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A
Here
you
can't
come
in
by
the
camera
good
morning.
Everyone
we
do
have
a
quorum.
It
looks
like
everyone
is
present,
want
to
say
good
morning
to
our
committee
members
and
those
who
may
be
watching
either
on
the
legislature's
website
or
on
the
youtube
channel
this
morning
welcome
to
day
25
of
the
81st
session
of
the
nevada
legislature.
A
Before
we
get
started
with
housekeeping
rules,
I
did
want
to
wish
a
very
happy
birthday
to
former
assembly,
judiciary,
chair
and
former
majority
leader,
mr
william
horn.
So
if
you
are
watching
sir,
we
hope
you
have
a
great
birthday
today
before
we
get
started
with
the
agenda,
we
have
a
few
housekeeping
rules
to
go
over.
A
Most
of
these
are
familiar
by
now,
but
for
those
who
are
on
the
zoom
with
us,
if
you
could
remember
to
mute
when
you're,
not
speaking,
that
will
help
with
the
audio
feedback
and
then
for
our
presenters
this
morning,
who
may
not
have
presented
yet
in
this
format.
If
you
can
remember
to
state
your
name
each
time
you
speak,
that
will
help
our
committee
secretary
with
the
minutes.
I
realize
it's
an
awkward
thing
to
do
so.
A
If
you
forget
I'll,
probably
interrupt
you
and
remind
you,
and
hopefully
by
the
end
of
the
meeting,
we
will
have
it
all
down.
We
do
expect
courtesy
and
respect
and
our
interactions
with
one
another.
We
don't
always
agree
on
policy,
that's
perfectly
okay,
but
we
need
to
make
sure
we're
being
respectful
of
one
another
and
of
the
legislative
institution.
A
And
finally,
many
of
the
members
have
multiple
screens
and
devices
in
front
of
them.
So
please
don't
see
it
as
a
sign
of
disrespect
or
inattention
if
members
appear
to
be
looking
away,
they're
most
likely
looking
at
exhibits.
I
do
that
on
my
ipad
as
well.
So
if
you
see
me
looking
away,
that's
what's
happening,
okay,
so
let's
move
on
to
our
agenda
for
the
day
members.
As
you
can
see,
we
have
one
bill
on
the
agenda
today
and
before
I
opened
that
bill.
A
I
wanted
to
remind
members
that
at
some
point
this
morning,
I'll
probably
have
to
jump
off
of
the
zoom
and
go
present
a
bill
in
government
affairs.
So
if
you
see
me
drop
off
the
meeting,
that's
what's
happening
and
our
able
vice
chair
win
will
take
over
at
that
point
and
hopefully
I'll
be
back
before
we're
done
for
the
day.
A
Let
me
just
pull
this
up
to
make
sure
I've
got
the
list,
so
she
has
a
few
other
presenters
who
are
on
zoom
with
us,
including
miss
turner,
miss
mosley,
miss
williams
and
miss
moya
gray.
So
I
want
to
welcome
the
four
of
you
to
the
assembly
judiciary
committee.
We'll
give
you
a
chance
to
present
the
bill
and
then
I'm
sure
we'll
have
some
questions
so
assemblywoman
gonzalez.
Please
take
it
away
when
you're
ready.
H
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
chair
yeager
for
the
record.
I'm
cecilia
gonzalez,
representing
assembly
district
16
here
in
clark
county
well
we're
here
in
carson
city,
but
in
beautiful
clark
county.
I
just
wanted
to
make
note
of
the
amendment
that
I
sent
out
last
evening
that
senator
dallas
harris
will
be
joining
this
bill
as
a
primary
sponsor,
and
so
that
should
have
been
in
your
inboxes
last
night.
H
Here
with
me
today
I
have
lisa
mosley,
the
nevada
state
director
for
fines
and
fees
with
the
justice
center.
I
also
have
leslie
turner,
who
is
with
plan
nevada,
we're
here
today
to
present
assembly
bill
151,
which
reverses
the
suspensions
of
driver's
licenses
and
before
I
hand
it
over
to
our
amazing
presenters.
I
just
wanted
to
briefly
talk
about
why
I
brought
this
bill
forward.
H
Debt-Based
license
suspensions,
forced
an
impossible
choice
to
either
stop
driving
and
lose
access
to
work
and
basic
necessities,
or
to
keep
driving,
thus
risking
arrests
and
even
more
fines
and
fees
later,
and
so
you
know
this
bill
is
seeking
to
address
one
of
the
many
cycles
of
poverty
and
incarceration
that
we
have
in
our
communities,
and
so
with
that,
I'm
going
to
hand
it
off
to
lisa,
mosley
and
leslie
turner
to
present
the
bill.
Thank
you.
I
Thank
you
assemblywoman
gonzalez,
good
morning,
mr
chair
greetings
to
you
and
members
of
the
committee,
I'm
lisa
mosley,
the
state
director
for
the
fines
and
feast
justice
center.
We
are
a
national
organization
that
works
to
eliminate
fees
that
are
associated
with
the
criminal
justice
system
and
to
make
fines
more
equitable
and
just
I
am
super
excited
and
a
little
nervous
to
be
co-presenting.
This
bill
today,
alongside
assembly,
one
assemblywoman,
gonzalez,
leslie
turner
and,
along
with
miss
williams
and
miss
moya.
I
I
But
what
the
research
shows
is.
That
is
not
the
case,
rather
than
being
unwilling
to
pay
traffic,
fines
and
fees.
People
are
simply
unable
to
pay
if
covet
has
done
anything,
it
has
highlighted
in
equities,
and
it
is
highlighted
issues
like
poverty
and
unemployment,
and
so,
rather
than
looking
at
this
through
the
lens
of
people
being
unwilling
to
pay,
the
research
shows
that
people
are
simply
not
able
to
pay
and
as
an
example,
to
support
that
we
looked
at
some
data
around
the
state.
I
The
top
five
zip
codes
in
the
greater
las
vegas
area
have
the
highest
rates
of
traffic
points
and
though
this
is
not
a
warrant's
bill,
it
goes
and
warrants
and
suspensions
go
hand
in
hand.
So,
looking
at
the
top
five
zip
codes
in
the
greater
las
vegas
area,
greater,
yes,
greater
las
vegas
area,
we
see
that
those
warrants
issued
are
also
the
same
zip
codes
where
we
see
the
highest
rates
of
food
insecurity
and
the
lowest
median
incomes.
So
it
goes
to.
I
Our
research
also
shows
that
suspensions
just
simply
make
it
harder
for
people
to
find
work
to
retain
work
and
it
prevents
them
from
being
able
to
pay
these
debts,
and
it
also
in
many
cases,
prevents
them
from
being
able
to
support
their
families.
It
traps
them
in
a
cycle
of
poverty
and
once
they're
in
that
cycle,
it
we
find
that
it's
really
nearly
impossible
to
get
out
of
people
who
can't
pay
their
fines
and
fees
they
as
assembly.
Women
mentioned
the
face
of
impossible
choice.
I
These
are
the
same.
People
have
to
drive,
they
have
to
drive
their
children
to
school,
they
have
to
get
to
doctors,
appointments
they
have
to
get
to
places
that
are
necessities
and
with
covered
and
social
distancing
guidelines
in
place,
we
are
being
asked
to
distance
ourselves,
so
people
find
it
necessary
to
drive
and
many
cases
these.
I
Two
of
them,
california
and
texas,
have
seen
an
actual
increase
in
revenue,
and
I
bring
this
up
because
looking
at
the
opposition,
much
of
the
opposition
comes
because
people
are
concerned
about
the
revenue
and
rightfully
so,
to
their
state.
But
what
the
research
shows
is
that
for
states
that
have
ended
this
practice
they've
actually
seen
an
increase
in
revenue.
Why
is
that?
Because
now
people
are
able
to
get
to
work,
they're
able
to
retain
their
jobs.
I
They
have
mobility
and
data
out
of
phoenix
arizona
who
has
a
program
for
people
who
have
outstanding
traffic
violations
or
outstanding
debt.
Phoenix
data
out
of
phoenix
shows
that
when
people
don't
have
their
license
suspension
once
their
licenses
are
reinstated,
their
their
mobility
increases,
they
are
able
to
get
to
work,
they're
able
to
retain
jobs
and
phoenix
has
seen
an
actual
increase
in
their
gdp
of
about
1.49
million
dollars.
That's
pretty
significant,
that's
pretty
significant,
and
so
I
also
want
to
talk
just
for
a
minute
about
texas.
I
I
I'm
sorry,
that's
dallas,
not
fort
worth
that
uses
a
system
of
suspending
driver's
license.
Dallas,
on
the
other
hand,
does
not
in
the
year
that
followed
them.
Implementing
that
practice
fort
worth.
There
virtually
shows
no
difference
in
the
revenue
that
they
collected
per
case
fort
worth,
collects
about
116
per
case.
That's
disposed
of
and
dallas
collecting
about
113.
I
I
Assembly
bill
151,
as
assemblywoman
gonzalez
mentioned,
will
simply
end
the
ability
for
jurisdictions
to
suspend
driver's
license
for
unpaid
fines
and
fees.
We
think
that's
a
great
thing.
We
think
that's
a
great
thing,
and
so
now
I
will
go
into
the
sections
of
the
bill
section,
one
of
ab151
now.
Thank
you
for
this.
I
This
is
my
first
time
doing
so,
please
forgive
me
if
I'm
a
little
bit
nervous
but
section
one
of
ab151
simply
removes
the
authority
of
the
court
to
suspend
a
person's
driver
license
or
prohibit
a
person
with
a
suspended
license
from
applying
for
a
driver's
license.
If
they
have
a
delinquent
fine
administrative
assessment
or
fee
and
their
research
or
restitution
and
was
originally
posed
for
minor
traffic
events,
minor
traffic
offense
is
defined
in
existing
law.
I
These
chapters
include,
and
I'm
reading.
These
chapters
include
44,
which
covers
provisions
governing
traffic
laws
generally
chapter
44
b,
which
contains
the
rules
of
the
road
chapter
484c,
which
contains
provisions
governing
regarding
driving
under
the
influence
of
alcohol
or
prohibited
substance.
I
should
also
mention
that
this
bill
does
not
take
away
the
authority
to
spend
driver's
licenses
for
for
dui
related
offenses
and
things
and
reckless
driving.
I
know
that
has
been
a
concern
we
have
had
that
concern
expressed
to
us
this
bill
does
not
do
that.
I
Some
of
the
exceptions
to
this
include
a
violation
of
nrs
484c,
1.1,
1.0
or
484c
0.1
to
0,
which
are
driving
under
the
influence.
As
I
just
mentioned,
section
two
provides
that
the
court
does
not
need
to
notify
the
department
of
motor
vehicles
for
a
person's
failure
to
appear
for
minor
traffic.
Offense
section
three
provides
that
if
a
person
is
subject
to
a
suspension
on
the
effective
date
of
this
bill,
his
or
her
driver's
license
be
reinstated
or
the
person
being
notified
of
their
ability
to
reinstate
his
or
her
driver's
license.
I
This
bill
also
provides
that
the
dmv
must
not
charge
any
fee
for
reinstatement
of
a
driver's
license
or
require
a
person
to
undergo
any
physical
or
mental
examination
to
be
eligible
for
the
reinstatement
under
their
driver's
license.
Lastly,
this
bill
applies
to
offenses
committed
on
or
after
october,
1st
2021,
the
effective
date
as
assemblywoman
mentioned.
We,
the
proposed
amendment,
is
that
senator
harris
is
going
to
come
on
as
a
primary
sponsor,
and
I
think
that's
all
I
have
for
now.
I
A
Thank
you,
miss
mosley,
miss
turner
before
you
get
started.
I
just
wanted
to.
Let
folks
know
that
we're
going
to
let
the
presentation
conclude
we'll
still
we'll
hear
from
the
other
speakers
and
then
we'll
take
questions
then.
So,
just
let
me
or
the
vice
chair
know.
If
you
have
questions
and
we'll
proceed
in
that
manner
and
miss
mosley,
I
couldn't
tell
that
was
your
first
time.
