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A
C
E
E
A
A
As
always,
I
look
forward
to
today's
dialogue
for
those
of
you
following
us.
A
Virtually
please
know
that
we'll
be
taking
the
agenda
slightly
out
of
order
we'll
be
doing
it
in
the
reverse,
so
we'll
be
hearing
assembly
build
357
first,
followed
by
assembly,
bill
336
and
then
lastly,
assembly
bill
313.,
for
those
of
you
wishing
to
speak
in
a
public
comment,
know
that
we'll
be
doing
that
at
the
conclusion
of
today's
hearing
and
as
always,
I
want
to
remind
members
of
the
public
that
you
may
see
us
looking
in
different
directions.
H
Good
morning,
mr
chairman
and
members
of
the
government
affairs
committee
for
the
record,
my
name
is
jason
fryerson.
I
represent
assembly
district,
eight
and
I'm
speaker
of
the
nevada
state
assembly.
I
am
here
with
representatives
from
the
legal
aid
center
of
southern
nevada
and
the
attorney
general's
office.
We
are
here
to
present
ab357
the
attorney
general's
office
and
our
legal
aid
organizations
have
worked
closely
over
the
years
to
protect
nevada
consumers
from
scams,
fraud,
predatory
business
practices
and
unfair
housing
practices.
H
This
work
has
been
primarily
funded
by
the
national
mortgage
settlement
and,
unfortunately,
at
a
time
when
nevada's
need
help
the
most
from
this
funding,
it
is
nearly
exhausted.
Ab357
will
create
a
permanent
funding
mechanism
and-
and
it
will
do
so
without
impacting
our
state's
general
fund
to
continue
this
important
work.
The
interested
parties
have
worked
very
hard
together
to
ensure
the
success
of
83
57
and,
of
course,
they
will
walk
you
through
the
provisions
of
that
bill.
H
So
with
that,
you
know-
and
I
have
worked
very
closely
this
regarding
settlements
over
the
years
I
I've
worked
alongside
our
attorney
general
aaron
ford,
certainly
when
he
was
the
senate
majority
leader,
as
well
as
former
speaker
of
barbara
buckley,
who
was
my
predecessor
in
assembly,
district,
8
and
and
those
parties
came
together
to
work,
work
out
how
to
continue
this
incredibly
important
work.
H
So
with
that
I'd
like
to
turn
the
presentation
over
first
to
the
attorney
general
aaron
ford
and
his
office
to
provide
further
remarks.
H
Thank
you
again.
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
speaker
and
chair
flores
members
of
the
committee
good
morning.
My
name
is
aaron
ford
and
I
am
your
attorney
general
I'm
joined
here
today
with
several
of
my
staff
members,
including
consumer
advocate,
ernest
figueroa,
chief
consumer
council
mark
krueger,
chief
financial
officer,
jessica,
hoban
and
chief
of
staff,
jessica,
adair.
We
are
here
to
explain
ab357,
which
creates
the
consumer
protection
legal
fund
on
day
two
on
the
job.
Here
at
the
office
of
attorney
general,
I
announced
my
priorities
as
attorney
general.
H
I
selected
these
priorities
because
of
the
one
of
these
priorities.
I
selected
these
priorities
and
many
which
we
talk
about
frequently,
but
one
of
these
priorities
is
consumer
protection.
One
person
in
this
state
every
person
in
the
state
is
a
consumer.
Every
business
in
the
state
is
a
consumer.
Our
economy,
in
the
biggest
sense
of
the
and
in
the
smallest
sense,
depends
on
consumers
being
able
to
make
fair
purchases
based
on
accurate
information
from
big
purchases
like
buying
a
house
or
a
car
to
small
purchases.
H
Like
the
computer
in
front
of
you,
you're
all
consumers,
there
are
purchase
you
purchases,
you
may
not
even
consider
to
be
consumer
purchases
such
as
prescriptions
or
education.
Nonetheless,
you
are
a
consumer.
H
We
trust
that
the
good
or
the
service
that
we
purchase
will
be
what
it
purports
to
be,
but
there
are
people
who
take
advantage
of
that
trust
people
who
prey
on
vulnerable
consumers
for
their
own
greed.
My
office
has
devoted
special
attention
to
those
who
defraud
nevadans
and
take
and
violate
the
public
trust
we
investigate
and
prosecute
scam
and
defraud
nevadans,
and
we
take
on
some
of
the
world's
largest
companies
who
deceived
or
failed
to
protect
our
consumers
and
we
win.
H
Our
ask
of
you
is
a
simple
one:
help
us
to
continue
doing
our
work.
We,
along
with
legal
aid
partners,
have
created
a
consumer
protection,
a
robust
human
protection
effort
in
this
state,
but
in
order
to
be
able
to
continue
it,
we
need
the
resources
to
do
our
jobs.
I
will
now
ask
jessica
adair
to
explain
the
bill
that
will
allow
us
to
do
just
that
and
mr
chair,
if
you
would
indulge
me,
I
may
have
to
jump
off
before
the
end
of
the
hearing.
Do
I
have
your
permission
to
do
so.
D
Good
morning,
chair
flores
and
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
jessica
adair
for
the
record.
Nearly
10
years
ago,
the
nevada
attorney
general's
office
entered
into
a
multi-state
settlement
and
a
separate
state
settlement
with
bank
of
america.
As
a
result
of
the
2008
mortgage
crisis,
the
national
mortgage
settlement
was
reached
with
five
of
the
nation's
largest
banks
and
resulted
in
changes
to
the
mortgage
industry
and
1.2
billion
dollar
in
borrower
relief
to
nevadans.
D
The
separate
state
settlement
with
bank
of
america
resulted
in
87.3
million
dollars
to
the
state
of
nevada
for
consumer
protection
efforts.
A
majority
of
that
funding
was
directed
to
the
department
of
business
and
industry
to
ameliorate
the
effects
of
the
mortgage
crisis,
but
a
portion
of
that
funding
was
designated
to
be
used
by
the
attorney
general's
office.
D
First,
the
creation
of
positions
in
the
ag's
office
to
help
nevadans
by
thorough
investigation
and
prosecution
of
consumer
fraud
and
two
a
grant
program
to
legal
aid
organizations
that
provide
consumer
protection,
legal
assistance
to
low-income
nevadans
in
later
years.
Guardianship
and
elder
exploitation
were
added
to
the
purpose
of
this
program.
D
D
D
This
includes
attorneys
in
our
bureau
of
consumer
protection
who
investigate
violations
of
nevada's
consumer
protection
laws
such
as
equifax,
who
was
responsible
for
the
largest
consumer
data
breach
in
our
country's
history
and
for-profit
colleges
that
scammed
young
nevadan
military
veterans
trying
to
complete
their
degrees.
For
example,
it
also
includes
sworn
peace
officers
who
investigate
fraud
and
elder
abuse
prosecutors
who
bring
justice
to
fraudsters
and
administrative
professionals
who
support
these
divisions
and
also
serve
in
our
con
constituent
services
unit
fielding
thousands
of
complaints
from
nevadans
victimized
by
scams
and
fraud.
D
D
D
Ab357
is
simple:
in
its
design
and
efficient
in
structure,
the
goal
is
to
direct
the
sporadic
settlement
funding
to
consumer
protection
needs.
This
is
accomplished
as
follows.
In
sections
four,
five
and
six
of
the
bill
settlement
funds
are
placed
into
a
consumer
protection
administrative
fund.
There
are
some
exceptions,
such
as
restitution
to
victims
and
certain
other
recoveries.
D
D
D
The
other
50
percent
would
fund
consumer
protection
efforts
throughout
the
state
by
three
legal
aid:
non-profit
organizations,
the
legal
aid
center
of
southern
nevada,
nevada,
legal
services
and
washoe
legal
services.
The
distribution
between
these
three
organizations
in
the
bill
reflects
the
current
distribution
of
the
home.
Again.
Funding
to
these
organizations,
speaker
buckley,
will
give
additional
details
on
the
consumer
protection
efforts.
Legal
aid
organizations
provide
to
nevadans
in
just
a
moment
for
transparency
and
accountability.
D
This
solution,
while
some
may
argue,
is
not
perfect,
because
we
have
no
way
of
anticipating
incoming
settlement.
Funds
to
the
state
is
one
that
has
the
potential
to
be
self-funding
in
its
success
some
years
we
might
fall
short
of
funding
to
pay
for
all
staff,
so
just
in
case
this
bill
allows
the
attorney
general's
office
to
request
contingency
funding
from
the
interim
finance
committee
during
a
shortfall.
D
D
D
These
lawsuits
are
what
bring
settlement
funding
into
the
state
in
the
first
place,
and
this
bill
preserves
our
ability
to
do
our
jobs
and
pays
for
those
jobs,
and
no
one
else
in
this
state
provides
legal
assistance
to
low-income
nevadans
on
consumer
protection
issues
like
the
legal
aid
organizations
specified
in
this
bill
now.
On
that
note,
I
would
like
to
tender
the
mic
with
the
chair's
permission
to
speaker,
barbara
buckley,
the
executive
director
of
legal
aid
center
of
southern
nevada.
I
Good
morning,
mr
chairman,
members
of
the
committee,
for
the
record,
my
name
is
barbara
buckley
and
I'm
the
executive
director
of
legal
aid
center
of
southern
nevada,
one
of
our
most
important
programs
at
legal
aid
center
of
southern
nevada
is
our
consumer
rights
project
in
our
system
of
law.
The
attorney
general's
office
can
prosecute
criminals
and
engage
in
lawsuits,
actions
against
predatory
and
illegal
behavior
for
its
consumer
protection
division,
but
the
own,
but
it
cannot
represent
individuals
in
their
own
actions
and
that's
where
legal
aid
organizations
come
in.
I
If
you
can
afford
your
own
attorney
in
a
legal
matter,
that's
fine
that
that
that
is
what
we
all
need
once
in
a
while,
but
if
you're
poor
middle
class,
you
can't
afford
an
attorney
and
that's
where
legal
aid
comes
in
a
good
example
of
this.
Dual
role
played
by
the
attorney
general's
office
and
legal
aid
organizations
is
in
the
area
of
guardianship,
fraud,
one
where
we
have
collaborated,
so
the
attorney
general's
office
can
prosecute
predatory
guardians,
I'm
sure
you're,
all
aware
of
the
scandal
that
we
had
in
nevada.
I
You
know
four
or
five
years
ago
in
this
area.
What
legal
aid
is
able
to
do?
Is
we
represent
now
and
now
every
individual
over
whom
a
guardian
is
sought.
I
We
meet
individually
with
that,
usually
it's
a
senior
we
find
out
what
they
want
and
through
those
actions
we
are
able
to
file
motions
to
remove
guardians.
So
only
reason
for
being,
there
is
to
strip
the
senior
of
every
one
of
their
assets
and
that's
what
was
happening
before
we
jointly
got
involved.
I
I
One
of
my
favorites
was
uber,
not
u-b-e-r,
but
u-b-r-e,
which
convinced
individuals,
one
individuals,
bought
five
vehicles
in
one
day
for
a
partnership
interest
in
uber.
Ultimately,
the
attorney
general's
office
stepped
in
our
office,
represented
the
individual
and
got
all
that
rescinded
because
it
was
a
fraudulent
scam.
I
So,
as
mentioned
by
the
attorney
general's
office,
legal
aids,
their
office
have
been
funded
by
the
national
mortgage
settlement
act,
which
is
running
out
of
money
at
a
time
when
their
office
and
our
office
needs
this
funding
more
than
ever.
We
hope
this
innovative
approach
to
funding
can
prevent
these
catastrophic
cuts
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
A
A
And
we
may
be
having
some
technical
issues
with
speaker
fryerson,
but
at
this
time
we'll
open
it
for
questions.
I
do
know
that
we
have
speaker
buckley
ready
for
that
and
the
attorney
general's
office,
so
members
will
open
it
for
questions
at
this
time
and
we'll
start
off
with
assemblyman
ellison.
Please.
E
D
Let's
go
dare
for
the
record
if
I
may,
this
is
an
existing
program.
This
program
is
currently
funded
with
the
national
mortgage
or
the
bank
of
america
state
settlement
that
was
reached
in
2012,
and
we
are
at
the
end
of
that
funding.
D
So
what
this
bill
does
is
it
allows
us
to
use
future
settlement
funding
split
it
in
half
half
goes
to
the
ag's
office
to
continue
our
existing
consumer
protection
efforts
and
half
goes
to
legal
aid
organizations
so
that
they
can
continue
the
good
work
that
they
have
been
doing,
but
without
our
ability
to
utilize
future
settlement
funds.
