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A
Here
we
do
have
a
quorum.
I
believe
assemblywoman
krasner
has
not
yet
joined
us,
so
please
mark
her
absent
for
the
time
being,
and
if
and
when
she
arrives,
we
will
mark
her
as
present
good
morning
to
the
members
of
the
committee
good
morning
to
members
of
the
public
who
may
be
watching
this
meeting
online
or
on
the
youtube
channel.
I
want
to
welcome
you
to
day
31
of
the
81st
session
of
the
nevada
legislature.
A
We
are
glad
to
have
you
with
us
before
we
get
started
on
today's
agenda.
Just
go
over
a
few
housekeeping
matters
for
members
on
the
zoom
and
presenters
who
may
be
on
the
zoom
with
us
as
well.
Please
make
sure
you
mute
yourself
when
you're,
not
speaking,
that'll
help
with
the
audio
feedback
and
for
presenters
anytime,
you
speak
or
you're
asked
a
question.
If
you
could,
please
remember
to
state
your
name
that
will
help
our
committee
secretary
prepare
the
minutes.
A
We
do
expect
courtesy
and
respect
in
our
interactions
with
one
another.
We
don't
always
agree,
that's
perfectly
fine,
but
we
need
to
make
sure
we're
being
respectful
of
one
another
and
of
the
legislative
institution
and
then
finally,
many
members
have
multiple
devices
and
screens
in
front
of
them.
So
please
don't
see
it
as
a
sign
of
disrespect
or
inattention
if
members
appear
to
be
looking
away
during
the
meeting
they're,
most
likely
looking
at
exhibits
or
testimony
online.
A
So
with
that
behind
us
we'll
go
to
our
agenda
and
just
so
everyone
has
a
lay
of
the
land
here,
we're
going
to
take
the
bills
slightly
out
of
order,
so
we'll
start
with
assembly
bill
149
and
then
we're
going
to
go
to
assembly,
bill,
158
and
finish
with
157,
so
we're
going
to
swap
the
second
and
third
bill
on
the
agenda
in
terms
of
order.
I
would
note
for
the
record
as
well
that
assemblywoman
krasner
has
joined
us.
A
So,
madam
secretary,
please
mark
her
as
present
and
at
this
time
I'm
going
to
open
up
the
hearing
on
assembly,
bill
149
assembly,
bill
149
and
acts
provisions
relating
to
cannabis,
independent
testing
laboratories,
I'll.
Let
members
of
the
committee
members
of
the
public
know
that
there
is
an
amendment
that
you
should
be
able
to
find
on
nellis.
That
makes
some
pretty
substantial
changes
to
the
original
bill.
So
I
imagine
we'll
probably
be
working
off
of
that
amendment
this
morning
and
then
I
want
to
welcome
back
to
the
assembly
judiciary,
committee,
assemblywoman
peters.
F
Thank
you
for
the
warm
welcome
chair
and
members
of
the
committee.
Thank
you
for
hearing
ab149
today
related
to
cannabis,
industry,
laboratory
data,
public
transparency
and
reporting.
I
want
to
bring
your
attention
to
the
submitted
draft
proposed
amendment,
as
this
is
what
we'll
be
speaking
to
today.
F
The
purpose
of
ab149
is
to
increase
transparency
for
consumers
of
cannabis
products
in
nevada,
the
cannabis
compliance
board
has
the
authority
to
develop
and
publish
data
collected
via
the
seed
to
sale
program
known
as
metric
laboratory
data
is
one
of
the
most
important
subsets
of
data
available
through
the
metrics
program.
F
Since
the
inception
of
the
medical
and
recreational
use
regulations,
the
respective
regulatory
and
compliance
agencies
have
set
standards
for
consumer
cannabis
products
which
are
verified
through
licensed
independent
laboratories.
The
results
of
these
laboratory
tests
are
available
upon
request
by
the
consumer.
However,
there
is
no
way
to
receive
a
complete
data
set
of
laboratory
analysis
of
products
from
producers
that
is
readily
available
and
accessible
by
the
public.
F
F
It
can
also
tell
stories
about
producer
practices
such
as
shopping
for
results
and
inconsistencies
in
laboratory
results
can
expose
dangerous
practices
of
analytical
manipulation
that
put
the
public
in
potential
harm.
In
the
amendment
section,
2
is
emitted
based
on
the
regulatory
authority
of
the
cannabis
compliance
board
and
the
legal
nature
of
data
collection
or
of
debt
collection.
Excuse
me,
section,
3
is
modified,
proposing
a
database
be
developed
that
contain
all
laboratory
information
related
to
cannabis
products
sold
in
nevada
in
the
state
of
nevada.
F
A
G
You
will
adler
representing
silver
city
government
relations
representing
sierra
cannabis
are
representing
the
scientists
for
consumer
safety
today
and
thank
you,
chair
yeager,
and
I
it
is
a
pleasure
and
an
honor
to
be
back
in
front
of
your
committee.
The
assembly
judiciary,
assembly,
bill
149,
as
somebody
when
peter's
so
elite,
put
needs
a
full
rewrite.
G
G
So
we
did,
you
know,
have
some
back
and
forth
with
the
ccb
about
that
and
we
we
came
to
understand
that
the
core
of
this
issue
is
getting
the
data
and
getting
it
to
the
public
in
some
way
that
you
know
uses
the
data
that
nevada
already
pays
for
scientists
for
consumer
safety
is
the
laboratory-based
cannabis
testing
group
and
essentially,
in
our
whole
scope
and
in
the
name
of
our
group,
is
trying
to
keep
the
consumers
safe
in
nevada.
G
So
anything
we
can
do
to
promote
the
the
transparency
of
the
data
and
the
tests
done
on
the
cannabis
is
something
we
support.
So
we
think
assemblywoman
peter's
bringing
this
forward
and
we
hope
you
all
have
a
good
rest
of
judiciary
and
ask
any
questions
you
have.
Thank
you.
A
F
I
believe
that
the
cannabis
compliance
board
is
here
to
answer
any
questions
specific
to
their
activities
related
to
this
bill.
So
I
am
open
to
questions.
Sorry,
sarah
peters,
for
the
record.
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
for
the
presentation
before
I
go
to
members,
I
I
guess
one
question
that
that
I
had
I'm
not
sure
if
it
would
be
best
addressed
by
you
or
by
the
cannabis
compliance
board,
but
I
just
wondered:
if
there's
some
more
detail
about
what
this
I
know
this
is
bill
hasn't
passed
yet,
but
if
there
was
a
vision
about
what
this
electronic
database
you
know
would
sort
of
look
like
where
it
would
be
housed,
is
it
going
to
be
accessible
on
the
internet,
just
those
kind
of
details
to
the
extent
we
might
have
them
at
this
point.
F
Well,
I
have
an
idea
of
what
I
would
like
to
see
it
look
like
based
on
what
is
usable
for
me
and
the
scope
of
the
work
that
I
do
in
my
professional
life,
but
I
actually
am
going
to
divert
this
question.
Sorry,
some
assemblywoman
peters
for
the
record,
divert
the
question
to
the
cannabis
compliance
board.
If
they
wouldn't
mind
responding
about
what
it
looks
like.
A
Go
ahead,
mr
climates,
I
just
I
have
a
lot
of
people
on
my
screen
today
and
I
was
trying
to
figure
figure
out
which
square
you
were
in
so
I
I
see
you
now
and
please
go
ahead
with
you
with
the
answer
to
the
question.
G
Sure
thank
you,
chair,
tyler
klimas,
for
the
record
and
thank
you
assemblywoman.
So
if
this
bill
was
to
go
forward
and
and
and
the
board
was
to
develop
a
database,
obviously
probably
the
ideal
spot
would
be
on
the
cannabis
compliance
board
website.
We
currently
have
a
statistics
page.
We
have
a
lot
of
other
data,
including
owner
officer
board
member
information
on
our
website.
So
you
know,
I
would
assume
that
that
would
be
an
ideal
place
for
this.
This
database
to
be
to
be
housed.
F
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Assemblywoman
peters,
for
the
record.
There
has
been
actually
some
recent
activity
related
to
this
and
I
would
again
request
that
the
cannabis
compliance
board
speak
a
little
bit
to
the
most
recent
activities
related
to
laboratory
fraud.
G
Thank
you
chair.
Thank
you,
tyler
klimas,
for
the
record
and
assemblywoman
thanks
for
your
your
question,
I
think,
actually,
at
the
beginning
of
february,
when
I
was
in
front
of
this
board,
I
I
believe
I
said
if
I
could
have
a
a
laboratory
division
within
the
cannabis
compliance
board.
I
would
I
would-
and
hopefully
I
do
at
some
point.
So
yes,
we
know
that
there
are
issues
with
with
labs.
We've
just
finished
a
14-month
investigation
into
a
lab.
G
You
know
a
lot
of
our
actions
have
been
very
public
because
a
lot
of
them
have
to
do
with
public
health
and
safety
advisories
that
that
we
issue,
so
you
know,
I
believe,
we're
making
progress.
There's
a
lot
of
progress
to
be
made.
We've
got
a
lot
of
great
inspectors
on
our
team.
Hopefully
we
we
get
to
build
out
that
team.
So
yeah,
it's
it's
a
major
component
of
this
industry.
We
consider
laboratories
the
gatekeeper
of
the
industry,
obviously
integral
for
keeping
consumers
in
in
nevada
safe
with
the
product.
F
Thank
you,
assemblywoman
peters.
If
I
may,
I
just
want
to
emphasize
the
importance
of
the
value
of
the
data
that
comes
out
of
our
laboratories
and,
if
it's
not
held
in
the
kind
of
integrity
that
it
should
be,
the
potential
for
harm
can
be
so
great.
There's
a
lot
of
power
wielded
in
that
data,
and
it's
important
that
the
public,
as
well
as
regulators,
be
allowed
to
hold
those
data
to
the
highest
standard
of
accuracy
and
applicability
to
the
industry.
A
K
Ahead,
thank
you,
mr
speaker,
and
probably
mr
klimas
question
for
you.
If
you
said
that
the
labs
are
the
gatekeepers
of
the
industry
and
if
that's
true,
I
was
recently
reading
an
article
from
the
las
vegas
review
journal
about
how
the
labs
really
are
operating
without
any
controls
or
supervision
of
them.
You've
got
one
mechanics.
I
think
it's
called
canada
or
I
think
it's
kanex
nevada,
that
expenses
their
license
has
been
suspended.
They've
got
multiple
violations
now
and
they're
still
operating.
G
Sir
thank
you
zimmerman
and
tyler
klimas
for
the
record
and
you're
right.
As
I
mentioned,
they
are
the
gatekeepers,
which
is
why
it's
so
important
that
they
they
are
regulated
and
and
that
we
have.
G
You
know,
enforcement
capability
and
we
move
forward
with
enforcement
actions
in
on
labs
and,
as
I
mentioned,
and
as
you
can
imagine,
assimilating
these
inspections
and
investigations
are
are
are
unlike
other
establishments
because
they're
so
complicated
right,
because
we're
dealing
with
with
operating
procedures
and
and
it's
very
scientific,
and
why,
as
I
mentioned,
we
just
took
action
against
a
lab
and
it
took
14
months
to
complete
that
investigation.
G
You
know
we're
talking
about.
You
know
6
000
documents
as
part
of
that
so
and
and
and
so
again,
if,
if
I
could
have
a
lab
division,
I
I
would
and
that
doesn't
help
us
or
or
or
answer
your
question
any
better,
but
I'm
just
saying
you're
absolutely
right.
It's
an
issue,
that's
top
of
mind
for
the
agency.
We
do
have
a
great
small
team
of
of
three
lab
inspectors,
but
they
are
are
very
technical
and
they're.
