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Here
we
do
have
a
quorum.
I
expect
assemblyman
oren
liquor
to
be
here
shortly,
so
I'll
try
to
remember
to
mention
when
he
arrives,
and
we
can
mark
him
present
good
morning,
everyone
good
morning
to
our
members
good
morning
to
members
of
the
public
who
are
watching
either
on
the
legislature's
website
or
on
our
youtube
channel
and
welcome
to
day
9
of
the
2021
nevada
legislature.
A
Just
a
couple
of
housekeeping
rules
before
we
get
started
members.
If
you
could
remember
to
mute
your
microphones
when
you're,
not
speaking,
that'll
help
with
the
feedback
for
our
presenters
today.
I
know
it's
a
little
bit
awkward,
but
if
you
could
remember
to
state
your
name
each
time
before
you
speak,
particularly
when
someone
asks
you
a
question:
that'll
make
it
easier
for
our
committee
secretary
to
accurately
prepare
the
minutes
I'll.
A
Try
to
remind
you
if
you
forget
to
do
that,
because
I
know
it's
really
not
a
natural
thing,
a
couple
other
things
I
wanted
to
mention.
We
do
expect
courtesy
and
respect
to
one
another
in
these
meetings.
We
don't
always
agree
on
policy.
That's
perfectly
okay,
but
we
need
to
make
sure
we're
doing
that
in
a
respectful
way
and
then
finally,
committee
members
in
this
virtual
world
are
often
using
multiple
devices
to
participate
in
zoom
to
look
at
exhibits
to
communicate
with
each
other
since
we're
not
in
the
same
room.
A
A
First
take
the
presentation
from
the
nevada
gaming
control
board
members.
You
might
recall
we
had
this
originally
scheduled
for
thursday,
but
we
moved
it
to
this
morning.
So
I
want
to
welcome
to
the
committee,
mr
brent
gibson,
who
is
the
chairman
of
the
gaming
control
board
and
will
give
him
an
opportunity
to
go
through
his
presentation
and
then,
like
always,
we'll
have
a
period
a
period
of
time
where
we
can
ask
questions.
So.
Mr
gibson
welcome
back
to
the
assembly,
judiciary
committee
and
please
proceed
with
your
presentation
when
you're
ready.
E
Good
morning,
everyone
thank
you,
chairman
jaeger,
for
that
warm
welcome
members
of
the
committee.
My
name
is
bryn
gibson,
it's
an
honor
to
be
before
you
today.
There
are
so
many
new
members
that
I
should
probably
introduce
myself
more
fully.
I
started
my
career
at
lionel
sawyer
and
collins
in
the
gaming
and
regulatory
division.
There
spent
seven
years
there
under
a
man
named
bob
fess,
who
was
one
of
the
primary
authors
of
the
1955-56
gaming
control
act.
E
E
I
did
it
once
for
an
extended
period,
and
I
came
back
this
last
summer
to
fill
in
after
kyle
george
and
ag's
office
step
back
into
his
original
first
assistant
role.
I
have
with
me
mr
michael
morton,
who
spent
four
years
in
lcb
as
an
attorney.
Those
are
formative
years
for
him,
and
so
he
is
well
trained
in
lcb,
statutory
construction
and
the
drafting,
and
I'm
pleased
to
have
him
him
here
with
me.
E
He's
basically,
you
may
recognize
you
have
a
the
board
packet
that
we've
distributed
all
of
you
and
I'm
going
to
be
going
through
that
and
just
outlining
the
nature
of
the
nevada,
gaming
control
board
and
our
regulatory
structure.
A
Thank
you
for
asking
mr
gibson
and
of
course
I
I
neglected
to
to
mention
your
substantial
background
in
gaming
and
and
the
the
work
that
we've
done
together,
but
I
think
what
makes
sense
what
we've
been
trying
to
do
is
just
kind
of
have
you
go
through
the
presentation
and
then
I'll
ask
members
to
hold
questions
to
the
end.
Only
because
on
zoom
it's
a
little
clunky,
sometimes
to
try
to
talk
at
the
same
time.
So
it
seems
to
be
the
best
for
record
keeping.
E
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Let
me
start
by
just
giving
you
all
a
sense
of
the
scope
and
size
of
the
gaming
industry
in
nevada,
and
this
is
on
the
introductory
page
of
the
board
information
packet.
E
So
at
the
fiscal
at
the
end
of
fiscal
year
ending
june
2020,
we
had
267
non-restricted
licensees
and
these
are
the
bigger
licensees.
They
generated
18.3
billion
dollars
in
gaming
revenue
of
our
within
our
267
non-restricted
licenses.
E
E
We
we've
learned
through
roughly
70
years
of
experience
in
administering
the
modern
that
is
1955
to
56
game
nevada.
Gaming
control
act
that
the
gaming
control
board's
reputation
and
the
state's
reputation
is
based
in
large
part
on
our
philosophy
that
gaming,
when
properly
regulated,
can
thrive
and
be
an
important
part,
an
important
part
and
contributed
to
the
state's
economy.
E
Many
people
use
the
term
gold
standard
regulatory
structure
or
agency.
It
really
is
this
rigorous
licensing,
suitability
and
operating
standard,
the
most
rivers
in
the
world
that
I
think,
makes
up
that
that
gold
standard
sort
of
premise.
E
Many
of
you
have
probably
heard
that
the
demographic
of
gaming
is
changing
the
kinds
of
games,
the
player
changing
constantly
and
in
turn,
our
our
industry
needs
to
be
able
to
evolve
to
keep
up
and
maintain
the
kind
of
interest
level
among
the
groups
of
people
who
travel
in
order
to
be
the
driver
of
one
of
the
primary
drivers
of
nevada's
economy.
E
E
Both
of
these
entities
together,
the
board
and
commission
in
a
by
this
two-part
system,
are
charged
with
protecting
the
integrity
and
stability
of
the
gaming
industry,
through
in-depth
investigation
procedures,
precise
and
demanding
licensing
practices
and
strict
enforcement
of
laws
and
regulations
and
holding
gaming
licenses
to
the
very
highest
standards
in
operating.
E
We
assume
and
accept
that
we
as
nevada's
gaming
regulatory
regulatory
bulwark
are
are
responsible
not
only
for
nevada,
protecting
nevada's,
citizenry
and
residents,
but
also
the
millions
and
millions
of
visitors
that
have
historically
come
to
nevada
to
to
play
and
enjoy
our
gaming
and
hospitality
hospitality
industries.
E
On
page
three
of
your,
our
information
packet
you'll
see
a
an
overview
of
the
board
and
commission.
This
page
illustrates
our
two-tiered
structure,
I'm
the
chairman
of
the
gaming
control
board.
I
was
appointed
to
this
position
after
serving
over
the
summer
and
in
interim
capacity
as
general
counsel
to
the
to
governor
sissel
act
and
then
leaving
and
joining
a
large
law
firm
national
law,
from
where
I
practiced
gaming
law,
technology
law,
water
law
and
items
like
that.
E
D
E
Also
serve
as
chair
in
the
capacity
as
exec
of
executive
director
of
this
of
the
gaming
control
board,
and
so
I'm
responsible
for
its
budget.
I'm
responsible
for
overseeing
all
of
the
various
divisions,
six
primary
divisions
inside
of
the
agency
for
human
resources
decisions
and
for
interacting
with
the
governor's
office
as
a
sort
of
an
attenuated
or
tangential
member
of
his
cabinet.
E
And
the
reason
I
say
it.
That
way
is
that
historically,
there's
been,
there's
been
sort
of
a
hands-off
approach
from
the
governor's
office
and
elected
officials
toward
quasi-judicial
bodies
and
the
gaming
control
board
is
given
its
importance
and
maintaining
the
robustness
and
being
able
being
able
to
discipline
even
the
most
important
licensees.
E
B
E
What
this
means
is
that
this
is
my
only
job
where
I'm
prohibited
from
having
other
employment,
and
so
all
day,
long
every
day
I
and
my
colleagues
member
phil
casaros,
was
acquainted
in
2019
and
member
terry
johnson,
who
the
governor
just
announced
is
in
a
holdover
position.
He
served
a
full
eight
years.
His
term
expired.
He
under
a
1911
ago,
was
able
to
basically
roll
over
into
the
next
term
and
continue
to
serve
with
full
authority,
and
this
is
helpful
as
an
aside.
E
This
is
a
helpful
thing
for
me
because,
as
a
new
chair,
I'm
tasked
with
not
only
the
traditional
duties
of
regulating
the
industry,
the
gaming
industry,
but
also
with
with
mitigating
covid,
with
ensuring
that
our
licensees,
our
many
licensees,
are
protecting
their
staff
and
that
they
are
they're
following
the
cover
mitigation
enforcement
mitigation
of
mitigation
efforts,
maintaining
the
the
limitations
on
occupancy
25
percent
of
casino
floor
occupancy
right
now
is
a
limitation
under
directive
35
and
we're
also
in
the
middle
of
a
legislative
session.
E
E
E
You
make
the
laws
you
set
into
statute,
primarily
nrs463.
You
said
in
statute
the
the
policy,
but
with
regard
to
you,
know,
sort
of
more
granular
policy.
The
gaming
commission
sets
out
and
we
follow
it
and
implement
it.
The
boarding
commission
meet
separately,
but
at
least
monthly
in
public
meetings.
E
The
chair
of
the
gaming
commission
is
john
moran,
a
long
time.
Southern
nevada
resident
in
nevada,
his
father,
was
the
sheriff.
As
you
may
know,
his
colleagues
on
the
commission
include
miss
deborah
fuchs,
miss
rosa
solis
rainey,
mr
donna
brown
and
mr
stephen
cohen,
an
especially
important
role
within
nevada's
gaming
regulatory
structure
is
the
executive
secretary,
and
this
is
a
this.
I
I
make
special
note
of
this
position
for,
for
reasons,
that'll
become
obvious
in
a
second.
E
I
make
this
note
because
my
the
person
who
brought
me
back
to
nevada
I'd,
say
I
have
family
here,
and
I
have
long
ties
here
or
deep
ties
here,
but
bob
fess
was
the
primary
reason.
I
came
back
to
nevada
to
practice
law
and
bob
was
the
first
executive
secretary
of
the
newly
formed
under
governor
grant
sawyer
nevada
gaming
control
board.
E
E
The
on
pages,
six
to
eight
you'll
see
an
overview
of
nevada
gaming
regulation
and
its
evolution
in
nevada.
E
On
page
eight
there's
an
outline
of
the
board
and
commission
functions.
As
I
mentioned,
the
board
and
commission
administer
chapters
462
3
463b,
464,
465
and
466.,
and
this
may
sound
like
it's
a
whole
lot
of
a
whole
lot
of
chapters,
but
each
one
has
a
very
unique
purpose,
plays
a
role
and
we
administer
each
one.
E
463
is
the
primary
chapter,
but
the
others
have
have
important
roles
as
well,
and
I
deal
with
them
with
most
of
them
on
a
weekly
basis,
at
least
as
a
two-tiered
regulatory
structure.
Our
we.
We
we
in
the
context
of
licensing
discipline.
The
board
opens
investigations
into
into
observed
or
or
claimed
that
is
reported,
inappropriate,
behavior
of
a
of
a
licensee
if
the
complaint
rises
to
the
level
of
of
discipline.
E
That
is
if
it
satisfies
our
our
council,
the
the
gaming
division
of
the
attorney
general's
office,
and
it
satisfies
the
members
of
the
board
that
it
meets
the
standards
of
more
likely
than
not
that
standard.
Then
we
will
draft
a
complaint
and
file
like
file
it
against
a
licensee
with
the
commission
in
such
disciplinary
matters.
The
board
acts
in
a
prosecutorial
role,
while
the
commission
acts
as
it
acts
as
a
judicial
body
or
the
decision-making
body.
E
The
commission
determines
ultimately
whether
the
discipline
is
appropriate
and
whether
the
type
or
what
the
type
and
magnitude
of
this
bunch
should
be
in
the
top.
In
the
context
of
applications
for
licensing
and
for
findings
of
suitability,
the
board
makes
recommendations
to
the
commission.
The
commission
can
accept
the
recommendation
they
can
also
limit
deny
they
can
condition
any
application
in
the
context
of
that
is
when
they
move
to
allowing
or
approving
the
license
or
finding
suitability.
E
When
adopting
regulations,
the
board
often
introduces
regular
regulatory
changes,
we
workshop
them,
we
hold
public
workshops
and
so
on,
and
we
hear
from
the
industry.
The
commission
is
ultimately
just
discharged
responsible
with
discharging
those
and
accepting
and
adopting
any
final
regulations.
E
Another
part
of
the
gaming
regulatory
structure-
that's
noted
on
page
nine
and
one
that
you
may
not
have
heard
of
is
the
gaming
policy
committee.
This
is
created
this
in
statute
46301.021,
and
it's
it's
a
it's
a
vestige
of
history.
It
it
it
laid
dormant
for
a
long
time
until
governor
sandoval.
He
reinvigorated
it.
He
used
it
in
particular
to
consider
esports
as
a
new
type
of
of
gaming.
E
We
categorized
as
a
as
a
group
esports
that
is
a
regular
agency
at
esports
as
an
other
event,
as
opposed
to
a
sporting
event.
The
benefit
of
that
is
it
didn't
cat.
It's
avoided
catching
the
esports,
at
least
to
this
point
catching
it
up
in
in
the
wire
act,
discussions
that
are
going
on
because
wire
act.
The
wire
act
has
been
clarified
by
one
of
the
circuits
on
the
east
coast
recently
to
apply
only
to
sports
and
information
used
in
the
placement
of
a
of
a
better
wager
in
the
context
of
sports.
E
The
gaming
policy
committee
consists
of
a
member
of
this,
the
assembly
of
the
senate,
an
enrolled
member
of
a
nevada
native
american
tribe,
a
member
of
the
gaming
control
board.
Member
of
the
gaming
commission.
Two
members
of
the
general
public,
two
representatives
of
the
non-restricted
license
licensing
economy,
two
members
of
the
restricted
gaming
licensing
economy
and
one
member
of
academia
with
knowledge
of
gaming
and
getting
gaming
related
items.
Unlv,
as
you
may
know,
has
a
robust
gaming
studies
program,
an
llm.
E
The
policy
committee,
as
I
just
noted,
it
takes
up
big
issues
in
addition
to
esports
governor
sandoval
activated
the
gaming
policy
committee
to
take
on
the
question
of
the
intersection
of
cannabis
or
marijuana
with
gaming,
and,
as
some
of
you
may
know,
I
had
the
my
nickname
last
session
in
the
governor's
office
was
seed
to
sale,
and
that
may
mean
nothing
to
some
of
you
to
to
others.
It
may
mean
something
I
know
to
chairman
yeager.
He
probably
has
some
context.
E
So
the
governor
asked
me
to,
with
my
regulatory
background,
to
stand
up
a
new
agency,
the
the
ccb,
the
cannabis
compliance
board
and
tracking
from
seed
to
sale
through
their
systems.
E
The
growth
that
well,
the
growth
of
marijuana
is
a
is
a
key,
is
a
key
metric
and
and
and
the
intersection
of
something
that
is
federally
illegal
or
at
least
questionably,
illegal
and
on
a
state
basis.
Just
due
to
the
vote
of
the
people,
we'll
call
it
legal,
there's
preemption,
but
none.
Nonetheless,
we
we're
we're
we're
acting
as
though
it's
as,
though
it's
legal.
That
was
a
major
question,
because
early
on
the
strict
regulation
of
gaming
suggests
that
we
should
keep
them
entirely
separate.
E
There
are
some
areas
where
they
they
do
intersect.
However,
for
example,
the
the
the
not
pamphlets
but
the
the
magazines
that
are
placed
for
free
inside
of
the
the
rooms
in
hotels
on
yummy
resort
properties.
They
would
advertise
cannabis
cannabis
licensees,
and
that
was
a
question
open
question
that
governor
governor
sandoval,
considered
on
page
10,
you'll,
we'll
start
going
through
the
the
various
divisions
of
the
gaming
control
board.
The
first
is
the
administration
division.
E
Miss
jamie
black
is
the
she's,
the
chief
of
the
administration
division
and
she
manages
approximately
44
employees.
The
administration
division
is
a
is
tasked
with
a
number
of
different
things
that
they
within
that
division.
We
have
our
hr
function,
our
we
have
a
new
director
of
human
resources.
We
have
all
of
our
training.
We
have
our
accounting
budget
record,
keeping.
E
We
also
have
a
professional
standards
or
internal
affairs
function
that
is
housed
within
the
administration
division
and
so
in
the
context
of
wrongdoing
or
any
kind
of
you
know
any
kind
of
issue
or
problem
with
it.
With
an
agent.
The
internal
affairs
division
would
review
and
investigate
and
adjudicate
that
that
kind
of
issue,
the
board's
economist
and
the
economic
analysis
division
is
also
housed
within
the
administrative
administrative
division
and
michael
lawton
is
currently
in
this
role.
E
It's
a
critical
role,
because
the
the
the
process
or
the
the
function
of
projecting
a
gaming
revenue
is
not
is
not
strictly,
and
I
think
you've
heard
this
from
your
own
analysts.
It's
not
strictly
a
scientific
exercise,
it's
not
just
based
on
stats.