In
this
way,
the
funding
will
be
depleted
and
we'll
have
to
end
these
programs.
A
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
speaker
and
speaker
buckley
and
general
ford
for
presenting
my
question
has
to
do
such
a
great
bill.
My
question
actually
has
to
do
with
the
division,
as
explained
in
section
three
be
one
through
three
with
with
how
that
percentages
are
being
cut
out,
is
or
divided
out.
Is
that
due
to
the
population,
or
is
that,
due
to
the
usage
of
the
past
time,.
D
Frame,
thank
you,
jessica,
dare
for
the
record,
and
I
I
want
to
allow
speaker
buckley
to
speak
on
this
as
well,
but
the
the
distribution
that
is
in
the
bill
is
the
current
distribution
of
funding
right
now.
So
we
did
not
change
or
alter
that
funding
right
now
under
the
existing
home
again
program,
it
is
a
reimbursement
basis.
D
So
what
we
set
a
certain
authority
for
legal
aid
organizations
to
spend
they
send
us
essentially
an
invoice
of
of
what
they
have
spent,
mostly
staff
salaries,
the
staff
who
are
working
on
this
program
and
reimbursement.
So
it's
on
a
reimbursement
basis.
D
This
would
change
this
slightly
and
that
it
would
no
longer
be
a
reimbursement
basis,
but
just
50
percent
of
the
of
the
proceeds
would
go
to
legal
aid
organizations,
but
of
course
they
still
have
to
provide
an
accounting
to
the
state
to
ensure
that
that
funding
is
being
sent
in
the
appropriate
manner.
D
I
And
this
is
barbara
buckley,
mr
sheriff,
I
may
jump
in
as
well.
Thank
you
when
the
legal
aid
organizations
requested
this
funding
from
the
attorney
general's
office,
each
organization
presented
a
budget
and
were
able
to
try
to
utilize
other
funding
to
blend
it
to
make
it
work.
I
C
So,
thank
you
very
much
that
clarifies
the
distribution
and
percentage.
Thank
you.
J
L
Okay,
thank
you.
So
it
looks
like
right
now.
C
K
Any
funds
over
450
000
that
are
not
used
in
the
attorney
general
special
fund
essentially
would
go
into
this
consumer
protection
administrative
fund
right
now
they
would
revert
back
to
the
general
fund.
Do
we
know
how
much
over
the
last
couple
bienniums
that
have
been
contributed
into
the.
D
Thank
you,
assemblywoman
jessica,
dare
for
the
record
so
currently
the
settlement
funding
usually
comes
into
that
special
fund
and
then
a
portion
of
that
goes
to
the
consumer
protection
administrative
purposes,
and
so
that's
why
we're
setting
up
that
consumer
protection
administrative
fund
oftentimes
before
that
settlement
funding
is
reverted
to
the
general
fund.
At
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year,
the
attorney
general's
office
uses
a
work
program
process
through
the
interim
finance
committee
to
distribute
that
settlement
funding
in
a
different
way.
D
So
in
the
past
few
years
we
have,
for
example,
we
have
used
about
two
million
dollars
for
emergency
rental
assistance
in
the
eviction
crisis
we
we
are
spent.
D
I
can't
remember
the
exact
figure,
but
I
think
about
450,
to
500
000
on
bullistic
protective
equipment
for
local
local
law
enforcement
agencies
and
fire
departments.
So
we
set
up
a
grant
with
that
so
often
times
we
use
that
funding
before
it
reverts
to
the
to
the
general
fund.
I
don't
have
an
exact
figure
for
what
has
been
reverted
to
the
general
funds,
but
usually
the
attorney
general's
and
from
a.g
ford
and
his
predecessors
have
used
the
settlement
funding
to
fund
a
variety
of
of
other
projects
throughout
the
state.
K
D
Thank
you
for
asking
that
question,
assuming
a
woman
just
good
day
for
the
record,
because
I
think
this
is
an
important
point
that
we
make
on
the
record.
So
in
the
bill
in
section.
D
Section
three:
a
nope,
not
that
section
in
the
bill.
There
is
a
specific
provision
that
prevents
certain
recoveries
from
being
diverted
to
the
consumer,
protection,
administrative
and
legal
funds,
and
that
includes
contingency
fee
council,
recoveries,
so
litigation
because
we
have
contingency
fee
council
for
the
opioid
litigation.
The
opioid
litigation
would
not
be
subject
to
the
consumer
protection
legal
fund
and
whereas
in
the
existing
mckenzie
settlement-
and
I
imagine,
future
opioid
litigation,
it
will
be
by
court
order
that
that
funding
be
used
for
opioid
remediation
and
abatement.
D
J
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Thank
you,
mr
speaker,
mr
attorney
general,
miss
adair
and
speaker
buckley
appreciate
the
presentation.
I
certainly
find
the
intent
here,
important
and
laudable.
My
only
concern
would
be,
I
guess,
with
the
issue
of
legislative
oversight,
you
know
conceivably,
we
could
end
up
with
very
significant
amounts
of
money
going
into
this
fund.
J
You
know,
as
opposed
to
the
general
fund,
and
I'm
you
know
wondering
my
instinct
is
to
say
that
that
lawmakers
ought
to
be
sort
of
empowered
to
a
degree
to
appropriate
this
fund
as
needed.
You
know
to
this
this
new
effort
and
potentially
use
other
funds
for
other
purposes
as
needed.
You
know
at
the
discretionary
legislature
why?
Why
not
have
you
know
some
of
these
funds
go
to
the
general
fund
where,
where
legislators
can
kind
of
make
have
some
some
say
in
some
input,
as
opposed
to
default?
J
Going
to
this.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
you,
assemblyman
jessica,
dare
for
the
record,
I'm
for,
for
a
few
reasons,
the
vast
majority
of
the
settlements
that
we
that
we've
agreed
to
in
these
multi-state
investigations
and
lawsuits
or
in
our
interstate
consumer
protection
lawsuit.
The
settlement
agreement
states
that
the
funding
is
awarded
to
the
state
of
nevada
shall
be
dispersed
at
the
discretion
of
the
attorney
general.
D
We
get
that
funding
because
a
consumer
protection
law
was
broken
and
as
punishment,
the
offender
shall
pay
the
state
of
nevada
to
compensate
it
for
that
violation
of
consumer
protection
laws
in
in
the
past
two
years.
Every
time
I
have
gone
before
the
interim
finance
committee
with
a
work
program
to
spend
this
settlement
funding.
The
first
question
I
always
get
is:
how
does
this
relate
to
consumer
protection,
sometimes
the
the
nexus
between
consumer
protection
and
how
we
spend
the
settlement.
Funding
isn't
clear.
D
This
will
make
it
abundantly
clear
that
all
future
settlement
funding
is
being
used
for
the
purpose
of
consumer
protection
and
to
the
betterment
of
nevadans.
In
that
regard,.
J
M
C
So
we've
just
about
run
out
of
the
bank
of
america
settlement
money
and
just
wondering
if
there's
anything,
if
there's
current
litigation
right
now
that
you
expect
to
receive
some
funding
or
any
kind
of
funding
coming.
Because
also
I
see
that
if
we
don't
have
the.
C
D
Thank
you,
assemblywoman
jessica,
dare
for
the
record,
so
these
funds
are
very
sporadic
they.
We
really
have
no
idea.
We
have
no
way
of
anticipating
the
amount
or
recovery
that
we
might
receive.
Our
office
is
constantly
engaged
in
multi-state
investigations.
Sometimes
those
investigations
don't
come
to
fruition
with
a
lawsuit,
sometimes
the
the
settlement
between
the
states.
The
distribution
between
the
states
is
very
fact
specific
about
the
harm
that
that
occurred
in
each
state.
D
Historically,
though,
on
average
we
have
been,
we
have
received
about
three
million
dollars
give
or
take
per
year,
some
years
we
have
more
some
years,
we
have
less
but
assemblywoman
to
your
to
your
specific
point
about
us
being
able
to
go
to
isc.
I
think
a
poor,
an
important
feature
of
the
bill
is
that
these
funds
do
not
revert
to
the
general
fund
at
the
end
of
the
year,
and
the
purpose
of
that
is
so
that
we
can
carry
forward
that
funding
and
better
anticipate
those
shortfalls.
D
If
we
were
forced
to
spend
that
money
to
to
zero
every
fiscal
year
we
wouldn't
be
or
or
even
every
biennium,
I
think
we
would
be
coming
to
ifc
much
more
frequently
because
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
put
something
in
reserve,
and
I
I
want
to
you
know
if,
if
speaker
buckley
wants
to
speak
to
how
this
feature
would
allow
her
to
better
manage
the
funding
for
legal
organizations.
D
I
I
want
to
give
her
that
opportunity,
but
I
all
know
that
the
the
the
ability
to
go
up
to
ifc
only
applies
to
the
ag's
office.
It
does
not
apply
to
legal
aid
and
then
I
also
got
a
note
from
our
staff
during
this
testimony
to
answer
assemblywoman
black's
question:
we
have
not
reverted
any
settlement
funding
in
the
past
several
years
to
the
general
fund.
We
can
get
you
more
historical
data
on
that,
but
I
wanted
to
put
that
on
the
record
before
the
hearing
ended.
C
H
Mr
chair
and
jessica
there,
if
you
wouldn't
mind
me,
jumping
in
on
this
one
I'll
say
this
assemblywoman,
it's
great
to
see
you
again
as
well
as
jessica
daryl
indicated.
We
have
many
pieces
of
litigation,
percolating
right
now,
litigation
investigations,
yeah
and-
and
it's
just
very
difficult
to
anticipate
when
those
may
settle
when
those
may
resolve
when
litigation
is
going
to
ultimately
ensue
after
conversations,
and
so
yes,
there
are,
there
are
things
in
the
hopper
so
to
speak,
but
there's
really
no
way
of
being
able
to
determine
when
we
like
it.
C
A
B
Good
morning
for
the
record,
I'm
dionne
content,
I'm
the
executive
director
at
washoe
legal
services.
B
B
A
A
I
don't
believe
we
have
anybody
else
joining
us
be
a
camera.
Do
we?
Oh,
I
do
see
our
ernest
figueroa.
Are
you
here
to
testify
in
support
of
assembly
bill
357,
good
evening
chair,
I'm
just
here
to
testify
and
answer.
E
Questions
in
support
of
jessica
there
and
attorney
general
okay.
A
Perfect
presentation
just
wanted
to
make
sure.
Thank
you.
So
at
this
time
we'll
go
to
the
phone
lines
and
we'll
invite
those
wishing
to
testify
in
support
of
assembly
bill
357
broadcast.
Please.
N
N
C
C
L
C
Does
pro
bono
work
with
regards
to
consumer
protection.
A
N
E
Consumer
protection
is
an
important
goal,
especially
for
low-income
populations,
but
these
same
populations
are
disproportionately
impacted
by
mass
incarceration.
In
many
cases,
criminalizing
consumer
fraud
is
hurting
the
people
we're
trying
to
protect.
To
avoid
this
harm,
nacj
believes
that
consumer
protection
should
be
primarily
addressed
through
civil
enforcement
rather
than
criminalization.
E
H
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
again
for
the
record
jason
ryerson.
I
just
want
to
thank
the
committee
for
their
their
their
attention
and
questions
on
such
an
important
issue
and
an
existing
program
that
I
don't
believe
the
veterans
can
run
the
risk
of
of
losing
moving
forward.
So
it's
all
about
being
prepared
with
a
structure
in
place
to
best
serve
the
needs
of
our
state.
So
I
I
thank
you
all
for
your
consideration
and
urge
your
support.
H
I
believe
the
attorney
general
had
to
to
leave.
So
I
I
don't
know
if
either
mr
dare
or
if
speaker
buckley,
had
any
closing
remarks.
A
D
No
chair,
thank
you
so
much
for
hearing
this
bill.
I
want
to
thank
speaker
fryerson
for
for
bringing
this
bill
and
if
anybody
on
the
committee
has
any
further
questions,
our
office
is
always
available.
Please
don't
hesitate
to
reach
out
and
we'll
try
to
get
you
answers
as
soon
as
we
can,
because
we
know
the
deadlines
coming
up.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
your
support.
A
A
Perfect,
I
see
assembly
women,
danielle,
monroe
moreno
has
joined
us
and
I
will
now
open
up
the
hearing
and
assembly
bill
3
36
good
morning
and
welcome.
G
I'm
here
today
to
present
for
your
consideration
assembly
bill
336,
a
measure
that
will
provide
peace
officers
with
an
opportunity
to
have
an
annual
behavioral
health
care.