G
Very
you
know
some
of
the
best
I
think
in
in
the
nation,
but
you
know
we
use
data
to
look
at
trends
in
the
industry,
especially
with
labs
and
and
there's
issues
like
thc
in
in
inflation.
There
is
lab
shopping
and
in
passing
product
when
it
should
fail.
So
it's
a
very
serious
issue.
G
We
take
it
very
seriously
and
again
it's
just
it's
it's
it's
highly
technical,
that's
the
nature
of
of
the
labs,
and
so
you
know,
hopefully
we
we
continue
to
expand,
as
as
as
the
ccb
on
that
aspect
of
the
industry,.
F
I
may
also
interject
assemblywoman
peters,
for
the
record.
One
of
the
capacity
building
components
of
this
database
would
be
to
automate
some
of
that
technical
analysis.
That's
done
currently
by
individuals
of
the
cannabis
compliance
board,
so
you
can
run
an
algorithm
that
will
do
an
automated
statistical
analysis
to
identify
anomalies
that
will
allow
proactively
the
cannabis
compliance
board
to
identify
potential
failures
in
the
laboratory
analysis
process.
F
That's
a
huge
advantage
for
a
small
entity
who,
who
may
not
have
the
capacity
to
address
all
of
the
data
that
is
available,
which
is
a
huge
quantity
of
data
by
the
way.
So
I
think
ultimately,
the
the
adoption
and
and
development
of
this
is
such
a
strategic
tool
for
the
cannabis
compliance
board
to
be
on
top
of
their
compliance.
Efforts
for
the
laboratories.
K
You
probably
won't
be
a
question,
I'm
going
to
make
a
statement.
Miss
peters,
I
agree
with
you.
I
think,
collecting
the
data
having
the
data
public
being
able
to
write,
as
you
say,
the
algorithms
that
give
you
indications,
I'm
all
for
it.
I
believe
in
strong
supervision,
and
we,
when
the
legislature
passed
the
cannabis
laws,
they
were
said
how
they
were
going
to
be
the
premier
of
the
country,
strong
enforcement,
mr
klamas,
I'm
going
to
tell
you
shut
a
couple
of
those
labs
down,
take
the
license.
K
E
Good
morning,
thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
so
much
woman
peters,
it's
good
to
see
you
and
mr
actually,
I
think
most
of
my
questions
were
answered
in
the
last
segment,
but
just
a
couple
more
things.
So
to
clarify
with
the
amendment
section,
three
is
essentially
what
what
the
bill
will
be
now
is
that
correct.
E
And
then
the
last
thing,
as
you
can
tell
I'm
just
trying
to
clarify
to
make
sure
I'm
getting
it
all
straight
with
the
bill
that
you're
looking
to
use
the
data
in
this
database
to
accomplish
several
things.
But
could
you
maybe
give
us
a
real
life
scenario
that
might
exist
right
now
that
you
would
be
able
to
if
this
bill
were
to
pass?
E
What
would
it
address
in
the
sense
that
what's
a
current
problem,
we
have
right
now
that
now
the
database
will
provide
that
information
to
the
public.
I
understand
that
part,
but
maybe
tell
us
what
are
we
going
to
see
if
we
go
to
that
website
on
on
this
I
mean
go
to
the
ccp
website
and
access
the
database
or
lay
people
looking
into
it.
What
are
we
going
to
be
able
to
understand
now
that
you're
able
to
address
that?
Maybe
we
aren't
now.
F
Assemblywoman
peters
for
the
record.
Thank
you
for
that
clarifying
question.
I
think
it's
really
important
to
understand
how
public
access
to
data
can
be
used
to
to
keep
ourselves
safe.
F
I
think
one
of
the
one
of
the
examples
I'm
I'm
going
to
suggest
is:
if
you
look
at
nutrition
fact,
information
on
our
food
products
right
that
helps
us
understand
what
it
is
that
we're
consuming.
F
F
Additionally
for
folks
who
are
more
interested
in
in
the
maybe
the
regulatory
side
or
the
laboratory
analytical
side,
they
could
look
up.
Maybe
trends
in
the
thc.
F
F
You
could
also
pull
any
analysis
that
was
done
on
a
specific
product
batch
which
could
be
from
a
couple
of
different
entities
and
see
if
those
entities
have
shown
different
cut,
different
concentrations,
in
which
case
that
self
polices
the
producers
and
allows
the
public
to
kind
of
call
out
inconsistencies
in
laboratory
analysis.
F
I
think
that's
more
of
a
tool
for
the
cannabis
compliance
board,
but
for
people
who
are
interested-
and
there
are
quite
a
few-
like
kind
of
novice
data
interested
people
in
the
cannabis
world,
I
think
it's
an
important
piece
to
be
able
to
see.
It
additionally
holds
laboratories
and
producers
accountable
for
for
their
products
right
and,
if
they're
saying
that
a
cannabis
product
has
so
much
thc
in
it
or
so
much
other
compounds
in
it.
I'm
sorry
thc
is
this
the
one
that
I
can
remember
off
the
top
of
my
head.
F
A
Assemblywoman
hanson
can
I
I
think
mr
adler
wanted
to
add
something.
So
let's
allow
him
to
add
his
comment
and
then
we'll
go
back
to
you.
G
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Someone
hansen
will
adler
representing
scientists
for
consumer
safety
for
the
record
briefly,
a
real-time
example
of
that
data
bank.
Usefulness
for
having
this
data
in
a
published
format.
Metric
is
a
seed
to
sale,
tracking
data
bank.
That
already
exists
that
we
already
see
our
own
data
for
so,
if
you're,
a
cultivator
you're
a
lab
or
you're
a
dispensary,
any
one
piece
of
that
group
or
do
on
all
three
pieces
get
on
the
lab.
You
can
see
that
everything
you've
done
in
metric
and
all
your
own
data
as
a
laboratory.
G
You
know
three
months:
every
product
they've
tried
to
test,
but
they'll
go
to
a
new
lab
and
say:
hey,
I'm
a
clean
cultivator,
please,
you
know
take
me
as
a
new
test
and
we
start
failing
them.
It
ends
up
becoming
this
conflict
where
they
say
hey.
It's
got
to
be
something
wrong
with
you
guys,
not
us,
because
we're
a
clean
cultivator,
but
if
we
could
see
the
historic
data
and
actually
pull
up
some
sort
of
indication
of
where
they
were
historically,
we
could
sort
of
defend
ourselves.
Our
practices
say:
hey
the
the
science
is
sound.
G
E
Thank
you
that
that
was
very
helpful
and
then
just
one
last
little
thing
because
I
haven't
purchased
any
recently,
but
is
there
not
an
informational
sticker
on
the
products
when
you
buy
them
to
tell
you
what's
in
it,
because
I
know
that
you
mentioned
to
someone
peter's,
that
you
can
go
to
the
website
and
and
check
what
the
ingredients
are.
But
don't
they
have
that
already
on
the
products.
A
A
A
H
H
H
J
J
I
believe
data
transparency
will
benefit
the
cannabis
laboratory.
The
consumers
in
the
state,
the
intent
of
the
bill
is
simple
and
straightforward
and
I
believe,
will
be
successful
in
its
intent,
which
is
to
foster
responsible
behavior
in
nevada's
cannabis
industry
metric
the
seed
to
sale,
tracking
software
mandated
by
the
state
already
contains
all
the
necessary
data.
J
Making
this
data
public
in
a
searchable
database
will
allow
any
fraud
to
be
fared
it
out.
Since
the
inception
of
nevada's
cannabis
program,
there
have
been
numerous
news
reports
locally
and
nationally
of
significant
fraudulent
results
associated
with
lab
testing
in
nevada.
A
number
of
these
have
resulted
in
product
recalls
and
charges
leveled
against
the
offending
laboratories.
J
Several
laboratories
have
had
their
licenses
suspended
more
than
once
after
being
charged
by
the
state
with
serious
violations,
including
producing
fraudulent
test
results.
It
is
an
open
secret
in
the
cannabis
industry
that
certain
laboratories
will
provide
inflated
thc
levels
and
passing
results
to
failing
products
for
certain
consumers
and
produce
cultivators
and
producers.
J
This
unscrupulous
behavior
has
gone
on
far
too
long
and
must
be
stopped.
It
endangers
and
defrauds
the
consumer
and
makes
a
mockery
of
the
hard
work
the
legislature
has
done
in
crafting
the
program
in
nevada.
Nevada's
cannabis
testing
program
should
and
can
be
the
gold
standard
of
the
industry.
What
is
necessary
to
accomplish
this
is
appropriate
enforcement.
J
The
key
to
enforcement
is
knowing
who
is
violating
the
law,
as
was
stated
so
eloquently
earlier
prior
statistical
analysis
of
the
testing
data
clearly
identified
a
lab
that
has
recently
been
charged
with
over
12
000
violations
and
is
still
open
today,
other
laboratories
were
statistically
clustered
next
to
that
laboratory
that
has
been
charged
and
likewise
warrants
serious
scrutiny.
The
metric
database
already
exists
and
simply
needs
to
be
made
available
for
statistical
analysis.
J
Making
the
historic
metric
data
available
with
continuous
updates
is
all
that
is
needed.
Members
of
the
industry
interested
reporters
and
the
interested
consuming
public
will
readily
and
at
no
cost
to
the
state,
perform
the
analysis
which
the
state
can
verify
and
then
use
to
target
their
investigations.
J
This
will
allow
the
state
to
focus
their
precious
time
in
human
resources,
where
it's
needed
to
clean
up
the
industry
and
achieve
the
integrity
and
vision
by
the
legislators
when
they
enacted
the
nevada,
adult
use
cannabis
program.
We
wholeheartedly
support
ab149
and
ask
for
the
committee's
support.
We
believe
it
will
be
an
extremely
efficient
and
effective
method
of
achieving
major
improvements
in
the
integrity
and
safety
of
nevada's,
cannabis,
industry,
honest
and
efficient
laboratories,
cultivators
and
producers
will
benefit
while
providing
the
consumer
with
safe,
accurately
labeled
cannabis.
J
A
A
H
A
Thank
you
bps.
I
will
close
opposition
testimony.
I
will
now
open
neutral
testimony.
Is
there
anybody
on
the
zoom
that
would
like
to
testify
in
neutral?
If
so,
please
unmute
and
let
me
know,
I'm
not
seeing
anybody
on
muting
on
the
zoom
vps.
Could
we
go
to
the
phone
to
see
if
there's
anyone
there
with
neutral
testimony.
A
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
sarah
peters,
for
the
record.
I
just
really
want
to
thank
the
committee
for
considering
this
piece
of
legislation
and
for
entertaining
and
understanding
that
this
data
and
its
value
is
so
imperative
to
the
success
of
the
of
the
cannabis
industry
and
market
and
for
the
safety
of
consumers.
A
A
A
I
will
alert
you
that
there
are,
I
believe,
two
amendments
to
the
bill
on
nellis
that
I
think
sort
of
overlay,
one
on
top
of
the
other,
so
I
believe
we'll
be
working
off
of
those
in
some
fashion
today,
and
I
want
to
welcome
to
the
committee
our
own
assemblywoman
danielle,
monroe
moreno
and
she
is
joined
by
a
few
others
who
are
on
the
zoom
with
us
as
well.
I'm
going
to
give
them
a
chance
to
present
the
bill
and
assemblywoman
I'll.
A
Let
you
determine
what
order
you
would
like
to
go
in
as
far
as
presentation
and
then
when
we
have
the
presentation
finished,
I'm
sure
we'll
have
some
questions
and
then
we'll
go
to
testimony.
So
welcome
to
all
of
you
who
are
joining
us
for
assembly
bill
158
assemblywoman,
please
proceed
when
you're
ready.
L
L
Thank
you,
mr
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record.