You
didn't
seem
nervous
at
all,
so
very
well
done.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
same
with
assemblywoman
gonzalez
as
well.
A
You
guys
are
like
old
pros
doing
this
already,
so
miss
turner.
I
think
you're
up
next,
please
go
ahead.
D
Hello,
everyone
good
morning
so
I'll
just
get
right
into
my
remarks.
I'll
sorry.
D
I
am
with
plants
of
nevada,
I'm
also
the
founder
of
the
mass
liberation
project
in
the
vegas
freedom
fund,
and
so
sorry,
I'm
nervous
too.
Okay,
so
I'll
just
get
into
it.
If
we
are
successful
at
decriminalizing
traffic
offenses,
which
I
believe
we
will
be
many
legislators
on.
This
call
are
in
support
of
that.
D
Then
it
makes
sense
to
also
stop
the
suspension
of
driver's
licenses
for
non-payment,
much
like
being
issued
a
warrant
having
to
pay
warrant
fees.
Getting
your
license
suspended
and
having
to
pay
for
reinstatement
is
another
example
of
a
penalty
that
causes
harm
to
low-income
families
and
communities,
as
the
data
shows,
which
we'd
be
more
than
happy,
I'm
not
sure
if
the
data
has
already
been
sent
to
you
all,
but
if
not,
we
can
definitely
get
that
research
to
you.
D
D
D
Failure
to
pay
the
court
is
not
unequivocally
indicative
of
how
safe
people
actually
drive
on
the
road.
These
folks,
with
warrants
and
license
suspension,
are
not
criminals.
There
are
more
likely
mothers
and
fathers
cousins
neighbors
who
contribute
directly
to
the
growth
and
advancement
of
their
communities
every
single
day
and,
in
fact,
contribute
to
public
safety
not
being
in
financial.
D
D
As
you
will
hear
from
other
speakers,
a
person
can
pay
off.
Their
tickets
in
whole
still
owe
additional
fees
to
the
to
the
dmv
to
get
their
license.
Reinstated
must
retake
the
written
and
behind
the
wheel
exam,
which
requires
an
appointment
a
at
a
time
when
appointments
are
scarce
and,
on
average,
are
90
days
out
from
an
economic
standpoint.
We
must
find
new
revenue
streams
for
the
government
that
do
not
center
the
state's
poorest
populations.
Again,
the
research
shows
that
traffic
warrants
come
from
the
poorest
zip
codes,
at
least
in
nevada.
D
D
According
to
the
city
of
phoenix
municipal
court's
compliance
assistance
program
report,
a
suspended
license
not
only
limits
mobility,
thus
limiting
work
possibilities
but
lessens
overall
quality
of
life.
Families
experience
reduced
activities
together
and
increase
mental
health
and
psychological
impacts
that
cause
strain
to
the
family.
D
D
D
If
we
truly
want
to
deter
people
from
speeding
and
running,
stop
signs
and
increase
safety
on
the
road,
I
think
we
should
talk
to
more
drivers.
There
are
people
whose
licenses
have
been
suspended
multiple
times
for
failure
to
pay
tickets.
Many
of
these
tickets
were
non-driving
violations
such
as
expired
plates
or
laps
of
insurance,
which
again
represents
a
financial
issue.
A
black
hole
that
can
take
decades
for
people
to
climb
out
of
ab151
allows
those
folks
most
impacted
to
get
it
to
to
get
a
hand
in
climbing
out
of
that
hole.
D
Free
to
drive,
which
is
the
national
campaign
across
the
country,
makes
the
following
arguments
driver's
license:
suspensions
cost
people
their
livelihoods,
80
86
of
americans
drive
to
work,
and
many
jobs
require
a
driver's
license
without
a
license.
You
can't
take
your
children
to
school,
buy,
groceries
or
get
the
health
care
that
you
need.
D
Suspending
licenses
cuts
economic
growth,
people
who
can't
work
or
who
lose
income
due
to
a
suspended
license,
have
less
money
to
contribute
to
the
economy,
less
money
to
pay
off
their
initial
fines
and
fees,
leaving
them
saddled
with
court
debt
for
years
license
suspension
suspensions,
undermine
public
safety.
When
law
enforcement
uses
valuable
time
to
site,
stop
find
and
arrest
people
for
driving
on
a
suspended
license
due
to
unpaid
fines
and
fees.
They
have
less
time
to
investigate
and
focus
on
crimes
that
endanger
endanger
people's
lives.
D
All
of
these
things
are
true,
and
I
would
also
add
that,
from
my
personal
perspective,
it
also
harms
families.
It
causes
mental
anguish
and
contributes
to
the
systemic
issues
that
are
rooted
in
the
criminal
justice
system
if
you've
never
had
to
drive
with
a
warrant
without
a
license
or
without
registration,
had
to
get
rides,
walk
miles
or
spend
almost
half
of
your
waking
hours
on
public
transportation.
D
If
people
had
the
money
to
take
care
to
pay
it
all
off
and
take
care
of
it
and
be
in
good
standing,
they
would
we
have
the
opportunity
to
significantly
improve
the
life
lives
of
thousands
of
nevadans
during
a
pandemic.
When,
honestly,
people
just
need
a
break,
I
urge
you
to
give
the
people
what
they
need
and
deserve
by
voting
this
bill
out
of
committee
and,
ultimately
sending
it
on
its
task
become
love.
A
J
Well
good
morning,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
members
of
this
committee
for
bringing
and
hearing
ab151
today
we
are
excited
to
be
here
on
on
this
bill.
It's
been
a
it's
been
a
long
time,
a
long
road
getting
here.
My
name
is
yvette
williams,
and
I
am
chair
of
the
clark
county
black
caucus
and
I
would
like
to
just
especially
thank
miss
mosley
for
her
work
over
the
years.
J
Many
of
you
know
this
has
been
something
that
she
has
been
leading
the
black
caucus
on
as
chair
of
the
judicial
and
law
enforcement
committee
for
for
many
years,
and
so
I
just
want
to
want
to
acknowledge
her
today.
The
vast
majority
of
nevada
driver's
license
suspensions
are
for
traffic
tickets.
That
residents
cannot
afford
to
pay
between
july
2017
and
june
2019
over
38
000
nevadans
had
their
driver's
license
suspended
just
because
they
couldn't
afford
to
pay
court,
fines
and
fees.
J
J
This
cruel
practice
forces
people
to
make
an
impossible
choice,
stop
driving
and
lose
access
to
work,
children's
schools
or
daycare
medical
attention
and
basic
necessities,
or
keep
driving
and
and
risk
more
fines
and
fees,
arrest
or
even
incarceration
when
clark
county
black
caucus
hosted
one
of
our
educational
events
for
fines
and
fees.
A
few
years
ago,
I
recall
one
of
our
members
who
moved
to
nevada
and
did
not
have
family
support
and
had
a
horrible
experience.
J
J
Once
she
received
her
tax
return,
she
would
be
able
to
finally
pay
those
fees
that
by
the
way
had
increased,
but
as
luck
would
have
it
just
a
few
miles
from
her
home,
a
police
car
appeared
in
her
rearview,
mirror
and
sure
enough.
The
lights
went
on
and
instructed
her
to
pull
over
similar
to
others
in
nevada.
She
was
put
in
handcuffs
and
taken
away
with
her
young
children
traumatized
by
seeing
their
mother
in
the
state
crying
uncontrollably
and
mom
unable
to
comfort
them.
J
Child
protective
custody
would
be
called
and
her
children
also
put
into
custody.
You
see
she
had
no
family
to
call.
She
was
all
alone
here
in
vegas,
which
is
common.
This
issue
not
only
impacts
drivers,
but
it
also
disproportionately
impacts
children,
students
of
color
and
then
expected
to
perform
in
school.
After
such
an
ordeal,
it
was
her
worst
nightmare.
She
said
one.
J
J
The
las
vegas
review
journal
investigated
law
enforcement
data
and
found
that
residents
living
in
the
seven
poorest,
statistically
african
american
hispanic
zip
codes
account
for
nearly
two-thirds
of
traffic
citations.
I
just
want
to
repeat
that,
statistically
african-americans
and
hispanic
zip
codes
account
for
nearly
two-thirds
two-thirds
of
traffic
citations.
J
Further
in
2012
about
6
percent
of
cities
in
the
us
collected
more
than
10
percent
of
their
revenues.
In
this
matter,
nevada
is
one
of
the
highest
assembly
bill.
151
sponsored
by
assemblywoman,
gonzalez
and
assemblywoman
torres
will
help
thousands
of
safe
drivers
regain
the
freedom
to
drive
by
ending
driver's
license
suspension
when
the
underlying
basis
is
unpaid,
minor
traffic,
fines
fees
and
assessment.
We
also
ask
that
the
sponsors
in
this
committee
please
consider
making
reinstatements
of
driver's
license
retroactive
retroactive
to
be
fair.
J
There
are
many
people
who
still
do
not
have
their
license
today,
as
is
consistent
with
many
of
the
great
social
justice
reform
pills.
This
legislature
has
passed
in
recent
years
and
just
to
be
clear
again,
this
bill
does
not
eliminate
suspensions
and
revocations
based
on
dangerous
driving,
such
as
dui
or
relating
to
overdue
child
support.
J
In
closing,
legislation
like
ab151
has
bipartisan
national
support.
In
the
last
three
years,
14
states
have
passed
reforms
to
curb,
licensed
suspensions
for
unpaid
fines
and
fees,
missing,
missed
hearing
dates
or
both
the
driving
for
opportunity
act
introduced
by
senators
chris
coons,
a
democrat
and
roger
wicker.
A
republican
will
provide
grants
to
states
that
do
not
suspend
revoke
or
refuse
to
renew
a
driver's
license
of
a
person
or
registration
of
a
motor
vehicle
for
failure
to
pay
a
civil
or
criminal
finer
fee.
J
A
F
K
Hello
members
of
the
committee,
my
name,
is
eusania
moya.
Thank
you
so
much
for
letting
me
speak
today.
Thank
you
to
cecilia
and
leslie
and
lisa
and
yvette.
K
K
K
Las
vegas
is
a
sprawling
city
and
a
metro
area
that
lacks
simple
access
to
public
transportation,
oftentimes,
making
it
impossible
to
move
around
the
city
without
a
car
or
access
to
cash
for
the
bus,
which
sometimes
can
cost
upwards
of
120
dollars
a
month.
If
you're
just
paying
for
your
24
hour
bus
pass,
I
have
spent
upwards
of
four
hours
on
buses,
while
wasting
five
or
more
just
walking
or
waiting
for
the
next
bus
losing
my
driver's
license
did
not
just
mean
I
lost
the
privilege
of
driving
as
nevada
law
calls
it.
K
K
K
K
A
H
A
I
thank
you
so
much
to
the
five
of
you
for
presenting
here
this
morning.
I
have
a
number
of
questions.
So
I'll
just
go
with
the
list
we
have
so
far.
I
know
that
there
will.
There
will
be
more
questions,
but
I'll
start
in
this
order.
It'll
be
assembly,
woman,
cohen,
assemblyman,
wheeler,
assemblywoman,
krasner
and
then
assemblywoman
summers,
armstrong
and
then
we'll
take
additional
questions.
So
please
go
ahead.
Assemblywomancohen.
E
Thank
you
chair.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation.
Ladies.
I
have
a
couple
of
questions.
If
that's
okay,
chair
first,
it's
very
good
to
see
you
again
miss
mosley,
to
see
you
back
at
the
legislature,
can
can
you
go
back
and
and
go
through
the
the
collection
rates
in
other
cities
that
have
that
have
done
away
with
suspending
licenses.
I
Absolutely
as
as
you
all
are
doing,
I'm
moving
through
tabs
on
my
computer,
where
I
have
this
data
open,
but
I
wanted
to
highlight
specifically
california,
what
california
has
seen
and,
of
course,
california
stopped
the
practice
of
suspending
driver's
license
in
2018,
I
believe,
and
in
the
year
following
they
have
seen
about
an
8.9
increase
in
on-time
payments
of
from
folks,
with
outstanding
fines
and
fees.
