not
a
lot.
The
secretary
of
state's
office
can
do.
I
mean
they'll
continue
to
practice
without
the
license
if
they
are
licensed
and
they're
bad
actors
they're
doing
things
that
they're
not
supposed
to
you
really
are
forced
to
just
have
to
revoke
the
license
and
or
suspend
it,
but
the
issue
with
that
is
we
want
these
registrants
to
to
come
into
compliance.
We
want
them
to
do
things
correctly.
A
We
shouldn't
it
shouldn't
be
if
you're
out
of
compliance
you're
out
of
out
of
the
the
240
a
or
240
industry.
We
don't
want
that.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
you
can
continue
to
operate
so
through
fine
authority.
We
can
actually
give
the
nevada
secretary
of
state
a
little
bit
more
teeth
and
so
we're
adding
the
same
language
that
you
find
under
nrs240
nrs240
talks
about
notary,
publix,
nrs248
talks
about
document
preparation
services.
That's
why
you
hear
me
talking
about
both
of
them
under
nrs
240.
Now
we
do
have
a
fine
authority.
A
A
So
with
that,
if
I
could
hand
over
the
presentation
to
mr
draper,
who
will
then
get
into
a
little
bit
about
how
those
numbers
were
looked
at,
what
surrounding
states
are
doing,
and
he
could
talk
about
some
of
the
great
actors
we
have
in
the
state
in
this
in
this
space.
Mr
draper,
please.
D
You
I
think,
after
a
year
I
would
have
figured
that
out,
but
still
work
to
go
good
morning.
Madam
vice
chair
and
members
of
the
assembly
government
affairs
committee,
it's
always
great
to
be
before
this
committee.
This
is
easily
my
favorite
committee
that
I'm
testifying
in
front
of
right
now-
and
I
want
to
thank
the
chairman
for
his
thoughtful
leadership.
D
This
is
definitely
an
issue
we've
been
discussing
off
and
on
and
different
things
related
to
it
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
He's
done
a
lot
of
work,
as
he
mentioned
in
in
this
area,
an
area
that
often
gets
overlooked,
and
today
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we're
working
to
address.
D
Certainly
this
an
an
opportunity
to
support
small
business,
but
really
it's
also
an
opportunity
to
it's
a
necessity
to
offset
cost
the
cost
of
being
a
notary
in
this
state.
Is
it
just
occurred
to
me?
I'm
not
sure
I
introduced
myself
either
being
on
mute
through
me
off,
but
my
name
is
mike
draper,
I'm
a
partner
at
argentine
partners.
Last
name
is
d-r-a-p-e-r,
and
I'm
here
today,
representing
fingerprinting,
express
and
fingerprinting
express,
has
five
locations
throughout
nevada.
D
They
do
the
latest
in
fingerprint
technology
and
background
checks,
but
they
also
offer
a
number
of
other
services,
including
notorious
services,
and
really
why
we're
here
is
because,
over
the
last
many
many
years,
the
cost
of
being
a
notary
has
gone
up
substantially.
In
some
cases
for
notary
supplies,
it's
gone
up
by
four
times.
D
D
Nevada
is
easily
the
lowest
in
in
what
we
can
charge
or
one
of
the
lowest
and
what
we
can
charge
for
notorious
services
and,
as
the
costs
have
gone
up,
it's
become
substantially
important
to
offset
the
cost
of
being
a
notary
with
the
ability
for
notaries
to
charge
more
for
their
services.
So
what
we're?
D
What
we're
proposing
in
this
bill
is
a
is
a
moderate
price
increase
to
offset
the
costs
it's
comparative
and
relative
to
the
surrounding
states,
and
many
other
states
in
the
country,
for
instance,
arizona,
california,
utah,
idaho,
all
allow
for
their
notaries
to
charge
more
than
what
we
our
notaries
currently
can
charge.
These
prices
weren't
picked
at
random.
D
They
were
picked
to
be
competitive
with
with
sort
of
the
national
averages,
but
also
as
as
the
chairman
mentioned,
to
add,
an
enforcement
component
support
the
secretary
of
state's
office,
who
also
ms
anderson,
has
spent
quite
a
bit
of
time,
working
with
the
chairman,
also
on
issues
related
to
this
over
the
last
many
years,
and
I
I
know
that
giving
the
secretary
of
state's
office
more
tools
in
order
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
right
people
doing
the
right
things
to
protect
nevadans,
but
also
supporting
about
a
small
businesses
has
been
very
important
to
them
as
well.
D
I'll
be
brief,
the
chairman
already
went
through
the
bill,
so
there's
really
no
no
need
for
me
to
go
through
it
again.
Certainly
I
can
answer
questions.
I've
also
asked
our
notary,
or
one
of
our
notaries
from
our
gentile
partners,
robert
masterson,
to
join
in
case
there's
any
questions
that
are
far
above
my
pay
grade
about
what
it
takes
to
be
a
notary
or
anything
along
those
lines.
A
E
E
E
I
oversee
the
document
preparation
services
program
section
for
the
secretary
of
state.
That
section
currently
consists
of
two
staff,
one
administrative
assistant
who
handles
all
of
the
registration
processing
and
which
includes
bond
annual
bond
monitoring,
as
well
as
other
administrative
duties
for
the
program
and
then
also
one
compliance
investigator
two
who
handles
a
caseload
that
ranges
between
180
at
the
higher
end
to
maybe
145
at
the
lower
end
at
any
given
time,
investigations
and
examinations.
E
E
We
currently
have
1463
active
registrants
during
this
current
fiscal
year.
Through
the
month
of
march,
we
have
processed
722
registrants,
new
registrants
with
another
114
in
under
review
status,
which
means
we're
waiting
for
their
background
investigation
report
and
42
additional
that
we
are
awaiting
bond.
