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A
D
A
Here,
thank
you.
We
have
all
members
present.
We
have
a
quorum
before
we
get
started
I'll,
go
through
a
couple
of
quick
housekeeping
announcements,
as
we
usually
do
members.
Please
remember
to
mute
yourselves
when
you
are
not
speaking.
So
we
can
minimize
background
noise.
A
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of
the
public
may
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or
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hours.
A
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meeting
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committee,
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must
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submitted
electronically,
as
a
pdf
to
our
committee
manager
no
later
than
4
pm
on
the
business
day.
Prior
to
the
meeting,
amendments
must
include
bill
number.
A
A
statement
of
intent
and
contact
information
all
submitted
exhibits
can
be
found
on
the
legislature's
website
when
we
do
get
to
testimony
and
public
comments,
we
ask
that
they
be
kept
in
two
minutes
so
that
we
can
accommodate
all
speakers
and
get
through
our
agenda
in
a
timely
manner
and
we
are
going
to
have
some
committee
action
so
again.
A
Just
a
reminder
for
folks
to
please
provide
their
name
when
making
a
motion
or
second
and
to
say
yes
or
no,
when
we
take
a
vote
with
that,
we'll
move
on
we're
gonna
start
with
our
work
session.
Today
we
have
two
bills
on
our
work
session
and
with
that
and
we
may
call
upon
sponsors
or
presenters
to
clarify
any
questions
that
may
arise
but
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
started
with
assembly
bill
171.
A
E
Thank
you,
chair
for
the
record,
youngster
inspect
with
the
research
division
assembly.
Bill
171
was
hurt
in
this
committee
on
march
15th
and
it
declares
that
it's
the
policy
of
the
state
of
nevada
to
protect
the
spring
population
of
rocky
mountain
junipers
known
as
swamp
cedars
that
occur
in
white
pine
county
within
the
vasava
traditional
cultural
property.
E
The
bill
makes
it
unoff
any
swamps,
heater
within
that
property
to
be
willfully
or
net,
naturally
cut
destroyed,
mutilated
or
removed
without
first
obtaining
a
special
permit
from
the
state
forest
or
fire
warden,
and
there
is
one
amendment
solomon
watts
proposed
this
amendment,
which
makes
the
following
change.
It
provides
that
indian
tribes
are
exempt
from
the
provision
of
the
bill,
whether
the
indian
tribe
is
native
to
nevada
or
not,
and
the
amendment
is
attached
as
well
to
the
work
recession
document
with
that.
Thank
you,
chair.
F
Thank
you.
I
just
I
you
know,
I'm
sorry.
This
just
occurred
to
me.
I
didn't
think
of
this
before
when
I
was
reading
this
okay,
so
the
the
exception
now
for
native
americans
is
that
we're
saying
that's
for
any
members
of
any
tribes.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
a
group
organizat.
You
know
what
I
mean.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
a
tribal
event
for
the
exception
to
apply.
A
Thank
you
for
that
question
and
for
the
record,
this
is
howard
watts.
So
the
original
exemption
had
language
that
specif
had
the
word
native
in
it,
which
there
was
concern
that
that
language
could
exclude
members
of
indian
tribes
native
american
tribes
that
reside
outside
the
state.
We
have
several
tribes
whose
lands
occupy
multiple
states,
so
the
intent
of
the
amendment
was
to
clarify
that
you
know,
and-
and
we
also
have
large
traditional
tribes
that
are
now
exist
in
multiple
tribal
governments.
A
So
the
purpose
was
to
clarify
that
anyone
who
comes
here
to
practice
their
ceremonies
or
to
gather
food
or
medicine
is
covered
by
the
the
existing
exemption.
That
is,
that
is
under
statute.
F
Okay,
thank
you
so
for
that,
so,
if
it's
an
individual
person,
they
have
to
be
gathering
food,
doing
something
gathering
medicinal
gathering,
the
food
gather
articles
for
food,
medicinal
or
ceremonial
use
it
can't
just
be.
I
want
to
hang
out.
G
A
H
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
will
support
this
measure
out
of
committee,
but
may
reserve
my
right
to
change
my
vote
on
the
floor.
A
Thank
you
for
that
and,
of
course,
members
are
not
bound,
but
I
do
ask
that
if
you
intend
to
change
your
vote
between
committee
and
the
floor
that
you
let
me
know,
thank
you
any
other
discussion
on
the
motion.
I
I
J
A
Yes,
thank
you
very
much.
That
motion
carries
and
I
will
assign
myself
the
floor
statement
for
assembly
build
171.
A
E
The
next
measure
on
work
session
today
is
the
semi-joint
resolution,
four,
the
surgeon
committee
on
march
15th,
and
it
urges
certain
land
in
spring
valley
to
be
designated
and
as
a
national
heritage
area.
Again
there
was
one
amendment
proposed
to
the
measure
by
something
in
watts
and
it
makes
the
following
changes.
It
revises
the
whereas
clauses
in
order
to
provide
language
that
reflect
the
experience
of
the
indian
tribes
in
this
area,
including
language
that
discusses
the
spiritual
beliefs
of
the
stripe
of
the
tribes
and
the
massacres
that
occurred
in
this
area.
E
A
Thank
you,
mr
stennis
beck.
Are
there
any
questions
or
discussion.
F
A
H
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
as
I
stated
previously,
and
I'm
going
to
say
again
that
I'm
going
to
support
this
out
of
committee
but
reserve
my
right
to
change
on
the
floor.
J
A
A
With
that
we'll
move
on
to
our
bill
hearings
for
the
day
and
I'm
going
to
start
with
assembly
bill
275,
so
I'll
open
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
275,
which
establishes
provisions
relating
to
the
use
of
pesticides
containing
certain
chemicals,
welcome,
assemblywoman,
gorlo
to
the
committee
on
natural
resources.
K
Thank
you
and
good
afternoon,
chair
watts
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record.
I
am
michelle
gorlow
representing
assembly
district
35
in
clark
county,
I'm
pleased
to
present
assembly
bill
275,
which
establishes
neonicotinoid
pesticides,
also
known
as
neonics
for
short
as
restricted
used
pesticides
in
the
state
before
reviewing
the
bill
and
conceptual
amendment
which
should
have
been
delivered
to
your
offices.
This
morning,
I'd
like
to
begin
by
explaining
the
origins
of
neonic
pesticides
and
how
they've
come
to
undermine
important
pollinator
populations.
K
Neonicotinoid
pesticides
first
emerge
in
the
1990s
as
a
safe
and
environmentally
friendly
alternative
to
more
traditional
insecticides.
Neonic
manufacturers
praised
and
marketed
its
non-toxicity
for
mammals
and
vertebrates,
its
water,
solubility
and
selectivity
for
certain
insects.
The
market
for
neonic
pesticides
exploded
after
farmers
and
consumers
alike,
made
the
switch,
which
is
why
neonicotinoids
gross
billions
of
dollars
annually
today
neonics
are
ubiquitous
in
nevada.
There
are
more
than
650
registered
neonicotinoid
containing
pesticides
in
the
marketplace.
K
The
problem
with
neonics
is
that
they
are
systemic.
