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A
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to
push
to
unmute
yourself
so
that
you
can
present
your
testimony
today,
we'll
be
hearing
two
bills.
A
D
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
senate
bill
138
a
bill
that
seeks
to
allow
cities
and
counties
to
create
a
more
streamlined
process
for
making
minor
modifications
to
planned
unit
development,
more
commonly
known
as
puds
we
are
going
to.
We
have
some
amendments
that
were
given
to
you
we're
still
having
conversations
we
wanted
to.
Let
you
know
chair
that
there
may
be
some
minor
changes
after
the
presentation
today.
D
I've
been
working
with
the
city
of
henderson
at
sb,
138
and
several
staff
members
from
the
city
are
joining
me
today
to
help
present
the
bill
and
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have
about.
My
legislation,
the
city
of
henderson,
which
includes
parts
of
senate
district
7,
has
approximately
2
000
puds
of
various
sizes
and
ages.
D
Many
of
these
are
decades
old
and
many
have
undergone
significant
changes
since
they
were
first
created,
including
ownership.
This
is
not
unusual
cities
and
counties
throughout
nevada
encounter
requests
for
changes
to
be
made
to
these
puds
all
the
time.
My
bill
would
give
the
needed
flexibility
to
cities
and
counties
when
it
comes
to
approving
minor
modifications
and
will
help
to
modernize
a
section
of
nrs
that
is
nearly
50
years
old.
Let
me
give
you
a
very
easy
example
that
I
use
when
I
talk
about
liner
modifications.
D
D
E
Thank
you,
senator
lange.
Thank
you,
chair
donderon,
loop
and
members
of
the
community
for
having
us
today.
My
name
is
michael
tassie.
I
am
the
director
of
community
development
and
services
for
the
city
of
henderson
over
the
next
few
slides.
I
intend
to
provide
an
overview
of
the
issues
we
have
experienced
in
henderson
and
our
proposed
solution.
E
As
was
mentioned,
we
have
had
numerous
older
puds
within
the
city
and
have
encouraged,
or
I'm
sorry
encountered
some
issues
during
minor
amendments
to
those
puds
exclusively
the
non-residential
variety.
As
we
considered
an
nrs
amendment,
it
occurred
to
us
that
the
statute
was
written
almost
50
years
ago,
and
development
codes
have
come
a
long
way.
Then,
since
then,
as.
F
E
Codes
every
10
years,
our
proposal
was
to
enable
jurisdiction
to
adopt
ordinances,
to
streamline
the
minor
modification
processes
for
non-residential
quds
and
update
minor
procedural
steps
for
initial
approval.
Next
slide,
please,
our
intent
with
this
proposal
is
to
modernize
the
statute
to
make
some
provisions
that
allow,
but
not
require
local
adoption
of
all
its
procedural
requirements
and
ensure
transparency
and
public
participation
in
the
process.
Since
enacting
local
ordinance
requires
a
public
hearing.
E
E
E
Regarding
minor
modifications
to
approved
pods,
we
see
many
benefits
to
streamlining,
including
saving
time
saving
money,
expediting
reinvestment
or
investment
in
properties
and
a
process
that
will
align
more
closely
with
a
non-pud
development
modification
process.
Thus
leveling
playing
field,
for
example,
henderson's
design,
review
process
for
site
design,
architecture
and
landscaping
is
administrative
in
nature.
Assuming
a
proposal
for
a
minor
modification
complies
with
a
development
code,
I
will
expand
on
this
later.
E
F
E
Or
anything
where
code
would
require
this
discretionary
review
by
the
local
jurisdiction?
For
example,
we
have
had
questions
of
applicability
of
this
proposed
ordinance
to
taverns.
If
a
tavern
wanted
to
change
their
facade
because
of
a
new
theme,
they
may
be
able
to
do
so
through
a
minor
modification.
However,
in
henderson,
for
example,
if
a
tavern
were.
E
E
The
proposed
bill
will
allow
cities
and
counties
to
clarify
their
ordinances
that
this
change
can
be
done
administratively
I'll
go
to
the
this
next
slide
and
if,
if
chris
won't
toggle
between
the
two
you'll
see
the
differences
here,
this
is
this
office
building
added
a
roll-up
door,
which
you
can
see
there
and
the
yellow
that
circled
for
one
of
their
tenants
and
non-pud.
This.
E
E
This
slide
shows
the
opposing
processes
side
by
side.
As
you
can
see,
the
pud
process,
as
described
in
nrs
278a,
takes
six
weeks
off
six
weeks
longer
than
a
non-pud,
with
a
similar
request
to
change
for
clarity.
Our
proposal
would
allow
not
require
a
jurisdiction
to
adopt
an
ordinance
for
minor
modifications
of
puds
that
would
mimic
non-pubs
again
as
amended.
This
proposal
would
not
would
only
apply
to
non-residential
pds,
for
the
public
process
of
appeal
would
still
be
available
on
site
further.
E
The
public
process
of
appeal
would
still
be
available
as
it
is
for
other
administrative
processes,
as
I
turn
this
over
to
david
to
go
over
the
bill
language.
I'd
like
to
reiterate
our
purpose
and
intent.
This
proposal
solidifies
jurisdiction's
ability
to
enact
local
pd
audiences.
It
streamlines
minor
modification
processes,
modernizes
an
almost
50
year
old
section
of
nrs
and
allows
jurisdiction
jurisdictions
to
keep
their
current
procedures.
E
Nor
does
it
allow
for
major
changes
to
impunity
like
like
additional
buildings
or
uses
that
are
not
already
allowed
within
the
pd.
Lastly,
this
bill
does
not
intend
to
affect
how
taverns
are
approved
or
provide
any
avenues
to
bypass
other
code
required
discretionary
reviews.
Thank
you
for
your
time,
and
I
will
turn
this
over
to
david
cherry.
H
Good
afternoon,
chair
don
darrow
loop
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
david
chairing
government
manager
of
the
city
of
henderson,
it's
now
my
pleasure
to
walk
you
through
the
amendment
section
by
section,
starting
with
section
one
section:
one.
We
remove
the
words
without
limitation.
I'm
sorry
we
add
the
words
without
limitation
as
language
in
the
amendment,
and
this
was
added
by
lcb
at
their
description.
H
H
In
section
3,
we
set
out
requirements
for
what
must
be
contained
in
an
ordinance
addressing
puds,
acted
by
a
count
and
also
requires
that
the
modification
provision
the
ordinance
comply
with
the
provisions
of
nrs
278
port
n,
which
which
I
will
address
when
we
reach
section
13
of
the
bill
in
section
4.
We
are
restoring
language
that
was
deleted
in
the
original,
and
this
is
being
done
at
the
request.
H
A
Also
carrying
mr
cherry,
I'm
sorry
to
stop
you,
but
you
are
cutting
out
in
and
out
a
little
bit.
So
if
you
could,
I
don't
know
if
it's
if
you
can
move
closer
to
your
microphone,
but
we
get
a
good
sentence
and
then
we
don't
get
one.
That's
so
good.
H
H
We
have
also
added
clarifying
language
regarding
use
of
the
tentative
final
mapping
product
process
that
was
discussed
by
my
colleague
mr
task.
This
new
language
appears
in
green
in
subsection
four
section
three
in
section
five,
the
section
addresses
issues
regarding
open
space.
We
have
restored
all
languages
in
this
section
of
sb
138
to
reflect
what
is
currently
in
section
120
of
nrs
278a.
H
This
was
done
at
the
request
of
several
stakeholders.
I
would
also
like
to
note,
with
the
exception
of
changing,
must
to
the
permissive
may.
All
other
changes
in
section
5
of
sb
138
has
introduced
were
included
by
lcb
in
section
6.
We
are
again
restoring
language
in
this
section
to
reflect
the
current
section
130
of
nrs
278-a,
and
this
is
again
being
done
by
stakeholder
request.
H
H
This
deletion
was
not
a
request
made
by
the
sponsor
of
the
city
of
henderson,
but
was
made
by
lcb
in
section
8,
the
strikethrough
language
and
additions
in
blue.
