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A
D
E
A
Here
we
do
have
a
quorum
and,
madam
secretary,
could
you
mark
any
members
who
are
not
yet
present
present
when
they
arrive?
I
know
some
folks
are
still
running
late
this
morning
again,
I
want
to
wish
everyone
on
this
zoo
meeting
good
morning.
There
are
a
lot
of
us
on
this
call
today
and
I
want
to
welcome
and
which,
good
morning
to
those
watching
over
the
internet,
either
on
the
legislature's
website
or
our
youtube
channel.
A
Welcome
to
day
three
of
the
81st
session
of
the
nevada
legislature,
just
a
couple
of
housekeeping
matters
that
I'll
go
over
to
remind
folks
for
those
of
you
on
the
zoom.
If
you're,
not
speaking,
please
mute
your
microphone,
so
we
can
make
sure
we
eliminate
any
feedback
and
then
really
the
only
other
two
I
wanted
to
mention
is.
A
We
certainly
expect
courtesy
and
respect
in
the
way
we
treat
one
another
and
our
presenters
in
the
meeting
today,
and
I
wanted
to
remind
folks
on
the
zoom
and
in
the
public
that,
because
of
this
virtual
meeting,
many
of
the
members
are
operating
with
multiple
screens
in
their
offices
to
try
to
be
on
zoom
and
to
view
view
exhibits.
So
if
we
have
to
look
away
from
the
screen,
don't
take
that
as
a
sign
of
an
attention
we're
most
likely
trying
to
look
at
an
exhibit
on
another
device.
A
I
think
some
of
us
in
the
committee
feel
like
we
are
in
gaming
tournaments
with
the
number
of
monitors
and
devices
that
we
have
to
make
this
successful.
So
please
don't
take
offense
to
that
we're
just
trying
to
to
keep
up
with
everything.
So
you
know
with
that
being
said:
I'm
going
to
go
into
our
agenda
members.
As
you
can
see.
We
have
three
presentations
today,
so
we're
gonna
run
much
like
we
did
yesterday,
where
we'll
allow
our
presenters
time
to
get
through
their
information
and
then
we'll
have
time
for
questions
at
the
end.
A
So
at
this
time
I'm
going
to
open
up
the
presentation
on
the
overview
of
the
department
of
public
safety.
I
know
many
of
the
folks
that
are
on
the
zoom
today
are
with
the
department
of
public
safety
in
some
way
I
don't
think
they're
all
going
to
be
presenting,
but
they
are
here
if
we
have
specific
questions.
So
I
want
to
welcome
director
george
tagliati,
to
the
meeting
and
before
you
get
started
director.
I
just
wanted
to
say
over
the
interim,
it's
been
a
real
pleasure
to
work
with
you
and
your
team.
F
F
We
all
know
these
are
rather
challenging
times,
to
say
the
least,
looking
forward
over
the
next
year
or
two,
and
we
have
pretty
much
understood.
Our
job
is
to
do
just
do
more
with
less
and
so,
for
example,
with
our
investigative
division,
you'll
be
at
our
capitol
police,
you'll
be
hearing
about
the
more
requests
that
we've
had
for
services,
but
a
wider
range
of
services,
now
we're
more
involved
in
protests
and
threats
to
organizations
and
buildings,
and
even
to
some
of
our
elected
officials.
F
Also,
the
nationwide
focus
now
in
law
enforcement
is
on
not
only
criminal
justice
reform,
but
on
domestic
terrorism.
The
investigative
division
is
a
key
player
in
our
intelligence
gathering
and
are
also
our
homeland
security
efforts.
F
F
F
So
we're
also
going
to
talk
today
about
some
of
our
initiatives
and
we
realize
that
budgets
are
tight,
but
these
initiatives,
I
think,
are
such
that
they're
they're,
extremely
timely
and
the
two
that
I'll
mention
are
the
division
of
emergency
management.
That's
presently
with
the
department
of
public
safety
early
on
when
cobit
pandemic
first
hit,
we
had
a
number
of
conversations
within
dem
and
also
the
governor's
office
and
with
the
national
guard,
and
clearly
we
understood
that
this
was
a
different
type
of
attack.
F
A
Speak
up
a
little
louder,
yeah
director,
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
I
I
have
headphones
on,
so
I
can
hear
you
just
fine,
but
I
think
perhaps
some
of
the
members
who
are
just
using
their
laptop
audio.
So
I
would
ask
the
members
maybe
to
either
turn
up
your
volume
or
director.
If
you
could
speak
up
a
little
bit,
I
think
it
would
be
helpful.
F
F
They
have
airplanes,
they
have
helicopters,
they
have
doctors,
they
have
medics
and
they
have
equipment.
And
if
you
in
retrospect,
if
you
look
at
certain
natural
disasters
that
do
occur,
the
national
guard
is
right
there
and
they're
our
first
line
of
defense,
whether
it's
wildfires
or
earthquakes
or
whatever.
So
a
strong
consideration
was
made,
and
we
have
this
year
worked
hand
in
glove
with
the
national
guard
and
general
andrew
barry
and
his
team
and
they've
done
a
fantastic
job.
F
In
supporting
the
the
efforts
for
responding
to
the
the
coven
pandemic,
but
going
forward
we're
more
or
less,
I
hesitate
to
say,
use
an
arizona
model,
but
there
are
some
states
where
the
emergency
management
division
is
under
the
office
of
the
military
in
the
national
guard,
and
that
is
without
belaboring.
F
The
point
that's
part
of
our
proposal
there
also,
the
second
one
I
just
want
to
address-
is
a
state
laboratory
which,
right
now
in
2021,
there
are
two
states
that
don't
have
a
state
laboratory,
it's
nevada
and
hawaii.
F
So
you
may
think
that
timing
is
kind
of
odd
for
this,
but
we
would
like
to
have
a
state
laboratory
for
forensics,
as
do
other
states
and
the
reason
being
that
right
now
we
have
two
major
labs,
one
in
washoe
county,
one
in
clark
and
as
the
state
grows,
and
we
see
the
need
going
forward
for
having
again
a
separate
state
laboratory
and
why
the
timing
is
important
now
is
quite
seriously
is
to
just
get
people
talking
about
it.
F
We're
not
looking
to
build
this
building
this
week,
or
maybe
this
year
or
next
year,
but
I
think
it's
extremely
important
that
we
just
have
it
as
a
matter
of
discussion
so
that
we
can
prepare
for
the
coming
years
because
of
the
advent
of
cannabis
and
the
legalization
of
recreational
use
of
marijuana.
F
We've
had
discussions
not
only
with
the
governor's
office,
but
also
with
tyler
klimas
and
the
folks
on
the
cannabis
board,
as
far
as
what
are
their
procedures
right
now,
how
we're
gonna
handle
the
quality
control
and
the
inconsistencies
that
we
may
develop
and
whatever
the
product
is
etcetera,
etcetera,
etcetera.
F
So
that
is
a
strong
consideration
right
now
to
take
a
look
at
that,
and
I
think
it
could
be
a
win-win
for
the
state.
So
I
I
said
I'd
be
brief
and
I
want
to
again
thank
my
team.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
time
and
I
would
like
to
introduce
my
deputy
director,
sherry
bergerman,
sherry.
Can
you
hear
me?
You
go
online.
F
And
we
are
all
going
to
be
here
for
any
questions
that
you
may
have,
and
so
I
will
turn
it
over
to
sherry
to
proceed
with
the
presentation.
G
G
So
we
are
the
department
of
public
safety
and
if
you
move
on
to
the
organizational
charts
you'll
see
all
our
bright
shiny
faces
that
you
probably
will
hear
from
a
lot
during
the
the
session
as
well
as
between
sessions,
the
director's
office
definitely
handles
policy
for
the
department.
G
We
provide
for
fiscal
services,
legal
services
and
human
resources
services
to
all
of
our
divisions
and,
of
course,
we've
got
the
fiscal
oversight,
the
accounting
budgeting
and
payroll
public
records
requests
underscore
underscore
dignitary
protection,
and
all
of
that
is
pretty
much
the
same
as
it
has
been
over
the
years.
So
I
am
going
to
turn
this
over
to
curtis
palmer.
He
is
our
senior
fiscal
manager
and
I'm
going
to
dare
him
to
be
as
quick
as
I
was
last
year,
going
through
the
slides,
so
curtis
you're
ready.
H
Thank
you
sherry
good
morning,
chairman
yeager
in
committee.
For
the
record,
my
name
is
curtis
palmer,
the
aso4
for
the
department
of
public
safety
and
yes,
I
will
go
quickly
so
just
touching
briefly
on
on
some
of
our
different
divisions
within
the
department
so
beginning
with
training.
We
have
two
training
academies,
one
in
the
north,
one
in
the
south
four
training
academies
per
year
and
they
are
accountable
and
responsible
to
the
peace
officers,
standards
and
training
or
post.
H
Our
office
of
professional
responsibility
is
administrative
investigations
of
department
employees.
They
provide
training
and
misconduct
prevention,
capital
police,
serve
and
protect
our
capitol
buildings
and
grounds
and
respond
to
investigating
crimes
and
threats
against
state
employees.
Our
highway
patrol,
of
course,
enforces
traffic
laws,
traffic
investigators,
traffic
crashes,
arrests
and
so
forth.
They
also
handle
our
criminal
interdiction
program
and
to
handle
canine.
H
Our
investigations
division
handles
major
crimes,
drug
enforcement,
vehicle
theft,
introduction
school
safety
with
the
safe
voice
program
and
also
manage
our
threat
analysis
center
to
detect
and
prevent
and
mitigate
terrorism.
Our
state
fire
marshal
is
it
develops
and
enforces
fire
code
and
regulations,
reviews
building
plans
and
issues
licenses
and
regis
registrations
for
fire
protective
related
companies.
H
They
also
is
your
issue
permit
for
hazardous
material
storage
and
provide
some
fire
prevention.
Education.
Our
office
of
cyber
defense
coordination
is
responsible
for
risk-based
assessments
of
state
agency
information
systems.
They
create
quarterly
and
annual
reports
regarding
preparedness
of
the
state
and
regulate
some
state
agencies.
H
A
H
The
dispatch
and
warrants
unit
records
bureau
handles
our
central
record
repository
for
nevada,
criminal
history,
as
well
as
nevada,
offense
codes
or
knox,
we'll
be
hearing
about
that
throughout
session
and
sex
offender
registry
and
point
of
contact
for
firearms
sales,
and
they
are
also
in
the
middle
of
an
insidious
monetization
program
which
is
a
20
year
old
program
that
is
being
updated
and
is
an
extensive
project.
H
Multi-Biennial
multi-million
dollar
implementation
program
going
on
to
the
office
of
criminal
justice
assistance.
They
are
the
state
administrative
agency
and
working
with
the
department
of
justice
and
provide
sub-grant
awards
and
secure
a
lot
of
dollars
for
the
state
of
nevada,
emergency
management
and
homeland
security.
H
Of
course,
their
responsibility
is
to
reduce
the
impacts
of
emergency
help
with
emergency
preparedness
of
both
of
natural
and
human
caused,
and,
as
the
the
director
had
mentioned,
the
governor
recommends
transferring
those
their
their
operations
over
to
the
office
of
military
and
they
handle
currently
about
two
point:
excuse
me:
229
million
dollars
in
federal
funds,
and
with
that
that's
the
overview
of
the
department
of
public
safety.
Our
next
up
would
be
pearl
and
probation
will
go
into
a
little
bit
more
detail.
A
Yeah,
thank
you
so
much
for
the
presentation.
I
give
you
guys,
certainly
an
award
for
being
brief.
Those
were
a
lot
of
slides
and-
and
I
appreciate
the
the
details-
and
I
want
to
thank
you
too,
for
the
photos
that
you
put
on
the
organizational
chart.
I
think
that's
really
helpful
to
see
faces
next
to
the
name.
So
I
don't
know
who
came
up
with
that
idea,
but
very
well
done.
I
think
it's
useful
for
the
committee
before
I
open
up
for
questions.
A
I
did
want
to
note,
because
I
hadn't
had
a
chance
to
connect
with
them
yet
and
let
assemblyman
o'neill
know
that
we
are
going
to
hear
a
presentation
not
today
but
later
either
next
week
or
the
week
after
from
the
criminal
records
repository
assemblyman
o'neill
had
requested
some
more
in-depth
information.
So
I
wanted
to
let
you
know
assemblyman.
We
don't
have
that
ready
to
go
today,
but
we
are
going
to
hear
a
standalone
presentation.
A
E
Thank
you,
chair
director,
tagliate.
First,
I
want
to
welcome
you
back.
I'm
glad
that
you're
back
at
dps-
and
I
know
you'll,
be
back.
Your
plans
for
the
future
of
the
department
are
excellent.
But
if
I
may
I
got
a
question
you're
moving
dem
over
to
the
guard.
You
is
the
intact,
also
part
of
dem.
Will
they
go
to.
F
Excellent,
you
have
george
tagliati
for
the
record
excellent,
excellent
question
and
thank
you
for
the
kind
remarks
the
since
I
was
in
this
position
some
years
ago.
It's
kind
of
developed
within
the
dem
that
helped
the
homeless
land
security
piece
and
the
ddm,
particularly
because
of
the
finances
and
the
federal
funding,
are
really
intertwined.