They
dissolve
in
water,
so
plants
absorb
the
toxins
into
their
tissues
when
bees
and
other
pollinators
like
butterflies,
encounter
these
neonic
treated
plants,
it
can
be
devastating
at
toxic
levels,
neonics
kill
bees
and
even
with
sub-lethal
amounts,
the
negative
outcomes
are
lasting.
K
Cornell
university's
pollinator
network
has
compiled
a
list
of
studies
documenting
the
effects
of
neonics
on
bees.
Research
has
shown
that
exposure
to
neonics
alters
memory
and
learning
impairs
navigation
and
locomotion.
Skills
weakens
immunity
and
reduces
food
consumption.
Reproduction
and
forage
rates.
K
Specific
neonic
chemicals
have
also
been
shown
to
pose
even
more
serious
threats
to
pollinator
health
amidocloprid,
which
is
the
most
widely
used
pesticide
in
the
world,
has
been
linked
to
colony
collapse,
disorder
by
researchers
at
the
harvard
school
of
public
health.
The
study
suggests
that
low-dose
exposures
to
neonics
can
trigger
a
biological
reaction
in
bees
more
fatal
than
compromised
immunity.
As
other
studies
have
demonstrated,
the
threats
new
and
exposed
to
pollinator
health
are
well-founded,
which
is
why
governments
have
already
taken
action
to
limit
neonicotinoid
use
in
2018.
K
The
european
union
banned
outdoor
use
of
neonics,
and
already
four
states
have
made
neonics
restricted
use.
There
are
also
five
other
states
with
neonicotinoid
legislation.
This
session
ab275
is
a
small
contribution
towards
curbing
neonicotinoid
use.
In
essence,
it
would
remove
neonic
pesticides
from
consumer
shelves,
but
allow
professional
farmers
and
gardeners
to
continue
using
and
here's
how
it
works.
K
The
nevada
pesticide
act
grants
the
director
of
the
department
of
agriculture
the
power
to
classify
certain
harmful
or
toxic
pesticides
as
restricted
use,
section
three
of
the
bill
would
amend
the
statute
defining
restricted
use
pesticide
by
creating
a
new
subsection
that
includes
neonicotinoid
pesticides.
In
the
definition
section,
one
of
the
bill
articulates
what
is
meant
by
neonicotinoid
pesticides
to
include
all
these
existing
active
ingredient.
Neonic
chemicals
in
any
future
chemical.
K
The
director
assigns
to
the
neonicotinoid
class.
The
proposed
amendment
slightly
alters
this
definition
by
excluding
certain
consumer
products,
wood
preservation
and
pest
control
activities
from
the
definition
I've
elected
to
do
so,
because
research
has
shown
that
these
products
and
services
pose
a
negligible
risk
to
pollinators
section.
Two
of
the
bill
makes
a
conforming
change
to
place.
K
A
definition
of
neonicotinoids
into
nrs
and
section
four
formally
authorizes
the
director
of
agriculture
to
designate
any
chemical,
not
included
in
the
definition
as
a
part
of
the
neonic
class
section
5
adds
a
new
definition
of
restricted
use,
pesticide
to
nrs
586.206,
which
establishes
the
rules
for
selling
restricted
use
pesticides
in
the
state.
According
to
the
statute,
restricted
use,
pesticide
retailers
register
with
the
department
annually
maintain
at
least
two
years
of
records
and
submit
a
monthly
report
detailing
sales
under
law.
K
Finally,
section
11
sets
the
effective
date
for
the
bill
as
january
1st
2022,
as
written
ab-275
will
require
two-thirds
vote
because
the
department
of
agriculture
issues
fees
to
administer
the
restricted
use
pesticide
program
for
the
committee's
edification,
restricted
use.
Retailers
pay
a
flat
fee
of
25
annually
to
register
with
the
department
of
agriculture.
K
The
department
also
oversees
certification
for
farmers
and
applicators
through
an
exam
that
cost
fifty
dollars.
Nda
also
provides
info
on
free
training,
workshops
and
self-study
guides
passage
guarantees
four
years
of
certification,
so
the
annual
expense
to
applicators
is
only
twelve
dollars
and
fifty
cents.
This
modest
fee
ensures
that
the
department
can
operate
and
regulate
restricted,
use
pesticides
without
additional
money
from
the
state's
general
fund.
K
We
do
not
anticipate
this
bill
to
have
any
meaningful
financial
impact
on
retailers
or
farmers,
because
for
the
most
part
they
already
are
registered
or
certified
by
classifying
new
nics
as
restricted
use.
We
ensure
that
only
qualified
and
trained
applicators
have
access
and
save
our
pollinator
population
from
unintentional
overuse.
K
I'd
like
to
now
turn
it
over
to
matthew
forrester.
He
is
a
trevor
j
mcmahon
endowed
professor
in
biology
at
the
university
of
nevada
reno.
He
will
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
our
declining
insect
populations
in
nevada
and
after
that
we
have
malia.
Libby
conservation
associate
environment
in
america
will
discuss
some
other
ecological
ramifications
of
neonic
pesticides.
Thank
you
very
much.
L
Great
thanks,
I'm
happy
to
have
a
chance
to
talk
to
you
all.
So
I
am
an
insect
ecologist
in
the
biology
department
at
unr,
and
I
have
three
points.
I'd
like
to
make
briefly
that
I
hope
are
relevant
to
this
bill.
So
first
pollinators
are
declining
in
the
western
u.s,
specifically
in
the
western
us
and
possibly
more
severely
than
in
the
rest
of
the
country.
In
my
lab,
we
study
historical
records
from
nevada
and
from
across
the
region,
and
we
have
estimated
a
rate
of
decline
of
1.6
percent
fewer
butterflies
per
year.
L
So
that's
a
compounding
annual
startling
loss.
Butterflies
are
important,
pollinators
and
food
for
other
organisms
having
fewer
butterflies
represents
a
loss
of
ecosystem
function
and
value
for
human
society.
We
don't
have
the
same
historical
data
on
other
insects
like
wild
bees,
but
we
have
good
reason
to
believe
they
are
declining
at
a
similar
rate
and
since
it's
interesting
to
note
that
the
rate
of
decline
that
I'm
talking
about
is
consistent
with
observations
reported
from
the
general
public,
the
so-called
windshield
effect
people
observe
fewer
insects
smashed
on
their
windshields
and
that's
because
they're
declining.
L
So,
second,
based
on
analyses
of
climate
land
use
and
historical
records,
the
causes
of
these
declines
are
well
understood.
They
are
habitat,
loss,
climate
change
and
pesticides,
including
neonics,
as
well
as
other
kinds
of
habitat
degradation
in
nevada,
and
I
talked
to
the
public
a
fair
bit
about
that
of
this.
I
find
that
there's
a
tendency
for
nevadans
to
assume
that
we
have
so
much
open
land
in
our
state
that
we
don't
need
to
worry
about
pesticides
on
lands
that
are
closed
at
home,
in
our
yards
or
in
city
parks,
for
example.
L
L
That
raises
the
stakes
for
careful
management
of
the
lands
that
we
have
close
at
hand,
in
other
words
in
our
yards
and
other
areas,
that
we
can
control.
Third,
and
very
briefly,
smart
pesticide
regulation
in
towns
and
cities,
and
my
in
my
opinion
is
important
for
farmers.
Agriculture
needs
a
diversity
of
insects
for
pollination
for
pest
control
and
other
services,
so
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
that
pesticide
control
is
an
issue.
