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A
Here
we
do
have
a
quorum
for
the
time
being,
let's
mark
assemblywoman
summers,
armstrong
absent
excuse.
I
expect
her
to
be
here
shortly.
Let's
mark
assemblywoman
krasner
absent
for
the
time
being.
I
do
know
we
have
members
who
are
going
to
be
presenting
bills
in
other
committees
this
morning.
A
It
is
getting
to
be
that
time
of
the
session,
but
I
think
those
committees
don't
start
until
nine
o'clock,
so
hopefully
folks
be
able
to
jump
on
here
soon
good
morning
again
to
committee
members
good
morning
to
those
in
the
public
who
might
be
watching
on
our
youtube
channel,
welcome
to
day
30
of
the
81st
session
of
the
nevada
legislature
and
if
you're
keeping
tally
at
home.
That
means
we
are
25
of
the
way
through
this
session
already,
which
is
quite
stunning.
A
To
be
honest,
it
seems
like
it's
gone
very
quickly
before
we
get
started
on
our
agenda
today.
Just
a
few
housekeeping
rules,
members
on
the
zoom
and
guests
who
may
be
on
the
zoom
with
us,
please
make
sure
to
mute
when
you're,
not
speaking,
that
will
help
with
the
audio
feedback
for
presenters.
If
you
could
remember
to
state
your
name
every
time
before
you
speak
and
especially
if
somebody
asks
you
a
question,
if
you
could
remember
to
state
your
name
before
you
answer,
that
will
be
helpful.
A
We
do
expect
courtesy
and
respect
in
our
interactions
with
one
another.
We
don't
always
agree
on
policy.
That
is
perfectly
okay,
but
we
need
to
make
sure
being
respectful
of
one
another
of
the
legislative
institution
and,
most
importantly,
of
our
staff
and
broadcast
services.
Who
is
helping
to
make
these
meetings
happen
every
morning
and
then
finally,
many
members
will
be
using
multiple
devices
to
participate
in
the
zoom
and
to
access,
exhibits
and
the
likes.
So
please
don't
see
it
as
a
sign
of
disrespect
or
inattention.
A
If
members
are
looking
away
during
the
committee
hearing
we're
just
trying
to
navigate
this
new
zoom
world
so
with
that
behind
us,
let's
go
to
our
agenda
and
I'm
still
trying
to
decide
how
we're
going
to
take
these
bills.
So
let
me
see
here-
and
let
me
ask
assemblywoman
cohen:
do
we
have
your
other
presenter
on
or
not.
G
No
chair
bps
is
still
working
on
the
technical
difficulties
with
him,
so
if
you'd
like
to
move
forward
with
the
other
bill,
that
would
be
fine
with
me.
Thank
you.
A
Great,
thank
you
assemblywoman
cohen,
so
then,
what
we're
going
to
do?
We
have
the
luxury
of
having
two
bills
on
the
agenda
today,
so
we
can
pivot
and
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
hear
the
bills
in
reverse
order
that
they
appear
on
the
agenda.
So
at
this
time
I
will
open
up
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
160.
A
A
I
will
let
members
know
in
case
you
didn't
have
a
chance
to
see
that
there
is
an
amendment
up
on
nellis
that
has
been
provided
by
the
sponsor
of
the
bill.
I
also
believe
there's
a
proposed
amendment
provided
by
somebody
in
opposition
to
the
bill,
so
we'll
have
an
opportunity
to
review
both
of
those,
and
I
want
to
welcome
to
back
to
the
assembly
judiciary
committee
assemblywoman
torres
who
served
on
this
committee
last
session.
A
Assemblywoman
it's
nice
to
have
you
back
in
the
committee
and
I
believe,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
that
vice
chair
win
might
be
assisting
in
the
presentation
of
the
bill.
So
we'll
give
a
chance
to
go
through
assembly
bill
160
the
proposed
amendment
and
then
I'm
sure
we'll
have
questions.
So
please
proceed
when
you're
ready.
H
Thank
you,
chair
and
good
morning
to
the
assembly
judiciary,
committee.
Okay,
my
my
screen
froze.
Am
I
still
good
just
a
thumbs
up?
Okay,
perfect!
Thank
you.
It
is
always
a
pleasure
to
be
back
in
the
judiciary
committee
this
fine
morning,
I'm
thinking
yanker
and
committee
members.
I
am
celaena
torres
representing
assembly
district
3
for
the
record
today,
I'm
here
to
present
assembly
bill
160,
which,
which
revises
provisions
governing
credit
awarded
to
reduce
a
sentence
of
impr
of
imprisonment.
H
So,
first
I'm
going
to
start
with
some
background
information.
Then
I'm
going
to
do
a
quick
breakdown
of
the
bill.
During
the
second
week
of
session,
a
former
student
called
me
as
he
prepared
for
his
sentencing
hearing
the
next
day
for
the
last
year,
his
sentencing
date
had
been
regularly
pushed
back
because
of
kovitz
19
and
safety
measures
and
through
it
all
he's
been
on
residential
confinement.
He
had
been
in
residential
confinement
for
confinement
for
nearly
13
months.
H
He
also
mentioned
that
he
would
not
be
getting
any
credit
for
the
time
he
served
on
residential
confinement.
It
was
a
very
challenging
conversation
to
say
the
least.
He
did
exactly
what
we
want
people
to
do.
He
moved
to
a
different
side
of
town
where
the
violence
had
started,
he
started
working
and
he
recognized
it
that
he
needed
to
get
on
the
right
path
and
he
started
making
those
life
changes.
That
is
exactly
what
we
want
of
individuals
that
are
serving
time
in
any
location.
H
Residential
confinement
is
also
known
as
house
arrest.
It
is
punishment,
it
is
punishment
that
defendants
undergo
while
they
are
awaiting
trial,
their
movements
are
restricted
and
electronically
monitored.
The
only
reason
they
can
leave
their
house
is
sometimes
to
go
to
work,
to
go
to
court
to
meet
with
their
lawyer
or
to
go
to
a
doctor's
appointment.
H
If
a
person
is
in
a
county,
jail
or
prison
awaiting
trial,
the
court
can
allow
credit
for
the
time
spent
to
reduce
the
person's
sentence.
However,
if
a
person
is
subject
to
house
arrest,
while
awaiting
trial
credit
is
generally
never
given,
people
are
given
credit
for
time
served
on
house
arrest
after
their
conviction,
but
not
before
their
conviction.
This
bill
is
important,
because
house
arrest
is
a
punishment.
H
H
Next,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
go
through
the
sections
of
the
bill
and
just
a
reminder
for
the
committee
members.
I
will
be
working
off
of
the
mock-up
that
you
should
all
have
a
copy
of
and
is
posted
on
nellis
as
well.
Today
I
did
submit
an
amendment
on
this
bill
and
it
is
based
off
of
my
conversations
with
different
parties
and
stakeholders
in
this
belt.
H
Section
one
would
require,
rather
than
authorized
credit
for
time
spent
in
confinement
before
conviction,
and
it
also
gives
the
court
the
discretion
to
allow
credit
for
time
spent
in
residential
confinement
before
conviction
to
reduce
a
sentence.
So
it's
kind
of
a
clean
up
language.
If
anything,
I
understand
that
there
is
a
another
proposed
amendment
and
I've
been
working
with
our
stakeholders
so
that
we
can
kind
of
find
some
middle
ground.
H
The
conversation
right
now
has
been
whether
or
not
misdemeanor
should
be
off
of
the
table
completely
or
whether
there
should
be
some
type
of
partial
credit
for
misdemeanors,
the
reason
being,
of
course,
that
you
know
with
a
with
a
misdemeanor,
it
must
be
recognized
that
their
sentencing
time
might
be
less,
and
so
I've
been
working
with
the
stakeholders,
and
I
really
do
appreciate
the
time
that
they
have
spent
meeting
with
me
so
that
we
can
kind
of
find
some
middle
ground.
C
Just
briefly,
one
of
the
cleanup
language
and
the
amendment
that
was
submitted
by
assemblywoman
taurus,
just
kind
of
cleans
up
some
language.
I
think
everyone
generally
understood
that
you
should
get
credit
if
you
are
in
jail.
So
if
you
are
awaiting
your
trial
or
you
are
awaiting
your
sentencing
and
you
are
physically
in
a
jail,
you
should
get
credit
for
time
for
that
jail
time
and,
unfortunately,
our
language
in
our
statute
said.
May
there
has
been
case
law,
and
I
know
that
this
is
getting
very
technical
that
has
already
cleaned
that
up.
C
C
But
it
also
authorizes
judges
to
you
know,
reward
with
credit
with
the
punishment
and
the
good.
You
know,
accountability
that
people
have
done
to
allow
them
credit,
and
I
will
you
know,
confirm
what
assemblywoman
taurus
said
about
misdemeanors.
It
is
unique
because,
especially
now
it's
like
more
relevant
during
a
pandemic.
C
If
someone
was
to
be
placed
on
house
arrest,
the
maximum
penalty
for
a
misdemeanor
is
six
months
in
custody,
and
if
you
served
six
months
waiting
for
your
trial
on
house
arrest,
your
sentence
would
be
accomplished
just
by
the
house
arrest
nature
of
house
arrest.
