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A
C
E
A
Here
please
mark
assemblyman,
o'neill
absent
excuse
until
he
returns.
I
expect
him
to
be
back
with
us
shortly.
Everyone
else
is
present.
That
means
we
do
have
a
quorum
good
morning
to
members
good
morning
to
those
in
the
public
who
might
be
watching
us
either
on
the
legislature's
website
or
the
youtube
channel
and
welcome
to
day
40
of
the
81st
session
of
the
nevada
legislature.
That
means
we
are
now
one-third
of
the
way
through
session.
So
pat
yourself
on
the
back.
A
For
that
there's
a
lot
of
work
in
front
of
us,
but
there's
also
a
lot
behind
us.
So
before
we
get
started
with
this
morning's
agenda,
just
a
few
housekeeping
matters
for
anyone
on
the
zoom,
please
make
sure
you're
on
mute
unless
you're
speaking
that'll
help
with
the
audio
feedback
that
we
sometimes
get
and
for
presenters
who
are
on
the
zoom
with
us.
Please
remember
to
state
your
name
each
time
before
you
speak,
particularly
when
you're
asked
a
question.
A
That'll
also
help
with
the
minutes,
and
if
you
forget
to
do
that,
I'll,
try
to
remind
you
because
it's
not
normal,
we
do
expect
courtesy
and
respect
and
our
interactions
with
one
another.
We
don't
always
agree
on
policy
perfectly
okay,
but
we
need
to
make
sure
we're
being
respectful
of
one
another,
the
legislative
institution
as
well
as
our
hard-working
staff.
Finally,
many
of
the
members
will
be
using
multiple
devices
to
access
this
meeting:
laptops,
desktops
extra
monitors,
ipads,
iphones
and
the
like.
A
So
please
don't
see
it
as
a
sign
of
disrespect
if
members
appear
to
be
looking
away
during
the
meeting,
most
likely
they're
trying
to
access
exhibits
or
take
notes
on
what's
going
on
in
the
meeting,
it's
simply
the
virtual
world
that
we
live
in
with
those
housekeeping
matters
behind
us.
We'll
move
on
to
our
agenda
members
of
the
committee,
members
of
the
public.
Just
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
the
lay
of
the
land
we
are
going
to
take
the
bills
in
order
as
they
appear
on
the
agenda.
A
You'll
also
note
that
we
have
a
work
session,
we're
going
to
take
that
work
session,
either
after
the
first
or
second
bill
depending
on
timing,
and
so,
if
our
folks
who
are
on
the
zoom
for
the
work
session,
I
just
ask
you
for
your
patience,
we'll
try
to
get
to
the
work
session
as
quickly
as
you
can
as
we
can.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
have
all
members
present
and
able
to
vote
on
the
work
session
document.
A
So
at
this
time
I'm
going
to
open
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
212
assembly
bill
212
makes
various
changes
relating
to
court
interpreters
and
before
I
hand
the
presentation
over
I'll,
let
committee
members
and
members
of
the
public
know
there
is
an
amendment
that
you
can
find
up
on
nellis
for
this
bill.
So
my
guess
is
that
our
sponsor
will
cover
that
at
some
point
during
the
presentation.
But
I
want
to
welcome
to
the
assembly
judiciary
committee
for
the
first
time
this
session,
our
colleague
assemblywoman
nathan,
anderson
and
she's,
going
to
present
the
bill.
A
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
good
morning,
terry
yeager
vice
chair
nguyen
and
members
of
the
judiciary
committee.
It's
really
wonderful
to
be
presenting
my
first
bill
actually
to
to
such
a
wonderful
committee.
My
name
as
already
mentioned
is
nathan
anderson
and
it
is
my
honor
to
represent
assembly
district
30..
F
F
It
is
a
belief
too
many
of
our
individuals
when
they
are
appearing
in
the
court
do
not
always
have
the
same
language
access,
and
so
this
is
a
way
to
start
to
address
some
of
those
issues
in
2016
the
us
department
of
justice,
civil
rights
had
a
report
that
actually
has
many
different
elements
in
it,
and
it
was
about
all
of
the
different
different
court
systems.
Excuse
me
across
the
nation.
F
F
G
F
That
is
part
of
this
is
a
report
that
is
done
on
a
every
other
year
basis
that
the
courts
are
all
courts
are
expected
to
do,
which
is
called
the.
Let
me
make
sure
I've
got
the
right
words.
It
is
the
language
access
language
access
plan
and
every
other
year
the
courts
are
expected
to
turn
in
something
to
the
administrative
office
of
our
supreme
court
to
look
over
it
and
then
there's
a
committee
that
actually
studies
this
language.
F
Last
year,
the
committee
was
unable
to
meet
the
meet
that
because
of
povid,
as
well
as
the
fact
that
the
individuals
serving
on
it
are
volunteers
and
are
incredibly
overworked.
At
the
same
time,
we
have
to
do
something
to
make
sure
that
justice
for
all
is
truly
something
that
is
happening
instead
of
me
continuing.
F
Actually,
I
would
like
to
turn
it
over
to
two
individuals
who
have
been
very
intimate
with
this.
One
is
himana
chika,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
I'm
saying
the
name
correctly.
She
is
the
president
actually
of
the
association,
that's
bringing
this
forward
and
then
also
manuel
madreos
of
northern
nevada
international
center.
So
before
I
go
into
the
bill,
I
with
the
chairs
permission,
I
would
like
to
ask
those
two
individuals
just
to
quickly
go
into
their
experiences.
A
H
H
Good
morning
to
the
assembly,
the
chairman
and
and
the
president
of
the
assembly,
and
especially
to
assemblywoman
anderson
and
thank
you
special
thank
you
to
her
for
bringing
this
bill
forward
to
the
assembly.
On
our
behalf.
As
said
before,
my
name
is
ximena
chica.
I
am
currently
the
president
of
the
nevada,
interpreters
and
translators
association,
and
I
am
also
a
certified
court
interpreter
and
have
interpreted
in
court
for
two
years
now.
H
I
would
like
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
information
about
the
the
sort
of
the
real
life
and
day-to-day
of
the
situation
of
of
court
interpreters
and
their
relationship
to
this
bill
in
the
relationship
to
the
nevada,
administrative
office
of
the
courts.
So,
as
I
said,
I'm
a
court
interpreter
that
means
that
in
in
courts,
I
stand
next
to
a
person
of
limited
english
proficiency.
H
We
call
them
leps,
so
I'll,
stand
next
to
an
lep
and
make
sure
that
that
person
and
whisper
into
the
ear
of
that
person,
everything
that
is
going
on
around
them
in
the
courtroom
and
then
I
also
ensure
that
that
person
has
a
voice
within
the
courtroom
before
a
judge.
Sometimes
the
jury
not
often,
of
course,
a
jury,
but
sometimes
the
jury
and
the
other
party
etc,
and
that
that
person's
voice
is
heard.
H
H
H
It
could
be
on
many
occasions.
It
says
that
the
property
owner,
who
is
also
you,
know,
wrestling
to
to
keep
rights
over
over
their
property
business
owners
on
many
occasions,
but
it
is
also,
for
example,
people
who
are
being
brought
to
justice
for
a
crime
committed.
So
I
will
stand
on
occasion
next
to
a
murderer
or
a
drug
trafficker
or
a
rapist,
and
I
will
make
sure
that
that
person
understands
the
crime.
H
That
is
the
accusation,
that's
being
brought
against
them
the
process
that
goes
on
to
determine
their
punishment
for
that
crime
and
the
reasons
why
they
are
being
and
how
they
are
being
punished
for
the
crime
committed.
H
So
I
consider
that
our
position
within
the
court
is
is
very
important
and
it's
not
to
be
taken
lightly.
None
of
us
take
this
responsibility
lightly.
We
are
highly
trained
individuals.
It
is
necessary
that
we
be
trained,
tested
and
tried
that
we
go
through
many
hours
of
observation
and
there
is
a
system
that
is
established
so
that
we
can
do
this
to
give
a
little
bit
of
contextual
history
of
that
system.
In
the
year
2002
the
nevada
administrative
office
of
the
court
created
the
court.
H
The
certified
court
interpreters
program
right
where
we
receive
a
little
bit
of
training,
but
mostly
we
are
tested
and
certified
to
participate
in
the
system
or
in
languages
that
have
no
testing.
We
are
registered
to
participate
in
the
system.
This
is
for
languages
that
are
less
common,
for
example,
japanese
or
or
you
know,
languages
spoken
in
the
pacific
islands
or
you
know
a
lot
of
the
african
languages
like
like
erythrian
yeah,
which
ethiopian
and
so
on.
H
So
there
there
are
many
of
us
and
there
are
many
languages
and
so
there,
because
they
there
are
there's
an
immense
variety
of
languages
that
are
spoken
in
the
state
of
nevada
and
a
lot
of
the
people
who
are
limited
to
this
language
or
that
don't
all
together,
understand
english
or
have,
as
we
say,
limit
in
limited
english
proficiency,
go
before
the
courts
and
need
someone
like
us.
H
So,
as
I
was
saying
in
2002,
the
program
the
certified
court
interpreters
program
was
created
in
2013
was
the
first
attempt
of
the
language
access
committee
within
the
aoc
to
create
what
is
called
the
language
access
plan,
which
assemblywoman
anderson
just
referred
to
in
2016
was
the
report
so
three
hours
three
years
after
the
creation
of
the
language
access
plan,
was
the
the
doj's
report
in
which
the
state
of
nevada
did
very
very
poorly,
with
reference
to
the
actual
reality
of
language
access
within
its
courts
and
then
in
2019.
H
Due
to
the
the
this
poor
grading
in
the
doj
report
in
2019,
there
was
a
revamping
within
the
nevada
aoc
of
the
language
access
plan.
It
was,
it
was
improved
and
so
on.
It
was
tried
to
be
to
to
make
it
more
executable,
trying
to
give
people
of
limited
english
proficiency
more
access
to
us
and
give
us
more
access
to
them.
H
The
reason
why
we
wanted
to
put
forward
this
bill
at
this
moment,
however,
despite
the
already
existence
of
a
language
access
committee
within
the
aoc,
a
language
access
plan
that
has
been
worked
on
and
prevent
revamped,
is
that
I
they
we
have
no
access
as
interpreters.
We
have
no
access
to
this
committee
right,
so
all
of
the
decisions
that
are
made
regarding
austin
regarding
language
access
within
the
courts
disregard
the
the
presence
of
an
interpreter
there.
Who
is
the
person
who
has
direct
access
to
language
access
within
the
courts?
H
So
one
of
the
elements
that
we
are
requesting
in
this
bill
is
that
there
be
interpreters,
representing
interpreters,
court
interpreters
within
the
committee
that
makes
decisions
on
the
reality
of
language
access
within
the
courts.
H
A
Thank
you,
assemblywoman
anderson.
I
would
note
that
you
may
be
channeling
your
father
there
and
keeping
us
moving
along,
as
he
did
so
aptly
over
years,
sharing
this
judiciary
committee
so
miss
chica.