E
It's
it's
also
very
much
a
it's
very
much
an
art
I
mean
one
of
the
questions
right
now
is
to
what
degree
people
are
going
to
return
to
las
vegas
and
nevada
as
a
destination,
insofar
as
habits
have
changed
and
people
are
accustomed
to
going
to
places
closer
to
their
homes,
and
so
mike
lawton
he's.
E
You
know,
part
scientist,
part
part
statistician
and
he's
part
artist
artist,
so
he
provides
to
the
economic
forum
the
gaming
revenue
projections
that
are
critical
to
the
economic
forum's
development
of
a
the
baseline
sort
of
projected
revenue
for
the
state
that
the
governor
then
uses
as
the
foundational
amount
for
his
his
governor's
recommended
budget.
E
In
addition,
mike
lawton,
our
economist,
also
undertakes
special
research
projects
that
my
request
and
other
members
of
the
boards
request
on
page
12,
you'll
you'll
see
the
audit
division.
The
audit
division
is
a
critical,
critical
division.
E
There
are
very
few
agencies
in
government,
especially
regulatory
agencies
that
administer
taxes,
especially
taxes
of
the
of
the
magnitude
that
the
gaming
control
board
administers.
I
noted
at
the
very
beginning
that
our
licensee
are
non-restricted
licenses.
E
Just
one
part
of
our
licensing
sort
of
universe
generates
over
18
billion
dollars
in
revenue
each
year
we
have
a
99
collection
rate
on
our
taxes
and
fees,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
our
audit
division
and
the
fact
that
we
very
strictly
enforce
the
audit
requirements
they
they
operate
on
a
two
to
three
year
cycle,
meaning
that
they
go
through
each
of
the
non-restricted
licensees
group
group.
One
licensees-
and
these
are
the
very
large
casinos
with
revenue,
at
least
in
2019,
the
threshold
for
being
a
group.
E
One
licensee
was
six
and
a
half
million
million
dollars
in
revenue,
and
so
they,
the
audit
division,
does
conduct
on
a
two
to
three
year
cycle:
full
audits
of
each
of
the
non-restricted
licensees.
E
They
also
review
and
and
promulgate
and
enforce
the
minimum
minimum
internal
control
standards,
and
these
are
developed
over
the
years
they're.
For
example,
you
know
how
cash
is
counted,
how
how
counts
take
place
in
count
rooms,
how
it
ships,
how
different,
especially
as
you
have
multi-functional
games,
how
the
revenue
is
recorded.
E
In
addition
to
a
number
of
other
things,
the
primary
objective
of
the
audit
division,
of
course,
is
to
determine
the
proper
reporting
of
gaming
revenue
and
entertainment
entertainment
revenue
and
to
determine
if
the
casino
is
in
compliance
with
the
applicable
laws
and
live
entertainments
regulations
and
laws.
Additionally,
the
division
periodically
forms
cash
develops.
Cash
counts
to
ensure
that
casinos
have
sufficient
funds.
E
So
very
often
casinos
will
they'll
advertise
a
you
know
a
a
progressive
jackpot,
for
example,
and
they
got
we
have
to
make
sure
that
they
audit
will
make
sure
that
they
have
sufficient
cash
on
hand
to
pay
out.
If
that
were
to
come
due
or
to
pay
out
in
an
annuity
or
some
other
form
over
time
it
comes
due.
They
also
analyze
annual
financial
statements.
E
On
page
15
you'll
see
the
enforcement
division
outline.
The
enforcement
division
is
a
unique
division.
One
that's
played
a
critical
role
during
clovid
mike
morton
who's
with
us.
As
I
noted
we'll
discuss
that
role
more
at
the
end
of
the
end
of
my
presentation,
he
is
so
the
chief
of
the
enforcement
division
is
james
taylor
and
he
man
manages
roughly
91
sworn
peace
officers
and
20
29
support
staff
members
in
carson
city,
reno,
elko,
las
vegas
and
la
flat
by
statute.
E
All
all
employees
of
the
nevada
gaming
control
board
are
our
peace
officers.
Our
agency
is
statutorily
a
law
enforcement
agency
as
well
chief
taylor
and
his
enforcement
division
are
unique
in
the
sense
that
he
has
a
large
number
91
post-certified
officers,
and
they
are
many
of
them.
Well,
it's
the
numbers
decreased
over
time,
but
have
been
cross-deputized
with
important
federal
agencies
to
work
on
key
cases.
E
They've
been
cross-deputized
with
fbi,
homeland
security
dea,
and
this
this
this
is
important
because
it
allows
them
to
work
on
high-powered
tasks
for
task
forces
that
look
into
things
like
money
laundering
and
for
those
of
you
who
are
fans
of
netflix.
The
the
show
ozark,
for
example,
gives
you,
and
it
gives
you
sort
of
an
insight
into
the
way
that
casinos
can
be
used
to
launder
money.
E
The
audit
division,
I'm
sorry.
The
enforcement
division
is
also
responsible
for
conducting
criminal
and
regulatory
investigations
and
and
and
for
arbitrating
disputes
between
patrons
and
licensees.
They
are
often
involved
or
called
upon
by
federal
agencies
to
provide
expertise
and
anti-money
laundering
investigations
in
sensitive
cross-jurisdictional
and
federal
state
investigations.
E
In
fact,
their
investigations
range
from
simple
violations
that
may
prompt
a
a
patron
dispute,
where
a
patron
may
believe,
for
example,
that
that
a
device
is
malfunctioned
all
the
way
up
to
the
most
complex
investigations
that
may
involve
the
sec
department
of
justice
may
implicate
the
foreign,
corrupt
practices
act
or
the
bank
secrecy
act,
which
would
then
trigger
the
involvement
of
the
department
of
treasury
and
the
treasury's
financial
crimes
enforcement
network.
E
E
The
enforcement
division
has
a
special
investigations
unit,
the
special
investigations
unit.
I
worked
with
extensively
when
I
was
in
the
ag's
office
and
chief
of
gaming
division.
These
these
individuals
have
individuals
within
this
unit
have
very
particular
particularized
expertise.
They
are.
Some
of
them
are
are
cyber
forensic
experts.
Others
are
experts
in
aml
bank
secrecy
act,
they
interface
and
have
the
trust
of
in
many
cases
of
our
federal
counterparts,
and
so
this
allows
for
information
sharing.
E
Both
back
and
forth,
the
nevada
gaming
control
board
requires
that
licensees
and
employees
follow
not
only
our
own
state
law,
but
also
the
law
of
each
jurisdiction,
that
is
at
the
local,
at
the
regional
and
at
the
federal
level,
and
so
this
foreign
gaming
requirement
is
also
an
item,
an
important
item
that
the
enforcement
division
oversees
and
they
they
receive
reports,
and
they
monitor
closely
any
any
violation
of
foreign
law
which
we
would
then
we
may
then
use
as
a
predicate
to
take
action
against
the
licensee
here
in
nevada.
E
That's
a
statutory
provision
by
the
way,
if
you're
wondering
what
the
fun,
what
would
give
us
sort
of
the
long-arm
reach
to
discipline,
a
licensing
in
nevada
over
a
violation
and
a
federal
of
I'm
sorry
of
of
a
foreign
law?
That's
that's
a
requirement
under
nrs463
on
page
18,
the
investigations
division
is
discussed
and
the
domestic
investigations
division
is
a
crucial
division.
Mike
lobbity
is
chief
of
the
division.
E
He
is
a
30-year
board
employee
and
no
one
knows
more
about
the
whole
corpus
of
gaming
investigations
than
than
chieflovity
does
he
has
a
team
of
roughly
79
individuals.
All
agents
have
college
degrees,
they
have
business
and
financial
backgrounds,
they
conduct
extensive
criminal
justice
and
financial
investigations
into
all
applicants.
E
I
can't
overstate
the
import
importance
of
a
robust
investigations
division.
These
individuals
are
the
ones
who
receive
and
investigate
all
licensees
and
applicants
for
suitability,
suitability,
they
produce
exhaustive
reviews
of
applicants,
personal
backgrounds
and
their
financial
backgrounds.
The
investigations
division
and
its
meticulous
work
is
imperative
to
ensure
nevada
remains
the
international
leader
in
the
gaming
space.
E
What
I
get
I
can
tell
you
is
that
very
often
licensees
they
they're
they're,
familiar
with
the
rigor
of
our
licensing
process
and
so
depending
on
the
strength
or
weakness
of
their
position.
Whether
or
not
they're,
you
know
a
company
or
entity
or
individual
have
individuals
on
their
in
key
employee
positions
that
would
warrant
licensing.
They
may
either
go
either.
E
Mothers
may
or
other
weaker
applicants
may
try
to
run
the
gauntlet
in
weaker
jurisdictions
or
jurisdictions,
with
sort
of
less
less
rigorous
standards
and
collect
those
licenses
I'll
call
it
that
is
get
as
many
as
they
can
and
then
come
to
nevada
and
and
show
us
this.
E
You
know
this
voluminous
number
of
licenses
and
suggest
to
us
that
they
have
the
probity
and
background
to
be
licensed
here
and
that's
not
a
very
persuasive
way
to
do
things,
but
it
is
something
that
that
I've
seen
through
in
through
my
my
tenure
on
the
board,
but
also
in
as
a
gaming
lawyer
and
as
a
member
of
the
ag's
office,
our
investigative
agents,
review
and
analyze
entities
or
activities
of
all
privately
held
companies
seeking
licensure
registration
and
they
produce
comprehensive
background
reports
for
board
members
and
commission
members
for
review.
E
E
E
That
should
give
you
some
insight
into
the
depth
and
breadth
of
the
investigative
review
that
our
investigative
agents
do
it's
it's
it's
an
exhaustive
process,
many
people
who
go
through
it
and
have
been
through
other
processes,
including
backgrounding
for
important.
You
know,
clearance
required
jobs
at
the
federal
level
will
say
that
this
process
is
rigorous
or
more
rigorous
than
any
other
they've
been
through.
E
We,
the
the
investigations
division,
has
offices
in
las
vegas
and
carson
city.
It
includes
an
applicant
services
section
and
the
individuals
in
this
section
they
they
take
in
all
of
the
forms
and
documentation
associated
with
an
application
and
in
many
ways
they
serve
as
the
sort
of
front
line
and
the
liaison
of
our
office
because
they
interact
with
with
the
public
and
with
those
who
are
seeking
licenses
and
findings
of
suitability
from
the
board
and
commission.
E
They
collect
all
fees
associated
with
with
these
applications
and
filings,
they
respond
to
information
requests
and
they
they
they're
in
a
position
to
provide
incredible
information
to
those
seeking
licensure
in
nevada.
E
They
also
respond
to
requests
regarding
those
who've
gone
through
our
process,
so
we
maintain
meticulous
and
exhaustive
records
of
our
licensees
and
applicants
and
jurisdictions
around
the
world.
Will
query
our
agency
asking
for
indicators
of
you,
know
good,
behavior
or
bad
behavior,
and
what
we
think
about
various
applicants
and
members
of
the
investigative
staff
will
respond
to
those
kinds
of
inquiries.
E
Investigators
and
the
investigations.
Division
also
registers
individuals
who,
who
bring
other
individuals
to
nevada
casinos
for
for
what
they
call
junkets
the
junket
pro
the
junket
economy
is
isn't,
is
not
in
its
best
shape.
Right
now
I
mean
there's
very
little
flight
flying
traffic
to
the
gaming
resorts,
but
historically
that's
been
a
big
part
of
the
business.
E
They
also
monitor
the
semi-annual
reports
of
key
employees
submitted
by
the
non-restricted
gaming
licensees.
The
there's
the
corporate
security
section
is
an
important
section
of
the
investigations
division.
E
In
addition
to
having
privately
held
companies,
we
also
have
our
share
of
publicly
traded
companies,
and
these
these
are
companies
that
are
publicly
traded
on
stock
exchanges
throughout
the
world,
including
london
stock
exchange,
nasdaq,
nysc,
tokyo,
stock
stock
exchange.
The
requirement
statute
is
that
the
stock
exchange
is
one
that
has
standards
that
are
more
or
less
similar
to
those
of
the
the
best
ones
in
the
united
states.
So
the
nyse,
for
example,
and.
D
E
These
corporations
file
their
8ks
and
10ks
and
documentation
with
the
with
with
the
sec,
for
example.
Here
in
the
united
states,
the
corporate
securities
section
will
review
those
documents
as
well.
These
investigators
prepare
highly
highly
detailed
reports
used
by
the
board
and
commission
that
assist
us
in
making
licensing,
recommendations
and
decisions.
E
Mr
dan
douglas
is
chief
of
the
tax
tax
and
license
division
and
he
manages
roughly
21
team
members.
This
division
has
a
primary
jurisdiction
over
group
2
licensees,
and
these
are
those
that
would
under
the
2019
thresholds,
would
make
under
have
revenue
under
six
point:
six
and
a
half
million
the.
So
when
I
mentioned
the
audit
division,
the
audit
division
earlier
is
involved
in
auditing
group,
one
casinos,
those
grossing
65
million
and
above
and
then
so
tax
and
licenses
involved
in
auditing.
E
Those
that
are
reviewing
those
that
are
that
have
that
gross
six
and
a
half
six
and
a
half
million
or
less
they're
the
tax
and
license
division
is
also
on
a
two
to
three
year
cycle.
Audit
cycle
tax
and
license
has
three
primary
roles:
they
they
conduct
collections,
they
review
compliance
and
they
they
collect
they
they
of
course
collect
and
deposit
and
distribute
gaming
taxes
and
fees,
and
they
assess
penalties,
interest
and
fines.
E
The
compliance
section
performs
compliance
reviews
of
compliance
plans.
Compliance
plans
are
plans
that
are
put
in
place
to
ensure
that
vendors
have
appropriate
probity
that
that,
in
some
cases,
it's
lawyers
or
outside
counsel
or
people
who
are
hired
in
in
in
non-employee
status,
have
the
you
know
the
kinds
of
people
you'd
want
around
a
gaming
operation.
They
also
reviewed
certain
kinds
of
transactions.
E
E
On
page
23,
you'll
see
a
there's
an
overview
of
the
technology
division
and
the
technology
division
is
overseen
by
mr
jim
barbie.
He
has
roughly
26
employees
who
range
in
background
from
double
e's,
that
is
electrical
engineers
to
auditors,
to
technical
experts,
to
cyber
forensic
experts
and
for
those
of
you
who
may
may
take
a
look
at
your
when
you're
pumping
gas.
I
was
pumping
gas
this
morning,
there's
a
an
insignia
or
an
imprimatur
on
on
the
gas
pump.
E
That
says,
jump
that
historically
acid
has
had
the
name
jim
barbie
on
it
so
attesting
to
the
to
the
accuracy
of
the
of
the
measure
or
of
the
of
the
of
the
pumps
sort
of
you
know
of
its
log
logging
of
the
of
the
gas.
That's
it's
muted
out
this
jim
barbie
is
not
the
same
jim
barbie.
Just
as
an
aside
who
runs
the
technology
division.
E
Jim
is
our
jim
is
a
technologist
of
the
highest
order
himself
and
we're
lucky
to
have
him.
The
technology
division
maintains
gaming
and
a
gaming
and
technology
lab
on
pilot
road
near
the
airport,
where
many
of
nevada's
gaming
manufacturers
are
located.
The
lab
tests,
new
games
and
systems,
it
reviews
all
technology
used
in
gaming
devices,
associated
equipment,
interfacing
systems,
the
back-end
accounting
systems
and
so
on.
The
division
makes
recommendations
to
me
as
chair
for
approximately
two
thousand
yearly,
her
annual
new
and
modified
gaming
device
approvals
and
associated
equipment
approvals.
E
Each
and
this
division
also
assists
technology
innovators.
They
come
into
the
state
to
understand,
what's
required,
to
get
a
device
onto
the
gaming
floor,
but
oftentimes.
This
is
an
eye-opening
process.
It's
not
easy,
but
the
technology
division
is
there
to
assist
and
to
help
and
help
them
understand,
especially
those
who
want
to
make
changes
for
the
better
in
terms
of
innovation.
E
See
here,
the
technology
division
also
serves
as
the
board's
forensic
investigative
unit.
We
I
mean,
as
as
the
world
has
changed
and
gone
from
sort
of
a
paper
world
to
one.
That's,
you
know
lived
on
computers
as
we're
doing
right
now.
E
The
the
ability
to
investigate
through
forensic
analysis
has
become
much
more
important,
especially
in
the
context
of
cyber
security.
So
if
there's
a
hacking
event
or
there's
a
malware
or
there's
a
ransomware
attack
very
often
the
board,
the
board's
forensic
investigative
staff,
which
is
part
of
the
technology
division,
will
be
the
ones
that
work
with
the
fbi's
technologists
in
ascertaining
the
cause
or
the
the
origin
of
the
attack,
but
also
in
reviewing
the
after
action
report
that
we
get
to
determine
whether
or
not
there
was
sufficient.
E
And
again
I
just
want
to
emphasize
the
importance
of
innovation
to
me
and
to
and
new
technology
to
me
and
to
our
board
and
to
the
commission
to
our
staff.
It's
critical
that
we
maintain
and
keep
up
with
the
with
the
with
the
habits
and
with
the
growth
of
new
technologies.