That's
just
one
example.
I
What
we
saw
in
phoenix,
arizona
and
phoenix
has
the
program
that
ms
williams
highlighted
the
a
program
that
would
help
people
who
had
outstanding
fines
and
fees
get
their
driver's
license
reinstated
and
what
phoenix
has
seen
is
not
only
the
the
1.49
million
dollar
increase
in
their
gdp.
I
That
they've
seen
they've
also
seen
a
hold
on
I'm
looking
for
some
of
my
data
sitting
here,
many
of
the
folks
in
phoenix
about
76
percent
said
they
had
an
increase
in
mobility
and
they
were
able
to
now
drive
their
family
members
around
they're
able
to
get
their
kids
to
school.
They
were
able
to
get
people
to
work.
They
were
able
to
get
to
the
grocery
store.
I
They
were
able
to
get
to
doctors
appointments
as
a
result
of
their
mobility
about
53
of
those
folks-
and
I
know
ms
cohen-
you
specifically
talked
about
some
of
the
increases
in
revenue
and
collection
rate,
but
I
think
this
is
important
to
highlight,
because
this,
if
people
are
able
to
get
to
work
and
they're
able
to
pay,
then
we're
going
to
see
an
increase
in
those
those
rates
of
collections
and
so
about
53
of
those
folks,
53
of
those
people
indicated
that
they
were
able
to
obtain
new
employment
and
actually
employment
that
where
they
were
able
to
increase
their
salary,
41
reported
an
increase
in
income
as
a
result
of
that
program
through
phoenix,
ranging
from
about
three
thousand
two
hundred
dollars
to
forty
eight
thousand
per
person
with
the
median
income
of
about
twenty
four
thousand.
I
I
And
if
I,
if
I
made
for
just
a
moment
mr
chair,
please
forgive
me,
I
meant
to
address
miss
cohen
through
you.
If
that's
okay,.
A
Yeah,
you
don't
have
to
go
through
me.
You
can
feel
free
to
go
to
the
member,
but
if
you
can
please
just
remember
to
state
your
name
before
you
speak
that'll
be
helpful.
E
And
then,
if
I,
if
I
can
have
a
second
question
chair.
E
So
then,
my
second
question
would
it
would
be
for
any
of
you
and
would
have
to
do
with
the
oh
shoot
in
lieu
of
in
lieu
of
paying
fees,
there's
there's
the
option
of
community
service.
But
what
I'd
like
to
know
is,
if
the
I
don't
believe
it's
required.
So
if
you
can
confirm
that
the
court
doesn't
have
to
offer
community
service
and
then
also
what
the
availability
is
of
community
service,
I'm
guessing
it's
limited
because
of
covid
right
now,
but
even
before
covid.
I
Thank
you,
assemblywoman
called
lisa
mosley
for
the
record.
I
will
attempt
to
answer
your
question
and
though
this
is
not
ab116
and
assemblywoman
wins
bill.
We
do
hope
to
address
the
disparities
in
community
service.
I
What
we've
seen
in
legislation
in
2019,
I
believe
it
was
ab416
in
both
ab434
addressed
community
service,
and
I
don't
think
was
it
payment
plans
that
you
asked
about
was
it
specifically
community
service
and
the
accessibility
we've
seen
that
what
we've
seen
what
some
of
the
research
has
shown?
What
we've
seen
is
that
people
aren't
always
able
to
work
and
perform
the
community
service
as
outlined,
and
we
also
know
that
in
2019
the
legislation
required
courts
to
do
an
ability
to
pay
assessment.
I
I
They
do
inability
to
pay
a
step,
and
it's
simply
asking
people
that
are
in
the
court.
Are
you
able
to
pay
these
tickets?
If
they
say
no,
they
said,
then
they
asked
them.
Would
you
like
to
do
community
service?
We
don't
know
if
that
standard
is
being
applied
across
the
board.
So
we
really
don't
have
a
lot
of
data
on
who's
doing
community
service,
the
availability
of
it,
how
accessible
it
is
to
people.
So
that's
something
we're
hoping
to
work
on
with
legislation
this
year
also.
J
Thank
you
hi,
my
assemblywoman
cohen.
If
I
might
add
to
your
question
concerning
phoenix,
I
just
want
to
put
on
the
table.
Can
you.
J
I'm
sorry
vette
williams,
clark
county
black
caucus.
I
just
want
to
remind
the
committee
as
well
that
when,
when,
when
folks,
when
nevadans
lose
their
job,
it
puts
an
additional
strain
on
public
services
and
resources
that
are
available
in
the
community
and
and
folks
who
now
may
be
receiving
unemployment,
because
they've
lost
their
job
as
a
result
of
of
all
of
this,
now
are
applying
for
food
stamps
and
and
and
they've
lost
their
employment
insurance
coverage.
J
A
G
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
some
of
them
leaders
at
39
for
the
record.
I
I
was
listening
with
interest
and
I
think
assembly,
one
woman,
cohen's
question
and
your
answer
to
that
kind
of
touched
on
what
I
wanted
to
talk
about.
But
I'd
like
to
go
back.
Ms
mosley
said
that
this
is
happening
to
people
that
are
unable
to
pay.
G
Miss
turner
from
plan
said
that
this
was
only
happening
to
people
with
lack
of
resources
and
then
so
on
and
so
on.
I
don't
want
to
go
into
everything,
so
I
looked
it
up
and
I
looked
up
176.064
and
it
says
that
the
court
determines
that
the
defendant
has
the
ability
to
pay
the
amount
due
and
is
willfully
avoiding
the
payment.
G
So
I'm
wondering
is
this
happening
to
people
who,
what
are
the
consequences
going
to
be
here
and
aren't
we
taking
away
judicial
discretion
and
removing
from
our
third
branch
of
government
discretion
to
say
you
know
this
person
doesn't
have
the
ability
to
pay,
but
he
did
break
the
law
so
we'll
give
him
community
service
or
it
wasn't
that
bad.
G
I
Lisa
mosley
for
the
record,
assemblyman
wheeler.
Thank
you
for
the
question.
First
of
all,
and
we
are
sensitive
to
that
issue.
We
thought
about
that
and
again
what
we've
seen
what
the
research
shows
is
that,
when
barriers
are
taken
away,
when
people
are
able
to
pay
their
court
fines
and
fees,
they
do
the
data
from
from
other
jurisdictions
around
the
country.
Support
that
I
cited
california,
when
california
stopped
removing,
would
stop
suspending
driver's
licenses
for
unpaid
fines
and
fees.
They
saw
an
increase
in
revenue
of
8.9
percent.
I
That's
I
think,
that's
pretty
significant
and
people.
The
research
just
does
not
support
that
people
are
simply
scoff
laws
and
they
just
want
to
escape
the
law.
That's
I'm
not
going
to
pay
this,
it's
more
of
an
ability
to
pay
and
an
inability,
I
should
say
to
pay.
As
I
mentioned,
the
zip
codes
that
have
the
highest
numbers
of
of
citations
warrants,
and
once,
if
warrants
we
can
assume
driver
license,
suspensions
also
also
have
the
highest
rates
of
unemployment.
I
They
have
the
highest
rates
of
food
insecurity,
which
means
these
people
are
hungry,
which
means
they're
struggling.
They
also
have
the
lowest
median
incomes,
which
means
they
don't
have
the
income
to
pay
for
these
fines
and
fees,
but
they
it's
not
that
they're
unwilling.
Another
thing
that
I
would
also
like
to
point
out
is
in
past
efforts
in
our
own
city
of
las
vegas
and
probably
across
the
state.
We've
seen
amnesty
programs
where
jurisdictions
do
a
few
times
a
year.
I
Well,
if
people
have
outstanding
fines
and
fees,
they
can
come
in
on
a
particular
day,
they
can
get
their
court
fees
waived.
They
can
get
their
warrants
fees
waived
in
many
cases
and
we've
seen-
and
I
don't
I'm
sorry-
I
don't
have
any
absolute
numbers
on
this,
but
we've
seen
how
many
people
show
up
to
these
events
and
how
much
rep,
how
much
collection
rates
actually
go
up
when
people
are
able
to
pay
their
fees.
So
removing
this
driver
license
suspension.
I
Removing
these
barriers
makes
it
so
people
can
pay,
and
it's
not
that
people
don't
want
to
pay
and
we
keep
processing
it
through
that
lens
and
saying
people
just
simply
don't
want
to
pay
well.
The
research
doesn't
support
that.
It
supports
the
fact
that
people
simply
are
not
on
are
on
not
able
to
pay
because
they
don't
have
the
income.
G
Up
madame
voice
chair,
thank
you,
miss
mosley
yeah.
Thank
you
for
your
answer,
but
you
do
it
really
didn't
address
the
question.
Once
again,
you
say
that
the
people,
the
ability
to
pay
so
what
you
know
and-
and
I
understand
what
you're
saying
I
really
do-
but
what
I'm
saying
here
is
that
the
judge
should
take
that
into
account.
G
So
apparently,
what
you're
saying
to
me
is
judges,
don't
take
it
into
account,
so
we've
got
to
slap
them
down
and
make
sure
that
we
take
their
discretion
away,
even
though
they
may
be
an
elected
official,
and
they
you
know,
will
do
it
the
way
we
want
to
do
it.
I
Thank
you
for
your
question.
Lisa
lisa
mosley
for
the
record.
Thank
you
again,
assemblyman
wheeler.
It's
not
the
intention
of
this
bill
to
slap
down
anyone
as
of
not
2019.
I
There
was
legislation
that
mandated
that
courts
do
an
ability
to
pay
assessment
before
suspending
someone's
driver's
license.
Well,
the
data
that
we
have
received
from
the
dmv
in
nevada
shows
that
even
after
that
law
went
into
place,
we
would
think
that
driver's
license
as
a
result
of
this
law
driver
license,
suspensions
would
have
gone
down.
Courts
were
doing
an
ability
to
pay
assessment,
since
if
people
cannot
pay,
but
in
many
cases
assemblyman
wheeler,
we
saw
those
driver
license.
I
Suspension
rates
actually
go
up
versus
going
down,
and
I
don't
think
that
it's
because
judges
aren't
don't
want
to
do
the
assessment.
I
mean
they
have
a
lot
of
cases
on
their
dockets
and
it's,
I
think
it's
more.
We
need
some
uniformity
across
the
board.
That's
what
I
think
we
need
just
more
uniformity
and
the
way
these
processes
are
enacted-
and
that's
just
those
are
the
facts.
Again.
I
We've
seen
in
many
cases
those
drivers
license
suspensions
actually
go
up,
which
is
which
supports
the
fact
that
maybe
some
courts
are
not
doing
an
ability
to
pay
assessment.
L
I
believe
that
miss
moya
had
a
comment
to
make,
and
so
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
her.
I
think
it's
kind
of
in
response
to
maybe
some
of
your
questions.
L
K
Okay,
hello,
my
name
is
for
the
record.
I
would
like
to
say
that
I
have
never
actually
seen
a
judge
for
any
of
my
traffic
tickets.
K
K
K
If
I
could
see
somebody
about
my
ticket
and
she
told
me
no,
so
I'm
not
sure
if
my
experience
is
the
same
as
other
folks,
but
I
can
probably
stay
and
talk
for
myself
in
the
fact
that
this
process
isn't
being
done
correctly
and
a
lot
of
the
times
folks
show
up
to
these
warrant
quashing
clinics
and
end
up
pleading,
no
low,
not
not
understanding
what
it
means.
K
So
there's
a
lot
of
lack
of
access,
lack
of
education,
there's
a
true
power
dynamic
here
at
play,
where
they
just
assume
since
folks
are
not
educated,
that
they
won't
follow
up.
Thank
you.
G
Hey,
thank
you
miss
moya.
I
understand
what
you're
saying,
but
just
so
you
know,
I
believe
any
of
the
attorneys
on
this
panel
here
will
be
able
to
tell
you
that
you
can
demand
a
trial
for
that.
