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A
C
If
you
could,
please
remember
to
mute
yourself
when
you're,
not
speaking,
that'll
help
with
the
audio
feedback
and
then,
if
you
are
presenting
today,
and
particularly
when
you
answer
questions,
could
you
please
make
sure
to
state
your
name
each
time
before
you
speak?
That
will
help
our
secretary
draft
compose
accurate
minutes
for
the
meeting
we
do
expect
courtesy
and
respect
in
our
interactions
with
one
another.
C
We
don't
always
agree
on
policy,
that's
perfectly
acceptable,
but
we
need
to
make
sure
we're
being
respectful
of
one
another
of
this
legislative
process
and,
most
importantly,
our
hard-working
staff.
Finally,
many
members
will
be
using
multiple
devices
to
access
this
meeting,
including
desktops
laptops,
extra
monitors,
iphones
and
ipads.
So
if
members
appear
to
be
looking
away,
please
don't
see
that
as
a
sign
of
disrespect,
they're
most
likely
looking
at
exhibits
or
notes
or
trying
to
participate
in
this
remote
hearings.
C
So
with
that
behind
us
committee,
the
first
thing
I'd
like
to
do
this
will
probably
come
as
no
surprise
is.
Do
some
committee
bill
introductions
and
again
I
walked
in
this
morning
to
four
additional
committee
bdrs,
which
means
that
legal
has
probably
been
working
through
the
night,
so
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
them
for
working
so
hard
to
get
these
bills
introduced.
So
what
I'll
do
is
list
these
four
off
and
then
I'll?
Take
one
motion,
a
second
and
we'll
vote
and
be
done
with
this
order
of
business.
C
C
C
Yes,
chairman
yeager,
yes,
the
motion
does
carry
everyone
present
voted
in
favor.
Thank
you
committee.
There's
a
chance.
We
may
get
some
more
committee
bill
draft
requests
during
this
meeting,
I'm
not
sure
yet,
but
if
we
do
we'll
take
those
when
we
get
them
and
want
to
welcome
to
the
committee
our
legal
counsel,
mr
wilkinson,
it's
good
to
see
you
hope
you
were
able
to
get
some
sleep
last
night,
I'm
sure
it
was
a
late
night
of
drafting
bills.
C
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
all
the
work
that
you're
doing
and
I
neglected
to
mention
committee.
It
is
day
54
of
the
81st
session.
If
anybody
was
wondering
so
we're
almost
at
the
halfway
point.
We
have
two
bills
on
the
agenda.
Today
we
are
going
to
take
the
bills
in
reverse
order
at
the
request
of
one
of
the
sponsors.
C
So
at
this
time
I'm
going
to
open
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
350
assembly
bill
350
revises
provisions
relating
to
certain
crimes
against
animals
and
before
I
turn
it
over
for
the
presentation,
let
committee
members
and
members
of
the
public
know
that
there
are
a
couple
of
exhibits
just
confirming
this.
There
are
two
exhibits
up
on
nellis
that
are
proposed.
Amendments
from
assemblywoman
one
is
from
assemblywoman
hardy
and
one
is
from
the
humane
society
of
the
us.
B
Which,
I
believe
is
a
friendly
amendment,
but
we'll
get
that
confirmed
from
the
sponsor.
So
I
want
to
welcome
to
the
virtual
presentation
table
our
own
assemblywoman
hardy
and
I
believe
she
may
have
some
others
to
present
with
her,
including
assemblyman
levitt,
so
welcome
to
the
assembly,
judiciary,
committee
and
we'll
give
you
a
chance
to
present
and
then
I'm
sure
we'll
have
some
questions.
So
the
floor
is
yours.
B
D
Assembly
district
22
in
southern
nevada.
Today
I
am
presenting
assembly
bill
350
for
your
consideration
and,
as
as
was
mentioned,
I
also
have
assembling
and
leavitt
and
a
couple
of
others
that
will
be
helping
with
the
presentation
today.
C
Crimes,
for
example,
dogfighting
and
cockfighting
circles
not
only
hurt
the
animals,
but
they
also
bring
drugs
and
illegal
firearms
to
areas
where
they
operate.
Research
also
shows
a
strong
correlation
between
animal
abuse
and
domestic
violence.
Aggressors
will
control
their
victims
by
hurting
or
threatening
to
kill
their
pets.
Further.
The
fbi
and
other
law
enforcement
agencies
report
that
nearly
all
serial
killers
have
a
history
of
torturing
or
killing
animals.
C
Many
argue
there
have
been
a
number
of
horrific
cases
of
animal
abuse
where
mandatory
assessment
or
treatment
and
prison
time
for
the
offenders
should
have
been
imposed,
but
the
punishment
never
seemed
sufficient
to
address
these
concerns
of
the
public.
Some
counties
such
as
suffolk
county,
new
york,
hillsborough
county
and
florida
and
cook
county
in
illinois
have
localized
offender
registries.
C
B
Mississippi
new
jersey
and
new
york
have
similar
legislative
measures
pending
this
year.
So
that
concludes
my
opening
remarks
for
av
350..
It
could
be
argued
that
implementing
an
animal
abuse
registry
in
our
state
is
not
only
a
worthwhile
endeavor
to
save
animals
lives,
but
an
effort
to
protect
human
lives
as
well.
B
E
And
then
he
will
do
the
remainder
of
the
presentation
going
through
the
bill
and
we
also
have
liam
lasseter
on
from
the
humane
society
to
address
that
amendment
which,
as
you
said,
are
friendly
amendments.
So
I
will
turn
it
over
now
to
mr
levitt
assemblyman
levitt.
Thank
you,
assemblywoman
hardy.
I
appreciate
that
mr
levitt
assemblyman
leavitt
welcome
back
to
the
assembly
judiciary
committee
for
the
second
day
in
a
row
and
I'm
on
a
roll
here
in
judiciary.
E
So
thank
you
for
that.
Chairman
yeager
good
morning
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record,
I'm
glenn
levitt
assembly
district
23
in
southern
nevada.
E
F
County
regional
animal
services
has
20
cruelty
cases
in
in
adjudication
in
the
judication
process,
nine
of
which
are
felonies.
In
the
previous
six
years
there
was
a
total
of
four
felony
cases
in
january.
F
C
And
our
state
have
seen
significant
increases
in
the
number
of
individuals
prosecuted
for
crimes
against
animals.
I
believe
this
bill
is
a
step
in
the
right
direction
and
I
appreciate
the
input
from
the
stakeholders
and
now
I
I
I
would
ask
the
chair
to
turn
the
time
over
to
eric
roy
to
go
over
the
bill
and
its
conceptual
amendments.
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Assembly
and
levitt
appreciate
those
remarks.
Mr
roy
welcome
to
the
assembly
judiciary
committee
and
please
proceed
yes,
eric
roy
here
good
morning,
chair
yeager
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record.
I
am
eric
roy
today
we'll
go
over
assembly
bill
350
for
your
consideration.
C
F
F
C
Section
3
of
the
bill
requires
the
director
of
the
state
department
of
agriculture
to
select
a
non-profit
organization
to
establish
and
maintain
a
statewide
animal
abuser
registry
website.
The
nonprofit
will
make
sure
that
the
website
offers
public
access
to
an
offender's,
full
name
most
recent
photo
and
a
list
of
each
offense
for
which
the
offender
was
convicted.
C
C
C
G
A
A
Thank
you
for
your
testimony,
mr
roy
miss
lasseter.
I
want
to
give
you
a
chance
to
talk
about
the
amendment
that
you
proposed
and
then
we'll
take
some
questions.
Lord.
Thank
you.
This
is
leanne
lasseter
for
the
record,
and
I
just
want
to
clarify
for
the
committee
that
I
am
representing
the
humane
society
of
the
united
states
and
not
your
local
humane
society.
A
G
B
Where
they
can
do
a
maximum
of
five
years
or
they
can
do
nothing
at
all,
depending
on
the
specific
circumstances,
so.
H
It
gives
judges
a
very
wide
range
of
sentencing,
options
and
discretion
on
those
lower
level
neglect
type
offenses.
The
reason
it's
important
to
have
those
misdemeanor
offenses
addressed
is
because
it
typically
includes
animal
cruelty
crimes
like
hoarding
that
you
know
have
already
been
mentioned
this
morning:
75
cats,
those
those
typically
fall
under
the
neglect.
A
These
include
things
that
we
consider
more
violent
crimes,
things
like
dog,
fighting
and
torture.
A
When
people
commit
these
crimes,
they
you
know
they're,
basically
telling
you
that
that
they
have
demonstrated
through
their
actions
that
they
are
not
responsible
animal
owners
and
that
they're
they
could
be
a
danger
to
animals,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
separating
the
more
dangerous
people
from
potential
new
victims.
