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A
D
A
Thank
you-
and
I
am
here-
please
mark
assemblywoman
black
and
someone
titus
president
as
they
arrive.
I
know
that
they're
in
health
and
human
services
committee
right
now
and
we'll
try
and
keep
an
eye
out
for
them
and
make
the
secretary
aware
once
they
are
present.
A
Before
we
get
started,
I'd
like
to
go
through
a
few
quick
housekeeping
announcements,
as
usual
members,
please
make
sure
to
meet
yourselves
when
you're,
not
speaking
to
minimize
background
noise
for
members
of
the
public.
You
can
participate
in
our
meetings
in
a
variety
of
ways.
Information
on
how
to
do
so
can
be
found
on
every
meeting
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for
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committee,
as
well
as
on
the
help
page
at
the
nevada
legislature's
website.
A
You
can
also
provide
written
comments
emailed
to
our
committee
email
address
before
during
or
up
to
48
hours
after
the
meeting,
and
you
can
find
that
on
our
agendas
or
website
committee,
exhibits
or
amendments
must
be
submitted
electronically
in
pdf
form
to
our
committee
manager
no
later
than
4
p.m.
The
day
prior
to
the
meeting,
any
amendments
must
include
bill
number
statement
of
intent
and
contact
information.
A
A
I
think
what
we'll
do
is
take
things
out
of
order
we're
going
to
do
assembly
bill
433,
then
after
that
we'll
see
where
things
are
at.
We
may
go
into
work
session,
then
so
we'll
just
play
it
by
ear.
So
with
that,
I'm
going
to
open
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
433,
which
revises
provisions
relating
to
the
sagebrush
ecosystem
council.
A
I
believe
we
have
mr
lawrence
with
the
department
of
conservation
and
natural
resources.
Please
go
ahead
and
introduce
yourself
for
the
record.
You
can
proceed
whenever
you're
ready.
E
Good
afternoon,
chair
watts
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record,
I'm
kelly
mcgowan
program
manager
for
the
sagebrush
ecosystem
program
within
the
department
of
conservation
and
natural
resources,
and
yes,
jim
lawrence,
was
hoping
to
be
here
to
provide
this
testimony,
but
he's
in
a
concurrent
session
or
meeting
right
now
providing
some
testimony.
So
I'm
sure
if
he
can
he'll
join
us.
E
More
recently,
the
sagebrush
ecosystem
council
adopted
regulations
requiring
the
use
of
the
ccs
to
mitigate
for
planned
anthropogenic
disturbances.
On
public
lands,
generally
speaking,
the
credit
system
is
a
habitat
exchange
in
which
landowners
voluntarily
carry
out
habitat
protection
and
improvement
projects
to
offset
anthropogenic
disturbances
in
sage
grouse
habitats.
E
An
equal
amount
of
credits
must
be
purchased
with
management
agreements
in
place
prior
to
the
development
project.
Moving
forward,
the
sagebrush
ecosystem
program
is
responsible
for
certifying
that
the
debit
and
credit
calculations
are
accurate
and
that
the
transfer
of
credits
has
occurred
with
all
the
required
financial
assurances
and
monitoring
plans
in
place.
E
E
E
E
A
Thank
you
I'd
like
to
note
that
titus
is
present
and
we'll
start
off
questions
with
the
assemblywoman.
F
F
We've
heard
about
this
now,
multiple
sessions,
conceptually
it
started
back
when
we
were
first
mitigating
the
impact
and
trying
to
avoid
sage
grouse
going
on
the
endangered
species
list,
and
this
is
one
of
the
solutions,
and
so
we
already
have
this
program
without
fees,
because
this
establishes
new
fees.
Has
it
been.
E
Thank
you
assembly,
woman
titus,
so
that
can
be
a
challenging
question
to
answer.
We
feel
that
the
the
program
the
mitigation
has
been
successful
in
that
the
system
is
set
up
to
compensate
for
disturbances
and
for
those
since
the
regulation
has
been
passed
and
now
it's
required
to
be
used.
Those
operating
within
sage,
grouse,
habitat,
have
mitigated
and
and
used
the
ccs
for
that
purpose,
and
so
I
would
say
yes
at
this
point:
the
system
has
been
successful.
F
E
Thank
you,
assemblywoman
titus.
I
don't
have
that
those
numbers
in
front
of
me
right
now,
but
I'd
certainly
be
happy
to
provide
those
to
you
following
this
meeting,
but
it's
in
the
tens
of
thousands
of
acres
that
have
been
protected
today.
F
H
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair,
and,
as
has
become
the
the
norm
in
this
session,
I've
never
seen
it
in
other
sessions
the
way
it
is
this
session,
but
two-thirds
bills
seem
to
have
a
target
on
them.
So
I
think
it's
probably
good
to
have
a
conversation
about
the
the
the
purpose
behind
these
fees
right
now
in
in
the
past,
I
believe
they
were
just
budgeted
through
the
account,
but
now
we're
talking
about
a
fee.
So
if
this
fee
does
not
come
to
fruition,
how
will
your
work
get
done?
G
E
Kelly
mcgowan
for
the
record,
thank
you
for
the
question.
Assemblywoman
carlton,
so
how
we've
operated
to
date
has
been
primarily
within
our
state,
appropriated,
general
fund
budget
and
and
we
would
have
to
continue
to
operate
that
way.
We
do
rely
heavily
on
on
other
state
agency
partners
and
federal
partners
to
help
develop
some
of
the
science,
but
on
the
side
of
the
mitigation
and
and
and
operating
the
mitigation,
we
would
have
to
find
a
way,
unfortunately,
to
continue
to
work
within
the
confines
of
our
existing
budget.
H
How
about
how
much
does
this
cost
you
guys
in
a
biennium,
and
I
hate
to
go
down
the
ways
and
means
road,
mr
chairman,
but
it
seems
as
though,
with
the
perspective
on
two-thirds
bills
that
we're
facing
over
the
next
40-some
days.
I
want
to
know
if
there's
options
and
what
those
costs
might
be,
because
I
consider
this
very
important
work
that
I
don't
want
to
see
sidelined
because
of
a
philosophical
opposition
to
a
two-thirds
bill.
So
if
I
could
just
get
that
information.
A
Thank
you
and
I
I
will
allow
that
I
know
it
is
you
know
we
are.
This
is
a
tight
line
between
a
policy
and
fiscal
matter,
but
essentially
the
the
thrust
of
this
bill
is
enabling
a
revenue
mechanism.
So
if
the
department
can
can
address
the
assemblywoman's
question,
I
appreciate
it.
E
Thank
you
for
the
question
assemblywoman.
This
is
kelly
mcgowan
for
the
record,
of
course,
our
budget
composes
of
many
parts,
and
so
I
can
give
you
a
ballpark
that
generally
it's
around
a
half
a
million
dollars
and
annually
to
operate
our
program.
H
Okay,
thank
you
and
and
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
for
the
latitude.
I
I've
been
around
long
enough
to
remember
the
conversations
with
former
assemblyman
bob
zeem
about
this
and
when
we
look
at
all
the
good
work
that
has
been
done-
and
we
know
times-
are
tight
and
the
division
and
is
is
being
responsible
and
asking
for
a
fee
to
help
mitigate
some
of
the
general
fund
dollars.
But
we
also
know
the
other
side
of
that
equation.
A
Thank
you.
I
believe
we
have
a
question
from
assemblywoman
hanson.
I
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you,
mr
lauren.
It's
mr
lawrence
right,
I'm
sorry!
I
was
having
trouble
hearing
a
little
bit,
so
I
hope
I
got
your
name
right.
Can
you
give
the
program's
been
in
existence,
but
for
those
who
are
new,
could
you
maybe
give
an
example?
A
real
life
example
of
some
of
the
work
or
maybe
a
project,
or
so
that
so
that
we
can
have
a
better
understanding.
E
So
I
guess
that
one
of
the
examples
would
be
so
right
now,
all
of
the
credit
developers
within
the
system
and
they're
the
people
providing
improving
habitat
for
private
landowners,
mostly
farmers
and
ranchers,
with
fairly
large
land
holdings
within
sage
grouse
habitat.
E
E
Conservation
can
be
done
to
increase
or
improve
upon
the
habitat,
and
so
they
implement
those.
They
have
a
robust
annual
monitoring
plan
that
they
have
to
send
to
us
annually
every
15
years.
They
do
full
re-verification
of
their
project
to
see
if
it's
still
holding
the
values
that
were
measured
to
begin
with
and
then
ultimately
those
credit
projects
are
put
on
the
open
market
for
sale
to
those
that
need
to
purchase
them.
E
And
so
we
have,
as
I
stated
earlier,
expiration
mining,
geothermal
electron,
electric
transmission
power
lines
and
a
number
of
others
that
have
reached
out
and,
and
we
to
date
I
believe,
had
16
transactions
within
the
within
our
program
to
offset
these
disturbances.
E
So
I
think
it's
beneficial
to
our
private
owners
and
and
it's
of
course
beneficial
to
the
sage
grouse.
Some
of
these
private
lands
are
the
most
productive
lands
in
the
state.
Many
of
them
contain
limited
water
resources
and
and
very
productive
habitats.
E
There
is
an
opportunity
for
entities
to
create
credits
on
public
land,
as
well
as,
as
I
mentioned,
fire
and
invasives,
and
other
issues
that
occur
or
that
can
occur
on
public
land
are
also
in
green,
great
need
of
conservation.
I
Thank
you
for
that,
mr
mcgowan.
I'm
so
sorry
about
that.
I
was
looking
at
the
wrong
name
on
my,
so
thank
you
for
giving
that
overview
appreciate
it.
C
And
thank
you,
mr
mcgowan,
for
stepping
in
and
preparing
the
bill
so
quickly
and
succinctly.
My
question
has
to
do
with
section.
I
believe
it's
7e,
it's
on
page
4.,
it's
the
new
language
of
between
lines
10
through
14..
C
So
this
is
my
first
time
reading
information
such
as
this.
So
I'm
just
wanting
to
make
sure
that
I
understand
the
counsel
correctly,
and
I
know
I
recognize
that
in
section
two
there
are
members
that
are
appointed,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
understanding
that
the
regulations
that
are
being
adopted
would
come
from
these
volunteer
members
who
are
representing
these
areas
that
are
listed
in
section
two.
E
Thank
you,
assemblywoman
anderson.
I
appreciate
the
question
kelly
mcgowan
for
the
record.
Yes,
the
the
feast,
the
fees
would
be
established
through
the
sagebrush
ecosystem
council,
which
is
a
governor-appointed
body
that
we
serve
this
staff
to.
If
that
was.
A
Seeing
none
thank
you
very
much
for
the
presentation
with
that
we'll
go
to
testimony
on
this
bill
as
a
reminder.