E
E
We
have
had
referrals
from
the
consumer
affairs
division
at
business
and
industry
and
then,
of
course,
direct
complaints
and
sometimes
complaints
filed
by
a
another
registrant,
perhaps
with
another
business
entity.
These
areas
that
we
predominantly
see
are
in
unregistered
activity.
People
who
are
not
registered
that
should
be
registered
advertising
issues
about
what
they're
advertising
that
they're
going
to
do,
and
usually
along
with
that
that
advertising
and
their
actual
practices
of
their
business
suggest.
E
E
But
there
is
no
fine
remedy
or
authority
outside
of
a
criminal
proceeding
that
would
be
handled
by
the
district
attorney
or
the
attorney
general's
office
or
a
civil
proceeding
in
court,
which
of
course,
is
a
very
extreme
measure,
with
a
lot
of
resources
necessary
to
even
get
those
cases
taken
up
by
either
the
district
attorney
or
the
attorney
general.
They
have
to
be
pretty
high
level
dollar
harm
amounts.
E
E
We
follow
the
proceedings,
administrative
proceedings
of
233b
in
terms
of
of
notification,
of
what
we're
looking
at
what
needs
to
be
remedied,
but
sometimes
they
don't
respond
at
all
and
we
send
a
follow-up
and
sometimes
many
weeks
and
months
pass,
and
we
would
like
the
ability
to
get
their
attention
and
to
have
them
address
things
that
wouldn't
necessitate
a
fine.
We
just
want
them
to
do
it
right.
E
Fine
authority
is
also
requested
for
the
very
important
area
of
unregistered
activity.
This
program
inception
in
2014
since
then
the
or
at
the
very
beginning
the
emphasis
was
on
just
bringing
people
into
compliance,
get
get
registered.
E
We
now
find,
however,
people
who
have
registered
they.
Let
their
registrations
lapse.
They
continue
conducting
business,
they
know
better.
We
find
people
that
we
have
notified
by
a
cease
and
desist
that
they
need
to
be
registered
and
they
continue
their
practices.
E
E
The
last
thing
I
would
like
to
mention
is
assemblyman
flores
presents
in
sections
two
and
three
of
the
original
bill
enhancement
or
the
fee
increase
to
provide
funding
to
enhance
enforcement
of
nrs240a
document
preparation
services.
E
The
particular
way
to
address
this
is
with
an
additional
investigator
with
one
investigator
statewide.
That's
a
huge
challenge.
We
travel
north,
we
didn't
last
year
during
covid.
We
look
forward
to
resuming
that
as
well
as
southern
nevada,
and
we
really
need
to
make
a
trip.
It
looks
like
in
tonight
county
into
the
pahrump
area
to
take
a
look
at
some
practices
going
on
there.
E
We
drive
to
locations
locally
and
in
northern
nevada
that
we
believe
have
under
regis
unregistered
activity
to
gather
information
for
our
cease
and
desist
or
for
the
action
we're
going
to
take.
So
our
office
is
going
to
submit
a
fiscal
note
for
a
compliance
investigator
to
position.
E
That
would
correspond
with
the
intent
of
this
bill
to
enhance
enforcement,
and
just
in
mention
of
that,
our
current
registration
fees
have
ranged
around
65
500
the
last
couple
of
fiscal
years
and
so
to
double
that
would
bring
in
that
much
at
least
again
as
we
enhance
enforcement
and
get
more
people
registered.
E
Those
registration
fees,
of
course,
will
be
enhanced
as
well,
and
an
additional
compliance
investigator
to
position
at
a
step.
One
is
very
close
to
that
amount.
It's
a
little
closer
to
66
000
a
year,
just
the
salary
and
benefits
portion,
and
so
that
is
what
we
were
targeting
in
looking
at,
because
the
way
to
enhance
enforcement
is
for
another
investigator
to
help
us
be
able
to
handle
more
and
more
quickly.
So
those
are
my
prepared
comments,
of
course,
I'm
available
for
questions.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Assemblymedical
floors
for
the
record.
Thank
you,
madam
vice
chair.
I
think
that
summarizes
the
intent
of
the
bill.
I
I
will
just
echo
and
I'm
glad
miss
anderson
made
the
mention
that
the
the
nevada
bar
and
just
the
attorneys
often
don't,
engage
in
this
space
because
they
don't
believe
they
have
the
teeth
to
go
after
folk
that
are
pretending
to
be
lawyers
and
that
they
are
not
attorneys
themselves.
A
I
will
say,
however,
as
we've
heard
the
federal
administration
talking
about
potential
immigration
reform
this
and
that
we've
already
started
to
see
a
bunch
of
advertisement
out
in
the
community
talking
about
come
in
and
will
start
prepping
your
paperwork
so
that
if
there's
ever
immigration
reform,
you
can
be
first
in
line
there
isn't
even
any
paperwork
to
be
provided
that
doesn't
exist.
Yet
there's
no
real
guidance
from
the
federal
government.
A
Not
no
law
has
been
passed
yet
so
we're
already
seeing
this
problem
and
why
enforcement's
so
important-
and
I
will
also
say
just
to
call
out
that
we
also
have
some
garbage
attorneys
out
there,
who
are
putting
some
advertisements
out
and
I've
heard
it
on
the
radio
and
and
we
have
to
go
after
them
too.
A
I
think
the
attorney
the
legal
community
has
a
responsibility
to
go
after
that
garbage,
but
here
I
think
the
the
the
focus
is
on
on
getting
rid
of
some
of
the
and
enforcing
some
of
the
issues
we
have
with
some
of
the
limited
bad
actors
and
that
we
empower
the
good
ones
and
let
them
make
some
money.