Thank
you
for
your
your
comments
and
we're
going
to
go
next
to
mr
medeiros
who's
on
the
zoom
with
us
as
well.
Sir.
If
you
could
please
state
your
name
and
provide
your
testimony,
would
appreciate
it.
I
Sure,
good
morning,
chair
and
members
of
the
assembly
committee
on
judiciary
for
the
record,
my
name
is
manuel
mederos
and
I'm
the
language
access
specialist
for
the
northern
nevada
international
center.
Before
I
provide
my
brief
comment,
I
wanted
to
thank
publicly
the
champion
behind
the
bill,
which
you
heard
her
name
assemblywoman
nathan
anderson.
Thank
you
assemblywoman
for
the
commitment
to
education,
community
and
language
access.
I
Ladies
and
gentlemen,
I
sit
virtually
in
front
of
you
to
support
bill
2,
1,
2
ab212.
This
bill
is
very
straightforward
and,
in
my
own
personal
opinion,
opinion
it
adds
even
more
even
more
diversity
to
the
commitment
that
advises
the
court
administrator,
in
particular
for
adding
a
committee
member
that
represents
a
language
other
than
spanish,
which
is
critical
since
we
are
now
living
in
a
global
economy
in
our
state.
I
In
addition,
ab212
allows
the
committee
to
celebrate
their
annual
accomplishments
and
feature
them
in
a
public
report
which,
in
turn
spotlights
their
hard
work,
spotlights
their
critical
work
spotlights
their
important
contributions.
And,
lastly,
the
the
report
spotlights
their
commitment
to
the
profession
of
interpretation,
language
access
and
our
limited
english
proficiency
individuals
in
our
state.
I
Very
briefly,
I
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
the
state
of
nevada
is
very
fortunate
to
have
court
interpreters,
which
are
trained
professionals
that
go
through
a
vigorous
process
to
become
fully
certified,
they're
required
to
do
so
and
and
provide
many
continuing
education
credits
to
their
professional
language
and
interpreting
skills
at
their
very
best
level.
They
wanted
to
do
that
so
that
they
can
keep
that
at
their
very
best
level.
All
these
professionals
love
the
art
of
interpreting
better,
yet
they
care,
protect
and
love
their
profession.
I
So
much
you
see,
I
speak
spanish
very
fluently.
However,
if
you
put
me
in
a
court
setting
it
is
I'm
not
a
try,
a
non-trained
interpreter,
I
will
fall
apart
and
do
not
know
what
I'm
supposed
to
be
doing
or
saying,
and
yes,
it
would
make
many.
I
would
make
many
many
mistakes
just
because
I
speak
the
language
that
does
not
make
me
a
trained
interpreter,
nor
a
competent
one.
I
No
no
limited
english
proficiency
person
deserves
an
individual
like
me
in
a
court
setting,
they
deserve
a
certified
court
interpreter
someone
who
lives
and
breeds
legal
terminology
every
single
day
because
they
live
and
the
and
and
their
freedom
actually
might
actually
depend
on
that.
A
core
interpreter
needs
to
possess,
not
only
a
deep
understanding
of
the
language
in
which
they
specialize,
but
also
a
high
level
of
knowledge
about
the
justice
system
and
criminal
procedures
and
legal
ethics.
I
In
closing,
I
wanted
to
thank
all
of
you
and
all
the
body
for
hearing
ab212.
I
hope
that
all
of
you
support
ab212.
Thank
you
so
much
for
this
opportunity
to
speak
in
front
of
you
and
for
allowing
me
to
spotlight
the
profession
of
interpretation
and
the
importance
of
our
limited
english
english
proficiency
persons
in
our
state.
I
appreciate
all
of
your
time
have
a
great
morning.
A
F
Well,
I
think
both
of
them
started
to
do
so.
So
that
was
great.
I
should
have
practiced
a
little
bit
more,
it's
true,
so
I'm
just
going
to
walk
through
the
amended
language
that
I
believe
all
of
you
should
have
received
both
yesterday
and
then
is
also
on
nellis,
as
cherry
yeager
had
mentioned.
This
is
just
one
more
step
in
how
we
continue,
though,
to
improve
the
the
ability
to
to
provide
the
language
access
for
other
individuals
number
one.
F
It
expands
the
number
of
individuals
on
the
advisory
committee
expands
it
by
two
there's
one,
the
individual
that
will
be
a
specialist
in
the
spanish
language
and
the
second
will
be
an
individual
who
is
not
in
the
spanish
language.
I
was
asked
yesterday
if
this
would
include
as
well.
I
believe
it
was
assembly.
F
Member
brown
may
who
asked
me
if
this
could
possibly
include
an
individual
who
was
an
interpreter
for
the
death,
and
I
said,
of
course
that
would
be
fine
as
well,
because
all
languages
should
be
represented,
and
that
is
considered
to
be
another
language
as
well.
So
that
is
the
first
thing
that
it
does
under
under
1.4.
F
Excuse
me
under
those
that
addition
on
the
original
language
I
had
submitted.
The
second
thing
it
does
is
it
clarifies
that
the
report
should
be
submitted
to
the
nevada
state
legislature,
in
addition
to
the
chief
justice
and
then
also
that
report
should
be
made
readily
available?
F
It
is
an
important
thing
for
us
to
also
get
it
here
in
the
legislature.
So
this
way
we
can
start
making
some
data
decisions
a
too
often
we
get
told
anecdotal
things.
This
would
allow
us
to
see
the
reports
that
are
coming
and
to
try
to
make
those
connections-
and
I
know
all
of
you
open
up
those
envelopes
every
month
and
read
every
single
report
you
receive,
but
this
will
be
an
email,
so
that
way,
it'll
be
easier
for
you
to
receive
those.
F
Possibly
I
think
the
other
thing
that
is
a
big
thing
is
what
exactly
will
be
in
that
report.
It
is
going
to
be
utilizing
the
language
access
plan,
as
was
mentioned
by
ms
chica,
the
latest
one
that
is
on
the
website,
is
from
2013..
F
Yet
we
know
that
or
based
upon
information
from
a
recently
termed
out
member
of
this
committee.
There
is
a
more
updated
plan,
but
we
don't
know
what
that
plan
is,
and
so
we
would
like
to
have
that
also
readily
available.
I
do
have
a
copy
of
the
arena,
reno
justice
sports
report.
If
this
committee
would
like
me
to
submit
it
to
you
more
than
happy
to
do
that,
so
this
way
you
can
see
what
exactly
is
on
that
report.
F
There
are
numerous
elements
it
includes.
It
could
include
the
number
of
individuals
that
have
been
asked
to
actually
be
interpreters.
What
services
were
provided?
Number
of
you
know
languages
that
are
being
utilized,
so
we
can
start
to
zero
in
on.
Are
we?
Are
we
really
giving
the
best,
or
do
we
have
enough
people
in
this
field
right
now?
Finally,
it
does
ask
for
a
reporting
of
the
number
of
employees
who
oversee
or
coordinate
the
court
interpreters.
F
I
believe
recently
the
aoc
office
had
some
changes
going
on,
and
so
the
person
that
was
overseeing
this,
I
believe
recently
retired,
maybe
a
year
ago,
and
some
of
the
changes
have
happened
since
or
some
of
the
the
path
that
we
were
going
down.
Kind
of
got
diverted
because
of
that
good
news
is,
there
is
a
new
director
for
the
aoc.
I
believe
it
is
a
miss
stocks
and
I
want
to
put
it
on
record
as
well.
I
have
not
contacted
ms
stocks
about
this
bill.
F
It
was
in
my
plans
to
do
so
and
then,
when
the
bill
dropped
on
monday,
and
thank
you
chair
yeager,
for
hearing
this
so
quickly,
it
was
in
my
plans
and
yeah.
Sorry,
I'm
a
bad
person,
but
I
will
be
contacting
her
about
it.
That's
basically
what
this
plan
does
is.
First
clarify
the
report,
expand
the
number
of
people
and
then
also
allow
for
a
little
bit
more
opportunities
for
us
to
make
changes.
F
A
Thank
you
so
much
assemblywoman
anderson
and
your
two
guests
that
were
here
and
you
know
I
just
want
to
take
a
moment.
Many
of
you
know
that
for
a
long
time
I
practiced
in
in
the
criminal
courts
down
at
clark
county,
and
I
just
want
to
thank
our
interpreters.
A
I
mean
they
they're
amazing
in
what
they
do
and
I
remember
having
a
jury
trial
where
my
client
was
spanish-speaking
and
there
were
several
witnesses
that
were
spanish-speaking,
so
we
had
multiple
interpreters
in
the
courtroom
all
doing
their
thing,
trying
to
interpret
interpret
contemporaneously,
which
I
thought
was
just
very
very
impressive.
So
I
want
to
thank
all
of
you
for
your
hard
work
and
the
fact
that
you
care
so
much
about
making
sure
individuals
have
access
to
justice
and
understand
what
is
going
on
in
the
courtroom.
A
Do
we
have
questions
from
committee
members
on
this
bill
in
front
of
us
if
you
could
raise
your
hand
in
front
of
your
screen
so
so
far
I
see
we
have
assemblywoman
hardy
and
let
me
just
see
if
there's
anybody
else
raising
their
hand.
At
the
moment
we
have
a
lot
of
folks
with
us
today
on
the
zoom,
so
I
have
to
scroll
through
a
couple
of
screens,
so
we'll
start
with
assemblywoman
hardy
and
then
we'll
take
it
from
there.
D
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
for
bringing
this
bill
during
my
years
of
working
in
the
courts.
I
interacted
a
lot
and
saw
the
great
work
that
court
interpreters
do
and
providing
access
to
justice.
So
I
think
I
think
this
is
a
good
idea.
D
I
just
had
a
couple
questions:
how
many
languages
do
you
know,
or
do
we
have
in
the
courts
that
we
can
interpreters
currently
like
different
languages?
That's
the
first
question
and
then,
where
it
says
you
would
have
an
interpreter
in
a
language
other
than
spanish.
How
would
you
determine
what
other
language
you're
going
to
would
be
chosen.
F
Thank
you
for
the
question,
so
I
I
am
going
to
hand
this
over
to
miss
chica,
but
before
doing
so,
I
I
had
the
same
question
of
the
first
one
of
how
many
languages
are
that.
Well,
I
sat
down
and
started
trying
to
figure
that
out
impossible.
There
are
numerous
I
mean
like
I
was
talking
with
somebody
about
it.
You
might
have
tongan
there's
with
just
the
group
that
I
was
meeting
with
the
other
night.
F
There
was
a
japanese,
I
believe
ms
chica
is
actually
spanish
and
trying
to
get
the
portuguese.
There
are
so
spanish,
but
then
also
sign
language.
So
there's
so
many.
I
think
it's
almost
impossible
just
to
define
that.
However,
I
will
hand
it
over
to
ms
chica
to
try
to
answer
that
and
then
the
other
question.
As
for
the
determination,
I
think
at
this
time
the
committee
is
decided
upon
by
the
supreme
court
justice.
