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A
B
E
B
B
Before
we
begin
today's
meeting,
I
want
to
briefly
review
how
our
virtual
meetings
work,
and
I
know
this
is
repetitive
for
those
of
you
that
join
us
every
day
and
I'm
sorry,
but
we
have
some
that
do
not
the
legislative
building
remains
closed
to
the
public,
and
so
all
committee
meetings
will
be
held
virtually
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members
staff
and
everyone
else
will
be
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could,
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meeting
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B
Also,
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leave
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on
so
that
we
can
maintain
a
quorum
throughout
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meeting
today
and
please
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This
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B
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will
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today's
agenda,
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hear
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up
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participate
during
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comment
period,
which
will
be
at
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end
of
today's
meeting.
B
B
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and
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B
B
So
I
know
you
all
are
tired
of
presentations,
but
we
have
some
really
great
presentations
for
you
today
and
we
finally
have
some
bills
that
have
been
referred
to
our
committee,
so
we
will
be
getting
into
bills
coming
up
really
soon,
but
going
on
for
presentations
about,
subject
matter
interests
of
this
committee.
We
will
start
out
today
with
a
presentation
from
representatives
from
envy
energy,
and
I
believe
we
have
mr
doug
cannon,
the
president
and
ceo,
mr
tony
sanchez,
the
executive
vice
president
of
business
relations
and
external
development.
B
There
may
be
a
few
other
people
with
them
from
envy
energy
that
may
be
speaking
also
today.
So
in
the
energy,
if
you
are
in
the
room,
you
now
have
the
virtual
for,
and
you
can
start
whenever,
you're
ready.
F
Good
morning,
chairman
roe
mourinho,
this
is
doug
cannon,
I'm
president
and
ceo
of
nb
energy,
and
I
very
much
appreciate
the
invitation
to
share
what's
going
on
in
nevada
energy
with
your
committee
and
so
again
appreciate
the
invitation
I
do
have
with
me.
Tony
sanchez
he's
our
executive.
Vice
president
he's
just
off
camera
right
here,
and
then
we
do
have
some
of
our
colleagues
also
with
us
today.
In
case
specific
questions
come
up,
but
again
I
appreciate
the
invitation
and
the
honor
to
be
here.
F
I
did
want
to
begin
today
by
just
right
off
the
bat
hitting
on
an
issue
of
national
significance.
As
we've
all
watched
over
the
past
week,
we've
seen
the
energy
issues
that
have
arisen
in
texas,
and
I
know
that
can
create
questions
for
all
of
us
and
the
question
naturally
could
be
asked.
Could
we
see
something
like
that
happen
here
in
nevada?
F
The
answer
to
that
is,
nevada
is
situated
from
an
energy
perspective
very
differently
than
where
texas
is
first.
Texas
is
a
deregulated
energy
market.
They
have
a
lot
of
different
energy
providers
in
the
state.
They
don't
have
a
central
regulated
utility
like
we
have
here
in
nevada,
so
many
of
those
checks
and
those
protections
that
exist
under
the
regulated
model
don't
exist
in
texas
and
they're,
seeing
the
consequences
of
that
this
past
week.
In
part,
I
I
will
raise
an
example.
F
We
all
see
media
reports
over
the
last
few
days
of
individuals
receiving
electric
bills
in
excess
of
tens
of
ten
thousand
dollars.
I
saw
one
media
report.
It
was
as
high
as
seventeen
thousand
dollars
for
an
individual
electric
bill
with
the
protections
that
we
have
the
regulated
nature
of
nv
energy,
our
relationship
with
the
public
utilities,
commission
and
the
fact
that
they
set
all
of
our
rates.
F
We
would
not
see
that
same
thing
happen
here
in
nevada,
the
customers
of
nv
energy
and
the
residents
of
the
state
of
nevada
that
we
serve
are
protected
from
that
occurring
under
our
regulated
model.
Second,
in
nevada
we
have
a
long-term
planning
process
and
and
so
being
regulated
by
the
public
utilities.
Commission,
we
submit
long-term
plans
that
addresses
the
generation
resources
that
we
have
to
meet
the
needs
of
nevadans.
F
It
addresses
our
transmission
structure.
It
addresses
all
aspects
of
our
business
to
make
sure
we're
looking
out
10
20,
even
30
years
into
the
future,
to
make
sure
we
have
the
resources
to
meet
the
electric
needs
of
our
state
and
that
also
provides
a
tremendous
protection
to
the
customers
that
we
serve
and
to
the
nevada
economy
to
to
be
protected
from
the
very
events
that
happened
in
texas
now,
that
said,
we
do
need
as
a
state
to
continue
to
invest
in
infrastructure,
ahead
of
growth
and
and
the
demand
that
would
be
associated
with
growth.
F
It's
critically
important
that
we
look
at
issues
like
transmission
and
make
sure
we
are
investing
in
transmission
so
that
we
not
only
have
a
robust
transmission
grid
within
nevada,
but
we
also
have
a
transmission
grid
that
allows
us
to
utilize
the
broader
western
energy
markets
so
that
we
can
pull
resources
from
other
states
when
the
need
arises.
That
was
another
challenge
that
occurred
in
texas.
Is
they
don't
have
that
interconnected
transmission
grid
to
pull
energy
from
a
broader
region?
F
We
have
that
in
nevada.
We
want
to
continue
to
have
that
in
nevada,
and
that
requires
us
to
invest
in
transmission
infrastructure.
I'll
talk
to
you
in
the
presentation
today
about
the
green
link,
nevada
project.
That
is
a
project
that
we
are
building
in
order
to
have
greater
transmission
reliability
and
have
a
greater
transmission
exposure
in
our
state.
F
We
also
need
to
continue
to
look
at
adding
additional
renewable
energy
resources
and
battery
storage
or
other
forms
of
storage
in
our
state
to
make
sure
we
have
those
energy
resources
to
meet
our
future
needs,
and
I
assure
you
we
are
very
focused
on
ensuring
we're
meeting
the
future
needs
of
the
state.
We're
engaged
with
the
public
utilities.
F
Commission
we're
engaged
with
other
stakeholders
around
the
state
to
make
sure
we
don't
face
those
same
consequences
that
we
all
have
seen
in
texas
and
our
hearts
go
out
to
the
state
of
texas
and,
and
certainly
it's
been
a
terrible
set
of
circumstances
in
the
human
life
that's
been
lost
and
the
the
lives
that
have
been
turned
upside
down.
The
economic
damage.
F
So
just
jumping
into
the
prepared
remarks
that
we
have
today
and
we've
got
a
a
presentation
here
that
we'll
put
up
on
the
screen
that
we
can
walk
through
just
a
quick
overview.
Envy
energy
has
been
serving
nevadans
for
over
150
years.
We've
got
about
1.5
million
customers
that
we
serve
throughout
the
state.
We
are
an
electric
utility,
but
up
here
in
northern
nevada,
we
also
serve
about
175
000
natural
gas
customers,
so
we
serve
the
reno
sparks
area
as
the
gas
provider
for
that
region.
F
F
And
it's
a
it's
tremendous
to
work
with
such
a
dedicated
team.
We
contributed
about
314
million
dollars
in
payroll
to
this
to
the
nevada
economy
last
year
and
we
totaled.
We
contributed
about
231
million
dollars
in
total
tax
base
to
the
state,
so
we
we
enjoy
making
being
a
significant
financial
player
in
the
state
of
nevada.
F
Another
part
that
makes
nv
energy
so
fantastic
to
work
with
is
the
dedication
those
2
400
employees
that
I
told
you
about
my
colleagues,
the
dedication
that
they
have
to
the
communities
that
we
serve.
It
goes
beyond
just
making
sure
these
communities
have
reliable
electric
service.
We
live
in
these
communities.
This
is
where
we're
raising
families
and
what
we,
where
we
call
home,
and
we
we
really
truly
do
want
to
make
our
communities
a
better
place.
F
Nv
energy
employees
have
donated
more
than
51
000
hours
of
community
service
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
It's
it
that's
a
tremendous
showing
of
dedication
and
really
shows
where
all
the
colleagues
that
I
have
the
chance
to
work
with
it
shows
where
their
priorities
are
and
that's
their
communities
that
they
serve
all
right.
Obviously,
in
2020
we
have
been
dealing
with
the
covid
pandemic.
F
It
did
cause
us
to
operate
differently.
We
were
the
first
utility
in
the
state
of
nevada
to
suspend
disconnections
for
non-payment
to
ensure
that
our
customers
knew
that
they
would
continue
to
have
reliable
electric
service
throughout
the
pandemic.
We
continue
to
work
with
our
community
partners
to
identify
payment
options
for
our
customers.
F
We
also
increased
contributions
to
our
reach
and
safe
program
so
that
individuals
that
we
serve,
who
are
struggling,
making
their
utility
payments
have
a
place
to
turn
to
to
get
relief,
and
then
we
have
also
set
up
alternative
payment
plans.
In
fact,
some
of
the
longest
payment
plans
that
we've
ever
offered
customers
so
that
they
can
pay
off
their
arrears
or
any
balances
that
are
due
without
them
being
disconnected
and
when
a
pa
a
customer
enters
into
a
payment
plan,
even
though
they
may
be
behind.
We
don't
disconnect
them.
F
We
continue
to
work
with
that
customer
to
try
to
find
solutions
for
their
utility
services
at
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic.
In
2020,
we
we
contributed
more
than
a
million
dollars
to
various
community
organizations
that
we're
providing
basic
life-sustaining
needs
for
our
community,
and
it's
something
we
take
a
lot
of
pride
in
being
able
to
do
something
else
that
we're
really
focused
on
and
absolutely
committed
to
is
driving
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion
in
our
organization.
F
More
than
60
percent
of
our
workforce
represents
diverse
demographics,
and
that's
something
that
we
take
a
lot
of
pride
in.
We
take
pride
in
having
all
of
those
perspectives
and
having
inclusive
perspectives
brought
to
the
table
when
we're
having
business
discussions,
and
it's
something
that
we
think
about
as
we're
making
decisions
is.
How
is
this
decision
going
to
affect
all
of
our
customer
demographics
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
in
we
manage
our
programs
and
administer
our
programs
and
provide
reliable
electric
service
to
all
of
our
customers,
and
it's
something
that's
critically
important.
F
We
contributed
to
more
than
85
non-profit
organizations
that
are
focused
on
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion
for
for
more
than
a
million
dollars
in
2020,
and
that
will
continue
to
be
one
of
our
tenants
of
of
community
engagement,
so
turning
from
kind
of
who
we
are
and
and
our
our
tenants
as
an
organization
and
some
of
the
the
things
that
drive
us
as
an
organization,
I
want
to
talk
about
costs
for
a
minute.
F
Energy
cost
is
always
the
subject
of
a
lot
of
people
get
energized
about
it
and
they
have
a
lot
of
questions
about
it
and
so
obviously
something
we
want
to
address
right
up
front
and
it's
something
that
we're
very
proud
of.
We
have
not
asked
for
a
rate
increase
for
our
customers
from
the
public
utilities.
Commission,
since
2011.
F
we've
gone
a
decade,
managing
our
business
within
what
the
commission
approved
back
in
2011
and,
in
fact,
we've
lowered
our
costs.
Our
costs
are
10
lower
today
than
they
were
in
2009
and
in
that
same
time,
frame,
we've
significantly
increased
850
percent,
the
amount
of
renewable
energy
that
our
customers
are
served
with.
F
So
not
only
are
they
paying
lower
costs,
they're
getting
greater
renewable
energy,
less
carbon
being
put
in
the
atmosphere
a
far
more
sustainable
energy
supply
as
we
go
forward
just
recently,
we
reduced
our
rates
by
nearly
7
million
dollars
for
our
northern
nevada
customers,
and
just
last
year
we
provided
our
southern
nevada
customers
with
120
million
dollar
bill
credit
in
the
end
of
the
year
and
then
reduced
rates
by
another
93
million
dollars
on
january
first.
F
These
are
the
biggest
race
rate,
reductions
that
we've
ever
seen
at
nb
energy
and
couldn't
have
come
at
a
better
time
for
our
customers
and-
and
we
really
hope
that
those
efforts
are
are
appreciated
by
the
customer
and
and
we
hope
that
it
helps-
I
mean
that's
really.
What
it
is
is
the
timing
was
not
by
coincidence,
we
worked
hard
within
our
business
to
manage
the
business
in
a
way
that
would
allow
us
to
provide
some
economic
relief
to
our
customers.
F
Turning
a
little
bit
more
to
our
renewable
energy
portfolio,
we
have
really
been
focused
on
increasing
our
renewable
energy
portfolio.
Right
now,
we
have
56
utility
scale
renewable
energy
projects
throughout
the
state.
Those
are
geothermal
projects,
those
are
solar
projects.
We
have
a
wind
project,
we
have
some
small
hydro
projects,
but
it's
a
broad
portfolio
of
renewable
energy
projects
right
now
we're
serving
our
customers
with
just
under
30
renewable
energy.
F
So
you
know,
I
think,
a
lot
of
folks
probably
don't
recognize
that,
but
30
percent
of
the
energy
they
receive
every
single
day
is
renewable
and
we
are
on
track
to
achieve
a
50
renewable
portfolio
standard
by
2030.
As
was
proposed
by
the
legislature
in
this
in
last
session,
and
we
are
certainly
focused
on
driving
either
even
more
renewables,
we
have
an
aspirational
goal
of
someday
serving
our
customers
with
100
renewable.
F
We
have
recently
announced
a
number
of
additional
renewable
energy
projects
since
2018
we've
had
those
projects
approved
by
the
public
utilities.
Commission,
you
can
see
a
list
of
projects
there
on
the
screen.
All
of
these
projects
are
currently
under
construction,
so
we're
putting
nevadans
to
work
on
these
projects.
They
all
represent
economic
development
throughout
the
state
of
nevada.
F
One
program
that
we
are
particularly
proud
of-
and
I
want
to
thank
chair
monroe
moreno
for
her
leadership
on
this
program-
is
our
expanded,
solar
access
program.
This
is
a
program
that
was
really
designed
to
ensure
that
every
one
of
our
customers,
independent
of
their
demographic,
independent
of
their
income
level,
is
able
to
receive
the
benefits
of
renewable
energy.
F
We're
excited
that
the
first
project
will
be
occurring
at
mojave
high
school,
it's
a
title
one
school
and
that
will
really
provide
opportunities
for
the
school
to
benefit
from
the
renewable
energy,
but
also
will
provide
an
opportunity
for
that
community
to
see
solar
in
action
to
see
that
solar
can
be
a
part
of
their
community
and
and
it's
it's
going
to
be
great.
We've
got
a
number
of
these
projects
that
will
be
locating
throughout
the
state.
The
sighting
for
the
other
projects
has
not
been
decided,
yet.
F
F
We
will
say
the
the
rulemaking
on
this
one
got
bogged
down
a
little
bit
that
wasn't
due
to
anybody's
fault.
It
was
really
due
to
you,
know,
covid19
and
trying
to
work
through
rule
makings
with
kobit
19
in
place,
but
we
did
move
forward
with
that.
First
project
and
it's
now
been
approved
by
the
public
utilities,
commission
so
very
excited
to
see
that
project
move
forward
and
get
that
project
in
place.
F
In
addition
to
looking
at
renewable
energy,
both
on
a
utility
scale,
as
well
as
a
smaller
scale
like
the
expanded
access,
we
also
are
very
focused
on
energy
efficiency.
It
becomes
part
of
our
overall
grid
management
strategy,
and
so
we
show
here
on
slide
nine.
A
number
of
the
energy
efficiency
programs
that
we
run
for
our
customers-
and
I
want
to
highlight
these-
are
programs
are
available
for
every
customer,
and
so
we
encourage
customers
to
call
and
take
advantage
of
these
services.
F
Things
like
getting
a
free
thermostat,
and
these
are
thermostats
that
can
be
controlled
remotely
with
an
app
their
smart,
thermostats
they're
they're,
a
great
resource
home
energy
audits
can
be
done,
and
these
are
really
programs
that
that
we
do
hope.
