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A
B
A
Here
and
please
mark
mr
orrin
shaw
president,
as
he
arrives,
he's
presenting
in
another
committee,
so
we
have
four
members
present,
so
we
have
a
quorum
and
we'll
see
mr
vice
chair,
orrin
shaw
soon.
So
I
think
that
we
all
know
now
that
there
are
various
ways
for
us
to
join
in
this
virtual
environment.
So
if
anyone
does
not
have
any
of
that
information,
please
go
to
the
nevada
legislature
website
and
there
you
can
click
on
nellis
and
there
is
a
help
button
and
it
outlines
all
of
those
various
ways.
A
I
do
appreciate
everybody's
patience
as
we
work
through
this.
After
we
hear
the
bill,
we
will
have
support
and
opposition
and
neutral.
Please
listen
as
broadcasting
will
tell
you
when
to
unmute
how
to
unmute
and
then
at
the
very
end,
we'll
have
a
period
of
public
comment.
Remember
that
public
comment
and
test
all
testimony
is
listed
as
two
minutes
per
speaker
and
public
testimony
can
also
be
sent,
sent
in
via
email
or
given
verbally
and
remember.
A
A
Today,
we're
going
to
hear
two
bills
and
we're
going
to
start
with
senate
bill
12
and
with
that
I'll
open
up
the
hearing,
and
this
measure
requires
certain
notices
before
the
termination
of
a
restriction
relating
to
the
affordability
of
certain
housing,
we'll
build
presenters,
senator
ratty
and
others
proceed
when
you're
ready.
C
Thank
you
chair.
My
name
is
julia
ratty
and
I'm
a
senator
representing
senate
district
13.,
that's
sort
of
the
middle
of
reno
and
sparks.
If
you
will,
I
have
downtown
reno
and
downtown
sparks
plus
some
of
the
surrounding
area.
I'm
excited
to
be
here
today
in
this
particular
role
in
2019.
The
legislature
recognized
that
affordable
housing
was
a
critical
issue
and
reconstituted
the
nevada,
sorry,
the
nevada,
housing
advisory
committee
and
I
was
lucky
enough
to
be
appointed
to
that
advisory
committee
and
I'm
honored
to
be
elected.
C
The
chair,
and
so
I'm
sitting
here
before
you
today.
As
the
chair
of
the
housing
advisory
committee,
that
housing
advisory
committee
was
granted
one
bill
draft
and
the
bill
that
you
see
before
you
sb12
is
the
bill
draft
that
the
housing
advisory
committee
brought
forward,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
share
screen,
and
if
you
could
just
let
me
know
that
you
can
see
the
first
slide
fantastic.
Thank
you.
C
So
we've
done
a
lot
of
work,
talking
about
affordable
housing
and
affordable
housing
and
needing
to
build
more
build
more
and
more
units,
but
I
think
a
place
that
we
may
have
missed
the
mark.
A
little
bit
is
being
focused
on
preserving
the
affordable
housing
housing
that
we
already
have.
There's
a
wonderful
quote
here
that
the
most
cost-effective
investment
that
the
public
sector
can
make
in
ensuring
that
its
citizens
have
decent
and
affordable
is
is
assuring
that
its
citizens
have
decent
and
affordable
places
to
live.
C
Just
remembering,
of
course,
that
housing
stability
is
sort
of
the
cornerstone
for
everything
else.
If
you're
struggling
kind
of
to
maslov's
hierarchy
of
needs,
if
you're
struggling
to
maintain
housing,
then
you're,
probably
not
thriving
in
your
education
in
your
health
care
in
your
job,
many
other
aspects
of
your
life,
and
so
we
will
continue
to
focus
on
the
issue
of
affordable
housing.
So,
first
of
all,
let's
just
narrow
it
down
to
what
we're
talking
about
here
today.
C
For
today's
presentation
we
are
specifically
talking
about
subsidized
housing
that
was
developed
specifically,
so
those
individuals
with
lower
incomes
would
have
a
place
to
live.
So
when
we're
talking
about
affordable
housing,
we're
really
talking
about
the
traditional,
affordable
housing
that
has
a
subsidy
on
it.
C
We
use
some
tools
to
help
them
along
and
that
contract
then
requires
that
that
developer
maintains
the
affordability
of
that
development
for
a
certain
period
of
time,
usually
15
to
30
years
most
of
the
new
contracts
that
we're
doing
now
are
30
years
so
well.
Over
90
of
the
units
that
we
have
in
the
state
of
nevada
that
are
subsidized,
meaning
that
how
much
income
you
have
matters
and
you're
going
to
get
a
rental
rate
based
on
how
much
income
you
have
are
built
with
low
income,
housing,
tax
credits.
C
So
that's
the
first
thing
that
it's
important
to
understand
so
what's
affordable
housing
preservation,
which
is
the
focus
of
this
bill.
Well,
because
most
of
these
bills
are
built
with
a
promise
from
the
developer
to
keep
a
unit
for
affordable
for
a
fixed
ser
amount
of
time.
That
means
that
those
contracts
eventually
expire,
and
so,
if
you're
in
a
community
like
many
of
the
communities
here
in
nevada,
where
the
rate
growth
rate
is
driving
up
rent,
it
can
make
it
tempting
for
that
developer
to
flip
that
property
from
being
affordable
or
subsidized
to
market
rate.
C
So,
basically,
when
the
restrict,
when
they've
met
the
when
they
fulfilled
the
responsibilities
in
their
contract
and
they're
looking
around
at
well,
I
can
make
a
lot
more
money.
Now.
If
I
just
make
this
market
rate,
we
risk
losing
those
subsidized
units,
and
so
then
preservation
is
any
action.
That
is
taken
to
safeguard
these
subsidies,
federal
and
subsidies
that
mean
that
low-income
individuals
will
have
a
place
to
live.
C
I
think
it's
important
that
we
pause
to
say
just
how
important
of
an
issue
is.
This
nevada,
unfortunately
ranks
among
one
of
the
worst
states
in
terms
of
the
amount
of
available,
affordable
housing.
We
have
an
extreme
shortage,
so
renters
in
nevada
are
particularly
in
need,
so
44
of
households
in
nevada,
rent,
they
don't
own
their
own
place
to
live,
and
so
they
are
renters.
C
Hud
says
that
the
fair
market
rent
in
nevada
is
one
thousand
and
sixty-five
dollars,
but
I
think
anybody
who's
listening
to
this
who's
tried
to
rent
a
two-bedroom
apartment
anywhere
in
the
state.
Probably
reason
knows
that
these
numbers
lag,
the
data
is
probably
a
couple
of
years
old,
and
so,
if
you
go
down
a
little
bit
to
the
actual
average
rent
just
looking
at
january
7th
in
a
survey
on
january
7th
in
the
las
vegas
valley,
it
was
about
121
to
rent
a
two-bedroom
apartment
in
reno
sparks
gasp.
C
Fourteen
hundred
and
thirty
six
dollars
is
the
average
rent
for
a
two
bedroom
apartment.
In
order
to
be
able
to
afford
that
apartment,
you
would
need
to
in
vegas,
be
making
26.51
cents
per
hour
in
reno.
You'd
need
to
be
making
30
per
hour
to
be
able
to
afford
that.
We
know
that
the
average
renter's
wage
is
only
17.42.
C
So
what
that
means
is
in
nevada.
We
have
an
extraordinary
number
of
people
who
are
what's
known
as
cost
burden
in
the
affordable
housing
world.
We
look
at
if
you
spend
30
percent
or
more
of
your
income.
The
healthier
the
healthy
amount
to
spend
of
your
income
on
housing
is
30,
anything
more
than
30
and
then
you're,
probably
starting
to
cut
into
your
health
care
extracurricular
activities
for
your
kids.
C
Other
things
that
you're
not
doing
because
too
high
of
a
percentage
of
your
income
is
going
to
housing,
so
cost
burdened
we
consider
to
be
30
severely
cost
burdened
is
when
over
half
of
your
income
is
going
to
your
housing,
so
in
nevada,
if
you
are
extremely
low
income,
so
these
are
folks
who
are
making
30
or
less
of
the
area
min
area
median
income.
So
this
is
probably
going
to
be
a
senior
on
a
fixed
income.
C
C
Maybe
you
had
a
little
bit
better
job
so
now,
you're
on
a
fixed
income
retirement
as
a
senior
but
you're
making
a
little
bit
more
money,
or
perhaps
you
have
a
lower
wage
job
working
in
the
state
of
nevada
of
those
folks.
87
of
them
are
paying
more
than
30
percent
of
their
income
to
to
have
a
place
to
live
and
43
closing
in
on
half
of
them
are
paying
half
of
their
income
just
to
have
a
place
to
live.
C
Almost
a
third
of
those
folks
are
paying
more
than
30
of
their
income
to
affordable
housing.
What
happens
is
the
folks
at
the
81,
100
and
51
to
80
are
competing
with
the
extremely
low
income
and
very
low
income
for
units,
and
the
truth
of
the
matter
is
people
who
are
low.
Income
just
can't
compete
and
they
end
up
at
risk
of
homelessness,
sleeping
on
a
neighbor's
couch,
whatever
they
can
do
to
stay
housed.
C
C
That
means
that
9
82
out
of
every
100
people
are
out
there
trying
to
find
housing
in
the
mark
competing
in
the
market.
If
you're
50
area
median
or
below,
we
only
have
40
of
the
100
units
that
we
need,
so
the
other
60
folks
are
out
there
competing
in
the
market.
I
think
you
get
the
idea.
Nevada
just
flat
out,
doesn't
have
enough
units.
C
So
we
put
a
lot
of
time
and
attention
into
building
more
units,
so
this
is.
