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A
C
B
E
A
And
I
am
here
and
all
our
members
are
present.
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
accommodations
of
starting
a
little
early.
We
are
at
that
time
of
the
session
where
things
are
going
to
get
a
little
crazy.
So,
on
thursday
we
will
start
at
our
regular
committee
time,
but
both
next
tuesday
and
thursday.
We
will
start
at
1pm
and
we
will
have
a
special
meeting
on
friday,
the
9th
just
for
a
work
session
to
make
sure
that
we
get
as
much
work
as
we
can
finished
to
get
them
out
of
our
committee
and
time.
A
So
members,
you
can
make
adjustments
to
your
calendars
and
those
that
are
following
us,
virtually
you'll
know
what's
coming
up
for
the
next
week
today
we
will
be
hearing
two
bill
drafts
and
both
of
the
bills
are
going
to
be
presented
by
our
vice
chair.
Vice
chair
watts,
we'll
start
with
assembly
bill
349,
and
I
will
invite
the
assemblyman
to
the
floor.
The
floor
is
yours:
with
your
co-presenters
for
assembly,
build
349.
D
D
D
I'm
glad
to
be
joined
today
by
tom
knox
of
valley
can,
and
mr
knox
will
present.
I
think,
an
interesting
case
study
for
everyone.
After
I
give
my
initial
remarks
and
a
brief
overview
of
the
bill
itself
before
I
go
into
the
components
of
the
bill,
I
want
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
background
about
why
reducing
vehicle
pollution
is
important.
D
The
american
alum
association's
state
of
the
air
report
routinely
gives
clark,
washoe
and
lyon
counties
failing
grades
for
smog,
pollution
and
ranks
our
metro.
Some
of
the
dirtiest
in
the
country
smog
is
closely
linked
to
vehicle
emissions
and
it's
also
a
risk
factor
for
asthma,
copd,
cancer
and
even
cognitive
decline.
D
D
According
to
the
latest,
greenhouse
gas
inventory,
compiled
by
the
nevada
division
of
environmental
protection
for
us
to
meet
our
goals
of
reducing
and
eliminating
these
emissions
over
the
next
30
years,
and
we
have
set
a
policy
goal
to
reach
net
zero
emissions
by
2050.
We
have
to
take
action
right
now
to
transform
our
transportation
systems.
D
It's
also
worth
noting
that
the
higher
temperatures
that
are
contributed
by
climate
change
are
also
linked
to
the
formation
of
smog
and
that
other
impacts
of
climate
change,
including
excessive
heat,
are
also
felt
first
and
foremost
by
historically
marginalized
communities.
D
D
D
In
short,
the
goal
is
to
tune
up
our
smog
check,
system
and
and
reduce
emissions
in
our
state,
and
the
bottom
line
of
the
outcomes
that
this
bill
is
seeking
is
improved:
health,
environmental
and
financial
outcomes
and
a
reduction
of
historical
disparities.
D
Each
section
deals
with
a
different
plate,
classic
rod
classic
vehicle
and
old
timer
section
two
deals
with
street
rods
which
were
built
before
1949,
but
that
should
not
have
been
included
in
the
bill.
So
we're
going
to
be
modifying
that
these
other
designations
have
a
rolling
basis
of
a
model
year,
2025
or
40
model
years
old
or
older.
D
However,
after
the
laws
were
last
modified
in
2011,
the
hope
was
that
we
would
keep
our
our
policy
to
support
those
vehicles
which
there
were
about
that
were
registered
with
those
designations
in
about
2011.,
to
try
and
make
sure
that
those
plates
are
only
eligible
for
classic
vehicles.
D
A
5
000
mile,
a
year
limit
was
put
on
to
exclude
daily
drivers
our
everyday
commute
and
work
vehicles,
unfortunately,
that
five
thousand
dollar
five
thousand
mile
a
year
requirement
is
self-reported
and
there's
a
lack
of
capacity
for
additional
enforcement
and
that
quickly
led
to
an
explosion
in
the
numbers
of
these
plates
from
a
fairly
steady
5
000
to
more
than
32
000
registrations.
Today
over
the
span
of
the
last
decade,
and
why
is
that?
D
Well,
one
of
the
draws
to
this
program
has
been
the
fact
that
vehicles
with
these
designations
are
exempt
from
annual
smog
checks,
and
I
think
I
can
speak
for
many
members
of
the
public
who
I've
gotten
emails
from,
as
well
as
many
of
the
members
of
this
committee,
when
I
common
now
to
see
vehicles
that
are
clearly
used
for
daily
commutes,
either
as
as
commuter
vehicles
or
work
vehicles
that
sport,
these
classic
designation
plates
ab349,
looks
to
close
these
loopholes
by
clarifying
that
any
vehicle
getting
a
one
of
these
classic
plates
should
specifically
be
for
occasional
driving
and
special
events.
D
In
addition,
they
must
annually
pay
to
the
dmv
a
fee
equal
to
what
they
contribute
from
a
smart
check
to
support
emissions
reduction
programs
and
I'll
go
a
little
bit
more
into
into
those
programs
shortly.
D
So
that's
how
we're
looking
to
close
the
classic
car
loophole,
section,
six,
seven
and
eight
of
the
bill
modernize
our
smog
check
system
itself
in
the
research
and
I've
been
I've
been
working
on
this
policy
idea.
For
for
many
months
now,
and
in
conversations
with
the
industry,
I
learned
that
if
a
technician
works
for
a
company
with
multiple
stations,
they
must
be
licensed
to
work
at
each
individual
station.
D
Section.
Six
and
seven
are
aimed
to
streamline
that
so
that
once
licensed
the
technician
can
station,
I
also
met
with
heat
subsidiary
of
parsons
that
has
developed
emission
detection
and
reporting
or
edar
technology,
while
they're
not
co-presenting
with
me.
I
believe,
you'll
hear
from
them
in
support
today.
D
D
Section
9
of
the
bill
changes
the
exemption
for
new
vehicles
to
get
smog
from
the
first
two
years
of
the
vehicle's
life
to
the
first
four
years.
A
little
bit
of
background
on
this
in
2015,
the
legislature
passed
ab-146.
Originally
a
proposal
to
modify
our
smog
fees
and
inspection
schedule.
The
bill
instead
led
to
an
in-depth
study
of
our
emissions
program.
D
The
study
suggested
a
four-year
exemption
period
for
new
vehicles,
followed
by
biennial
or
biannual
testing
through
the
vehicle's
10th
year.
Other
states
do
have
biennial
testing
for
the
sake
of
simplicity.
This
bill
only
includes
the
four-year
exemption
and
the
study
also
I'll
note
called
for
closing
the
classic
car
loophole,
and
it
was
really
this
report
that
started
my
work
on
ab349.
D
One
thing
I'll
note
really
briefly
here,
you'll
hear
from
some
folks
in
the
industry
who
have
concerns
about
this,
and
I
appreciate
them
bringing
to
me
those
to
me
as
I
am
going
to
make
a
few
changes,
mostly
technical
in
nature,
to
the
bill.
I
will
be
considering
a
potential
modification
to
the
the
to
the
additional
two
years
and
just
to
be
clear
right
now,
a
new
vehicle
is
exempt
from
a
smog
for
the
first
two
years
under
this
proposal
in
ab349,
it
would
be
the
first
four
years
as
written
section.
D
9
also
makes
a
change
to
the
smog
waiver
program.
If
you
invest
in
repairs
to
your
vehicle
and
it
still
fails
a
smog
check,
you
can
receive
a
one-year
waiver
from
the
dmv
now
clark
and
washoe
counties.
Each
have
different
amounts
set
in
regulation
that
have
to
be
spent
on
a
repair
in
order
to
qualify
for
the
waiver.
If,
if
you
still
cannot
pass
an
admissions
check,
this
bill
as
written,
would
require
that
repairs
be
conducted
at
a
licensed
facility.
D
D
I
I
realize
that
we
want
to
support
the
right
to
repair,
so
I'm
intending
to
amend
this
to
allow
people
to
make
their
own
repairs
if
they
have
the
the
skills
and
ability
to
do
so,
because,
once
those
repairs
are
made,
a
vehicle
still
has
to
be
brought
into
the
dmv
for
inspection
and
sign
off
that
they
were
made
properly
before
a
waiver
could
be
issued,
and
I
appreciate
folks
for
bringing
that
to
my
attention.
D
D
As
I
noted
before,
lower
income
communities
disproportionately
suffer
from
poor
air
quality.
Their
economic
situation
often
pushes
them
to
pursue
classic
plates
as
the
least
expensive
option
to
get
by
which,
aside
from
the
pollution
impacts,
leaves
folks
with
vehicles
that
are
more
expensive
to
fuel
more
expensive
to
maintain
pushing
folks
out
of
those
designations.
D
D
G
You
chair,
and
members
and
big
thanks
to
vice
chair
watts,
for
a
very
thoughtful
approach.
This
very
important
issue-
I'm
tom
knox,
I'm
with
valley,
clean
air,
now
we're
nonprofit
based
in
california,
san
joaquin
valley,
the
region
with
some
of
the
worst
air
quality
and
most
severe
poverty
in
the
united
states.
G
We
developed
the
tune
in
tune
up
small
repair
program,
which
is
funded
by
the
valley,
air,
san
joaquin
valley,
air
pollution
control
district
to
encourage
low-income
drivers
to
voluntarily
repair
their
older
high-polluting
cars.
The
program
is
open
to
anyone
who
needs
small
repairs
and
drives
in
the
san
joaquin
valley.
It's
very
open
and
inclusive,
very
community
driven
pre-covid.
We
held
an
event
every
other
saturday,
where
up
to
500
households
would
show
up
to
qualify
for
an
850
voucher,
which
is
enough
to
fund
complete
small
repairs
on
most
vehicles,
post
covid.
G
G
G
The
valley,
air
district
will
spend
nine
million
dollars
on
tune
in
tune
up
this
fiscal
year
will
issue
22,
000
vouchers.
These
will
be
redeemed
for
inspection,
repairs
and
smog,
certification
for
15
000
cars,
resulting
in
at
least
100
tons
of
reductions
in
co,
hc
and
nox
emissions.
G
G
Since
2012,
more
than
91
000
households
have
access
to
an
intune
up.
90
of
them
are
likely
low-income
families.
96
of
them
live
within
a
zip
code
designated
by
the
state
of
california
as
a
disadvantaged
community.
So
this
funding
is
going
exactly
where
it's
needed
to
to
really
help.
Folks
drive
clean
and
save
money.
G
The
valley
air
district
funds
tune
in
tune
up
via
proceeds
from
an
enhanced
vehicle
registration
fee
that
was
enacted
by
the
state
legislature
to
give
the
valley
air
district
more
tools
to
address
this
severe
air
quality
challenges
in
the
air
basin
smog.
Repairs
are
a
great
short-term
fix,
but
the
real
long-term
solution
is
to
scrap
these
older
dirty
cars
and
replace
them
with
affordable
used
zero
emission
vehicles,
starting
in
2015.
G
The
clean
cars
for
all
program
has
offered
low-income
drivers,
a
9
500
down
payment
incentive
to
replace
their
older
cars
with
used,
plug-in
vehicles
which
are
commonly
available
for
less
than
fifteen
thousand
dollars
so
to
re,
replace
the
dirtiest
cars
with
the
cleanest
most
reliable
cars
does
provide
an
immediate
benefit
to
working
families
and
clean
cars
for
all
has
replaced
more
than
3
000
cars
in
the
san
joaquin
valley
over
the
past
six
years,
using
revenue
from
california's
carbon
auctions.
G
The
success
of
both
of
these
small
production
programs
is
due
in
large
part,
to
a
constant
process
of
community
engagement
in
the
neighborhoods
that
most
need
the
help
throughout
the
san
joaquin
valley.
Since
these
programs
depend
on
voluntary
adoption,
we
focus
on
on
providing
intensive,
commute
customer
support
to
build
trust
among
our
target
audience,
and
that
trust
is.
It
is
the
fuel
that
keeps
the
program
going
and
brings
in
the
folks
who
most
need
the
help.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
today.
D
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
knox,
for
providing
that
example
and
that's
exactly
what
we're
trying
to
do
here
now.
I
know
that
we
have
resource
challenges
in
this
state
and
we
do
not
have,
for
example,
the
the
carbon
auctions
that
mr
knox
mentioned,
but
I
believe,
and
and
have
talked
with
local
air
quality
officials.
D
We
could
stand
up
a
program,
even
a
pilot
program,
so
that
we
can
begin
delivering
some
of
this
targeted
to
relief
to
the
folks
who
need
it
most,
and
I
think
the
sooner
that
we
are
able
to
do
that
and
and
get
it
set
up
and
underway.
D
Hopefully
we
can
mobilize
federal
resources
either
from
the
relief
that's
already
been
passed
or
potential
additional
infrastructure
investments
to
to
build
it
up
and
use
this
again
as
a
way
to
provide
climate
benefits
to
provide
health
benefits,
but
also
truly
to
address
issues
of
of
equity
and
provide
relief
to
the
communities
that
need
it
the
most.
D
So
it
has
been
done
that
we
do
have
blueprints
for
how
this
can
work
and
and
how
we
can
engage
local
government
and
community
members
together
to
develop
something
that
really
provides
an
outstanding
benefit
to
to
all
in
our
community.
So
with
that,
that
concludes
my
presentation
and
I
am
happy
to
stand
for
any
questions
that
you
may
have
and
I'm
sure
mr
knox
will
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have
specifically
about
the
programs
in
the
san
joaquin
valley.
A
Thank
you
so
much
vice
chair
watts,
for
the
presentation
and
mr
knox
for
joining
us.
We
do
have
a
list
of
members
with
questions
and
we
will
start
with
assembling
a.
A
D
C
Okay,
I'm
sorry
I
didn't
hear
because
it
was
a
buzz
went
over
the
speaker,
mr
watts.
I
got
some
questions
on
the
classic
autos,
the
classic
autos
that
you
were
talking
about
were
the
ones
that
take.
You
know
the
the
special
license
plates.
You
know
like
hot
august
nights
and
stuff,
but
those
that
that
have
high
insurance
on
their
cars,
like
there's
still
classic
auto,
but
they're
still
high
dollar
license
plates
and
they're
personal
they're
like
what
their
names
on
it,
not
not
a
club.
C
This
kind
of
thing,
so
would
they
be
into
this
section
one
through
four
see
like
I,
I
rebuild
cars
and
you're
talking
a
65
000
car
versus
you
know
a
smaller
one
or
whatever,
but
we
all
have
personal
license
plates
on
our
cars
like
a
year
and
that's
usually
the
main
things
we
do
so
can
you
define?
My
first
question:
is
that
does
that
fall
into
this.