It's
an
issue
of
food
security
and
job
security
for
rural
areas,
as
well
as
an
issue
of
quality
of
life
for
all
nevadans.
L
K
A
G
G
I
want
to
urge
the
committee
to
move
forward
with
this
bill
to
classify
neonicotinoids
as
restricted
used.
Pesticides,
as
you
have
heard,
neonics
have
dire
impacts
on
pollinators
in
the
state
and,
unfortunately,
the
impacts
on
the
environment
go
much
further
than
this.
The
nature
of
these
pesticides
to
dissolve
in
water
means
that
the
pesticides
can
travel
far
beyond
where
they
were
initially
applied.
G
Neonics
are
carried
into
soil
and
groundwater
areas
where
the
pesticide
can
persist
for
years
before
being
broken
down
or
coming
into
contact
with
wildlife.
In
a
2015
study
by
the
u.s
geological
survey,
neonicotinoids
were
detected
in
half
of
all
streams.
Sampled
across
the
united
states
and
puerto
rico.
G
The
neonicotinoids
detected
most
frequently
was
imidacloprid
and
it
was
notably
associated
with
use
in
urban
settings.
In
these
urban
settings,
munich
were
detected
year-round
rather
than
seasonally
as
typical
of
agricultural
streams,
wildlife
from
butterflies
and
other
valuable
pollinators
to
predatory
insects
that
keep
pests
in
check
are
impacted
by
neonics.
G
The
widespread
detection
of
neonics
and
waterways
is
particularly
concerning
for
invertebrates
in
aquatic
habitats
and
the
birds,
fish
and
amphibians
that
rely
on
these
invertebrates
for
food.
Additionally,
people
are
unwittingly
exposed
to
neonics
through
tap
water
university
of
iowa
researchers
detected
neonics
in
already
treated
tap
water.
These
researchers
have
found
that
common
water
treatment
methods
such
as
chlorination,
can
make
neonics
even
more
dangerous
by
causing
them
to
react
and
form
more
toxic
substances.
G
G
Four
states
have
already
achieved
restricting
the
use
of
neonics
in
retail
sales
and
with
this
bill,
nevada
is
poised
to
join
them
and
protect
a
diverse
set
of
species
from
bees
and
birds,
and
also
our
own
health.
While
doing
so
in
my
final
remarks,
I
want
to
emphasize
how
important
this
change
would
be
for
nevada,
with
these
pesticides
remaining
in
the
environment.
Long
after
they
have
been
put
there,
the
scenery
and
uses
of
neonics,
the
sooner
we
will
see
our
environment
put
back
in
balance.
A
K
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
presentation
with
that
committee
I'll
open
it
up
for
questions.
I
believe.
First,
we
had
assemblywoman
titus.
H
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
for
the
question.
I
actually
have
a
couple.
First,
simon
gorlo,
thank
you
for
bringing
the
bill
forward.
I
was
working
in
my
yard
yesterday,
my
apricot,
the
foolish
tree
is
blooming
too
early
in
northern
nevada,
but
it
was
full
of
honeybees
and
I
was
thankful
that
they
were
there.
My
grandfather
was
a
bee
man
in
smith
valley.
He,
his
two
ways
to
make
a
living
for
his
family
was
honey.
H
He
was
a
honey
man
in
his
med
valley
and
he
had
sheep
many
times
when
the
crop
dusters
would
go
out
and
spray
the
alfalfa
field,
they
would
call
my
grandpas,
so
he
could
go
in
and
put
his
bees
in,
so
they
wouldn't
kill
them.
Unfortunately,
many
times
they
didn't
call
him,
and
so
they
would
all
die
and
he'd
have
to
start
over.
So
I'm
acutely
aware
of
what
pesticides
do
to
the
bee
population,
but
I
have
a
couple
questions
with
us.
K
Thank
you,
assemblywoman
titus
to
you
through
chair
watts.
Yes,
there
are
products
that
are
available
on
the
shelves,
although
there
are
several
products
that
retailers
have
voluntarily
removed
from
the
shelves,
but
you
can
still
find
them.
So
I
don't
have
a
list,
though
sorry
follow
up
on
that.
H
Thank
you
chair.
Would
they
this
build
and
allow
notification
that
what
about
all
the
folks
who
have
them
and
not
know
that
this
is
now
banded?
I
see
it
doesn't
start
until
2022
and
so
those
folks
who
maybe
buy
it
every
couple
years
they
have
something
that
they
could
buy.
How
do
we
get
the
notice
out
from
the
department
of
ag
from
home
depot
from
lowe's,
whoever
that
you
have
this
product.
K
Thank
you,
chair
titus,
for
the
record
assemblyman,
michelle
gorlow.
That
would
be
something
that
the
department
of
ag
would
work
on
to
notify
retailers,
that
this
is
a
restricted
product,
we're
not
going
to
ask
people
to
throw
away
their
product.
It's
just.
They
would
not
be
able
to
purchase
any
new
products
after
january
2022,
so
any
product
that
they
have
would
just
stay
until
they
used
it
all.
H
And
final
question:
something
watch
on
the
actual
bill
as
written
on
section
section:
four
number:
two:
you
have
that
the
director
may
by
regulation
designate
any
other
chemical
not
listed
in
section
one
of
this
act
as
belonging
to
the
basically
neonic
class
of
chemicals,
even
if
it
doesn't
belong
there
because
there's
no
clarification
there.
So
I'm
wondering
about
that
open-ended
language,
any
class.
They
want
to
designate
she'll
designate
or
does
it
have
to
be
some
science
behind
it?.
K
Thank
you
again
for
the
question
for
the
record
assembly,
michelle
gorlow,
that
is,
to
allow
the
director
to
put
on
any
new
neonicotinoid
class
product
that
would
be
developed
in
the
future
onto
it.
So
we
can
clarify
that
language
that
it
is
specifically
for
a
neonic
product
that
may,
in
the
future,
be
developed
in
the
future.
H
M
Chairman
assemblywoman,
I
understand
the
intent
of
your
bill,
good
intent,
I
think,
but
I
was
going
to
ask
you
about
section:
4,
subsection
2,
just
like
assemblywoman
titus
did
it's
so
open-ended
that
I
see
that
the
plain
language
of
the
bill
says
something
that's
a
lot
different
than
the
intent
of
the
bill,
and
I
would
ask
that
that
kind
of
be
fixed.
Okay,
thank
you.
K
I
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you,
ms
gordo,
for
bringing
the
bill
forward.
I
just
had
a
few
questions
that
number
two
was
asked
twice
so,
but
I
do
have
something
to
ask
about
section:
seven
and
you've
got
eight
items
listed
on
here.
Actually,
seven
out
of
all
them
is
is
any
of
these
on
the
market
today
or
these
ones
are
going
to
be
limited
or
can
you
can?
I
answer
that
and
then
I've
got
how
many
of
these
pesticides
right
now
are
illegal
for
private
owned
private
lands.
K
Thank
you
for
the
question
sentiment
ellison
for
the
record
assembly,
one
michelle
gorlow.
I
will
have
to
look
for
a
list.
I
know
that
many
of
these
chemicals
have
already
been
voluntarily
pulled
by
retailers.