F
He
is
the
individual
who
makes
that
decision
or
she
is
the
individual
who
makes
that
decision,
and
so
it
would
be.
Whoever
is
certified
in
any
other
language.
Other
than
spanish
to
be
able
to
choose
from,
I
believe,
is
what
the
language
says,
but
I
will
double
check
that
as
miss
chico's
answering
the
question,
if
possible,.
H
Okay,
thank
you
assembly,
women,
both
for
the
question
and
for
the
possibility
of
answering
it.
There
are
five
or
six
languages
that
are
currently
that
there
are
currently
certification
exams
for
right.
So
these
languages
are
the
more
commonly
spoken
languages-
spanish,
portuguese,
french,
chinese,
mandarin,
chinese
and
cantonese,
and
I
I'm
a
little
hard-pressed
to
to
name
them
all
right
now.
Russian,
and
then
there
are
the
the
languages
which
I
think,
the
simply
nevada.
H
The
aoc
has
not
had
enough
frequency
to
create
an
exam
for,
nor
do
they
have
a
certified
interpreter
that
they
could
or
an
interpreter
a
highly
experienced
interpreter
that
they
could
create
the
test
with
so
so
these
languages
are,
as
I
said,
the
less
the
the
less
commonly
spoken
languages
are
or
less
frequently
used
languages
in
court
such
as
japanese.
You
know
northern
african
languages.
H
I
believe
arabic
is
in
that
group,
although
arabic
is
quite
highly
frequently
spoken,
so
they're
the
same
which
languages
are
the
registered
languages
or
the
languages
other
that
are
not
the
five
or
six
that
we
have
certifications
for
there
are
many
and
as
need
arises,
then
you
know
some
somebody
will
come
out
of
the
community
and
say:
okay.
Well,
I
could
register
and
I
could
train
and
I
could
become.
H
I
could
become
sort
of
the
interpreter
for
my
group
before
the
course
and
hard
to
number.
In
other
words,
it's
hard
to
number.
F
Thank
you
and
then
also
just
to
clarify
the
other.
The
second
part
of
the
question,
the
list
of
recommendations.
It's
listed
on
section
1,
1.5
30.1.
F
J
D
J
F
A
A
Let
me
scroll
through
here
to
make
sure
nobody
has
their
hand
up.
Okay,
I
don't
see
any
additional
hands
up,
so
assemblywoman
anderson
miss
chica.
Mr
medeiros,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
presenting.
I
would
ask
you
just
to
sit
tight
for
a
moment
as
we
take
testimony
on
the
bill
and
then
we'll
come
back
for
any
concluding
remarks
you
may
have
so
at
this
time
I'm
going
to
open
up
the
testimony
testimony
in
support
of
assembly
bill
212..
A
L
L
J
J
Court
interpreters
are
essential
for
criminal
justice
to
ensure
accurate
communication,
give
every
individual
a
voice
in
the
process
and
are
helpful
to
avoid
delays
and
drop
charges.
Ab212
is
an
important
step
to
help
nevada
increase
access
to
court
interpreters
and,
as
they
are,
the
most
knowledgeable
should
be
involved
in
the
process
to
improve
the
program.
We
urge
your
support.
Thank
you.
L
J
Mr
chair
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
olivia
whiteley,
that's
o-l-I-v-I-a
w-h-I-t-e-l-e-y
for
the
record,
I'm
an
advocacy
officer
for
the
refugee
advocacy
lab,
and
I
ask
you
to
support
ab212
over
the
past
several
months.
I've
surveyed,
nevada's
resettlement
agencies
and
the
number
one
shared
concern
of
these
agencies
is
language
access,
particularly
for
refugees
that
speak
uncommon.
Languages
such
as
ketubah
and
lingala
spoken
in
the
democratic
republic
of
the
congo
or
tigrinya
spoken
in
eritrea.
J
Ab212
supports
refugees
both
in
their
search
for
equity
and
everyday
legal
activities
such
as
covert
related
eviction,
hearings
or
general
family
proceedings
and
economic
opportunities
for
employment
as
individuals
in
need
of
language
services.
Ab212
supports
refugees
by
requiring
an
annual
report
that
contains
information
on
the
activities
of
the
aoc's
committee.
This
provides
an
additional
measure
of
transparency
on
the
policies
and
procedures
used
to
provide
language
access.
Members
of
the
refugee
community
would
then
be
able
to
recommend
revisions
to
those
processes,
such
as
further
activities
regarding
infrequently
spoken
refugee
languages,
literacy
considerations
or
cultural
competency
training.
J
Further
inclusion
of
statistical
information
regarding
the
need
for
language
services
ensures
that
refugee
languages,
which
are
often
less
frequently
spoken,
are
accounted
for
in
judicial
proceedings
as
individuals
who
become
translators
and
interpreters.
Ab212
invests
in
refugees
by
increasing
the
representation
of
interpreters
on
the
aoc
committee.
The
inclusion
of
an
interpreter
that
works
in
a
language
less
commonly
used
insures
procedure
support
rather
than
hinder
refugees
that
work
as
interpreters
as
the
optimal
number
of
required
working
hours.
Trainings
available
and
cultural
considerations
may
differ
significantly
from
the
spanish
language
standard.
Thus,
I
urge
you
to
support
abq12.
L
J
J
M
J
A
A
A
A
L
K
K
The
name
is
j-o-h-n
last
name
m-c-c-o-r-m-I-c-k,
I'm
calling
in
neutral
on
the
content
of
the
bill
this
morning
and
want
to
put
on
record
the
administrative
office
of
the
courts
is
happy
to
work
with
the
sponsors
of
the
committee
in
any
way
we
need
to
on
this
bill.
I
would
like
to
point
out
briefly
that
statutorily
the
court
interpreter
program
at
the
aoc
does
not
include
interpreters
for
in
american
sign
language
or
for
people
with
a
hearing
impairment
that
is
actually
regulated
through
the
department
of
health
and
human
services.
K
Additionally,
I
can
provide
some
clarification
as
far
as
the
program
operation
at
aoc.
We
did
have
our
coordinator
us
last
february
and
have
been
unable
to
fill
that
position
since
due
to
the
pandemic
related
budget
cuts
that
have
been
necessary,
so
myself
and
other
staff
have
been
filling
in
and
it
has
been
difficult
during
the
pandemic
to
provide
adequate
testing,
because
testing
does
have
to
happen
in
person,
however,
not
to
sort
of
be
labor.
A
L
L
L
A
F
F
I
and
I
will
be
reaching
out
to
mr
mccormick
as
well
as
ms
stocks,
to
try
to
figure
out,
what's
all
going
on,
so
I
thank
him
very
much
for
that
clarification
around
the
sign
language.
I
was
unaware
of
that,
so
I'll
make
sure
to
make
sure
that
miss
brownmay
knows
about
that
as
well.
In
closing,
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
and
I
would
just
like
to
point
out
that
the
state
of
nevada
has
a
very
rich
history
and
honoring
our
translators.
F
Sarah
winnemucca
is
probably
the
most
famous
of
our
translators
and
I
just
wanted
to
bring
her
name
into
the
room
as
well
to
show
how
we
have
always
honored
them,
and
I
believe
this
is
another
way
for
us
to
do
so.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
again,
jerry
yeager.
A
Thank
you
so
much
assemblywoman
anderson
and
thank
you
to
your
two
co-presenters.
You
did
a
wonderful
job,
presenting
your
first
bill
in
front
of
the
assembly
judiciary
committee.
It
was
an
honor
to
have
you
here
this
morning
and
again,
thank
you
guys
for
joining
us
for
a
little
bit
of
time
here
on
friday
morning.
I
hope
you
have
a
fantastic
rest
of
the
day.
C
A
A
Okay,
thank
you,
everyone
for
your
patience.
It
doesn't
look
like
we
have
all
of
our
members
back
yet
so
we're
going
to
hold
off
on
the
work
session
for
just
a
little
while
longer
and
committee
members
and
members
who
are
on
the
zoom.
Excuse
me
guests,
who
are
on
the
zoom
for
the
work
session.
Just
ask
for
your
patience.
I
don't
think
the
next
bill
is
going
to
take
too
terribly
long,
so
we'll
get
through
that
and
then
go
to
the
work
session.
N
N
There
are
five
changes
that
have
been
made
throughout
this
section
easy
to
find
within
the
bill,
but
I
do
want
to
point
out
what
chair
jaeger
said
earlier.
There
is
a
conceptual
amendment
I
before
I
go
through
the
bill.
I
do
want
to
let
you
know
that
serena
evans
from
the
national
nevada
coalition
to
end
domestic
and
sexual
violence
is
here
to
present
this
bill
with
me
as
well.
So
my
goal
is
to
go
through
the
the
bill.
N
Explain
the
conceptual
amendment
and
then
turn
it
over
to
miss
evans
to
to
do
a
little
bit
of
testimony
and
then
take
some
questions.
N
So
ab214
in
section
one
section,
section,
subsection
one
one:
a
a
one
b
and
five
b
removes
language
him
or
her
or
himself
or
herself,
and
replaces
that
language
with
ungendered
language.
The
reason
for
this
is
twofold:
one
is
to
recognize
that
there
is
a
spectrum
of
genders
so
that
the
the
assault
statute
can
can
be
eligible
for
for
anyone
or
anyone
can
can
can
utilize
it
also
to
ensure
that
the
understanding
that
men
can
also
be
victims
of
sexual
assault.
N
Also,
we
did
this
to
align
it
to
other
nrs
chapters
throughout
throughout
nrs
to
align
it
with
with
the
goal
of
degendering
that
language,
so,
for
example,
domestic
relations,
I
believe,
was
changed
in
the
last
two
sessions
to
to
to
fix
that
language,
and
this
just
aligns
with
that
idea.
N
So
the
conceptual
amendment
is
specifically
for
section
subsection,
one,
a
the
second
section
in
there
subjects
a
person
subjects
another
person
to
sexual
penetration
or
forces
another
person
to
make
a
sexual
penetration.
The
original
change
was
that
person.
What
this
conceptual
amendment
does.
Is
it
takes
out
that
person
and
changes
that
to
themselves?
N
Subject:
another
person
to
sexual
presentation
or
forces
another
person
to
make
a
sexual
penetration
on
themselves
or
another
or
on
a
beast
against
the
will
of
the
victim
or
under
conditions
in
which
the
perpetrator
knows
he
knows
or
should
know
the
victim
is
mentally
or
physically
incapable
of
resisting
or
understanding
the
nature
of
the
perpetrator's
conduct.
So
it's
a
simple
bill.
A
G
Morning,
chairman
yeager
members
of
the
committee
happy
friday,
my
name
is
serena
evans
and
I
am
the
policy
specialist
for
the
nevada
coalition
and
domestic
and
sexual
violence
for
those
of
you
who
are
not
familiar
with
nce
dsv.
We
are
the
statewide
coalition
of
domestic
and
sexual
violence
programs
throughout
all
of
nevada.
So
I
want
to
first
thank
the
assembly
woman
for
working
with
us,
along
with
many
other
stakeholders
throughout
the
interim,
to
work
on
this
issue.
