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A
Here
we
do
have
everybody
present,
which
means
we
have
a
quorum.
Thank
you,
everyone
for
being
timely
this
morning.
I
want
to
welcome
committee
members
and
members
of
the
public
who
may
be
watching
on
the
internet
or
on
the
youtube
channel
to
the
assembly.
Judiciary
committee
today
is
day
24
of
the
81st
session
before
we
get
started
with
the
agenda,
just
a
few
housekeeping
rules
for
those
who
might
be
new
to
the
process
if
you're
on
the
zoom
with
us.
A
If
you
could,
please
remember
to
mute
every
time
you
finish
speaking,
that
will
help
with
the
audio
feedback
and
for
our
presenters
this
morning.
If
you
could
remember
to
state
your
name
each
time
before
you
speak,
that
will
help
our
committee
secretaries
prepare
the
minutes
I'll.
Try
to
remind
you
to
do
that,
because
I
know
it's
not
really
a
natural
thing
in
conversation.
A
Just
a
couple
other
housekeeping
matters.
We
do
expect
courtesy
and
respect
and
our
interactions
with
one
another.
We
might
not
agree
on
policy,
that's
perfectly
fine,
but
we
need
to
make
sure
being
respectful
of
each
other
and
the
legislative
institution
and
process,
and
then
finally,
many
of
us
are
using
multiple
devices
and
screens
to
participate
in
the
zoom
this
morning.
A
Members,
as
you
can
see,
we
have
three
bills
on
the
agenda
today,
just
to
give
away
the
land
we're
going
to
take
them
slightly
out
of
order,
so
we're
going
to
start
with
assembly,
bill
112
and
then
we're
going
to
go
to
assembly,
bill
140
and
then
finish
up
with
assembly
bill.
I
believe
it's
125
written
all
over
my
agenda,
so
it's
hard
to
read,
but
the
the
bill
listed
in
the
middle
will
be
the
last
one
to
go
so
and
presenters.
Thank
you
for
your
patience
as
we
navigate
this
process.
A
So
at
this
time
I'm
going
to
open
up
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
112.
assembly,
bill
112
revises
provisions
relating
to
compromise
claims
of
a
minor,
and
we
have
our
own
assemblywoman
marzola.
Presenting
the
bill
today
and,
along
with
her,
is
one
of
our
former
colleagues
in
the
legislature
and
a
alum,
an
alum
of
the
assembly
judiciary
committee,
and
that
would
be
mr
justin
watkins.
E
Good
morning
chair,
can
you
hear
me?
Okay,
good
morning,
chair
and
committee
members
for
the
record,
I'm
elaine
marzola
representing
assembly
district
21
in
clark
county.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
introduce
assembly
bill
112,
which
revises
provisions
related
to
compromise
of
a
miner's
coin.
E
To
give
some
contacts,
a
compromise
of
a
minor's
claim
refers
to
a
settlement
of
disputed
claim
for
money
damages
in
a
personal
injury
case
on
behalf
of
a
minor
child
under
the
age
of
18.
in
nevada.
If
a
minor
child
is
injured
in
an
accident
caused
by
the
negligence
of
another
person,
just
like
an
adult,
they
are
allowed
to
sue
or
make
a
claim
and
seek
a
recovery
from
the
negligent
party.
E
E
The
revisions
in
assembly
bill
112,
simplifies
and
streamlines
the
compromise
compensation
process
by
allowing
the
parents
or
the
guardian
to
have
more
access
to
the
funds
of
the
small
claims
awards
or
the
benefit
and
interest
of
the
minor
child
chair
at
this
time.
I
would
like
to
turn
the
presentation
over
to
former
nevada
assemblyman
justin
watkins
to
present
the
specific
details
of
the
bill
and
answer
any
questions
about
the
technical
aspects.
A
Thank
you
so
much
assemblywoman
marzola,
mr
watkins.
It's
great
to
have
you
back
in
the
assembly
judiciary
committee.
We
wish
you
were
still
up
here
serving
with
us,
but
obviously
you've
gone
on
to
bigger
and
better
things.
So
it's
good
to
have
you
back
and
when
you're
ready.
Please
go
ahead
and
take
us
through
assembly
bill
112.
F
Thank
you,
chairman
yeager,
and
members
of
the
hardest
working
committee
in
carson
city.
It's
a
pleasure
to
be
back
with
you,
even
if
it's
on
a
computer
and
on
tv
and
thank
you
to
assembly
women
marzola
on
summarizing
the
bill.
My
purpose
here
is
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
context
of
what
this
actually
looks
like
in
practice
and
then
I'll
walk
you
through
each
of
the
sections
of
the
bill.
So
the
the
idea
behind
assembly
bill
112
is
to
make
this
a
simpler
process.
F
As
the
assemblywoman
marzolo
told
you
any
claim
that
is
brought
on
behalf
of
a
minor,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
an
injury
claim.
It
could
be
an
assault
claim,
it
could
be
a
neglect
claim.
Any
civil
claim
that
is
brought
on
behalf
of
somebody
under
the
age
of
18
by
a
parent
or
guardian,
can
only
be
settled
and
resolved
by
permission
of
the
court
and
that
permission
is
sought
through
a
petition
in
which
the
court
is
advised
of
what
the
insurance
limits
are,
how
much
the
attorney
is
going
to
bill
for
fees.
F
What
the
litigation
costs
are
any
other
payments
that
have
to
come
out
of
that
say
to
medical
providers
and
the
like,
and
then
what's
going
to
be
left
for
the
minor
and
where
they're
going
to
deposit
those
funds.
The
language
that's
currently
in
law
as
to
the
the
options
available
for
depositing
the
funds
into
a
blocked
account
are
a
little
antiquated
and
to
go
a
little
bit
backwards
in
this
bill.
F
This
will
give
the
courts
a
little
bit
more
clarity
and
breadth
for
the
types
of
investments
that
the
parents
would
like
this
money
to
go
into.
It
will
remain
blocked.
It
can
only
go
to
the
minor
at
the
age
of
18
upon
a
petition
by
the
minor
once
they
reach
the
age
of
majority,
but
this
would
allow
them
to
put
it
into
annuities
and
there
are
I'd,
say,
inconsistencies
in
the
state
as
to
what
types
of
financial
institutions
this
could
go
into
because
of
the
language
of
depository.
F
So
some
courts
have
read
that
to
mean
it
actually
has
to
be
a
savings
account
in
a
bank
and
currently,
as
I'm
sure,
every
member
here
knows,
the
interest
rates
associated
with
a
savings
account
are
not
great.
So
if
you
put
in
a
thousand
dollars
for
a
14
year
old
four
years
from
today,
it's
likely
to
be
a
thousand
and
twenty
dollars.
F
Your
the
money
is
not
growing
at
the
rate
it
should,
whereas
if
they
were
to
put
it
into
a
mutual
fund,
a
guardian
fund,
the
interest
rates
are
much
more
likely
to
be
in
the
four
or
five
percent,
rather
than
the
less
than
one
percent.
F
The
substantive
change
that
assembly
bill
112
looks
to
make
is
in
subsection
five
of
section
one
in
other
states,
and-
and
I
know
because
I
practice
in
california
in
california,
they
have
streamlined
the
process
of
when
the
miner
is
going
to
get
an
amount
of
5,
000,
000
or
less
that
they
expedite
the
process.
F
You
still
have
to
do
a
petition
to
the
court,
like
you
would
here,
but
they
make
this
the
process
much
simpler
and
and
there's
a
lot
more
leeway
given
to
the
parent
or
guardian
and
how
that
money
is
is
assigned
here
in
assembly
bill
112.
What
we
sought
to
do
is
create
a
line
of
of
2
500.
F
If
the
miner
is
going
to
get
a
settlement
and
the
amount
in
their
pocket
is
going
to
be
2500
or
less,
we
wanted
to
give
more
freedom
to
the
parents
to
decide
what
is
best
for
their
child.
For
that
amount,
we
think,
with
that
lower
dollar
value.
The
likelihood
of
abuse
by
the
parent
of
the
funds
is
much
less,
and
this
would
actually
encourage
the
parents
to
bring
the
claims
in
practice.
F
When
they
settle
a
claim
and
make
this
petition
to
the
court,
they
are
signing
on
to
yearly
accountings
with
the
court
to
to
show
exactly
where
the
funds
are,
what
the
interest
is
beared
and
they
have
to
continually
make
yearly
appearances
either
in
paper
or
in
writing
with
the
court
to
tell
them
what's
going
on.
We
feel
that,
for
these
lower
dollar
amounts
allowing
that
money
to
go
directly
for
the
to
the
parent
to
be
used
for
the
benefit
of
the
child.
It
doesn't
have
to
go
into
a
savings
account.
F
It
may
be
after
some
trauma
they
want
to
take
the
child
on
a
trip
or
a
vacation,
or
they
want
to
buy
that
that
child,
something
that
is
meaningful
to
them
to
help
in
the
recovery
or
otherwise.
We
think
the
parents
are
in
the
best
place
to
determine
how
to
spend
those
low
dollar
amounts
rather
than
the
court,
and
the
immediacy
of
the
availability
of
those
funds
is
much
more
beneficial
to
the
minor
than
say
4
6,
10
14
years
down
the
road
when
they
turn
18.,
and
so.