Every
one
of
our
customers,
low
income,
elderly,
those
on
fixed
incomes
can
be.
They
can
be
particularly
helpful
for
those
customers,
because
we
can
identify
ways
in
which
to
lower
their
energy
costs.
There's
also
programs
available
for
our
commercial
customers
and
so
small
businesses
as
they're,
trying
to
continue
to
recover
from
covid19.
F
Now
that
provide
energy
to
the
grid
that
we
work
with
those
homeowners
and
and
compensate
them
for
the
energy
that
they
provide
the
grid
right
now,
those
homeowners
are
providing
more
than
500
megawatts
of
energy
to
our
system,
that's
equivalent
to
one
of
the
really
big
power
plants
that
you
see
as
you're
driving
through
apex
or
if
you
drive
down
I-80
and
go
past,
our
tracy
power
plant
near
innovation
park
that
500
megawatts
is
equivalent
to
some
of
the
size
of
those
power
plants.
So
that's
a
significant
amount
of
energy.
F
We
do
have
incentives
that
continue
to
be
offered
to
our
customers,
to
put
in
battery
storage,
to
put
in
charging
infrastructure
for
electric
vehicles
and
continue
to
try
to
drive
these
consumer-based
programs
to
ensure
that
we
are
providing
innovative
solutions
to
our
customers
and
meeting
their
demands.
F
As
we
look
at
the
governor's
climate
plan,
we
all
saw
that
the
transportation
sector
is
the
number
one
contributor
to
carbon
emissions
today
and
so
the
opportunity
to
electrify
that
transportation
system
is
tremendous.
F
It's
tremendous
from
an
efficiency
perspective,
it's
tremendous
from
a
carbon
reduction
perspective
and
we're
excited
to
be
on
the
leading
edge
of
transportation
electrification.
We
have
the
nevada
electric
highway,
we've
partnered
with
the
governor's
office,
as
well
as
the
governor's
office
of
energy
to
deploy
charging
infrastructure
throughout
the
state,
and
we
know
this
is
an
area
that
we
suspect.
F
We
have
some
conversations
during
this
legislative
session
and
this
is
an
area
we're
excited
about
the
opportunities
that
exist
for
nevada,
we're
excited
about
the
opportunities
to
invest
in
nevada,
invest
in
transportation,
electrification,
infrastructure,
so
that
nevada
can
continue
to
be
a
leader
in
in
this
in
this
field,
because
again,
tremendous
opportunities
in
this
area.
F
We
have
retired
or
eliminated
all
of
the
coal-fired
power
plants
that
serve
southern
nevada,
we're
on
track
to
retire
the
final
coal
plant,
that's
in
our
fleet,
that's
in
northern
nevada
facility
by
2025,
and
you
can
see
that
we
just
continue
to
have
reduced
carbon
emissions
in
our
state
and
that's
something
that
we
continue
to
be
dedicated
to,
as
we
think
about
our
plans
as
we
go
through
our
long-term
planning
process.
Carbon
emission
reduction
is
an
important
part
of
that
planning
and
again
something
that
we're
very
committed
to
achieving
and
advancing.
F
I'm
really
excited
about
the
green
link
nevada
project.
Here
we
have
a
map
on
the
page.
I
don't
know
if
any
of
you
have
heard
about
it.
We
currently
have
this
greenlink
nevada
transmission
project
pending
before
the
public
utilities,
commission
of
nevada
and
hope
to
have
a
decision
from
the
commission
in
the
next
month
or
so,
but
really
what
the
green
link
nevada
project
is,
as
you
can
see,
on
the
map,
green
link
west
goes
up
the
west
side
of
the
state.
F
This
transmission
infrastructure
is
going
to
bring
some
tremendous
benefits
to
the
state
of
nevada.
We
have
the
one
nevada
transmission
line
already
in
service
that
connects
las
vegas
to
elite,
and
it
allows
us
to
utilize
our
generation
assets
statewide
in
a
much
more
efficient
way,
but
one
concern
we
have
with
the
one
nevada
transmission
line.
Is
it's
a
single?
What
we
call
a
single
contingency
if
that
line,
fails,
there's
no
backup
and
all
of
a
sudden,
northern
and
southern
nevada
are
electrically
separated.
F
We
can't
operate
it
in
the
most
efficient
way
anymore
and
we
can't
meet
the
needs
with
renewable
resources
or
traditional
resources
and-
and
it
could
put
us
in
some
challenging
electrical
situations,
so
one
nevada
transmission
line.
The
first
benefit
is:
it
creates
a
redundancy
so
that
we
wouldn't
ever
find
ourselves.
In
that
situation,
we
will
have
a
more
reliable
electric
grid
for
the
entire
state.
A
second
benefit
of
the
one
of
the
green
link
projects
is
right.
F
Now,
there's
many
renewable
energy
projects
located
along
greenlink
north
and
along
greenlink
west
that
can't
be
developed
because
there's
no
way
to
take
that
energy
to
a
city
or
a
location
where
it
is
needed.
These
green
link
transmission
assets
will
open
up
all
of
that
area
to
be
developed
and
it'll,
make
it
possible
to
develop
those
renewable
energy
projects
and
further
expand
renewable
energy
development
in
the
state
of
nevada.
That's
fantastic
for
all
of
us
because
it
will
result
in
lower
energy
costs.
F
F
In
total,
the
green
link
projects
represent
about
2.5
billion
dollars
of
economic
development
for
our
state
and
would
equate
to
about
4
000
jobs
and
so
we're
trying
to
quickly
work
through
the
regulatory
approval
processes.
We
want
to
start
these
projects
as
quickly
as
we
can.
We
have
funding
we're
prepared
to
move
forward
with
these
projects
immediately
if
we
can
get
the
approval
and
this
can
put
nevadans
to
work.
F
This
can
be
part
of
our
economic
recovery
in
this
state,
and
we
all
know
that's
so
critically
important
as
we
come
out
of
covid
and
as
we
try
to
rebuild
the
nevada
economy
and
all
the
challenges
we've
had.
This
allows
us
to
diversify
that
economy
and
invest
in
the
long
term.
This
will
position
nevada
for
decades
to
come
with
additional
transmission
infrastructure,
and
this
actually
is
a
key
piece
of
helping
us
avoid
the
very
conditions
that
texas
saw.
This
becomes
really
a
critical
piece
of
that
as
we
look
at
our
long-term
life.
F
I've
talked
a
lot
here
about
green
length
already,
but
already
talked
about
some
of
the
environmental
benefits,
more
renewable
energy
that
will
advance
our
carbon
reduction
objectives
here
in
the
state
of
nevada
and
will
also
allow
us
to
diversify
our
renewable
portfolio.
It
positions
us
to
be
a
regional
player
in
the
west,
with
transmission
infrastructure
and
nevada
truly
can
be
a
renewable
energy
leader.
F
We
all
heard
governor
sislek
in
his
state
of
the
state
speech
back
in
2019
say
that
he
wanted
nevada
to
be
a
renewable
energy
leader
in
the
west,
and
he
reiterated
the
need
for
a
new
nevada
economy
in
his
latest
state
of
the
state
speech.
This
type
of
infrastructure
helps
us
achieve
that,
and
truly
be
that
that
leader
in
the
west,
consistent
with
that
vision,
are
already
talked
about
here.
F
The
job
benefits
I
think
one
thing
to
make
clear
is
you
know:
we've
heard
some
people
say
well
what
about
the
rate
effect
of
a
big
investment
like
that?
The
benefit
of
this
project
is
all
that
investment
will
go
into
communities.
All
of
those
people
will
be
put
to
work
and
there
won't
be
any
rate
effect
in
our
electric
bills
until
at
least
2025.
F
So
we
will
see
all
of
the
economic
benefits
on
the
front
end
and
we
won't
have
to
pay
any
of
the
costs.
Nv.
Energy
carries
those
costs
until
the
the
the
line
is
fully
placed
into
service
and
is
being
utilized,
and
the
benefits
are
coming
to
nevadans
and
much
of
the
cost
of
a
project
like
this
can
be
offset
through
lower
energy
costs
through
more
renewables,
and
so
we,
this
is
a
really
a
win-win
for
the
state.
Where
we
can
enjoy
the
benefits
up
front.
F
F
Already
talked
about
how
this
can
really
power
the
clean
energy
economy
and
and
drive
additional
jobs,
it
really
does
repre
bring
benefits
to
so
many
communities.
I
had
the
chance,
along
with
tony
tony,
and
I
drove
through
the
the
full
route
of
greenlink
nevada.
We
met
with
every
county,
commission
or
representatives
from
every
county
in
which
the
line
will
be
located,
and
there
was
tremendous
support
for
the
line.
They
recognized
the
opportunities
that
this
line
would
bring
to
the
state
and
into
these
rural
counties
throughout
the
state.
F
So
there
are
other
benefits
that
a
line
like
this
brings
with
it
on
this
final
slide,
really
it's
just
it's
the
future.
It's
nevada's
clean
energy
future.
It's
a
future!
We're
excited
about.
It's
a
future
we're
committed
to
it's
a
future
that
is
going
to
bring
a
sustainable
energy
supply
to
nevadans
for
generations
to
come,
but
is
also
an
economy.
It
also
brings
economic
benefits
to
ensure
that
nevadans
are
put
to
work
and
we
have
economic
development
throughout
our
state.
F
It
is
an
exciting
time
to
be
in
the
clean
energy
business
and
that's
the
business
that
we're
in
and
excited
to
work
with
each
of
you
on
advancing
our
clean
energy
future.
So
with
that,
I'm
going
to
pause
and
open
it
up.
I
would
welcome
questions
or
comments.
I
want
to
address
the
items
that
may
be
on
your
mind
and
make
sure
we
provide
you
some
opportunities.
So
I
appreciate
your
time.
B
A
I
I
believe
at
one
time,
nb
energy
actually
paid
your
they
paid
staff,
you
paid
staff
to
go
out
and
volunteer
in
community
organizations
and
I'm
curious
to
know.
Is
that
still
the
case?
Are
you
investing
in
staff
time
in
that
way?
And
then
my
second
question
is
you
talked
about
the
number
of
disconnections
for
non-payment?
A
How
many
customers
are
you
able
to
identify,
and
what's
that
fiscal
impact
for
the
folks
that
you
didn't
turn
the
energy
bill
off
on.
F
Yeah
so
assemblywoman,
I
appreciate
that
doug
cannon
for
the
record
and
the
energy
we
do
not
pay,
currently
pace
staff
to
go
out
and
do
provide
community
service
hours.
Now
I
will
say
it's
part
of
our
culture
and
our
character
as
a
company.
It's
something
that
we
want
to
advance.
We
encourage
employees.
We
make
time
available
for
employees
to
be
engaged
in
community,
giving
we,
for
example,
we
hold
our
annual
martin
luther
king
day
on
not
a
day
off
at
three
square
and
we
all
have
the
opportunity
to
go
and
work.
F
I
know
there's
employees
that
we
have
on
numerous
boards
and
we
make
it
a
big
deal
to
highlight
our
employees
out
working
in
the
community.
We
have
our
our
internal
newsletter.
We
highlight
employees
in
that
newsletter.
We
do
have
a
a
small
incentive
program
where
an
employee
can
earn
a
coffee
mug,
they
can
earn
a
t-shirt,
they
can
earn
a
jacket
as
they
have
progressively
more
volunteer
hours
in
the
community,
and
so
it
it.
It
really
is
just
a
representation
of
dedicated
employees
providing
that
51
000
hours
of
community
service.
F
Now
we,
we
certainly
do
invest
in
non-profits,
and
if
we
have
an
employee,
that's
on
a
board,
we
will
certainly
make
contributions,
and
I
shouldn't
say
just
organizations
where
we
have
an
employee
on
the
board.
We
make
contributions
to
lots
of
different
organizations
in
our
community
and-
and
you
know
so,
we
we
certainly
want
to
continue
to
support
the
non-profits
in
our
organization
that
provide
critical
community
services.
We
recognize
the
value
of
those
non-profits
in
our
community
and
we
want
to
further
advance
that
I
don't
have
the
specific.
F
Turning
to
your
second
question
about
the
number
of
customers
that
we
have,
who
have
an
outstanding
balance,
I
can
tell
you
that
it
went
at
one
point
over
300,
000
customers.
It
was
a
significant
number
of
our
customers
that
had
outstanding
balances.
F
At
one
point
now
our
community
partners
like
clark
county,
like
city,
north
las
vegas,
many
of
the
rural
counties
and
I'll
get
in
trouble,
as
I
start
to
name
them
because
I'll
I'll
shirt
I'll
miss
somebody,
and
so
I
apologize
to
our
community
partners
for
that,
but
they
have
certainly
helped
that
cares.
Act,
funding
to
certainly
help
reduce
those
arrears
significantly,
we
have
tens
of
thousands.
Last
time
I
saw
the
numbers
it
was
over
25
000
customers
that
we
had
on
special
payment
arrangements.
F
Some
of
those
payment
arrangements
can
be
stretched
out
over
18
months
in
order
to
try
to
set
up
arrangements
that
really
work
for
customers.
We've
also
tried
to
come
up
with
other
unique
solutions
for
customers.
Some
pay,
as
you
go
other
types
of
products
that
that
best
meet
an
individual
customer's
needs.
F
So
it's
something
that
we're
dedicated
to
continuing
to
find
solutions,
but
it
certainly
it
was
a
significant
challenge
during
covid
to
see
the
number
of
customers
that
we
had
that
were
not
able
to
pay
their
bills
and
the
arrears
numbers
were
significant,
and
we
also
continue
to
work
with
the
public
utilities
commission
on
finding
long-term
solutions
on
those
dollars
in
case
they
are
recovered.
And
how
do
we
minimize
the
impact
on
on
all
of
our
customers
to
make
sure
that
reliable
electric
service
is
still
there.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chairman.
My
computer
took
a
hit
again.
I
do
have
one
actually
too
miss
cannon
and
I
was
kind
of
shocked
and
seeing
how
fast
the
solar
field
went
up
in
and
outside
of
battle.
Mountain
for
valmie
is.
Is
that
solar
field
actually
going
to
when
it's
done?
Will
it
produce
the
the
megawatts
that
it's
going
to
need
for
for
that
area?
D
I
was
kind
of.
I
was
shocked
how
fast
that
thing
went
up
it
just
boom.
It
was
there
one
day
and
I
called
the
senator,
and
I
said:
hey
did
you
know
this
thing's
going
up
and
he
goes
yeah.
I
was
kind
of
shocked
that
one
day
it
wasn't
there
and
the
next
day
it's
being
built,
and
so
I
know
that
we've
been
watching
balmy
quite
a
bit
to
see
what
was
going
to
happen.
So
could
you
is
that
solar
field
going
to
be
able
to
hold
the
megawatts?
F
Yeah
so,
first
off
you're
right,
those
solar
plants
can
go
in
really
fast
once
the
permitting's
there
once
that
basic
land
use
planning
processes
through
they're,
really
almost
kind
of
a
big
lego
set
anymore,
and
they
they
go
in
very
quickly.
And
it's
not
it's
not
complicated
construction,
which
is
a
benefit
because
then
we
can
start
to
get
the
benefits
of
those
projects
quickly
for
our
customers.
F
When
we
talk
about
replacing
the
output
from
the
baume
plant,
it
isn't
any
one
solar
facility,
that's
going
to
replace
that
output.
That's
part
of
what
we
do
in
our
integrated
resource
planning
process
is
we
look
at
a
plant
like
valmie
and
the
historic
support
that
it's
provided,
that
region
of
the
state
and
we
want
to
make
sure
we
put
together
a
portfolio
of
resources
to
ensure
that
we
can
provide
that
same
level
of
reliable
service
to
our
customers
in
the
elko
area,
the
battle
mountain
area.
F
We
recognize
that's
a
critically
important
area
for
our
state,
economically
with
the
mining
loads
that
are
out
there.