So
since
last
session,
I'm
so
sorry
excuse
me
fighting
a
head
cold.
G
I
was
contacted
from
a
few
programs
and
sexual
assault
advocates
throughout
the
state
expressing
interest
and
wanting
to
work
on
the
nevada,
revised
statute
definition
of
sexual
assault.
So
in
response
to
the
reoccurring
interest
in
this
topic,
we
at
the
coalition
convened
a
work
group
of
sexual
assault
advocates
throughout
the
state,
and
we
held
this
work
group
in
july
of
2020
and
pretty
much.
G
So
many
clients
that
are
wonderful
advocacy
organizations
serve,
don't
necessarily
identify
as
female
or
male
and
fall
onto
the
gender,
the
non-binary
gender
spectrum,
and
so
the
current
himself
in
herself
language
that
is
used
as
exclusive
of
these
non-gender.
Conforming
survivors
and
many
lgbtqia
plus
survivors
didn't
feel
safe
to
come
forward
about
their
sexual
violence
victimization,
and
they
also
felt
that
their
victimization
was
not
truly
valid
or
taken
seriously
with
what
the
current
gender,
like
with
the
current
gendered
language
being
used
like
the
assembly
woman
mentioned.
G
The
other
part
of
this
conversation
was
that
there's
this
traditional
narrative
within
sexual
violence
that
it's
usually
a
male
perpetrating
a
female
victim,
and
we
know
that
that's
just
not
true.
Anyone
can
be
a
victim
survivor
regardless
of
their
gender,
and
anyone
can
unfortunately
be
a
perpetrator
as
well,
regardless
of
their
gender
and
so
replacing
this
language
with
themselves
or
the
perpetrator
and
the
victim
really
gets
rid
of
that
traditional
narrative.
G
It
allows
people
victim
survivors,
regardless
of
the
gender
of
themselves,
regardless
of
the
gender
of
their
perpetrator,
to
feel
comfortable
and
safe
coming
forward
and
sharing
their
story
like
the
assemblywoman
mentioned.
This
is
a
very
small
change
in
the
statute,
but
we
know
that
inclusive
language
is
necessary
for
the
safety
of
everyone.
Language
is
powerful.
G
This
small
change
will
really
truly
have
a
meaningful
impact
for
victim
survivors
throughout
the
state.
I
want
to
also
note
that,
according
to
the
us
department
of
justice,
sexual
assault
is
the
most
underreported
violent
crime,
with
only
about
one-third
of
victim
survivors
reporting
to
law
enforcement.
So
if
we
can
make
this
small
but
meaningful
change
to
increase
the
likelihood
that
more
survivors
will
feel
comfortable
enough
to
come
forward
and
potentially
report
to
law
enforcement,
that
means
we
are
increasing
the
likelihood
that
more
perpetrators
are
being
held
accountable.
G
So
again,
I
really
want
to
thank
the
assemblywoman
for
her
willingness
to
take
on
this
piece
of
legislation
to
address
the
needed
change
in
our
sexual
assault.
Definition,
like
I
mentioned
earlier,
this
piece
of
legislation
is
honestly
the
first
step
in
what
is
a
larger
effort
to
make
positive
changes
in
the
sexual
assault
laws
in
nevada
and
so
at
the
coalition.
G
A
A
A
I
just
I
guess
I
have
a
question
and
maybe
just
a
quick
comment
and
assemblywoman
I
wanted
to
just
ask.
I
guess
I
think
this
particular
concept
in
the
bill
was
one
of
the
concepts
that
was
worked
on
by
our
former
colleague
in
the
legislature,
assemblywoman
monk,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
confirm
that
and
if
so
obviously
thank
her
for
her
work
on
this,
and
thank
you
for
picking
up
where
she
left
off
and
running
with
this
bill.
So
if
you
have
any
comments
on
that,
I
would
appreciate
it.
N
Thank
you,
vanisha
consulating,
for
the
record
and
thank
you
for
bringing
up
previous
assembly
woman
monk.
This
originally
was
her
bill
from
the
last
session.
The
conception
of
this
bill
was
much
larger
than
this,
but,
as
miss
evans
said
before,
there
is
a
long-term
plan
to
work
out
other
issues
under
this
nrs,
but
we
didn't
want
to
lose
the
opportunity
to
do
something
small,
yet
very
meaningful
that
we
could
get
done
now
as
a
beginning
part.
But
the
genesis
of
all
of
this
that
credit
does
have
to
go
to
former
assemblywoman
connie
monk.
A
Thank
you
for
that
and
assemblywoman
monk.
I
don't
know
if
you're
watching,
but
if
you
are,
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
your
work
on
this
issue
and
I'm
I'm
glad
assemblywoman
considine
was
able
to
to
pick
it
up
and
run
with
it
and
I
think
there's
probably
more
work
to
be
done,
but
we'll
take
it
one
step
at
a
time.
A
A
A
A
L
E
Good
morning
and
thank
you
assembly
committee,
my
name
is
dr
margaret
campy.
You
spell
my
name
m-a-r-g-a-r.
E
And
thanks
for
having
me
and
thank
you
especially
to
assembly,
woman,
constantine
and
serena
for
your
hard
work
on
this
bill,
I
am
the
director
of
the
unlv
genetics
care
center,
where
care
stands
for
campus
anti-violence,
advocacy
resources
and
empowerment,
and
I'm
here
to
testify
in
support
of
ab214,
so
gender-neutral
language
and
legislation
is
imperative,
especially
as
it
relates
to
interpersonal
violence,
including
sexual
assault.
E
So
I
just
as
such,
you
know
it's
imperative
that
legislation
not
assert
gender
binaries
as
it's
not
inclusive
to
those
who
are
most
at
risk
for
experiencing
such
such
violence.
E
A
L
L
C
Good
morning
kerry,
yeager
and
members
of
the
assembly
judiciary,
this
is
kendra
burchie,
k-e-n-d-r-a
b-e-r-t-s-c-h-y,
with
the
washoe
county
public
defender's
office.
First,
I
want
to
thank
the
assemblywoman,
as
well
as
ms
evans,
for
bringing
forward
this
very
important
bill.
We
appreciate
having
the
opportunity
to
work
with
them
on
this
issue
during
the
interim
and
really
appreciate
them
bringing
forward
this
language.
C
As
we
all
know,
language
and
words
that
we
use
are
extremely
important
and
gender
neutral
language
assists
to
reduce
the
stigma
for
victims
of
sexual
assault.
I
unfortunately
have
represented
many
men
and
women
who
themselves
were
victims
and
use
substances
or
failed
to
use
services
which
led
them
into
being
criminal
defendants
under
our
care.
It
is
all
too
common
for
our
client
to
disclose,
for
the
first
time
when
appearing
as
a
defendant,
to
indicate
that
they
too
had
been
victimized.
C
A
L
K
Hi,
jim
hoffman,
representing
nevada,
attorneys
for
criminal
justice.
I
would
like
to
echo
the
testimony
from
the
presenters
and
from
the
other
people
who
spoke
nacj
supports
this
because
in
general
we
support
you
know
if
you're
dealing
with
crime
through
the
criminal
justice
system,
you've
already
failed.
In
some
sense,
the
best
thing
to
do
is
to
try
and
prevent
crime
from
happening,
as
miss
burshy
said
previously.
K
Being
victimized
is
one
of
the
main
predictors
of
someone
going
on
to
victimize
someone
else,
and
we
believe
that
by
by
helping
victims
and
by
making
the
system
more
inclusive
of
all
victims,
we're
not
just
helping
those
victims
which
is
very
important,
we're
helping
to
break
this
cycle
so
again
we're
thankful
for
this
bill.
We
support
this
bill.
Thank
you.
L
K
Good
morning,
chairman
yeager
and
members
of
the
assembly
judiciary
committee,
this
is
john
piero,
j-o-h-n-p-I-r-o
from
the
clark
county
public
defender's
office,
we'd
like
to
thank
the
bill's
sponsor
for
bringing
this
bill
forward
and
speaking
with
us
during
the
interim
about
this
issue.
We
recognize
that
the
public
defender's
office,
the
value
of
all
human
beings,
and
that
the
change
in
language
in
this
bill
brings
forward
hope
that
this
language
will
help
survivors
feel
comfortable
coming
forward,
and
we
urge
the
passage
of
this
bill.
Thank
you.
L
K
Thank
you,
chair
yeager
members
of
the
assembly
judiciary
committee.
My
name
is
jon
jones,
j,
o
h,
n
j,
o
n
e
s
here
on
behalf
of
the
nevada
district
attorneys
association
and
the
clark
county
district
attorney's
office.
We
are
here
in
support
of
ab214
and
we
support
efforts
to
de-gender
our
statutes
in
an
effort
to
be
more
inclusive.
K
I
want
to
thank
assemblywoman
constandon,
who
reached
out
well
before
this
session,
to
discuss
this
bill
with
us.
I
also
want
to
thank
her
for
the
amendment
which
is
posted
on
nellis,
which
we
feel
provides
a
more
clarity.
The
original
draft
read
a
bit
confusing,
as
the
person
referred
to
the
defendant
and
that
person
referred
to
the
victim.
K
The
amendment
that
she
filed
this
morning
makes
the
statute
look
a
bit
more
clear,
and
I
also
want
to
reiterate
the
intent
of
this
bill
is
not
to
change
any
of
the
elements
of
the
current
sexual
assault
statute.
It
is
simply
to
de-gender
the
language
contained
within
it.
With
that,
mr
chairman,
we
want
to
reiterate
our
support
of
ab214
and
thank
you
for
your
time.
L
D
Good
morning
this
is
danielle
staple
d-a-n-I-e-l-e.
C
I
want
to
thank
the
committee
for
hearing
it
so
promptly
and
assemblywoman
constantine
for
bringing
it
forward
and
the
coalition
for
all
their
work,
representing
the
the
task
force
that
ms
evans
mentioned
that
have
been
working
on
the
bill
prior
to
session.
The
rape
crisis
center
feels
this
kind
of
language
change
is
critically
important.
As
dr
campy
said.
C
We
know
that
transgendered
individuals
or
transgender
individuals,
I'm
sorry
for
that
misspoke
are
disproportionately
impacted
by
sexual
violence
and
so
having
the
statute
correctly
represent
and
be
gender
neutral,
so
that
all
potential
survivors
and
victims
feel
comfortable
coming
forward
for
services
and
to
receive
the
justice
they
so
richly
deserve
is
critically
important
in
our
statutes,
and
we
are
wholeheartedly
in
support
of
this
bill.
A
A
A
A
A
N
Thank
you
very
much
chair
and
thank
you,
a
committee.
I
really
appreciate
this
is
my
first
bill
hearing
and
I'm
grateful
for
your
time
and
your
patience
with
this
bill
and
the
support
of
everyone
who
worked
on
this
bill,
especially
serena,
evans
and
connie,
monk
and
serena.
If
you
wanted
to
follow
up
with
anything,
please
feel
free.