Wellness
visit
joining
me
today
is
my
co-sponsor.
Assemblyman
tom
roberts
miss
michelle
freeman,
who
is
a
retired
chief
from
the
city
of
las
vegas
and
mr
joe
collins,
who
is
retired
police
chief
from
two
rivers,
police
department
and
missed
haran
hyatt,
who
is
the
area
director
for
american
foundation
for
suicide
prevention,
along
with
officer
antonio
rodriguez
and
other
therapists
and
counselors
working
in
the
behavioral
health
care
arena?.
G
Sheriff
flores
and
committee
for
me,
ab-336
is
very
personal
prior
to
having
the
opportunity
to
serving
the
families
of
nevada.
Here
in
this
legislative
body,
I
served
for
almost
30
years
as
a
corrections
officer
beginning
my
career
with
the
maricopa
county
sheriff's
office.
Before
joining
the
north,
las
vegas
police
department,
detention
center.
G
G
I
guess
once
an
officer
and
part
of
the
law
enforcement
family
you're,
always
an
officer,
it
doesn't
leave
you
many
of
the
widely
publicized
events
of
2020
caused
me
pain,
deep
pain.
I
heard
as
a
black
woman
in
america
I
heard
as
a
mother
and
as
a
grandmother,
but
I
also
heard
as
a
retired
law
enforcement
officer.
G
Peace
officers
are
our
modern
day,
superheroes
they're,
the
ones
that
run
towards
danger
when
others
are
running
away.
While
some
truly
are
heroes.
All
of
us
all
of
our
peace
officers
are
first
and
foremost
people.
We
are
humans
with
the
same
stressors
that
life
has
to
offer
family
health,
financial,
marital
issues,
and
they
balance
all
of
that.
The
everyday
rigor
with
the
battles
of
the
additional
workplace
stressors,
often
seeing
and
experiencing
the
worst
of
the
words
that
society
has
to
offer
encountering
situations
that
are
simply
unimaginable.
G
G
G
During
the
hiring
process
I
had
to
fill
out
an
application
had
a
personal
interview,
a
physical
test,
a
psych
evaluation
and
annually.
I
had
to
have
that
physical
exam
again
to
ensure
that
I
could
continue
to
be
medically
and
physically
fit
to
continue
to
do
my
job,
but
never
was
my
emotional
or
mental
health
and
wellness
discussed.
G
O
Thank
you,
mr
chair
and
distinguished
members
and
I'll,
be
really
brief,
because
I
think
my
co-sponsor
did
a
phenomenal
job
of
explaining
the
need
for
this
bill.
But
I'll
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
my
34
years
in
law
enforcement,
I
spent
nine
in
the
air
force
and
almost
25
at
metro
during
my
tenure
at
metro.
We
had
31
employees
commit
suicide.
While
I
was
there
ten
of
those
I
knew
closely.
I
worked
with
them
closely.
O
Two
were
trainees
of
mine.
I
actually
trained
these
two
gentlemen
and
one
that
killed
himself
in
the
last
year
actually
worked
with
me
up
here
in
this
body,
testifying
doing
government
affairs
work
here
at
the
legislature.
O
Now,
more
than
ever,
based
on
the
issues
that
occurred
last
year
and
on
the
heels
of
october
1
in
our
community,
I'll
just
tell
you
that
a
lot
of
folks
don't
have
they
don't
come
forward
on
their
own.
They
believe
they
can
handle
some
of
these
things
themselves
and
that's
why
I
believe
it's
so
important
that
we
put
this
little
status
check
this
annual
status
check
in
in
every
officer's
life,
so
that
that
one
conversation
may
be
the
tipping
point.
That
would
reduce
these
numbers
that
I
just
told
you
today.
M
M
M
M
According
to
afsp,
suicide
is
the
tenth
leading
cause
of
death
in
the
united
states
and
the
eighth
leading
cause
of
death
in
nevada.
This
is
not
something
we
want
to
be
leading
in.
We
know
the
information
is
underreported
when
it
comes
to
suicide,
primarily
because
of
the
stigma
surrounding
it
in
the
united
states,
from
2016
to
2019.
M
M
In
one
instance,
I
responded
on
the
weekends
to
a
bar,
not
as
their
supervisor
as
a
caring
individual,
to
ensure
that
officer
could
get
the
assistance
that
they
needed.
Officers
are
humans,
like
everyone
else.
The
difference
is
that
their
personal
lives
have
an
extra
layer
on
top
of
that
they're
exposed
to
all
that
comes
with
them
during
their
career
as
they
serve
their
community.
M
M
Why
should
you
care
officers,
well-being
and
suicide
affects
everyone.
It
is
a
public
health
safety
that
is
public
health
and
safety
concern,
whether
it's
a
call
for
service
or
a
routine
patrol.
Don't
we
all
want
all
of
our
officers
to
be
of
healthy,
mind
and
body
through
my
doctoral
work,
I
conducted
a
short
survey.
M
M
M
I
am
excited
to
to
report
that
the
survey
was
conducted
within
a
two-week
short
two-week
time
frame
and
there
were
844
respondents
here.
Our
officers,
two
relevant
questions
and
responses
from
the
survey
in
regards
to
this
bill
are,
do
you
know
any
law
enforcement
officers
who
have
either
thought
about
attempted
or
died
by
suicide
out
of
839
respondents?
For
this
particular
question,
579
said
either
yes
or
maybe
another
relevant
question.
I'd
like
to
bring
to
your
attention
not
verbatim.
M
M
M
I
am
here
to
tell
you
that
a
smile
on
a
face
does
not
mean
an
officer
isn't
suffering
in
silence.
Typically,
in
our
profession,
we
learn
our
motto
in
the
academy.
No
one
gets
left
behind
officer
hood
sat
next
to
me.
During
my
entire
academy
officer,
hood
died
by
suicide
officer.
Hood
was
left
behind
in
my
image.
M
In
my
mind,
I
see
an
empty
chair,
empty
chairs
matter
from
the
bottom
of
my
heart.
Thank
you,
chair
and
committee
members
for
considering
this
bill.
I
know
together
we
can
make
a
difference,
saving
lives
and
ensuring
our
communities
are
as
safe
as
possible
and
the
time
to
do
it
is
right
now.
Thank
you
again.
P
Hi,
thank
you
chair.
My
name
is
joe
collins
and
currently
I
work
for
acadia
healthcare,
which
is
the
largest
behavioral
health
provider
in
the
world,
I
retired
in
february
of
2020,
as
a
police
chief
in
two
rivers
wisconsin
after
35
years
in
law
enforcement
21
years
as
a
police
chief
in
two
different
communities.
P
During
my
tenure
I
was
actually
the
lead
chairperson
for
the
law
enforcement
death
response
team
for
wisconsin.
During
those
10
years
we
had
13
line
of
duty
deaths
and
27
suicides
that
we
knew
about.
So
more
than
double
officers
were
taking
their
lives.
Then
they
were
losing
their
lives
in
the
line
of
duty.
P
It's
imperative
that
we
do
what
we
can
to
help
officers
around
the
world.
Some
of
the
other
things
that
we
do
now
is
that
currently
I
work
as
a
public
safety
liaison.
I
help
first
responders
their
organizations,
their
their
agencies,
their
family
members,
navigate
the
behavioral
health
world
and
trying
to
find
them
appropriate
care
in
different
levels
of
care.
P
You
heard
that
the
list
of
names
that
michelle
freeman
talked
about.
I've
also
had
close
personal
friends
who
have
taken
their
lives
during
the
35
years
in
my
career
in
law
enforcement,
and
this
just
seems
like
the
most
natural
progression
for
what
you're
doing
in
the
state
of
nevada.
You've
already
you've
already
accepted
the
the
idea
that
it's
important
to
have
medical
and
mental
screenings.
P
When
someone
comes
in
to
be
hired
in
the
job,
you've
added
training
during
their
career
to
be
able
to
make
them
aware
of
officer
wellness
issues
and
and
how
important
that
is,
you've
accepted
the
fact
that
stress
injuries
occur
as
a
result
of
working
as
a
first
responder.
So
now
what
we
have
to
do
is
is
get
upstream.
We
have
to
get
upstream
and
make
sure
that
we
figure
out
why
people
are
falling
into
this
trauma.
P
Chief
freeman
talked
about
the
traumas
and
the
different
situations
that
people
face.
A
normal
person
faces
trauma
throughout
their
life.
A
handful
of
traumas,
statistically
first
responders
across
the
country,
are
encountering
three
and
a
half
large
significant
trauma
situations
every
six
months
of
their
career.
P
If
you
do
the
math
during
a
20-year
career,
that's
more
than
140
and
you
go
out
to
a
30-year
career,
potentially
they're,
seeing
200
significant
trauma
situations
during
their
career,
and
we
must
give
them
the
ability
to
release
that
trauma
from
their
body.
That's
cumulative
trauma,
and
unless
there
are
active
resources
involved
and
people
actually
manage
that
trauma
body,
it
will
destroy
them.
And
that's
what
we
see
when
people
are
taking
their
lives
as
they
didn't
have
the
resources
they
didn't,
have
the
ability
to
communicate
with
someone
or
they
didn't
feel
safe.
P
The
university
of
phoenix
also
did
a
study
back
in
2019,
and
what
it
shows
is
that
85
percent
of
first
responders
have
suffered
some
type
of
significant
trauma
that
has
impacted
their
lives
negatively
in
some
way.
In
that
same
survey,
what
they
said
is
that
55
percent
said
that
they
would
be
viewed
differently
by
their
supervisors
if
they
asked
for
help
and
an
additional
70
percent
said
that
that
mental
health
services
are
seldom
or
never
used
because
of
the
culture.
P
They
believe
that
they'll
be
looked
differently
by
their
supervisors
by
the
people
that
they
work
with,
because
this
is
not
a
normal
conversation
and
it's
not
normal
to
see
a
therapist
within
the
first
responder
community,
and
this
is
a
way
of
changing
that
our
officers
and
our
staff
when
they
went
to
see
the
first
responder
therapist
that
we
had
everybody
did
it.
So
it
was
a
normal,
normal
activity
and
it
saved
people's
lives
and
it
saved
marriages
as
a
result,
and
we
need
to
be
able
to
do
that.
P
So
I'm
here
to
support
it.
I
work
first
responders
every
single
day
I
talk
to
them.
I
talk
to
their
agencies
across
the
country
and
trauma
is
one
of
the
most
significant
things
that
we're
dealing
with
for
people
that
are
actually
asking
for
help
and
needing
help.
So
I
I
thank
you
for
your
time
and
I
will
yield
back
to
to
the
group,
as
we
have
a
couple
more
presenters.
Thank
you.
F
Yes,
thank
you
so
much
good
morning,
sheriff
flores
and
vice
chair
torres
and
committee
members.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
your
service
and
and
doing
the
people's
work
amongst
a
time
that
has
been
really
critical
for
for
all
of
us.
I
just
want
to
also
extend
my
gratitude
to
assemblywoman
miro,
moreno
and
assemblyman
roberts
for
bringing
forth
the
spill.
F
We
are
so
thrilled
with
the
progress
that
we
have
seen
in
the
state
of
nevada,
as
mentioned
already
recognizing
this
as
an
issue,
we
know
that
we
lose
more
of
our
first
responders
to
suicide
than
we
do
in
the
line
of
duty,
as
has
already
been
discussed,
and
that
is
a
tragedy
that
we
can
prevent.
We
know
that
our
officers,
like
has
been
mentioned,
experience
occupational
trauma,
but
in
addition,
law
enforcement
officers
and
other
first
responders
tend
to
work
in
these
cultures
that
discourage
help
seeking
they
look
at
it.
F
F
We
want
to
ensure
that
all
law,
enforcement
officers
and
departments
have
the
knowledge
and
tools
to
effectively
prevent
officer
suicide,
and
I
love
that
this
idea
of
providing
an
opportunity
for
a
mental
health
assessment
we
are.
We
are
establishing
equity
between
mental
health
and
physical
health.
We
are
saying
this
is
just
as
important,
if
not
more
so.
We
know
that
there
is
no
single
cause
for
suicide,
but
by
preventing
mental
health
conditions,
addiction
again
addressing
access
to
lethal
means
and
empowering
our
law
enforcement
officers
to
live
and
thrive
in
their
communities.
We
save
lives.
F
Our
nevada
chapter
members
have
been
been
working
hard.
You
know
on
some
public
policy
priorities
this
year,
I'm
so
grateful
for
michelle
and
her
leadership
and
and
just
again
we
would
love
to
see
this
bill
move
forward.