A
I
think
it's
it's
a
very
important
element
to
any
law.
31
other
states
currently
have
some
prohibition
on
or
limit
on
contact.
H
Providing
authority
to
the
courts
to
limit
contact
with
with
other
animals
for
reasonable.
Excuse
me
for
a
reasonable
period
of
time,
though,
the
law
does
not
require
more
resources,
it
should
not
have
any
fiscal
impact.
It
doesn't
require
more
animal
control
officers,
it
is
enforced
in
their
daily
activity
and
daily
enforcement
duties.
H
Most
animal
control
officers
know
the
outcomes
of
their
court
cases.
They
know
when
there's
a
court
order
prohibiting
contact
and
they
they
can
keep
an
eye
on
those
people
just
in
their
the
daily
course
of
their
job.
So
there's
no
additional
resources
that
should
be
needed,
and
we
just
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
provide
some
language
that
sort
of
expands
on.
What's
already
in.
A
The
bill
and
we're
happy
to
to
answer.
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
presentation
from
the
four
of
you.
I
know
we
have
some
questions,
but
just
while
we're
on
it,
ms
lasseter,
this
could
be
for
you
or
for
mr
roy.
I
just
had
a
question
about
the
amendment
from
the
humane
society.
Certainly
understand
what
you're
trying
to
do.
A
I
guess
my
question
is:
wouldn't
a
sentencing
judge
already
have
the
ability
to
impose
conditions
like
this,
just
as
part
of
their
normal
judicial
powers
in
a
sentencing
proceeding
and
and
you're
correct,
you
know,
as
you
all
know,
judges
can
order
a
number
of
things
and
there.
A
The
difference
here
is
that
they
are
used
to
providing
no
contact
orders
in,
let's
say
a
child
abuse
case
or
a
domestic
violence
case,
but
they
they
see
a
lot
more
of
those
you
know,
and
maybe
in
a
some
of
your
larger
cities,
you
have
a
prosecutor
who
sort
of
catches
all
the
animal
cases
that.
H
Come
into
their
office
they're
very
familiar
with
the
law,
they're
very
familiar
with
with
ways
to
stop
reoffending
and
some
of
the
courts
that
maybe
don't
get
as
many
animal
cases
they
they
don't
think
to
do
this.
We
think
it's
important
to
codify
to
make
sure
that
especially
the
more
dangerous
offenders
are
not
allowed
to
walk
out
of
a
courtroom.
A
Thank
you,
miss
lasseter
and
then
the
other
question
that
I
have
before
I'll
hand
it
over
to
others
assemblywoman
hardy.
You
had
mentioned
that
tennessee,
I
believe,
was
the
only
state.
That's
enacted
this.
So
far,
although
it
sounds
like
there
are
a
number
of
states
considering
similar
legislation,
I
just
wondered:
if
anybody
knew
how
tennessee
has
it
structured
in
terms
of
do
this?
Does
the
state
or
county
run
the
registry,
or
is
it
as
specified
in
assembly
bill
350,
where
a
non-profit
runs
it?
H
That,
because,
as
she
said,
there
are
31
other
states
that
have
this
provision,
prohibition
on
contact,
so
she
could
just
clarify
the
difference
between
the
states
with
the
registries
and
the
just
no
contact
sure
yeah.
The
the
registry
would
be
completely
separate
from
miss
lassiter.
If
you
could
just
remember
to
state
your
name,
please,
I'm
so
sorry,
liam
laughter
for
the
record.
The
the
abuser
registry
and
the
prohibiting
future
ownership
language
are
are
very
separate.
The
the
way-
and
I
can
speak
to
this
because
I
live
in
nashville.
H
If
you
can't
tell
from
the
accent
the
abuser
registry
in
tennessee,
is
handled
by
the
clerk
of
court
and
the
tennessee
bureau
of
investigation.
A
So
they
that
that
database
lives
with
them
and
it's
updated
annually
through
clerks,
sending
that
information.
It
has
very
few
people
on
it.
It
is
limited
to
felonies
and
it's
it's
one
of
the
reasons
that
that
we
remain
mutual
on
a
lot
of
the
registries
and
we
really
focus
our
attention
more
on
prohibiting
contact
with
animals.
A
A
Thank
you.
Miss
lasseter
and
now,
of
course,
you've
made
me
long
to
visit
nashville
again
and
get
back
on
broadway.
So
hopefully
that
will
happen
very
soon
after
session.
We
have
a
number
of
other
questions
and
so
committee
members,
and
actually
before
I
get
there.
Let
me
note
for
the
record
that
assemblyman
miller
has
joined
us.
He
joins
us
a
little
while
ago.
So,
madam
secretary,
if
you
could
mark
him
present,
I
would
appreciate
it
so
here's
the
order
I
have
so
far
for
questions
and
I'm
sure
there'll
be
some
additional
ones.
A
We'll
start
with
vice
chair
wynn,
then
assemblyman
wheeler,
assemblywoman,
cohen,
assemblywoman,
gonzalez
and
assemblywoman
hanson.
So
please
go
ahead
vice
chair.
Thank
you.
Oh
excuse
me.
Thank
you,
chair
yeager.
Thank
you
for
bringing
this
bill.
I
think
you
know.
I
can't
imagine
anyone
on
this
committee
not
having
concerns
about
animal
abuse,
but
I
I
just
wanted
to
say
that.
A
Saw
this
bill,
I
went
back
and
I
did
a
little
bit
of
research
and
watched
some
of
the
previous.
Like
committee
hearings,
there
was
one
in
2017
with
this
similar
issue,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
say.
I
really
appreciate
the
amendments
brought
forward
by
assemblywoman
hardy
and
assemblyman
levitt,
as
well
as
the
proposed
amendment
from
the
humane
society.
I
think
it
gives
me
a
lot
of
comfort
and
knowing
that
we
are
headed
on
the
right
track
for
a
good
policy
in
this
area.
So
more
of
a
comment
and
less
of.
B
Thank
you
vice
chair,
we'll
go
next
to
assemblyman,
wheeler,
hey,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
when
we
go
to
nashville,
let's
make
sure
we
get
to
margaritaville
so.
F
It's
great,
but
my
question.
Actually
I
think
probably
ms
lasseter
would
be
able
to
answer
this
in
the
amendment
that
the
humane
society
put
in
number.
Four
is
any
animal
involved
in
a
violation
described
in
this
section
shall
be
forfeited
to
the
state.
F
F
What
kind
of
facilities
do
they
have,
etc?
You
have
to
transfer
maybe
to
another
state
if
the
facilities
aren't
ready
and
then
there's
always
exotic
animals.
So
how
do
you
handle
that?
I'm
just
wondering
about
the
logistics
of
this
sure
and
and
you're
right?
It
absolutely
does
depend
on
the
species
of
animal
that
you're
dealing
with.
A
Center
around
hoarding,
which
are
typically
99
of
the
cases,
are
going
to
be
dogs
and
cats
that
your
local
shelters
can
handle
and-
and
let
me
just
say
that
they
also
have
just
because
they're
forfeited
to
the
state,
animal
control,
officers
and
shelters.
Have
the
option
of
you
know
taking
those
animals
to
their
shelter,
placing
them
for
adoption,
or
they
have
the
option
of
asking
a
judge
to
decide
where
those
animals
go.
Okay,
I
think
follow
up
mr
church.
A
Please
go
ahead,
hey
thank
you.
I
understand
what
you're
saying
so
it
would
be
really
wouldn't
be
to
the
state
it
could
be
to
the
county.
It
could
be
to
a
private
sanctuary,
et
cetera,
and
then
the
follow-up
really
is
in
cases
where
it
turns
out
that
maybe
one
person
in
the
household
was
the
abuser.
The
other
was
not.
The
animal
is
forfeited.
A
What
are
the
regulations
or
laws
to
get
the
animal
back
for
that
other
partner,
if
you
know,
or
some
or
family
member
or
whatever,
who
did
not
abuse
the
animal
right?
You
know
and
that
that's
a
difficult
question.
It
comes
up
a
lot
and
as
long
as
the
person
is
not
living,
the
abuser.
L
That's
left
up
to
the
judge
it
is
but
but
the
key
is
just
like
you
wouldn't
want
a
child
abuser
living
in
the
same
house,
even
though
only
one
parent
abused
the
child
right,
so
you're
you're
in
a
situation
where
you
need
to
limit
access
to
that
animal,
you
know
so
it
it.
It
is
a
difficult
situation
for
someone
who's,
not
abusing
the
animal,
but
the
the
whole
point
here
is
to
separate
the
abuser
from
from
the
animal
and
again
on
lower
level
of
fences.