D
Thank
you
for
the
question
that
someone
allison
howard
watched
the
record,
so
there's
a
few
different
categories
that
we
need
to
talk
about
right,
there's
personalized
license
plates
which
are
customized
with
you
know,
letters
or
numbers.
As
you
noted,
then
there
are
specialty
license
plates,
there's
a
wide
range
of
those
from
supporting
the
golden
knights
to
recognizing
you
know,
firefighters
and
first
responders,
supporting
non-profits,
etc.
D
So
the
sections
in
the
bill
in
one
through
four
deal
with
specific
types
of
specialty
plates
and
those
are
the
classic
plates
called
classic
cars
classic
rods
and
old
timers
classic
cars
have
to
be
at
least
25
model
years
old
or
older,
classic
rods,
20
years
or
older
old,
timers,
40
years
or
older.
Now
there
are
other
classic
designations,
as
well,
like
I
said,
there's
street
rods
which
are
1949
or
earlier
there's
antique
trucks,
there's
several
others,
but
those
generally
are
they're
set
at
a
specific
year
and
are
truly
vintage
vehicles.
D
What
we're
looking
at
are
these
vehicles
that
have
this
rolling
basis
where
every
year
more
more
model
years
are
added
to
what
can
qualify
now,
if,
whether
you
get
a
personalized
classic
plate
or
a
regular
classic
plate,
the
provisions
of
those
sections
would
apply
to
you,
but
if
you're,
just
getting
a,
if
you
get
a
wildlife
plate
or
a
golden
knights
plate
or
a
regular
home
means
nevada
plate
and
get
it
personalized
with
the
gear
or
any
other
information
you
want
on
there.
D
C
Okay,
okay,
so
thank
you
and
and
then
the
other
thing
you
hit
in
here
is
you're
talking
about
the
mission
control
you're
300
miles
from
the
closest
place
that
even
does
these
in
nevada.
So
the
only
place
to
do
mission
control
is
like
washoe
vegas,
this
kind
of
stuff
these
cars
get
drove.
Maybe
at
the
most
in
our
districts
like
like
us,
it
may
be
three
cars
shows
a
year
within
20
30
miles.
C
So
that's
it
because
the
rest
time
they're
they're
in
garages
because
of
the
weather,
so
we
don't
even
make
that
500
miles
or
whatever
it
is
5
000
miles
a
year,
so
we
probably
do
maybe
150
miles
a
year
on
one
of
them
cars
and
classic
cars,
so
they
wouldn't
qualify
into
this
area
of
the
5
000
miles
at
all.
But
the
thing
of
it
is
the
mission.
D
Thank
you
for
the
question
of
someone
else
in
howard
watts,
the
record
you
bring
up
a
great
point,
which
is
that
we
only
have
a
smog
check
system
in
clark
and
washoe
counties.
Rural
communities
do
not
have
they
did
not
get
into
non-attainment
for
air
quality,
so
they
did
not
have
to
have
the
missions
check
systems
in
place.
This
bill
doesn't
change
that
at
all.
I
know
there
are
some
people
that
would
like
to
have
smog
checks
throughout
the
state.
D
This
doesn't
change
that
at
all
and
if
you
look
through
the
sections
one
through
four
of
the
bill,
I
specifically
did
not
look
to
address
this
issue
by
requiring
all
classic
vehicles
to
get
smog
checks.
Now
they
do
contribute
to
the
fund
that
deals
with
emissions
control
and
there's
already
some
provisions
related
to
that
that
exist
right
now,
when
you
first
get
one,
you
pay
a
fee
that
goes
into
that
pollution
control
account,
but
it
does
not
require
getting
a
smog
check
and
that
would
not
change
under
this.
D
So
what
I've
learned
in
my
conversations
with
folks
in
the
classic
car
and
hobby
community
is
that
it's
extremely
common,
I
won't
say
universal,
but
extremely
common
for
folks
that
are
putting
that
investment
into
their
vehicles
to
have
that
kind
of
coverage,
and
it's
also
very
difficult
and
unlikely
for
somebody
who
has
basically
just
a
commuter
vehicle,
that's
20
years
old,
to
get
that
coverage
as
well.
So
that's
why
we're
using
that
insurance
requirement
as
a
way
to
close
the
loophole
on
this
program
so
that
the
five
or
six
thousand
true
classic
vehicles?
D
Basically
can
continue
business
as
usual
and
and
know
that,
there's
honestly,
a
little
bit
of
prestige
restored
to
the
plate,
because
the
only
cars
that
are
gonna
have
it
are.
Are
the
true
vehicles
that
that
folks
have
invested
their
time
and
resources
into.
C
The
last
one
I
have
is-
and
you
were
talking
about
the
the
smog
going
up,
but
in
washoe
in
vegas
they
every
car
has
to
be
checked,
so
is,
is
the
smog
going
up
or
going
down,
even
with
all
the
the
checks
that
they
do
seem
like
to
me?
They're
really
doing
a
good
job
at
keeping
control
of
the
smog
controls
on
these
vehicles,
but
is?
Is
the
smog
still
going
up
or
is
it
going
down.
D
Thank
you
for
the
question
of
someone
when
allison
how's
for
the
record
a
couple
of
points
to
that
from
historical
heights.
In
the
1970s
before
the
clean
air
acts
came
into
effect,
we've
certainly
seen
pollution
levels
decrease.
D
That
said,
we
have
continually
ratcheted
up
our
standards
for
clean
air
to
try
and
get
these
pollution
levels
down
to
where
no
one
is
at
risk
of
negative
impacts.
For
that
also,
some
of
the
reports
that
I
reference,
compare
clark
and
washoe
counties
and
their
air
quality
to
other
metropolitan
areas
throughout
the
country,
and
so,
while
we're
not
the
worst
and
while
we've
seen
improvement,
we
still
have
days
where
air
quality
is
dangerously
unhealthy
and
we
still
have
work
to
do
in
in
reducing
our
emissions.
D
So
you
know
that's
that's
what
I
would
say
is
we
have
made
some
historical
progress,
but
we
still
have
pollution
and
there's
a
couple
of
factors
to
that.
We
continue
to
have
more
people
coming
in
and
putting
more
vehicles
on
the
roads
and
we're
also
seeing
the
average
amount
of
miles
driven
going
up.
So
those
factors
are
counteracting
the
fact
that
in
general,
newer
vehicles
are
more
efficient
and
are
putting
out
less
pollution.
So
those
are
there's
a
lot
of
different
factors
at
play
in
pollution.
That's
coming
from
our
vehicles.
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
The
senator
and
ellison
asked
my
question
about
the
population
cap
and
thank
you
for
making
sure
that
the
rurals
are
that
rules
are
not
changed
in
the
rurals
so
because,
as
the
assemblyman
said,
it's
just
impossible
to
get
one
smog
down
here,
but
the
other
question
I
have
is
on
the
5
000
mile
reporting
when
these
specialty
plates
originally
came
out.
That
was
all
self-reported.
H
I
get
that
and
you
know
anyone
could
say
they
drove
it
under
5
000
miles,
but
I
don't
believe
you
had
to
put
an
actual
mileage
down
so
now
with
the
new
regulations
that
came
in
under
oh,
I
forget
the
number
we
did
in
this
committee
here
with
the
where
you
have
to
report
your
mileage.
Every
time
you
get
your
new
registration.
H
D
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Assemblyman
wheeler,
howard
watts,
for
the
record,
I
believe,
you're
talking
about
the
mileage
data
collection
program,
the
pilot
that
that
we
implemented
last
session,
there's
a
couple
of
pieces
for
that
again,
the
data
varies.
Some
of
it
is
still
self-reported
when
folks
aren't
getting
emissions
checks
for
various
reasons.
D
If
they're
and
a
classic
vehicle
is
actually
a
good
example,
because
they're
not
going
to
get
their
vehicles
smogged,
so
the
way
that
they
contribute
information
into
that
pilot
program
would
be
to
self-report
it,
and
so
it
goes
back
to
the
same
situation
that
we
have
right
now,
where
it's
essentially
numbers
being
put
down
and
and
then
it
would
be
up
to
the
dmv
to
try
and
go
out,
and
do
you
know,
physical
inspection,
to
make
sure
that
the
numbers
on
the
vehicle
match
up
with
the
numbers
that
have
been
reported
on
the
form.
D
You
know
also
again,
with
the
the
differences
between
the
urban
smog
check
systems
and
the
lack
of
those
in
rural
communities.
There's
a
difference
in
how
mileage
are
being
collected
and
and
sent
in
at
emissions
check
stations
versus
what's
being
self-reported
as
part
of
that
pilot,
so,
instead
of
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
effectively
police
all
of
those
self-reporting
forms,
this
bill
essentially
proposes
to
have
insurers
serve
as
kind
of
the
enforcement
mechanism.
H
Thank
you.
Well
that
extra
you
know
duties
of
the
insurers.
Do
you
see
any
or
forecast
any
raise
in
rates
because
of
that.
D
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Assemblyman
wheeler
howard
watts
to
the
record:
no,
because
these
classic
vehicle
policies
already
there
are
in
fact
some
insurers
that
specialize
in
providing
classic
vehicle
insurance
itself.
D
Hagerty
is
one
there's
several,
and
so
they
already
have
their
requirements
and
their
process
laid
out
as
well
as
their
rates
and
and,
as
I
said
in
for
the
true
hobbyists,
in
fact,
it
can
be
beneficial
because
the
insurer
knows
how
infrequently
the
vehicle
is
actually
out
and
about
and
could
be
subject
to
damage
or,
or
you
know,
issues
that
would
result
in
a
claim,
and
so
once
going
through
that
process,
the
insurance
is
often
preferable
for
hobbyists,
because
the
premiums
are
are
better
than
what
you
get
otherwise,
and
you
also
know
what
the
benefit
is.
D
If
something
happens
because
there's
an
appraisal,
so
the
insurance
companies
already
have
that
process
in
place.
So
separate
policies
and
kind
of
a
separate
pool
and
again
our
classic
vehicles
are
already
in
there.
So
if
someone
is
unable
to
qualify
for
that
coverage,
they're
going
to
have
to
just
stick
with
the
current
coverage
that
they
have.
J
Thank
you,
ma'am
chair
and
thanks
for
the
presentation
for
the
bill
today,
a
couple
questions.
If,
if
I
may
that
the
first
one
is
that
you
know,
I
noticed,
there's
a
obviously
an
increase
to
the
individual
fees
for
the
smog,
but
the
same
time
you're,
reducing
the
the
the
years,
your
four-year
grace
period
for
new
new
vehicles
and
then
every
two
years
after
so
in
reality,
I
guess
my
question
is:
is
that
really
it
would
be
almost
less
for
somebody
with
a
newer
car?
Is
that
correct.
D
Yes,
that
is
correct,
although
I
will
just
note
for
the
record
that
there
is
no
biennial
testing
schedule
proposed
in
this
bill,
so
we're
taking
the
existing
two
year
and
under
the
bill
as
written
moving
it
to
a
four
year
exemption
for
brand
new
vehicles
and
again
the
reasoning
for
that
was
to
try
and
provide
a
little
bit
of
consumer
relief,
because
these
new
vehicles
are
much
less
likely
to
develop
problems
that
lead
to
failing
a
smog
check,
and
so
that
frees
up
millions
of
dollars
in
consumer
spending
that
can
be
used
on
something
else.
D
D
One
thing
I'm
considering
is
changing
the
additional
two
years
to
an
additional
one
year,
so
it
would
just
be
the
first
three
model
years
that
would
be
exempt
instead
of
the
first
four
again,
I
I'm
going
to
be
working
on
an
amendment
with
some
of
those
changes
and
we'll
make
sure
to
circulate
it
to
all
the
members
for
your
consideration
once
it's
done,
but
I
think
that
would
potentially
strike
a
balance
between
recognizing
that
if
your
vehicle
is
three
years
old,
the
chances
of
failing
a
smog
are
very
low.
D
So
why
are
we
gonna
make
you
get
one
and
unless
you
spend
that
money
elsewhere
with
the
fact
that
it
is
providing
benefits,
particularly
to
people
who
can
afford
to
acquire
newer
vehicles?
So
thanks
for
bringing
that
up.
J
I
was
getting
kind
of
excited
that
I
was
only
going
to
have
to
smog
my
bronco
every
two
years,
but
by
anyway
I
I
appreciate
the
amendment
and
then
my
my
last
question
would
be
on
the
remote
testing,
and
so
I
think
that's
very
innovative.
I
mean
we
need
to
leverage
as
much
of
that
technology
as
we
can.
I
know
there's
several
companies
out
there,
so
I
applaud
you.
I
applaud
you
for
that.
My
question
would
be.
J
I
know
this
is
only
enabling
language,
but
maybe
you
know
you've
had
talks
with
company,
is
you'd,
be
able
to
sign
up
and
and
pay
the
fee
for
the
annual
smog.
Would
that
be
the
same
as
what
I
pay
at
a
remote
sensing
place?
You
know
like
so
now
I
drive
it's
25
or
20
something
dollars,
and
then
six
dollars
goes
to
the
state.
Would
it
be
an
equivalent
charge
or
would
it
just
be
a
smaller
fee
and
the
fee
that
goes
to
the
state?
Do
you
know
what
that
would
look
like.
D
D
The
provisions
of
this
bill
ensure
that
the
the
state
portion
remains
the
same,
no
matter
what
option
people
use-
and
you
know
I
appreciate
you
noting
how
innovative
and
beneficial
this
technology
could
be,
and
essentially
the
company
would
deploy
that
technology
on
the
hunch
that
people
would
enjoy
the
the
convenience
that
that
option
would
provide,
and
so
they
would
do
that
without
any
need
for
capital
investment
from
from
the
government,
the
state
or
local
government-
and
you
know,
one
of
the
ways
that
they
could
recoup.
D
That
is
a
potential
convenience
fee,
so
it
may
cost.
You
say
20
dollars
to
get
a
traditional
smog
check,
but
you
could
opt
into
this
system
for,
say
thirty
dollars,
and
you
know
that
if
you're
driving
on,
for
example,
I-15
you're
gonna
have
a
something
that's
detecting
your
emissions
and
if
you
drive
through
it
in
kind
of
this
30-day
window,
you're
going
to
be
all
set,
you
don't
have
to
do
anything.
D
You'll
get
a
notification
that
you're
that
your
results
have
come
in,
so
it
could
be
a
little
bit
more
in
exchange
for
the
convenience,
but
that
would
be
set
up
in
the
rule-making
process
between
the
dmv
and
any
potential
company
wishing
to
offer
that
service,
and
I
will
say
again
that
it
would
be
completely
optional.
D
So
if
people
want
to
maintain
doing
things,
the
way
they've
always
done
it,
they
can,
and
the
idea
would
be
that
this
is
another
option
that
people
can
use
and
then
we
would
gather
all
the
general
data
on
emissions
that
are
coming
as
a
result,
and
I
believe
we'll
have
some
folks
that
can
provide
a
little
bit
of
additional
details
on
that
in
support.