F
In
summary,
this
is
largely
a
cleanup
bill
to
to
give
more
options
available
to
the
minor
through
their
parent
and
guardian,
and
we
think
that
the
return
on
investment
will
be
greater
with
this
kind
of
language
and,
on
top
of
it,
we
think
that
this
will
encourage
the
parents
and
guardians
to
bring
the
claims
on
behalf
of
the
minor
rather
than
waiting
until
the
minor
turns
18
and
the
minor
bringing
the
claim
themselves.
And
I
thank
you
for
your
time
and
I'm
available
for
questions.
A
Thank
you
so
much
mr
watkins
assemblywoman
marzola
before
I
open
it
up
for
questions
from
others.
Mr
watkins.
I
think
you
might
have
mentioned
this,
but
I
think
I
just
missed
it.
You
had
mentioned
that
you
practiced
in
california,
and
I
wondered:
if
did
you
tell
us
what
the
threshold
is
there
for
these
type
of
claims
that
don't
have
to
go
through
this
more
thorough
process?
And
if,
if
you
did
I'm
sorry,
I
missed
it.
If
that
could
you
let
us
know.
F
Thank
you,
chair,
justin
watkins,
on
for
the
record.
Yes,
in
california,
the
threshold
is
five
thousand
dollars
in
there.
They
have
an
expedited
process
and
they
still
must
put
the
money
into
a
block,
trust
account
and
and
I'll
note,
for
purposes
of
clarity
for
the
language
of
ab112.
F
A
G
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you,
mr
watkins.
It's
good
to
see
you.
I
think
you
just
answered
my
question.
Actually
I
was
a
little
concerned
about
when
you
have
parents
in
a
joint
physical
custody
situation,
because
the
language
says
that
the
the
the
money
is
going
to
go
to
the
custodial
parent
and
doesn't
say
whether
it's
physical
or
legal
custody
and
again
you
can
have
a
joint
joint
situation.
G
G
So
I
would
I
was
just
a
little
concerned
about
opening
us
up
for
more
litigation
with
parents
going
to
family
court.
Saying
oh
well,
she
took
the
2500
or
he
took
the
2500
and
did
something
they
weren't
supposed
to
do,
but
I
think
you've
pretty
much
resolved
that
issue
for
me.
So
thank
you.
A
A
B
F
I
think
you
chair
through
you
to
assemblywoman
kasama
justin
watkins
for
the
record.
I
think
that
we
were
trying
to
make
an
adjustment
for
different
dollars
in
different
states
and
cost
of
living
and
what
I
thought
was
appropriate
to
be
frank
with
you
in
my
practice.
I
think
that
at
five
thousand
dollars
I
don't
ever
see
parents
avoid
making
that
claim
due
to
the
the
hardship
of
reporting
to
the
court.
But
when
you
start
getting
down
to
2500
and
under
I
I
see
parents
delay
or
not
actually
pursue
the
claim.
F
So
it's
just
it's
just
a
number
that
I'm
in
practice.
I
thought
sort
of
hit
the
mark.
B
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
justin
watkins
for
presenting
you
said
on
one
hand
the
parents
don't
bring
the
claims,
and
it
also
said
something
that
made
me
think
that
the
child
upon
becoming
an
adult
could
bring
the
claim,
but
are
you
worried
about
justice?
Delay
can
be
justice
denied
is,
is
that
part
of
it.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Through
you
to
the
assemblyman
you
you
hit
it
exactly
right.
Yes,
a
minor
has
the
permission,
or
has
the
right
to
bring
a
claim
for
two
years,
we'll
assume
it's
an
injury
claim.
Statute
limitations
is
two
years.
F
They
have
the
right
to
bring
that
claim
for
within
two
years
of
when
they
turn
the
age
of
majority,
so
20
years
old,
on
an
injury
claim,
but
if,
if
the
child's
six
years
old-
and
we
wait
14
years
before,
they
bring
the
claim
the
likelihood
of
a
recovery
to
the
benefit
of
the
now
minor
child.
Turning
majority
in
a
fair
value,
I
think,
is
next
to
zero.
I've
been
practicing
in
this
area
for
17
years,
and
I
haven't
seen
a
claim
brought
like
that.
That
was
to
the
benefit
for
being
delayed.
A
Okay,
I
don't
see
any
additional
questions,
so
I
want
to
thank
the
two
of
you
for
presenting
we'll
give
you
a
chance
to
wrap
up
after
we
see
if
there's
any
testimony
on
the
bill
at
this
time,
I'm
going
to
open
it
up
for
testimony
in
support
of
assembly
bill
112.,
don't
believe
we
have
anybody
on
the
zoom
in
support.
But
if
I'm
wrong
about
that,
if
you
could
turn
your
camera
on
and
simply
wave,
I
don't
see
that
happening
so
bps.
H
A
H
A
H
A
Thank
you
bps.
I
will
close
neutral
testimony.
I
noticed
assemblyman
wheeler
seemed
to
have
his
hand
up.
Do
you
have
a
question
or
comment
assemblyman.
I
Just
a
quick
comment,
mr
chairman,
I
once
wanted
to
welcome
assemblyman
watkins.
B
Back
to
his
old
committee
and
tell
him
I
kind
of
miss
our
cigars
and
arguments
so
good
to
see
you.
A
Back,
thank
you
assemblyman
wheeler,
okay,
so
we
didn't
have
any
testimony,
but
assemblywoman
marzola,
mr
watkins
want
to
give
either
of
you
a
chance
to
provide
any
concluding
remarks
on
assembly
bill
112.
If
you'd
like
to.
A
E
I
just
want
to
thank
you,
chair
and
committee
members
for
the
opportunity
for
allowing
me
both
myself
and
justin,
to
introduce
assembly
build
112.
if
anyone
does
have
additional
questions
or
comments,
please
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
me
I'll
be
more
than
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
anyone
has
and
thank
you
again.
F
And
thank
you
chair
and
members
of
the
committee.
It
was
a
it
was
a
real
thrill
to
be
back
with
you
guys
and
thank
you
for
the
the
kind
words
assemblyman
wheeler.
I
appreciate
it.
I
miss
I
miss
the
same
things
and
best
of
luck
to
all
of
you
for
the
remaining
of
the
session.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
both
so
much
for
mr
watkins
in
particular,
for
joining
us
at
8.
Am
this
morning.
We
appreciate
it
with
that
being
said,
I'm
going
to
close
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
112.
committee.
We
got
through
that
one
pretty
quickly,
I'm
not
sure
what
the
next
two
are
going
to
be
like,
but
we'll
see
so
at
this
time.
I'll
go
to
our
second
bill
on
the
agenda.
C
Thank
you
for
the
record.
This
is
rochelle
nguyen.
I
represent
assembly
district
10
and
like
many
of
the
best
bills,
they
come
directly
from
our
constituents.
They
arise
organically
from
conversations
that
we're
having
with
our
neighbors
and,
in
this
case
assembly
bill.
140
comes
after
a
conversation
I
had
with
my
neighbor
allison
brazier
at
a
block
party
about
issues
she
was
having
in
our
state
helping
her
clients
who
are
injured
in
accidents
where
the
person
that
had
caused
the
injury
or
the
accident
was
a
foreign
national
or
someone
that
lived
outside
of
the
united
states.
C
With
that,
I
will
turn
this
over
to
justin.
Randall
he's
been
working
with
me
to
come
up
with
language
that
captures
this.
That
makes
us
in
line
with
a
lot
of
other
states
that
already
do
this,
and
this
is
his
first
time
testifying
before
the
legislature.
So
please
pepper
him
with
as
many
questions
as
you
can,
and
he
I
know,
he's
very
excited
because
he
is
a
constituent
of
our
chair
and
so
he's
excited
to
present.
So
with
that,
I'm
going
to
turn
this
over
to
mr
randall.
J
Thank
you,
chair
yeager,
and
vice
chair
nguyen
much
like
assembly
bill
112.
This
is
a
cleanup
measure
for
essentially
what's
a
loophole
in
our
service
of
process
that
we
have
currently,
if,
in
the
event
that
we
have
someone
who
comes
from
another
country
and
visits
nevada,
they
rent
a
car
for
whatever
reason,
they're
required
to
purchase
the
liability
insurance
that
the
rental
car
agency
provides
for
any
uninsured
people
that
are
driving
their
cars
upon
purchasing
that
rental
car
insurance.
J
What
they
then
do
is
drive
on
the
roads
in
the
event
that
they
get
in
an
accident
that
insurance
applies
and
covers
them
in
the
event
for
any
damages.
They've
caused.
What
happens
later
is
where
it
gets
complicated.
So,
typically
after
they
cause
an
accident,
they
turn
and
leave
the
state
leave
the
country
and
go
back
to
wherever
they
are
from.
J
J
So
if
the
person
who
caused
the
damages
or
injuries
was
a
nevada
resident
or
a
united
states
resident,
we
can
either
serve
them
personally
within
the
united
states
or
serve
them
through
alternative
service
means.
What
I
mean
by
an
alternative
service
mean
is
in
the
state
of
nevada.