I
am
assemblywoman
danielle
monroe
moreno,
representing
assembly
district
one
I'm
here
today
to
present
for
your
consideration
assembly
bill
158,
which
addresses
the
penalties
for
youth,
cannabis
and
alcohol
purchase,
consumption
and
possession.
A
Thank
you
assemblywoman,
and
I
know
you
have
your
own
duties
today
as
far
as
chairing
subcommittee,
so
don't
feel
obligated
to
stay
with
us
for
the
bill
hearing.
I
know
you
have
some
other
folks
who
are
more
than
capable
of
of
presenting
the
bill
so
members,
if,
if
the
assemblywoman
has
to
drop
off,
that's
because
she's
doing
multiple
jobs
today,
so
thank
you
assemblywoman
and
welcome
ms
goins
to
the
assembly
judiciary
committee.
A
D
I
appreciate
your
time
assemblyman,
yeager,
judiciary,
chair
and
also
assemblywoman
danielle
monroe
mourinho
for
allowing
me
the
opportunity
to
present
this
piece
of
policy,
and
so
I'm
driving
on
the
15
headed
to
california,
for
some
much
needed
rest
enjoying
the
sunshine
think
about
what
we're
able
to
accomplish
in
the
80th
legislative
recession
excited
about
the
folks
that
would
be
able
to
have
their
record
sealed
because
of
assemblyman
mccurdy's
bill
ab-192
and
the
thousands
of
folks
that
would
have
their
citizenship
restored
because
of
speaker
fryson
bill
ab431.
D
I
felt
accomplished
and
proud
of
the
legislatures
and
the
state
where
I
serve.
I
knew
those
bills
would
mean
more
work
for
the
summer,
but
who
cares?
Because
I'm
about
that
work
fast
forward
to
may
25th
2020
and
we
have
all
been
quarantined
for
a
little
over
60
days
and
like
the
rest
of
the
world.
I
have
time
to
watch
social
media,
I'm
scrolling
on
facebook,
and
I
can
see
and
feel
the
anger
and
the
horror
of
my
community.
D
D
George
floyd's
last
eight
minutes
and
46
seconds
will
replay
in
my
mind,
for
the
rest
of
my
life.
As
I
thought
about
this,
I
started
thinking
about
all
the
black
juveniles
in
the
current
system,
a
system
that
is
rooted
in
racism
that
black
people
face
every
day.
When
I
close
my
eyes
at
night,
I
can
hear
those
juveniles
unanswered
cries
for
their
mothers
who
will
answer
them.
D
D
Those
first
two
paragraphs
is
the
reason
why
I
call
assembly
woman,
monroe
moreno
about
ab158,
the
2019
clark
county
department
of
juvenile
justice
services.
Statistical
reports
stated
that
possession
was
the
number
two
most
referred
offense
to
the
juvenile
court
system
battery
being
number
one.
The
report
also
said
that
one
thousand
and
nine
youths
have
been
referred
for
possession
of
marijuana
and
of
those
1009
years.
459
of
those
were
black
and
hispanic.
D
I
have
two
as
I
spoke
to
the
committees
and
I
met
with
each
one.
I
was
asked
to
have
two
representing
people
to
talk
on
this
one.
One
of
the
assembly
persons
asked
me
for
a
doctor,
so
I
have
a
pediatrician
dr
carmen
jones
on
the
line
and
then
the
other
someone
else
asked
me
for
a
licensed
certified
caseworker
and
a
licensed
drug
and
alcohol
counselor
and
mr
anthony
harris
represents
both
of
those.
So
I
can
if
they
would
come
on
dr
jones.
First.
A
I
I
am
a
formally
trained
pediatrician
nearing
30
years.
As
a
physician,
I
have
worked
in
almost
all
sectors
of
my
field.
This
includes
practices
in
the
private
and
public
sector
in
the
inner
city,
suburban
rural
and
hospital
settings,
notably,
I
spent
three
years
with
the
foster
care
system
in
chicago
and
four
years
at
child
haven
in
clark
county.
I
was
also
the
medical
director
for
huntbridge
teen
clinic
here
in
las
vegas
for
seven
years.
I
We
now
understand,
after
statistics
have
been
tabulated
and
stated
previously
that
black
and
brown
youth
are
three
to
four
times
as
likely
to
be
referred
to
detention
than
their
white
counterparts.
I
do
not
believe
that
those
offenders
of
any
color
should
be
referred
to.
Detention,
however,
whether
it
be
a
child
adolescent
or
even
an
adult
being
reprimanded
into
a
holding
facility
is
traumatic.
I
I
This
includes
everything
from
sheer
embarrassment
to
serious
and
sustained
trauma.
This
can
include
loss
of
potential
financial
gains
and
employment,
additional
insecurities
within
the
home,
mental
instability,
anxiety,
depression,
initiation
of
continued
drug
initiation
of
or
continued
drug
use
and
the
revolving
door
of
recidivism.
I
Children
and
adolescents
should
not
be
referred
into
a
detention
facility
and
certainly
not
for
a
first
offense.
If
the
youth
continues
to
get
in
trouble
and
has
repeated
offenses,
I
submit
to
you
that
it
is
because
the
youth
most
likely
has
a
problem.
The
nature
of
this
problem
is
excuse.
Me
should
be
examined
and
evaluated.
I
I
admit
as
well
that
a
child
or
youth
who
continues
this
behavior
may
be
better
served
by
undergoing
a
psychological
evaluation
from
a
professional
as
one
of
my
senior
colleagues
who's
been
practicing
medicine
for
well
over
50
years,
and
I
agree
stated
any
child
who
repeatedly
uses
cannabis
specific
consequences
either
has
adhd
or
ptsd
that
has
been
undiagnosed
until
proven.
Otherwise.
I
I
am
well
aware
that
this
is
a
belief,
but
excuse
me,
I'm
well
aware
that
this
is
a
belief
that
has
not
been
studied.
However,
I
am
also
well
aware
that
very
few
of
my
colleagues
in
pediatrics
have
extensive
training
or
experience
in
cannabis.
Medicine
is
because
of
that
that
I
am
here
today
on
behalf
of
children
and
youth,
for
which
I
continue
to
fight,
as
I
have
done
for
the
last
30
plus
years.
Thank
you
for
your
attention
this
morning.
A
M
It
is
my
professional
opinion
that
the
existing
law
punishing
young
people
under
the
age
of
21
for
misdemeanor
substance,
use,
offenses
with
imprisonment
of
up
to
six
months
and
up
to
a
one
thousand
dollar.
Fine
or
even
both
is
excessive
and
counterproductive
to
the
development
of
these
young
people
and
to
the
nevada
communities
as
a
whole.
By
modifying
this
law,
several
outcomes
could
result
a
reduction
of
the
school-to-prison
pipeline
for
many
of
our
nevada,
children
and
teens,
which
adversely
affects
more
minorities.
M
By
changing
these
penalties
to
assistance,
it
will
give
those
who
truly
have
problems
with
substance.
Use
the
opportunity
to
make
things
right
within
their
within
their
lives,
provide
them
to
help
the
help
that
they
need
and
give
them
a
chance
to
succeed.
M
In
my
closing,
it
is
my
professional
opinion
that
amending
this
law
would
benefit
nevada
communities
as
a
whole
more
than
if
the
penalties
of
this
current
bill
remain
the
same.
Therefore,
I
am
in
support
of
the
revision
of
assembly
bill
number
158.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
speak
to
you,
and
may
god
bless
you
all.
A
I
believe
next
we
have
miss
burchie
and
I
see
mr
pirro
is
on
as
well,
and
I
assume
that
you
two
are
going
to
take
us
through
the
amendments
to
the
bill
and
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
how
it
would
work
and
then,
after
they're
done
committee,
we'll
have
a
chance
to
ask
questions.
So,
ms
burchie,
I
see
that
you're
on
muting,
so
please
go
ahead.
N
N
It
amends
the
statutes
penalizing
individuals
aged
18
to
21
for
using
marijuana
and
alcohol,
so
this
statute
does
not
apply
to
adults
21
years
of
age
and
older.
The
conceptual
amendment
lays
out
the
penalties
for
violating
those
statutes,
based
on
the
number
of
times
that
an
individual
individual
commits
that
offense.
In
drafting
the
amendment.
The
goals
were
to
ensure
that
there
is
punishment,
because
the
individual
did
violate
the
law,
but
also
not
inject
that
person
into
the
criminal
justice
system.
N
We
received
a
suggestion
from
the
district
attorney's
association
that
we
agree
with,
so
we
some
language
will
be
forthcoming.
We
are
still
in
discussion
with
them
as
to
exactly
what
the
punishment
shall
be,
but
instead
of
having
graduated
sanctions
based
on
the
number
of
offenses,
there
will
be
one
uniform
punishment.
N
N
N
In
that
subsection.
There's
an
amendment
to
nrs62b,
3201
and
nrs62b
332,
a
those
are
primarily
jurisdictional
changes.
Every
crime
is
a
delinquent
act
when
it's
committed
by
a
juvenile
anyone
under
the
age
of
18..
We
are
just
bringing
this
in
line
with
alcohol
and
marijuana
offenses
with
the
behaviors
that
are
called
status,
offenses,
where
it
is
not
a
crime,
but
it
is
an
offense
due
to
the
age
of
the
offender.
For
example,
a
status
offense
would
be
smoking
cigarettes,
it's
not
a
crime
for
adults,
but
it
is
for
those
for
children.
N
N
The
first
three
sections
mirror
the
language
from
statutes
for
other
status,
offenses,
specifically
the
use
of
tobacco,
since
this
is
a
similar
offense,
the
framework
should
remain
the
same.
In
the
proposed
amendment
from
the
district
attorney's
office.
We
will
combine
it
with
their
suggestion
to
ensure
that
there's
the
requirement
that
a
parent
or
guardian
be
notified.
We
agree
with
that
suggestion.
N
Then
subsection
four
sets
out
the
penalty
or
sanction
for
the
violation
section
a
is
for
a
first
offense.
It
allows
for
these
charges
to
be
treated
informally
and
by
a
term
of
community
services
when
it's
handled
informally.
That
means
that
there's
not
a
petition
filed
by
the
district
attorney
and
that
this
could
be
handled
without
going
on
the
child's
record
this
first
second
offense.
N
N
N
A
Thank
you,
miss
burchie.
I
have
a
couple
of
just
clarifying
questions.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
have
a
good
record
in
terms
of
where
we
are
with
the
bill,
so
there
are
two
amendments
that
are
on
nellis,
one
of
course
was
provided
by
the
sponsor
of
the
bill,
and
then
we
have
one
from
the
district
attorney's
office,
which
I
believe
contains
the
additional
language
in
red,
as
well
as
crossing
out
some
of
the
new
green
language,
and
certainly
let
the
district
attorney
speak
about
their
amendment.
A
But
if
I
heard
your
testimony
correctly
with
respect
to
the
first
part
of
the
bill,
the
punishment
for
adults
18
to
21,
it
sounds
like
you're
still
working
on
coming
up
with
what
would
be
a
uniform
penalty.
So,
even
though
the
amendment
says
there's
this
graduated
structure,
it
sounds
like
you're
working
on
finding
just
one
penalty,
no
matter
how
many
times
the
offense
is
committed.
Is
that
correct.
N
That
is
correct
charger
and
kendra
burchie
for
the
record,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
if
we
want
to
ensure
that
there
is
automatic
sealing
and
if
there
is
and
if
a
charge
has
been
automatically
sealed,
then
it
may
not
necessarily
show
up
for
the
district
attorney
if
this
conduct
were
to
persist,
and
so
it
does
not
make
sense
for
their
purposes
to
have
a
first
offense
and
a
second
offense
if
the
automatic
ceiling
has
occurred,
and
we
all
agree
that,
especially
for
these
still
children,
age
18
to
21.
N
A
Thank
you
and
that
that
certainly
makes
sense.