Testimony.
D
J
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
answers
and
thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
the
questions.
K
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
vice
chair
watts,
for
bringing
this
bill.
You
were
talking
about.
I've
only
been
working
on
it
for
a
couple
of
months,
but
I
remember
talking
about
this
issue
last
session
and
I
think
that
it's
it's
it's
really
much
needed
to
address
the
issues
that
we
see
in
our
state,
particularly
in
our
urban
areas.
K
Now
I
appreciate,
I
think
the
most
about
this
bill
is
your
thoughtfulness
to
the
communities,
who
would
be
most
adversely
impacted
by
the
modifications
and
changes
to
these
rules,
and
I
wanted
to
ask
you
a
little
bit
about
the
repair
replace
program
and
whether
that
would
have
an
effect
of
forcing
people
to
buy
new
cars.
K
If
you
could
just
just
go
into
that
a
little
bit
and
then
I
will
have
one
more
follow-up
related
to
the
voucher
program.
If
that's
okay,
chair.
D
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
question.
Assemble
in
peters,
howard
watched
the
record,
and
yes,
I
probably
underplayed
the
amount
of
time
that
I've
been
working
on
this.
I
believe
I
checked
my
email
recently
and
I
had
conversations
with
mr
knox
to
learn
about
what
was
going
on
in
san
joaquin
in
may
of
last
year.
D
So
it's
been
quite
some
time
that
I've
been
I've,
been
trying
to
work
on
and
fine-tune
this
proposal
to
your
question
just
to
reinforce
this
would
be
a
completely
voluntary
program,
that's
how
it
exists
in
in
other
places,
so
we
would
want
to,
and
we
would
partner
with
community
organizations
to
get
the
word
out
so
that
people
know
that
this
is
available
and
that
we're
getting
the
message
to
the
communities
that
need
it
most.
But
ultimately
this
would
be
a
voluntary
program,
no
one's
forcing
you
to
get
rid
of
your
car.
D
What
we'd
be
providing
is
support
in
two
areas.
One,
if
you
love
your
car,
but
you
can't
get
it
fixed,
so
it
can
pass
smog.
We'd
essentially
provide
a
coupon,
so
you
can
get
that
repair
made
without
it
worsening
your
economic
situation
and
the
reason
that
we
do.
That
is
because
we
know
it
brings
really
important
emissions
benefits
that
are,
that
are
a
priority
for
for
kind
of
our
public
policy.
D
The
other
thing
that
it
does
is
provide
a
voluntary
incentive
to
help
you
afford
that
upfront
cost
to
get
a
vehicle,
and
what
we
know
is
that
the
maintenance
and
fueling
costs
of
especially
electric
vehicles,
but
also
more
efficient
vehicles
in
general,
are
so
much
lower,
so
that
once
we
can
help
people
cross
that
initial
barrier
of
being
able
to
afford
the
down
payment
and
and
get
the
price
down
to
a
point
where
it's
manageable
with
payments
and
things.
D
They
then
see
the
financial
benefits
on
day
one
without
having
any
kind
of
payback
period
and,
as
mr
knox
noted,
there
are
increasing
and-
and
we
hope
to
get
as
many
electric
vehicles
that
are
getting
deployed.
So
there's
a
strong
used
market
and
these
incentives
are
particularly
powerful
with
used
vehicles.
K
Thank
you.
If
I
may
follow
up
chair
go
ahead,
thank
you.
Yeah
and
the
the
lifespan
of
an
electric
vehicle
can
be
enormous.
I
I
know
I've
shared
with
a
couple
of
folks
that
my
boss
bought
a
a
hybrid
vehicle
and
it
had
200
000
miles
on
it
before
he
had
to
replace
the
battery
pack
spent
that
extra
bit
of
money,
which
was
less
than
a
transmission,
a
new
transmission
and
the
car,
is
still
going,
and
his
son
is
now
the
second
owner
of
that
vehicle.
K
So
there's
an
immense
amount
of
life
span
in
these
vehicles
that
we,
I
think,
because
of
generally
generationally,
where
we
are
in
them,
we
haven't
explored
the
full
extent
of
their
lifetime
on
the
road.
My
second
question
has
to
do
with
the
in
other
incentives
available
for
purchasing,
evs
or
adopting
evs
and
and
how
that
would
how
those
would
be
affected
by
the
voucher
program.
Can
you
talk
about
that
relationship?
A
little
bit.
D
Certainly,
thank
you
for
the
question.
Assemblywoman
peters
howard
watts,
for
the
record,
so
they
stack,
which
is
great,
and
if
you
look
at
the
state
climate
strategy,
one
of
the
things
that
it
emphasized
was
the
need
to
provide
so-called
cash
on
the
hood
so
that
when
you're
making
that
transaction,
you
have
something
that
can
be
applied
to
lower
the
cost
of
again
the
down
payment.
D
Those
closing
costs
the
upfront
barriers
to
getting
into
a
payment
plan,
getting
your
payments
to
a
reasonable
place,
and
that's
exactly
what
the
this
proposal
is
aiming
to
create.
Is
that
that
upfront,
cash
on
the
hood
program.
Another
well-known
incentive
is
the
federal
tax
credit
related
to
electric
vehicles
that
provides
up
to
7
500.
K
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that.
That's.
That
is
great.
It's
one
of
those.
I
think
that
real
arguments
we've
been
hearing
around
the
electric
vehicle
adoptions
is
that
really
the
barrier
to
entry
for
both
the
market
supply
and
the
market
demand
is
that
cash
on
the
hood
issue,
so
you
reach
both
of
those
in
this
bill,
and
I
really
appreciate
appreciate
the
thoughtfulness.
L
Thank
you,
chairman
moreno,
and
thank
you,
assemblyman
watts
for
a
lovely
presentation,
wonderful
information
and
a
very
thoughtful
bill.
I
do
have
a
couple
of
questions
and
I'm
going
to
take
this
from
two
quick
questions
on
the
consumer
side,
and
then
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
on
the
business
side
on
the
consumer
side.
Were
you
talking
about
the
san
joaquin
valley
program,
which
is
where
my
mom
lives
modesto
lodi,
all
those
areas
out
there?
L
I
am
curious
as
to
how
many
times
in
the
nevada
program
you
can
fail
before
you're.
No
longer
able
to
you
know,
fail
your
emissions
before
you
can
no
longer
come
back
to
get
an
extension,
and
the
second
question
would
be
if
we
were
able
to
institute
this
program
and
people
were
able
to
get
this
money
for
a
new
car
to
put
up
cash
on.
L
The
hood
is
what
you
said:
would
they
have
to
use
it
for
an
electric
or
hybrid
vehicle,
or
would
they
be
able
to
use
it
on
a
lesser
ghg
emitting
gas
vehicle?
Because
we've
talked
about
this
before
in
in
in
the
communities
that
I
serve?
L
This
may
be
a
barrier
even
putting
nine
thousand
dollars
on
a
vehicle,
whether
or
not
people
are
able
to
or
even
choose
to,
depending
on
their
income
status
and
their
income
limitations
want
to
take
on
loans.
So
if
you
could
answer
that
first
and
then
I
have
another
question.
D
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
question.
Assemblyman
summers,
armstrong
howard
watch
for
the
record,
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
to
mr
knox.
I
believe
he
has
to
leave
briefly,
but
he
could
or
shortly,
but
he
could
speak
a
little
bit
to
the
the
replacement
options
that
are
available
in
the
san
joaquin
program.
G
Sure
so
the
state
of
california
offers
the
clean
cars
for
all
program
where
it
it
has
graduated
incentives
based
on
the
vehicle
technology.
G
So
when
there's
funding
available,
that
starts
at
four
thousand
dollars
for
a
standard
gas
powered
vehicle
with
up
to
ninety
five
hundred
dollars
for
a
used,
plug-in
vehicle
and
then
there's
a
seven
thousand
dollar
option
for
a
hybrid
car.
G
We
found
that
that
low
income
people
really
gravitate
toward
these
plug-in
vehicles
based
on
the
incentive,
and
then
they
find
that
these
plug-in
vehicles
are
the
most
affordable
to
operate
as
well,
so
that
there
there's
really
a
multiplying
value
when
you
get
into
the
used
plug-in
vehicles,
especially
when
you
look
at
in
general,
the
prices
of
used
vehicles
have
been
steadily
increasing
over
the
last
10
years,
but
the
last
year,
especially
with
covet
and
the
only
types
of
used
vehicles
that
I've
been
able
to
find
that
have
actually
been
dropping
in
price
since
cobit
hit
are
the
most
common
types
of
used,
plug-in
vehicles.
G
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
knox,
and
again
howard
watts
to
the
record.
I
would
just
like
to
reiterate
a
couple
of
things.
One
is
that
this
bill
doesn't
spell
out
the
exact
details
of
how
the
program
would
set
be
set
up,
we're
looking
to
provide
the
the
seed
for
it
for
it
to
start,
and
then
the
local
governments
would
figure
out
the
details
of
how
they
would
want
these
programs
to
operate
so
they'd
be
able
to
figure
out
what
income
qualifications
to
use,
how
they
would
like
to
tier
the
program
as
mr
knox
described.
D
So
you
can
essentially
meet
people
where
they're
at
by
providing
different
levels,
for
you
know,
and
you
can
figure
out
what
model
year,
for
example,
does
a
vehicle?
How
old
does
it
have
to
be
before
it
can
get
replaced?
Then
you
can
figure
out.
Okay.
If
you
get
a
gas
vehicle,
it
has
to
be
model
year
x
or
newer,
and
then
you
know
if
you
want
to
get
a
a
hybrid
and
you
can
set
different
amounts
of
funding
to
help
support
people
with
whatever
choice
they
make
so
that
they
have
those
choices.
D
Another
thing
that
I'll
note
that's
really
starting
to
pick
up.
Popularity
is
e-bikes,
so
electronic
electric-powered
bikes,
which
are
you
know,
I
mean
one
or
a
couple
thousand
dollars.
So
an
incentive,
that's
lower
in
comparison,
500
or
a
thousand
dollars
can
make
that
extremely
accessible
to
people
and
depending
on
people's
mobility
situation,
it
can
really
help
people
get
around.
Now.
Look
I'm
from
southern
nevada.
I
know
how
hot
it
is,
and
even
zooming
around
on
an
electric
bike
might
not
be
preferred.
D
But
the
point
is,
you
could
set
different
incentive
levels
for
different
transportation
options
to
meet
people
where
they're
at.
L
Thank
you
for
that
assemblyman
watts
and
mr
knox.
I
do
appreciate
that
I
will
make
one
comment
and
then
I'll
have
my
final
question,
and
my
comment
would
be
that
I
would
agree
with
those
who
are
asking
you
to
only
suspend
registration
for
the
first
three
years
and
the
reason
I
suggest
that
is
because
it
would
allow
a
little
bit
more
money
to
go
into
the
program
from
those
who
can
probably
afford
it
to
help
more
people.
L
You
know
just
to
boost
up
the
the
dollar
amount
of
this
new
program,
but
my
next
question
would
be
to
the
folks
who
run
these
independent
smog
locations.
I
have
one
in
my
neighborhood.
I
go
to
this
gentleman
every
single
year
he's
a
single
operator
and
the
fee
changes
are
significant
and
I
think
that
what
we're
going
to
see
is
with
these
significant
changes
in
the
fee
structure
six
times
the
amount
they're
paying
25
to
150.
L
Something
else
was,
you
know,
significant
changes
that
we're
probably
going
to
see
increases
in
our
yearly
registration
or
smog,
smog
fees
and
just
wondering
you
know
how
you
came
up
with
these
numbers.
Did
you
have
a
chance
to
talk
to
if
there's
a
group
that
represents
these
independent
small
businesses?
L
You
know
we
have
small
businesses
but
we're
trying
to
to
keep
our
small
businesses
in
our
community
and
I'm
just
concerned
that
these
fee
increases
could
you
know
adversely
affect
our
small
businesses
and,
and
did
you
have
a
chance
to
talk
to
them
about
these
speed
changes?
Thank
you.
D
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Assemblywoman
summers,
armstrong
for
the
record,
howard
watts.
First
of
all,
I
know
that
I
didn't
mention
address
your
very
first
question
about
smog,
failure,
practices
and
I
believe
the
dmv
will
be
on
and
will
provide
testimony
in
neutral
and
they
would
probably
be
best
to
handle
all
the
different
possibilities
for
what
happens
when
a
vehicle
fails
smog.
D
D
If
you
fail
the
smog
to
keep
you
from
jumping
right
into
a
classic
vehicle
plate
if
you're
eligible,
but
people,
if
that's
the
the
only
option
they
can
afford
they'll
risk
a
term
on
an
expired
registration
or
we'll
try
and
get
temporary
moving
permits
in
the
in
between
time,
so
that
they
can
jump
over
to
that
classic
plate
and
folks
that
know
about
this
advise
those
as
options.
So
I
just
wanted
to
to
put
that
out.
D
There
and
I'd
encourage
you
to
follow
up
with
the
dmv
if
you
want
us
some
additional
details
on
that
to
your
comment
about
the
three
years.
I
appreciate
that,
and,
and
certainly
considering,
and
will
likely
include,
that
in
an
adjustment
to
the
bill
to
your
last
point
about
engagement
with
the
industry.
Yes,
in
fact,
I
had
I've
had
ongoing
conversations
with
folks
in
the
industry
you're
going
to
hear
them
they're
in
opposition,
primarily
to
the
issue
that
I
just
discussed
and
that
you
brought
up
in
your
comment.
D
So
we've
been
talking
for
some
time
and
had
another
conversation
this
morning,
you'll
hear
from
them
shortly
in
opposition,
but
are
working
to
try
and
balance
this
out.
You
know
the
provisions
that
I
included
to
make
sure
that
techs
can
travel
to
different
locations
without
having
to
pay
for
a
license.
Each
time
is
something
that
we
did
to
to
work
with
the
industry.
Getting
some
of
these
vehicles
that
are
currently
using
plastic
vehicles
back
into
the
smog
system
is
something
that
benefits
the
industry
as
well.
D
D
D
Nevada's
rates
are
pretty
low
for
for
our
admissions
checks,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
I
put
that
out
there,
but
it
is
something
that
I'm
aware
of,
but
again
I
think
it's
the
opportunity
to
have
everybody
contribute
to
a
program
that
would
deliver
benefits
to
the
people
that
are
most
in
need
and
to
the
other
point
of
the
fee
for
the
licensing
of
an
inspection
station.
I
haven't
heard
too
much
on
that.
D
You
know
I
don't
know
too
many
people
that
have
an
annual
margin
of
125
dollars
in
profit
from
their
facility,
but
I'm
open
to
to
making
some
adjustments
as
well
and
again,
with
the
suggestion
you
brought
forward.