Thank
you,
madam
vice
chair,.
C
Thank
you
to
every
testimony.
Are
there
any
questions
for
the
committee?
I
do
see
assembly
member
ellison
has
a
question
so
I'll
go
to
him
first,
but
if
you
have
any
other
questions,
please
put
it
in
the
chat.
B
Thank
you,
madam
I'm
glad
you
let
me
come
in
there
because
I
will
have
to
be
signing
off
when
this
call
comes
in.
One
of
the
things
is
that
on
these
fees
increases,
I
didn't
think
it
was
ever
to
make
money.
It
was
a
service
to
bring
people
in
to
where
they
could
actually
help
the
people
and
cover
their
costs.
I
didn't
know
it
was
a
money-making
operation,
because
I
mean
the
banks
used
to
do
it
for
free
now,
none
of
them
do
it.
B
So
that
was
one
of
the
questions
and
and
when
you
go
in
the
bathrooms
you
you
can
see
where
they
write
on
the
wall.
They'll
do
it
for
for
a
dollar
but
they're
not
licensed
either
so
anyway.
If
you
could
answer
that,
sir
and
I
do
like
the
bill,
I
I
think
it's
it's.
The
only
thing
that
is
the
fees
is.
What
scares
me
if
you
could
answer
that?
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
assemblyman,
madam
vice
chair,
through
you
to
assemblyman
ellison
assembly
necrophorus
for
the
record
so
yeah
I
mean
there
is
a
lot
of
small
businesses
that
that
do
this
and
and
make
a
livelihood
out
of
this,
I
will
say
that
most
of
the
small
businesses
that
are
in
this
space
do
this
plus.
A
You
will
hear
about
some
mobile
notaries,
who
sometimes
go
to
location
a
b
c
and
d,
and
and
they
they
make
that
their
main
focus
of
their
business,
but
for
the
most
part,
folks
that
are
in
this
space
do
this,
amongst
other
things,
and
and
the
idea
is
absolutely
for
them
to
be
able
to
cover
their
cost
charging
seven
dollars
and
fifty
cents
or
fifteen
dollars,
they're
not
making
a
whole
lot
of
money
there,
and
so
what
we're
saying
is
they
already
have
to
pay
more
for
a
bond?
A
They
already
have
to
pay
more
for
the
stamp
they
already
have
to
pay
more
for
for
just
the
everyday
operation
of
this
business
model,
but
we
haven't
given
them
an
opportunity
to
charge
just
a
little
bit
more
and
again.
A
Fifty
7.50
or
fifteen
dollars
doesn't
seem
like
they're,
going
to
be
making
a
whole
lot
of
money.
Honestly,
I
do
believe
that
they
deserve
to
be
able
to
profit
and
make
some
money
to
be
able
to
run
a
successful
business
and,
and
I'm
hoping
that,
with
them
being
able
to
charge
more
we're,
also
going
to
encourage
more
people
to
come
into
the
space
and
and
have
it
more
readily
available,
because
people
say
well
now
I
can
make
a
little
bit
more
money.
Maybe
it
makes
sense,
it
was
almost
a
money
losing
operation.
A
So,
mr
allison,
I
I
do
think
that
that
it's
important
that
we
give
them
an
opportunity
to
make
some
money
there.
D
Chair,
if,
if,
if
I
may
add
on
to
that,
madam
vice
chair,
threw
you
to
lyndon
allison.
D
Mike
draper
for
the
record,
assimilant
ellison,
also
it's
important
to
remember
that
this
isn't
mandating
that
these
rates
be
charged.
This
is
allowing
someone
the
ability
to
charge
that,
but
but
there
will
be
businesses
that
will
continue
to
offer
some
of
these
services
for
free
and
really
the
other
thing
to
take
into
account
is
sometimes
the
time
that
goes
into
to
this.
So
not
only
talking
about
the
cost
of
supplies
and
the
bonding
and
and
the
licensure
and
things
like
that.
D
But
we're
also
talking
about
I
know
in
our
office
we
have
two
notaries
and
sometimes
that
process
depending
on
what
documents
and
what
things
are
going
through
can
take
30
minutes
or
so
so,
when
you're,
a
small
business
and
you're
a
mom-and-pop
organization,
sometimes
that
that
that
time
should
have
a
value
to
it.
So
again,
we're
not
talking
about
a
significant
profit
margin,
but
we
are
talking
the
ability
to
cover
your
costs
in
your
time,
and
especially
for
for
as
more
and
more
services
are
going
mobile.
B
And
I
I
appreciate
that
and
for
a
follow-up,
madam
chair
vice
chair,
don't
they
charge
an
extra
service
to
go
mobile
for,
say
somebody,
that's
a
senior
that
can't
get
out
or
whatever
and
they
need
to
get
a
notary,
don't
they
they
actually
charge
for
more
to
do
that
service.
A
Hi,
thank
you
assemblyman
for
that
question,
some
of
the
microphones
for
the
record
yeah.
They
they
can.
If,
if
you
read
a
little
bit
further
down
on
page
two
of
the
actual
bill,
now
you'll
see
some
of
that
where
they
can
charge
additional
fees
if
they're
working
between
the
hours
of
six
a.m
and
7
pm
for
travel.
A
If
you
see
if,
if
they're
having
to
travel
x
amount
of
distance,
they
they
can
charge
additional
for
that
as
well.
B
B
C
C
F
F
H
Hi
good
morning,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
time.
Chairman
vice
chair,
madame
vice
chair
and
assembly
members,
my
name
is
monica
pappas
p-a-p-p-a-s.
H
I
am
owner
of
fingerprinting
express
with
stores
in
carson
city
reno
and
las
vegas.