We
have
several
options.
First,
we
could
serve
them
by
publication
if
we're
not
able
to
physically
hand
them
a
copy
of
the
lawsuit,
we
can
serve
them
through
the
dmv,
which
essentially
authorizes
the
dmv
to
accept
service
on
their
behalf.
J
If
they're
driving
on
the
roads
within
the
state
of
nevada,
where
it
gets
complicated
again
is
if
they
live
outside
of
the
country,
and
in
that
instance,
we
really
only
have
two
options.
First,
we
can
either
serve
through
the
hague
convention,
which
is
extremely
complicated,
cumbersome
and
costly
and
lengthy,
and
that's
only
if
the
person
who
caused
the
damage
is
a
resident
or
citizen
of
a
country.
That's
a
signatory
to
the
hague
convention.
J
If
they're
a
resident
of
a
country,
that's
not
a
signatory
to
the
hate
convention,
it
gets
even
more
complicated
in
that
we
don't
really
have
a
good
way
to
serve
them.
So,
ultimately,
often
a
plaintiff
in
that
circumstance
has
very
little
recourse
to
get
their
damages
compensated
by
the
person
that
harm
them.
J
Now
this
gets
even
more
complicated
in
the
event
that
we
are
required
under
hague
service
to
have
a
valid
address
for
the
person,
and
I
can
tell
you
nine
times
out
of
ten.
If
people
are
exchanging
information
or
if
there's
a
police
officer
that
responds
to
the
scene,
we
rarely
have
a
valid
address.
Often
we'll
get
part
of
an
address.
We
may
get
a
country,
we
may
get
a
street,
but
we
might
not
have
a
city.
I
can
tell
you.
J
I
have
a
case
right
now,
where
the
address
that
the
police
officer
wrote
down
was
a
city
in
france,
for
example,
paris,
and
then
the
country
was
belgium.
Well,
those
can't
be
the
same
and
we
don't
know
where
they
live,
so
we
have
to
serve
in
both
places
or
attempt
service
in
both
places,
and
this
gets
very
costly
very
quickly,
so
this
can
cost
on
the
low
end
between
one
and
three
thousand
dollars,
if
not
more
and
can
take
sometimes
a
year
or
two
just
to
get
through
that
very
basic
procedural
step
of
serving
process.
J
Now,
like
I
said,
we
have
the
dmv
service
in
the
event
that
the
person
is
a
united
states,
citizen
or
nevada
resident.
We
don't
have
any
option
like
that
for
a
foreign
resident
and
that's
essentially
what
this
bill
does.
So
what
this
bill
does
is
it
allows
the
rental
car
agent
or
requires
the
rental
car
agency
to
accept
service
on
behalf
of
any
foreign
insurer
that
they
have
written
a
policy
for
and
allowed
to
drive
their
vehicle
on
the
roads
in
nevada?
J
Basically,
what
happens
is
they
will
be?
The
the
plaintiff
will
serve
the
rental
car
resident
agent
with
the
process
and
then
they're
required
within
30
days
to
forward
that
to
their
insured
and
they're
in
the
best
position
to
do
this,
because
when
they
rent
the
car
they're
collecting
the
information
they're
collecting
the
driver's
license
number
they're
collecting
the
contact
information.
J
J
This
law
is
actually
very,
very
similar
to
a
law
that's
been
enacted
in
california
and
a
law
that's
been
enacted
in
florida.
So
these
are
our
long-standing
laws
that
have
been
in
each
of
these
states
and
we've
reached
out
to
our
cohorts
in
other
states.
Our
colleagues
that
have
said
there's
no
issues
with
this
law.
The
insurance
companies
know
how
to
deal
with
it.
The
plaintiff
attorneys
know
how
to
deal
with
it.
A
Thank
you
so
much
vice
chairwin,
mr
randall.
I've
often
said
that
for
the
lawyers
on
the
committee
and
for
those
watching,
we
should
get
continuing
legal
education
credits
for
this
committee,
and
I
give
you
points,
mr
randall,
for
being
the
first
one
to
mention
the
hague
convention,
which
I
think
is
a
first
in
my
three
sessions
on
the
assembly
judiciary
committee.
So
well
done.
On
that
front,
I
suspect
I
have
questions
from
others.
I
have
one
quick
question.
A
While
it's
on
my
mind,
you
answered
most
of
what
I
was
wondering
about,
which
was
the
cost
and
the
time
that
it
takes
to
serve
someone
overseas
through
the
hay
convention.
But
what
I'm
curious
about
is
normally
when
we
file
a
lawsuit,
we
have
120
days
to
serve
the
other
party
and
it
sounds
like
when
you
have
to
go
through
this
process.
It
can
take
years.
So
I
just
wondered
in
that
circumstance.
J
So,
there's
nothing
in
the
statute.
That
extends
the
time
we
are
required
to
go
back
to
the
court
every
120
days,
which,
quite
frankly,
is
a
waste
of
judicial
resources.
We
have
judges
deciding
this
motion
the
same
motion
over
and
over
and
over
again,
just
because
of
the
extended
time
it
takes
to
serve
the
defendant
through
the
hague
convention.
A
Great
thank
you,
and
that
was
mr
randall
for
the
record.
I
think
her
secretary
probably
knows
that,
because
you're,
the
only
one
speaking
but
I'll,
make
that
clear,
just
in
case
committee
members
any
other
questions
that
you
have
for
vice
chairwin
or
mr
randall,
with
a
reminder
that
it's
his
first
time
here
in
the
judiciary
committee.
So
if
you're
not
sure
whether
he
should
ask
that
question,
you
definitely
should
ask
that
question
anyone
out
there.
A
G
I
just
couldn't
let
him
go
without
a
question.
I
was
just
curious
on
how
often
we
see
this
is
this
a
problem
that
is
occurring
often,
or
is
this
a
rare
case,
but
but
obviously
just
something
that
needs
to
be
addressed.
J
Thank
you
for
your
question
assembly,
one
billboard
axelrod.
This
is
justin
brandel
for
the
record.
I
will
tell
you:
I
operate,
I'm
a
partner
in
a
small
four-person
law
firm,
and
I
think
me
alone
in
my
law.
Firm-
have
about
five
to
seven
cases
right
now
in
the
past
year,
where
this
has
happened.
So
this
is
not
a
small
issue.
This
is
something
that
happens
on
a
regular
frequency
to
an
injured
party
in
the
state
of.
A
H
K
You
chair,
thank
you,
mr
randall,
just
a
follow-up
question
to
send
the
woman.
L
L
Before
cases
going
forward
would
be
my
question.
J
M
Day
when
we
spoke
just
you
mentioned
that
the
bill
is
similar
to
bill
bills
and
other
high
tourism
states.
How
does
our
bill
different
from
theirs?
Thank.
J
C
A
That's
okay,
mr
randall.
We
often
forget
to
do
that.
So
so.
Thank
you.
Anyone
else
with
questions
before
we
open
up
for
testimony,
I
see
assemblywoman
kasama.
Please
go
ahead.
B
Sorry,
a
little
trouble
today
with
my
machine
so
just
curious
in
in
essence,
and
the
insurance
company
pays
the
claim
and
then
it's
up
to
them.
If
they
want
to
pursue
the
person
overseas
or
do
they
I'm
just
curious,
do
they
actually
go
that
far
or
do
they
just
pay
the
claim
and
and
settle
it.
J
So
it's
it
it's
not
exactly
as
that.
Actually,
when
we
step
back,
this
is
justin
ramble
for
the
record.
It's
not
exactly
how
that
works.
So
what
happens
is
when
they
purchase
the
insurance
policy
through
the
rental
car
agency,
the
rental
car
agency
actually
indemnifies
and
defends
the
lawsuit.
So
once
we
serve
the
person,
so
we
serve
through
currently
the
hague
or,
however,
it's
allowed
in
the
country
that
they
live.
B
J
Thank
you.
This
is
justin
randle
for
the
record.
Typically,
what
will
happen
is
they
will
assign
an
outside
attorney?
So
it's
not
necessarily
an
attorney
that
works
specifically
for
the
insurance
company,
but
they
will
hire
and
pay
for
an
attorney
to
represent
the
defendant
on
this
type
of
policy
where
it's
a
one-time
use.
You
know
a
rental
car
policy
there's
typically
not
a
deductible
you're,
just
paying
a
daily
rate
or
an
hourly
rate.
However,
you
rent
the
car
for
the
coverage
of
that
time
frame.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Assemblywoman
and
now
you'll
have
some
good
questions
to
ask
next
time
you
rent
a
vehicle
and
they
want
you
to
sign
that
waiver.
Saying
you're
declining
the
coverage
you'll
be
able
to
ask
them
how
much
the
daily
or
or
monthly
rate
is,
and
maybe
you
can
even
ask
about
the
hague
convention
and
see
if
they
know
what
you're
talking
about.
I
assume
they
will
not.
I
Next,
thank
you
chairman.
Thank
you,
mr
randall.
N
So
I
just
want
to
clarify
that.
I
J
B
J
This
is
justin
randle
for
the
record
and,
yes,
that's
correct.