Those
are
some
of
the
biggest
electric
loads
that
we
see
on
our
system,
and
so
we
plan
very
carefully
for
that
region
to
make
sure
we
can
support
those
loads
and
ensure
those
important
economic
drivers
continue
to
move,
and
so
certainly
the
battle
mountain
project
that
you
saw
and
you
referenced
will
be
one
piece
of
of
the
important
energy
supply
on
that
area.
But
it's
not
the
final
piece.
D
Thank
you
and
follow
up,
madam
sure.
The
other
thing
I've
got
is
you
know:
we've
been
following
that
we
had
a
lot
of
fires
up
north
and
plus
what
we
had
in
the
tahoe
basin,
but
are
you
being
able
to
get
permits
to
remove
underbrush
by
the
poles?
And
I
know
that's
been
a
problem
up
by
jar
bridge
up
that
way
in
hawaii?
Is
there
a
way
that
we
can
get
permitting
to
where
envy
energy
can
go
in
on
either
spray
or
remove
some
of
the
the
underbrush
from
the
poles?
F
Assemblyman,
thank
you
for
the
question,
doug
cannon
and
the
energy.
I
appreciate
you
asking
that
question.
We
worked
well.
This
legislative
body
in
the
last
session
passed
what
was
called
what
we
call
the
natural
disaster
protection
plan.
F
We
put
together
a
robust
plan
and
had
it
approved
by
the
public
utilities,
commission
of
nevada,
specifically
designed
to
help
mitigate
the
risk
of
natural
disasters
throughout
the
state
of
nevada,
and
that
includes
wildfire
risk
and
that
plan
was
approved
and
we
are
now
executing
on
that
plan.
One
of
the
components
of
that
plan
is
that
we
are
now
contracting.
F
Excuse
me,
with
local
fire
districts,
to
do
grubbing
and
clear
brush
clearing
exercises
underneath
our
poles
and
our
lines,
and
so
we
have
contracted
with
fire
suppression
agencies,
fire
districts
throughout
the
state
to
get
that
work
done.
Those
are
critically
important
relationships.
Those
fire
districts
know
where
some
of
the
highest
risk
fire
areas
are
they're
professionals
in
how
to
mitigate
fire
within
their
districts
and
so
we're
utilizing
their
expertise
and
we
fund
that
work
and
they
go
out
and
help
conduct
that
rubbing
underneath
our
lines.
F
That's
just
one
aspect
of
the
work
that
we're
doing:
we've
hired
vegetation
management,
crews
to
clear
rights
of
way
to
ensure
trees
and
branches
aren't
blowing
into
our
lines.
We've
conducted
more
than
40
000
pole
inspections
in
the
last
18
months
to
ensure
that
our
infrastructure
is
also
in
good
shape
and
that
can
withstand
wind
storms
so
that
we
don't
have
some
of
the
accidental
or
electric
associated
ignitions
that
we've
seen
over
in
california
and
some
of
our
neighboring
states.
F
So
it's
something
that
we're
very
actively
involved
with.
We
have
a
dedicated
team
that
works
on
fire
mitigation
activities
to
to
ensure
that
we
are
providing
our
customers,
the
safest,
opportu,
the
safest
electric
services
that
we
can
and
we're
always
looking
for
opportunities
to
improve
we're
constantly
reviewing
the
actions
that
we're
undertaking.
Because,
again,
we
are
committed
to
the
safety
of
our
community
and
and
want
to
make
sure
our
electric
supply
is
safe
and
we
don't
suffer
the
consequences.
D
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
you
know.
First
of
all,
I
just
want
to
commend
you
on
the
presentation
and
for
the
work
that
envy
energy
has
been
doing
to
advance
clean
energy
and
you
know
and
advance
towards
the
state's
climate
goals,
so
appreciate
the
leadership,
and
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
could
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
you
know.
You
mentioned
some
of
the
efficiency
programs
that
you
have
in
place,
and
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
also
talk
about.
E
I
think
I
don't
recall
if
you
mentioned
it
in
your
slides,
but
I
know
that
you've
just
started
a
qualified
replacement
program.
So
could
you
talk
a
little
bit
more
about?
You
know
some
of
those
efforts,
especially
efforts
that
are
targeted
to
lower
income
communities
and,
if
there's
anything
that
you
see
on
the
horizon
in
terms
of
using
smart
home
technology
and
other
things
to
increase
our
efficiency
and
demand
management.
F
Yeah
vice
chair,
I
I
appreciate
that
that
question
doug
cannon
nv
energy,
so
a
number
of
programs
that
we
have
designed
to
touch
to
touch
the
customer
directly
and
and
and
these
are
programs
that
we
try
to
design
so
that
they're
applicable
to
every
single
customer
and
in
fact,
some
of
these
customers.
We
really
do
want
to
make
sure
that
our
our
low-income
or
fixed-income
customers
are
aware
of
those
programs.
Things
like,
and
these
can
be
simple
things
like
replacing
light
bulbs
right.
F
It's
it's
getting
led
light
bulbs
into
a
home
versus
a
standard,
light
bulb
or
even
a
cfl,
because
anymore,
those
leds
can
be.
You
know
twice
as
efficient
as
even
the
compact
fluorescent
light
bulbs
were
a
few
years
ago.
You
mentioned
the
appliance
program.
That
is
one
where
customers
can
receive
significant
rebates
by
buying
a
more
energy
efficient
appliance.
F
We
recognize
at
times
there
is
a
bigger
upfront
cost
to
buying
that
more
energy
efficient
appliance,
and
so
we
want
to
make
that
rebate
available
so
that
anybody,
no
matter
their
economic
conditions,
can
make
the
right
choice
from
an
energy
efficiency
perspective
and
also
make
the
right
choice
from
a
long-term
economic
perspective.
If
we
don't
have
the
money
up
front,
sometimes
we
make
a
a
decision
based
on
our
available
budget
and
that
can
cost
us
more
in
the
long
term.
F
And
so
it
can
also
that
that
program
does
apply
to
both
dryers
as
well
as
refrigerators,
small
businesses
as
well.
I
really
encourage
minority
owned
businesses,
businesses
in
low-income
areas
that
serve
low-income
areas
of
our
state.
There
are
rebates
available
to
come
in
and
retrofit
lighting
to
retrofit
pumps
or
air
conditioning
or
hvac
equipment
stoves.
F
F
The
vast
majority
of
our
customers
are
on
smart
meters.
That,
in
turn
allows
us
to
provide
those
customers
with
much
more
granular
data
into
their
usage,
and
so
on,
our
app
that
we
now
have
available.
A
customer
can
actually
get
on
our
app
and
conduct
a
home
energy
assessment
through
the
app
and
can
identify
through
the
app
ways
in
which
they
can
reduce
their
energy
usage
and
save
themselves
money,
and
so
I
encourage
customers
to
do
that.
We
have
the
same
thing
available
on
our
website
where
they
can
conduct
that
home
energy
assessment.
E
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that
additional
information.
I
think
it's
really
helpful
for
for
me
and
and
for
other
members
of
the
committee
as
well
one
other,
I'm
not
sure.
If
it's
a
comment
or
a
question,
you
know.
I
know
that
you
know.
E
In
previous
decades
there
was
a
strong
education
and
marketing
effort
and
there
were
gold
medallion
homes
that
were
certified
for
being
all
electric
because
they
were
clean
and
it
was
the
it
was
the
way
to
go,
and
so
I'm
just
wondering,
as
we
look
at
moving
towards
a
100
clean
future.
E
What
what
are
you
thinking
in
terms
of
that
education
and
and
marketing
to
to
help
people
learn
about?
What's
out
there?
You
know
particularly
thinking
about
some
of
the
highly
efficient
options
like
heat
pumps,
for
for
water,
heating
and
space
heating
and
and
showing
folks
all
the
benefits.
F
Yeah
vice
chair,
I
appreciate
that
that
question,
doug,
cannon
and
v
energy
education
is
going
to
be
a
critically
important
part
of
a
successful
move
to
a
energy
supply.
That
is,
is
climate
aligned.
F
As
we
all
know,
we
are
creatures
of
of
tradition
and
creatures
of
habit
oftentimes,
and
we
are
going
to
have
to
help
individuals
understand
and
value
the
very
issues
that
you
just
raised.
We're
going
to
have
to
help
nevadans
recognize
the
environmental
benefits
that
come
from
a
sustainable
energy
supply,
we're
going
to
have
to
help
nevadans
recognize
and
understand
that
a
sustainable
energy
supply
can
in
fact
be
an
economic
energy
supply.
I
think
that's
a
misnomer,
that's
out
there.
I
think
people
automatically
think
that
sustainable
has
to
mean
more
expensive.
F
F
So
there
can
be
tremendous
benefits
and
we
just
have
to
help
overcome
some
of
the
misnomers
that
are
out
there
and
help
our
customers
see
the
real
facts,
and
I
think
that
will
take
all
of
us
engaging
together
us
as
the
energy
company
you
as
legislators,
and
community
leaders
us
engaging
with
a
coalition
of
stakeholders
and-
and
we
can
get
that
word
out
there
and
overcome
many
of
the
misconceptions
that
are
out
there.
But
it
really
is
a
great
answer
for
nevada
moving
to
a
sustainable
energy
supply.
F
Now
it
needs
to
happen
in
a
thoughtful,
planned
and
deliberate
way,
but
we
have
an
integrated
resource
planning
process
that
we
can
use
to
move
nevada
further
and
further
along
the
path
to
a
sustainable
energy
future.
And
it's
a
sustainable
energy
future
that
I'm
I'm
very
excited
about.
And
I
know
it's
going
to
bring
tremendous
benefits
to
our
customers.
It
can
start
in
their
homes,
but
it's
going
to
touch
the
transportation
sector.
C
Thank
you,
ma'am
cheryl
I'll,
be
brief,
and
I
I
thank
you
for
the
presentation,
mr,
and
and
yeah.
You
know
I
appreciate
everything.
Nb
energy
is
doing.
You
know
to
keep
utility
rates
low
and
in
clean
energy.
You
know
everything
you're
doing
just
remarkable.
C
About
what
was
going
on
in
texas-
and
you
know,
with
with
the
issues
they're
having
there-
and
I
read
an
article
recently
regarding
last
summer,
with
the
the
heat
wave
that
some
of
the
rate
payers
or
folks
that
left
the
system
you
had
to
had
to
help
them
out.
C
You
know
what
would
what
would
happen
if
question
three
would
have
passed?
Would
that
would
have
exasperated
the
problem?
Would
it
you
know
what
would
have
been
in
the
impact
of
that?
I'm
just
curious
if
that
would
have
had
the
same
effect
as
it's
happened
in
texas.
F
The
answer
assemblyman,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
supposed
to
state
my
name.
I
got
to
get
this
process
down:
doug
cannon
nv,
energy,
assemblyman,
you're,
you're,
absolutely
right!
If
question
three
would
have
passed,
nevada
would
have
moved
to
a
deregulated
market
and
that's
exactly
where
texas
is
in
fact,
in
many
of
the
proceedings
in
front
of
the
public
utilities.
Commission
texas
was
held
up
as
the
model
that
nevada
should
adopt,
and
so
that
is
the
risk
of
a
deregulated
market.
F
When
things
happen
that
there's
no
backstop,
and
so
we
saw
that
with
some
of
our
customers
here
in
nevada
last
summer,
some
of
our
customers
are
have
made
the
decision
to
be
served
by
alternative
energy
providers.
Those
are
market
energy
providers,
just
like
we
see
down
in
texas
and
when
push
came
to
shove,
those
energy
providers
weren't
there
to
meet
those
customers
needs
and
the
only
reason
the
lights
stayed
on
with
those
large
customers
is
because
nv
energy
came
to
the
table
and
brought
them
energy,
even
though
they
weren't
our
energy
customers
anymore.
F
Now
we're
not
going
to
do
that
at
the
expense
of
our
other
customers.
Our
other
customers
are
making
the
investment
in
our
system,
and
so
that's
something
we're
going
to
watch
very
closely
going
forward.
F
But
that
is
the
risk
of
making
that
decision
to
utilize
an
alternative
energy
provider
who's
a
market
provider.
They
may
not
be
there
when
things
get
really
tight
or
the
price
that
you
have
to
pay
for,
that
energy
may
become
exorbitant
and
having
a
regulated
system
with
oversight
from
the
public
utilities.
Commission
oversight
from
the
legislature
provides
protections
to
all
residents,
whether
that's
a
big
commercial
entity,
or
you
know
a
low-income
person
or
a
person
on
a
fixed
income.
C
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
I
echo
the
positive
sentiments
of
the
people
that
spoke
before
me.
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
in
the
green
link
area
and
I
will
I'll
just
ask
them
all
at
once,
and
I
think
the
answer
should
be
pretty
short,
but
we'll
see.
First
question
is:
where
are
you
all
in
the
completion
of
the
green
link
project
and
when
is
it
expected
to
be
completed?
C
The
next
question
is
you
mentioned
on
slide
15.
There
would
be
rate
impacts
expected
in
2025
or
not
expected
until
2025.
Are
we
expecting
things
to
go
up
before
they
go
down
or
will
this?
Are
we
anticipating
a
decrease
at
that
time,
based
on
what
happens
with
green
link
and
then
on
slide
16?
It
mentions
broadband
access
and
I
just
want
a
little
more
clarity
on
what
what
has
meant-
and
I
may
have
missed
it,
so
I
just
want
to
get
some
more
understanding
there.
Thank
you.
F
Thank
you,
doug
cannon
with
nb
energy,
so
I'll.
Try,
if
I
miss
one
correct
me,
but
I'll
I'll
try
to
get
through
those.
Where
are
we
in
the
process?
So
we
have
filed
applications
with
the
public
utilities,
commission
of
nevada,
in
order
for
us
to
move
forward
with
a
large
transmission
investment
like
greenlink,
we
do
need
approval
from
the
public
utilities.
Commission.
F
Those
hearings
are
actually
happening
today,
while
while
we're
here
they're
over
at
the
public
utilities
commission
going
through
those
hearings
right
now,
and
we
do
anticipate
an
order
from
the
public
utilities
commission
by
let's
say
a
month
from
now
within
the
next
month,
and
so
our
hope
certainly
is
that
we
receive
an
order
that
authorizes
us
to
move
forward
with
all
or
a
portion
of
the
green
link
nevada
project
again,
because
of
all
the
benefits
that
we
see
it,
bringing
the
state
simultaneously.
F
We
are
working
with
the
bureau
of
land
management
to
obtain
the
federal
authorizations
that
we
need
in
order
to
locate
these
lines
on
federal
land,
much
of
the
land
where
these
lines
will
be
located
is
federally
administered
land
and
so
we're
also
working
through
the
blm
process,
but
the
benefits
the
economic
benefits,
the
jobs.
Those
can
start
immediately.
We
can
be
out
in
the
field
as
early
as
this
spring,
conducting
environmental
surveys
site
surveys,
right-of-way
surveys.
F
A
lot
of
this
work
can
start
immediately
through
the
permitting
process
and
we
can
start
to
put
people
to
work
now.
Our
hope
would
be
to
have
the
first
segment
greenlink
west
in
service
no
later
than
2026,
and
then
we
would
like
to
have
greenlink
north
the
second
segment
shortly
thereafter
a
year
or
two
thereafter,
also
in
service
to
bring
those
benefits
to
nevadans.
F
That's
a
very
quick
timeline
for
a
project
like
this.
Historically,
a
project
of
this
size
has
taken
10
to
12
years
to
develop
we're
trying
to
do
that
to
do
this
project
in
less
than
half
that
time,
and
we
we
can
do
that.
We
can
do
it
from
a
construction
perspective
if
we
can
quickly
work
through
the
regulatory
processes
and
get
those
approvals
in
place.
So
hopefully
that
kind
of
answers
your
where
in
the
process
we
are
and
the
date
I'm
talking
about
the
rate
impact.
F
It
is
a
big
investment.
It's
a
total
of
about
2.5
billion
dollars
of
investment
between
now
and
2025.
When
the
green
link
would
be
completed.
As
we
look
at
our
rates,
we
believe
our
rates
in
southern
nevada
will
be
stable
rates.