We
spent
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
low
income,
housing
tax
credits
last
session,
so
we
get
this
allocation
from
the
federal
government.
We're
able
to
use
that
allocation
to
incentivize
developers
to
build
units.
They
build
those
units
with
a
contract
for
about
30
years,
and
we
keep
trying
to
put
more
and
more
units
into
the
market,
but
I'll
just
take
you
across
the
top
line.
So
in
2011
592
units
were
built.
C
We
used
the
same
low
income,
housing
tax,
credit
tools
and
some
other
tools
that
we
have
in
the
toolkits
to
do
renovation.
If
we
do
a
renovation
of
an
existing,
affordable
housing
project,
it
adds
more
years
to
the
timeline
that
it
has
to
be
affordable,
and
so,
in
this
particular
year
we
renovated
163
of
our
existing
units,
which
was
great.
That
meant
that
755
units
were
shiny
and
new
and
ready
for
somebody
who
was
low
income
to
live
in
them.
C
C
2012
was
a
particularly
bad
year
because
we
didn't
build
a
whole
lot
of
new
units
and
we
lost
quite
a
few
that
expired
and
if
you
get
to
2020
we're
getting
better
and
better
building
more
and
more
units,
you
can
see
that
average
from
2016
to
2020
we've
been
trying
to
push
out
more
and
more
units.
So
we're
now
up
to
almost
900
units
that
we
build
in
a
given
year,
we're
renovating
780
to
keep
those
in
the
market,
but
because
we
lost
579
to
contract
expirations.
C
That
really
only
meant
that
319
new
units
were
put
into
the
stock.
So
hopefully
we're
painting
a
picture
here
that
losing
the
existing
inventory
is
weighing
us
down.
We
can
build
all
the
new
units
in
the
world,
but
if
we
can't
keep
the
ones
that
we've
already
got
we're
not
making
any
progress.
We're
kind
of
like
that
hamster
on
the
hamster
wheel,
we're
not
making
enough
progress,
we're
making
a
little
bit
of
progress,
but
not
enough
progress.
C
C
C
So
with
that,
knowing
that
we
are
at
risk
of
you
losing
7
500,
affordable
units,
when
we
only
build
about
800
900
a
year
over
the
next
five
years,
I
want
to
turn
it
over
to
bill.
Brewer
bill
is
also
a
member
of
the
housing
advisory
committee.
With
me
he
is
the
executive
director
of
the
nevada,
rural
housing
authority
and
he's
going
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
why
housing
preservation
is
an
important
strategy.
D
D
Senator
raddy
has
explained
very
well
what
the
challenges
are
that
we
face
with
our
affordable
housing
stock
in
nevada.
We
only
have
so
many
tools
that
we
can
use
to
preserve
housing
if
you'll
roll
to
the
next
slide.
Please,
the
low-income
housing
tax
credit,
of
course,
is
the
primary
tool
that's
used
in
in
building
and
preserving
affordable
units
in
nevada.
D
That
tool
is
coupled
with
some
other
funding
resources
oftentimes
to
produce
units,
but
most
of
these
units
have
low
income
housing
tax
credits
in
them
home
investments.
Partnership
program
is
a
grant
fund.
That's
provided
through
the
federal
government
to
the
state.
We
get
some
money
in
that
each
year,
but
it's
not
nearly
enough
to
produce
many
units.
In
fact,
it's
primarily
used
as
a
gap
filler
to
help
projects
get
off
the
ground
and
the
same
with
our
state
housing
trust
fund
as
vital
as
these
funding
sources
are.
D
They
are
not
substantial,
and
so
they
help
fill
gaps
and
and
they're
very
important,
but
they're,
not
big
sources
of
money,
and
so
you
can
see
from
senator
ratty's
presentation.
They
don't
produce
a
tremendous
amount
of
units.
Are
there
other
states
in
the
country
that
are
preserving
their
units?
Absolutely
we've
listed
a
few
here,
some
red
some
blue.
D
These
laws
are
just
good
practice
to
preserve
the
investment
that
the
taxpayers
have
already
made
into
these
units
and
to
keep
them
as
affordable
for
the
people
who
live
there.
What's
this
bill
going
to
do,
and
what's
it
not
going
to
do,
this
is
important
to
consider.
First
of
all,
it
will
provide
adequate
time
so
that
we
can
collaborate
and
figure
out
how
we
can
perhaps
retain
and
rehabilitate
these
units
and
keep
them
affordable
through
the
existing
owner
or
through
a
new
purchaser.
D
It
will
support
the
nevada,
affordable
housing,
supply
and
availability
to
those
people
who
really
do
need
it.
It
gives
us
12
months
for
those
tenants
to
if
the
housing
project
is
really
going
offline
and
and
will
not
be
affordable
any
longer.
It
gives
those
tenants
at
least
a
good
amount
of
time,
to
find
additional
housing
and
to
to
get
moved
to
someplace
else,
which
is
really
critical.
D
What
this
bill
will
not
do
this
bill
will
not
impact
the
budget
has
no
fiscal
impact
at
all.
It
will
not
affect
homeowners,
it
applies
only
to
rental
properties
and
in
fact
it
only
applies
to
those
multi-family
properties
which
have
been
built
using
the
financing
tools
I
spoke
of
earlier
that
will
not
affect
privately
funded
multi-family
properties.
D
It
does
not
provide
additional
funding
for
preservation.
It
seeks
only
to
preserve
that
funding.
We've
already
invested.
It
does
not
mandate
that
the
local
governments
need
to
do
anything
different
or
in
addition,
no
mandate
there
at
all.
It
does
not
force
an
owner
to
offer
rental
subsidies
or
to
relocate
tenants
when
those
affordability
restrictions
have
expired,
nor
does
it
remove
any
property
rights
for
that
property
owner.
E
next
slide.
Please
section
two
lists
the
definitions
applicable
to
the
affordability
of
housing,
and
here
I
would
really
like
to
focus
in
on
one
definition
as
it's
key
to
understanding
what
we
are
trying
to
accomplish
here
and
that
is
the
qualified
contract
indicated
in
number
five.
E
It
also
allows
for
a
property
to
leave
affordability
before
the
prescribed,
30-year
affordability
period
allows
the
division
a
year
time
frame
to
locate
a
purchaser
at
that
inflated
price,
and
once
the
contract
is
obtained,
the
existing
residents
have
a
three-year
period
of
affordability
before
those
restrictions
are
removed.
E
To
better
understand
this
and
its
relation
to
the
bill,
I'd
like
to
go
over
the
high
level
timeliness
or
timelines
related
to
affordability,
and,
as
I
walk
you
through
this,
I
want
you
to
kind
of
envision
two
buckets
of
15
years,
so
starting
at
the
top,
the
two
blue
boxes
represent
the
first
15
years
in
which
everything
kind
of
runs
together.
At
the
same
time,
everybody
goes
through
this
process
at
year.
E
15
the
project
is
eligible
for
the
qualified
contract
process,
and
here
it
is
it
kind
of
bifurcates
into
potentially
expiration
and
then
termination,
so
we're
going
to
look
at
expiration
first,
and
this
is
represents
the
fulfillment
of
the
30-year
obligation
and
is
indicated
by
the
green
arrows
going
to
the
right.
The
qc
process
is
eligible
anytime.
During
this
second
15-year
period,
it
doesn't
just
occur
at
year,
15..
E
E
Now
we'll
focus
on
termination
and
that's
the
represents
oh
stay
there.
It
represents
the
abandonment
of
affordability
before
the
30-year
timeline
is
completed
and
is
indicated
by
the
red
arrows
to
the
left.
E
So
should
an
owner
exercise
that
qc
option
the
division
is
notified
by
the
owner
and
the
onus
is
on
the
division,
as
we
have
one
year
to
locate
a
purchaser
most
times.
This
is
really
really
difficult
due
to
the
difference
between
the
irs,
determined
price
and
the
actual
market
rate
value
of
the
property.
E
E
E
Three
and
section
three
provides
the
requirements
when
an
owner
is
going
to
exercise
their
termination
rights
so
and
going
back
to
that
timeline.
That's
the
path
indicated
with
the
red
arrows
when
an
owner
submits
a
request
to
obtain
a
qualified
contract
for
a
property
to
the
division.
They
must
also
provide
written
notice
to
the
local
jurisdictions
and
each
tenant
of
the
property.
E
Many
of
our
partners,
particularly
our
mission-driven
and
non-profit
developers,
for
various
reasons,
may
continue
to
the
extent
that
they
possibly
can
the
affordability
restrictions
on
the
property.
Here.
The
notification
requirements
are
very
similar
to
those
that
have
been
discussed
in
section
four
and
because
they
are
doing
this
voluntarily.
Both
the
division
and
the
affordable
housing
community
are
interested
in
making
sure
the
tenants
are
notified.
E
It
requires
the
notification
of
local
governments
to
include
details
about
the
property,
the
expiration
of
the
affordability,
restrictions
and
contact
information
of
the
owner
to
the
tenants.
It
describes
the
timeline,
the
protections
that
they
have:
a
description
of
housing
resources
and
again
the
contact
information
of
the
owners.
E
E
Two
notes
I'd
like
to
make
here:
the
division
intends
to
work
with
our
partners
in
the
adoption
of
regulations
for
the
administrative
fines,
as
ten
thousand
dollars
would
seem
a
bit
excessive
for
someone
who
inadvertently
misses
the
notification
time
frames
and
might
be
their
first
offense.
E
E
C
C
One
is
that
you
could
be
in
a
property
that
was
built
before
five
years
ago.
That
has
a
30-year
restriction
on
it
for
affordability,
but
doesn't
have
a
protection
from
that
developer
using
a
federal
tool.
This
is
a
federal
tool
called
a
qualified
contract
to
terminate
that
affordability,
that's
one!