G
We'll
just
keep
it
brief
and
say:
thank
you
so
much
for
hearing
this
bill
so
fast
and
thank
you
to
assembly
owned
constantine
as
well
as
assembly
prior
assembly
woman
connie
monk.
For
getting
this
conversation
started.
We're
really
excited
to
continue
this
work
throughout
nevada.
A
Thank
you
so
much
assemblywoman
considine.
I
think
that
for
a
first
bill
hearing
that
went
pretty
well
only
supportive
testimony
no
opposition
and
no
neutral.
So
I
can
pat
yourself
on
the
back,
and
I
think
that
is
a
testament
to
the
work
that
you've
done
on
this
piece
of
legislation,
and
I
I
really
appreciate
that.
I
believe
you
reached
out
to
me.
I
don't
know
how
long
ago
it
was
months
and
months
ago
to
talk
about
this.
So
I
want
to
thank
you.
A
So
I
will
now
close
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill,
214
and
committee.
We
are
going
to
move
on
to
our
work
session
assembly
and
I
should
note
for
the
record.
Assemblyman
o'neill
has
joined
us.
He
did
join
us
partway
through
that
last
bill
hearing.
So
I
think
we
have
everyone
present.
Assemblywoman
summers.
A
A
O
O
There
is
one
amendment
to
the
measure
it
was
proposed
by
jim
hoffman
nevada
attorneys
for
criminal
justice,
and
mr
hoffman
did
work
with
dr
neighbors
from
the
public
and
behavioral
health,
the
division
of
on
the
amendment,
and
they
are
in
agreement
with
it.
The
first
change
changes
must
to
may
in
section
one
concerning
law
enforcement
taking
the
person
into
protective
custody.
O
A
Thank
you
miss
thornton.
I
want
to
thank
dr
neighbors
and
mr
hoffman
for
working
on
this
bill.
You
may
recall
during
the
hearing
there
were
some
concerns
about
some
of
the
time
frames
in
there,
but
I
am
happy
to
report
that
there
was
a
consensus
reached
from
the
bill
sponsor
and
those
proposing
the
amendments.
Does
anybody
have
questions
about
assembly
bill
25
as
detailed
in
the
work
session
document.
A
A
A
C
B
D
D
D
O
A
O
Thank
you,
chair
assembly,
bill
33
was
sponsored
by
this
committee
on
behalf
of
the
nevada
association
of
counties
and
herding
committee
on
march
5th.
This
bill
provides
that
the
process
for
establishing
the
paternity
of
a
child
illegally
established
during
a
civil
proceeding
concerning
the
protection
of
a
child.
O
First,
it
deletes
several
sections
of
the
bill,
including
1-11
13
and
14,
and
amends
section
12
of
the
bill
by
adding
a
reference
to
chapter
432
b
adds
a
new
section
section
13
amending
nrs
126.091,
which
is
jurisdiction
and
venue,
and,
lastly
chair.
It
amends
nrs
126.161
to
provide
that
a
judgment
or
order
issued
pursuant
to
chapter
126
within
an
nrs
432b
receiving
is
excluded
from
the
confidential
confidentiality
provisions
and
also
a
judgment
or
order
issued
pursuant
to
chapter
126
within
an
nrs
432b
proceeding
is
considered
a
final
order.
A
H
D
Assembly
person,
krasner
megan,
lucy
m-e-g-a-n-l-u-c-e-y
on
behalf
of
washoe
county
human
services
agency.
Yes,
madam
chairman,
on
the
amendment
to
the
proposed
1260191
and
161.
If
you
look
at
number
four
on
the
new
changes,
you'll
see
that
sub
2
states
a
judgment
or
order
shall
issue
pursuant
to
chapters
126
of
nrs
with
an
nrs
432b.
D
Proceeding
is
considered
a
final
order
that
language
specifically
addresses
the
appealable
issue,
because
all
final
orders
are
appealable,
and
that
was
a
concern
that
was
brought
up
through
the
stakeholders
and
was
addressed
specifically
with
that
provision.
So,
yes,
these
orders
will
be
appealable.
Thank.
H
A
A
D
A
A
D
D
D
D
K
A
O
Assembly
bill
60
was
sponsored
by
this
committee
on
behalf
of
the
attorney
general
and
herding
committee
on
february
16th.
This
bill
makes
certain
provisions
of
a
contract
or
settlement
agreement
void
and
unenforceable.
There
are
two
amendments
to
this
measure.
First
kyle
george
from
the
office
of
the
attorney
general
proposed
an
amendment
to
add
additional
protected
classes,
including
race,
religious
creed,
color,
national
origin,
disability,
sexual
orientation,
gender
identity
or
expression,
ancestry
and
familial
status
to
the
bill,
and,
secondly,
assemblywoman
summers,
armstrong
proposed
to
add
age
and
addition
to
the
list
above.
Thank
you,
chairman.
A
A
A
C
K
D
K
C
A
O
Yes,
chairman
assembly,
bill
64,
was
sponsored
by
this
committee
on
behalf
of
the
attorney
general
and
heard
in
committee
on
march.
8Th
this
bill
changes
the
penalties
for
certain
unlawful
acts
relating
to
preventing
or
dissuading
certain
persons,
persons
from
testifying
or
producing
evidence.
The
definition
of
soliciting
a
child
for
prostitution
is
also
revised.
O
There's
one
amendment
from
jessica,
adair,
chief
of
staff
attorney
general's
office.
The
amendment
does
the
following:
first,
it
strikes
new
language
and
reverts
back
to
existing
law
in
subsection
one
and
two
of
section,
one
subsections,
two
c
through
eleven,
and
also
in
section
five,
it
adds
a
new
section,
three
amending
nrs
201.354,
providing
that
the
attorney
general
has
concurred,
jurisdiction
with
the
district
attorneys
in
the
state
to
prosecute
violations
of
facilitating
sex
trafficking
and
engaging
in
prostitution
or
solicitation
for
prostitution.
O
A
A
E
I
just
wanted
to
know
if
someone
could
explain
why
we
went
back
to
some
of
the
original
language
if
we
just
have
a
quick
recap.
A
N
N
The
amendment
that
you
would
like
me
to
go
through,
I
I
can
in
terms
of
the
witness
dissuasion
section,
we
decided
to
go
back
to
the
original
statutory
language
after
some
concerns
from
stakeholders
regarding
the.
G
To
the
original
statutory
language
regarding
some
constitutionality
and
practicality
of
that
for
legal
brothels,
and
if
you
have.
E
A
A
A
A
I
K
D
C
K
A
O
Thank
you,
chairman
assembly
will
115
was
sponsored
by
a
sunday
woman,
win
and
heard
in
committee
on
february
26th.
This
bill
authorizes
the
court
to
determine,
in
certain
circumstances,
that
more
than
two
people
have
a
parent
and
child
relationship
with
a
child.
There
are
three
proposed
amendments
to
this
measure.
O
O
And
lastly,
assemblywoman
cohen,
proposed
an
amendment
to
revise
the
amendment
in
nrs
127.040
by
deleting
the
or
and
replacing
with
it.
And
thank
you
chairman.
A
A
A
D
I
D
A
O
A
A
A
J
L
C
B
D
N
O
A
O
Assembly
bill
151,
sponsored
by
assemblywoman,
gonzalez
and
heard
in
this
committee
on
february
25th.
This
bill
removes
the
authority
of
the
court
to
suspend
the
driver's
license
of
a
defendant
or
prohibit
a
defendant
from
applying
for
a
driver's
license
for
a
specific
specified
period.
If
the
delinquent
fine
administrative
assessment
fee
or
restitution
was
originally
imposed
for
a
minor
traffic
offense,
there
is
an
amendment
proposed
by
assemblywoman,
gonzalez
and
she's,
proposing
to
add
co-sponsors
to
the
bill.
Thank
you,
chairman.
A
D
Thank
you
chair.
I
I
haven't
gotten
any
clarity
yet
on
this
is
is
insurance
when
you
drive
without
insurance.
D
A
Thank
you
for
the
question,
so
it's
an
interesting
question.
There's
a
couple
different
parts
to
it:
driving
with
insurance
is
considered
a
minor
traffic
offense.
But
if
you
drive
without
insurance,
this
bill
in
front
of
you
is
not
going
to
prevent
your
your
driving
privileges
from
being
suspended
because
the
fact
of
not
having
insurance
is
going
to
get
your
driver's
license
suspended.
So
I
don't
want
the.
I
don't
want
to
leave
the
impression
that
you
can
drive
without
insurance
and
you'll
just
be
able
to
drive
what
this
bill
does.
A
Is
it
says
if
you
don't
take
care
of
your
fines
and
fees
or
if
you
don't
appear
in
court,
they
can't
suspend
your
driver's
license.
For
that
reason,
but
driving
without
insurance
in
and
of
itself
is
something
that
will
get
you
suspended,
and
I
don't
know
if
any
of
you
have
had
this
experience,
but
sometimes
there's
a
lack
of
communication
between
your
insurance
company
and
the
dmv
and
you'll
get
a
notice
from
the
dmv
that
they
don't
have
updated
insurance
information.
If
you
don't
provide
that
your
license
will
be
suspended.
A
N
E
Thank
you,
chair
yeager,
I
would
like,
if
this
is,
can
I
have
an
opportunity
to
sign
on
to
this
bill
at
this
time?
Is
that
appropriate.
A
D
I'm
making
sure
I've
got
my
unmute
button
ready
now.
So
my
my
question
is.
F
D
F
A
We
have
miss
mosley
with
us
on
the
zoom,
who
was
one
of
the
co-presenters
with
assemblywoman
gonzales.
So
I
think
I'd
probably
ask
her
to
address
that
and
if
you
could
be
as
succinct
as
possible,
that
would
be
appreciated.
H
H
The
only
thing
this
bill
would
do
was
prevent
anyone
from
having
their
driver
license
suspended
for
non-payment,
but
the
law
all
currently
allows
for
civil
judgments
and
so
that,
I
believe,
that's
what
would
happen
if
they
continue
to
rack
those
up.
That
would
just
be
become
a
civil
judgment
against
them.
A
And
you
know
one
thing
I'll
add:
we
didn't
really
talk
about
this
at
the
hearing,
but
this
concern
about
you
know.
Maybe
there
are
folks
out
there
who
are
just
going
to
sort
of
game
the
system
right,
they're,
not
they're,
not
going
to
pay
they're
not
going
to
do
community
service
and
their
licenses
won't
be
suspended.
I'll
just
make
a
couple
of
notes:
number
one.
If
you're
a
bad
driver,
the
dmv
is
still
getting
information
about
your
ticket,
so
your
driver's
license
can
be
suspended
or
your
insurance
is
going
to
go
up.
A
If
you
get
too
many
points
due
to
your
driving
and
the
other
thing
I
would
say,
is
you
know
a
court
has
contempt
power.
So
if
somebody
you
know
truly,
is
in
a
position
to
do
the
community
service
and
just
doesn't
do
it,
the
court
would
have
the
ability
to
hold
that
person
in
contempt
in
some
fashion,
because
essentially
you're
violating
a
court
order.