I
think
we
could
we
can
make
a
little
bit
of
adjustment
while
trying
to
maximize
the
resources
that
would
come
in
and
benefit
those
most
in.
A
Mr
knox,
I
do
have
a
question
for
you
and
you
may
have
touched
upon
this
in
your
presentation.
You
had
said
that
a
lot
of
the
lower
income
communities
were
doing
the
trade-off
for
the
electric
plug-in
vehicles.
Were
there
any
accommodations
made
for
their
homes
to
accommodate
that
plug-in?
Because
no
one
can
you
expand
upon
that
sure.
G
So
one
really
helpful
policy
move
that
california's
made
is
to
dedicate
a
certain
amount
of
our
carbon
revenue
to
disadvantaged
communities,
to
make
sure
that
the
benefits
of
the
carbon
cap
and
trade
system
would
go
to
benefit
the
areas
that
are
in
the
greatest
need,
and
so
the
vehicle
replacement
program,
clean
cars
for
all
is
limited
to
disadvantaged
communities
and,
and
so
it
lets
us
really
focus
on
the
needs
of
low-income
families
and
then,
in
terms
of
home
electric
vehicle
charging.
G
There
is
also
an
incentive
of
two
thousand
dollars
included
with
the
sale
of
every
every
plug-in
vehicle
through
the
program,
which
is
good
for
installation
of
home
ev
chargers.
In
most
cases
where
there
isn't
a
service
panel
replacement
needed
so
75
to
80
of
the
homes
were
able
to
install
home
ev
charger
with
the
available.
Instead
of.
D
Also,
thank
you
very
much,
mr
knox,
howard
watts
to
the
record
I'd
just
like
to
add.
I
believe
we
do
have
some
incentives
for
charging
infrastructure
in
place
here
in
nevada
through
the
utility.
Also.
D
I
do
know
that
we
have
a
colleague
in
the
the
other
house,
who's
working
on
some
legislation
that
will
involve
significant
investments
in
electric
vehicle
infrastructure,
including
public
infrastructure,
to
assist
folks
who
may
be
in
multi-family
units
or
have
other
barriers
to
charging
at
home
to
make
sure
that
if
this
is
an
option
that
they
want
to
take
advantage
of,
that
they'll
have
the
ability
to
get
the
charging
that
they
need
to
make
it
a
reality.
A
F
F
E
C-I-N-T-H-I-A-M-O-O-R-E-
and
I
am
the
national
lead
for
ecco
foreign
clean
air
force
today,
I'm
calling
in
strong
support
of
ab349
on
behalf
of
our
over
8
000
members
in
nevada
ab349
helps
improve
public
health.
The
american
lung
association's
2020
state
of
the
air
report
ranked
las
vegas
number
nine
in
the
nation
for
ground
ozone.
Pollution
naming
vehicle
emissions
as
the
primary
cause
of
unhealthy
air
dates
in
2019
las
vegas
ranked
number
13,
which
means
we
continue
to
climb
on
yet
another
bad
list.
E
E
Efforts
to
improve
our
air
quality
are
particularly
particularly
important
to
me
as
the
mother
of
a
three-year-old
who
has
had
breathing
problems
and
the
parents
of
36
000
children
who
have
asthma
in
clark
county.
I
applaud
assemblyman
walks
for
including
a
funding
source
for
county
programs
that
would
help
low-income
nevadans
repair
vehicles
that
sail
small
checks
or
help
them
replace
those
vehicles
with
newer
cleaners
point
the
governor's
state
climate
strategy
sets
goals
are
reducing
emissions
by
20
by
2025
and
45
by
2030..
We
are
currently
behind
in
achieving
this
goal.
E
F
H
Good
afternoon,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record,
this
is
andrew,
mckay
a-n-d-r-e-w
m-a-c-k-a-y,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
the
nevada
franchise,
auto
dealers
association.
I
would
like
to
begin
by
thanking
assemblyman
watts
for
bringing
this
bill
to
your
committee
for
consideration.
H
Our
association
wholeheartedly
supports
the
measure,
and
hopefully
you
guys
will
agree
with
the
policy
that
is
proposed
by
by
mr
watts,
as
he
alluded
to
in
the
following:
the
2015
legislative
session.
The
advisory
committee
on
the
control
of
emissions
commonly
referred
to
exam
committee,
conducted
an
extensive
study
and
analysis
of
the
state's
emissions
testing
program
and,
quite
frankly,
we're
very
pleased
that
mr
watts
has
accepted
many
of
the
recommendations,
or
I
shouldn't
say
accepted.
H
Pardon
me
is
proposing
that
you
guys
accept
and
implement
many
of
the
recommendations
of
the
study
that
was
conducted
by
the
am
committee.
This
was
a
very
intensive
process,
the
framework
surgeon
right.
They
held
approximately
20
meetings
over
a
period
of
oh
about
a
year
and
a
half
it
involved.
H
An
extensive
number
of
stakeholders
and
folks
from
disparate
industries
and
the
end
product
actually
was
something
that
was
pretty
impressive.
Those
folks
did
a
tremendous
job
when
you
look
in
terms
of
the
classic
car
exemption
that
is
quite
low
hanging.
Fruit,
mr
watts,
I
think,
discussed
this
even
going
back
as
recently
or
as
long
as
three
years
ago.
H
Included
in
this
report
is-
and
I
was
just
looking
through
it-
to
give
you
an
example
of
the
abuse.
That's
out
there
there's
picture
of
a
a
landscape
truck
with
a
la
with
a
classic
plate
on
it.
Belching
smoke
there's
a
car.
I
I
swear
that
it
must
have
been
part
of
the
streets
of
san
francisco
from
the
1970s
driven
by
karl
malden.
H
It
looks
like
one
of
those
that's
beat
up,
it's
belching
smoke
and
yep,
as
you
can
imagine,
it
has
a
classic
vehicle
plate
on
it,
and
this
is
going
to
address
those
issues.
I
we
have
zero
doubt
about
it
as
many
of
our
members
as
you
guys
are
aware
of
their
classic
car
fiction
autos,
and
they
truly
believe
that
what
mr
watts
is
doing
is
going
to
have
a
definitive.
C
H
I'll
I'll
get
in
30
seconds
with
respect
to
the
change
in
the
frequency
on
new
vehicles,
we
fully
support,
what's
drafted
just
by
way
of
reference.
The
average
exemption
age
for
new
vehicles
for
the
first
emissions
test
in
the
western
us
is
four
and
a
half
years
and
frankly,
the
fail
rate
on
these
vehicles
is
less
than
one
percent.
I
know
I'm
out
of
time.
Madam
chair
again,
thank
you
for
the
time
and
members
of
the
committee,
and
we
encourage
your
passage
of
this
measure.
F
M
M
I
have
long
been
a
strong
supporter
of
clean
energy
and
policies
that
protect
nevadans
health
and
financial
well-being.
I
do
my
best
to
lead
by
example.
Our
church
is
one
of
the
first
black
churches
in
southern
nevada
to
be
powered
by
solar
energy.
I
am
also
a
proud
owner
of
an
electric
vehicle
which
is
a
hyundai
ioniq,
so
I
know
the
health
and
economic
benefits
of
clean
energy
technologies
firsthand.
I
also
know
how
these
options
can
be
out
of
reach
for
many
of
our
communities,
with
our
specific
programs
to
help
them.
M
No
child
or
community
leader
should
suffer
when
this
cause
is
entirely
preventable.
Ab349
will
go
a
long
way
in
getting
some
of
the
worst
polluting
cars
off
the
roads
and
out
of
the
communities
where
our
children
and
grandchildren
live
and
play
as
an
ev
driver.
I
know
that
electric
vehicles
are
a
better
option
and
I
want
to
increase
access
to
them
for
our
communities.
M
My
car
needs
less
maintenance
and
servicing
saving
me
more
time
and
money.
That's
why
I
am
so
excited
about
the
repair
and
replace
program
will
specifically
help
low-income
drivers
buy
these
cleaner
and
affordable
to
operate
cars.
I
am
a
mother
of
two
and
a
grandmother
of
two,
and
I
worry
about
my
grandchildren's
future.
We
must
do
what
we
can
to
address
climate
change
and
poor
air
quality,
because
the
problem
is
here
now.
Otherwise
what
kind
of
world
are
we
leaving
for
our
children?
Thank
you
for
your
consideration
of
ab349.
F
N
N
The
ala
further
lists
children's
children,
teens
seniors
those
with
existing
respiratory
diseases
and
anyone
who
works
or
recreates
outdoors
as
vulnerable
groups
to
smog
pollution
smog
and
other
air
pollutants
can
exasperate
respiratory
and
cardiovascular
ailments
and
can
even
lead
to
premature
death.
Poor
air
quality
can
damage
nevada's
outdoor
economy
by
deterring
visitors,
hurting
both
business
and
tax
revenue.
Nevada
can
reduce
the
number
of
vehicles
on
the
road
that
have
failed.
N
The
smog
test
by
requiring
drivers
to
maintain
classic
or
antique
car
insurance
in
order
to
receive
a
vintage
plate,
as
laid
out
in
this
bill,
drivers
that
do
not
meet
those
standards,
would
have
to
repay
repair
their
vehicle
to
meet
standards
or
else
risk
cancellation
of
their
vehicles.
Registration.
F
E
Madam
chair
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record,
my
name
is
melissa
ramos
m-e-l-I-s-s-a
ramos,
a
mls
and
I
serve
as
the
clean
air
advocacy
manager
for
the
american
lung
association.
The
american
lung
association
is
the
leading
organization
working
to
save
lives
by
improving
lung
health
and
preventing
lung
disease
through
education,
advocacy
and
research.
We
support
ab349,
which
will
set
nevada
on
a
path
to
cleaner
and
healthier
air
by
addressing
transportation
pollution.
E
The
transportation
sector
continues
to
be
the
leading
cause
for
air
pollution,
which
can
cause
asthma
attacks,
heart
and
lung
disease,
respiratory
and
developmental
harm
and,
in
some
cases,
premature
death.
These
health
risks
are
heightened
even
more
for
our
most
vulnerable
population,
including
low-income
communities
of
color
children
and
seniors.
E
Our
annual
report,
state-of-the-art
2020,
found
nevada,
is
faced
with
some
of
the
most
difficult
air
quality
challenges
across
the
country.
Las
vegas,
ranked
ninth,
most
ozone-polluted
city
in
the
u.s
and
25th
for
particle
pollution.
Reno
also
ranks
23rd
for
most
particle
pollution
days.
Currently,
2.8
million
nevada
residents
are
living
in
counties
with
unhealthy
air.
E
Climate
change
also
exacerbates
transportation
pollution
and
closing
the
classic
car
loophole
is
an
important
measure
to
ensure
the
most
polluting
vehicles
are
subject
to
passing
a
smog
check
or
to
get
them
off.
The
road
ab349
will
also
reduce
harmful
tail
pipe
emissions
by
investing
in
state
air
quality
programs
to
create
a
repair,
replace
program
for
vehicle
owners
and
delay.
Initial
smog
check
requirements
for
newer
vehicles.
E
F
N
One
of
our
community
members
top
environmental
concerns
is
nevada's
poor
air
quality.
Our
community
is
worried
about
smog
pollution
getting
worse,
making
it
harder
for
them
and
their
kids
to
spend
time
outdoors
and
making
allergies
worse
for
people
of
color,
for
older
community
members
and
for
children.
Air
pollution
has
serious
health
consequences
from
asthma
to
cardiovascular
disease,
to
cancer,
for
black
and
indigenous
people,
and
families
of
color,
who
have
been
forced
to
live
in
neighborhoods
next
to
sources
of
pollution
like
highways,
airports
or
industrial
centers.
Breathing
unhealthy
air
can
also
take
other
tolls.
N
Our
communities
are
more
likely
to
be
underinsured
or
uninsured.
We
can't
afford
more
illnesses
that
raise
our
medical
costs
when
the
cost
of
an
inhaler
has
to
be
studied
by
the
legislator.
You
know
costs
are
too
high.
We
also
know
that
reducing
smog
means
lowering
pollution
that
is
making
the
climate
crisis
worse.
N
That
is
why
we
strongly
believe
that
nevada
should
close
this
loophole
that
allows
over
2500
cars
in
clark
county
to
use
special
license
plates
to
avoid
a
smog
check,
but
we
cannot
close
this
loophole
without
offering
an
alternative
to
community
members
who
have
older
vehicles
that
may
not
be
able
to
pass
a
small
check.
We
appreciate
everything
that
assembly
member
watts
has
described
today
as
far
as
the
ideas
and
plans
for
offering
financial
aid,
so
that
local
counties
can
help
low-income
nevadans
repair
the
vehicles
or
replace
them
with
newer
and
cleaner
alternatives.
F
I
I
on-road
motor
vehicles
are
the
largest
category
of
ozone
precursor
emissions.
Preliminary
air
monitoring
data
through
2020
indicates
that
washoe
county
will
be
violating
the
health-based
national
ambient
air
quality
standards
for
ozone.
The
inspection
and
maintenance
program
is
a
key
mechanism
to
ensure
motor
vehicles
do
not
worsen
worsen
ozone
concentrations.
I
I
10.1
percent
of
model
year
1968
to
1995
vehicles,
failed
their
initial
small
check
in
warsaw,
county
versus
2.2
percent
of
model
year
1996
to
2020
vehicles,
a
classic
vehicle
that
fails
its
smart
check.
Un
undoes
the
benefits
gained
from
technology
and
federal
tailpipe
emission
standards
classic
v
classic
vehicle
plates
are
disproportionately
registered
in
washoe
and
car
counties
compared
to
the
rest
of
the
state.
I
I
would
like
to
thank
assemblyman
watts
for
engaging
with
the
health
district.
Earlier
this
summer,
we've
been
looking
forward
to
let's
this
legislation
like
this
for
quite
some
time,
and
this
is
a
priority
for
the
division.
We
know
this
is
years
in
the
making
and
a
lot
of
hard
work
again.
The
hqmd
is
in
support
of
ab349
and
I'm
available
for
any
comments
or
questions.
Thank
you.
F
B
Thank
you
good
afternoon.
O
O
the
faith,
organizing
alliance,
we're
trying
to
solve
a
lot
of
issues
with
nevada's
transportation
system
transportation
impacts
every
aspect
of
our
day-to-day
lives
from
how
we
get
to
work.
How
we
go
to
the
grocery
store
visit,
the
doctor
to
even
the
very
air
that
we
breathe.
Yet
not
all
members
of
our
community
have
the
same
access
and
ease
of
mobility
as
others,
and
we
do
not
bear
the
burden
of
air
pollution
the
same
way.