L
A
The
ownership
or
contact
with
animals
and
in
the
felony
cases
you
know
these
are
the
more
dangerous
people
we're
talking
about
dog
fighters
who
continuously
re-offend
and
people
who
are
actually
torturing
animals.
You
definitely
don't
want
those
in,
and
some
of
you
may
remember
from
a
few
years
ago,
the
animal
sexual
abuse
bill
that
the
legislature,
sorry
the
assembly
passed,
I
think,
2017
or
18,
maybe
when
we
passed
that
bill-
and
it
includes
very
similar
language
to
this-
that
prohibits
contact
with
animals
as
well.
A
L
Out
a
couple
of
the
other
questions
that
were
out
there
so
good
of
all
at
least
three
of
you
to
be
thinking
of
the
same
question
at
the
same
time,
I'm
good
at
it.
L
Thank
you,
chair
yeager,
and
thank
you
all
for
the
presentation.
My
question
is
about
section
4
and
the
registry.
If
someone's
put
on
the
registry.
A
The
the
criminal
charges,
the
the
conviction
and
they
win
the
appeal:
what's
the
process
for
coming
off
of
the
registry,
I
I
think
I
can
take
that
this
is
eric
roy
okay.
So,
with
regard
to
the
registry,
the
registry
requires
the
individual
who
has
been
convicted
to
be
on
the
registry
for
a
period
of
10
years.
A
Now,
assuming
you
have
a
situation
where
you
have
an
appeal
by
the
convicted
individual
that
person
who
is
the
appellant
if
they
win
that
appeal
and
their
conviction
is
overturned,
the
onus
would
be
on
them
to
simply
submit
the
the
court
order
that
overturns
the
conviction
to
the
registry,
and
then,
at
that
point
in
time
the
registry
can
read
it,
determine
the
conviction's
been
overturned
and
then
remove
the
individual
from
the
registry.
A
Thank
you
and
we
have
another
question
share.
Yes,
please
or
or
a
comment
I
would
just
so
I
noticed
in
I
don't
know
this
seems
to
be
a
theme
of
mine
this
this
session.
In
section
two,
it
says
that
the
if
a
person
is
required
to
register
they
they
need
to
do
so
no
later
than
three
business
days
after,
and
I
would
just
ask
if
this
build
moves
forward.
A
If
you
look
at
possibly
changing
that
to
calendar
days
or
judicial
days
instead
of
business
days,
just
to
make
it
more
for
everyone
in
their
council.
Thank
you
eric
rugging.
We
would
be
agreeable
to
that.
There's
there's
no
issue
with
that.
A
Thank
you,
assemblywoman
gonzalez,
did
you
have
a
question
or
was
yours
asked
already?
Yes,
I
have
a
few
questions.
Okay,
please,
please
go
ahead.
Assemblywoman,
gonzalez
district
16
for
the
record.
Thank
you
so
much
cheer
so,
like
I
said
I
kind
of
have
a
few
questions
number
one.
I
wanted
to
know
why
we're
classifying
dog
fighters
with
people
who
hoard
animals
that
most
likely
have
a
mental
illness,
just
kind
of
wondering
how
how
hoarding
animals
is
kind
of
the
level
of
fighting
dogs.
A
If
the
state
determines
that
the
crime
is
a
misdemeanor,
then
there
is
a
certain
subject
penalty,
which
is
less
severe
if
it's
determined
to
be
a
felony
offense,
then
in
that
case,
the
the
requirements
are
more
strict,
for
example,
if,
if
you're
convicted
of
a
felony,
the
prohibition
against
ownership
is
for
a
period
of
no
less
than
five
and
no
more
than
15
years,
if
you're
convicted
of
a
misdemeanor,
then
it
is
from
zero
you'll
be
prohibited
from
ownership
from
a
period
of
zero
up
to
five
years.
A
So
it
really
just
depends
on
how
the
crime
is
classified
if
it's
classified
as
a
misdemeanor
or
as
a
felony
and
then
with
respect
to
the
registry,
an
individual
is
not
required
to
submit
to
the
registry
unless
they're
convicted
of
a
felony
misdemeanor
offenses
do
not
require
religious
registration
in
the
registry,
unless
the
crime
that
you
are
convicted
of
is
a
felony.
A
Thank
you,
cecilia.
I'm
sorry.
I
saw
the
woman
gonzales
district
16
for
the
record
and
then
I
was
also
wondering
in
section
three
of
the
bill
it
discusses,
establishes
and
maintains
a
statewide
animal
abuse
registry
and
that
the
director
may
terminate
the
authority
of
the
select,
non-profit
and
select
another
non-profit.
I
kind
of
have
a
lot
of
reservations
about
that.
So,
if
I'm
the
director-
and
I
don't-
you
know
like
this
one
organization
that
has
the
registry.
L
I'm
just
curious
what
prevents
things
like
political-
I
don't
know
discourse
from
me
taking
this
registry
from
one
non-profit
organization
and
giving
it
to
another,
just
if,
if
I
don't
like
it,
but
there's
nothing
within
the
the
legend.
Mr
mr
roy,
please
state
your
name
before
you
applaud
the
question
eric
roy
again.
Nothing
within
this
statute
would
prohibit
the
the
director
from
doing
that
with
the
department
of
agriculture.
L
L
So
I
mean
we
would
assume
that
there's
no
financial
incentive
for
a
change
of
ownership
of
the
registry
to
be
incentivized,
but
beyond
that,
there's
nothing
specifically
within
the
legislation.
The
proposed
legislation
that
would
limit
the
department
of
agriculture
from
I
guess,
modifying
who
controls
the
registry.
L
But
if
you
have
any
suggestions,
we're
open-minded
to
any
potential
amendments
that
you
might
have
in
mind.
If
you
think.
A
That
that's
an
issue.
Thank
you
so
much
assemblywoman,
gonzales
district
16
for
the
record.
I
do
kind
of
find
it
an
issue
because
it
just
gives
a
lot
of
power
where
this
data
about
people's
information
can
just
be.
I'm
also
a
little
reserved
for
a
non-profit
to
have
this
data
on
people
that
could
potentially
lead
to
them
being
more
incarcerated.
A
What
is
the
security
around
that
so
eric
roy
again,
so
the
bill
requires
that
the
information
that's
provided
on
the
registry
is
simply
public
record,
so
the
registry
will
have
will
be
in
no
greater
position
than
any
individual
on
the
street
to
identify
this
information.
This
is
public
record.
B
Available
information
that
they
possess.
Thank
you
so
much
one
last
question:
assemblywoman
gonzalez
for
the
record,
so
isn't
this
data
that
organizations
can
just
collect
and
post
on
their
websites
if
they
wanted
to?
Why
is
there
a
need
to
have.
G
Someone
go
on
this
registry,
assemblywoman
cohen
kind
of
touched
on
the
three
days.
It's
kind
of.
I
have
reservations
about
that
as
well,
because
if
somebody
is
incarcerated,
they're,
most
likely
not
going
to
be
able
to
register
in
three
days.
G
G
Great
great
question:
eric
roygan
responded
to
that
question,
so
it
is
public
information,
but
it
pulling
up
someone's
criminal
history
is
not
something
that
you
know.
It's.
A
It's
not
it,
I'm
not
saying
it's
a
difficult
thing
to
do,
but
it
may
be
something
that
a
lot
of
people
don't
understand.
People
may
not
know
that
they
have
that
option.
Some
organizations
may
be
more
privy
to
that
information
than
others,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
this
information
is
available
for
any
and
all
people
who
may
want
to
look
at
this.
So
let's
say
we
have,
you
know
an
individual
who's.
A
Who
has
you
know
puppies
and
they're
they're
just
trying
to
sell
their
puppies
and
they
don't
really
understand
how
to
log
into
a
court's
website
and
check
through
the
various
counties
for
various
crimes,
etc.
They
can
simply
log
into
the
registry,
which
is
very
user
friendly,
it's
just
a
website,
and
then
they
can
identify
the
people
who
are
on
the
registry
there.
A
G
B
Can
access
it
and
can
access
it
easily
and
quickly,
so
you
know
the
different.
You
know:
animal
control,
various
shelters,
private
citizens
there's
a
lot
of
different
people
who
may
want
to
check
this
information.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
it's
it's
easily
identifiable
information.
B
With
regard
to
the
second
part
of
your
question,
absolutely
I
agree
we
wouldn't
want
to
have
people
incarcerated
and
then
not
be
able
to
register
during
their
period
of
incarceration
be
penalized
as
a
result.
So
what
this
bill?
Does
it
states
that,
if
you
are
incarcerated,
you
are
not
required
to
submit
to
the
registry
until
three
days
after
your
release
from
the
incarceration,
so
the
bill
does
protect
against
that.