In
order
to
provide
testimony,
you
must
register
on
the
legislative
website
where
you'll
be
given
the
information
to
dial
in.
We
ask
that
you
limit
your
comments
to
two
minutes
and
clearly
state
and
spell
your
name
at
the
beginning
before
starting
your
testimony
with
that
we'll
open
with
testimony
in
support
of
assembly
bill
433.
K
K
These
threats
degrade,
convert
and
fragment
sagebrush
habitats,
restoration
and
mitigation
actions
that
preserve
the
integrity
and
connectivity
of
the
of
the
sagebrush
ecosystem
are
critical.
This
bill
will
increase
revenue
to
mitigate
damage
to
these
very
special
space
spaces,
and
we
urge
the
committee
support.
Thank
you.
A
K
A
Yes,
you
may
we,
we
have
had
some
technical
difficulties
with
people
being
able
to
get
in.
So
it's
no
problem
at
all.
Please
proceed.
Please.
K
Thank
you,
chairman
watson,
good
afternoon,
assemblymen
and
women
for
the
record.
My
name
is
tiffany
east
and
I'm
the
chairwoman
of
the
nevada
board
of
wildlife
commissioners.
The
legislative
committee
of
the
commission
voted
to
support,
ab-433
and
I'll.
Keep
this
brief
mitigation
efforts
to
protect,
enhance
or
restore
sagebrush
ecosystems
provides
a
firewall
for
sage,
grouse
and
other
sagebrush
obligates
such
as
mule
deer.
This
ecosystem
is
critical
to
their
survival.
Many
of
the
programs
under
the
sagebrush
ecosystem
council
complements
the
work
of
endow
and
the
wildlife
commission
to
provide
and
protect
habitat
for
nevada's
wildlife.
A
J
A
Thank
you
and
I
believe
we
have
mr
tibbetts
on
the
zoom
who
would
like
to
provide
testimony
in
the
neutral
position.
Mr
tibbetts
go
ahead
and
proceed
whenever
you're
ready.
L
Thank
you,
mr
chair
again,
jake
tibbetts,
j-a-k-e-t-I-b-b
I-t-t-s
and
I'm
the
natural
resources
manager
for
eureka
county
speaking
on
behalf
of
eureka
county.
So
again,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
members
of
the
committee
for
allowing
eureka
county
to
provide
some
insights
on
ab-433
in
the
neutral
position.
L
The
continued
dialogue
regarding
the
sagebrush
ecosystem
program
and
its
lack
of
capacity
and
bandwidth
can
only
be
rectified
with
funding
being
statutorily
authorized
to
manage
the
sagebrush
ecosystem
of
nevada
by
the
legislature.
The
program
needs
to
meet
its
obligations,
needs
funding
to
meet
its
obligations
and
to
be
successful,
it's
important
to
understand
that
the
program,
the
sagebrush
ecosystem
council,
sagebrush
ecosystem
technical
team
are
not
only
focused
on
sage-grouse
conservation.
L
L
A
Thank
you,
mr
tibbetts,
and
I
believe
we
had
a
question
from
assemblywoman
carlton,
for
you.
H
And
thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair,
and
I'm
I'm
not
sure.
If
mr
tibbetts
is
the
correct
person
asked,
but
so
in
in
conversations
about
this
bill
with
the
the
folks
that
you
represent,
was
there
an
issue
with
the
fee.
L
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
assemblyman
carlton
for
the
question
so
yeah
I
represent
I'm
representing
the
eureka
county
commissioners
and
they
don't
have
consensus
on
the
issue
related
to
fees.
So
you
know
I
live
in
a
very
conservative
area
and
there's
always
a
concern
about
certain
fees
and
things
like
that,
so
the
board
did
choose
to.
We
did
want
to
come
in
neutral
on
this.
You
know
really
don't
take
a
position
one
way
or
the
other
on
the
fee.
L
Our
point
was
just
to
to
point
out
that
you
know
fee
authority
isn't
going
to
get
us
where
we
need
to
get
on
sagebrows
sage,
grouse
or
even
sagebrush
conservation,
and
it
is
going
to
continue
to
take
legislative
appropriations
beyond
just
the
authority,
and
that
was
the
point
we
wanted
to
bring
forward
thanks.
H
A
Thank
you
and
thank
you,
mr
tibbetts.
I
think
you
make
the
point
clear
that
additional
substantial
investment
is
needed
and
the
revenue
to
support
that
has
to
come
from
somewhere.
A
Missed
all
right,
seeing
none
we'll
turn
it
back
over
to
mr
gallon
for
any
closing
remarks.
You
would
like
to
make.
E
Thank
you,
chair
watts,
and
members
of
the
committee
kelly
mcgowan
again
for
the
record.
E
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
again
for
this
opportunity
to
be
able
to
present
this
bill
to
you,
and
I
would
just
like
to
reiterate
that
the
need
is
great,
the
sage-grouse
habitat
which
isn't
all
of
the
safe
rush
ecosystem,
but
where
sage-grouse
tend
to
exist
and
thrive,
it
alone
is
23
million
acres
of
land,
and
so
we
have
significant
issues
that
that
people
have
identified
that
you've
probably
heard
about
in
the
news
fire
and
invasives
common
raven
populations
exploding
and
and
other
items,
and
it
goes
well
beyond
the
conservation
credit
system
and
our
ability
to
mitigate
it
requires
the
science
and
the
knowledge
to
be
able
to
pinpoint
efforts
so
that
we
no
longer
continue
to
shotgun.
E
A
Thank
you
with
that.
I
will
close
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
433
and
I've
heard
that
we've
got
the
health
and
human
services
committee
wrapping
up.
So
I
think
now
is
an
appropriate
time
to
go
into
our
work
session.
A
A
G
A
good
chair
for
the
record
junction
is
back
with
the
leisure
of
council
bro.
It's
nonpartisan
central
staff
kind
of
get
four
against
any
mexicans
before
this
committee
with
that
and
some
people,
85
was
hurt
in
this
committee
on
march
24th,
and
it
removes
from
statute
provision
that
prohibits
the
state
currently
officer
from
designating
a
weed
as
noxious.
If
the
weed
is
so
well
established
in
the
state
that
its
control
has
been
judged
to
be
impractical.
With
this
preparation
removed,
state
grant
officer
may
declare
by
relation
anywhere
to
be
noxious.
A
Okay,
I
wasn't
on
need.
Thank
you,
mr
speck.
We
have
mr
tibbetts
and
assemblywoman
swank
joining
us
for
any
questions
that
members
may
have
so
and
we
have
one
from
decemberwomen
hanson.
Please
go
ahead.
I
Thank
you
chair.
I
know
we
mentioned
the
amendment
which
was
important,
but
I've
not
seen
it
is
it
just
so
conceptual.
Is
it
in
print?
I
checked
about
an
hour
before
I
got
on,
but
I
saw
in
the
work
session
document
mentioned,
but
I'm
not
seeing
it.
A
A
I
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
for
for
the
potential
amendment
we
need
to
see
it.
I'm
also
we'll
need
once
we
see
that
amendment
to
see
where
the
farm
bureau
is,
I
I
think
we
need
to
get
this
under
control.
I
think
we
I
I
work
with
this
semi-woman
swank.
I
know
she's
on
the
phone
and
providing
that
that
amendment
clarifies
what
the
farm
bureau
and
other
folks
are
concerned
about.
I
I
could
be
supported
by
this
until
I
see
the
amendment
I'm
going
to
be
now.
H
And-
and
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
you
know
it's.
I
just
you
know
for
the
committee's
sake,
this
time
of
session,
we
typically
don't
do
mock-ups.
We
do
things
this
way
in
this
print,
and
this
work
session
document
is
actually
the
the
legislative
intent
on
on
what
we're
doing
legal
does
not
do
mock-ups
any
longer
at
this
time,
because
they're
still
drafting
bills
and
especially
budget
bills
and
budget
amendments.
A
A
Yes,
we
are
going
to
see
a
lot
more,
that
is
provided
in
conceptual
form
and
the
legal
divisions
also
doing
quite
a
work
bit
of
work,
drafting
the
amendments
that
we
have
already
approved
for
for
bills.
To
this
point.
So
thank
you
for
that
clarification,
and
I
know
that
we're
on
the
discussion
for
the
motion,
but
would
just
like
to
note
that
mr
tibbetts
is
is
on
and
can
speak
to
any
of
the
additional
conversations
that
led
to
the
compromise
on
this
bill.
Assemblywoman
handsome
I'll
give
you
a
second.
I
Thank
you,
chair
and-
and
I
appreciate
maybe
I'll
ask
mr
tibbetts
a
question,
but
I
and
I
do
understand
during
work
session
that
this
gets
busy
and
things
happen
last.
I
just
thought
the
amendment
had
been
in
the
process
for
quite
some
time.
So,
mr
tibbetts,
could
you
tell
me
maybe,
when
eureka
county
was
working
on
an
amendment.
L
Thank
you
so
yeah
we've
been
working.
I
want
to
thank
dr
swank.
You
know
we.
We
had
a
a
few
text,
exchanges
and
email
and
and
had
a
phone
call
or
a
zoom
meeting
as
well
to
talk
over
the
amendment,
so
understanding,
lcb's
busy
and
there's
a
lot
going
on
that.
You
know
it
just
is
what
it
is
at
this
point.
L
Frankly,
I
would
like
to
see
the
language
in
writing
too,
but
understanding
where
we're
at,
I
think
the
conceptual
amendment
that
is
in
the
work
session
does
reflect
the
compromise
that
we've
come
together
with
dr
swank
on
recognizing
that
the
state
quarantine
officer
can
limit
noxious
weed
designations
in
certain
geographic
areas
and
I'll
also
note
that
current
statute
and
nrs
555.150
already
addresses
part
of
our
concern
that
eureka
county
brought
forward
at
the
hearing
is
that
through
regulation
or
through
the
designation
of
noxious
weeds,
the
state
quarantine
officer
can
already
designate
the
manner
which
is
required
to
manage
any
type
of
noxious
weed.
L
So
we
feel
that
that
does
outline
the
specific
management
control
strategies
that
we
had
originally
asked
to
be
amended
in.
So
I
do
think
conceptually
that
this
amendment,
you
know
with
the
legislative
intent
does
get
us
to
where
we
need
to
be
where
the
state
quarantine
officer
could
limit
that
rather
statewide
to
watershed
certain
geographic
areas
or
even
a
neighborhood.
If
the
state
quarantine
officer
felt
that
it
was
necessary.
C
You
thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
just
wanted
to
comment
that
this.
This
wasn't
a
compromise.
Mr
tibbetts
idea
was
a
great
idea.