O
One
of
the
ways
we
think
we
can
address
this
is
by
reducing
pollution
that
comes
from
vehicles
to
reduce
contamination
that
is
making
our
community
sick.
As
many
of
you
know,
we've
been
supportive
of
clean
energy
and
cleaner
vehicles
that
will
protect
our
environment
and
our
air
quality.
We
want
to
understand
how
we
can
begin
to
provide
communities
with
cleaner
vehicles,
but
there's
no
funding
source
for
that
right
now.
O
The
state
climate
strategy
says
we
need
to
reduce
emission
from
transportation
the
number
one
source
of
carbon
emissions.
It
includes
several
ideas
so
now
to
do
that,
including
closing
the
small
check
loophole
that
allows
cars
that
can't
pass
a
smog
inspection
to
avoid
one
by
getting
specialty
license
plates.
It
also
calls
for
incentives,
specifically
aimed
at
making
electric
vehicles
more
accessible
to
lower
income
communities.
O
That's
why
eb
349
is
important
to
us,
because
not
only
will
it
close
that
loophole,
but
also
taking
steps
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
just
denying
the
bodies
with
all
the
vehicles
the
use
of
their
cars,
but
providing
funding
for
them
to
make
their
cleaning
vehicles
or
to
get
a
clean
air
car.
This
will
help
protect
folks
who
are
driving
older
vehicles
that
may
be
more
polluting,
but
that
can
not
afford
to
get
them
fixed.
It
will
help
increase
access
to
cleaner
technology
and
clean
up
our
air.
O
F
B
E
a
and
I'm
a
principal
air
quality
specialist
from
clark,
county
department
of
environment
and
sustainability,
clark
county,
is
in
support
of
assembly
bill.
349.
clark
county
has
been
designated
non-attainment
for
ozone
standards.
On-Road
members.
Excuse
me:
on-road
emissions
from
motor
vehicles
are
a
large
portion
of
the
ozone
precursors.
B
B
This
bill
addresses
clark
county's
concern
that
a
significant
number
of
classic
vehicles
are
bypassing
emission
testing
requiring
classic
vehicle
insurance
will
prevent
grossly
polluting
vehicles
from
avoiding
smog
checks
and
result
in
reducing
air
pollution.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
address
the
committee.
F
P
P
Our
members
recognize
that
climate
change
poses
a
significant
risk
to
the
long-term
economic
success
of
the
business
community
and
have
set
goals
to
reduce
their
emissions.
Just
as
transportation
is
now,
the
largest
source
of
greenhouse
gas
emissions
in
nevada,
vehicle
fleets
are
often
a
substantial
component
of
their
carbon
footprint,
as
well
as
a
major
operating
expense.
P
Importantly,
our
members
and
and
our
business
partners
support
policies
that
accelerate
the
transition
to
clean
transportation
options,
not
only
because
it
helps
their
bottom
line,
but
because
it
helps
their
employees,
customers
and
the
communities
they
operate
in
siris
recently
submitted
a
letter
to
the
committee
signed
by
six
businesses
and
institutions,
including
dignity,
health
uber,
ikea
and
patagonia,
highlighting
their
support
for
legislative
action
that
accelerates
the
transition
to
low
emission
in
zero
mission
vehicles.
In
this
letter,
these
companies
called
on
state
lawmakers
to
close
the
current
vehicle
emissions
testing
loophole
in
the
smog
check
program.
P
Closing
this
loophole
would
improve
air
quality,
which
will
lower
health
care
costs
by
reducing
instances
of
respiratory
illness
that
leads
to
missed
days
of
school
and
work,
especially
for
low-income
and
minority
communities,
who
are
disproportionately
impacted
by
air
pollution.
For
these
reasons,
siri
supports
the
passage
of
ab349.
Thank
you.
F
M
Good
afternoon,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record,
my
name
is
yola
hager,
y-o-l-l-a-h-a-g-e-r
and
I'm
one
of
the
founders
and
current
president
of
hagar
environmental
and
atmospheric
technologies.
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
my
company
and
our
partner
parsons
to
testify
in
support
of
ab349
and
thank
assemblyman
watts.
M
This
technology
operates
seven
days
a
week,
24
hours
a
day
365
days
a
year,
unmanned,
bring
great
convenience
and
cost
effectiveness
cost-effectiveness
to
the
citizens
of
nevada,
who
can
voluntarily
drive
under
the
system
to
have
their
cars
remotely
tested
and
because
of
its
cost
effectiveness.
There
is
the
potential
for
increased
revenue
generation
for
the
state.
M
Those
whose
vehicles
do
not
receive
a
pass
with
remote
systems
will
not
be
able
to
opt
in
or
will
need
to
seek
testing
at
a
local
smog
shop
to
ensure
proper
repairs
are
made,
but
for
those
motorists
who
pass
it
is
an
added
value.
The
dmv
can
offer
citizens
and
given
the
pandemic,
this
solution
offers
motorists
who
are
high
risk,
the
priceless
benefit
of
a
contactless
online
option
to
smart
check
their
cars.
M
F
E
C-H-R-I-S-T-I-C-A-B-R-E-R-A
and
I'm
the
policy
and
advocacy
director
for
the
nevada
conservation
league
ab
349
is
a
priority
of
the
nevada
conservation
network.
A
diverse
coalition
of
over
20
of
our
state's
leading
conservation
and
environmental
groups.
The
nevada
conservation
network
came
together
around
a
focused
set
of
five
priority
bills
for
the
2021
session.
All
of
them
strong
steps
for
in
for
advancing
conservation
and
the
protection
of
nevada's
environment
av
349
would
help
us
make
progress
towards
our
state's
ambitious
goals
of
reducing
greenhouse
gas
emissions
to
reach
net
zero
by
2050.
E
By
removing
some
of
the
dirtiest
smog
producing
cars
from
our
roads
and
making
clean
energy
alternatives
available,
we
can
lower
nevada's
emissions
and
put
ourselves
in
a
better
position
to
meet
our
climate
goals.
Nevadans
overwhelmingly
support
bold
aggressive
actions
that
can
run
confronts
the
climate
crisis.
82
nevada.
Voters
believe
that
climate
change
is
a
serious
problem
and
70
strongly
support
regulations
that
would
limit
total
carbon
emissions
in
nevada
to
reach
our
net
zero
goal.
Nevadans
are
calling
on
legislators
to
prioritize
pro-climate
policies
that
will
protect
our
environment
and
public
health
for
years
to
come.
E
Ab
349
is
a
critical
step
in
fighting
the
climate
crisis
that
works
to
improve
air
quality
and
public
health.
It
checks
two
boxes
in
nevada,
state
climate
strategy,
closing
the
classic
car
loopholes
and
funding
a
program
to
help
families
make
the
switch
to
an
electric
vehicle
we'd
like
to
thank
assemblyman
watts
for
bringing
this
important
piece
of
legislation
forward,
and
we
strongly
urge
the
committee's
support.
Thank
you.
F
E
Good
afternoon,
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record,
my
name
is
christine
saunders.
That's
s!
A!
U
n
e
r
s,
I'm
a
policy
director
with
progressive
leadership
alliance
in
nevada,
here
in
support
of
assembly
bill
349
to
close
the
current
classic
carl
loophole
in
the
interest
of
time.
I'm
just
going
to
echo
the
sentiments
of
the
people
who
testified
before
me
and
submit
my
additional
comments
for
the
record
in
supporting
ab349
and
actively
producing
smog
pollution
from
cars.
E
A
F
F
B
Partner
at
argentine
partners
here
today,
testifying
in
support
of
ab349
on
behalf
of
the
southern
nevada
health
district,
while
the
southern
nevada
health
desert
doesn't
directly
regulate
air
quality
in
southern
nevada,
as
it
is
a
function
of
clark,
county
improving
vehicle
emissions
is
a
benefit
to
public
health.
We
thank
assembly
and
watts
for
bringing
this
bill
forward
and
again
urge
your
support.
A
F
N
A
F
F
F
F
F
Q
Yes,
good
afternoon,
everyone,
my
name
is
raphael,
arroyo,
r,
a
f,
a
e
l,
a
r
r
o
y
o,
and
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
emission
testers
council,
and
I
just
first
of
all,
I'd
like
to
say
I'm
in
opposition
to
some
parts
of
the
bill,
but
not
all-
and
I
do
appreciate
assemblyman
watts,
bringing
this
bill
forward
and
has
a
lot
of
good
things
in
it.
But
there
are
some
things
that
I
have
concerns
about
as
members
of
the
industry.
Q
As
far
as
the
classic
plate
saying
we
are
one
thousand
percent
in
support
of
that,
and
we
really
appreciate
that.
He
brought
that
forward.
There's
a
couple
of
things
that
we
do
have
concerns
about.
One
is
the
four
year
of
exemption
which
what
which
he
mentioned,
that
there
may
be
some
some
middle
ground
and
stuff
on
that.
Q
But
I
would
like
to
also
speak
to
the
fact
that,
if
the
whole
intention
of
this
bill
is
to
reduce
emissions
and
that's
why
all
of
these
people
are
in
favor
of
it
and
we
are
also
in
favor
of
reducing
emissions.
Q
So,
even
though
that
there
is
a
a
low
percentage
of
cars
that
fail
the
emissions
test
that
are
newer,
the
reason
that
is
is
because
there's
a
lot
more
knowledge
out
there
for
people.
People
know
not
to
bring
their
cars
in
to
get
emissions
tested
when
they
have
a
check
engine
light
and
they're
not
going
to
pass.
So
that's
why
you're
going
to
see
the
low
failure
rates,
and
we
have
to
remember
that
the
name
of
the
program
is
the
I
m
program.
Q
The
inspection
and
maintenance
program
and
the
the
the
point
of
it
from
the
beginning
was
to
require
inspections,
to
force
people
to
do
maintenance
and
most
people
will
not
do
maintenance
on
vehicles
if
it's
not
required
and
with
technology.
Q
Nowadays,
especially
in
the
newer
vehicles,
there
can
be
vehicles
that
are
over
the
federal
limit
of
pollution
and
the
check
engine
light
will
be
on,
but
the
driver
will
not
feel
any
change
in
drivability
or
performance,
so
they'll
go
four
years
without
getting
it
fixed,
because
why
do
they
need
to
my
car
drives
fine
and
as
a
member
of
of
the
industry,
that
also
has
emission
repair
stations?
I
will
tell
you
that
I
see
this
on
a
daily
basis.
Q
People
are
only
fixing
their
cars
in
order
to
pass
the
smog
because
they
don't
want
to
spend
the
money
on
that.
So
I
would
say
that
if,
if
the
goal
is
to
reduce
emissions,
then
I
don't
think
less
testing
is
the
answer.
As
far
as
that
goes
also,
there
is
going
to
be
an
economic
impact,
obviously
to
the
small
businesses,
especially
the
people
that
assembly
women
summers
armstrong
mentioned
that
are
the.
Q
Small
people,
I
will
move
on
to
the
jeez
two
minutes.
I
will
move
on
to
the
the
self-repair
portion.
We
did
have
a
conversation
about
that
and
I
think
that
there's
ways
to
help
people
with
their
older
vehicles
and
I'm
in
support
of
the
program,
but
the
raising
the
fee
to
10
is
also
going
to
really
hurt
a
lot
of
the
small
businesses,
because
the
larger
businesses
are
going
to
be
able
to
not
pass
on
that
price
of
the
consumer.
A
F
J
My
name
is
eric:
juar,
that's
e-r-I-c.
Last
w-a-h-r-e-r,
I
am
the
state
manager
for
nevada
decker
services
inc.
You
know
we
are
also
in
support
of
closing
the
classic
car
loophole,
but
remote
sensing
seems
to
open
another
loophole
as
I've
been
in
the
industry.
A
F
F
A
J
Madam
chair,
if
I
may
j.d
decker
chief
of
the
compliance
enforcement
division
for
the
nevada
dmv,
it's
nice
to
see
you
today
and
the
committee,
I
would
like
to
personally
thank
assemblyman
watts
for
explaining
nevada
vehicle
missions
so
impressively.
J
The
dmv
would
like
to
offer
a
friendly
amendment
to
vice
chair
watts,
adding
business
purposes
to
the
transportation
activities
that
are
prohibited
for
use
with
smog
exempt
plates,
as
identified
in
the
bill.
Ced
doesn't
feel
that
a
vehicle
used
for
commerce
should
be
exempted
from
mission
standards.
J
So
we
would.
We
would
invite
vice
chair
watts,
to
discuss
it
offline
with
us.
If
he's
interested.
I
would
also
just
like
to
be
available
to
answer
any
of
the
questions
the
committee
might
have
of
dmv
at
this
time,
including
our
current
usage
of
the
remote
sensing
technologies.
J
A
Thank
you,
mr
decker,
for
your
comments
and
members.
If
you
do
have
any
questions
for
mr
decker,
I
encourage
you
to
take
those
offline
seeing
the
time
of
our
committee
today.
I'm
sure
he
will
encourage
that
conversation
and
I
saw
someone
watch
shaking
his
head.
So
I
look
forward
to
seeing
the
outcomes
of
the
conversation
you
have
with
him.
F
E
P
Afternoon,
chairman
monroe
moreno
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record,
I'm
kristen
averitt
state
climate
policy
coordinator,
that's
k-r-I-s-t-e-n-a-v-e-r-y-t
on
behalf
of
the
nevada
climate
initiative,
I'm
testifying
neutral
on
assembly
bill
349.,
the
classic
car
loophole
was
one
of
the
17
climate
mitigation
policies
contemplated
in
the
state
climate
strategy
that
was
released
by
the
nevada
climate
initiative
in
december
of
last
year.
The
strategy
did
not
make
specific
recommendations
about
policies
that
should
or
should
not
be
implemented.
P
It
did,
however,
provide
a
framework
that
is
intended
to
help
lawmakers
shape
policies,
so
they
work
for
nevada
as
it
relates
to
the
classic
vehicle
loophole.
The
state
climate
strategy
states
the
following
one:
older
vehicles
emit
significantly
more
emissions
on
a
per
mile
basis
than
newer
vehicles.
P
Two
closing
the
classic
cars
loophole
will
reduce
tailpipes
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
Three
a
policy
requirement
to
pass
an
emissions
test
prior
to
obtaining
a
special
license
plate
could
have
a
negative
financial
impact
for
low-income
households,
and
four
closing
the
classic
vehicle
loophole
could
have
a
positive
health
impact.
Excuse
me
for
vulnerable
communities
via
air
quality
improvements.
P
Ab-349
is
consistent
with
the
state
climate
strategy
in
that
has,
in
that
it
has
the
potential
to
reduce
greenhouse
gas
emissions
and,
as
explained
by
vice
chair
watt.