E
I
mean
my
my
children,
who
are
remote
school
right
now
very
often
are
playing
games
with
their
cousins
and
family
members
and
people
in
foreign
countries
at
the
same
time,
and
as
our
habits
change
and
we
move
to
an
online
sort,
well,
a
mixture
of
an
online
and
physical
world.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
our
gaming
industry
keeps
up
and
the
technology
division
is
there
to
assist.
E
If
you
gotta
you've
got
to
develop
internal
control
standards,
security
standards,
you
gotta
ensure
that
as
games
are
offered
in
different
kinds
of
in
different
contexts
that
is
online
or
through
brick
and
mortar
casinos
at
his
physical
games
that
the
revenues
appropriately
reported
and
that
will
always
be
a
primary
goal
of
both
technology
in
reviewing
systems,
especially
accounting
systems,
together
with
the
account
with
the
auditing
department
on
page
25
of
the
document,
there
are
some
key
metrics
and
I'll
go
to
the
document
now
to
pull
it
up,
we'll
go
through
some
of
these
quickly,
so
the
these
are
all.
E
This
is
data
that
that's
as
of
june
30th
2020..
We
had.
We
had
a
total
of,
let's
see
here,
we
had
it.
We
had
a
total
of
461
non-restricted,
that
is
group
1
and
group
2
licensees.
E
We
had
100
and
let's
see
here,
we
had
100
1984,
restricted
licensees,
and
then
we
had
50
slot
route
operators.
We
had
378
manufacturers,
distributors
and
39
other
types
of
licensees.
E
E
E
And
you'll
note
that
we
had
a
total
of
in
nonresistance
non-restricted
locations.
We
had
a
total
of
110
472
devices.
Slot
devices
multi-denominational
devices
were
the
most
popular
in
restricted
locations.
E
We
had
17
618
device
slide
devices
for
a
grand
total
of
120
091
total
slot
devices
below
that
you
can
see
that
the
numbers
and
types
of
of
table
card
and
counter
games
for
a
total
of
4
228
total
other
types
of
games-
page
28,
the
gaming
revenue
numbers,
which
are
interesting,
the
if
you
go
down
to
the
the
second
set
of
numbers
so
fiscal
year
2020
our
total
gaming
win,
so
that
is,
revenue
was
9
billion,
327
965
and
you
can
see
it
broken
out
by
category
slot.
E
Device
device
is
six
billion,
two
hundred
somewhat
thousand
and
a
million,
and
then
you've
got
table
card
encounter
games
at
three
billion,
126
million,
and
so
on
see
what
else
do
we
have
here?
E
You
can
see
it
broken
out
by
county
if
that's
interesting
to
you,
yeah
the
the
final
set
of
numbers,
the
bottom
of
the
page
on
28
is,
I
mean
one
of
the
things
that
I've
noted
in
my
career
is
that
the
I
mean
the
mixture
of
revenue.
It's
it's.
I
mean
it's
growing
for
gaming
licenses,
but
it's
changing
so
you're,
starting
to
see
revenue
come
from
other
places,
so
food
and
beverage
is
a
big
deal.
E
You
see
that
as
a
total
in
fiscal
year,
2020
of
over
four
million
four
and
a
half
million,
roughly
I'm
sorry
billion.
Roughly
you
see
the
the
total
room
take
which
is
4
billion,
719
million
and
then
other
so
the
let's
go
to
page
29
and
discuss
quickly
the
tax
and
license
fee
collection
structure
in
nevada.
E
We
have
a
a
gross
revenue
tax
structure,
that's
graduated!
It's
applied
on
a
monthly
basis,
and
the
way
it
works
is
that
for
the
the
first
three
for
the
first
fifty
thousand
dollars
of
gross
gaming
revenue,
the
tax
is
three
and
a
half
percent.
E
Beyond
that,
on
the
next
eighty
four
thousand
dollars,
the
taxes
is
an
additional
four
and
a
half
percent
beyond
that.
E
For
for
revenue
that
exceed
the
the
below,
that
is
what
is
134
000
for
anything
above
that
you've
got
6.75
percent
is
the
is
the
highest
rate
of
gross
gaming
revenue
tax,
that's
applied,
so
we
we
collect
annual
and
quarterly
taxes
on
each
gaming
device
and
table
games,
so
there's
gross
gaming
tax,
which
is
one
kind
of
tax
and
the
majority
of
the
tax
that
makes
up
the
roughly
40
or
36
percent
of
general
fund.
E
But
you
also
have
device
taxes
that
are
levied,
and
then
you
have
restricted
gaming
locations
that
pay
annual
and
quarterly
taxes.
E
According
to
the
schedules
outlined
there,
so
annual
fees
of
250
dollars
per
slot
and
then
quarterly
fees,
81
per
slot
for
the
first
five
slot
devices
plus
and
so
on,
see
on
page
30,
there's
an
additional
breakout
of
of
collections
statewide,
and
then
we
have
the
different
kinds
of
taxes
over
a
five-year
period
below
that
is
the
percentage
fees,
entertainment
tax
that
is
led,
live
entertainment
tax,
which
is
contained
in
nrs
368-a.
E
It
was
restructured,
as
you
may
know,
a
few
years
ago,
so
it's
a
different
tax
than
it
was
historically
and
then
on
page
31.
I
just
draw
your
attention
to
the
way
that
the
tax
tax
collections
are
distributed
at
least
historically
this
this
year,
fiscal
year,
2020
was
an
anomalous
year,
of
course,
and
it's
different,
but
in
2019
let's
say:
2019
is
a
standard
year.
You'd
have
you
know
general
fund
monies
of
874
billion,
129
million
and
so
on
a
billion.
E
These
are
aggregated
over
statewide
over
the
state
and
with
that
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
to
mr
michael
morton
to
discuss
some
of
the
board's
efforts
over
the
past
year,
which
have
gone
far
beyond
just
traditional
gaming
regulation.
A
Thank
you,
mr
gibson,
and
mr
morton
good
to
see
you
again
in
the
committee
and
when
you're
ready.
Please
go
ahead.
F
Here
good
morning,
committee
members
mike
morton
with
the
gaming
control
board
for
the
record,
while
the
gaming
control
board's
presentation
of
its
operational
overview
to
this
committee
has
remained
consistent
over
recent
sessions.
This
past
legislative
interim
obviously
tested
the
medal
of
the
board
in
the
state
of
nevada
as
a
whole.
F
The
board's
executive
offices
and
administration
division
really
shifted
into
overdrive
to
help
the
state
get
a
handle
on
covet
19.,
the
chair
of
the
board
at
the
time
sandra
douglas
morgan,
aided
the
governor's
covet
19
response
relief
and
recovery
task
force
in
acquiring
ppe
from
across
the
globe,
so
that
nevada's
frontline
healthcare
professionals
could
continue
doing
the
unbelievable
and
amazing
work
that
they
were
doing
in
the
spring
of
2020
and
are
still
doing
today
full
on.
Knowing
that
the
gaming
industry
would
reopen
at
some
point.
F
The
board
was
acutely
aware
that
it
had
to
be
prepared
for
licensees
that
wanted
to
reopen
quickly
board
numbers.
Terry
johnson
and
phil
katzeros
issued
policy
memoranda
to
various
types
of
licensees
that
created
regulatory
efficiencies
for
the
industry
to
resume
operations
when
it
was
allowed
to
do
so.
F
F
Once
june,
4th
2020
was
announced
as
the
date
that
gaming
operations
could
resume
the
board's
audit
and
tax
and
license
divisions
led
by
chiefs
kelly
colvin
and
dan
douglas
reviewed
and
approved.
The
health
and
safety
plan
submitted
by
all
of
the
board's
458
non-restricted
licensees,
ensuring
that
the
industry
had
the
mitigation
measures
in
place
to
protect
the
public
upon
reopening
with
all
reopening
plans
approved
and
june
4th
upon
us.
F
The
enforcement
division
under
the
direction
of
chief
james
taylor
implemented
a
concerted
push
to
inspect
all
of
the
board's
2900
licensees,
both
non-restricted
and
restricted,
to
ensure
compliance
with
the
board's
health
and
safety
policies.
Investigations
chief
mike
lobbidy
and
technology
chief,
jim
barbie,
provided
agents
to
the
enforcement
division
to
conduct
these
initial
crucial
inspections.
A
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
morton,
I
did
want
to
ask
you
if
you
could,
when
you
have
a
moment
forward,
those
slides
that
you
used
to
our
committee
manager
we'll
make
sure
that
those
get
up
on
nellis
for
the
public
to
view
I
don't
think
they're
up
there
quite
yet.
A
I
did
want
to
note
before
questions
that
assemblyman
orrin
licker
has
joined
us
some
time
ago.
So,
mr
secretary,
if
you
could
please
mark
him
present,
I
would
appreciate
it
committee.
I
know
that
was
a
lengthy
presentation,
but
I
I
wanted
you
all
to
hear
about
our
gaming
industry.
It's
obviously
vitally
important
in
our
state.
We
have
gaming
all
the
way
from
laughlin
to
garbage
at
outside,
in
which,
if
you
haven't
been
up
to
jarbidge,
I
recommend
you
get
up
there.
I
believe
it's
an
assemblywoman,
hansen's
district,
fantastic
food
and
a
small
tavern.
A
E
Chairman,
yes,
please
go
ahead.
I
wanted
to
just
break
some
news
for
you
to
your
committee,
so
we
normally
prior
to
today,
we
issue
a
release
that
that
talks
about
the
amount
of
money
that
was
wagered
on
the
super
bowl.
So
just
now,
we
just
issued
a
release
that
showed
that
we
that
are
for
nevada's
184
sportsbooks.
E
We
had
we
had
a
total
of
of
we
had
a
total
of
you
know
a
wagering
amount
of
136.1
million
dollars.
So
that's
the
handle.
That's
a
significant
amount.
We
had.
We
had
a
whole
percentage
of
nine
point,
two
percent,
which
is
not
bad
so
in
all
a
very
good
night,
especially
given
the
fact
that
we
had
25
capacity
restrictions
and
so
on.
So
that's
something
to
be
proud
of.
A
Thank
you
for
sharing
that,
mr
gibson.
That
was
actually
on
my
list
of
questions.
We
we
mentioned
that
in
the
in
the
revenue
committee
the
other
day
about
you
know
what
those
numbers
would
look
like
and
best.
I
could
tell
flying
into
las
vegas
on
friday
it
seemed
there
was
a
lot
of
excitement
in
the
air
for
the
big
game.
So
that's
that
is,
that
is
good
to
hear
and
I'm
not
going
to
reveal
which
side
of
that
super
bowl.
I
was
on
in
the
interest
of
confidentiality.
A
So
let's,
let's
see
a
show
of
hands
again.
If
members
have
questions
okay,
I
think
I've
got
everybody
for
the
moment.
So
here's
the
order
we're
going
to
go
in
right
now
and
if
you
have
additional
questions
we
can
take
them,
but
we'll
start
with
vice
chair.
When
then
we're
going
to
go
to
assemblywoman,
kasama
and
then
assemblywoman
cohen.
So
please
kick
us
off
ice
chair,
win.
C
Thank
you
for
that.
Hopefully,
our
chair
was
contributing
to
our
economic
situation.
Here.
Thank
you
for
your
presentation,
mr
gibson.
I
I
know
that
you
have
more
institutional
knowledge
than
most
of
us
all
of
us
combined
so,
and
I
also
appreciate
that
you
have
a
very
unique
perspective.
E
Yeah,
well
I
mean
it's
a
wonderful
question,
so
thank
you
from
miss
wayne.
It's
wonderful!
It's
good
to
see
you
again,
but
what
I'd
say
is
that
I
mean
so
from
the
time
of
grand
soy
you're
on.
E
You
may
recall
that
there
was
the
keith
of
our
kiefer
father
commission
that,
and
there
was
the
bobby
kennedy
regime
that
threatened
to
come
in
and
essentially
take
over
the
gaming
industry
because
of
the
infiltration
of
organized
crime
and
so
grant
sawyer.
E
What
grant
sawyer
did
was
he
he
preempted
that
move
by
ensuring
that
nevada
had
the
strictest
regulatory
structure
in
the
world,
and
so
our
our
goal
in
in
both
cases
in
in
in
the
case
with
chairman
jaeger,
is
my
my
partner
in
crime,
or
you
know
my
person
in
the
foxhole
with
me.
We,
we
brought
the
cannabis
compliance
board
bill
last
session
with
in
an
attempt
to
create
not
an
overly,
not
not
a
an
overly
heavy
structure
for
cannabis.
E
It's
a
very
different
industry
with
margins
that
are
very
different,
but
one
that
would
be
seen
by
the
by
the
federal
government
as
sufficiently
safe
and
protective
that
they
had
no
need
to
intervene.
So
that's
that's
the
way
that
we
manage
the
federal
government.
We
try
to
do
such
a
good
job
that
they
don't
want
to
intervene.
That's
that's
what
I'd
say
about
this:
the
state
federal
relationship
and
some
of
these
difficult
spaces
that
we
operate
in
with
regard
to
cooperation
between
the
industries.
E
They
are
at
a
taunt.
I
would
say
right
now:
I
I
I
don't,
there's
no
hostilities
there
there.
I
don't!
I
don't
believe
there
are
any
attempts
by
other
parties
either
party
to
go
after
the
other.
E
As
you
may
recall,
last
session,
the
cannabis
compliance
board
bill
ultimately
included
a
setback
provision
for
cannabis,
and
the
reason
for
that
was
that-
and
there
were
key
people
that
I
don't
want
to
name
just
for
purposes
confidentiality,
but
they
were
concerned
about
what
I'd
call
the
100
billion
dollar,
brick
and
mortar
investment
on
the
strip
and
and
the
way
that
people
coming
into
nevada.
That
may
not
be
accustomed
to
the
smell
of
cannabis,
might
react
to
the
permeation
of
that
smell
throughout
that
brick
and
mortar
structure.
E
So
that
was
a
reason
for
the
setback
now,
so
they
they
coexist
and
they
code
this.
Well,
I
mean
I'm,
I'm
actually,
I'm
actually
I'm
shocked
at
how
well
the
last
two
years
have
gone.
In
many
cases,
there's
been
cooperation
on
the
back
end,
that
is,
investigative
resources.
E
Actually,
chair
morgan,
my
my
dear
friends
stole
one
of
the
stole
she
borrowed
and
then
permanently
employed,
one
of
our
key
special
agents
who
had
unique
talents
and
had
special
relationships
with
the
federal
government.
So
we've
been,
the
gaming
control
board
has
been
very
cooperative
with
the
cannabis
compliance
board,
as
they've
got
gotten
up
and
running
under
tyler
clemens's
leadership
and
now
under
dennis
nylander
and
former
chief
judge
chief
justice
douglas.
So
there's
lots
of
cooperation
on
the
regulatory
front
and
within
the
structure
and
the
industries
themselves
coexist.
I
think
peacefully.
E
Very
soon
I
did
just
to
go
further.
If
I
I
know
you're,
I
know
what
you're
asking
and
I
I
I'm
I
I
intentionally
sort
of
stopped
short
because
I
I
don't
want
to
predict
and
be
you
know
totally
wrong.
I
I
am
occasionally
wrong
are
often
wrong,
as
my
wife
tells
me.
E
So
what
I
would
say
is
that,
with
the
the
makeup
of
the
current
federal
administration
and
the
congress,
I
don't
I
mean
I
expect
that
at
some
point
relatively
soon
there
will
be
changes
in
scheduling,
and
so
with
that
I
think
that
we'll
see
a
lot
more
cooperation
until
until
the
there's
at
least
some
movement.
On
that
front,
I
would
encourage
gaming
licensees
to
maintain
their
adherence
to
law
to
the
current
law,
and
that
is
you
know,
let's,
let's
keep
these
two
industries
separate
for
now.
E
C
Thank
you
for
that
information.
I
know
that
you
know
it's
ever-changing
and
it's
pretty
dynamic
right
now,
but
it
seems
like
they
should
coexist
and
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity
for
growth
in
both
of
those
industries
in
our
state.
But
thank
you.
Thank
you.
B
Yes,
thank
you
assemblywoman,
heidi
kasama,
for
district
2..
Thank
you
here,
gibson
for
that
great
overview
again.
So
my
question,
I
think,
is
fairly
simple
on
your
presentation
on
page
25,
where
you
had
selected
data
and
information
under
the
gaming
licenses,
and
I
may
have
missed
it.
You
may
have
said
it.
There's
a
non-restricted
group
one
and
a
non-restricted
group
too.
I'm
just
wondering
what
the
difference
is.
E
It's
it's
based
in
amount,
it's
based
in
it's
based
on
growth
revenue.
So
it's
that's
the
only
difference,
and
so
I
mean
what
I
mean
functionally.
I
don't
have
the
current
numbers,
the
current
threshold
number
they
change
by
cpi.
As
of
2019.
When
ms
douglas
morgan
made
this
presentation,
it
was
six
and
a
half
million
dollars
was
the
ingross
revenue
over.
It
must
have
been
a
quarter
or
maybe
a
month.
E
It's
it's
a
limited
period
of
time,
but
it's
a
it's
a
threshold
amount
and
it
was
six
and
a
half
million
dollars
at
that
point.