We
don't
really
see
us
increasing
rates
in
any
material
way
between
now
and
2025
or
2026
when
this
comes
into
service,
so
rate
stability
over
the
next
several
years.
F
When
we
get
to
2025
or
26.
With
this
project,
I
would
anticipate
some
rate
increase.
I
don't
think
that
rate
increase
has
to
be
significant,
because
again,
there
will
be
offsetting
energy
costs
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is
we'll
be
able
to
bring
in
more
low-cost
renewable
energy
and
we'll
be
able
to
access
western
regional
markets
to
get
low-cost
energy,
so
we
can
really
bring
if
try
to
operate
our
energy
system
in
the
most
efficient,
cost-efficient,
cost-effective
way.
F
Finally,
on
the
broadband
access
question,
what
happens?
Is
we
put
up
fiber
optic
lines
with
all
of
our
large
transmission
lines
operationally?
We
need
it
in
order
to
control
that
transmission
system
and
communicate
along
that
transmission
system
to
know
if
anything's
happening
or
to
be
able
to
operate
certain
switches
or
equipment
that
may
be
on
that
that
infrastructure?
F
We
can
bring
that
access
to
them
via
the
transmission
infrastructure,
and
so
the
amount
of
infrastructure
they
have
to
build
out
to
get
access
to
fiber
is
is
vastly
reduced
and
and
again
this
goes
through
some
very
rural
parts
of
the
state
that
have
never
previously
had
access
to
broadband
or
fiber
optic,
and
we
can
make
it
available
to
them
through
just
oversizing
the
line
a
little
bit.
We
don't
plan
to
get
into
the
telecommunications
business.
That's
not
our
goal.
We're
not
trying
to
expand.
C
I
I
no
thank
you.
B
I
just
have
one
question
and
then
a
comment
for
a
a
household
that
is
looking
to
make
their
home
more
energy
efficient.
When
you
do
the
home
assessments
about.
What's
the
average
wait
time
to
get
an
appointment
for
that.
F
Yeah
chair,
I
appreciate
the
question
doug
cannon
with
mv
energy
that
varies
based
on
current
demand.
The
wait
times
through
2020
have
been
longer.
We've
been
careful
about
sending
crews
our
crews
into
homes,
we've
been
cautious
and
doing
less
appointments
because
of
covid
and
a
desire
to
not
be
as
a
source
of
transmission
and
out
of
respect
for
our
customers.
So
I
will
say
right
now:
the
wait
time
can
be
a
little
bit
longer,
but
I
still
encourage
our
customers
to
call
get
on
our
website.
F
We
have
our
1
800
number
there
for
our
power,
look
for
powershift
on
our
website
and
call
that
power
shift
number
and
get
on
the
list.
It
can
be
several
weeks
to
have
to
wait,
but
it's
it's
worth
it.
I
actually
had
one
done
earlier
last
year
at
my
home.
I
I
shouldn't
admit
this.
I
hadn't
done
it
before,
but
I
did.
I
had
them
come
out
to
my
home
and
you
know
it
was
fantastic
and
they
found
a
number
of
ways.
F
At
my
home
I
put
in
the
smart
thermostats
I
put
in
that
they
put
in
new
furnace
filters.
They
identified
some
places
that
I
could
do
some
weather
stripping
and
some
things
that
I
could
do
to
make
my
home
more
energy
efficient,
it's
a
great
product
and
again
it's
available
to
every
single
customer,
and
I
really
encourage
all
of
our
customers
to
take
advantage
of
those
services.
B
B
I
don't
know
how
many
legislators
are
a
pain
in
the
butt
following
regulations,
but
I
know
that
I
was
because
I
was
very
insistent
upon
where
the
first
sighting
was
located
for
a
very
good
reason
I
felt
and
and
and
watching
the
regulations
for
members
that
weren't
a
part
of
this
committee
last
session.
B
Ab465
was
one
of
the
highlights
of
a
bills
that
came
out
of
our
committee.
It's
providing
expanded
solar
access
to
families
that
may
have
never
had
that
opportunity
and
what
it
also
does
is
the
cost
for
that
program
is
shared
over
ratepayers
from
all
classes
of
the
utility.
So
I
think
it's
a
really
good
thing
for
the
state
as
a
whole.
Thank
you
for
your
patience
with
me
to
get
that
first
sighting
done,
and
I
look
forward
to
as
we
build
out
other
sightings,
so.
F
Chair
not
no
no
patience
at
all.
I
love
the
passion
and
that's
what
we
need
in
the
state
and
we
love
your
leadership
and
that's
what
I
saw.
I
saw
passion
and
I
saw
leadership
and
a
commitment
to
the
communities
that
you
serve
and
the
communities
that
all
of
you
on
this
committee
serve,
and
we
appreciate
that.
F
We
appreciate
your
leadership
and
your
foresight
and
ensuring
that
every
nevadan
enjoys
the
benefits
of
renewable
energy
as
they
should
it's
a
resource
for
all,
and
we
look
forward
to
delivering
it
to
all
of
our
our
all
of
our
customers.
But
again
it's
it's.
We
really
owe
you
a
thanks
for
your
leadership
and
commitment
to
getting
that
done.
B
Well,
thank
you
and
see
no
other
questions.
I
thank
you
so
much
for
joining
us
today
and
we
will
bring
in
our
next
presenters
I'd
like
to
welcome
a
friend
to
this
committee,
mr
andrew
mckay,
who
is
the
executive
director
of
the
nevada
franchise,
auto
dealers
association,
and
he
will
provide
us
with
an
overview
of
the
work
that
they're
doing
so,
mr
mckay,
please
take
it
away.
G
Hi,
madam
chairman,
thank
you
very
much.
Let
me
pull
up
share
my
screen,
pull
up
the
presentation
and
I
will
get
started
alrighty
perfect,
alrighty
again.
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee.
For
the
record.
My
name
is
andrew
j
mckay,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
the
nevada,
franchise,
auto
dealers,
association
and
also
joining
me
via
this
zoom
meeting,
is
our
outside
legal
counsel.
Mr
john
sandy
iv,
before
I
begin,
I
want
to
provide
a
little
context
of
of
what
I
want
to
talk
to
you
all
about
today.
G
Certainly
I
could
sit
here
and
present
statistic
upon
statistic
and
and
a
litany
of
economic
information,
but
I
think
one
thing
that's
important
is
that
I
give
you
a
background
on
what
a
dealership
is
and
some
of
the
men
and
women
who
run
these
businesses,
similar
to
what
mr
cannon
alluded
to
in
his
presentation.
You're
gonna
hear
an
overarching
theme
over
the
next
and
I'll
get
through
this.
Madam
chair,
as
quick
as
possible
can
be
summarized
in
one
word
and
that's
community.
G
So,
who
are
we
so
we're
the
trade
association
representing
114,
small
businesses
that
are
located
in
all
corners
of
nevada,
from
las
vegas
to
elko,
from
hearing
to
trump
you'll
find
franchise,
new
vehicle
dealerships
in
your
communities?
We're
going
to
provide
services
to
our
friends,
families
and
neighbors,
and
I
wanted
just
to
be
clear
in
terms
of
who
specifically
we
are.
G
We
are
the
franchise
new
car
and
heavy
duty
truck
dealers.
We're
not
the
corner.
A
lot
by
here,
pay
here,
string
of
lights,
dealerships
that
you
that
you,
that
you
see
we're
a
a
very
niche
business
in
that
respect
and
represents
all
of
the
manufacturers
in
selling
their
products.
G
As
you
may
know,
a
vehicle
is
generally
the
second
most
expensive
purchase
that
a
person
makes
after
buying
one's
primary
residence
at
the
end
of
2020.
The
average
price
of
a
new
vehicle,
according
to
kelly
blue
book,
was
38
723,
just
under
39
grand
now
think
about
this.
85
of
all
new
vehicle
transactions
are
financed
and
of
those
oftentimes.
Many
of
them
require
payoff
of
another
loan.
G
These
are
financial
transactions
that
an
average
person
simply
does
not
have
the
background
and
is
unable
to
do
on
their
own.
But
dealers
are
there
to
pick
up
the
slack
and
take
care
of
this
end
of
the
business
for
consumers,
we're
the
key
cogs
of
the
wheel,
and
we
work
on
consumers
behalf
and
shop,
the
financing
terms
from
various
lenders
in
an
effort
to
get
the
best
possible
outcome
for
the
consumers
through
lower
interest
rates
and
or
a
combination
of
more
incentives
which
will
drive
down
the
cost
of
the
vehicle.
G
Now
again
think
about
what
I
just
said
moments
ago:
the
cost
of
a
vehicle
in
what
was
in
2020.
dealerships
not
only
compete
against
one
another
for
your
business.
We
have
lenders
compete
against
one
another
to
ensure
that
any
deal
that
consumers
have
is
the
best
that's
possibly
out
there.
In
the
end,
the
consumer
simply
wins.
G
So
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
is
show
you
all
a
a
brief
one
minute,
video
that
was
produced
in
cooperation
with
several
dealers.
State
associations,
as
well
as
in
in
credit,
goes.
The
majority
of
the
work
was
done
by
our
national
partners
at
the
national
auto
dealers
association,
but
I
think
this
video
will
succinctly
distill
in
one
minute
who
and
what
a
franchise
dealer
is
you're,
going
to
hear
from
a
great
lady
she's
just
awesome.
Her
name
is
jody
tooton
jody
owns
a
kenworth
and
heavy
duty.
G
Excuse
me:
kenworth
and
hino
heavy
duty
truck
dealer
dealership
in
louisiana
she's,
the
immediate
past
chairwoman
of
the
american
truck
dealers,
association,
she's,
an
active
member
of
her
community
and,
like
the
majority
of
nevada's
dealers
and
the
nation's
nearly
18,
000
heavy-duty
truck
dealers
and
light
truck
dealers
and
automotive
dealers
she's
part
of
a
legacy
business.
It's
a
multi-generational
operation
and
I
think
that
she
is
a
great
representative
of
of
who
a
dealer
is
so
mad.
I'm
sure
if
you
don't
mind
I'll
play
this
video
really
quick
and
then
we'll
we'll
move
on.
C
This
is
my
home
I
was
born
here
raised
here,
will
probably
die
here
and
you
know
that's
some
of
the
nature
of
family
business,
we're
a
relatively
large
employer
in
this
community.
We
offer
high-paying
jobs.
The
average
job
here
pays
well
in
excess
of
fifty
thousand
dollars
a
year.
C
G
G
Now,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee,
I
think,
even
though
that
video
was
obviously
from
a
heavy-duty
truck
dealership
in
the
state
of
louisiana
you,
you
can
apply
that
to
any
dealership
in
in
the
country
and
in
nevada.
G
I
think
the
only
difference
in
nevada-
and
I
will
I
will
get
to
that
briefly-
is
the
salary
levels
in
nevada
are
higher
than
that
number
that
was
referenced
by
ms
tutan,
as
well
as
the
sales
tax
that
revenue
that
is
generated
for
state
and
local
coffers,
but
but
that
does
give
you
a
really
good
picture
of
what
a
dealership
is.
G
As
I
mentioned
earlier,
local
dealerships
compete
fiercely
for
your
business,
while
today's
vehicles
are
made
better
than
ever
with
better
technology
and
better
components,
they
get
better
gas
mileage
and
are
longer
lasting
and,
in
fact,
jd
power
just
released
a
study
that
there
is
a
32-year
high
on
vehicle
reliability.
G
So
these
things
last
a
long
time.
The
manufacturers
do
a
great
job.
However,
like
any
product
things
can
go
wrong
and
when
this
occurs,
this
is
when
you
want
the
dealer
on
your
side.
One
of
the
key
responsibility
of
a
dealer
is
to
be
an
advocate
for
their
consumers
when
a
vehicle
is
subject
to
an
open,
recall
or
if
the
vehicle
is
in
need
of
a
repair.
G
When
these
repairs
occur,
dealers
work
directly
with
the
factor
to
get
compensated,
leaving
the
customer
out
of
this
process.
They
don't
need
that
headache.
The
only
thing
a
vehicle
owner
needs
to
worry
about
is
what
time
he
or
she
will
be
able
to
pick
up
their
repaired
freshly
washed
car
from
the
dealership.
G
G
G
So,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
community
is
an
overarching
theme
of
this
little
presentation
that
I'm
doing
well.
What
I'd
like
to
do
is
just
introduce
you
to
a
handful
of
dealers
and
dealerships
in
nevada
and
it'll
paint.
The
picture
of
these
are
your
community
members
bill.
Pierce
motors
bill
person
motors
is
a
dealership.
That's
been
in
business
for
just
about
50
years
up
here
in
northern
nevada,
you'll
see
four
of
the
stores
that
they
have.
In
addition,
they
also
have
a
honda
store
here
in
reno.
G
It's
presently
owned
by
miss
sandy
rafaeli,
who
is
the
second
generation
dealer
following
her
father
bill
pierce,
who
in
that
photo
is
sitting
with
sandy's
daughter,
lydia
who's.
Now
a
third
generation
dealer
sandy
is
an
amazing
woman.
In
fact,
she
was
nevada's
time
dealer
of
the
year
nominee
in
2019.
G
when
you're
a
time
dealer
of
the
year
nominee.
That
is
the
equivalent
of
winning
best
actor
in
pitchers
in
the
automotive
industry.
It
is
an
award
the
dealers
vote
on
it,
it's
peer-based,
but
an
overarching
theme
is
that
it
is
weighted
heavily
to
an
individual's
community
involvement,
as
well
as
their
ability
to
run
a
a
good
dealership
or
dealership
group.
So
sandy
does
an
amazing
job
that
same
year
she
had
a
great
year
in
2019.
G
G
It
is
owned
by
mr
jack
stanko
and
his
family
from
donating
a
brand
new
truck
every
year,
the
boys
and
girls
club
to
creating
an
endowment
at
the
university
of
nevada,
they're,
always
there
to
help
the
community
there's
a
couple
of
photos
of
interest
you'll
see
in
there
there's
actually
a
ribbon
cutting
from
when
mr
stinko
opened
his
dealership
and
the
folks
in
the
in
the
maroon
polyester
blazers
are
members
of
the
chamber
of
commerce,
but
they're
also
top
executives
from
general
motors
that
they
were
there
to
celebrate
that
occasion.
G
One
of
the
real
interesting
ones
you'll
see
in
there
is
a
picture
of
a
young
lady,
a
nurse
that's
actually
jack.
Stinko's
daughter.
Excuse
me
granddaughter
and
thought
I'd
put
it
up
there,
because
you
can
imagine
he's
a
pretty
proud
grandpa.
G
His
daughter
is
a
front
line
nurse
who
is
taking
care
of
individuals
that
are
afflicted
with
covet
finley
automotive
group.
I
I
don't
believe
the
findlay
automotive
group
needs
any
introduction
whatsoever.
Obviously,
everybody
sees
their
name
both
in
las
vegas
as
well
as
northern
nevada.
G
This
is
a
group
that's
been
operating
since
1961
when
pete
finley
opened
his
first
dealership
in
las
vegas
to
the
present
day.
I
think
the
name
finley
is
synonymous
with
community,
just
look
at
what
they've
done
over
the
years-
and
this
is
just
in
the
past
few
years
and
it's
just
scratching
the
surface
of
what
they
do.
G
But
I
think
what
demonstrates
where
these
businesses
have
come
is,
if
you
look
at
that
picture,
that
works
through
it's
of
a
gas
station
in
the
sprawling
metropolis
of
panaka
nevada,
that's
where
they
got
their
start
and
pete
finley
risked
everything
loaded,
his
family
up
into
the
car
drove
to
las
vegas,
to
open
up
a
car
dealership
and
the
rest
is
history.
G
However,
I
think
the
best
photo
or
series
of
photos
are
the
ones
that
you'll
see
of
some
folks
dressed
up
in
costume,
and
there
is
a
presentation
being
made
there.
Finley
subaru.