So
we
are
continuing
to
have
like
ongoing
conversations
with
them.
This
is
a
bill
that
was
brought
during
the
2019
session
and
I
believe
it
passed
out
of
this
committee
unanimously
with
that
amendment
with
the
misdemeanors.
C
So
we
did
have
this
conversation
pretty
extensively
last
session
for
the
returning
members
and
for
the
new
members.
If
you
would
like
to
go
back
and
see
some
of
that
testimony
from
2019,
I
believe
it's
available
on
nellis
as
well,
and
with
that
assemblywoman
taurus.
Do
you
have
any
further
comments
on
it?.
H
A
Great
thank
you
to
the
both
of
you
for
presenting
and
thank
you
for
highlighting
the
bill
from
last
session.
As
indicated
that
bill
did
pass
out
of
the
assembly
judiciary
committee,
it
did
get
a
vote
on
the
assembly
floor
and
I
believe
it
was
unanimously
supported
on
the
assembly
floor.
It
did
not,
however,
make
it
out
of
the
senate
judiciary
committee.
I
believe
so
that
was
the
fate
of
the
bill
last
session
and
we're
back
again
this
session
with
the
same
concept.
A
So
with
that
behind
us,
the
presentation
are
there,
questions
that
any
members
have
actually
before
I
get
to
questions.
Let
me
know
for
the
record
that
assemblywoman
summers
armstrong
has
joined
us
so,
mr
secretary,
if
you
could
note
that
in
the
minutes
that
she
is
present,
I
don't
think
assemblywoman
krasner
is
here
yet.
So
please
continue
to
remark
her
as
absent.
A
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I'm
just
wondering
I
like
the
concept
of
the
bill,
but
I'm
just
wondering,
as
we
get
into
more
discussions
on
cashless
bail,
which
I'm
sure
are
going
to
come
in
this
session.
How
is
this
going
to
affect
that?
As
far
as
you
know,
someone
gets
arrested
for
something
and
they're
detained
until
trial.
They
can't
make
their
bail
et
cetera,
so
they're
put
on
house
house
arrest
until
trial.
F
If
it's
a
cashless
bail
thing,
would
that
actually
reduce
the
time
with
that,
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
how
it
all
fits
together.
Maybe
I'm
not
even
asking
the
question
right.
C
That's
okay,
I
think
assembling
one
taurus.
I
think
I
can
answer
this
so
the
way
that
it
currently
works
in
most
of
our
jurisdictions
is:
let's
say
you
know
a
crime
occurs.
C
It's
investigated,
a
suspect
is
arrested
for
that
particular
crime
and
they
are
brought
to
the
detention
center
like
in
clark
county,
for
example,
you
you
see
a
hearing
master
or
you
see
a
justice
court
judge
almost
immediately,
usually
within
48
hours,
to
address
your
custody
status
and
in
fact
recently
most
of
these
courts
have
like
lots
of
options
now
for
pre-trial
release.
It's
similar
to
you
know,
there's
you
know
cash
bail
as
an
option.
House
arrest
is
an
option.
You
know,
and
even
house
arrest
pros.
C
The
programs
are
pretty
expensive,
like
if
you're
on
house
arrest.
Not
only
are
you
confined
to
your
home
unless
you
are
having
a
like
a
legitimate
job,
you
can't
have
like
you
know,
a
job
that
you
are
doing
under
the
table
or
anything
like
that,
because
you
have
to
provide
like
your
work
hours.
You
have
to
provide
like
all
that
kind
of
verification.
C
They
also
have
random
drug
and
alcohol
testing.
Sometimes
there
are
conditions
of
release
that
include
like
no
alcohol.
No,
you
know
random
drug
and
alcohol
testing
or
other
types
of
like
treatment,
so
they're
pretty
extensive,
and
so
that
is
what
happens
so
a
lot
of
times.
People
may
be
released
with
no
bail,
no
cash
bail,
but
they
do
have
these
other
conditions
like
house
arrest.
That
makes
sense.
Does
that
answer
some
of
your
questions
with
some
women
wheeler.
A
F
There
we
go
good
morning.
Actually
more
of
a
comment
was
here
for
the
last
session
when
we
went
through
this
bill,
and
I
think
it's
interesting
if
we're
revisiting
this
bill
now,
it
might
be
in
your
favor
that
we're
doing
at
post
pandemic
well
not
really
post
pandemic,
but
in
a
pandemic,
because
I
think
all
of
us
have
understand
now
a
little
bit
about
house
arrest
having
to
have
our
activities
curtailed
over
the
last
11
months
or
so
so
anyway.
F
H
Yeah
this
legislation
is
not
going
to
apply
to
my
former
student
and
that
that's
this
is
pretty
common
for
it
to
take
place
after
the
fact.
I
think
that
the
red,
if
we
were
to
put
it
retroactive,
it
would
probably
come
with
a
physical
note,
as
those
individuals
would
have
to
be
re-sentenced,
and
so
that
would
make
it
very
costly
for
the
state
of
nevada.
Obviously,
I
believe
that
you
know
this
is
going
to
be
excellent
for
individuals
that
have
not
yet
been
sentenced
by
october
1st
of
this
year.
H
G
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
for
bringing
the
bill
back,
assemblywoman
torres,
so
I
I
don't
think
you
covered
this,
but
I
was
dealing
with
getting
something
settled
for
my
hearing.
So
I'm
sorry
if
you
did
but
on
the
may,
with
the
court
having
discretion.
G
Is
the
court
gonna
have
pre-trial
like
parole,
probation,
free
trial
reports
or
anything
like
that
that
they
can
go
off
of
or
what's
the
court
going
to
have
as
part
of
their
make
their
determination.
C
I
can
go
ahead
and
answer
that
assemblywoman
taurus,
if
that's
okay,
currently
what
happens
with
places
that
utilize
and
have
house
arrest
programs
is.
If
you
are
successful,
you
get
a
report
and
a
report
goes
to
typically
the
court,
so
the
judge
and
also
goes
to
potentially
the
defense
counsel,
as
well
as
the
prosecutor
to
let
you
know
if
you've
had
any
violations
of
your
house
arrest.
If
you
do
have
violations
of
your
house
arrest.
C
For
example,
this
happens,
someone
tests,
positive
for
drugs
or
alcohol
and
all
of
a
sudden,
they
are
brought
back
in
their
a
report,
will
be
produced
and
will
say
you
know
you
know.
C
Defendant
x
was
on
pre-trial
house
arrest
incarceration,
they
tested
positive,
for
you,
know
alcohol
or
marijuana
or
illegal
drugs
or
whatever
it
is
on
this
date,
and
they
will
be
brought
back
into
custody,
so
that's
typically
how
it
works,
and
so
you're
able
to
know
how
long
someone
is
on
house
arrest
in
that
report,
and
so
I
imagine
that
it
would
be
very
seamless
for
the
court
to
be
provided
with
information
on
pre-trial
like
residential
confinement.
A
F
Actually,
it
just
takes
a
while
for
my
brain
to
finally
kick
in
with
the
questioning
side
of
things.
Do
we
have
any
stats
to
show
some
of
the
you
know?
We
sometimes
worry
about
recidivism
when
people
have
been
actually
physically
incarcerated,
but
do
we
have
any
statistics
to
show
us
or
even
updated
ones
how
this
works
in
helping
people
stay
with
their
jobs,
provide
for
their
families?
C
I
will
tell
you,
I
don't
know
off
hand,
but
I
do
recall
last
session
when
assemblyman
fumo
was
presenting
the
bill.
I
remember
there
being
some
testimony
in
that
area.
I
don't
know
if
assemblywoman
taurus
has
anything,
but
I'm
sure
that
there
is
plenty
of
information
out
there
that
can
talk
about
it.
I
think
your
instincts
are
right
on.
C
If
someone
is
on
residential
confinement,
I
think
they
have
that
punitive
aspect
where
they
have
a
physical
reminder
to
stay
out
of
trouble
and
to
stay
at
home
and
if
they
are
fortunate
enough
to
like
be
able
to
maintain
their
job,
you
know,
obviously
I
think
that's
what
we
want
to
encourage
is
like
that.
You
know
good
behavior,.
H
Yeah,
I
don't
recall
quite
I'm,
trying
to
skim
through
the
minutes
from
the
last
session
pretty
quickly,
but
I
can
definitely
get
back
to
you
with
an
answer.
I'm
not
sure
if
our
policy
analyst
has
any
information
on
that
or
our
testimony
might
actually
help
answer
that
as
well.
F
And
that's
fine,
we
we
can
continue
at
the
meeting,
but
maybe
if
it's
something
we
could
get
offline
later,
that
that
would
be
maybe
we
could
get
it
from
former
assemblyman
fomo
or
maybe
there's
some
updated
information
that
we
might
hear
about
in
testimony.
So
thank
you
so
much.
F
F
Thank
you
chair
just
quickly.
I
may
have
missed
it.
Can
you
explain
to
me
what's
the
conflict
between
your
amendment
and
what
henderson
is
proposing
was
please.
H
Yes,
definitely
assemblyman.
Thank
you
for
the
question.