I
found
the
list
on
the
internet
and
I
tried
printing
it
and
it
did
not
print
well
at
all.
So
I
will
try
again
maybe
copy
paste
if
I
have
to
type
them
out
myself.
I
will
get
you
that
list
so
that
you'll
have
that
by
the
end
of
the
week.
I
I'm
so
sorry,
sir,
I
pushed
the
button
twice.
I
was
reading
a
article
this
recently
about,
b
and
and
of
course,
to
try
to
find
out
why
the
bees
are.
You
know,
because
we
have
a
large
garden
in
our
area
and
we
get
one
or
two
bees,
that's
it
so
I
looked
on
there
and
and
they
said
that
they
have
no
idea
where
all
these
bees
went
to
because
they
never
found
storms
of
bodies.
I
L
Can
I
address
that?
Yes,
this
is
matt
forester,
so
the
expectation
of
finding
dead
bodies
of
insects,
that's
a
tall
order,
and
it's
not
really
needed
this.
This
problem
has
been
studied
from
sort
of
all
different
angles.
L
L
They're
designed
to
do
that,
it's
really
not
shocking
that
they
would
another
thing
to
keep
in
mind
when
you're
trying
to
get
to
the
bottom
of
reports
like
that.
One
is
that
the
honeybee
is
only
one
out
of
hundreds
of
bees
in
nevada
and
really
we
need
all
of
those
bees
moving
forward.
The
managed
european
honey
bee
that
we
use
to
get
honey
from
is
fine,
but
it's
not
our
most
important
wild
bee.
We
need
to
look
out
for
the
hundreds
of
wild
bees
that
live
in
this
state
as
well.
I
L
I
am
not
an
expert
in
the
the
market
availability
of
these
things.
I
know
I
was
actually
just
looking
last
night.
The
the
xerxes
society
for
invertebrate
conservation
has
a
lot
of
good
resources
online,
and
I
was
looking
at
some
of
their
lists
of
available
pesticides
containing
munich
and
there
are
many
of
them.
I
I
don't
know
them
off
hand,
but
we
could
get
you.
Those
lists.
C
A
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
ellison,
and
for
the
questions
do
any
other
members
have.
A
Questions
all
right.
Well,
I
have
a
couple
just
wanted
to
follow
up
on
a
couple
of
points,
so
I
think
one
of
the
previous
questions
was
about
was
kind
of
referencing
colony,
collapse,
disorder
and
and
that
there
are
a
lot
of
research
and
a
lot
of
possible
explanations
for
that,
and
so
I
guess
this
would
be
a
follow-up
to
mr
forrester,
while
there's
still
a
lot
of
research
going
on
about
colony
collapse
disorder.
A
L
That's
exactly
right,
so
I
I
don't
work
on
colony
collapse
disorder.
I
don't
work
on
honeybees
at
all.
I'm
focused
on
natural
ecosystems
and
the
diversity
of
natural
pollinators,
bees
and
and
honey
bees
and
butterflies
and
bumble
bees
and
those
animals
are,
you
know,
incidentally,
impacted
by
our
use
of
these
pesticides
and
they
are
really
a
bigger
problem.
The
honeybee
is
one
very
particular
tiny
bit
of
managed
nature.
We're
worried
about
the
functioning
of
sort
of
all
of
natural
ecosystems
in
the
west
that
are
endangered.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
and
just
for
the
clarity
of
the
record
that
was
my
happy
forester.
A
I
had
a
another
follow-up
question
for
assemblyman
gorlo,
so
it
was
mentioned
there
were
a
few
questions
about
the
availability
and
please
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
this
is
essentially
designating
this
as
restricted
use.
So
anybody
who
goes
through
the
process
to
be
able
to
use
restricted
use
pesticides
would
still
be
able
to
apply
neonicotinoid
pesticides.
Is
that
correct?
It's
just
implementing
a
greater
degree
of
control
and
and
training
before
they
can
be
deployed.
K
K
This
is
just
going
to
continue
the
same
as
the
ones
that
they're
already
restricted,
making
sure
they
have
training
and
again
know
when
and
where
you
don't
want
to
be
putting
this
chemical
down
as
a
titus
had
mentioned
with
her
father,
not
calling
it's
very
breezy
that
can
have
adverse
effects.
We're
trying
to
do
is
limit
the
use
of
this
pesticide
by
people
who
don't
really
understand
what
this
chemical
can
do,
and
so
that's
exactly.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
and
I
have
one
last
question
you
mentioned
that
some
manufacturers
or
retailers
are
pulling
some
of
these
products
off
of
their
shelves,
and
I
believe
I
saw
some
information
that
the
epa
is
also
taking
additional
action
on
this
class
of
pesticides
requiring
additional
personal
protective
equipment,
or
you
know
trying
to
keep
it
from
being
used
on
residential
turf,
providing
additional
language
on
labels
advising
homeowners
not
to
use
these
products
in,
in
certain
circumstances
and
other
things.
A
K
I
thank
you
again
for
that
question,
chair
watts
and
for
the
record
assemblywoman
michelle
guerla,
and
that
is
correct.
The
epa
had
several
of
these
chemicals
as
restricted.
It
was
pulled
back
in
about
2018
and
I'd
have
to
check
for
sure
and
get
you
that
information
on
which
of
the
chemicals
were
on
and
then
had
been
removed
again,
but
they
are
looking
at
putting
some
of
these
back
on
or
restricted,
and
as
mentioned
in
my
testimony,
the
the
european
union
has
restricted
and
eliminated
a
lot
of
the
chemicals.
A
Okay,
seeing
none
thank
you
again
for
the
presentation
we
will
now
move
on
to
testimony
for
assembly
bill
275
as
a
reminder
to
provide
testimony.
You
must
register
online
on
the
legislative
website
where
you
will
receive
the
information
to
dial
in.
Please
remember
to
clearly
state
and
spell
your
name
and
limit
your
testimony
to
two
minutes
with
that
we
will
start
by
taking
testimony
in
support
of
assembly
bill
275.
C
G
Thank
you,
mr
chair
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record.
My
name
is
christy
cabrera
c-h-r-a-s-t-I-c
and
I'm
the
policy
and
advocacy
director
for
the
nevada
conservation
league
neo-nicotinoid
pesticides
have
severe
impacts
on
pollinators
such
as
bees
and
have
been
linked
to
pollinator
decline.
Worldwide
pollinators
are
critical
for
productive
agricultural
crops
and
one
in
every
three
bites
of
food
is
reliant
on
pollinators.
G
G
Munichs
are
also
linked
to
mass
die-offs
that
made
of
bees,
birds,
fish
and
harm
other
insects
and
earthworms,
which
are
which
keep
our
soil
healthy
and
nutrient
nutrient
dense.
If
left,
unchecked,
the
consequences
of
neonic
pesticides
could
lead
to
significant
disruptions
in
our
global
food
supply
and
collapsed
critical
ecosystems.
A
C
B
M-A-D-E-L-Y-N-R-E-E-S-E
and
I'm
a
volunteer
member
of
the
sierra
club's
legislative
committee-
I
am
a
member
of
the
sierra
club
toyabi
chapter
and
we
represent
more
than
30
000
supporters
in
nevada,
and
we
are
in
support
of
ab275
as
massive
numbers
of
bees
and
other
pollinators
keep
dying
across
the
globe.