F
So
when
we
took
a
look
at
this,
we
felt
that
the
best
part
of
it,
the
best
piece
or
the
best
way
to
cut
it
cut
it
into
pieces,
was
to
take
the
pure
emergency
management
side
of
the
house,
move
it
toward
the
national
guard,
but
yet
retain
the
homeland
security
by
opening
the
box.
So
the
homeland
security
advisor
is
still
appointed
by
the
governor
and
today
that
homeland
security
advisor
and
presumably
would
be
the
director
of
the
department
of
public
safety
with
that
antac.
As
you
refer
to
those
are
you
not
familiar
with
it?
F
It's
a
fusion
center.
It's
an
intelligence
base
that
also
remains
within
the
department
of
public
safety
within
the
investigative
position,
so
we're
more
or
less
taking
law
enforcement
piece
of
it,
keeping
that
inside
the
department
of
public
safety,
but
all
the
other
hazards
and
dangers
and
disasters
that
could
occur
within
the
state.
Moving
that
over
to
and
the
control
of
that
over
toward
the
national
guard
will
better
prepare
in
response.
F
In
the
meantime,
as
far
as
resiliency
committees
and
the
homeland
security
committee,
dem
will
still
be
involved
because
of
the
financial
connections
with
the
federal
government,
various
fundings
of
fema
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
it's
kind
of
a
hybrid
design,
but
simply
law
enforcement
stays
with
us,
homeland
security
matters
and
other
hazards
and
other
threats
to
the
state.
E
E
F
George
tagliati,
against
the
record,
the
what
we
have
now
is:
it's
still
actually
up
to
the
discussion,
but
our
plan
and
we've
had
meetings
with
washroom
county
and
also
with
clark
county
in
their
laboratories,
and
our
preliminary
discussions
are
the
such
that
we,
if
from
the
forensic
part
of
it,
we
would
in
two
pieces,
forensic
and
then
the
campus,
the
forensic
part
of
it
right
now
the
state
would
state
laboratory
would
take
those
forensics
that
come
safe
from
state
agencies.
F
I
would
call
et
cetera
or
any
county
that
wanted
to
submit
to
the
state
and
they
would
process
it
as
it
stands.
Right
now
either
goes
to
washoe
county
or
it
goes
to
clark
county
and
we
pay
fees
for
that.
So
this
would
sort
of
remove
those
when
we
would
remove
those
fees
and
payments
that
we're
making
to
the
county
and
those
fees
would
be
adjusted
or
somehow
made
through
the
state
laboratory,
so
that
piece
of
it
would
change.
F
We
also
discussed
there's
a
fair
amount
of
federal
grants
that
are
involved
with
with
laboratories.
We
certainly
wouldn't
want
to
short-chain
washroom,
county
lab
or
anderson
lab
or
clark
county
labs.
F
So
again,
we
want
this
to
be
a
cooperative
effort
because,
as
the
state
grows,
we
can
see
that
there's
going
to
be
more
and
more
work
for
all
of
these
laboratories.
Now
you
add
the
cannabis
piece
of
it
and
right
now,
I
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
to
the
cannabis
folks,
but
what
I've
learned
from
our
discussions
with
them
is
that,
right
now,
most
of
the
all
of
the
laboratory
work
is
outsourced
to
a
number
of
different
laboratories
throughout
the
state
which
again,
I
think,
a
centralization
in
one
state
laboratory.
F
That's
certified
will
guarantee
again
a
little
bit
more
control
over
quality
control
and
assurance
of
product,
not
always
quality
of
product,
but
the
potency
of
a
product,
etc,
etc.
So,
when
you're
dealing
with
the
regulatory
aspects
of
state
control,
if
you
will
over
the
cannabis
sale
distribution
to
have
a
state
laboratory
where
we
can
centralize
all
the
science
of
it
and
any
kind
of
research
that
may
be
the
office
of
traffic
safety
also
has
a
role
in
this.
F
If
you
will,
because
with
the
nitsa,
the
federal
people
who
are
involved
with
traffic
safety,
their
concern
also
is
impaired.
Driving
so
there's
a
whole
world
of
out
there
of
folks
that
are
studying
the
comorbidity
of
drugs
and
alcohol
and
mixture
of
both
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
my
understanding
is
too
often
when
we
engage
people
who
are
driving
under
the
influence.
F
The
quick
fix
may
be
the
fact
that
they
smell
alcohol
and
someone
is
charged
with
say
a
dui
for
having
alcohol
when
in
fact
they
could
not
only
have
alcohol,
but
they
could
also
have
all
kinds
of
drugs
in
their
system,
prescription,
drugs
or
whatever.
So
part
of
the
science.
Behind
that
that
that
I-
and
I
again,
I'm
not
an
expert
in
this
but
part
of
the
science
behind
that
that
office
of
traffic
safety
and
federal
people
and
medicines
struggle
with,
is
what
are
the
true
numbers
for
impaired
driving.
Impaired
drivers.
F
F
To
look
and
see
exactly
where
our
problems
may
be,
where
we
need
to
where
we
need
to
focus
more
of
our
efforts
so
and
looking
at
all
the
labs
around
the
state,
again,
I'm
kind
of
speaking
for
them,
but
in
our
discussions
with
them,
no
one
is
really
prepared
or
has
an
inclination
to
want
to
engage
taking
on
all
that
cannabis
work.
So
there
again,
it
gives
us
kind
of
goes
back
to
us
thinking
again
geez
we
would
would
it
be
great.
F
We
had
a
state
lab
which
again
we
were
a
long
time
coming
on
that
to
take
into
forensics,
as
the
state
grows
more
and
more
demand
for
samples
to
be
taken
and
analyzed
that
the
state
lab
can
pick
up
that
part
of
the
work
and
then
also
do
the
canvas
part
of
the
work
and
then,
as
years
go
by
it
would
just
grow.
F
You
can
see
the
revenue
there,
because,
right
now,
people
were
outsourcing
it
all
from
cannabis,
so
there
would
be
revenue
to
the
state
laboratory
and
we
have
some
numbers
and
rough
numbers
on
what
we've
done
in
that
area
and
also
the
the
money.
As
far
as
payment
to
other
laboratories,
that
money
would
be
again
taken
into
the
state
laboratory,
so
would
it
pay
for
itself
eventually
over
the
years
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
we've
taken
a
look
at
that.
F
So
what
we'd
like
to
do
is
right
now,
with
this
session,
get
it
on
on
everybody's
view
and
get
it
out
there
and
start
to
chatter
and
get
everybody
taking
a
look
at
it
to
say,
hey.
I
think
this
is
viable.
I
think
this
is
something
we
should
have
in
the
next
few
years
and
move
forward
and
get
the
best
model
we
possibly
can.
A
Thank
you
director
and
assemblyman
o'neill
I'll
mention
it
as
well.
I
chaired
an
interim
committee
on
driving
under
the
influence
of
cannabis
and
I
think
we'll
see
some
legislation
based
on
that,
but
I
was
very
surprised
to
learn
that
our
labs
don't
test
consistently
exactly
what
the
director
said.
There
are
certain
labs
that
if
you
get
an
alcohol
positive,
they
don't
test
for
anything
else.
A
E
Well,
mma
chair:
I
appreciate
the
answer
and
the
director's
attitude
or
planning
for
it.
I
personally
we
have
said
for
years
that
we
should
have
a
state
laboratory
and
with,
as
you
were
saying,
the
cannabis
and
the
additional
demands
being
put
out
there.
Now
I
strongly
support
it.
I
just
wanted
to
get
some
clarification
on
a
few
parts
of
it
because
I
know
the
department
is
also
obligated
to
take
care
of
the
rural
county,
sheriff's
office,
etc.
E
A
You're
welcome,
let's
go
next.
I
think
assemblywoman
kasama
had
raised
her
hand,
so
we'll
go
next
to
her
for
a
question.
B
B
You
know
meeting
the
need
that
is
there
and
and
you're
talking
about
estate
lab
how
far
out
in
the
future,
do
you
think
the
county
labs
can
no
longer
meet
that
need?
Are
you
looking
at
a
three-year
window
of
five
years?
Just
for
you
know,
I
know
you
can't
be
held
to
this,
but
how
long
do
you
think
in
the
future,
if
this
would
be
a
must
to
have
to
meet
the
demand?
F
Tagliatic
for
the
record,
I
would
think
if,
if
we
take
a
look
this
session,
I
would
think
within
the
next
by
next
session.
We
should
be
looking
about
a
little
bit
of
recovery
from
copen.
F
We
have
other
funding
streams
and
I
think
because
of
our
involvement
with
the
federal
federal
government
with
officer
traffic
safety-
and
I
can
I
can
have
amy
elaborate
just
a
bit
on
it.
We
can
find
some
other
funding
to
help
support
the
effort,
but
I
would
think
within
the
next
next
couple
of
years,
I'd
like
to
see
it
moving
forward,
but
I
don't
recall
exactly
the
amount,
but
if
amy
or
sherry
could
tell
me
the
exact
amount
we
put
up
for
this
session.
F
As
far
as
for
a
preliminary
study,
did
you
share?
Are
you
online.
G
Yes,
I
am
on
the
line
the
I
believe
it's
around
600
000
for
the
preliminary
study
and
then
next
session
or
the
session
following
we'd
be
looking
at,
hopefully
starting
the
build
or
the
planning
with
regard
to
how
much
the
labs
can
handle
right
now,
there
already
is
issues
with
backlogs
so
that
people
are
picky
pick
and
choose
which
cases
to
push
through
the
labs
and
prioritize
them.
G
So
it's
just
a
function
of
of
our
internal
need
right
now,
in
terms
of
the
number
of
bloods
we
store
in
our
evidence,
faults,
we
have
quite
a
bit
everything
else.
We've
talked
about
isn't
available
to
us
now
with
the
lapse.
So
this
is
something
that
we
need
really
yesterday,
but
as
we
begin
to
move,
I
don't
think
the
labs
will
feel
the
pinch.
If
anything,
I
think
it
it
could
relieve
them
of
some
of
the
extra
workload
that
they
have
to
struggle
with.
B
Thank
you,
chair
director,
this
tech
reality.
This
is
simple:
bowman's,
chandra
summers,
armstrong
from
86.
and
I
have
a
question
about
the
redistribution
of
staff
in
the
department
of
emergency
management.
If
that
department,
or
some
of
those
tasks
move
under
the
national
guard,
how
will
that
affect
your
staffing?
Will
you
lose
staff?
Will
you
have
to
reassign
or
retrain?
F
Georgetown
for
the
record,
I
don't
anticipate
any
reduction
in
staff.
It
is
just
going
to
be.
I've
had
some
conversations
with
general
berry
and
we're
both
we're
both
on
the
same
page,
we'll
just
shift
over
responsibilities
within
this,
so
basically
shifting
an
org
chart,
we
keep
the
law
enforcement
side
and
they
handle
the
other
side.
We
deal
very
very
closely
with
them
anyway,
and
in
dealing
with
the
homeland
security
committee
commission
and
the
funding
with
fema
pretty
much
the
world
remains.
F
The
same
we've
been
acting
in
that
capacity
now,
for
I
would
say
since
last
march,
where
it's
kind
of
been
a
two-headed
monster
where,
where
dem
is
keeping
the
national
guard
and
reporting
to
the
general
and
then
also
reporting
to
us.
So
I
think
what
we
want
to
do
is
formalize
it
where
all
hazards,
with
the
exception
of
law
enforcement,
go.
H
F
National
guard
and
general
barry's
team-
I
don't
see
any
reduction
in
staff,
I
don't
see
any
changes
in
location
vehicles
really
anything
it's
more.
Just
an
administrative
move
in
the
chain
of
command.
B
Thank
you
so
much.
This
question
is,
for
I
can't
see
your
full
last
name
miss
sherry.
This
is
shauna
summers,
armstrong
again,
ad6
regarding
the
lab.
G
Yes,
this
is
sherry
brickman
for
the
record.
Yes,
you
can
hear
me,
I
we
definitely
have
already
used
federal
funding
to
do
a
study,
conduct
a
study
and
we
can
get
you
a
copy
of
that
study.
G
Amy
davey
has
been
our
spearhead
person
on
getting
us,
not
only
the
funding
to
conduct
the
study,
but
keeping
that
all
in
one
hat
basically,
so
that
you
can
review
the
recommendations
in
detail
if
you'd
like
with
regard
to
building
the
lab,
the
federal
funds
cannot
be
used
for
any
cip,
anything
that
is
going
to
belong
to
the
state
later
on.
G
Granting
group
are
very,
very
supportive
of
the
lab,
very
supportive
of
the
lab,
so
they
are
keeping
in
touch
with
us
and
I
think
we
would
get
a
lot
of
support
once
we
have
it
built
the
what
other
disc
was
underway
was
doing
a
temporary
lab
where
we
rent
the
space,
buy
the
equipment
staff
it
and
then
the
day
that
the
the
permanent
lab
is
ready,
move
them
in,
but
again
that's
a
financial
burden.
G
I
don't
believe
the
state
was
ready
at
this
time
to
commit
to,
but
that
is
also
something
we
can
do
and
down
the
line.
Unfortunately,
again,
when
we're
talking
about
building
the
feds
can't
assist
us
with
that.
A
And
I'll
note
on
the
chat
that
amy
davey
had
indicated
that
she
does
have
the
state
lab
assessment
report,
so
miss
davey.