You
could
be
in
a
property
like
that,
in
that
case,
there's
a
process
where
the
division
is
going
to
get
notification,
but
maybe
tenants
will
or
won't
there's
a
three-year
process
to
for
that
project
to
be
able
to
return
to
market
rate.
C
I
want
to
just
start
something
that
director
a
pros
said
there
for
the
past
five
years:
we're
not
allowing
that
to
happen
anymore
on
any
new
projects,
because,
through
the
contracting
process
we've
said
you
have
to
waive
your
right
to
be
able
to
terminate
your
contract,
so
we
fixed
that
for
any
property.
That's
been
built
in
the
last
five
years,
but
we
can't
go
retroactively
back
to
all
those
projects
that
were
built
15
years
ago
to
be
able
to
fix
it
there.
C
So
there's
a
whole
lot
of
units
out
there,
where,
if
a
developer
chooses
to
exercise
this
qualified
contract
option,
they
could
be
losing
terminating
and
losing
affordability
early.
So
that's
one
group
of
properties
there's
a
second
group
of
properties
that
are
not
choosing
to
terminate
and
they
are
allowing
their
project
to
go
for
the
full
30
years
and
then
at
the
30th
year
that
property
expires.
C
C
In
both
those
cases,
we
want
a
year's
notice
and
we
want
the
ability
for
local
governments
advocates
the
housing
division
to
lean
in
and
see
if
we
can
save
those
properties,
there's
nothing
that
we
can
force
that
owner
to
do.
But
in
many
cases,
if
we
know
about
it
and
we
have
the
opportunity,
we
can
offer
additional
tools
to
keep
it
affordable
or
in
some
cases
we
can
organize
a
sale
to
an
affordable
developer.
Who
wants
to
keep
those
units
affordable?
C
But
we
are
asking
them
to
give
us
the
notice
so
that
we
can
a
notify
the
tenants,
because
again,
if
there's
only
18
units
for
every
100,
that
we
need
in
the
extremely
low
income
and
only
40
for
every
100
that
we
need
in
the
low
income.
It's
very
hard
for
these
individuals
to
find
housing
once
they're
once
they
lose
those
affordable
units.
C
So
we're
still
looking
that
even
for
those
good
actors,
even
when
they're
already
past
the
restrictions
in
their
contract,
that
they
give
us
12
months
notice,
so
that
the
tenants
know
what
they're
up
against
and
we
still
have
an
opportunity
to
save
it.
So
that,
in
summary,
is
what
the
bill
does.
We
know
that
it
is
wonky
housing
policy,
and
that
is
why
you
have
the
director
of
the
housing
division
here.
To
answer
any
questions.
Should
you
have
detailed
questions.
A
C
A
Okay,
perfect.
Thank
you
very
much
committee
questions.
G
Thank
you
chair.
I
had
questions
to
mr
a
croft.
E
E
It
is
a
recommended
practice
from
the
national
council
of
state
housing
agencies
that
you
do
this
notification
and
that
you
basically
prescribe
that
if
you're
going
to
issue
tax
credits
that
the
developers
waive
the
ability
to
exit
through
the
qc.
So
I'm
hoping
that
answered
your
question.
C
And
I'll
go
ahead
and
add
on
to
that,
can
I
click?
This?
Is
julia
ready
through
you,
two
senator
neil?
We
did
work
with
lcb
legal
because
we
did
understand
that
we're
dealing
with
existing
contracts
to
see
if
there
was
anything
that
we
were
doing.
That
would
abrogate
the
existing
contracts
and
the
answer
that
we
got
back
was
that
we
were
f.
We
were
staying
within
a
safe
space.
G
Yeah,
so
so
so,
basically
you're
saying
as
long
as
you're,
I
guess
waving
a
criteria
or
you're
in
this
period,
where
it's
going
to
expire,
that
it's
okay,
to
insert
a
new
term
is
that.
Is
that
what
I'm
understanding.
H
A
Thank
you,
senator
okacia.
I
I'm
thank
you,
madam
chair
mine's,
a
lot
simpler
than
what
miss
neil
had,
but
I'm
just
concerned
that,
looking
at
your
numbers
in
the
presentation
you
showed
about
7,
500
of
them
would.
D
I
D
C
Thank
you,
senator
yeah.
We
recognize
that's
why
we
highlighted
it
in
this
slide
that
not
every
sorry
senator
ready
for
the
record,
not
every
unit
is
salvageable,
but
we
do
think
in
that
situation.
It's
still
critically
important
that
those
tenants
get
the
12
months
notice
so
that
they
have
time
to
start
making
plans
or
what
their
next
step
might
be,
because
when
that
12
month
comes
up,
that
developer
can
still
flip
that
to
market
rate
and
and
can
be
charging
even
more
money
for
a
unit.
That's
probably
not
very
desirable.
I
C
Senator
chair,
madam
chair
to
you,
through
you
too
senator
gogucci.
I
don't
mean
to
be
flippant,
but
they
could
probably
still
charge
1400
a
month
for
it
in
reno,
because
the
supply
and
demand
is
so
challenging.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
actually
have
a
bunch
one
one
is
I
don't
know
I
got
I'm
uncomfortable
calling
people
bad
actors
who
are
actually
fulfilling
the
terms
of
the
contract.
Okay,
just
that
terminology
disturbed
me
after
30
years
of
doing
it
have
a
contract
saying
they
can
then
open
it
up
to
the
market
and
somehow
they're
bad
actors
for
doing
that.
May
I
answer
that
question.
Oh,
it's
not!
It's
not
an
early
question,
it's
more
like
just
a
statement.
J
C
Manager,
two
youth
through
you
to
senator
hanson.
You
can
just
go
straight.
Thank
you
because
apparently,
I've
forgotten
how
to
do
this
senator
ready
for
the
record.
So,
first
of
all,
I
didn't
want
to
address
the
bad
actor
comment:
we're
not
calling
anybody
bad
actors.
What
we
are
calling
folks
is
good
actors.
So
there
is
a
group
of
developers
that,
once
they
have
they've
gotten
past
their
30
30
year
contract
restriction,
they
still
keep
it
affordable.
C
E
Steve
across
for
the
record
effectively
senator
hansen
right
now,
they
would
come
to
us
indicate
that
they
want
to
go
through
the
qualified
contract
process.
That's
what
starts
the
year
clock
to
find
somebody
to
purchase
that
particular
property.
J
I
mean
so
so
right
now
they
also
have
a
one-year
window
that
they
have
to,
and
the
only
thing
that's
changing
in
this
lobby
is
that
if
they
don't
do
it
in
that
one-year
window,
you're
gonna
find
them
up
to
ten
thousand
bucks.
No,
no!
Okay!
Well,
then,
I'm
confused
you
what
right
now
I
am.
I
hit
my
13-year
window.
I
then
have
how
much
time
legally
to
notify
you
that
by
the
15th
year,
I'm
going
to
switch
to
a
market-based
system.
E
So
steve
across
for
the
record
you
have
one
year
in
that
process,.
J
C
So
if
I
may,
this
is
senator
rowdy
for
the
record
on
a
termination
in
the
current
law.
They
have
one
year
to
execute
that
contract
and
they
only
are
required
to
notify
the
housing
division.
It's
unclear
whether
or
not
the
housing
division
can
let
local
governments,
housing
authorities,
others
who
might
be
interested
in
approaching
that
developer,
to
see
if
we
can
extend
the
affordability.
C
C
That's
only
on
the
termination
portion
right
now,
if
you're
hitting
the
30-year
mark,
so
you
haven't
chosen
to
do
the
qualified
contract
and
you're
going
for
the
full
30
years.
There's
no
notification
requirement
and
if
you're,
one
of
the
I'll
call
them
great
players
for
lack
of
a
to
not
make
a
contrast
and
it's
just
affordable
forever.
You
don't
have
to
tell
anybody
anything,
and
so
really.
J
Okay,
thank
you.
I
was
confused
on
a
bunch
of
that.
I
will
say
I
think
senator
neil's
point
is
really
one
that
initially
I
was
really
concerned
about
too,
and
that
is
the
kind
of
the
concept
of
an
impairment
of
contract.
So,
but
if
lcb
says
that
this,
you
know
this
passes
the
smell
test.
Well,
so
be
it,
but
it
still
seems
like
you're
changing
the
rules
kind
of
midstream
on
some
of
these
folks
so
anyway.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
Thank
you
very
much
additional
questions
from
anybody
on
the
committee,
so
senator
brady.
Can
we
just
tab
because
somebody
sent
me
this
question:
can
we
just
confirm
whether
this
does
or
does
not
have
anything
to
do
with
section
8
housing.
C
So
that's
a
complicated,
senator
ratty
for
the
record.
So
that's
a
little
bit
of
a
complicated
question.
So
let
me
try
to
answer
it
this
way
and
then
I'm
going
to
ask
division
director
across
to
bail
me
out.
If
I
don't
get
this
quite
right,
so
section
8
has
multiple
programs.
C
So
often
the
most
well-known
program
is
the
there's
two
ways
that
we
accomplish.
Affordability.
One
way
is
to
build
affordable
projects
and
put
people
in
an
affordable
unit
that
has
the
subsidy
right.
The
other
way
is
to
buy
down
the
rent
for
people
in
a
market
rate.
So
that's
the
hud
section,
8
voucher
program,
and
so
with
that
voucher
program,
a
housing
authority
issues
a
voucher
to
an
individual,
they
go
out
and
they
find
an
apartment
on
the
market
and
then
that
voucher
helps
them
buy
down
the
rent.
C
C
E
Add
you
nailed
it.
You
got
a
little
little
straight
section.
8
funding
is
not
actually
used
in
the
construction
of
the
project,
but
it
is
used
to
potentially
help
some
occupants
of
that
particular
development.