I
think
committee
members,
as
you
can
imagine,
if
a
record
seal,
that's
going
to
be
hard
to
tell
if
it's
somebody's
first,
second
or
third.
So
that
was
a
question
that
I
had,
but
you
have
answered
that
and
then
just
for
clarification
as
well.
I
know
the
juvenile
side
of
this
is
perhaps
a
little
bit
more
complicated,
and
I
think
you
know
the
intent,
I
believe
is
to
get
folks
help
and
treatment.
A
So
it
sounds
like
that
section
that
pertains
to
juveniles
is
still
being
worked
on
exactly
how
the
offense
is
going
to
be
characterized
where
exactly
it
might
land
in
statute.
But
it
sounds
like
there's
a
good
dialogue
happening
and
that
everyone
seems
to
agree
on
the
concept.
It's
just
a
matter
of
how
to
put
it
into
statute.
Did
I
get
that
correctly
as
well.
N
Kendrick
burchie
for
the
record.
Yes,
terry
yeager,
that's
exactly
where
this
use
lies.
If
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
providing
the
appropriate
penalties
and
having
it
laid
out
appropriately
in
our
statute,
so
that
we're
not
we're
allowing
clark
county
to
handle
the
cases,
the
way
that
they
are
that's
successful,
as
well
as
in
other
parts
of
the
state.
A
Great
thank
you
committee
members.
We
had
a
number
of
presenters
on
and
I
want
to
give
folks
a
chance
to
ask
questions
that
you
may
have
either
about
the
bill
or
from
our
other
presenters
who
are
kind
of
out
in
this
field,
doing
the
work.
So,
if
you
could
give
me
a
show
of
hands,
if
anybody
has
a
question,
so
I'm
going
to
make
some
notes
here.
If
you
keep
your
hands
up
for
just
a
second,
so
I
can
jot
down
who's
got
questions
so
far.
A
B
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
david
orient
lecter
for
the
record
assembly
district
20,
and
I'm
just
curious
about
why
the
police
are
involved
at
all.
I
remember
when
we
were
talking
about
a
sale
of
tobacco
products
to
minors
a
couple
weeks
ago.
One
of
the
highlights
was
that
the
punishments
were
for
the
sellers,
not
the
miners,
but
here
we're
talking
about
arresting
miners,
which
seems
like
a
public
health
problem.
Our
police
are
already
overburdened
with
more
serious
crimes.
This
doesn't
strike
me
as
a
crime.
B
N
Kendricky
for
the
record
and
cherry
gear
threw
you
to
assemblyman
or
liquor
I'll.
Just
add
that
I
agree
with
you
that
a
police
officer
should
not
be
arresting
our
juveniles
for
these
offenses.
It's
my
understanding
that
the
way
that
it's
set
forth
in
the
language,
if
we
have
it
where
there's
that
citation,
then
those
youth
will
not
necessarily
be
arrested,
the
officer
could
provide
them
with
a
citation,
so
a
notice
to
appear
instead
of
arresting
them.
N
As
if
you
see
in
sub-section
the
last
section
of
the
amendment
in
section
3,
we
discuss
either
a
referral
or
a
citation.
So
the
way
that
cases
are
brought
to
the
juvenile
justice
system
could
be
by
way
of
citation
with
the
officer
writing
out
that
complaint,
saying
that
an
act
had
occurred
or
they
could
be
referred
to
the
juvenile
justice
system,
and
so
neither
of
those
would
require
a
arrest.
B
While
I
did
talk
about
arrest,
and
that
is
a
problem
I
I
don't
want
to
suggest
that
that's
the
only
concern
I
don't
think
police
should
be
citing
kids.
I
think
this
is
a
serious
issue.
If
you've
got
police,
do
taking
some
kind
of
enforcement
action
for
a
minor
who's,
you
know
not
mature
making.
You
know,
yes,
that's
a
bad
decision,
but
it's
I
don't
think
this
is.
A
A
I
think
that's
usually
what
their
preference
is
on
misdemeanors
unless
there's
some
reason
to
arrest,
but
certainly
that's
not
going
to
satisfy
your
overall
concern
about
criminal
justice
involvement,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
the
record
was
clear
that
it'd
be
pretty
unusual
for
law
enforcement,
to
arrest
on
something
like
this
absent
something
else
going
on
so
I'll.
Just
put
that
out
there
for
the
record
and
let's
move
on
to,
we
have
a
bunch
of
additional
questions.
We'll
go
next
to
assemblyman
o'neill.
K
N
Kendrick
for
the
record
and
cherry
go
through
you
to
assemblyman
o'neill,
that's
actually
the
amendment,
that's
provided
by
the
district
attorney's
office,
so
I'll.
Let
them
describe
how
exactly
they
see
that
going
forward.
We
don't
have
currently
in
that
amendment
language
thing
that
it's
the
police
officer
who
shall
notify
the
parent
or
guardian
and
that's
exactly
what
we're
trying
to
work
on
to
see
how
we
can
craft
the
language
so
that
we
aren't
necessarily
detaining
kids
on
the
side
of
the
street.
So
I
appreciate
your
question.
N
A
And
hopefully,
he's
listening
and
can
be
prepared
to
address
that
when
he
comes
on,
I
just
don't
think
I
have
the
ability
to
get
him
on
right.
The
second
so
okay,
mr.
B
A
If
you're
out
there
and
listening,
please
note
that
question
and
do
you
have
another
question
or
comment
assumptions.
K
It's
just
another
comment:
we
talked
about
consumption
of
alcohol
and
possession
of
alcohol,
and
but
we
don't
state
an
amount,
so
the
person
the
juvenile
could
have
a
12-ounce
can
or
he
could
have
a
keg
of
beer.
K
But
we
do
talk
about
one
ounce
of
marijuana
which
equates
to
depending,
I
guess
how
you
roll
them
30
to
60
joints.
I
see
a
discrepancy
there
to
me.
The
one
ounce
of
marijuana
is
quite
a
bit
just
saying:
possession
of
alcohol
is
too
broad
of
a
statement.
He
thoughts
back
from
this
part.
You
know
that.
N
Kendrick
for
the
record,
chair
yeager
through
to
the
sun
clayman
mr
o'neill,
I
would
just
add
that
the
purpose
for
the
language
with
just
possession
and
then
the
one
ounce
of
marijuana
is
because
that's
how
it's
currently
used
in
our
legal
system,
where
we've
legalized
less
than
an
ounce
of
marijuana
and
we've
legalized,
just
alcohol.
So
there
isn't
that
distinction,
and
so
that's
the
purpose
for
the
wording
of
regarding
alcohol
and
marijuana
offenses.
N
E
Thank
you
chair,
so
my
question
is:
I
was
just
wondering
in
the
original
bill
it
listed.
E
They
would
be
referred
to
counseling
or
participation
in
an
educational
program
or
support
group
and
then
the
amendments
both
just
say
community
service.
So
I
was
just
wondering
why
the
change
in
that.
So,
if
someone
could
address
that,
please.
N
Kendra
burchie
for
the
record,
through
your
character
to
assemblywoman
hardy,
that's
exactly
what
we're
working
on
in
negotiations
for
the
sanctions
for
some
individuals,
just
having
a
term
of
community
service
would
be
more
appropriate
than
requiring
them
to
go
to
counseling.
For
example,
someone
just
had
a
sip
of
alcohol.
You
don't
necessarily
need
to
interject
them
into
counseling,
because
that
could
actually
be
more
damaging
and
detrimental
to
them
than
just
that
term
of
community
service,
where
they
get
that
that
punishment
that
their
action
had
has
consequences.
N
The
reason
why
we're
not,
including
that
I
want
to
make
sure
that's
not
part
of
this
bill
is
because
we
don't
want
children,
potentially
age,
13
or
14,
to
be
in
these
alcohol
anonymous
meetings
with
those
who
are
40
years
old
who've
been
engaged
in
using
alcohol
marijuana
meth.
You
know
anything
like
that,
so
to
ensure
that
we're
really
targeting
them.
N
That's
why,
in
the
conceptual
amendment
we
had
discussed,
having
them
either
receive
that
evaluation
to
ensure,
then
that
we
know
what
is
appropriate
to
require
for
that
individual
to
do
for
counseling
or
have
them
attend
that
victim
impact
panel,
which
will
have
them
speak
with
victims
of
drunk
driving
incidences
to
really
learn
the
consequences
of
continuing
down
that
path.
F
E
Thank
you
and
I
appreciate
them
trying
to
separate
it
out.
You
know
every
child
different
every
case
is
different,
and
so
I
appreciate
that
explanation.
Thank
you.
K
Good,
my
question
is
for
assembly
woman
monroe
mourinho.
First
of
all,
thank
you
so.
A
K
Thank
you
sharon.
Thank
you
all
for
the
presentation
miss
gwen's
mentioned
at
the
at
the
beginning
of
her
part
of
the
presentation
that
possession
is
the
second
most
referred
crime,
or
I
shouldn't
say,
crime
right
because
it's
juvenile.
So
it's
not
crime,
but
it's
the
second
most
referred
into
the
juvenile
justice
system,
and-
and
my
question
is,
do
you
know
if
that's
if
that's
done
as
a
secondary
offense
right?
Are
they
are
so?
K
What
I'm
saying
is
because
I
might
not
be
using
the
terms
correctly
but
are:
are
they
are
the
juveniles
being
stopped
because
of
the
possession
or
are
they
being
stopped
for
something
else?
And
the
officer
means
that
there
that
there's
possession-
and
so
that's
what
the
referral
is
coming
from?
Does
that
make
sense.
D
Yes,
and
to
assemblyman
chair
yeager
to
assembly,
william
and
cohen,
I
want
to
just
first
state
where
those
statistics
come
from.
They
come
from
the
clark
county,
juvenile
court
system.
Those
are
their
not
2019.
Statistics
battery
is
the
number
one
offense
and
marijuana
possession
is
the
number
two
referred
offense,
so
I
I
hope
that
explains
better
assemblywoman
coin.
K
Oh,
thank
you.
I
I
appreciate
that,
but
but
what
I'm
getting
at
is.
Are
they
so
do
we
know
if,
if
the
officers
are
stopping
them
because
of
the
possession
or
they're
stopping
them
for
something
else
like
there's
a
traffic
infraction
and
the
officer
you
know,
smells
the
marijuana
and
or
sees
glassy
eyes
and
and
has
caused
to
believe
that
there's
possession
or
something
else
is
happening,
and
the
officer
has
reason
to
believe
that
there's
possession,
but
but
the
children
weren't
initially
stopped
because
of
the
possession.
D
To
assemblyman
chair
yeager
to
assemblywoman
cohen
it
does
the
statistics,
don't
state
that
it's
the
statistics
just
stated
that
the
second
offense
was
marijuana
possession.
It
doesn't
say
if
there
was
a
stop
or
how
the
stop
was.
It
just
stated
that
there
was
an
offense,
and
that
was
the
second
offense
and
the
statistics
of
it.
My
apologies.
K
No,
that's
fine!
Thank
you.
Maybe
I
I
I
can
maybe
get
in
touch
with
the
juvenile
public
defender's
office
and
see
if
they've
got
any
any
indication
on
that.
But
thank
you.
A
Thank
you
assemblywoman.
I
think
we
need
assemblywoman
peters
back
here.
She
could
probably
help
us
wade
through
the
data.
Maybe
we
can
get
a
database
that
is
searchable.
So
I'd
encourage
you
to
ask
that
question
my.
I
suspect
that
nobody
probably
really
has
that
data,
but
maybe
we'll
get
lucky,
and
maybe
someone
has
that
out
there
so
and
if
anyone's
on
the
phone
line
to
testify
and
knows
that
information,
please
feel
free
to
provide
it
when
you
testify.