So
the
difference
of
the
amendment
is
that
the
henderson
amendment
changes
so
that
misdemeanor
would
not
get
credit
for
time
served
on
house
arrest
at
this
time.
You
know
we're
still
working
with
henderson
and
some
of
our
different
key
stakeholders
and
to
continue
to
have
a
conversation
about
whether
or
not
this
should
be
applicable
to
misdemeanors
or
if
it
should
also
be
applicable
to
like
a
partial
credit,
or
something
like
that.
H
H
Henderson
is
the
only
municipality
that
brought
forth
the
amendment
to
me,
but
we
had
a
conversation
with
several
of
our
stakeholders
yesterday
and
the
conversation
really
just
to
kind
of
reiterate.
Some
of
the
discussion
from
earlier
is
that
you
know
a
misdemeanor
might
have
a
sentence
of
120
days,
and
so,
if
you
have
a
sentence
of
120
days,
that
would
be
your
entire
sentence
so
that
you
would
not.
That
would
essentially
your
credit.
H
Your
time
served
would
have
been
the
house
arrest
and
we
understand
that
there
is
a
difference
between
confinement
or
be
incarceration
and
residential
confinement,
and
so
the
the
dialogue
continues
to
be
whether
or
not
there
should
be
perhaps
or
misdemeanor
some
type
of
partial
credit
for
the
time
served,
and
so
we're
working
continuing
to
work
with
henderson,
among
other
municipalities,
to
continue
this
dialogue.
C
And
just
to
follow
up
with
that
assemblyman
o'neil,
for
example,
with
a
misdemeanor.
The
maximum
penalty
is
180
days
in
custody
and
if
you
were
to
be
set
for
trial
twice
and
have
two
continuances,
that
would
put
you
at
180
days,
and
so
we
want
to
encourage
people
to
get
like
treatment.
We
want
to
encourage
people
to
do
counseling
if
that's
necessary.
We
want
to
encourage,
like
other
aspects
of
like
rehabilitation
and
retraining
and
counseling
and
therapy
and
under
a
misdemeanor
model.
C
A
Okay,
before
we
go
to
testimony,
I
want
to
tell
you
that
I
again
was
was
fact
checked.
This
happens
a
lot
so
assembly
bill
109
from
the
2019
session,
which
was
the
bill
last
session.
Technically,
it
did
not
pass
the
assembly
unanimously.
Assemblyman
hamrick
was
absent
excused,
so
it
was
41
votes
in
favor,
one
absent
excuse
so
technically
that
is
not
unanimous,
although
it
is
unanimous
of
those
present
and
voting.
So
just
so.
Our
minutes
are
clear.
F
A
Thank
you,
assemblyman,
I'm
sure
he
would
have
as
well
so
okay,
so
I
don't
see
any
further
questions
at
presenters.
Assemblywoman
torres
viceroy.
Thank
you
for
presenting
I'll.
Have
you
sit
tight
for
a
minute
while
we
take
some
testimony
and
then
I'll
give
you
a
chance
to
do
concluding
remarks
I'll
now,
open
it
up
for
testimony
in
support
of
assembly
bill
160.,
I
don't
believe
we
have
anyone
on
the
zoom
with
us
in
support
bps.
E
I
I
Residential
confinement
is
a
liberty
restriction.
One
of
the
other
examples
I
can
point
to
is
that
there
are
different
levels
of
custody
inside
a
jail.
You
have
maximum
security,
you
have
close
security,
you
have
medium
security.
You
have
lower
security
inmates
each
and
every
one
of
those
folks
receives
credit
for
their
confinement.
I
E
J
My
name
is
ashley
a-s-h-l-e-y
white
w-h-I-t-e,
hello.
My
name
is
ashley.
I'm
here
today
reading
a
letter
from
a
person
who
is
personally
impacted
by
ab-160
and
home
confinement.
She
asked
me
to
read
it
on
her
behalf.
It's
very
hard
to
understand
that
being
on
home
confinement
is
not
much
different
than
actually
being
incarcerated,
but
from
personal
experience,
it's
not
when
you
are
in
jail.
J
You'll,
take
any
way
out,
desperate,
just
to
just
be
out
but
being
on
house
rest
is
very
difficult
for
anyone
that
includes
your
family,
I'm
currently
on
home
confinement,
I'm
living
with
my
elderly
parents.
They
are
on
a
fixed
income.
They
pay
for
my
personal
expenses.
They
buy
my
food.
They
have
to
run
all
my
errands
during
this
pandemic.
J
This
is
especially
difficult.
They
have
their
own
rent
and
bills
to
pay,
I'm
very
lucky
to
have
them
lots
of
people.
Don't
have
that
luxury.
I
don't
get
to
go
to
any
religious
services.
I've
missed
birthdays,
I've
missed
events
and
everything
I
get
to
watch
everyone
leave
and
hear
my
kids
and
family
wish.
I
was
there
just
like
they
did
when
I
was
in
jail.
It's
very
disheartening
to
me
to
know
that
this
time
is
a
waste
for
me
when
it
comes
to
my
time.
J
This
is
a
waste
all
this
time,
I'm
missing
with
my
family
and
I
still
can
miss
even
more
when
it
comes
to
the
resolution
of
my
pending
charges.
Charges
that
I
haven't
been
found
guilty
of
charges
that
I
may
never
do
time
on.
I
didn't
kill
someone.
I
don't
even
need
jail
or
prison.
I
need
treatment
for
my
struggle
with
drugs.
I
am
in
support
of
unamended
ab160,
because
time
serve
should
be
time
served
and
we
should
get
credit
regardless
of
where
we
serve
it.
This
isn't
freedom
and
the
loss
of
it
is
my
punishment.
J
If
or
when
I
am
convicted
in
a
country
that
says
we
are
innocent
until
proven
guilty.
It
definitely
doesn't
seem
that
way.
Thank
you
for
bringing
this
bill.
In
addition,
I
would
like
to
add
that
I
am
also
in
support
of
unamended,
ab-160
and
assembly
member
walks.
Thank
you
for
being
part
of
bringing
this
bill.
I
live
in
your
district
and
look
forward
to
meeting
with
you
during
the
session.
A
A
A
A
America,
do
you,
I
have
one
in
opposition
on
the
zoom.
Do
you
want
me
to
go
ahead
and
take
that
testimony
and
then
come
back
to
support.
K
A
Great,
thank
you.
So
at
this
time,
I'm
going
to
suspend
our
support.
Testimony
we'll
come
back
to
that
in
a
moment
when
we
get
the
technical
issues
figured
out
and
at
this
time
I'm
going
to
open
it
up
for
opposition
testimony.
We
do
have
mr
cathcart
from
the
city
of
henderson
with
us
on
the
zoom,
so
he
is
not
subject
to
the
ongoing
technical
difficulties
at
the
moment.
So
we'll
give
him
a
chance
to
provide
his
opposition.
Testimony.
Welcome
mr
cathcart
and
please
go
ahead.
L
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record,
mike
cathcart
c-a-t-h
c-a-r-p.
I
really
appreciate
the
the
ability
to
be
on
the
zoom
today.
I
appreciate
that
to
be
able
to
present
our
amendment.
I
first
want
to
thank
assemblywoman
torres
and
vice
chairwin
for
the
very
positive
meeting
we
had
yesterday
on
this
bill.
We
did
have
stakeholders
together.
L
I
do
want
to
address
assemblyman
o'neill's
question,
I'm
happy
to
reach
out
to
some
of
the
other
municipalities
and
and
find
out
where
they're
at
on
this
bill.
So
it
is
not
just
a
henderson
amendment
I'll
reach
out
to
las
vegas
north
las
vegas
city
of
reno
and
see
where
they're
at.
L
As
far
as
I'm
supporting
our
amendment,
just
from
the
the
the
mechanics
of
our
amendment,
it
basically
adds
a
subsection
two
to
section
one
that
would
provide
an
exception
for
misdemeanors,
and
I
really
think
the
merits
of
why
the
amendment
was
needed
have
already
been
discussed.
L
G
Thank
you,
chair,
and,
and
thank
you
for
your
presentation,
mr
cathcart.
Can
you
please
tell
us,
when
henderson
decided,
to
propose
the
amen,
the
amendment
or
and
oppose
the
the
bill?
What
was
that
based
on
as
far
as
input
like,
for
instance,
is
this
just
based
on
this,
the
city
attorney's
ideas
or
was
there
communication
with
the
union
court
judges
in
henderson
and
the
justice
court
judges
in
henderson,
like
who's
who's,
part
of
that
decision-making
were,
I
guess
whose
input
was
sought.
L
Thank
you,
assemblywoman
for
the
record,
mike
cathcart
from
city
of
henderson.
The
input
on
the
the
amendment
that
we're
proposing
today
came
from
our
city,
attorney's
office.
It
is
the
exact
same
amendment
that
we
proposed
last
session
that
comes
from
the
the
chief
of
our
criminal
division,
but
I
I
and
I
believe
that
our
judges
are
supportive,
but
I'll
have
to
check
on
that.
For
you
and
I
I
can
get
you
there.
J
A
Thank
you.
Let's
go
to
assemblyman
wheeler
for
another
question.
F
Hey
thank
you,
mr
kalkart.