I
think
he
said
that
to
me
previously,
but
if
you
wouldn't
mind
just
emailing
it
to
me,
I
will
make
sure
it
gets
out
to
members
of
the
committee.
It's
pretty
lengthy,
but
it's
it's
very
interesting,
read
and
I'll
also
remind
members
of
this
committee.
You
know
we're
not
the
money
committee
and
this.
A
This
idea
is
not
yet
in
front
of
us
in
bill
form,
but
if,
if
and
when
it
becomes
a
bill,
I
anticipate
you
know
there
would
be
a
policy
discussion
in
one
of
the
committees
about
whether
it's
a
good
idea
to
create
a
state
lab.
And
then
you
know
the
money
part
of
that
would
would
be
handled
by
the
ways
and
needs
and
senate
finance
committee
and
they'd
have
to
figure
that
all
out
so
right
now.
A
I
think
this
is
just
kind
of
a
preview
of
what
we
could
see
in
future
sessions
if
any
of
us
return
for
future
sessions.
So
just
kind
of
keep
that,
in
the
back
of
your
mind
and
I'll
make
sure
to
distribute
that
report.
When
I
get
it
to
the
committee
members,
let's
see
do
we
have
other
questions
before
we
move
on
to
prone
probation,
assemblyman
wheeler.
Please
go
ahead.
F
In
march,
when
the
shutdowns
first
hit
all
of
a
sudden,
we
were
getting
250
300
000
background
checks
a
week.
B
A
A
F
Yes
and
thank
you,
george
tagliate
again
for
the
record,
I
just
when
we
talk
about
the
lab,
we've
discussed
the
forensic
side
of
it
a
bit.
F
We
also
have
tyler
klimas
and
the
cannabis
folks
can
really
provide
a
lot
of
information
as
far
as
their
research,
their
budgets,
how
much
is
being
spent
right
now
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
what
they
would
see
their
future
to
be
with
a
state
laboratory
to
handle
their
needs
and
that's
a
whole
other
story
that
they're
experts
in
and
that
they're
very
supportive
of
this
laboratory.
So
I
think
that'll
that'll
be
a
great
value
to
the
committee
and
to
the
whole
legislation.
A
A
G
Good
morning,
this
is
sheri
brigham
and
deputy
director
for
the
department
of
public
safety.
I'd
just
like
to
introduce
tom
lawson,
our
new
chief
of
parole
and
probation
who's,
going
to
spend
some
time
with
you
going
over
the
changes
that
they
have
been
going
through,
and
I
will
stay
on
in
case.
Any
questions
come
up
for
fiscal
but
other
than
that
any
of
the
staff.
Please
feel
free
to
drop
out
probably
clear
up
some
of
the
slowdowns
too.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
and
welcome,
mr
lawson.
I
don't
know
that
we've
had
a
chance
to
to
work
together
intimately
yet,
but
obviously,
parole
and
probation
is
a
very
significant
part
of
the
criminal
justice
system,
and
I
know
we'll
be
reaching
out
to
you
and
hearing
from
you
as
we
go
through
the
session.
So
welcome
to
the
committee
and
please
proceed
with
your
presentation.
I
Thank
you
kim.
Would
you
bring
the
presentation
back
up
please,
while
she's
doing
that?
Thank
you,
chairman,
yeager
and
members
of
the
committee.
Thank
you
for
your
invitation
to
speak
to
you
today.
My
name
is
tom
lawson.
I
did
have
a
chance
to
to
work
with
you
during
last
session
and
present
a
few
bills.
Ab69
was
one
of
them
we
discussed
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
those
same
opportunities
during
this
session.
I
Let
me
introduce
my
my
staff,
my
key
members,
my
staff,
major
sherry
slivas,
our
deputy
chief
in
the
southern
command
in
las
vegas
she's,
not
on
the
presenter
call,
but
is
watching
via
the
legislative
link.
Today
with
me
in
carson
city
off
camera,
are
major
stephanie
o'rourke
she's
the
norm,
command
deputy
chief
and
available
to
assist
with
questions
as
well
as
our
administrative
services
officer,
sue
sieber.
I
Should
those
type
of
questions
come
up,
I'd
like
to
go
through
our
entire
presentation
and
then
answer
questions
at
the
end,
but
if
there's
any
pressing
question
you'd
like
me
to
stop
at
any
slide,
please
give
me
the
high
sign
and
I
will
pause
for
your
questions
next
slide.
Please
these
first
few
slides
are
just
general
overview
and
I'm
I
don't
want
to
spend
the
community's
time
reading
them
so
I'll
breeze
through
these
fairly
quickly
and
then
focus
on
the
the
initiatives.
I
Going
back
to
mission
and
vision
as
you're
aware,
the
division
is
accountable
for
community
supervision
of
parolees
probationers
lifetime
sex
offenders
and
inmates
who
are
conditionally
released
from
ndoc
facilities.
Additionally,
we
transfer
out
and
accept
individuals
on
supervision
from
other
states
via
the
federal
interstate
compact
agreement.
I
I
The
board
of
party
commissioners
will
pardon
the
investigations
and
our
supervision
elements
and
collection
of
restitution
and
payments
for
victims
of
crimes
etc.
I
So
a
legislative
initiatives
next
slide.
This
is
where
we'll
slow
down
the
pace
a
little
bit
and
get
a
little
more
and
more
into
the
meat
and
potatoes
of
our
initiatives
and
the
first
one.
This
is
our
really
reinventing
supervision
thought
in
terms
of
addressing
our
low
risk
supervision,
how
we're
supervising
the
low
risk
offenders-
and
this
is
a
really
a
drastic
change
to
our
methodology-
currently,
there's
a
supervision
ratio
of
one
officer
to
150
low-risk
supervision,
offenders
and
we're
looking
to
change
that
methodology
considerably.
I
So,
by
scaling
back
the
officer
involvement
with
these,
these
low-risk
offenders
and
in
terms
of
following
those
best
practices,
studies
we're
reducing
the
I
guess,
our
potential
to
induce
recidivism,
while
still
providing
those
essential
services
in
terms
of
supervision
as
well
as
counseling
and
providing
them
opportunities
for
support
in
the
community
etc.
So
the
secondary
reason
is.
I
This
also
addresses
a
retention
concern
we
have
is
that
you
know
we
have
a
hard
time
retaining
officers
and
by
looking
to
shift
some
of
those
responsibilities
that
can
be
shifted
away
from
the
sworn
staff
to
the
non-sworn
staff,
which
we
typically
have
a
little
better
retention
rate
too.
I
We
hope
to
create
consistency
with
the
supervision,
as
well
as
providing
some
of
those
essential
supervision.
Services
at
a
lower
pay
rate
provides
efficiency,
and
so
this
is
our
efficiency
decision
unit,
because
overall,
it
does
result
in
a
savings
to
the
state
with
the
changes
we're
looking
at
making
so
with
the
supervision
model.
I
I
In
this
structure,
the
officer
performs
every
supervision
function.
They
are
all
things
to
every
one
of
their
offenders
from
the
administrative
functions
of
travel
passes
to
monitoring
timelines
in
terms
of
good
time,
credit
calculations
to
collecting
fines
and
fees.
Things
like
that,
where,
on
the
right
side,
here's
our
graphic
of
our
amended
model
where
we
have
an
officer
who
is
ultimately
responsible
for
the
law
enforcement,
supervision
of
500
offenders.
I
And
then
the
key
point
of
this
is
that,
in
order
to
allow
the
officer
to
oversee
those
500
offenders
instead
of
150,
we
have
two
parole
probation
specialists.
Who
would
each
cover
about
250
of
those
offenders
and
the
specialists
would
perform
all
of
the
administrative
supervision
functions
that
don't
require
peace
officer
powers
that
would
free
up
the
officer
to
focus
just
on
the
the
violations
of
those
who
are
the
attention
to
those
who
are
non-compliant
with
that?
I
Their
terms
of
supervision
and
not
needing
to
focus
on
on
the
people
who
are
compliant
with
supervision,
so
an
offender
who
is
completely
compliant
with
their
with
all
the
terms
or
conditions
may
always
see
their
officer
a
few
times
during
their
term
of
supervision,
because,
if
they're,
if
they're,
following
all
the
rules,
there
isn't
the
necess
necessity
to
have
routine
interaction
with
the
officer
which
follows
the
best
practices
of
community
supervision
and
so,
and
the
second
caseload
change
to
this
is
that
our
sergeants
are
typically
allocated
based
on
the
premise
of
that.
I
Each
sergeant
supervises
six
officers
without
consideration
for
the
non-sworn
staff
that
may
or
may
not
be
in
their
hispanic
control,
depending
on
their
office
location.
In
this
one,
this
model
the
sergeants
assigned
to
this
low-risk
supervision.
Pod
would
their
case.
Excuse
me
their
supervision.
Hispanic
control
would
be
six
total
employees
consisting
of
the
four
specialists
and
the
two
officers.
I
These
are
positions
that
have
historically
been
vacant.
We
have
a
hard
time
keeping
or
hiring
and
retaining
officers,
and
so
we're
looking
at
using
the
existing
vacancy
rate
to
downgrade
officers
into
specialist
positions.
To
facilitate
this.
This
concept.
I
I
I
guess
lead
on
this,
how
they
were
running
their
program
looking
at
500
per
offender,
and
what
we
found
is,
as
this
program
has
progressed,
is
that
that
500
did
did
what
it
was
intended
to
do.
It
got
those
offenders
releasing
from
custody
into
a
housing
situation
where
one
wasn't
available
before,
but
at
that
price
point
we
realized
that
we
weren't
really
providing
a
great
housing
opportunity
to
them.
I
Typically
releasing
offenders.
You
know
not
the
always
the
clientele
that
that
many
vendors
would
like
to
have
in
their
in
their
properties,
and
so
we
started
to
explore
opportunities
to
look
at
placement
programs,
residence
programs
that
provide
some
combination
of
housing
and
wraparound
services
to
those
offenders.
I
Those
not
receiving
engine
funding
was
only
18
those
who
had
been
arrested
within
30
days
of
release
or
were
on
the
path
to
absconding,
because
due
to
the
change
in
the
absconding
definition,
you
can't
abscond
within
30
days
anymore,
but
they
would
we're
not
making
contact
and
on
the
path
to
becoming
an
absconder.
I
Those
receiving
indigent
funding
was
nine
percent
and
those
not
receiving
indigent
funding
in
that
control
group
were
45,
and
so
this
this
program
has
had
a
drastic
effect
on
providing
that
immediate
stability
to
those
inmates
releasing
from
prison
as
it
was
designed,
and
so
we're
very
thankful
for
the
governor
to
the
governor
for
including
this
in
his
recommended
budget
as
an
ongoing
program.
I
In
terms
of
staffing
and
vacancies,
we
continue
to
work
diligently
to
fill
all
of
our
vacancies.
Due
to
the
pandemic.
We
have
a
number
of
frozen
positions
which
has
caused
our
vacancy
rate
to
spike,
but
we're
working
as
best
we
can
to
to
fill
our
academies
with
our
officer
positions.
I
I
The
division
has
one
executive
bill,
draft
ab-17
has
been
pre-filed,
and
this
is
a
looking
to
make
a
changes
to
the
language
regarding
discharge
from
both
probation
and
parole
over
the
years.
The
the
statutes
have
changed
to,
I
guess,
return
civil
rights
to
the
offenders
upon
discharge
and
there's
been
a
number
of
statutes
over
the
past
two
or
three
sessions
that
have
really
eliminated
the
distinction
between
an
honorable
and
a
dishonorable
discharge
for
both
probationers
and
parolees.
I
There
are
a
number
of
offenders
who
are
compliant
with
their
terms
of
supervision
given
their
their
life
and
their
employment
opportunities
and
their
and
their
salary
as
best
they
can.
However,
they
don't
qualify
for
an
honorable
discharge
and
they
get
a
dishonorable
discharge.
Likewise,
there
are
offenders
who
are
relatively
non-compliant
and
and
commit
a
number
of
technical
violations
to
still
qualify
for
an
honorable
discharge,
and
so
we're
at
the
point
where
the
honorable
versus
dishonorable
is
really
just
an
adjective,
maybe
an
adverb,
depending
on
how
you're
using
it
in
this
sentence.
I
But
the
distinction
isn't
there
anymore
of
who
got
their
rights
back.
Is
this
a
representation
of
their
actual
behavior,
while
under
supervision,
and
so
we've
had
some
side
conversations
with
a
number
of
stakeholders?
Regarding
this
bill,
we've
reached
out
to
the
aclu
and
hollywellborn,
we've
talked
to
the
public
defenders
groups
of
kinder
birchie
and
john
pirro.
We've
talked
to
the
prosecutors
groups
about
this,
and
also
we've
talked
to
the
office
of
sentencing
policy.
I
The
office
of
sentencing
policy
upon
introduction,
we
plan
on
asking
for
consideration
of
a
friendly
amendment
to
the
language
that
was
drafted
and
sentencing
policy
office
has
asked
for
some
conforming
changes
to
the
reporting
elements
tied
into
8236
of
last
year,
just
to
mirror
the
language
that
we're
looking
to
change
in
in
terms
of
this
bill.
So
moving
forward
should
this
bill
be
approved,
all
discharges
would
be
a
general
discharge.