Also,
just
so
you
know,
there's
no
such
thing
as
police
quotas
doesn't
happen.
Thank
you.
L
Assemblyman
wheeler,
I
can
also
reach
out.
I
know
that
I
have
a
bill
that
I'm
also
working
on
in
this
kind
of
general
area,
and
I
can
I've
been
working
with
a
lot
of
the
counties
and
municipalities,
and
I
can
see
whether
or
not
they
can
pull
the
data
on
how
many
people,
as
well
as
the
court
system,
to
see
how
many
people
actually
appear
before
judges
and
also
kind
of
get
some
of
that
data
from
for
you.
That
would
be
helpful.
G
That
would
be
very
helpful,
meant
advice
chair.
Thank
you
very
much
I'd
love
to
see
how
many
actually
request
a
court
hearing
and
how
many
don't
and
how
many
that
request
actually
get.
One.
E
Thank
you
vice
chairwin,
and
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
E
I
you
know,
I
understand
what
our
presenters
are
saying
about
people's
inability
to
pay
a
finer
fee
and
how
that
really
can
cause
a
hardship
on
our
family
and
that
doesn't
seem
fair.
You
know
I
I
can
see
in
section
one.
You
know.
E
I
Of
their
driver's
license,
because
again
that
goes
to
the
building
and
that's
not
fair,
we
don't
want.
We
want
everyone
to
have
equal
justice.
E
M
L
I
don't
know
if
I'm
the
only
one,
but
I
believe
that
you're
having
some
audio
issues
assemblywomancrafter
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
have
broadcast
services
see
if
they
can
kind
of
correct
some
of
that,
and
then
I
will
travel
back
around
because
I
could
not
make
out
anything
that
you
just
said.
I
don't
know
if
anyone
else
had
that
same
problem,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
get
your
question
answered
so
broadcast
services.
If
we
can
help
assemblywoman
kraftner.
L
B
B
If
you
could
just
list,
you
may
have
it
on
top
of
your
head,
and
I
think
I
know
the
answer,
but
if
you
would
just
list
the
five
top
zip
codes
that
are
have
the
highest
number
of
warrants
and
fines
and
fees
if
you've
got
that
information.
I
I
Those
are,
I
won't
say,
coincidentally,
also
the
zip
codes
that
have
the
lowest
median
incomes.
Eight,
nine
one
zero
one
has
a
median
income
of
twenty
five
thousand
one
hundred
one
dollars:
eight
nine
one:
zero
six
has
a
median
income
of
thirty
thousand
four
hundred
forty
four
dollars:
eight
nine
one.
Zero
eight
has
a
median
income
of
eight
forty,
six
thousand
seven
hundred
fifty
nine
dollars.
I
B
Vice
chair,
if
I
may
follow
up,
please
please
go
ahead.
Thank
you
very
much,
miss
mosley
for
being
johnny
on
the
spot.
With
that
information,
three
of
those
zip
codes
are
partially
in
assembly
district
six.
B
This
is
a
real
issue
for
a
community
that
at
least
an
89106
which
encompasses
ward
5
in
las
vegas,
which
is
where
I
live
and
which
is
also
part
of
assembly.
District
6
has
been
experiencing
15
unemployment,
which
is
over
three
times
the
state
average
before
covid
four
years,
and
I
just
believe
that
this
legislation
brings
some
compassion
and
understanding
into
an
issue
that
our
community
has
experienced
for
a
long
time
whether
there
is
agreement
or
not.
B
I
live
in
a
community
that
I
see
with
my
own
two
eyes
that
is
heavily
policed
all
the
time
whether
there
are
quotas
that
are
actually
spoken
out
loud
to
the
public
or
are
internal,
we
see
a
significant
amount
of
policing
in
our
community,
and
I
think
that
that
is
part
of
the
reason
that
we
see
such
high
numbers
of
ticketing.
For,
for
these,
you
know
kinds
of
just
non-lethal
minor
traffic
infractions.
B
I
will
never
forget.
I
was
at
the
city
of
las
vegas
a
while
ago
to
do
to
attend
a
hearing
and
I'm
walking
back
to
my
car
and
the
police
is
our
ticketing,
a
car
that
is
parked
parked
in
a
paid
slot
at
city
hall.
The
young
lady
walks
out
with
her
children
to
her
vehicle-
and
I
said,
oh,
my
goodness
is
your-
is
your?
Is
your
your
your
meter
expired?
B
She
said.
No,
my
meter
is
not
expired.
My
insurance
or
my
tags
are
expired
on
her
car
non.
She
was
not
moving.
Her
car
was
parked
in
stationary,
but
she
was
still
given
a
ticket.
This
is
the
type
of,
and
that
was
in
zip
code
89101,
which
is
also
part
of
assembly
district
6..
So
we
have
to
be
honest.
B
If
we
choose
to
be
people
don't
have
to
be,
but
I
would
appreciate
if
people
were
honest
about
what
is
going
on
here,
honest
to
the
fact
that
these
communities
of
black
and
brown
people,
people
who
are
poor,
who
are
trying
to
find
work
who
are
struggling,
seem
to
be
the
target
they're
not
going
to
get
attorneys,
they
can't
afford
them.
B
So
that
is
why
they
are
except
going
to
the
window
to
try
and
get
help,
and
so
I'm
just
grateful
that
you
all
are
here
today
to
talk
about
this.
I'm
grateful
that
you
are
shining
light
on
a
truth
and
I'm
hopeful
that
the
assembly
and
the
senate
will
see
the
benefits
of
this
to
our
community
and
support
legislation
that
truly
helps
regular
working
people.
We
just
want
an
opportunity
to
live
in
peace
and
do
the
right
thing,
and-
and
thank
you
so
much
vice
chair
for
the
time.
L
E
Thank
you,
madam
vice
chair,
and
thank
you
for
this
presentation
today.
I'm
learning
a
lot,
so
my
questions
are
a
little
along
a
different
line.
If
you
could-
and
maybe
there's
too
many
to
like
list
them
all
but.
N
E
Could
just
give
me
some
examples.
I
know
you
mentioned
speeding,
running
a
stop
sign.
What
are
minor
traffic
violations
and,
like
I
said,
if
it's
you
know
a
lot
of
them,
you
don't
have
to
give
me
all
of
them,
but
just
some
examples
and
then
what
are
kind
of
like
the
average
fines
for
those
type
of
violations
and
then
I'd
have
a
follow-up.
That's
okay!.
D
Leslie
turner
for
the
record,
I
would
say
that
in
my
community
the
most
tickets
are
usually
for
things
that
involve
financial
resources,
such
as
failure
to
have
registration
failure
to
have
insurance
driving
without
a
driver's
license,
because
the
driver's
license
is
suspended
because
of
previous
tickets.
For
the
things
that
I
just
mentioned
so
driving
without
a
driver's
license.
That
ticket
is
400
plus
it
depends
on
how
many
times
you've
gotten
that
ticket
and
the
ticket
for
insurance
and
registration
is
eight
hundred
dollars
and
and
again
it.
D
It
goes
up
depending
on
how
many
times
you've
been
ticketed
for
that,
so
that,
if
you
get
it
pulled
over
and
you
don't
have
a
registration
and
your
license
is
suspended.
That
right.
There
can
be
1200
easy
that,
obviously,
a
person
from
one
of
the
poorest
districts
in
the
state
is
not
going
to
be
able
to
pay.
And
then,
if
you
get
on
a
payment
plan-
and
this
is
you
know,
every
jurisdiction
varies.
But
if
you
get
on
a
payment
plan
and
say
you're
paying
50
a
month-
and
you
don't
have
that
50.
D
That
month,
then
you're
at
risk
of
going
into
warrant
status,
and
then
that
is
how
people
end
up
in
jail
and
then
also
when
it
goes
into
a
warrant
status.
That's
also
an
additional
fine,
a
bench
warrant
fee
that
you
also
have
to
pay,
which
is
150
per
ticket.
D
So
if
you
in
one
kind
of
interaction,
you
can
get
three
tickets,
that's
150
dollars
per
ticket
because
it
went
into
bench
for
warrant
because
you
missed
the
payment
or
you
weren't
able
to
keep
up
with
your
payments,
and
so
it
creates
the
cycle
of
debt
that
people
just
cannot
get
out
of,
and
then
I
also
just
wanted
to
add
that
a
lot
of
the
times
these
are
not
moving
violations.
The
data
shows
that
these
are
kind
of.
L
For
an
assemblywoman
hardy,
just
a
follow-up,
they
are
laid
out
in
statute.
What
is
considered
minor
traffic
additionally,
what
I
think
ms
turner
was
referring
to
is
in
in
practice,
they're
called
like
fix-it
tickets.
Like
broken
tail
lights,
you
know:
failure
to
display
your
license
plate
appropriately,
those
type
of
things,
I'm
sure
you
have
assemblyman
o'neill,
who
might
be
able
to
give
you
some
more
information
about
that
as
well.
But
I
will
do
you
have
any
follow-up
questions
as
well.
I
believe
you
did.
E
Yeah,
just
one
and
yeah
thank
you
for
for
that,
because
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
get
an
idea
in
my
head
of
what
things
were
talking
about
and,
like
you
said
you
had
mentioned,
you
know,
obviously
it
doesn't
include
duis
and
things
like
that
and
more
serious.
I
just
want
to
get
an
idea
in
my
head
so
and
then
just
to
clarify
this
bill
would
remove
the
ability
to
suspend
for
infractions
like
that.
E
I
This
is
lisa
mosley
for
the
record
assemblywoman
hardy.
Thank
you.
I'm
gonna,
hopefully
answer
your
question.
What
we
hope
to
do
with
this
bill
is
not
neces,
not
remove
the
fines.
What
we
want
to
do
is
remove
the
ability
of
the
courts
to
suspend
we're
hoping
not
with
this
bill,
but
with
other
legislation
to
put
in
practice
a
civil
system
and
also,
let
me
point
out
that
people
who
have
tickets
can
get
on
a
payment
plan.
I
They
can
pay
these
tickets,
but
I
want
to
go
back
to
something
that
miss
turner
touched
on,
but
I
also
want
to
address.
I
want
to
try
to
address
your
your
first
question.
You
talked
about
what
were
some
of
the
violations
that
we
see
that
people
get
tickets
for
and
though
I
don't
have
the
fee
schedule
in
front
of
me,
I
think
ms
turner
did
a
decent
job,
a
good
job
of
laying
out
what
some
of
those
fines
look
like.
I
We'd
worked
with
some
unlv
students
in
their
sociology
department,
who
did
some
research
for
us
on
warrants,
and
I
again
this
is
not
a
warrants
bill,
but
it
stands
to
reason
that
if
people
have
warrants,
then
the
next
step
is
their
license.
Suspensions.
The
top
10
reasons
that
they
found
for
traffic
warrants
had
absolutely
nothing
to
do
with
public
safety
or
driving.
They
were
things
for
driving
without
a
valid
license.
I
15
15.7
percent
of
traffic
warns
issued
were
for
driving
without
a
ballot
license,
having
no
proof
of
insurance
driving
on
a
suspended
or
licensed
place.
I'm
driving
on
a
revoked
or
cancelled
license
an
unregistered
trailer.
If
you
can
believe
that
public
parking
expired
license
plates
no
driver's
license
in
possession,
and
so
also
when
someone
requests
a
payment
plan.
I
want
to
just
briefly
talk
about
some
of
the
fees
and
going
back
to
the
inability.
I
What
creates
the
inability
to
pay
in
many
cases,
when
someone
requests
a
payment
plan,
there
is
most
jurisdictions
charge
a
fee
to
initiate
a
payment
plan
and
the
data
that
we
have
received
from
some
jurisdictions.
The
fee
can
be
as
low
as
fifty
dollars.
It
can
be
as
much
as
a
hundred
dollars,
there's
also
a
fee
if
you,
as
ms
turner
mentioned,
going
into
warren
status.
I
If
you
want
to,
if
your
violations
go
into
warrant
status
before
you
can
pay
on
that
violation,
you
now
have
to
pay
warrant
fees
and
those
warrant
fees
range
anywhere
from
150
to
in
some
cases,
400,
and
so
before
you
can
pay
on
that
violation.