A
Okay,
do
I
have
further
questions
from
committee
members?
If
you
could
raise
your
hand
if
you'd
like
to
ask
a
question,
I
think
I
might
okay,
I
see
assemblywoman
hanson
stand
by
for
just
a
moment.
I
think
I
might
have
everyone
on
one
screen.
Finally,
anyone
other
than
assemblywoman
hanson
with
the
question:
okay
assemblywomanhansen.
I
think
you're
up.
E
Thank
you,
cherry
yaker.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here.
Actually
here
I
go.
It's
not
a
question.
It's
a
comment.
I
just
I
really
have
enjoyed
my
conversations
before
this
bill
came
to
a
hearing
today
with
miss
goings
with
many
individuals.
It
was
very
enlightening
and
I'm
so
glad
to
see
that
we're
I
I
always
say
this
trying
to
find
that
balance
between
mercy
and
justice.
E
I
think
this
bill
really
is
stopped
really
reflecting
that.
So
I
I'm
feeling
encouraged
that
maybe
the
bill's
getting
to
that
point
and
appreciate
the
the
amendments
and
miss
points
appreciate
you
by
taking
some
of
my
suggestions
as
well-
and
you
know,
kids
need
a
chance.
They
make
some
stupid
decisions
and
we
don't
want
them
to
have
this
haunt
them
for
for
a
lot
of
years-
and
I
I
mentioned
before
in
another
hearing
that
we
have
trouble
recruiting
and
getting
people
to
go
into
law
enforcement.
E
You
know
our
young
people
could
have
an
opportunity
to
have
some
great
careers
and
and
85
of
individuals
can't
pass
the
background
check,
and
so
I
see
this
as
a
way
to
help
our
youth.
They
might
make
a
bad
choice,
but
then
they
can
hopefully
get
on
the
right
track.
Learn
what
these
consequences
are
by
being
involved
in
a
panel
of
victims
or
seeing
what
addictions
can
do
and
then
make
it
make
a
commitment
to
stay
the
course
and
instead
of
being
penalized
and
having
their
record
haunt
them.
E
So
thank
you
so
much
to
all
of
you
for
the
work
you're
doing.
I
appreciate
this
bill
greatly.
A
Thank
you
assemblywoman
any
further
questions.
Before
we
go
to
testimony
okay,
I
don't
see
further
questions,
so
I
want
to
thank
all
you
who
presented
and
asked
you
to
stand
by
for
a
moment,
we'll
have
a
chance
for
some
concluding
remarks
after
we
go
to
testimony
at
this
time.
I
want
to
go
to
testimony
in
support
of
assembly
bill
158.
A
G
G
The
goal
of
this
bill,
I
think,
as
you've
heard,
is
to
stop
criminalizing
kids
for
mistakes
that
they
have
made
in
their
past
and
a
large
majority
of
them
will
grow
out
of
and
if
we're
all
being
honest,
probably
a
large
majority
of
us
or
people
we
know
have
grown
out
of
juvenile
attorneys
for
clark,
county
and
washoe
and
around
the
state
are
like
holding
caulfield
and
the
catcher
in
the
rye
they're
trying
to
catch
children
before
they
go
off
the
cliff's
edge
and
maintain
their.
G
Leads
to
less
recidivism,
so
I'm
glad
and
I'm
thankful
for
mo
assemblywoman
danielle
monroe
moreno
for
bringing
this
bill
forward.
Ms
goins
and
the
other
presenters
for
presenting
on
this
bill
and
I
humbly
ask
for
this
committee
to
pass
this
bill
out.
A
Thank
you,
mr
pirro,
and
for
the
record
that
was
mr
pirro
with
the
clark
county
public
defender's
office.
I
don't
think
we
have
anyone
else
on
the
zoom
in
support,
but
if
I'm
wrong
about
that,
just
please
unmute
and
let
me
know
I'm
not
seeing
anyone
so
bps.
Let's
go
to
the
phone
lines
please
and
see.
If
there's
anyone
there
who
would
like
to
give
supportive
testimony.
H
H
H
C
C
The
struggle
to
protect
youth
from
the
harms
associated
with
both
drug
use
and
drug
prohibition
has
led
to
enforcement
policies
that
disproportionately
harm
black
and
brown
youth
and
funnel
children
into
the
school-to-prison
pipeline.
Zero-Tolerance
policies
have
caused
irreparable
harm
to
communities
of
color
and
to
society
at
large.
While
we
have
legalized
cannabis
use
in
this
state,
we
have
yet
to
fully
correct
the
harmful
impact
of
criminalization
statutes
that
are
peppered
throughout
the
nrs.
C
Several
national
studies
show
that
states
with
cannabis
legalization
policies.
They
significantly
decrease
arrest
rates
for
adults,
but
there
is
almost
zero
change
to
the
arrest
rate
for
use,
whereas
states
that
take
the
additional
step
to
enact
decriminalization
policies,
including
policies
with
graduated
sanctions
or
those
that
prevent
detention.
Like
the
policy
before
you
today
that
significantly
reduces
the
arrest
rate
for
both
adults
and
youth,
no
child
under
any
circumstances,
should
be
held
in
detention
on
a
marijuana,
defense
offense.
C
H
B
Hi
is
hoffman
nevada,
attorneys
for
criminal
justice.
We
support
the
bill
for
the
reasons
that
the
many
other
presenters
testimony
and
support
have
given.
I
also
wanted
to
speak
to
something
in
oranges
comments.
We
share
those
goals.
We
frankly
don't
think
this
is
something
that
the
criminal
justice
system
should
be
handling.
C
E
C
That
it
is
urged
that
the
nevada
communities
and
communities
across
the
state
create
laws
and
regulations
that
can
eradicate
the
racism
and
structures
that
create
racial
discrimination
from
poverty
and
economics.
All
the
way,
through
education
here
assembly,
bill
158,
seeks
to
address
at
least
one
aspect
of
the
underlying
institutional
racism
that
has
adversely
affected
the
juvenile
criminal
justice
system.
Specifically,
ab-158
assists
with
combating
the
high
levels
of
criminalization.
C
The
lg
mda
believes
that
abe
158
addresses
and
will
help
mitigate
some
of
these
real
world
consequences
of
the
systemic
and
institutionalized
racism
that
exists
in
the
criminal
justice
system.
And
thus
we
urge
that
the
assembly
judiciary
committee
support
ab158.
Thank
you.
H
O
D-U-F-F-Y
good
morning,
chair
yeager
and
members
of
the
assembly
judiciary,
I'm
happy
to
say
this
is
my
very
first
appearance.
In
this
legislative
session.
I
originally
listed
myself
in
opposition
as
the
bill
originally
came
out.
I
was
notified
shortly
before
the
hearing
that
the
conceptual
amendment
that's
put
forth
by
the
da's
association
is
in
consideration,
and
so
I'm
happily
in
support
of
av-158.
O
I
know
we
still
have
some
work
to
do
on
those
amendments.
Chair
yeager,
thank
you
for
stopping
short
of
laughing
at
the
conceptual
amendments
put
in
by
the
da's
association.
Those
are
actually
just
my
handwritten
scratch
notes
that
were
not
meant
to
be
public,
so
I
appreciate
that
it
is
now
public
but
very
crudely
written.
O
I
would
always-
and
you
will
always
hear
me,
come
out
and
support
and
for
those
who
don't
know
me,
I
run
the
juvenile
division
for
the
clark
county
da's
office,
so
I
handle
all
of
the
juvenile
delinquency
matters.
I
was
one
of
the
founders
of
the
harbor
in
clark
county.
I'm
a
proud
supporter
of
diversionary
programs
that
keep
our
children
out
of
the
juvenile
justice
system,
because
I
know
as
well
as
anybody
else
once
you
get
into
the
system.
It
is
very
difficult
to
get
out.
O
I
have
often
talked
about
behaviors
of
children
that
are
parenting
issues,
mental
health
issues
and
then
our
delinquency
issues
a
lot
of
times.
Most
of
the
time
children
that
are
found
with
alcohol
and
marijuana
are
experimenting,
and
these
are
parenting
issues,
which
is
why
notification
of
parents
wasn't
important
to
me.
O
I
couldn't
answer.
I
know
I
only
have
two
minutes,
so
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
answer
assemblyman
o'neill's
question
about
how
police
notification
would
work
or
peace
officer,
so
peace
officer
notification
could
be
when
the
citation
is
routed
to
the
juvenile
probation
office.
They
are
peace
officers
and
they
could
reach
out
to
parents
oftentimes
our
officers
in
the
field
will
call
parents
and
say
hey.
You
know
I
just
have
your.
I
have
your
son
or
daughter
here
they
are
out
in
the
field
drinking.
O
We
just
wanted
you
to
know
issued
a
citation,
we're
sending
them
home.
There
are
different
ways
and
I
think
it
is
something
that
needs
to
be
worked
out
with
our
law
enforcement
partners
in
clark
county.
We
have
the
harbor.
I
want
to
make
very
clear.
There
is
currently
a
sign
on
the
door
of
juvenile
detention.
It
has
been
for
the
last
year
that
says,
do
not
bring
us
misdemeanors.
O
O
We
don't
take
misdemeanors
outside
of
dui
and
domestic
violence,
and
domestic
violence
is
only
if
it
is
determined
that
they
need
that
12
hour
safety
hold
cooling
off
period
and
dui
would
only
be
for
processing
into
booking
and
then
released
with
a
court
date.
They're
not
necessarily
detained
only
brought
into
booking,
but
there
is
a
sign.
We
don't
take
misdemeanors,
that's
why
we
have
the
harbors.
We
have
children
diverted
out
to
those
programs
so
that
they
can
have
assessments
and
referrals.
O
O
Sometimes
it's
just
you
know
I
got
caught
and
shoot.
I
feel
terrible
about
it.
My
mom
and
dad
are
you
know,
taking
away
my
cell
phone
and
I'm
never
doing
that
again,
so
we
don't
need
those
children
in
the
system,
but
I
also
don't
want
to
miss
an
opportunity
to
have
an
assessment
on
a
child
who
may
have
some
real,
true
mental
health
issues,
as
I
believe
dr
jones
mentioned,
and
we
miss
that
opportunity
before
they
start
going
deeper
and
deeper
and
deeper
into
addiction.
So
we
have
to
be
able
to
weigh
that
and
oftentimes.
O
We
have
parents
who
need
help
figuring
out
where
to
get
those
programs
for
their
children
when
they
find
out
that
their
child's
been
using
marijuana.
They
don't
even
know
where
to
go
so
sometimes
there's
that
supportive
service,
which
our
assessment
centers
provide.
I
know
there
were
plenty
of
other
questions
one's
about
the
referrals
they
are
referrals.
So,
yes,
we
have
the
number
of
referrals
battery
and
possession
of
marijuana.
That
is
not
the
cases
we
file.
That
is
a
very
different
statistic.
O
Referrals
are
just
they
are
given
a
ticket,
a
citation
and
they
they
see
a
probation
officer
or
in
clark
county.
They
go
to
the
harbor
and
sometimes
they're,
not
even
given
a
ticket
to
go
to
the
harbor,
but
it's
not
the
cases
we
file.
Those
are
very
different
in
numbers.
I
want
to
make
sure
that's
very
clear
to
you
all.
O
A
Thank
you
for
your
testimony.
Mustafi.
We
appreciate
it,
I'm
sure
it
won't
be
the
last
time
you
appear
in
front
of
the
committee
a
committee,
it's
a
little
difficult
for
us
to
do
questions
with
phone
callers,
so
I
would
ask
if
you
have
additional
questions
to
just
reach
out
to
ms
duffy.
If
you
need
her
contact
information,
we
can
certainly
get
that
for
you.
So
thank
you
again.
Miss
duffy.