I
want
to
end
just
quickly
with
it.
With
a
personal
experience
in
2002,
I
lost
my
dad
to
suicide.
F
F
I'm
sure
he
had
snot
down
his
shirt
that
he
held
me
and
supported
me.
I
could
share
hundreds
of
stories
about
my
experiences
with
law
enforcement
and
traumatic
situations,
and
yet
I
was
just
one
of
the
many
events
and
calls
that
they
responded
to
that
day.
I
am
full
of
compassion
for
the
trauma
that
our
officers
witness
that
they
incur
and
that
they
survive,
and
it
is
incumbent
upon
us
to
create
a
culture
that
supports
them.
A
R
Welcome
hi,
thank
you
so
much
sir.
For
the
record,
my
name
is
officer
antonio
rodriguez.
I
work
for
the
city
of
las
vegas
department
of
public
safety
and
I'm
going
on
my
20th
year,
working
at
apartment
that
I
love
and
care
for.
I'm
not
here
talking
to
you
today
as
a
correction
officer
for
my
department,
but
I'm
talking
today
as
the
vice
president
for
the
state
of
nevada
for
the
national
latino
peace
officers
association.
R
Our
association
is
an
association
that
cares
for
all
of
its
members.
It's
not
just
close
to
one
race
or
one
ethnicity,
but
it's
more
open
to
members
for
us
to
support
and
help
them
during
their
law
enforcement
career
and
hopefully
their
career
is
a
good
one.
Successful
one
with
many
good
things
to
offer.
You
know,
but
my
passion
for
community
is
what
brought
me
to
this
association.
R
R
This
accusation
led
me
to
go
into
an
investigation
that
ended
up
me
deciding
that.
Well,
you
know
I
don't
want
to
lose
my
job.
I
don't
want
to
dishonor
my
department
at
the
same
time.
You
know
I
know
what
I
did
and
did
not
do
during
this
time.
I
really
truly
thought
that
I
was
helpless,
hopeless
and
had
negative
thoughts.
I
even
thought
of
killing
myself
during
this
time.
As
I
was
thinking
these
thoughts,
you
know
michelle
freeman
was
our
chief
at
the
time
preached
out
to
me.
R
R
You
know
I
can
tell
you
firsthand
on
my
experience,
you
know,
and
as
people
don't
reach
out
what
they
do
is
they
find
comfort
in
certain
places
such
as
bars,
casinos
or
whatever
the
case
may
be
sad
thing
is
officers
when
they
hold
their
emotion,
then
they
hold
it
in
for
a
long
time
and
it
takes
that
right.
Emotional
breakdown
or
situation
happen
to
where,
at
that
point,
the
decision
of
suicide
comes
to
play.
R
R
A
All
right,
thank
you,
mr
rodriguez.
Next,
we'll
go
back
to
assemblywoman
monroe
moreno,
who,
I
believe
will
walk
us
through
the
bill
at
this.
A
A
No
broadcast,
if
we
could
have
you
to
walk
her
through
this,
please.
C
With
broadcast
assembly
with
my
monroe
moreno,
if
you
could
try
toggling
with
the
microphone
setting,
that's
the
carrot.
That's
right
above
the
microphone
on
the
left
hand,
corner.
A
F
We
can
also
try
doing
the
test
a
microphone
setting.
You
see
that
also
in
the
carrot.
F
K
C
I
can
I
can
hear
you
clean,
you,
do
sound
distant.
C
Headphones,
you
can
connect
also,
that
would
that
would
work.
A
L
Perfect
talk
about
spread
hello,
all
right,
thank
you
to
our
video
and
thanks
for
commenting
for
your
location
with
the
technical
issues.
L
As
you
look
at
assembly
bill
336
as
it
was
originally
printed,
it
stated
standards
for
behavioral
health
care
assessment
for
peace
officers,
which
must
be
completed
in
conjunction
with
the
annual
medical
examination
to
aid
in
preserving
the
emotional
and
mental
health
of
peace
officer
and
assessing
conditions
that
may
affect
the
performance
of
duties
by
the
peace
officer.
L
It
was
more
of
a
wellness
visit,
a
visit
where
a
peace
officer
can
have
a
protected
conversation
to
discuss
the
issues
that
they
are
dealing
with
and
that
conversation
should
remain
confidential
unless
the
officer
displays
a
risk
of
harm
to
themselves
or
to
others.
The
goal
is
to
have
an
emotional
and
mental
health
issues
to
be
treated
in
the
same
manner
that
a
department
would
treat
a
physical
and
medical
health
issue
and
further
discussion
with
other
local
municipalities
about
this
piece
of
legislation.
L
So
with
that,
mr
chair
and
committee,
we
will
close
and
we
will
open
up
for
questions
from
the
committee
from
any
of
the
presenters
that
you
may
have.
A
E
Question,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
for
bringing
this
bill.
I
I
think
this
is
a
long
time
coming.
It
needed
to
be
done.
E
I
know
this
is
very
emotional
for
a
lot
of
the
officers
that
have
to
bring
this
forward,
and
I've
only
got
one
question
and,
and
with
this
bill
is,
is
this
for
only
active
duties,
or
does
some
departments
extend
it
on
after
they
retire
that
they
do
a
yearly
physical
or
something
like
this?
Could
you
answer
that
and
then
I
got
to
follow.
E
A
L
Okay,
thank
you.
This
bill
would
only
address
active
duty,
peace
officers,
not
those
that
are
retired.
L
E
Okay
and
then,
if
I
could
do
a
follow
up,
sir,
I
will
please
you
know
I
I
was
involved
with
as
a
police
commissioner
for
10
years,
and
during
that
time
there
was
a
shooting
incident
and
I
kept
requesting
to
the
chief
to
these
guys
to
get.
You
know
some
kind
of
counseling
who
took
it
one
refused
because
it
was
an
option.
L
E
A
And
thank
you
assemblyman
members,
any
additional
questions.
A
C
You
assemblyman
assemblymember
anderson.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Thank
you
for
bringing
forward
a
timely
and
important
bill.
It
totally
makes
sense
to
me.
My
question
is
more
based
upon
mr
collins.
Testimony
as
well
as
assemblymember
robert's
statements.
C
O
May
I'll
start
and
I'll?
Let
mr
collins
weigh
in
I'll.
I
will
tell
you:
most.
Police
agencies
have
realized
over
the
years
that
this.
This
is
an
issues
and
most
agencies
have
a
police,
employee
assistance
program
so
like
at
my
department
at
metro.
We
we've
had
this
for
probably
30
years,
and
so
you
can
do
self.
You
can
do
referrals.
So
if
somebody
believes
like
quite
often,
if
you
felt
somebody
through
your
own
personal
knowledge
was
having
struggles
at
home
or
on
the
job
or
a
variety
of
things,
you
noticed
some
behavior.
O
You
could
tell
the
police
employees
assistance
program,
they
had
counselors
that
would
reach
out
to
those
those
employees
and
actually
do
it.
Do
a
contact
and
and
to
kind
of
follow
up
on
assemblyman
ellison's
question
is
that
most
police
departments
require
a
psychological
visit,
anytime
you're
involved
in
a
critical
use
of
force,
incident
or
or
any
kind
of
other
critical
incident,
so
that
that
you
at
least
have
that
opportunity
to
talk
to
someone
about
it
and
that
that
we
know
you're
prepared
to
come
back
to
work.
O
So
there
are
a
lot
of
avenues
to
do
that,
but
the
challenge
quite
often
is
a
lot
of
people.
Don't
you
don't
notice
some
of
the
issues?
You
know,
and
you
may
not
get
that
referral
so
this
this
this
one
time
of
year,
would
really
put
you
in
front
of
somebody
for.
O
C
Thank
you,
assemblymember
roberts,
and
also
just
wanted
to
make
a
quick
comment
to
assemblymember
monroe
moreno.
I
hope
that
when
we
have
technology
issues
like
that,
all
of
us
can
handle
it
with
such
dignity.
So
thank
you
very
much.
You
handled
it
very
gracefully.
C
Good
morning,
chair
and
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
ask
a
question
or
two
thank:
I
want
to
thank
both
presenters
assembly
members,
monroe,
mourinho
and
roberts.
My
one
and
only
question
is
I
I
basically
will
be
asking
assemblyman
robert
this
bill.
Have
you
presented
it
to
leadership
and
with
law
enforcement,
meaning
throughout
the
state
of
nevada,
metro
washa,
whether
or
not
they
are?
They
are
excited
about
the
wellness
of
their
police
officers
and
are
behind
this
bill.
O
Actually,
assemblywoman
monroe
has
done
a
lot
of
that
work
and
it
probably
best
for
her
to
answer
that.
L
Thank
you
something
roberts.
This
is
assemblywoman
danielle,
monroe
moreno.
I
have
been
working
on
this
piece
of
legislation
for
a
number
of
months,
and
I've
had
a
number
of
conversations
with
the
various
agencies
within
our
state
and
will
I
say,
they're
excited
about
it.
What
I
have
heard
time
and
time
again
and
you
will
hear
as
they
and
the
testimony
later
and
support
and
opposition-
is
that
almost
everyone-
every
police
chief,
every
sheriff,
every
officer
that
I
spoke
with-
felt
that
yes,
this
was
something
that
was
needed
one.
L
How
are
they
going
to
pay
for
it?
There's
going
to
be
a
fiscal
note
that
every
department
is
going
to
have
because
it
will
impact
their
budget.
The
second
was
from
line
staff.
Will
this
be
used
as
a
tool
against
them?
So,
while
everyone
agrees
that
it's
something
that
we
need,
there's
still
some
hesitation
and
I
hope
that
answers
your
question
at
some
point
in
time.
O
May
weigh
in
as
well
I
apologize
mr
chair,
so
many
police
departments
like
at
metro
after
october
1
and
we
we
contracted
with
local
counselors,
because
we,
our
police,
employee
assistance
program,
was
actually
over
overwhelmed
by
the
number
of
of
contacts.
And
so
we
had
an
additional
insurance
policy
that
allows
for
extra
visits
which
has
been
carried
over,
and
so
many
police
departments
have
those
same
kind
of
policies
in
their
workman's
comp
programs
and
things
like
that,
where
they
they
actually
have
this
counseling.
B
Thank
you,
chair
flores,
for
allowing
the
question,
and
I
I
want
to
echo
all
of
the
sentiments
that
have
already
been
stated
about
this
incredibly
needed
bill,
and
I'm
so
grateful
for
assembly,
woman,
monroe
and
moreno
for
bringing
this
forward,
especially
grateful
for
a
lot
of
the
folks
who
have
testified
in
making
that
connection
between
a
system
that
values
strength,
especially
if
some
of
these
police
officers
require
military
and
changing
that
system
and
removing
that
stigma,
because
mental
health
is
still
health.
B
So
I
appreciate
this
bill
for
that
level
as
well.
I
guess
my
question
is
hearing
that
this
might
be
moved
to
2023
bothered.
You
know
it
hurts
me
just
a
little
bit,
because
these
are.
This
is
about
valuing
the
mental
health
of
the
people
who
protect
and
serve
us,
and
I
think
you
know
helping
these
folks
and
giving
them
more
tools
to
help
them
internally,
as
well
as
all
of
the
tools
we
give
them
externally
to
do
their
job.
B
L
L
Okay,
this
is
assemblywoman
danielle,
monroe
moreno
and
to
address
a
assemblywoman
question.
Yes,
as
mentioned
by
assemblyman
roberts,
there
are
a
number
of
departments
that
are
already
putting
things
in
place
to
help
their
officers
going
as
far
as
hiring
social
workers
to
work
with
their
their
pep
department
to
help
their
employees.
So
there's
there
are
departments
moving
in
this
direction
already
and
by
putting
the
the
date
further
out
will
not
limit
anyone
from
jumping
on
it
right
now.
L
They
could
do
it
tomorrow
if
they
find
the
funding,
but
knowing
that
we
are
coming
out
of
the
covert
pandemic
and
every
city
and
every
department
within
our
state
are
all
hurting
financially.
It
gives
them
that
time
that
they
may
need
if
they
cannot
find
the
resources
by
the
original
date
and
the
original
drafting
of
the
bill.
A
L
A
Perfect
we'll
take
them
in
that
order
and
they
are
joining
us
virtually.
Is
that
correct
assembly
woman?
I.