It
improved
the
bill.
We
had
a
good
meeting
last
week.
It
was
on,
I
want
to
say
on
friday
and
then
we
sent
off
the
the
change
to
lcb,
but
it's
not
a
compromise.
It's
a
better
idea.
A
C
C
N
A
All
right,
we've
got
a
thumbs
up
martinez
and
I
am
a
yes
thank
you.
The
motion
carries
and
I
will
assign
the
floor
statement
to
assemblywoman
brownmay.
A
G
Thank
you,
chair
for
the
record
against
inspect
with
the
research
division
of
lcb
assembly.
Bill.
148
was
certain
committee
on
march
17th
and
it
prohibits
the
issuance
of
an
exploration
or
money
permit
to
any
applicant
who
has
defaulted
on
any
obligation
relating
to
reclamation
or
if
the
application
is
a
corporation
or
the
business
entity.
G
G
If
such
a
person
pays
the
full
amount
of
the
default
obligation
and
demonstrates
that
the
conditions
that
led
to
the
default
have
been
remedied
and
no
longer
exists,
and
there
are
there's
two
amendment,
one
markup
and
one
conceptual
amendment
that
is
in
addition
to
the
markup
they
are
proposed
by
assemblyman
peters
and
the
the
combined
amendment
then
makes
the
following
changes
or
places.
The
reference
to
principal
officer.
G
The
person
who
has
a
controlled
interest
in
the
corporation
or
how
the
best
entity
defines
person
who
has
a
controlled
interest
to
be
a
person
who
also
controls
majority
of
the
voting
stock
or
holds
any
other
control
interest
directly
or
indirectly.
You
know
corporation
or
other
business
entity
that
gives
the
person
the
power
to
direct
management
or
determined
policy
or
is
a
partner.
G
Direct
trustee
or
other
principal
officer
of
the
corporation
or
business
entity
defines
other
principal
offices
to
mean
president
secretary
treasurer
or
influence
they're
off
and
that
that
are
chosen
in
such
a
manner
holds
their
office
for
such
terms
and
have
such
power
and
duties
as
may
be
described
by
the
bylaws
or
return
by
the
board
of
directors
of
the
corporation.
G
Absolutely
the
amendment
provides
that
the
provision
against
being
issued
a
permit
applies
to
an
applicant
or
person
with
a
controlling
interest,
as
applicable,
who
isn't
not
in
good
standing
with
the
federal
agency
governing
the
mine
cooperation
or
any
state
or
charity.
Territory
of
the
united
states
provides
when
a
permit
may
be
issued
to
a
person
who
was
not
in
good
standing
but
who
performed
certain
remedy
remediation
actions
and
change
the
effective
date
upon
passage
and
approval
for
adoption
regulation
for
carrying
out
any
other
preparatory
task
and
april
1st
2022
for
air
or
other.
A
C
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and,
and
just
a
quick
question,
make
sure
I'm
understanding
correctly
assembly,
member
peters
when
it
comes
to
both
the
person
with
the
controlling
interest,
as
well
as
the
the
principal
office
or
this
is
being
defined
in
the
law.
But
then
there
are
there
other
areas
that
are
being
defined
in
regulations.
To
avoid
confusion
that
I
think
have
been
brought
up
during
the
hearing.
I
think
you
and
I
had
had
tried
to
talk
offline
about
it
a
little
bit
so
just
wanted
to
get
that
verification.
O
Thank
you,
assemblywoman
anderson,
sarah
peters,
for
the
record.
Yes,
these
have
been
sticking
points
for
a
number
of
stakeholders,
including
the
state
agency,
who
would
promulgate
these
regulations.
So
we've
been
working
closely
together
on
trying
to
clarify
in
the
statute
as
much
as
they
need
to
be
able
to
promulgate
regulations
to
address
these
issue
issues
in
the
first
in
the
future.
O
I
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you,
assemblymember
peters.
My
question
is
this
idea
of
good
standing
other
states
and
with
federal
agencies
I'm
trying
to
understand
exactly
because
different
states
are
going
to
have
different
standards,
so
you
could
have
a
controlling
interest
that
might
pass
a
standard
and
in
one
state,
but
maybe
not
in
good
standing
in
another
state.
So
does
it
cancel
it?
It
just
seems
very
kind
of
convoluted
and
I
I'm
not
sure
how
you
navigate
that.
O
Thank
you,
assemblywoman
hanson,
sarah
peters,
for
the
record.
This
is
another
place
where
we
had
obvious
concerns
about
the
language
being,
maybe
too
broad.
O
I
really
think
that
the
state
agency
are
the
experts
in
this
area
and
the
regulatory
process,
which
is
a
public
process
that
includes
stakeholders
and
can
go
up
to
18
months
or
so
is
the
place
to
kind
of
drill
down.
What
that
looks
like
for
these
permits,
I
can
tell
you,
having
worked
in
regulatory
permitting
and
compliance
that
when
you
talk
about
good
standing,
that
would
be
outside
of
any
violation
right
and
then
once
a
com,
once
a
permit
is
recognized
as
being
or
permittee
is
recognized
as
being
in
violation
of
their
permit.
O
They
put
together
a
plan
with
the
regulatory
agency
typically,
and
once
they
have
instituted
that
plan
right
and
agreed
upon
upon
that
plan,
then
they
are
no
longer
outside
of
that
good
standing.
So
I
think
that
there
there
is
some
baseline
there
to
develop
the
pro
the
process
of
identifying
good
standing.
Additionally,
we
did
decide
to
put
that
artist
on
the
the
permittee,
the
permittee,
to
an
affidavit
saying
and
committing
that
they
are
in
good
standing
with
their
permits
across
the
country.
O
So
I
think
that
you
know
when
you
run
a
company,
you,
you
get
a
notice
when
you're,
in
violation
of
something
right,
whether
in
small
business,
it's
like
a
tax
authority,
violation
or
your.
Maybe
your
your
parking
lot
needs
to
be
cleaned
up
and
it's
an
ordinance
violation.
You
know
those
things
right,
so
I
think
that
companies
can
can
identify
when
they're
not
in
good
standing
with
those
permits,
but
also
identify
when
they've
met
those
regulatory
compliance
needs
to
get
back
into
the
good
standing
and
be
out
of
violations.
F
O
Thank
you,
assemblywoman
titus,
for
the
record,
sarah
peters.
Yes,
that
was
about
really
how
to
figure
out
whether
a
company
and
its
controlling
interests
and
principal
officers
were
in
good
standing
on
their
permits,
and
we
resolved
that
by
including
the
affidavit
in
the
in
the
application
process.
C
O
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Assemblyman
allison,
sarah
peters,
for
the
record.
Can
you
clarify
what
you
mean
by
a
dispute
between
states.
C
L
By
doing
so
and
say,
they're
back
in
nevada
and
they're
gonna
apply.
O
J
O
So,
thank
you
again,
sarah
peters,
for
the
record,
so
the
only
case
would
be
if
the
permit
and
and
potentially
this
needs
some
better
fleshing
out
for
good
standing
and
meeting
those
violation
standards.
But
the
intention
here
is
to
really
capture
those
who
who
are
in
existing
violation
of
an
agreed
permit
within
another
state
or
jurisdiction
in
the
in
the
country
right.
O
So
just
the
application
for
a
permit
and
disagreements
in
the
application's
ballot
validity,
for
whatever
state
it
is
wouldn't
cause,
wouldn't
have
an
impact
on
their
ability
to
get
a
permit
in
the
state
of
nevada.
It
would
only
be
in
those
cases
in
which
they
are
violating
an
existing
permitted
project.
Right,
which
would
is,
is
a
contractual
agreement.
A
permit
is
that
is
that
contractual
agreement
with
the
state
obligating
you
to
do
certain
functions
as
a
part
of
your
project.
A
A
P
L
A
Thank
you
with
that.
We
will
now
go
on
to
assembly
bill
299,
which
makes
various
changes
to
wildlife.
Mr
stenisbeck,
can
you
lead
us
through
the
word
session
document
for
assembly
bill
299.
G
Thank
you,
chair
watts,
for
the
record.
Youngster
inspect
for
the
researchers
at
lcb
has
sent
me
bill
299
with
certain
committee
on
march
31st,
and
the
bill
provides
that
a
soluble
anal
actually
killed
as
a
result
of
a
vehicle
coalition
in
the
state
may
be
salvaged
and
possessed.
If
a
salvage
permit
is
obtained.
G
The
bill
prohibits
the
salvage
in
taking
possession
of
assad
of
alma
from
the
reservation
lands
of
any
indian
tribe
in
the
state.
Lastly,
bill
provides
that
a
person
who
intentionally
hits
and
renders
a
or
helpless
or
kills
a
celtic
animal
shall
be
punished
for
category
if
felony
and
otherwise
violence.
Any
provision
of
this
bill
is
guilty
of
a
misdemeanor.
Now
there
are
two
amendments
to
this
bill.
G
The
first
was
proposed
by
the
woman
wilbur
axelrod
and
during
the
bill
hearing,
it
prohibits
a
person
from
attempting
to
salvage
an
m
outside
of
daylight
hours
without
a
peace
officer
and
sufficient
light
presence
limits,
salvage
to
highways,
with
a
maximum
speed
under
70
miles
per
hour
and
prohibit
salvage
interstate
highways
and,
lastly,
clarifies
that
a
24-hour
rule
for
obtaining
a
salvage
permit
is
only
reused
if
the
animal
is
located
in
a
rural
area
where
access
to
endow
off
to
our
wildlife
officials
is
not
immediately
available.
G
The
second
proposed
amendment
was
proposed
by
the
department
of
wildlife
it
was
submitted
after
the
hearing
it
provides
that
a
salvage
permit
may
only
be
issued
by
a
law
enforcement
officer
if
the
animal
was
killed
or
injured
due
to
an
ammo
available
collision
prohibits
the
issuance
of
a
salvage
permit
for
any
animal
that
has
a
tracking
collar.
G
Has
a
tag
indicating
that
animals
should
not
be
consumed
due
to
chemical
immobilization
or
has
obvious
signs
of
disease,
provides
that
a
salvage
permit
needs
to
stay
with
the
carcass
and
a
complete
copy
of
the
permit
for
that
animal
has
to
be
submitted
to
endow
within
five
businesses.
After
taking
the
position
of
the
carcass
prohibits
salvaging
out
from
any
residential
restricted
area,
any
wildlife
management
areas,
public
waste
is
possible
facility.
G
Air
is
deemed
by
endow
to
contain
disease
or
contaminate
animals
and
prior
property,
while
the
permission
of
the
owner
and
lastly
requires
the
salvage
permit
to
contain
information
regarding
the
species
and
sex
of
the
animal,
as
well
as
by
what
method
it
was
killed.