I
gave
you
a
little
bit
of
extra
time
since
there
were
a
couple
questions
that
were
really
directed
to
you
bps.
H
H
C
C
C
We
do
support
this.
Thank
you.
Oh
I
do
have.
I
do
have
a
question
too.
With
this
the
pandemic
and
the
juveniles,
I'm
curious
to
find
out
how
much
the
drug
and
alcohol
will
be
on
the
rise
compared
to
say
last
year
in
2019,
20
and
21.
Is
there
anything
that's
going
to
show
anything
that
these
juveniles
are
actually
drinking
and
doing
more
drugs
than
previous
years,
and
then
say
in
two
more
years
and
when
the
pandemic
has
settled
down
and
compare
it
with
what's
going
on
now?
Thank
you.
A
H
H
B
I
want
to
take
the
opportunity
to
thank
assemblywoman
monroe
moreno,
miss
goins
and
miss
berkshire
for
working
with
us
on
our
concerns
with
this
bill.
As
ms
duffy
previously
indicated,
we
appreciate
your
indulgence
on
our
written
amendment
filed
on
nellis.
It
was
passed
around
this
sort
of
as
a
starting
point
draft,
but
due
to
a
time
crunch,
it
became
our
formal
amendment
and
there
are
parts
of
our
amendment
that
are
not
yet
necessarily
spelled
out
in
the
written
amendment.
B
But
chairman
yeager
did
a
great
job
of
sort
of
summarizing
where
we're
at
on
our
proposed
changes.
Our
first
proposed
change
is
including
some
additional
options
for
judges,
including
counseling,
and
maybe
victim
impact
panels,
as
miss
burchie
indicated,
one
size
does
not
necessarily
set
all
with
respect
to
these
juveniles.
B
The
second
is
tiered
penalties,
and-
and
I
know
it's
doesn't
quite
make
sense-
that
we're
actually
get
rid
of
tier
penalties,
but
with
the
mandatory
stealing
provisions
of
these
low-level
offenses
when
the
case
is
sealed,
da's
and
law
enforcement
don't
know
that
a
person
has
had
a
first
or
second
offense,
because
we're
not
able
to
see
it.
People
are
surprised
to
hear
that
our
officers
can't
see
sealed
cases,
but
that
is
in
fact
the
reality.
B
Because
of
this
the
tiered
penalties,
that's
currently
proposed
would
be
illusory,
and
our
proposed
amendment
would
treat
all
offenses
as
the
same
and
miss
duffy
has
already
addressed
the
juvenile
piece
of
our
proposed
amendment,
and
we
would
ask
that
you
consider
that
as
well
with
that
chairman
yeager
members
of
committee,
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
speak
and
support
and
if
you
have
any
questions,
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
me.
Thank
you.
A
H
C
Thank
you,
chairman
yeager
members
of
the
committee.
My
name
is
madison
celebini
m-a-d-I-s
salibani
s-a-g-l-I-b-e-n-e,
I'm
the
executive
director
for
the
nevada
state,
chapter
of
normal,
the
national
organization
for
the
reform
of
marijuana
laws
normals
in
full
support
of
assembly
bill
158.
I
especially
want
to
thank
aisha,
goins
and
dr
jones
and
the
ceic
team
for
continuing
to
push
this
agenda
and
thank
you,
assemblywoman
monroe
moreno,
for
crafting
this
legislation.
C
I
think
it's
pretty
incredible
how
many
co-sponsors
jumped
on
this
bill
right
away
and
it's
a
really
good
indication
of
how
far
the
spill
is
going
to
go.
C
One
of
our
favorite
pieces
of
this
bill
is
the
fact
that
this
misdemeanor
offense
would
be
sealed
so
that
the
youth
would
not
be
forever
burdened
with
the
collateral
consequences
that
often
come
with.
You
know
these
offenses,
obviously,
along
with
simply
assigning
punishments
that
are
far
more
suiting
to
the
crime,
helping
to
lessen
recidivism
all
that
the
2016
legislation
legalization
initiative
was
referred
to
as
regulate
marijuana
like
alcohol,
so
creating
this
alignment
and
treating
cannabis
crimes
the
same
way.
We
would
treat
those
for
alcohol
just
makes
sense.
C
H
H
C
Good
afternoon
or
I'm
sorry
good
morning,
I'm
sorry
good
morning,
chair
and
members
of
the
assembly
judiciary
committee
for
the
record,
my
name
is
ariel
edwards
a-r-I-e-l-l-e
e-b-w-a-r-d
and
I
am
the
government
affairs
specialist
for
the
city
of
north
las
vegas.
We
would
like
to
state
for
the
record
that
we
are
in
support
of
ab158
we'd,
like
to
thank
assemblywoman,
danielle,
moro,
moreno
and
the
presenters
for
bringing
forward
this
important
and
timely
piece
of
legislation
forward.
C
H
P
Hello,
my
name
is
jigada
chambers,
j-a-g-a-d-a
chamber
c-h-a-m-b-e-r-s,
I'm
calling
it
the
fleet
complete
support
of
assembly
bill
158,
one
caveat
I've
been
listening
to
the
presentations.
Thank
you
chair
as
well
as
all
the
present
presenters.
P
P
359
were
black
youth
and
444
were
led
next
year,
so
nearly
800
of
those
1
000
of
nine,
whatever
they
are
citations,
referrals
that
contact
with
law
enforcement
and
that
judicial
system,
it
is
overly
impacting
on
black
and
brown
youth.
So
to
give
these
youth
a
hope,
I
know
that
in
2015
there
were
only
247
possession
charges
for
black
youth
that
has
ascended
up
nearly
45
trending
the
wrong
way
in
my
eyes
after
it
has
been
legalized
in
this
state.
P
So
I
just
salute
assemblywoman
danielle
moreno
for
bringing
this
legislation
forward
and
I
pray
that
it's
able
to
pass
and
impact
our
youth
in
a
positive
way.
Thank
you.
H
A
H
A
M
Thank
you,
chair
yeager.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
assemblywoman,
yo
moreno
for
bringing
the
bill
forward
and
aisha
lawrence
for
working
on
it
with
all
the
stakeholders
to
get
it.
You
know
looks
like
it's
going
to
get
to
a
place
that
we
can
all
agree
on.
I
initially
thought
that
I
had
signed
on
to
this
bill.
I
believe
I
did.
M
However,
there
can
sometimes
be
some
confusion
between
myself
and
assembly
woman,
brittany
miller
because
of
our
last
names,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I
can
be
added
to
this
bill
as
a
sponsor
throughout
the
amendment
process.
Thank
you
for
the
time.
Thank
you
for
the
bill.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
And
one
second
committee,
all
right
great,
so
having
that
behind
us,
I'm
now
going
to
go
to
back
to
assemblywoman
monroe
moreno,
who
I
believe
has
some
concluding
remarks
on
assembly
bill,
158
and
assemblywoman.
You
can.
Let
us
know
if
you
are
the
only
one
making
concluding
remarks
or
whether
others
might
want
to
give
them
as
well.
Thank
you.
L
L
We
agree
that
children
are
just
that
they
are
children
and
we
have
an
obligation
to
meet
them
where
they
are
to
hold
them
accountable
for
their
actions,
while
giving
them
the
necessary
tools
to
learn
from
their
mistakes
and
assist
them
in
becoming
healthy,
productive,
successful
adults,
and
in
urging
I
urge
your
support
for
assembly
bill
158
and
yes,
mr
miller,
I
would
gladly
add
you
as
a
co-sponsor
and
assemblywoman
hansen
reached
out
to
me,
and
I
would
be
proud
to
have
you
as
an
additional
core
sponsor
on
this
bill.
A
Thank
you
so
much
assemblywoman,
and
I
want
to
thank
our
other
presenters
who
joined
us
on
the
call
today.
I
really
appreciate
your
work
on
this
issue
and
miss
goings.
In
particular.
I
think
you
had
a
chance
to
make
it
around
to,
if
not
all
almost
all
of
the
members
before
the
committee
hearing
as
chair.
A
So
we
certainly
appreciate
it
and
hope
you
have
a
great
rest
of
your
day,
and
at
this
point
I
will
close
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill,
150,
8
and
we'll
now
go
to
the
second
bill
on
the
agenda.
But
our
final
one
for
hearing
this
morning,
I
will
open
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
assembly
bill
157
authorizes
a
person
who
is
a
victim
of
certain
discriminatory
conduct
relating
to
an
incident
involving
a
peace
officer
to
bring
a
civil
action
under
certain
circumstances.
A
L
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
chair,
for
having
me
back.
I
promise
this
one
will
be
much
shorter
for
the
record.
I
am
assemblywoman
danielle
monroe
moreno,
representing
assembly
district
1.,
I'm
here
today
to
present
for
your
consideration
assembly
bill
157,
which
addresses
a
serious
problem
that
has
recently
gained
national
recognition.
L
L
L
The
social
harm
of
such
incidents,
splits
the
fabric
of
our
society
and
contributes
to
the
distrust
of
government
generally
and
law
enforcement.
Specifically,
we
need
to
find
ways
to
rebuild
trust.
I
believe
that
ab157
can
be
a
part
of
that
effort.
I
would
like
to
note
that
similar
bills
have
already
passed
in
new
york,
oregon
and
washington.
L
L
L
L
The
bill
aims
to
address
these
deliberate,
false
and
discriminatory
reports
by
providing
the
victims
of
such
reports
with
a
specific,
effective
and
targeted
remedy.
The
form
of
this
release
relief
is
the
ability
to
bring
a
civil
action
for
damages
against
persons
making
such
reports
section.
One
of
the
bill
begins
on
page
three.
It
defines
the
circumstances
under
which
a
person
can
bring
such
an
action.
L
A
Thank
you
for
your
presentation,
assemblywoman
monroe,
moreno
committee
members.
Do
we
have
questions
on
assembly
bill
157?
You
can
keep
your
hands
up.
I
see
we
have
a
semi-main
wheeler
out
the
gate.
Are
there
any
other
members?
So
we
have
assemblyman
wheeler,
assemblywoman
cohen.
Anybody
else
with
questions
at
the
moment.
A
You'll
have
a
chance
to
ask
them
afterwards.
So
we'll
start
we'll
go
on
that
order,
we'll
start
with
the
selma
salmon
wheeler.
Please
go
ahead.
E
Hey,
thank
you,
mr
chairman
assemblywoman.
I
remember
that
a
few
years
ago
and
I
think
it's
still
going
on
today-
probably
just
not
being
as
reported
as
much.
E
There
was
a
practice
called
swatting
out
there,
where
someone
would
call
you
know
swat
and
say
that
there's
a
barricaded,
suspect
or
whatever
and
thought
it
was
pretty
funny
and
people
were
actually
dying,
but
the
way
I
read
this
would
like
an
incident
like
that.
L
Assemblywoman
danielle
monroe
moreno
for
the
record.
You,
mr
chair,
through
you
to
assemblyman
wheeler
this
bill
assembly
bill
157,
does
not
neglect
the
actions
of
the
swatting
bill.
I
believe
from
the
2017
legislative
session
that
was
passed,
but
this
bill
specifically
speaks
to
false
reports
to
police
based
on
a
person's
race,
sexual
orientation,
gender
religion
and,
in
my
conversations
with
law
enforcement,
they
specifically
ask:
could
this
be
stacked
on
other
charges?
So,
yes,
you
could
be
charged
with
the
swatting
crime
and
ab157.
E
Okay,
so
maybe
I
just
used
a
bad
example:
I'm
sorry
someone's
called
out
just
you
know,
because
a
person
is
walking
down
the
street
and
they
don't
like
that
person.
Would
that
strictly
be
for
the
categories
that
we
have
listed
in
the
bill
here
or
for
literally
everyone.