You
see
here
have
the
effect
of
giving
cities
and
counties
the
ability
to
modify
the
5
acre
minimum,
if
done
so
by
ordinance.
Please
note
that,
under
this
current
section
of
the
existing
statute,
the
right
to
waive
this
requirement
already
exists,
but
it
does
not
specify
it
be
done
by
ordinance
section
9.
H
We
are
allowing
a
city
or
county
to
modify
an
existing
standard
in
this
case
for
number
of
parking
spaces
if
it
is
done
so
by
ordinance.
This
is
in
keeping
with
the
intent
of
the
bill
to
allow
jurisdictions
greater
flexibility,
section
10.
The
changes
here
in
subsection
1
of
section
10
are
meant
to
reflect
that
the
enforcement
and
modification
of
any
pud
plan
is
subject
to
an
ordinance
adopted
by
a
city
or
county
and
various
sections
of
nrs
278-a
in
subsection
2
of
section
10.
H
H
Section
11
eliminates
the
changes
proposed
in
this
section
of
the
original
bill
and
restores
nrs
278
390
to
its
current
section.
12
restores
existing
language
now
in
nrs
278
section
13
establishes
the
ability
for
a
city
or
county
to
create
its
own
minor
modification
process,
with
some
specific
exceptions
that
require
any
change
to
go
through
the
existing
public
hearing
process
delineated
in
nrs
278
day.
H
These
exceptions
include,
when
a
plan
contains
residential
development
or
seeks
to
add
residential
development
or
when
a
plan
necessitates
a
vacation
or
abandonment
of
any
street
public
sidewalk
pedestrian
ride
away
or
drainages.
These
would
not
be
eligible
for
the
streamlined
miner
modification
process.
H
However,
if
the
ordinance
does
include
the
use
of
both
tentative
and
final
approval
requirements,
then
it
must
be
done
in
accordance
with
the
procedures
now
set
forth.
In
this
chapter,
section
15
strikes
the
word
tentative
section:
16,
subsection
1
sets
out
certain
requirements
related
to
applications
that
must
be
followed
under
this
chapter,
subsection
2
modifies
an
existing
requirement
to
allow
for
an
established
fee
to
either
be
included
in
an
ordinance
or
for
it
to
be
published
and
made
publicly
available
by
city
or
county.
H
I
would
ask
the
members
of
the
committee
to
please
note
that
this
section
is
not
authorizing
the
establishment
of
a
new
fee
and
finally,
subsection
3
strikes.
The
word
tentative
in
two
places.
Section
17
has
the
word
additional
in
subsection,
10
and
strikes
the
word.
Fine
section
18
restores
language
regarding
the
tentative
final
approval
process.
To
make
it
clear,
we
are
preserving
that
options
for
cities
and
counties,
section
19
eliminates
all
changes
in
the
original
version
of
sb138
and
restores
the
existing
nrs
language
section
20
in
subsections,
1
and
2.
H
We
eliminate
changes
and
restore
existing
language
for
nrs.
This
change
was
made
at
the
request.
Stakeholders,
the
new
language
being
added
in
subsection,
3
modifies
existing
language
in
nrs
regarding
conditions
for
revocation
and
makes
this
subsection
permissive
and
subject
to
a
city
or
county
ordinance
in
keeping
with
the
bill's
overall
content.
H
Section
21
subsection
1
deletes
reference
to
final
to
allow
for
flexibility
and
approval
for
earlier
sections
of
the
amendment,
subsection
3
restores
current
nrs
language
and
makes
a
slight
modification
as
reflected
in
the
green
language.
You
see
this
subsection
deals
with
consent
for
modifications
to
uncompleted
duds.
H
The
city's
intent
specific
to
this
section
would
be
to
slightly
revise
statute
so
that
a
modification
to
a
pud
is
not
fully
completed
would
require
consent
only
from
those
landowners
in
the
pud
affected
by
the
modification.
Current
statute
is
unclear
as
to
who
landowner
refers
to.
In
this
context,
this
change
would
not
affect
whether
a
modification
is
eligible
for
an
administrative
approval
or
requires
a
public
hearing
simply
whose
consent
is
required
in
order
for
the
approval
to
be
granted.
H
This
subsection
also
states.
This
must
be
done
in
compliance
with
nrs
278
410,
which
is
in
section
13
of
the
amendment
and
references.
The
provisions
I
spoke
about
earlier
specific
to
residential
development
and
certain
vacations
and
abandoned
section
22,
again
deletes
references
to
the
final
and
finally,
for
the
reasons
I
previously
stated.
H
Section
23
adds
back
in
existing
nrs
language
on
tentative
and
final,
as
requested
by
stakeholders
who
use
this
two-step
process
and
to
clarify
that
judicial
review
is
available
for
denial
or
approval
at
either
stage.
The
original
section
24
that
was
contained
in
the
bill
as
introduced
would
have
would
have
repealed
the
various
sections
of
sb-138.
H
These
are
being
restored
at
the
request
of
the
stakeholders
to
ensure
the
bill,
preserves
the
ability
for
cities
and
counties
to
retain
their
current
process
for
approving
modifying
puds.
So
we
are
striking
through
all
of
those
elements
that
we
had
originally
requested,
be
removed
from
the
bill
and
they
are
all
being
restored
to
reflect
what
is
in
nrs
now.
Finally,
we
have
a
new
section
24
and
that
will
be
the
effective
date
for
the
bill
tip
and
act.
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
the
time
to
present
this
section
by
section.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Is
there
anyone
else
that
you
need
to
bring
forward
senator
lange
you're
muted,
there
we
go.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
committee.
Any
questions
from
you.
I
So
in
section
two
where
you're
saying
this
deals
with
the
jurisdiction,
I
guess
I'm
wondering
if
why
the
need
for
expansion,
but
my
my
my
larger
question
is
you
drag
in
chapter
278
which
to
me
that's
a
catch-all?
So
so
what
are
we
doing
by
by
by
inserting
that
chapter
in
there
of
278,
because
that
is
different?
It's
not
278
a.
H
B
First,
I
guess
I
would
just
point
out
that
language
was
modified
a
bit
by
lcd,
so
I
can't
completely
speak
to
what
the
intent
on
that
end
was,
but
I
think,
from
our
perspective,
we
just
wanted
to
make
clear
that,
if
there's
something
that's
not
specifically
addressed
in
278a
but
generally
within
the
authority
of
cities
to
adopt
an
ordinance
if
it's
authorized
under
278,
it's
okay,
that's
basically
the
intention
of
that
provision.
B
I
I
think
that
we
did,
but
it
was
just
basically
trying
to
expand
on
that
and
make
that
clear
that
the
general
zoning
authority
within
278
would
be.
I
H
E
Thank
you
senator.
You
know
this
is
michael
tassie.
Thank
you
santa
rio
for
your
question.
Through
the
chair,
donderon
loop,
we
were
hesitant
to
provide
an
exhaustive
list
of
administrative
changes.
The
idea
was
that
they
would
give
the
jurisdictions
the
ability
to
define
what
that
what
that
was.
E
I
Okay,
just
a
quick
clarifying
question,
because
what
I,
because
what
I'm
trying
to
understand,
is-
and
I
know
you
guys
said-
lcb
put
it
in
there's
a
lot
of
without
limitation,
and
so
when
I
see-
and
I
and
I
know
what
you're
saying
your
intent
is,
but
13
ties
into
section
three
right.
H
I
I
You
guys
were
okay
with
that,
but
without
limitation
dragged
in
several
other
categories
or
things
that
could
then
be
in
the
plan,
then
you
have
your
ordinance
provision
in
section
three
which
allows
you
to
set
forth
the
provisions
around
the
application
for
the
plan,
which
must
include
without
limitation
the
procedures,
and
so
I
guess
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
the
expansion,
because
there
is
an
expansion
and
what
that
then
is
the
real
life.
I
E
This
is
michael
tassie
to
senator
neil
through
through
the
chair.
E
E
Give
the
cities
the
ability
to
adopt
the
ordinance
to
establish
what
that
is,
and
then,
on
top
of
that
still
preserve
and
actually
bloodline.