I
It
removes
that
distinction
of
honorable
versus
dishonorable
and
and
because
there
is
no
difference
in
restoration
of
rights
anymore,
and
one
thing
we've
noticed
and
was
a
concern
in
drafting
this
is
that
there
are
a
few
offenders
who
are
really
in
a
discharge
limbo
where
we've
submitted
a
discharge
request
and
for
whatever
reason
it
just
hasn't
been
processed
by
the
courts
and
in
those
cases
the
the
offender
is
technically
not
under
supervision,
because
they've
expired
their
term
of
supervision
and
can't
be
supervised
legally
by
us.
I
This
bill
would
also
simplify
those
cases
where
they
they're
just
discharged
from
supervision,
and
I
look
forward
to
having
additional
conversations
should
this
be
called
for
an
introduction.
I
B
B
J
And
maybe
even
having
a
good
job,
those
percentages
that
are
don't
fall
within
the
success
stories.
They
are
out
of
our
community
they're
out
there
committing
new
crimes
and
doing
things
they
shouldn't
be,
and
so
it's
really
rewarding
to
be
on
the
side
of
figuring
out
what
they're
doing
stopping
them
from
doing
it
and
if
they
do
it,
hold
them
accountable.
B
B
C
I
This
video,
we
tell
us
why
we
serve
and
it's
our
our
employees
view
of
their
job
in
their
own
words.
We
ask
for
some
volunteers
and-
and
we
thank
our
the
people
who
were
willing
to
speak
on
camera
to
you
today
with
that,
I
will
open
up
to
any
questions,
and
I
guess
in
housekeeping
mr
chairman,
would
I
be
able
to
speak
directly
to
the
members
or
should
I
address
my
responses
to
you.
A
Thank
you,
director,
lawson
feel
free
just
to
go
directly
to
the
members
unless
you
like
to
do
it.
Otherwise,
I
know
some
people
like
the
formality
of
that,
but
it's
it's
not
necessary
in
the
committee
and
yeah.
Certainly,
we've
worked
together
in
the
past
on
legislation,
and
I
appreciate
that
I
just
we
haven't
had
a
chance
to
work
together
yet
in
your
new
role,
but
I
know
that
we're
going
to
before
we
take
questions
I
do
want
to
let
members
know
we
had
some
discussion
about
assembly
bill
17.
A
today
is
not
the
hearing
for
that.
So
if
you
have
questions
about
assembly
bill
17,
the
general
discharge,
I'd
ask
you
to
hold
those
until
we
actually
have
a
hearing
on
that
bill
and
we'll
have
a
chance
to
to
vet
it
in
a
little
more
detail.
Get
some
background
get
some
support.
Some
opposition,
I
think
today
was
kind
of
a
preview
and
I
do
intend
to
hear
that
bill,
hopefully
in
the
next
next
couple
of
weeks
or
next
few
weeks.
A
So
so
far
I
have
some
questions,
but
I'm
going
to
hold
off
because
I
think
my
members
normally
cover
my
questions
as
well,
because
they're
they're
good
like
that.
So
so
far
I
have
a
couple
people
in
the
queue
I
have
assemblywoman,
cohen
and
assemblywoman
or
excuse
me
assemblyman
miller.
It
used
to
be
assemblywoman
miller.
I
get
that
confused,
so
it's
assemblyman
miller.
I
see
that
assemblywoman.
Kasama
has
a
question
so
so
far
we'll
go
in
the
order
of
those
three
and
then
we'll
take
up
additional
questions.
So
please
go
ahead.
Assemblywomancohen.
C
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
director,
lawson
for
the
presentation.
I
have
a
question
about
the
day,
reporting,
centers
or
center.
We
had
passed
some
legislation
regarding
that
in
17
I
toured
the
facility
in
18.
C
I
think
it
was,
and
it
seemed
like
a
program
that
had
a
lot
of
promise
to
help
some
of
the
clients
who
need
some
extra
help,
get
get
back
into
the
program
and
and
kind
of
doing
what
they
needed
to
do,
because
they
certainly
weren't
shouldn't,
have
been
headed
back
to
prison
or
anything
like
that,
but
the
just
what
happened
to
it?
It's
it's
down
to.
I
think.
C
As
people
may
recall,
it
was
a
private
public
partnership
and
right
now,
it's
down
to,
I
think,
like
three
of
the
private
employees
is
it's
all
as
opposed
to
before,
when
the
facility
was
full
with
with
with
pmp
officers
and
the
private
company
officers,
working
kind
of
both
ends
of
the
spectrum,
working,
the
law
enforcement
and
the
more
social
work
and
helping
people
with
the
you
know,
drug
issues
and
job
searches.
Things
like
that.
I
Address
that,
thank
you
for
your
question.
Yes,
the
the
daily
reporting
centers
were
funded
in
2017
and
they
were
up
and
running
and
the
the
las
vegas
one
started
about
six
months
before
the
reno
one
they
were.
They
were
very
successful
in
helping
to
what
their
mission
was
initially
was
to
be
a
kind
of
a
last
chance,
stop
for
offenders
who
were
on
the
verge
of
being
revoked
and
sent
and
incarcerated,
and
we
realized
the
benefits
that
program.
I
The
contract
with
the
initial
vendor
was
due
what
was
coming
expiring.
We
went
through
an
rfp
process
and
selected
a
new
vendor
and
right
about
the
time
that
that
new
vendor
was
was
ready
to
open
the
doors
in
the
new
new
locations
covid
hit
and
due
to
distancing
and
and
compliance
with
executive
orders.
I
So
we
couldn't
put
the
offenders
into
those
those
confined
spaces
and
ultimately
you
know
the
funding
for
those
who
was
reverted
during
the
special
session
to
address
the
shortfalls
in
the
in
the
general
fund,
and
it
was
not
included
in
the
recommended
budget
moving
forward.
C
So,
okay,
so
I'm
I'm
still
kind
of
confused
about
the
timeline,
because
I
I
I
happened
to
work
in
an
office
that
bought
the
building
that
where
the
las
vegas
state
reporting
center
was
and-
and
we
moved
in
right
as
as
covet
hid
right
as
the
lockdown
started.
So
it
was
pre
pre
well
months
before
the
special
session,
and
it
was
already
down
to
like
three
private
officers
and
I
think
they
moved
out
last
week.
But
there
were
so
there
were
still
there
were
still
are.
C
I
Sure-
and
I
know
the
director
wants
to
chime
in
so
I'll-
give
him
some
some
I'll
try
to
address
your
immediate
question
and
turn
it
over
to
direction
director
for
for
his
comment
as
well.
Yeah
the
daily
reporting
center
in
las
vegas,
ours
four-day
reporting
purposes
closed
last
spring.
There
may
have
been
some.
I
I
guess,
house
arrest
follow-up
there,
because
we
did
have
our
house
arrest
unit
kind
of
working
out
of
that
same
office
space,
but
the
funding
for
that
was
reverted
during
the
special
session
and
we
didn't
it
certainly
hasn't
had
any
operation
since
july.
I
don't
know
the
timing
of
where
we
moved
out.
You
know,
I
know
the
furniture
for
the
day
reporting
center
is
in
in
the
warehouse
in
las
vegas
at
our
office.
I
So
I'm
not
I'm
not
sure
about
your
timing
that
you're
discussing
there,
but
I
think
that
might
have
been
the
residuals
as
the
services
were
scaled
back.
Perhaps
that
was
the
house
arrest
unit
that
was
still
seeing
clients
there
and
not
the
day,
reporting
sooner.
Okay,.
C
Because
because
there
are
still
daily,
there
are
still
parolees
and
probationers
who
are
showing
up
and
and
they're,
showing
up
at
the
office
and
they're
doing
some
sort
of
some
sort
of
something
with
with
the
private
company
but,
like
I
said
it's
down
to
like
the
three
people,
and
I
don't
know
so.
If
I,
I
guess
that's
part
of
the
question
in
general,
like
what
are
our
parole
and
probationers
doing
with
this
private
company
and
is
that
a
contract
that
just
is
kind
of
going
to
expire?
C
Know
that
that
I
I
have
seen
like
the
house
arrest.
That
makes
sense,
because
there
are,
I
do
see
your
officers
occasionally
are
there
and
they're
bringing
someone
and
there,
but
it's
just
it's
so
odd,
considering
how
how
full
that
office
had
been
and
how
clearly
there
were
lots
of
services
being
provided.
I
I
We've
also
changed
our
house
arrest
vendor
recently,
due
to
a
you
know,
we
went
out
to
bid
for
for
that
service
as
well.
So
I
wouldn't
expect
there
to
be
any
more
offenders
at
your
location
because
initially,
the
the
first
day
reporting
center
vendor
was
the
same
vendor
as
our
house
arrest
provider
and
since
first
the
day
reporting
center
went
to
a
new
vendor
under
the
rfp
award
and
then
subsequently
the
house
arrest
has
gone
to
a
different
vendor
under
the
rfp
award.
I
C
Right,
I
know
they
did
just
move
out
a
few
days
ago,
but
if
maybe,
if
I,
instead
of
holding
everyone
else
up,
if
I
can
get
some
further
information
about
that
timeline
because,
like
I
said
they
were,
this,
was
this
the
week
of
the
lot
we
moved
in
the
week
at
the
lockout
so
and
we're
there
with
the
three,
like
I
said,
about
three
people
from
the
private
company.
So
so
clearly
that
was
well
before
the
budget
cuts,
and
you
know
the
the
program
showed
a
lot
of
promise.
F
George
tagliati
out
for
the
record
and
assemblywoman
content
to
respond.
I
agree
with
you
when
I
first
arrived
and
had
my
tour
of
the
day
reporting
centers.
I
was.
I
really
thought
this
is
a
really
promising
program
and
we
were
really
jazzed
up
about
it.
B
Ann
carpenter
for
the
record,
assemblyman
assemblywoman
cohen,
just
to
kind
of
provide
some
clarification.
We
went
promotion
wanted,
went
through
an
rfp
process
to
have
a
different
vendor
and
so
the
vendor.
The
contract
was
approved,
I
believe
in
february,
and
because
it
took
so
long
for
the
new
vendor
to
be
approved
and
that
sort
of
thing
we
are
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
work
with
the
current
vendor
and
transition
to
the
new
vendor
and
then
covet
hit.
B
And
so
once
that
happened,
we
were
still
trying
to
transition
figuring
that
out
and
then
and
then
we
figured
out
that
we
had
to
make
budget
cuts
and
and
then
the
day
reporting
center
was
no
longer
a
viable
solution.
So
to
hopefully
answer
your
question,
we
were
just
transitioning
to
a
different
vendor,
and
so
there
was
some
difficulty
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
transition
and
then
with
covid
and
then
having
no
funding.
Does
that
make
sense.
C
I
mean
I'm
still
kind
of
confused
about
why
we,
we
still
had
our
state
parliament
probationers
reporting
there
in
over
the
last
few
months,
but
I
can
maybe
talk
to
you
a
little
more
about
that
offline
and
and
then
maybe,
if
we
could
get
some
statistics,
if
there
are
any
statistics
on
what
the
success
was
over
the
time
that
the
program
was
functional,
I
I
think
a
lot
of
us
were
hesitant
with
a
private
public
partnership
when
it
was
presented
to
us
and
but
did
see
again,
promise
in
the
program
and-
and
maybe
this
is
kind
of
another
example
of
why
we
have
issues
with
these
private
public
partnerships,
because
when
we
have
to
change
contracts
and
do
that
type
of
thing,
when
we're
dealing
with
these
vendors,
it's
we
can
have
a
program.
C
That's
working
well
that
just
kind
of
falls
apart
and
puts
more
strain
on
on
your
department
as
well,
but
I'll
I'll,
discuss
that
more
with
you
offline.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
You're
welcome
assembly,
one
cohen,
we'll
go
next
to
assemblyman
miller
and
assemblyman
miller.
I
apologize.
You
know
we
had
a
assemblywoman
brittany
miller
on
this
committee
last
year,
so
I'm
probably
going
to
call
you
assemblywoman
a
few
more
times
in
the
next
few
weeks.
So
please
don't
take
that
personally,
it's
just
a
habit
from
last
session.
So
we're
going
to
go
to
assemblyman.
D
It's
all
good.
We
probably
should
look
at
using
the
assembly
member
at
some
point,
but
I'm
good
with
the
assembly
man
or
whatever
you
call
me
chair
is
gonna
work.
I
do
have
a
couple
of
questions.
Thank
you
all
for
the
presentation.
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
regarding
the
staffing
and
vacancies.
D
I
noticed
that
there
was
123
approximately
20
percent
that
are
vacant
the
roles,
I'm
curious
to
know.
If
you
have
like
a
demographic
breakdown
of
the
roles
that
are
filled,
what
regions
are
the
vacancies
in
right
now
and
if
there
are
strategies,
what
your
strategies
are
to
fill
those
those
roles?
I
I
And
so
speaker,
fryerson
in
our
overall
presentation
to
the
joint
money
committees,
had
asked
some
similar
questions
regarding
our
demographics
and
we're
compiling
that
and
we'll
be
happy
to
share
that
with
you
as
well
and
the
committee
as
this
comes
up.
I
Really,
our
vacancies
are
focused
primarily
in
the
in
the
you
know.