Essentially
the
the
lessor,
the
rental
car
agency,
is
required
to
accept
service
on
behalf
of
their
insured,
the
foreign
driver,
and
then
they
just
forward
it
to
the
foreign
driver
within
30
days
and
the
process
proceeds
normally
from
there.
Okay.
A
Additional
questions
for
mr
randall
or
vice
chairwin,
okay,
I
don't
see
additional
questions
I
did
want
to
let
the
committee
know
that
I
was
fact
checked
that
we
have
mentioned
the
hague
convention
in
the
past
few
sessions
in
the
context
of
child
abduction
and
child
custody
cases
overseas.
So
I
was
wrong,
but
I
know
for
many
of
us.
We
don't
remember
that,
so
I
still
am
impressed
by
the
reference.
A
So
at
this
time
I
want
to
thank
the
two
of
you
for
presenting
we'll
give
you
a
chance
to
do
some
wrap
up
testimony
at
the
end
after
we
take
testimony
on
the
bill.
For
now,
I'm
going
to
go
to
testimony
in
support
of
assembly
bill
140.,
don't
believe
we
have
anyone
on
the
zoom
with
us
in
support
bps.
Could
we
check
the
phone
lines
to
see
if
there's
somebody
there
who'd
like
to
testify
and
support.
H
H
O
Tanya
brown
b,
r,
w
n
private
citizen,
I'm
in
support
of
this
bill
and
I'll,
tell
you
why.
Some
years
ago
I
had,
I
had
some
friends
that
were
home
sleeping
in
their
beds
when
a
vehicle
drove
through
their
bedroom
wall.
It
was
these
people
were
from
out
of
the
country.
O
They
caused
a
lot
of
damage
to
the
house,
the
woman
sustained
major
injuries.
They
were
unsuccessful
in
getting
those
individuals
to
be
sued.
They
had
to
go
through
their
homeowners
insurance
to
recoup
any
monies
from
the
damage
that
had
been
done.
So
I
would
be
very
much
in
favor
of
this
bill.
Thank
you.
A
A
H
H
A
H
H
A
Thank
you
bps.
I
will
close
neutral
testimony.
One
last
call
before
we
go
to
concluding
remarks
from
members
with
any
questions
or
comments
on
ab140
that
you've
thought
of
in
the
last
few
minutes.
A
Okay,
I
don't
see
anything
so
vice
chairwin,
mr
randall,
give
you
a
chance
to
make
concluding
remarks,
and
just
so
it's
a
little
easier
on
the
zoom.
Why
don't
we
start
with
vice
chairwin
and
then
we'll
go
to
mr
randall.
J
I
just
wanted
to
thank
the
members
of
the
committee
for
allowing
us
to
speak
here
today,
and
I
would
just
like
to
highlight
that
miss
brown's
comments
are
exactly
the
type
of
scenario
we're
trying
to
prevent
here.
This
happens
much
more
than
I
think
people
realize
within
the
state
of
nevada,
given
our
significant
numbers
of
tourism
in
a
normal
time,
and
that
situation
is
exactly
what
happens
and
what
we'd
like
to
prevent
through
the
passage
of
this
bill.
So
thank
you
again
and
if
you
have
any
questions,
please
let
me
know.
A
Thank
you
so
much
vice
chairwin,
mr
randall,
mr
randall.
I
will
tell
you
that
normally,
if
it's
your
first
bill,
we
we
require
a
song
and
dance
of
some
sort
in
concluding
remarks,
but
we're
going
to
let
you
off
the
hook
today
and
you
did
a
great
job,
presenting
your
first
bill
in
the
committee.
So
thank
you
for
being
here
and
please
enjoy
the
rest
of
your
day.
Thank
you.
A
A
So
I'll
now
open
up
the
hearing
on
assembly,
bill
125
assembly,
bill
125,
revises
provisions
relating
to
credits
against
sentences
of
offenders,
and
we
have
one
of
our
assembly
colleagues
assemblywoman
duran
with
us
here
on
the
zoom
and
I
believe
she
is
joined
by
mr
pirro
and
miss
burchie
and
they
are
going
to
collectively
present
assembly
bill
125
to
us
and
then
we'll
have
a
chance
to
ask
questions,
and
I
think
we'll
probably
have
quite
a
bit
of
testimony
on
this
bill
as
well.
So
welcome
to
the
committee
for
the
first
time
in
this
session.
A
K
Good
morning
and
thank
you
chair
yeager
and
members
of
the
committee-
yes,
this
is
my
first
time
a
little
nervous,
but
anyway
for
the
record,
I
am
b
duran
representing
assembly
district
11.
I
am
here
today
to
present
for
your
consideration,
ab125,
which
revises
provisions
relating
to
credits
against,
and
sentences
of
offenders,
commonly
referred
to
as
good
time
credits.
K
K
K
K
K
Moreover,
I've
listened
to
the
concerns
of
the
opposition,
so
I
am
proposing
a
conceptual
amendment
which
takes
into
account
some
of
the
opposition's
concerns.
The
consensual
amendment
would
preclude
habitual
offenders
or
people
who
commit
residential
burglary
from
receiving
good
time
credits
off
their
minimum
sentence.
K
A
Thank
you
so
much
assemblywoman
duran,
you
did
a
great
job,
there's
no
reason
to
be
nervous
before
we
get
to
miss
burchie
misfire.
I
just
wanted
to
confirm
with
you.
I
didn't
see
an
exhibit
on
nellis,
but
I
think
you're.
What
you're
proposing
today
is
a
conceptual
amendment
that
would,
I
just
want
to
confirm
for
the
record
so
that
this
bill
would
not
apply
to
somebody
who
is
has
been
deemed
a
habitual
criminal
or
somebody
who
is
serving
a
sentence
for
a
residential
burglary.
Is
that
correct.
K
Correct
and
mr
burrow
could
follow
up
on
those.
I
think
we
we
we
made
a
list
of
the
ones
that
are
going
to
not
be
included
in
this
film.
I
believe
mr
apparel
can
get
that
for
you
all
right.
A
Thank
you
so
much
assemblywoman,
mr
pirro,
are
you
up.
Next
looks
like
it,
so
please
go
ahead.
Thank.
M
You,
mr
chairman,
and
members
of
the
committee
john
pearl
from
the
clark
county
public
defender's
office.
Well,
this
is
a
bill
of
a
few
red
ink
marks,
basically
one
it
has
a
big
impact,
and
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
it
does.
Well,
many
individuals
are
behind
bars
for
only
a
short
period
of
time.
The
backbone
of
mass
incarceration
is
people
serving
very
lengthy
sentences,
often
decades
long
and
far
longer
than
they
would
serve
for
comparable
crimes
elsewhere
in
the
world.
M
That
being
said,
I
want
to
explain
first
how
good
time
credits
actually
work
in
nevada
people
are
sentenced
to
a
range,
as
opposed
to
a
fixed
number.
For
example,
instead
of
just
saying
a
person
is
sentenced
to
10
years
in
prison,
they
could
be
sentence
of
a
range
from
one
to
ten
years.
So
if
a
judge
sentenced
somebody
to
four
to
ten
years
in
prison
on
a
category
b,
felony
the
minimum
part
of
the
sentence,
the
start
of
it
is
four
years
the
maximum
part.
The
back
end
is
10
years.
M
They
would
only
get
credit
on
the
back
end
of
the
sentence
for
good
behavior,
not
on
the
good
front
end
any
good
behavior
on
the
front
end.
They
would
still
do
day
for
day
on
that
four
years.
So
I
want
to
explain
that
they
would
do
365
days
a
year
for
four
years,
that's
1
460
days
or
for
any
fans
of
the
broadway
musical
rent.
M
That's
525
600
minutes
by
four
years,
which
makes
two
million
minutes
away
from
children
in
need
of
a
parent
away
from
aging,
grandparents
and
parents,
or
more
recently,
525
600
minutes
spent
in
the
covid
incubator,
as
nevada's
prisons
have
become
over
this
pandemic.
M
As
assemblywoman
duran
said,
I
want
to
be
clear
about
a
few
things.
You
only
get
good
time
credits
for
good
behavior,
educational
programming
or
workforce
programming
or
attending
a
treatment
program,
in
other
words,
trying
hard
to
become
a
better
person
upon
your
release
and
rehabilitate
yourself,
so
that
when
you
are
released,
you
can
come
back
into
society
and
do
things
better.
M
M
I
Thank
you,
kendra
birchie,
with
washoe
county
public
defender's
office.
What
I
want
to
make
clear
about
this
bill
is
that
it
will
not
apply
to
individuals
who
are
who
have
committed
a
violent
crime
against
another
person,
a
sexual
offense
and
with
the
conceptual
amendment
it
will
also
not
apply
to
those
who
have
been
deemed
to
be
a
habitual
criminal
or
those
who
enter
another's
home
to
commit
a
crime
and
felony
duis
section.
One
subsection.
I
Eight
of
this
bill
specifies
the
offenses,
where
an
individual
is
not
eligible
to
receive
the
deduction
in
their
minimum
sentence
for
good
time
credit
due
to
their
conviction.
Subsection
8
d
removes
the
category
b
felony
from
this
preclusion.