C
Yeah
so,
for
example,
I
have
a
constituent
who's
living
in
an
affordable
unit.
The
affordability
was
bought
down
with
the
low
income,
housing,
tax
credits
and
then
another
section,
eight
waiver
is
coming
down
and
it
is
buying
down
the
rent
because
he's
extremely
low
income,
so
he's
been
he's
in
an
affordable
unit.
That's
getting
bought
down
even
more
at
section
8
because
he
lives
on
865
a
month.
A
I
I
yeah,
and
I
believe
that
that's
probably
where
this
question
was
going-
was
the
voucher
piece
and
having
to
identify
a
house
that
or
houses
housing
that
you
have
to
be
a
section
8.,
so
I
suspect
that's
where
it
was
going,
not
the
other
way.
So
thank
you
for
that.
If
we
have
further
questions,
we'll
ask
any
other
additional
questions.
Senator
neal,
you
look
like
you,
have
a
thought:
nope.
Okay,
all
right!
Well,
we
don't
appear
to
have
any
additional
questions
so
with
that
senator
ratty.
H
K
Good
afternoon,
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
nick
vanderpool
n-I-c-k
v-a-n-d-e-r-p-o-e-l
with
capital
partners
today
representing
the
nevada
rural
housing
authority
in
support
of
senate
bill
12.
as
presented
senate
bill
12,
provides
additional
tools
in
the
toolbox
to
help
address,
affordable
housing
in
nevada.
The
nevada
rural
housing
authority
wants
to
thank
senator
ratty
for
her
continued
mission
and
leadership
in
helping
this
critical
topic
in
the
silver
state.
Thank
you
to
her
and
all
the
stakeholders
involved
in
the
opportunity
of
crafting
senate
bill
12,
and
we
urge
your
support.
H
F
H-A-M-E-R-N-I-K
good
afternoon
chairwoman
and
distinguished
members
of
the
committee,
I'm
audrey
hammernick,
the
president
and
ceo
of
nevada
hand
nevada
hand
is
the
state's
largest
nonprofit,
affordable
housing
developer
and
we
operate
over
34
communities
in
southern
nevada
that
help
over
7
900
residents,
which
include
working
families
and
seniors
on
fixed
incomes.
Each
year,
I'd
like
to
thank
senator
ratty
for
her
advocacy
and
hard
work
on
senate
bill
12
and
the
other
committee
members
of
the
advisory
committee
on
housing.
F
I'm
proud
to
sit
on
that
committee
and
we
want
to
recognize
that
affordable
housing
is
a
key
component
of
our
community
and
we're
happy
to
provide
guidance
on
best
practices.
The
vatican
supports
senate
bill
12,
as
amended,
which
provides
residents
with
sufficient
and
proper
notice
if
their
home
will
no
longer
be
subject
to
affordability
standards.
Like
many
other,
affordable
housing
developers,
we
rely
on
federal,
low-income
housing,
tax
credits
and
other
governmental
programs
to
finance
our
product.
F
Our
projects
and
our
mission
as
a
nonprofit
developer
is
dedicated
to
providing
affordable
housing
even
after
those
affil,
affordable,
housing.
Pardon
me,
affordable
housing
terms,
expire,
so
senate
bill
12,
proactively,
engages
with
owners
to
preserve,
affordable
housing,
and
we
are
in
support
of
the
bill.
Thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
speak.
A
H
H
H
H
H
K
Begin
hello,
hello:
this
is
eileen
p
cars
p-I-e-k-a-r-z,
I'm
with
rural
community
assistance.
Corporation
rcac
is
a
non-profit
organization
with
staff
based
in
fallon,
fernley,
reno
and
las
vegas.
We
work
to
provide
assistance,
technical
assistance
and
training
on
affordable
housing,
water
and
wastewater
systems
and
economic
development
in
rural
communities.
K
We
have
experience
working
with
rural
communities
to
assemble
that
package
of
financing
to
preserve
affordability
of
existing
rental
properties.
We
know
it
can
be
successful,
but
we
also
know
it
takes
time
and
the
notice
requirements
in
sb12
can
facilitate
this
outcome.
So
we
encourage
your
support
and
thank
you
for
your
time.
H
H
H
K
Sb12
will
help
discourage
failing
to
provide
adequate
notices
regarding
termination
of
affordability,
restrictions
to
tenants
who
are
low
income
financially
vulnerable
or
financially
distressed.
This
legislation
allows
tenants
to
financially
prepare
for
possible
changes
in
their
living
situations,
such
as
those
tenants
participating
in
the
city-sponsored
home
program.
K
Affordable
housing
is
an
ongoing
issue
within
the
city
of
las
vegas
and
our
office
of
community
services
works
hard
to
help
prevent
members
of
our
community
from
experiencing
homelessness
in
southern
nevada.
Sb12
is
an
important
step
to
help
maintain
affordable
units
within
the
region.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
your.
H
H
H
I
Good
afternoon,
chair
don
darrell
loop
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record,
david
cherry,
spelled
d-a-v-I-d
c-h-e-r-r-y
and
I'm
government
affairs
manager
for
the
city
of
henderson.
The
city
of
henderson
supports
sb12,
and
we
appreciate
the
bill
sponsor
for
bringing
forward
this
important
legislation
which
will
assist
in
our
efforts
to
maintain
a
supply
of
affordable
housing
to
serve
the
needs
of
our
community.
I
The
notification
mechanism
in
the
bill
will
provide
advanced
warning
regarding
the
potential
loss
of
affordable
housing
units
providing
critical
time
for
municipalities
and
the
partners
they
work
with,
to
assess
available
options
and
to
mitigate
any
negative
effects
that
such
a
change
may
have
on
residents
who
rely
on
this
housing.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
express
support
for
this
valuable
bill.
H
K
Begin
good
afternoon,
my
name
is
emily:
paulson
spelled
e-m-I-l-y
p-a-u-l-s-e-n
and
I
serve
as
the
executive
director
of
the
nevada
homeless
alliance.
We
urge
you
to
support
sb12.
The
availability
of
affordable
housing
is
key
to
addressing
homelessness,
and
this
bill
will
add
an
important
tool
to
our
state's
affordable
housing
toolbox.
Thank.
H
L
Thank
you
good
afternoon,
madam
chair
joanna,
jacob
j,
o
a
a
government
affairs
manager
for
clark
county.
We
wanted
to
testify,
in
support
of
this
bill
the
longer
notice
period
that
is
provided
in
this
bill
to
local
governments
and
to
clark
county
as
the
regional
service
provider
will
give
us
time
critical
time
to
work
with
our
community
partners
to
work
on
preserving
affordable
housing
in
our
community,
which
is
a
priority
for
clark
county,
so
wanted
to
register
our
support
for
all
the
reasons
that
you've
heard.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
H
H
K
Hi,
this
is
christine
hess
c-h-r-I-s-t-I-n-e
h-e-s-s,
and
I
am
the
executive
director
for
the
nevada
housing
coalition.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
express
our
strong
support
of
sb12.
Today,
the
nevada
housing
coalition
is
a
statewide
nonprofit
established
to
advance
affordable
housing
for
all
nevadans.
With
about
a
hundred
members
representing
the
public
and
private
sectors.
Urban
and
rural
across
nevada,
affordable
housing
is
a
complex
issue
that
impacts
more
than
just
the
ability
of
nevadans
to
have
safe
shelter
the
rent
eats
first.
K
This
means
that
when
nevadans
do
not
have
housing
available
that
is
affordable,
although
they
may
still
have
a
roof
over
their
heads,
they
are
unable
to
pay
for
the
basics
like
food
and
health
care,
and
they
also
have
limited
capacity
to
take
advantage
of
workforce
development
and
education
opportunities
to
advance
themselves.
As
our
economy
diversifies
they're
coming
from
a
place
of
crisis,
they
are
housing.
Insecure
sp-12
is
a
critical,
proactive
solution
to
supporting.
K
K
We
simply
cannot
recover
from
the
types
of
loss
of
7,
500
high-risk
units
over
five
years,
we're
already
in
a
deficit
sb12
supports
our
ability
to
preserve
these
units
at
high
risk.
I
want
to
thank
the
nevada
housing
advisory
committee,
including
senator
roddy
bill
brewer
and
steve
croft,
for
their
leadership
and
stewardship
of
this
bill.
It's
practical
in
implementation,
not
overly
burdensome
and
yet
respectful
of
our
existing
public
investment
without
a
housing
coalition
would
also
like
to
emphasize
our
commitment
to
the
successful
through
our
strategic
priorities,
of
advocacy,
education
and
collaboration.
H
I
Jared
luke
j,
a
r
e
d
k
government
affairs
director
for
the
city
of
north
las
vegas.
I
want
to
just
echo
all
of
the
previous
comments
and
support
of
sb12
and
add
the
city
of
north
las
vegas
support
to
this
bill.
This
is
good
legislation,
it's
good
legislation
for
the
residents
of
north
las
vegas
and
for
the
residents
of
the
state
in
general.
I
I
just
want
to
add
one
thing
that
I
agree
with
a
comment
made
earlier
about
maslow's
hierarchy
of
needs.
It's
important
that
we
identify
what
those
needs
are
and
help
these
folks
that
that
are
in
situations
where
they
need
to
take
advantage
of
affordable
housing
to
be
able
to
have
a
home
meet
those
basic
needs
so
that
we
can.
I
We
can
look
forward
to
a
new
future
and
those
folks
can
can
reach
out
and
look
for
new
employment
as
we
expand
our
our
economy,
but
without
all
that,
if
they're
worried
about
the
basic
needs
of
where
they're
going
to
live
and
a
roof
over
their
head,
it's
impossible
for
people
to
reach
out
and
succeed
in
life.