N
N
Q
Good
morning,
committee
members,
my
name
is
eric
james
e-r-I-c
j
and
I'm
just
calling
to
give
my
support
behind
this
bill,
because
I
think
it's
something
that
is
absolutely
needed
within
our
policing
community,
I'm
currently
the
deputy
chief
of
the
university
of
nevada,
reno
police
department,
nor
the
command
and
part
of
what
we
do
up
there
is
you
all
know
we
have
to
have
a
physical
every
year
to
come
back.
We've
been
saying
for
years
that
something
that
needs
to
be
done
is
to
also
check
the
mental
health
of
our
officers.
Q
We've
all
heard
the
statistics
behind
how
many
officers
die
from
felonious
assault
and
the
scary
thing
is
more
die
from
suicide:
mental
health.
It's
an
absolute
component
physically
mentally
emotionally
and
spiritually
that
we
teach
our
officers
and
that
are
tied
to
the
officers
throughout
northern
nevada,
and
I
think
that
having
this
bill
pass,
people
will
will
find
funding
to
have
this
done,
because
it's
so
very
important.
Thank.
N
E
Thank
you,
chair
flores
and
assemblywoman
manuel
moreno
and
committee
members.
My
name
is
nick
schipec
and
I
c-k-s-h-e-p-a-c
I
am
here
representing
the
aclu
of
nevada.
We
are
in
strong
support
of
this
great
bill
presented
by
the
assembly
woman.
As
we
continue
to
push
for
reforms
in
policing.
We
cannot
lose
sight
of
the
fact
that
police
are
indeed
people
people
with
extremely
difficult
jobs
in
which
trauma
to
be
a
part
of
everyday
life.
E
We
see
mental
health
care
as
an
necessary
step
to
any
sort
of
reform
and
to
ensuring
that
our
police
are
healthy
and
ready
to
do
their
jobs.
This
bill
is
a
great
step
in
that
direction.
E
Ensuring
that
annual
checkups
for
mental
health
will
be
given
to
all
law
officers
throughout
the
state
in
ensuring
that
they
will
receive
any
help
they
need,
keeping
them
safe,
allowing
them
to
return
to
their
families
and
helping
them
to
better
protect
our
communities.
We
hope
you
support
this
spill
even
with
the
physical
note
that
will
be
attached,
as
everyone
in
the
state
will
benefit.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
A
N
Q
I
also
want
to
personally
thank
her
for
her
years
of
public
service
as
a
correctional
officer,
an
often
overlooked
job
that
is
vital
to
the
public
safety
mission
for
a
few
concerns
the
past
couple
weeks
for
what
this
bill
might
do
negatively
going
forward.
But
I
know
what
the
next
officer
suicide
will
do,
so
anything
we
can
do
to
try
and
stop
that
next
suicide
is
something
I
personally
support
and
our
organization
has
expressed
support
for
at
many
of
our
membership
meetings.
Q
Recently
we
need
to
get
our
cops
talking
about
the
monsters
that
haunt
them
and
to
do
it
in
an
environment.
That's
safe
to
do
so.
I
don't
know
what
the
perfect
environment
or
timing
of
it
is,
and
I've
heard
no
one
else
providing
solutions.
So,
at
least
this
bill
is
trying
to
propose
the
environment
and
the
timing,
so
that
we
may
try
and
help
the
people
on
the
front
lines
serving
us
night
and
day.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
N
E
This
is
why
we
encourage
police
to
get
an
annual
physical,
but
mental
health
is
also
important,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
police
officers
stay
mentally
healthy
so
that
they
don't
develop
problems
that
could
ultimately
hurt
the
public
having
an
annual
wellness
visit
is
a
way
to
make
sure
that
both
police
officers
and
the
general
public
remain
safe
and
healthy,
and
so
nacj
supports
it.
Thank
you.
N
C
Good
morning,
chair
flores
and
members
of
the
committee,
this
is
kendra
burchie,
k-e-n-d-r-a
b-e-r-t-s-c-h-y,
with
the
washoe
county
public
defender's
office
on
behalf
of
my
office,
as
well
as
the
clark
county
public
defenders
office.
We
want
to
thank
assembly,
assemblywoman
monroe,
monreal
and
assemblyman
roberts
for
bringing
forward
this
important
piece
of
reform
for
the
criminal
justice
system.
We
support
this
bill
as
part
of
the
reform
measures
that
we
are
trying
to
implement
an
act
this
legislative
session.
I
agree
with
the
statements
that
were
made
before
me.
C
Unfortunately,
in
northern
nevada,
we
have
lost
several
police
officers
due
to
suicide
and
hope
that
this
will
ensure
that
community
members
trust
the
members
of
law
enforcement
when
they
have
interactions
with
them,
but
more
importantly,
benefit
everyone
in
our
community.
So
we
appreciate
this
bill
and
hope
that
you
will
pass
this
legislation.
Thank
you.
N
N
N
E
For
the
record,
my
name
is
jared
luke,
director
of
government
affairs
for
the
city
of
north
las
vegas,
calling
in
support
of
assembly
bill
336.
Thank
you,
chair
flores
vice
chair
torres
and
members
of
the
committee.
I
would
like
to
thank
assembly
members,
monroe,
moreno
and
roberts
for
bringing
this
bill
forward
and
if
I
could
real,
quick,
just
piggyback
off
of
assemblywoman
anderson
and
your
cool
under
pressure
assembly,
monroe
moreno
is.
E
E
E
The
city
of
north
las
vegas
understands
that
the
intent
of
this
bill
is
not
to
penalize
peace
officers
rather
by
combining
with
annual
physical
screenings.
It
aims
to
help
repair
any
unseen
injuries,
if
needed,
to
ensure
peace
officers
can
operate
at
a
safe,
optimal
level,
physically,
mentally
and
emotionally,
both
at
work
and
at
home.
Thank
you,
chair
for
the
time.
N
N
C
C
J-A-M-I-E-R-O-D-R-I-G-U-E-Z,
I
do
want
to
start
by
thanking
assemblywoman
moreno
for
meeting
with
us
yesterday.
Regarding
our
concerns
about
the
bill.
We
are
very
appreciative
of
the
sponsor
agreeing
to
move
the
effective
date
out
so
that
we
can
plan
budget
and
find
some
other
funding
options
to
help
us
offset
those
costs.
We
are
very
much
so
appreciative
of
the
intent
of
the
bill
and
take
mental
health
of
our
employees
very
seriously.
C
We
have
created
a
multitude
of
programs,
including
several
peer
support
programs
in
our
region,
which
we're
actually
sharing
with
some
of
the
counterparts
in
southern
nevada
for
them
to
create
similar
programs
that
we
have
seen
be
very
effective.
C
We
are
concerned
the
concerns
about
the
bill.
Excuse
me
fall
under
peace
officer
and
the
use
of
peace
officer,
which
is
a
little
bit
broad
in
terms
of
who
all
that
applies
to,
and
while
we're
very
appreciative
of
the
need
for
mental
health
services
for
employees
in
some
of
these
positions,
who
do
have
to
deal
with
and
see
things
that
the
rest
of
us
would
not
be
able
to
manage.
C
However,
I
also
do
want
to
put
on
the
record
that
our
fiscal
note
that
was
submitted
is
not
correct.
When
we
had
originally
read
the
bill,
we
made
the
mistake
of
thinking.
Peace
officer
was
just
law
enforcement
and
therefore
the
sheriff's
office
and
did
not
include
the
multiple
other
departments
that
would
be
impacted,
such
as
alternative
sentencing,
juvenile
services
and
some
of
our
district
attorney
investigators.
C
And
we
do
also
appreciate
the
bill
sponsor
taking
out
the
provision
that
requires
the
medical
exam,
because
peace
officer
is
a
little
bit
broad.
Not
all
of
those
individuals
are
required
to
have
an
annual
medical
exam,
and
so
there
was
concerns
about
additional
costs
of
now
requiring
all
of
them
to
have
those
annual
physical
exams.
C
So
we
are
working
with
the
sponsor.
We
are
working
also
to
help
get
a
better
idea
of
what
that
impact
is.
But
what
we
are
hearing
is
the
cost
of
about
200
annually
for
each
peace
officer
and
we're
trying
to
really
determine
exactly
how
many
peace
officers
in
washoe
county
we
have
again.
I
really
do
want
to
thank
assemblywoman
moreno
for
meeting
with
us
listening
to
us
and
understanding
our
concerns.
N
K
C
K
C
C
C
C
C
L
C
C
C
L
A
N
K
D-A-G-N-Y-S-T-A-P-L-E-T-O-N,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
the
nevada
association
of
counties
representing
naco.
Today
we
are
opposed
to
the
bill,
but
want
to
make
it
clear
that
we
are
not
opposed
to
the
policy
or
intent
of
the
bill
and
absolutely
understand
what
is
driving
the
need
for
this
legislation.
N
N
Q
Hello,
mr
chairman,
members
of
the
committee,
this
is
chuck
callaway
c-a-l-l-a-w-a-y.
I
am
the
director
of
intergovernmental
services
for
the
las
vegas
metropolitan
police
department.
This
is
a
very
important
bill
and
we're
here
neutral
today.
Q
Q
If
these
questions
can
be
adequately
answered,
we
will
be
in
full
support
of
the
bill
and
we
look
forward
to
working
with
assemblywoman
monroe
moreno
moving
forward.
So
thank
you
and
be
happy
to
answer
questions
if
there
are
any.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
A
Thank
you
this
time,
we'll
go
to
next
caller
wishing
to
testify
in
the
neutral
position.
N
E
E
I
have
many
many
fun
memories
working
with
them
at
the
detention
center
ndoc
is
very
interested
in
this
legislation.
It's
been
very
helpful.
Listening
into
the
conversation,
I
think
we
understand
its
intent
better.
Like
the
previous
caller,
I'm
wondering
if
the
chair
would
be
willing
to
entertain
a
question.
M
E
Question
we
have
is
the
standards
referred
to
in
the
bill?
Are
those
standards
going
to
be
outlined
in
the
bill,
or
does
each
agency
determine
what
their
standards
are
going
to
be.
N
A
A
We're
trying
to
get
the
assembly
woman
to
to
jump
on.
L
This
is
assemblywoman
danielle,
monroe,
moreno
and
the
caller
is
correct.
It
is
not
decided
in
the
legislation
that
would
be
part
of
the
regulation
process.
That
post
would
do
and
the
reason
it
was
changed
to
the
wellness
visit,
but
to
make
it
more
flexible.
Each
department
has
its
own
unique
situations,
the
amount
of
officers
they
have
and
their
unique
needs.
L
This
gives
post
the
flexibility
that
it
will
need
to
create
those
regulations,
so
that
departments
statewide
can
create
a
program
that's
best
suited
for
their
department,
and
I
hope
that
answers
the
caller's
question.
N
Q
Q
Q
If
it
sounds
good,
it
feels
good,
but
the
implementation
based
off
the
agency
may
not
be
perfect,
we're
here
in
neutral,
because
we
have
these
concerns.
If
there's
a
negative
psyche
val
will
it
be
listed
as
workers
comp?
Will
the
officer
be
allowed
to
continue
working
if
they're
not
allowed
to
continue
to
work?
Will
they
be
compensated
during
that
time?
If
not,
that
could
further
complicate
the
problems.
Q
Currently,
in
my
department,
we
recently
had
an
officer
who
was
diagnosed
with
cancer
less
than
a
year
ago,
and
they
were
called
on
a
thursday
telling
them
that
they
had
to
process
out
on
a
monday
because
their
application
had
been
received
by
pers
for
a
medical
retirement,
even
though
it
was
not
going
to
be
heard
until
the
middle
of
april.
So
will
this
be
treated
like
medical
situations
and
somebody's
going
to
be
pushed
out
because
it's
not
considered
work
related
or
if
it
is
work
related?
Q
One
of
the
things
that
I
think
should
be
stated
is:
is
this
going
to
be
a
voluntary
session?
Is
this
something
that's
going
to
be
a
burden
to
an
individual
department,
a
small
department
like
eureka
that
may
not
have
the
ability
or
the
finances?
I
know,
assemblywoman
monroe
mourinho
is
working
on
some
grants
and
greatly
appreciative
that.
Q
Will
an
officer
be
able
to
just
go
into
one
of
these
assessments
and
just
say:
no,
I'm
good
everything
is
fine
and
that
will
that
will
suffice.
So
with
that,
that's
our
neutral
position.
I
do
want
to
thank
assemblywoman
monroe,
mourinho
and
assemblyman
roberts
for
bringing
this,
and
certainly
my
former
chief
michelle
freeman.
Q
A
L
I
had
a
number
of
conversations,
as
you
heard,
from
the
callers
who
called
in
with
organization
that
called
in
opposition
and
some
that
called
in
neutral,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
a
few
of
the
things
that
they
brought
up.