Excuse
me:
findlay
subaru
dealership
has
an
amazing
employee
by
the
name
of
luke's
and
lou's,
make
sure
that
the
dealership
is
clean.
It's
sanitized.
G
She
shows
up
every
day
and
works
her
tail
off,
even
when
her
car,
when
she'd
have
car
trouble,
she'd
have
to
hitch
a
ride,
get
a
cab
ride,
a
bus
well
in
recognizing
that
at
their
christmas
party,
this
pride
lose
handed
her
a
set
of
keys.
She
had
no
idea
what
it
was
well,
they
handed
her
a
tooth
out
a
brand
new
2020
subaru
crosstrek,
because
it
was
the
right
thing
to
do
and
they
wanted
to
help
somebody
that's
been
there
for
them.
G
The
last
group
that
I'd
like
to
introduce
you
to
briefly
gotten
motor
company.
As
you
can
see
there,
it's
a
family
tradition
since
1922.
G
they
are
going
on
they're
in
their
99th
year,
going
on
to
their
100th
year,
they've
been
operating
in
their
business
non-stop.
All
the
time
has
been
family
owned
and
operated,
while
their
initial
store
location
is
changed,
which
you'll
see
the
ac
grant
sales
and
service
dealership,
which
was
located
at
the
on
fifth
and
stuart
streets.
Now
I
think,
for
the
folks
that
have
been
in
las
vegas
a
long
long
time,
that's
las
vegas
boulevard.
G
G
Their
main
philosophy
is
simply
this
and
it's
give
back
to
the
community.
It's
resulted
in
the
creation
of
the
ackermann
center
for
autism,
which
has
provided
treatment
to
thousands
of
individuals
with
autism
and
other
spectrum
disorders,
really
quick,
a
I'm,
a
trivia
guy
and
a
factoid
person
you'll
see
on
that
picture
of
the
ac
grant
dealership
they
sell
fords,
lincoln's
and
then
fortson
fordson
was
actually
the
brand
name
of
the
tractors
built
by
henry
fordenson
and
at
the
time
back
in
the
night,
you
know
mid-20s
early
30s.
G
However,
I
just
thought
it
was
easy
just
to
hit
a
snapshot
and
show
you
really
what
is
the
tip
of
the
iceberg,
because
it
really
tells
the
story
of
all
dealers
in
this
state
from
sahara
motors
in
ely
to
sciota,
trudeau's
dealership
in
pahrump
nevada,
but
there's
there's
a
resounding
theme
and
I'm
going
to
throw
some
names
out
there
that
that
everybody,
I
believe,
is
heard
in
some
form
or
fashion
gallagher,
dolan,
hole,
tobin,
chapman,
mccanimus,
henning
company
and
I
can
go
on
and
on
and
on
when
you
hear
those
names,
I
think
there's
one
thing
that
that
always
rings
a
bell,
and
that
is
people
that
have
roots
in
this
community
they're
committed
to
this
community
and
they're,
going
to
stay
in
this
community
and
provide
valuable
services
to
our
friends
and
neighbors.
G
G
So
I
told
you
I
couldn't
not
avoid
hitting
some
statistics
there,
so
I'll
I'll
I'll
just
point
out
some
some
key
ones,
which
I
think
are
are
important
and
you
you
can
see
those
on
the
on
the
screen
there.
However,
these
do
illustrate
some
important
facts
that
the
franchise
auto
dealers
in
the
state
have
a
significant
economic
impact,
above
and
beyond
what
they
do.
From
a
community
and
philanthropic
standpoint,
we
pay
our
employees
very
well.
G
Dealers
make
up
over
ten
and
a
half
percent
of
the
state
retail
employment,
with
with
15
630
jobs
that
are
attributable
to
dealerships,
including
direct
and
indirect
sources.
The
new
vehicle
retailing
industry
resulted
in
1.203
billion
dollars
in
total
compensation
in
nevada
residents.
G
After
gaming
nevada's
dealers
generate
the
most
sales
tax
for
state
and
local
coffers.
I
I
don't
know
this
for
certain,
but
I
would
speculate
due
to
covid
and
the
length
of
the
shutdown
for
our
gaming
industry
partners
that
perhaps
were
actually
the
number
one
generator
of
sales
tax
in
2020..
G
I
can't
state
that,
for
fact,
but
I
would
not
be
surprised
if
that
ultimately
bowed
to
be
the
truth.
Additionally,
we're
one
of
the
largest
producers
of
commerce,
commerce,
tax
revenue
in
the
state
of
nevada.
G
That
being
said,
madam
chairman,
thank
you
for
your
time.
In
the
committee's
time,
I
will
be
available
if
there
are
any
questions
and
again
nice,
seeing
you
all
granted
it's
it's
remotely,
but
hopefully,
sooner
than
later,
we'll
be
able
to
see
each
other
in
person.
Thank
you.
B
A
Madam
chair,
thank
you
very
much
for
that
very
detailed
presentation.
In
my
experience,
I
would
reiterate
some
of
your
your
very
detailed
points
about
the
great
give
back
that
many
of
our
nevada
dealerships
have
in
the
long-standing
history
in
our
community.
A
I
would
like
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
wage
piece
that
you
just
brought
up
at
the
end
of
your
presentation.
I'm
just
curious
to
know:
do
you
have
information
or
details
relative
to
the
number
of
employees
that
are
now
paid
hourly
salary
and
benefits,
as
opposed
to
commission.
H
G
Madam
chair
three
to
the
assembly
woman
from
district
42.,
the
covet,
the
short
answer
is
this
covet
hasn't
really
changed
the
the
makeup
of
of
employee
compensation
within
dealerships.
G
G
As
well
as
some
employees
that
are
sales
persons
and
and
of
course
they
are
commission
based-
is
where
the
majority
of
their
of
their
revenue
is
is
derived
from
many
of
our
service.
Techs
are,
in
fact
paid
paid
hourly,
but
is
the
committee
is
probably
aware
of
when
you
look
in
terms
of
our
industry
in
in,
and
I
would
not
not
to
take
his
thunder
away
from
him
from
mr
enos.
G
But
technicians
are
paid
very,
very,
very
well
not
only
in
nevada
but
across
the
country
and
when
you
look
in
terms
of
that
salary
and
the
average
salary
of
nearly
69
thousand
dollars,
if
you
look
in
terms
of
the
service
drive,
the
vast
majority
of
those
employees
make
make
a
lot
more
than
that.
I
don't
know
if
that
directly
answered
your
question
assemblywoman,
but
if
not
fire
away,
and
I
can
clarify
it,
some
more.
A
Follow
up
madam
chair
go
ahead.
Thank
you.
That
was
a
great
response.
I
just
want
to
be
clear.
Your
your
inference
is
that
the
high
salary
range
is
really
relative
to
the
repair
personnel
right.
Somebody
who's
going
to
do
diagnostic
and
repair
work
on
my
vehicle,
as
opposed
to
somebody
on
the
front
end
of
a
dealership
who
would
actually
sell
me
the
vehicle
is
that
correct.
G
Oh
no
ma'am,
I
I
I
apologize.
I
was
just
what
I
was
doing
for
demonstrative
purposes
was,
was
trying
to
demonstrate
that
when
you
look
in
terms
of
service,
if
you
look
at
a
a
sales
person
and
specifically
a
seasoned
sales
person,
that
69
thousand
dollar
figure
is
a
lot
higher.
G
When
you
have
a
when
you
have
a
sales
person,
that's
been
doing
it
for
a
while
builds
a
client,
a
client
base,
they're
all
making
north
of
six
figures.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you,
mr
mckay,
for
of
the
presentation.
C
I
really
appreciate
all
the
all
the
all
the
economy
that
that
these
these
businesses
provide,
and
I
just
happen
to
notice
that
the
the
artwork
behind
you
and
with
the
logos
of
all
the
manufacturers
and
we've
heard
we've
heard
a
lot
about
the
transportation
industry's
contribution
to
greenhouse
gases
and
I'm
curious
if
you
could
expound
upon
what
the
manufacturers
are
doing
to
address
this.
Are
these?
Are
these
companies
increasing
their
investments
in.
G
Madam
chairman,
through
you
to
the
assemblyman
from
district,
you.
G
All
right,
madam
chair,
just
I'll,
probably
keep
going
through
you
because
it's
a
it's
a
it's,
a
tough
habit
to
break
so
apologies.
If
I
don't
follow
your
your
directive,
assemblyman
levitt,
the
short
answer
is,
is
yes,
they
are
investing
billions
and
billions
of
dollars
into
that.
G
Let
me
give
you
a
couple
of
of
sort
of
historical
facts
and
then
what
some
of
the
manufacturers
are
doing
as
we
move
to
an
electrified
a
more
electrified,
I
guess,
is
a
better
way
to
put
it
industry
when
you,
when
you
look
in
terms
of
when
the
at
with
the
advent
of
the
clean
air
act
and
vehicles
that
are
manufactured
today,
they're
99,
cleaner
than
the
one
that
was
built
prior
to
the
the
clean
air
act.
G
Now
when
I,
when
I
talked
about
the
price
of
the
vehicle,
much
of
the
reason
why
the
price
the
vehicle
is
because
these
these
vehicles
are
more
technologically
advanced
literally
by
the
minute.
Not
only
are
they
the
tailpipe
emissions.
G
Have
improved
dramatically
they're
consistently
improving
the
miles
per
gallon
now?
What
are
they
doing
for
from
a
from
an
an
eevee,
an
electric
electric
vehicle
standpoint?
And
pardon
me
sorry,
madam
chair,
I
should
have
stayed
in
my
name
for
the
record
andrew
mckay,
with
the
franchise
auto
dealers
association.
G
If
you
just
look
at
general
motors
general
motors
by
2025,
has
made
a
commitment
that
they're
going
to
hopefully
have
30
different
electric
vehicle
models
in
production,
they're
going
to
be
they're,
going
to
be
utilizing
what
is
called
their
ultimum
battery
technology,
which
results
in
a
couple
of
of
important
things,
and
this
is
why
you're
going
to
see
in
a
mass
rollout
of
electric
vehicles
in
the
near
future
and
they're
improving
the
battery
technology
where
number
one
range
is
enhanced,
but
the
charging
time
is
reduced
so
that
that's
that's
a
a
key
ingredient
in
this
whole
mix
of
being
able
to
get
consumers
to.
G
Ultimately,
you
know
have
widespread
adoption.
We
can
get
into
the
weeds
and
talk
about
you
know
establishing.
You
know
robust
charging
infrastructure,
you
know
heck.
We
all
know
you
can
pretty
much
spit
out
your
window
and
you're
gonna
find
a
gas
station
and
certainly
do
we
do.
We
need
that
many
charging
stations
that
remains
to
be
seen,
but
it
is
a
it's
a
complicated
matter
and
I
know
that's
a
long
answer
to
your
question,
but
I
thought
it'd
provide
an
idea
of
where
the
manufacturers
are
going.
H
Good
afternoon,
mr
mckay,
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
Thank
you,
chair
woman,
for
the
acknowledgement,
a
quick
question.
I
have
two
of
them
actually.
The
first
is
about
health
care
and
benefits
for
employees
of
the
dealerships.
G
Okay-
madam
chairman,
three
to
the
assemblywoman
from
district
six,
I
have
a
cheat
sheet,
I'd
love
to
say
I
have
these
memorized
for
the
record.
Andy
mckay
executive
director
of
the
franchise
auto
dealers,
association,
great
question:
every
dealership
in
nevada
not
only
provides
health
care
to
their
employees,
health,
health
insurance.
Excuse
me,
the
vast
majority
of
them
actually
either
cover
100
or
a
significant
percentage,
75
or
more
of
the
insurance
costs
of
of
their
employees.
G
They
offer
it
when
I
say
health
insurance
that
that's
naturally,
health
vision,
dental.
They
also
have
a
robust
benefits
program
generally
401k
profit.
Sharing.
Many
of
these
dealerships.
H
I'd
like
to
ask
you
a
question
that
was
also
asked
by
the
previous
presenter,
and
that
is
when
you're
talking
about
community
involvement
of
the
employees
at
the
dealerships,
are
those
paid
hours
through
the
dealership
or
are
those
hours
that
employees
are
taking
doing
their
own
time
or
taking
vacation
or
pto
to
participate
in
those
community
activities.
H
I
know
there's
a
lot,
but,
generally
speaking,
if
you
could
speak
to
that
question
and
thank
you
very
much.
G
Thank
you
for
thank
you
for
the
question,
madam
chair.
Three
to
the
assembly.
Woman,
hope,
your
hope,
your
tennis
game
isn't
isn't
suffering
now
that
you're
up
in
northern
nevada
and
it's
cold
by
the
way
I
thought
I'd
bring
that
up.
The
answer
to
your
question
is
simply
both
or
or
all
of
the
above
there
are.
G
They
do
a
litany
of
of
events
at
the
dealership
away
from
the
dealership
in
which
employees
are
on
the
clock,
like
all
of
us
that
are
involved,
we'll
spend
a
weekend
and
do
a
heart
walk
clean
up
a
park.
Many
you
know,
I'm
a
huge
outdoorsman
I'll
spend
a
weekend
and
drive
out
into
the
sticks
and
help
build
a
guzzler
for
you
know:
water
development
projects,
etc,
etc.
So
so
assemblywoman,
it's
it's
it's
all
of
the
above.
I
I
don't
wanna.
G
This
is
speculation.
On
my
part,
I
think
the
majority,
when
we
do
these
community
events,
we
being
the
dealers
oftentimes
when
it
when
there's
participation,
it's
it.
It
is
in
fact,
on
the
company
time
the
employees
are
paid
on
top
of
it.
D
D
The
fourth
of
july
is
is
paid
for
by
the
people,
and
the
first
ones
to
step
up
to
the
plate
is
the
dealerships
more
than
the
banks
and
and
more
than
some
minds
and
and
this
kind
of
stuff,
but
I
tell
you
what
they
they
step
up
and
and
they
get
involved
totally
with
the
community.
So
I've
got
a
lot
of
pride
and
a
lot
of
respect
for
those
and
those
individuals
come
out
and
help
us.
They
just
don't
write
a
check
and
they
go
away.
D
D
You're
one
of
them
and-
and
I
can't
thank
you
enough
and
just
like
enos,
you
know
paul-
has
been
there
every
time.
I
need
something,
but
I
can't
thank
you
guys
enough
and
what
you've
done
for
our
community
in
that's,
probably
all
rural
nevada,
and
I
knew
they
do
the
same
thing
for
the
large
city.
So
thank
you
again.
B
Thank
you
for
those
comments.
I
just
have
one
final
question
and
it's
going
back
to
something
assemblyman
levitt
have
brought
up.
Can
you
tell
our
community
our
committee
as
people
go
out
and
look
for
new
cars
and
they're
trying
to
be
to
think
about
the
economy
and
the
environment
as
they're
looking
for
new
cars
they're,
finding
it
difficult
to
find
evs
on
car
lots?
Can
you
let
us
know,
as
you
went
through
the
list
of
dealerships,
how
many
vehicles
ev
vehicles
are
on
the
car
lots
for
our
consumers
to
actually
purchase
how's?
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
the
for
the
question.
That's
that's
actually
an
excellent
question
and
it's
a
it.
It's
it's.
It's
a
somewhat,
quite
frankly,
complicated
question
to
answer.
G
Number
one:
let
me
let
me
put
into
context
in
terms
of
so
in
nevada
when
you
look
in
terms
of
where
nevada
is,
with
respect
to
states
that
have
adopted
california
emissions
regulations
and
their
and
and
their
zero
emission
mandate.
This
may
surprise
the
committee
on
this
first
place.
6.4
percent
of
all
the
sales
in
california
are
electric,
followed
by
washington,
4.9
percent,
then
oregon
at
38
and
then
nevada's.
G
Fourth,
there's
a
perception
out
there
that
that
evs
are
not
available,
and
it
it's
just
it's
it's
it's
not
true,
and
when
you
look
in
terms
of
those
sales,
I
think
this
demonstrates
the
nevada's
consumer
propensity
to
maybe
perhaps
think
think,
a
little
more
green.