In
his
opening
remarks,
there
are
provisions
in
the
bill
intended
to
address
the
financial
impact
to
low-income
households.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
A
F
B
B
The
classic
car
loophole
has
been
a
concern
to
nevada's
air
quality
agencies
and
the
department
of
motor
vehicles
since
2011.
in
that
year.
A
statute
change
allowed
vehicles
that
would
otherwise
be
subject
to
the
motor
vehicle
emissions
testing
program,
but
had
obtained
special
license
plates
to
avoid
the
requirement
to
pass
an
emissions
test.
Since
then,
the
number
of
vehicles
taken
advantage
of
this
loophole
has
grown
from
a
few
thousand
in
2011
to
more
than
30
000.
B
Measures
in
the
bill
that
were
also
proposed
in
the
2006
imm
committee
report
include
increasing
the
testing
exemption
period
for
new
vehicles
from
two
to
four
years
and
providing
the
possibility
of
remote
sensing
testing
a
vehicle.
Ndep
believes
these
measures
will
reduce
the
regulatory
burden
of
the
program
and
motorists,
while
also
maintaining
its
air
quality
effectiveness.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Yes,
very
briefly,
howard
watts
for
the
record.
I
believe
that
we're
very
close
to
working
with
some
of
the
folks
who
have
testified
in
opposition
in
mutual
to
reaching
a
point
where
we
can
provide
all
the
benefits
that
have
been
laid
out
on
this
bill,
while
also
addressing
the
concerns.
We
might
not
get
everyone
to.
100
percent
love
the
bill,
but
I
think
that
we
can
get
to
a
place
where
it's
acceptable
and
workable
for
all.
D
So
I
look
forward
to
doing
that
and
circling
back
around
with
an
amendment
very
soon
for
your
consideration.
D
The
only
other
thing
I'd
say
because
I
think
so
many
people
covered
it
well
is
that
there
are
some
additional
exhibits
submitted
in
writing
on
nellis
and
just
wanted
to
make
folks
aware
that
there's
additional
testimony,
particularly
in
support
that
you
can
find
there
if
you're
interested,
and
with
that.
I
thank
you
for
your
time
and
consideration
and
look
forward
to
all
of
your
support
on
assembly
bill.
349.
A
Thank
you
so
much,
and
for
that
we
will
now
close
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill,
349
and
open
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
383.
The
measure
is
co-sponsored
by
three
committee
members
assembly
members,
watts,
brown
may
and
miller.
The
presenters
today
you're
welcome
to
start,
and
hopefully
this
presentation
will
be
just
a
little
bit
shorter
than
our
last,
because
we
only
have
one
hour
to
get
through
it
all.
D
I'm
joined
by
brian
fady
with
the
appliance
standards,
awareness,
product
project
or
asap
I'll
speak
briefly
about
why
I
brought
this
bill
forward
and
the
benefits
I
believe
will
bring.
Then
turn
it
over
to
mr
fady
to
provide
some
additional
context
and
we'll
walk
you
briefly
through
the
bill
and
in
a
proposed
amendment,
which
should
be
available
to
everyone
on
nellis,
the
legislature
and
governor
sislek,
as
I've
noted
before
set
bold
blow
goals
to
address
climate
change
and
reduce
our
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
D
Doing
the
same
amount
of
work
with
less
several
of
the
measures
in
the
state
climate
strategy,
focus
on
efficiency
and
ab383
specifically
addresses
another
one
of
the
17
policies
evaluated
by
that
strategy
by
adopting
appliance
and
equipment
efficiency
standards.
These
policies
can
easily
provide
a
wide
range:
they
save
energy
and
water
nevada's,
most
precious
natural
resource.
D
In
my
opinion,
less
energy
means
avoided
pollution
that
negatively
affects
our
climate
and
our
health
and
using
less
means
spending
less
on
utility
bills,
saving
families
and
businesses
money
we've
seen
local
governments
also
realize
huge
savings
of
taxpayer
dollars
by
switching
light
poles
to
leds,
for
example,
programs
like
energy,
star
and
water
sense
provide
big
returns
on
modest
investments,
and
this
bill
builds
on
those
initiatives
and
fills
in
the
gaps
where
the
federal
government
has
fallen
behind
in
setting
standards
after
I
worked
with
this
bodies
to
successfully
pass
water
conservation
legislation
last
session,
I'm
now
bringing
a
simple
energy
with
assembly
bill
383
with
that
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
to
mr
fady
to
give
a
brief
overview
and
then
I'll
walk
you
very
quickly
through
the
bill.
R
R
Okay,
and
so
today,
we're
here
to
talk
about
appliance
efficiency
standards,
which
is
a
great
way
to
save
money
for
consumers
and
reduce
emissions.
I
want
to
just
give
a
very
brief
background
on
what
our
appliance
efficiency
standards
and
then
we'll
talk
about
the
bill.
Specifically,
my
organization
applies
standards,
awareness
project.
We
are
a
non-profit
organization
that
is
a
coalition
project
with
a
steering
committee
that
includes
consumer
advocates.
Energy
efficiency
advocates,
as
well
as
utility
and
state
agency
staff,
and
we
work
to
advance
cost-effective
appliance
standards
at
the
state
and
federal
level.
R
R
Now
the
federal
government
has
set
these
efficiency
standards
for
over
60
products,
but
states
can
set
standards
for
any
product
that
the
federal
government
has
not,
and
the
federal
government
has
often
set
these
for
it's
kind
of
the
bigger
name
appliances
that
you
might
think
of
when
you
hear
the
term
appliances,
your
refrigerators,
your
washers
and
dryers,
but
there's
a
whole
category
of
products
that
the
federal
government
has
not
set
standards
for,
and
thus
states
can-
and
it's
worth
noting,
that
this
policy
concept
it
applies
only
to
the
sale
of
new
products
not
to
used
products.
R
Many
states
have
been
setting
appliance
efficiency
standards
over
the
years
and
talk
just
to
briefly
about
reasons
why
meeting
climate
goals
has
been
a
big
reason.
Why,
especially
as
of
recent,
when
states
have
been
adopting
stronger
and
stronger
climate
goals,
they've
been
turning
to
appliance
efficiency
standards
as
a
way
to
reduce
energy
demand
to
help
meet
renewable
energy,
as
well
as
greenhouse
gas
reduction
goals.
R
R
Again,
nevada
applying
standards
wonderfully
in
2019.
The
state
sets
standards
for
certain
light
bulbs
as
well
as
water
fixtures,
and
so
the
bill
today.
Ab383
is
looking
to
cover
13
more
recommended
products.
R
For
those
visually
inclined
here
are
some
pictures
of
the
13
products
that
are
in
the
bill.
The
next
slide
will
have
them
listed
out,
but
wanted
to
give
you
a
visual
we've
got
a
list
of
the
products
here
and
we're
using
it
to
talk
about
the
utility
bill
savings
that
could
be
achieved
by
this
bill.
R
I'll
also
note
that
we
have
conducted
a
payback
calculation
where,
if
a
product
does
have
a
increase
in
the
incremental
cost
of
the
product
or
meeting
the
standards.
How
long
would
it
take
for
a
consumer
to
to
make
that
up?
Eight
of
the
13
products
have
less
than
a
two
year
payback
period
and
four
of
those
actually
have
no
payback
period
where
the
savings
would
begin
right
away.
R
R
R
These
products
also
have
good
consumer
choice.
Multiple
manufacturers
are
already
making
products
meeting
the
proposed
standards
and
you're
also
able
to
confirm
that
there
will
be
energy
emissions
and
dollar
savings
that
market
data
is
available,
that
you
can
see
products
out
on
the
market,
products
that
would
be
coming
in
to
be
more
efficient
and
you
get
a
quantitative
analysis
of
that
which
is
really
nice.
R
Effective
date,
as
the
assemblyman
mentioned,
there's
a
proposed
amendment
coming
that
would
set
the
effective
date
at
july,
1st
2023,
and
that
would
give
about
two
years
for
retailers,
manufacturers
and
others
to
prepare
and,
of
course,
to
allow
covid
to
receive
as
well
and
the
last
piece
I'll
touch
on
is
that
the
very
end
of
the
bill?
This
is
a
flexible
demand
piece.
R
The
bill
enables
but
does
not
require
the
governor's
office
of
energy
to
adopt
flexible
demand
standards
via
the
normal
public
notice
and
comment
rule
making,
and
what
this
is
about.
You're,
looking
to
potentially
unlock
the
ability
to
reduce
peak
demand
and
provide
other
grid
services
via
voluntary
demand,
response
programs
and
what
the
conversation
is
around
this
right
now,
hot
water
heaters
is
the
product
most
being
talked
about.
R
What
you
can
envision
in
the
future
is
say:
100,
000,
electric
hot
water
heaters
being
bundled
together
in
southern
nevada
and
being
able
to
communicate
with
the
grid
operator,
or
perhaps
a
third
party
vendor
and
you're
able
to
operate
those
so
that,
for
example,
they're
not
all.
Turning
on
during
peak
demand
hours,
you
achieve
a
lot
of
value
there
for
the
grid.
R
California,
as
well
as
washington
state
passed
this
requirement
in
2019
and
oregon
has
a
bill
this
year.
That's
moving
through
their
legislature
that
has
this
flexible
demand
piece.
Theirs
is
specifically
for
hot
water
heaters
again
this
the
bill
doesn't
require
it,
but
it's
a
an
enabling
piece
via
rulemaking,
and
that
is
it.
D
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
fady.
I'm
walking
you
very
briefly
through
the
bill
and
as
well
as
the
mock-up
amendment.
Sections
2
through
30
define
the
various
appliances
and
other
key
terms
that
are
used
in
the
remainder
of
the
bill.
D
It
also
clearly
sets
those
minimum
levels
for
the
standards
for
each
device
and
allows
them
to
be
modified
as
the
technology
improves
and
anytime
that
that
happens,
there
would
be
at
least
a
one
year.
Grace
period
for
manufacturers
and
others
to
adjust
section
32
of
the
bill
would
allow
the
governor's
office
of
energy
to
adopt
standards
for
other
items
moving
forward
as
technology
evolves
again.
Providing
a
one-year
grace
period
to
prepare.
D
All
of
this
rule-making
would
happen
in
a
public
and
transparent
way,
consistent
with
the
nevada
administrative
procedure
act.
It's
also
important
to
note
that
many
appliances
already
have
standards
set
by
the
federal
government
and
any
existing
or
new
federal
standards
preempt
any
existing
state
standard
section
33
eliminated,
since
it
is
not
a
my
or
our
intent
to
see
to
seek
a
waiver
of
any
federal
existing
standards.
D
The
amended
section
34
clarifies
how
compliance
essentially
would
work
with
manufacturers
providing
certification
that
their
products
meet
the
outline
standards
oftentimes
it's
as
simple
as
showing
the
existing
energy
star
designation
for
a
product
section
35
would
have
allowed
for
independent
testing
and
verification,
but
is
being
removed.
Is
we
don't
really
have
the
capacity
within
the
state
to
carry
out
those
processes?
D
D
Many
of
us
are
used
to
smart
thermostats
now
so
as
that
technology
develops
we're
looking
at
setting
standards
to
help
spur
the
the
use
of
those
and
section
38
provides
exemptions
to
the
application
of
the
standards
primarily
for
items
that
might
be
produced
here
or
move
here
through
the
supply
chain,
but
are
going
to
be
sold
outside
of
the
state
to
a
place
that
may
not
have
our
standards.
D
We
are
in
disagreement
particularly
about
the
fireplace
standards,
but
our
conversations
with
them
have
resulted
in
some
of
the
proposed
amendments
and
improved
the
bill,
and
we
probably
have
at
least
one
or
two
slight
technical
cleanups
that
we
want
to
make
as
well
and
we'll
we'll
get
on
those
and
continue
to
talk
to
the
home
builders
to
see,
if
there's
any
other
consensus
that
we
can
reach.
In
with
that.
I
thank
you
for
your
time
and
we'll
turn
it
over
to
any
questions
that
members
of
the
committee
may
have.
A
K
Thank
you
chair,
so
you
provided
some
great
background
on
the
payback
period
of
these
devices,
which
appears
to
be
generally
quite
short.
Can
you
quantify
the
actual
dollar
savings
of
family
or
business
could
see
in
a
year
by
ensuring
that
they
have
some
of
these
more
efficient
appliances.
D
R
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
vice
chair,
and
thank
you
assemblywoman
for
the
question
we
have
looked
at
that
in
using
national
average
numbers
for
a
number
of
the
products,
specifically
the
commercial
products
you
see,
listed,
there's
commercial
dishwashers,
commercial,
oven,
electric
steam,
cookers,
gas,
fryers,
hot
food
holding
cabinets,
and
you
know
we
see
with
those
products
some
really
nice
annual
savings
you're,
looking
at
approximately
900
in
annual
savings
with
commercial
dishwashers.
R
Again,
this
is
using
that
national
numbers,
but
170
annual
savings
and
commercial
ovens,
400
annual
savings
with
the
gas
fryers
175
annual
savings
with
the
hot
food
holding
cabinets,
and
so
you
can
see
where.
Yes,
there
are
a
tremendous
annual
utility
bill,
savings
that
can
be
had
and
at
the
homeowner
level
as
well
you'll
see
those
savings
and
really,
when
you
add
them
up
across
the
state.
That's
where
you
start
getting.
You
know
even
more
impressive
numbers.
Those
are
dollars
again
that
stay
within
the
state
and
can
be
spent
in
local
assignments.
K
Thank
you
for
those
complications.
I
can
imagine,
didn't
you
go
for
a
small
business,
whether
it's
towards
enhancing
pay
for
their
employees,
to
try
and
meet
that
15
minimum
wage
standard
that
we'd
like
to
see
in
the
state
of
nevada
or
going
back
to
the
cost
of
the
food
or
whatever
it
is
that
they're
preparing,
so
that
consumers
have
some
savings.
K
I
have
one
other
question
chair
if
I
may
thank
you
so
in
this
space
when
we're
talking
about
efficiency
standards
and
really
battling
this
like
race
to
the
end
with
climate
change,
you
know
be
becoming
really
this
looming
issue
that
we
have
to
handle
in
such
a
a
latitude
of
areas,
I'm
a
huge
proponent
of
investing
in
research
and
development,
and
I
think
that
this
is
one
of
those
areas
in
which
we
have
some
opportunities
and
really
should
be
at
the
forefront,
particularly
around
water
savings
efficiencies
and
and
those
power
savings
efficiencies.
K
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
trends
we're
seeing
in
the
flexible
demand
technology
and
how
standards
could
help
spur
innovation
and
deployment
of
this
technology.
D
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
question.
Assimilators
howard
watts
to
the
record.
That's
a
a
passion
of
mine
as
well.