I'm
kind
of
two
minds
on
this
thing
here
I
mean
confinement's
confinement.
If
we've
all
seen
it
during
the
pandemic,
as
assemblywoman
hanson
said,
but
on
a
misdemeanor
charge.
B
F
Understand
what
you're
saying
that
you
know
that
maybe
the
six
months
is
already
done
or
it
could
even
be
a
year
with
a
six-month
sentence
and
it
if
the
original
bill
goes
through
it
would,
you
know,
negate
every
any
type
of
punishment
other
than
the
original
confinement.
But
what
I'm
wondering
is,
do
you
see
any
civil
liability
here?
F
I
don't
think
that,
if
I
remember
correctly,
I
don't
think
there
can
be,
but
I
just
wanted
to
put
this
on
the
record.
Let's
just
say
that
someone
is
confined
for
a
year
and
then
found
innocent
of
all
charges.
Do
you
see
any
civil
liability?
If
we
put
this
through
making
confinement
confinement
that
we
have
confined
someone
for
a
year
with
no
guilty
plea.
L
For
the
record,
my
cathcart
representing
the
city
of
henderson
from
a
civil
standpoint,
I
I'll
have
to
to
talk
with
our
civil
attorneys
on
that,
but
I
don't
see
that
it
would
be
part
of
the
pre-trial
release
program
and
I
don't
believe
that
we
can
be
held
civilly
liable
for
preparing
for
the
trial.
But
I
again
I
can
follow
up
with
you
on
that.
F
M
A
Okay,
don't
see
any
further
questions,
mr
cathcart,
thank
you
for
joining
us
this
morning
for
providing
your
testimony
and
for
continuing
to
work
with
the
sponsor
on
the
proposed
amendment.
We
appreciate
it.
Thank
you
chairman,
okay,
so
now
I'm
going
to
suspend
opposition
and
we're
going
to
go
back
to
testimony
in
support.
I
think
we
have
our
technical
difficulties
worked
out.
So
if
that
is
the
case
bps,
could
we
go
to
the
next
caller
in
support
of
assembly
bill
160.
D
C
D
E
B
Good
morning,
chairman
yeager
and
members
of
the
committee,
this
is
john
piro
j-o-h-n-p-I-r-o
from
the
clark
county
public
defender's
office.
We
support
this
bill
and
the
amendment
we
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
able
to
argue
for
credit
on
a
sentence
of
home
on
home
confinement
before
a
person
is
actually
sentenced.
B
Often,
delays
in
trial
or
a
resolution
of
a
case
are
out
of
the
control
of
an
individual
defendant.
Sometimes
the
state
asks
for
continuances.
Sometimes
our
side
asks
for
continuances
to
discover
more
evidence,
but
what
we've
learned
is
a
lot
of
the
times
it's
out
of
a
defendant's
control,
especially
even
with
the
covid
19
pandemic,
so
providing
or
credit
for
a
successful
stay
on
house
arrest
is
fair
and
comports
with
due
process.
Thank
you
and
that
concludes
my
testimony.
A
E
D
D
E
I
I
With
the
washoe
county
public
defender's
office,
we
are
in
support
of
this
bill
and
the
amendments
and
want
to
thank
assemblywoman
taurus
for
bringing
this
important
piece
of
legislation.
Back
to
this
committee's
consideration
in
respect
to
assembly,
women
hanson's
question
about
how
this
impacts
recidivism.
I
There
are
several
studies
which
indicate
that
it
does
have
significantly
improve
an
offender's
ability
to
be
rehabilitated,
especially
from
the
us
department
of
justice.
They
had
a
national
institute
of
justice
study,
which
indicated
that
there
was
a
success
rate
of
an
increase
in
31
percent
compared
to
offenders
placed
on
the
other
forms
of
community
supervision.
I
We
appreciate
again
all
the
hard
work
that
has
gone
into
this
bill
and
hope
that
this
will
allow
people
who've
had
to
pay
for
house
arrest,
which
is
an
extremely
costly
device
in
order
to
ensure
that
they
receive
the
benefit
from
doing
well
while
on
supervision.
Thank
you
so
much
for
allowing
me
to
testify
today.
E
I
J
E
E
I
I
actually
am
in
a.d
25,
and
I'm
I'm
here
today,
representing
over
a
thousand
members
compromised
of
comprised
sorry
of
incarcerated
people
previously
incarcerated
people
and
family
members,
friends
and
supporters
of
them.
I
want
to
thank
the
sponsors
and
co-sponsors
of
the
bill
to
have
the
courage
to
step
up
at
making
nevada
state
that's
working
towards
creating
more
just
communities.
I
The
reality
is
that
time
served
as
time
served.
Just
as
you
know,
my
other
comrades
have
said
no
matter
where
you
serve
it.
If
you
serve
it
in
jail
or
you
serve
it
in
the
community,
giving
people
good
time.
Credit
for
home
confinement
is
just
one
way
to
take
a
small
step
towards
equity
and
justice
for
all
of
the
reasons
that
have
been
previously
mentioned
and
because
it
really
is
just
the
right.
I
A
Thank
you
bps.
I
will
close
testimony
and
support.
Let's
go
back
to
testimony
in
opposition.
Mr
cathcart,
I
wanted
to
ask
if
you
are
still
there
on
the
zoom
with
us,
I'm
not
sure
if
you're
in
front
of
your
computer
looks
like
you
are.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
rejoining
us.
I
did
have
assemblywoman
summers,
armstrong
had
a
question
she
did
want
to
ask.
So
if
you
don't
mind,
let's
go
to
her
for
a
question.
M
Thank
you,
chair
yeager,
mr
cathcart.
There
has
been
a
statement
that
I'm
trying
to
get
some
clarity
on,
and
that
is
the
cost
of
home
confinement.
So
if
a
person
is
on
a
misdemeanor
charge
and
they
are,
they
are
on
home
confinement,
can
you
give
me
an
idea
of
what
the
cost
is
of
that
confinement
pre-trial.
L
M
M
If
a
person
is
then
convicted
of
the
misdemeanor
and
they're
given
six
months,
not
only
would
they
have
additional
confinement,
but
they
also
have,
if
they're
not
in
in
municipal
jail.
If
they're
back
on
home
confinement,
they
have
to
continue
to
pay
that
cost
for
the
additional
six
months.
L
Thank
you
assembly,
one
for
the
record,
mike
cathcart
representing
the
city
of
henderson.
The
the
maximum
sentence
that
can
be
levied
on
a
misdemeanor
is
six
months.
I
believe
it
I
mean
if
it
was
18
months,
it
would
be
completely
different
conversation.
The
reason
we're
bringing
the
amendment
is
because
of
the
the
six
month
sentence
limitation
under
misdemeanors,
but
I'm
following
up
on
the
the
last
bit
of
your
question
about
the
cost
I'm
happy
to,
like
I
said,
get
that
information.
M
Thank
you,
sir.
Mr
cathcart,
can
you
just
explain
why
why
it
is
important
for
the
city
of
henderson
to
have
the
option
to
not
be
able
to
apply
any
credit
for
home
confinement
at
that
part,
I
saw
your
amendment,
but
I
just
don't
understand
what
the
opposition
is.
Maybe
I
missed
it
in
the
conversation.
L
I
believe
what
we're
looking
at
is
if
the
time
has
run
on
the
misdemeanor
charge
and
we're
not
able
to
impose
any
sort
of
sentence
or
a
suspended
sentence,
we
don't
have
the
ability
to
make
sure
that
the
the
sentence
is
carried
out.
I
mean
it
could
be
anger
management
classes,
it
could
be
dui
classes,
it
could
be
a
lot
of
other
things.
L
We
need
a
mechanism
to
make
sure
that
those
things
happen
after
the
trial
and
if
the
entire
sentence
is
already
run
on
the
confinement
option,
we
would
not
have
a
way
to
to
make
sure
that
those
post-trial
sentence
requirements
are
followed
through
on.
A
C
Yeah,
I
can
tell
you
the
house
arrest
just
so
people
are
aware
house
arrests
can
cost
anywhere
between
I've
seen
as
low
as
eight
dollars
and
up
to
twenty
dollars
a
day
on
house
arrest.
I
will
tell
you
that
certain
jurisdictions
have
different
requirements
like,
for
example,
the
clark
county
detention
center.
Their
pre-trial
division
inmates
are
not,
or
in
people
that
are
incarcerated
that
are
put
on
pre-trial
house
arrest.
They
actually
do
not
have
to
pay
for
the
house
arrest,
so
it
is
included
a
lot
of
other
jurisdictions.
C
Those
costs
do
go
on
the
defendant
pre-trial
to
pay
for
those.
So
there's
just
a
lot
of
varying
degrees
on
whether
or
not
and
who
incurs
those
costs.
I
think
some
jurisdictions
realize
that
they're
saving
putting
people
on
house
arrest
and
by
not
incarcerating
them
in
their
detention
facilities
and
some
people
don't
have
the
mechanisms
yet
to
have
that,
and
so
the
costs
do
go
on
the
particular
defendant.
A
J
So
assemblywoman
heidi
kasama
district
2,
mr
cathcart,
your
last
response.