Urban
areas-
las
vegas
office
has
a
significant
number
just
because
they
have
over
50
percent
of
our
overall
staff,
but
there
are
positions
vacant.
We
have
a
number
of
our
rural
offices
that
are
at
50
percent
officer,
staffing,.
I
I
Is
there
something
another
specific
thing
I
can
ask.
I'm
sorry
if
I
ramble
I'm
just
not
not
sure
exactly
what
you're
looking
for
sir.
D
Yeah
I
was,
I
was
also
curious
about
two
things
and
if
the
information
is
coming
at
a
later
date,
that'll
be
okay.
What's
the
breakdown
of
the
six
of
the
positions
that
are
filled,
the
demographic
breakdown,
so
you
know
and
then
also
what
are
the
strategies
to
recruit
and
fill
these
roles.
I
I
think
it
is
tom
moss
again
for
the
record
our
strategy
to
recruit.
Is
that
we're
looking?
We
have
a
global
recruitment
strategy
at
the
department
level,
with
the
force
multiplying
his
view
of
the
department
is
that
an
officer
can
fill
a
number
of
roles
throughout
the
department,
and
so
we
recruit
on
a
global
basis.
I
We
focus
on
those
areas
that
we
are
traditionally
more
successful.
In
the
past.
We
we
sent
people
to
recruitment
events
in
california
at
some
of
the
junior
colleges
and
things,
but
then,
when
we're
looking
at
the
the
booth
next
to
us
for
an
agency,
that's
paying
you
know
sometimes
50
more
than
we
are.
Then
it's
very
difficult
to
to
get
any
takers
to
show
up
for
a
test
in
those
situations.
I
So
we
scaled
back
from
some
from
some
of
those
recruiting
events
where
we
we
don't
see
a
a
single
candidate
come
out
of
those,
and
we
focus
on
on
those
where
we
have
been
more
successful.
We
do
regional,
recruiting
events
instead
of
just
a
localized.
You
know
recruiting.
We
do
more
regional
events.
Now
we
publicize
those
much
better
kim
yoko
smith,
as
our
pio
has
done
an
amazing
job
of
of
getting
the
word
out
of
when
these
are
coming.
I
We
have
meetings
where,
where
our
command
and
line
staff
go
and
meet
with
potential
applicants,
to
walk
them
through
the
process
and
and
tell
them
about
the
real,
the
benefits
of
working
with
dps
and
enforce
that
you
know
once
you're
within
the
doors
of
dps,
there
are
multiple
opportunities
to
find
find
your
niche
and
your
passion
for
law
enforcement.
There
kim
would
you
like
to
chime
in
and
some
more
additional
and.
G
If
I
might
chime
in
I'm
right
before
kim,
because
kim
is
doing
such
a
good
job,
this
is
sherry
brigham
and
deputy
director
of
the
department
of
public
safety.
We've
had
a
lot
of
questions
along
those
lines
in
terms
of
the
demographics
and
we've
prepared
a
very
large
report
for
our
last
committee
that
I've
instructed
curtis
to
send
to
you,
chairman,
yeager,
that
you
could
distribute,
but
to
answer
assemblyman
miller's
question.
G
We
do
very
well
in
our
applications
coming
in
from
our
diverse
population.
If
there's
any
work
to
be
done,
it's
women
in
general,
but
for
trying
to
give
you
a
kind
of
overview
the
when
we
track
this.
We
have
a
software
program
specifically
for
this
purpose
and
in
2019
a
full
year
that
wasn't
covered
the
reported
people,
because
some
people
don't
report
at
all,
but
white
alone
was
36
of
the
applicant
pool
and,
of
course,
the
census
data
for
nevada
is.
We
are
made
up
of
73.9
percent.
G
Black
alone
was
12.5
percent
of
the
applicant
pool
and
according
to
the
u.s
census,
compare
that
to
10.3
percent
of
the
population.
G
Asian
alone
was
3.7
and
again
the
census
shows
8.7
and
there's
some
smaller
ones
as
well,
and
then
we
get
to
hispanic
is
23.3
of
our
applicant
pool
and
it
is
representative
of
the
29
of
the
population
for
the
state
of
nevada.
G
So
we
found
that
females
are
still
lower
than
we'd
like
to
see
them,
and
our
diversity
numbers
are
looking
pretty
strong.
With
respect
to
hispanic.
We
continue
to
target
our
recruitment,
and
most
recently,
we've
been
coming
up
new
with
new
ways
to
have
the
communities
embrace
us
and
hopefully
get
the
message
out
to
all
the
people
of
the
state.
G
But
we
are
actually
chatting
about
a
citizens
committee
or
academy
where
we
can
show
the
citizens
and
send
an
invitation
to
a
group
of
people
to
come
out
and
see
our
use
of
force
demonstration,
because
we
have
a
new
simulator
coming
with
a
grant
money.
Thank
you
very
much
that
might
be
very
interesting
and
fascinating,
so
we're
trying
to
appeal
to
all
aspects
of
the
population,
but
the
reality
of
the
situation
is
that
we,
our
officers
not
that
I'm
one
of
them
are
significantly
lower
paid
than
all
the
other
local
law
enforcement.
G
Local
law
enforcement
agencies
with
respect
to
metro,
washoe
pay
their
portion
of
purse
and,
in
our
officer's
case
out
of
their
salary,
comes
up
to
44
percent
to
cover
their
share
occurs.
So
an
officer
coming
on
is
making
very
very
little
and
it's
very
hard
for
them
to
meet
the
needs
of
their
families
and
their
financial
obligations.
Right
now,
and
I'm
hopeful
that
soon
we
can
look
at
the
situation
and
hopefully
repair
it,
but
it
doesn't
appeal
to
any
of
the
population
regardless
of
the
diversity.
D
Follow
up
chair,
please
please
go
ahead!
Thank
you.
Just
just
want
to
follow
up
on
that.
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
information
and
being
able
to
send
over
that
study
so
that
we
can
dive
into
it
a
bit
more.
I'm
sure
some
questions
will
pop
up
later
on,
but
just
in
for
me
the
last
one
would
you
say
the
biggest
challenge
is
the
pay
to.
B
A
A
B
Overview,
I
had
a
question
you're
you're
restructuring
the
officers
and
the
sergeant,
and
there
was
a
comment
that
over
supervision
leads
to
recidivism
and
I'm
just
curious,
and
because
I'm
sure
this
has
been
well
thought
out
for
a
long
time
are
these
models
based
on
other
states,
you've
seen
that
have
implemented
it,
and
then
after
was
implemented,
they
could
compare
to
prior
history
that
this
does
work
or
how
did
this?
What
was
the
seed
for?
How
all
of
this
started?.
I
Tom
austin,
for
the
record,
I'm
sorry
your
audio
is
cutting
in
now.
I
believe
I
have
the
gist
of
it,
but
if
I,
if
I've
missed
the
topic,
please
let
me
know
if
I
understood
your
question
correctly,
it
was
regarding
the
low-risk
supervision,
module
and
the
foundation
behind
our
thought
process
of
looking
at
this,
this
new
and
correct
the
new
structure.
Okay,
yes,
in
the
past,
we've
looked
closely
at
other
agencies.
I
The
state
of
georgia
is
very
progressive
in
in
their
methodology
of
supervision.
We've
we've
explored
theirs
and,
in
fact,
that's
one
of
the
places
that
we
we
examine.
The
daily
reporting
centers
was
in
georgia
and
the
success
there.
Overall,
it's
you
know.
I
The
best
practices
is
overall
there's
a
number
of
different
entities
that
look
at
these,
these
things
and
track
recidivism,
and
yes,
we
we
do
try
to
model
and
and
emulate
some
of
the
other
successful
entities
out
there
like
I
said
we
examined
georgia's
techniques
quite
a
bit,
but
also
it
was
also
internal
factors
that
were
driving
it.
I
Yes,
we
know
about
the
studies
that
talk
about
recidivism
and
over
supervision
can
induce
recidivism,
but
it
was
also
an
efficiency
model
of
if
we're
going
to
carry
x,
number
of
officer
positions
that
we're
unable
to
fill.
Well.
That's
increasing
the
caseload
of
all
of
our
other
officers
because
we're
we're
given
x
number
of
officers
depending
on
our
caseload
ratio
when
we
have
17
20
vacancy
in
the
officers
that
work
load
has
to
be
carried
by
somebody
else,
and
so
we
either
scale
back
supervision
overall
or
we'll.
I
I
Excuse
me,
the
specialist,
the
probation
specialists,
using
them
for
the
administrative
supervision
functions,
reduce
the
demand
on
the
officers
and
allow
us
to
use
less
officers
for
that
same
supervision,
pod
and
kind
of
just
shifting
our
allocation
of
positions
to
more
efficiently
use
it.
So
it's
a
combination
of
all
those
things.
How
do
we
address
the
vacancy
rate
and
alleviate
the
the
strain
placed
on
the
on
the
existing
officers?
I
Because,
honestly,
beyond
the
pay,
when
you're
overworked
you,
you
also
look
for
a
different
job,
and
so
when
some
of
our
officers
are
having
you
know
an
extra
30
percent
or
an
extra
50
percent
of
their
caseload
because
of
vacancies,
then
they
look
for
other
solutions
as
well.
In
fact,
we
had
a
an
officer
just
within
the
last
six
months,
resigned
because
of
their
caseload,
and
they
went
to
work
for
an
agency
that
actually
paid
less
than
us,
so
overwork
is
also
a
viable
retention
consideration.
I
I
hope
that
that
addresses
your
your
questions
and
a
woman.
Yes,.
A
And
I
I
had
a
mention
in
the
chat
that
director
tagliati
would
like
to
add
something
as
well
so
director.
Please
go
ahead.
F
Thank
you,
mr
george.
Tagliati,
for
the
record.
I
just
wanted
to
revisit
the
recruitment
retention
piece
and
I
I
got
to
support
everything
that
my
deputy
sherry
has
mentioned.
F
She
got
into
some
of
the
detail,
but
one
thing
that
was
really
apparent
to
me
when
I
entered
the
state
system
is
the
difference
between
what
we
have
in
the
state
of
nevada
and
the
federal
system
in
the
federal
system
you
can
be
in
the
fbi
or
you
can
be
a
u.s
marshals
service
and
it
has
its
own
retirement
each
had
their
own
retirement
system
here
in
the
state.
We
all
have
hers
and
I
was
just
looking
at
an
increase
in
their
participation
fees,
but
our
purse
is
also
the
metropolitan
police
department's
purse.
F
F
So
when,
as
far
as
retention
it
can
happen
during
an
entire
career
someone
will
it
wouldn't
hurt
them
financially,
just
to
jump
from.
You
know
one
agency
to
other.
So
now
we
have
a
situation
where,
as
recently
as
the
end
of
last
month,
we
were
advised
that
pers
is
going
to
take
a
a
larger
share
of
the
deduction
from
their
paycheck,
which
now
some
of
our
employees
may
say,
hey
wait
a
minute.
F
I
will
go
to
an
agency
that
does
the
matching
first
and
I
don't
have
to,
and
I
can
save
this
amount
of
production.
So
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
it's
kind
of
the
nature
of
the
beast,
if
you
will,
with
the
retirement
system
as
it's
in
place,
so
that
hurts
us
as
much
as
the
disparate
pay
between
say,
metro,
north
las
vegas,
western
county
and
our
highway
patrol
foreign
probation
officers.
F
So
they
do
make
less
the
capitol
police,
for
example,
were
we
made
an
effort
to
get
that
from
dps1
to
dps2,
because
we
really
have
to
have
difficulty
recruiting
and
a
lot
of
those
folks
are
retired
officers
from
other
departments,
but
it's
extremely
difficult
because
they're,
the
lowest,
probably
pay
wise
on
the
chain
and
so
competition
is,
is
heavy
you're
going
looking
at
minority
recruiting
recruiting
for
for
women
and
all
of
a
sudden,
as
tom
mentioned,
you
look
at
the
next
booth
and
who's
there.
F
These
other
agencies
are
aware.
You
know
john
mary
whomever
they
are
really
keepers.
We
are
trying
to
recruit
them
to
our
department
and
that
happens
active
I
mean
every
day
when
they're,
interacting
with
other
agencies.
Where-
and
you
know,
god
bless
the
other
agencies,
but
they
see
talent,
they
know
talent,
they
have
the
same
requirements.
We
do.
They
have
the
same
objectives
to
try
to
bring
in
the
best
of
the
best,
whether
it's
minorities,
women
or
anyone
and
they're
beating
us
up
pretty
good.
F
F
One-Year
program
I'm
involved
with
now
with
the
fbi
and
other
state
agencies
around
the
country.
With
this
executive
leadership
institute
part
of
the
brainstorming,
there
is
going
to
be
recruitment
and
retention,
as
well
as
criminal
justice
reform,
and
also
the
kind
of
the
change
in
focus
change
in
attitude.
F
If
you
will
around
the
country
regarding
how
people
look
at
law
enforcement,
how
people
look
at
cops
and
how
many
young
people
are
coming
coming
up
now
and
not
wanting
to
get
involved
in
criminal
justice
programs,
maybe
taking
different
majors
in
college,
but
certainly
don't
want
to
put
themselves
in
harm's
way
based
on
the
environment.
We
have
in
this
country
right
now,
and
so
it's
not
just
us
as
dps.