Study
after
study
continues
to
connect
the
deaths
to
neonicotinoid
pesticides
or
neonics.
These
chemicals
are
neurotoxic,
causing
damage
to
nerve
cells
and
insects
and
ultimately
binding
to
the
cells
and
destroying
them.
Insects,
poison,
with
neonics,
exhibit
shaking
paralysis
and
usually
end
up
dying.
B
Not
only
are
these
pesticides
linked
to
mass
of
b
diodes,
their
use
has
been
shown
to
cause
significant
losses
of
aquatic
invertebrates,
a
critical
food
source
to
birds
and
fish
neonic
use
has
also
been
linked
with
documented
losses
of
bird
and
butterfly
populations.
They
can
these
pesticides
neonics
can
also
persist
in
soil,
water
and
plants.
Long
after
the
pesticide
is
administered,
meaning
their
harmful
effects
can
continue.
B
This
is
a
critic,
critical
and
crucial
way
to
begin
protecting
diversity,
biodiversity
in
the
health
of
our
local
ecosystems,
we've
seen
other
countries
across
the
world,
including
members
of
the
european
union,
as
well
as
canada,
begin
to
outban
several
types
of
neonics,
and
I
would
love
and
all
my
fellow
members
would
love
to
have
nevada
and
be
the
next
to
start
restricting
the
use
of
these
harmful
chemicals.
B
C
C
C
C
M
Thank
you,
chair
and
natural
resource
committee,
for
your
work
and
for
taking
my
testimony
today.
My
name
is
lisa
ortega,
I'm
a
master
arborist
and
current
state
certified
applicator.
Our
city
trees
have
become
ravaged
by
bark
beetles
infesting
in
our
neighborhoods
in
our
community,
especially
in
las
vegas,
especially
in
light
of.
M
M
I
have
also
found
that
homeowners
buy
whatever
they
want
online
restricted
or
not,
and
this
bill
won't
curtail.
That
is
written.
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
considering
putting
them
on
their
restricted
use.
C
N
Hello,
my
name
is
james
russell
j-a-m-e-s,
last
name
r-u-s-s-e-l-l,
I'm
the
president
of
northern
nevada,
beekeeping
association
and
I'm
going
to
kind
of
state.
Some
of
the
obvious
that
has
already
been
brought
up.
Neonics
are
derived
from
nicotine.
We
all
know
what
that
does
to
smokers
with
insects.
It
affects
the
nervous
system.
It
affects
their
navigation
and
orientation
once
they're
exposed
to
it.
They
can't
return
to
the
hive
and
they
just
die
out
in
flight
somewhere
and
the
neonics
are
systemic
they're
taken
up
by
the
plants
work
their
way
up
to
the
plant.
N
N
They
started
discovering
dead,
bumblebees
july
1st
and
they
just
estimated
somewhere
between
25
and
50
000
dead
bumblebees.
Throughout
this
parking
lot,
the
department
of
ag
there
in
oregon
came
out
and
tested
the
tree
foliage
august
12th
and
found
the
insecticide
so
neonics
they
stay
in
the
system
for
a
long
time.
So,
as
was
mentioned
earlier,
honeybees
are
not
the
only
thing.
There's,
probably
over
a
thousand
native
pollinators
in
nevada,
many
butterflies
and
moths
are
pollinators.
N
National
geographic
just
came
out
a
little
while
ago.
It
was
even
on
pbs
that
the
monarch
butterfly
has
declined
80
in
the
past
20
years.
You
know
a
lot
of
that
is
due
to
crop
land,
but
it's
also
due
to
pesticides.
N
N
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
testimony.
If
you
have
additional
remarks,
feel
free
to
provide
those
in
writing
to
our
committee
secretary
and
manager
with
that
we'll
go
on
to
the
next
caller
in
support.
C
O
Thank
you.
My
name
is
cameron
dyer
c-a-m-e-r-l-n-d-y-e-r
ma,
I'm
a
renault
resident,
a
beekeeper
and
a
member
of
the
northern
nevada
beekeeping
association
as
discussed
pollinators,
are
an
integral
part
of
our
environment
that
support
backyard,
gardens,
farms,
orchards
and
flowers,
indigenous
and
non-natives
honey.
Bees
are
just
one
part
of
that
complex
web.
As
a
beekeeper,
I've
taken
the
time
and
effort
to
research,
pesticides
that
either
do
not
affect
pollinators
or
if
I
do
need
to
use
a
pesticide
that
can
harm
local
pollinators.
C
C
C
P
P
We
understand
that
ab-275
will
not
prohibit
the
use
of
neonicanoid
products,
but
does
direct
the
nevada
department
of
agriculture
to
classify
neonicotinoids
as
restricted
use.
Pesticides
based
on
our
research.
There
is
no
evidence
of
any
negative
impacts
in
nevada
caused
by
the
limited
use
of
neonicanoid
products.
P
We
believe
that
the
nevada
department
of
agriculture
has
the
responsibility
of
oversight
with
the
authority
and
also
the
process
for
taking
action
to
protect
people
and
the
environment
when
there
is
a
necessity
to
designate
products
as
restricted
use.
The
federal
epa
also
has
the
ability
to
designate
restricted
uses.
P
It
seems
that
having
the
legislature
dictate
what
products
should
be
designated
as
restricted
use
sets
a
troubling
precedent.
Neonicanoids
are
very
effective
insecticide
technology
and
are
among
the
safest
pesticides
for
people,
animals
and
the
environment.
If
the
nevada
department
of
agriculture
were
to
have
a
basis
for
making
a
restricted
use.
Pesticide
for
any
pesticide
product,
the
normal
process
should
be
used
for
making
this
type
of
change
without
legislative
directives.
P
C
B
A
A
K
Thank
you,
chair
watson.
Thank
you
committee.
I
do
want
to
just
remind
you
that
you
all
should
have
received
a
handout
regarding
this
bill
as
well.
I
look
forward
to
working
with
everyone.
Cleaning
up
some
of
the
language
continue
the
conversations
I'd
also
like
to
take
a
moment
and
thank
mr
forrester
and
ms
libby
for
testifying
today,
and
thank
you
very
much
for
your
consideration.
A
F
Thank
you
chair.
I
will
now
open
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
97,
which
revises
provisions
governing
toxic
chemicals.
Please
go
ahead
when
you're,
ready
chair.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Madame
vice
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record,
I
am
howard
watts
representing
assembly
district
15
in
clark
county,
and
I
am
glad
to
present
assembly
bill
97
for
your
consideration
today,
which
addresses
certain
toxic
chemicals
that
particularly
impact
our
firefighters.
A
Unfortunately,
several
of
these
compounds
have
also
been
linked
to
serious
health
problems,
including
cancer
hormone
disruption
and
immune
suppression.
They
are
sometimes
called
forever
chemicals
because
they
do
not
easily
break
down
in
the
environment
over
time.
A
A
A
A
Four
of
the
eight
samples
were
above
the
the
advisory
level,
with
the
highest
at
21
000
nanograms
per
liter,
and
at
the
reno
air
national
guard
facility
at
the
tahoe
reno
tahoe
international
airport,
all
11
samples
were
above
safe
levels
with
the
highest
concentration
at
110
000
nanograms
per
liter.