If,
if
the
judge
still
had
the
ability
to,
for
example,
mandate,
anger
management
classes
or
or
drug
help
or
or
training
or
classes,
would
that
alleviate
the
concern
so
that
the
time
spent
on
house
arrest
would
still
cover
the
sentence?
But
if
the
judge
had
leeway
to
impose
additional
counseling
or
or
treatment,
would
that
make
it
work?
For
you,
the
the
allowing
the
house
service
for
the
misdemeanor.
L
Thank
you,
assemblywoman
for
the
record,
mike
cathcart
representing
the
city
of
henderson.
I
think
the
problem
there
is
if
the
the
entire
six
months
is,
the
clock
is
run
through
a
continuance
or
two
continuances
to
the
trial
and
they're
giving
credit
for
the
entire
six
months.
There
would
be
no
mechanism
to
make
sure
that
they,
even
if
the
anger
management
classes
or
the
the
whatever
mitigation
classes,
are
ordered
by
the
judge
and
the
the
rest
of
the
sentence
is
suspended.
L
There
was
no
way
for
us
to
there's
no
hammer
basically
to
make
sure
that
they
go
when
they
take
those
anger
management
classes
and
that
they
they
do
their
dui
school
and
those
types
of
things.
We
got
to
make
sure
that
there
is
some
sort
of
punishment
mechanism
to
make
sure
that
they
they
go
to
those
classes.
L
I
I
thank
you
assemblywoman
for
the
record
mike
cathcart
representing
the
city
of
henderson.
I
think
that's,
I
think,
we're
kind
of
on
the
same
page.
We
just
we
under
statue.
We
still
have
to
have
some
time
we're
limited
under
nrs
to
six
months
and
if
that
six
months
is
already
run
under
residential
confinement,
we
are
unable
to
to
levy
any
other
confinement.
After
that
we're
limited
at
the
six
months.
J
C
Here,
if
I
could
just
respond
to
that,
I
I
I
appreciate
assemblywoman
kasama's
like
a
question
on
that,
and
I
think
this
bill
actually
does
that
because
in
you
know
it
is
discretionary
for
the
judge
to
give
credit.
So
if
people
are
you
know,
you
know
they
want
to
be
able
to
have
some
additional
leverage
for
people
to
complete
like
any
requirements
of
their
ultimate
sentence.
It
would
be
up
to
the
judge
to
determine
if
they
wanted
to
give
like
credit
or
partial
credit
for
that
time
spent
on
residential
confinement.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
cathcart,
for
rejoining
us.
I
know
it's
been
a
little
bit
sporadic
this
morning
in
terms
of
participation,
but
we
appreciate
you
being
here.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
A
E
J
J
The
credit
for
time
serve
needs
to
reflect
that.
If
you
have
two
defendants,
who've
got
similar
backgrounds
who
committed
similar
offenses.
One
remains
in
the
detention
center
for
one
reason
or
another,
and
the
other
makes
pre-trial
release
with
house
arrested
condition,
maybe
because
they
can
afford
it
in
their
particular
jurisdiction.
J
You
can
step
into
your
yard
when
you
want
to.
These
are
big
differences
in
terms
of
what
people
in
house
arrest
experiences
experience
rather
versus
people
who
are
confined
behind
bars
in
an
institution
in
many
ways,
it's
arguably
closer
to
the
conditions
we've
experienced
over
the
last
year
than
it
is
to
somebody
who's
locked
inside
a
detention
facility
with
other
people.
They
might
be
dangerous
that
might
be
not
dangerous
sharing
rooms
with
people
sharing
toilets
with
people,
not
necessarily
having
a
door
when
you
go
to
the
bathroom.
J
These
are
big
differences
between
house
arrest
and
and
residential
and
incarceration,
so
that
has
to
be
reflected
on
the
credits
awarded
it's
just
it's
not
equitable,
and
it
does
play
a
a
factor
at
sentencing
at
house.
When
people
are
sentenced
to
house
arrest,
their
defense
counsel
can
argue
about
their
participation
in
house
arrest
as
a
mitigating
factor.
The
judge
might
give
them
a
lighter
sentence
on
the
back
end,
because
the
defendant
has
participated
in
house
arrests
and
done
so
without
any
violations.
J
Additionally,
this
makes
our
already
confusing
prison
credit
scheme
more
confusing.
I
know
many
of
you
follow
the
advisory
commission
on
the
administration
of
justice
and
justice.
Hardesty
has
commented
in
other
members
on
numerous
occasions
on
how
confusing
our
credit
scheme
is.
Victims,
don't
get
it
quite
frankly,
prosecutors
often
don't
understand
it.
J
So,
just
using
house
arrest
credits
to
reduce
somebody's
time
in
prison,
in
our
opinion,
adds
to
a
confusing
scheme
for
victims,
and
it's
for
those
reasons,
mr
chairman
and
members
of
the
committee,
that
we
are
in
opposition
here
today,
but
we
remain
committed
to
working
with
the
sponsors
to
see
if
we
can
come
to
some
sort
of
common
ground
on
this
bill.
Thank
you.
A
E
E
A
H
Thank
you,
sir,
and
thank
you
committee
for
allowing
for
indulging
us
in
the
presentation
today.
I
do
appreciate
it.
I
just
want
to
iterate
that
you
know.
Currently
you
we
do
get
credit
for
house
arrest,
post
sentencing
and
really
it
just
makes
sense
that
we
do
this
for
pre-trial
residential
confinement
as
well.
H
You
know,
as
my
colleague
as
someone
wheeler
said,
confinement
is
confinement
and
I
think
that
we
recognize
that
in
a
new
way
and
while
during
the
quarantine
period
in
early
2020,
many
of
us
might
have
felt
that
we
were
as
confined,
but
rather
the
restrictions
on
individuals
that
are
in
house
arrest
are
even
more
confined.
They
cannot
go
for
a
walk
like
I
would
indulge
in
a
walk
very
early
on.
H
They
don't
have
the
privilege
of
being
able
to
to
have
indulge
themselves
in
some
of
the
very
basic
things
that
we
appreciate
in
our
everyday
life
and
so
confinement
is
confinement.
I
look
forward
to
continuing
to
work
with
our
stakeholders
to
pass
a
strong
piece
of
legislation
that
will
protect
the
liberties
of
our
community.
C
No
I'll
wait,
but
I
am
available
if
anyone
has
any
questions
offline
regarding
how
the
process
actually
works
in
practice.
And
I
look
forward
to
having
those
continued
conversations
with
not
only
the
district
attorneys
association
but
as
well
as
the
city
of
henderson
and
the
other
municipal
jurisdictions.
A
Thank
you
both
for
presenting
the
bill
assemblywoman
torres.
If
you
could
just
keep
me
updated
on
progress
in
terms
of
further
amendments
on
the
bill,
I
would
appreciate
it.
Thank
you
for
joining
us
here.
It's
good
to
see
you
again
in
the
assembly
judiciary
committee
and
I
suppose
you
are
now
released
to
head
back
to
assembly
government
affairs.
A
A
A
We
have
our
own
assemblywoman
cohen
to
present
the
bill
and
she
has
some
presenters
with
her,
and
I
want
to
welcome
back
to
the
committee,
our
former
colleague
former
assemblywoman
shay
backus,
it's
good
to
have
you
back
in
the
judiciary
committee
and
see
you
if
only
virtually
and
then
I
believe
we
also
have
miss
wolf
and
mr
kaplan.
So
thank
you
all
for
your
patience
in
sitting
through
that
first
bill
hearing
this
morning,
assemblywoman
cohen,
when
you're
ready
to
kick
things
off,
please
go
ahead.
G
Thank
you,
chair,
chair
yeager,
vice
chairwin
and
committee,
I'm
leslie
cohen,
representing
assembly
district
29,
which
is
mostly
in
henderson
and
a
little
unincorporated
clark
county.
I
am
honored
to
present
ab145
the
uniform
registration
of
canadian
money
judgments
act.
The
uniform
registration
of
canadian
money
judgments
act
was
drafted
by
the
uniform
law
commission,
also
known
as
the
national
conference
of
commissioners
on
uniform
state
laws,
which
is
an
organization
comprised
of
volunteer
attorney
commissioners
appointed
by
the
50
states
and
the
united
states
territories
and
the
district
of
columbia.
G
Since
1892,
the
uniform
law
commission
has
drafted
nonpartisan
legislation
in
areas
of
state
statutory
law
where
uniformity
is
necessary
and
beneficial
nevada
has
a
long
history
of
enacting
uniform
acts.
In
fact,
nevada's
enacted
over
a
hundred
uniform
acts
such
as
the
uniform
commercial
code,
the
uniform
child
custody,
jurisdiction
and
enforcement
act.
The
uniform
transfers
to
minors
act,
the
uniform
anatomical
gifts
act
and
the
uniform
deployed
parents,
custody
and
visitation
act.
The
nevada
legislature
passes
these
acts
because
they're
good
law
for
our
citizenry
uniformed
law.
G
Commission
members
must
be
lawyers
qualified
to
practice,
law
and
uniform
law.