I
am
a
nevada
notary
public
since
2012
and
I
also
employ
20
nevada,
notary
publics,
95
of
which
are
females
and
minorities.
The
important
thing
to
note
here
is
that
the
notary
public
designation
is
with
the
person
it's
a
portable
skill.
It
does
not
stay
with
the
company.
H
H
We
have
so
much
liability
that
it's
also
important
that
we
are
good
at
what
we
do
and
if
someone
can
do
this
as
a
main
business
and
not
a
side
job,
we
are
going
to
serve
nevadans
at
a
higher
level
being
experts
at
the
documentation
having
a
rejection
can
delay
things
for
people
and
that's
the
last
thing
that
we
want
to
have
happen.
The
fees
have
increased
significantly
when
I
started
being
a
notary
public
in
2012.
My
notary
journal
was
12
today.
My
notary
journal
is
forty
four
dollars,
so
it's
hardly
a
super
lucrative
business.
H
So
I
really
just
wanted
to
stress
to
the
committee
today
that
it
is
mainly
for
independent
contractors
and
entrepreneurs
to
create
their
own
business
without
having
a
formal
education.
All
they
have
to
do
is
complete
the
classes
through
the
nevada
state
secretary
and
then
get
their
bonds
and
get
started.
So
it's
really
a
great
opportunity
for
people
to
start
their
own
business.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
your
time
today.
F
I
I
Go
ahead,
hi,
my
name
is
tayden
carlo.
My
last
name
is
spelt
p-a-r-t-l-o-w,
first
name
t-a-I-d-n
and
I'm
actually,
you
know
notary
public
in
las
vegas
myself.
I
work
independently
well
under
a
under
my
llc,
totally
mobile
notary,
and
so
my
main
function
is
as
a
mobile
notary.
I
I've
been
a
notary
since
about
late
2019
after
I
moved
to
las
vegas
when
I
founded
my
full-time
job,
didn't
necessarily
cover
all
my
expenses,
so
I
started
working
after
hours
and
on
my
days
off
to
provide
this
service,
and
although
it's
definitely
you
know,
supplemented
my
income,
it's
not
something
that
I
could
do
full-time
without
also
having
a
full-time
job,
and
since
2020
I've
actually
received
a
increase
in
requests.
I
Out
of
you
know
our
our
world
and
everything,
and
so
it's
it's.
I've
actually
felt
more
like
a
front
line
worker
and
going
sometimes
driving
an
hour
and
a
half.
You
know.
Of
course,
we
can
only
charge
20
dollars
so
driving
an
hour
and
a
half
during
rush
hour
to
go
for
one
signature
and
get
25.
I
I've
done
it
because
it's
a
part
of
my
duty
as
a
notary
public,
but
it
definitely
doesn't
always
feel
worth
it
and
it,
it's
kind
of
you
know,
become
counterproductive,
since
I'm
also
putting
myself
and
my
family
at
risk
going
into
people's
homes
and
not
necessarily
having
all
the
coverage
that
I
could
have
seen
after
how
it's
an
independent
job,
there's
no
health
care
coverage
or
anything
like
that
for
it
outside
of
my
full-time
job.
So
I
am
for
this
bill.
I
I
think
it
would
be
great
incentives
for
people
to
be
notaries,
and
but
I
also
think
that
it's
definitely
necessary
for
us
to
be
able
to
cover
all
of
our
costs
of
travel.
Cost
of
you
know
living
and
just
be
able
to
supplement
our
income
more
and
make
it
more
worthwhile.
A
Yes,
thank
you
madame
vice
chair
assembly,
medical
first
for
the
record,
I
I
know
that
assemblywoman
thomas
has
requested
to
be
added
as
a
co-sponsor
and
absolutely
I
will
be
doing
that
if
anybody
else
is
interested
just
reach
out
and
we'll
get
that
taken
care
of.
I
wanted
to
thank
you
all
for
your
time
the
indulgence
this
morning
and
I
hope
that
we're
gonna
very
much
empower
some
small
businesses
and
be
able
to
go
after
some
of
you,
bad
actors.
Thank
you.
Assemblywoman.
C
Thank
you
chairman.
I
know
that
someone
constantine
is
interested
in
co-sponsoring
the
legislation
as
well,
so
hopefully
they
can
reach
out
to
you
after
this
hearing,
so
that
they
can
make
that
happen.
I
will
now
close
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
245
and
I'll
pass.
The
virtual
gavrill
gavel
back
over
to
chair
flores.
A
Thank
you,
madam
vice
chair
and
at
this
time,
and
I
thank
you
again
to
ms
gail
anderson
and
mr
draper
and
fingerprinting
express
at
this
time.
I
see
that
we
have
assemblywoman
casama
joining
us
again.
Sorry
for
the
confusion.
Earlier
today,
assemblywoman
we've
been
trying
to
make
it
work
for
everybody,
but
thank
you
for
joining
us.
So
at
this
time,
I'd
like
to
open
up
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
325
whenever
you're
ready,
assemblywoman.
G
Thank
you,
chair
flores,
and
thank
you
to
the
members
of
the
government
affairs
committee
for
allowing
me
to
present
this
morning
for
the
record.
I
am
assemblywoman
heidi
kasam
and
I
am
here
to
prevent
to
present
assembly
bill
325,
so
this
bill
has
to
do
with
the
recording
of
documents
so
currently
in
statute.
We
do
allow
for
the
recording
of
electronically
filed
documents.
G
However,
this
would
give
the
ability,
if
needed,
for
the
documents
that
have
been
signed
electronically,
to
be
printed
out
to
a
paper
copy,
attach
an
example
of
the
prescribed
certificate
certifying
that
the
attached
paper
copy
is
true
and
correct
for
the
recorder's
office
to
accept.