If
it
is
a
crime
that
is
not
a
crime
of
violence,
sexual
offense
or
felony
dui,
those
charges
are
already
statutorily,
determined,
ineligible
from
receiving
good
time
credit.
The
conceptual
amendment
adds
habitual
offenders
and
people
who
commit
residential
burglaries
from
that
as
well.
I
I
Now
that
woman,
who
is
already
in
custody
on
the
category
b
charge,
would
serve
a
longer
sentence,
even
if
she
were
working
harder
in
doing
all
the
programming
than
someone
who
is
currently
convicted
and
sentenced
to
prison
on
that
same
exact
charge.
So,
even
though
that
first
person's
working
harder
she'd
end
up
serving
longer,
we
can
correct
this
inequity
through
assemblywoman
durant's
bill.
An
even
bigger
distinction
is
with
individuals
sentenced
to
drug-related
offenses.
I
I
I
I
M
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
john
pirro,
for
the
record.
The
last
thing
that
I
wanted
to
talk
about
before
we
close
it
out
for
questions
is
marcy's
law,
the
benefit
of
being
here
for
the
three
sessions.
Now,
as
I
was
here
when
marcy's
law
passed,
and
you
may
hear
that
some
category
b,
felonies
target
elderly
people
or
victimize
vulnerable
victims,
we
have
enhancements
for
those.
M
Sometimes
marsy's
law
is
used
as
both
a
sword
and
a
shield,
depending
on
what's
more
convenient
at
the
time.
But
what
marcy's
law
really
is
is
a
recognition
that
a
victim
of
a
crime
should
be
allowed
to
participate
in
the
process
and
be
given
notice
of
all
the
important
parts
of
the
process.
In
this
light,
a
victim
has
already
had
the
chance
to
say
their
piece
at
sentencing
if
they
were
informed
by
the
d.a
to
be
present
there
and
they're
also
informed
of
parole
board
hearings.
M
So
nothing
this
bill
does
is
going
to
automatically
release
people
from
prison.
They
still
have
to
go
before
the
parole
board
and
be
evaluated
by
the
parole
board
for
their
good
behavior
before
they
would
even
be
eligible
for
release
and
nevada
pays
a
lot
of
money
for
what's
called
the
vine
system
and
that
informs
victims
of
any
upcoming
procedures
or
processes
that
will
be
taking
place
in
an
incarcerated
person's
case.
M
So
the
victim
will
still
have
a
chance
to
say
their
piece
and
be
informed,
so
there's
nothing
this
bill
does
that
is
offensive
or
to
marsy's
law
in
our
constitution.
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
clear.
All
this
bill
does
is
allow
people
who
are
trying
to
better
themselves
be
rewarded
for
trying
to
change,
be
better
and
do
better.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
A
Thank
you,
mr
pirro.
Before
we
open
it
up
for
questions,
I
just
wanted
to
to
say
a
couple
of
things.
One
I
wanted
to
ask
either
mr
pirro
miss
burchie
or
mr
ran
after
the
hearing
today.
Could
you
submit
those
conceptual
amendments
in
writing
so
that
we
can
make
sure
they're
uploaded
to
the
website
so
that
we
have
those?
A
Great
and
then
two
other
points
of
clarification
I
wanted
to
make
just
because
we
have
some
new
members
on
the
committee
to
this
session
and
some
new
folks
to
the
legislature.
Mr
apparel
referenced
marcy's
law.
Barsey's
law
is
the
name
for
essentially
rights
that
victims
have
in
the
criminal
justice
system.
So
there
was
a
resolution
that
went
through
the
legislature
in
the
2015
session
and
the
2017
session,
and
then
the
voters
approved
those
constitutional
amendments
at
the
2018
ballot.
A
So
our
constitution
includes
some
rights
that
victims
have
in
the
criminal
justice
system
and
that
that
whole
set
of
rights
is
sometimes
called
marsy's
law,
so
you'll
hear
those
interchangeably
and
really
that
just
means
the
constitutional
rights
that
the
victims
have
and
then.
Finally,
mr
pirro
mentioned
the
vine
system,
and
so
that
is
an
electronic,
automated
system
that
victims
of
crime
can
sign
up
to
receive
notification,
and
it
is
that
acronym
stands
for
victim
information
and
notification
every
day.
A
A
C
M
Pure
for
the
record
that
is
correct,
madam
peice,
chair.
C
The
other
question
I
have
has
to
do
with
the
passage
of
assembly
bill
236
during
the
2019
legislative
session.
Can
you
kind
of
give
some
examples
in
the
area
of
drug
trafficking
and
drug
charges
on
how
they
differ
today?
As
you
know,
prior
to
the
passage
of
that
bill,
I
know
that
during
one
of
our
presentations
by
director
daniels,
he
talked
about
the
his
willingness
and
to
try
to
figure
out
ways
to
get
rid
of,
or
you
know,
safely
depopulate
some
of
our
women's
prisons
because
of
these
non-violent
drug
offenses.
M
I
Kendricky
for
their
record.
So
specifically,
if
someone
had,
let's
say
four
grams
of
methamphetamine
before
ab236,
that
was
considered
trafficking
amount.
So
even
if
it's
just
the
possession
for
personal
use,
it
was
a
trafficking
amount
which
was
a
mandatory
prison
sentence
of
one
to
six
years
with
ab236.
I
Again,
we
took
a
look
at
that
and
realized
that
we
needed
to
do
something
to
change,
to
work
on
the
overcrowding
in
the
prison
population
as
well
as
provide
those
individuals
with
the
treatment
they
need,
because,
again
it's
a
non-violent
offense
for
a
drug
charge,
and
so
the
what
we
did
was
that's
now,
a
category
e
felony
where
there
it
is
deemed
to
be
diversion
eligible
and
mandatory
diversion
to
provide
them
with
the
treatment
necessary
to
be
successful.
C
I
Burchie
for
the
record-
yes
vice
chair
to
when
it
was
a
category
b
felony,
and
so
they
would
receive
no
good
time
credit
off
of
that
minimum
sentence.
Thank.
A
G
My
question
is
about
in
section
one
a
lot
of
subjective
words
that
are
used,
for
instance,
section
one
sub
one
there's
reference
made
to
no
serious
infraction
of
the
regulations
and
in
sub
two
there's
diligence
in
labor
and
study
merits
or
referring
to
an
offender
whose
diligence
in
labor
and
study
merits
in
sub
four
diligent
and
responsible
manner
is
used.
Sub
five
exceptional
meritorious
service,
then
in
sub
six
there's
reference
to
the
board
adopting
regulations.
G
So
are
those
regulations
determining
what
those
subjective
terms
mean?
I
know
there's
some
reference
to
the
also
to
the
to
the
director
making
some
some
of
the
determinations,
but
it
just
seems
it's
very
subjective
and
if
you
can
just
address
how
that
determination
is
made
or
or
if
it's
just
yeah,
if
the
director
just
gets
to
make
this
a
subjective
determination
for
each
instance.
M
John
piero
for
the
record,
assemblywoman
cohen,
that
that's
a
great
question
and
and
frankly,
director
daniels
will
probably
be
the
best
person
to
answer.
But,
as
I
understand
it,
it's
up
to
the
wardens
of
whatever
prison
that
that
are
making
those
decisions
and
the
associate
wardens.
So
it
is
a
very
subjective
standard.
G
Currently,
okay,
thank
you!
So
if
you,
if
you're
a
a
if
you're
in
prison
and
you
just
get
on
the
wrong
side
of
the
warden
you're
you're,
just
there's
really
no
place
to
go
from
there.
I
And
kendra
burchie
for
the
record
again,
I
think
hopefully,
dr
daniels,
I
wish
we
were
all
in
the
room
because
then
he
could
be
able
to
provide
his
information
for
this.
But
I
did
speak
with
individuals
from
the
prison
yesterday.
I
Who
did
inform
me
that
what
happens
is
when
someone
does
commit
an
infraction
and
they're,
considering
removing
the
good
time
credit
they'll
have
a
disciplinary
hearing
where
I
use
hearing
lightly,
because
it's
not
in
front
of
the
judge
where
they'll
then
be
able
to
address
whether
or
not
those
good
time
credits
should
be
removed.
A
We'll
have
to
wait
until
we
get
to
his
testimony.
If
he's
on
the
phone,
we
don't
have
him
on
the
zoom,
but
if
he's
there
we'll
ask
him
at
that
time
if
he
can
answer
them.
A
Okay,
let's
go
next
to
assemblywoman
bilbray
axelrod.
G
Thank
you
chair,
and
I
just
had
a
question
for
miss
mercy.
You
had
said
something
about,
and
I
just
kind
of
wanted,
a
clarification
because
I
am
new
to
the
committee.
You
said
something
about
if
someone
steals
a
3,
500
car
or
drives
a
3
500
car
that
they
should
have
known
was
stolen
is
a
category
b
film,
but
then
after
last
session,
I
think
you
said
now:
it's
not.
Could
you
just
explain
to
me
so
yeah?
I
Kendrick
for
the
record,
absolutely
so,
there's
a
current
charge
and
statute
for
possession
of
a
stolen
motor
vehicle.