You
have
to
pay
those
warrant
fees.
So,
as
you
can
see,
this
is
what
creates
the
large
amount
of
debt
that
we
see.
It's
not
always
the
initial
violation,
it's
the
of
fees
and
assessments
and
also
there's
a
assessment.
I
That's
applied
to
traffic
violations
on
in
misdemeanors,
which
these
are
all
misdemeanors
by
the
way.
There's
an
assessment,
that's
fine!
So
when
you
start
stacking
up
all
of
these
fees
and
these
additional
charges,
then
you
see
it
creates
the
amount
of
debt,
and
once
somebody
gets
in
that
cycle,
it's
pretty
it's
it's
nearly
impossible
for
them
to
get
out
of,
and
so
I
hope
that
with
that
I've
answered
your
question.
I
know
I
said
a
lot,
but
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
to
you.
E
No,
I
I
appreciate
you
expanding
on
that
and
I
I
can
see
how
these
build
up.
You
know
and
it
gets
out
of
the
ability
to
pay.
So
you
know
I'd
be
interested
in
further
conversations
like
you
said
about.
You
know
how
do
we,
you
know
help
the
people
pay
the
fines
without
the
suspension,
and
you
know
they're
still,
you
know
their
ability
and
what
they
can
do
to
be
accountable
and
pay,
but
not
be
restricted
by
the
suspension
and
whatnot.
So,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
information.
L
Thank
you
and
I'd
encourage
all
of
our
members.
I
know
that
there's
substantial
research
that's
been
done
nationally
through
ncsl,
which
is
a
nonpartisan
organization
for
state
legislators,
so
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
them
as
well.
I
know
that
they
have
been
a
really
good
resources
for
providing
a
lot
of
this
reform
in
the
area
of
citations
and
civil
infractions
and
have
a
lot
of
it
so
there
next
I
will
try
to
go
with
assemblywoman
krasner,
I
believe
she's
on
the
phone.
So
at
least
we
have
some
good
audio
from
her.
E
M
Thank
you,
madam
vice
chair,
and
I
want
to
start
off.
I
I
appreciate
the
intent
and
I
really
appreciate
the
conversation
we're
having
assemblywoman
gonzalez
has
brought
forth
an
interesting
bill.
Look
at
the
discussion
that
is
brought
forth.
I
think
we
could
spend
quite
some
time
on
dealing
with
this,
but
if
I
may
miss
mostly
for
a
woman
that
was
nervous,
you
sure
don't
show
it.
I
do
not
want
to
play
poker
with
you,
but
help
me
understand
when
you
were
testifying.
You
said
that
fort
worth
require
or
does
does
not
have.
M
The
suspension
in
dallas
does
fort
worth
has
a
better
collection
rate.
Do
I
understand
that
texas
allows
the
localities
the
local
jurisdictions
to
decide
whether
to
what
program
they
want
to
go
with
is
first,
I'm
sort
of
laying
a
foundation,
because
I
have
another
question
depending
on
how
that
comes
out.
I
Lisa
mosley
for
the
record.
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Assemblyman
o'neill
and
it's
nice
to
meet
you
you're,
one
of
the
assembly,
members
that
I
haven't
had
the
opportunity
or
the
pleasure
of
meeting
texas
is
one
of
the
states
that
has
stopped
suspending
driver's
licenses
and
thank
you
for
that
question.
I
have
the
data
for
fort
worth
and
dallas
texas
and
I
said,
share
that
with
you
earlier.
If
you'd
like
me
to
repeat
it,
I
can.
I
I
Well,
what
so
for
there's
a
program
that
forward
uses
and
I'm
looking
for
the
the
one
of
the
million
tabs
that
I
have
open
with
that
with
that
data,
there's
a
program
that
dallas
uses
which
they
suspend
through
and
fort
worth
doesn't,
and
this
was
for
correct.
This
is
for
the
year
immediately
following
the
implementation
of
this
law.
So
this
may
have
been
some
data
from
before
that.
I
So
I'm
sorry
mister
assembly,
I'm
getting
a
little
nervous.
I'm
trying
to
find
this
day
over
here
like
please.
M
M
Yes,
so
what
incentivized
those
individuals
it
just
can't
be
that
I
had
a
job
because
you
said
during
amnesty
days:
people
come
in
and
pay
so
they
know
that
they
have
to
pay
I'm
trying
to
learn.
What's
the
incentive,
if
you're
not
going
to
lose
your
license,
if
there's
no
penalty
or
no
no
detractor
attached
to
not
paying
the
fines
as
much
as
I
like
to
believe
in
the
goodness
of
people,
I
find
it
difficult
to
believe
that
they
go
ahead
and
pay
their
fines.
M
Maybe
we
should
also
look
at
requiring
or
tightening
up
the
requirement
of
the
of
the
amnes
or
the
partial
payment
or
the
payment
plan
program
and
requiring
the
courts
be
more
attentive
to
that
before
we
go
to
suspension.
So
I
I
know
it's
a
confusing
question.
I
I
need
what's
the
incentive,
what's
the
carrot
and
stick
here,
and
could
it
actually
just
be
by
forcing
the
courts
to
be
more
attentive
to
the
income
of
the
party
and
instituting
payment.
I
Lisa
mosley
for
the
record
assemblyman
o'neill
again.
Thank
you
for
the
question.
I
appreciate
the
dialogue
with
you.
I'm
going
to
use
a
phrase
that
we've
used
many
years
many
times
over
the
years
that
the
numbers
don't
lie,
and
we
have
the
research
shows,
as
I've
mentioned,
that
when
barriers
are
removed,
people
want
to
pay.
We
have
processed
this
through
the
lens
of
people's
unwillingness
to
pay.
I
We,
as
I
said
earlier,
it's
premised
on
the
belief
that
people
just
don't
want
to
play
that
somehow
they're
scoff
laws
and
they
just
want
to
escape
the
system,
but
the
data
simply
does
not
support
that,
and
perhaps
it's
us
in
our
thinking
and
having
to
rethink
how
we
look
at
this
issue.
The
data
does
support
that
people
want
to
pay.
California
has
seen
an
increase,
phoenix
has
seen
an
increase
in
their
in
their
collection
rates
and
though
this
is
not
related
to
driver
license
suspensions.
I
I
want
to
highlight
our
city
of
carson
city,
carson
city
stopped
issuing
warrants
for
drivers
for
unpaid
fines
and
fees
in
2019,
since
they
implemented
that
this
is
not
suspended.
This
is
warrants
since
they
implemented
that
carson
city
has
seen
an
increase
in
collections
of
revenue
assessed
versus,
what's
collected,
of
8.5
on
average
per
month.
So
it
also
stands
the
reason
that
if
people
aren't
getting
warrants,
then
they're
they're
they're
not
getting
suspended,
people
do
want
to
pay.
I
We
see
that
with
the
warrants
program,
I'm
sorry
the
amnesty
programs,
the
warrant-washing
programs
that
we've
seen
we
see
that
in
the
data
people
do
want
to
pay.
We
we
think
that
people
simply
don't
want
to
pay
their
their
fines
fees,
but
I
don't
believe
that's
the
case
and
assemblyman
o'neill.
I
do
believe
in
the
goodness
of
people.
I
do
believe
that
people
are
good
or
responsible.
I
It's
the
premise
of
our
country.
We
we
raise
our
children
to
be
responsible
and
take
responsibility
for
their
actions.
This
is
what
this
country
is
built
on,
so
I
do
believe
in
the
goodness
of
people,
and
I
believe
that,
without
these
barriers
in
place,
people
will
want
to
pay
their
fines
and
fees
because
they
want
to
take
responsibility
and
contribute
to
their
society.
So
I
do
believe
in
that.
M
I
agree
I
like
to
believe
in
the
goodness
of
people,
but
I'm
still
having
trouble
with
the
carrying
stick.
How
did
they
incentivize?
So
I
appreciate
your
time.
I
will
contact
carson
as
since
it's
a
local
jurisdiction.
I've
talked
to
the
judges,
also
the
da's,
yes,
where
they
feel
that
there
needs
to
be
no
stick
on
this.
I
Let
me
lisa
mosley
again
for
the
record
assemblyman
o'neill.
Let
me
try
to
answer
what
what
is
what
we
are
seeing
is
that
when
the
courts
have
stopped
spending
licenses
when
they
take
away
or
waive
in
many
cases,
the
additional
fees
and
people
can
just
pay
on
their
fine
that
they
pay
it.
The
research
shows
that
that's
those
are
facts.
The
research
simply
shows
that.
So
perhaps
we
don't
really
need
a
stick
or
a
carrot
for
people
to
pay.
I
We
believe
that
if
we
take
away
your
ability
to
drive
or
issue
a
warrant
or
something
like
that,
that's
going
to
force
you
to
pay
the
rep.
The
data
does
not
show
that,
in
fact,
what
it
shows
is
when
those
barriers
are
in
place,
courts
do
not
collect
the
revenue
that
they
have
assessed.
We
actually
find
the
fees
justice
center.
I
do
have
some
data
to
show
that
I
don't
have
it
in
front
of
me.
I
can
certainly
submit
it
to
the
committee.
I
If
you'd
like
to
look
at
it,
when
courts
have
warrants
when
they
have
suspensions
in
place,
it
limits
the
ability
of
people
who
have
been
assessed.
Fines
and
fees
to
pay
that's
a
fact.
I
have
that.
I
have
that
data
when
those
things
are
removed.
That
is
the
incentive
providing
a
way
for
people
to
be
able
to
pay
that
if
there
has
to
be
an
incentive,
that
would
be
it.
L
Miss
mostly
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
cut
you
off
here
because
I
know
we
have
at
least
one
more
question.
I
believe,
and
I'm
gonna
ask
assemblyman
o'neill
to
kind
of
follow
up
online
offline
and
if
there
are
some
additional
like
documentation
and
research,
I
know
we
could
be
here
forever
talking
about
this
and
I'm
glad
we're
having
this
conversation,
but
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we
get
to
everyone
and
then
we
get
to
our
public
comment
and
testimony
and
support
opposition
and
neutral
on
the
bill.
L
So
I
believe
next
we
have
assembly
woman
hanson,
I
don't
know
if
she
has
her
question
ready
to
go
or
if
she
wants
to
take
it
offline.
E
Thank
you,
madam
vice
chair.
Actually
some
of
my
questions
were
answered,
but
I
just
and
I've.
I
really
appreciate
the
presentation
and
the
sunday
woman
gonzalez
my
first
time
you
you
put
me
to
shame,
you
were
so
polished
and
and
did
a
great
job
and
all
of
you
presenters.
I
know
this
is
nerve-wracking
for
for
for
you
and
for
all
of
us,
especially
in
this
virtual
space.
E
E
E
I
have
38
000
square
miles
in
my
district,
I've
been
pulled
over
numerous
times
and
those
fees
are
high.
But
what
really
concerned
me
was
that
when
we
talked
about
some
of
the
most
common,
the
registration,
the
insurance,
the
no
driver's
license,
it's
almost
as
if
there's
a
racking
of
fees
that
that
worries
me
and
perhaps
there's
room
to
visit,
not
maybe
not
in
this
bill,
but
in
the
future,
do
we
figure
out
a
way
that
these
fees
are
not
so
exorbitantly
high?
E
Because
I
can
see
how
this
would
be
very
discouraging,
particularly
in
the
economic
you
know,
median
incomes
we've
been
talking
about
so
actually
a
lot
of
this
is
a
comment,
but
let
me
dial
it
in
clarify:
community
service
is
an
option
can't
pay
now
and
also,
if
they're,
on
a
payment
plan.
Does
the
suspension
stop
if
they
are
current
with
the
payment
plan.
I
Lisa
mosley
for
the
record
community
service,
as
is
an
option
and
in
2019
ab434.
I
believe
it
was
put
in
place
two
things.