So
anything
above
would
put
you
in
group,
one
in
group,
one
anything
below
group
two
and
and
what
that
means,
as
a
practical
matter
is
that
the
auditing
functions
are
more
significant
in
depth.
The
minimum
internal
control
control
standards
are
different,
more
rigorous,
more
robust.
A
Okay,
let's
go
next
to
assemblywoman
cohen!
Please.
B
Thank
you
chair.
Thank
you
both
for
the
presentations.
My
question
is
on
page
29
the
taxes
and
license
fee
collections,
and
it's
the
last
paragraph
is
pursuant
to
the
nevada
gaming
control
act.
The
failure
to
pay
such
taxes
within
30
days
will
automatically
result
in
the
surrender
of
the
gaming
license
and
require
immediate
closure
of
the
gaming
operations,
and
I
just
find
that
paragraph
fascinating,
so
that
30-day
time
frame
seems
kind
of
short.
But
more
than
that,
can
you
just
address.
I
I
don't
even
know
what
my
question
is.
B
Can
you
just
give
me
some
more
information
about
that
or
about
that
time
frame
and
and
how?
How
that's?
How
that
com,
how
how
compliance
is
working
with
that
and
and
what
happens
if
there's
a
bad
month,
and
you
need
more
time,
yeah.
E
And
so
it's
a
wonderful
question
and
it's
good
to
see
you
going
yes,
it's
strictly
administered
and
and
the
difficulty
that
we
have
is
that
even
with
govid
there,
it's
the
the
license
becomes
void
if
it's
not
activated
or
if
these
are
not
paid
and
so
or
or
surrendered.
And
so
these
are
things
that
we
can't
get
around.
We
don't
have
a
discretion
to
make
any
changes
in
that.
E
I
think
that
you
know
I
mean
certain
licensees
have
struggled,
there's
no
question
about
that,
but
the
major
ones
have
been
able
to
make
their
debt
payments
they've
gone
back
to
the
markets
and
they've
been
able
to
find
additional
investors,
they've,
spun
off
property
into
reit
structures,
and
so
they've
been
very
good
at
actually,
you
know
lightening
their
balance,
their
their
overall
debt
load
and
finding
additional
capital
to
operate,
and
so
they've
been
making
their
payments.
That
has
not
become
a
problem
for
us
at
all,
actually,
which
is
good.
E
I
mean
this:
is
you
know,
as
you
know,
almost
30
40
percent
of
your
general
fund,
and
so
I
think
it's
crucial
that
we
do
collect
all
the
taxes
that
we
possibly
can.
Although
I'm
I'm
sympathetic
to
the
difficulty
and
meeting
these
requirements
under
this,
you
know
under
the
current
conditions
as
well.
I
understand
that.
B
Okay,
so
so
thank
you
and
I
appreciate
you
giving
the
details
about
how
some
of
the
bigger
players
are
finding
the
funds
and
what
they're
doing
to
obtain
them,
but
so,
if,
if
we
go
back
to
the
the
restricted
you
know
small
restricted
licensee
like
in
in
garbage,
if
they
have
trouble,
is
it
you
know,
find
the
money
or
you're?
Even
if
you
have
what
is
it
you
know?
Even
if
you
have
tens
lots,
it's
fine,
the
money
or
the
license
is
pulled.
E
E
We
had
a
situation
just
recently,
I'll
just
note
that,
where
we
had
a
an
operator,
a
well-known
operator
who
failed
to
make
payment
for
a
variety
of
reasons,
but
for
a
a
pair
mutual
operators
license
we'll
call
it
and
that's
the
terminology
that
we
use
for
for
this
kind
of
license
and
the
it
was.
He
was
a
day
late
and
we
tried
to
find
every
possible
way
to.
You
know,
extend
the
time
and
do
everything
we
could,
but
ultimately,
under
the
law
and
according
to
our
attorney,
our
our
deputy's
attorney
general.
E
We
could
not,
and
so
the
license
was
void
just
as
a
matter
of
law
and
that
and
that
person
had
to
go
back
to
the
licensing
process.
Now
the
documentation
was
the
same
and
we
were
able
to
get
it
on
an
agenda
within
a
month
or
a
month
and
a
half
roughly.
But
it
was
on
the
february
agenda,
but
that
does
happen
occasionally,
but
candidly
I
haven't
seen
many
surrenders
or
dissolutions
or
remittances
of
licenses
from
restricted
licensees.
E
I
think
I
know
they're
struggling
and
I'm
you
know
hopeful
that
we
can
get
covered
under
control
soon
and
we
can
have
some
reopening,
but
it
is
it's
not
it's
not
something
that
I,
the
licensed
part
of
the
the
operations
of
restricted
these
taverns,
for
example,
and
bars.
That's
not
the
part
that
I've
heard
is
that
is,
is
we're
not
seeing
licenses
go
away
in
that
context,.
A
Thank
you,
okay,
and
before
I
get
to
additional
questions,
I
want
to
admit
that
I
was
incorrect
on
the
record
as
well,
and
I
mentioned
jarbidge,
and
I
mentioned
it
was
an
assemblywoman
hansen's
district.
That's
incorrect.
It's
assemblyman,
ellison's
district,
it's
in
elko
county.
So
if
you're
an
assemblywoman
hanson's
district,
you
might
want
to
try
the
owl
club
in
lander
county
or
the
dinky
diner
and
esmeralda
county.
Those
are
two
great
spots,
so
just
didn't
want
to
let
that
stand
him.
Misinformation
stand
on
the
record.
Do
we
have
additional
questions?
A
A
I've
always
believed
that
in
this
committee
we
should
probably
get
continuing
legal
education
credits
for
the
attorneys
and
those
who
are
watching
because
we
delve
into
a
lot
of
legal
issues.
You
touched
briefly
on
the
wire
act
and
there's
been
some
action
on
that
and
I
just
wondered
if
you
could
give
us
a
just
a
super
quick
summary
on
you
know,
sort
of
what
this
recent
sort
of,
I
guess
questioning
and
then
reinterpretation
and
then
another
reinterpretation.
A
What
exactly
that
has
meant
for
nevada
in
the
world
of,
I
guess
online
gaming,
and
you
know
to
the
extent
you
can
look
into
a
crystal
ball,
whether
you
think
we're
going
to
have
any
issues
into
the
future
with
the
federal
the
interpretation
of
the
wire
act.
E
Well,
thank
you
for
that
question
chairman.
That's
that's
actually
a
great
question,
it's
something
that
I
mean.
The
wire
act
is
something
I've
followed
for
for
years
and
something
that
I
have
you
know
personal
interest
in
so
I
mean
just
to
back
up.
So
it's
we're
talking
about
the
federal
wire
act
of
1961..
E
It
was
part
of
that
was
a
bobby
kennedy
sponsored
or
a
package.
It
was.
It
was
part
of
a
a
bill
package
that
bobby
kennedy
put
forward.
There
are
other
parts
of
that
of
that
bill
package
that
are
still
in
place
today
as
well.
It
was
the
intent
of
the
whole
package
was
to
fight
organized
crime.
Now
fast
it
was
what
they
were
trying
to
do.
There
was
they
were
trying
to
stop
the
transmission
of
information
used
in
the
placements
of
better
wagers,
and
there
are
various
clauses
to
that
section
to
that
statutory
provision.
E
Now
what
happened
prior
to
the
first
prior
to
the
reinterpretation
was
there
was
muddy
water.
It
was
not
clear,
I
don't
I
my
sense
as
a
lawyer
in
the
space
was
that
there
were.
There
was
hesitancy
on
the
part
of
licensees
to
to
jump
into
the
online
full
gambling
space
because
they
were
concerned
that
there
might
be
some
kind
of
enforcement
action
by
doj
in
particular,
and
and
so
it
wasn't,
a
clear
space
enter
the
department
of
justice.
You
had
an
opinion
first
from
the
office
of
legal
counsel.
E
That
suggested
one
thing.
Then
he
had
a
reinterpretation
that
modif
that
really
expanded
what
I
would
call
expanded
the
scope
of
the
wire
act
to
apply
to
anything
offered
over
the
wire
and
wires
wire
communication.
Telecommunications
facilities
is
a
very
broad
term
in
federal
law
and
again
it
definitely
includes
the
internet.
So
it's
not
just
a
physical
wire,
and
with
that
interpretation
you
basically
have
interest
rate
operations
of
you
know
not
just
sports
and
sports
wagering,
but
always
that's
operated
over.
You
know
any
kind
of
wire.
It
cannot
be
interesting.
E
That
was
the
reason
originally
for
our
for
our
compact,
our
poker
compact.
You
may
be
familiar
with
that.
We
have
some
of
the
eastern
seaboard
states
now,
with
the
reinterpret
with
the
well,
with
the
reinterpretation
it
was
challenged.
It
was
taken
up
first
by
a
federal
court,
and
then
it
was
appealed
to
a
circuit
court.
E
The
circuit
court
decided
that
it
the
opinion
that
the
reinterpretation
was
incorrect
and
that
the
the
the
accurate
reading
of
the
wire
act
is
to
limit
it
limit
the
the
restriction
on
the
placement
of
better
wagers
to
those
that
are
in
the
context
of
sports.
Only
now,
what
that
will
do
is
limit
sports
wagering
to
states
right.
So
you
have
state-by-state
regimes
for
regulating
sports
wagering,
but
it
will
open
up
other
kinds
of
gambling.
E
So,
as
you
know,
chairman
jaeger,
there
have
been
attempts
by
this
body,
the
people's
body
to
pass
internet
gaming
laws,
and
there
have
been
various
iterations
that
have
essentially
done
the
same
thing,
but
we've
never
been
able
to
get
it
off
the
ground.
We've
had
licenses
issued
as
a
matter
of
fact,
but
there's
been
hesitancy
to
actually
operate
and
function
across
state
lines
because
of
the
lack
of
clarity
or
opacity
of
the
of
the
wire
act
and
how
it
might
be
interpreted
by
a
department
of
justice.
E
Given
a
certain
you
know,
president
or
a
certain
attorney
general
at
this
point,
I
think
it's
cl
it's
much
much
clearer
than
it's
ever
been
now
the
one
the
one
piece.
One
item
that
I
would
love
to
see
is
I'd
love
to
see:
merrick
garland,
you
know
issue
a
letter
saying
we're
not
going
to
appeal
or
or
see
cert
from
the
u.s
supreme
court,
but
even
absent
that
I
don't
believe
he
will.
E
I
I'm
this
is
me
predicting
I
he
could,
but
I
don't
believe
he
will
and
with
that,
with,
with
that
circuit
judgment
standing,
we
have
significant
clarity
on
the
wire
act
as
applying
to
sports
alone
and
that
hope
that
allows
a
state
like
nevada
to
have
online
full
casino,
wagering.
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
that.
Mr
gibson.
I
I
think
the
wire
act
is
a
fascinating
issue
and
of
course
you
know,
congress
could
just
come
in
and
clean
that
up
for
us,
but
that
would
be
too
easy,
so
we'll
just
rely
rely
on
court
interpretations
of
the
department
of
justice,
but
I
I
appreciate
that
information,
so
one
last
call
for
any
other
questions
that
might
be
out
there.
A
Okay,
I
don't
see
anyone,
mr
gibson,
mr
morton.
I
want
to
thank
you
guys
so
much
for
being
here
spending
about
an
hour
and
a
half
with
us
on
your
tuesday
morning.
I
suspect
we're
going
to
see
you
in
the
committee
at
various
times
throughout
this
session.
I
don't
think
we
have
a
lot
of
gaming
legislation,
but
we
certainly
have
some
so
appreciate
the
overview
and
appreciate
you
being
willing
to
work
with
us
throughout
this
session.
So
thanks
for
being
here
and
have
a
great.
A
Okay
committee,
so
we're
going
to
close
that
agenda
item
and
I
would
commend
to
to
the
committee.
A
I
don't
know
if
you
had
a
chance
to
look,
but
at
the
end
of
the
written
presentation
that
was
presented,
there
was
a
good
contact
information
for
folks
over
at
the
the
gaming
control
board,
as
well
as
resources,
so
in
that
free
time
that
none
of
us
have,
if
you're
interested
in
in
reading
some
other
articles
about
gaming,
there's
some
really
good
resources
there.
A
At
this
time,
I'm
going
to
move
on
to
our
next
presentation
on
the
agenda,
and
that
is
an
overview
of
clark,
county
and
washoe
county
offices
of
the
district
attorney.
I
want
to
thank
mr
jones
and
miss
noble
for
your
patience
this
morning
in
waiting
for
your
turn-
and
you
know
just
let
the
committee
know
that
both
of
these
individuals
are
deputy
district
attorneys,
we're
going
to
be
seeing
a
lot
of
them
in
the
committee
as
we
tackle
criminal
justice
issues.
A
This
session
and
I've
had
the
pleasure
of
working
with
mr
jones
for
several
years
now
and
miss
noble
as
well,
so
they
have
likewise.
Like
we've
been
doing,
they
have
a
presentation
to
give
us
as
well.
You
can
find
that
on
nellis
and
follow
along
and
we'll
let
them
get
through
the
presentation
and
then
we'll
open
it
up
for
any
questions.
So
welcome
to
the
committee
for
the
first
time
mr
jones
and
miss
noble
and
please
proceed
when
you're
ready.
G
Thank
you,
chairman
yeager
members
of
the
committee.
My
name
is
jon
jones,
I'm
a
chief
deputy
district
attorney
in
the
clark
county
district
attorney's
office.
I've
been
with
the
office
almost
at
15
years
now
and
have
served
in
both
the
juvenile
and
criminal
divisions
of
the
office.
In
addition
to
being
a
full-time
deputy
d.a.
I
also
am
the
legislative
liaison
for
d.a,
steve
wolfson
and
the
clark
county
district
attorney's
office
and,
as
a
chairman,
yeager
indicated,
joining
me
for
this
presentation
is
chief
deputy
district
attorney.
G
G
G
So
this
is
my
sixth
session
representing
the
da's
and
it's
jenny's.
Third,
and
just
so
you
know,
you
won't
always
see
each
of
us
testifying
on
various
bills.
Generally,
we
only
send
one
representative
for
da's,
so
if
you
don't
see
both
of
us
just
know
that
generally
one
speaks
for
the
other
during
the
legislative
session.
G
G
The
question
we're
sort
of
here
today
is
asked:
is
you
know
what
does
a
district
attorney?
Do?
There's
been
a
lot
of
attention
recently
on
district
attorneys
and
the
role
specifically
that
prosecutors
play
in
the
criminal
justice
system
and
jenny,
and
I
are
here
today
to
share
with
you
the
ways
in
which
prosecutors
in
nevada
have
been
updating
their
approach
to
prosecution.
In
recent
years
we
have
been
in
participants
in
virtually
every
major
piece
of
criminal
justice
legislation
and
criminal
justice
reform
projects
that
we've
seen
around
the
state.
G
Now
that
doesn't
mean
we
agree
with
all
of
the
reform
that's
taken
place,
but
we
have
been
active
participants
and
I
would
suggest
that
we've
earnestly
worked
towards
finding
solutions
that
meet
our
goal
of
committing
to
a
more
equitable
criminal
justice
system
that
benefits
all
of
us,
I'm
reminded
of
the
narrator
at
the
beginning
of
law
and
order.
They
talk
about
the
people
being
represented
by
two
equal,
yet
important
groups
that
being
the
police
who
investigate
crimes
and
the
district
attorneys
who
prosecute
them.
G
We
handle,
in
addition
to
all
misdemeanor
crimes
that
occur
in
a
county
jurisdiction,
so
everything
but
city
jurisdiction,
which
misdemeanors
are
handled
by
city
attorney's
offices.
We
handle
virtually
all
gross
misdemeanor
and
felony
cases
that
occur
in
a
county,
with
the
few
exceptions
of
cases
that
the
attorney
general
has
jurisdiction
of
and
I
believe
their
office
has
presented
or
will
present
to
you
soon.
Additionally,
we
handle
juvenile
cases.
G
G
The
office
sizes
are
very
drastically
in
some
offices,
there's
only
one
attorney
and
that's
the
elected
district
attorney,
whereas
in
clark
county
we're
one
of
the
largest
prosecuting
agencies
in
the
nation,
and
it's
something
that
I
think
jenny
and
I
will
be
reminding
you
of
as
we
go
through
session,
that
what
works
in
clark
and
what
works
in
washoe
may
not
work
in
some
of
these
rural
jurisdictions.
So
we
have
to
be
mindful
of
that
when
we're
making
legislation
that
will
impact
all
of
these
counties.
G
Specifically,
when
talking
about
the
clark
county
district
attorney's
office,
we
have
five
major
divisions,
the
first
of
which
is
our
administrative
division,
which
constitutes
basically
the
things
that
make
our
our
office
work,
but
specifically,
it
houses
our
victim,
witness
center
and
jenny's
going
to
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
more
about
victim
services
that
we
provide
and
that's
handled
through
the
clark
county
district
offices,
administrative
division.
Specifically,
we
have
four
other
divisions,
including
our
civil
division,
which
is
led
by
mary
ann
miller.
G
She
is
the
county
council
for
clark
county
and
she
provides
legal
advice
to
the
county
commissioners
and
agencies
within
clark
county.
The
juvenile
division
is
led
by
bridget
duffy.