I
want
to
also
point
out
analysis.
We
have
two
amendments
for
you
to
read
and
this
is
to
help
with
a
little
cleanup
for
the
title,
industry
and
recording,
and
so
with
that
I
have
two
presenters
here
as
well.
G
J
Thank
you
assemblywoman
kasama,
mr
chairman
and
members
of
the
committee
good
morning,
rocky
fincath,
r-o-c-k-y.
J
F-I-N-S-E-T-H
with
carrera
nevada
pleasure
to
be
with
all
of
you
today,
mr
chairman,
I'm
just
going
to
walk
you
through
the
two
components
of
the
bill,
and
then
I
will
turn
the
turn
the
rest
of
the
speaking
time
over
to
miss
silvia
smith,
turk
from
the
nevada
land,
title
association.
J
Who
will
walk
you
through?
Why
we
need
why
the
industry
is
bringing
the
bill
forward
today,
as
the
assembly
woman
mentioned,
it's
a
it's
a
fairly
straightforward
bill,
section,
one
simply
authorizes
the
submission
of
the
paper
documentation
to
a
county,
recorder's
office
and
section
two
of
the
bill
simply
prescribes
what
that
form
should
look
like.
J
As
the
assembly
woman
has
also
mentioned,
the
association
has
submitted
a
conceptual
amendment
that
should
be
up
on
nellis
and
that
would
simply
change
the
effective
date
for
the
legislation
to
july
1st
2020..
C
K
K
K
Utilizing
this
important
legislation,
one
of
the
things
that
we
realized
after
the
initial
bill
and
regulations
were
written,
was
that
we
did
not
have
a
provision
called
papering
out
what
that
means.
It's
papering
out
of
an
electronically
signed
and
notarized
document
being
able
to
print
that
document
and
certify
that
that
electronic
document
has
been
unchanged
and
is
now
going
to
be
used
in
a
paper
format,
and
the
bill
also
provides
provisions
allowing
the
county
reporters
to
the
authority
to
record
that
papered
out
electronic
originally
electronically
signed
document.
K
What
is
papering
out
generally?
It's
a
three-step
process.
It's
like
I
explained
when
a
document
in
its
true
electronic
format
has
gone
through
the
process
of
being
signed
when
approved
by
obviously
the
person
signing.
There
is
a
true
electronic
notary
who
has
gone
through
nevada's
requirements
to
become
an
electronic
notary
in
nevada.
It
then
allows
us
to
be
able
to
another
notary
to
be
able
to
review
that
document
in
its
electronic
format,
print
it
out
and
then
attach
a
certification
that
certifies.
That
is
a
true
and
accurate,
unchanged
copy.
K
The
paper
out
document
then
could
be
submitted
for
recording
the
certification
is
basically
the
confirmation,
like.
I
said
that
certain
characteristics
of
the
document
have
not
been
changed
or
altered.
Why
is
it
necessary?
It
provides
a
tool
for
our
industry,
in
particular
to
be
able
to
record
a
document.
K
Like
we
used
to
do
back
in
back
in
the
day-
and
we
realized
that
without
this
paper
out
provision,
if
we
would
have
had
a
transaction
that
had
been
electronically
signed,
we
had
no
mechanism
to
paper
that
document
out
and
serve
that
consumer
by
being
able
to
go
and
record
it.
It's
also
necessary
from
time
to
time
that
should
one
party
involved
in
in
our
case
a
real
estate
transaction,
not
be
able
to
counter
sign
the
document
electronically,
either
because
they
don't
have
the
ability
to
have
the
technology
or
they're
just
not
comfortable
doing
it.
K
A
G
No,
those
are
the
only
presenters
and
again
we
appreciate
the
committee
hearing
us.
I.
I
know
that
this
I
believe
this.
The
same
situation
came
up
in
texas,
where,
where
it
started
with,
where
kind
of
these
these
loopholes
are
or
the
rare
times
where
we
need
to
have
this
fixed.
So
this
is
kind
of
a
cleanup
fix
up
for
when
we
need
those
occasions
to
paper
out
the
electronically
signed
documents,
and
so
I
appreciate
everybody's
hearing
it
and
I
urge
you
all
to
pass
ab325
which
will
help
all
of
our.
A
Thank
you
assemblywoman.
So
at
this
time
we'll
go
to
questions
and
I'm
now
looking
through
the
chat
to
see
if
there's
anybody
there
wishing
to.
A
Members,
I
don't
see
any
questions
on
the
chat.
Have
I
missed
anybody
on
accident.
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation.
As
I'm
louis
and
I
I
appreciate
it,
I'm
just
wondering
if
I
can
get
some
clarification
as
to
the
amendment,
so
I'm
looking
at
the
language
for
the
amendment.
So
are
we
removing
like
the
entirety
of
section
2
as
it
is
and
then
replacing
it
with
the
language
for
where
it
says,
nrs,
240.199
and
then
just
adding
that
language
completely
and
then
striking
section
three
or
are
we
keeping
the
other
remaining
language?
In
section?
Two?
That's
not
stricken.
J
Thanks
assemblywoman
men
invite.
J
I
apologize
for
that
thanks,
assemblywoman
kasama
thanks
this,
madam
vice
chair.
I
believe
somebody
from
the
secretary
of
state's
office
is,
is
available
and
will
be
addressing
that
amendment.
So
if
you
don't
mind
prefer
to
leave
that
leave
a
response
to
your
question
to
the
secretary
of
state's
office
representative.
C
And
then
a
quick
follow-up
of
me
as
chair,
I
apologize
thank
you
and
so
then,
just
to
be
clear.