One
was
the
ability
to
pay
assessment
that
courts
are
supposed
to
use
to
determine
a
defendant's
ability
to
pay
and
also
the
option
to
perform
community
service
in
lieu
of
paying
cash
for
their
fines
and
fees.
I
One
of
the
what
we
have
seen
again
is
that
there
have.
We
don't
know
if
there's
uniformity
across
the
state
in
in
all
of
the
jurisdictions,
in
applying
that
law,
we
don't
know,
we
don't
have
any
data
to
show
that
courts
are
uniformly
applying
this
community
service,
and
we
do
know
that
some
courts
are
offering
community
service
initially,
for
instance,
I
reference
las
vegas
justice
court
from
what
I
understand
from
las
vegas
justice
court.
I
When
someone
comes
before
their
to
their
window,
as
ms
moya
mentioned,
they
don't
always
go
before
jesuit
when
they
go
to
the
window.
The
first
question,
as
I
understand
las
vegas
justice
court
asked
them:
are
they
able
to
pay
their
fines
and
fees
if
they
say
no
they're
asked
if
they'd
like
to
do
community
service?
That's
a
shining
example.
We
don't
know
if
that
standard
is
being
applied
across
the
board.
We
have.
We
finds
and
fees
justice
center
has
submitted
language
and
for
legislation
that
would
make
payment
plans
uniform.
I
It
would
waive
some
of
the
initiation
feedboard
payment
plan
and
we've
also
asked
about
community
service.
I
will
highlight
again:
texas,
texas,
has
put
in
place
a
model
of
community
service.
That,
I
think,
is
something
we
could
look
at
implementing
here
in
the
state.
What
texas
has
done
is
they've
expanded,
the
definition
of
what
qualifies
as
community
service,
for
example,
if
someone
who
has
been
assessed,
fines
and
fees
is
already
volunteering
at
their
child's
school
or
if
they
may
already
be
in
a
particular
court
order
program.
E
You
did,
and
I
was
all
over
the
place-
lots
of
information
appreciate
your
expertise
and
thank
you,
madam
vice
chair,
for
the
indulgence.
L
No
problem,
I
know
that
we've
had
a
broad
discussion
about
this
and
I
I
think
it's
needed
and
I
think
it's
necessary
again
for
the
members
of
the
committee.
If
you
have
any
other
follow-up
questions,
miss
mosley,
assemblywoman,
gonzalez,
ms
turner
and
miss
moya,
I'm
sure
would
be
able
to
do
that.
So
we
are
going
to
move
on
to
testimony
in
support
opposition
and
neutral
of
assembly
bill
151,
I'm
going
to
remind
everyone
that
to
clearly
state
and
spell
your
name.
Please
limit
your
testimony
to
two
minutes.
L
We
will
be
timing,
each
speaker
to
ensure
that
everyone
is
given
a
fair
opportunity
to
speak.
I
can
see
here
we
have
quite
a
few
callers
on
the
line
prepared
to
testify,
so
I
would
do
that.
Please
feel
free.
If
you
hear
someone
say
what
you
have
to
say,
saying
ditto
or
same
you
know,
I
agree
with
the
previous
caller
is
perfectly
fine
and
if
you
have
additional
testimony
that
you
want
to
provide,
you
have
within,
I
believe,
48
hours
of
the
close
of
this
hearing
to
present
that
testimony
so
broadcast
services.
L
If
we
can
turn
go
to
our
callers
in
support
of
assembly,
bill
151.
C
O
My
name
is
ashley
a-s-h-l-e-y
white
w-h-I-t-e
good
morning.
My
name
is
ashley.
I'm
here
to
support
ab151.
I
believe
this
bill
would
be
beneficial
in
many
ways.
Some
individuals
are
already
out
here,
struggling
with
a
job
in
just
everyday
life.
A
simple
traffic
violation
is
not
a
reason
to
go
to
jail
to
practice.
Criminalization
of
poverty
seems
to
be
extreme
and
unfair.
O
I
know
personally,
I
have
times
that
I
have
struggled
with
life
due
to
lack
of
employment
and
especially
with
cold
at
19
right
now,
but
to
think
that,
due
to
a
suspended
license,
I
could
lose
all
of
my
degrees
and
licenses
along
with
my
career,
then
go
to
jail
to
lose
my
kids
and
now
have
a
criminal
record
is
very
scary.
I
have
worked
very
hard
to
be
able
to
provide
the
life
my
children
and
I
have,
along
with
many
other
individuals.
O
This
situation
could
happen
to
any
of
us
at
any
given
time.
My
mother
was
personally
impacted.
She
got
a
parking
ticket
and,
at
a
time,
was
unable
to
pay
due
to
being
unemployed
and
was
given
the
opportunity
for
community
service
and
completed
it
went
back
to
court
and
was
told
she
did
at
the
wrong
place.
O
Even
though
that's
where
the
court
had
sent
her,
the
judge
asked
her
if
she
was
able
to
pay-
and
she
said
no,
because
she
was
still
employed
and
the
judge
sent
her
right
to
jail
for
the
first
time
in
her
life.
She
has
been
very
mentally
impacted
behind
that.
I
think
passing
a
b
151
would
relieve
a
lot
of
worry
fear
and
stress
from
individuals.
I
would
also
it
would
also
make
things
a
lot
more
effective
and
successful.
Instead
of
destroying
life,
let
us
help
individuals
that
really
need
the
help.
C
F
Hello-
and
thank
you
second
time
was
the
charm
there.
Thank
you
vice
chairwinning
committee
members.
This
is
nick
chipek.
F
N-I-C-K-S-H-E-P-A-C-K
policy
and
program
associate
with
the
aclu
of
nevada.
We
stand
in
strong
support
of
ab151
and
thank
assemblywoman
gonzalez
for
bringing
forth
this
fantastic
piece
of
legislation.
The
number
of
people
impacted
by
debt
based
driver's
license
suspension
in
the
state
between
2017
and
2019
fares.
Repeating
it's
more
than
38
000
research
shows
that
on
average,
40
percent
of
people
who
face
licensed
suspension
lose
their
job.
This
criminalization
of
poverty
must
end
in
the
state.
The
pandemic
has
only
exacerbated
these
issues,
with
hundreds
of
thousands
of
jobs
being
lost
either
permanently
or
temporary.
F
Throughout
the
state,
people
have
been
forced
to
search
for
work
further
and
further
from
home.
Our
public
transportation
systems
in
the
state
leave
much
to
be
desired.
Buses
do
not
always
arrive
on
time
or
stop
where
people
live
or
need
to
go.
Add
to
that
the
fear
and
danger
of
contracting
covid
in
closed
confined
spaces.
Public
transportation
can
also
be
dangerous
for
vulnerable
individuals
who
often
have
to
ride
home
alone
at
dark
after
work
as
rent
and
home
prices.
F
Skyrocket
in
much
nevada
commuting
to
work
has
become
much
more
common
practice
in
assembly
district
39,
where
my
parents
live
and
work.
Many
minority,
low-wage
casino
and
hospitality
workers
commute
from
the
valleys
to
the
lake
five
or
more
days
a
week.
They
have
seen
their
hours
cut
and
have
been
placed
in
situations
where
they
may
have
to
choose
between
paying
minor
traffic
tickets
and
putting
food
on
the
table
or
keeping
the
lights
on.
A
lack
of
financial
resources
should
not
be
a
barrier
to
maintaining
work.
This
is
also
a
public
safety
issue.
F
F
I
was
incarcerated
for
a
hundred
days
because
of
a
suspended
driver's
license,
which
happened
because
I
was
shot
in
the
neighborhood
that
I
lived
in
and
I
was
in
a
cast
and
it
went
into
warrant.
I
had
proof
verifiable,
but
because
it
went
into
a
warrant,
it
accrued
more
fees.
F
K
F
So
therefore,
it
would
behoove
all
of
us
to
revisit
and
look
at
these
laws
through
a
different
lens
and
stop
preventing
people
to
elevate
when
they
desire
to
work
and
do
other
things
which
warrants
and
fines
will
prevent.
If
we
just
don't,
have
it
clearly
state
it
and
again
we're
nevada,
strong
we're
battle
born.
We
can
do
better,
and
with
that
I
close.
Thank
you.
F
F
I
want
to
show
my
support
because
I
believe
this
bill
would
be
greatly
beneficial
to
to
to
many
people,
especially
people
with
disabilities,
because
because
already
it's
in
the
city,
it's
already
hard
to
navigate
with
public
transportation,
especially
with
the
pub
with
the
public
city
bus
and
also
with
the
rtc
bus
as
well
with
the
rtc
and
city
bus.
F
It
can
be
quite
costly
and
if
they
don't
have,
and
if
they
can't
rely
on
someone
with
a
driver's
license,
then
then
it
they
couldn't
really
navigate
anywhere
and
and
also,
and
also
with
that
they
can
like
lose
many.
They
could
lose
access
to
many
things,
such
as
their
their
their
prescriptions
or
prescriptions
or
doctor
visits
or
or
many
things
like
that,
and
so
so
I'm
hoping
I'm
hoping
this
bill
gets
passed
and
and
I'm
hoping
that
this
will
be
fixing.
Thank
you
all.
C
P
Hello,
my
name
is
jody
j-o-d-I
hawking
h-o-c-k-I-n-g
good
morning
assembly
members,
as
you
know,
I'm
the
founder
of
return,
strong
families
united
for
justice,
but
today,
I'm
here
to
speak
from
a
more
personal
perspective,
one
that's
extremely
uncomfortable.
What
needs
to
be
said.
15
years
ago
I
was
a
single
mom.
Raising
two
kids
on
my
own
and
struggling
to
maintain
was
in
the
during
the
recession.
P
P
P
We
called
it
the
death
trap
actually,
but
I
didn't
have
any
other
choice
when
you're
living
with
your
back
against
the
wall.
Sometimes
you
make
decisions
out
of
survival
that
you
wouldn't
make.
If
you
had
actual
choices
there
was
no
public
transportation.
It
was
a
45
minute
drive
to
my
job.
There
were
no
closer
jobs
and
I
couldn't
pay
rent
or
feed
my
kids
without
it.
Ultimately,
all
of
the
problems
led
to
the
suspension
of
my
driver's
license
and
consequently,
my
insurance.
Yet
I
had
no
choice
but
to
continue
to
drive.
P
Often
I
heard
people
say
you
had
a
choice,
but
sometimes
there
really
just
aren't.
I
didn't
need
a
carrot
or
a
stick.
I
only
needed
to
be
able
to
have
the
financial
resources
to
pay
the
tickets
and
repairs
in
order
to
be
able
to
keep
the
car
functioning
legally.
I
want
to
take
this
one
step.
Further.
I'm
white
driving
with
a
suspended
license
and
no
insurance
or
registration
eventually
did
lead
to
me
being
pulled
over
one
night.
My
story
is
very
different
than
the
others
who
have
told
their
story.
P
The
officer
did
give
me
a
ticket
and
told
the
car,
but
he
also
gave
me
a
ride
home
when
I
wrote
the
courts,
because
I
knew
how
to
use
the
system
the
tickets
were
dropped.
I
never
paid
a
penny
and
my
license
was
the
suspension
was
ended.
That's
white
privilege:
if
I
had
been
black
or
brown,
I
would
have
gone
to
jail
or
worse.
P
Second,
no
one
should
be
worrying
about
warrants
or
jail
over
license
suspension
over
fees
that
they
can't
pay
and
third,
any
law
should
ensure
that
it's
fair
to
all
and
doesn't
provide
opportunity
for
white
and
or
wealthy
people
to
have
a
different
level
or
access
to
justice
by
their
natural
born
privilege,
while
black
brown
and
poor
people
literally
can
give
their
lives
and
freedom
for
it
assembly.
Member
o'neill,
you
made
a
comment
earlier
about
not
believing
in
the
goodness
of
people
wanting
to
pay,
I'm
going
to
assume
something
different.
P
C
F
Hi,
jim
hoffman
nevada
attorneys
for
criminal
justice.
We
support
this
bill
for
the
reasons
that
many
other
people
have
already
given.
We
think
it's
great.