You
know,
building
out
that
new
energy
economy
and
trying
to
make
sure
that
nevada
is
home
to
innovative
technologies
and
they're,
not
only
putting
people
to
work
and
generating
economic
impact,
but
tackling
some
of
the
the
greatest
issues
that
we
face
from
water
scarcity,
to
climate
change
and
having
us
be
a
hub
where
folks
come
to
develop
these
technologies
and
deploy
them
flexible,
demand
technology.
D
Again,
I
it
sounds
a
little
bit
wonky,
but
really
it's
it's
smart
building
technology.
You
know
we've
seen
over
the
last
decade
or
so.
The
change
from
the
mercury
switch
thermostats
to
an
increasing
number
of
smart
thermostats
that
you
can
adjust
the
schedules.
D
They
can
learn
from
your
activities
and
that
generates
you
know
financial
benefits
to
the
consumers,
as
well
as
reducing
the
load
we've
seen
and
the
energy
have
their
own
system
set
up
where,
during
peak
times,
they
can
actually
raise
your
thermostat
a
couple
of
degrees
and
that
can
save
us
money
from
buying
expensive
energy.
It
can
reduce
the
need
to
turn
on
a
gas
keeper
plant
to
provide
high
cost
energy
during
those
those
high
demand
times.
So
that's
not
the
only
thing.
That's
out
there.
It's
kind
of
reached.
D
That's
what's
reached
that
point,
but
water
heaters
are
another
great
example.
Water
is
being
heated
depending
on
what
you
have
constantly,
and
so
those
are
also
things
that,
as
they
begin
to
communicate,
we
can
lower
that
demand
and
create
some
of
those
save
same
benefits,
especially
as
we're
deploying
renewable
energy
having
things
that
we
can
manage
that
demand,
especially
when
the
sun
isn't
shining,
for
example,
really
pays
off
huge
benefits.
D
So
you
know
I
I
think
we
could
be
a
leader,
one
of
a
handful
of
states
that
starts
looking
into
this
and
and
deploying
this,
and
by
doing
that,
we're
not
only
sending
a
message
to
makers
of
these
devices
generally,
but
we're
encouraging
the
innovators
to
to
come
here
honestly,
because
we're
going
to
be
an
environment
that
wants
to
help
deploy
that
technology,
and
you
know
we're
going
to
have
to
vet
it
to
make
sure
that
we're
following
cyber
security
and
and
that
we're
delivering
benefits,
we're
going
to
coordinate
with
the
puc
and
the
utility.
D
But
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
different
technologies
that
some
of
which
we
probably
haven't
we
haven't
dreamed
up
yet,
but
are
probably
innovators,
are
trying
to
figure
out
right
now
that
could
provide
some
of
some
amazing
benefits
to
consumers.
And
if
mr
fadey
wants
to
add
anything
briefly
on
that
I'll
pass
it
over
to
him.
J
Thank
you.
Madam
share
a
couple
questions.
If
I
may
and
thank
you
for
a
presentation
and
bringing
this
forward,
I
noticed
the
fireplace
standards.
I
know
you
said
you're
going
to
be
working
on
some
changes
to
that,
and
I
noticed
that
we
adopted
canadian
standards
are
referenced
in
the
bill.
Are
there
any
u.s
standards
that
could
be
used.
D
Thank
you
for
that
question.
Assemblyman
roberts,
howard.
What's
the
record,
canada
was
one
of
that
was
a
leading
nation
in
adopting
stronger
energy
efficiency
standards
for
fireplaces.
So
we
don't
again
have
a
federal
standard
set
here
in
the
united
states.
If
we
did,
we
wouldn't
need
this
in
the
first
place,
so
we're
looking
to
build
off
of
that.
I
believe
one
other
state
here
in
the
united
states
has
just
recently
adopted
those
standards,
so
we
would
be
adopting
similar
standards
so
that
again,
there's
consistency.
D
One
of
the
things
that
we
are
really
also
doing
with
this
is
trying
to
spur
the
federal
government
to
set
standards
and
we
don't
want
to
have
every
state
having
its
own
separate
standards.
So,
when
we're
working
on
these,
we
are
pushing
for
stronger
standards
in
a
sense
if
the
feds
haven't
stepped
in
yet,
but
we're
trying
to
have
some
uniformity
that
this
is
something
that
still
provides
lots
of
options,
has
a
quick
payback
period
and
kind
of
makes
sense
in
all
those
different
ways,
and
so
the
the
those
standards
are.
D
What
check
that
box-
and
you
know,
I
think
we
know
how
long
fireplaces
tend
to
last
in
a
residence
they're,
not
something
that
gets
changed
out
very
frequently,
so
those
would
deliver.
I
think,
really
significant
savings
to
the
the
homeowner
over
the
years
and
without,
if
mr
fadey
has
anything
else
to
add,
turn
it
over
to
him.
R
Yeah,
thank
you,
mr
price,
chair.
Just
briefly,
washington
state
was
the
one
state
that
has
adopted
these
standards.
They
adopted
them
via
a
building
code
process
in
their
2018
building
codes
there
and
those
have
come
into
effect.
You
know
one
of
the
reasons
for
basing
it
off
a
canadian
standard
is.
There
is
technical
activity
that
needs
to
go
into
developing
the
standards.
You
want
them
to
be
technically
sound
that
both
the
efficiency
standard
and
a
testing
procedure
to
make
sure
that
manufacturers
are
are
achieving
that
efficiency
standard.
R
You
want
those
to
be
technically
sound.
Now
you
notice
in
the
bill
most
of
the
products
are
pegged
to
energy
star
or
california.
Energy
commission
standard,
that's
in
part,
because
it
just
takes
resources
to
produce
that
sort
of
standard,
and
so
the
you
know
us
epa.
California,
energy,
commission,
they're
very
well
resourced.
It's
something
they've
been
doing
for
a
long
time
and
they
they
produce
those
for
other
products
for
gas
fireplaces.
R
We
turned
to
the
department
called
natural
resources,
canada,
which
is
the
canadian
federal
government
version
of
the
us
department
of
energy,
and
they
went
through
that
process.
The
laboratory
process
and
the
back
and
forth
with
industry
to
create
the
technical
standard
and
then
washington
state
adopted
it
afterwards
and
so
that
that
was
yes
part
of
the
reason
why
you
see
the
canadian
background
there.
J
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
one
other
question
man,
I'm
sure.
If
I
may,
I
noticed
there's
some
enforcement
portions
in
the
in
the
bill
and
I
I
couldn't
recall
if
you
were
going
to
take
those
out
or
not
in
your
proposed
amendment.
So
I
apologize
if
I'm
asking
a
mute
question,
but
do
you
what's
the
capacity
of
the
enforcement
arm
to
carry
out
this
in
the
outlying
years
and
and
you
and
I
are
both
on
ways
and
means
together.
D
I
believe
the
governor's
office
of
people
call
in
in
neutral
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
background
on
on
that,
as
well
as
the
impact
of
the
proposed
amendment,
which
I
won't
speak
for
them,
but
I
believe,
eliminates
the
fiscal
impact
of
the
bill
as
written
and
when
it
comes
to
enforcement,
we're
really
trying
to
line
it
up
with
some
of
the
work
that
I
did
on
water
conservation
standards
last
session,
which
basically
said
hey,
we've
got
these
water
sense
standards
for
these
different
fixtures.
D
So
anything
that
is
within
that
program
you
just
basically
the
way
you
can
check
it
is:
does
it
have
the
little?
It
says
water
sense
and
if
not,
then
there's
then
there's
an
issue
and
you
can
go
through
local
government
through
the
attorney
general,
if
there's
a
deceptive
trade
practice
to
address
it,
and
so
that
is
what
we're
trying
to
do
with
this,
and
it
didn't
quite
come
out
right
in
the
first
version
of
the
bill.
So
we
have
some
proposed
language
to
try
and
get
us
there
in
the
amendment.
D
We'll
probably
hear
some
opposition
from
the
home
builders
around
concerns
about
exactly
how
this
would
work,
and
I've
welcomed
them
to
provide
an
alternative
suggestion
that
make
sure
that
that
we
do
this
in
a
way
that
is
realistic
and
efficient
and
aligns
with
the
intent
of
the
bill,
which,
again
in
most
cases,
should
basically
be
the
office
of
energy
would
have
the
ability
to
say
hey.
Is
this
an
energy
star
product
like
like
we
have
established?
Does
it
meet
this
one
other
standard?
C
Okay,
thank
you
for
the
record,
john
ellison.
C
I
got
several
questions
and,
and
you
know,
I
believe,
technology
changes
every
every
two
years
dramatically
and
and
by
adopting
some
standards
now
two
years
are
going
to
be
out
of
place
and
I'll
give
you
some
examples
of
what
I'm
looking
at
with
these
ovens
right
now
that
you
probably
had
small,
small,
tiny
restaurants
put
in
ovens
five
years
ago,
they're
barely
making
it
because
of
covet
and
with
these
standards
here
and
to
replace
them
ovens,
they're
saying
oh
yeah!
Well,
you're
going
to
save
150
a
year.
C
Well,
it's
gonna
cost
you
eight
to
ten
thousand
dollars
to
replace
them.
So
I
mean
that's
just
one
idea
and
then
I'll
give
you
another
example.
What
I'm
talking
about
light
bulbs!
You
got
in
here
the
fluorescence
where
most
people
are
going
to
leds
because
of
the
cost
savings
in
the
lumens
of
the
lights.
C
But
the
leds
are
10
times
more
energy
efficient.
They
put
out
a
little
more
heat
but
they're
still
more
energy
efficient
and
remember
the
the
twisty
light
bulbs
that
that
they
forced
everybody
into
okay
them
light
bulbs
had
mercury
in
them.
So
now
we
had
people
with
mercury
poison.
Trying
to
take
these
down
now
you're
changing
this.
C
So
the
standards
is
this
going
to
be
mandatory
by
the
state,
because
I'll
tell
you
some
of
the
standards
in
here
says
to
comply
with
with
you
know
the
manufacturers:
are
they
even
going
to
come
into
nevada
and
what
about
the
property
owners
and
what
about
the
renters
that
has
to
replace
some
of
this
equipment
and
they
haven't
had
rent
for
over
a
year
and
a
half.
C
So
how
are
you
going
to
do
that?
So
I'd
like
you
to
answer
these,
because
you
know
I
I
I
want
to,
I
believe
in
the
technology
and
what
we
can
do
to
to
bring
it
up.
Just
like
you
brought
up
the
thermostats.
I
think
it's
the
greatest
idea
and
then
the
energy
even
stepped
up
to
the
plate
with
most
of
the
people
said:
hey
we'll
supply
some
of
these,
these
thermostats
for
you,
which
is
great
but
some
of
this
stuff
in
here
it.
C
C
Well,
I
don't
even
know
if
the
half
the
stuff's
even
available.
The
other
thing
is
in
two
years.
This
might
be
outdated.
So
could
could
you
help
me
understand
this
and
and
where
I
can
get
into
this,
because
it
seems
like
to
me
we're
we're
we're
pushing
other
people's
ideas
onto
private
property
and
private
people.
That's
my
problem.
D
Thank
you.
I
certainly
can't
help
you
with
that
assignment
allison
howard
watts,
for
the
record.
So
I
want
to
clear
up
any
misunderstanding
that
you
may
have
about
the
policy
in
this.
This
is
not
forcing
anybody
from
anything
so
not
telling
somebody
that
they
need
to
rip
out
anything,
that's
existing
and
replace
it
with
something
new.
This
is
standards
of
what's
going
to
be
sold
moving
forward.
D
So,
for
example,
when
that
oven
goes
out
and
somebody
needs
to
purchase
another
one,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
an
efficient
one,
one
that
may
cost
a
couple
hundred
dollars
more
up
front,
but
is
going
to
provide
operating
savings
that'll
more
than
make
up
for
that
over
the
lifetime
of
the
appliance,
and
so
that's
the
purpose
of
these.
It's
not
to
take
any
of
those.
D
You
mentioned
light
bulbs
again.
This
is
setting
standards
for
those
fluorescent
type
of
light
bulbs.
It
is
not
forcing
people
to
buy
those.
In
fact,
we
already
passed
a
lighting
bill
last
session
that
assisted
in
pushing
and
promoting
us
into
leds.
This
is
making
sure
that
if
you
have
fluorescent
lighting
like
we
have
within
this
building,
that
the
bulbs
that
are
available
are
higher
quality
and
are
gonna,
save
us
money.
So
that's
that's
that
and
then
I.
C
Think
I'm
glad
you
mentioned
that,
because
our
company
right
now
is
we
won't
even
put
regular
r,
40s
or
even
t8s
into
light
fixtures
right
now
we're
asking
the
people
to
go
ahead
and
invest
some
money,
get
rid
of
the
ballast
and
put
the
led
light
bulbs
in
so
you're
right,
you're,
100,.
D
Correct
on
that,
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
mr
allison
howard
watts
again
for
the
record
and
to
your
point
about
changing
technology.
I
really
appreciate
that
and
that's
why
this
bill
is
structured
to
allow
the
governor's
office
of
energy
to
adjust,
as
the
technology
adjusts
without
us
constantly
having
to
come
back
to
the
legislature
and
make
technical
fixes
all
the
time.
D
It's
the
same
thing
I
did
with
the
water
conservation
standards
so
that,
instead
of
us
setting
extremely
prescriptive
things
in
statute
that
we've
got
to
go
back
and
revisit
every
two
years
as
the
technology
changes.
This
will
allow
the
state
to
adapt
as
the
technology
adapts
and
that's
something
that
I'm
really
pleased
about
in
this
bill.
So
thank
you
for
the
question.
C
Yeah,
I
thank
you
and-
and
you
answered
a
lot
of
these
because
because
when
I
started
looking
through
here
and
I
hit
section
eight
or
whatever,
but
I
think
my
colleague
jumped
right
in
there
and
he
seen
the
same
thing
that
I
did
on
the
fireplaces
because
there's
a
lot
of
fireplaces
and
they,
the
older
senior
citizens
that
still
have
wood
fireplace.
So
they
have
gas,
fireplaces
and
it'd
be
impossible
for
them
to
remove
them.
And
I'm
glad
you
said
if
they
do
move
them,
then
they'd
have
to
bring
them
up
to
to
current
standards.
C
So
I
really
appreciate
that
and
one
thing
I
wanted
to
put
on
a
record
that
I
didn't
get
to
do
on
the
last
one,
and
I
I
I
put
a
note
up
there,
but
I
wanted
to
say
thank
you
for
one
of
the
things
you
did
do
on
the
last
bill,
and
I
know
it's
not
on
this,
but
I
wanted
to
put
it
on
here
to
let
you
know
the
insurance
companies
when
they
do
to
the
cars
and
we
have
to
pay
special
insurance.
C
D
A
F
N
Good
afternoon,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
mel
hall
crawford
for
the
record
m-e-l-h-a-l-l
hyphen
crawford
c-r-a-w-f-o-r-d.