So
you
don't
have
to
be
the
person
who
actually
stole
the
vehicle,
but
you
are,
if
you
are
in
possession
of
that
vehicle
like
if
you
are
driving
the
vehicle
and
before
it
be
236
depending
on
the
amount
that
the
car
was
worth,
it
could
be
a
a
category
b
felony.
I
G
I
A
Let's
go
next.
I
think
assemblywoman
hanson
indicated
that
her
question
was
answered
so
we'll
go
next
to
assemblyman
o'neill.
G
B
M
If
I
could
john
pirro
for
the
record
assemblyman
o'neil,
so
we
listened
to
some
of
the
concerns
that
the
district
attorneys
have
had
and
we're
trying
to
address
those
concerns
through
the
conceptual
amendment
and
still
with
assembly,
woman
duran's
permission
open
to
working
to
make
this
a
a
bill
that
works
for
everybody.
A
Okay,
I
don't
see
additional
questions
at
this
time.
Assemblywoman
duran,
mr
pirro,
ms
burchie,
thank
you
for
presenting
we'll
give
you
a
chance
to
do
some
wrap
up
after
we
take
testimony,
and
so
at
this
time
I'm
going
to
go
to
testimony
and
I'll.
Let
members
know
I
do
have
a
number
of
folks
who
are
signed
up
to
testify
most
in
support,
but
I
think
we
have
some
in
opposition
to
perhaps
some
in
neutral.
A
I
think
we
have
enough
time
to
get
through
all
that
testimony,
so
we
will
do
our
best,
but
as
a
reminder
to
those
who
will
be
writing
testimony
on
the
phone.
Ask
you
to
please
limit
your
comments
to
two
minutes,
so
we
can
make
sure
we
get
through
everybody
who'd
like
to
speak
on
the
bill.
So
at
this
time
I'll
open
up
testimony
in
support.
A
H
H
H
O
You
good
morning,
mr
chairman,
this
is
holly
welborn
policy
director
for
the
aclu
nevada.
Thank
you
very
much
to
assemblywoman
duran
for
bringing
this
forward.
I
won't
say
too
much
my
colleague
that
the
public
defender's
offices
did
an
exemplary
job
of
really
laying
out
the
reasons
why
the
aclu
supports
this.
O
But
I
want
to
talk
a
little
about
the
work
that
I
have
done
with
many
members
of
this
body
with
my
colleagues
at
the
pd's
office
on
category
b,
felonies
examining
category
b's
and
their
disproportionality
and
how
that
disproportionality
drives
up
our
prison
population
is
not
a
new
concept
in
the
state.
We've
been
talking
about
it
for
decades.
O
During
the
2015-2016
interim,
my
first
interim
with
the
aclu
of
nevada,
I
was
appointed
to
the
advisory
commission
on
the
administration
of
justice,
and
at
that
time
we
examined
over
200
category
b
felonies
and
from
that
list
recommended
approximately
13
to
25
different
crimes
for
re-categorization
to
a
class
c,
noting
that
the
major
difference
between
a
cnf
b
was
eligible
eligibility
for
sentencing
credits,
but
that
proposal
unfortunately
was
rejected.
O
Thankfully
av-236
moved
us
in
the
direction
we
needed
to
go.
We
developed
a
permanent
sentencing
commission
and
created
the
department
of
sentencing
policy
to
evaluate
and
overhaul
the
sentencing
structure
as
a
whole.
I
see
this
bill
very
much
as
a
complement
to
those
efforts
to
adopt
smart
justice
policies
throughout
the
state
of
nevada,
to
drive
down
our
prison
population
and
save
the
states
to
state
millions
of
dollars
in
incarceration
costs.
So
for
these
reasons,
we
strongly
support
this
legislation.
Thank
you.
H
Q
Yes,
hello,
my
name
is
nicole
cox,
nicole
from
assembly
district
2..
I'm
calling
in
support
for
abh-125
prior
to
incarceration,
my
husband
had
always
been
a
hard-working
man
in
fact
had
been
working,
two
full-time
jobs
prior
to
leaving
just
to
assist
in
supporting
our
families.
While
he
was
gone,
you
know
he
had
continued
to
work
as
a
porter
in
the
prison
and
has
also
completed
several
programs
to
assist
him
bettering
himself.
Q
Q
H
B
N-E-L-B-A-W-E-Y-G-A-N-T,
my
husband
is
currently
incarcerated.
At
ndoc
my
husband
was
sentenced
to
tend
to
life
as
a
habitual
criminal.
My
husband
has
made
many
mistakes
in
his
life,
and
I
know
that
he
must
pay
for
what
he's
done.
I
am
very
sick
and
have
three
daughters,
my
youngest
age,
two.
I
think
that
she
might
not
to
think
that
she
might
not
know
her.
Dad
is
terrifying.
My
husband
is
at
ndoc
working
as
a
porter.
He
has
no
write-ups
and
is
trying
to
do
everything
right.
B
B
H
O
O
H
Q
I
am
in
support
of
ab-125,
which
would
impact
my
loved
one
as
well
as
many
of
many
others.
Hugely
this
bill
would
possibly
bring
my
loved
one
home
up
to
eight
years
sooner.
In
the
last
few
years
he
has
received
his
high
school
diploma
to
culinary
classes,
didn't
return
to
assist
in
teaching
them
all,
while
continuing
to
have
a
job
as
the
unit
laundry
and
being
right
up
free
when
he
was
home,
he
was
a
caring
and
loving
father,
son
and
hard-working.
Q
He
worked
as
a
construction
reconstruction
worker
and
had
his
own
teams,
which
he
managed
having
the
chance
to
bring
my
loved
one
home
here
sooner
would
be
able
to
bring
our
family
back
together
again,
showing
him
and
many
others
that
people
do
believe
in
rehabilitation,
and
this
would
impact
them
hugely.
Q
H
Q
First
name
is
ashley
a-s-h-l-e-y
last
name
is
white
w-h-I-t-e
good
morning
my
name
is
ashley
and
my
fiance
is
currently
incarcerated.
I
am
here
to
support
this
bill
because
I
believe
it
would
benefit
him
and
other
individuals
as
well.
He
is
considered
to
have
a
class
b
felony,
but
does
not
fit
the
class
b
felony
criteria.
In
this
case
he
has
done
over
90
of
his
sentence
and
is
due
to
expire
soon.
He
is
working
and
doing
everything
he
can
to
get
home
quicker.
Q
He
has
done
everything
that
has
been
asked
of
him
through
programs
and
classes.
This
current
situation
is
making
his
depression
and
anxiety
increase
and
he
has
had
to
increase
his
medications
as
well.
He
just
wants
to
come
home
and
be
able
to
help
raise
his
young
children
with
this
bill.
It
would
help
give
individuals
an
incentive
to
put
effort
into
doing
their
time
to
prepare
themselves
when
they
are
free
right
now
for
many
of
them
right
now,
for
many
of
them,
like
my
fiance,
he
feels
like
no
matter
how
hard
he
tries.
Q
H
D
D
H
B
S-A-U-N-D-E-R-S
and
I'm
the
policy
director
with
the
progressive
leadership
alliance
in
nevada,
I
just
want
to
echo
the
sentiments
of
those
who
spoke
before
me.
This
is
a
good
bill
that,
as
you
have
heard
from
the
families
who
have
testified,
will
make
a
meaningful
difference
in
people's
lives.
We
wanted
to
add
our
support
for
ab125
to
the
record.
Thank
you.
H
B
Unfortunately,
the
time
he
has
been
incarcerated
has
taken
a
huge
toll
on
his
mental
health.
There
are
phone
calls
that
I
spend
being
her
counselor
and
talking
him
through
his
depression
and
ptsd
for
him
to
just
make
it
through
the
day.
He
has
not
received
any
write-ups
and
complies
with
his
programming
so
that
he
can
come
home
as
soon
as
he
can.
I
know
that
he
is
not
alone.
B
There
are
others
who
suffer
the
same
fate,
the
longer
they
are
in
the
corrections
system,
the
higher
the
risk
of
developing
mental
health
issues
or
exacerbating
those
they
already
have
in
support
of
this
bill.
You
are
showing
these
individuals
that
you
are.
You
are
watching
that
make
the
right
steps
in
the
right
direction
and
supporting
all
of
their
efforts.
Thank
you.
H
Q
A
H
L
Good
morning
my
name
is
ayanna
a-y-a-n-n-a
simmons
s-I-m-m-o-n-s,
and
I
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
and
I
too
have
a
loved
one,
several
incarcerated
in
nevada
department
of
corrections.
I
am
here
today
to
express
my
gratitude
to
the
assembly
members
who
brought
this
bill
to
the
table.
This
is
desperately
needed
in
the
state
of
nevada.
L
L
They
can't
change
what
happened,
but
they
can
start
where
they
are
and
build
a
different,
ending
ab125s
allow
them
the
opportunity
to
believe
in
a
life
outside
of
prison
and
with
that
being
said,
with
those
who
have
been
sworn
and
taken
an
oath
to
the
constitution
and
the
obligation
for
morality
again,
we
are
nevada,
strong,
we're
battle
born.
We
can
do
this
together
and
address
the
problems
and
the
issues
that
reoccur
and
again
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
time
and
allowing
me
to
address
this
and
putting
this
on
the
table.