Will
this
be
an
evaluation,
and
the
answer
is
no.
The
intent
of
the
legislation
is
to
have
a
discussion
and
that
discussion
would
only
be
brought
back
to
the
attention
of
the
department
if
the
officer
in
that
discussion
was
displayed
any
incidents
or
feelings
of
hurting
himself
herself
or
others.
L
L
Yes,
because
it
may
only
be
that
one
time
that
the
officer
during
the
course
of
the
year
gets
an
opportunity
to
talk
to
a
a
behavioral
health
care
specialist
in
the
drafting
of
this
legislation
and
the
stakeholder
group
to
put
the
verbiage
together,
I
had
american
family
therapist
substance,
use,
disorder,
specialist
and
a
number
of
behavioral
health
care
professionals,
and
I
heard
from
line
officers
that
they
wanted
it
to
be
a
diverse
group,
and
that
is
what
I've
been
working
with
to
put
together
a
list
of
professionals
within
our
state
that
police
departments
and
agencies
would
have
readily
available
of
who
they
could
go
to
if
needed.
L
L
Currently
nevada,
post
nevada
process
to
certify
qualifies
are
peace
officers
category
one
two
and
three
peace
officers.
They
have
a
standard
for
continued
education
for
peace
officers
and
that
includes
racial
profiling,
mental
health,
the
well-being
of
officers,
implicit
bias,
recognition,
de-escalation,
human
trafficking
and
firearms.
L
Ab-336
is
the
natural
next
step
in
addressing
and
promoting
officer
wellness.
Will
this
legislation
cost
money?
Yes,
yes,
it
will.
Will
this
legislation
be
an
adjustment
for
police
officers
and
the
agencies
that
they
work
for?
Yes,
it
will.
Will
some
administrators
try
to
use
this
piece
of
legislation
as
a
tool
to
dismiss
an
officer?
L
L
L
It
says
police
reform
because
it
can
change
the
culture
of
our
law
enforcement
community.
It
aids
in
removing
the
stigma
associated
with
mental
health,
and
it
will
go
a
long
way
in
rebuilding
community
trust
and
foster
the
rebuilding
of
relationships
by
passing
ab
336.
We
are
saying
that
nevada's
peace
officers,
emotional
and
mental
health
is
just
as
important
as
their
physical
health.
L
It's
a
priority,
and
it's
a
priority
by
us
saying
that
nevada's
families,
the
communities
in
this
and
our
communities
and
the
families
in
our
communities
and
the
officers
that
serve
those
communities
are
a
priorities,
and
yes,
nevada
may
be
the
first
or
one
of
the
first
states
to
pass
legislation
like
this,
but
we've
been
the
first
in
so
many
other
areas.
So
let's
be
the
first
in
this
one
as
well.
A
Thank
you,
assemblywoman
for
your
passion
and
bringing
forth
so
many
stakeholders
to
this
very
vital
and
important
conversation.
A
A
Of
course,
implementation
will
be
difficult,
we're
engaging
in
the
conversation
where
we're
not
addressing
a
very
serious
concern
for
our
women
and
men
in
law
enforcement,
and
so
for
anybody
to
come
in
to
try
to
derail
and
kill
a
bill,
because
implementation
is
hard
will
not
be
tolerated
by
this
committee.
So
we
look
forward
to
working
with
our
women
and
men
law
enforcement
assemblywoman.
Thank
you
for
working
with
everybody.
I
know
you'll
continue
to
do
so
and
we
hope
to
be
a
partner
with
you
on
this
great
policy.
A
So
with
that
we'll
go
ahead
and
close
out
the
hearing
and
assembly
bill
336,
and
I
need
to
jump
to
a
to
take
care
of
a
bill
that
I
am
working
on,
and
so
I
am
going
to
hand
over
the
virtual
gavel
for
the
next
hearing
to
vice
territories:
rights
territories.
Please.
C
B
B
B
I
am
here
to
present
assembly
bill
313
and
there
is
a
conceptual
amendment.
I
hope
that
you've
all
had
a
chance
to
take
a
look
at
that
loaded
to
nellis
that
I
brought
forward
to
remove
sections
five
and
six.
B
B
I
I'm
here
today
to
present
ab
313,
which
authorizes
electronic
voting
related
to
common
interest
communities.
All
members
of
a
common
interest,
community
association
contribute
financially
to
their
association,
but
but
for
many,
that
is
the
extent
of
their
involvement
in
the
operations
of
the
association.
B
The
bill
is
about
removing
some
of
the
barriers
to
their
participation
in
their
own
association.
Electronic
voting
may
be
the
easiest
way
to
ensure
common
interest.
Community
association
members
are
all
heard
with
me
today
here
to
help
present
as
a
resource
is
miss
laurie
olson.
B
She
she's
an
acquaintance
that
I
belong
to
an
organization
with
and
in
having
a
conversation,
she
brought
to
my
attention
kind
of
the
genesis
for
why
I
agreed
to
carry
this
bill.
I'm
also
mr
garrett,
gordon,
who
is
an
attorney
and
represents
a
variety
of
clients
that
also
include
common
interest
communities
and
also
adam
clarkson,
an
attorney
whose
practice
of
law
is
primarily
dedicated
to
representing
representing
community
associations.
B
B
Yes,
please
go
ahead,
ms
olsen,
if
you
could
go
ahead
good
morning,
I
assume
you
can
hear
me.
B
B
I
first
want
to
thank
assemblywoman
hanson
for
sponsoring
ab313,
we're
very
grateful
for
her
understanding
and
support.
I
previously
served
as
a
community
association
manager
for
six
years
on
site,
seven
years
as
a
portfolio
manager
and
now
have
been
on
site
at
calallen
ranch.
Since
march
of
2012.,
I
have
the
professional
community
association
management
designation
from
community
associations
institute
along
with
the
large-scale
managers
designation.
B
I've
been
facilitating
board
member
elections
in
nevada
for
over
20
years,
with
none
of
the
elections
ever
been
challenged
or
disputed.
The
two
envelope
system,
accompanied
by
a
paper
ballot,
is
antiquated,
as
it
is
time
consuming
and
very
costly
nevada
is
one
of
only
a
few
states
who
does
not
allow
for
online
board
member
elections.
B
B
This
puts
an
even
larger
burden
on
smaller
hoas
they're
forced
to
either
pay
the
management
company
to
compile
and
mail,
their
annual
election
packet
or
mailing
house,
either
way,
they're
charged
with
copies
envelope,
stuffing,
etc,
etc.
Unfortunately,
management
companies
are
not
in
the
business
of
losing
money,
so
their
charges
are
understandably
above
cost,
regardless
of
the
size
of
the
hoa.
Some
management
companies
require
a
printing
or
mailing
house
to
complete
the
annual
election
packet,
so
the
hoa
may
not
have
an
option.
B
B
B
Owners
should
be
offered
the
option
to
vote
online
or
to
request
a
paper
ballot
and
envelopes
from
the
hoa
as
managers.
We
understand
that
everyone
is
not
tech.
Savvy
annual
election
packets
will
still
need
to
be
mailed,
but
they
will
not
contain
a
secret
ballot
or
two
envelopes.
Therefore,
the
printing
copying
collating
stopping
and
mailing
costs
are
expected
to
decrease
exponentially.
B
We
have
mr
gordon
garrett,
gordon
if
he
could
be
allowed
to
walk
through
the
bill
and
and
he'll
do
that
quickly
and
then
also
adam
clarkson
is
on
in
the
zoom
as
well
for
questions.
If
they
could
turn
their
cameras
on
they
might
have.
I
just
can't
see
it
from
here.
S
Thank
you
very
much,
I'm
vice
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record.
My
name
is
garrett,
gordon,
I'm
a
lawyer
at
the
law
firm
of
lewis
roca
today,
representing
cai,
who
is
the
community
association
institute.
S
They
have
over
1700
members
and
we
represent
over
3
000
hoa
communities
in
nevada,
also
for
the
record
today,
representing
southern
highlands,
homeowners
association,
a
10
000
unit
master
plan
community
in
clark
county.
We
just
want
to
first
thank
the
sponsor
asami
woman
hanson
for
bringing
the
bill
and
including
a
few
of
our
sections.
We
really
appreciate
it
and
also
for
the
chair
and
vice
chair
for
hearing
our
bill
today.
S
The
bill
consists
of
really
three
sections
now
that
or
three
topics
now
that
the
insurance
sections
were
removed,
sections
one
through
four
deal
with
electronic
voting.
The
goal
here
is
really
to
make
it
easier
to
vote
in
hoa
elections,
and
certainly
during
a
pandemic
we'd
like
to
try
to
involve
as
many
homeowners
as
possible
in
the
election
process
and
giving
them
the
ability
to
do
it
electronically.
S
We
think
will
hopefully
increase
turnout
in
all
associations
across
the
state.
Then
that's
the
next
section.
Their
topic
is
automatic
payments.
Many
of
us
use
automatic
payments
in
our
daily
lives
to
pay
utility
bills,
to
pay
credit
card
bills
and
for
whatever
reason
in
the
statute,
it's
kind
of
dated
that
ability
for
associations
is
currently
not
there.
S
It
has
been
certainly
burdensome
in
the
times
of
the
pandemic,
to
go
chase
around
a
board
member
or
two
for
signatures
on
on
paper
checks.
We
think
just
being
able
to
automate
that
system
at
the
boards.
The
board's
discretion
is
is
important
and,
finally,
the
third
kind
of
category
or
topic
is
transfer.
What
happens
when
a
hoa
decides
to
transfer
management
companies,
they're
hired
company
a
and
then
decides
to
move
forward,
with
company
b,
what
happens
with
all
the
books
and
records?
S
It's
a
little
bit
ambiguous
currently
in
the
statute
of
there's
a
30-day
requirement
to
turn
over
materials
and
there's
a
little.
It's
called
a
question,
but
when
that
starts,
when
it
ends
and
how
to
efficiently
turn
over
the
files
and
the
books
and
records
when
they
and
and
certainly
includes
sensitive
information,
when
a
new
management
company
is
hired.
S
So
what
we're
proposing
is,
let's
delegate
some
authority
to
the
common
fish
community
commission
to
hold
workshops
with
homeowners
with
management
companies
with
hoas
to
really
get
some
good
community
and
industry
feedback
of
how
that
transition
should
work
then
they
would
codify
or
implement
some
regulations.
So
that's
the
three
real
topics
of
the
bill.
Vice
chair,
taurus,
adam
clarkson,
who
is
a
hoa
attorney
and
was
appointed
to
the
ho
the
state
hoa
task
force.
S
He
helped
draft
the
language
of
the
bill,
which
was
then
sent
to
lcb,
who
did
a
phenomenal
job,
putting
pen
to
paper.
He
can
get
very
technical
if
you'd
like
to
go
through
any
specific
language
or
section
by
section
or
otherwise.
We'll
just
stand
for
questions
and
again
appreciate
everyone's
time
today.
Thank
you.
C
K
Thank
you,
madam
vice
chair.
Thank
you
very
much
for
bringing
this
forward.
As
a
former
president
of
my
homeowners
association
many
many
years
ago,
I
understand
the
complexity
of
the
voting
and
and
how
we
have
to
communicate.
My
I
have
two
questions:
can
the
homeowner
elect
the
preferred
method
or
would
only
one
method
be
available?
K
I
know
then,
my
community,
some
homeowners,
prefer
to
have
mailing
ballots,
the
others
preferred
electronic
or
electronic
payments.
I'm
just
curious
to
know
if
there's
one
set
standard
that
is
expected
or
if
all
of
the
above
can
be
included
and
then
are
there
multiple
languages
that
are
identified
or
recommended
for
homeowners
ballots
and
are
we
communicating
with
people
of
varied
backgrounds.
S
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
question
assembly
member
through
the
vice
chair.
Let
me
take
a
snap
at
that
and
then
I
can
turn
over
to
mr
clarkson
to
get
any
any
specific
details.
But
as
the
bill
is
written,
it's
clearly
voluntary.
It's
up
to
the
board.
They
can
either
opt
in
and
decide
to
choose
to
go
with
the
electronic
voting
route
or
they
can
stick
with
the
paper
route.
It's
really
up
to
them
on
a
case
by
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
T
T
The
genesis
for
a
change
came
from
interest
311,
which
already
allows
for
the
option
of
electronic
or
paper
voting
for
associations,
just
it
just
doesn't
include
elections
or
recalls
which
this
one
expands
to
that
and
to
your
question
about
whether
or
not
these
come
out
in
different
languages.