We
state
that
the
appeal
ability
of
nrs
278
still
exists,
and
so,
if
our
interpretation
of
what
minor
isn't
agreed
with
by
fellow
landowners
within.
G
E
They
have
the
opportunity
to
appeal
that
decision
and,
and
the
city
also
has
the
opportunity
to
deny
that
minor
modification
of
a
pud.
If
we
don't
agree
that
it
meets
that
that
intent.
A
My
pleasure
to
have
you
ask
questions.
I
have
questions
on
the
same
area.
Other
questions
from
the
committee
vice
chair
orange
hall.
Please
go
ahead.
G
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
senator
lang
for
presenting
the
bill
a
couple
of
quick
questions.
I'm
looking
at
the
amended
copy,
the
amendment
proposed
by
city
of
henderson
and
on
page
two
at
the
bottom,
there's
the
the
green
language
and
then
the
red
language,
and
it
starts
with
if
the
ordinance
requires
both
tentative
and
final
approval
of
the
plan.
G
Reservation
must,
as
far
as
practicable
the
further
price,
precise
location
of
the
common
open
space
until
an
application
for
final
approval
is
filed,
and
it
goes
on
with
that
that
deferral
of
the
location
of
the
common
space
changed
the
the
the
square
feet
or
the
acreage
of
the
common
space.
Or
would
that
still
be?
Would
that
not
change?
If
this
passes?
E
If
vice
chair,
michael
tassie,
through
through
through
the
chair,
the
orange
or
red
underlying
language
is
actually
language
that
exists
in
278a
now
we
are.
We
have
added
that
language
back
in
to
the
bill.
G
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
and
then,
if
I
can
turn
to
page
three,
the
the
deletion
there
at
section
5
sub
2
of
nrs
278
8.120,
the
deletion
of
if
the
ordinance
includes
provisions
to
set
aside
common
open
space,
and
then
I
I
wonder
if
you
could
just
I
guess-
maybe
I'm
a
little
confused
about
what's
being
deleted,
what's
being
returned,
could
you
just
explain
what
the
intent
is
on
that
part
of
section
five
at
the
top
of
page
three
of
the
conceptual
amendment.
H
Senator,
if
I
may
thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
meet.
F
H
Us
in
advance
of
today's
hearing
as
well.
We
really
appreciate
your
time
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
we
tried
to
use
the
coaching
that
lpd
sets
out
when
it
creates,
but
when
you
see
a
language
that's
struck
through
in
purple,
that
represents
the
language
that's
being
taken
out
and
then
the
orange
language
represents
language,
that's
being
put
back
in
from
the
existing
nrs.
But
when
you
see
this,
the
may,
for
instance,
in
sub
one
there
that
we
strike
that
was
language
we'd
originally
put
in
sb-138
as
energy.
H
We've
now
struck
that
length
and
returned
it
to
the
original.
It's
currently
in
our
in
our
structure.
It's
must
that's
drop
organism
which
reads:
if
the
ordinance
includes
provisions
to
set
aside
common
open
space,
it's
been
struck,
we've
removed
it
then,
in
the
amendment
from
the
bill,
and
now
the
amendment
would
restore,
must
include,
which
is
the
existing
language
here.
A
Thank
you
additional
questions.
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I'm
gonna.
It's
a
little
more
broad-based
just
looking
at
the
total.
The
whole
of
the
bill
and
the
intent
clearly
is
to
allow
then,
by
ordinance
to
change,
modify
a
pud
with
some
minor
minor
changes.
But
I
don't
see
anything
in
here.
Is
there
anything
that
triggers
when
you
would
in
fact
have
to
go
back,
maybe
because
of
a
public
outcry
or
all
right?
She
changed
it
from
from
pink
to
yellow
and
all
of
a
sudden,
you
had
a
huge
outcry
on
this
building.
H
Yeah,
thank
you
cooking,
senator
gogucci,
and
we
appreciate
you
taking
the
time
as
well
to
meet
with
us
in
advance
of
today's
bill
hearing.
If
I
may
ask
mr
tassie
or
a
member
of
our
planning
staff,
and
I
just
like
to
introduce,
we
have
both
greg
toth,
who
is
our
principal
planner
and
mr
eddie
dictor,
who
is
our
planning
manager
from
the
city
available
to
answer
questions
as
well,
so
any
of
the
gentlemen
in
the
room
or
amanda,
of
course,
our
city
attorney.
If
you'd
like
to
take
that
question,
I
defer
to
you.
Thank
you.
B
Amanda
curran
assistant
city
attorney
for
the
record
nrs
278
3195
requires
that
an
appeal
be
granted
for
administrative
decisions,
an
appeal
by
an
aggrieved
party.
G
A
Thank
you
very
much
additional
questions
from
the
committee.
A
I'd
like
to
ask
a
couple
and
then
committee
feel
free
to
jump
in.
One
of
the
questions
I
have
is
on
page
five
in
section
13.
Three,
it
a
it
says,
is
minor
in
nature
and
substantially
complies
with
the
approval
plan
so
who
gets
to
decide
what's
minor
and
who
gets
to
decide
what
substantially
complies
with
this.
H
Thank
you
chair
for
that
question
and
again
thank
you
as
well
for
meeting
with
us
and
advancing
today's
bill
gary.
We
really
appreciate
the
time
today
and
in
advance
of
the
hearing
I'm
going
to
refer
back
to
mr
tassie
or
his
planning
team,
or
his
current
in
our
city
hall.
If
they
wouldn't
mind
answering
that
question
for
the
chair.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
the
record,
michael
tessie.
The
idea
behind
the
bill
is
allow
the
cities
and
counties
to
adopt
the
orbits
so
that
they
can
make
the
decision
if
something
is
minor
in
nature
or
substantially
complies,
and
I
believe
the
substantially
complies
language
is
already
in
the
nrs.
It's
the
minor
in
nature
that
has
been
added,
as
we
talked
to
some
of
our
stakeholders.
A
Thank
you
and
the
other
question
I
have
is,
and
a
couple
of
these
are
questions
that
I
asked
when
we
spoke.
One
would
be
I
I
understand.
The
city
of
henderson
is
bringing
this
bill
forward.
Are
there
other
cities
that
want
this
or
I'm
sure,
we'll
hear
from
support?
But
what?
What
is?
Where
is
the?
A
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair
david
cherry
for
the
record
city
of
henderson.
I'm
going
to
again
refer
to
mr
tassie.
He
he
and
the
planning
department
really
were
the
genesis
of
this
bill
that
was
taken
then
to
senator
lang
who
was
kind
enough
to
sponsor
the
bill
at
our
request.
Mr
cassie,
if
you
don't
mind
kind
of
sharing
a
little
bit
more
about
the
intent
and
really
how
you
came
to
decide
that
this
was
a
change
that
would
be
beneficial
to
anderson.
H
E
Tassie
city
anderson,
for
the
record,
we
have
a
several
examples
of
how.
E
Ability
to
amend
a
pud
through
a
normal
process,
I'll
use
a
simple
example
of
a
car
wash
that
was
built
20
years
ago,
and
the
car
wash
was
of
a
certain
size
established
through
pud
and
the
owner
wanted
to
update
and
modernize
that
car
wash
and
therefore
expand
it,
and
so
his
his
increase
was
greater
than
10
of
the
size
of
that
existing
car
wash
behind
the
setback.
The
size
still
complied
with
our
development
code
and
would
have
been
approved
in
normal
course
in
a
non-pud
just
through
a
regular
administrative
process.
E
A
Thank
you
for
that.
So
with
that
being
said,
then,
if
this
is
something
that
affects
the
city
of
henderson
specifically
or
you
feel
a
need
to
change
it,
why
is
it
that
we
need
to
have
the
legislature
change
is
why
why
don't
we
just
specify
the
city
of
henderson
or
cities
of
that
size,
with
population
caps
on
one
side
of
the
other
or
geographic
locations?
A
H
Thank
you,
chair
david
cherry
for
the
record
city
of
henderson.