L
H
H
N
N
She
has
never
been
in
trouble
before
she
was
my
easy
child,
but
one
night
one
poor
decision
has
impacted
her
life
and
the
lives
of
another
family
forever.
She
has
never
been
incarcerated.
She
has
been
incarcerated
since
june
of
2016
almost
60
months,
for
what
was
pled
down
whitney
would
be
one
of
the
people
that
would
benefit
from
ad125.
N
She
has
already
served
close
to
her
minimum
and
has
now
done
everything
that
she
can
to
get
her
time.
She
was
in
college
working
on
her
associates
degree
when
the
accident
happened
since
receiving
her
sentence
in
2017.
She
has
received
her
associate's
degree,
while
working
as
a
porter
on
property
at
casa
grande.
She
also
has
received
18
a's
and
is
currently
enrolled
in
unlv
finishing
up
a
bachelor's
degree
in
communications.
N
My
daughter
is
someone
who
took
responsibility
for
her
mistake
and
has
done
everything
she
can
to
improve
herself
during
her
incarceration
she's
a
great
example
of
what
can
be
accomplished
when
everyone
works
together.
I
feel
that
people
deserve
a
chance
to
build
a
new
life
after
incarceration.
That
night
should
not
be
the
sum
of
her
life.
This
bill
gives
people
who
have
been
convicted
of
b
felonies
an
opportunity
to
show
their
growth
and
be
given
a
chance
to
redeem
their
story.
N
I
am
in
support
of
ab125
and
given
good
time
credits
to
people
with
class
b
felonies
one
law
makes
it
hard
for
the
person
that
didn't
ever
do
anything
wrong,
never
planned
on
anything
ever
happening
would
have
never
went
out
if
they
would
have
known
this
was
going
to
happen
to
them
and
now,
because
of
a
certain
way,
the
law
reads:
they're
excluded
from
ab125
very
unfair
for
someone
who
has
been
never
been
in
trouble
in
her
entire
life
and
is
trying
so
hard
to
be
a
a
decent
person
in
society.
Thank
you.
H
H
Q
H
N
Thank
you
for
letting
me
speak
today
in
support
of
ab125,
I'm
calling
on
behalf
of
my
nephew,
who
was
incarcerated
in
nevada,
who
recently
passed
away.
Unfortunately,
he
was
supposed
to
get
out
in
october,
but
because
they
stopped
the
work
program,
they
kept
adding
time
to
his
sentence
and
they
delayed
its
release
all
the
way
up
until
a
month
ago,
and
he
was
diagnosed
in
june
with
hepatitis
c
and
refused
treatment
because
they
said
he
was
getting
out
too
soon.
N
His
goal
he's
always
been
a
hard
worker
but
suffered
from
mental
health
issues
and
substance
abuse,
and
he
was
with
me
for
four
weeks
and
we
kept
trying
to
get
him
health
care
and
getting
id
and
all
this
stuff
and
fine
and
the
treatment
kept
getting
put
off
put
off.
So
he
decided
to
go
to
florida
to
see
his
two
children
10
and
12..
N
Please
get
me
out
of
here,
get
fi
find
out.
What's
going
with
me
medically,
he
was
panicky
and
I
I
talked
him
through
it.
I
kept
trying
to
call
people
and
basically
they
added
another
month
to
a
sentence.
They
said
they
made
a
clerical
error
in
october
2014
and
it
was
torturous
honestly
for
him
and
for
our
family
and
then
for
him
to
finally
get
out
and
to
just
literally
die,
and
I
I
so
I
meant
full.
N
I
was
very
excited
to
hear
about
this
bill
because
I
want
to
do
everything
I
can
to
support
families
who
are
still
in
there
who
are
suffering
and
just
it's
just
really
unfair.
So
I'm
very
excited
about
this,
and
I'm
so
grateful
for
all
of
you
that
are
in
support
the
legislatures
and
the
families,
and
that's
it.
Thank
you.
So
much.
A
H
N
A-R-E-L-I-R-O-D-I-R-I-G-U-E-Z,
while
my
brother
is
incarcerated,
he
wouldn't
be
impacted
by
this
bill,
but
I
am
speaking
today
on
behalf
of
another
family
whose
loved
one
would
be
impacted,
but
they
can't
be
here
and
they
asked
me
to
tell
their
story
first.
Thank
you
for
creating
this
bill.
It
is
important
to
so
many
people
and
will
receive
and
will
receive
hope
in
in
a
hopeless
situation.
Losing
your
physical
freedom
is
horrible.
N
Well,
for
so
many
people
that
are
incarcerated,
the
hopelessness
is
what
also
leads
them
to
just
give
up.
Today
I
want
to
share
a
story
of
a
loved
one
who
has
had
a
long
time
issue
with
abusing
drugs
and
alcohol.
Since
the
beginning
of
his
addiction.
He
has
always
been
sent
to
prison
repeatedly.
He
didn't
get
help
or
alternative
sentencing
or
restorative
justice
options.
Prison
was
the
only
answer
that
we
had
to
address
his
substance
abuse
issues.
N
N
N
Ab125
is
one
my
way
we
can
do
the
right
thing
as
society
and
as
a
community
give
people
the
opportunity
to
earn
back
some
of
their
life
myself
and
my
family
are
in
full
support
of
ab125
and
are
so
happy
to
see
our
legends,
our
legislators
doing
the
right
thing
for
our
incarcerated
population,
and,
although
I
understand
this
won't
help
the
person
I
am
talking
about,
because
it's
a
bit
habitual,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
to
tell
their
story.
Thank
you.
A
H
H
P
As
previously
stated,
category
b
felonies
are
designed
to
be
significant
crimes
against
the
person
property
crimes
with
a
higher
value
threshold,
substantial
identity,
fraud
cases
or
crimes
involving
a
significant
public
safety
interest.
Over
the
years
we
have
reviewed
these
offenses
to
make
sure
only
the
most
severe
are
listed
as
category
b
felonies.
There
is
more
work
to
be
done,
but
because
of
the
severity
of
these
offenses
da's
have
a
post
effort
to
apply
credits
to
the
front
end
of
these
sentences.
P
We
appreciate
assemblywoman
duran,
accepting
part
of
our
suggestion
with
respect
to
residential
burglary,
but
there
are
still
ver
several
other.
Very
serious
offenses
that
would
now
be
eligible
for
front-end
credits,
including
child
neglect,
elder
exploitation,
possession
of
firearm
by
felons
and
domestic
abusers
and
others.
P
None
of
these
crimes
have
an
element
of
use
or
threatened
use
of
violence
and
thus
would
be
entitled
to
credits
under
ab125,
and
we
strongly
oppose
this
persons
convicted
of
these
and
other
crimes
should
serve
the
minimum
sentence
in
its
entirety,
and
I
also
want
to
say,
be
very
skeptical
when
people
say
non-violent
crime,
residential
burglary,
for
example,
someone
coming
into
your
home
ransacking
ransacking,
violating
the
place
where
people
feel
most
safe
is
defined
as
a
non-violent
offense
in
the
state
of
nevada
and
as
I've
previously
referenced.
Other
examples
of
serious
offenses
can
be
considered.
P
Non-Violent
section
two
of
the
bill
makes
the
application
of
these
good
times
credits
to
the
front
end
of
a
sentence
retroactive.
P
It's
our
opinion
that
section
two
violates
the
truth
and
sentencing
laws
and
the
spirit
of
marsy's
law
by
significantly
changing
a
defendant's
sentence
without
input
from
the
victim
when
a
defendant
is
sentenced
to
a
category
b.
Felony
victims
are
told
that
the
defendant
will
serve
at
least
the
minimum
sentence
before
being
eligible
for
parole.
P
Defendants
are
not
opposed
to
applying
credits
to
low-level
felonies
and
over
the
years
we
have
engaged
in
efforts
to
move
lower-level,
felonies
to
category
c
or
even
lower,
thus
allowing
credits
to
be
applied.
In
fact,
last
session
we
agreed
to
reduce
quite
a
few
category
b,
felonies
to
lower
offenses,
and
we
feel
this
reclassification
process
is
a
better
way
to
accomplish
a
similar
goal
with
that
at
chair
yeager.
I
look
forward
to
continuing
this.
This
discussion
with
assemblywoman,
duran
and
others,
and
I
appreciate
your
time.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
for
your
testimony,
mr
jones,
and
always
appreciate
your
willingness
to
continue
the
dialogue
to
see
whether
there
might
be
common
ground
there.
So
please
I'll
just
ask
you
and
assemblywoman
durant
to
keep
us
updated
as
those
discussions
go
forward
bps.
Do
we
have
anybody
else
on
the
line
who'd
like
to
testify
in
opposition
today.
H
Thank
you
chair.
We
are
in
opposition
for
assembly
bill
125..
If
you
have
recently
joined
the
column,
would
like
to
testify
in
opposition.
Please
press
star
9
now
to
take
your
place
in
the
queue
for
callers
wishing
to
provide
testimony
in
opposition
of
assembly
bill
125.
Please
press
star
9,
now
to
take
your
place
in
the.
A
Thank
you
bps.
I
will
close
opposition
testimony
at
this
time
and
I
did
just
get
a
request.