Many
of
you
have
worked
with
bridgette
on
various
issues
and
she
will
be
a
regular
presence
at
the
legislature
working
on
bills
that
affect
children
in
clark
county.
The
juvenile
division
in
our
office
contains
both
the
juvenile
delinquency,
division
and
the
child
welfare
division,
so
both
of
those
are
supervised
by
bridget
duffy.
G
We
also
have
a
family
support,
division
and
family
support
is
surprising
for
some
people
to
know
that
that's
the
largest
off
office
or
excuse
me
division
in
the
clark
county,
da's
office
in
terms
of
number
of
employees
in
total.
My
office
has
about
175
attorneys,
that's
approximate,
because
any
given
time
vacancies
could
reduce
that
number
about
125
of
those
attorneys
are
in
the
criminal
division.
Around
30
are
in
our
juvenile
division
and
the
remainder
are
spread
throughout
civil
and
child
support.
G
This
is
the
breakdown
of
the
clark
county
district
attorney's
office,
criminal
division.
We
have
two
assistant
district
attorneys
under
the
leadership
of
district
attorney
wolfson
and
they
both
supervise
various
specialty
units
in
our
office.
Some
prosecutions
require
a
special
skill
set
or
knowledge
base,
so
we
assign
prosecutors
to
handle
solely
those
types
of
cases.
Some
examples
are
homicides,
gun
crimes.
Those
are
generally
robberies:
robbery,
sprees
that
involve
firearms
special
victims
unit,
which
is
a
special
unit
that
prosecutes
sexual
assault
cases
or
cases
where
children
are
the
victim
of
a
sexual
assault
or
physical
abuse.
G
We
also
have
a
gang
unit
that
prosecutes
gang
offenders
and
our
haida
high
intensity,
drug
trafficking
area,
it's
a
collaboration
between
federal
state
and
local
prosecutors
and
law
enforcement,
and
our
we
have
a
specialized
unit
that
handles
those
drug
trafficking
cases
within
our
office.
Finally,
I
want
to
point
out
our
financial
crimes
and
elder
abuse
unit.
This
is
a
specialized
unit.
D.A
wolfson
started
a
couple
years
back
due
to
our
significant
elder
abuse
cases
and
major
fraud
cases
that
we
have
so
with
that,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
jenny.
H
Thank
you
john
good
morning,
everyone.
So
the
washoe
county
district
attorney's
office
is
about
in
terms
of
attorneys
about
half
the
size
of
the
clark
county
district
attorney's
office.
We
have
68,
I
think
current
attorneys
and
of
course
we
are
led
by
district
attorney
hicks.
Our
assistant
district
attorney
in
the
criminal
division
is
zach
young
and
our
civil
assistant
district
attorney
is
david
watts.
Bial.
H
Our
structure
is
a
little
bit
different.
We
have
three
general
felony
teams,
we
have
a
misdemeanor
team
traffic
team
and
we
have
a
team
dedicated
only
two
specialty
court
programs.
H
We've
got
a
major
violators
unit
juvenile
team,
and
then
we
also
have
a
team
that
works
only
at
our
cac,
which
is
a
child
advocacy
center.
So
we
have
three
prosecutors
dedicated
to
that
facility.
H
We
have
the
appellate
division,
of
course,
which
I
head
up
at
this
time,
and
we
also
have
our
conviction,
integrity
committee.
We've
got
investigation,
divisions
victim,
witness
assistance
center,
that's
all
similar
to
clark,
but,
as
you
can
see,
oh,
I
see
there's
a
question
about
contact
info.
Of
course,
I
will
provide
that
so
anyway,
we
have
basically
the
same
types
of
services,
but
our
layouts
just
a
little
bit
different
next
slide.
H
Please
so
in
doing
our
jobs,
we're
trying
to
focus
on
what
we
call
the
three
ps,
which
is
protecting
victims
prosecuting
our
cases
to
the
best
of
our
ability
and
promoting
justice
in
our
in
our
community,
and
that
doesn't
always
mean
putting
someone
in
prison
for
a
long
time
or
always
arguing
for
jail
as
we'll
talk
about
later
on,
da's
are
working
with
our
specialty
courts
and
our
judges
and
defense
attorneys
to
find
other
solutions
to
folks
who
come
into
contact
with
the
criminal
justice
system,
because
they
have
a
mental
health
issue
because
they
have
struggles
with
substance,
abuse
or
other
issues
in
their
life
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
in
a
little
bit
next
slide,
please
so
one
big
part
of
what
we
do
are
victim
services,
and
we
could
not
do
that
without
our
community
partners.
H
We
also
make
sure
that
we're
not
only
protecting
the
defendant's
constitutional
rights
which
we
are
obligated
to
do,
but
also
the
victims
constitutional
rights.
H
H
Let
alone
testify
in
front
of
a
cord
in
front
of
a
preliminary
hearing,
judge
in
front
of
a
jury,
and
so
our
advocates
are
trained
to
help
them
understand
the
system
go
with
them
to
court,
help
them
be
notified
about,
what's
going
on,
help
them
understand
the
process
and
also
importantly,
we're
directing
these
victims
to
community
resources,
because,
as
an
office,
we
may
not
individually
have
things
to
assist
the
victims
with,
but
by
networking
with
our
community
resources,
we
can
help
provide
those
wrap-around
services
that
a
victim
might
need
next
slide.
H
So
here
are
some
of
our
community
partners.
We
have
victims
of
crime
safe
nest,
safe
embrace
rave
crisis
center.
We
have
legal
aid
centers
that
we
work
with
here
in
northern
nevada.
We
have
the
children's
cabinet
and
the
housing
authority,
so
any
one
of
these
agencies
could
come
into
play
in
a
particular
case.
I'll
give
you
the
example
of
a
domestic
violence
case.
We
have
may
have
a
victim
of
domestic
violence
who
doesn't
feel
safe
in
their
home
anymore.
H
They
share
their
home
with
the
perpetrator,
and
so
they
may
need
to
move
and
in
order
to
move,
they
may
need
to
break
their
lease.
So
we
might
reach
out
to
legal
aid
services
or
legal
aid
centers
for
them
to
help
assist
them
in
breaking
that
lease
we
may
get
counseling
for
them
through
victims
of
crime.
We
may
have
issues
in
terms
of
moving
costs
that
victims
of
crime
can
help
with,
and
then
their
children
may
need
counseling.
H
So
we
can
reach
out
to
the
children's
cabinet
and
other
entities
who
can
assist
in
providing
services
that
our
office
doesn't
necessarily
provide,
but
that
are
critical
to
their
ability
to
move
on
with
their
lives
and
stay
as
focused
as
they
can
and
at
getting
past
this
hard
point
in
their
in
their
life,
child
advocacy
centers.
So
we
have
these
in
clark
county
and
in
washoe
county,
and
there
are
other
child
advocacy
centers
in
the
state
in
washoe
county,
we're
very
proud
of
our
child
advocacy
center.
It
was
established
in
2014.
H
H
We
tried
to
minimize
the
number
of
times
the
child
has
to
disclose,
and
so
we
have
members
of
our
team
who
can
watch
the
interview
conducted
according
to
best
practices
by
our
forensic
interviewers,
and
this
has
really
helped
in
terms
of
the
success
of
our
prosecutions
of
people
who
sexually
abuse,
children
or
physically
abuse
children,
and
it's
also
helped
in
making
sure
that
we
get
the
most
accurate
information
from
the
child
without
overly
traumatizing
them.
So
we're
very
proud
of
that
facility
next
slide.
H
H
So
that
would
include
bail
hearings,
the
right
to
be
a
post-conviction
hearing,
a
parole
hearing,
hearings
involving
release,
and
so
it
requires
not
just
prosecutors,
but
our
entire
criminal
justice
system
to
recognize
these
rights
and
to
make
sure
that
they're
protected
during
the
penancy
of
a
criminal
case.
G
So
the
second
of
the
three
p's
is
what
we
call
prosecuting
the
case,
and
this
is
really
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
a
da's
job.
Our
office
picks
up
a
case
basically
where,
when
law
enforcement
submits
it
to
our
agency
and
the
larger
agencies
within
nevada
have
attorneys
whose
sole
job
it
is
to
screen
cases
and
in
clark
county.
I
can
tell
you
that
we
have
seven
deputies
who
screen
cases
they
review
the
cases
for
charges
and
we
put
seasoned
trial
attorneys
in
this
position
because
they
are
best
positioned
to
answer
the
question.
G
We
re
review
for
proof,
search
or
constitutional
issues
or
any
issue
that
would
affect
our
ability
to
prove
the
case
beyond
a
reasonable
doubt,
and
I
I
know,
there's
allegations
from
some
that
we're
basically
too
cozy
with
police
departments,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
we
engage
in
a
completely
independent
review
of
the
case
when
it's
referred
to
us
by
a
police
agency,
and
I
think
that's
reflected
in
the
statistics
from
our
office
last
year.
In
2020
the
complete
year
we
received
34,
836,
felony
or
gross
misdemeanor
cases
to
our
office.
G
We
approved
68
of
those
cases,
so
a
large
majority
are
approved,
but
a
significant
percentage
are
either
denied,
or
at
least
pending
a
prosecution.
Depending
on
whether
or
not
we
can
get
some
additional
information
from
law
enforcement,
the
numbers
for
misdemeanor
misdemeanors
are
lower.
I
can
tell
you
that
last
year
we
have
an
approval
rate
of
about
50
percent
for
misdemeanors.
G
Now
some
of
that
is
due
to
covid,
and
so
they
have
changed
drastically,
but
even
in
the
past,
our
approval
for
mistos
has
been
about
80.
So
still,
I
can
reiterate
the
fact
that
we
deny
almost
one-fifth
of
all
cases
that
are
referred
to
us
for
prosecution
for
one
reason
or
another,
and
that's
not
an
indictment
of
law
enforcement
at
all.
G
But
our
decision,
whether
or
not
to
proceed
to
a
prosecution,
is
different
than
the
question
that
law
enforcement
is
asking
with
respect
to
whether
or
not
they
should
effectuate
an
arrest
or
submit
a
case
to
our
office.
Their
question
is:
is
probable
cause?
Is
there
slight
or
marginal
evidence
that
a
defendant
has
committed
a
crime,
but
when
we
review
a
case
we
ask
ourselves:
can
we
prove
this
case
beyond
a
reasonable
doubt?
G
I
want
to,
by
way
of
example,
give
you
two
crimes
that
we
have
in
nevada.
The
first
is
home
invasion
and
the
second
is
residential
burglary,
which
was
tweaked
a
little
bit
during
the
2019
session,
but
you
can
see
the
elements
on
the
screen.
So
whether
or
not
we
charge
one
or
both
of
these
is
obviously
fact
specific.
One
has
a
intent
element,
the
other.
Doesn't
one
has
a
force
element,
the
other
doesn't?
G
So
if
a
person
kicks
in
my
door
and
enters
my
home,
then
we
would
charge
home
invasion,
but
if
they
entered
my
home
by
just
opening
the
door,
because
I
forgot
to
lock
it,
but
they
entered
with
an
intent
to
steal,
then
we
could
charge
burglary.
In
that
case,
and
generally,
we
can
show
intent
by
the
actions
of
the
defendant.
What
did
they
do
when
they
entered?
Did
they
leave
with
anything?
So
those
are
the
types
of
things
that
we
look
at
with
respect
to
whether
or
not
we
can
prove
intent.
G
So
if
we
decide
we
being
the
da's
are
going
to
file
charges,
we
filed
what's
called
a
criminal
complaint
and
we
here's
an
example
of
a
criminal
complaint
charging
invasion
of
the
home
and
we
list
the
defendant's
name.
We
also
list
the
essential
elements
of
the
crime,
including
the
date.
It
was
committed,
the
address
and
any
specific
actions
that
were
alleging
as
well.
G
G
Since
you
last
met
in
2019,
the
valdez
jimenez
decision
had
not
been
decided
by
the
supreme
court,
but
since
then
the
nevada
supreme
court
has
found
that
defendants
are
entitled
to
a
prompt,
individualized,
bail
determination
and
that
if
prosecutors
are
going
to
ask
for
bail
in
an
amount
more
than
the
defendant
can
afford,
we
must
prove
by
clear
and
convincing
evidence
that
no
least
restrictive
conditions
would
ensure
the
defendant's
appearance
or
protect
the
community,
and
in
addition
to
that,
the
court
is
considering
what
we
call
statutory
or
constitutional
factors
as
well,
specifically
the
victim
and
some
of
the
things
that
you
see
listed
here
on
the
right
side
of
your
screen.
G
G
Now,
while
we're
still
trying
to
reach
the
12-hour
goal,
it
can
be
as
low
as
12.
generally
within
12
to
24
hours
of
arrest,
a
defendant
in
las
vegas
justice
court
is
in
front
of
a
judge,
and
it's
been
that
way
for
a
couple
years
now
and
kind
of
hitting
what
jenny
alluded
to
earlier
12
to
24
hours
from
arrest.
We
also
have
to
notify
the
victim
of
this
potential
court
hearing.
G
So
if
they
want
to
participate
in
the
valdez
cement
as
hearing
they
can
some
other
options
that
the
judges
have
in
lieu
of
bail
are
house
arrest
where
a
defendant
would
wear
a
gps,
monitor
intensive
supervision,
which
is
what
we
call
in
a
clark
county.
But
it's
really
just
telephonic
or
in-person
check-ins
at
a
designated
peer
interval.
They
can
also
just
straight
or
a
defendant
with
release
conditions
such
as
stay
away
from
the
victim
or
stay
away
from
certain
addresses.
G
One
thing
I
want
to
talk
about
with
respect
to
valdez
helmet
is
because
you,
you
will
be
hearing
some
legislative
changes
surrounding
the
valdez
come
as
changes.
This
session
is
time
to
make
an
informed
decision
as
prosecutors.
G
We
are
moving
up
this
the
period
of
time
in
which
we're
making
decisions,
but
sometimes
we
don't
have
all
the
information
that
we
need
and
sometimes
that
information
bears
directly
on
a
defendant's
dangerousness
to
the
community
or
their
likelihood
to
appear.
So
sometimes
we
need
to
ask
for
short
continuances
to
keep
doing
some
investigation,
and
we
are
going
to
ask
this
session
for
some
built-in
continuances
for
valdez
jimenez.
G
And
basically,
as
soon
as
we
file
a
criminal
complaint
and
as
soon
as
defendant
is
either
given
an
attorney
or
hires
an
attorney
we're
beginning
the
negotiation
process
and
plea
negotiations
can
occur
at
any
time
throughout
the
process.
But
generally
they
occur
right
before
a
preliminary
hearing.
And
we
look
at
many
factors
when
we're
talking
about
negotiating
a
case
and
how
we're
going
to
negotiate
a
case.
The
seriousness
of
the
offense,
our
ability
to
prove
it.
The
details
in
the
officers
report
the
defendant's
criminal
history.
G
So
you
could
have
two
defendants
engaging
in
similar
conduct,
but
the
outcomes
could
be
vastly
different,
based
on
a
whole
number
of
things,
including
the
defendant's
record
and
sometimes
there's.
You
know,
other
issues
that
bear
out
in
a
case
that
aren't
necessarily
reflected
in
the
declaration
of
arrest.
G
And
so
I
just
want
to
point
that
out
to
you
that
it's
important
to
look
at
all
the
layers
of
a
case,
so
not
just
the
act
but
the
defendant's
history
and
the
other
facets
that
da's
look
at
cases
that
are
seemingly
the
same
are
often
not,
and
I
also
want
to
point
out
that
as
part
of
the
negotiation
process,
we
generally
we
consult
with
the
victims
and
and
police
officers
to
get
their
input
on
the
case
as
well.
I
want
to
point
out
that
most
cases
negotiate
again.
G
We
file
a
significant
number
of
cases
a
year,
but
only
around
130
to
170
go
to
jury
trial
on
any
given
year
now
last
year,
because
of
covet.
It
was
anomaly
we
didn't
do
very
many
trials
at
all,
but
I
think
in
an
average
year
over
the
past
few
years,
we've
averaged
anywhere
from
130
to
170
cases.
Jenny.
H
Thank
you.
So,
of
course,
we
have
put
a
lot
a
lot
of
work
into
preparing
for
trial,
but
one
of
the
most
important
things
that
we
need
to
make
sure
we
do
is
provide
the
evidence
to
the
defense.
In
other
words,
anything
that
we
plan
on
using
during
trial
must
be
provided
to
the
defense
attorney
in
a
time
frame
that
they
can
be
able
to
look
at
it
and
analyze
it
and
prepare
their
defense.
H
Our
constitutional
discovery
obligations
are
critical
and
we
also
have
statutorily
based
discovery
obligations
to
turn
over
these
evidence.
This
evidence
now
we
have
on
here
that
we
have
to
provide
both
exculpatory
and
impeachment
evidence
to
the
defense,
and
most
of
you
may
know
what
that
means,
but
exculpatory
means
anything
tending
to
explain
away
the
charge.
For
example,
if
we
find
evidence
suggesting
that
the
defendant
was
at
a
different
location
at
the
time
of
the
crime,
that
would
be
something
that
we
need
to
turn
over
to
the
defense
immediately.