Thank
you
for
the
time.
H
K
As
a
member
of
the
advisory
committee
on
housing,
we
at
csh
a
national
nonprofit
organization,
support
this
bill
for
preservation
to
preserve
the
units
and
nevada
that
ensure
that
we
have
the
the
units
that
are
necessary,
especially
for
those
that
are
extremely
low
income
and
our
households
that
are
in
need
of
this
crisis,
and
we
stand
in
support
of
this
great
legislation
and
ask
for
your
support.
Thank
you.
So
much.
H
F
Chair
dunder
lupine
members
of
the
committee,
thank
you
so
much
for
the
opportunity
to
provide
comments
today
on
this
bill.
This
is
cali
wilsey.
On
behalf
of
the
city
of
reno,
my
name
is
c-a-l-l-I
w-I-l-s's
and
sam
e
y
city
arena
wanted
to
offer
their
support
to
senate
bill
12.
For
the
various
reasons
discussed
by
other
commenters
today.
F
L
F
F
Excuse
me,
this
is
your
renowned
offers
and
thanks
for
the
the
opportunity
to
weigh
in
today.
H
H
I
Madam
chair
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
eric
novak
e-r-I-c-n-o-v-a-k,
I'm
president
praxis
consulting
group
which
provides
development,
finance
assistance
for
affordable
housing
developments
in
nevada,
I'm
speaking
in
strong
support
of
senate
bill
12,
which
we
believe
is
a
great
first
step
towards
the
preservation
of
our
valuable,
affordable
housing
stock
in
nevada.
It
takes
several
years
and
lots
of
public
subsidy
to
plan
and
construct
new,
affordable
properties.
I
I
The
notification
provisions
in
sp
12
will
give
the
nevada
housing
division
and
local
governments
advance
notice
of
properties
exiting
the
affordable
housing
program.
It
will
buy
us
some
time
to
connect
properties
for
sale
with
good,
affordable
housing
stewards
and
to
assemble
the
resources
to
preserve
some
of
these
developments.
I
Two
years
ago,
we
lost
500
units
in
downtown
reno
at
courtyard
center
and
city
center
to
the
qualified
contract
process.
By
the
time
the
city
of
reno
learned
of
this
sale,
it
was
too
late
to
act
with
sb12.
The
owner
would
have
been
required
to
notify
the
city
in
advance
of
opting
out
of
the
affordability
restrictions.
I
I
want
to
thank
the
advisory
committee
on
housing
and
its
chair,
senator
rowdy,
for
their
extraordinary
work
on
this
bill,
as
well
as
the
working
group
that
has
made
a
number
of
suggestions
for
improving
the
original
language.
I
did
want
to
make
one
suggestion
for
improving
the
effectiveness
of
the
bill.
I
A
lot
of
projects
with
100
percent
loan
housing
tax
credits
have
a
small
number
of
units
with
home
funds,
restrictions
that
have
a
longer
expiration
date.
This
change
would
ensure
that
the
notification
occurs
when
the
tax
credits
expire
and
not
the
home
funds,
which
are
often
a
token
number
of
units
in
the
transaction
and
would
provide
broader
protection.
A
Mr
mr
novak,
well,
you
would
can
I
just
please
suggest
that
you
you're
at
your
two-minute
time
limit
and
if
you
could
please
contact
the
sponsor
of
the
bill
and
see
if
she
would
be
interested
in
an
amendment.
A
H
A
C
Thank
you
chair.
I
will
keep
it
brief.
I
would
just
like
to
say
that
I
I
believe
that
we've
struck
a
balance
here
again.
The
bill
does
not
abrogate
anybody's
property
rights.
If,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
they
reach
that
period
of
termination
or
expiration
and
they
choose
to
sell
the
property
or
return
it
to
market
rate,
they
can
still
do
that.
C
We
think
it's
a
small
ask
to
ask
for
12
months
notice,
we've
seen
in
other
states
where
developments
have
been
saved,
because
if
you
can
get
to
that
developer
with
the
tools
to
keep
it
affordable
or
if
they
want
to
sale,
sell
some
often
they
will
sell
to
somebody
else
who
will
keep
it
affordable
that
we
can
save
some
of
these
units,
not
all
of
them.
So
again,
I
hope
I
again.
It's
julia
ready
senate
district
13
asking
for
your
support
on
senate
bill
12.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
that
and
with
that
I
will
close
the
hearing
on
senate
bill
12..
We
will
open
the
hearing
on
senate
bill
150..
This
measure
makes
changes
to
provisions
related
to
housing,
also,
I'm
hoping
that
senator
harris
is
with
us
as
she
was
also
on
another
committee.
So
when
she's
ready
perfect,
thank
you
well,
I
invite
you
and
whoever
you
have
with
you
to
go
ahead
and
proceed
when
you're
ready.
Thank
you.
M
I
hope
the
members
have
had
a
chance
to
review
the
conceptual
amendment,
as
that
is
how
I
will
be
walking
through
the
bill
today.
I
have
with
me
matt
walker
of
greenberg
traurig,
to
answer
any
detailed
questions
about
zoning
and
I'll
be
available,
of
course,
to
answer
any
questions
as
well
so
senate
bill
150
has
one
goal,
that
is,
to
require
localities
to
find
a
place
to
put
tiny
homes.
So
in
some
parts
of
nevada
there
is
no
place
where
you
can
put
a
tiny
home.
M
I
very
well
acknowledge
that
us
at
the
state
level
are
not
the
zoning
experts,
and
so
my
goal
with
this
bill
is
to
push
that
decision
making
down
to
the
local
level
and
I'm
simply
asking
that
they
find
a
place
to
put
these
I've
made
just
a
couple
of
distinctions
here
for
counties
that
have
a
population
over
a
hundred
thousand.
M
I'm
asking
them
to
designate
a
zone
for
tiny
houses
as
an
accessory
dwelling
unit,
a
single
family
dwelling
unit,
and
to
allow
for
tiny
home,
mobile
or
tiny
home
parks
for
those
with
a
population
of
a
hundred
thousand
or
less.
I
am
asking
them
to
do
any
of
the
three
if
they
feel
capable.
I
would
like
them
to
do
all
three,
but
at
least
they
will
be
able
to
address
the
the
desire
and
the
need,
in
my
opinion,
for
tiny
homes
in
nevada.
M
In
addition,
local
governments
will
be
able
to
provide
any
additional
requirements
for
the
structure
to
be
designated
as
a
tiny
home.
We
will
ask
that
they
designate
the
tiny
house
as
an
accessory
dwell
unit
in
an
appropriate
zoning
designation
as
a
single
family
unit
or
as
a
tiny
house
within
an
appropriately
zoned
tiny
home
park.
M
The
certificate
of
occupancy
for
a
tiny
house
may
allow
of
the
the
house
for
residential
use
as
either
single
family
dwelling
or
as
an
excessive
accessory
dwelling
unit.
Whichever
is
appropriate
and
any
tiny
certificate
occupancy
for
a
tiny
home
not
on
a
permanent
foundation,
can
only
be
issued
when
located
on
a
parcel
of
land
and
only
for
that
location.
M
There
needs
to
be
provisions
for
individual
or
community
water
and
wastewater
service
and
again
minimum
spacing
requirements,
minimum
or
maximum
size
for
the
park
itself,
appropriate,
open
space
and
appropriate
parking.
And
again,
I
believe
that
the
localities
are
are
best
suited
to
make
these
decisions.
M
M
It
does
not
require
municipalities
to
to
overlap
current
existing
residential
zoning
with
tiny
home
zoning
if
they
do
not
so
choose,
and
it
also
does
not
require
again
for
those
populations
under
a
hundred
thousand
for
them
to
zone
all
three
options:
the
accessory
dwelling
unit,
the
single
family,
residence
and
the
the
mobile
park,
and
really
that
is
so
that
those
smaller
localities
who
don't
have
a
zoning
staff
are
not
overwhelmed
with
all
three
of
these
options
and
and
all
three
may
not
be
needed
in
some
of
these
rural
areas
chair
at
this
time.
A
M
Yes,
he
is
here
to
answer
technical
questions.
He
knows
a
lot
more
about
zoning
than
I
do,
and
so,
as
you,
as
you
said
earlier,
I'm
phoning
a
friend,
okay,.
A
That's
good
all
right!
So
with
that
committee
questions,
senator
gilcochia.
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair
senator
harris.
I
guess
I
just
got
a
question
is:
is
a
tiny
house
defined
square
footage
or
whatever
I
mean,
what's
a
tiny
house
or
just
a
small
home.
M
Thank
you
for
that
question.
Senator
gorkachia
to
you
through
chair,
don
darrell
luke,
a
tiny
home
based
upon
this
bill,
will
be
defined
by
reference
to
the
international
residential
code,
appendix
q
or
any
of
its
successor
versions,
because
that
that
may
be
updated
at
any
time.
And
so
yes,
it
is
currently
400
square
feet,
not
including
loft.
M
A
You
very
much
senator
hansen,
no
okay,
senator
neil.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
G
So
I
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
start
off
with
property
tax
or
not
even
property
tax
property
value.
Even
I
understand
that
you
want
to
create
a
zone,
but
but
how?
How
do
these
tiny
houses
grow
in
value?
I've?
I've
always
seen
them
as
a
drag
on
the
value
of
single
residential.
So
so
are
there
studies
out
there
that
say
that
these
grow
in
significant
value
where
it
actually
benefits
the
local
economy.
M
You
know
what
senator
neil
to
you
through
chair
dunderloop.
I
think
that's
a
great
question
and,
and
unfortunately
I
don't
have
any
numbers
on
how
these
homes
appreciate
versus
other
single-family
residences,
but
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
do
some
research
on
that,
and
I
I
just
want
to
you
know,
get
to
one
of
your
concerns.