I
think
there
was
a
question
for
mr
jones,
but
I
think
he
is
is
no
longer
on
the
line.
So
I
would
encourage
members
if
you
do
have
questions
for
mr
jones
in
opposition.
Please
reach
out
to
him
email
him
call
him.
I
I
assure
you
he
will
get
back
to
you
in
a
timely
manner,
so
seeing
no
further
opposition
I'll
close
that
testimony,
let's
go
to
neutral
testimony.
A
H
H
R
A
A
We'll
we
will
go
back
to
neutral
bps.
Could
we
check
the
phone
and
see
if
there's
anyone
neutral,
please.
H
A
Thank
you
bps.
I
will
close
neutral
testimony
committee
members.
As
you
probably
noted,
we
didn't
have
director
daniels
or
anybody
else
from
the
department
of
corrections
on
today.
That's
no
slight
on
them.
They're
not
required
to
be
here
but
assemblywoman
cohen,
had
some
questions
about
how
some
of
the
existing
law
works,
so
assemblywoman
cohen.
A
I
would
encourage
you
to
reach
out
to
the
department
of
corrections
not
to
put
too
much
work
on
her,
but
I
also
believe
vice
chair
wynn
knows
quite
a
bit
about
how
the
law
actually
works
in
terms
of
what
you're
reading
in
the
bill.
That
is
not
changes
to
existing
law,
so
she's
a
good
resource
to
reach
out
to
as
well,
if
you're
not
able
to
connect
with
the
department
of
corrections.
A
So
with
that
behind
us,
let's
go
ahead
and
take
any
testimony
any
wrap
up
testimony.
We
always
try
to
give
presenters
the
last
words
on
their
bill,
so
assemblywoman
duran,
miss
burchie,
mr
pirro
looks
like
assemblywoman.
Duran
is
unmuted
so
I'll.
Let
her
go
first
and
then
we'll
take
it
from
there.
Please
go
ahead.
K
We
do
look
forward
to
working
with
mr
jones
on
his
concerns
and
with
the
help
of
mr
pero
vice
chair
nguyen
and
miss
burchie,
and
thank
you
and
well
we'll
get
back
to
you
and
if
you
have
further
questions,
we
will
be
available
and
we
urge
your
support
for
ab125.
Thank
you.
A
M
I
A
Hey
thank
you
to
the
three
of
you
for
presenting
assembly
bill
125
this
morning,
appreciate
it
and
please
have
a
great
rest
of
your
day.
I'll
now
close
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
125
committee,
three
bills
in
less
than
two
hours,
so
I
feel
proud
about
that
proud
about
our
work
today.
I
wasn't
sure
if
we
were
gonna
get
through
all
three
of
these.
We
did
so
that's
a
good
sign
for
things
to
come
and
processing
the
work
in
front
of
us.
I'll
now
go
to
our
final
agenda
item,
which
is
public
comment.
A
By
way
of
reminder,
we
will
reserve
30
minutes
for
public
comment
at
the
end
of
each
meeting.
Callers
on
the
public
comment
line
will
have
up
to
two
minutes
to
provide
their
public
comment
vps.
Could
we
go
to
the
public
comment
line
and
see
if
there's
anybody
there
who
would
like
to
give
public
comment
this
morning.
H
H
O
O
T-O-N-J-A-B-R-O-W-N
advocates
for
the
inmates
in
the
innocent-
I
don't
recall
the
woman's
name,
but
I
would
like
to
send
our
sincere
condolences
to
her
and
her
family
over
the
loss
of
her
her
nephew,
and
she
touched
on
something
that
I
I
have
an
understanding
of
will
say
over
the
years
I
have
seen
inmates
trying
to
get
help
for
hepatitis
c
and
being
put
on
the
back
burner
because
of
their
parole
tag
and
simply
if
they
are
coming
up
for
a
parole
hearing,
it's
one
way
that
they
get
around
not
doing
medical
treatment
for
these
individuals
and
then
they'll
come
up
for
the
parole
board
hearing
and
then
they
will
get
a
dump
and
then
again,
they'll
have
another
pearl
tag
coming
hearing
coming
up
in
another
two
years
or
a
year,
whatever
the
case
may
be,
and
then
they
will
be
given
a
dump
again
and
no
treatments
start,
and
normally
they
don't
start
the
treatment
until
it
is
too
late,
and
by
that
time
their
disease
has
progressed
and
it's
just
it's
too
late
and
they
they
die,
and
this
is
something
that
really
needs
to
be
looked
at.
A
H
R
R
Clearly,
in
the
midst
of
a
mental
health
crisis,
he
thought
his
girlfriend
was
trying
to
poison
him
with
peanut
butter
cups
according
to
deputies,
nico
attempted
suicide,
while
in
the
jail
cell
he
was
actually
dunking.
His
head
in
the
toilet
deputies
ran
in
and
stopped
him,
then
six,
eight
deputies
surrounded
nico,
who
was
prone
face
down
with
two
nailing,
with
their
full
weight
on
his
back
cutting
off
his
ability
to
breathe
no
deputies
attempted
cpr
nico
was
a
father
of
one
young
son,
a
brother,
a
son
and
a
friend
to
many.
R
I
have
gotten
to
know
nico's
brother
romeo
smith
through
our
shared
nightmare.
He
too
hopes
for
transparency
and
accountability
and
for
no
other
family
to
know
this
unnecessary
nightmare.
Please
do
not
support
bills
that
protect
bad
police.
Please
support
bills
that
promote
transparency
and
accountability,
and
I
too
would
like
to
send
my
condolences
to
the
caller
who
lost
her
nephew
at
the
jail.
Thank
you
or
recently
who
died
from
the
lack
of
treatment.
Thank
you.
H
H
A
Thank
you
bps.
I
will
close
public
comment
for
the
meeting
and
thank
you
bps
for
making
that
all
happen.
Today
we
had
a
number
of
callers
on
that
last
bill.
We
heard
and
thank
you
for
managing
all
of
them
and
getting
them
all
connected
and
able
to
testify.
We
appreciate
the
hard
work
that
you're
all
doing
to
make
these
virtual
meetings
a
reality.
A
A
Okay,
I
don't
see
anything
I
want
to.
Thank
you
guys
again,
I'm
very
impressed
that
we
got
through
those
three
bills
in
two
hours.
So
I
think
that
speaks
to
the
homework
that
you
all
did
last
night
to
be
prepared
for
these
bills
and
as
chair,
I
really
appreciate
that.
So
please
continue
to
do
that
as
the
session
gets
busier.
A
So
tomorrow
we
are
starting
at
nine
o'clock
rather
than
eight
o'clock,
and
our
own
assemblywoman
gonzalez
is
going
to
be
presenting
a
bill
tomorrow.
I
think
it's
going
to
be
her
first
bill
presentation.
Assemblywoman
marzola
showed
us
the
way
this
morning
with
her
first
bill
presentation.
So
we
look
forward
to
that.
A
Just
so
members
know
I'll
remind
you
tomorrow,
but
at
some
point
tomorrow
morning
I'll
be
presenting
a
bill
over
in
government
affairs,
so
I
may
have
to
hand
the
meeting
off
to
our
able
vice
chair,
if
I'm
being
called
to
jump
on
a
different
zoom,
since
I
don't
think
we
can
be
on
two
at
the
same
time
and
then
for
friday.
Just
so
you
know
we
are
going
to
have
a
meeting
friday,
we're
going
to
start
at
8
o'clock
on
friday.
A
A
vice
chair,
win
is
going
to
be
presenting
a
bill
and
we
are
planning
on
a
work
session
on
friday
after
the
bill
hearing
we're
still
finalizing
that
document,
but
I
think
it's
safe
to
say
that
we'll
probably
be
voting
on
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
seven
to
ten
bills.
So
look
for
the
agenda
to
come
out
indicating
what
those
bills
are
and
then
for
new
members
to
the
committee.
Just
so
you
know
we
put
together
a
work
session
document.
It
basically
summarizes
the
bill
and
any
proposed
amendments
to
the
bill.
A
So
you'll
have
that
to
refresh
your
memory,
because
you
may
not
remember
a
bill.
We
heard
two
or
three
weeks
ago
and
we'll
make
sure
that
members
of
the
committee
get
that
document
well
in
advance
of
the
meeting
it'll
be
sometime
tomorrow.
So
it
won't
be
the
morning
of
the
work
session.
You'll
have
some
time
to
look
at
that,
and
my
request
of
you
is
just
to.
Let
me
know
if
there's
something
on
there
that
you're
not
comfortable
with
or
if
you're
planning
on
voting.
A
No,
please
let
me
know
that
when
we
do
the
work
session,
we'll
have
time
to
answer
questions
and
make
sure
that
everyone
knows
what
they're
voting
on.
So
that's
what
friday
looks
like
for
now
so
again.
A
reminder
tomorrow
is
nine
o'clock.
Friday
is
eight
o'clock.
We
are
working
on
agendas
for
next
week,
but
we
don't
have
any
of
those
ready
yet
so
I'm
not
ready
to
tell
you
what
next
week's
gonna
look
like.
I
should
have
more
information
for
you
tomorrow
or
friday.