H
Impeachment
information
might
be
information,
suggesting
that
a
witness
has
said
something
inconsistent
with
what
they've
reported
to
the
police
or
to
us.
All
of
that
evidence
must
be
provided
to
the
defense
and
it's
critical
in
terms
of
complying
with
our
statutory,
I'm
sorry,
our
constitutional
discovery,
obligations
under
brady
and
giglio.
H
We
also
issued
subpoenas
and
contact
witnesses.
The
defense
also
can
issue
subpoenas
anticipation
for
trial
and
call
the
witnesses
that
they
want
to
call
we'll
file
motions
to
address
discovery
issues
or
whether
or
not
pieces
of
evidence
should
be
admitted
and
during
the
penancy
of
a
criminal
case.
We
may
also
ask
the
police
to
conduct
an
additional
investigation
and,
as
we
receive
that
information,
of
course,
we
provide
it
to
the
defense
next
slide,
please
so
at
trial.
H
Of
course,
the
defendant
has
a
right
to
trial
before
12,
jurors,
a
jury
of
their
peers,
and
those
jurors
are
the
only
ones
who
make
the
factual
determinations
regarding
the
defendant's
guilt
or
innocence.
We
have
to
prove
each
of
those
crimes
beyond
a
reasonable
doubt,
and
that
decision
has
to
be
unanimous
next
slide.
H
Now,
what's
reasonable
doubt,
prosecutors
have
gotten
in
trouble
in
the
past
and
trying
to
quantify
this,
and
so
what
we
really
try
to
stay
away
from
and
what
we
encourage.
Our
deputies
to
do
is
go
with
the
statutory
definition
which
is
in
front
of
you.
A
reasonable
doubt
is
a
doubt
that
is
based
on
reason,
not
mere
possible
doubt,
but
the
type
of
doubt
that
would
govern
or
control
your
decisions
and
more
weighty
affairs
of
life.
H
H
In
anticipation
of
that,
the
division
of
parole
and
probation
will
prepare
a
pre-sentence
investigation
report.
That
report
will
have
information
concerning
the
crime,
the
defendant's
criminal
history,
anything
the
defendant
may
have
said
during
their
interview.
It
also
provide
personal
information
regarding
perhaps
their
struggles
with
mental
health
issues,
substance,
abuse,
etc,
and
so
these
are
all
important
pieces
of
information
that
the
judge
needs
to
consider
when
they're
deciding
what
the
appropriate
sentence
is.
They
have
broad
discretion
to
fashion
a
sentence
as
long
as
it's
within
statutory
limits.
H
So
we
may
have
the
prosecutor
argue
for
argue
for
an
appropriate
sentence.
The
defense
attorney
obviously
will
advocate
on
behalf
of
their
client
and
ask
for
a
sentence
or
a
resolution.
They
think
is
fair
and
then
the
victim
has
a
right
as
well
to
speak
at
sentencing
and
importantly,
the
defendant
can
also
address
the
court
speak
in
allocution
and
explain
why
they're
asking
for
the
sentence
that
they're
asking
for
next
slide,
please
after
trial
and
sentencing.
I
think
a
lot
of
people
have
the
impression
that
the
criminal
justice
system
is
done.
H
That
is
certainly
not
the
case
and
what
I
spend
the
bulk
of
my
time
doing
are
working
on
post-conviction
proceedings
such
as
direct
appeals,
those
are
to
our
nevada
appellate
courts,
so
the
nevada
court
of
appeals
or
the
nevada
supreme
court.
That's
the
first
appeal
that
somebody
has
from
their
trial
result
or
their
plea
result,
and
they
have
30
days
to
file
their
notice
of
appeal
after
after
they're
convicted.
H
We
also
have
a
it
can
sometimes
be
a
parallel
proceeding
called
a
petition
for
rid
of
habeas
corpus,
those
are
filed
in
the
district
court
and
that's
usually
where
a
defendant
is
going
to
challenge
the
adequacy
of
their
attorney's
performance.
That's
typically
the
types
of
claims
that
we
see
those
have
to
be
filed
within
one
year
generally
of
the
remittance
or
final
decision
in
the
case
by
the
nevada
appellate
courts.
There
can
be
exceptions,
though,
depending
on
why
the
defendant
has
delayed
filing
their
petition
for
rid
of
habeas
corpus.
H
They
may
be
entitled
to
hearing
on
that
petition
and
then
the
results
of
that
evidentiary
hearing
in
the
court's
decision
are
also
subject
to
an
appeal
to
our
nevada
appellate
courts.
Defendants
can
also
file
other
types
of
procedural
vehicles
to
challenge
their
conviction.
They
can
file
a
motion
for
a
new
trial
based
on
newly
discovered
evidence.
They
can
file
a
motion
for
new
trial
based
on
some
sort
of
legal
error
that
they
believe
occurred
during
the
proceedings.
H
A
request
for
dna
testing
can
be
filed
at
any
time
after
the
conviction.
A
motion
to
withdraw
guilty
plea
can
happen
either
prior
to
sentencing
or
after
sentencing,
and
I'm
sorry
prior
to
the
plea
or
after
the
plea-
and
we
also
have
petitions
to
establish
factual
innocence.
That
was
something
that
was
created
by
the
legislature
last
session
and
that's
also
based
on
newly
discovered
evidence,
but
it
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
be
scientific,
so
these
can
be
filed
at
any
time
it
can
be
filed
30
years
after
the
conviction.
H
We
have
victims,
who
are
still,
of
course,
very
invested
in
the
outcome
of
the
cases
who
attend
each
one
of
these
hearings,
and
so
for
them.
The
case
really
just
drags
on
and
on
for
decades,
which
is
very
difficult
on
the
families
of
the
decedents
next
slide.
Please.
G
So
this
is
jon
jones
again,
I
spoke
earlier
about
how
prosecutors
are
updating
their
practices
and,
and
one
of
the
major
ways
is
focusing
on
how
to
stop
the
the
quote
cycle
of
offending
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is
getting
at
the
reasons
why
people
break
the
law,
be
it
substance,
abuse
mental
health
or
any
other
triggers
now
they're
still,
and
it
is
a
punitive
aspect
to
the
criminal
justice
system
and
prison
is
still
an
important
tool
to
rid
our
society
of
those
who
prey
on
people.
G
But
da's
are
focusing
more
on
treatment
and
that's
why
we
come
to
ask
you
for
options.
We
need
more
options
for
those
who
have
substance,
abuse
and
mental
health
treatment.
One
of
the
promises
last
session,
with
the
passage
of
ab236,
was
to
use
the
savings
from
a
reduced
prison
population
and
to
reinvest
those
dollars
in
programs,
and
we
are
looking
forward
to
that
part
of
baby
236,
because
I
can
unequivocally
say
that
the
need
for
drug
and
mental
health
services
is
great.
G
So
I
want
to
talk
to
you
about
a
few
diversion
programs
that
we
have
and
that
district
attorneys
use,
but
I
want
to
start
off
by
a
clark
county,
specific
project
that
steve
wolfson
started
last
year.
It's
called
project
redirect
and
in
project
redirect
defendants
are
identified
during
the
case
assessment
process.
So
that's
by
those
screening
deputies
that
I
talked
about
earlier
and
if
they've
committed
a
non-violent
felony
and
are
otherwise
appropriate,
we
basically
don't
file
any
charges.
We
enter
into
an
agreement
with
them
where
they
agree
to
pay
any
restitution.
G
They
enter
a
program
of
rehabilitation
depending
on
what
the
needs
are
of
that
particular
defendant,
and
if
they
are
successful,
we
deny
the
charge
and
they
can
seal
their
records
if
they
fail
to
complete
the
program
or
commit
another
crime,
while
they're
participating,
the
charges
will
be
filed
and
the
case
will
proceed
as
normal,
so
this
is
another.
This
is
one
example
of
how,
in
clark
county,
we're
updating
our
practices
to
engage
in,
I
would
say,
non-traditional
but
increasingly
visible
diversion
programs.
Additionally,
last
session
in
statute
ab236,
you
added
176
to
11.
G
That
was
a
newer
diversion
scheme
and
we
also
have
3363
that's
already
in
statute,
which
is
a
treatment
for
drug
offenders
which
we
use
in
in
our
da's
offices.
Additionally,
I
wrote
in
here
diversion
in
negotiations,
even
though
there
may
not
be
a
statutory
scheme.
District
attorneys
offer
oftentimes
offer
negotiations
in
which
a
defendant
can
earn
a
dismissal
if
they
successfully
complete
or
earn
a
drop
down
to
a
lesser
charge
if
they
successfully
complete.
So
these
are
just
some
options
that
prosecutors
have
to
engage.
H
So
our
specialty
courts
are
something
that
we're
very
proud
of
in
wacho
county,
and
I
know
that
clark
county
also
has
a
number
of
programs,
for
example,
both
counties,
I
believe,
have
drug
courts,
and
before
I
start
talking
about
drug
court,
I
want
to
explain
that
these
courts
are
a
different
landscape
for
an
offender.
So
we
have,
instead
of
an
adversarial
atmosphere,
more
of
a
team
atmosphere
with
most
of
our
diversion
courts.
H
Participating
professionals
like
the
d.a
defense,
attorneys
treatment
providers
and
the
division
of
parole
probation
work
together
to
maximize
the
opportunity
for
them
to
work
with
the
defendant.
As
a
team
and
up
here
in
washoe
county,
our
specialty
court
team,
usually
on
each
of
the
specialty
court,
meets
with
the
rest
of
the
staff
about
once
a
week
and
they're
able
to
go
over
what's
going
on
with
each
defendant
how
they're
progressing,
maybe
they
backslid
and
they're,
certainly
not
looking
for
perfection.
H
We
understand
that
when
someone
is
struggling,
struggling
with
substance,
abuse,
they're
struggling
with
mental
health
issues
or
other
issues
that
they
are
going
to
have
points
where
they,
where
their
compliance
is
less
than
perfect.
What
we're
looking
for
is
an
effort
to
comply
with
the
program
to
work
with
the
treatment
providers,
and
it's
certainly
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
is
better
about
the
criminal
justice
process
now
versus
10
years
ago.
So
one
of
these
is
drug
port.
H
We
have
services
for
folks
who
are
struggling
with
drug
addiction,
treatment
providers,
housing
assistance,
employment
assistance,
mental
health
care
and
other
types
of
practical
assistance
like
helping
people
find
jobs.
H
Now
in
drug
court
in
washoe
county,
we
partici,
we
separate
our
participants
into
different
documents
based
on
risk,
and
that's
because,
based
on
some
of
the
changes
last
session,
we
may
have
people
with
sales
related
offenses,
where
they're
selling
fairly
quiet,
fairly
high
quantities
of
drugs,
and
then
we
have
people
who
you
can
really
tell
their
their
primary
is
that
they
are
a
user
and
they're
an
addict
and
they
and
they
need
a
specific
type
of
help.
H
So
we're
trying
to
keep
the
folks
who
are
selling
separate
from
the
folks
who
are
simply
just
using
mental
health
court
is
also
one
of
the
course
we
have
again
we're
focusing
on.
H
Why
do
they
have
contact
with
the
criminal
justice
system
what's
going
on
with
their
mental
illness
or
their
condition,
and
the
team
works
with
them
with
their
treatment
providers
to
help
them
succeed
in
the
process?
Sometimes
that
involves
medication.
Sometimes
it
doesn't
to
assist
them
with
finding
a
job,
some
things
as
simple
as
getting
a
driver's
license
or
getting
identification.
H
H
We
also
in
clark
and
washoe
county
have
a
veterans,
treatment
court
which
we're
very
proud
of
this,
focuses
on
rehabilitating
folks
who
have
served
our
country
and
have
come
into
contact
with
the
criminal
justice
system
because
they
have
service
related
conditions.
They
may
have
a
brain
injury.
They
may
have
military
sexual
trauma,
post-traumatic
stress,
anxiety,
depression
and
we
serve
in
in
the
washoe
county
da's
office,
not
just
folks
from
washoe
county
but
throughout
northern
nevada.
H
So
if
someone
is
from
story
county
or
they
are
from
winnemucca
elko
county,
if
they
want
to,
they
can
come
to
our
court.
H
If
they're
referred
by
a
judge
and
take
advantage
of
the
services
of
that
court,
we
have
drug
addiction,
treatment,
mental
health
treatment,
psychiatric
services
and
just
practical
services
that
we
offer,
such
as
job
placement,
etc.
We
also
have
a
very
cool
program
where
we
have
veterans,
mentoring,
veterans,
I'm
and
so
a
participant
in
veterans
court
may
be
assigned
a
mentor.
H
We
also
in
washoe
county
have
something
called
prison
reentry
court.
Now
these
are
folks
who
are
still
serving
their
sentence
of
imprisonment,
but
they're
referred
to
us
by
the
nevada
department
of
corrections
based
on
a
great
disciplinary
record,
achievement
records
in
prison
and
the
prosecutor,
defense
counsel,
judge
and
the
division.
All
vote
regarding
who
should
be
included
in
this
program
and
for
prisoners
who
are
re-entering
our
society.
They're
helped
with
transitional
housing,
substance
abuse
counseling
if
they
need
it,
mental
health
counseling.
H
H
H
H
We
have
a
dui
court
and
that
court
is
a
little
bit
more
strict.
It's
pursuant
to
senate
bill
277
from
quite
a
few
sessions
ago
now,
but
these
are
folks
that
have
committed
driving
under
the
influence
three
times
within
seven
years,
and
so
normally
they
would
have
a
felony
in
prison.
In
this
court
they
are
offered
the
opportunity
to
comply
with
some
pretty
strict
standards,
including
requiring
them
to
wear
a
scram
device
ice,
an
interlock
device
on
their
car
they're,
given
substance
abuse,
countling,
counseling,
etc.
H
But
the
upshot
is
that
if
they
successfully
complete
this
program,
their
their
felony
will
be
converted
to
a
misdemeanor,
and
so
that's
a
really
important
result
for
them,
and
I
also
wanted
to
mention
in
clark
county.
They
have
a
gambler's
court.
I
know
we
have
something
like
that
in
some
of
our
justice
courts,
but
it's
not
quite
as
well
established
as
clark
counties
and
then
we
also
have
a
misdemeanor
specialty
courts.
H
G
And
this
is
jon
jones
on
behalf
of
the
clark
county
da's
office,
and
I
also
want
to
reiterate
that
we
are
developing
programs
that
are
not
just
for
what
we
would
call
entry-level
offenders
in
clark
county
again
under
the
direction
of
d.a,
steve
wolfson.
We
have
partnered
with
the
hope
for
prisoners,
program
and
developed
a
program,
we're
calling
hope
for
second
chances.
G
This
program
targets
high
risk
individuals
who
are
legitimate
candidates
for
a
prison
sentence,
and
what
we
do
is
we
partner
with
hope
for
prisoners
and
they
utilize
their
program
services
to
provide
support,
mentorship
and
training
for
the
people,
and
they
they
do
this
in
conjunction
with
parole
and
probation.
So,
typically,
what
will
happen
is
they
will,
instead
of
getting
a
prison
sentence?
They'll
get
a
suspended
sentence
and
be
placed
on
probation
and
attend
to
complete
the
hope
for
second
chances
program?
G
Any
of
you
who
are
not
aware
of
the
hope
for
prisoners
program
generally,
I
highly
encourage
you
to
take
the
opportunity
to
get
to
know
that
program.
It
was
started
by
john
ponder
and
it
is.
It
is
an
amazing
program
and
it's
doing
great
things
for
our
community
and,
although
I'm
not
spending
a
lot
of
time
today
talking
about
juveniles,
I
I
want
to
sing
the
praises
of
the
harbor
and
the
harbor
is
a
juvenile
assessment
center
and
bridget
duffy
from
our
office.
G
Who
again
runs
our
juvenile
division,
has
spent
years
with
other
agencies
in
clark
county.
Getting
this
off
the
ground.
It's
an
assessment
center,
where
you,
basically
all
can
quite
a
few
community
providers,
are
located
in
this
one-stop
shop
and
you
don't
have
to
be
in
the
criminal
justice
system
or
the
juvenile
justice
system
to
avail
yourself
of
services
at
the
harbor.
H
I
wanted
to
spend
a
little
bit
of
time
talking
about
what
processes
we
go
through
and
what
each
office
recognizes
is
an
important
interest
in
making
sure
that
claims
of
actual
innocence
or
cases
where
the
wrong
person
may
have
been
convicted
or
taken
very
seriously
in
washoe
county.
We
have
something:
that's
called
the
conviction,
integrity
committee
and
in
clark
county.
H
Similarly,
we
have
the
conviction,
integrity
unit,
and
so
both
counties
have
dedicated
personnel
to
review
claims
from
prisoners
indicating
that
they
are
wrongfully
imprisoned
and
suggesting
that
they
have
evidence
to
show
us
that
would,
in
fact,
prove
their
innocence,
and
if
we
find
these
credible
claims,
we
have
the
option
to
take
appropriate
action,
including
stipulating
to
excuse
the
procedural
time
bars
to
make
it
easier
to
get
this
into
court.
Agreeing
to
additional
testing
examining
newly
discovered
evidence,
or
we
could
even
agree
to
dismiss
the
case.
H
So
that
is
an
important
part
of
each
of
our
offices.
Next
slide.