That
is
more
than
1500
times
what
is
considered
currently
considered
to
be
a
safe
level.
A
A
Instead,
I
am
proposing
the
creation
of
a
work
group
to
assist
ndep
in
the
development
and
execution
of
their
fifas
action
plan.
Utah's
department
of
environmental
quality
has
established
a
similar
work
group,
and
I
think
this
will
really
help
flesh
it
out
and
develop
a
state-specific
strategy
to
tackle
this
issue.
A
Section
12
of
the
bill
prohibits
the
use
of
firefighting
foam
with
pfas
chemicals
from
being
used
in
training
to
minimize
firefighter
exposure,
sections
13
and
14
sought
to
phase
out
the
use
of
these
phones
entirely,
but
we're
currently
looking
at
the
alternatives
that
are
available
that
can
effectively
deal
with
these
sorts
of
high
temperature
fuel
fires.
A
So
the
conceptual
amendment
removes
those
provisions
and
instead
calls
for
the
dis
any
discharge
of
firefighting
phones
with
these
chemicals
to
be
reported
to
end
up
ensuring
that
they
have
the
information
needed
to
keep
our
water
systems
and
us
safe,
ab-97
also
deals
with
certain
fire
retardant
chemicals
called
organohalogens.
A
While
these
substances
increase
the
time
for
ignition
and
combustion
and
provide
a
critical
life-saving
window
when
fires
break
out,
they
add
to
the
toxins
in
the
smoke
that
firefighters
and
others
are
exposed
to
and
could
leach
out
of
some
consumer
products
on
their
own,
putting
our
families
at
risk.
Day-To-Day
sections,
16-26
of
the
bill,
ensure
that
children's
products,
upholstered
furniture,
textiles
and
mattresses
that
are
manufactured
or
sold
in
this
state
in
the
future
are
free
from
high
concentrations
of
these
chemicals.
A
There's
a
small
technical
change
to
section
25
in
my
proposed
amendment,
focusing
the
standards
on
state,
local
and
federal
standards
that
are
set
for
these
chemicals.
A
With
the
conceptual
amendment,
ab97
certainly
balances
the
overall
safety
of
the
community
with
reducing
the
hazards
that
our
first
responders
face.
At
the
same
time,
the
bill
looks
to
protect
all
of
us
from
the
potential
impacts
that
these
chemicals
can
have.
I
ask
for
your
support
and
with
that
I'll
stand
for
any
questions
that
members
of
the
committee
may.
B
Thank
you
vice
chair
cohen,
and
thank
you,
chair
watts,
for
bringing
forward
ab97
when
I'm
looking
at
the
conceptual
amendments,
in
particular
on
the
on
section
11,
with
the
standards
at
development
at
the
national
level.
Would
if
this
legislation
were
to
go
through
effectively,
would
that
mean
that
we
would
have
to
re-examine
the
the
language
or
does
this
also
include
the
possible
language
that
is
being
considered
at
the
federal
level
and
then
secondary
question?
B
A
A
The
department
of
defense
is
moving
towards
trying
to
remove
the
use
of
these
compounds
by
the
year
2024
again,
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
figure
out
what
suitable
alternatives
can
be
deployed
and
and
how
that
phasing
out
works,
but
that's
something
that
the
military
is
looking
to
do
to
make
sure
that
the
problem
doesn't
get
any
worse
and
then
ndep
and
epa
will
be
working
with
those
installations
to
further
evaluate
the
extent
of
contamination
and
figure
out
any
cleanup
appropriate
cleanup
plans
for
the
contamination
that
already
exists,
so
that
will
happen
regardless
of
the
outcome
of
ab-97.
A
A
You'll
see
if
you
look
in
the
fiscal
notes,
the
amount
of
work
that
would
be
involved
for
the
state
to
undertake
all
of
the
research
required
to
set
standards
independent
of
the
federal
government,
and
that's
something
that
I
I
might
be
willing
to
support
if
I
didn't
know
that
the
federal
government's
already
underway
taking
some
of
these
steps
themselves.
So
that's
that's
the
effect
of
that.
A
So
really
one
of
the
core
provisions-
and
I
I
kind
of
glossed
over
my
presentation-
is-
is
prohibiting
the
use
of
firefighting
foams
that
contain
these
chemicals
for
use
in
training
purposes
again
to
minimize
exposure
for
firefighters,
as
well
as
under
the
proposed
amendment,
to
limit
the
circumstances
in
which
they
could
be
tested
again
to
minimize
the
exposure
risk
for
folks
and
then
the
other
component
is
making
sure
that
any
discharges
are
reported
to
the
division
of
environmental
protection.
So
they
know
when
potential
additional
contamination
will
be
occurring.
M
B
Please
go
ahead.
Thank
you.
Oh
thank
you
for
that
clarification.
That
totally
makes
sense
what
all
you're
saying.
My
other
question
has
to
do
with
section
three:
the
proposed
new
language
of
subs
sub
against
section
three
sub
section:
four,
and
I'm
not
even
gonna,
try
to
try
to
explain
what
the
scientific
language
would
be
is
that
water
quality
criteria
is
that
gonna
be
consideration
also
at
the
federal
level,
or
is
that,
based
upon
other
elements
that
that
the
the
commission
will
need
to
consider.
A
Thank
you
for
that
question
of
similar
anderson
howard
watts,
for
the
record
again,
what
we
found
is
that
drinking
water
is
one
of
the
the
most
important
standards,
because
that's
that's
the
water.
A
That's
that
we're
taking
in
so
any
source
of
supply
for
our
drinking
water
needs
to
meet
high
high
standards
of
quality,
and
I
I
should
note
that
at
least
southern
nevada,
water
authority
actually
regularly
tested
supply
to
detect
and
and
the
levels
are
hard
to
detect
because
they're
so
low,
which
is,
which
is
a
good
thing
and
again
the
end
of
epa
study
found
levels
well
below
health
advisory
levels.
So
really
that's
where
we're
focusing,
and
so
once
we
have
those
standards
in
place.
A
If
we
wanted
to
at
some
point
look
at
effluent
or
surface
water
standards,
we
could
but
the
main
action
that
epa
is
taking
is
on
drinking
water
standards
and
once
they
adopt
those
those
will
apply
in
the
state
of
nevada.
F
Thank
you
and
I'm
not
seeing
any
other
questions.
So
let
me
know
if
I'm
missing
anyone,
so
I
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
in
in
section.
I
know
this
is
a
deleted
section,
but
five,
three,
a
there's
mention
of
being
protective
of
public
health,
including
without
limitation,
the
health
of
vulnerable
sub-populations
such
as
pregnant
women,
nursing
mothers,
infants
and
children.
F
So
we've
been
kind
of
focusing
on
the
firefighters,
but
do
we
do
we
know
anything
about
birth
defects
and
I'm
not
even
gonna,
try
to
pronounce
the
names
of
these
chemicals
or
is
it
just?
We
have
to
be
very
careful
when
children
are
involved.
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
question.
Vice
chair
cohen,
howard
watts
for
the
record.
Yes,
I
should
have
spoken
a
little
bit
about
how
particularly
sensitive
children
are
as
well
under
the
provisions
of
the
bill
that
are
still
largely
intact.