G
We
don't
have
any
state
incentives
that
go
with
that,
so
it
really
illustrates
again
what
I
said:
maybe
nevada's
in
the
consumer's
propensity
to
go
green.
The
the
simple
fact,
madam
chair,
is
you
have
a
finite
amount
of
models
that
are
being
manufactured
that
are
purely
electric.
It's
going
to
obviously
broaden
significantly,
but,
like
I
say,
if
you
want
an
ev,
a
dealer
will
find
it
for
you.
G
If,
if,
if
the
dealership
does
not
have
it
on
its
lot,
they'll
find
it
for
you
we're
in
the
business
of
selling
cars,
which
I
think
is
the
easiest
way
to
to
summarize
this.
Now
I
could
get
into
the
weeds
and
talk
about.
Let's
say
this
was
a
year
ago.
That's
a
lot
easier
said
than
done,
and,
and
the
reason
is,
is
this
covid
threw
our
industry
into
a
complete
tailspin
on
a
couple
of
on
on
a
couple
of
fronts.
G
Obviously,
it
should
consume
consumer
confidence
to
the
core,
but
manufacturers
didn't
build
anything
for
a
period
of
six
to
eight
weeks,
maybe
even
longer,
as
the
manufacturers
began
wrapping
up
production,
you
saw
a
decline
in
the
production
of
other
components,
and
then
you
all
have
pricing
recently,
where
it's
really
creating
a
problem
is
a
shortage
of
microchips
and
micro
processors.
G
So
that
is
a
that
is
a
challenge
right
now,
but
once
we
are,
I
would
argue
at
full
capacity
from
a
manufacturer's
standpoint.
You're
going
to
see
you're
going
to
see
an
ev
inventory
increase
the
ability
to
order
an
ev
have
a
custom
built.
That's
what
dealers
do
you
want
a
car
and
you
want
everything
in
it.
We'll
get
the
oem
to
build
it
for
you.
That
being
said,
I
you
know.
I
I
I'm
excited.
G
Wait
till
you
see
some
of
the
things
that
are
coming
out
from
general
motors
ford,
audi.
Volkswagen
they've
got
some
pretty
neat
products,
that's
going
to
be
coming
out
in
the
next
few
years.
B
Well,
I
thank
you
for
that
answer
because
I
know
myself
when
we
went
looking
for
a
vehicle.
The
wait
time
was
going
to
be
a
long
time
before
getting
an
eevee
on
the
lot.
So
I,
along
with
a
number
of
consumers
in
our
our
state,
look
forward
to
seeing
the
higher
number
of
evs
on
car
lot,
so
we
have
more
options
to
choose
from.
B
B
Members
we'll
have
joining
us
next,
mr
paul
enos,
who
is
the
chief
executive
officer
for
the
nevada,
trucking
association.
Mr
eno's,
the
floor
is
yours,
but
I
will
warn
you.
We
are
short
on
time.
It
will
be
good
to
see
you,
but
we
are
short
on
time.
I
Right,
hey,
I'm
gonna,
be
quick
and
hopefully
pithy
so
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record,
I'm
paul
enos,
ceo
of
the
nevada,
trucking
association,
very
blessed
to
be
here
today,
representing
the
men
and
women
who
move
freight
here
in
the
silver
state.
I
I
know
that
all
of
you
elected
elected
officials,
you
got
one
of
these
talking
about
trucking's
impact
in
your
legislative
district,
so
I
thought,
let's
just
let's
just
have
an
amalgamation
of
what
does
trucking
look
like
if
we
were
to
combine
the
districts
of
everybody
here
on
the
growth
and
infrastructure
committee,
as
you
can
see,
we're
looking
at
just
south
of
11
000
drivers,
2214
trucking
companies,
and
one
thing
I
love
about
this
slide.
Is
it
points
out
how
diverse
our
industry
is?
I
The
trucking
industry
is
as
diverse
as
the
economy
that
it
serves
so
in
the
committee's
district.
What
are
they
hauling?
They're
hauling
810
of
them
are
hauling
construction
and
building
materials,
421
metal
and
machinery,
and
probably
representing
my
old
home,
where
mr
ellison
represents
and
mr
wheeler
213
moving
farming
supplies,
grain
and
feed.
I
I
So,
even
though
it
was
founded
in
seattle,
we
do
have
a
nevada
connection
to
to
big
brown
here
from
its
founder,
some
other
kind
of
neat
things.
You
know
we,
we
think
about
trucking
in
terms
of
ups
and
fedex,
the
packages
that
you
get
at
your
door
when
you
order
something
online,
of
course,
grocery
stores.
I
This,
I
think,
is
a
fun
one.
Anybody
know
what
this
is.
You
know
I
asked
somebody
today
and
they
said
that
looks
like
a
wind
turbine.
It's
actually
one
of
my
members
down
in
las
vegas
pawed
along
heavy
hall.
Who
is
hauling
the
golden
knights
helmet
to
t-mobile
arena?
So
once
again,
it
just
shows
the
diversity
of
our
industry.
This
is
another
fun
one.
I
actually
love
this.
I
I
consider
bees
nature's
truckers,
so
I
kind
of
think
it's
cool
when
trucks
are
hauling
bees
today
to
go
and
pollinate
trees
and
crops
and
flowers,
so
pretty
amazing
everything
that
we
haul
just
a
total
diversity,
total
total
diversity
of
of
different
economic
sectors
that
we
serve
coven
19,
I'm
not
going
to
mention
some
things
that
have
become
cliche,
so
you
know,
don't
don't
expect
me
to
talk
about
what
you've
heard
over
and
over
and
over
again,
but
coven
19
response
for
the
trucking
industry.
I
I
Just
taking
a
look
at
what
that
meant,
what
kind
of
freight
activity
we
we
were
dealing
with
this
right
here,
this
this
little
bump
and
it's
if
you
can
squint,
you
can
probably
see
that's
march
15
2020,
and
this
is
nationwide.
This
is
both
inbound
and
outbound
freight.
That
was
the
biggest
freight
demand.
We've
had
on
record,
usually
our
folks
start
planning
for
the
peak
holiday
season
in
august
september.
I
We
were
able
to
do
this
with
very
little
notice.
Now
I
was
hearing
from
my
folks
saying:
hey
we're
having
some
problems
with
water,
we're
having
some
problems
with.
You
know
some
of
the
goods
that
we
would
usually
have
we're,
not
seeing
them.
So
we
heard
about
this
a
few
weeks
before,
but
you
know
kind
of
that.
I
Mid-March
peak
is
where
we
really
saw
truck
activity
take
off,
and
even
though
we
had
a
little
bit
of
a
lull
you
can
see
where
we're
at
today
across
the
country,
we
still
have
freight
demand
at
levels
higher
than
than
we've.
Seen
than
we've
seen
before
the
pandemic
happened
when
you
look
at
the
state
of
nevada,
little
different
nevada,
little
different
nevada,
because
our
economy
is
different,
so
it
wasn't
quite
the
bump.
I
It
was
still
high,
especially
for
that
time
of
year,
but
when
you
think
about
the
amount
of
freight
that
we
bring
into
the
silver
state
to
serve
the,
what
is
it
40,
42
45
million
visitors
a
year
that
we
no
longer
have
to
serve,
you
do
have
a
little
bit
of
a
decrease.
We
don't
see
that
same
kind
of
spike
here
in
nevada
that
you'd
see
nationwide.
I
Now
we
are
still
seeing
this
demand.
Why
are
we
still
seeing
this
demand
when
folks
aren't
spending
money
on
travel
on
services,
they're
spending
money
on
goods,
and
those
are
things
that
my
folks
carry
so
we're
still
seeing
these
demands
still
at
levels
higher
than
they
were
at
the
peak
of
the
pandemic?
I
One
of
the
things
that
we
had
to
do
here
at
the
nevada,
trucking
association
is
make
sure
that
our
drivers,
our
mechanics,
the
dispatchers
everybody
that
had
to
go
to
work
that
they
could
be
safe,
so
we're
trying
to
find
masks
we're
trying
to
give
folks
those
tools
to
make
sure
that
they're
that
they're
drivers
that
their
employees
would
remain
safe
and
we
all
know
how
difficult
that
was
one
of
our
dr
one
of
our
one
of
our
mechanics
there
with
the
mask
working
on
a
truck
making
sure
that
they
kept
rolling.
I
I
really
appreciated
working
with
the
state
of
nevada,
the
governor's
office,
michael
brown
called
and
said:
hey.
We
know
we
can't
shut
down
truckers,
but
what
else
truck
stops?
Mechanics
was
a
big
one,
so
they
were
very.
They
were
very
good
in
working
with
us
to
make
sure
that
during
the
pandemic,
they
weren't
shutting
down
any
of
those
businesses
that
were
serving
our
folks,
so
that
was
appreciated.
I
I
They
don't
have
hand
sanitizer
or
wipes,
but
they
did
have
gloves
and
our
our
drivers
absolutely
took
advantage
of
that.
So
I
just
want
to
once
again
say
thank
you
to
them
as
they're
shutting
down.
They
said.
How
can
we
help
another
industry
that
really
helped
us,
and
not
only
do
they
make
a
great
bourbon,
I'm
a
big
fan
of
the
rye
whenever
you're
in
fallon,
you
know
take
a
pop.
If
you
have
an
opportunity
for
a
ranch,
they
actually
helped
us
out
by
giving
us
hand,
sanitizer,
gallons
and
gallons
of
gallons
of
hand.
I
Sanitizer
here
my
wife
and
daughter,
I
had
him
in
the
back
in
the
back
office,
filling
hundreds
of
bottles
up
that
we
would
that
we
would
give
to
to
our
drivers
once
again
thanking
frey
ranch.
You
know
a
little
keep
calm
and
truck
on.
You
know,
as
everybody
was
kind
of
nervous
and
worried
as
the
as
the
pandemic
was
was
moving
forward,
and
I
will
say
this
is
the
first
time
in
my
life,
I've
been
I've
been
in
politics
for
24
years
now
in
the
nevada
legislature,
lobbying.
I
This
is
the
first
time
in
my
life,
where
I
asked
somebody
for
something
and
wasn't
told.
No
and
that's
you
know
our
friends
of
the
trade
associations,
the
retailers,
the
chambers,
the
medical
association,
the
league
of
cities,
the
league
of
counties
and,
of
course,
all
of
our
partners
and
high
patrol
dmv
fmcsa.
I
They
were
great
partners
during
all
this,
so
I
just
want
to
you
know,
give
them
some
thanks
for
everything
they
did
to
to
help
us
out.
Okay,
back
here,
nevada
numbers.
What
does
the
trucking
industry
look
like
here
in
the
silver
state?
I
So
when
you
look
at
freight,
this
is
outbound
freight
across
the
country.
You
see
southern
california,
atlanta
harrisburg
pennsylvania,
which
is
a
big
distribution
center
for
the
for
the
east.
You
know
huge
huge
numbers
over
here,
but
when
you
look
at
nevada
las
vegas,
this
is
year
over
year
our
freight
demand
in
las
vegas
23.5
higher
than
it
was
year
over
year.
When
you
look
at.
I
Reno
here
we
go:
there's
reena
reno's
down
a
little
bit
down
5.1
percent.
When
we
take
a
look
at
the
inbound
freight,
that's
coming
inbound.
You
see
green
pretty
much
across
the
board.
Once
again.
This
is
year
over
year,
reno
actually
up
20.1
year-over-year
in
terms
of
inbound
freight
volume,
vegas
up
33.8.
I
So
once
again,
we're
still
seeing
this
increased
demand
from
e-commerce
from
folks
spending
more
money
on
goods
as
opposed
to
travel,
and
that
all
has
an
impact
on
what
my
folks
do
in
the
silver
state,
and
these
are
new
numbers
that
I
just
got
yesterday.
But
it's
always
a
look
back
so
we're
looking
back
four
years
to
2017..
I
95.3
of
all
the
manufactured
freight
in
the
silver
state
is
delivered
by
truck
so
pretty
substantial
number
5150
trucking
companies,
most
of
them
are
small.
What's
a
small
trucking
company
four
trucks,
that's
the
average
size
of
a
trucking
company.
They
consider
anything
under
20,
small
in
nevada.
Most
of
our
carriers
are
those
small
folks
about
60
percent
of
our
operators.
Here
are
one
truck
owner
operators.
I
Eighty
percent
of
the
communities
in
nevada
depend
exclusively
on
trucks.
We
don't
have
seaports,
we
don't
have
a
mississippi
river.
We
don't
have
an
extensive
rail
system
for
delivery,
so
trucks
provide
that
that
resource
for
all
our
folks
and
then
really
the
most
important
thing.
The
thing
that
makes
the
truck
go
or
the
person
that
makes
a
truck
go.
That's
the
driver
and
this
isn't
just
driver
jobs.
This
is
the
trucking
industry
as
a
whole.
I
I
We
are
an
industry
that
is
very
hard
to
get
into
as
a
kid.
So,
if
you're
just
out
of
high
school-
and
you
want
to
have
a
career
in
trucking,
you
have
to
wait
until
you're
21.,
so
typically
you're
going
to
find
something
else
to
do
in
those
three
years
and
maybe
have
another
career.
So
we
get
a
lot
of
folks
who
are
either
coming
out
of
the
military
or
looking
at
trucking
as
a
second
career
after
they've
done.
Some
other
things
we
are
predominantly
male.
Now
these
numbers
have
gone
up.
I
I
We
we
recruit
everybody,
we
look
yeah
if
you
have
an
attitude
of
safety
and
you're
a
professional,
and
you
want
to
drive
a
truck.
We
want
to
talk
to
you
so
today,
though,
it
still
is
primarily
a
male
dominated
industry.
One
of
the
places
where
we
have
made
some
forays
is
into
minority
communities.
This
gentleman
is
a
driver
for
one
of
my
members.
I
I
I
It's
really
interesting
to
me
talking
to
my
members
about
the
immigrant
experience
and
the
folks
that
are
coming
over
to
america,
from
india,
from
eastern
europe
from
south
america,
and
while
some
of
them
want
to
be
company
drivers,
most
of
them
want
to
be
independent
contractors.
So
we
have
a
tremendous
amount
of
owner
operators.
Why?
Why
do
they
want
to
come
over
here
and
be
an
owner
operator
because
they
set
their
own
schedule?
I
So
it
really
is
a
great
place
for
someone
who
still
has
that
connection
once
they've
come
here
still
wants
to
have
that
connection
to
their
home
country,
to
be
able
to
come
over
here,
become
an
owner
operator
and
then
decide
when
they're
going
to
work.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
our
immigrants
who
are
coming
here
becoming
independent
contractors.
I
Safety
safety
is
very
important
to
all
of
us.
It
is
the
most
important
thing
that
we
do,
because
if
we
don't
operate
safe,
that
freight,
that
everybody's,
depending
on,
isn't
going
to
get
there,
the
trucking
industry
nationwide
spends
10
billion
dollars
a
year
on
safety.
Now,
what
is
that?
What
does
that
mean?
It's
driver
training,
it's
safe
bonus
incentives,
but
it's
also
technology
and
in
the
past
we've
talked
about
autonomous
trucks.
I
I
So
we
have
things
like
anti-rollover
and
collision
avoidance
systems
that
are
becoming
not
standard
yet,
but
they
are
becoming
more
and
more
adopted
in
the
industry,
cameras
both
inward
facing
watching
the
driver
and
outward
facing
very
important,
especially
when
there's
an
accident
to
be
able
to
prove
what
happened
and,
of
course,
electronic
logging
devices.
I
Even
though
hours
of
service
rules
have
been
waived
for
the
response
to
the
pandemic-
and
that's
you
know
if
you're
carrying
livestock,
if
you're
carrying
food,
if
you're
carrying
paper
products,
anything
that
our
first
responders
need,
our
truck
drivers
still
need
to
keep
track
of
their
hours.
I
I
I
The
trucking
industry
is
very
transparent.
I
pulled
this
up.
This
is
one
of
my
members.