We
also
have
set
up
the
nevada,
prosecution,
best
practices
committee.
This
is
a
group
of
non-partisan
prosecutors
from
across
the
state.
There
are
12
of
them
and
they
represent
law
enforcement
and
prosecutory
interest
in
making
sure
that
what
we're
doing
is
the
best
way
to
approach
a
problem.
So
when
issues
come
up
in
the
urban
areas
in
the
suburban
areas,
rural,
this
is
something
that
we
would
bring
before
the
best
practices
committee
so
that
they.
F
H
At
what
da's
offices
around
to
help
continue
to
improve
our
practice
of
law
next
slide.
H
H
This
is
not
law
and
order
where
you
see
prosecutors
at
times
that
are
simply
just
interested
in
the
convictions
and
they
don't
even
care
who
actually
committed
a
crime.
That
is
not
what
we
do.
We
want
a
just
outcome
for
the
victim.
We
want
an
outcome
that
works
for
the
for
the
community
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
justice
is
done,
and
with
that
I
thank
you
so
much
for
your
time
and
we're
here
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have.
A
A
But
if
you
do
have
additional
questions
just
about
process
and
that
you
know
you
can
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
these
two
or
you
have
a
number
of
folks
on
the
committee
who
have
practiced
criminal
law
as
well,
including
myself,
vice
chairwin,
I
believe,
assemblywoman
cohen,
has
done
some
criminal
defense
work
as
well,
and
I'm
probably
missing
somebody
else,
but
regardless
feel
free
to
ask
questions
for
now.
I
know
I
have
some
questions
in
the
queue
already,
but
let
me
just
take
a
show
of
hands.
Who
else
has
a
question
for
our.
A
Prosecutors,
okay,
okay,
so
so
far,
we'll
go
in
this
order.
We'll
start
with
assembly
woman,
bilbray
axelrod,
then
we'll
go
to
assemblywoman
summers,
armstrong,
assemblywoman,
hanson
and
assemblywoman
hardy
and
we'll
take
it.
Take
any
more
questions
after
that,
so
assemblywoman
billbray
axelrod.
Do
you
want
to
kick
us
off
with
questions.
B
Sure,
thank
you
for
being
here.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation,
my
questions
about
case
screening
that
you
spoke
about
early
on.
You
know,
we've
seen,
study
after
study
that
confirms
that
implicit
racial
bias
has
an
effect
on
our
criminal
justice
system.
So
well
first,
let
me
ask
you:
do
you?
Do
you
believe
that
implicit
racial
bias
exists
in
the
system
before
I
move
on
from
that.
G
Excellent
woman,
billboard
axelrod
this
is
jon
jones
on
behalf
of
the
clark
county
da's
office.
Thank
you
for
asking
that
question
and
I
believe
the
nevada
youth
legislature
actually
has
a
bill.
This
session,
where
they're
proposing
to
mandate
training
on
implicit
bias
for
members
of
the
prosecution
and
other
teams
in
law
enforcement,
and
I
can
assure
you
that
we,
we
do
believe
in
the
issue
and
in
fact,
we've
received
training
in
the
clark
county
da's
office
on
the
issue
and
understanding
implicit
bias.
A
B
Okay,
so
that's
that's
great
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
the
youth
legislatures
bill
come,
but
I
was
actually
thinking
of
I
just
recently
heard
about
the
san
francisco
d.a.
They
have
a
blind
charging
decision.
I
I
think
it's
a
software.
B
Do
you
think
that
might
help
mitigate
political,
implicit,
racial
bias?
I
I
just
I
feel
like
if
we
just
go
in
with
where
it's
completely
blind,
and
we
can't
see
that
might
even
push
us
even
further,
because
I
think
that
we're
all
struggling
with
the
fact
that
that
we
have
these
bias
that
some
of
us
didn't
even
realize
that
we
had
so
what
I
was
just
wondering.
What
you
thought
about
that.
G
B
A
Thank
you
assemblywoman
and
sorry
committee
members,
my
computer's
being
a
little
finicky
this
morning.
I'm
sure
we've
all
dealt
with
this
on
a
regular
basis,
but
we'll
go
next
to
assemblywoman
summer's
armstrong.
D
Good
morning,
chandra
summers,
armstrong
assembly
district,
six.
Thank
you
so
much
to
both
of
you
for
being
here
and
providing
all
this
wonderful
information,
mr
jones,
and
also
miss
noble.
I
would
like
to
know
if
you
have
seen
any
issues
with
instituting
the
jimenez
structure
and
marcy's
law.
D
I
worked
on
some
bail
reform
back
in
2018
with
some
community
groups
and
just
would
like
to
know
if
this
has
presented
a
problem
or
are
you
able
to
institute
jimenez
effectively.
H
H
At
times
we
don't
have
all
the
information
necessary.
So
if
the
hearing
is
held
in
12
hours,
we
may
not
have
a
criminal
history.
We
may
not
have
information
about
the
offense,
that's
important
for
the
judge
to
make
an
informed
decision,
and
this
really
does
tie
into
marsy's
law
because,
as
you
know,
victims
have
a
constitutional
right
to
be
heard
and
to
be
president,
anything
involving
release
and
there's
sort
of
been
an
assumption.
H
I
think
by
some
of
our
judiciary
and
defense
and
other
parties
of
the
criminal
justice
system,
that
the
burden
with
contacting
the
victim
making
sure
they're
there
making
sure
they
know
what's
going
on
is
something
that
prosecutors
bear
alone.
And
that's
simply
not
what
the
constitutional
amendment
says.
H
G
An
assembly
woman-
this
is
a
jon
jones
on
behalf
of
the
clark
county
da's
office.
I
want
to
piggyback
off
of
jenny's
comments
a
little
bit
as
well.
We
are
still
implementing
the
valdez
venez
decision,
we're
still
working
through
some
issues
with
implementation,
including
the
time
frame
issues
that
jenny
just
talked
about.
But
there
are
some
inequities
within
the
bail
system
that
valdez
jimenez
did
not
address,
and
one
of
those
issues
is
standard
bail.
G
We
still
have
standard
bail
in
the
state
of
nevada,
so
somebody
who
is
of
means
can
bail
out
before
ever
seeing
a
judge
and
that
person
is
somebody
potentially
that
I
would
argue,
needs
to
remain
detained
because
of
their
criminal
history
or
because
of
the
violent
nature
of
the
conduct
they're
alleged
to
have
committed.
So
as
da's
one
of
the
additional
aspects
of
bail
reform,
we're
asking
for
is
an
end
to
standard
bail.
G
So
if,
unless
you're
subject
to
a
generally
applicable
release
order,
for
example
in
clark
county,
virtually
everyone
who
is
arrested
for
possession
of
controlled
substance
charge
is
released
unless
you're.
Unless
that
order
applies
to
you,
you
should
see
a
judge
before
any
type
of
standard
bail
is
set.
D
Thank
you,
this
noble
and
mr
jones
chair.
If
I
may
ask
a
a
follow-up.
D
Thank
you
when
you
don't
have
the
information?
Well,
ms
noble
you
spoke
to
a
a
standard
repository
for
victims.
Can
you
speak
a
little
bit
more
about
what
you
mean
there
and
and
if
you
don't
have
the
information
within
the
12
hours,
what
do
you
do.
H
Thank
you
for
the
question
assemblywoman.
I
think,
typically,
what
our
prosecutors
do.
Is
they
ask
for
a
bit
more
time
so
that
they
can
get
that
information,
and
also,
I
note
that
sometimes
the
defense
attorneys
are
asking
for
more
time
because
they
haven't
had
a
chance
to
look
at
the
criminal
history.
Yet
sometimes
we
don't
receive
that
directly
from
the
agency
and
so
and
we're
not
allowed
to
send
those
via
email
to
the
defenses
right.
H
There
are
restrictions
that
the
fbi
places
on
those
so
or
on
the
dissemination
of
that
information.
So
we
have
them
available
for
pickup,
but
sometimes
the
defense
attorney
hasn't
had
a
chance
to
to
take
a
look
at
it
either,
and
so
we'll
ask
for
you
know
another
day
or
12
more
hours
or
whatever
is
necessary.
We
really
try
to
minimize
how
much
more
time
that
we
ask
for,
and
sometimes
our
request
is
granted
and
sometimes
it's
denied.
A
Great
thank
you,
and
just
just
to
mention
to
the
committee
as
by
way
of
history.
You
know
mr
jones
mentioned
the
push
to
get
rid
of
standard
bail
before
a
defendant
sees
a
judge.
We
did
pass
such
a
bill
assembly
bill
136
in
the
2017
session,
sponsored
by
assemblywoman
neil.
Now
it
had
other
things
in
there
as
well,
but
ultimately
that
bill
was
vetoed
by
governor
sandoval.
A
B
Thank
you
chair
and
it's
nice
to
see
you,
ms
noble
and
mr
jones.
Actually
my
question
springboards
a
little
bit
off
of
my
colleague.
Some
of
the
women's
summers.
Armstrong
regarding
that
detention,
bail,
val
valdez
jimenez
situation
has
coveted
caused
you
any
delays
that
have
impacted
trying
to
make
sure
that
defendants
are
are
given
some
of
these
rights
to
happen
sooner
rather
than
later.
G
Silhouette
hanson:
this
is
jon
jones.
On
behalf
of
the
clark
county
district
attorney's
office.
Our
initial
appearance
court
has
still
met
twice
a
day
every
day
of
the
week,
even
during
covid.
In
fact,
I
don't
know
if
initial
appearance
court
ever
went
virtual.
I
think
they
were
still
meeting
in
person,
although
I
think
the
inmates
appeared
virtually
during
that
time.
But
yes,
during
covid,
the
about
smns
hearings,
still
happened.
They
still
happened
within
the
12
to
24
hours
that
I
talked
about.
G
We
have
had
other
aspects
of
the
criminal
justice
system
slow
down
drastically,
including
the
fact
that
no
trials
were
taking
place,
but
the
initial
detention
determination
is
one
that
we
still
tried
to
adhere
to,
based
on
the
supreme
court's
ruling
that
it
must
be
held
promptly.
B
Right
and,
and
just
also
on
that,
with
marcy's
law,
if
you
with
having
to
contact
the
victim
or
notify
the
victim,
if
you
just
have
to
attempt
to
notify,
are,
are
you
going
to
be
delayed
in
this
process?
If
you
don't
get
some
sort
of
recognition
that
the
victim
has
received
notification?
Does
that
cause
a
delay
in
this.
G
This
is
a
jon
jones
on
behalf
of
the
clark
county
district
attorney's
office.
We
attempt
to
call
them.
Yes,
I
mean
if,
if
it's
a
very
serious
case
and
and
we
know
for
one
reason
or
another-
that
the
victim
wants
to
be
heard
at
the
valdez
menace
hearing
we'll
ask
for
a
continuance,
but
again
there's
no
continuance
mechanism
built
into
statute,
so
we're
at
the
mercy
of
the
judge
in
that
particular
situation.
So
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we're
asking
for
a
continuance
statute.
G
B
And
chair,
I
promise
this
is
just
a
real
quick
answer.
Question!
That's
fine
go
ahead!
This
is
more
like
three
questions
on
your
last
part
of
the
presentation
talked
about
the
conviction,
integrity,
review
and
the
nevada
prosecution
best
practices
committee.
What
when
were
those
established?
What
year.
G
This
is
jon
jones
on
behalf
of
the
clark
county
district
attorney's
office.
That's
a
great
question.
The
conviction,
integrity
unit
in
clark
county
was
started
a
couple
years
ago.
I
want
to
say
it's
been
a
couple
years
three
years,
maybe,
but
I
don't
want
to
just
guess
so
I
apologize,
but
it's
been
a
couple
years.
The
best
practices
committee
has
been
around
for
about
a
year
and
our
assistant
district
attorney,
christopher
lawley
and
another
deputy
district
attorney
in
my
office.
G
I
mean
as
the
legislative
liaison
for
the
offices,
jenny
and
I
receive
all
kinds
of
questions
and
concerns
about
the
goings
on
in
our
offices
and
the
best
practices
committee
is
a
great
way
for
prosecutors
of
all
stripes
throughout
the
state
to
get
together
and
to
talk
about
those
issues
and
look
at
what
other
jurisdictions
have
done
when
they
confronted
these
same
issues,
because
we're
not
unique
here
in
nevada
in
terms
of
some
of
the
criminal
justice
issues
that
we're
seeing
and
instead
of
reinventing
the
wheel.
G
H
Jennifer
noble
for
the
record
assemblywoman
hanson,
just
to
answer
your
question
with
regard
to
washoe
county,
our
conviction,
integrity
committee
was
established
in
2017.
B
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
both
for
this
presentation
as
one
that
does
not
work
in
criminal
law.
This
has
been
very
informative
for
me,
so
I
just
have
two
questions,
and
these
can
this
can
be
a
general
answer
so
because
of
covid
you
know
the
courts
were
shut,
shut
down
in
some
way
or
another.
How
far
behind
like
are
the
calendars
of
the
cases
now?
Just
generally.
G
71
hardy,
that
is
a
great
question,
and
it's
actually
one
of
the
questions
that
best
practices
has
been
asked
to
address
and
that's
that's
how
to
deal
with
the
backlog
that
was
created
because
of
covid.
We
do
have
a
backlog.
How
big
that
is!
I
don't
know
at
this
point
I
can
tell
you
we
have
done
things
to
try
to
mitigate
the
backlog,
and
I
kind
of
addressed
this
during
my
presentation
when
I
said
that
we've
sort
of
tightened
up
our
screening
procedures
and
our
case
assessment
unit.
G
So
in
all
honesty,
a
case
that
may
have
been
approved
a
year
or
two
ago
might
not
have
been
approved
during
covet,
as
we
have
to
focus
our
resources
on
the
cases
that
we
really
should
be
focusing
on
due
to
a
public
safety
concern.
And
so
those
are
the
things
that
we're
trying
to
do
to
address
the
backlog
or
at
least
to
keep
the
backlog
from
growing
any
bigger
than
it
needs
to
be.
H
H
We
have
our
numbers
going
up
and
down
in
washoe
county.
So
that's
also
a
challenge,
so
we've
done
the
best.
We
can,
for
example,
we're
having
attorneys
wear
headphones,
so
they
can
communicate
with
the
judge
by
sidebar
but
social
distance
from
them.
So
the
jury
can't
hear
there's
plexiglas
masks,
but
I'm
also
seeing
defense
motions.
I'm
saying
that
I
don't.
I
don't
want
to
be
tried
in
this
environment.
I
I
want
to
wait
to
have
my
trial
now,
of
course,
they're
not
necessarily
waiving
their
speedy
trial
either.
H
So
this
is
going
to
create
a
lot
of
issues
that
our
supreme
court
is
going
to
have
to
sort
out
moving
forward.
It's
a
very
sticky
wicket
and
we're
having
sentencings.
Of
course,
remote
bail
hearings
are
done
remotely,
but
I
have
folks
now
asserting
that
they
didn't
want
their
sentencing
to
be
conducted
remotely,
that
that
violated
their
constitutional
rights,
and
so
these
are
all
claims
that
come
out
of
this
unique
situation,
which
we
find
ourselves
that
we'll
be
continuing
to
litigate.
For
some
time.
B
Thank
you
for
those
answers.
I
think,
as
with
every
aspect,
it's
just
another
challenge
and
something
that
has
to
be
addressed
as
we
move
forward
and
then
my
next
question
is
you
mentioned
factors
that
are
considered
in
setting
bail.
One
of
those
was
intensive
supervision.
B
Could
you
give
me
some
examples
of
what
those
are
and
then
what
happens
if
someone
violates
one
of
those
conditions
and
I'm
assuming
most
of
those
check-ins
are
done
virtually
so
what
happens?
If
you
know
they
appear
on
cameron,
everything
they
say
is
good
great.
So
what
happens
if
they
violate
those.
G
This
is
jon
jones
on
behalf
of
the
clark
county
district
attorney's
office.
Intensive
supervision
is
a
fancy
term
that
we
use
down
in
here
down
here
in
clark
county
specifically
for
check-in
regular
check-ins,
either
telephonic
or
in-person
check-ins.
G
If
they
don't
check
in
at
their
required
time,
either
in
person
or
via
phone,
then
in
theory
they're
supposed
to
be
arrested
and
brought
back
before
the
judge.
I
can
tell
you
that
doesn't
always
happen.
G
What
will
typically
happen
is
we'll
show
up
in
court
at
the
next
court
date
and
the
judge
will
say:
hey
you
missed
four
check-ins
what's
going
on,
in
addition
to
intensive
supervision,
we
have
what's
called
electronic
monitoring
program
and
we
have
three
levels
here
in
clark,
county,
low
level,
mid-level
and
then
house
arrest
and
those
are
where
people
wear
a
gps
bracelet
with
increasing
levels
of
restriction.
G
As
you
proceed
up
to
house
arrest,
our
most
intensive
type
of
release
is
house
arrest
where
they
have
a
bracelet
on
their
ankle
and
they're
restricted
to
their
home.
Now
they
can
also
get
permission
to
go
to
work
or
do
any
other
required
activities.
So
you
know
we
don't
say
you
can't
go
to
work
when
you're
on
this
program,
but
but
generally,
if
you're
not
at
work.