Additionally
requires
information
of
any
individual
who
will
be
transported
or
in
possession
of
any
portion
of
parts
of
the
established
animal
and
again
both
proposed
amendments,
language
of
them
and
full
are
attached
to
this
work
session
document.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
F
Thank
you,
assembly,
woman,
billberry
oxlerod
was
going
to
be
tied
up
for
any
question
so
happy
to
take
any
that
members
might
have,
but
also
want
to
acknowledge
the
a
great
conversation
that
we
had
with
the
nevada
department
of
wildlife
to
go
over
their
concerns
and
we
appreciated
their
amendment.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
A
M
C
C
N
A
Yes,
thank
you,
members.
That
motion
carries.
I
will
assign
the
floor
statement
to
a
number
one
bilbray
axelrod
with
assemblywoman
titus
as
a
backup.
Does
that
work
assemblywoman,
that's
the
way
it
should
be.
Thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you
very
much
and
we
will
not
be
taking
action
on
assembly
bill
240
at
this
time.
M
Thank
you,
chair
assembly,
bill
number
99,
revises
provisions
governing
the
production
and
sale
of
eggs
and
egg
products,
and
there
is
an
amendment
on
nellis.
So
please
go
ahead
whenever
you're
ready
chair.
A
Thank
you
very
much
vice
chair
cohen
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record.
I
am
howard
watts
representing
assembly
district
15
in
clark
county.
I'm
pleased
to
present
assembly
bill
399
for
your
consideration
today.
The
bills
that
eggs
produced
or
sold
in
the
state
of
nevada
meet
certain
standards
of
humane
treatment
for
laying
hens,
often
referred
to
as
cage
free.
A
Both
egg
producers
and
animal
welfare
advocates
agree
that
this
is
the
right
thing
to
do.
I
do
want
to
note
that
there
is
an
amendment
to
the
bill.
We've
been
working
on
it
up
to
very
close
before
the
meeting
started
and
should
be
available
on
nellis
with
me
to
assist
in
the
presentation
of
the
bill.
Today
are
several
folks
with
this
maine
society
of
the
united
states,
as
well
as
some
egg
producers.
So
I'd
just
like
to
give
some
brief
background.
I
myself
tend
to
flock
of
six
hens
in
my
backyard.
A
I
haven't
seen
them
in
a
little
bit
of
time,
but
that
experience
has
shown
me
how
important
how
important
it
is
for
for
chickens
to
have
good
conditions
for
their
well-being.
It's
it's
critical
for
their
physical
and
mental
health
that
they
have
space
to
move,
have
appropriate
nesting
areas,
scratching
areas,
the
opportunity
to
desk
bathe
and
access
to
purchase.
A
When
you
go
to
the
grocery
store.
Nowadays,
you
probably
find
a
wide
variety
of
eggs
that
have
different
labels
like
free
range
or
cage
free
on
them.
Those
designations
are
regulated
by
the
u.s
department
of
agriculture
and
in
those
federal
guidelines,
eggs
that
are
labeled
that
way
have
to
be
laid
by
hands
that
are
held
in
spaces
where
they
can
roam
free
and
have
access
to
water,
food
nesting
and
perches.
A
That's
how
domestic
chickens
have
been
managed
for
hundreds,
maybe
even
thousands
of
years,
but
unfortunately,
over
recent
decades,
as
we
went
in
the
direction
of
industrialization,
we
saw
the
emergence
of
a
model
that,
in
the
the
name
of
efficiency,
resulted
in
some
pretty
horrific
conditions
with
hens
in
battery
cages
for
their
entire
lives.
They
are
confined
to
a
space
with
a
floor
that
is
smaller
than
a
letter-sized
paper
for
anyone
who's
seen
a
chicken
imagining
one
confined
to
a
space
that
small
is,
is
pretty
difficult.
A
More
and
more
large
food
buyers
such
as
restaurants
and
grocery
store
chains
have
pledged
to
use
exclusively
cage-free
eggs
and
that's
in
part,
because
customers
learning
about
this
have
demanded
that
their
products
be
raised
in
a
more
humane
fashion.
State
legislator,
legislatures
around
the
country,
have
also
taken
up
this
issue.
At
least
seven
states
have
passed
legislation
requiring
only
cage-free
eggs
to
be
produced
and
sold
in
their
states.
Those
include
colorado,
massachusetts,
michigan,
oregon,
rhode,
island,
utah
and
washington.
A
A
If
you
look
at
that,
rundown
that
what
we're
seeing
is,
particularly
in
the
west,
a
strong
move
in
this
direction-
and
I
I
think
it's
important-
that
we
not
have
nevada
as
an
island
without
some
of
these
same
standards
in
place,
we
did
have
in
2020
69
producer
certificate
holders
in
the
state
that
produced
54,
000,
plus
dozens
of
eggs
that
were
intended
for
sale,
and
I
believe
that
most
of
these
egg
producers
currently
use
cage
free
housing
systems
that
would
meet
these
guidelines
and
already
are
in
compliance
with
the
provisions
of
this
bill.
A
To
give
a
really
simple
overview.
This
bill
requires
that
eggs
sold
offered
for
sale
are
transported
for
the
purpose
of
selling
within
nevada,
be
produced
in
a
cage-free
housing
system.
It
does
this
by
having
a
farm
owner
or
operator,
go
through
a
cage-free
certification
from
the
state
department
of
agriculture
as
part
of
the
existing
inspection
certification
process.
A
We
do
have
an
amendment.
It
mostly
offers
some
technical
fixes
to
streamline
enforcement
and
inspection
and
give
nda
some
more
flexibility,
among
other
things.
The
amendment
also
removes
sections
that
trigger
the
two-thirds
requirement
on
the
bill,
as
these
can
be
rolled
into
the
existing
processes
for
egg
producers
and
does
not
require
any
additional
fees.
Q
Excuse
me,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
madam
vice
chair
members
of
the
committee
warren
hardy
today
representing
the
humane
society
of
the
united
states.
Thank
you
for
that
very
thorough
and
accurate
introduction.
Q
I
beg
your
pardon,
I
don't
know
what
happened.
This
is
probably
better
not
to
look
at
me
anyway.
This
is
one
of
those
happy
occasions
when
the
industry,
the
egg
producers,
the
marketplace,
has
joined
forces
with
hsus
on
an
initiative
and
I'll,
let
I'll
let
my
colleagues
from
the
industry
speak
for
their
motivation
and
their
reasons
going
forward.
But,
but
again,
this
is.
Q
This
is
a
dynamic,
that's
taking
place
all
over
the
country,
particularly
in
the
western
united
states,
and
what
my
colleague,
what
our
colleagues
in
the
in
the
industry
want
is
some
certainty
with
the
requirements
for
providing
these
eggs.
I
want
to
thank
the
chair
for
his
interest
in
this
issue.
Q
And
for
his
willingness
to
work
with
us,
I
want
to
be
clear.
This
is
a
cage
free
requirement,
not
a
free
range
requirement.
I
would
direct
your
attention
to
nellis
where
there's
a
picture
of
the
sort
of
the
difference
of
what
we're
talking
about.
As
the
chair
indicated.
Imagine
in
a
caged
environment
if
you
will
a
hand
who
which
has
to
live
in
a
enclosure,
the
size
of
a
piece
of
paper.
Q
So
with
that,
mr
chair,
I
also
want
to.
I
also
really
want
to
thank
your
committee
council
for
the
time
that
he's
taken
to
work
work
with
us
through
these
issues,
and
I
want
to
particularly
call
out
the
efforts
of
director
ott
and
the
department
of
agriculture
for
their
efforts
in
helping
us
get
to
this
place
on
this
bill.
As
you
indicated,
it
should
not
require
a
two-thirds
maturity.
Q
We've
made
several
changes
in
the
amendment
that
address
that
issue
and
allow
the
department
of
agriculture
to
be
to
be
able
to
enforce
this
and
accommodate
this
in
their
regular
course
of
business.
So
that's
that's
much
of
where
that
came
from.
I
would
also
indicate
that,
early
afternoon
today,
I
had
conversations
with
mr
brown
walker
at
the
retail
association
who's
leading
a
coalition,
as
I
understand
it,
made
up
of
the
chambers,
nfib
and
others
who
have
some
I'm
not
even
going
to
call
them
concerns.
Q
I
have
some
questions
about
the
effective
date
of
this
legislation
and
I
have
committed
to
work
with
them.
We,
we
don't
have
any
issue
with
the
with
what
they've
brought
up
in
terms
of
adjusting
that
date,
so
we
will
be
continuing
to
work
with
them
and
hopefully
before
the
amendments
draft
to
be
able
to
get
some
language
to
the
committee
that
accommodates
their
concern,
and
I
appreciate
them
working
with
us
this
afternoon.
I
know
that's
that's
kind
of
late,
mr
chairman,
but
that
seems
to
be
the
pace
of
the
session
and
vice
chair.
Q
So
if
I
may
mount
a
vice
chair,
if
I
could
just
sort
of
walk
through
at
a
30,
000
foot
view
level
the
sections
of
the
bill
and
then
I'll
turn
it
over
to
mr
van
gork
and
then
and
then
from
there
to
mr
dixon
and
then
to
mr
wilkins,
and
then
we
can
open
it
up
and
answer
any
questions
a
committee
might
have,
if
that's
acceptable,
so
section
one
contains
a
legislative
declaration,
and
I
should
indicate
part
of
the
reason
for
the
amendment
is
this.
This
has
been
adopted.
Q
Some
version
of
this
has
been
adopted
by
several
states,
even
those
near
us,
and
so
the
language
has
to
be
pretty
pretty
right,
pretty
pretty
accurate
in
order
to
avoid
any
commerce
clause
challenges.
Q
Q
A
legislative
declaration
that's
contained
in
section
one
section:
two
through
15,
contains
the
definitions
for
this
purpose,
because
this
is
a
new
section
of
statute
and
then
section
16
is
kind
of
where
the
rubber
meets
the
road,
and
I
would
just
back
up
again
and
and
specify
that
these
definitions
are
crafted
in
a
very
special
way
to
make
sure
we
meet
all
the
federal
requirements
and
also
very
clearly
reflect
the
industry
standards
that
are
accepted
so
section
16
deals
with
the
production
requirement.
Q
There's
two
two
portions
of
the
bill:
one
deals
with
the
production
of
of
cage-free
eggs.
The
other
section
deals
with
the
cell
of
cage-free
eggs,
so
section
16
is
the
production
portion
and
it
it
it.
It
requires
that
in
order
to
produce
eggs,
there
has
to
be
one
square
foot
of
space
available
for
each
hand.