Commissioners
are
practicing
lawyers,
judges,
legislators
and
legislative
staff
and
law
professors
like
several
other
current
and
former
nevada
legislature,
legislators
and
lcb
staff
attorneys,
I'm
a
uniform
law,
commissioner,
having
been
appointed
after
my
first
term
in
the
legislature
before
I
introduce
my
fellow
presenters
and
we
get
into
the
bill,
I'm
just
going
to
give
you
a
little
taste
of
what
it's
like
to
serve
on
the
drafting
committee
with
the
ulc.
G
We
all
meet
in
person
and
telephonically
several
times
to
work,
to
draft
the
best
law
possible
and-
and
it's
basically
going
line
by
line
in
this
in
the
proposed
law.
The
law
is
also
vetted
by
a
separate
style
committee
and
along
the
way,
the
full
commission
consisting
of
commissioners
from
all
50
states.
The
district
of
columbia
and
territories
has
the
opportunity
to
debate
the
act.
G
G
Presenting
with
me
today
is
nevada,
uniform
law,
commissioner,
shea
bacchus,
caitlyn,
wolf,
uniform
law,
commissioner
legislative
council
and
kirk
kaplan,
who
is
a
nevada
attorney
and
cpa,
and
a
member
of
the
canada
and
bounded
business
alliance.
I'll
now
turn
the
presentation
over
to
commissioner
backus
and
chair.
I
just
want
you
to
know
because
you're
often
concerned
about
cles
and
we
should
get
cles,
but
we
don't
get
cles
just
so.
You
know.
Nevada
does
give
cle
credit
for
attending
the
yearly
uniform
law,
commission
conference
and
working
on
the
drafting
committees.
G
So
with
that
again
I'll
turn
it
over
to
commissioner
bacchus.
K
Today
it
is
my
pleasure
to
introduce
assembly
bill
145
with
assemblywoman
cohen,
who
is
also
a
ulc
commissioner.
I
want
to
first
take
a
moment
to
thank
assemblywoman
cohen
for
sponsoring
this
uniform
act.
The
uniformed
registration
of
canadian
money
judgment
act
is
designed
to
work.
Alongside
with
the
uniform
foreign
country
money
judgment,
recognition
act
which
nevada
adopted
in
2007.
K
This
recognition
act
is
now
codified
in
chapter
17
of
the
nevada,
revised
statutes
with
the
enactment
of
the
uniform
registration
of
canadian
money
judgment
act,
a
canadian
judgment
once
registered
pursuant
to
the
act
may
be
enforced
in
the
same
way
as
a
judgment
rendered
in
this
state.
There
are
several
advantages
to
enacting
this
registration
act.
K
K
Third,
this
registration
act
establishes
a
registration
procedure
similar
to
the
canadian
registration
procedure
regarding
foreign
judgments,
including
a
judgment
secured
in
nevada.
This
similar
registration
procedure
will
benefit
those
registering
judgments
from
canada
in
nevada
under
this
act
and
those
registering
nevada
judgments
in
connect
canada
under
the
canadian
statutes.
K
Most
importantly,
the
enactment
of
this
act
will
facilitate
commerce
between
nevada
and
canada.
Canada
is
one
of
the
united
states
most
important
trading
partners.
The
registration
act
facilitates
commerce
between
the
two
countries
by
offering
a
streamlined,
less
expensive
procedure
for
the
recognition
and
enforcement
of
money
judgments,
which
are
a
result
of
commercial
activity
between
the
nations.
K
According
to
the
business
council
of
canada
and
nevada,
a
non-profit
canada
is
nevada's
third
largest
export
market
and
prior
to
cobit
19
82,
800
nevada
jobs
depended
on
trade
and
investment
with
canada.
Thus,
streamlining
recognition
and
enforcement
of
canadian
money
judgments
in
nevada
will
continue
to
facilitate
commerce
between
canada
and
nevada.
K
K
With
the
building
closed
you
don't
get
to
see
it,
but
canada
day
is
where
there
were
events
throughout
the
day
and
reception
in
the
evening,
and
so
it's
it
exemplifies
the
relationship
between
nevada
and
canada.
N
N
Essentially,
when
cohn
has
asked
me
to
walk
the
committee
through
the
bill
section
by
section
to
give
you
a
sense
of
how
it
works,
so
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
do
that
it's
a
rather
short
bill.
So
I
don't
expect
this
to
take
too
long
just
to
dive
right
in
sections.
One
through
five
are
sort
of
the
general
introductory
matter
so
establishing
where
this
uniform
act
would
be
situated
within
the
nevada
statutes,
establishing
the
title
of
the
act
and
setting
forth
a
couple
of
definitions,
you'll
see
throughout
the
bill
section.
N
Six
of
the
bill
is
where
the
substance
of
the
act
really
starts
to
come
into
play.
This
section
explains
that
this
particular
uniform
act
applies
to
a
canadian
money
judgment
that
falls
within
the
scope
of
the
recognition
act.
As
commissioner
backus
already
explained,
the
recognition
act
is
a
uniform
act
that
nevada
has
already
had
on
the
books
for
several
years.
At
this
point
and
the
uniform
act
that
you're
considering
today
is
a
supplement
to
that
act
and
is
an
alternative,
so
section
six
explains
just
how
these
two
uniform
acts
work
together.
N
What
documents
need
to
be
submitted
to
the
clerk
of
court
in
nevada
in
order
to
jumpstart
that
process?
So
subsection,
two
of
section,
seven
explains
exactly
the
information
that
needs
to
be
transmitted
to
the
clerk
of
court
and
then
subsection
three
explains
what
happens?
What
does
the
clerk
of
court
do
once
he
or
she
receives
all
of
the
documentation,
information
and
registration
fee?
Well,
at
that
point,
the
clerk
needs
to
file
the
registration,
assign
a
docket
number
and
enter
the
canadian
judgment
on
the
court's
docket.
N
Subsection
4
of
section
7
provides
a
sample
form
that
could
be
used
during
this
registration
process,
so
it
contains
all
of
the
information,
and
that
is
also
listed
in
subsection
2
of
the
bill,
just
in
a
form,
format
and
part
five.
The
last
part
of
that
sample
form
also
contains
a
handy
checklist
of
attachments
and
documentation
that
would
need
to
be
transmitted
to
the
court
along
with
the
standard
paperwork
so,
for
instance,
a
copy
of
that
canadian
judgment,
a
translation
of
it
if
that
happens,
to
be
in
french
or
another
language
other
than
english.
N
But
that's
that's
section
seven,
so
section
seven
is
as
a
huge
portion
of
the
bill
here
laying
out
what
documentation
is
needed.
Section
eight
explains
well
what
comes
next
so
once
the
registration
paperwork
has
been
transmitted
to
the
nevada
court
once
the
clerk
has
entered
the
canadian
judgment
on
the
court's
docket
section
8
explains
that
that
canadian
money
judgment
is
enforceable
in
the
same
manner
and
to
the
same
extent
as
a
judgment.
N
That's
rendered
in
nevada,
it's
treated
exactly
the
same,
so
the
enforcement
procedure
is
just
the
same
as
a
nevada
enforcement
procedure
would
be
one
important
thing
to
note
here.
In
section
eight
is
there
is
a
grace
period,
so
you
can't
just
seek
registration,
have
it
put
on
the
court
socket
and
then
go
ahead
and
enforce
and
collect
that
money?
N
There
is
a
period
of
time,
a
30-day
period
to
pause,
because
notice,
of
course
needs
to
be
provided
to
the
party
against
whom
this
judgment
is
entered,
and
that's
where
the
next
section
of
the
bill
section
9
comes
into
play.
It's
all
about
notice
and
the
notice
must
be
served
on
the
person
against
whom
the
judgment
has
been
registered.
N
This
section
establishes
what
must
be
in
the
notice,
and
this
notice
also
makes
it
clear
to
the
person
that
he
or
she
has
an
opportunity
to
petition
the
court
to
vacate
the
registration.
They
have
a
30-day
period
in
which
they
can
do
that.
They
can
petition
the
court
section.
10
establishes
what
grounds
must
exist
in
order
to
petition
the
court
to
vacate.
N
So
if
they
want
to
get
this
registration
thrown
out,
they
may
either
argue
one
that
there's
a
ground
for
denial
under
the
recognition
act
so
again,
you're
already
existing
uniform
law
in
nevada
pertaining
to
these
foreign
country
judgments,
there's
a
list
of
grounds
under
your
existing
statute.
So
if
one
of
those
grounds
exists
or
the
person
can
argue
to
vacate
the
judgment,
because
the
registration
procedure
was
not
followed
properly,
perhaps
an
attachment
didn't
get
to
the
court.
Perhaps
the
paperwork
was
missing
or
not
filled
out
properly.
That
would
also
be
a
ground
section.
N
11
of
the
bill,
then
explains
it
goes
hand
in
hand
with
section
10.
If
an
individual
does
choose
to
petition
the
court
to
vacate,
they
can
also
ask
the
court
to
stay
enforcement
of
the
judgment,
while
they're
waiting
to
hear
back
for
the
court's
determination
of
that
petition.
So
a
stay
meaning
pause,
don't
try
to
collect
on
the
judgment,
don't
go
after
my
assets.
Don't
try
to
collect,
because
I
think
there's
a
problem
with
this
underlying
canadian
judgment.