I
Thank
you,
assemblywoman
hanson
was
your
question
answered,
or
did
you
have
another
one?
Okay,
it
looks
like
her
question
was
answered
so
I'll
go
next
to
assemblyman
miller.
I
Thank
you,
sherry
yeager.
I
just
I
have
a
question
as
it
relates
to.
E
Enforcing-
and
you
know
once
the
once
they're
put
on
this
registry
and
they're
not
allowed
to
have
content
contact
or
own
an
animal
when
you
know
animal
ownership
is
very
very
easily
easy.
Having
contact
with
animals
is
very,
very
easy.
It
seems
like
you
know.
Offenders
so
to
speak,
could
go
for
years,
owning
animals
again
without
there
being
any
type
of
check
or
or
anything.
So
I'm
just
curious
to
know
how
does
you
know
putting
them
on
the
registry
and
all
of
that
stuff
protect
animals
in
the
future.
E
Great
question
assemblyman
miller,
so
this
is
not
a
perfect
solution.
Unfortunately,
mr
roy
name
for
the
record,
please
I
apologize
eric
roy
great
question,
mr
miller.
This
bill
is
not
a
perfect
solution.
Unfortunately,
we
deem
it
as
a
as
a
start
and
the
beginning
of
a
good
solution.
E
E
Unfortunately,
we
don't
have
a
mechanism
that
you
know
requires
you
know
legal
police
or
animal
control
to
go
to
the
convicted
felon's
house
to
determine
if
they
do
or
do
not
have
an
animal
similar
to
what
a
probation
officer
would
do
in
the
case
that
you
know
the
individuals
on
probation
or
parole.
We
don't
have
that
in
the
build
it
would
be.
There
would
be
a
large
fiscal.
E
E
E
E
Eric
roy
yeah,
yes
great
question,
assemblyman
o'neil.
E
Convicted
felon,
you
know
if
they're
in
an
apartment,
complex,
there's
another
animal
in
the
complex.
B
You
know
that
would
be
permissible.
You
know,
there's
you
know
with
with
you
know:
sex
offenses,
for
instance,
against
children,
there's
limitations
as
to
how
close
or
how
far.
I
F
As
the
immediate
four
four
walls
and
four
corners
of
an
individual's
living
situation
or
household
or
apartment,
etc-
and
I
appreciate
that
mr
roy,
having
worked
in
the
sex
offender
register,
you
have
them
in
my
division.
I
unders
that's
what
I
wanted
to
clarify.
F
That
is
the
private
business
that
I
assume
from
the
reading.
I
want
to
make
that
clear
that
the
state
county.
B
I
M
I
B
The
websites,
if
I
had
it
in
front
of
me,
I
tell
you
what
it
is:
it's
very
basic,
it's
just
a
website
and
on
the
website.
You
know
it's
not
extravagant
and
you
simply
scroll
down
and
it
lists
every
individual
on
the
registry.
B
I
The
name
and
the
convict
and
the
conviction
in
this
particular
case,
I
don't
think
it's
a
particularly
expensive
website.
All
the
onus
is
on
the
convicted
felon
to
register,
so
the
state
doesn't
have
to
contact
the
registry.
Essentially,
you
know.
N
The
the
felon
at
the
conclusion
of
sentencing
is
ordered
by
the
court
to
you
know,
based
on
the
statute
you're
required
to
register
with
the
local
animal
registry.
At
that
point
in
time,
the
the
convicted
felon
has
to
email
or
call
the
registry
and
say
hey
this.
I
was
recently
convicted
for
animal
abuse.
You
know
here's
my
photo,
here's
what
I
was
convicted
of
and
then
they
would
ideally
just
email
that
information
in
whoever
hosts
the
website
would
simply
receive
the
email
upload.
N
The
photo
upload,
the
name
upload
the
conviction
to
the
website
and
maintain
it
I
mean
just
it
would
just
sit
there
and
they
would
have
to
put
some
type
of
calendar
entry
in.
They
would
probably
put
the
data
conviction
in
and
10
years
later
they
would
have
to
remove
it
because
that's
what
it
requires.
So
there's
not
a
lot
from
what
I
can
see.
There's
not
a
lot
of
of
work
really
to
oversee
this
website.
It's
pretty
basic,
it
doesn't
involve
too
much
state
involvement
and
the
non-profit
really
doesn't
doesn't
have
to
do
that
much.
N
If
a
convex
conviction
is
appealed
and
overturned,
they
would
remove
it
at
that
point
in
time,
and
and
that's
about
that's
about
it,
the
you
know
they
don't
have
to
do
too
much
more.
They
don't
have
to
there's
no
onus
on
the
registry
to
contact
any
animal
control
of
the
police,
or
anything
like
that.
All
they
do
is
is
receive
the
email
upload,
the
photo,
the
name
and
the
conviction
it
stays
on
the
website.
They
remove
it
ten
years
later.
Oh
that's
right.
N
The
one
other
thing
that
they
do
according
to
this
bill
is
that
the
host
of
the
website
submits
to
the
state
every
other
year.
The
amounts
the
number
of
individuals
on
the
registry
and
how
many
times
the
registry
has
been
viewed
each
year.
So
they
do
have
that
obligation
too
every
other
year.
They
send
a
a
letter
to
the
state
advising
how
many
people
are
on
the
registry
and
how
many
times
the
website's
been
viewed
so
hope
that
answers
your
question
it
does.
Mr
roy
doesn't
actually
it
answered
my
other
question.
N
F
Have
to
make
some
type
of
contact
by
understand
mail,
email
deliver
and
if
it
takes
more
than
three
days
for
the
post
office
is
now
postal
is
talking
about
five
days
for
first
class.
They
are
not
in
violation,
is
my
understanding
and
then
the
last
part
is:
do
they
have
any
requirement
they
being
the
person
on
the
registry
to
update
their
photograph?
F
F
I
doubt
it
or
a
full
beard.
I
shave
it
off
immediately
after
I
register
something
there
is
no
onus
put
on
them
to
update
anything.
It's
just
a
one-time
contact,
great
great
question,
eric
roy
again,
responding
to
something
o'neil's
question
so
yeah
with
with
regard
to
the
first
part
of
that
question:
yep
the
registered
individual,
simply
emails
or
sends
in
the
the
regular
mail,
their
name,
conviction
and
photo.
That's
all
they
need
to
do
at
that
point
in
time.
F
The
registry
will
upload
the
information
to
the
website
and
then,
with
regard
to
the
second
part
of
your
question,
the
the
convicted
felon
has
the
duty
to
contact
the
registry
if
they
move
so
they
have
a
change
of
address
or
they
have
a
change
of
name
now
they
if
they
simply
grow
more
gray,
hair
or
grow
a
beard.
They
have
no
obligation
to
do
anything,
of
course,
but
if
they
change
their
name
change
their
address
under
those
two
circumstances,
they
have
to
notify
the
registry
of
that
change.
F
Okay,
thank
you
and
I
appreciate
the
information
thank
you
chair
for
allowing
me
the
time
chair.
If
I
could
just
respond
to
one
of
mr
o'neill's
questions
regarding
dwelling,
please.
B
I
Of
dwelling,
so
that
would
would
cover.
I
think,
mr
o'neill's
question
about
that.
I
B
On
the
agenda,
I'm
going
to
take
one
additional
question
before
we
move
to
testimony-
and
I
saw
assemblywoman
kasama-
has
been
waiting
patiently
with
your
hand
up
so
assemblywoman
kasama.
If
you'd
like
to
go
ahead
and
ask
your
question,
thank
you,
chair
assembly,
woman,
heidi
kasama
district
2
for
the
record
one
just
for
the
committee
members
too.
If
you
just
google
tennessee
animal
abuse
registry,
it.
I
G
Will
the
non-profit
push
out
information
to
all
of
those
places
where
you
can
buy
animals
so
they'll
be
on
a
kind
of
an
educational
campaign
sending
out
information
that
I
guess
what
I'm
saying
it's
a
voluntary
push
that
goes
out
to
all
these
organizations
to
say
please
check
these
before
selling
animals
to
these
people.
G
Yes,
eric
roy,
a
great
question:
assemblyman
consumma
the
bill
doesn't
require
it
they're,
not
under
any
obligation
the
nonprofit's,
not
in
any
obligation
to
contact.
G
You
know,
petco,
these
various
pet
stores,
shelters,
the
animal
control
etc,
but
that
is
going
to
be
incentivized.
I
can
tell
you
you
know
if
the
bill
passes,
we're
going
to
definitely
reach
out
to
all
these
various
institutions
and
advise
them
of
the
fact
that
the
registry
does
exist
so
they're
on
notice
of
it.