C
It's
good
to
see
you,
mr
jones,
and
miss
noble.
I
have
a
question.
I
know
that
I
sat
actually
as
vice
chair
on
sjr
11,
which
was
a
interim
study
on
pre-trial
bail,
and
there
were
several
recommendations
that
came
out
as
you
guys
know,
because
you
were
present
during
most
of
those
committee
meetings
as
well.
C
I
know
that
many
of
the
offices,
including
both
of
yours,
received
various
cares
dollars
to
kind
of
upgrade
some
of
your
systems.
Obviously
I
think
there
could
be
done
more.
I
heard
in
the
clark
county
district
attorney's
office
that
they
provided
all
these
headsets,
not
realizing
that
more
than
75
percent
of
the
computers
didn't
have
cameras.
So
I
know
that
there
is
a
long
place
to
go
in
updating
that
technology,
so,
but
in
light
of
that,
are
there
some
takeaways
from
some
of
the
covid
protections
and
regulations
that
have
done
that?
C
We
think
we
can
use
forward
in
a
positive
way
to
get
those
hearings
more
timely
to
include
victims
pursuant
to
marcy's
law.
I
know
that,
having
done
sentencing
myself
like,
I
see
a
lot
more
victim
participation
honestly
because
they
are
able
to
participate
at
least
in
clark
county
on
that
virtual
format.
So
do
you
think
there's
any
takeaways
from
some
of
the
things
that
we've
implemented,
that
we
would
be
able
to
continue
on
in
order
to
speed
things
up.
G
This
is
jon
jones
on
behalf
of
the
clark
county
district
attorney's
office.
I
think
that
is
a
great
question
and
it
it
highlights
something
that
I
think
da's
have
asked
for
even
last
session
during
the
bail
arguments
that
we
had
is
flexibility.
G
What
we
don't
want
to
see
in
statute
are
just
rigid
guidelines
that
may
not
work
for
rural
jurisdiction
as
long
as
there
is
a
what
I
would
call
a
a
floor
built
in
statute
and
some
ability
for
rural
jurisdictions
to
be
innovative
through
a
telephonic
appearances
or
video
appearances.
I
think
you'll
find
that
we
can
support
a
lot
of
what
the
interim
commission
tried
to
do.
But
if
that
flexibility
is
not
there,
then
that's
when
some
of
our
rural
da's
and
rural
da's
offices
really
have
issues,
and
so
I
agree
with
your
question.
G
Yes,
we
we
absolutely
support.
You
know
some
of
the
things
that
have
come
to
life
during
cove
at
video
technology
and
the
use
of
those
to
expedite
defendant's
constitutional
hearings.
C
And
I
have
one
other
question,
and
this
is
probably
for
both
of
your
offices.
Do
you
have
any
kind
of
updated
information
on?
I
know
in
the
past
we've
heard
and
you
guys
have
presented
information
about
the
percentage
of
cases
that
are
screened
are
out
of
screening.
I
guess,
and
I
was
wondering
if
you
have
any
updated
practices.
G
So
we
try
to
find
you
know
screen
appropriately
with
respect
to
those
cases,
and
so
we're
not
overwhelming
our
justice
courts
with
respect
to
battery
domestic
violence
cases
that
that's
one
example
I
can
give
you.
We
have
institute
other
practices
by
sharing
what
they
are
specifically,
though,
I'm
I'm
not
prepared
to
discuss.
But
what
I'll
do
is
I'll
reach
out
to
the
team
chief
of
my
screening
unit
and
get
back
to
you
offline.
H
Jennifer
noble
for
the
record
assemblywoman
when
I
think
that
we
have
the
same
issues
in
terms
of
figuring
out
what
to
do
with
our
domestic
violence
cases.
We
really
are
trying
to
look
for
that
power
and
control
dynamic,
but
we're
also
mindful
that
that
might
not
necessarily
be
something
that
is
apparent
to
us
just
from
looking
at
a
police
report,
so
you
could
have
a
battery
which
is
as
simple
as
you
know.
He
slapped
the
spatula
out
of
my
hand
and
threw
his
dinner
at
me
right
and
that
doesn't
sound
great.
H
It
sounds
pretty
bad,
but
it
doesn't
sound
as
bad
as
somebody
who's
being
punched
in
the
face
or
thrown
down
the
stairs.
But
what
you
don't
have
is
the
history
of
that
victim.
You
don't
know
what's
going
on
in
that
house,
and
you
don't
know
what
that
one
incident
that
you
know
about
is
symptomatic
of,
and
so
that's
something
that
concerns
me,
especially
in
a
time
where
we
don't
have
kids
going
to
school,
that
might
be
able
to
report
what's
going
on
in
their
home
and
everyone's
isolated.
H
C
One
more
follow-up.
Actually,
this
is
a
perfect
segue,
because
you
were
talking
about
battery
domestic
violence
in
that
I
know
in
talking
with
some
of
the
victim
advocacy
and
survivor
groups,
as
well
as
some
of
the
groups
that
work
with
offenders
in
this
area,
that
and
also
speaking
with
las
vegas
metropolitan
police
department.
C
They
routinely
are
doing
those
lethality
assessments
or
domestic
violence
index
like
assessments,
and
they
are
part
of
the
arrest
report
and
I'm
wondering
if
each
of
your
offices
are
including
that
in
their
assessment
at
screening
or
even
in
that,
I
think
it's
one
of
those
things.
I
don't
see
it-
I
don't
know
if
you're
not
receiving
them
or
if
it's
something
that
you're
able
to
take
into
consideration.
I
know
that
there's
several
like
bill
draft
requests
that
are
going
to
be
addressing
battery
domestic
violence
and
kind
of
making
that
more
evidence-based
and
reasonable.
G
Jon
jones,
on
behalf
of
the
clark
county
district
attorney's
office,
I'm
going
to
have
to
get
back
to
you
on
that
question.
To
to
be
perfectly
honest,
I
I
can't
remember
seeing
it
in
a
packet,
but
I
don't
typically
handle
domestic
violence
cases.
We
have
a
unit
who
specializes
in
these
cases
due
to
their
unique
nature,
as
miss
noble
just
outlined.
So
I
will
again
I
don't
mean
to
keep
punting
here,
but
I
promise
I
will
reach
out
to
my
domestic
violence
unit
and
get
back
to
you
on
that
question.
H
Jennifer,
noble
washer
county
district
attorney's
office.
I
know
we
do
have
prosecutors
who
sit
on
the
domestic
fatality
review
committee
and
try
to
learn
lessons
from
tragedies
that
have
happened
prior
to
that
and
look
at
timelines,
etc.
But
in
terms
of
that
type
of
information
being
given
to
us
regarding
a
particular
case,
no,
I
don't
believe
we're
receiving
that
in
reports
we're
just
trying
to
apply
what
we've
learned
from
things
that
have
happened
in
the
past
to
what
we
see
in
the
police
report:
the
photographs,
statements
of
the
victim,
etc.
A
Okay,
any
further
questions
give
me
a
show
of
hands.
If
there's
a
question
out
there
that
hasn't
been
asked.
I
don't
see
anyone,
mr
mr
jones,
miss
noble.
I
had
a
really
quick
question.
I
don't
know
if
you
know
the
answer
to
this.
I
probably
should
have
asked
the
courts
yesterday,
but
with
most
hearings
going
online
or
virtual
other
than
the
I
forget
what
it's
called
in
clark
county,
but
the
detainment
hearings
are
still
in
person,
but
do
you
know?
Is
there
an
ability
for
members
of
the
public
or
members
of
this
committee?
A
If
we
have
time
to
be
able
to
tune
in
online
to
watch,
you
know
a
district
court
calendar
or
a
justice
court
calendar?
Do
you
know
if
that
option
is
available
and
if
so,
if
you
can
point
us
to
how
we
would
find
that
out
or
I
could
reach
out
to
the
courts
as
well,
to
ask.
H
Jennifer,
noble
washoe,
county
district
attorney's
office.
Yes,
on
the
second
judicial
district
court
website
each
day
you
will
be
able
to
see
what
the
criminal
calendar
is
for
each
judge
and
you
can
click
on
links
that
let
you
observe
the
hearings
in
real
time.
So
we
do
have
that
it's.
I
believe,
washoecourts.us.
G
G
So
I
can
assist
that
in
getting
the
committee
any
links
that
they
want
to
observe
a
hearing
with
the
judge's
permission,
of
course,
and
or
if
not,
you
can
directly
reach
out
to
the
courts,
but
they
are
available
and
you
can't
observe,
via
blue
jeans,.
A
Great,
thank
you
too,
and
you
know
it's
hard
for
us,
obviously,
because
we
meet
at
eight
in
the
morning
most
days,
which
I
think
conflicts
typically
with
the
calendars
but
committee
members.
If
there
are
days
where
we
don't
have
committee
and
there
will
be
such
days,
I
promise
you
that
would
be
a
good
use
of
your
time.
If
you
don't
have
experience
in
this
world
at
all,
just
to
even
tune
in
to
to
watch
a
sentencing
hearing
or
to
watch
a
defendant
enter
a
plea
or
to
watch
a
preliminary
hearing
in
justice
court.
A
A
I've
said
for
years,
I'd
love
to
take
the
committee
on
a
field
trip
up
to
some
of
the
courtrooms
around
here,
but
it's
just
hasn't
happened
yet
and
probably
not
going
to
happen
this
session
unless
things
really
change
for
the
better.
Before
the
end
of
session,
but
I
do
commend
that
to
you-
I
think
it's
invaluable
to
see
these
things
up
close
and
personal.
A
Mr
jones.
Miss
noble
want
to
thank
you
so
much
for
your
patience
this
morning
for
presenting
to
the
committee
and
for
answering
questions.
As
you
guys
know,
you'll
be
frequent
participants
in
these
committee
hearings
and
we're
certainly
hopeful
that
we
will
be
able
to
get
the
building
open
before
the
end
of
session
and
have
you
here
in
person.
A
Have
a
great
day,
okay,
committee
members,
we
are
going
to
close
that
agenda
item
and
we're
now
going
to
move
on
to
our
period
of
public
comment.
I
do
believe
we
have
some
folks
in
the
public
comment
line.
So
just
as
a
reminder
for
folks
on
the
line
and
listening
in
we're
going
to
have
up
to
30
minutes
of
public
comment,
each
speaker
will
have
two
minutes
to
provide
public
comment.
A
I
will
gently
remind
you
when
that
two
minutes
has
expired,
if
you're
still
talking
and
if
you
could
just
remember
to
please
state
your
name
before
you
start
speaking.
That
would
be
really
really
helpful,
so
bps.
If
we
could
go
to
the
public
comment
line,
please
and
if
we
have
callers
there,
if
we
could
have
the
first
one
proceed.
Thank
you.
D
D
T-O-N-J-A-B-R-O-W-N
I
want
to
bring
up
ab-104
bill,
I
believe,
by
removing
the
words
of
imprisonment
it
put.
It
doesn't
give
the
true
amount
of
the
injustice
that
has
been
done
to
that
individual.
The
person
may
have
spent
months
or
possibly
years
incarcerated
in
our
jails
and
have
me,
and
especially
dealing
with
the
covet.
Who
knows
how
long
it
would
take.
I
believe
that
time
should
begin
at
the
time
of
arrest
when
dealing
with
the
jail
time.
A
person
will
receive
credit
for
those
days
to
go
towards
their
release.
D
D
So
if
the
inmates
are
appealing
their
convictions
who
have
maintained
their
innocence
and
if
they
die
before
it's
over
for
them,
their
loved
one
justice
should
not
die
because
of
their
because
of
their
death.
Now
I
want
to
briefly
touch
on
what
miss
noble
has
said.
There
are
some
new
members,
so
I'm
just
going
to
make
it
really
brief.
In
2009,
the
honorable
judge,
brent
adams
ordered
district
attorney,
dick
gamak
to
turn
over
the
entire
file.
D
D
I
actually
sat
down
with
the
defendant's
public
defender
where
she
admitted
to
me.
She
had
committed
perjury
during
the
1991
post-conviction
hearing.
I
will
be
providing
you
approximately
a
75-page
sworn
affidavit
and
in
this
affidavit
it
goes
into
great
detail
on
how
far
our
judicial
system
went
to
cover
up
their
mistakes
at
the
expense
of
an
innocent
person.
D
Yes,
also
on
the
imprisonment
time,
I
think
we
need
to
oh
hold
on
I've
lost
the
page.
I'm
sorry
I've
got
the
dogs
kind
of
playing
with
each
other
behind
me
and
interfering
with
what
I'm
trying
to
say,
and
I'm
sorry
about
that,
oh
yeah,
and
so
on
sections.
D
Three,
a
one
and
two,
a
b
and
c
I'd
like
to
see,
with
the
exception
of
those
who
were
exonerated
after
death
or
posthumously,
the
date
should
begin
at
the
time
the
person
would
have
become
eligible
for
parole
to
the
street.
A
Thank
you,
miss
brown,
it's
good
to
hear
from
you
in
public
comment,
and
I
will
remind
you
that
should
assembly
bill
104
be
agendize
for
a
hearing
we'll
take
testimony
on
that
particular
bill
at
that
time
and
and
you'll
be
able
to
offer
some
comments
there
as
well.
So
thank
you,
bps.
Anybody
else
on
the
line
for
public
comment.
D
With
the
caller,
with
the
last
three
digits
of
164,
please
slowly
state
your
name
and
then
spell
your
name
for
the
record.
You
will
have
two
minutes
and
you
may
begin
now:
ann
marie
grant
a-n-n-e-m-a-r-I-e
grant
g-r-a-n-t
sister
of
thomas
purdy
murdered
by
reno
pd
in
washoe
county
sheriff.
My
brother
was
hog
tied
during
a
mental
health
crisis
for
40
minutes
and
then
asphyxiated
by
deputies.
D
So
I'm
not
sure
what
she's
actually
accurate,
but
they've
only
reviewed-
and
I
put
that
in
air-
quotes
reviewed
one
case
and
I
happen
to
know
that
they
didn't
do
any
type
of
actual
review
of
the
case,
because
I
went
to
one
of
the
courthouses
with
miss
brown,
who
was
a
previous
caller
and
one
of
the
court
decisions
wasn't
even
able
to
be
pulled
up
online
and
it
was
actually
an
archive
off-site
where
nobody
could
have
access
to
it
until
it
had
been
requested,
which
it
had
not.
D
So
the
da's
office
really
isn't
doing
anything
to
help
people
who
are
wrongfully
convicted.
Their
position
is,
is
a
jury
of
12
people
can't
make.
They
can't
make
a
better
decision
than
a
jury
of
12
people,
but
we
all
know
that
eyewitness
identification
is
the
number
one
you
know
for
wrongful
convictions.
D
D
D
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much.
If
caller167
is
out
there
and
can
hear
us,
there
might
be
some
technical
difficulties,
but
please
feel
free
to
either
email
a
public
comment
or
you
could
tune
in
to
a
future
meeting
of
assembly
judiciary
to
provide
that
public
comment.
So
at
this
time,
we'll
close
the
public
comment
portion
of
the
meeting
before
we
get
to
announcements,
anything
from
any
committee
members-
okay,
I
don't
see
anything
so
a
committee
again
want
to
thank
you.
I
know
it
was.
A
It
was
a
pretty
long
morning
with
a
couple
of
presentations
and
you're,
probably
on
information
overload,
which
is
to
be
expected
this
early
in
the
session,
but
we'll
we
will
get
through
this
and
just
looking
looking
ahead
to
what
comes
next
in
the
assembly
judiciary
committee.
Continuing
on
with
what
I
have
called
justice
week
tomorrow.
We
have
a
couple
of
presentations
from
our
public
defender
representative.
A
So
today
we
heard
from
the
district
attorneys
tomorrow
we'll
have
the
public
defenders
we're
also
going
to
hear
from
chief
justice
hardesty
of
the
supreme
court
and
then
we're
going
to
hear
our
first
bill
tomorrow
morning
as
well.
That's
assembly
bill.
17
that
was
referenced
by
the
division
of
parole
and
probation,
about
discharges
from
probation,
so
that'll
be
an
exciting
morning
when
we
finally
have
a
chance
to
hear
our
first
bill
again
thursday.
A
A
There
monday
the
15th
will
start
at
nine
o'clock
as
well,
so
that'll
be
a
little
bit
later
than
normal,
and
then
we
have
bills,
hearings,
bill
hearings
on
tuesday
and
wednesday,
so
as
bills
come
in
we'll
try
to
get
those
scheduled
for
hearing,
and
I
think
that's
it
on
the
assembly
judiciary
committee
front.
So
I
guess
I
will
see
all
of
you
tomorrow
morning
at
eight
o'clock
and
we're
gonna.
A
I
want
to
thank
everyone
for
tuning
in
for
logging
in
so
early
today,
because
I
think
we're
gonna
need
the
full
three
plus
hours
tomorrow
as
well.
So
if
everyone
can
make
an
effort
to
to
be
logged
on
and
ready
to
go
by,
eight
o'clock
that'll
help
and
we
don't
wanna,
keep
chief
justice
hardesty
waiting
any
longer
than
we
have
to
so.
Thank
you
all
again
for
this
morning's
meeting.
We'll
see
you
tomorrow
morning.
This
meeting
is.