N
Section
12
of
the
act
explains
in
a
little
bit
more
detail
how
this
registration
procedure
integrates
with
the
recognition
act
that
we've
already
mentioned
a
couple
of
times.
So
essentially
it
lays
out
that
if
somebody
wants
to
recognize
and
enforce
a
canadian
money
judgment
in
nevada,
they
have
two
options:
they
have
either
this
new
registration
procedure
under
ab145,
or
they
are
also
welcome
to
use
the
existing
procedure
under
current
law,
which
would
be,
as
commissioner
backus
stated,
filing
a
lawsuit
and
doing
a
little
bit
more
of
an
extensive
procedure.
That's
still
an
option.
N
This
section
of
the
bill
makes
it
clear
that
you
cannot
pursue
both
options.
At
the
same
time,
you
either
are
going
to
seek
registration
through
this
act
or
go
through
the
previous
existing
law
procedure,
and
then
sections
13
and
14
are
pretty
standard.
One
is
our
uniformity,
language,
that's
a
part
of
all
of
our
uniform
acts
in
section
13.
N
O
O
Ab-145
is
another
one
of
those
acts
that
will
help
canadians
reduce
court
involvement
here
in
nevada
and
thus
implement
or
help
our
trade
with
canada
bill
ab-145.
Now
before
this
committee
is
nothing
new
regarding
uniform
acts
as
assembly
woman,
cohen
and
commissioner
backus
explained
another
such
uniform
act
regards
international
matters.
O
As
such,
ab-145
is
just
one
of
many
natural
progressions
nevada
should
recognize
as
we
broaden
our
trade
with
canada.
I'm
sure
you
know,
canada
is
one
of
the
united
states.
Most
important
trading
partners
in
the
world,
just
to
quote
james
george,
a
professor
of
law
at
texas,
a
m
university
in
his
law
review
in
november
of
2020,
discussing
the
uniform
law
ab-145
now
is
he
wrote.
Vibrant
economies
benefit
from
predictable
and
consistent
judgment
enforcement
regimes.
O
Canada
has
many
shared
western
values
with
united
states,
including
similar
due
process
requirements
and
other
legal
and
judicial
matters.
I
know
this.
I've
been
involved
in
a
few
litigation
matters
not
personally
but
helped
other
people
in
canada
while
I'm
not
licensed
there.
I
have
been
involved
in
some
litigation
matters
and
I
know
that
their
judicial
process
up
there
is
similar
to
ours.
O
A
Thank
you
so
much
to
the
four
of
you
for
the
presentation
and
before
I
ask
a
couple
questions
I
I
did
want
to
note.
Senator
orrin
shaw
is
a
joint
sponsor
of
this
bill
and
he
for
those
of
you
don't
know
he
was
a
member
of
this
committee
for
six
sessions
and
now
is
serving
his
second
session
on
the
senate
judiciary
committee-
and
I
just
mentioned
that
because
he
is
a
big
fan
of
uniform
law
bills
and
I
remember
when
I
was
a
freshman
he
would.
A
He
probably
tried
to
shop
like
20
of
them,
to
me
to
get
me
to
sponsor
them,
and
I
think
I
did
one
but
as
he
liked
to
say,
and
assemblywoman
cohen
reminded
me
of
this,
he
would
sometimes
say
that
these
bills
may
not
be
the
most
exciting
bills
you've
ever
seen,
but
he
liked
to
reminisce
about
the
time
that
a
fist
fight
broke
out
between
uniform
law
commissioners
during
a
conference
as
they
fought
over
language
in
a
proposed
act.
So
I
think,
by
the
time
the
bill
gets
to
us.
A
It's
pretty
well
ironed
out,
but
there
is.
There
is
some
debate
and
arguing.
That
happens
at
the
the
convention
level,
so
you
know
thank
you
to
the
four
of
you
for
your
service
in
making
this
happen,
I'm
sure
I'm
going
to
have
some
questions
from
others,
but
I
wanted
to
ask
just
a
couple
and
assemblyman
cohen-
you
might
have
mentioned
this
in
your
introduction.
If
so,
I
just
missed
it,
but
I
I
wondered
where
we're
at
in
terms
of
other
states
adopting
this
uniform
law.
G
G
Yet
I
believe
there
are
two
states
that
have
that
have
adopted
it
so
far
so
and
then
I
I
should
also
note
the
thing
with
the
uniform
law
is:
there
are
some
things
like
ucc
where
every
state
basically
adopts
it,
and
then
there
are
other
things
that
it
just
kind
of
make
their
way
through
the
different
states
and
and
do
get
adopted
or
don't
get
adopted
and
aren't
as
universal
as
ucc
or
the
ucc
jea
having
to
do
with
jurisdiction
in
custody,
child
custody
matters
and
then,
if,
if
miss
wolf,
if
I'm
incorrect
about
the
two
states,
you
want
to
correct
me
on
that.
N
Yeah
caitlyn
wolf
here
from
the
uniform
law
commission
just
to
jump
in
really
quickly
so
you're
right,
it's
been
adopted
in
colorado
so
far,
it's
also
pending
in
a
couple
of
other
jurisdictions,
this
legislative
session.
So
in
addition
to
your
nevada
bill,
it's
also
pending
in
nebraska
and
rhode
island,
the
bill
was
finalized
at
the
end
of
2019.
So,
unfortunately,
with
with
covid-
and
you
know,
being
the
everything
everything
occurring
over
the
last
year,
it's
had
a
little
bit
of
a
slower
start.
N
But
what's
nice
about
your
situation
in
nevada?
Is
you
already
have
that
underlying
supplemental
build
the
recognition
act
on
the
books?
Already,
I'm
actually
working
with
several
states
to
get
that
on
the
books
now,
including
new
york
and
a
few
others
before
they
can
adopt
this
piece?
So
you
guys
are
are
one
step
ahead,
but
a
slower
start
for
this
bill,
but
we
have
a
couple
of
other
jurisdictions
considering
it
now.
A
Thank
you
miss
back,
as
I
saw
that
you
had
your
hand
up.
Did
you
want
to
add
something
on
that
point
as
well.
K
Shay
back
is
for
the
record
cherry
yaker.
No,
I
just
was
going
to
fill
in
the
blanks
on
that.
So
thank
you
to
caitlin.
Well,
for
that.
A
So
you
know
my
question
is
sometimes
we
get
these
bills
and
then
people
on
the
committee
want
to
amend
them
in
some
fashion,
but
my
recollection
was
that
there
is
some
need
for
uniformity
among
the
states
for
these
to
be
these
to
be
effective
essentially,
and
so
if
you
could
just
speak
to
that,
not
that
anyone's
trying
to
propose
an
amendment
to
this
one.
But
if
you
could
speak,
someone
could
speak
globally
about
sort
of
that
issue
and
the
need
for
uniformity
among
the
states.
G
Right
well,
it's
the
idea
is
that
there
are
certain
things
that
should
be
uniform
between
the
states,
because
it
makes
it
easier
to
do
business
and
and
to
know
what
you're
going
to
deal
with
from
state
to
state
and
then,
as
far
as
changes
that
can
be
made.
There's
a
there's
kind
of
like
a
line
right
that
you
can
states.
Individual
states
can
make
changes
up
to
a
point
and
if
they
cross
the
line,
then
it's
no
longer
considered
uniform
law.
So
it
it
just
depends.
G
You
know,
I
know,
there's
another
uniform
law
piece
that
I'm
bringing.
Hopefully
the
language
will
be
out
soon
and
there's
a
whole
section
that
I
that
I
want
to
remove,
because
I
don't
like
it.
I
know
that
when
the
when
similar
things
had
been
before
this
committee
in
different
sessions,
the
committee
didn't
like
it
frankly,
the
speaker
doesn't
like
it,
and
but
I
know
that
that
even
if
that
section
is
removed,
the
ulc
has
determined
that
that
would
it
would
still
be
uniform
law.
G
G
J
Mine
is
a
simple
question,
just
understanding
in
section
10
and
11,
you
talked
about
where
there's
a
30-day
notice
so
that
the
person
that
has
the
judgment
served
against
them
can
respond
and
in
section
11
it
gives
them
an
opportunity
to.
J
K
Yeah,
no,
I
would
be
happy
to
thank
you.
Miss
wilkin,
feel
free
to
add
on
so
shay
back
is
for
the
record
through
chair
yeager,
to
assembly,
woman
kasama.
Basically,
what
would
happen
is
there
is
a
procedure.
K
They
would
petition
the
court
here
where
the
judgment
had
been
registered
to
challenge
it
and
so
under
the
act
before
you
there's
limited
provisions
of
what
could
be
challenged,
and
so,
if
there
was
like
a
substantive
challenge,
you
can
look
also
under
the
recognition
act,
which
details
numerous
reasons,
so
that
would
be
fleshed
through
here
in
our
courts.
But
one
of
the
things
that
could
happen
is
let's
say
that
the
canadian
judgment
was
subject
to
appeal
and
it
wasn't
a
final
judgment
in
that
situation.
K
The
court
here
someone
would
petition,
explain
that
it's
pending
an
appeal,
and
obviously
the
appeal
would
finish
out,
but
if
there
were
other
substantive
challenges
to
the
underlying
matter,
that
obviously
has
to
be
brought
in
that
court,
but
just
with
respect
to
whether
or
not
it
could
be
enforced.