The
court
is
telling
you
you
have
to
do
community
service
and
you're
not
doing
it.
A
You
know
there's
some
protections
that
go
along
with
that
process.
You
get
an
attorney,
but
so
the
court
does
have
its
disposal
things
that
it
can
do
if
there
are
people
that
just
are
are
not
taking
their
obligations
seriously
and
disregarding
what
they
should
be
doing.
This
bill
simply
speaks
about
the
driver's
license,
suspension
piece
that
comes
out
of
that.
Hopefully
that's
some
clarifying
information
without
go
without
going
too
far
down
the
rabbit
hole
extremely
helpful.
Thank
you,
you're
welcome
and
thank
you
for
answering
that
question.
A
C
I
would
move
to
amend
and
do
path
assembly
by
151
and
I'll
second,
that.
A
Okay,
so
we
have
a
motion
from
vice
chair
win
as
a
motion
is
to
amend
and
do
pass
with
that
one
additional
provision
to
add
assemblywoman
summers:
armstrong
as
a
co-sponsor.
The
second
is
from
assemblywoman
kasama.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
the
motion
in
front
of
the
committee
assemblywoman
hanson
and
then
we'll
go
to
semi
one
kresner.
D
You
chair,
and
I
like
so
much
of
this
bill
and
agree
with
with
the
intent
and
I'm
a
yes,
but
I
will
reserve
my
right.
It
may
be
clarify
just
one
or
two
more
things
that
I
need
to
resolve.
I
really
do
like
the
texas
and
the
arizona
models
that
gave
me
a
lot
of
comfort,
worrying
about
the
revenue
side
of
things
and
and
seeing
some
good
outcomes.
So
again,
I'm
a
yes
but
I'll
reserve,
my
right
just
to
clarify
a
couple
things.
D
With
the
fact
that
there's
no
penalty
for
failure
to
appear,
I
know
in
some
other
countries,
there's
no
penalty
for
failure
to
appear
citizens
are
allowed
to
thumb
their
nose.
Please
district
attorney
force.
I
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
go
down
that
rabbit
hole,
but
although
yes
to
get
it
out
of
committee
and
if
you're
my
right
to
change
before.
Thank
you.
A
D
D
Thank
you
chair.
I
too
think
this
is
a
good
bill.
I
just
want
to
clarify
some
concerns
myself.
So
I'll
vote.
Yes
out
of
committee
and
reserve
my
right.
Thank
you.
A
Great
and
I'll
remind
members
that
you
always
reserve
your
right.
You
can
always
change
your
mind
between
the
committee
vote
and
the
floor
vote.
I
would
just
ask
as
a
matter
of
courtesy,
if
you
could,
let
me
know
if
you're
going
to
do
that,
helps
me
plan
for
how
much
time
we
might
need
on
the
assembly
floor
for
bills,
but,
as
elected
members,
you
always
have
the
right
to
do
that.
D
L
D
D
K
A
O
O
A
D
A
O
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
was
very
worried
that
this
bill
also
would
cause
people
not
to
call
the
police,
although
I
do
see
the
need
for
the
bill
itself,
but
I
want.
K
To
thank
the
assembly,
woman
roman
reigns
for.
A
Okay,
I
don't
see
questions
at
this
time.
I
will
go
to
assemblyman
miller,
who
I
believe
would
like
to
make
a
motion.
A
Thank
you
assemblyman
miller,
and
we
great
we
have
a
second,
so
assemblyman
miller
has
made
the
motion
to
amend
and
do
pass.
We
have
a
second
from
assemblywoman
bilbray
axelrod.
Any
additional
comments
on
the
motion
see
no
additional
comments.
Madam
secretary,
would
you
please
conduct
the
roll
call
vote.
D
D
L
D
D
O
A
O
A
The
amendment
in
front
of
you
basically
says
they
just
have
to
register
one
time
and
pay
one
fee
and
that'll
cover
them
for
the
entire
year,
so
it
should
save
on
some
paperwork
from
the
qualified
organizations,
as
well
as
the
gaming
control
board
side.
Any
questions
about
assembly
bill
202
as
detailed
in
the
work
session
document.
A
C
D
D
D
D
D
A
Yes,
the
motion
does
carry
unanimously.
I
will
take
the
floor
statement
on
that
one.
Thank
you,
ms
thornton
and
committee
members
for
getting
us
through
that
work
session
and
thank
you
for
those
who
joined
us
on
the
zoom
to
answer
questions
with
the
work
session
behind
us.
We
have
yet
another
bill
on
the
agenda
and
I
will
be
presenting
that
bill
with
a
couple
others.
So
at
this
time,
I'm
going
to
hand
the
virtual
gavel
over
to
vice
chairwin.
C
Thank
you,
and
at
this
time
I
will
hear
open
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
219..
This
bill
revises
provisions
governing
the
ceiling
of
criminal
records.
Assemblyman
yeager,
please
begin
when
you
are.
A
Ready,
thank
you
so
much
and
good
morning,
madam
vice
chair
and
members
of
the
assembly
judiciary
committee
for
the
record,
I
am
assemblyman
steve
yeager,
representing
district
9
in
southwest
las
vegas.
It
is
an
honor
this
morning
to
present
to
you
assembly
bill
219
with
me
today
is
sophia
romero,
an
attorney
with
the
legal
aid
center
of
southern
nevada
and
bailey
bordelin
with
the
nevada
coalition
of
legal
services
providers,
with
the
vice
chair's
permission.
I
intend
to
give
some
brief
opening
remarks
and
then
miss
bortolin
can
take
you
through
the
bill.
A
A
Many
interested
persons
in
the
community,
including
the
boyd
school
of
law,
the
public
defender's
office
and
legal
aid
providers
all
work
tirelessly
to
make
sure
that
record
sealing
is
as
accessible
as
possible
and
they
assist
community
members
with
the
process.
But,
to
be
honest,
there
are
still
major
barriers
in
having
your
record
sealed
assembly
bill.
219
does
three
things
to
make
this
process
a
little
easier
one.
It
streamlines
streamlines
record
sealing
for
people
who
have
received
a
pardon
two.
It
clarifies
the
role
of
the
prosecuting
attorney
in
the
record,
sealing
process
and
three.
A
A
There
have
been
some
concerns
with
the
statute
being
applied
differently
in
different
parts
of
the
state,
and
we
want
to
close
those
loopholes
as
well
as
modernize.
The
appeal
language
currently
and
you'll
find
this
in
the
amendment.
A
petitioner
can
apply
for
two
re-hearings
in
front
of
the
court,
but
they
can't
appeal
the
decision.
A
So,
instead
we're
proposing
to
delete
the
two
re-hearing
option
and
instead
just
note
that
if
your
petition
is
denied,
you
would
have
the
right
to
appeal
it
as
you
would
any
other
final
order,
so
that
an
appellate
court
can
review
the
denial
with
that.
Madam
vice
chair,
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
to
miss
bortolin.
Who
will
take
you
through
the
sections
of
the
bill
and
then
we'll
be
available
to
answer
any
questions
the
committee
may
have
please.
C
P
P
As
chair
yeager
pointed
out,
the
record
sealing
process
can
be
extremely
burdensome
and
arduous,
and
I
appreciate
cherry
yeager
always
working
to
turn
the
slow
wheels
of
justice
to
improve
the
process.
So
we
are
back
again
with
a
few
more
fixes,
I'm
going
to
walk
you
through
the
bill
piece
by
piece.
So
if
you'll
look
at
section
one,
it
requires
the
court
to
grant
the
record-sealing
petition
without
relitigating
the
merit
for
someone
who
has
received
a
pardon
from
the
state
board
of
pardons
commissioners.
P
If
you
look
at
section
3,
subsection,
4,
the
law
says
that
if
the
prosecuting
attorney
stipulates
to
the
ceiling,
a
hearing
is
not
required
and
the
judge
can
just
review
that
file
and
order
the
record
sealed
without
a
formal
hearing.
If
the
prosecuting
attorney
objects,
a
hearing
must
be
conducted,
the
law
doesn't
say
what
happens
if
the
prosecuting
attorney
doesn't
respond,
but
it
also
doesn't
specifically
compel
a
response.
P
P
I
want
to
note
that
we
are
still
talking
about
that
timeline
language
and
will
be
working
with
stakeholders
going
forward.
After
this
hearing,
the
city
of
henderson
did
reach
out
and
we're
going
to
work
with
them
on
that
timeline,
because
the
process
works
a
little
bit
differently
in
municipal
court
than
it
does
in
district
court.
P
Section
5,
subsection
7
will
also
streamline
the
process
for
someone
who
has
been
acquitted
for
whom
prosecution
has
been
declined
or
for
whom
charges
were
dropped,
requiring
that
the
court
shall
seal
their
records
as
well
and
then.
Lastly,
for
section
six,
I
will
refer
you
to
the
conceptual
amendment
chairman
yeager
has
provided.
P
A
Thank
you,
madam
vice
chair,
steve
yeager,
for
the
record,
given
that
it's
friday
and
we're
a
couple
hours
into
the
meeting,
I
think
we're
ready
for
questions.
D
P
P
I
I
believe
we
intended
judicial,
so
we
can
make
that
note.
D
When
I
was
working
several
years
ago
for
the
dp
department
of
public
safety,
the
criminal
history
records
was
under
my
purview,
and
I
will
say
this
really
was
a
problem.
People
did
not
know
and
they
were
calling
in
complaining
thinking
that
they
got
a
part
that
got
a
pardon
and
thinking
that
the
record
was
sealed.
So
it
really
is
a
very
decent
bill
and
I
appreciate
chair
jaeger
bringing
it
forward.
I
just
wish
he
had
asked
if
other
people
could
sign
on,
because
I'd
like
to.
A
Steve
yeager
for
the
record
assemblyman.
I
you
probably
noticed
most
of
my
bills.
I
haven't
asked
anyone
to
sign
on
because
I've
been
rushing
to
get
them
down
to
the
front
desk,
but
certainly
would
welcome
anyone
else
to
sign
on
to
the
bill.
Since
we're
going
to
be
doing
an
amendment
anyway,
we
can
do
that
through
the
amendment
process.
A
D
Thank
you
vice
chair.
I
I
would
make
a
recommendation
just
as
a
consideration
that,
instead
of
10
judicial
days,
possibly.
P
Thank
you,
assembly,
woman,
bailey
borderland,
for
the
record
that
was
brought
up
that
the
civil
rules
of
procedure.
Do
you
have
that
opposition
14-day
timeline,
so
that
was
certainly
something
I
was
going
to
bring
up
when
we
meet
with
the
stakeholders
to
see.
If
we
can
all
agree
on
a
timeline.
D
Thank
you
vice
chair
for
the
opportunity
and
thank
you
for
the
bill
and
and
an
opportunity
to
understand
work.
So
in
section
one
when
it
talks
about
unconditional
pardon
versus
in
in
section
1
sub
2,
just
regular
pardon,
could
you
help
me
understand
what
the
difference
is.