It's
not
us
as
the
state
of
nevada.
F
This
is
obviously
a
problem
nationwide
and
I
think
it's
important
we
become
on
the
cutting
edge
of
that
and
we
stay
involved
and
we
find
out
other
ways
to
to
solve
this
problem
and
the
more
we
can
educate
ourselves
as
to
possibly
what
other
agencies
are
doing
and
so
on
and
so
forth
will
certainly
help.
But
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we've
got
to
truly
understand.
F
A
Thank
you
for
those
comments.
Director
certainly
appreciate
the
challenges
your
agencies
facing
have
only
been
augmented
by
the
current
financial
situation
of
the
state,
but
you
know
can't
make
any
promises
this
session,
but
hopefully,
as
we
move
forward
and
the
state
recovers,
we
can
address
some
of
those
at
least
try
to.
B
Thank
you.
I
guess
this
is
more
of
a
comment
and
less
of
a
question.
I
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
know
that
our
state
employees
are
just
expected
to
do
so
much
more
with
so
much
less
and
having
worked
with
various
law
enforcement
agencies
in
my
professional
life,
but
also
in
this
legislative
role.
I
do
want
to
say
that
I
appreciate
like
the
innovation
and
creativity
and
willingness
to
look
at
evidence-based
practices
in
the
direction
that
the
division
is
headed.
B
You
know
I
was
fortunate
enough
to
work
with
chief
anne
carpenter,
and
so
I
know
her
leadership
can
be
seen
in
the
direction
of
the
agency
that
you
know
she's
been
in
charge
of,
and
so
I
look
forward
to
some
of
the
new
proposed
structures
that
you're
looking
at
and
as
well
as
hearing
some
of
the
proposed
legislation
that
you
have
this
session.
So
just
want
to
throw
that
out.
There.
A
A
E
Try
to
unmute
yeah,
I
just
it
is
directed
to
chief
lawson.
I
want
to
first
congratulate
him
and
thank
him
for
volunteering
to
take
on
the
helm
of
a
division
that
truly
has
a
very
difficult
mission
and
challenging
mission,
but
specifically
on
your
ancient
housing
program.
It
sounds
like
a
great
program.
I
This
is
tom
lawson
for
the
record.
Thank
you,
simon
o'neil
of
the
question,
and
thank
you
for
your
kind
words.
And
yes,
absolutely.
We
have
our
sergeant
who
oversees
that
program.
Part
of
their
responsibilities
is
the
development
of
vendors
and
participating
vendors
for
those
programs,
and
so
we've
also
partnered,
with
ndoc
and
working
both
sides
of
obtaining
identification
and
and
really
setting
the
foundation
for
applications
for
the
inmates
as
they
transition
out
into
into
the
community.
I
Some
of
these
vendors
won't
programs
won't
take
people
unless
they
go
through
a
vetting
process
ahead
of
time.
Some
of
that
requires
birth
certificates,
and
so
our
case,
the
case
workers
at
ndoc
work
with
our
embedded
specialists
and
and
both
of
our
staffs
work
really
well
in
this
regard,
in
terms
of
trying
to
get
those
foundational
documents
in
place,
I
know
that's
been
discussed
in
last
session.
I
Quite
a
bit
of
of
the
efforts
ndoc
has
is
made
to
to
obtain
those
documents
to
better
position
the
inmates,
as
they
transition
out
into
the
community,
but
we
do
a
pre-vetting
process,
and
so,
if,
if
we
know
that
a
releasing
inmate
is
a
veteran,
then
we
start
to
explore
the
program,
opportunities
and
housing
opportunities
before
they
are,
or
I
guess
in
the
initial
phases
of
their
release,
planning
and
so
some
of
those.
I
Sometimes
the
the
bed
dates
for
some
of
those
programs
are
are
quite
a
bit
out,
though,
especially
now
that
kovit
has
had
a
lot
of
those
vendors
that
we
were
partnering
with,
are
reluctant
to
accept
new
entrants,
and
so
that
has
or
limited
their
capacity
of
their
program,
and
so
that
has
stretched
out
when
beds
become
available
for
those
releasing
inmates
which
has
an
impact
on
the
flow
of
some
of
those
inmates.
Out
of
the
prison.
I
If
they're
designed
to
go
into
a
specific
program
because
of
their
va
funding
or
because
of
their
support-
and
they
can't
get
a
bed
date
for
a
few
months,
then
they'll
either
have
to
look
at
a
different
avenue
which
may
not
be
as
attractive
for
their
release
and
their
long-term
success,
or
they
have
to
to
stay
in
until
that
bed
becomes
available.
But,
yes,
we're
actively
looking
for
all
avenues.
We
have
a
number
of
partnerships
with
both
programs
and
and
have
explored
innovative
solutions
to
that
to
see
if
it
was
possible.
I
We
talked
to
purchasing
about
the
possibility
of
establishing
you
know
long-term
solutions
with
some
vendors,
where
we
would
kind
of
control
the
flow
of
of
the
person
in
and
out
of
of
the
program
without
having
like
a
new
registration
every
single
time
the
the
bed
were
to
turn
over
to
a
new
new
inmate.
Just
things
like
that
to
to
be
more
efficient
with
the
limited
pool
of
resources
we've
been
given,
and
as
well
as
keeping
the
flow
of
inmates
into
those
programs,
an
empty
bed
doesn't
do
anybody
any
good.
I
So
our
goal
is
to
keep
them
as
full.
As
we
possibly
can,
given
our
means
and
to
have
a
queue
of
appropriate
candidates
ready
for
admission
into
those
programs
want
to
speed
up
the
releases
from
from
custody,
but
also
to
you
know,
make
the
get
the
best
bang
for
the
the
limited
dollars
we
have
in
that
program.
A
A
I'm
scrolling
through
it
don't
seem
to
see
any
other
questions.
Let
me
just
take
one
more
chance
to
look
okay,
great,
so
chief
lawson,
the
only
one
I
have,
and
you
know
I
guess,
by
way
of
background
I'll,
just
mention
to
the
committee
that
some
years
ago,
before
any
of
us
were
here
in
the
legislature,
the
legislature
basically
enacted
the
adam
walsh
act
in
the
state,
which
required
certain
sex
offenders
to
have
to
essentially
be
on
lifetime
supervision.
And
that
was
a
new
addition
to
the
statute.
And
I
don't
know
when
that
was.
A
I
want
to
say
it
was
you
probably
know
chief
lawson
but
15
20
years
ago,
and
there
was
a
concern
over
the
years
that
the
number
of
people
who
would
be
on
lifetime
supervision
would
just
continue
to
sort
of
exponentially
increase
and
that
it
would
be
a
major
burden
on
the
division
of
pearl
and
probation,
because
they'd
have
to
supervise
these
folks,
in
addition
to
the
regular
parole
and
probationers.
So
you
know
my
question
chief
lawson
is,
you
know
are:
has
that
come
to
pass?
A
I
Thank
you
for
your
question.
Chairman
yeager
lifetime
supervision
is
really
a
misnomer.
It's
it's
a
term
of
lifetime.
Supervision
really
doesn't
give
the
division
a
lot
of
authority
to
truly
supervise
we're
very
limited
on
the
things
that
we
can
monitor
a
lifetime
offender
for
even
with
the
passage
of
sb8
last
year
last
session.
I
It
doesn't
really
give
us
a
whole
heck
of
a
lot
of
power
to
to
exercise
control
over
them.
The
adam
wall
shack
was
delayed
in
implementation
due
to
a
number
of
lawsuits,
and
so
I
believe
that
didn't
finally
go
active
until
november
of
2018,
I
believe
off
the
top
of
my
head.
I
may
misspoke
there,
but
it
was.
I
It
was
not
until
very
recently
that
adam
walsh,
act
and
realist
realistically
became
in
play
and
that
changed
the
tiering
level
of
a
lot
of
sex
defenders
and
chief
mckay
would
would
know
better
than
I
on
the
impact
to
to
the
tiering,
and
things
like
that,
but,
like
I
said,
there's
also
a
number
of
conditions
there
in
statute
now
that
if
a
lifetime
sex
offender
is
current
on
their
registrations
for
10
years,
and
they
don't
commit
a
new
crime
within
certain
parameters,
then
we
are
required
to
release
them
from
or
request
a
release
from
lifetime
supervision.
I
And
so
you
know
the
number
of
offenders
they'll
they'll
do
their
time
they'll
they
will
meet
the
the
requirements
and
they
will
apply
to
be
released
and
it
is
a
mandatory
release.
There
is
no
discretion
given
in
the
statute
of
whether
this
person
should
be
released
or
not.
If
they
meet
the
criteria,
they
must
be
released
and
so
that
I
think
balances
out
the
numbers,
but
other
than
that.
Our
population,
as
shown
by
the
graph,
is
as
we
combine
it
with
the
the
the
conditional
release.
A
Great,
thank
you
chief
lawson.
It's
encouraging
to
hear
that,
given
where
we
are
time
wise,
I
think
we
probably
ought
to
move
on,
but
chief
lawson.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
being
here
to
present
and
and
answer
all
of
our
questions.
I
know
we're
going
to
see
you
very
soon
in
the
context
of
the
bill
hearing
for
ab17,
we
will
reach
out
to
you
to
try
to
get
that
scheduled
at
a
time
that
works
for
you,
director
tagliati.
A
So
have
a
have
a
great
rest
of
the
day
and
committee
we're
going
to
now
move
on
to
our
final
presentation
and
I'm
going
to
welcome
to
the
committee
chairman,
christopher
dorico,
from
the
state
board
of
parole
commissioners.
Thank
you
chairman
for
being
so
patient
and
for
sitting
through
the
rest
of
this
hearing.
I
have
committed
to
see
you
know.
A
I've
had
the
pleasure
to
work
with
chairman
dorico
quite
a
bit
over
the
last
two
or
three
years
in
terms
of
criminal
justice
reform
and
he
like
director,
tagliati
and
his
staff,
has
just
been
wonderful
to
work
with
incredibly
responsive
and
helpful
to
some
of
the
efforts
that
we've
been
doing
here
in
the
legislature.
So
welcome
back
to
the
assembly,
judiciary,
committee,
chairman
drico
and
please
proceed
when
you're
ready.
A
Yes,
we
see
it
on
the
screen,
I
think
we're
ready
to
go
and
for
anyone
who
might
just
be
listening
in
you
can
view
it
on
nellis
as
well,
at
your
leisure,
great.
J
J
J
I
was
saddened
to
learn
yesterday
about
the
passing
of
your
sergeant
of
arms.
Robin
bates
not
only
was
robin
an
integral
part
of
your
legislative
family,
but
he
was
also
a
part
of
my
family
here
at
the
parole
board,
you
see
robin
was
employed
for
approximately
the
last
12
years
as
a
contracted
hearing
representative
for
the
full
board
and
filled
in
for
parole
hearings
when
necessary
and
aided
the
board
in
many
other
ways.
J
He
was
employed
here
until
his
recent
passing
and
took
great
pride
in
being
able
to
take
a
six-month
break
from
the
parole
board
duties
every
other
year
to
come
work.
Alongside
all
of
you,
this
is
a
very
large
large
loss
to
all
of
you,
but
it's
also
a
very
large
loss
to
all
of
us
at
the
parole
board.
J
Robin
was
my
friend
I'll,
miss
time
spending
time
alongside
him,
both
inside
and
outside
the
office.
For
those
of
you
that
knew
robin,
I
grieve
alongside
you
and
for
those
of
you
new
here.
I'm
sorry
that
you
did
not
get
the
opportunity
to
work
with
him.
He
would
have
considered
him
a
friend
as
well.
He
epitomized
nevada,
he
loved
the
state
and
he
was
always
willing
and
ready
to
serve.
J
J
J
J
J
The
parole
board
is
responsible
for
making
decisions
to
either
grant
or
deny
parole.
However,
that
does
not
mean
that
we
approve
or
deny
parole
release
plans.
We
make
parole
decisions
and
favorable
decisions
are
passed
on
to
the
division
of
poland,
probation
they
investigate
and
determine
whether
a
release
plan
is
appropriate
or
if
a
subsequent
plan
needs
to
be
developed.
J
J
J
What
this
tells
you
is
that
we
are
an
independent
body
and
we
are
established
under
the
governor
in
terms
of
who
sits
on
the
board.
Commissioners
serve
four-year
terms.
We
are
a
very
small
agency
with
only
27
full-time
employees
located
at
two
offices
throughout
the
state,
one
in
las
vegas
and
one
in
carson
city.
J
J
This
is
the
nevada
board
of
parole
commissioners
organization
chart.
You
will
see
the
chairman
oversees
the
operations
of
the
entire
office.
However,
the
chairman
does
not
oversee
the
commissioners.
We
all
work
for
the
governor.
Interestingly,
there's
no
executive
director
type
of
position
directly
under
the
chairman
who
manages
the
day-to-day
operations
of
the
office.
J
J
The
chairman
has
many
other
tasks
to
complete
without
a
position
directly
below
to
assist
the
chairman
also
directly
supervises
four
individuals
who
are
termed
managers
who
all
have
several
individuals
below
then
off
to
the
right
side.
You'll
also
notice
that
the
parole
board
assists
the
pardons
board,
our
staff
reviews
applications
for
community
cases,
and
if
they
meet
the
criteria,
the
information
is
forwarded
to
the
division
of
parole
and
probation
for
investigation.