L
But
what
we've
seen
in
recent
media
coverage
that
it's
the
black
community
that
has
brought
attention,
but
next
week
it
could
be
someone
different
as
we've
gone
through
our
the
covet
pandemic,
we've
heard
stories
of
members
of
our
aapi
community
being
targeted
specifically
because
they're
aapi
and
for
no
other
reason
does
that
answer
your
question.
E
L
A
And
I'll
jump
in
for
just
a
second.
If
I,
if
I
may,
I
want
to
note
for
committee
members
that
this
bill
creates
a
civil
right
of
action.
So
you
know
in
order
to
proceed
under
this
bill
if
a
case
went
all
the
way
to
a
jury
trial.
You
know
that
you'd
have
to
prove
that
it's
more
likely
than
not
that
the
person
making
the
call
did
so
with
the
intent
to,
and
then
we
have
that
list
of
a
b,
c
and
d
that
are
in
section
one.
A
So
a
jury
would
have
to
find
that
that
was
the
reason
for
the
call
was
to
essentially
violate
one
of
those
four
provisions
for
someone
to
be
held
liable
and
of
course
you
would
have
your
normal
all
your
normal
discovery
depositions
evidence
witnesses
and
then
the
jury
would
would
make
that
determination.
So
hopefully
that's
helpful
for
the
members
of
the
committee
that
don't
practice
civil
law
or
criminal
law.
A
You're
welcome
assemblyman,
we'll
go
next
to
assemblywoman
cohen.
K
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
assemblywoman
moreno,
for
bringing
this
bill.
My
my
question
has
to
do
with
in
in
section
two,
I'm
sorry
section,
one
sub
two,
the
damages
that
can
be
collected
where
or
does
reimbursement
for
attorneys
fall
into
that
because,
if
someone's
been
been
the
victim
of
this
and
the
police
come
out
oftentimes
that
person
has
to
get
a
criminal
attorney.
K
L
Assemblywoman
danielle
monroe
moreno
through
chair
yeager
to
a
sibling
woman
cohen.
Yes,
as
as
you
look
in
subsection
two
of
section
one
and
item
c,
says
the
cost
and
reasonable
attorney
fees
incurred
in
bringing
the
action.
So
it
is
the
intention,
my
intention
being
a
former
law
enforcement
officer.
I
don't
see
jail.
L
Our
jails
are
far
overcrowded
and
I
find
that
if
a
person
is
made
to
be
held
accountable
financially
for
their
actions,
they
may
not
do
that
again.
So
it's
a
thousand
dollars
damages
to
the
victim,
the
cost
of
the
attorney's
fees
that
the
victim
would
incur,
but
also
the
cost
to
law
enforcement.
Responding
agencies
for
having
to
respond
to
a
false
call.
L
K
So,
and-
and-
and
thank
you
for
that-
I
I
did
see
that
I
I
just
I'm
talking
about
in
a
broader
sense
of
the
attorneys
they
have
to
hire
if
they
have
to
hire
a
criminal
attorney,
because
charges
are
pressed
against
them.
K
That
often
or
later
often
later,
the
the
charges
are
dropped,
but
the
person
who's
victim
in
this
situation
often
does
have
to
hire
a
criminal
attorney
before
the
charges
are
dropped
and
then
again
beyond
dealing
with
the
lawsuit,
they
have
to
hire
a
civil
attorney
to
deal
with
dealing
with
the
press.
That
type
of
thing,
if,
if
the
situation
does
become,
does
come
out
in
the
press,
I
mean
we
know
this
happens
constantly,
and
it's
not
always
in
the
press.
K
But
but
that's
what
I'm
getting
at
that
beyond
hiring
an
attorney
for
this
case.
Would
this
law
help
them
recoup
those
costs.
L
I
believe
it
will
I'm
not
a
criminal
defense
attorney,
nor
am
I
a
civil
attorney.
However,
I
believe
in
a
civil
court
action,
the
judge
could
award
the
victim
the
reasonable
cost
to
cover
all
attorneys
fees
associated
with
the
incident
both
on
the
criminal
and
the
civil
side.
A
I
can
I
can
jump
in
assemblywoman
cohen.
I
am.
I
am
not
a
cat,
I
am
a
civil
attorney,
so
everyone
knows
I
think
it
would
be
covered
under
that
subsection
one
under
compensatory
damages.
I
would
think
if
you
could
prove
that
you
know
the
call
caused
you
to
have
to
hire
a
criminal
attorney
to
defend
yourself
against
something
that
was,
you
know,
wasn't
legitimate.
I
think
that
provision
would
be
broad
enough
for
a
judge
to
award
those
costs
if
you
had
to
actually
hire
your
own
attorney.
K
A
You
are
welcome
and
I
think
the
way
that
it's
drafted
indicates
that
it
talks
about
compensatory
damages,
including
without
limitation,
emotional
distress.
So
I
we
unfortunately
don't
have
legal
with
us
here
today.
Mr
wilkinson
is
busy
drafting
bills
that
we
are
eagerly
awaiting,
but
I
think
it's
worded
in
such
a
way
that
it
just
wanted
to
specify
that
it
would
certainly
include
emotional
distress
damages,
but
would
also
include
everything
else
that
we
might
be
able
to
prove
under
your
basic
compensatory
damages.
E
Sorry,
I'm
having
trouble
with
my
microphone
today.
Thank
you,
chair
for
the
question,
and
it
actually
is
a
question
this
time.
Folks,
it's
not
just
comments.
Assemblywoman
monroe,
moreno
on
in
section
one
sub.
E
E
L
Assemblywoman
danielle
monroe
moreno
through
you,
chair,
yeager,
to
assemblywoman
hanson
feelings-
I
agree
with
you-
are-
are
hard
to
quantify.
However,
when
you
the
harass
the
humiliation
and
embarrassment,
there
was
a
another
case
of
the
false
9-1-1.
There
were
a
group
of
gentlemen
working
out
in
the
gym
in
their
luxury
apartment
complex.
L
There
were
other
people
in
the
gym
and
one
resident
didn't
recognize
them.
Although
the
one
of
the
gentlemen
had
lived
there
over
a
year
called
the
police,
this
is
a
gentleman,
a
businessman
who
was
embarrassed
to
be
called.
Have
the
police
call
them
in
front
of
his
people
that
he
lived
with?
He
was
subsequently
detained,
which
takes
you
down
to
d
which
impacted
his
income
from
from
that
day
and
had
to
have
a
discussion
with
his
employer
of
why
he
was
detained
talked
to
by
the
police
department.
He
was
harassed.
L
He
felt
it
humiliated
and
embarrassed,
but
it
also
impacted
him.
His
economic
status
would
pay
and
his
reputation
with
his
employer.
So
I
wish
we
had
an
attorney
that
could
put
this
in
legal
jargon.
That's
how
I
see
that's
how
I
interpret
the
bill.
Does
that
help
in
answering
the
question.
E
Giving
the
the
example
yes,
I
can,
I
can
understand
it.
I
I
just
worry
that
the
language
is
such
that
I
just
wondering
I've
served
on
juries
before
and
trying
to
prove
that
a
feeling.
E
A
And
I'll
jump
in
to
just
to
sort
of
address
that
I
think
to
the
extent
a
case
like
this
went
to
trial
in
front
of
a
jury,
there
would
likely
be
a
jury
instruction
that
the
parties
would
agree
on
and
the
judge
would
deliver.
That
would
explain
how
a
jury
is
is
to
decide
that
and
probably
flesh
out
in
a
little
bit
more
detail
what
those
terms
would
mean.
So
I
would
expect
that
to
happen
as
well,
but
of
course
we
don't
have
it
in
statute.
A
Yet
so
if
we
pass
this
bill-
and
one
of
these
goes
to
trial,
we'll
have
to
stay
tuned
and
see
see
how
that
works
out,
but
normally
in
those
situations
when
there's
terms
that
could
be
vague
in
some
sort.
The
parties
and
the
judge
will
usually
give
some
further
instruction
to
the
jury
or
the
jury
could
come
back
and
say
we
don't
understand
what
we're
supposed
to
do.
What
do
these
terms
mean
and
then
they
could
give
supplemental
jury
instructions?
A
I'm
not
seeing
any
additional
questions
at
this
time,
so
assemblywoman.
Thank
you
for
presenting
we'll
ask
you
to
stand
by
for
a
moment.
As
we
potentially
take
testimony
on
the
bill,
I
will
now
open
it
up
for
testimony
in
support.
I
don't
see
anyone
in
the
zoom
in
support
bps.
Could
we
or
actually
I
take
that
back?
We
have
miss
burchie
on
the
zoom.
Thank
you
for
turning
your
camera
on.
If
you'd
like
to
offer
supportive
testimony,
please
go
ahead.
N
Thank
you,
terry
yeager,
kendra
burchie,
with
the
washer
county
public
defender's
office.
For
the
record.
We
appreciate
assemblywoman,
monroe
and
reno
for
bringing
this
bill.
I've
had
clients,
who've
been
subjected
to
this
form
of
harassment,
and
it
has
led
to
significant
issues,
not
just
criminal
but
emotional
and,
more
importantly,
distrust
in
our
legal
system,
because
they
felt
invisible
to
what
should
have
been
protections
of
our
legal
system.
We
support
ab157.
N
A
H
B
H
G
Good
morning,
chairman
yeager
and
members
of
the
committee,
this
is
john
piero
from
the
clark
county
public
defender's
office,
we'd
like
to
thank
assemblywoman
danielle
monroe
moreno
for
bringing
this
bill
forward
and
finding
a
remedy
for
discriminatory
conduct
that
I
think
it's
high
time.
Both
nevada
and
the
united
states
have
large
starts
to
reckon
with.
H
C
H
C
Good
morning
and
thank
you
chair
for
the
record,
this
is
liz
davenport
l-I-z-d-a-v-e-n-p-o-r-t,
the
legislative
extern
with
the
aclu
of
nevada.
We
support
this
bill
and
echo
previous
support.
Testimony.
Law
enforcement
has
unfortunately
been
hijacked
by
prejudice.
People
placing
biased,
9-1-1
calls
that
lead
to
terrible
consequences
for
the
innocent
victims
as
assembly
woman,
monreal
moreno
mentioned.
This
is
prominently
evidenced
this
past
summer
with
amy
cooper.
C
By
enacting
a
civil
penalty
for
calling
police
to
harass
and
carry
out
the
caller's
racial
prejudice,
it
will
give
these
victims
a
way
to
recover
from
the
mental
and
physical
trauma.
These
police
encounters
cause
beyond
embarrassment,
humiliation
and
feelings
of
degradation
and
profiling.
The
encounters
can
result
in
physical
trauma
as
well.
There
is
no
good
reason
to
not
provide
people
with
rights.
Ab157
gives
these
victims
a
way
to
recover
for
the
trauma
caused
by
the
police
encounter
spurred
by
the
prejudice
callers.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
H
H
H
H
C
T-O-N-J-A-B-R-O-W-N
advocates
for
the
inmates
and
the
innocents
we
good
morning,
chair
and
members
of
the
committee.
We
strongly
support
this
bill
and
though
we
echo
all
the
comments
made
in
support
of
this
bill,
I
do
have
some
questions
about
this
bill.
For
example,
I
do
know
of
someone
who
is.
B
C
His
brother
does
not
approve
of
his
lifestyle;
they
both
have
an
elderly
mother.
Now
the
brother
has
used
everything
he
could
possibly
do
to
keep
his
brother
from
ever
seeing
his
mother
and,
in
fact,
having
having
him
arrested
a
guy
going
to
jail,
having
a
restraining
order
filed
against
him
and
then
wind
up
getting
supervised
visits
in
order
to
see
his
mother
and
then
towards
the
end
of
his
mother's
life,
and
she
passed
away
in
the
last
couple
of
months,
so
he
never
got
to
see
her.
He
put
a
stop
to
it.