I
am
the
director
of
energy
programs
at
the
consumer
federation
of
america.
N
We've
long
been
supporters
of
cost
effective
energy
efficient
if
energy
efficiency
policies
and
programs
for
several
decades,
because
simply
they
save
consumers
money
on
their
utility
bills
and,
in
addition,
they
help
mitigate
climate
change.
I
appreciate
this
opportunity
to
speak
in
favor
of
ab383.
N
N
Data
provided
by
the
low
income
housing
coalition
indicates
that
21
of
nevada
rental
households
fall
into
the
low
income
category.
Whoever
is
paying
the
bill.
The
renter
or
the
landlord
will
benefit
through
lower
bills
as
a
result
of
efficiency.
Standards
in
closing
approval
of
ab-383
will
cut
unnecessary
energy
and
waterways,
save
consumers,
money
and
businesses
as
well
and
reduce
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
N
F
H
F-T-E-V-E-N-B-E-R-R-Y,
I
am
a
volunteer
member
of
the
sierra
club
legislative
committee
on
behalf
of
the
sierra
club
and
our
40
000
members
and
supporters
in
nevada.
I
speak
in
strong
support
of
ab-383
nevada
is
on
the
front
lines
of
the
climate
crisis
with
the
fastest
warming
city
in
the
nation,
an
ongoing
air
quality
crisis
and
decades-long
drought.
H
Our
state
has
made
great
strides
in
combating
climate
change,
with
our
goal
for
100
renewable
energy
by
2050,
but
we
also
need
to
adopt
common-sense
legislation
that
ensures
we
are
adopting
utility
production
and
consumer
standards
that
synergize
to
support
our
statewide
goals.
This
legislation
ab-383
would
establish
minimum
energy-efficient
levels
for
consumer
products
and
businesses,
which
is
essential
in
ensuring
our
end-use
energy
consumption,
is
as
efficient
as
possible
in
nevada.
H
The
standards
outlined
in
this
bill
do
not
impact
appliances
that
are
currently
installed,
but
rather
they
will
provide
for
affordable,
highly
efficient
options
to
be
available
when
business
and
individuals
need
to
replace
their
current
systems.
The
proposed
standards
were
also
carefully
selected
based
on
product
availability,
cost
effectiveness
established
and
proven
test
procedures
and
replicability
with
other
states.
H
F
O
Chair
chairman
monroe
mourinho
vice
chair,
howard,
watts
and
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
charles
bell.
It's
c-h-a-r-l-e-s-b-e-l-l.
O
I
am
programs
director
for
the
advocacy
division
of
consumer
reports,
we're
a
non-profit
organization
that
tests
products
and
services
and
publishes
consumer
reports
magazine
and
consumerreports.org.
O
Just
the
air
purifier
standards
alone
would
help
you
reduce
utility
bills
by
about
30
dollars
per
year
for
the
average
nevada
consumer
or
about
270
over
the
life
of
the
product
over
nine
years,
and
we
think
it's
particularly
important
that
standards
apply
to
products
like
air
purifiers,
which,
for
which
demand
is
growing
about
45
percent
over
over
a
five-year
period.
And
these
are
some
of
these
products
can
use
as
much
energy
per
year
as
a
refrigerator.
O
So
it
is
very
important
that
we
make
sure
that
they're,
efficient
and
they're
affordable
and
that
consumers
will
have
a
wide
range
of
of
choices
for
efficient
products.
So
for
all
these
reasons,
consumer
reports
is
a
strong
supporter
of
ab383,
and
we
urge
you
to
please
co-sponsor
and
vote
yes
on
this
important
bill,
and
we
commend
you
for
your
leadership
in
in
introducing
and
discussing
this
bill.
F
S
A-N-G-I-E-D-Y-K-E-M-A
and
I'm
a
consultant
for
the
southwest
energy
efficiency
project,
based
here
in
nevada,
wanted
to
thank
the
committees
and
the
bell
sponsor
for
hearing
this
bill
today
and
voice.
The
number
of
reasons
that
sweep
is
strongly
in
support
of
appliance
efficiency
standards
for
one,
as
it's
already
been
mentioned,
this
bill
would
help
address
our
climate
crisis,
as
mentioned
in
the
nevada.
S
S
So,
in
addition
to
that
many
states,
15
other
states
have
already
considered
legislation
to
adopt
and
update
appliance
efficiency
standards
and
nevada
doesn't
want
to
be
left
behind,
especially
with
our
climate
goals.
We
want
to
promote
energy,
affordability,
protect
consumers,
and
this
is
a
perfect
way
of
doing
so.
I
also
want
to
bring
attention
to
a
support
letter.
That's
uploaded
under
the
exhibits
on
nellis
by
15,
it's
a
sign-on
letter
in
support
by
15
different
businesses,
including
schneider
electric,
the
pool
and
hot
tub
alliance
field,
consumer
report
catagonia
and
a
number
of
others.
S
F
Q
Good
afternoon,
chairman
moreno
and
committee
members,
my
name
is
matt
walker,
m-a-t-t
w-a-l-k-e-r,
and
I'm
testifying
in
opposition
of
assembly
bill
383
today
on
behalf
of
southern
nevada
homebuilders,
as
we've
mentioned
to
the
bill
sponsor
many
of
you
and
and
state
regulators.
Southern
nevada,
home
builders
supports
the
state
climate
goals
and
just
simply
asks
to
be
at
the
table
when
the
rubber
hits
the
road
on
different
measures
that
may
impact
the
belt
environment,
and
I
can
definitely
say
that
assemblyman
watts
has
checked
that
box.
Q
He
has
been
readily
available
and
mr
fady
and
others
have
been
quick
to
answer
questions
and
kick
around
additional
concepts,
and
we're
greatly
appreciative
of
that.
I
simply
want
to
draw
the
committee's
attention
to
two
elements
that
we
hope
to
continue
working
with
the
sponsor
to
resolve.
The
first
is
the
fact
that
the
fireplace
standards
that
reference
the
canadian
standard
deviate
from
the
state
of
washington's
adoption
language
a
bit
and
that
they
don't
reference
an
aad
standard
or
other
corresponding
international
standard.
Q
That
would
not
only
make
compliance
easier,
but
also
make
custom
work
that
needs
to
be
field
certified
easier
to
be
certified
under
the
standard,
and
that's
super
important
for
southern
nevada's
economy,
where
we
see
gaming,
restaurants
and
other
kind
of
exciting
venues
do
one-off
projects
that
require
that
type
of
certification.
I
think
it's
really
important
to
make
that
work.
Q
The
humboldters
have
significant
concerns
that,
because
of
the
size
of
our
market,
that
manufacturers
simply
will
make
less
products
available
or
not
bother
to
register
them,
whereas
something
that
proactively
allows
them
to
list
to
an
international
standard
allows
for
developer
or
other
end
user
to
certify
compliance
on
their
behalf,
instead
of
relying
simply
on
on
the
availability
of
a
product
that
the
manufacturer
has
reached
out
to
the
regulator
and
proactively
registered.
So
we
look
forward
to
continuing
to
work
with
mr
watts,
and
I
appreciate
the
committee's
time
to
hear
our
concerns.
A
F
B
J-O-R-D-A-N-K-R-A-H-E-N-B-U-H-L,
I
am
the
executive
director
for
the
plumbing
heating
cooling
contractors
of
nevada.
I
am
speaking
against
av-383
the
uniform
plumbing
code
and
uniform
mechanical
code.
Chapter
3
require
that
all
products
be
listed
and
labeled
by
a
listing
agency
to
a
nationally
recognized
standard
standards
for
products
are
developed
by
nationally
recognized
criteria.
Listing
agencies
also
have
criteria.
B
B
A
F
J
Thank
you,
chairwoman
and
roman
reigns.
This
is
david
bobsien
with
the
governor's
office
of
energy.
I
appreciate
that
the
hour's
getting
late
so
I'll
try
to
be
brief
here,
but
do
want
to
explain
sort
of
our
perspectives
on
the
bill.
I
want
to
begin
by
thanking
sponsor
vice
chair
watts,
for
working
on
this
concept,
with
our
office
from
the
very
beginning
and
being
so
inclusive,
as
has
been
made
clear
by
others
who
have
testified
so
far
in
this
process.
J
Yes,
appliance
standards
are
included
in
the
battle
climate
strategy
and
we
look
forward
to
there
being
able
to
reduce
the
energy
burden
faced
by
so
many
of
our
citizens,
while
at
the
same
time
cleaning
our
air
and
helping
us
meet
our
climate
goals.
We
are
neutral
on
ab383
as
written
out
of
concern
with
some
of
the
implementation
details
that
have
been
discussed
quite
thoroughly
during
this
hearing.
We
are
also,
I
do
want
to
know
working
on
a
fiscal
note
for
the
bill.
J
But
again,
this
is,
as
the
bill
is
written,
we're
very
much
appreciative
and
supportive
of
the
sponsors
amendment
that
was
proposed
this
afternoon
and
just
wanted
to
let
the
committee
know
that,
should
the
bill
progress
with
the
amendment
because
of
the
amendments
and
also
with
our
anticipated
workload,
opening
up
a
little
bit
with
the
hoped
for
sun
setting
of
the
green
building
tax
abatement
program,
we
will
be
able
to
remove
that
fiscal
note
and
go
forward.
J
I
want
to
particularly
express
our
excitement
about
section
37,
the
flexible
demand
technologies.
It's
important
to
note
that
subsection,
3
c
the
need
for
our
office
to
consult
with
the
public
utilities.
Commission
we
take
that
responsibility
very
seriously
working
with
both
the
commission
and
mb
energy
in
particular.
Recognizing
that
you
know
the
puc
is
ultimately
responsible
for
the
deployment
of
these
technologies,
sensitive
to
rate
impacts
and
and
all
the
the
implementation
details,
but
we
would
be
playing
a
a
very
defined
role
solely
on
the
technology
certification
side.
J
It
is,
as
was
discussed
by
someone
peters,
with
her
questioning
and
and
sponsor
assemblyman
watts,
a
very
exciting
area
for
the
future,
both
for
consumers
and
for
innovation
in
this
state.
The
possibility
of
what
comes
next
with
the
electrical
grid
when
it
comes
to
flexible
load
technologies,
also
appreciated
the
assemblyman,
pointing
out
that
our
regulations
are
based
on
certainly
are
promulgated
in
accordance
with
the
apa
administrative
procedures
act.
J
We
have
lots
of
experience
working
with
these
regulations,
as
has
been
noted
when
it
comes
to
light
bulbs.
So
with
that,
madam
chair
would
stand
for
any.
F
N
Mb
energy
has
long
supported,
improving
energy
efficiency
in
customers,
homes
and
businesses
by
educating
our
customers
on
the
opportunities
to
save
energy
through
conservation,
installing
more
energy,
efficient
appliances
and
utilizing
no-cost
low-cost
ways
to
save
money
on
their
utility
bills
for
eligible
low-income
customers.
We
offer
free
ac
tune-ups
and
are
extremely
proud
of
our
new
program
this
year,
that
provides
free
energy,
efficient
appliances,
including
new
refrigerators
and
dryers.
That
is
that
which
will
be
which
has
been
helpful
to
so
many
during
this
pandemic
by
reducing
their
energy
consumption.
N
We
also
applaud
the
introduction
of
flexible
demand
technologies
into
this
concept.
Flexible
load,
not
just
load
reduction,
will
be
critical
to
meet
our
climate
goals
going
forward,
and
I
really
appreciated
the
conversation
around
this
topic
and
equally
excited.
As
the
chair
and
director
bozian,
I
bring
up
our
energy
efficiency
and
demand
response.
Customer
programs
to
the
committee
to
raise
awareness
that
these
proposed
alliance
proposed
of
clients,
energy
efficiency
standards,
would
inform
the
design
of
our
programs
and
incentives
going
forward
just
like
the
lighting
standards
put
forth
by
this
committee
last
session.
N
Lastly,
we
look
forward
to
working
with
vice
chair
watts
regarding
how
these
regulations
will
be
enforced,
but
I
believe
director,
bob
zian's
comments
just
recently-
has
gone
a
long
way
in
addressing
some
of
those
issues.
Thank
you,
chair
monroe,
moreno
for
the
time
and
the
opportunity
today
before
your
committee
to
discuss
energy
efficiency
standards
and
its
importance
for
all
nevadans.
That
concludes
their
testimony.
D
Yes,
very
briefly,
thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee,
so
that
folks
can
get
onto
their
next
committees,
if
applicable,
again,
howard
watts
for
the
record.
Thank
you
all
for
your
time
and
consideration
of
assembly
bill
383,
as
I
noted
earlier,
we'll
continue
to
work
with
some
of
the
folks
that
have
some
technical
concerns
and
we'll
make
some
adjustments.
D
I
know
we
did
find
something
else
in
the
in
the
current
language
that
relates
to
plumbing
and,
as
I
noted,
we
already
took
care
of
plumbing
fixtures
in
another
piece
of
legislation,
so
we'll
modify
that
and
we'll
continue
to
talk
with
other
folks
to
make
technical
clarifications
that
align
the
intent
in
a
way
that
that
works
for
for
the
entities.
D
We
may
still
have
some
policy
disagreements
at
the
end,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
that
the
language
is
clear
and
how
it
will
be
implemented
so
committed
to
doing
that
and
getting
back
to
you
with
any
final
adjustments
that
are
needed
to
make
sure
that
the
bill
can
be
implemented
well
and
with
that.
Thank
you
again.
I
urge
your
support
for
assembly
bill
383.
A
F
B
My
name
is
michael
hanson
m-I-c-h-a-e-l-h-a-n-s-e-n,
and
I
seem
to
be
in
the
wrong
place
because
the
agenda
said
that
ab
379
would
be
discussed
today,
since
I've
invested
two
hours
plus
of
my
life
waiting
for
a
turn
to
talk,
I
would
like
to
at
least
enter
my
open
comments
on
that
bill.
I
B
A
F
F
B
I
seem
to
have
been
in
the
wrong
place
because
the
agenda
I
read,
said
that
ab379
would
be
discussed
today
and
that
hasn't
happened,
but
having
invested
two
plus
hours
of
my
life
listening
to
the
other,
builds
I'd
like
to
put
my
comments
in
on
379,
hopefully
to
be
considered
when
it
is
brought
up
I've.
I
read
the
language
of
the
bill
several
times,
trying
to
figure
out
what
it
was
going
to
try
and
actually
positively
accomplish
and
came
up
empty.
B
A
I
thank
you
so
much
for
staying
on
the
line
for
the
two
and
a
half
hours
and
ab
379
is
on
the
agenda
for
thursday
april
1st.
A
F
A
A
C
One
for
you
did
you
say
that
we'd
probably
be
next
friday.
We
would
be
probably
doing
a
hearing.