If
it
is
a
multi-layered
facility,
these
aviaries
many
of
them
have
multiple
layers
so
that
the
hands
can
fly
up
to
their
to
their
nest
that
they
can
move
around
to
different
levels.
Q
In
scenarios
where
that
is
is
is
the
case.
The
legislation
requires
one
foot
of
space
per
hand
in
in.
In
instances
where
there
are
there
is
a
single
level,
the
requirement
is
one
and
a
half
foot.
Again,
I
would
refer
you
to
the
the
picture
that
was
provided
on
nellis,
so
you
can
kind
of
get
a
vision,
but
imagine
if
you
will
just
a
warehouse,
that's
full
of
these
hands
that
they
can
move
around.
They
can
interact,
but
so
they're,
not
caged.
I
mean
this.
This
is
really
not.
Q
This
is
really
not
a
free
range
issue,
because
that's
very,
very
different
section,
16
subsection
2
provides
certain
exemptions
from
the
requirements
of
this
bill
that
we've
found
through
through
the
years
or
through
the
the
progress
of
this
legislation
and
other
states
are
necessary,
such
as
medical
research,
transportation
to
and
from
fairs
certain
applications
for
4-h
and
husbandry
in
certain
applications.
So
those
are
that
contains
the
exemptions
that
I
think
is
important.
Q
They
didn't
have
to
do
anything
beyond
what
they're
doing
now
to
be
able
to
achieve
it.
And
again
I
want
to
thank
director,
ott
and
her
team
for
being
so
great
to
work
with
on
this
and
then
section
20
mana
vice
chair
addresses
the
actual
cell
of
the
eggs
and
and
with
that,
if
I
could
turn
it
over
to
jim
van
garkum
to
give
some
background
on
why
the
industry
believes
this
is
an
important
piece
of
legislation.
I'd
appreciate
that
opportunity.
Q
D
Consumers,
businesses,
animal
advocacy
groups
and
egg
farmers
all
understand
the
importance
of
treating
animals
well
as
egg
farmers.
We
understand
best
that
the
health
and
well-being
of
our
friends
really
is
what
keeps
us
in
business
and
allows
us
to
provide
a
healthy,
high
quality
protein
packed
food
to
our
customers
in
the
entire
nation
and,
as
the
chairman
said,
within,
and
around
nevada,
consumers
and
businesses
are
choosing
to
purchase
eggs
from
hands
kept
in
cage-free
environments.
D
D
in
nevada,
grocers
and
businesses
such
as
walmart
smiths,
albertsons,
starbucks,
mcdonald's.
The
long
list
mgm
resorts,
hilton
hotels,
caesars
entertainment
goes
on
and
on
have
committed
to
use
only
cage-free
eggs
as
the
minimum
standard.
Some
now
some
soon,
some
at
slightly
different
dates,
but
it's
all
going
to
happen
based
on
consumer
demand
and
what
our
customers
are
telling
us.
So
this
trend
towards
cage-free
eggs
is
driven
in
large
part
by
the
customer,
but
sometimes
also
helped
pushed
along
by
animal
advocacy
groups.
D
So
ab399
is
the
result
of
really
constructive
dialogue
and
compromise
between
egg
farmers
and
the
country's
largest
largest
animal
advocacy
group,
the
humane
society
of
the
united
states.
So
by
being
part
of
this
conversation,
egg
farmers
have
the
opportunity
to
help
create
policy
where
our
science-based
production
standards
and
our
animal
husbandry
principles
align
with
this
growing
demand
for
cage-free
eggs.
D
D
It
offers
an
equal
application
of
the
law
for
any
commercial
egg
producer
business
operating
in
the
state,
and
it
falls
under
the
current
procedures
and
practices
of
the
nevada
department
of
agriculture
culture.
What
it
does
not
do,
because
it
is
limited
to
the
commercial
egg
laying
industry
it
does
not
affect
other
animal
species.
D
There's
no
encroachment
on
interstate
commerce
because
of
this
equal
application,
and
it
does
not
remove
consumer
choice.
There
will
still
be
cage-free
and
organic
and
free-range
and
pasture-raised,
and
nutritionally
enhanced
and
brown
eggs
and
white
eggs.
Those
will
all
still
be
offered,
so
the
egg
industry
is
shifting
towards
cage-free
operations
to
meet
the
demands
of
nevadans
other
western
states,
our
customers
and
much
of
the
nation.
D
This
legislation
brings
nevada
into
alignment
with
where
the
marketplace
is
going.
It
also
aligns
nevada
with
states
throughout
the
region
that
already
have
nearly
identical
standards
in
place
and
those
include
again,
california,
oregon
washington,
colorado,
utah,
there's
other
south
west
states
today
that
are
looking
at
this
issue
and
with
these
nearby
states
enacting
similar
requirements,
it's
important
that
we
have
consistency
on
a
regional
basis,
rather
than
be
forced
to
comply
with
multiple
standards
across
state
lines.
D
Also,
it's
really
important.
You
know
the
cage-free
requirements
being
proposed
in
this
bill
are
standards
that
the
egg
industry
has
endorsed
his
best
practices
to
produce
cage-free
eggs.
These
methods
are
the
best
of
science
and
animal
care
where
we
can
meet
the
shared
goals
of
giving
hens
the
ability
to
exhibit
natural
behaviors
and
also
meet
the
economic
viability
of
large-scale
egg
production.
D
So
we
believe
passage
of
ab-399
in
nevada
will
help
provide
clarity
and
certainty
for
these
nearby
farms
that
supply
eggs
to
nevada.
It
addresses
the
valid
concern
for
the
humane
treatment
of
animals
and
it's
responsive
to
the
marketplace
and
this
desire
for
cage-free
eggs,
so
committee
members,
the
egg
farmers
of
the
our
agricultural
cooperative,
believe
that
this
is
good
for
egg
farmers.
Animal
agriculture
and
nevadans
and
support
ab399,
and
we
thank
you
for
your
consideration.
M
R
Thank
you
miss
mr
chair,
madam
vice
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record.
I
am
jeff
dixon,
I'm
the
nevada
state
director
for
the
humane
society
of
the
united
states,
and
I
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
in
support
of
ab3099
in
a
political
climate
where
it
sometimes
seems
impossible
for
stakeholders
to
come
together
in
thoughtful,
constructive
dialogue.
This
bill
is
a
welcome
reprieve.
R
This
legislation
is
a
testament
to
stakeholders
listening,
providing
insights
and
finding
common
ground
for
the
betterment
of
farmers
and
animals
alike.
In
particular,
we
at
hsus
would
like
to
thank
jerry,
welcome
jerry
wilkins,
jim
van
gorkum
and
the
other
egg
suppliers
who
you
will
hear
from
soon
for
being
such
terrific
partners.
In
this
effort,
millions
of
egg-laying
chickens
in
the
u.s
are
confined
in
cages
that
the
industry
terms
battery
cages
in
those
cages.
R
Av
399
will
get
egg
laying
chickens
out
of
barren
wire
cages
and
into
cage-free
systems
improving
their
lives
by
providing
freedom
of
movement.
It
requires
key
enrichments
for
the
birds,
including
perches
dust
bathing
and
nesting
in
scratching
areas
and
nest
boxes
to
egg
suppliers.
Credit
due
to
public
concern
for
welfare
food
companies,
demand
for
cage-free
products
and
legislative
momentum
around
the
us,
which
has
been
mentioned
by
previous
presenters.
R
They
believe
that
the
future
of
the
egg
industry
is
cage-free
and
we
agree.
Egg
producers
say
that
regulatory
certainty
with
cage-free
standards.
They
already
know
how
to
follow,
provide
security
for
their
business
and
we
agree
egg
producers
say
they
can't
happen
overnight
and
a
reasonable
time
frame
is
needed
to
make
the
switch
to
cage-free,
and
we
agree.
R
In
short,
this
bill
ushers
in
a
thriving
cage-free
future
for
farmers
using
a
standard
crafted
by
the
egg
industry
according
to
a
timeline
that
is
economically
viable.
It
closely
mirrors
laws
that
were
also
supported
by
egg
suppliers
in
utah,
oregon,
washington,
massachusetts,
colorado,
california
and
michigan.
Several
other
states
have
expired,
endorsed
bills
pending
this
year.
R
More
than
200
of
the
world's
top
grocery
fast
food
and
restaurant
companies
are
switching
to
100
cage-free
eggs
among
the
grow,
hallmark,
albertsons,
kroger's,
raley's,
safeway,
dollar
tree
and
dollar
general
among
the
restaurant
chains
are
denny's,
mcdonald's,
arby's
and
taco
bell.
R
What
these
brands
may
have
in
common,
as
you
may
have
noticed,
is
that
they
are
preferred
by
cost
conscious
consumers
and
finally,
the
cage
freeze
standard
is
the
in
this
bill
also
promotes
food
safety
because
it
reduces
the
risk
for
zoonotic
disease
transmission
by
providing
requirements
of
a
minimum
stocking
density,
as
well
as
nest
boxes
for
hens
to
lay
their
chicken
to
lay
their
eggs,
so
their
eggs
aren't
laid
on
the
ground
which
increases
safety
risks.
So
with
that,
thank
you
for
considering
this
farmer
and
animal
friendly
legislation,
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions.
M
Thank
you
for
that.
So,
mr
dixon,
I
know
you
said
you're
ready
for
questions.
Are
there
any?
Is
there
anything
else
in
the
presentation.
C
A
S
Hey
good
afternoon
vice
chair
cohen
and
committee
members,
my
name
is
jerry
wilkins
and
I'm
the
sales
and
marketing
director
for
morning
fresh
farms,
colorado,
family,
owned
commercial
egg
farm.
We
produce
farm,
fresh
eggs
that
are
distributed
throughout
the
western
united
states,
and
this
includes
nevada.
I
would
like
to
thank
chairman
watts
for
sponsoring
ab399.
S
His
leadership
in
helping
us
find
common
ground
is
sincerely
appreciated.
Committee.
You
may
ask
why
so-called
out-of-state
interests
are
supporting
this
bill.
To
be
clear,
there
are
no
commercial
egg
producers
in
the
state,
so
nevada
must
excuse
me.
Nevada
businesses
must
source
eggs
from
many
regional
farms,
such
as
our
farm
morning,
fresh
farms.
S
In
many
ways
we
are
your
local
egg
supplier
and
have
a
vested
interest
in
making
sure
nevadans
can
continue
to
enjoy
farm
fresh
eggs
from
the
area
that
are
humane,
safe
and
affordable
over
200
grocers,
as
folks
before
me
had
mentioned
grocers
and
food
companies,
many
of
which
are
doing
business
in
nevada
today,
such
as
target
sam's
club
dollar,
tree
subway
and
more,
are
requiring
cage-free
eggs
from
egg
suppliers
either
now
or
over
the
next
few
years.