C
So
would
this
bill
apply
to
family
members
and
also,
if
the
brother,
who
is
gay,
turns
around
and
sues
his
brother,
who
is
the
heir
or
the
executor
of
the
estate?
How
would
that
apply
to
this
bill?
Would
the
estate
be
put
on
hold
pending
civil
litigation,
so
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
bring
that
forward.
Thank
you.
H
C
My
name
is
annette
magnus
a-n-n-e-t-t-e
m-a-g-n-u-s,
and
I
am
the
executive
director
of
battleborn
progress.
We
are
in
strong
support
of
assembly
bill,
157
prejudice
and
racism
exist,
and
we
have
seen
that
on
full
display
this
past
year
and
those
that
use
police
as
a
weapon
to
express
that
racism
should
be
held
accountable
for
their
actions.
C
C
H
Q
H
B
Thank
you.
This
is
jared
luke
government
affairs,
director
for
the
city
of
north
las
vegas,
j-a-r-e-d
l-u-k-e.
I
apologize
for
earlier.
There
was
a
sound
mess
up,
but
we
could
not
let
this
meeting
continue
without
showing
our
support
to
assemblywoman
monroe,
moreno,
the
other
primary
sponsors
and
co-sponsors
of
ab157
as
the
state's
largest
minority
majority
city.
We
could
not
let
this
meeting
continue
without
throwing
our
support
behind
this
important
piece
of
legislation.
A
H
H
R
I'm
not
sure
if
you
called
me
or
not,
my
name
is
marjorie
malik,
m-a-r-j
last
name
m-a-l-l-e-c-k,
and
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speak
about
ab-157.
C
R
Forward
later-
and
it
also
seems
like
this
bill
was
tailored
to
my
situation
and
it
I
think
the
real
purpose
of
this
bill
is
to
silence
potential
accusers
and
not
to
help
falsely
accused
people.
I
feel
this
bill
sets
a
dangerous
sets
up
a
dangerous
situation
for
most
people
and
will
abrogate
the
rights
of
myself
and
other
people.
R
The
most
important
function
of
the
government
is
to
protect
the
population.
This
bill
is
meant
to
prevent
victims
from
calling
the
police
and
explaining
their
situation
unless
they
already
have
substantial
evidence
to
prove
their
claim,
for
example,
in
sexual
assault.
That
does
not
involve
dna
evidence.
There
are
usually
no
witnesses,
no
videotape,
no
evidence,
and
so
these
people
would
not
be
able
to
call
the
police
a
lot
of
rape.
Victims
would
not
be
able
to
call
the
police.
R
They
would
need
to
remain
silent
for
fear
that
their
abuser
could
sue
them
later
if
their
abuser
falls
into
one
of
the
protected
categories
and
and
if
they
have
the
financial
resources
to
hire
an
attorney,
and
even
if
the
abuser
were
a
white
male.
If
he
were
to
claim
to
be
a
member
of
the
lgbtq
community,
he
would
be
able
to
sue
under
this
law.
Bill
cosby
would
never
have
been
brought
to
justice.
R
I
know
that
the
central
park
karen
incident
was
widely
publicized
and
that
many
black
and
brown
people
fear
having
the
police
called
under
a
false
pretense,
but
I
think
the
numbers,
a
false
accusations
of
black
and
brown
people
by
white
people
or
white
women
is
probably
very
small
and
not
significant
all
the
anecdotal
evidence
that
was
given
today.
There
were
no
no
numbers,
no
statistics.
R
Oh,
I'm
sorry
yeah,
I
didn't
know,
I
didn't
okay,
the
numbers
of
women
who
may
need
help
from
the
police
is
very
high
and
the
number
of
these
situations
may
involve
people
that
fall
into
protected
categories,
so
this
law
would
hurt
many
more
people
than
it
would
help,
and
I
also
believe
this
law
is
not
constitutional.
R
R
My
father
was
an
attorney
and
the
other
thing
I
want
to
say
about
bringing
up
situations
like
emmett
till
emmett
till
was
a
horrible
situation,
but
it
happened
in
1955
six
years
before
I
was
born
my
children
say
I'm
you
know
too
old
to
care
about,
and
I
mean
emmett
till
is
you
know
not
something
that
I
think
would
happen
today?
So
that's
what
I
wanted
to
say.
A
H
A
B
Good
morning,
serge
and
members
of
the
assembly
judiciary
committee,
my
name
is
alex
forte
representing
clark,
county
a-l-e-x-o-r-t-I-z,
clark,
county's
mutual
assembly
bill
157
is
written.
J
J
A
A
Thank
you
bps
appreciate
your
work
as
always
and
helping
us
navigate
the
phone
lines,
I'm
going
to
close
neutral
testimony,
assemblywoman
monroe
moreno
before
any
concluding
remarks.
I
just
one
thing
I
I
noticed
and
I
wanted
to
kind
of
flush
out
a
little
bit
on
the
record.
Well,
we
still
had
you
here.
A
If
you
look
at
the
bills,
you
know
the
bill's
just
one
section,
but
if
you
look
at
subsection
three,
it
indicates
that
a
person
could
bring
a
civil
action,
even
if
the
person
had
been
convicted.
I
guess
it
says,
regardless
of
whether
the
person
had
been
convicted
of
a
crime
or
not,
and
so
I'm
just
trying
to
get
your
intent
on
the
record
that
you
know
there
are
obviously
legitimate
reasons
why
people
would
call
law
enforcement.
A
I
think
we
heard
from
some
of
those
in
the
opposition
testimony
of
course,
and
then
there
are,
you
know,
perhaps
not
legitimate
reasons,
and
so
I
just
want
to
get
sort
of
your
thoughts
on
whether
this
bill
is
intended
to
allow
somebody
who
is
ultimately
arrested
and
detained,
perhaps
convicted,
perhaps
not
by
an
officer
who
obviously
might
feel
humiliated
or
embarrassed
because
of
that
situation,
but
whether
that
would
allow
them
to
come
back
and
sue
the
person
who
called
you
know.
If
there
really
was.
L
Assemblywoman
danielle
monroe
moreno
for
the
record.
No,
that
question
was
not
too
loyally.
No,
if
there
was
just
cause
for
the
call
to
be
made
to
law
enforcement,
then
there
would
not
be
a
remedy
for
the
call
that
was
made.
This
bill
is
specifically
for
the
false
calls
that
were
motivated
with
the
intent
to
cause
harm,
while
knowing
that
there
had
not
been
a
crime
committed.
A
Thank
you
for
that
response,
and
certainly
for
anyone
watching.
You
know
if
you
believe
you
have
been
a
victim
of
a
crime,
you
should
certainly
contact
the
authorities.
This
bill
should
not
dissuade
you
from
doing
that,
and
that
was
in
line
with
how
I
read
the
bill
assemblywoman.
So
I
thank
you
for
that.
Clarifying
remark.
Assemblywoman
summer's
armstrong.
I
think
you
had
your
hand
up.
No
okay,
so
there's
a
pass
there.
So
assemblywoman
royal
moreno
give
you
a
chance
to
make
concluding
remarks
on
assemblyville
157.
L
I
believe
that
we
have
a
moral
imperative
to
do
whatever
we
can
as
policy
makers
to
stop
this
type
of
behavior
at
a
minimum.
It
wastes
the
time
and
resources
of
law
enforcement
at
its
worst.
It's
an
attempt
to
weaponize
our
law
enforcement
personnel
against
the
communities
that
they
serve,
and
I
urge
your
support
of
assembly
bill
157.
A
A
That
brings
us
to
our
final
item
on
the
agenda,
and
that
is
public
comment.
By
way
of
reminder,
we'll
allow
up
to
30
minutes
of
public
comment
at
the
end
of
each
meeting.
Callers
will
have
two
minutes
to
provide
public
comment.
Bps.
Could
we
go
to
the
phone
to
see
if
there's
anybody
there
who
would
like
to
give
public
comment
this
morning.
H
H
H
Q
A
Q
He
came
home
with
his
family
on
leave
around
the
fourth
of
july,
which
was
the
one
year
anniversary
of
his
brother-in-law's
murder.
That
police
still
haven't
solved.
They
are
trying
to
say
it
was
gang-related
because
of
the
area
he
lived
in
and
the
people
he
hung
out
with
my
son
and
his
family
were
pulled
over
a
couple
times.
In
the
first
week.
Q
They
were
home
and
harassed
by
rpd
because
they
were
in
an
area
and
the
cops
knew
where
they
who
they
were
then,
with
the
trayvon
martin
case
and
the
fireworks
my
son
kept
getting
angrier
and
angrier.
I
have
never
seen
him
so
angry
in
his
life.
I
didn't
know
what
ptsd
was
until
he
came
home
and
I
looked
it
up
only
because
I
asked
his
wife
what
was
going
on
and
she
told
me
about
it,
but
she
said
she
didn't
know
what
it
was
either
here.
Q
She
is
living
with
him
and
seeing
the
changes
in
him
and
she
did
not
know
what
it
was.
He
was
in
contact
with
his
doctor
for
the
first
week
here
and
things
weren't
as
bad
as
the
last
few
days
of
his
life.
Then
his
phone
broke,
and
he
couldn't
call
his
doctor
anymore
prior
to
that
he
was
calling
him
four
to
five
times
a
day
on
the
morning
he
was
killed.
He
had
been
up
for
72
hours
and
was
getting
paranoid.
He
asked
me
for
a
gun.
Q
Q
Q
I
showed
up
at
the
scene
and
I
was
told
that
kenny
had
asked
for
a
cigarette.
As
I
tried
to
hand
the
cigarette
to
the
police
officer
and
less
than
30
seconds
later,
I
heard
gunshots
they
killed
kenny.
He
was
shot
multiple
times.
I
believe
it
was
over
15
times
the
officer
shane
minnick
from
sparks
pd
went
on
to
kill
another
community
member
less
than
three
years
later.
Please
do
not
support
bills
that
protect
that
police.
Please
support
bills
that
promote
transparency
and
accountability.
Thank
you.
A
R
M-A-R-J-O-R-I-E-M-A-L-L-E-C-K
I
what?
What
is
the
situation
where
you
don't
have
if
someone
calls
9-1-1
because
they're
in
immediate
danger,
but
they
don't
have
proof
of
that
danger.
I
mean
that's
the
situation
where
this
bill
will
cause
harm
to
the
victim
and
not
to
the
and
the
you
know,
would
cause
harm
to
the
person
making
the
call
which
would
actually
be
the
victim,
and
I
I
think
I
think
statistics
ought
to
be
shown.
R
You
know
to
prove
that
this
is
you
know
an
issue,
because
I
think,
if
you
look
at
the
statistics.
A
R
A
Thank
you
bps
as
always
appreciate
your
hard
work
in
making
these
meetings
a
reality
for
so
many
people,
regardless
of
whether
they
may
be
wherever
they
may
be
in
the
state,
and
I
think
we
have
folks
that
sometimes
call
in
from
out
of
state.
So
thank
you
for
the
work
that
you
are
doing.
I'm
going
to
close
public
comment
at
this
time
before
we
talk
about
the
rest
of
the
week.
Anything
else
from
committee
members
this
morning.
A
Well,
good
news
is
we
made
it
through
wednesday,
so
we're
more
than
halfway
there
towards
the
end
of
the
week.
Thank
you
committee
members,
and
it
was
a
pretty
long
meeting
getting
through
three
bills
this
morning.
I
appreciate
your
attention,
your
questions
in
terms
of
where
we
go
from
here
tomorrow.
We
just
have
one
bill
on
the
agenda,
but
it
is
a
bill
that
deals
with
the
eviction
process,
so
I
anticipate
that
bill's
going
to
take
us
a
bit
of
time
to
get
through
so
we'll
be
starting
at
eight
o'clock
and
then
friday.