G
You
know
we
could
maybe
write
into
the
bill
that
that
the
non-profit
that
has
suggested
that
the
non-profits
disseminate
that
information
far
and
wide
within
the
state.
G
Yes,
probably
just
a
suggestion,
I
don't
want
to
make
it
too
overly
burdened,
but
thank
you
so
much
for
that
answer.
Thank
you,
chair.
Thank
you.
I
realize
there
may
be
additional
questions,
but
in
the
interest
of
time
we'll
have
to
move
on
to
testimony.
So
if
members,
you
have
additional
questions,
we
encourage
you
to
reach
out
to
our
sponsors
or
presenters
after
today's
hearing
and
to
our
four
presenters.
Thank
you
for
presenting
we'll
ask
you
to
sit
tight
for
just
a
moment.
G
B
I
D
D
Color
with
the
last
three
digits
zero
three
seven,
please
slowly
state
and
spell
your
name
for
the
record.
You
have
two
minutes
and
may
begin:
tanya
brown
t-o-n-j-a-b-r-o-w-n
good
morning,
chair
yeager
and
members
of
the
judiciary.
I
want
to
thank
the
sponsors
for
bringing
this
bill
forward.
D
I
support
this
bill
in
the
amendment.
I
would
like
to
see
possibly
a
change
to
section
four.
D
Section
four
subsection
c
dealing
with
work
with
an
animal
I'd
like
to
see
it
to
include
public
servants
who
are
canine
handlers
and
the
reason
I
say
this
is
because
I
don't
know
if
you've
seen
any
videos
over
the
last
several
weeks,
but
there
have
been
canine
handlers
throughout
the
country
who
have
been
abusing
their
dogs
one
video
recently
in
carolina.
D
They
made
comments
such
as
we're
good.
No
witnesses
is
your
camera
on
the
other
person
would
say
power's
off
and
he
says
I
think
mine's
on
he's
been
placed
on
administrative
leave,
the
officer
and
this
I'm
an
animal
lover,
and
I
will
tell
you,
I
actually
witnessed
a
horrific
abuse
that
I
mean
the
horrific
abuse.
O
A
Chain
and
pull
him
up
off
the
ground,
he
picks
him
up
raises
him
above
his
head
and
then
he
body
slams
him
to
the
ground.
My
friend
and
I
thought
that
guy
broke
that
dog's
back
I
told
my
friend
hang
on,
I
flipped
the
car
around
and
I
blocked
that
driveway
got
out
of
my
car
and
we
had
some
heated
words
mostly
on
my
part,
and
then
this
man
tells
me
to
mind
my
own
business,
I'm
a
cop.
A
Oh,
that
was
the
wrong
thing
to
say
to
me.
I
look
and
miss
miss
brown.
Miss
brown,
ms
brown,
we're
beyond
two
minutes.
If
you
could,
please
begin
to
wrap
up?
Okay,
yes,
so
I'm
just
saying
with
the
domestic
violence:
they
had
a
child
with
him,
and
I
looked
at
the
mother
and
I
made
the
comment
that,
if
he's
doing
this
to
his
animal
this
dog
in
public,
what
is
he
doing
behind
closed
doors?
A
And
I
think
this
should
include
canine
handlers
as
well,
because
and
if
you
take
a
look
over
at
the
reno
cop
watch,
there's
an
incident
over
there
on
a
video
where
a
reno
police
officer
handler
has
an
individual
on
the
ground,
the
suspect
on
his
knees,
miss
brown,
miss
brown.
I
need
you
to
need
to
wrap
up.
Please!
Okay,
I'm
sorry!
I'm
sorry!
Thank
you.
I
support
this
bill.
The
amendment
have
a
great
day.
A
A
A
Mr
chairman,
if
anybody
has
any
questions
about
how
the
da's
offices
handle
animal
abuse
cases,
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
take
those
questions
offline.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
testimony
and
support
mr
jones
vps.
Let's
take
the
next
caller
and
support
please
to
testify
in
support
of
av
350,
please
press
star
9
now
to
take
your
place.
A
Digits
556,
please
slowly,
states
by
your
national
record.
You
have
two
minutes
and
may
begin
anne-marie
grant
a-n-n-e-m-a-r-I-e
g-r-a-n-t.
I
would
like
to
I
support
the
bill
and
I
echo
the
previous
callers
comment.
Miss
brown
I
too
have,
I
believe,
an
equal
justice
for
all
and
I
believe
public
officials,
law
enforcement
officers
k9
handlers
they
should
the
pill
should
apply
to
them
as
well.
C
C
I
don't
believe
so,
but
if
I'm
wrong,
please
let
me
know
seeing
no
zoom
activity
bps.
Can
we
go
back
to
the
phone
lines
and
see
if
there's
anybody
there
who'd
like
to
testify
in
opposition,
please
to
testify
in
opposition
of
ab350,
please
press
star
9
now
to
take
your
place
in
the
queue
again
to
testify
in
opposition
of
av
350.
Please
press
star,
9
now
to
take
your
place
in
the
queue
color
with
the
last
3
digits
725,
please
slowly
state
and
spell
your
name
for
the
record.
You
have
two
minutes
and
may
begin.
B
I
see
k-s-h-e-p-a-c-k
policy
and
program
associate
with
the
aclu
of
nevada.
I
very
much
enjoy
testifying.
However,
this
is
not
a
bill.
I
am
happy
to
testify
against.
We
very
much
appreciate
assemblywoman
hardy's
amendment
very
much.
B
B
K
Felony
related
to
animal
cruelty
is
required
to
register
for
10
years
and
how
to
have
their
information
made
publicly
accessible
on
a
website.
However,
evidence
strongly
suggests
the
ineffectiveness
of
registries
like
this,
which
only
serve
to
further
criminalize
marginalized
behavior
of
those
mental
health
disorders,
making
registration
and
reintegration
and
rehabilitation
difficult
for
ex-offenders,
and
impose
first
further
penalties
on
individuals
who
fail
to
follow
proper
registration
procedures.
K
Animal
abuse
registries
are
not
supported
by
some
leading
animal
welfare
organizations
like
the
aaspta
and
the
american
candle
club
in
recognition
that
these
registries
are
ineffective,
show
no
evidence
of
having
an
impact
on
incidents
of
animal
cruelty
and
waste
limited
financial
resources
dedicated
to
animal
welfare.
I
sent
the
aspca's
position
statement
to
this
committee
yesterday,
but
for
some
reason
it
was
not
uploaded.
I
will
try
to
do
that
again,
so
that
you
all
can
read
it.
K
K
For
that
reason
I
say
the
fella
say
the
person's
felony
was
for
fighting
rooster,
fighting,
something
we
definitely
oppose,
and
but
they
pose
no
actual
threat
to
a
lizard
or
a
parakeet.
It
is
unclear
if
they
would
be
able
to
live
in
the
house
with
a
family
member
who
has
one
of
those
pets.
It
is
also
unclear
if
something
like
a
fish
tank
in
a
family
member's
house
would
borrow
them
from
living
there.
So
we
hope
to
get
some
clarity
on
that
section
of
the
bill
and
we
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
and.
K
Call
her
with
at
last
three
digits
six
one
one,
please
slowly
state
and
spell
your
name
for
the
record.
You
have
two
minutes
and
may
begin
good
morning,
chairman
jaeger
and
members
of
the
assembly
judiciary
committee.
This
is
john
pirro
j-o-h-n-p-I-r-o
from
the
clark
county
public
defender's
office,
we'd
like
to
thank
assemblywoman
hardy
and
assemblyman
levitt.
K
We
do
oppose
and
for
one
of
the
reasons
why
has
been
talked
about
many
times
in
this
hearing
hoarding
hoarding
is
a
type
of
mental
health
disorder.
That's
been
recognized
in
the
dsm-5
and
subjects
people
with
mental
illness
to
do
things.
I
believe
I've
said
this
before
mental
illness
is
a
chemistry
flaw,
not
a
character
flaw,
and
so
what
we'd
be
doing
here
is
getting
on
this
registration
with
a
lot
of
people
with
mental
illness
and
part
of
the
problems
I
have
with
the
registration
is,
I
understand
there
was
some
talk
about.
K
People
would
just
hop
online,
but
a
lot
of
people
with
mental
illness,
often
wind
up
homeless,
so
to
be
able
to
hop
online
put
their
own
information
in
their
own
picture.
Up
on
a
website,
I
think,
would
probably
not
occur,
and
then
that
would
subject
them
to
a
never-ending
position
of
being
a
misdemeanor
and
coming
back
through
court
recycling
them
over
and
over
and
over.
K
However,
most
of
those
people
don't
even
wind
up
doing
that,
so
I
don't
think
there
will
be
even
better
compliance
with
this
as
well.