So
if
you
have
an
unconditional,
be
an
automatic
versus
the
regular
pardon,
what
kinds
of
things
make
a
a
parting
unconditional
versus
conditional?
I
guess.
P
Thank
you
for
the
question,
bailey
borderlin
for
the
record.
You
know
I
am
not
a
pardon's
attorney,
so
I'm
not
sure
if
sophia
romero
knows
the
answer
either,
but
if
not,
I
believe
we
do
have
some
criminal
law
attorneys
that
could
speak
to
that
either
now
or
when
they
speak
later
on
in
the
bill.
And
if
you
don't
get
an
answer
to
that
question,
I
will
follow
up
with
you.
D
The
reason
I'm
asking
is
just
so
I
can
understand
you
know.
Yes,
it's
important
that
it
be
an
automatic
ceiling
when
it's
unconditional,
but
when
it's
not
what
what
kinds
of
crimes
or
issues
are
we
considering
when
we're
they're
going
to
seek
to
ask
for
ceiling
just
out
of
curiosity.
A
Man
vice
chair-
this
is
steve
yeager
for
the
record.
I
believe
we
have
miss
christina
wildeveld
with
us
on
the
zoom
she
might
just
be
with
us
by
audio.
I
think
she
intended
to
give
some
type
of
testimony
on
the
bill,
but
she
probably
does
more
harden
work
than
anybody
else
in
the
state.
So
if
you
would
allow
her
and
she's
available,
she
may
be
able
to
answer
that
question.
C
Q
Thank
you
assemblywoman.
This
is
christina
and
chairman
yeager.
This
is
christina
wildeveld.
The
difference
between
a
conditional
and
an
unconditional
pardon
is
when
it's
conditional.
You
do
not
have
your
gun
rights
back
so,
and
you
also
have
to
complete
some
terms
that
the
the
board
may
require.
However,
usually
the
unconditional
pardon.
C
Convenient
to
have
like
these
experts
just
on
this
zoom
call,
so
thank
you
miss
well-developed
for
that
answer.
I
appreciate
you
being
in
here
and
being
able
to
answer
that
question
for
us.
I'm
taking
a
look
here.
Are
there
any
other
individuals
or
committee
members
with
questions?
E
You
very
much
vice
chairwin
and
chairman
yeager
for
this
presentation
and
this
bill.
If
someone
one
of
your
experts
could
kind
of
clarify
for
me
the
filing
of
an
objection
by
the
prosecutor
and
and
what
that
the
purpose,
what
that
means,
I,
I
would
just
like
some
further
understanding.
D
Sophia
romero
for
the
record.
Thank
you
assemblywoman
for
the
question.
Through
vice
chair
to
the
assemblywoman,
when
somebody
petitions
to
steal
their
records,
there
could
be
two
different
processes,
depending
on
where
they're
filing
that
petition.
So
if
you're
in
the
district
court-
and
you
have
let's
say,
charges
in
henderson
or
charges
in
north
las
vegas,
that
petition
gets
sent
to
the
north,
las
vegas
or
henderson
city
attorney
first,
and
that
city
attorney
has
the
opportunity
to
review
that
and
then
decide
whether
or
not
to
sign
off
on.
D
Yes,
this
person
should
have
the
record
seal
or
no.
We
don't
agree
that
this
person
should
have
the
record.
So
when
they
choose
not
to
sign
off,
the
petitioner
is
still
allowed
to
file
with
the
district
court.
D
But
then
that
means
that
there
will
be
a
hearing
set
and
then
the
the
the
district
attorney
or
the
city
attorney
will
then
have
the
opportunity
to
file
an
objection
with
the
court
and
put
on
the
record
why
they
believe
that
this
person
should
not
have
their
records
sealed,
and
so
that
is
what
the
10-day
well,
of
course,
where
we
will
be
discussing
that
time
frame.
E
Assemblywoman,
so
without
this
clarification
and
and
the
time
certain
set,
what
is
happening
right
now,
if
there
is
an
objection
or
does,
does
the
person
who
is
asking
for
the
ceiling
get
an
answer?
Are
they
just
left
hanging
what's
going
on
right
now
that
is
making
you
all
clarify
this
this
language?
Thank
you.
P
Bailey
bordelin
for
the
record.
Thank
you
for
the
question
assemblywoman.
I
want
to
note
that
it
is
working
in
many
places
in
the
state
we
in
in
many
counties
and
in
many
courts
we
are
always
receiving
one
or
the
other,
and
so
there
are
courts
where
this
is
not
a
problem.
P
C
Thank
you.
Do
we
have
any
other
questions
regarding
this
bill.
C
Seeing
none
and
we'll
give
our
broadcast
services
just
a
little
bit
of
time
to
set
people
up
in
testimony
and
support
opposition
in
neutral
of
assembly
bill
119..
C
I
do
believe
that
we
have
is
miss
wildebell
here
to
testify
and
support.
I
am
here.
D
C
Yes,
so
I
see
she's,
she
appears
to
be
the
only
person
in
on
the
zoom.
So
if
we
could
start
with
her,
I
would
remind
our
members
to
our
the
public
to
please
really
clearly
state
your
name
and
sell
it
for
the
record.
I
will
limit
our
testimony
to
two
minutes
on
here.
We
will
be
telling
each
speaker
to
ensure
everyone's
given
a
fair
opportunity
to
speak,
and
with
that
we
will
begin
with
support
testimony
with
miss
wildebell
on
the
zoo.
Q
Q
However,
this
bill
works
to
help
all
individuals,
even
lawyers,
I
might
add-
who
have
difficulty
navigating
the
ceiling
system
currently
set
up.
As
chairman
yeager
had
indicated,
it
is
a
difficult
process.
It's
also
a
process
that
a
lot
of
attorneys
actually
get
bar
complaints
about
and
find
themselves
in
trouble
about,
because
it's
not
as
simple
as
one
might
think
it
is
to
be
this
bill
would
help
to
streamline
that
the
ceiling
of
criminal
records
for
certain
individuals,
including
those
who
have
been
pardoned
and
those
whose
cases
have
been
dismissed
or
denied.
Q
Q
If
a
case
was
negotiated
with
the
forward
thought
of
actually
sealing
a
record
at
some
point,
most
sex
offenses
can't
be
sealed.
Q
This
actually
takes
the
discretion
away
from
the
judges.
When
those
cases
should
be
par
should
be
sealed,
it
was
contemplated
that
the
record
would
be
sealed
both
by
all
parties
involved,
but
the
defendant,
the
defense
attorney
and
the
prosecutor.
But
each
individual
judge
feels
that
they
have
to
make
a
record
as
to
why
they
object
to
it,
and
then
they
deny
the
sealing
process
when
all
parties
had
agreed
previously.
Q
So
it
takes
a
discretion
out
so
that
it's
statutorily
allowed
rather
than
discretionarily
allowed,
so
that
the
judges
don't
have
as
much
a
problem
sealing
the
record,
because
it's
pursuant
to
statute
there's
no
rational
basis
for
the
way
the
current
system
operates.
When
it
comes
to
these
classes
of
cases,
it's
a
miscarriage
of
justice
that
the
classes
of
cases
are
the
denied,
dismissed,
pardoned
or
any
of
the
cases
that
might
raise
an
objection.
Q
It's
a
miscarriage
of
justice
to
allow
the
criminal
records
of
these
individuals
or
whose
cases
are
dismissed
to
have
the
offenses
remain
on
their
records
by
requiring
the
courts
to
grant
the
ceiling
of
the
case
without
a
hearing.
If
all
statutory
requirements
are
met
will
allow
for
a
more
just
in
a
streamlined
criminal
justice
system.
C
Thank
you
for
that
testimony.
It
appeared
that
you
were
perhaps
reading
from
something.
So
I
would
encourage
you
if
you
feel
comfortable
to
also
submit
that
in
writing.
So
it
can
be
a
part
of
today's
testimony
and
support,
and
with
that
we
will
go,
it
doesn't
look
like
there's
anyone
else
on
the
zoom
that
has
been
registered
so
broadcast
services.
If
we
can
go
to
our
phone
lines
in
testimony
in
support
of
assembly
bill.
C
Oh,
what
number
is
it
to
219.
L
L
K
Morning,
madam
vice
chair
and
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
john
pirro
j-o-h-n-p-I-r-o
from
the
clark
county
public
defender's
office.
Stealing
records
has
been
a
pet
project
of
mine
since
2017,
and
I'm
grateful
for
all
the
progress
that
the
legislature
has
made
over
the
last
two
sessions
in
this
arena.
This
is
another
step
in
progress,
and
I
want
to
explain
why
it's
necessary.
K
K
You
may
remember
this
name
from
a
recent
article
on
february
12
2021,
where
he
was
awarded
money
from
the
state
because
of
his
wrongful
conviction.
Nevertheless,
even
though
he
was
pardoned
and
the
state
opposed
his
pardon,
they
then
opposed
his
record
sealing
in
2016
and
made
it
very
difficult
for
mr
mason
to
move
on
with
his
life.
K
C
L
I
Hello
and
thank
you
vice
chairwin
and
committee
members-
this
is
nick
schipec
and
I
c-k-s-h-e-p-a-c-k
policy
and
program
associate
with
the
aclu
of
nevada.
We
want
to
thank
chair
yeager
and
ms
swordland
for
presenting
this
very
important
belt.
As
we
know,
criminal
records
can
stick
with
a
person
for
life.
Felony
conviction
can
create
permanent
barriers
that
stand
in
the
way
of
people's
ability
to
move
on
with
their
lives.
I
These
records
are
a
kind
of
scarlet
letter
that
people
with
convictions
carry
for
life
pardons,
are
designed
to
help
those
who
are
deserving
of
relief.
This
body
worked
hard
in
2019
to
create
a
path
for
sailing
past
marijuana
convictions.
We
were
not
alone
in
the
same
year,
27
states
in
dc
enacted
new
laws,
creating
expanding
or
streamlining
record
relief
because
of
the
difficulties
in
navigating
these
systems
from
eligibility
criteria
that
are
frequently
complex
and
unclear
to
court
proceedings
that
that
can
be
intimidating,
burdensome
and
expensive.
I
Many
potential
beneficiaries
of
these
records
ceiling
laws
find
it
hard
them
hard
to
navigate
these
and
other
barriers
to
access
have
been
shown
to
discourage
the
law's
intended
beneficiary.
I
This
bill
is
a
great
step
towards
streamlining
the
record
sealing
process
and
ensuring
that
those
who
receive
pardons
not
only
have
access
to
the
ceiling
process,
but
can
understand
it.
The
appeal,
the
appellate
process
added
by
the
amendment,
is
also
a
welcome
addition
to
this
bill.
We
urge
you
to
support
this
bill
for
the
reasons
I
stated
and
the
reasons
stated
by
our
colleagues
before
us
and
to
continue
to
work
on
reform
to
the
record-sealing
process
to
make
it
more
efficient
and
accessible.
Thank
you
very
much.
L
K
Good
morning,
madam
vice
chair
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
john
mccormick,
j-o-h-n
last
name
m-c-c-o-r-m-I-c-k,
I'm
the
assistant
court
administrator
with
the
nevada
supreme
court
administrative
office
of
the
courts
and
chief
justice.