We
appreciate
you
sharing
that
comment
with
us
and
we
certainly
if
it
would
be
the
pleasure
of
the
chair
to
continue
to
change
of
that
nature.
We
would
certainly
be
happy
to
have
a
discussion
about
that.
H
We
felt
I
think,
upon
approaching
this,
that,
because
we
looking
at
a
statute,
does
affect
all
cities
and
counties
in
terms
of
those
who
have
puds,
we
felt
as
though
the
change
would
be
something
that
could
be
beneficial
to
anyone
who
chose
to
want
to
do
it.
We
thought
because
it
was
permissive
to
begin
with
that.
If
folks
enjoyed
this
the
procedure
they
now
had
in
place,
they
could
continue
to
use
them.
H
Our
goal
was
to
create
a
second
lane.
We
wanted
to
leave
the
existing
lane
in
place.
It's
now
in
nrs,
for
somebody
to
use
when
it
comes
to
making
a
minor
modification
into
pud
and
then
also
create
a
second
lane
that
those
who
wanted
to
do
so
through
a
new
ordinance
would
take
advantage
of
that
to
simplify
the
procedure.
I
think
if
you
refer
back
to
one
of
the
slides
that
mr
tassie
had
there,
you
may
remember
that
there
was
a
much
cumbersome
process
with
under
modification
in
a
pd
that
didn't
take
place.
H
It
took
place
in
the
pd
as
compared
to
one
of
the
two
plus
outside,
and
so
we
really
looked
at
that
thought
if
we
are
experiencing
that
many
many
other
cities
and
counties
around
the
state
must
also
be
the
experience
of
that.
But
again
go
back
to
where
I
started.
If
it
is
the
chair's
wish
that
we
look
at
putting
a
population
cap
in
this
bill
and,
of
course,
at
the
discretion
of
sponsor,
I
don't
wish
to
speak
for
senator
langford.
H
A
Thank
you,
mr
turian.
I
think
we
all
got
what
you
said,
but
you
are
breaking
up
just
a
little
bit
as
an
fyi.
I
believe
senator
neil
has
a
question.
I
H
H
E
For
the
record,
thank
you
for
the
question.
Through
the
chair,
the
a
resident
can
establish
a
grief
party
status
on
any
administrative
approval
here
in
the
city
of
henderson,
and
I
don't
want
to
make
any
assumptions
for
the
jurisdictions
that
resident
can
write
a
letter
in
in
opposition
of
any
change
that
is
made
to
that
community,
that
they
feel
has
affected
them
and
then
establish
that
agreeing
party
status
and
then
therefore
appeal
the
application.
I
Oh
thank
you
for
that,
because
then
that
leads
me
to
my
that
the
next
part,
which
is
the
same
a
second
part
to
that
question
in
section
14
sub
2
the
way
I
read
this
language,
where
it
says
that
the
ordinance
requires
both
tentative
and
final
approval.
It
sounds
like
it's
simultaneous,
so
I
had
a
question
about
the
timing
associated
with
the
approval
being
that
tentative
and
final
seem
like
it
could
happen
simultaneously
and
when
the
opportunity
would
exist
for
a
resident
to
grieve
a
process
that
has
become
final,
tentative
and
final.
H
K
Thank
you
senator
neil.
This
is
greg
toth
with
city
of
anderson,
the.
G
G
Has
a
public
hearing
included
in
it
and
the
final
approval
process
does
not,
it
would
be
recording
approving
a
tentative
map
and
then
following
it
up
by
recording
a
file
now
recording
a
final
nap.
G
Procedure
if
a
jurisdiction
uses
a
one-step
approval
process,
it's
as
though
you're
granting
the
time
to
map
the
tenant
of
approval
and
file
approval.
At
the
same
time,
like
you
said,
that's
where
the
public
hearing
is
there's
still
the
public
hearing-
and
this
is
this-
is
for
creating
a
new
plan
unit
development,
but
there's
still
planning
commission
and
city
council
public
hearings
at
both
and.
A
Thank
you
very
much
additional
questions
from
the
committee.
A
Okay,
all
right
well
see
no
more
questions
or
from
the
committee.
I
guess
I
will
ask
senator
lange
any
follow-up
from
you.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
would
just
close
by
saying
I
think
this
bill
gives
the
needed
flexibility
to
the
cities
in
the
county
when
it
comes
to
approving
minor
modifications,
and
it
will
help
modernize
the
section
of
the
interest,
that's
50
years
old,
and
I
think
it
will
be
a
more
streamlined
process
that
will
be
better
for
everyone.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
so
we
will
now
go
to
support
opposition
and
neutral
as
a
reminder
that
all
testifiers
have
two
minutes,
and
you
are
welcome
to
submit
more
comprehensive
testimony
in
writing.
So
broadcasting
is
there
anyone
on
the
line
who
would
like
to
testify
and
support.
F
F
J
Good
afternoon,
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
nick
vanderpool,
nick
v-a-n-d-e-r-p-o-e-l
with
capital
partners
today
representing
the
city
of
burnley
today,
the
city
of
burnley,
is
in
support
of
senate
bill
138
late
last
night,
while
I
was
trying
to
figure
out
consolidated
tax.
Mr
cherry
shared
the
proposed
amendment
for
sb
138,
in
which
the
city's
planning
department
had
the
opportunity
to
review
earlier
today
as
a
growing
community
in
northern
nevada.
We
had
early
concerns
about
its
impact
to
the
city
and
our
ability
to
modify
the
existing
plan
development
ordinance.
J
F
G
This
is
a
common
sense
bill
that
really
captures,
obviously
not
everything
that
we
hoped
would
be
included
in
administrative
process,
but
certainly
that
80,
where
we
can
all
agree
that
it's
probably
appropriate
for
an
administrative
process
and
so
again
just
want
to
express
our
support
and
appreciation
for
senator
lang
and
all
her
hard
work
on
this
bill
and
and
really
urge
the
committee
to
consider
its
passage.
Thank
you.
J
Madam
chair
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record
callie
wilson
with
the
city
of
reno,
my
name
is
c-a-l-l-I
w-I-l-s
and
sam
e-y.
We
are
here
in
support
of
sb
138.
Today
we
appreciate
the
bill
sponsors
for
bringing
this
forward
and
for
the
city
of
henderson
working
with
us
on
the
effort
in
this
bill.
We
know
there
were
a
lot
of
stakeholders
involved
and
we
appreciate
the
proactive
outreach
in
advance
of
the
hearing.
J
F
F
C
C
The
league
is
in
support
of
sb
138
and
we
appreciate
the
work
of
the
sponsor
to
bring
this
bill
forward
and
the
distinguished
members
of
the
senate
government
affairs
committee
for
hearing
it.
This
bill
is
a
thoughtful
and
permissive
adjustment
to
existing
law.
Henderson
and
other
nevada
jurisdictions
have
many
existing
and
old
plan
unit
developments
that
are
often
amended
with
relatively
minor
changes,
but
the
current
statute
can
make
the
process
burdensome
both
for
the
applicants
and
municipal
planning
departments
under
sb
138.
C
Each
jurisdiction
would
be
empowered
to
set
their
own
standards
for
amending
puds,
but
basic
requirements
are
left
intact.
If
approved,
jurisdictions
would
be
able
to
outline
their
own
approval
process
through
ordinance.
We
would
not
have
statute
outline
the
approval
process,
particularly
for
amendments
to
puds.
Again.
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair,
for
your
attention
and
allowing
my
statement
of
support.
F
F
J
J
A-R-I-E-L-L-E-E-D-W-A-R-D-S
with
the
city
of
north
las
vegas,
specifying
in
support
of
senate
bill
138,
we
appreciate
the
bill
sponsors
for
bringing
this
forward.
We
believe
this
bill,
modernizes,
antiquated
nrs
language
and
streamlines
the
process
for
minor
modifications.
This
will
provide
the
city
with
more
flexibility
and
ownership
with
our
own
local
ordinances.
In
regards
to
puds,
which
we
appreciate,
we
are
aligned
with
the
amendment
language
brought
forth
by
the
city
of
henderson
and
want
to
thank
them
for
their
efforts
on
this
bill.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
your
time.