So
those
are
some
of
our
concerns
continued
criminalization
of
mentally
ill
people
failing
to
properly
register
on
this
website,
but
we
do
thank
assembly
woman
hardy
for
some
of
the
changes
she's
already
made.
Thank
you.
K
K
Chair
there
are
no
more
callers
in
the
queue
for
opposition
testimony.
Thank
you,
bps
I'll,
close
opposition
testimony.
I
will
now
open
neutral
testimony
again.
I
don't
believe
we
have
anyone
on
the
zoom
in
neutral.
If
I'm
incorrect,
please
just
unmute
and
let
me
know
seeing
nobody
unmuting
bps.
Can
we
go
back
to
the
phone
lines
to
see
if
there's
any
neutral
testimony
please.
K
K
F
A
summer
woman
hearty
sorry
that
we
weren't
able
to
touch
base
before
the
hearing
today.
What
we
have
is
one
one
piece
of
maybe
clarification
that
we
were
hoping
could
be
addressed
and
something
that
o'neill
touched
on
this
in
his
questioning,
but
in
in
section
two
of
the
bill.
It
requires
that
anybody
on
the
registry
update
their
residential
address.
F
However,
in
section
four
of
the
bill,
where
it
talks
about
the
information
that
the
registrar,
the
registered
individual
excuse
me
would
need
to
provide
to
for
the
registration,
it
does
not
include
providing
their
address,
and
so
we
just
feel
like
maybe
there's
a
you
know
a
bit
of
a
disconnect
there
that
either
we
need
to
add
the
residential
address
when
they
are
first
put
on
the
registry
or
remove
that
they
would
have
to
update
their
residential
address
over
the
course
of
that
10
years,
while
they're
on
the
registry.
F
Otherwise
we
just
think
that
might
be
a
little
bit
difficult
to
manage.
So
that's
that's
our
only
question
or
clarification
that
we
were
seeking
on
the
bill,
appreciate
the
bill,
sponsors
and
finding
hopefully
a
way
forward
on
this.
I
know
this
is
a
topic.
That's
been
discussed
for
a
multitude
of
sessions
and
appreciating
the
increase.
N
F
Animal
cruelty
cases
statewide
specifically
in
washoe
county,
and
thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank
you
for
your
testimony.
Ms
rodriguez
bps.
Are
there
additional
callers
in
the
neutral
position
we
are
currently
taking
neutral
testimony
on
av-350,
please
press
star,
9,
now
to
take
your
place
in
the
queue.
F
Chair
there
are
no
more
callers
in
the
queue
for
neutral
testimony.
Thank
you,
bps.
I
will
close
neutral
testimony.
I
will
now
hand
it
back
over
to
our
bill
sponsors
to
provide
any
concluding
remarks.
Assemblywomen
hardy,
shall
we
start
with
you
sure.
Thank
you,
chair
yeager.
This
is
melissa
hardy
assembly
district
22..
K
All
of
the
good
and
thoughtful
questions
also
thank
those
that
presented
with
me
for
all
of
their
information
in
this
area.
I
just
wanted
to
touch
on
one
thing
that
was
brought
up
a
few
times
about
the
the
employment
in
the
amendment
from
the.
B
Humane
society,
it
does
say
engaging
in
employment,
whether
paid
or
unpaid,
so
that
would
cover
the
issues
that
were
brought
up
in
some
of
the
the
comments.
E
You
know
this.
This
is
something
I
wanted
to
take
on
this
legislation,
because
I'll
admit
it.
I'm
soft-hearted
and
I
have
a
very
I'm
very
sensitive
to
those
that
abuse.
K
E
We've
spent
us
as
sponsors.
E
E
Thank
you,
terry
yeager.
You
know
me.
I
don't
like
to
belabor
the
point
I'd
just
like
to
acknowledge
my
corgi
jeter
and
and
thank
him
for
all
the
companionship
that
he's
given
me.
K
Thank
you,
assemblyman
levitt,
mr
roy,
any
concluding
remarks.
Yes,
so
the
reason
why
we
bring
this
bill
is
we
want
to
protect
animals.
The
reason
why
we
need
to
protect
animals
is
because
animals
cannot
protect
themselves.
J
Those
criminal
statutes
related
to
those
types
of
crimes
is
because
disabled
people,
elderly
people,
people
who
cannot
defend
themselves,
people
who
cannot
speak
up
for
themselves.
They
have
less
ability
to
protect
themselves
and
that's
why
we
need
to
have
statutes
that
protect
animals.
Animals
essentially
have
no
voice.
J
K
Now
you
know
the
ace
the
aclu
has
has
has
spoke
up
here
and
they've
stated
that
they
find
registries
to
be
ineffective.
I
guess
that's
their
argument
for
for
why
we
don't
want
to
have
a
register
they're,
not
effective,
as
maybe
they
could
be.
You
know
I
don't
know.
If
that's
a
compelling
argument,
if
you're
saying
something
is
effective,
then
it's
effective,
maybe
it's
not
as
effective
as
other
things,
but
it's
a
step
in
the
right
direction
and
at
this
point
in
time,
there's
not
other
legislation
in
place.
That's
protecting
these
animals.
K
K
J
We
have
the
same
type
of
registry
for
sex
offenders
for
pedophiles,
etc.
So
you
know,
there's
no
reason
to
believe
it
will
work
in
that
type
of
circumstance,
but
not
for
animals
that
are
being
abused.
It's
the
exact
same
mechanism,
that's
being
used
to
provide
the
same
types
of
protections
for
for
individuals
now.
Mr
john
pirro
spoke
mr
roy.
J
If
you
could
please
wrap
up
your
remarks,
please
we
do
have
another
bill
to
get
to
yet
you
got
it
last
last
thing:
john
pearl
spoke
up
about
the
issue
with
hoarding
people
with
hoarders
have
mental
disorders.
That's
that
I
believe
that
I'm
sure
that
is
true.
It's
not
an
issue
because
hoarding
is
a
misdemeanor
offense.
Typically,
this
you
will
not
be
misdemeanor.
J
Offenses
are
not
required
to
submit
to
the
registry
only
felonies,
so
people
with
mental
issues
who
are
hoarders
will
not
be
required
to
report
to
the
registry,
so
they're
not
going
to
be
detrimentally
impacted
by
this
bill
from
the
registry
and
and
we'll
leave
it
with
that.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
roy
and
miss
lasseter,
we'll
give
you
the
last
word.
B
Leanne
loster
for
the
record
I'll,
just
very
briefly
address
the
comments
from
the
aclu
about
leaving
someone
homeless
and
number
one,
it's
impossible
to
legislate
for
every
species
of
animal
that
could
possibly
live
in
a
home.
You
know
such
as
a
fish
or
a
bird.
B
We
strongly
believe
that
he
used
the
example
of
fighting
fighting
is
a
violent
blood
sport
and
just
as
you
would
not
like,
let's
say
a
a
convicted
child
abuser
abused
the
three-year-old
in
the
house,
but
not
the
10
year
old
in
the
house,
you're
not
going
to
leave
one
kid
there
for
that
person.
When
it
comes
to
animals,
those
pets
are
typically
easily
re-homed.
B
I
Person
to
live
in
their
home
with
them,
then
they
can
re-home
all
of
the
other
animals
that
reside
in
the
same
house
or
dwell
so
that
that
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much
ms
lasseter,
and
I
appreciate
the
four
of
you
being
here
this
morning
to
present
assembly
bill
350..
Thank
you
for
spending
some
of
your
friday
morning
with
us,
and
we
hope
you
have
a
great
rest
of
the
day.
G
On
assembly,
bill
350,
and
that
takes
us
to
our
first
bill-
that's
listed
on
the
agenda
that
is
assembly
bill
326.
I
will
now
open
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
326.
It
revises
provisions
governing
cannabis
and
we
have
former
assembly
judiciary
committee,
former
assembly,
commission
assembly,
judiciary
committee
assembly
person,
mr
tom
roberts
with
us
today,
so
welcome
back
to
the
assembly,
judiciary,
committee,
assemblyman
roberts
and
please
proceed
when
you're
ready.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Again,
for
the
record,
my
name
is
assemblyman
tom
roberts
from
assembly
district
13
in
southern
nevada,.
I
Judase
he
is
part
of
the
industry
and
will
be
working
with
me
on
this
piece
of
legislation.
I
L
Basically,
you
know:
36
states
have
legalized
marijuana
and
15
of
those
states
have
regulated
adult
use
programs.
Despite
this,
the
illegal
market
for
marijuana
is
still
thriving.
The
reason
is
simple
economics.
L
B
I
B
With
the
the
lack
of
prosecution
in
the
illegal
market,
so
I
met
with
several
of
them.