J
J
Regarding
parole
supervision,
once
we
decide
to
grant
parole
to
one
to
an
inmate,
they
are
supervised
by
the
division
of
parole
and
probation.
If
an
inmate
is
granted
parole,
the
division
of
poland
probation
provides
that
supervision.
They
do
this
by
monitoring
the
police
residence
job
activities
associates
along
with
other
duties.
J
J
J
The
parole
board
is
part
of
the
judicial
system,
statutes
give
us
our
marching
orders
and
tell
us
how
and
what
we
are
supposed
to
do.
The
parole
board
offers
the
system
some
flexibility,
it's
not
black
and
white.
For
example,
an
individual
may
be
sentenced
to
a
term
of
imprisonment
for
a
term
of
two
to
twenty
years.
J
There
are
multiple
types
of
parole
hearings
and
I
will
try
and
explain
them
to
you
now.
A
discretionary
parole
hearing
is
exactly
that.
It
is
at
the
discretion
of
the
board
when
an
inmate
is
eligible
for
parole.
The
board
will
conduct
a
hearing
to
determine
if
this
is
the
appropriate
time
to
release
a
particular
inmate
out
onto
parole
supervision.
J
J
J
J
Well,
there
are
many
considerations
for
a
discretionary
hearing.
The
primary
concern
for
mandatory
parole
hearing
as
set
by
statute
is
public
safety
recently
as
a
result
of
ab236
which
passed
in
the
2019
legislative
session
and
effective
july.
1
2020,
the
board
can
now
grant
mandatory
parole
in
abstentia
on
certain
cases.
As
long
as
the
inmate
has
served
three
or
more
years
on
their
effective
sentence,
they
do
not
have
a
consecutive
sentence
have
not
previously
been
granted
parole
on
the
effective
sentence
and
they
are
eligible
to
do
this.
J
J
If
it's
determined
that
the
board
may
not
grant
mandatory
parole
in
abstentia,
an
in-person
hearing
will
be
scheduled
as
part
of
ab236.
The
board
may
now
conduct
geriatric
parole
hearings
for
certain
qualified
inmates.
In
order
to
qualify,
an
inmate
cannot
have
been
convicted
of
certain
crimes,
for
example,
crimes
of
violence,
crimes
against
a
child,
sexual
offenses
or
vehicular
homicide.
Nor
do
they
qualify
if
they
are
found
to
be
a
habitual
criminal.
J
J
J
The
board
also
conducts
reconsideration
hearings.
An
example
of
this
may
occur
when
an
inmate
who
was
granted
parole,
but
not
yet
released,
is
found
guilty
of
a
major
violation
of
prison
rules
in
these
types
of
cases,
and
the
department
of
corrections
generally
provides
the
board
with
notification
of
the
rule
violation.
J
J
A
proley
may
meet
certain
requirements
in
order
to
qualify
such
as
having
served
at
least
12
months
on
parole
and
have
less
than
12
months
of
parole,
remaining
no
violation
of
supervision
conditions
within
the
preceding
12
months.
Current
with
supervision
fees
paid
restitution
in
full,
unless
the
division
of
parole
and
probation
determines
an
economic
hardship
and
completed
any
substance,
abuse
or
mental
health
treatment
program,
the
division
of
prolonged
probation
starts
this
process
and
remem
recommends
it
when
it
is
appropriate.
J
The
board
also
conducts
lifetime
supervision
hearings.
Lifetime
supervision
is
imposed
upon
convicted
sex
offenders,
who
have
met
the
statutory
requirements
of
their
sentences,
either
through
probation,
parole
or
completion
of
a
custodial
term.
These
offenders
have
an
additional
term
of
supervision
of
at
least
10
years
to
life,
and
they
are
supervised
by
the
division
of
poland.
Probation
the
board
by
statute
is
required
to
set
those
conditions.
J
J
Each
of
these
decisions
require
a
minimum
of
four
votes
in
order
to
ratify,
which
equates
equates
to
approximately
27
252
decisions
entered
by
commissioners
in
the
last
fiscal
year.
If
you
include
the
hearings
that
did
not
result
in
final
parole
decision,
we
held
approximately
8723
hearings
during
fiscal
year
20..
J
J
If
you
look
at
the
caseload
for
fiscal
year
2016
through
projected
fiscal
year
2023,
it
details
the
general
caseload
over
the
past
few
years,
along
with
the
projections
for
the
remainder
of
this
fiscal
year
and
the
projections
for
fiscal
years
2022
and
2023,
the
projections
were
taken
from
the
jim
f
austin
institute.
Jfa
fall
2020
forecast
the
fisc
the
figures
for
fiscal
year
2021
are
based
on
six
months
of
actual
hearings,
3982
to
include
discretionary,
mandatory
and
violation
hearings.
These
hearings
also
reflect
any
hearings
that
resulted
in
no
action.
J
J
The
violation
hearing
projections
are
based
on
jfa's
assumption
that
there
will
be
11.4
decrease
in
parole
violators.
These
assumptions
are
based
on
the
jfa
draft
10-year
prison
population
projections
encompassing
the
years
of
2020
to
2030..
The
most
recent
draft
was
used
since
it
addresses
the
new
legislation
in
ab-236
passed
in
the
2019
legislative
session.
J
J
Remember
these
all
could
have
been
for
a
violent,
related
offense.
We've
included
the
actual
numbers
for
the
first
half
of
fiscal
year,
2021
on
this
chart
as
well.
What
we
are
seeing
now
in
the
first
half
of
fiscal
year
2021
is
an
increased
caseload
over
the
past
year.
You
can
see
that
if
we
continue
with
this
trend,
we'll
have
approximately
6238
parole
hearings
in
fiscal
year.
2021..
J
J
J
on
march
15th
of
2020
the
governor
closed
state
offices
to
the
public.
However,
per
statute,
all
of
our
parole
hearings
must
be
open
to
the
public.
This
left
the
board
to
find
a
way
to
move
forward
during
the
early
months
of
covet
19,
especially
since
the
department
of
corrections
had
already
closed
their
facilities
to
visitors
prior
to
march
15
2020.
J
This
left
the
public
with
nowhere
to
attend
a
hearing.
Certainly
the
board
did
not
want
to
defer
hearings
out
until
whenever
state
offices
were
once
again
open
to
the
public.
If
we
would
have
done
that,
we
would
have
created
a
backlog
of
inmate
hearings
down
the
road.
In
addition,
had
we
done
this,
it
would
have
denied
certain
inmates
the
opportunities
to
release
to
the
community
in
a
timely
manner
when
they
were
eligible.
J
What
the
board
could
do
was
grant
parole
to
inmates
without
a
meeting
if
they
met
certain
requirements.
I
want
to
make
sure
this
point
is
very
clear:
the
board
can
grant
parole
without
a
hearing
in
certain
cases,
but
we
cannot
deny
parole
without
a
hearing.
Statute
does
not
allow
the
board
to
deny
without
a
hearing.
J
As
a
result,
the
board
the
board
went
through
the
the
files
for
all
inmates
who
were
eligible
for
parole
in
the
second
half
of
march,
all
of
april
and
all
of
may
2020.
J
we're
able
to
grant
parole
in
abstentia
to
those
inmates
that
would
have
likely
been
granted
at
an
actual
hearing
for
the
cases
where
parole
would
have
been
denied
or
a
hearing
was
necessary
or
additional
information
was
needed.
We
requested
no
action
and
those
cases
were
rescheduled
for
a
subsequent
hearing
which
began
again
as
soon
as
june
of
2020.
J
As
a
result,
this
did
increase
our
no
action
hearings
in
the
fiscal
year.
However,
by
moving
forward
on
the
cases
that
met
the
requirements,
our
grant
rate
percentage
for
the
month
of
march
2020
was
74,
which
is
significantly
higher
than
our
average
months.
Additionally,
our
grant
rate
percentage
for
the
month
of
may
and
june
2020
were
100
percent.
As
we
were
only
able
to
grant
parole
in
abstentia,
we
could
not
deny
any
paroles
in
abstentia.
J
We
must
have
a
hearing
to
do
so,
since
hearings
were
not
held
during
this
time
period,
it
inflated
our
grant
rate
percentages
for
fiscal
year.
2021
of
note,
our
offices
were
closed
from
approximately
mid-march
through
may
31st
2020,
once
the
governor
allowed
state
offices
to
open
to
the
public
again
with
social
distancing
requirements
in
june
of
2020,
our
grant
rates
return
to
their
normal
average
range.
J
J
A
technical
violator
must
progress
through
the
30
90
180
day,
temporary
revocation
process
before
being
able
to
be
fully
revoked
or
within
statutory
limits.
Remember
temporary
revocations
do
not
apply
if
an
offender
has
been
found
guilty
of
certain
new
crimes
or
if
they
absconded
from
their
supervision.
This
is
for
technical
violations
of
supervision.
Only
this
chart
details
the
amount
of
temporary
violation,
revocations
and
reinstatements
from
july
1
2020
through
december
31
2020.
J
J
Certainly,
the
cost
of
supervision
is
much
less
than
of
community
supervision
is
much
less
than
supervising
individuals
in
an
institutional
setting,
and
our
commissioners
and
support
staff
are
very
aware
of
this.
Our
staff
works
very
hard
to
do
what
we
can
to
serve
the
best
interests
of
all
citizens
in
the
state
of
nevada.
J
If
any
of
you
would
care
to
spend
a
morning
or
afternoon
with
us
observing
hearings,
please
feel
free
to
contact
me
and
I'll
make
sure
to
set
that
up.
As
previously
stated,
our
hearings
are
open
to
the
public.
Lastly,
our
website
address
is
on
this
slide.
Additional
information
can
be
found
here
to
include
our
quarterly
reports.
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
present
today
and
if
any
member
of
the
committee
has
any
questions,
please
let
me
know
thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
chair
dorico,
and,
if
I
could
ask
you
to,
if
there
you
go,
we
stopped
sharing
your
screen,
so
I
can
have
a
chance
to
see
the
other
members
chairman
rico.
I
wanted
to
thank
you
first
for
your
your
comments
about
robin
bates
at
the
beginning
of
your
presentation.
I
I
did
not
know
that
he
worked
with
you
and
and
the
board,
but
that
does
not
surprise
me,
because
that
just
is
the
kind
of
guy
that
that
he
is
and
was,
and
so
so
thank
you
for
that.
A
We
are
we're
all
grieving
together
and
trying
to
get
through
this,
the
best
that
we
can,
but
I
appreciate
those
words
as,
as
I
know,
other
members
do
before
I
hand
it
over
to
other
members
for
questions.
I
just
wanted
to
ask
you
a
question
chairman
draco.
I
know
the
answer,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
new
members
who,
I
think
might
not
be
familiar.
You
had
mentioned
and
I
believe
before
you,
director,
tagliati
and
chief
lawson
had
mentioned
jfa
projections.
A
J
B
I
am
good
afternoon
good
morning
so
jfa
is,
is
it
reviews
the
current
inmate
population
trends
and
it
annual
analyzes
computer
extract
files
provided
by
the
department
of
corrections?
B
B
B
They
tend
to
be
slightly
lower
because
when
there
isn't
hard
data
on
grant
rates
to
reject
going
forward,
it's
safe
number
to
use
the
jfa
projections
for
the
parole
board,
and
I'm
not
sure
if
that
answered
all
of
your
question,
the
release
rates
are
are
different
than
grant
rates,
because
not
all
inmates
who
are
granted
release
or
granted
parole
are
released.
B
Some
grants
are
two
consecutive
sentences
and
so
jfa
counts
that
as
a
a
prism
release
rate
other
than
a
grant
rate.
J
And
I
would
add,
chair
yeager
and
I'm
not
sure
if
you
and
the
committee
have
a
copy
of
this,
if
not
it's,
I
can
forward
on
to
you
the
october
2020
version
of
the
of
the
gfa
report
to
you,
so
you
can
forward
on
to
all
members.
It's
a
it's
a
lengthy
report,
it's
a
62-page
report,
but
it
will
provide
additional
information
and
detail
if
that,
if
you
and
the
members
need
that.
A
Thank
you
to
both
of
you
for
for
for
answering
that,
and
you
know
just
to
step
back
even
a
bit
further
for
committee
members.
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
I
think
jfa
stands
for
james
f,
austin
and
so
they're,
essentially
like
I'm
gonna,
call
them
a
consulting
or
projecting
firm,
and
so
they
look
at
the
state's
data
and
they
project
what
what
the
workload
and
caseload
is
going
to
be
like
for
various
state
departments,
so
that
our
agencies
can
project
forward
and
look
at
budgets
and
staffing.
A
So
when
you
saw
sort
of
the
graph
that
chair
dorico
set
up
that
goes
through,
like
you
know,
2023
or
beyond,
you
know
those
are
projections,
and
so,
throughout
the
course
of
our
hearings,
you
might
hear
people
reference
jfa,
and
I
just
wanted
folks
to
know
that.
That's
what
that
means.
It's
essentially
a
service
provider
to
the
state.
You
know
ways
and
means,
and
senate
finance
get
way
more
in
the
weeds
on
that
stuff
than
we
will
in
this
committee.
A
But
I
want
to
at
least
have
members
be
familiar
with
the
acronym
and
know
what
it
means.