Dealing
with
the
fire
retardant
chemicals
you'll
see
that
we
also
specifically
tackle
children's
products
over
concerns
that
they
can
leach
out
or
or
gas
out
of
the
product
and
cause
contamination
that
way
so
for
for
chemical
or
components
that
contain
pfas.
A
A
What
I'd
say
is
that
the
work
group
that
is
being
proposed
under
the
conceptual
amendment
would
take
a
holistic
look
at
at
pfas
contamination
and
assist
the
division
in
the
development
of
that
action
plan
and
could
lead
to
additional
policy
consideration
by
this
body
in
the
future
to
make
sure
that
we're
reducing
the
exposure
to
to
vulnerable
populations.
But,
honestly,
it's
it's
an
issue
if,
for
anyone,
who's
exposed
to
it,
but
yes,
firefighters,
I
think,
face
the
highest
risk
by
far.
F
Sorry,
just
a
second,
I
do
have
a
question
about
the
the
two-thirds.
So
is
that
that's
now
gone
because
of
the
amendment.
A
Thank
you
for
the
question
vice
chair,
howard
walks
for
the
record.
I
believe
that
we
do
have
the
division
of
environmental
protection,
who
will
speak
in
neutral
about
the
bill
and
particularly
the
fiscal
note
that
they've
submitted
and
how
the
conceptual
amendment
would
impact
that
my
understanding
is
that
the
amendment
would
remove
the
two-thirds
requirement.
A
I
believe
it
was
section.
I
don't
have
the
bill
language
in
front
of
me
right
now.
There
is
a
section
that
you'll
find
that
references,
a
permitting
process
and
the
payment
of
fees,
and
that
was
for
any
facility
with
these
substances
to
be
permitted
and
for
their
management
of
the
capture
and
discharge
of
them
to
be
regulated.
So
with
the
removal
of
that
section,
I
believe
the
fiscal
note
or
the
the
two-thirds
requirement
on
the
bill
would
be
eliminated.
F
Thank
you
for
that,
and
I
think
our
our
legal
counsel
has
some
clarification.
E
Thank
you
vice
chair.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
it's
section,
11
subsection,
two
paragraph
b.
The
reason
there
was
a
two
thirds
originally
was
because
the
state
environmental
commission
was
required
to
adopt
regulations,
establishing
requirements
for
obtaining
a
certificate
of
registration
for
a
person
who
uses
these
items
and
those
requirements
would
include
without
limitation,
the
establishment
of
a
fee,
and
it
looks
in
the
proposed
amendment
that
that
requirement
to
establish
a
fee
is
being
removed.
F
Thank
you.
Do
we
have
any
other
questions
committee?
Okay,
seeing
none
chair!
Do
you
have
other
presenters.
A
I
do
not
we'll
keep
things
moving
so
with
that.
We,
if
it's
all
right
with
you,
madam
vice
chair,
we
can
move
on
to
testimony.
C
J
Good
afternoon,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record
tom
tlm,
last
name
dunn,
d-u-n-n
district,
vice
president
of
the
professional
firefighters
in
nevada-
and
we
are
here
today
in
support
of
ab-97
and
the
conceptual
amendment
to
ab-97.
Chemicals
have
been
identified
as
harmful
substances.
After
decades
of
use
and
thousands
of
everyday
items,
the
environmental
protection
agency
has
declared
pfas
to
be
a
toxic
substance,
determining
there
is
no
safe
level
of
pfas
within
the
human
body.
J
Toxic
pfas
enters
the
body
through
inhalation,
absorption
and
ingestion
and
remains
in
the
body
for
two
to
nine
years.
Following
exposure,
pfas
is
linked
to
a
growing
list
of
health
concerns,
including
thyroid
bladder,
kidney
and
liver
cancers,
diabetes
and
elevated
cholesterol,
cholesterol,
firefighters
have
experienced
long-term
occupational
exposure
to
pfos
due
to
the
use
of
aqueous
fire
fighting
foam,
a
fire
suppressant
agent
in
firefighting
and
training
exercises.
J
Pfosses
are
included
on
a
number
of
products
to
include
wall
coatings,
any
type
of
water
resistant
coating.
That's
basically
on
your
furniture
and
your
carpet
and
every
citizens
are
exposed
to
these
chemicals
as
well.
We'd
like
to
thank
assembled
men
watch
for
bringing
this
legislation
forward
and,
as
another
background,
several
states
recently
within
the
last
couple
years
to
include
california
oregon
washington,
colorado,
kentucky.
Georgia
and
pennsylvania
have
passed
similar
legislation
as
well,
and
with
that
I'll
be
able
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
Thank
you.
F
Thank
you
for
that.
Do
we
have
any
questions
for
mr
dunn,
okay,
seeing
none!
Thank
you,
mr
dunn.
I'm
not
gonna
do
that
for
everyone,
but
you
do
for
everyone
in
supporter
opposition,
but
you
do
have
a
unique
knowledge
on
this
subject.
C
O
D-A-N-I-E-L-F-I-S-C-A,
I'm
the
deputy
general
manager
of
the
clark
county
water
reclamation
district
chair
watts,
vice
chair
cohen
and
natural
resources
committee
members.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
on
ab-97
the
clark
county
water
reclamation
district
collects
and
treats
100
million
gallons
of
wastewater
per
day
and
returns
most
of
the
resulting
reclaimed
water
to
lake
mead
by
way
of
the
las
vegas
wash
in
doing
so,
we
prevent
300
tons
of
pollutants
from
reaching
the
environment
each
day.
O
O
Chair
watts
responded
with
a
proposed
conceptual
amendment
which
has
been
discussed
here
today,
which
fully
addresses
our
issues.
We
support
a
work
group
to
look
at
the
extent
of
the
pfos
problem
in
nevada
and
focusing
on
source
control
for
pfas.
Therefore,
the
position
of
the
district
on
ab-97
is
now
support.
O
Chair
watts,
we're
thankful
for
you
for
your
listening
to
our
concerns
and
making
improvements
to
ab97
and
for
your
efforts
for
clean
water
in
nevada.
Thank
you
all
for
your
time
and
your
service
to
nevada
on
the
assembly,
natural
resources
committee
you're
all
welcome
to
come
visit.
Our
facilities,
anytime.
C
M
As
a
retired
environmental
engineer,
I
can
attest
to
the
difficulties
these
chemicals
pose
in
our
environment,
and
drinking
and
wastewater
pfas
do
not
break
down
naturally,
and
the
environment
can
move
through
the
soils
contaminating
drinking
water
sources
and
they
build
up
bioaccumulate
in
fish
and
wildlife,
as
chairman
watts
stated.
They
are
therefore
called
foreign
chemicals.
These
chemicals
are
linked
to
cancer
and
developmental
and
reproductive
harm
and
have
contaminated
drinking
water
sources
across
the
country.
M
With
increasing
regularity,
studying
limits
for
these
man-made
chemicals
is
essential
to
ensure
the
water
we
drink
and
the
water
in
our
environment
is
safe
for
all
living
organisms
due
to
the
lack
of
federal
direction
and
regulation
on
these
chemicals.
Until
very
recently,
several
states
have
issued
enforceable
maximum
contaminant
levels,
while
other
states
have
established
non-non-enforceable
health
advisory
levels.
This
bill
is
the
first
step
toward
diminishing
the
input
of
these
forever
chemicals
in
the
environment
by
working
toward
establishing
effluent
limits,
or
at
least
state-specific
strategy.