That
would
be
subject
to
our
district
courts
here,
and
I
don't
know
if
miss
wolf
would
like
to
add
anything
else
to
that.
F
K
Us
I'm
happy
to
answer
that
shay
back
is
for
the
record
through
chair
yeager,
to
assembly,
men
o'neill.
Basically,
I
I
look
this
up,
because
I
like
the
terminology,
reciprocity
and
usually
with
reciprocity.
It's
like
if
it's
good
for
one
state.
It
comes
back
to
the
other.
It's
an
even
balance
in
this
situation.
Canada
already
has
statutes
on
their
books
in
certain
different
provinces
and
territories,
so
like
we're
before
nevada
seeking
to
get
this
uniform
law
passed.
Different
territories
in
canada
likewise,
would
have
that
statute.
F
K
Shay
back
is
for
the
record
through
chair
yeager,
to
assemblyman
o'neill.
No,
that's
not
what
I'm
saying
there
are
already
statutes
in
place
in
canada
just
depending
on
the
territory
province
like
we
have
in
the
united
states,
considering
various
laws
they
do
already
have
statutes.
I
just
don't
want
to
say
every
territorian
province
in
canada
has
it
on
the
books,
but
some
do
and
they
also.
K
We
also
had
there's
a
uniform
law
commission
of
canada,
where
individuals
also
sat
from
that
commission
on
or
were
like
visitors
or
participants
in
us
in
the
uniform
law
commission.
Also
implementing
this
uniform
law.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
for
this
I'm
not
sure
whoever
wants
to
answer
this
I'd
I'd
be
helpful,
just
to
hear
like
a
typical
example
of
a
judgment
that
would
benefit
from
this
and
how
this
act
would
change
from
where
we
are
with
one
or
two.
You
know
illustrative.
K
I'm
happy
to
do
that.
Shay
back
is
for
the
record
through
chair
yeager
to
assemblyman
or
elector.
So
what
could
happen?
Is
someone
files
a
lawsuit
in
canada,
so,
let's
just
say,
there's
a
breach
of
contract
and
the
canada
courts
are
the
right,
let's
say
say:
toronto
or
another
city,
where
someone
files
a
lawsuit
over
a
breach
of
contract
where
there's
proper,
personal
and
subject
matter
jurisdiction
in
toronto.
K
Between
the
two
parties,
the
plaintiff
becomes
a
prevailing
party
to
that
breach
of
contract
action.
Where
the
key
is
there
has
to
be
a
money
judgment
of
sorts.
So
it
couldn't
be
anything
else
like
where
you're
mandating
performance
under
the
contract.
It
would
have
to
be
for
a
money
judgment,
so
they
recover.
Let's
say
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
the
plaintiff
realizes
their
the
defendant,
has
no
assets
or
limited
assets
to
satisfy
that
judgment
in
canada.
K
The
time
for
appeal
is
exhausted
and
that
judgment
in
canada
becomes
a
final
judgment
in
favor
of
the
plaintiff,
for
let's
say
the
hundred
thousand
dollars
the
plaintiff
realizes
the
defendant.
It
has
assets
or
has
a
business
in
nevada.
K
They
would
take
that
hundred
thousand
dollar
judgment
and
they
would
register
it
here
in
our
let's
say:
district
courts
at
the
defendant's
businesses
in
clark
county
to
make
it
easier
if
they
were
going
to
do
like
a
writ
of
attachment
of
sorts,
so
they
would
come
to
nevada,
they
would
record
they
would
file
the
like
that
the
form
is
already
provided,
they
could
hire
a
council
or
they
could
do
it
themselves.
If
they're
an
individual
and
not
a
corporation.
K
They
would
register
that
judgment
here
in
the
eighth
judicial
district
court
once
it's
registered.
They
then
give
notice
pursuant
to
the
act,
to
the
defendant,
and
they
wait
the
allotted
time.
If
there
is
no
challenge,
then
that
is
now
a
registered
judgment
here
and
they
could
simply
take
that
registered
judgment
seeker
rid
of
the
attachment
of
assets
here
in
clark
county.
Hopefully
that
answers
your
question.
I'm
happy
to
elaborate.
F
K
Shay
back
is
for
the
record
through
chair
yeager,
to
assemblyman
or
elector.
I
actually
I've
seen
it.
I
actually
was
in
a
hearing
before
honorable
crockett
and
we
don't
have
the
registration
act,
but
under
the
recognition
act
where
someone
actually
has
to
petition
and
have
a
hearing.
I
sat
through
one,
and
I
thought
that
was
kind
of
interesting.
I
had
never
seen
it
before
and
yeah.
That's
the
only
time.
I've
seen
it
it's
not
common
in
my
practice,
but
I
don't
do
too
much
international
practice.
Although
I
do
civil
litigation.
A
A
It
doesn't
look
like
we
have
other
questions
so
for
now.
I
want
to
thank
the
four
of
you
for
presenting
I'll.
Ask
you
to
sit
tight
for
a
moment,
we'll
see
if
there's
any
testimony
on
the
bill
and
then
we'll
come
back
for
any
wrap-up
testimony
that
any
of
you
may
have
so
at
this
time
I'll
go
to
testimony
in
support
of
assemblyville
145..
A
A
E
A
A
G
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
to
my
fellow
presenters.
I
appreciate
your
efforts
in
in
working
toward
getting
this
legislation
passed
with
that
I'll
just
leave
it
with
them
available.
If
anyone
has
any
more
questions
about
the
uniform
law
commission
or
this
legislation
in
particular,
and
invite
the
other
presenters
to
make
any
final
comments.
They'd,
like.
A
N
Just
would
like
to
echo
my
thank
you
to
you,
chair
to
vice
chair,
gwen
and
members
of
the
committee.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
I
do
hope
that
we'll
earn
your
support
for
this
bill.
As
commissioner
backus
just
mentioned,
I
think
in
particular,
coming
after
this
pandemic,
as
it
comes
to
a
close
as
courts
are
looking
at
overburdened
dockets,
it's
in
particular
a
good
time
to
be
thinking
about
this
bill.
How
can
we
lighten
their
load?
N
O
A
A
That
takes
us
to
our
last
item
on
the
agenda
this
morning,
which
is
public
comment
by
way
of
reminder.
We'll
reserve
up
to
30
minutes
for
public
comment,
it'll
be
at
the
end
of
each
meeting
and
callers
in
the
public
comment
line
will
have
up
to
two
minutes
to
provide
public
comment.
I
think
we
may
have
a
few
public
commenters
today
bps.
Could
we
go
to
the
phones
and
confirm
that
there's
somebody
there
and
if
so,
could
we
ask
the
first
public
commenter
to
provide
testimony.
E
D
Brown
t-o-n-j-a-b-r-o-w-n
advocates
for
the
inmates
and
the
innocent
good
morning,
chair
and
members
of
the
judiciary
committee.
I
would
like
to
say
thank
you
to
assemblywoman
taurus
for
bringing
ab160
forward,
and
I
would
also
like
to
thank
the
committee
for
friday's
work
session.
A
E
D
Today,
I
want
to
talk
about
36
year
old,
nicholas
farah,
who
died
at
the
clark
county
detention
center
on
march
31st
2019.
nick's
story
reminds
me.
A
lot
of
my
brother,
thomas
nick
was
arrested.
Nick
was
actually
passing
through
las
vegas.
He
was
on
his
way
home
from
a
vacation
in
california
at
disneyland
with
his
family
and
two
daughters.
D
D
D
It's
all
on
video
nick,
wasn't
even
combative
with
him
didn't
try
to
assault
anybody
and
they
put
nick
in
the
restrained
chair
his
arms
over
his
head
and
pushed
his
face
head
down
in
between
his
legs
and
affixated
him,
which
a
death
medical
examiner,
ruled
his
death,
a
homicide.
Just
like
my
brother,
thomas
purdy.
D
A
A
Okay,
I
don't
see
anything.
I
wanted
to
say
that
I
missed
you
all
yesterday.
It
felt
very
strange
to
not
have
a
judiciary
committee
meeting
in
the
morning,
so
I'm
glad
that
we're
back
together
this
morning
and
want
to
thank
all
of
you
for
your
attention
and
good
questions
this
morning.
In
terms
of
the
rest
of
the
week,
we
do
have
judiciary
committee
meetings
scheduled
every
day,
the
rest
of
the
week
we
will
be
starting
at
8
o'clock,
I'm
pretty
excited
about
what
we're
going
to
be
hearing
tomorrow.
A
We
have
cannabis,
alcohol
and
civil
actions
on
tap
on
thursday,
we're
going
to
hear
an
evictions
bill,
so
I'm
sure
that
one
will
generate
some
interest
and
then,
on
friday,
we're
going
to
hear
bills
relating
to
paternity
and
prostitution.
So
you
can
put
those
two
together
on
the
same
day.
That's
what
we've
got
so
far,
we're
still
looking
at
building
next
week's
agenda,
but
that's
where
we
are
for
now
so
with
nothing
else
in
front
of
the
committee
this
morning.