Then
work
someone
you're
presenting
the
bill
without
the
amendment
from
the
secretary
of
state's
office
and
then
this.
This
is
an
amendment
that
currently
is
not
friendly.
Just
so
I
understand
so.
G
G
And
I
believe,
do
we
have
the
secretary
of
state's
office
on
here.
L
Good
morning
yes,
hi,
I'm
kim
parondi,
deputy
secretary
of
state
for
commercial
recordings
and
good
morning
to
all
the
committee
members
and
chair
flores.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
this.
L
As
I
have
mentioned,
this
is
a
friendly
amendment.
We
we
met
together
and
worked
this
out
just
to
explain
kind
of
what
we're
what
we're
proposing
here.
L
What
we're
asking
for
in
this
amendment
is
to
isolate
the
papering
out
process
in
chapter
240
to
the
specific
section
pertaining
to
electronic
notarization
and
electronic
documents.
Our
concern
was
just
that
we
felt
by
placing
it
in
its
own
section
or
in
the
general
section
of
240
there.
There
may
be
confusion
with
notaries
who
are
not
e-notaries
and
might
feel
that
you
know
anytime,
they
print
out
a
document
from
an
electronic
form,
not
an
electronically
notarized
document.
L
They
might
be
confused
and
think
that
they
have
to
attach
this
certification.
So
we
know
that
17
other
states
are
doing
this
and
the
language
that
we've
offered
here
is
very
similar.
The
short
form
is
very
much
like
the
other
states
do,
and
so
we
are
very
much
in
support.
The
the
the
changes
here
are
just
changing
it
from
a
general
section
in
240
to
the
240
199,
which
is
specific
to
electronic
notarization.
A
I
don't
believe
I
see
any
other
questions,
but
members.
If
I
missed
you,
if
you
could
please
unmute
yourself
at
this
time,
seeing
none.
Thank
you.
Assemblywoman
kasama
at
this
time,
we'll
invite
those
wishing
to
testify
in
support
of
assembly
bill
325
that
we
could
please
go
to
the
phone
line
broadcast.
Please.
F
F
C
Tiffany
banks,
t-I-f-s-a-n-y
b-a-n-k-s,
chairman
flores
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
tiffany
banks
and
I'm
general
counsel
for
the
nevada
realtors.
The
realtors
appreciate
assemblywoman
kasama
bringing
ab325
forward
and
are
in
full
support
of
the
bill.
It
is
so
important
that
closings
happen
on
time
and
that
the
property
is
able
to
record
and
not
be
delayed
from
a
technical
glitch.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
express
our
support.
A
A
G
I
think,
as
you
can
see,
you
know,
it's
just
really
kind
of
a
straightforward
cleanup
bill
urge
you
to
pass
it.
It
just
helps
with
the
recording
of
documents
and
thank
you
again
to
the
chair
and
the
committee
for
your
time
this
morning.
A
Thank
you
assemblywoman
at
this
time,
we'll
go
ahead
and
close
out
the
hearing
on
assembly
325
and
before
we
open
up
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
365.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we've
given
them
ample
time
to
log
in
I
don't
believe
they
have.
A
M
A
M
M
As
I'm
sure
you
know,
a
number
of
federal
laws
have
been
enacted
to
protect
rights
of
workers
and
those
seeking
employment.
The
first
landmark
legislation,
the
civil
rights
act
of
1964-
was
followed
by
other
statutes,
including
the
age
discrimination,
an
employment
act,
the
americans
with
disabilities
act,
the
equal
pay
act
uniformed
services,
employment
and
re-employment
rights
act
and
several
others.
M
Subsequently,
the
state
has
adopted
policies
and
practices
to
ensure
fair,
hiring
and
employment
practices
that
meet
these
federal
and
state
standards,
including
investigations
of
complaints
related
to
such
matters.
However,
despite
the
state's
proactive
policies
regarding
discrimination
in
the
workplace,
gaps
remain
in
our
ability
to
gauge
the
effectiveness
of
these
efforts
in
retaining
a
diverse
workforce.
Currently,
there
is
no
process
for
tracking
or
validating
complaints
associated
with
office
related
culture
that
may
be
toxic
or
inhospitable
to
employees,
particularly
related
to
those
with
diverse
backgrounds.
M
Without
this
data,
there
is
no
way
to
track
non-federally,
protected
complaints
or
allegation
or
allegations
to
determine
if
a
systemic
problem
exists
or
assess
how
to
fix
it.
Additionally,
there
is
a
currently
no
established
standard
for
training
require
regarding
diverse
employment
retention
and
implicit
bias.
Our
state
has
incredible
diversity,
as
is
reflected
in
this
body.
I
often
wonder
why
some
state
divisions
continue
to
lack
the
diversity
reflective
of
the
state's
population.
M
We
adopted
hiring
practices
that
are
intended
to
increase
diversity
in
applicants
to
state
positions.
However,
we
often
continue
to
miss
the
mark,
as
it
relates
to
retention
of
employees
with
diverse
backgrounds.
It
has
been
the
policy
of
the
state
to
direct
non-federally,
protected
complaints
to
the
individual
divisions,
human
resources
or
management
to
handle,
and
there
has
been
no
formal
review
of
this
process
or
the
complaints
and
best
practices
policies
implemented
as
a
result
of
those
complaints.
M
In
the
last
year,
our
country
has
been
reflecting
on
disparities
among
people
of
color
and
their
white
counterparts.
We've
continued
to
see
elevated
disparities
between
women
and
men
in
the
workplace,
exacerbated
by
the
conditions
of
the
pandemic,
and
also
reflective
of
the
different
needs
of
women
in
the
workforce.