Anybody,
any
member
of
the
public
can
go
and
look
at
the
record
of
any
trucking
company.
This
is
going
to
tell
you.
Were
they
put
out
of
service?
You
know:
do
they
have
an
issue
with
breaks?
Do
they
have
an
issue
with
the
driver
not
having
proper
credentials?
I
They
score
everybody,
so
not
only
do
law
enforcement
know
what
that
trucking
company
safety
record
looks
like
customers
know,
insurance
companies
know
the
public
knows,
and
they
are
scored.
Every
trucking
company
is
scored
in
seven
different
categories:
unsafe
driving
their
crash
indicator.
Have
they
been
in
a
lot
of
crashes,
are
met
with
hours
of
service?
Are
they
maintaining
their
vehicles,
controlled
substance
and
alcohol
very
important?
Are
they
compliant
with
hazardous
materials
and
are
their
drivers
fit
to
drive?
Do
they
have
a
proper
medical
card?
Do
they
have
proper
licenses
and
once
again,
they're
scored?
I
I
Citation
you're
going
to
get
dinged,
but
if
you
have
a
clean
inspection
that
shows
up
as
well,
so
you
look
connecticut
new
hampshire,
arizona,
tough
states
to
do
business
in
nevada
for
a
trucking
company,
it's
a
coin
flip,
whether
you're
going
to
get
a
clean
inspection
or
a
violation,
so
that
does
show
a
high
patrol
law
enforcement
that
is
really
working
with
the
industry.
Here
now
we
did
see
we
did
see
this
data
kind
of
change
and
once
again,
this
had
everything
to
do
with
the
pandemic.
I
I
We're
gonna
go
after
the
worst
of
the
worst,
so
we've
seen
that
number
come
back
down,
but
that
spike,
where
they
were
giving
more
violations
than
clean
inspections,
has
everything
to
do
with
the
pandemic
and
everything
to
do
with
covet
controlled
substances,
something
that
we
have
been
fighting
for
for
the
last
15
years
to
make
sure
that
we
had
a
drug
and
alcohol
clearinghouse.
If
somebody
pops
positive
on
a
drug
test
before
they
used
to
be
able
to
just
go
down
the
street
and
get
a
job
with
another
trucking
company.
I
Finally,
at
the
beginning
of
last
year,
we
have
a
drug
and
alcohol
clearing
house
where
every
trucking
company
every
owner
operator
every
driver,
has
to
enter
their
information
and
give
consent
to
actually
look
at
that
information.
So
what
does
that
mean?
Well
what
it
has
meant
to
our
industry
since
it's
been
in
place
over
a
year,
fifty
six
thousand
150
drivers
had
violations.
I
I
I
Knox
64.25
particulate
matter,
35.07,
volatile
organic
compounds,
55.12.
I
2010
big
deal
for
the
trucking
industry.
I
know
assemblyman
watts.
He
knows
this
bill
because
we
talked
about
it
last
week
in
his
committee,
the
2010
engines
require
you:
have
diesel
exhaust
fluid
that
diesel
exhaust
fluid?
Will
spray
spray
down
into
the
exhaust
pipe
of
that
truck,
and
it
will
then
go
through
a
selective
catalytic
reduction
process,
where
the
only
thing
that
is
coming
out
of
that
stack
is
nitrogen
and
water,
so
2010
engines.
This
is
a
prior
to
2010
engine
you're
likely
to
see
that
kind
of
smoke.
I
In
fact,
it
would
take
60
of
today's
2010
trucks
to
equal
the
emissions
of
one
truck
sold
in
1988,
so
we
have
adopted
a
tremendous
amount
of
technology
alternative
fuels,
something
that
we
do
look
at
as
well.
Ups,
you
know
once
again,
ups
largest
trucking
company
in
the
world.
What's
great
about
these
guys
is
they
have
the
wherewithal
to
try
all
this
technology
and
they
can
also
make
mistakes.
They
can
be
wrong
kind
of
hard
to
be
wrong
when
you
only
have
four
trucks
that
you're
running.
I
But
when
you
have
a
fleet
of
tens
of
thousands
of
vehicles,
you
can
go
and
experiment
and
see
what
works
well.
One
of
the
neat
things
once
again
a
nevada
story.
This
is
president
obama
back
in
2012
at
ups
down
in
las
vegas,
where
they
unveiled
their
natural
gas
trucks.
Cng
lng
they're
also
using
renewable
natural
gas.
So
they
are
doing
everything
they
can
to
find
the
most
sustainable
options
for
their
applications.
I
And
what
happens
then,
when
you
see
a
company
like
ups,
be
successful
and
something
that
they
can
do,
that
does
send
a
message
to
the
other,
smaller
folks
saying:
hey,
maybe
that's
something
we
can
do
as
well.
They've
ordered
123
of
the
new
electric
trucks
from
tesla.
I
think
they've
been
waiting.
Four
years
still
haven't
got
them
yet
so
we'll
kind
of
see
what
happens
there.
I
had
a
electric
or
an
electric
truck
quoted
by
one
of
my
members.
I
B
Mr
enos,
I
am
going
to
ask
you
to
wrap
it
up
for
us.
I
I
apologize.
We
are
running
really
late
on
time
and
a
number
of
our
members
have
a
four
o'clock
meeting
they
have
to
get
to.
But
I
do
have
one
question
for
you:
during
the
last
legislative
session
there
was
legislation
passed
that
would
allow
local
governments
to
build
out
truck
stops.
Could
you
just
give
us
a
quick
update
of
where
we're
at
on
those
truck
stops.
I
Sure
it
was
to
build
truck
parking,
so
that
was
that
was
in
the
rural
counties,
mostly
on
the
ied
corridor
that
were
selling
more
than
10
million
dollars
a
year
in
diesel,
and
last
I
checked.
I
I
believe
that
they
had
that
they
had
raised.
I
want
to
say
about
300
000
to
to
build
in
those
areas
that,
coupled
with
what
the
state
of
nevada
has
done
through
their
freight
program
last
year,
they
spent
7.1
million
dollars
in
truck
parking
across
the
state,
and
I
know
especially
for
folks
down
in
clark
county
who
may
be
getting
the
calls
about
trucks
parking
in
their
neighborhood
that
that
that
may
not
be
enough
real
quick.
Madam
chair,
I
just
want
to
talk
about
two
more
things,
just
very,
very,
very
good.
It.
I
I
What
I
love
about
it
is,
it
is
a
market-based
program
that
has
reduced
emissions,
134
million
tons
of
emissions.
Since
it
was
conceived,
we
have
companies
like
budweiser,
mcdonald's,
colgate
palmolive,
which
makes
colgate
and
palm
olive
who
are
requiring
the
companies
that
they
ship
with
that
they
have
that
that
they
are
a
smart
way
certified
company
and
just
really
quick.
I
would
be
remiss
if
I
did
not
talk
about
about
this
issue.
You
know
highway
hazards,
we
deal
with
things
like
staged
accidents.
I
I
won't
go
a
whole
lot
into
that
today,
of
course,
cargo
theft,
but
one
thing
that
I
am
very
very
proud
of
that
we
do
with
the
nevada
trucking
association
we're
one
of
the
first
in
the
country.
We
are
a
partner
with
truckers
against
human
trafficking.
It
is
something
that
happens
all
over
the
place.
I
Our
truckers
are
the
eyes
and
the
ears
of
the
road
and
when
they
see
something
we
have
given
them
the
training
to
recognize
and
report
this
and
to
date,
we
have
trained
over
a
million
truck
drivers
who
have
made
over
2
600
calls
to
report
human
trafficking
that
they
see
occurring.
Madam
chair,
thank
you
very
much.
I
really
appreciate
your
time
and
indulgence
today
and
I
guess
this
means
I'm
off
the
hook
for
questions
so
lucky
me.
B
You're
off
the
hook,
but
members,
I
encourage
you
to
go
through
the
full
88
page
presentation
that
mr
enos
supplied
to
the
committee
and
if
you
have
any
questions
for
him,
please
reach
out
to
him
in
the
future.
Thank
you
for
joining
us
today
and
for
our
next
presenters.
I
am
so
sorry
it
would
be
southwest
gas.
You
don't
have
a
lot
of
time
to
present,
but
if
you
want
to
get
started,
please
do
and
if
we
I
have
to
bring
you
back
on
another
day.
J
All
right,
no
problem.
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record.
My
name
is
john
hester,
I'm
president
and
ceo
of
southwest
gas
corporation.
We
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
present
the
the
speed
version
of
this
presentation.
J
I'm
here
today
with
scott
ledam,
who
some
of
you
may
know
he
is
our
director
of
public
affairs.
So
with
that
we'll
start
the
presentation.
The
topic
of
our
presentation
here
today
is
building
a
sustainable
future
with
natural
gas.
First
slide
that
we
show
is
just
a
reminder
of
how
long
we've
been
in
business.
We've
been
in
business
for
90
years,
providing
service
to
our
customers
across
three
states.
J
We've
got
over
2
million
customers
total,
but,
as
we
say
here,
home
means
nevada
for
myself
and
scott
and
the
the
headquarters
of
our
corporation
on
the
next
slide.
You
get
a
little
bit
more
detail
about
some
of
the
deep
roots
we
have
here
in
nevada.
J
We've
got
over
750
000
customers
here
in
nevada,
that
represents
over
two
million
citizens
in
the
state,
because
you
have
over
two
people
for
every
household
we
have
over
a
thousand
employees
in
the
state
and
a
lot
of
the
work
that
we
do
in
terms
of
pipe
replacement
activity
and
other
types
of
work
on
construction,
etc.
We
use
contract
labor
to
augment
our
employee
workforce,
so
we
have
another
2,
000
jobs
that
are
associated
with
the
business
that
we
do
here
in
nevada.
J
This
past
year
we
paid
46
million
dollars
in
taxes.
We
support
over
a
thousand
different
types
of
businesses
and
we
also
consider
ourselves
to
be
a
good
community
partner
in
terms
of
contributions
to
non-profits.
It's
a
very
important
part
of
the
culture
that
we
have
here
at
southwest
gas.
Next
slide.
We
talk
a
little
bit
about
our
response
to
coven
19..
As
you
can
see,
this
was
a
multi-pronged
approach.
J
When
we
were
back
about
a
year
ago
today
we
were
wondering
what
the
impacts
of
covet
would
be.
We
knew
it
was
very
important
to
continue
to
provide
natural
gas
service
to
our
customers,
because
those
customers
were
finding
themselves
spending
more
and
more
time
at
home.
So
it
was
important
that
they
had
reliable,
affordable
gas
services
to
help
support
the
increased
time
that
they
were
spending
at
home
with
family.
We
knew
that
a
lot
of
folks
were
having
some
hard
times.
J
J
So,
as
you
can
see
from
this
chart,
we
had
a
number
of
different
programs,
including
offering
flexible
payment
plans,
stopping
disconnects
stopping
late
fees,
providing
financial
assistance,
and
we
also
work
with
local
county
and
state
government
bodies
to
try
to
get
additional
assistance
for
those
customers
to
help
pay
their
utility
bills.
Next
slide
talks
about
how
we
are
committed
to
helping
nevada
achieve
its
emission
reduction
goals
through
balanced
energy
solutions.
J
We
support
the
state's
goal
of
achieving
a
net
zero
posture
by
2050..
This
is
a
very
important
priority
southwest
gas
and,
frankly,
across
the
natural
gas
industry,
there
are
a
lot
of
exciting
new
technologies
to
help
us
get
there
as
a
natural
gas
distribution
company,
while
continuing
to
allow
our
customers
the
convenience
that
they
currently
enjoy.
Having
natural
gas
service
next
slide
talks
about
our
value
proposition.
J
First
of
all,
one
of
the
key
benefits
to
natural
gas
service
is
that
it
is
affordable.
We
consider
this
to
be
a
competitive
advantage
at
our
company.
We
know
that
you
don't
have
to
have
natural
gas
service,
that
there
are
all
electric
homes
and
and
many
applications
for
natural
gas
have
electric
alternatives.
J
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
affordable,
that
we're
reliable
and
that
we're
clean
and
the
increased
use
of
natural
gas
across
the
country
has
been
the
number
one
reason
why
greenhouse
gases
are
down
significantly
over
the
past
two
decades,
primarily,
and
I've
got
a
slide
later
in
the
presentation.
Hopefully
I'll
get
to.
It
is
a
result
of
electric
power
generation.
There
was
a
lot
more
electric
power
generation
from
coal
10
20
years
ago.
J
Next
slide,
we
talk
about
the
important
role
that
we
play
in
economic
development
for
the
state
of
nevada.
We
want
to
help
make
our
communities
competitive,
because
availability
of
natural
gas
service
is
a
consideration
that
businesses
that
are
looking
to
expand
or
to
relocate.
Consider
when
they're,
considering
various
different
locations.
J
We
know
that
at
nine
o'clock
at
night
on
july
or
august
evening,
our
air
conditioner
compressors
are
going
to
be
screaming
and
there's
going
to
be
absolutely
no
production
of
photovoltaic
energy.
At
that
point,
natural
gas
is
there
to
help
pick
up
that
generation
need
when
those
renewables
aren't
available.
So
it's
helped
to
expand
the
footprint
of
renewables
by
making
sure
that
there's
a
backstop
for
that
reliability.
J
Next
slide
is
a
little
bit
more
information
on
mesquite
and
spring
creek.
As
you
can
see
from
this
slide,
we
have
committed
just
under
100
million
dollars
to
support
expansion
to
those
two
communities.
The
next
slide
shows
a
little
bit
of
information
on
the
expansions
that
we
have
there.
I've
had
a
chance
to
meet
with
mayor
alan
litman,
a
number
of
different
times
he's
a
very
enthusiastic
proponent
of
natural
gas.
J
I
remember
when
I
went
down
there
for
the
ribbon
cutting
ceremony
in
mesquite,
and
he
told
me
that
in
in
seeking
to
get
new
businesses
to
mesquite
oftentimes,
you
have
a
form
and
you
have
to
fill
out
the
form
you
have
to
talk
about
what
kind
of
amenities,
what
kind
of
benefits
you
have
in
your
community
and
one
of
the
things
that
he
always
had
a
little
bit
of
difficulty
with
was.
He
was
not
able
to
say
that
they
offered
natural
gas
service
once
we
were
able
to
bring
natural
gas
service
to
mesquite.
J
He
said
that
that
enabled
them
to
be
much
more
competitive
in
terms
of
expanding
the
business
footprint
in
that
city,
because
businesses
that
needed
natural
gas
service
were
then
able
to
consider
mesquite
as
a
possible
location.
Our
more
recent
expansion
is
up
to
spring
creek
nevada,
it's
obviously
very
cold
up
there.
J
Next
slide
talks
about
renewable
natural
gas.
Renewable
natural
gas
is
a
methane
that
is
sourced
from
operations
such
as
dairy
farms,
landfills,
sewage
treatment
plants,
so
these
are
sources
of
methane
that
either
are
going
to
be
vented
into
the
atmosphere,
as
is
the
case
in
a
landfill
or
a
dairy
farm,
or
perhaps
they're
going
to
be
combusted
at
the
source
in
the
case
of
the
sewage
treatment
plant,
so
you're
having
the
production
of
methane,
but
it's
either
being
vented
into
the
atmosphere
or
it's
being
burned
for
no
productive
use.
J
If
we
can
harness
those
sources
of
methane
scrub
them
bring
them
up
to
pipeline
quality
and
put
them
into
our
system,
you
essentially
have
a
carbon
neutral
source
of
fuel
for
your
customers.
This
legislation
that
helps
facilitate
expansion
of
these
opportunities
was
sb
154
and
that
was
passed
in
the
last
legislative
session.
Our
next
slide
talks
about
the
use
of
natural
gas
as
a
transportation
fuel
and
really
appreciated
some
of
the
references
that
paul
enos
made
from
the
nevada
trucking
association.
J
Some
of
the
projects
that
ups
and
other
fleet
operators
have
made
a
commitment
to
natural
gas
because
it
produces
significantly
less
carbon
dioxide
and
greenhouse
emissions
than
conventional
diesel
fuel.