M
I
think
this
is
why
it
is
unlikely
that
in
clark
county,
they
will
be
placing
these
next
to
existing
single-family
residences
or
maybe
having
them
mix
where
you've
got
a
you
know
a
two-story
house
and
then
and
then
a
tiny
home
next
to
it,
because
you
don't
want
to
interact
with
the
property
values
in
that
way.
But
again,
this
is
another
reason
why
I'm
kind
of
leaving
it
up
to
localities
to
decide.
Where
is
the
best
place
to
to
put
these.
N
And
senator
harris
and
madam
chair,
if
I
may
matt
walker
for
the
record,
thank
you
on
behalf
of
the
southern
nevada
home
builders
association
through
you,
chair,
dendera
loop
to
senator
neil
excellent
question
on
the
stand-alone,
tiny
home
and
tiny
home
park
conversation.
N
There
certainly
is
a
national
best
standard
and
best
practice
standards
that
have
been
developed
by
the
american
planning,
association
and
others
in
terms
of
how
you
value
and
assess
these
structures
in
terms
of
the
accessory
dwelling
unit,
they
would
be
part
of
the
parcel
that's
associated
with
the
original
single-family
home,
so
they
wouldn't
be
sold
in
separate
parcels,
and
they
would
simply
be
another
improvement
that
should
be
valued
and
assessed
based
on
the
overall
residential
homes
value,
and
these
are
really
critical
in
states
like
washington
and
minnesota
and
revitalizing
communities
allowing
seniors
to
age
in
place
in
their
homes
because
they
have
an
additional
revenue
source
and
it
really
is
a
way
to
plug
some
extra
life
and
extra
density
into
some
of
our
more
established
communities.
G
So
and
I'm
and
I'm
glad
you,
you
brought
up
an
area
dense
areas
where
there's
potentially
redevelopment
or
other
things
going
on,
because
I
guess
I
guess
I've.
I
wanted
to
understand
like
if
you
allow
the
the
counties
or
local
jurisdictions
to
come
up
with
where
it
goes.
How
do
you
prevent
it
from
going
to
an
area
where,
let's
say
they're
like
well,
you
know?
I
don't.
G
I
don't
want
it
in
the
lakes,
but
I'm
perfectly
okay
with
it
going
to
the
west
side
right
where
the
property
value
was
low
and
it-
and
it
won't
affect
me
but
and
it's
okay
for
them,
because
the
average
property
tax
value
over
there
is
5
thousand.
So
we
can.
We
can
we'll
test
it
there
right
where
it
is
a
further
exacerbates
number
one
redevelopment
and
changing
the
landscape
of
an
area
so
that
you
can
actually
get
an
advancement
for
that
community.
G
And
I-
and
I-
and
I
know
I'm
saying
this
in
a
derogatory
way,
because
I'm
not
a
fan
of
tiny
houses,
mainly
because
I
don't
want
it
to
go
into
poor
areas,
and
I
don't
want
it
to
go
into
poor
areas
that
I
want
a
redevelopment
to
occur
and
actually
have
sustainable
homes
where
good
homes.
You
know
what
I'm
saying
like
something
the
american
dream
home.
M
It
it
does
and
to
you
senator
neil
through
chair
chairman
darrell
directly.
Thank
you
so
much.
You
know
I,
I
think
you're
hitting
on
a
couple
of
things:
disparities
in
zoning,
which
is
something
I
I
can't
I
can't
fix
in
in
this
bill
and
also
a
difference.
I
think
in
our
philosophies
about
tiny
homes
right.
This
is
something
I
personally
would
choose
to
to
live
in
and
maybe
build
as
a
permanent
residence.
M
Because
of
who
I
am
and-
and
you
know
my
own
personal
taste,
but
I
also
see
these
as
a
stepping
stone
to
larger
home
ownership
in
that
american
dream
sense,
not
as
some
hindrance
to
that
eventual
to
that
eventual
dream.
So
really
what
I'm
looking
to
do
here
is
to
allow
those
who'd
like
to
build
one.
M
Let's
say:
you've
got
some
land
in
mount
charleston
and
you
want
to
put
a
tiny
home
up
on
your
land,
but
there's
nowhere
to
put
them
right
so
for
those
who'd
like
to
buy
one
or
who
would
like
to
put
it
in
their
backyard,
I
would
like
to
give
them
the
option
and
and
again
I'm
hoping
that
these
can
also
become
a
an
alternative
to
those
who
cannot
take
that
first
step
or
get
that
20
down
for
your
first.
You
know:
275
thousand
dollar,
home.
N
And
madam
chair,
if
I
may
matt
walker
for
the
record
on
behalf
of
the
southern
nevada
home
builders,
senator
neil,
I
would
also
add
that
this
is
the
in
the
term.
In
the
situation
where
you
have
accessory
dwelling
units
enabled
across
a
variety
of
residential
zoning.
This
is
an
ability
to
have
redevelopment
without
really
changing
the
existing
residential
nature
of
the
neighborhood.
So
where
folks
might
come
into
the
historic
west
side
and
say,
the
only
way
we're
ever
going
to
revitalize
is
to
raise
some
of
these
parcels
and
start
something
brand
new.
N
This
is
a
way
to
inject
dollars.
Inject
investment
and
increase
values,
revitalize
communities
while
ex
while
preserving
the
existing
zoning
types
and
and
that's
why,
when
you
look
to
best
practice-
and
we
hope
that
clark,
county,
north
las
vegas
and
others
will
look
to
best
practice
across
the
country
from
washington,
new
hampshire
minnesota
and
instead
of
picking
a
spot
here
and
there
and
saying
this-
is
an
appropriate
place
for
tiny
homes.
N
Be
bold
enough
to
adopt
policies
across
categories
and
say
these
entire
residential
categories
across
our
valley
are
appropriate
for
for
accessory
jeweling
unit
redevelopment
and
utilizing
tiny
homes,
and
we
certainly
think
that
that
would
be
appropriate
and
have
a
more
organic
and
maybe
less
concentrated
development
of
these
tiny
homes,
which
I
think
sounds
like
it's
it's
important
to
you
and
it
would
certainly
be
an
important
community
discussion.
G
I
think
these
bills
are
exhausting
me,
so
I
just
have
one
last
question
on
one:
there
was.
It
was
mentioned
like
the
infrastructure,
the
water
waste
management
fire.
G
I
guess-
and-
and
it
goes
back
to
my
first
question-
on
the
value
and
the
property
value
of
these,
and
and
if
it's
a
local
improvement
district
or,
however,
this
is
zoned.
How
are
they
how?
How
is
this
paid
for
right
if
they
become
a
part
of
a
zoning
area?
G
And
then,
let's
say
the
houses,
you're
you're,
saying
well
they're
accessory
dwelling
in
a
park
and
they
can
move
in
and
out,
but
yet
these
services
have
then
been
designated
for
this
stone
or,
and
these
homeowners
and
these
tiny
houses
right,
I
mean
typically
the
homeowner
right
pays
for
that,
but
when
it
becomes
a
vacancy
or
a
foreclosure
or
whatever
it's,
it
is
no
longer
that
right.
It
then
becomes
this
blight.
M
When
we
come
to
the
idea
of
these
tiny
home
parks
and
requiring
that
there
be
these
spacing
requirements
and
room
for
utilities,
I
do
not
see
them
operating
too
much
different
than
existing
mobile,
home
or
rv
parks,
and
I
I
would
hope
that
localities
have
the
same
kind
of
protections
in
place
for
when
something
is
abandoned
or
when
you
know
something
becomes
dilapidated,
and
that
this
would
not
significantly
change
that.
Mr
walker.
N
Matt
walker
for
the
record,
on
behalf
of
the
southern
nevada,
home
builders
association.
I
would
echo
senator
harris's
comments
in
that
southern
nevada,
health,
district,
local
governments
and
others
make
great
efforts
to
ensure
that
whatever
they're
planning
in
terms
of
wastewater
or
other
utilities,
there
are
contingency
plans
and
I
would
imagine,
in
the
case
of
a
park,
you
would
need
an
overall
kind
of
master
developer
of
that
park.
N
If,
if
those
lots
aren't
going
to
be
fee,
simple
transferred
to
the
owners-
and
I
would
certainly
defer
to
our
local
government
partners
and
utilities
on
how
that
would
that
would
work
in
the
case
that
a
park
winds
down.
But
we
we
think
that
there's
significant
structures
in
place
and-
and
I
would
also
say
that
senator
harris
took
a
pretty
light
touch
in
terms
of
any
sort
of
mandates
or
imposing
a
structure
on
local
governments.
A
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
senator
neil
additional
questions
from
the
committee.
A
I
have
one
that
I
was
when
I
heard
you
talking
about
putting
this
on
a
lot.
So
is
there
something
where
I
can't
continue
to
customize
this,
so
I
start
with
400.
I
end
up
with
I
put
on
200
more
I
put
in
200
more
and
then
pretty
soon.
I've
got
like
a
big
house.
That's
kind
of
this
add-on
add-on.
M
And
to
your
question
a
chair,
thank
you
so
much
for
it.
This
would
not
be
any
different
than
adding
on
to
your
current
single
family
residence.
M
If
the
lot
is
zoned
for
5
000
square
feet,
and
you
continue
to
make
improvements
and
add
on,
of
course,
you
would
need
to
get
approval
for
construction
and
make
sure
that
all
of
that
add-on
does
not
put
you
out
of
the
zoning
that
you
are
already
in
and
the
same
would
apply
here.
The
tiny
homes
do
have
a
maximum
square
footage
which
which
may
adjust
as
the
international
residential
code
evolves,
but
it's
currently
at
400
with
excluding
a
loft.