M
Our
state
workforce
has
a
history
of
being
a
place
where
people
love
to
work
and
retention
was
among
the
highest
of
any
employment
field.
However,
we
are
hearing
from
department
after
department
that
retention
at
the
state
is
one
of
the
biggest
challenges
our
agencies
are
dealing
with
again.
This
got
me
to
wonder
why
I
additionally
reflect
on
my
own
challenges
in
the
traditional
work
environment.
M
I
went
to
meetings
and
dinners
and
met
deadlines
when
my
body
and
baby
wanted
to
be
home.
Don't
get
me
wrong.
I
had
immense
amounts
of
support
from
my
boss
and
clients,
and
even
employees
of
this
state
who
offered
accommodations
multiple
times,
but
it
was
an
immense
amount
of
effort
to
maintain
normalcy
in
my
job
and
for
my
growing
family.
M
Not
everyone
gets
this
level
of
support.
It
is
not
mandatory,
whether
it's
parents
who
need
to
pick
up
their
kids
or
want
to
attend
a
midday
matinee
of
their
child's
pageant
performance,
whether
it's
someone
trying
a
new
hairstyle
or
dealing
with
undiagnosed
health
conditions
that
get
unsolicited
questions
and
comments.
These
are
unproduct
unprotected
scenarios
that
can
result
in
passive
aggressive
comments,
actions
and
attitudes.
Leaving
the
employee
wondering
why
they
want
to
work
in
such
an
environment
at
all.
M
There
are
also
issues
of
microaggressions
microaggressions
to
simplifier
defined
as
a
statement,
action
or
incident
regarded
as
an
instant
of
indirect,
subtle
or
unintentional
discrimination
against
members
of
a
marginalized
group,
such
as
a
racial
or
ethnic
minority.
These
are
sometimes
subtle
and
often
not
recognizable.
To
someone
who
lacks
experience
in
identifying
racial
discrimination
assembly
bill
365
declares
that
it
is
a
public
policy
of
this
state
that
persons
employed
by
the
state
be
afforded
respect,
dignity
and
equity
in
the
workplace.
M
The
bill
also
requires
the
administrator
of
the
division
of
human
resource
management,
to
evaluate
the
effectiveness
of
any
policy
of
the
division
intended
to
encourage
equity
in
the
workforce.
For
persons
of
color
and
other
persons
of
marginalized
identities
and
prepare
and
submit
a
report
to
the
governor
and
the
legislature
concerning
the
evaluation.
M
Additionally,
this
bill
defines
marginalized
identity
to
mean
an
identity
that
causes
or
has
historically
caused
a
person
of
such
an
identity
to
be
disproportionately
subject
to
discrimination,
harassment
or
other
negative
treatment
as
a
result
of
the
identity.
Finally,
assembly
bill
365
requires
the
personnel
commission
to
adopt
regulations
for
training
of
supervisors
and
managerial
employees
concerning
implicit
bias.
M
I
want
to
remind
the
body
that,
just
this
summer,
we
declared
racism
as
a
public
health
crisis
and
have
self-reflective
work
to
do
to
ensure
we
are
setting
standards
in
the
state
to
be
as
anti-racist
as
possible.
This
bill
is
a
small
step
in
getting
much
needed
data
to
meet
this
goal,
as
well
as
the
goal
of
retaining
a
high
quality,
diverse
workforce
that
feels
supported
and
appreciated
for
the
hard
work
they
do
to
take
care
of
the
state
chair.
I
am
open
for
questions.
A
A
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
bringing
this
forward.
Assemblymember
peters,
it's
a
very
great,
it's
a
very
strong
bill.
My
question
has
to
do
with
section
of
five
2a
the
requirements
for
the
training
of
supervisors
and
managerial
employees
concerning
implicit
biases.
Would
that
be
done
in
a
yearly
basis,
or
would
that
be
a
one-time
shot
as
soon
as
they
become
managers?
C
M
Let
me
unmute
myself,
first
assemblywoman
peters,
for
the
record.
Thanks
for
the
question.
This
is
an
area
that
I
think
as
a
country,
we
are
really
analyzing.
What
is
the
importance
of
training
efforts
and
what
is
effective
so
right
now,
there's
not
a
great
road
map
to
effective
implicit
bias
training,
but
it
exists.
We
at
the
university
of
nevada,
reno,
have
a
training
program
for
hiring
practices
and
recognizing
implicit
bias
in
the
hiring
practices,
and
there
are
a
number
of
other.
M
I
think,
professionals
in
the
state
of
nevada
who
are
really
working
on
this
particular
issue,
especially
in
the
light
of
what
we've
been
talking
about
kind
of
nationally
this
year
around
racism
and
the
need
for
for
a
solid
education
of
our
communities
on
what
that
looks
like
and
how
to
overcome
that.
M
So
my
intention
here
is
for
it
to
be
kind
of
a
working
document
that
it
be
addressed
as
the
needs
arise
that
these
assessments
of
the
complaints
as
they
come
in
help
us
identify
where
we
really
need
to
work
on
what
management
is
educated
in
and
how
they
promulgate
effective
policy
and
regulation.
A
I
don't
believe
we
have
any
at
this
time.
I'd
like
to
go
into.
M
I
know
I
do
thank
you
for
the
question
and
I
think
that
I'm
sorry
assemblywoman
peter's
for
the
record.
I
think
that's
an
important
piece
of
this.
There
is
no
intended
enforcement
piece
here
or
consequence
piece
here
aside
from
helping
to
direct
people's
implicit
bias,
which
oftentimes
we
don't
recognize
in
ourselves
right
because
it's
a
product
of
where
we
came
from
how
we
were
raised,
the
communities
that
were
a
part
of
the
you
know
even
like
how
we
were
educated.