I
talked
to
the
district
attorney's
office
and
prosecutors
that
were
involved
in
it
and
law
enforcement.
Basically,
they
said
hey
look.
There
is
prosecution
going
on
out
there
there's
still
criminal
statutes
on
the
book.
However,.
I
It
lacks
jury
appeal,
they've
taken
some
trials
or
some
of
these
trials
or
cases
to
jury,
they're,
they're,
hesitant
to
convict
based
on
the
legalized
side
of
the
market.
One
of
the
prosecutors
that
I
talked
to
suggested
that
I
contact
the
nevada
contractors
board.
B
I
B
App
and
you
find
tons
of
unlicensed
sellers-
or
you
know,
weed
maps
and
websites
like
that
that
are
advertising
routinely
for
illicit
marijuana
sales.
So
I
thought
it.
K
That
was
enacted
a
couple
of
sessions
ago
that
allow
them
to
also
give
civil
citations
to
folks
in
the
contractors
industry
that
it
either
conducts
contracting
without
a
license
or
advertises
without
a
license.
K
So
I
gave
that
language
to
lcb
and
what
you
see
today
before
you
came
out
of
that,
I
will
tell
you
that
the
intent
of
this
bill
is
not
to
add
regulation
to
licensed
dealers.
It's
definitely
not
even
part
of
what
I
the
intent
of
what
I
wanted
to
do.
I
really
wanted
to
give
tools
to
law
enforcement
and
or
code
enforcement
officials,
an
extra
tool
other
than
criminal
prosecution.
K
K
Also,
it's
been
the
cannabis
compliance
board
in
the
way
the
bill
is
drafted.
They
don't
have
the
authority
or
the
mechanism
to
do.
B
That
and
and
and
mr
judiciary
will
touch
more
on
that.
F
As
he
presents
the
bill,
and
also
we
probably
need
to
do
some
cleanup
language
in
the
advertising
portion
of
requiring
the
license
number
and
advertising.
We
believe
that
that
would
be
best
left
up
to
the
compliance
board
to
put
those
regulations
into
place
so
that
we
could
go
after
people
that
that
that
aren't
licensed.
So
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over.
To
mr.
B
B
Thank
you,
mr
chair
and
members
of
the
judiciary
committee
for
allowing
me
the
opportunity
to
speak
on
av-326
8326
is
a
bill.
Assemblyman
roberts
has
introduced
that
reiterates
laws
already
on
the
books
regarding
the
sales
of
cannabis.
Without
a
license
specifically
section.
One
of
this
bill
wants
to
provide
the
ccb
with
more
teeth
for
going
after
those
selling
candidates
without
a
license
after
comments
from
government
agencies,
as
touched
out
by
assemblyman
roberts
earlier,
we
have
understood
that
the
ccb
may
not
have.
I
M
Also
section
two
of
the
bill
deals
with
advertising
specifically
asking
that
advertisements
contain
the
name
of
the
cannabis
establishment
and
their
license
number
or
other
unique
identification
added
to
the
assigned
to
the
cannabis
establishment
by
the
ccb.
M
What
that
section
will
do,
basically
is,
as
assemblyman
roberts
touched
on,
there
are
a
number
of
people
out
there
that
are
advertising
cannabis
illegally.
One
of
the
things
too
going
on
is
there's
a
number
of
brands
out
there
operating
under
cannabis
establishments,
and
it
can
be
difficult
to
ascertain
exactly
who
is
creating
the
product.
So
I
think
section
two
does
do
a
good
job
of
putting
that
unique
identification
number
on
there,
so
that
those
individuals
can
specifically
be
identified.
Those
cannabis
establishments
that
are
putting
out
that
those
those
advertisements.
M
That's
basically
the
mechanics
of
the
two
amendments
that
are
made
to
this
bill,
so,
with
the
permission
of
the
chair,
I'll
turn
it
back
over
to
assemblyman
roberts
thanks
daniel
and
mr
chair,
I
can
open
up
for
questions
and
I
will
tell
you
that
this
bill
needs
a
little
bit
of
work.
The
intent
is
to
add
some
civil
statutes
to
accompany
the
criminal
statutes
in
the
proper
court
of
jurisdiction.
M
M
M
Excuse
me
through
you,
mr
chair
to
assemblywoman,
when
us
assemblyman
roberts
for
the
record,
the
intent
was
to
allow
enabling
language,
either
at
the
local
court
of
jurisdiction
or
at
the
cannabis
board.
The
way
it's
written
today
in
talking
with
the
executive
director
of
the
ccb.
They
don't
have
them.
They
don't
have
the
they
don't.
Have
the.
I
E
You
know
walk
fine
line
between
this
decriminalization
kind
of
statewide
and
nationally
about
arresting
people
for
selling
marijuana,
but
also
wanting
to
protect,
protect
on
this
growing
industry
and
get
that
revenue.
I
know
that
in
san
francisco,
the
city
attorney
there
started
enacting
civil
injunctions
against
people
because
they
weren't
wanting
to
arrest
them,
and
they
have
looked
at
kind
of
crafting
this
creative
like
way
to
do
that.
E
Is
that
something
that
you
considered
putting
in
this
bill
as
well,
giving
the
opportunity
to
kind
of
sue
drug
dealers
civilly
that
are
like
street
dealers
yeah?
I
think
that
through
you,
mr
chair
assembly,
woman
nguyen
assemblyman
roberts
for
the
record.
B
I
While
I
was
there,
we
hired
a
civil
attorney
just
to
do
that
for
problem
businesses,
problem
apartment
complexes
and
things
like
that.
So
I'm
sure
it's
a
tool.
B
That
would
be
used
with
law
enforcement,
but
not
not
only
that,
but
municipalities
around
the
state
that
they
could
go
after
these
folks
that
are
profiting
from
illegal
drug
sales.
B
B
Thank
you,
chair,
yeager
and
assemblyman
roberts
for
bringing
this
bill
forward
just
curious.
It
seems
like
the
person
who
was
recently
who
you're
mentioning
about
this
large
drug
bust
had
a
substantial
operation.
B
Is
there,
have
there
been
any
moves
to
expand
the
pathways
for
licensure
for
people
so
that
we
have
fewer
opportunity
of
fewer
instances
of
large
grow
houses
that
are
illegal?
Is
there
any
move
in
that
direction,
and
I
have
a
follow-up.
Thank
you
for
the
question
again
for
the
record.
Through
you,
mr
chair,
to
assemblywoman
armstrong
yeah,
I
mean
I
believe
there
has
been
a
move
to
increase
the
amount
of
licenses
issued
in
the
state.
I
know
that
was
a
challenge
in
the
past
I
mean.
B
Obviously
we
heard
a
bill
yesterday
about
that.
I
believe
you're
on
a
committee
with
me
in
revenue
that
it
talked
about
licensing
promoters
and
vendors
at
events,
so
I
believe,
there's
a
number
of
different
ideas.
H
Thank
you,
assemblyman
robert
you've
got
me
mixed
up
with
somebody
else.
I'm
not!
Oh
I'm
sorry.
I
thought
you
were
wrong
yeah.
H
Well,
I'm
just
concerned
that,
if
that
that
we
we
are
regressing
back
to
some
of
the
other
things
that
were
happening
previously
with
going
after
people
for
sale
of
marijuana,
and
I
would
just
you
know
this
is
not
my
area,
I'm
not
I'm
not
the
pro
in
this,
but
I'm
I'm
just
concerned
that
we've
had
significant
discussions
and
I've
heard
many
complaints
about
the
inability
of
people
from
diverse
backgrounds
to
get
involved
in
this
industry
and
then,
when
they
become
entrepreneurial,
then
we
want
to
go
after
them.
H
For
people
to
for
more
diverse
participation
in
in
this
industry,
then
we
need
to
be
a
little
bit
concerned
about
aggressive
nature
of
of
trying
to
go
after
people.
Thank
you.
H
H
Right,
I
don't
believe
I'm
seeing
any
at
this
time,
so
assemblyman
roberts,
mr
giudicy,
thank
you
for
presenting.
Ask
you
to
sit
tight
for
just
a
moment.
While
we
take
some
testimony
on
the
bill
and
then
we'll
come
back
to
you
for
concluding
remarks
at
this
time,
I'll
open
up
for
testimony
in
support
of
assembly
bill
326.
H
H
H
H
Hi
good
after
good
morning,
this
is
blake
martin
l-a-y-k-e-m-a-r-t-I-n,
terry
yeager,
members
of
the
jewish
year
committee,
again
lake
martin,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
the
nevada,
dispensary
association,
and
we
want
to
thank
assemblyman
roberts
for
seeking
to
provide
additional
tools
to
combat
the
illicit
market,
particularly
organized
crime,
and
we're
grateful
that
the
assemblyman
has
been
flexible
and
working
with
the
industry
to
ensure
that
requiring
the
type
of
identification
on
advertising
would
not
be
overly
burning
them
and
we
look
forward
to
continuing
this
conversation.