F
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Can
we
move
to
opposition
please.
F
J
Good
afternoon
chair
members
of
the
committee,
this
is
josh
hicks
h-I-c-k-s,
with
mcdonald
carano,
testifying
on
behalf
of
the
builders
association
of
northern
nevada
band
is
the
advocacy
organization
for
the
home
building
industry
in
the
northern
part
of
the
state
testifying
in
opposition
today,
but
I
believe
only
in
hopefully
temporary
opposition.
We
really
only
had
one
issue
with
the
as
introduced
version
of
the
bill,
and
that
was
the
deletion
of
some
landowner
consent
provisions
in
section
21..
J
J
A
Thank
you
very
much
with
that
being
said,
we'll
close
that
part
of
the
testimony,
but
I
do
believe
senator
neil
did
you
still
have
a
question.
I
think
I
missed
you
as
we
went
through
that.
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
do
so,
mr
cherry,
you
know
there's
just
something
that
I
can't
put
my
finger
on
in
this
bill,
and
so
I
heard
the
testimony
that
you
know
and
I
saw
the
powerpoint
which
was
like
okay,
you
have
old
malls,
I'm
wondering
where
the
old
malls
are
in
henderson,
but
is
this
trying
to
get
at
any
other
space
like
you
know
back
in,
I
think
it
was
2017
2019
the
royal
links,
the
badlands
golf
course
all
right
is
this.
H
Senator
neil
david
cherry
for
the
record
city
of
henderson,
I
do
appreciate
your
question
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
that.
First
off.
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
we
as
we
envisioned
it
it
does
have
a
broad
applicability.
H
You
know
the
areas
that
we're
speaking,
I
think
mr
tassie
use
the
example
of
sears.
I
think
we
have
some
big
fox
retailers.
I
think
you'll
find
them
in
many
locations
around
the
valley,
including
in
the
city
of
henderson
places
like
that
had
been
where
toys
r
us
were
located.
Sears
kmart
other
types
of
retailers
that
have
now
gone
out
of
business,
we're
looking
at
vacant
space
that
we
would
like
to
see.
H
Repurposed
as
it
relates
to
the
question
of
golf
courses,
and
I
would
invite
mr
tassie
or
member
visting
to
speak
further
to
this.
I
do
know
that
in
the
city
of
henderson
we
do
not
use
puds
for
our
golf
course
community.
So,
in
the
case
of
the
city
of
henderson,
it
would
not
be
applicable.
That
was
not
the
reason
that
we
brought
the
bill.
I
know
that
there
may
have
been
some
questions
that
have
been
asked,
perhaps
of
many
members,
so
we're
happy
to
speak
to
that
further.
E
E
The
short
answer
to
your
question
is
no.
There
is.
There
is
no
intent
for
this
to
apply
to
golf
courses.
In
fact,
the
the
residential
or
the
removal
of
some
of
the
residential
provisions
that
were
in
nrs
278as
proposed
have
been
removed
primarily
for
that
purpose,
so
that
there
was
no,
you
typically
golf.
E
Wouldn't
allow
that,
and
as
david
it
had
indicated,
mr
cherry
had
indicated.
E
I
No,
I
I
I
appreciate
that
you
putting
the
intent
because
it
is
expansive
and
there
is
a
without
limitation
piece
in
there.
So
just
I
just
wanted
to
ask
the
question:
put
it
out
there,
because
I
was
thinking
it
so
thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
senator
neil,
all
right
I
will
now.
Finally,
if
we
are,
I
think,
we're
out
of
questions
and
we've
done
our
testimony.
So
senator
lange,
do
you
have
any
closing
remarks.
A
Thank
you
and
thank
you
to
the
city
of
henderson
for
joining
us
today.
I
will
now
close
the
hearing
on
senate
bill
138
and
I'll
open
the
hearing
on
senate
bill
180..
This
measure
revises
provisions
relating
to
fire
prevention
and
I
think
we
have
senator
sivers
cancer
and.
A
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
the
record
senator
heidi
sievers
cancer,
representing
senate
district
15
in
northern
nevada,
and
I
am
here
to
present
to
help
present
senate
bill
180.
with
me.
I
have
dr
graham
kent,
who
is
director
of
the
nevada,
seismological
laboratory
and
professor
in
the
department
of
geological
services
and
engineering
at
the
university
of
nevada
reno.
I
also
have
keith
lee
and
then
not
presenting
but
available
for
questions.
Is
our
state
forester
fire,
warden,
casey
casey.
B
The
reason
I
I
brought
this
to
the
legislature
is
that
I
was
made
aware
of
the
alert
wildfire
system
when
I
was
at
the
university
of
nevada,
reno
and
we've
had
a
number
of
fires
here
in
northern
nevada
and
during
those
fires
I
was
able
to
log
on,
and
anybody
can
log
on.
That's
a
public
domain
to
to
see
where
fires
are
located
because
they
put
eyes
basically
sensors
and
cameras
on
top
of
mountaintops
around
lake
tahoe
basin
and
the
reno
area.
They've
also
done
it
in
other
states,
but
we're
pretty
well
covered.
B
So
when
there's
a
fire
that
starts
in
our
area,
we
know
very
very
quickly
and
as
as
someone
who
lives
on
the
edge
of
the
tv
national
forest,
I
can
tell
you.
I've
pulled
it
up
a
number
of
times
to
see
which
direction
the
wind
is
blowing.
If
my
home
is
potentially
threatened
and
some
of
the
fires
we've
had
like
the
clone
ranch
fire,
we've
had
the
fire
and
little
valley
and
so
forth.
B
A
Thank
you
senator
and
welcome
to
dr
kent.
Please
go
ahead
when
you're
ready.
K
Okay
yeah.
Thank
you,
chair
loop
and
again
thank
you,
senator
seaver's
cancer,
and
so
hopefully
I'll
get
this
right.
We
tried
it
once
and
let's
see
there,
you
go
so
practice
makes
perfect.
Hopefully
again,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
inviting
me
to
testify
on
set
bill.
180.
K
I'm
here
today,
as
vice
president
of
wildfire,
live
I'll.
Explain
that
to
you
in
a
moment,
but
a
picture
speaks
a
thousand
words,
and
this
was
a
imagery
from
the
numbers
fire
this
last
summer.
Many
of
you
know
about
that
fire,
and
this
was
a
newly
installed
nv
energy
camera
and
we're
thankful
that
nv
energy
is
now
supporting
this
program,
and
this
did
a
couple
things.
K
It
was
basically
caught
early
on
and
allowed
the
firefighters,
be
it
whether
they're
from
the
east
fork
fire
blm
ndf
as
casey
ckc,
knows,
and
also
potentially,
the
the
humble
taiami
that
allowed
them
to
size
up
the
fire
and
and
respond
appropriately,
and
this
was
a
bit
of
a
dicey
situation,
because
it
was
a
very
explosive
fire
behavior
and
there
were
homes
and
people,
and
the
thing
that
you
might
not
understand
is
that
it
also
allowed
folks
at
nd
energy
to
essentially
look
at
this
picture
and
understand
how
they're
going
to
de-electrify
the
area
in
a
way
that
wasn't
with
a
sledgehammer,
because
you
just
don't
want
to
you-
know,
knock
down
power
all
the
way
to
carson
city
right.
K
K
Alert
wildfire
is
a
university
consortium
between
nevada,
uc,
san,
diego
and
oregon,
and
there's
a
little
plus
sign
now
because
of
our
success
and
the
sheer
demand.
Through
the
university,
we
were
able
to
spin
out
a
c-corp
called
wildfire
live,
and
this
is
to
help
scale
our
operations
literally
around
the
west
and
around
the
world,
as
we,
you
will
soon
find
out
in
australia.
You'll
hear
you'll
hear
something
in
about
a
month,
but
it
really
started
with
one
camera,
thanks
to
fundraising
from
the
tahoe
prosperity
center.
K
The
first
camera
was
in
nevada,
and
so
that
was
appropriate
about
snow
valley
peak
and
we
also
with
that
ngo
and
the
blm
nevada
and
folks
from
the
el
dorado
and
lake
town.