So,
thank
you
for
the
clarifying
information
for
that
I
know
so
far.
I
have
a
question
from
assemblywoman
cohen,
so
we'll
go
to
her
first
and
then
we'll
open
it
up
to
others.
C
J
J
Let
me
step
back
department
of
corrections
conducts
an
initial
risk
assessment
which
is
included
in
a
part
of
their
board
report,
and
when
we
get
that
and
we
get
that
document,
we
review
it,
and
then
we
have
staff
here
that
review
those
what
the
recommendations
or
what
that
risk
assessment
and
how
it
came
out
certain
ones
that
came
out
in
in
low
levels.
Those
are
the
cases
that
we
would
review
and
see
if
we
could
grant
parole
on
those
types
of
cases,
the
lower
level
cases.
J
Without
a
hearing
in
the
last
legislative
session,
we
also
ab236
expanded
to
allow
us
to
grant
to
review
and
grant
in
abstentia
on
ma
all
mandatory
parole
hearings
as
well,
so,
regardless
of
the
status
of
their
their
their
risk
level
or
how
they
scored
so,
for
instance,
on
our
tool.
We
that
we
have
in
our
risk
assessment.
We
run.
We
get
several
different
initial
recommendations.
J
The
first
initial
recommendation
might
be
parole,
this
individual
at
their
initial
grant
or
or
another
one
is
parole
at
their
first
or
second
hearing
another
consideration,
it
might
say,
consider
factors
meaning
consider
the
aggravating
and
mitigating
factors
of
the
case
and
the
last
recommendation
from
the
from
this
tool
or
a
risk
assessment
would
say,
deny
parole.
That
would
be
a
high
risk
case
that
that
the
evidence-based
tool
is
is
telling
us.
It
may
not
be
such
a
good
case
for
release
as
a
part
of
ab236.
J
We
can't
with
the
mandatory
case.
We
can
now
review
all
the
way
up
to
cases
that
say,
deny
parole
and
determine
whether
or
not
we
want
to
grant
them
without
a
hearing.
Generally,
that
doesn't
happen
on
those
types
of
cases,
but
that
that
was
a
type
of
a
change.
So
we
review
the
the
primarily
the
cases
that
say:
parole
and
initial
eligibility
and
or
parole
at
first
or
second
hearing
and
some
of
the
consider
factors,
but
for
the
mandatories
we
can
review
all
of
the
recommendations.
B
J
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that
question.
So
this
is.
This
is
an
excellent
question
and
this
is
something
that
I've
been
trying
to
push
like.
I
tried
to
push
last
session
and,
and
then
I
have
the
sunset
subcommittee
assisting
me,
hopefully
with
it
this
year,
but
by
statute.
J
We
have
to
our
risk
our
risk
tool
right
now,
states
that
we
have
to,
I
believe,
it's
every
other
year,
kathy
or
I'll.
Have
you
I'm
trying
to
pull
up
the
statute
right
now,
kathy,
look.
B
J
B
Yes,
it
is
it's
it's
before
january,
1st
of
the
odd
numbered
year,
so
it
is
every
other
year.
We
do
a
comprehensive
review
on
the
risk
assessment
to
make
sure
that
it
meets
all
the
requirements.
The
board
holds
a
board
meeting
and
makes
a
decision.
B
J
Have-
and
I
I
I
don't-
have
it
in
front
of
me,
however,
but
I
can
I
can
interject
here,
so
it
really
it's
not
conducive.
This
is
such
a
good
question,
because
it's
not
conducive
how
it's
written
in
statute
right
now
and
the
reason
that
it's
not
conducive
is
really
we
need,
and
we've
met
with
jfa
jim
f
austin
associates
and
spoken
with
them
in
order
to
really
gather
the
data
and
have
what
we
need.
There
needs
to
be
a
three-year
period
of
time,
for
which
the
most
recent
assessment
is
in
place.
J
So
I
believe
our
assessment
that
we
have
now
was
reassessed
last
formally
by
jfa,
I
believe
in
2018,
and
the
board
then
determined
that
it
was
that
the
the
assessment
at
that
time
and
the
changes
that
were
requested
to
be
incorporated
were
good,
and
then
we
had
to
get
them
and
actually
place
them.
J
It
wasn't
able
to
be
implemented
until
2019,
because
of
there
was
some
delay
time
in
getting
the
instrument
into
the
nevada
department
of
corrections
system,
which
they
call
notice,
and
we
work
the
parole
board.
All
works
through
this
system,
and
so
it
went
into
effect.
I
believe,
march
of
19.
Our
most
recent
validated
assessment
started
march
of
19..
J
J
Then
the
board
would
need
to
have
a
meeting
and
review
it
and
determine
whether
or
not
is
there
is
you
know
it
was
something
we
would
want
to
review
and
approve,
and
if
so,
then
we
need
time
for-
and
we
found
the
last
time
was
nine
months
to
a
year
for
the
ndoc
to
actually
get
it
implemented.
So
we
could
actually
use
that
tool.
So
really
this
every
other
year
we
validate,
we
have
board
meetings
and
validate
that.
B
Thank
you
so
much
chair.
I
just
have
a
follow-up
question.
Do
you
use
separate
assessment
tools
for
men
and
women
populations.
J
Thank
you
for
the
question,
sherrod
rico,
for
the
for
the
record.
We
do
not
use
separate
assessment
tools,
we
have
a
parole
board
risk
assessment,
the
the
ndoc
pnp
and
they
use
the
in
raz,
but
we
do
not
now
that
doesn't
mean
that
that
couldn't
change
down
the
road
at
the
point
of
the
next
assessment,
but
I
can
tell
you
it
is
not
a
separate
tool
for
fit
males
or
females.
However,
as
a
part
of
the
assessment,
females
are
scored,
one
point
less
than
being
male
1.
A
J
Thank
you,
chair,
yeager,
and,
and
that
is
correct.
In
fact,
they
are
scored
on
that
assessment.
They
are
given
a
minus
one
point
on
the
assessment
and
males
are
giving
a
zero
so
and
you're
exactly
right
with
that.
A
Thank
you.
Any
other
members
have
questions
or
chairman
dirico.
A
Okay,
I
don't
see
other
questions.
I
have
a,
I
think,
will
be
a
quick
one,
chair
dorico,
and
I
appreciate
your
offer
to
allow
us
to
come
and
watch
a
parole
hearing.
I
just
wanted
to
ask
if
we
wanted
to
to
do
that.
Where
do
you
conduct
the
parole
hearings?
What
is
the
physical
location
that
those
happen.
J
J
Carson
city
yeah,
so
so
we
we
have
an
office
in
carson
city
and-
and
I
I
do
have-
the
addresses
and
1677
old
hot
springs
road
suite
a
in
carson
city
and
also
in
at
4
000,
south
eastern
avenue,
suite
130
in
in
las
vegas,
and
once
again
we
do
conduct
hearings.
Generally,
we
work
monday
through
thursday,
four
tens,
those
ten
hour
days
for
us,
because
our
hearing
our
hearing
periods
go
late.
A
lot
of
times
eight
hour
days,
really
are
not
conducive
to
the
amount
of
hearings
that
we
do.
J
We
conduct
generally
about
50
hearings
between
offices
statewide,
sometimes
more,
and
we,
but
we
have
hearings
scheduled
all
the
time.
So
if
anybody
wants
to,
please
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
me-
and
I
can
give
you
some
information
on
when
might
be
a
good
day
to
come
by.
J
Thank
you
for
the
question,
sherry
jager,
christa
rico,
for
the
record
so
right
now,
the
answer
to
that
is
no.
We
have.
We
could
set
up
something
by
by
telephone,
but
no
we
we
assist.
We
requested
some
grant
funds
and
were
recently
approved
and
we're
trying
to
move
to
the
zoom
world
like
here.
If
we
as
well
as
you,
unfortunately
we're
a
small
agency,
we
don't
have
an
I.t
person.
We
don't
have
certain
other
things
that
we
need
in
here.
J
We
rely
upon
others
and
and
getting
ultimately
to
that
zoom
world,
which
I
want
to
get
to
my
las
vegas
office,
isn't
even
on
the
state
phone
system,
I'm
trying
to
get
that
taken
care
of,
but
one
of
the
biggest
concerns
for
me
to
getting.
There
is
the
safety
and
anonymity
of
victims
through
zoom,
so
I
want
to
get
there
and
to
move
there
and
trying
to
progress
through
there,
but
certainly
that
is
such
a
big
thing
for
me
to
be.
J
I
need
some
assistance
and
technical
support
in
order
to
set
this
up,
because
I
I
don't
want
to
jeopardize
any
victims
once
we
go
to
this
type
of
format,.
A
Well
members,
please,
if,
if
you
are
interested
reach
out,
if
you'd
like
to
to
see
a
pearl
hearing
in
action,
sounds
like
we're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
opportunities
to
do
that,
we're
pretty
busy
here,
but
occasionally
we
get
a
little
bit
of
unsupervised
release
out
of
the
building,
so
hopefully
we
can
make
that
happen.
A
So
last
call
for
questions
while
we
have
them
here,
chair
rico,
any
questions
from
the
members,
or
is
everybody
worn
out
on
zoom
today,
which
I
would
not
fault
you
for
it's
a
it's
a
new
world
we're
living
in.
So
I
don't
see
further
questions
chair
grieco
I
want
to
thank
you
miss
baker.
Thank
you
for
weighing
in
on
some
of
those
questions
as
well.
A
A
Okay
members,
so
that
brings
us
to
our
final
agenda
item
for
today,
which
is
public
comment.
So
just
as
a
way
of
a
reminder,
we
are
always
going
to
reserve
up
to
30
minutes
of
public
comment
at
the
end
of
each
meeting
and
the
way
that
will
work
is
we
have
folks
participating
by
phone
if
they'd
like
to
give
public
comment,
and
they
will
each
have
two
minutes
to
provide
that
comment
after
they
state
their
name.
A
B
Good
morning,
thank
you
chair
at
this
time
the
public
line
has
been
open
and
working.
However,
there
are
no
callers
at
this
time.
A
A
Okay,
I
don't
see
anyone
raising
their
hand.
I
will
note
we
haven't
heard
yet
from
legal
counsel,
mr
wilkinson,
but
if
you
noticed
he
is
on
these
meetings
with
us
and
I
suspect,
when
we
get
into
bill
hearings,
we're
going
to
have
some
questions
for
him
that
that
tends
to
happen
in
bill
hearings,
but
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
guys
know
that
he
is
on.
He
is
on
with
us,
as
is
miss
thornton.
A
Our
policy
analyst
and
miss
ashley
kalina,
who
I
introduced
as
well
is,
is
on
the
on
the
zoom
today
as
well.
So,
okay
members,
thank
you
again
for
your
attention
today.
I
know
it's.
It's
can
be
pretty
difficult
to
hear
these
presentations
on
zoom,
but
I
appreciate
your
attention
and
your
your
questions
in
terms
of
the
lay
of
the
land
for
the
judiciary
committee.
Let
me
grab
my
schedule
here
and
let
you
know
what
we're
looking
at
for
the
rest
of
this
week.
A
So
tomorrow,
again
we're
going
to
start
at
8
a.m,
because
we
have
presentations
from
the
gaming
control
board
and
the
cannabis
control
board,
and
I
suspect
there
may
be
a
decent
amount
of
questions,
particularly
on
the
cannabis
control
board
side.
So
that
will
be
tomorrow
and
then
good
news
for
everyone
friday.
A
We
will
not
be
having
a
judiciary
committee
meeting,
so
you
get
friday
off
to
sleep
in
a
little
bit
or
catch
up
on
some
of
that
work
that
I
know
that
we're
we're
all
sitting
on
right
now
and
then
looking
forward
to
next
week.
A
At
this
point
we
do
have
meetings
scheduled
at
least
so
far
monday
through
thursday.
All
of
those
are
going
to
be
at
eight
o'clock,
including
mondays.
Sometimes
we
try
to
move
mondays
meeting
to
nine
o'clock,
but
we
just
we
have
a
lot
to
get
through
on
monday,
we're
going
to
be
hearing
presentations
from
law
enforcement
as
well
as
the
second
judicial
district
court
and
the
h
judicial
district
court.
A
So
I
suspect
those
are
going
to
take
some
time
so,
but
in
the
future
we
may
try
to
move
mondays
to
nine
o'clock
just
to
get
us
started
off
the
week
and
then,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
we
don't
have
bills
scheduled
yet,
but
I'm
hopeful
we
may
be
able
to
hear
a
bill
or
two
next
week.
It
will
not
be
on
monday,
tuesday
would
be
the
earliest
and
of
course
I
will
give
you
and
the
public
notice
of
that.
A
When
it's
going
to
happen,
if
you're
interested
in
diving
into
bills,
I
mean
I
know
everyone
has
a
lot
going
on,
but
there
are
a
number
of
pre-filigree
bills
that
you
could
start
to
view
online
for
those
who
may
be
traveling
back
to
southern
nevada.
Sometimes
that's
a
decent
thing
to
do
on
the
airplane
back,
so
I
think
that's
all
I
have
for
today
again
just
want
to
thank
everyone
for
participating
and
being
here,
and
I
will
see
all
of
you
at
8
o'clock
tomorrow
morning.
This
meeting
is.