S
Moreover,
nevada
consumers
are
demanding
cage-free
just
five
years
ago.
Cage-Free
production
was
only
six
percent
today,
cage-free
is
nearly
30
percent
of
all
eggs
produced
in
the
u.s
and
that
that
number
is
growing
fast.
Although
our
family
farm
believes
in
free
markets,
there
are
multiple
reasons
why
ab-399
is
necessary,
as
cage-free
becomes
the
norm.
Here
are
a
couple
of
them
to
create
a
more
stable
egg
supply.
This
legislation
creates
one
statewide
standard.
S
S
This
is
not
the
more
extreme
standards
such
as
a
free
range
or
a
pasture
raised
which
are
very
expensive
to
produce
and
can
expose
the
birds
to
disease
and
predators.
The
state-of-the-art
cage-free
housing
of
today
is
not
the
setup
that
great
grandpa
had
commercially
produced.
Cage-Free
eggs
are
safe,
eggs
will
not
be
laid
on
the
ground,
but
in
private
nest
boxes
and
conveyed
to
a
processing
area
to
be
cleaned,
sanitized
and
packaged
through
advancements
in
lighting
technology.
Our
cage
freehands
are
not
skittish
or
aggressive,
but
content
and
docile
through
quality
ventilation
systems.
S
S
Ultimately,
consumers
will
still
have
a
choice
in
the
eggs
they
buy
and
serve
their
families
with
continued
access
to
a
variety
of
egg
types,
sizes,
colors
and
packs.
In
conclusion,
this
bill
offers
a
balance
between
prudent,
science-based
animal
husbandry
standards
and
the
cost-effective
commercial
production
and
sell
of
fresh
eggs
in
nevada.
S
M
Thank
you
very
much,
so
I
think
that's
it
for
a
presentation,
that's
correct!
Are
you
ready
to
go
on
to
we're
ready
to
go
for
questions.
M
Great
okay,
so
I
have
a
question
to
start
with,
so
the
section
one
refers
to
the
legislature's
authority
to
protect
health
and
welfare
of
consumers
and
promote
food
safety.
So
can
can
you
please
explain
that
to
me
like
why?
Why
is
this
better
for
people
and
better
as
far
as
food
safety.
Q
Matter
vice
chair,
if
I
could
refer
that
to
jerry
wilkins.
A
Sure
I
will
this
is
howard
watts
for
the
record.
Thank
you
and-
and
I
appreciate
mr
harvey's
assistance
in
helping
direct
questions
to
some
of
our
expert
panel
as
well,
yeah
and-
and
I
think
I'll
leave
it
to
the
experts
to
provide
the
details,
but
as
someone
who's
tended
chickens
and
and
worked
hands-on
with
animals
a
little
bit,
I
will
say
a
couple
of
big
picture
things:
one.
You
never
want
to
eat
something
from
an
animal
that
isn't
healthy.
A
That's
just
something
that
for
folks
that
haven't
worked
hands-on
with
animals,
that's
a
key
principle
and
when
chickens
are
confined
in
these
situations,
it
is
unhealthy,
and
so
then,
as
conditions
develop,
they
have
to
be
treated.
You
know
sometimes
within
other
medications,
and
that
has
impacts
as
well
so
I'll.
Let
the
experts
speak
to
the
the
details
about
the
actual
quality
of
the
product,
but
it
certainly
leads
to
healthier
livestock,
which
leads
to
a
healthier
product
and
I
believe,
a
healthier
product
means
healthier.
People.
S
I
I
apologize.
This
is
jerry
wilkins,
madam
vice
chair,
if
I
may,
chairman
watts,
really
hit
the
the
nail
on
the
head
there
with
this
this
set
of
standards.
What
ensures
the
food
safety
is.
The
fact
that
it
ensures
stocking
density
is
in
place
that
we're
not.
I
don't
want
to
use
the
term
cramming
chickens
in
cage-free
barns,
k-tree
facilities
with
no
regard
to
the
the
space
per
bird.
S
So,
if
you
cram
birds
into
tight
spaces,
it
affects
their
stress
levels
which
can
affect
their
their
outflow
and
it
can.
It
can
promote
unsafe
standards
for
the
eggs
they
produce,
so
stocking
density,
as
well
as
the
fact
that
this
these
standards
also
require
nest
boxes.
The
birds
will
actually
privately
lay
their
eggs
in
these
nest
boxes
and
those
eggs
will
actually
be
conveyed
out
to
the
end
of
the
barn
and
then
convey
down
to
the
processing
area.
S
So
at
no
time
is
that
egg
actually
come
in
contact
with
feces
or
other
foreign
debris
that
can
cause
cause
foodborne
illness,
those
type
of
things.
So
the
standards
set
forth
in
this
because
they
are
industry
standards.
They
truly
do
put
food
safety.
First,
as
well
as
the
bird
health
in
to
ensure
that
we
protect
the
birds
as
well
as
the
humans
consuming
those
eggs
as
well.
So
thank
you.
M
Thank
you,
mr
wilkins.
Was
there
anyone
else
who
wanted
to
add
anything
to
that
answer?
Yeah,
okay,
also,
the
I
I
have
another
question:
do
so
we've
as
someone
who
isn't
involved
in
in
this
field
at
all.
I
I
think
I
I
I've
heard
about
the
the
birds
having
like
beaks
removed,
and
things
like
that
is.
Is
that
going
to
be
an
issue
here
or
is
that
not
addressed
at
all.
S
S
Beak
trimming
is
a
standard
today
and
it
will
be
a
standard
in
the
in
the
future,
even
under
the
cage-free
standards
that
we've
set
forth.
Now,
with
that
said,
the
industry
continues
to
look
for
other
ways
of
finding
ways
of
not
having
to
beat
trim,
but
at
this
point
to
reduce
the
the
potential
for
pecking
aggressive
behaviors,
those
type
of
things.
S
The
beak
trimming
actually
protects
the
birds
versus
non-beak
trimming
and
as
long
as
you
are
following
the
industry
standards
which
are
set
forth
by
the
united
egg
producers
that
actually
mandate
or
regulate
how
early
in
a
hen's
life
or
the
poet,
if
you
will
heard
that's
between
one
and
twenty
weeks
of
age
as
a
brooder
or
a
poet,
they
are
required
to
be
trim
within
the
first
few
days
of
that
hens,
life,
and
so
because
of
that,
the
the
beak
is
more
pliable
and
the
pain
that
the
bird
endures
is
actually
much
less
similar
to
trimming
the
the
nails
of
a
dog
or
a
cat
at
that
age.
S
And
so
shelby
trimming
is
essential
today
and
it
will
remain
until
the
industry
finds
another
avenue
for
for
reducing
feather
packing.
In
that
case,.
M
Thank
you
and
then,
and
I
I
should
have
also
been
more
clear
about
besides
the
beak,
is
there
anything
else
that's
trimmed
or
removed.
M
Okay,
thank
you.
I
have
a
question
from
assemblyman
wheeler.
N
Hey,
thank
you,
madam
vice
chair.
I
appreciate
it
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
you
know,
even
though
my
friend
mr
hardy
was
a
bit
plucky.
N
It
was
overall
an
excellent
presentation,
but
I
do
have
a
question
now
that
we've
gotten
that
out
of
the
way-
and
I
think
mr
wilkins
could
probably
answer
this
for
me.
I
remember
seeing
an
egg
producing
plant
years
ago
in
arkansas
now
and
they
were
very
proud
of
the
automation
you
know,
as
the
eggs
would
roll
down
a
conveyor
belt.
N
Basically,
the
food
was
all
done,
automated
et
cetera,
very
labor
in
intensive
yeah,
but
these
were
caged
animals
back
then,
and
so
I'm
wondering
what
will
the
pricing
difference
be
if
we,
if
nevada,
for
instance,
were
to
go
completely
to
cage
free?
Is
that
a
raise
in
price,
or
would
it
be
comparatively
the
same.
S
Thank
you,
madam
vice
chair,
assemblyman
wheeler,
excellent
question.
That
is
a
question
that
we
should
all
ask.
What
is
the
cost
going
to
look
like
when,
when
this
bill
passes?
Let's
just
say
20
years
ago,
this
would
not
be
have
been
economically
feasible.
The
industry
was
not
in
a
position
to
be
able
to
produce
eggs
in
a
cage-free
environment
with
the
fish,
with
efficiencies
and
economic
and
economies
of
scale.
S
Having
a
bird
on
in
a
cage-free
environment
is
actually
affordable.
It's
cost-effective,
you
would
probably
anticipate
we
anticipate
just
based
on
some
production
differences
about
a
few
cents
per
egg.
Difference
from
what
today's
caged
cage
to
egg
is
now
a
lot
of
folks
will
say.
Well,
I
was
just
at
the
store
today
and
I
found
a
specialty
egg
or
a
cage-free
egg
that
was
429
a
dozen.
How
are
you
going
to
tell
me
that
eggs
are
not
going
to
be
that
much
more
expensive
than
today's
caged
eggs
when
this
bill
passes
today?
S
That
has
some
pretty
aggressive
markups?
If
you
will,
the
retailer
puts
those
into
their
added
value
category
within
the
egg
case,
what
we
call
designer
eggs
or
specialty
eggs
as
cage-free
becomes
the
norm,
it
becomes
the
commodity
when
an
egg
or
any
product
becomes
commoditized.
What
do
we
do?
It
becomes
the
value
the
value
product
or
the
affordable
product.
That's
on
the
shelf.
S
Retailers
will
use
it
as
what
we
call
the
loss
leader
to
drive
traffic
into
the
stores
and
what
we'll
see
is
just
a
nominal
difference
in
the
cost
of
eggs
versus
what
they
are
today.
In
fact,
however,
with
understanding
that
over
200
of
these
food
companies,
including
most
of
the
retailers
we
know
today
in
the
greater
nevada
area,
are
going
to
cage-free,
these
standards
will
actually
keep
those
those
cage-free
eggs
in
affordable
instead
of
a
multiple
different
standards.
D
Adam
chair,
this
is
jim
van
gorkum.
With
your
permission
would
I'd
like
to
add
on
a
little
additional
information
for
assemblyman
wheeler.
D
D
D
D
Eggs,
though,
are
a
very
competitive
category,
both
at
the
wholesale
level
and
at
retail.
Earlier
this
afternoon,
as
I
do
every
wednesday
I
received
a
recap
of
all
of
the
retailer
ads
throughout
the
western
u.s
and
what
eggs
were
in
them,
and
let
me
just
briefly
share
this
with
you,
because
I
think
you'll
find
it
interesting.