On
average,
a
cng
vehicle
will
produce
27
percent
less
co2
than
a
diesel-fueled
vehicle
and
as
peter
also
referenced.
The
ability
to
convert
a
conventional
truck
to
a
natural
gas
fueled
vehicle
is
significantly
less
than
the
350
thousand
dollars
he
cited
for
the
electric
trucks.
We've
had
a
lot
of
partners
locally
republic
services.
J
We
recently
partnered
with
the
rtc,
who
was
already
using
conventional
natural
gas
to
do
a
supply
with
them
that
uses
renewable
natural
gas.
I
know
one
of
the
concerns
of
the
rtc
historically
was
that
they
wanted
to
continue
to
reduce
their
carbon
footprint,
and
one
of
the
options
was
to
use
electric
buses,
but
the
electric
buses,
just
like
peter
mentioned
in
his
presentation,
were
significantly
more
expensive.
J
Using
renewable
natural
gas
and
a
natural
gas
plus
allows
you
to
achieve
that.
Zero
carbon
footprint
at
a
significantly
lower
cost
next
slide
touches
on
another,
exciting
technology
that
we
are
going
to
be
pursuing
to
continue
to
green
our
portfolio,
and
that
is
the
use
of
hydrogen
we're
in
discussions
with
a
number
of
nevada
businesses,
including
las
vegas,
paving
starbucks
wind
resorts
to
see
if
we
can
have
an
opportunity
to
blend
hydrogen
into
their
conventional
natural
gas
supplies
to
help
them
achieve
their
goals.
J
To
reduce
greenhouse
gas
emissions,
hydrogen
can
be
produced
a
number
of
different
ways.
One
of
the
most
appealing
ways
is
to
use
renewable
electricity
that
may
be
generated
by
wind
or
solar
to
perform
electrolysis
on
water
and
then
to
use
the
hydrogen
as
an
energy
storage
vehicle
that
can
later
be
deployed
to
transportation
to
homes.
It
can
even
be
used
to
generate
electricity
at
night,
so
something
that
we're
focused
on
as
a
company
next
slide
talks
about
that
issue
of
affordability-
that's
very
important
to
us
here
at
southwest
gas.
J
We
know
it's
very
important
to
our
customers.
Here
are
some
metrics
that
just
show
the
magnitude
of
our
bill
on
average,
for
a
residential
customer
being
about
forty
dollars
and
then
comparing
that
for
national
averages.
So
these
aren't
necessarily
the
water
district
or
nv
energy,
but
they're
representative
of
the
relatively
low
bill
that
we
can
provide
service
for
to
customers
in
comparison
to
other
utility
service
providers.
J
Next
slide
gives
some
information
on
some
internal
polling
that
we
have
done
polling
with
our
customers
to
see
what
is
their
desire
to
have
continued
natural
gas
service,
and
you
can
see
from
these
results,
and
these
are
nevada,
customers,
91
percent
of
customers
surveyed
say
they
prefer
natural
gas
as
an
energy
choice.
84
percent
say
they
oppose
having
natural
gas
removed
from
their
homes
and
another
competitive
advantage
for
us
that
we're
very
much
focused
on
is
customer
satisfaction
and
we
routinely
get
through
our
surveys.
J
96
percent
customer
satisfaction
from
our
customers
when
they
have
an
interaction
with
our
company,
either
a
service
tech
coming
to
their
home
or
business,
or
maybe
they
make
a
call
into
the
call
center
because
they
need
some
additional
information
or
need
to
establish
service
for
a
new
residence.
Next
slide
talks
a
little
bit
about
electrification.
That's
something!
That's
getting
a
lot
more
dialogue
in
the
national
scene
these
days,
and
one
of
the
things
to
remember
about
electrification-
is
that
it
really
can
have
some
significant
cost
implications
for
customers.
J
So
you
can
see
from
the
dollars
here
that
the
cost
of
converting
facilities
to
electricity
to
handle
higher
loads
to
convert
to
new
appliances
is
really
is
really
very
expensive,
and
if
we
have
a
plan
like
we
do
it
here
at
southwest
gas
to
use
these
new
technologies
like
renewable
natural
gas,
hydrogen
energy
efficiency
offsets,
you
can
get
to
that
net.
Zero
goal
at
a
significantly
lower
cost,
while
at
the
same
time
allowing
customers
to
have
that
service.
J
That
they've
enjoyed
historically
next
chart
shows
the
reduction
in
greenhouse
gas
emissions
that
have
occurred
over
the
past
20
years
or
so,
and
you
can
see
from
this
chart
that,
while
natural
gas
usage
has
increased
mostly
in
the
power
generation
sector,
the
total
amount
of
greenhouse
gas
emissions
in
the
country
have
declined.
So
again,
even
conventional
natural
gas
has
played
a
very
important
role
in
helping
the
country
achieve
its
climate
change
goals.
J
Next
slide
talks
about
a
little
bit
of
the
perspective
on
which
sources
of
activities
for
a
common
household
here
in
las
vegas
contribute
to
greenhouse
gas
emissions,
and
this
comes
from
a
calculator
that
is
on
the
university
of
california.
Berkeley
website
anyone
can
go
on
there.
You
can
go
on
there
and
plug
in
the
size
of
your
home.
J
How
many
people
are
living
in
your
household
and
you
can
see
when
you
compare
the
amount
of
greenhouse
gas
emissions
from
natural
gas
service
to
electricity,
food
goods,
transportation
sector,
certainly
one
of
the
biggest
contributors
natural
gas
distribution
service.
The
type
of
service
that's
offered
by
southwest
gas
is
pretty
low.
Next
slide
talks
about
the
direct
use
of
natural
gas.
I
mentioned
that
natural
gas
is
used
in
the
power
generation
sector
here
in
nevada,
upwards
of
70
percent
of
the
electricity
that's
generated
in
this
state
is
generated
using
natural
gas.
J
We
think
at
our
company
that
it's
a
much
better
idea
to
use
that
natural
gas
in
the
home
in
natural
gas
appliances,
rather
than
to
use
that
natural
gas
to
generate
electricity
transmitted
over
high
voltage
transmission
lines,
get
it
to
the
home
and
you
can
see
through
the
the
supply
chain
on
the
direct
use.
You
retain
a
much
higher
amount
of
the
energy
from
the
source
fuel.
J
The
other
activity
that
we
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
is
in
the
next
slide,
and
it
shows
you
the
amount
of
activity
that
we're
doing
on
pipe
replacement
activity
to
make
sure
we
are
operating
the
safest,
most
efficient
distribution
system
possible,
and
one
of
the
benefits
of
upgrading
your
system
in
in
terms
of
safety
is
that
it
helps
to
reduce
the
amount
of
leaks
that
may
exist
in
the
system.
Southwest
gas
has
a
very
new
system.
J
Next
slide
talks
about
an
initiative
that
that
we
have
that.
Maybe
a
lot
of
you
are
familiar
with
the
safety,
jobs
and
greenhouse
gas
reduction
bill.
I
believe
this
is
referred
to
as
bdr248,
and
there
are
a
number
of
benefits
from
that
in
terms
of
safety,
jobs
and
greenhouse
gas
reductions,
and
then
turning
to
the
last
slide,
I
may
I
may
have
gone
over
my
15-minute
allowance,
but
I
tried
to
do
the
speed
version
of
this
at
southwest
gas.
J
We're
really
very
proud
to
help
to
have
provide
some
supportive
factor
in
nevada's
historic
growth
and
economic
development,
we're
really
very
interested
in
continuing
to
improve
our
systems
and
try
these
new
technologies
like
renewable,
natural
gas,
hydrogen
energy
efficiency
to
help
us
get
as
a
company
to
a
place
where
we
are
net
zero,
while
still
being
able
to
afford
that
service
to
our
customers
at
a
much
lower
cost
than
under
any
electrification
scenario.
So
with
that,
I
thank
the
committee
for
the
opportunity
to
present
today
and
on
behalf
of
southwest
gas.
B
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
presentation
and
you
did
a
great
job
getting
through
it
quickly.
Members
on
the
presentation
is
up
on
nellis
and
you
can
print
that
and
look
it
over
and
if
you
have
any
specific
questions
to
reach
out
to
southwest
gas,
but
I
know
that
vice
chair
watts
did
have
a
question
and
I
believe
there
may
be
two
more.
There
are
some
members
that
have
to
leave
to
make
it
to
a
four
o'clock
meeting.
E
So
much
madam
chair,
thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
there's
a
combination.
E
And
one
of
the
good
things
about
it
is
it's
more
of
a
request
for
some
follow-up
information,
so
we
can
just
keep
it
moving.
You
don't
have
to
give
me
an
answer
right
now,
all
right.
E
I
noticed
your
your
slide
16
that
showed
gas
use
and
emissions
trends,
and
I
think
it
would
be
really
great
if,
if
you
could
follow
up
with
some
more
information
on
what
the
emissions
profile
of
the
the
company's
operations
here
in
nevada
has
been,
you
know,
and
you
know
are
we
are:
are-
is
southwest
gas
bringing
methane
emissions
from
from
their
activities
down?
Is
it?
Is
it
continuing
to
go
up?
And
you
know
what
are
what
are
the
the
different
methods
that
you
talked
about?
E
How
are
you
projecting
those
to
impact
those
going
forward?
You
know,
including
how
much
biomethane
or
renewable
natural
gas
you're
planning
to
deploy
and
some
of
the
other
things
that
you
presented
and
and
the
other
thing
that's
just
a
comment
is,
I
definitely
agree
with
you
on
slide:
18
about
the
generation
of
power
through
the
use
of
natural
gas
versus
direct
use,
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
I'm
a
big
supporter
of
making
sure
that
we're
generating
our
power
from
our
local
homegrown,
clean
energy
sources,
that'll
I'll.
E
J
Absolutely
john
hester
for
the
record,
madam
chair,
through
you
to
the
assemblyman.
Those
are
great
questions.
We
have
made
a
commitment
at
our
company
for
our
fleet
and
for
our
facilities
to
have
a
reduction
of
20
greenhouse
gas
emissions
by
2025.
We
have
been
replacing
our
gasoline
and
diesel
fleets
with
cng
and
we
are
looking
at
incorporating
the
renewable
natural
gas
and
hydrogen
in
those
vehicles
as
we
move
forward.
C
Sorry,
I'm
not
sure
if
there's
questions
for
mr
hester
or
mr
leedham,
but
in
your
slides,
you
talked
about
how
you
went
through
a
moratorium
of
not
shutting
off
the
gas
et
cetera
people
affected
by
covet,
losing
their
jobs
or
being
laid
off
or
whatever
and
later
in
your
slide,
you
were
talking
about
customer
service,
et
cetera.
I've
had
many
neighbors
come
and
tell
me
that
they
took
advantage
of
the
and
then
at
the
end
of
I
forget,
60
or
90
days.
C
Whatever
that
moratorium
was
they
paid
their
bill
in
full
and
complete
all
caught
up.
Two
months
later,
they
received
another
bill
from
your
company,
saying
they
owed
them
a
deposit
because
of
their
payments
being
late
and
even
though
they've
been
with
the
company
for
years
and
years
and
years.
C
J
Yes,
john
hester,
for
the
record,
madam
chair.
Through
you
to
assemblyman
wheeler.
We
definitely
can
work
with
those
customers.
We
realize
that
a
lot
of
folks
had
gone
through
some
tough
times
and
to
your
point,
a
lot
of
our
customers
that
maybe
had
a
little
bit
of
a
rough
patch
have
come
back
and
paid
their
bills.
J
They
value
the
natural
gas
service
and
I
can
follow
up
on
some
of
those
instances
where
there
might
have
been
an
automatic
generation
of
a
deposit,
because
we
certainly
don't
want
that
to
be
part
of
the
the
recovery
from
all
of
the
economic
turmoil
caused
by
the
pandemic.
J
D
Thank
you,
madam
chairman.
You
mentioned
spring
creek
nevada
and
I
think
that's
really
important
because
we're
finally
getting
natural
gas
out
there
and
some
of
the
people
are
way
out
there
on
propane.
So
this
is
kind
of
like
a
life
and
death
situation
in
the
wintertime
and
then
the
other
thing
is
is
wells
nevada.
They
had
two
large
businesses
looking
to
move
to
nevada,
but
if
they
don't
have
natural
gas,
then
they're
going
to
move
on,
but
the
biggest
thing
I'm
hearing
from
from
the
small
small
businesses
they're
really
worried.
D
If
natural
gas
goes
out,
they
have
to
shut
them
businesses
down,
because
you
can't
depend
on
electric
power
and
be
compatible
yeah,
I
mean
it
it.
It
it'll
just
knock
them
out,
and
you
answer
any
of
them,
because
some
of
these
places
that
will
really
have
a
large
impact.
If,
if
they
had
to
go
to
power
it
it
won't
work.
J
Absolutely
john
hester
for
the
record,
madam
chair,
through
you
to
assemblyman
ellison,
and
I
think
that
those
are
good
points.
We
certainly
are
very
interested
in
expanding
natural
gas
service
to
additional
areas
up
north
elko
that
you
reference
is
an
extremely
cold
part
of
the
state
also
happens
to
be
a
very
beautiful
part
of
the
state.
J
I've
been
there
a
number
of
times
myself,
and
it
is
an
area
that
we
have
been
able
to
increase
the
even
the
historically
high
level
of
reliability
by
some
additional
facilities
that
we
put
in
place
to
tie
into
ruby
pipeline.
J
So
when
I
was
in
gas
supply,
probably
about
25
years
ago,
one
of
the
things
that
we
always
were
very
concerned
about
was
elko
was
at
the
end
of
what
we
called
the
straw
and
we
had
the
pipeline
from
paiute
the
main
line
we
had
the
lng
plant,
and
then
we
needed
to
make
sure
that
we
loaded
that
line.
Whenever
we
saw
extremely
cold
weather
come
in.
Since
then,
we've
been
able
to
tie
into
another
pipeline
ruby
pipeline
to
provide
an
extremely
high
level
of
reliability.
J
J
There
are
a
lot
of
businesses
that
even
invest
in
a
small
backup
power
generation
using
natural
gas,
because
in
most
cases,
if
you
see
the
electricity
go
out
which
is
fairly
rare
here
in
nevada,
I
believe
you,
you
still
will
see
natural
gas
flowing,
so
we
definitely
would
be
very
interested.
You
mentioned
wells
some
of
the
businesses
up.
There
were
very
interested
in
using
that
senate
bill
151
legislation
to
continue
to
extend
the
affordability
and
the
reliability
of
natural
gas
service
to
areas
as
you
mentioned.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chairman.
I
really
appreciate
it
and,
like
I
said
it,
you
know
the
natural
gas
is
a
lifeblood
for
rural
nevada
and
without
it
there's
no
way
you
could
operate.
D
So
I
appreciate
everything
you
said
and-
and
thank
you,
madam
chairman,
for
allowing
me
to
sneak
in
there
and
get
a
word
in,
but
anything
I
can
do
to
help
you
in
rural
nevada,
I'm
more
than
happy
to
help.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
and
I
am
not
seeing
any
more
questions
from
our
members.
I
want
to
thank
you
again
for
the
the
presentation
and
I
am
so
sorry
about
the
limited
amount
of
time
we
had
today,
but
we
appreciate
all
the
information
you
brought
to
us
and
again
members.
If
you
have
any
questions,
please
feel
free
to
reach
out
directly
to
the
presenters
to
have
those
questions
answered.
B
E
I
B
Thank
you
so
much
for
that.
So
members.
That
brings
us
to
the
end
of
our
meeting.
Our
next
meeting
will
be
on
thursday
february
25th
at
1
30,
where
we'll
hear
four
bills,
you'll
all
be
excited
to
hear
that
we
are
actually
hearing
bills
on
thursday.
So
I
wish
you
all
a
great
day
and
to
your
other
chairs,
to
the
knees
you
have
to
go
to
apologize
for
the
lengthy
time
of
this
month
have
a
great
day.
Everyone.