I
just
wanted
to
address
specifically
assemblyman
o'neill's
question
about
carrots
and
sticks.
F
I
think
there
is
a
stick
in
the
law
already.
The
stick
is
that
if
you
don't
pay
your
fines,
it
goes
into
collections,
so
you
have
debt
collectors,
calling
you
and
hounding
you
and
annoying
you
and
then,
if
you
don't
pay
for
a
long
enough
time,
it
gets
turned
into
a
sizzle
judgment
and
the
civil
judgment
goes
on
your
credit
record
and
then
it's
harder
for
you
to
rent
an
apartment
or
get
a
car
loan
or
all
this
other
stuff.
F
C
P
B-E-R-T-S-C-H-Y
good
morning,
madame
vice-chair
and
members
of
the
assembly
judiciary
committee,
I'm
with
the
washoe
county
public
defender's
office,
and
we
support
ab-151,
because
it
is
one
step
towards
ending
the
criminalization
of
poverty.
Suspending
licenses
to
punish
someone's
unability
to
pay
signs
and
fees
is
counterproductive
and
leads
to
costly
consequences
for
nevada
citizens.
P
Some
courts
will
issue
a
warrant
first
and
suspend
the
license
first
and
then,
after
that,
person
is
arrested,
they
will
hold
a
hearing.
It
is
heartbreaking
and
frustrating
when
we
have
to
meet
a
new
client,
a
community
member
at
jail
in
custody,
because
they
were
simply
trying
to
drive
to
work
and
earn
a
living
for
their
family.
P
They
wanted
to
pay
their
fines
and
fees,
but
the
fees
just
kept
increasing
and
they
had
to
make
that
difficult
decision
as
whether
to
use
their
limited
resources,
the
paycheck
that
they
earned
on
housing
on
keeping
a
roof
over
their
heads
foods
in
their
family's
mouths
or
to
pay
their
fine.
Unfortunately,
the
choice
they
made
was
to
protect
themselves
and
their
family
suspension,
isn't
an
option
to
threaten
people
that
works.
The
data
shows
that
it's
ineffective
and
rather
has
that
crippling
effect
on
our
community
members,
which
keeps
them
from
engaging
with
the
court.
P
C
F
F
Women,
handsome
the
fines
and
fees
are
pretty
outrageous
in
rage
and
range
in
the
thousands
of
dollars,
especially
in
municipal
courts,
which
largely
go
on
check,
making
it
very
difficult
for
people
to
pay
and
eventually
entering
into
a
cycle
where
they
get
arrested,
lose
their
job,
lose
their
housing
all
over
a
traffic
ticket,
and
I
don't
think
we
want
that
for
nevada
and
then
responding
to
assemblyman
wheeler.
This
bill
does
not
remove
discretion
from
judges.
F
L
Thank
you,
mr
apparel.
If
we
can
go
to
our
next
testimony
in
support.
C
To
testify
in
support
of
bill
151,
please
state
and
spell
your
name
now
for
the
record.
You
will
have
two
minutes
and
may.
C
N
Everybody
sorry,
I
have
the
same
issues.
Second
time
is
the
winner.
My
name
is
maria
nieto
orton
spelled
n-I-e-t-o
space
o-r-t-a,
and
I
am
the
nevada
state
coordinator
for
my
family.
My
family
is
the
national
civic
engagement
organization
that
unites
latino,
immigrant
and
allied
communities
to
promote
social
and
economic
justice.
The
familiavota
supports
ab161
and
supports
the
end
driver's
license
suspension
for
minor
unpaid
traffic
signs
fees
and
assessments.
Black
and
brown
communities
are
more
likely
to
get
their
license
suspended
due
to
unpaid
fines
and
fees.
N
This
causes
a
bigger
issue
in
being
able
to
survive
and
continue
feeding
their
family
and
loved
ones.
We
need
to
ensure
this
is
this
ongoing
issue
stops
and
it
should
not
have
taken
an
unprecedented
pandemic
to
shine
an
even
harsher
light
on
already
presented
issues.
The
impacted
people
have
to
choose
between
driving,
to
work
or
not
being
able
to
drive
and
lose
their
job
and
financial
support,
meaning
they
can
no
longer
pay
that
fee.
This
bill
can
help
alleviate
any
an
inequality
that
is
currently
in
our
criminal
legal
system
in
nevada.
L
Yeah,
thank
you
committee.
I
know
that
assemblywoman
krasner
was
having
some
great
difficulty
with
her
her
tech
in
her
office,
so
she's
actually
here
so
I
have
a
visitor
here.
So
I
know
she
has
a
question
and
I
do
want
to
make
sure
she
has
the
opportunity
to
do
it.
So
I'm
going
to
turn
that
over
to
her
to
ask
her
question.
L
L
So
you
know
I
was
listening
to
the
presenter
and
ms
mosley,
ms
williams,
and,
and
I
am
very
sensitive
to
what
you're
saying
about
how
it's
not
right,
that
someone's
inability
to
pay
fees
or
fines
should
you
know,
cause
them
other
problems
in
their
life
losing
their
job,
and
I
certainly
believe
that
we
should
have
equal
justice
under
law,
regardless
if
you're,
rich
or
poor,
and
so
with
that
you
know
I
can
understand.
L
You
know
this
inability
to
pay
fines
and
fees
in
section
one
suspension,
no
longer
suspending
someone's
driver's
license
if
they
can't
pay
the
fines
or
fees
for
a
minor
traffic
offense.
I
I
agree
with
that
and
even
section
three
that
provides
that
the
the
dmv
can't
charge
a
fee
for
reinstatement
of
that
driver's
license,
because,
again,
that
goes
to
someone's
socioeconomic
ability
to
pay
or
not
pay,
and
that's
not
right,
equal
justice
under
law,
but
section
two
somebody's
failure
to
appear
in
court:
how?
L
I
Lisa
mosley
for
the
record.
Thank
you,
assemblywoman
crasser.
I
will
hopefully
answer
your
question.
I
Many
of
the
jurisdictions
don't
distinguish
between
failure
to
pay
and
failure
to
appear
so
if
someone
doesn't
show
up
in
court
they've
automatically
deemed
as
a
failure
to
pay
and
so
we're
just
asking
that
whether
the
dmv
suspends
for
either
of
those
that
would
just
take
away
the
ability
to
suspend
for
either
of
those
in
the
failure
to
pay
or
the
failure
to
appear,
and
I'm
not
sure
how
that
relates
to
someone's
ability
to
pay
or
inability
to
pay.
L
Yes,
so
repeatedly,
you
and
the
other
presenters
have
made
it
clear
that
this
is
about
how
it's
not
fair,
that
if
somebody
can't
pay
a
finer
fee,
they
should
lose
their
driver's
license,
and
I
agree
with
that.
You
know
equal
justice
under
law,
regardless,
if
you're,
rich
or
poor.
That
is
our
system
of
justice
in
the
united
states,
but
in
section
two
it
it's
specifically
talking
about
someone's
failure
to
appear
in
court
and
so
do
we
do
we
want
to
have
no
penalty,
I
mean
don't.
H
L
As
a
society
to
encourage
people
to
appear
in
court
if
they're
supposed
to
and
that
doesn't
have
anything
to
do
with
paying
a
fee
or
a
fine
or
if
you're,
rich
or
poor,
it's
just
not
appearing
in
court,
so
I'm
just
not
sure
how
that
plays
in
and
again
I
I
did
say
I
agree
with
sections
one
and.
C
D
A
couple
of
things:
one
is
that
usually
people
don't
appear
in
court
because
can
you.
L
D
Your
name
for
the
record:
sorry,
leslie
turner,
usually
people
don't
appear
in
court
because,
like
in
relation
to
traffic
tickets,
because
they're
afraid
of
going
to
jail,
they're
afraid
of
getting
warrants,
and
they
know
they
don't
have
the
money.
Also.
D
The
system
like,
for
instance,
right
now,
if
you
go
into
the
municipal
system
online,
the
system
itself
does
not
differentiate
between
failure
to
pay
and
failure
to
appear
so
like
if
I
have
to
make
a
payment.
That's
due
on
the
12th
of
the
month
for
50
on
a
payment
plan
that
shows
in
the
system
as
like
a
court
date,
but
it's
actually
just
a
payment.
That's
due
that
day.
So
that's
another
point
and
then
also
we
have
to
look
at
the
people
who
are
impacted
by
this.
D
We
have
to
look
at
the
the
date
what
the
data
shows,
which
is
that
low-income
communities,
black
and
brown
people
are
the
ones
whose
licenses
are
being
suspended,
they're
the
ones
who
are
getting
these
traffic
warrants.
So
I
think
it's
just
really
important
that
we're
talking
to
those
people
and
we're
trying
to
figure
out
solutions
with
them
with
us.
D
I
guess
you
could
say
to
to
understand
the
problem
because
a
lot
of
people,
a
lot
of
folks
might
have
never
had
a
warrant,
might
have
never
had
their
license
suspended,
so
they
might
not
understand
the
process
and
how
you
get
like
stuck
in
that
cycle.
I
L
No
problem,
sorry
about
that
see.
We
have
to
be
flexible.
I
think
that
is
the
word
of
the
81st
session.
So
thank
you
for
taking
a
pause
and,
if
broadcast
services,
if
we
could
go
back
to
testimony
and
and
just
for
the
record,
we
started
support
testimony
at
10
30
and
we
ended
at
10.
I
believe
it
was
10
48.
C
L
Rourke
representing
the
city
of
henderson,
I'd
like
to
thank
assemblywoman
gonzalez
for
meeting
with
us
yesterday
to
talk
through
the
bill
and
hear
our
concerns.
We
are
not
opposed
to
the
concept
of
the
bill.
However,
there
are
several
offenses
included
under
the
definition
of
minor
traffic
offense
that
are
clearly
not
minor,
including
hit
and
run
reckless
driving
tampering
with
a
breath,
interlock
device
and
others
that
should
be
excluded
from
this
bill.
We
appreciate
that
these
were
not
intended
to
be
included.
L
N
C
F
We
understand
this
legislation
as
part
of
a
broader
and
very
important
discussion.
This
session,
the
city
of
las
vegas,
would
like
to
align
itself
with
the
comments
just
made
by
our
friends
and
colleagues
at
the
city
of
henderson,
and
we
wanted
to
go
on
the
record.
As
such,
we
look
forward
to
being
part
of
this
process
going
forward
with
the
sponsors
of
this
bill.
C
Madam
chair,
at
this
time,
we
do
not
have
any
callers
in
opposition
of
bill
151
at
this
time.
Okay,
if
we.
C
F
Great
thank
you,
sean
sever
for
the
record
from
the
dmv
hello
class,
chair
and
community
members.
I'd
like
to
thank
the
bill
sponsor
for
meeting
with
me
this
morning
on
this
bill.
F
F
However,
there
is
a
large
revenue
impact
to
the
dmb
with
this
bill
and,
as
many
of
you
have
seen
with
the
people
standing
outside
our
offices,
waiting
to
get
in
the
dmv
is
really
suffering
right
now,
particularly
with
our
revenue
due
to
the
to
the
pandemic.
F
We
are
making
budget
cuts
and
not
filling
positions,
but
we
are
willing
to
work
with
the
bill
sponsor
to
see.
If
there
are
ways
we
can
lessen
the
impact
to
the
dmv,
we
can
also
look
to
amba
aamda,
which
is
our
federal
agency,
that
all
state
dmvs
fall
under
to
see
how
other
states
are
dealing
with
this
issue.
So
we
look
forward
to
working
with
with
everyone
on
it
and
I
will
be
typing
up
my
testimony
and
sending
it
to
the
community
manager
to
help
them
out.
So
thank
you.
H
Assembly,
woman,
gonzales
assembly
district
16
for
the
record.
Thank
you
so
much.
I
personally
don't
have
any
closing
remarks,
but
I
know
my
presenters
have
brief
comments,
so
I'm
gonna
present
I'm
gonna
hand
it
over
to
them
and
then
we
can
wrap
up.
Thank
you
so
much
thank.