C
Sir,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
next
day
have
a
someone,
thomas
thank
you
vice
chair
and
thank
you
assemblywoman
hampton
for
this
presentation.
You
know
my
question
actually
is
to
do
with
deal.
L
With
the
voting
as
a.
C
Hoa
homeowner
and
member
my
concern
is
the
security
of
the
ballot.
How
do
you
secure
electronically,
my
secret
ballot,
and
what
program
would
be
designed
to
ensure
that
others
couldn't
hack
into
there
and
you
know,
wipe
out
any
voting
that
I
might
or
others
in
my
hoa
have.
T
On
hey,
this
is
adam
clarkson
I'll.
Take
that
question.
That's
all
right!
Thank
you.
Someone
thomas
the
security
protocols
for
electronic
voting,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
are
currently
under
interest.
116
311.
We
have
electronic
voting
with
everything,
except
for
elections
and
311
really
doesn't
provide
for
security
protocol,
and
when
we
made
this
change,
the
conceptual
change
to
create
this
electron
volume
for
elections
and
removals,
which
the
lcb
did
a
really
good
job
of
putting
in
into
this
document,
into
ab
3
and
3..
T
However,
I
would
know
and
agree
that
it
potentially
could
be
a
a
very
good
amendment
to
this
bill
and
to
add
some
sort
of
requirements
and
add
some
expectations,
whether
it
be
abroad
or
tracking,
some
other
states.
We
could
look
at
some
what
some
of
the
other
states
have
done
with
those,
but
certainly
it's
really
broad
right
now,
which
was
somewhat
intentional
to
allow
every
association
access
to
this.
But
we
understand
your
concerns
and
that
sounds
like
a
potential
good
amendment
to
revise
this
bill.
Thank.
C
C
So
go
to
mr
gordon,
if
you're,
okay,
with
that
someone
thomas
and
then
I
think
you
have
a
follow-up,
but
we
can
answer
that
after
mr
gordon.
S
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much
by
share
and
to
the
assembly
woman
yeah.
I
just
was
going
to
concur
with
mr
clarkson.
A
couple
of
your
colleagues
had
the
same
question
regarding
security,
which
is
obviously
important.
We
there's
21
other
states
who
have
incorporated
electronic
voting.
I'm
sorry
idea
was
to
kind
of
reach
out
to
those
statutes
and
see
what
they've
done.
Certainly,
it's
a
balance
in
that
we
don't
want
to
put
too
many
protocols
or
requirements.
S
What
would
be
very
costly,
so
it
would
kind
of
prohibit
the
ability
for
a
smaller
association
to
comply,
but
certainly
on
the
other
hand,
you
certainly
want
fair
and
private
and
secure
elections.
I'm
also
told
that
there
are
a
number
given.
Other
states
have
already
proved
this.
There's
a
number
of
vendors
out
there
that
hoas
would
use
and
hire
to
run
these
elections
electronically.
S
C
Thank
you
and
I
would
appreciate
the
follow-up
and
vice
chair,
that's
what
I
was
going
to
ask
for
the
data.
Thank
you
thank
you,
assemblywoman,
and
I
think
I
have
next
something
on
anderson,
but
before
we
go
to
assemblywood
anderson,
I
know
I
have
several
new
members
that
are
on
this
call
and
awaiting
additional
floor
training,
and-
and
just
you
know,
I
believe
that
ms
furlong
will
be
sending
out
an
email
for
when
that
training
will
occur,
so
that
you
have
no
need
to
leave
the
meeting
early.
C
If
you
choose
to
stay
all
right,
so
we
have
next
to
someone
anderson
go
ahead.
Thank
you
vice
chair
torrez,
and
thank
you
family
member,
hampton
for
for
joining
us
this
morning
for
the
bill.
My
question
has
to
do
with
it's
on
page
15
and
I
was
trying
to
figure
out
what
subsection
and
stuff.
So
I
think
it's
4.7
d-
and
it's
mentioned
a
few
times-
that
the
counting
of
the
ballots
does
not
require
a
quorum
and
before
when
it
was
a
written
ballot.
C
C
What
are
the
safeguards
to
make
sure
that
there
is
not
somebody
that
just
decides
hey,
I'm
going
to
take
a
look
at
these
now
and
then
turn
around
and
make
sure
that
other
people
know
what
I
I
realize
that
we
need
to
go
by
trust,
but
unfortunately,
without
there
being
the
quorum
or
other
people
present.
What
are
the
safeguards
present
to
make
sure
that
there
is
not
some
early
counting.
T
Vice
chair,
assemblywoman
anderson,
this
is
adam
clarkson
I'll.
Take
that
question.
That's
all
right.
So
for
clarification.
Currently,
there
are
no
quorum
requirements
for
the
elections
or
recalls.
So
a
recall
in
election
does
not
require
a
quorum
at
this
time.
It
just
it
just
like
a
budget
ratification
doesn't
require
a
form
at
a
community
association.
T
They
do,
however,
have
safeguards
in
place
with
the
physical
counting,
the
physical
accounting.
The
ballots
have
to
be
opened
in
front
of
the
members.
So
when
you're
mentioning
safeguards
for
current
current
method,
there's
a
method
there
is
that
requirement
that
they're
not
allowed
to
be
touched
by
anyone,
that's
up
for
election
or
anyone
related
to
them.
They're
also
not
allowed
to
be
opened
up
until
the
meeting
they
have
to
all
be
open
during
the
meetings.
That's
the
opening
of
the
meeting
witnesses
are
present.
T
That
way,
anybody
can
see
that
and
nobody
can
touch
if
they're
involved
with
respect
to
the
electronic
process.
We
have
not
added
particular
safeguards
for
this
again.
That's
this
also
sounds
like
something
that
may
be
a
good
change
for
the
amendment.
The
process
that
we
had
established
right
now
was
that
the
matter
was
going
to
be
read
into
the
record.
T
There
is,
of
course,
the
general
obligation
of
good
faith,
but
putting
in
some
additional
processes,
perhaps
tied
to
how
the
other
states
are
doing
them
could
be
another
edition.
So
this
will
be
another
thing,
we'll
note
to
look
into
with
what
other
states
are
doing,
so
that
folks
aren't
getting
early
access
to
the
election
results
and
a
lot
of
times
I
mean
we
could
look
at.
Maybe
third
parties
handling
them
and
other
things
like
that,
but
certainly
again
another
another
good
suggestion
for
an
amendment
for
this
one.
C
C
I
just
I
thought
I'd
heard
that
from
assemblymember
brown
may's
question,
but
if
you
could
verify
that
it's
up
to
the
board
not
up
to
the
people
that
are
members
of
the
homeowners
association.
T
All
right,
thank
you.
Vice
chair
assembly,
woman
anderson,
this
again,
this
is
adam
clarkson,
the
currently
as
drafted.
It
would
be
discretionary
for
the
board,
whereas
it
is
also
similarly
discretionary
currently
for
any
other
situation
where
they
want
to
use
electronic
or
paper
voting.
We
simply
track
the
language
that
exists
in
universal
16311,
which
does
largely
allow
that
to
be
discretionary.
T
However,
there
are
implicit,
if
not
expressed,
limitations
on
that,
which
are
that
interest.
116
31068
requires
the
association
they
have
to
provide
these
communications
in
a
reasonable
basis,
so
homeowners
have
not
provided
an
electronic
address.
The
board
would
still
have
to
go
with
the
traditional
paper
ballot
because
they
would
not
have
another
option
under
this
section
also.
Similarly,
if
someone
we
mentioned
earlier,
someone
requested
it
potentially,
that
would
be
something
that
would
look
at
so
again.
This
could
be
another
place
where
we
add
some
clarification,
something
in
this
bill.
T
That's
going
to
specify
the
right
for
an
option
for
homeowner
to
get
that
right
for
paper
ballot,
just
so
that
there's
no
debate
in
the
future.
That
could
certainly
be
another
ideal
amendment
for
this.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you,
mr
clarkson,
and
thank
you
vice
chair
taurus
for
the
time.
Thank
you
assemblywoman.
The
next
I
have
on
my
list
is
assembling
constantine.
B
Thank
you
vice
chair
and
thank
you
for
the
gentleman
who
just
spoke.
Thank
you
for
maybe
following
up
with
a
little
bit
more
clarification,
because
when
I
was
reading
that
same
section,
where
it
says
paper
or
electronic,
I
didn't
know
if
that
meant
that
as
a
homeowner,
especially
let's
say
in
some
areas
where
there
are
seniors.
Even
if
the
senior
has
an
email
address,
how
often
do
they
check
it?
Can
they
individually
opt
for
for
a
paper
ballot?
B
Can
somebody
opt
for
paper
ballot,
but
then,
if
they
live
half
the
year
elsewhere,
opt
for
electronic.
Those
were
some
of
the
clarifying
questions
that
I
was
going
to
ask,
but
I
think
those
were
kind
of
asked-
and
you
mentioned
mr
clarkson-
that
may
be
doing
a
little
bit
more
clarification.
B
But
so
my
question
now
is:
I'm
just
a
little
confused
on
page
12,
the
bottom
of
page
12,
starting
at
line
39.
This
is
in
section
3
subsection.
I
guess
9.
an
association
may
conduct
a
vote
without
a
meeting,
including
without
limitation,
a
vote
for
the
election
or
removal
of
a
member
of
the
executive
board.
B
Just
wanted
to
know
one.
Why?
Why
is
that
listed
in
the
the
nrs
section
for
proxy
votes?
I
might
just
be
missing
that,
and
then
is
that
usual
practice
I
mean
it
looks
like
that.
You
know
the
language
that
was
taken
out.
It
says
unless
prohibited
or
limited
by
the
declaration
or
by
laws.
Does
this
mean
that
any
individual
homeowners
association
cannot
now
say?
No,
if
we're
going
to
remove
somebody
by
a
vote
that
may
even
be
electronic,
we
can
remove
them
without
actually
having
a
meeting.
T
Thank
you
vice
chair
and
some
of
the
women
come
tonight.
This
is
again
adam
clarkson,
so
nrs
116
311
is
a
section.
It
addresses
a
a
lot
of
different
issues,
addresses
voting.
It's
titled
voting
by
units
owners,
use
of
state
ballots
and
proxies
voting
by
leases
of
leased
units
association
prohibited
from
voting
as
the
owner
of
the
unit
and
voting
without
a
meeting-
and
I
realized-
that's
not
listed
in
the
actual
document
itself,
but
that
is
if
you
pull
up
nrs
116.
T
That
is
the
title
of
this
section
so
and
we
do
have
a
lot
of
parts.
Nearest
116
are
hidden
all
over
the
place,
as
many
of
you
probably
noticed
if
you
read
it
before
so,
what
we
did
here
is
we
addressed
the
change.
As
I
mentioned,
we
addressed
the
change
in
a
manner
that
was
intended
to
track
the
current
language
with
respect
to
generally
voting
electronically.
T
Now
one
of
the
things
that
we
also
changed
here,
that's
important
and
you've.
Really
you
dialed
into
this
issue,
which
is
we
changed
the
right
to
do
it?
We
basically
flipped
it
to
where
there
was
a
dis.
There
was
a
limitation,
so
an
association's
declaration
or
bylaws
could
have
restricted
the
manner
in
which
an
association
was
able
to
do
electronic
vote
and
we
have
associations.
T
I
have
clients
that
are
as
old
as
they've
had
association
since
1925.,
so
some
of
their
original
declarations
and
bylaws
don't
really
contemplate
electronic
voting,
as
you
would
imagine,
so
we
basically
made
it
to
where
any
association
here
in
nevada
would
be
able
to
take
advantage
of
this
statute
and
they
would
be
able
to
utilize
it.
So
it's
pushing
this
to
where
it's
giving
an
option
for
all
associations,
regardless
of
what
their
governing
documents
provide.
T
S
And
vice
chair,
if
I
may
yeah
go
ahead,
mr
gordon
yeah.
Thank
you
again
assembly,
a
woman
for
the
question
again
garrett,
gordon
for
the
record,
so
just
wanted
to
make
the
record
clear
number
one.
The
board
can
opt
in
to
electronic
voting
and
even
if
they
opt
in
and
choose
that
that
method,
any
homeowner
can
opt
into
still
a
written
ballot.
S
So
just
because
the
board
says
we're
going
electronic
voting,
a
homeowner
who
doesn't
have
an
email
address
or
doesn't
want
to
move
forward
with
electronic
voting
and
always
request
a
paper
ballot
and
we're
going
to
clean
up
that
or
clarify
that
that
language,
because
you
and
a
couple
of
your
colleagues
have
that
same
comment
for
clarification,
so
really
appreciate
that
input
and
two
the
question
you
mentioned
about
no
meeting
or
removal
of
a
board
member
that
that
is
current
law.