Basement
management
unit
started
alert,
tahoe
and
it
really
started
to
take
off
and
by
2018
we
had
85
cameras
and,
and
then,
as
you
know,
in
2017
and
18,
it
was
pretty
catastrophic
in
california,
and
we've
been
growing
like
cane
busters.
K
K
If
you
know
that
and
we'll
be
punching
through
the
thousand
camera
mark
here
next
summer,
so
between
this
consortium,
why
are
fire
services
wanting
to
do
this
and
one
of
the
things
I
always
when
I
talk
to
folks
outside
of
california
or
not?
California?
That's
the
other
49
states,
there's
always
a
sense
of
like
wow.
K
Things
are
really
bad
in
in
california,
but
we're
not
california,
and
that
may
be
true
in
many
ways,
but
it's
not
in
fire
behavior,
and
if
we
just
look
at
the
bottom
of
the
screen,
this
was
last
october
in
colorado.
K
K
In
oregon,
they
burned
about
a
million
acres
in
several
weeks,
really
record
record
fires
throughout
the
west
and
and
the
reason
why
we
want
to
put
out
as
senator
sievers
ganzer
mentioned,
is
it's
really
the
eyes
on
the
fire
or
maybe
think
about
it
as
the
the
21st
century
fire
lookout
where
we
invite
not
only
folks
like
the
state
forester,
but
also
the
public,
and
the
first
thing
we
want
to
do
is
reduce
the
response
time
to
wildfires.
We
want
to
get
on
top
of
them
fast
because
things
are
really
explosive.
K
Those
resources
up
or
down
within
seconds
of
confirmation
and
or
discovery
you
get
one
chance
to
knock
that
fire
out
and
if
it
takes
another
10
20
30
40
minutes
60
minutes
before
you
get
eyes
on
the
fire,
you're
not
going
to
know
whether
you
need
to
throw
everything
at
it
or
back
off
and
so
that
whole
size
up
or
scale
up
is
super
important.
Once
that
happens,
you
get
to
see
fire
behavior.
K
This
is
really
critically
important
for
firefighter
safety
and
in
some
explosive
unfortunate
fires
it
can
save
lives
with
timely
evacuation
and
for
those
of
you
who
remember
the
tunnel
fire
in
oakland,
what
you
might
not
know
is
that
fire
was
put
out
until
it
blew
back
up
so
you'll
see
our
cameras
parked
on
fires
for
several
days
after
they're
put
out,
because
we
don't
want
to
have
it
re-flare
up
and
no
one
see
it
fast
enough.
K
So
really
these
five
things
have
led
to
really
a
different
way
that
we
respond
to
fires
throughout
the
west.
So
what
does
it
really
look
like?
Here's?
Just
some
amazing
footage
of
three
fire
starts
that
were
actually
discovered
and
called
into
sierra
front
back
in
2016,
the
thule
rock
and
seven
lakes
fire,
and
one
of
the
things
that
really
allowed
them
to
do
is
which
one
do
you
hit
right?
K
So
you
see
these
three
three
lightning
strike
fires
and
the
fire
to
the
left
is
the
rock
fire,
and
so
when
they
sized
up
the
fire
and
responded,
they
had
to
go
there
first,
because
it
was
impinging
on
some
homes
for
those
folks
that
live
in
the
wireland
urban
interface
and
and
so
there
were
no
homes
lost
during
that
fire
and
again,
what
does
20
30
minutes
buy
you?
K
K
It
also
gives
you
asset
protection
for
those
of
you
not
familiar
with
virginia
peak,
that
big
golf
ball
and
the
tower
is
the
faa
radar
done
for
the
airport.
So
if
you
like
to
fly
in
and
out
of
reno,
which
most
of
us
like
to
do,
you
don't
want
that
destroyed
or
a
lot
of
the
infrastructure
connecting
to
it.
K
So
this
was
a
picture
during
the
perry
fire,
and
this
was
the
camera
was
pointed
by
paul
peterson
who's,
the
blm
state,
fire
management
officer,
four
seconds
into
a
point
and
they're
basically
doing
asset
protection
on
top
of
virginia
peak,
including
the
big
golf
ball
up
there.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
can
keep
not
only
people
and
home
safe,
but
there's
a
critical
asset
protection
out
there.
We
need
to
take
care
of
so
when
the
wheels
go
off
the
bus,
like
I
don't
think
anyone's
seen
ever.
K
It
happened
during
this
lightning
siege
in
california
and
I'll
talk
about
that
in
a
minute.
But
here's
examples
of
the
the
beginning
of
the
august
complex
fire,
one
of
several
fires
that
merged
became
california's
first
gigafire.
You
don't
want
to
know
what
that
word
is,
but
what
it
means
is
a
million
acres.
Can
we
have
a
million
acre
fire
in
nevada?
Yes,
we
can.
We
had
the
martin
fire
that
was
a
little
over
four
hundred
thousand.
K
So
again,
gigafires
the
lightning
strike
below
is
part
of
the
five
or
six
fires
that
coalesce
for
the
lnu
complex
fire
and
we
had
all
of
those
starts
nailed
the
big
problem.
There
is
when
you
start
376
fires
in
12
hours,
you
run
out
of
planes,
you
run
out
of
trucks,
you
run
out
of
people
and
now
you're
playing
a
different
game
you're
in
triage
mode.
This
is
an
example
of
our
website.
K
Unfortunately,
in
this
situation
became
this
triage
tool
to
figure
out
what
to
do
for
life,
safety,
there's
habitat
protection
and
things,
for
example,
in
nevada,
can
kind
of
get
a
little
sideways
if
we
start
destroying
a
lot
of
sage-grouse
habitat,
and
this
is
early
on
from
midas
peak
and
before
we
had
a
big
network,
but
we
had
one
that
one
might
speak
at
the
time.
This
is
a
hot
pot
fire
think
of
burning
three
acres,
a
second
or
over
a
football
field.
K
Every
second
looks
more
like
a
volcano
as
a
geologist
and
a
seismologist.
K
If
someone
showed
me
that
ten
years
ago,
I
would
thought
it
was
an
interruption,
it
was,
it
was
just
a
wildfire
type
and
again
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we
keep
habitat
safe
for
the
critters
that
live
there
in
the
plants,
but
we
also
have
range
land
issues
and
mining
issues
that
could
be
curtailed
if
we
start
having
gigafires
around
nevada,
which
we
don't
want.
K
Obviously,
the
next
day
this
was
kind
of
a
first
and
folks,
not
only
in
nevada,
but
also
up
at
the
nifty
center
in
boise
were
watching
the
attack
to
save
the
town
of
midas,
and
you
can
see
a
foster
check
there
and
literally
it
was
like
the
fire
management
officers,
pulled
up
in
a
chariot
looking
over
midas
and
could
direct
the
planes
on
the
strikes
and
to
save
the
town.
So
that's
that's
modern
firefighting
in
many
ways,
so,
okay,
fire
cameras,
cost
money,
firefighting
costs
money.
So
how
do
we
offset
that?
K
And
so
here's
an
example
in
california,
where
you
might
save
a
couple
billion
dollars?
You
did
it
twice
in
two
years.
This
is
the
lilac
fire
the
day
that
will
live
in
infamy
in
san
diego
county.
It
was
december
7th
2017..
K
K
San
diego
county
is
home
to
the
cedar
and
witch
fires
that
burn
well
over
200,
000
acres,
a
lot
of
lost
lives
and
homes,
and-
and
yet
this
day
was
worse,
here's
a
picture
with
a
little
circle
around
it
of
the
first
smoke
plume
about
35
seconds
after
the
chief
miesha
cal
fire
literally
push
out
all
43
trucks
in
three
minutes
based
on
that
intel,
they
never
do
that
unless
they
had
cameras
throughout
the
county,
realizing
that
there
were
no
other
fire
starts
on
this
grim
fire
condition
day.