M
M
You
know
I
can't
walk
down
the
hallway
without
someone
reaching
out
to
touch
my
hair,
that's
uncomfortable,
but
I
think
that
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
wouldn't
see
that
as
being
aggressive,
but
just
don't
know,
don't
know
what
the
person's
experience
is
in.
Why
that
feels
uncomfortable
and
creates
a
toxic
culture
and
workplace
for
them.
C
M
And
I
think
maybe
the
touching
a
hair
is
not
a
great
example,
because
that
really
is
an
autonomy
and
consent
based
issue
that
I
don't,
I
think,
if
you
want
to
reach
out
and
touch
someone's
hair,
you
can
ask
for
permission
to
and
that
person
can
give
you
permission
to
right.
M
Now,
there's
no
set
standard
for
that,
and
no
ability
for
us
to
assess
whether
that's
a
cultural
issue
or
not,
but
I
I
do
see
where
you're
coming
from
and
that
we
don't
want
to
over
shoot
the
mark
right
and
make
everybody
like
walk
on
eggshells,
which
is,
I
think
the
training
component
is
particularly
important,
and
the
aggregation
of
the
complaints
is
particularly
important,
because
then
we
can
look
at
kind
of
the
whole
of
a
culture.
Where
are
we
seeing
consistent
trends
and
issues
related
to
toxic
work
culture?
M
Where
can
we
direct
managerial
training
to
address
those
issues
right,
even
if
it's
mediation
right
between
the
two
parties
in
which
are
included
in
that
non-federally
protected
complaint?
Those
kinds
of
things
are
areas
that
we
could
work
on
and
not
just
here,
but
I
think
every
everywhere
can
work
on
that.
Right,
that's
just
a
part
of
having
successful
relationships
with
people
being
able
to
meet
people
where
they
at
their.
They
are
at
and
identify
places
where
we
could
be
more
competent
and
consistent
in
our
treatment
of
people
as
a
whole.
M
B
Thank
you
chair.
Thank
you,
stunning,
woman,
peters,
for
the
presentation.
My
question
was
just
kind
of
with
maybe
the
genesis
of
this
I
was
just
wondering
if
there
were
particular
agencies
that
you've
identified,
statistically
or
even
anecdotally,
that
have
been.
You
know
problematic
in
this
regard.
That
kind
of
you
know
inspired
this
need,
or
this
is
more,
I
just
leave
it
at
that
yeah
whether
there
are
certain
agencies
that
you
think
this
really
is
needed
for.
Thank
you.
M
Thank
you,
assemblywoman
peters,
for
the
record,
so
I
I
work
with
some
agencies
in
my
day
job
I
also
growing
up
in
this
area,
have
a
number
of
friends
who've
gone
in
and
out
of
state
government
and
and
then
there
are
articles
that
are
published
in
the
news,
and
I
kept
seeing
this
consistent
trend
of
like
the
people
who
were
complaining,
the
people
who
were
being
targeted,
the
people
who
were
were
uncomfortable
in
our
work
environment,
predominantly
being
women
or
people
of
color
women
of
color,
and
I
got
to
questioning
you
know
what's
going
on.
M
Why
are
we
having
these
consistent,
like
trends,
although
anecdotal?
So
I
I
did
ask
for
some
information
from
the
state
and
we
don't
collect
any
of
it,
which
is
where
the
this
bill
comes
into
play.
It's
important
for
us
to
have
that
data
so
that
we
can
look
at
what
kind
of
policies
are
reasonable
to
adopt
to
be
able
to
address
the
root
causes
of?
Why
we're
seeing
the
mass
exodus
of
women
of
color
from
certain
agencies
or
or
whatever
the
case
may
be
again,
we
don't.
M
M
This
is
really
a
base
line
and
foundational
rule
for
the
state
that,
when
we
that
our
goal
is
to
have
a
diverse
workforce,
that
adds
to
the
to
the
quality
of
the
services
that
the
state
offers
in
the
state
while
being
anti-racist
and
really
accommodating
the
needs
of
people.
Today,.
F
A
H
F
M
Thank
you,
chair
assembly,
woman,
peters
for
the
record.
Thank
you
committee
for
hearing
this
bill.
I
urge
you
to
support
this
legislation,
as
it
helps
us
gauge
the
effectiveness
of
our
efforts
to
ensure
that
there
is
no
discrimination
in
state
employment
and
that
state
employees
will
be
treated
with
the
dignity
and
respect
that
they
deserve.
A
Thank
you
assemblywoman
and
with
that
we'll
go
ahead
and
close
out
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
365,
and
we
look
forward
to
continue
to
work
with
you,
assemblywoman
peters,
next,
we'll
go
to
public
comment.
I
want
to
remind
those
of
you
wishing
to
testify
during
public
comment
that
we
number
one
encourage
you
to
do
so
always
call
in.
We
want
you
to
do
that.
A
A
Thank
you
members.
I
want
to
remind
you
that
tomorrow,
we'll
be
meeting
at
9
00
a.m.
We're
going
to
be
hearing
assembly
build
304
assembly,
bill,
333
and
assembly
bill
385,
give
yourself
an
opportunity
to
become
familiar
with
that,
and
I'd
like
to
adjourn
in
honor
of
latino
lobby
day.
Had
we
not
been,
unfortunately,
in
the
middle
of
this
pandemic,
we
would
have
seen
this
building
with
a
whole
host
of
small
businesses,
non-profits
and
individuals
who
proudly
contribute
every
day
to
our
community.
A
So
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
all
those
wonderful,
empowered,
latinas
latinos
out
there
putting
in
work
and
for
all
the
work
you
do
and
with
that
this
meeting's.