L
You
and
if
we
can
keep
it
brief,
I
know
that
we
have
floor
at
11
30,
so
I
want
to
give
our
members
enough
time
to
get
down
there.
Kindly
oh
and
welcoming
back
our
chair,
so
I
will
turn
the
meeting
back
over
to
him,
but
go
ahead
with
your
closing.
J
Okay,
thank
you
vice
chairwin.
I
just
wanted
to
also
reiterate
really
quickly
before
I
give.
My
brief
closing
statement
is
that
there
were
some
questions
about
the
suspension
and
whether
or
not
the
person
was
able
to
drive
or
was
reinstated
if
they
were
on
a
payment
plan
and
no,
they
do
not
so
until
the
the
fines
and
fees
are
paid
in
full.
They
do
not
restore
any
driving
privileges,
even
though
they
may
be
on
time
with
their
payment.
J
I
wanted
to
just
say
to
to
to
our
chair
and
committee
that,
following
the
the
promises
made
last
summer,
around
racial
justice
and
and
the
promise
that
systems
of
racial
injustice
would
be
addressed
this
session
and
dealt
with,
I
want
to
just
say
to
you
that
communities
most
impacted
are
holding
their
breath
right
now
during
this
session,
and
we
hope
that
at
the
end
of
the
session,
we
will
finally
be
able
to
exhale,
and
so
we
we
really
earnestly
ask
for
your
support
on
assembly
bill
151
and,
if
there's
any
reservations
at
all
or
anything,
preventing
you
from
from
voting,
giving
your
support
please
reach
out
to
our
sponsors
and
and
allow
them
the
opportunity
to
have
those
discussions
with
you
before
you
make
your
final
decision.
D
Leslie
turner
for
the
record,
I
just
want
to
thank
the
committee
and
also
in
particular
thank
assemblywoman
gonzalez
for
working
with
us
and
bringing
us
on
as
a
part
of
this
presentation
is
really
important.
D
Now
we're
centering
the
voices
of
those
impacted
by
this
and
again,
if
we
just
look
at
the
data,
if
we
look
at
the
people
whose
license
are
suspended,
the
people
who
are
in
warrant
status,
it's
black
and
brown
people,
it's
people
from
the
low
low
income,
zip
codes-
and
you
know
we
have
the
data
to
show
that,
and
so
I
think
we
have
to
include
those
people
in
coming
up
with
the
solution.
We
have
to
talk
to
those
people
and
ask
them
like
what's
gonna
help
you
take
care
of
this.
D
So
I
just
appreciate
everyone
on
this
call
and
thanks
for
having
us
on.
I
Board
lisa
mosley
for
the
record.
Again,
I
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
chair
yeager,
vice
chairwin
and
to
committee
members
for
your
questions,
your
very
thoughtful
questions
and
your
dialogue
on
this
issue.
I
I
want
to
thank
all
of
the
coalition
members
and
folks
who
called
in
support
and
even
those
who
called
in
in
opposition
or
in
neutral,
it
provokes
thought,
and
I
think
it
makes
us
all
think
about
how
we
look
at
these
laws,
how
we
think
about
how
why
we
actually
implement
these
laws
the
way
that
we
do
14
or
13
other
states
14.
Other
states
have
already
stopped
issuing
suspensions
for
unpaid
fines
and
fees.
Nevada
has
led
the
way
on
so
many
other
issues,
including
having
the
first
majority
female
legislature
around
the
country.
I
We
are
moving
in
directions
that
are
leading
other
other
states
and
I'm
hoping
that
nevada
will
be
adding
their
name
to
the
list
of
states
who
no
longer
use
this
harsh
and
unfair
practice
as
a
form
of
justice.
I
think
it's
high
time
that
we
find
other
ways
of
incentivizing
so
to
speak
or
find
other
ways
to
make
it
easier
for
people
to
be
able
to
live
every
day,
to
support
their
families
and
to
be
responsible
and
pay
their
fines
and
fees.
I
We
know
that
that
is
what
people
really
want
to
do,
and
so
I
thank
you
again
for
the
opportunity
to
present
this
bill.
I
look
forward
to
working
with
the
sponsor
and
also
particularly
the
dmv
on
how
we
can
work
on
providing
some
relief
and
taking
in
being
sensitive
to
the
revenue
loss
that
they
that
they
they
may
face.
I
don't
believe
it
is
as
extensive
as
it
is
as
it
is
has
been
presented.
I
Our
research
doesn't
support
that,
but
I
certainly
do
look
forward
to
having
conversations
with
the
department
of
motor
vehicles
and
our
sponsors
so
that
we
can
get
this
bill
passed
now
to
all
of
the
committee
members.
I
urge
you
to
pass
this
bill
out
of
committee
and
so
that
we
can
move
forward
and
get
this
legislation
passed.
Thank
you
again.
A
A
K
Yes,
this
is
yusef
for
the
record.
I
just
wanted
to
say
as
an
impacted
person
who
has
had
their
driver's
license
suspended.
I
have
lived
in
three
of
those
zip
codes
that
they
mentioned
earlier.
In
the
meeting
I
have
tried
payment
plans.
I
tried
community
service.
I
tried
to
see
a
judge.
I
tried
to
make
the
payments
and
I
ended
up
in
warren
status,
three
or
four
times
the
last
three
or
four
years
the
tickets
have
compounded,
I
paid
them
off
and
go
figure.
K
One
week
later
I
got
another
ticket
and
my
plates
were
taken
without
any
more
being
said.
I
really
hope
that
this
gets
passed
out
of
committee
and
that
you
are
willing
to
work
with
the
community,
as
this
is
a
serious
issue.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
miss
moya.
I
appreciate
that
so
now.
I
want
to
thank
the
five
of
you
for
presenting
and
thank
the
vice
chair
for
running
the
meeting.
In
my
absence,
they
didn't
treat
me
too
terribly
bad
over
in
government
affairs,
so
I
appreciate
it
and
I'll
definitely
go
back
and
watch
some
of
the
testimony
in
the
questions.
So
well
done.
Assemblywoman
gonzalez
for
your
first
bill
hearing
here
in
assembly,
judiciary
and
at
this
time
I'm
gonna
close
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
151.
A
I
hope
all
of
you
have
a
great
day
so
we're
going
to
go
to
our
next
agenda
item,
which
is
public
comment.
By
way
of
reminder,
we'll
have
up
to
30
minutes
of
public
comment.
Callers
on
the
line
will
have
up
to
two
minutes
to
provide
public
comment.
Bps.
Could
we
go
to
the
public
comment
line
and
see
if
there's
anybody
there
who
would
like
to
give
public
comment
this
morning.
C
C
N
A-N-N-E-M-A-R-I-E-G-R-A-N-T
sister
thomas
purdy,
who
was
killed
by
reno
police
and
washer
county
service
office.
Today,
I
would
like
to
tell
you
about
justin
morgan
thompson,
who
was
35
years
old
when
he
was
affixiated
to
death
by
washoe,
county
sheriff's
deputies,
kenneth
cameron,
randy,
randy
hill,
joe
hospital,
peter
mickel,
brad
and
stoppa
kim
peak
nicholas
tone
trevor
solano
and
paul
hubbell,
who
asphyxiated
my
brother
less
than
a
year
earlier,
dustin
had
only
marijuana
in
his
system
when
he
was
asphyxiated.
I'd
like
to
give
you
some
of
the
word,
the
the
communications
between
justin
and
the
deputies.
N
Why
are
you
doing
this
deputy
you're,
the
a-hole?
This
is
all
on
you.
You
asked
for
this
believe
me
by
your
actions.
You
asked
for
this.
This
is
where
we
are
and
we
are
not
going
to
de-escalate.
Maybe
you
should
rethink
your
decisions.
Deputies
have
deputies
and
had
a
brief
discussion
about
excited
delirium.
The
same
male
nurse
from
nafta
came
in
and
asked
ridiculous
questions
such
as.
Do
you
wear
contacts?
Do
you
have
allergies
at
rapid-fire
pace
to
a
man
who
clearly
was
in
need
of
medical
attention?
N
Then
six
steps
as
as
six
deputies
plus
were
on
top
of
the
destination
justin
answer
the
nurses
questions
that
they're
talking
to
dustin
begs
for
water,
the
female
deputy,
don't
f
and
touch
my
hands.
Dustin
tells
him
he
can't
breathe
nurse
asks
if
justin
feels
threatened
with
six
deputies
on
top
of
him.
He
replies.
What
do
you
think
female
deputies
squares
at
justin,
again,
justin
him
again,
he
can't
breathe
nurse
clears
destined
to
be
put
in
a
cell
justin
asked.
Can
they
please
let
up
a
bit
off
his
back?
N
No
justin
yells
for
help
deputy
nobody
is
going
to
help
you.
We
are
the
help
and,
as
I
stated
before,
we
are
not
going
to
step
down
until
you're
in
a
cell.
We
don't
why
we
don't
trust
you
justin
is
threatened
with
a
taser.
Deputies
are
repeatedly
led
by
him
on
his
stomach,
a
deputy
with
the
taser
kicks
justin.
What's
it
going
to
take
you
to
stop
being
stupid,
do
you
not
get
it?
We
own
you
right
now
and
we're
going
to
continue
to
own.
You
figure
it
out.
N
You
aren't
going
to
win
you
better
figure
it
out
my
arm.
Yeah
you
just
lost
that
arm
and
I
own
that
arm.
This
is
now
my
arm
and
every
time
you
try
to
squirm,
I'm
going
to
tune
it
up
a
notch,
we're
going
to
throw
you
in
a
style
and
you
can
act
stupid
by
yourself.
Justin
breathing
is
clearly
labor
and
he
struggled
for
almost
an
hour.
N
Six
deputies
then
put
him
in
the
south
face
down
and
he
is
smothered
to
death.
I
noticed
during
a
video,
there
was
one
african-american
deputy
who
the
whole
time
never
went
hands-on
with
justin
and
every
deputy
that
went
hands-on
with
justin
then
did
not
want
to
give
him
cpr.
Only
the
african-american
deputy
who
never
went
hands-on
immediately
attempted
cpr
on
justin.
Please
do
not
support
bills
that
promote
bad
police.
Please
support
bills
that
promote
transparency
and
accountability.
Thank
you.
A
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
bps
and
you
know
I
just
want
to
take
a
moment
before
I
close
public
comment
to
thank
our
broadcast
staff.
Who
really
makes
these
meetings
happen
without
them,
we
would
not
be
able
to
do
this
they're
sort
of
behind
the
scenes,
the
voice
of
god
they
make
these
meetings
happen,
and
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
bps
and
also
thank
you
to
our
committee
staff,
who
is
working
very
hard
behind
the
scenes.
A
A
A
We
have
a
bill
and
a
work
session,
so
we're
going
to
start
with
the
bill
at
8
o'clock
and
that
will
be
presented
by
vice
chair
wynn.
You
probably
have
seen
the
agenda.
We
do
have
a
number
number
of
work
session
bills.
We
will
make
sure
to
get
that
work
session
document
out
to
all
of
you
sometime
today.
A
So
please
take
a
look
at
that
and
if
you
have
concerns,
if
you
could
you're
not
required
to,
but
it
would
be
helpful
if
you
could
express
those
to
me
prior
to
the
work
session
tomorrow
morning
and
then
for
next
week.
What
I
can
tell
you
right
now
is
we're
not
going
to
have
a
meeting
on
monday
so
that
give
you
a
chance
to
to
rest
up
for
folks
from
southern
nevada.
A
I
would
say
you
could
maybe
fly
in
monday,
but
there
really
aren't
flights
available,
so
you'll
probably
just
be
here
sunday
night
and
have
a
little
bit
of
time
monday
to
catch
up
on
work.
I
expect
we'll
have
meetings
the
rest
of
the
week
next
week
and
the
most
likely
will
start
at
eight
o'clock,
but
we're
figuring
that
out
as
we
go
along.
So
that's
what
I
got
for
you
now
and
I
will
see
all
of
you
tomorrow
morning
at
eight
o'clock.
This
meeting
is
adjourned.