M
So
I
guess,
theoretically,
you
could
kind
of
build
up
a
little
bit,
but
of
course
you
would
just
have
to
stay
within
your
zoning
regulations,
as
you
would
for
any
other
building
structure.
N
So,
where
you
have
your
initial
building
permit
pulled
by
the
local
government
instead
of
somebody
just
plopping
one
of
these
things
in
their
backyard,
we
really
are
starting
to
create
a
regulatory
structure
where
local
governments
can
get
their
arms
around
these
structures
and
ensure
that
public
safety
and
the
characters
of
the
neighborhood
are
both
being
meaningfully
protected.
While
we're
also
seeing
where
we
can
push
the
envelope
and
providing
these
new
innovative
living
spaces
for
for
residents,
but
certainly,
as
you
add,
a
porch
or
add
other
things,
that
would
add
square
footage
to
these.
N
You
would
need
to
come
back
for
the
permit
to
the
body
that
you
got
that
original
permit
from
and
we
hope
that
they
they
coordinate
with
their
local
code
enforcement
and
and
planning
departments,
as
they
do
a
great
job
of
in
southern
nevada,
and
keep
check
on
on
making
sure
that
they're
striking
the
balance
between
safety
and
the
property
rights
and
ability
of
folks
to
customize
and
enjoy
their
property.
A
So,
just
to
follow
up
to
that.
So
are
these!
So
when
you
purchase
a
mobile
home
generally,
you
purchase
it
from
a
dealer
or
a
supplier,
and
then
that
home
is
placed
on
that
piece
of
property
within
that
mobile
home
park.
Are
these
that
type
of
a
system
as
well?
In
other
words,
if
I
want
to
buy
one
of
these
or
I
want
to
live
in
one
of
these,
do
I
go
to
how
where,
where
does
the
initial
spot
come
from?
A
M
And
and
share
currently
you
can
you
can
buy
tiny
homes
on
amazon.
You
can
buy
them
from
ikea,
but
it
is
truly
my
hope
that
once
we
open
up
the
the
regulatory
structure
for
these,
you
will
see
developers
building
tiny
home
communities.
It's
my
hope,
howard
hughes
might
put
a
tiny
home
community
in
summerlin.
You
know
there
will
be
a
lot
more
options
available
as
opposed
to
an
individual
having
to
kind
of
do
it
all
on
their
own.
So
I
see
all
of
these
being
options
in
the
future.
N
And
madam
chair
just
to
put
a
finer
point
on
that:
matt
walker
on
behalf
of
the
southern
nevada,
homebuilders
association.
There's
really
two
really
common
paths
to
get
to
a
tiny
home
and
one
is
on
a
chassis
and
it's
got
independent
engineering
or
certification
by
the
manufactured
housing
division
and
that's
really
a
predominant
model
now.
But
I
think
it's
because
local
governments
haven't
yet
moved
to
adopt
the
appendix
q
for
the
irc,
which
again
is
only
a
little
less
than
three
years
old.
So
we
understand
why
they
haven't.
N
But
we
hope
to
see
as
senator
harris
mentioned,
many
more
site-built
homes
in
which
you'd
call
a
qualified
contractor,
or
they
would
even
maybe
even
market
to
you
and
instead
of
having
to
go
the
route
of
taking
a
manufacture,
structural
and
then
and
then
modifying
it
to
meet
local
standards
and
codes.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
a
couple
of
questions.
One
in
my
I
used
to
do
a
lot
of
housing
tracks.
One
of
the
more
popular
options
were
called
casites
or
mother-in-law
quarters
and
they,
in
effect,
sound
very
similar
to
the
the
tiny
house
concept.
The
concern
that
I
have,
though,
is
if
these
are
kind
of
stand-alones
at
some
point,
and
I
think
this
is
one
of
the
things
senator
neal
may
have
been
getting
at,
I
can
see
one
major
fear
would
be.
J
J
Is
there
any
you
know,
and
that
obviously
becomes
a
concern,
because,
in
effect,
the
other
types
of
residential
housing
ends
up
subsidizing
these
on
the
tax
front
versus
the
amount
that
the
tax
people
consume?
Could
you
address
that
either
matt
or
or
dallas
said
you?
You
want
to
touch
that.
M
Yeah
senator
senator
hansen,
I
I'll
start
by
by
making
my
best
attempt.
First,
let
me
commit
to
get
get
some
more
research
for
the
committee
on
property
tax,
how
they're
assessed
how
the
values
of
these
have
been
assessed
and,
and
whether
there's
been
appreciation-
I
will-
I
will
say
there
is
the
intent
of
this
bill-
is
absolutely
not
to
bring
down
existing
property
values
or
to
require
these
to
be
something
that
will
take
away
from
the
community.
M
I'm
really
looking
to
add
here-
and
I
think,
an
assumption
underlying
your
question
is
that
only
certain
people
may
choose
to
build
these
homes
and
or
live
in
them,
and
I
would
challenge
challenge
that
assumption.
N
Senator
hansen,
matt
walker
for
the
record
on
behalf
of
the
southern
nevada,
homebuilders
association.
I
would
just
add
that
you
know
new
development
is
the
number
one
driver
of
property
taxes
under
our
current
property
tax
structure,
and
so
I
know
that
as
a
someone
who's
who's
worked
on
a
few
homes
yourself.
We
hope
that
you're
a
fan
and
continue
to
support
policies
like
this,
that
they
get
outside
of
the
box
and
encourage
new
development.
N
The
only
other
thing
I
would
add
is
that
the
only
other
thing
that
I
would
add
is
the
ability
of
local
governments
to
adopt
impact
fees
that
offset
the
cost
of
development,
whether
that's
the
need
for
fire
service,
the
need
for
additional
sewer
service
that
we've
got
robust
programs,
maybe
overly
robust
to
some
critics
in
southern
nevada
in
terms
of
the
impact
fees
that
can
be
charged
to
to
new
homes,
to
ensure
that
they're
not
a
burden
on
the
communities
surrounding
them,
and
I
certainly
think
that
absolutely
nothing
in
this
bill
would
limit
local
governments
from
doing
that.
N
Whether
that's
through
a
sewer
impact
fee
on
an
accessory
dwelling
unit
or
in
the
case
of
a
a
new
community,
that's
all
fee,
simple,
tiny
homes.
You
know
assessing
that
that
fire
service
fee-
that's
that's
appropriate
for
that
community,
so
certainly
in
southern
nevada.
I
think
they
do
a
fantastic
job
of
planning
that
out
and
and
planning
for
those
impacts
and
allowing
for
the
fees
to
offset
that
instead
of
the
neighboring
residents,
to
pick
up
the
tab
on
that
additional
need
for
service.
J
Okay,
well,
thank
you,
matt
and
dallas.
I
look
forward
to
seeing
those
those
reports.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
N
I
N
Senator
hornshaw
matt
walker,
I'm
on
for
the
record
on
behalf
of
the
southern
nevada
home
builders
association
that
one
I
I
will
have
to
defer
to
the
local
governments
in
terms
of
their
willingness
to
do
so.
N
But
I
understand
the
importance
of
that
question
because
I
think
there
are
key
consumer
protections
in
place
for
residents
of
parks
and
I
think
that
there
would
need
to
be
a
meaningful
conversation
about
how
that
would
transition
to
some
sort
of
new
type
of
ownership
and
we'd
be
happy
to
take
that
conversation,
offline
and
and
answer
any
questions
after
we've
had
the
benefit
of
having
that
conversation
with
local
governments.
M
Mom
chair,
if
I
may
I'd
just
like
to
let
you
know
sandra
orange
all,
it
is
my
intention
that,
if
the
if
the
local
jurisdiction
finds
that
it's
the
best
way
to
create
zoning
for
this,
to
allow
this
kind
of
mixed
use,
they
will
be
able
to
do
that
if
they
feel
that
for
their
area
it
is
best
to
keep
these
separate
from
traditional
manufactured
homes.
They
will
be
able
to
do
that.
So
it's
really.
A
Thank
you
very
much
additional
questions.
A
So
if
I'm
understanding
this
correctly,
there
will
be
some
the
the
local
entities
are,
who
we
are
depending
on
to
put
the
parameters
of
who.
What
where,
within
these
tiny
homes,
is
that
correct,
senator
harris.
A
All
right
any
additional
questions,
I'm
seeing
none.
So
we
will
go
to
support
and
we'll
hear
testimony.
Please
listen
carefully
and
broadcasting
will
bring
you
in.
H
H
K
K
Nba
is
the
largest
trade
association
in
state
of
nevada,
with
over
900
members
covering
all
facets
of
the
construction
industry.
We
fully
support
the
concept
of
the
bill
as
presented
in
our.
We
are
shared
some
suggestions
with
the
build
sponsor.
We
look
forward
to
continuing
our
work
with
senator
harris
on
a
conceptual
amendment
by
offering
our
subject
matter,
expertise.
K
In
fact,
our
members
have
built
and
developed
tiny
homes,
and
we
think
that
these
are
important
tools
for
nevadans
to
use
to
get
our
increasing
housing
prices
under
control.
Efforts
like
this
are
exceptionally
important
as
we
look
for
ways
to
provide
housing
to
all.
We
thank
senator
harris
for
bringing
this
bill
forward
and
thank
the
chairpers
scheduling
of
bill
hearing
on
senate
stanford
150..
Thank
you
for
your
time.
H
B
Hi,
this
is
chelsea
loomis,
I'm
just
a
private
citizen
here
in
clark
county-
and
I
was
calling
in
today
because
I
am
passionately
in
support
of
senate
bill
150.,
coming
from
a
background,
a
few
different
directions,
one
I
work
with
child
services
division
in
oregon,
and
I
echo
the
comments
that
the
families
or
people
all
need
steady
housing
and
secure
housing.