M
As
stated
by
chair
watts
to
limit
harm
to
our
environment
and
health,
we
must
also
stop
all
non-essential
uses
of
pfas
and
move
to
safer
non-fluorine
alternatives
wherever
possible,
for
example,
pfas
and
carpets
and
firefighting
foams
are
not
necessary.
This
is
a
very
timely
and
important
build
that
the
sierra
club
supports,
because
it
is
imperative
that
these
harmful
chemicals
be
kept
out
of
the
environment.
M
C
G
G
C-H-R-A-S-T-I-C-A-B-R-E-R-A
and
I'm
the
policy
and
advocacy
director
for
the
nevada
conservation
league,
pfos
are
toxic,
toxic
chemicals
that
can
contaminate
water
harm
the
environment
and
are
linked
to
numerous
health
impacts,
even
in
very
low
quantities.
Pfos
do
not
break
down
in
the
natural
environment
and
can
find
their
way
into
our
soil
and
drinking
water.
They
can
also
accumulate
and
remain
in
the
environment,
wildlife
or
our
bodies
for
extended
periods
of
time
because
of
this
they're
commonly
referred
to
as
forever
chemicals.
G
Studies
have
shown
that
exposure
to
these
chemicals
can
cause
adverse
health
effects,
including
increased
risk
of
cancer,
suppressed
immune
systems,
increased
cholesterol
and
problems
in
fetal
development.
This
bill
is
a
step
in
the
right
direction
to
keep
nevadans
and
our
environment
safe
from
these
harmful
chemicals.
We'd
like
to
thank
assemblyman
watts
for
bringing
this
important
legislation
forward,
and
we
urge
your
support.
Thank
you.
C
C
F
Yeah,
thank
you.
So
we
will
move
on
to
opposition.
C
Q
Vice
chair
cohen
and
members
of
the
committee,
thank
you
for
the
record
david
cherry
spell
d-a-v-I-d-c-h-e-r-r-y
and
I'm
government
affairs
manager
for
the
city
of
henderson,
while
the
city
of
henderson
was
originally
in
opposition
to
the
bill
as
written.
We
thank
the
chair
for
bringing
the
amendment
in
response
to
the
concerns
identified
by
the
coalition
of
water
reclamation
stakeholders,
of
which
the
city
of
henderson
was
a
participant
and
with
the
adoption
of
the
amendment
the
sit,
this
will
allow
the
city
to
move
to
the
neutral
position
on
ab-97.
F
Thank
you.
Anyone
else
on
the
phone
for.
F
C
C
C
C
N
N
C
B
I
would
also
like
to
thank
the
chairman
for
working
with
us
on
the
conceptual
amendment,
especially
sections
11
through
14.,
pfos
firefighting
foam
is
used
to
quickly
and
efficiently
suppress,
vapor
and
extinguish
petroleum
and
chemical
fires.
The
conceptual
amendment
does
acknowledge
that
there
currently
is
no
other
product
on
the
market
that
performs
as
well.
B
C
B
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
nikki
bailey
lundall,
nikki,
b-a-I-l-e-y,
hyphen,
lundell
l-u-n-d-a-h-l,
I'm
here
today
representing
the
nevada
mining
association.
While
we
work
towards
finding
other
firefighting
solutions
on
our
mine
sites.
I
want
to
thank
the
build
sponsor
for
working
with
us
and
other
stakeholders
on
the
bill,
but
the
proposed
amendment,
the
nevada
mining
association,
is
in
neutral.
Thank
you.
F
C
Q
Q
The
bill,
as
introduced
did
present
a
few
concerns,
including
a
prohibition
on
the
use
of
certain
firefighting
phones
that
are
important
for
extinguishing
flammable
liquid
fires.
I
want
to
thank
assembly
member
watts
for
the
ongoing
discussion
we've
had
over
the
past
several
weeks.
The
conceptual
amendment
that
has
been
described
establishes
a
practical
process
for
addressing
epos-related
water
quality
issues
and
appropriately
prohibits
training
and
testing
of
any
peat
boss
containing
fire
fighting
foam.
Q
I
do
would
just
want
to
make
one
comment
about
reinforcing
the
distinction
between
the
firefighting
foams
intended
for
deployment
on
high
hazard
fires
and
the
flame
retardant
chemicals
used
in
specific
products
to
help
ensure
the
fire
safety
of
those
products.
They're
very
different
issues,
very
different
use
profiles
and
should
not
be
intertwined
in
the
discussion,
but
proposed
amendments.
Do
recognize
both
the
fire
safety
benefits
of
flame
retardant
chemistries
that
are
using
electronics
and
electrical
components
and
industry
innovations
to
develop
more
sustainable
fire
safety.
Q
F
Thank
you
next
person
and
in
neutral
on
the
phone.
Please.
D
D
Although
pfas
substances
have
been
widespread
use
since
the
1950s
testing
that
someone
wants
to
mention
conducted
in
2013
2015
did
not
detect
the
fast
and
nevada
drinking
water
supplies.
Many
other
states
have
had
much
more
severe
impacts
to
public
water
supplies
and
initial
testing,
but
we
recognized
that
initial
testing
was
limited.
It
was
only
a
snapshot
in
time.
It
only
tested
for
seven
of
nearly
30
fast
substances
for
which
commercial
lab
capability
now
exists.
D
Also,
the
prior
testing
only
targeted
nevada,
public
water
systems
serving
populations
over
ten
thousand
with
four
additional
smaller
systems
randomly
selected.
It's
worth
noting
that
additional
testing
under
that
federal
program
is
being
planned
for
2023
to
2025
and
that
29
pfas
compounds
will
be
tested,
although
it
has
not
been
detected.
Nevada's
public
water
systems
will
pursue
additional
federal
funding
to
assess
the
potential
threat
to
our
water
resources.
While
we
develop
communication
and
contingency
plans
in
the
event
of
an
occurrence.
D
D
Ndp
staff
currently
participate
on
an
interstate
pfast
work
group
coordinated
by
the
epa
office
of
research
and
development
liaison
to
the
pacific
southwest
region.
Ndep
will
be
tasking
professional
staff
staff
from
both
our
bureaus
of
safe
drinking
water
and
corrective
actions
to
coordinate
the
nevada
work
group
requiring
the
conceptual
amendment.
D
D
F
I
don't
see
any
questions,
sorry,
don't
see
any
questions
that
is
there
anyone
else
on
the
zoom
to
testify.
I
don't
think
so.
F
Okay,
seeing
none
share
if
you'd
like
to
make
a
closing
statement.
A
Thank
you
vice
chair
cullen,
members
of
the
committee.
Actually,
I
think
that
I've
covered
everything
so
I'll
wave.
My
closing
thank
you
for
your
time
and
consideration.
F
and
turn
the
back
over
to.
A
A
A
Thank
you
very
much
as
usual,
thanks
to
our
broadcast
production
services
for
helping
allow
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of
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Thank
you,
members
for
your
time
and
attention
today
and
thank
you
to
everyone
who
did
participate
in
today's
meeting.
Our
next
meeting
will
be
on
wednesday,
the
31st
the
last
day
of
march
at
four
o'clock
p.m,
and
with
that
this
meeting
is.