But
you're.
Absolutely
right.
S
There
seems
to
may
be
a
missing
link
there
with
regards
to
having
a
meeting
and
having
a
discussion
about
about
why
a
board
member
would
be
removed
again.
A
number
a
couple
of
your
colleagues
had
the
same
issue
and
said:
while
we
have
this
statute
open,
maybe
we
put
in
there
the
right
to
request
a
meeting
if
they
feel
like
they
shouldn't
be
removed
and
want
to
make
their
case
for
not
being
removed.
So
in
our
kind
of
conceptual
amendment,
we're
thinking
through
we're
going
to
address
that
issue.
S
B
And
I
know
that
might
not
be
part
of
this,
but
it
was
just
a
thought.
Thank
you.
T
Thank
you
vice
chair
associated
woman.
This
is
adam
clarkson.
Thank
you
for
the
question
the
currently
under
chapter
82,
which
applies
where
enrichment
16
is
silent.
Community
associations
are
allowed
to
have
their
meetings
electronically,
so
our
nevada
community
associations
have
during
cove,
been
running
meetings
through
zoom
and
through
other
platforms.
They
do.
However,
meetings
are:
are
private
they're?
T
Not
public
meetings
like
this
meeting,
so
they
are
directing
them
through
manners,
so
folks
are
getting
logins
just
like
they
get
logins
for
this
meeting,
they're
getting
logins
through
their
community
association
association,
sending
out
the
notice
and
sending
them
the
contact
information,
because
they're
not
in
a
position
to
just
to
live
stream
them
say,
for
example,
through
youtube
or
another,
fully
accessible
portion,
because
it
that
goes
out
broadly
and
team
associations
are
private,
non-profit
corporations,
so
they
are
keeping
their
business
closed
in
house.
T
So
that's
so,
but
that
is
a
great
idea
and
it
is
something
that
is
generally
available
now.
Thank.
B
You
thank
you
very
much
and
I
know
I've
used
the
word
streaming,
but
I
did
kind
of
mean
exactly
how
you
set
a
closed
meeting,
but
if
we're
talking
about
access
and
we're
talking
about
folks
ability
to
vote,
I'm
all
for
making
voting
easier
and
for
everybody
to
be
able
to
to
participate.
So
thank
you
for
that.
It's
good
to
know.
C
A
J
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
just
wanted
a
quick
comment.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
the
committee
members,
especially
assemblywoman
thomas,
for
the
really
good
line
of
questioning
regarding
ballot
security
and
also
appreciate
the
answers
for
mr
gordon,
mr
clarkson.
Obviously,
election
integrity,
ballot
security,
whether
it's
an
election
for
hoa
or
for
political
office,
very,
very
crucial,
so
I
just
wanted
to
say
how
much
I
appreciated
that.
Thank
you.
K
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Thank
you
just
one
follow-up
from
earlier
and
if
you
don't
mind,
I'm
just
going
to
paint
a
very
quick
picture.
K
K
There
were
multiple
languages
as,
as
I
stated,
and
so
as
the
president
of
the
board,
we
worked
really
really
hard
to
make
sure
that
all
of
our
homeowners
were
engaged
in
that
process,
and
so
thanks
for
hearing
us
as
we
talk
about
options
for
people
to
be
able
to
opt
in,
I
think
that
giving
the
homeowners
the
opportunity
to
tell
us
how
they
want
to
receive
their
ballots
is
going
to
be
the
most
important.
K
But
then
I'd
also
like
to
throw
in
there
perhaps
including
an
option
for
a
homeowner
to
identify
a
language
that
is
beneficial
to
themselves.
That
would
be
another
consideration.
I
just
want
to
throw
that
out
there
for
for
people
to
consider.
As
we've
looked
at
amending
this
document,
thank
you
very
much.
A
S
Thank
you
and
good
to
see
you,
mr
mr
chairman,
thank
you
for
the
question
assemblywoman.
I
think
that's
a
great
idea.
It's
been
mentioned
a
couple
times
in
this
hearing,
so
in
our
conceptual
amendment,
we'll
look
at
the
language,
opt-in
and
see
if
we
can't
craft
something
that's
agreeable
to
the
committee,
so
thank
you.
A
N
N
A
Thank
you
at
this
time,
I'd
like
to
go
to
those
wishing
to
testify
in
opposition
to
assembly
bill
313.
N
J
Good
morning,
my
name
is
mike
kozar
k-o-s-o-r,
I'm
calling
in
opposition
to
ab-313,
but
to
be
clear.
I
am
in
favor
and
appreciate
legislation
that
would
make
it
easier
for
homeowners
to
access
and
be
involved
in
their
community
and
reduce
costs,
which
I
believe
when
properly
constructed.
Ab313
may,
in
fact,
do,
however,
currently
as
written
the
bill
is
not
ready
for
prime
time
and
I
believe,
based
on
the
questions
provided
by
this
committee.
J
There
are
a
number
of
issues
that
still
remain
and
need
to
be
addressed
before
this
bill
moves
forward.
Security
is
certainly
high
on
the
list
how
it
is
administered
and
by
whom
and
under
what
rules,
and
whether
it's
discretionary
for
the
board
or
not
obviously
needs
to
be
addressed,
and
then
I
would
be
real
cautious
about
this
bill
as
written,
would
override
the
ccnr's
and
require
homeowners
to
actually
opt
into
a
process
again,
another
one
that
needs
to
be
considered
very
closely.
J
N
Q
Good
morning,
chairman
flores
assembly
and
some
of
them
lemon
hampton,
my
name
is
charvez,
fuller,
spell
c-h-a-r-v-e-z
last
name
over
f-o-g-e-r
and
I'm
the
ombudsman
representing
the
battle
real
estate,
division,
common
interest
communities
and
condominium
hotels.
I
just
have
a
couple
things.
Q
A
O
B
Thank
you,
chair,
flores
and
I'll
make
it
quick.
I
know
you've
had
a
long
morning.
Thank
you,
chair
and
vice
chair
torres
for
this
hearing,
and
certainly
we
know,
and
we've
been
down
this
path
before
that
when
you
bring
an
hoa
bill.
It's
it's
a
collaborative
effort
and
I
I
have
made
note
and
very
encouraged
by
the
comments
and
the
suggestions
for
amending
from
assembly
woman,
thomas
on
the
security
issues
from
assemblywoman
constandine
on
the
board
member
having
the
option
to
be
available
for
removal
and
also
assemblywoman
brown
may's
request,
perhaps
to
identify
languages.
B
So
thank
you
so
much
for
your
input.
This
is
how
we
get
good
legislation
and
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
and
look
forward
to
your
support
when
we
can
get
there
with
a
win-win
for
those
who
live
in
hoa
communities
and
for
those
who
need
to
streamline
their
processes
in
the
in
the
hoa
community
associations.
A
Thank
you,
members
for
those
of
you
who
are
in
your
first
term.
I
know
that
you
are
all
being
summoned
down
to
the
floor
for
your
legislative
training,
members
of
the
public,
we're
going
to
go
to
public
comment,
but
don't
take
them,
leaving
as
a
sign
of
disrespect
as
they
have
to
go
and
address
the
requirements
of
some
training
that
they
have
to
take
care
of.
So
thank
you,
members.
A
If
we
can,
at
this
time
go
to
public
comment
broadcast,
please
I
want
to
remind
those
of
you,
I'm
sorry,
those
of
you
calling
him
for
public
comment.
I
just
want
to
remind
you
that
this
is
not
the
time
to
reopen
the
hearing.
This
is
the
time
for
you
to
talk
about
general
matters
that
fall
within
the
general
purview
of
this
committee.
I
will
encourage
you
and
wish
for
you
to
speak,
but
please
do
not
try
to
reopen
a
hearing
broadcast.
Please.
N
N
J
Yes,
once
again
good
morning,
my
name
is
mike
kozar
kosor.
I
am
a
long-time
board
member
of
an
hoa.
J
The
discussion
earlier
of
ab313
was
that
it
be
opened
up
and
potentially
addressed
some
other
issues
within
the
area
of
hoa
116..
J
One
in
particular
that
comes
to
mind
is
the
issue
that
I
would
wish
this
committee
would
look
at.
Is
the
long-standing
controversial
issue
about
when
major
contracts
of
an
hoa
are
to
be
bid
out.
The
language
in
116
remains
very
vague.
There
is
a
nred
opinion
back
in
september
11,
which
tries
to
define
what,
when
practical
means
and
what
it
means.
J
However,
if
you
talk
to
the
various
hoa
attorneys
they're
all
over
the
map
as
to
when
it
is
required
or
not
and
most
importantly,
when
a
board
elects
on
the
rare
occasion
they
do
not
to
follow
and
not
bid
out
major
contracts,
then
it
is
very
difficult
to
hold
them
accountable.
I
wish
this
committee
would
look
at
potentially
showing
up
the
language
of
that
and
also
that
in
nac
116
405,
when
it
deals
with
the
the
ish
bidding
out
major
contracts
of
hoa.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
A
And
thank
you
we'll
go
to
the
next
caller
for
public
comment.
N
K
A-N-N-E-M-A-R-I-E-G-R-A-N-T
my
brother,
thomas
purdy,
like
george
floyd,
was
affixiated
by
police,
reno,
police
and
washoe
county
sheriff's
office
during
a
mental
health
crisis,
as
he
pleaded.
Please
guys.
Please
don't
do
this.
The
officers
thought
enough
to
get
a
handheld
video
camera,
but
not
to
call
an
ambulance
for
my
brother,
who
was
in
clear
medical
distress.
K
Three
years
ago
today,
march
31st
2018
21
year
old,
nicholas
savannah,
was
shot
by
reno
police
officer.
Christopher
rose
nicholas
was
unarmed
d.a
chris
hicks
did
not
release
his
report,
justifying
the
shooting
until
9
11
2020,
that's
two
and
a
half
years
later
that
family
had
to
wait
for
any
type
of
information,
because
when
your
loved
one
is
killed
by
police,
it's
a
blue
wall
of
silence
that
you
encounter.
E
K
Heart
goes
out
to
victims
of
police
murder
and
anybody
killed
unjustifiably
by
another
human
being,
and
people
need
to
recognize
that
my
family
are
victims
just
as
much
as
those
who
are
killed
by
somebody
not
wearing
a
badge.
If
anything,
we
need
to
hold
police
officers
wearing
a
badge
to
a
higher
standard.
If
perhaps,
if
there
were
consequences
like
jail
time,
they
would
think
twice
about
acting
recklessly
negligently
like
they
did
with
my
brother.
As
you
heard
today,
law
enforcement
are
a
danger
to
themselves
when
they're
mental
welfare
is
not
in
check
now.
K
Imagine
them
armed
and
legally
legally
able
to
kill,
without
consequence
officer,
ryan
patterson
killed,
micaiah
lee
105
2020.
shortly
before
that
he
killed
community
member
jose
dominguez
5
4
28
19.
Perhaps
if
he
hadn't
been
dumped
right
back
on
the
street
after
his
paid
vacation
of
probably
a
week.
If
that
and
got
some
mental
health
care,
mikaya
might
be
alive.
K
A
Thank
you
for
calling
in
next
caller
wishing
to
call
and
excuse
me
for
public
comment.
A
Thank
you
members.
I
appreciate
the
dialogue
today,
as
you
saw,
the
hearings
are
getting
progressively
longer,
so
I
don't
know
that
our
start
time
will
continue
to
work
unless
we
start
limiting
the
amount
of
questions
to
one
question
per
member
on
each
hearing,
so
that
we
could
allow
for
the
flow
of
the
hearing
to
go
a
little
bit
better
and
also
limiting
the
amount
of
presenters,
perhaps
on
the
back
end
of
it.
A
But
we
will
definitively
for
sure
go
monday
at
9.
00
am
and
then
we
may
have
to
change
the
start
times
for
the
rest
of
the
week.
After
that,
I
want
to
remind
you
that
tomorrow
we're
going
to
hear
somebody
builds
2
assembly,
bill,
325
and
assembly
bill
365,
give
yourself
an
opportunity
to
read
those
bills
ahead
of
the
hearing
and
today
in
honor
of
cesar
chavezte,
I'd
like
to
adjourn
in
honor
of
his
legacy
and
his
work
for
the
hard-working
folk
in
this
country
and
everything
he
represents
and
bringing
folk
together.