If
you
live
in
southern
nevada,
you
could
go
in
today
to
albertsons
vaughn
smith,
spartan,
final
lavanita
or
marianas,
and
you'd
find
eggs
on
sale
in
every
one
of
those
stores.
D
If
you
lived
in
reno
carton
city,
you
could
go
into
rayleigh,
safeway,
save
merge
or
smiths
and
again
you'd
find
eggs
on
sale
as
cage-free
eggs
become
the
commodity,
the
regular
everyday
egg.
There's
going
to
be
tremendous
pressure
at
the
wholesale
level
and
at
the
retail
level
to
be
competitive
to
offer
the
best
possible
price.
D
Another
quick
analogy
well
and
before
that
even
a
question
I
mentioned
several
retailers.
None
of
those
people
want
their
shoppers
harmed.
They
don't
want
their
shoppers
to
pay
more
for
eggs.
But
my
last
point
matt-
and
I
share
with
with
your
permission
california-
has
been
going
through
this
process.
This
change
process.
For
years
it
started
in
2015
with
a
requirement
that
the
hens
have
more
space
in
2020,
more
space
was
required
and
in
2022
it'll
be
cage
free.
The
majority
of
these
everyday
regular
eggs
sold
in
california
today
are
already
cage-free.
D
So
while
it
certainly
costs
a
significant
amount
of
investment
to
have
cage
free
production,
the
improvements
and
advances
that
we're
making
in
technology
and
in
labor
processes
and
practices
and
just
the
competitive
nature
of
this
business
will
continue
to
provide
a
great
value
to
nevada
residents.
And
thank
you
both.
M
Thank
you
and,
and
and
I
appreciate
the
information
I
am
going
to
ask
the
speakers
to
try
to
be
brief,
as
we
are
coming
up
against
a
deadline
in
the
next
couple
of
days,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
and
get
through
everything
I
do
have
a
question
from
assemblywoman
titus.
Thank
you
manager,.
F
I
have
a
question
just
actually
related
to
the
bill
itself,
so
looking
at
the
bill
and
I'm
looking
at
section,
eight,
the
this
is
this
statement
that
says
this
pertains
to
farm
owner
or
operator,
which
means
a
person
who
owns
a
farm
or
controls
operations
of
farm.
There's,
no
statement
anywhere
that
I
can
see
on
the
size
of
what
the
farm
would
affect.
I
reached
out
to
some
of
my
local
and
I
live
in
rural
nevada
and
buy
local
eggs
that
are
produced
by
a
small
little
farm
that
has
200
hens.
F
These
hens
are
loved
on
and
they
are
let
out
during
the
day
in
a
large
pen,
if
there's
predators
around,
because
they've
had
just
recently
had
to
kill
a
mountain
lion
that
looks
literally
in
their
barn.
So
when
it's
safe,
they
let
them
out
and
then
otherwise
at
night
they
put
them
in
two
separate
pens
where
they
have
little
nesting
boxes.
F
Q
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and,
and
thank
you
so
many
women
for
that
answer.
So
the
definition
of
a
business
owner
operators
contained
in
section
two.
We
looked
at
that
issue
and
actually
had
legislators
prior
to
session,
as
we
were
talking
about
this
guy
asked
about
that
and
by
definition
those
are
really
arrange
free-range
chickens.
F
So
what
if
I
thank
you
assemblyman
hardy
or
mr
hardy?
Well,
how
at
what
point,
however,
does
it
get
to
be
these
they
sell,
but
they
sell
everything.
You
know
they
they're
the
ones
that
we
go
to
for
our
pumpkins
they're,
the
ones
we
go
to
for
our
squash.
They
do
all
of
it
and
they
barely
make
it,
and
so
you
know
will
they
have
to
get
a
certificate?
And
that
was
my
question
back
to
number
one
section
back
to
the
bill
itself:
section
14:
they
have
to
get
the
certificate
and
be
surveyed
and
respected.
F
Will
they
have
to
go
through
that
and
an
inspection
every
year
because
they
do
sell
eggs.
A
Well,
I'll
get
that
really
briefly.
Thank
you
for
the
question
assembly,
lauren
titus,
howard
watts,
for
the
record
again,
this
isn't
actually
changing
the
requirements
of
who
has
to
get
certified
and
inspected
for
eggs.
So
if
you
have
a
producer
that
already
falls
within
that
and
is,
is
subject
to
those
provisions
and
and
goes
through
those
processes
with
the
department
of
agriculture,
we're
just
layering
on
top
of
that
to
make
sure
that
they're
using
a
cage-free
system,
this
is
not
going
to
put
additional
requirements
on
anybody
else.
A
So
if,
for
whatever
reason
they
are
they're,
not
you
know,
as
somebody
who
has
six
chickens
in
my
backyard,
I
am
not
going
to
be
subject
to
those
provisions,
even
though
I
do
have
a
setup
that
would
qualify
as
cage
free
and
most
of
those
small
producers
would
as
well
so
just
to
be
absolutely
clear
for
the
record.
This
isn't
going
to
expand
the
the
group
of
produce
the
size
or
qualifications
for
producers.
F
That's
my
next
question.
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
chair
watts.
The
next
question
is,
is
a:
how
does
the
department
of
agriculture
have
the
capacity
to
go
out
and
inspect
these
or
and
what
I'm
hearing
from
one
of
your
presenters
there's
no
such
entity
already
in
our
state
and
most
of
these
are
already
imported.
A
Thank
you
for
the
question
of
some
of
them
in
titus,
howard,
watts,
the
record
again.
We
have
some
producers
here
in
the
state
and
they
that
are
already
subject
to
oversight
by
the
state
department
of
agriculture,
and
so
this
is
just
using.
This
is
just
integrating
this
into
that
procedure,
and
again
most
of
those
producers
already
are
at
this
standard.
So
this
is
just
codifying
it
making
sure
it's
that
that
best
practice
is
established
for
everyone
and
there's
a
level
playing
field
additionally.
A
So
while
so,
the
department
already
has
staffing
structure
and
has
indicated
that
integrating
this
in
would
not
create
an
additional
burden
on
the
agency
and
in
addition,
as
if
needed,
within
existing
language,
the
department
could
use
private
inspection
assistance
if
they
ever
needed
to,
and
that's
that's
already
laid
out,
not
mr
hardy,
is
there
anything
else,
he'd
like
to
add.
Q
Well,
that
was
well
done,
mr
chair.
I
would
only
add
dr
titus,
that
the
real,
the
the
on
the
ground
impact
of
this
is
that
out
of
state
sellers
would
have
to
get
the
certification
referenced
in
the
legislation.
This
would
have
no
significant
impact
whatsoever,
no
impact
whatsoever
on
they're
already
under
the
jurisdiction
of
department
of
agriculture
and
the
smaller
ones
that
you
reference.
Q
So
the
net
effect
of
this
would
be
the
out
of
state
producers
are
bringing
eggs
in
would
need
to
certify
their
cage,
free,
we're
unaware
of
any
any
that
don't
wouldn't
qualify
as
cage
free,
and
the
purpose
for
the
amendment
that
we
worked
with
department
of
ag
with
was
to
make
sure
there
wouldn't
be
any
additional
additional
requirements
that
they
couldn't
fit
within
their
current
practice.
F
That
line
of
questioning
I'm
just
so
does
that
mean
that
our
department
ag
is
now
have
to
go
to
colorado
and
inspect
them,
and
they'll
have
to
have
a
separate
certificate
to
bring
their
eggs
into
here
and
that
they'll
have
to
now
go
to
california
and
inspect
them
and
give
them
that
certificate
once
a
year,
so
that
now
they're
going
to
have
to
have
a
special
certificate
from
the
state
of
nevada.
In
addition
to
additional
fees
from
the
state
of
nevada,
and
do
they
have
a
capacity
for
that.
Q
So,
if
I
may,
mr
chairman,
vice
chair,
so
the
the
the
the
onus
is
already
on
the
or
out
would
be
on
the
business
to
get
the
certification,
so
it
wouldn't
require
that
there's,
there's
any
visitation
visits
or
anything
from
from
it's
from
the
department
of
ag.
It's
just
a
certification
process
that
they're
certifying
their
eggs
or
kids
free.
F
So
so
are
there
other,
like
I
know
on
when
you
have
a
certified
organic?
I
know
that
we
don't
have
the
capacity
and
our
department
of
ag
to
certify.
Perhaps
a
crop,
that's
organic,
so
they
actually
have
other
companies
that
can
give
a
certificate
that
it's
organic
and
you
and
the
company
then
pays
for
that.
Is
that
similar
to
what
this
would
be,
that
somebody
else
would
certify
the
name.
Q
You
just
got
over
my
pay
scale,
dr
titus,
so
maybe
I
could
refer
that
to
mr
van
gaarchum
or
mr
sorry
to
one
of
my
colleagues,
mr
wilkins,
sorry,
mr
wilkins,
if
they
are
able
to
address
how
that
is
happening
in
practice
now
in
other
states,.
M
Q
M
Okay,
thank
you
for
that
and
with
that
I
have
a
question
from
assembly
assemblywoman
here.
I
I
It
sounds
like
it
is
consumer
driven
that
we're
we're.
We
really
are
getting
there
yeah.
You
mentioned
several
of
you
mentioned
in
your
testimony
that
you
know
the
consumer
demanded.
Nevada
sounds
to
be
pretty
good,
that
restaurants,
several
stores.
I
know
my
experience
over
the
last
40
years
of
grocery
shopping.
I
have
seen
quite
the
transition.
I
I
I
I
I
got
a
little
bit
of
a
worldview
issue
with
the
idea
of
forcing
it
when
the
market
tends
to
be
trending
that
way,
and
then
perhaps
this
is
the
question:
if
this
is
a
practice
that
is
so
disturbing
and-
and
I
think
it
is,
do
we
not
address
it
through
at
the
federal
level
with
usda?
I
think
that's
their
jurisdiction,
that
if
there
are
these
kinds
of
productions
producers
going
on
in
the
united
states,
isn't
it
better
to
go
after
it.
Q
Madam
charles
amount
of
vice
chair
I'd
like
I'd-
let
mr
van
gork
address
that,
but
I
would
just
argue
that
part
of
the
reason
that
the
industry
expressed
to
us
to
have
this
is
so
they
have
some
certainty.
Q
I
think
you
could
argue
that
the
prices
will
go
up
without
this
kind
of
certainty,
because
they'll
be
having
to
deal
with
different
regulations
in
different
states.
That's
part
of
their
motivation
here
is
so
they
can
develop
a
business
model
for
this,
since
that
is
where
the
market's
headed.
I
think
it's
always
better
on
these
kinds
of
things.
D
Madam
vice
chair
and
assembly
member
hanson
in
an
effort
to
be
very
griefy
brief,
we're
looking
for
consistency
on
a
regional
basis,
we're
looking
that
consistency
will
allow
us
to
be
more
efficient.