Hardesty
asked
me
to
call
in
today
to
put
the
supreme
court's
support
of
this
measure
on
record
and
also
to
indicate
that
this
major
will
be
helpful
in
executing
or
executing
the
ceiling
of
records
for
those
people
who
the
pardons
board
granted
a
pardon
for
for
minor
marijuana
convictions.
L
C
E
L
C
Good
morning
vice
chair
and
members
of
the
assembly
judiciary,
this
is
kendra
burchie,
k-e-n-d-r-a
b-e-r-t-s-e-h-y,
with
the
washoe
county
public
defender's
office.
I
want
to
thank
chairman
yeager
for
championing
this
crucial
issue
over
this
session,
as
well
as
been
passed
with
legal
aid
to
work
towards
clarifying
this
incredibly
arduous
and
confusing
process.
C
This
bill
provides
our
citizens
with
an
easier
way
in
order
to
receive
the
benefit
of
sealing
their
records
that
they
have
earned.
It
is
incredibly
impactful
to
hear
from
those
that
are
directly
impacted
by
this
issue,
with
exactly
how
important
the
stealing
process
is
for
those
in
the
committee
who
have
some
concerns.
C
I
would
urge
you
to
read,
or
at
least
watch
the
committee
hearing
on
march
28th,
where
demarlo
berry
testified
about
the
terrifying
situation
that
he
was
in
any
time
he
was
pulled
over
by
law
enforcement
because
as
soon
as
they
went
and
checked
to
see
his
record
just
a
concern
and
confusion
that
it
would
create,
despite
having
his
paperwork
and
certificate
of
innocence.
So
this
is
an
incredibly
important
tool
to
provide
a
second
chance
to
allow
people
to
rebuild
their
lives.
C
L
J
L
C
L
L
M
J-E-N-N-I-F-E-R-N-O-B-L-E-
and
I
am
testifying
on
behalf
of
the
nevada
district
attorney's
association
pursuant
to
the
committee
rules,
I'm
testifying
in
opposition
here
today,
because
we
have
a
few
suggested
changes
to
this
bill.
But
I
would
like
to
thank
terry
yeager
and
ms
bortland
to
hearing
our
concerns
and
we
look
forward
to
working
with
them
so
that
we
can
get
to
a
position
of
support
regarding
assembly
bill
219..
M
We
have
a
few
concerns
about
some
of
the
language
in
section
four
sub
six
of
the
bill.
Our
first
concern
was
that
the
ten
day
time
period,
as
was
referenced
during
the
testimony
in
section
4
6,
might
be
a
little
bit
too
short.
Given
the
number
of
stealing
petitions
we've
seen
in
recent
years,
because
our
legislature
has
opened
up
that
option
for
a
lot
more
people
in
previous
sessions,
for
example,
in
washoe
county,
we
have
a
local
rule
that
gives
us
21
days
to
respond.
M
Second,
we're
concerned
about
section
476
requirement
that
feeling
the
automatic
if
no
prosecuting
attorney,
attends
a
ceiling
hearing,
as
it
removes
the
important
element
of
judicial
discretion,
and
it
overlooks
the
statutory
requirement
that
any
person
having
relevant
evidence
may
testify.
Regarding
the
petition,
our
supreme
court
has
explained
that
stealing
orders
are
intended
to
permit
individuals
previously
involved
with
the
criminal
justice
system
to
pursue
I'm
sorry
to
pursue
law-abiding
citizenship
unencumbered
by
the
records
of
any
past
transgressions,
and
it's
an
important
step
in
allowing
these
deserving
individuals
to
contribute
to
society
unencumbered
by
that.
M
But
while
eligibility
for
stealing
is
prescribed
by
statute,
we
elect
and
trust
our
judges
to
exercise
their
discretion
in
determining
whether
or
not
feeling
is
just
in
a
particular
case.
Even
if
the
prosecutor
doesn't
attend
the
hearing,
nrs
179.245
allows
quote
any
person
having
relevant
evidence.
As
I
stated
to
attend
and
present
evidence
at
the
hearing
on
the
petition.
Those
people
could
include
law
enforcement,
victims
and
members
of
the
community,
and
they
can
all
help
inform
the
judge's
ultimate
exercise
of
their
judicial
discretion.
M
Finally,
I
apologize
to
chur
yeager
and
ms
borland,
because
we
just
caught
this
concern
this
morning,
so
I
haven't
discussed
it
with
them.
Yet
we
are
a
little
concerned
with
section
4
sub
7b's
language
regarding
stealing
records
where
prosecution
was
declined
or
charges
were
dismissed
in
certain
cases
we're
not
able
to
initially
file
charges.
M
So
we
just
ask
that
we
have,
we
apply
a
period
of
time
commensurate
with
the
statute
of
limitations
applicable
to
the
particular
offense
or
offenses
that
are
being
considered
to
that
section.
Hopefully
that
makes
sense.
As
always,
we
really
appreciate
your
consideration,
our
concerns
and
we
are
looking
forward
to
working
with
chair
yeager,
ms
bortland
and
all
the
stakeholders
on
this
important
bill.
Thank
you.
L
C
C
A
Thank
you
so
much,
madam
vice
chair,
steve
yeager,
for
the
record
record
sealing
is
an
issue
that
we've
been
working
on
for
a
lot
of
years.
It's
overly
complicated
in
the
state
of
nevada.
I
think
this
helps
move
the
process
forward.
I
want
to
thank
miss
bortolin,
who
has
done
tremendous
work
in
this
issue
and
miss
noble
as
well.
The
da's
office
has
been
very
willing
partners
to
talk
about
these
issues,
and
I
understand
we
had
a
very
tight
turnaround
from
when
the
bill
was
introduced
to
when
we're
hearing
it.
A
So
I
appreciate
her
expressing
those
concerns
and
a
willingness
to
work
together,
and
I
do
believe
we're
going
to
be
able
to
find
some
common
ground
here
to
hopefully
make
this
process
just
a
little
bit
simpler
for
those
who
really
do
deserve
to
have
their
records
sealed,
and
so
madame
vice
chair
with
that,
I
would
just
hand
it
over
to
ms
bortle
if
she
had
any
concluding
remarks,
because
she's
done
most
of
the
hard
work
on
this
bill
go.
P
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
bailey
bortlin
for
the
record.
I
would
just
echo
that
we
appreciate
sherman
yeager,
always
making
progress
in
the
area
and
the
committee's
willingness
to
look
into
this,
and
we
will.
We
do
hope
to
come
back
with
something
that
everyone
agrees
is
a
workable
step
forward.
So
thank
you
and
happy
friday.
C
A
Thank
you,
madam
vice
chair,
for
running
the
meeting.
I
think
we
need
a
a
gavel
emoji
on
zoom,
so
we
can
actually
pass
the
gavel
back
and
forth.
Maybe
that's
an
upgrade.
Oh
you
have
one
in
front
of
you.
I
don't
have
an
actual
gavel
in
here
so
anyway,
committee.
Thank
you
for
for
your
attention
this
morning
and
before
we
conclude,
I'm
gonna
go
to
our
last
item
on
the
agenda,
which
is
public
comment.
By
way
of
reminder,
we
have
30
minutes
for
public
comment
at
the
end
of
each
meeting.
A
Public
commenter
will
have
two
minutes
to
provide
public
comment.
Public
comment
is
a
time
to
provide
testimony
about
matters
of
a
general
nature
that
that
are
in
the
jurisdiction
of
the
assembly
judiciary,
committee
bps.
Could
we
go
to
the
public
comment
line
and
see
if
there's
anybody
there
who'd
like
to
give
public
comment?
This.
L
L
E
I
would
like
to
thank
all
the
committee
members
for
their
hard
work.
I
see
a
lot
of
bills
coming
down
the
pipeline
that
look
good
ab243.
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
I
did
send
an
email
to
the
sponsor
of
the
bill.
I
do
think
it
impacted
a
person
directly
impacted
by
police.
Violence
should
be
on
that
committee,
that's
being
suggested
today.
I
want
to
talk
about
roy
anthony
scott,
who
was
killed
march
3rd
2019.
E
In
a
time
when
george
floyd's
death
took
national
headlines,
I
think
it's
time
to
acknowledge.
Nevada's
own
george
floyd's
roy
anthony
scott
was
killed
on
march
13
2019.
He
had
called
police
saying
that
there
were
armed
men
or
an
armed
man
outside
his
home.
When
police
came,
he
initially
wouldn't
open
the
door
told
them
to
kick
it
in
when
they
were,
they
ended
up
going
to
leave.
He
came
out
then,
and
they
attempted
to
handcuff
him
and
that's
when
he
became
resistant
asking.
E
E
L
E
Hi,
my
name
is
anthony
thomas
jr,
a
n
t,
h,
o
n
y
t
h,
o
m
a
s
j,
r,
anthony
thomas
jr,
I'm
I'm
an
ambassador
with
make
it
work,
nevada,
a
member
of
the
nevada,
housing
justice
alliance.
Nevada
has
one
of
the
fastest
eviction
processes
in
the
country,
and
this
process
is
disproportionately
impacting
black
and
brown
families.
E
A
A
Thank
you,
bps
for
helping
us
with
all
the
testimony
this
morning,
definitely
appreciate
it.
I'm
going
to
close
public
comment
and
before
we
talk
about
next
week,
anything
else
from
our
committee
members
this
morning
I
don't
see
anything.
I
know
it's
been
a
really
long
week
and
it
was
a
long
meeting.
So
thank
you
all.
I
wish
I
could
promise
you
that
things
would
slow
down,
but
I
think
to
the
contrary,
things
are
going
to
get
busier
from
here
on
out,
as
we
continue
to
get
more
builds
in
terms
of
the
schedule.
A
Next
week
we
have
agendas
out
for
monday
and
tuesday
monday
we're
going
to
start
at
10
a.m.
So
hopefully
that'll
give
folks
a
couple
extra
hours,
a
reminder
that
it's
daylight
savings
time
this
weekend.
So
we're
going
to
lose
an
hour
on
saturday
night
sunday
morning,
so
we'll
have
a
10
a.m.
Start
monday,
we'll
be
hearing
one
bill,
tuesday
agenda
we're
starting
at
eight
right
now.
There
is
one
bill
on
the
agenda.
We
may
add
some
additional
bills.
A
We
don't
have
agendas
out
for
the
rest
of
the
week,
but
just
in
terms
of
planning
I
do
anticipate.
We
will
probably
have
assembly
judiciary
committee
every
day
next
week
and
likely
eight
o'clock
starts
after
monday
as
we'll
try
to
get
through
bills,
so
make
sure
you
get
some
rest
this
week
next
week
this
weekend
next
week
is
going
to
be
long
as
well.
Thank
you
all
again.
I
hope
you
have
a
wonderful
weekend
and
you
stay
safe
out
there
and
we'll
see
you
back
in
this
committee
monday
morning
at
10.
Am
this
meeting
is.