That's
really
an
important
thing.
B
The
the
tiny
home
is
often
either
built
or
paid
in
cash
by
the
person
they're,
usually
under
40,
and
they
take
a
lot
of
pride
in
them.
They
take
care
of
them
and
they
travel
with
them
because
you've
got
to
understand
a
lot
of
these
people
are
working
mobily
or
they
are
authors
or
writers,
or
things
like
that.
It's
really
a
different
category
of
housing,
that's
one
category
and
then
there's
small
homes
and
the
small
home
category,
and
somebody
asked
a
question
about
appreciating
property
values
and
that's
the
best
way
to
do.
B
It
actually
is
to
put
them
to
create
that
category
as
well
and
be
able
to
put
them
on
a
foundation
because
they're
just
getting
census
figures
now.
But
if
you
look
in
like
bend
oregon,
there's
a
community
or
at
mammoth,
there
is
a
ranch
there
that
has
put
them
on
these
tiny
homes
on
the
ranch
and
is
renting
them
out,
they're
selling
out
and
they're,
creating
all
kinds
of
tourist
revenue,
and
things
like
that.
B
I
mean
that's
another
category
for
them,
but
in
the
way
that
tesla
couldn't
get
it
done
the
things
they
wanted
to
get
done
in
california
and
they
came
to
nevada,
I
think
nevada
coming
from
perspective
of
being
raised
in
california.
I
think
nevada
is
the
state
of
innovation,
and
I
think
that's
really
what
we're
talking
about
with
these
things
is
innovating
a
new
category
and
the
best
way
to
take
dependent
folks
off
of
the
roles
of
public
assistance
is
to
give
them
a
way
to
build
wealth,
and
what
I
think
this
does
is.
B
It
gives
them
a
foot
in
the
door,
particularly
with
smaller
homes,
but
possibly
even
the
tiny
home
like
buying
their
first
vehicle,
it's
their
housing
vehicle
and
and
then,
if
they
can
get
their
foot
in
the
door
with
a
mini
mortgage.
Sorry
I'll
finish
up
a
mini
mortgage
is
doable.
You
know,
150
000
is
doable
for
a
lot
of
these.
So
anyway,
that's
my
support
today.
Thank
you.
Thank.
H
H
I
Jared
luke
j-a-r-e-d
l-u-k-e,
the
government
affairs
director
for
the
city
of
north
las
vegas.
We
want
to
thank
the
sponsor
for
working
with
the
city
of
north
las
vegas
and
being
transparent
on
the
intent
of
senate
bill
150..
We
appreciate
the
committee
for
the
questions
and
identifying
areas
where
this
bill
needs
some
clarification.
We
understand
that
each
jurisdiction
has
its
own
unique
zoning
and
ordinance
codes,
but
we
commit
to
work
with
the
senator
and
on
clarifying
final
language,
and
we
thank
the
committee
and
the
senator
for
for
their
time.
H
H
K
I'm
new
at
this
warren
hardy
first
name-
warren
w-a-r-r-e-n
last
name
hardy
h-a-r-d-y
today
representing
the
urban
consortium.
If
I
may,
madam
chair
just
to
introduce,
reintroduce
the
urban
consortium,
it's
an
entity
that
has
existed
in
the
past
in
the
legislature
made
up
of
the
cities
of
henderson,
las
vegas,
reno
and
sparks
our.
Our
effort
is
to
try
to
unify
our
effort
to
make
this
session
easier
on
both
the
cities
and
their
staffs,
as
well
as
the
legislature
and
your
staff.
K
We
are
testifying
today
in
neutral
on
this
bill
and
appreciate
senator
harris.
We
we're
dealing
with
a
couple
of
amendments
that
were
presented
to
us
over
the
weekend.
We
just
received
senator
harris's
amendment
this
morning
and
our
staff
at
each
of
the
entities
that
we
represent
are
reviewing
them
and
we
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
continue
to
participate
in
the
discussion.
K
I
really
appreciate
senator
harris's
acknowledgement
that
zoning
is
primarily
under
the
purview
of
local
governments,
but
I
want
you,
madam
chair,
and
the
sponsor
to
know
that
we
also
recognize
the
appropriateness
of
the
legislature
setting
general
policy
objectives
on
these
kinds
of
issues,
so
we
are
neutral
at
this
point,
but
look
forward
to
continuing
to
work
with
the
sponsor
to
move
this
across
the
finish
line.
Thank
you.
So
much.
H
F
Good
afternoon,
chair
dondero
lupin,
members
of
the
senate
government
affairs
committee,
dagny
stapleton
for
the
record
d-a-g-n-y
s-t-a-p-l-e,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
nato,
the
nevada
association
of
counties.
We
want
to
put
on
the
record
that
we
really
appreciate
the
center
working
with
counties
on
this
bill
and
we
understand
her
intent
and
what
it
is
that
she
would
like
to
accomplish
with
the
legislation.
We
went
back
and
forth
on
the
language
with
her
and
again
appreciate
her
willingness
to
do
that.
With
the
proposed
conceptual
amendment
we
are
neutral.
F
I
wanted
to
add
that,
on
behalf
of
nato's
rural
members,
we
appreciate
the
senator's
willingness
to
recognize
that
requiring
tiny
homes
in
all
of
the
following
zones:
single-family
parks,
as
well
as
as
accessory
dwelling
units,
may
not
be
a
good
fit
for
all
counties,
especially
our
smallest
county,
some
of
which
have
very
few
zoning
districts
to
begin
with,
and
actually
some
of
those
areas
in
some
of
our
rural
counties
already
allow
tiny
homes.
F
H
H
I
I
represent
douglas
lyon
story
and
carson
city
county,
I'm
testifying
neutral
on
the
conceptual
amendment
waiting
to
see
the
the
lcd
amendment,
I'd
like
to
take
the
opportunity
to
thank
senator
harris
for
working
with
rural
communities
counties
to
address
our
concerns
also
like
to
thank
clark,
county
and
naco
for
taking
the
lead
with
and
working
with,
senator
harris.
I
I
If
you
had
a
10,
000
square
foot
lot
and
you
had
four
tiny
homes
on
it,
that's
the
same
thing
as
having
a
single
foam
home
on
an
individual
acre.
If
you
had
that
domestic
well
with
sewer
all
through
nevada,
where
we
have
that
type
of
density
on
sewers
and
wet
domestic
whales,
we
contaminate
the
groundwater.
That's
our
issue
and
the
new.
Our
conceptual
amendment
allows
us
to
address
that.
Thank.
H
L
Good
evening,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee
joanna
jacob
j,
o
j-o-a-n-n-a-j-a-c-o-b
government
affairs
manager
for
clark
county,
we
did
work
with
senator
harris
over
the
weekend
to
try
and
work
on
the
original
bill
and
what
you
now
see
before
you,
as
the
conceptual
amendment,
wanted
to
thank
her
for
the
time
that
she
put
in
over
this
weekend
and,
like
the
previous
callers,
the
recognition
that
zoning,
local
land
use,
planning
etc
is
better
left
at
the
local
level.
I
it
was
an
interesting
discussion
today.
I
really
appreciate
the
comments
from
senator
neil
senator
hanson.
L
I
think
that
these
are
things
that
exactly
why
we
want
to
take
the
time
and
to
study
it
and
locate.
Take
the
time
to
look
at
where
to
locate
these
things
in
clark.
County
clark,
county
is
in
the
midst
of
a
major
effort,
calling
it
transformed
clark
county
to
rewrite
our
entire
development
code.
So
it's
very
timely
and
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
can
make
the
right
decision
for
our
community
and,
of
course,
welcome
anybody's
input
in
that
process.
L
H
B
Good
afternoon,
chair
and
committee,
jamie
rodriguez
for
the
record,
that's.
B
J-A-M-I-E-R-O-D-R-I-G-U-E-Z,
I'm
the
government
affairs
manager
for
washoe
county,
and
I
want
to
start
by
thanking
the
sponsor
for
working
with
us
on
this
bill.
Tiny
homes
are
allowed
in
different
areas
of
washoe
county
and
based
on
our
understanding
from
the
sponsor,
as
well
as
what
she
testified
today.
B
We
are
here
neutral
today,
looking
forward
to
working
with
or
continuing
to
work
with.
The
sponsor
excuse
me,
as
we
move
from
a
conceptual
amendment,
into
draft
language,
but
again
very
much
so
appreciate
the
sponsor
working
with
us
and
understanding
how
specific
jurisdictions
operate
these
separately.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much
any
concluding
comments
from
the
bill
sponsor
senator
harris.
M
M
I'd
also
like
to
think,
as
I'm
sure
you
all
heard,
the
kind
of
very
large
variety
of
stakeholders
who
were
willing
to
work
with
me
over
the
weekend
and
into
the
night
on
getting
this
bill
to
the
point
where
it
was
today,
and
I
look
forward
to
continuing
to
work
with
them
to
get
them
over
the
finish
line.
Thank
you.
So
much.
A
Sorry
I
couldn't
find
my
little
arrow
to
even
open
up
myself,
so
apologies.
Thank
you
very
much
for
those
comments
and
I
will
close
the
hearing
on
senate
bill
150
and
may
we
go
to
public
comment.
Just
a
reminder.
Public
comment
is
about
anything
that
we
have
not
discussed
today,
so
the
bills
are
already
closed.
Thank
you
very
much
and
we'll
wait
for
broadcasting.
H
A
All
right
well,
we'll
give
them
just
a
couple
minutes
to
see
if
they
arrive,
but
I
think
that
everybody's
been
on
the
line
for
a
couple
hours
now
with
that
being
said,
hearing
no
more
comments.