It
will
allow
us
to
get
the
funding.
We
need
to
continue
expansion
so,
rather
than
deal
with
the
us,
we
want
to
get
nevada
aligned
with
what's
going
on
in
your
neighboring
states
and
to
have
a
consistency
in
in
this
region
which
will
bring
down
costs
and
keep
them
lower.
M
Thank
you
for
that
answer,
and
so
I
think
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
because
we
do
have
to
get
moving.
I'm
going
to
ask
anyone
else
to
have
questions
to
ask
them
offline,
and
especially
thank
assemblyman
ellison,
who
I
skipped
over
and
has
now
lost
his
face
for
a
question
and
are
we
ready
for
support.
M
M
Okay
and
then
we're
I'm
we're
going
to
go
20
minutes
in
support
20
minutes
in
opposition
and
20
minutes
in
neutral,
and
we
will
time
for
two
minutes
per
person
and
without
bps.
Please
give
get
us
the
first
person
who's
in
support
on
the
phones.
J
P
P
First,
I
would
like
to
thank
chairman
watts
for
sponsoring
this
bill
as
egg
farmers.
The
health
of
our
hens
is
the
most
important
thing
to
us
running.
An
egg
farm
goes
far
beyond
just
that,
though,
over
the
past
five
years,
or
so,
we
have
invested
significantly
in
upgrading
our
farm,
including
adding
cage-free
production.
P
P
This
bill
provides
the
clarity
and
certainty
that
we
need
as
egg
farmers
to
plan
our
future
to
obtain
financing,
building
permits,
etc,
so
that
we
can
continue
supplying
fresh
high
quality
eggs
for
generations
to
come.
It
also
helps
immensely
towards
having
one
standard
in
the
western
united
states,
as
several
other
southwest
states
have
already
passed
similar
legislation.
P
J
K
Hello,
this
is
marie
camino
with
mercy
for
animals.
K
M-A-R-I-E-C-A-M-I-N-O,
thank
you,
chair
watts,
for
sponsoring
this
bill
and
dear
vice,
chair
cohen
and
esteemed
members
of
the
committee.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
comment
in
support
of
ab399
mercy
for
animals
is
a
non-profit
organization
with
approximately
2
000
nevada-based
supporters
dedicated
to
creating
a
more
compassionate
food
system.
K
Here
I
will
outline
how
ab399
protects
animal
welfare
and
consumers
in
terms
of
animal
welfare.
Ap
399
would
be
one
of
the
most
comprehensive
farm
animal
protection
initiatives
to
date
by
ensuring
that
egg
laying
hens
have
space
to
exhibit
natural
behaviors
such
as
walking
dust,
bathing,
perching
and
nesting.
K
All
animals
deserve
space
to
exhibit
natural
behaviors,
as
chairwatch
watts
mentioned
previously.
Nevada
would
join
states
like
california,
washington,
michigan,
colorado
and
massachusetts
and
creating
a
more
compassionate
food
system
for
egg
laying
hens.
Should
this
bill
pass
another
point
on
food
safety
confining
egg-laying,
hens
and
cages
puts
nevadans
at
risk.
More
than
a
dozen
studies
have
found
that
salmonella
is
actually
more
prevalent
in
cage
egg
production
than
in
cage-free.
Increasing
the
risk
of
disease.
K
J
T
T
We
believe
that
government
has
a
proper
role
in
food
safety
matters
and
oversight
in
making
certain
that
the
foods
we
eat
are
safe.
We
believe
that
government
has
a
proper
role
in
maintaining
standards
to
make
certain
that
animals
are
not
mistreated
or
abused
in
the
state
where
they
are
kept.
We
believe
that
animal
health
standards
fit
within
the
appropriate
jurisdiction
of
federal
and
state
agencies
who
have
authority
for
such
responsibilities.
T
We
do
not
believe
that
it
is
appropriate
for
the
nevada
department
of
agriculture
to
be
assigned
a
role
in
checking
the
paperwork
on
whether
eggs
or
egg
products
sold
in
nevada
have
come
from
birds
in
other
states
with
designated
management
requirements
that
rightfully
belong
under
the
state
authority
where
the
birds
live
as
far
as
site
regulations
in
nevada.
We
aren't
aware
that
nevada
department
of
agriculture
has
an
inspection
program
for
this
purpose.
Will
we
need
new
regulations
as
a
general
farm
organization,
nevada,
farm
bureau
members
are
involved
in
the
production
of
different
food
and
fibers?
T
We
have
members
in
nevada
who
do
sell
poultry
and
eggs.
We
haven't
gone
door
to
door
or
searched
in
people's
backyards
to
measure
how
much
space
their
chickens
might
have
given
the
already
intrusive
level
of
government.
We
don't
believe
that
these
types
of
investigations
would
properly
fit
into
the
scope
of
the
work
that
nevada
government
should
be
going
through
either.
T
Given
the
market
forces
that
we've
been
hearing
about,
why
do
we
need
government
to
force
the
only
choice
to
be
what
is
required
by
this
bill?
Private
sector,
vendors
of
eggs
or
egg
products
have
a
system
for
third
party
verification
that
provides
for
being
able
to
label
the
eggs
that
they
sell,
coming
from
cage
free
or
not.
T
M
T
While
we
are
unaware
of
the
existence
of
any
commercial
poultry
operations
in
nevada,
this
bill
would
effectively
ban
the
in-state
sale
of
eggs
in
nevada
from
quote-unquote
caged
birds
from
out
of
state.
The
bill's
market
mandate
is
a
huge
concern
concern
and
should
be
a
major
concern
to
direct
stakeholders,
I.e
the
consumer.
T
We
believe
that
the
effort
to
place
this
proposal
in
statute
is
overreaching
and
unnecessary,
especially
considering
voluntary
measures
already
agreed
through
to
through
various
corporate
policies.
Logically,
we
are
also
led
to
believe
that
the
next
step
is
legislation
extending
authority
on
how
we
produce
pork,
dairy
beef,
etc
in
nevada.
T
We
ask
that
the
market
and
consumers
choice
dictate
what
items
are
put
on
the
shelf
and
are
concerned
that
policies
like
this
set
a
precedent
for
advocacy
groups
to
use
the
law
to
force
retailers
to
carry
their
type
of
product.
With
that
said,
the
nevada
cattlemen's
association
respectfully
asked
the
committee
not
to
pass
ap
399..
M
Thank
you
and
I
don't
believe,
there's
anyone
on
the
zoom,
so
we
will
go
to
neutral.
Do
we
have
anyone
in
the
zoom
on
neutral,
okay,
just
checking,
please
go
ahead.
J
I
apologize
to
testify
in
neutral
on
ab399,
please
press
star
9
now
to
take
your
place
in
the.
J
C
Good
afternoon,
chair
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
alexandria,
dazlich
d-a-z-l-I-c-h
and
I'm
the
director
of
government
relations
for
the
nevada
restaurant
association,
the
nevada
restaurant
association
is
here
today
in
neutral
to
ab399
with
amendments.
We
appreciate
the
intent
behind
the
bill
and
understand
that
the
industry
is
moving
in
the
direction
of
greater
access
to
cage-free
eggs.
However,
we
ask
that
the
transition
would
be
initiated
in
a
reasonable
amount
of
time.
C
Instituting
this
level
of
change
in
the
distribution
and
supply
of
a
staple
food
on
such
a
short
timeline
will
likely
have
negative
effects
on
many
of
our
operators.
We
appreciate
the
bill,
sponsors,
openness,
openness
to
amending
the
bill
and
look
forward
to
working
with
all
the
stakeholders
involved
to
find
a
workable
solution.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
C
T
T
We
do
apologize
for
the
scheduling,
but
we
do
believe
that
this
is
the
direction
that
the
industry
is
going,
but
we
do
have
concerns
over
the
implementation
period.
Colorado
has
been
mentioned
several
times
during
the
presentation
and
their
ban
does
not
go
into
effect
until
2025,
so
we
would
be
looking
for
language
that
most
closely
aligns
with
that
consistent
framework
that
the
supporters
are
looking
for.
So
we
appreciate
the
sponsor
bringing
this
to
nevada,
and
we
appreciate
the
ability
to
work
on
this
as
it
continues
to
move.
T
Good
afternoon,
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record
david
davlich
d-a-z-l-I-c-h
director
of
government
affairs
for
the
vegas
chamber,
we
are
in
neutral
today
on
ab-399.
We
do,
however,
share
the
concerns
voiced
by
the
restaurant
association,
the
retail
association
and
others.
Our
position
in
neutral
today
is
based
off
the
proposed
amendment
recommended
by
the
retail
and
restaurant
associations
to
allow
for
greater
timelines
for
implementation
and
greater
flexibility.
Thank
you.
M
Thank
you
and
I,
and
before
we
go
on
to
the
next
caller
I'll,
just
remind
the
stakeholders
to
please
reach
out
to
the
sponsor
with
any
proposals
next
person
in
neutral.
Please.
A
Thank
you
very
much
random
vice
chair.
I
know
we're
we're
over
time
here
and
appreciate
everyone's
time.
Attention
and
questions
to
this.
I
just
want
to
reiterate
this
is
something
that's
being
brought
forward
in
conjunction
between
the
industry
and
animal
welfare
advocates,
it's
something
that
we
can
accomplish
without
increasing
prices,
but
we
can
improve
the
health,
the
reputation,
the
health
of
the
animals,
the
quality
of
the
product,
the
reputation
of
the
producers.
A
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
win-win.
I
appreciate
the
comments
made
by
those
who
came
in
neutral.
I've
only
just
learned
about
their
issues
right
before
the
meeting
and
I'm
glad
to
work
with
them
to
adjust
the
implementation
timeline
as
soon
as
they
provide
a
proposal
to
me,
and
with
that
I
appreciate
the
committee's
time
and
attention
and
urge
your
support
for
assembly
bill
399.
M
A
A
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Thank
you
again,
members
thank
you
to
everyone
who
joined
us,
including
the
public
and
others
who
took
time
to
provide
their
comments
during
this
meeting.
Thank
you
again
to
members
for
all
the
time
that
you
took
into
bps
staff
for
helping
facilitate
everything.
That
concludes
today's
meeting.
A
Our
next
meeting
will
be
on
friday,
the
ninth
upon
the
adjournment
of
commerce
and
labor,
and
as
folks
who
have
done
this
before
know
we're
well
once
we
have
the
folks
together,
we'll
get
together
and
we'll
work
session,
the
the
last
of
the
bills
that
that
we
have
on
on
deck.
So
thank
you
all
for
your
work
so
far,
and
with
that
this
meeting
is
a.