K
K
But
you
know
in
the
modern
new
normal
we
get
many
chances
and
here's
a
house
fire
ready
to
jump
in
the
wee
a
couple
of
years
later
and
lo
and
behold
before
the
first
fire
trucks
put
it
out.
This
sdg
e
sky,
crane,
helico
helicopter,
knocked
the
fire
down
based
on
early
intel.
K
If
there's
a
proud
moment
in
my
career,
it
would
be
this
day
the
rest
of
it
I
could
chuck.
This
was
a
king
cape
fire
in
2019
started
during
one
of
three
back-to-back-to-back
diablos.
It
was
a
really
a
template.
Fire
for
the
tub
tops
fire
in
the
sense
it
was
just
a
little
bit
to
the
north
tubbs
fire.
There
was
no
intel
for
three
hours.
K
Things
were
crazy:
they
lost
5,
600
structures,
22
deaths,
look
what
happened
with
the
concave
fire,
374
structures
and
zero
deaths,
and
that
can
be
attributed
in
large
part
to
having
intel
from
seven
cameras
from
the
moment
of
ignition,
and
that's
what
that
scary
night
looks
like
they
evacuated.
100,
000,
plus
people
off
that
mountain
side
and
again
not
a
single
injury,
nor
loss
of
life
and
the
loss
of
structure
was
very
minimal
for
the
size
of
the
fire
and
and
that's
the
new
normal
or
the
new
extreme.
K
So
presently
we
have
42
alert,
wildfire
cameras
in
in
nevada.
We
already
have
funding
through
blm
and
nv
energy.
We
have
24
more
fire
cameras
on
the
hook
and
you
can
see
that
in
the
two
boxes
in
the
center
and
to
the
left
and
then
over
the
last
several
years,
working
with
folks
in
casey
casey's
office
and
blm
nevada,
we
went
through
the
state
and
tried
to
figure
out.
K
Where
are
the
holes
in
the
network
that
potentially
the
state
could
help
out
like
is
happening
in
california,
where
there's
a
little
bit
of
everybody
chipping
in,
and
so
we
came
out
with
a
list
of
about
15
sites
and
again
it
would
cost
about
one
and
a
half
million
over
two
years.
Again,
that's
a
lot
of
money,
but
remember
when
you
start
buying
planes
and
their
costs
are
in
the
tens
of
thousands
or
forty
fifty
thousand
an
hour
and
there's
multiple
planes.
Things
start
to
get
expensive
very
fast,
not
surprisingly.
K
Well
maybe
a
little
bit
surprisingly.
But
a
lot
of
the
early
action
was
located
in
the
central
and
northwestern
portion
of
nevada,
and
so
if
we
were
to
go
back-
and
I
won't
I'll
spare
you.
But
if
you
go
back
to
that
proposed
list,
we
have
many
more
sites
in
the
southern
part
of
nevada.
K
Nba
energy
is
also
helping
out.
In
that
regard,
we
have
sites
like
mount
charleston.
That
is
a
very
has
the
potential
of
a
large
loss
of
life.
So
we
definitely
want
to
not
pretend
like
the
only
hazard
in
the
state
is
in
the
center
and
the
north,
and
also
last
year,
the
eastern
side.
The
southeastern
side
of
the
state
had
very
extreme
fire
behavior,
and
it's
really
setting
up
for
another
bad
year
in
the
southeast,
and
we
have
several
blm
cameras
going
in
there
as
well.
K
Again,
we
just
want
to
highlight
and
I'll
just
do
it
briefly,
but
you
know
this
network's
out
there
really
trying
to
bend
back
the
curve
of
these
crazy
fire
conditions
that
we're
seeing
that
seem
to
get
worse
every
year
and
nevada
is
is,
is
not
california,
but
you
all
can
have
fire
conditions.
Just
like
california,
and
places
like
to
the
north
galena
down
south
mount
charleston
spring
creek
by
elko.
You
can
have
very
catastrophic
events
under
the
right
conditions
and
not
rare
conditions
I'll
state
again.
K
So
that's
why
we're
here
and
again
for
for
a
win
for
the
university
in
commercialization,
is
that
we've
been
so
successful
that
we
have
kind
of
had
to
go
that
route
and
work
in
tandem
with
the
university
and
you'll
find
out
again
more
about
some
work,
that's
going
on
in
australia
and
here's
the
fun
part
of
the
cameras
when
things
aren't
burning
up.
K
K
The
life
flight
folks
are
using
our
cameras
all
over
the
west,
to
do
that.
National
weather
service
loves
our
cameras
for
better
prediction
of
weather,
and
sometimes
it's
just
birds
and
albino
elk
and
people
love
birds
and,
as
you
see
to
the
right,
there's
a
california
condor
and
up
to
the
left.
If
you
look
carefully,
one
of
the
elk
is,
is
an
albino
elk
up
on
cape
mountain
in
eastern
nevada.
So
again,
thank
you
for
this
time
to
highlight
some
buses
and
where
we'd
like
to
go
next.
So
thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
dr
kent
and
madam
chair.
The
the
bill
really
is
just
and
has
enabling
language
to
allow
our
forester
fire
warden
to
purchase
the
type
of
equipment
that
has
just
been
described
and,
as
was
mentioned
by
dr
kent,
we
have
some
needs
significant
needs
in
southern
nevada
and
some
in
eastern
nevada,
and
I
think
western
nevada
is
pretty
well
covered
right
now,
so
this
is
really
to
to
look
towards
the
entire
state.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Senator
stevens
cancer
questions
from
the.
A
Madam
committee,
senator
neil
please
thank
you.
I
B
Thank
you
for
the
record,
senator
heidi
seaver's
cancer,
so
this
bill
actually
doesn't
have
any
money
in
it
and
I
think
our
state
forester
fireward
can
probably
answer
questions,
but
I
believe
that
we
get
quite
a
bit
of
federal
dollars
and
when
I
used
to
sit
on
ways
and
means
I
know,
we'd
have
these
fires
and
then
we'd
have
money
that
was
would
reimburse
some
of
the
costs
of
those
fires,
but
I
also
think
we
get
some
money,
that
is
for
we're
adding
prevention,
but
we
have
forest
and
watershed
management,
so
the
state
forester
fireward,
casey
casey,
can
probably
answer
that
question
best.
L
Thank
you
for
the
question
senator
neil
madam
chair.
Through
you
yeah.
We
don't
this.
This
particular
one
doesn't
have
any
funding.
Currently,
however,
we
do
have
money
through
an
nv
energy
contract
and
are
matching
sb
508
funds
through
the
state
we
had
put
in
some
cameras
into
that
both
contracts
on
the
the
energy
side
and
sb
508.
L
In
addition,
we
a
lot
of
our
grant
funding
comes
through
the
us
forest
service
and
we're
always
looking
for
ways
to
look
for
preventative
methods
for
for
wildfire,
detection
and
and
other
equipment
that
may
be
necessary
to
help.
So
so
we
do
have
small
amounts
of
funds.
Obviously
I
don't
think
we
have
1.5
million
dollars
sitting
here
right
now,
but
we
we're
always
looking
for
that.
So
if
the
language
is
in
the
bill,
then
we
can
push
that
money
out
to
these
cameras
quickly.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
senator
additional
questions,
so
vice
chair
orange
all
please.
G
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
senator
sievers
cancer.
For
presenting
the
bill.
I
think
my
question
would
go
to
either
the
the
two
witnesses
if
this
bill
passed.
Would
it
also
cover
you
know,
non-fixed
cameras?
Would
it
cover
technology
like
cameras
and
airplanes
or
drones
or
satellite
technology
trying
to
monitor
for
forest
fires,
or
would
it
just
be
fixed
cameras
on
towers.
K
I
I
this
is
a
graham
kent
for
the
record
I'll
jump
in
on
my
presentation.
Right
now.
It's
just
fix
cameras
on
towers,
but
there's
a
whole
ecosystem
out
there.
Right
now,
where
we
are
already
pulling
from
goes.
16
goes
17
as
a
backstop
for
when
we
don't
have
a
camera
or
if
everything
kind
of
gets
lost
in
in
in
in
in
something
someone's
not
calling
in
it's
not
being
detected.