Thank
you.
H
H
Yeah
this
is
daryl
lacy,
representing
planet
13,
and
we
support
this
bill,
especially
the
intent
and
understand
that
it's
very
difficult
to
generate
a
comprehensive
change
to
the
prosecution
for
marijuana,
but
the
industry
strongly
supports
the
need
to
put
something
in
place
to
deal
with
the
bad
actors
that
have
tried
to
infiltrate
this
market
and
we're
more
than
happy
to
work
with
the
nba
and
the
sponsors
on
the
field.
Thank
you.
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
you
know
I
appreciate
the
committee's
time
today
and
and
I
apologize
for
assemblywoman
summers,
armstrong
we're
on
growth
and
infrastructure
together
and
yesterday
it
kind
of
ran
together
with
the
with
all
of
the
the
hearings
yesterday.
So
I
thought
she
was
on
my
on
my
same
committee
there.
I
forgot
we're
on
that
one
together,
so
I
apologize
but
yeah.
H
I
I'm
willing
to
work
with
the
industry
to
make
the
needed
adjustments
and-
and
I
will
tell
you
that
you
know
the
intent
to
go
after
civilly-
is-
is
pretty
much
just
a
regulatory
issue.
It's
no
different
than
doing
business
without
a
license
or
anything
else.
I
I
agree
that
we
need
to
open
up
other
opportunities
as
well,
so
that
you
have
a
dual
track
system
to
reduce
the
amount
of
black
market
activity,
but
currently,
law
enforcement
lacks
all
the
tools,
simply
criminal
prosecution.
H
As
we
know,
you
can't
arrest
your
way
out
of
issues
in
some
civil
fines,
I
believe
would
definitely
go
after
the
advertisers
that
are
falsely
luring
tourists
and
some
of
our
community
folks
into
purchasing
on
the
illegal
market,
and
I
would
urge
support
I'll,
bring
an
amendment
back
as
quick
as
I
can
and
I'll
urge
support
passage.
H
Thank
you,
assemblyman
roberts,
mr
giudice.
Any
concluding
remarks,
yes,
daniel
judisee
for
the
record.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
members
of
the
committee.
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate
assemblyman
robert's
comments.
You
know
just
there
is
a
large
cost
of
compliance
for
these
licensees
and
they
just
they
want
to
know
that
their
interests
are
being
protected.
So
that's
all
I
wanted
to
say
on
that
issue,
and
I
appreciate
everybody's
time.
Thank
you.
H
Thank
you.
Assemblyman
roberts,
mr
judisee,
thanks
for
spending
a
little
bit
of
time
with
us
here
on
this
friday
morning,
and
just
please
keep
us
updated
on
where
things
are
with
respect
to
the
amendment,
and
we
hope
you
both
have
a
great
rest
of
your
friday
and
a
great
weekend
so
I'll
now
close.
The
hearing
on
assembly
bill
326,
a
committee
that
takes
us
to
our
next
item
on
the
agenda,
which
is
public
comment.
By
way
of
reminder,
we
reserve
up
to
30
minutes
at
the
end
of
each
meeting
for
public
comment.
H
Public
commenters
will
have
two
minutes
to
provide
public
comment.
Public
comment
is
a
time
to
bring
up
matters
of
a
general
nature
within
the
jurisdiction
of
the
assembly
judiciary,
committee
bps.
Could
we
go
to
the
phone
lines
one
last
time
to
see
if
there's
anybody
there
for
public
comment
this
morning,.
H
To
testify
under
public
comment,
please
press
star
9
now
to
take
your
place
in
the
queue
again
to
testify
under
public
comment.
Please
press
star
9
now
to
take
your
place
in
the
queue
color
with
the
last
three
digits:
five:
five:
six.
We
slowly
state
and
spell
your
name
for
the
record.
You
have
two
minutes
ian
marie
grant.
H
A-N-N-E-M-A-R-I-E-G-R-A,
my
brother
was
38
years
old,
thomas
purdy,
when
he
suffered
a
mental
health
crisis
at
the
peppermill
casino
asked
security
for
help.
They
called
me
no
police
who
provided
help
by
hog
tying
my
mentally
ill
brother,
non-combative
non-assaultive
brought
into
the
washout
county
jail
when
he
was
asphyxiated
to
death.
I've
just
heard
the
washer
county
jail
testify
at
different
committees,
this
session
recently
just
on
ab268
that
was
being
heard
at
assembly
gov
and
they
think
they're
doing
a
great
job
of
not
killing
mentally
ill
people.
H
I,
I
would
think
otherwise,
as
someone
who's
personally
had
a
loved
one
asphyxiated
to
death
by
them
and
there's
two
other
people.
Watered-Down
bills
are
not
designed
to
prosecute
the
police,
but
rather
to
restore
public
confidence
in
the
police.
They
are
used
to
defuse
demands
for
prosecuting
police
brutality
and
minimize
punishment
for
guilty
cops.
What
families
really
want
is
true
change,
so
no
other
families
have
to
know
this
pain
and
for
our
loved
ones,
killers
to
be
held
accountable
as
anyone
not
wearing
a
badge
would
be.
H
So
please,
please,
stop
me
at
my
two
minutes:
9
23
94,
ronald
wayne,
bunch
10,
29,
88
ben
hull,
1999,
j
street
117,
2000
daniel
milan
lopez,
6401,
jario
rodriguez,
12,
2001,
jeffrey
violet,
12,
2401,
michael
welborn,
42402,
scott
joshua,
scott
lyman,
11,
2202,
stephen,
a
jarez,
12803
ian
pace
done
woody
john
mccoy
6904,
jacob
lair,
72204,
william
barton,
lewis,
3
1605,
kyle,
melendez
and
mrs
miss
grant.
You
are
at
your.
You
are
at
your
two
minutes.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
have
a
good
weekend.
H
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
public
comment,
ms
grant
bps.
Are
there
additional
callers
for
public
comment
this
morning,
the
caller,
with
the
last
three
digits
zero?
Three.
Seven
please
slowly
state
and
spell
your
name
for
the
record.
You
have
two
minutes
and
made
again
tanya
brown
t-o-n-j-a-b-r-o-w-n
advocates
for
the
inmates
and
the
innocent.
I
just
want
to
clarify
something
that
jerry
jager
said
when
I
was
finished.
Speaking
on
the
one
bill,
I
will
say
that
when
I
had
my
conversation
with
this
individual,
I
did
inform
him.
H
I
was
going
to
call
the
sheriff's
department.
He
then
approached
me
with
his
dog
the
person
in
my
car
yelled
at
me
to
get
in
the
car.
Let's
get
out
of
here,
which
I
did.
I
then
went
home.
I
called
kenny
at
home.
Sorry
sheriff
furlong
at
home,
informed
him
and
I
did
call
the
sheriff's
office.
So
I
did
take
the
appropriate
steps
to
see
that
something
was
done.
Thank
you
and
and
have
a
great
day.
H
H
Thank
you.
Bps
appreciate
your
help.
I
will
close
public
comment
committee
members.
Let
me
just
make
sure
we
didn't
get
any
additional
bdrs.
While
we've
been
in
judiciary
committee,
I
don't
see
any
additional
bdrs,
so
we
don't
have
anything
to
do
there.
Anything
else
from
committee
members
for
we
talk
about
next
week.
H
So
before
before
I
kind
of
make
concluding
remarks,
I
did
just
want
to
point
out
that
I'm
wearing
this
donut
pin
that
my
mother
sent
me
so
she
watches
judiciary
committee
meeting
almost
every
morning,
so
just
want
to
say
thanks
for
the
donut
pin
mom.
As
many
of
you
know,
we
try
to
bring
donuts
on
friday
for
members
of
the
committee.
So
if
you
haven't
gotten
one
yet
please
swing
by
and
we'll
have
one
for.
You
committee
want
to
thank
you
for
your
hard
work.
This
week
it's
been
a
long
week.
H
H
I
suspect
we're
probably
going
to
have
judiciary
committee
meetings
every
day
between
now
and
our
april,
9th
deadline
and
they're
probably
going
to
be
at
8
o'clock
and
they're,
probably
going
to
be
several
bills
on
and
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
process
the
bills
we
need
to
process
in
the
morning
and
don't
have
to
come
back
for
an
evening
meeting
at
some
point,
but
that
could
be
in
the
works
as
well,
depending
on
how
things
go
so
buckle
up,
it's
going
to
be
a
long
two
weeks
so
with
that
committee.