K
So
these
cameras
plug
into
a
lot
of
other
things
in
the
techno
space
that
really
allow
you
to
address
the
question
that
it's
more
than
just
the
cameras
themselves,
and
so
they
play
a
critical
part
but
they're,
not
the
only
part
and
and
and
I'm
sure
of
the
state
forester
would
like
me
to
say
this.
K
They,
the
cameras,
also
play
a
very
critical
part
on
fuel
reductions
being
able
to
monitor,
prescribed
burns,
and-
and
so,
if
you
look
this
last
year,
there's
a
whole
bevy
throughout
the
west
because
of
the
conditions
of
a
lot
of
really
fuel
reduction,
which
is
great
because
that's
another
step
in
prevention
and
the
reason
I
bring
that
up
is
it
also
is
training
our
ai
algorithms.
K
So
the
more
fake
fires
we
have,
or
at
least
prescribed
fires,
the
more
we
can
put
ai
on
these
cameras
and
get
better
and
not
always
have
to
rely
on
9-1-1.
We
can
also
kind
of
have
that
you
know
the
machine
start
to
help
us
out
and
we
have
pilot
projects
in
doing
that
over
in
california
right
now,
so
thank
you.
B
Man,
I'm
sure,
if
I
can
add,
please
go
ahead
for
the
record,
senator
heidi
c
sievers
gansard
and
to
answer
your
question
vice
chair,
orton,
charles
this
language
is
broad
and
technology
will
evolve.
So
this
language
is
broad
enough
to
cover
what's
been
described
today,
but
beyond
that,
because
it
really
is
about
the
equipment,
necessary
and
cameras
for
early
warning
and
detection.
So
I
think
the
language
is
broad
enough,
so
as
technology
changes
so
can
the
use
of
the
funds.
A
Thank
you
very
much
additional
questions.
Senator
hansen.
C
Thanks
manager,
actually,
the
question
at
vice
chair
orange
hall,
just
brought
up
kind
of
stimulated
a
thought,
the
the
the
advances
in
satellite
technology,
I'm
almost
wondering
senator
caesar
sievers
ganson,
pointed
out.
This
is
flexible.
I'm
just
kind
of
wondering,
dr
kent.
The
changes
in
in
satellite
technology
in
in
a
weird
way
is
going
to
make
cameras
like
this
almost
archaic
in
the
future.
C
K
Okay
thanks,
I
guess
I'll
make
two
points
on
that
one.
The
go
716-17
satellite
pair
is
pretty
sophisticated
and,
having
said
that
in
the
southern
california
test
bed
this
last
year,
the
average
detection
time
for
the
satellite
is
anywhere
between
about
15
and
45
minutes.
K
The
average
911
call
is
about
four
to
eight
minutes
in
california,
so
only
the
satellite
only
beat
cameras,
911
plus
cameras,
only
one
fire
all
last
summer,
and
then
once
you
have
that
detection,
whether
it's
from
a
I
on
a
land-based
camera
or
the
satellite,
then
it's
detected,
and
so
what
the
the
reason
why
the
land-based
satellites
aren't
ever
going
to
go
away?
Is
you
get
this
critical
situational
awareness
where
you
can
understand
how
the
fuel
is
reacting
to
the
fire?
K
How
the
wind's
setting
up
you
might
have
shear
in
two
different
levels:
you'd,
never
see
that
from
the
satellite.
So,
but
with
as
bad
as
fire
is
today.
It's
kind
of
you
know
everybody
chips
in
every
technology,
because
it's
just
it's
just
really
bad.
So
hopefully
that
answered
your
question
and
that
was
graham
kent
for
the
record.
C
I
did
answer
my
question.
One
follow-up.
You
mentioned
fuels
reduction,
which
seems
to
be
something
that
we're
kind
of
way
behind
the
times
on
I
mean
having
watched
these
fires.
I
remember
the
first
million
acre
fire
just
like
yesterday
in
1999
here
in
nevada
and
and
then
you
had
in
the
2000s
a
whole
series
of
years
where
we
burned
over
a
million
acres
repeatedly
in
nevada,
and
I
know
the
blm
is
working
on
that.
C
But
you
know
it's
not
part
of
the
bill,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
get
a
little
plug
in.
We
need
to
do
some
pretty
dramatic
reductions
in
fuels,
whether
it's
livestock
logging,
whatever
we've
gotta
we've,
got
to
make
some
serious
advances.
What
I'm
scared
to
death
of
honestly
is
a
paradise
type
fire.
You
know
wind
conditions,
everything
raw,
just
just
right,
just
wrong.
C
I
guess
you
should
say
in
the
lake
tahoe
basin,
you
know
when
you
go
and
you
look
at
those
fires
from
the
paradise
and
you
watch
that
tree
top
burning.
You
know
crown
burning
across
across
the
whole
thing
like
that:
burning
up
that
city,
you
know
killing
people,
I
mean
the
possibilities
for
that
in
the
tahoe
base.
Just
scares
the
heck
out
of
me,
but
anyway,
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
I
think
it's
a
great
bill
sounds
like
we're
on
the
right
track,
so
all
for
it
thanks.
Madam
chair.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
additional
questions,
so
I
have
a
I
have
a
couple.
One
is,
and
I
don't
know
whether
dr
ken
or
casey
or
who
wants
to
answer
this.
How
do
you
know
how
this
shortens
your
response
time
I
mean.
I
know
you
know
that,
but
what
give
me
a
little
bit
of
a
like
instead
of
five
hours
response
time
now,
it's
two
hours
or
instead
of
three
days
it's
one
day
like
give
me
some
perspective
there,
so
that
I
can
understand
I've.
A
I've
seen
many
of
these
pictures
from
the
smoky
the
bear.
That
is
my
brother,
but
I
am
just
curious
about
some
of
the
things
that
I
hear
from
his
voice.
As
these
years
have
gone
by
of
fires,.
L
For
the
record
casey
casey,
we
use
these
cameras
in
our
dispatch
center,
so
when
that
call
goes
into
9-1-1,
our
dispatch
centers
and
many
of
our
state
fmos
ourselves,
the
blm.
The
forest
service
can
turn
those
cameras
to
make
sure
or
other
cameras.
That
may
have
a
better
view
in
our
response.
Time
is
shortened
well
and
it's
not
just
the
shortened
response
time,
but
it's
also
when
we
can
see
where
it
is
so.
One
of
the
issues
with
9-1-1
is
many.
L
People,
including
myself,
are
directionally
challenged
and
maybe
don't
know
exactly
where
they
are
or
what
hilltop
they're
looking
at.
So
that's
always
been
a
challenge
for
our
dispatch
centers
to
find
exactly
where
that
point
of
origin
is
so
we
send
things
out
and
they
don't
necessarily
land
in
the
right
spot.
So
this
helps
us
to
know
once
the
once
the
call
comes
in,
we
can
turn
the
camera.
We
know
exactly
where
that
fire
is
and
what
we
should
send
and
then
also
to
graham's
point
earlier
when
we're
looking
at
the
fire.
L
We
know
what
fuel
type
it's
in.
We
know
what
the
road
access
might
be,
so
we
may
be
instead
of
sending
ground
crews,
we
might
be
sending
helicopters
because
we
know
the
access
is
difficult,
so
all
of
that
is
much
more
easily
detected
for
us.
So
it's
not
just
that
in
that,
in
you
know,
shorter
duration
of
the
response,
but
also
a
more
efficient
response
in
what
we're
sending
to
fight
that
fire.
K
Yeah,
I'm
just
going
to
throw
some
numbers
that
I
know
from
recent
this
last
year
because
we
all
get
to
live
that
that
nightmare.
Basically,
I
would
say
if
things
are
just
clicking
quickly:
you're
gonna
probably
save,
on
average,
probably
20
to
30
35
minutes
in
most
responses.
K
Kincaid
fire
was
35
minutes
based
on
what
typically
would
happen
is
they're
going
to
just
you
know:
casey
casey
and
her
her
folks
are
going
to
dispatch
right
and
then
typically
that
size
up
might
have
to
wait
till
they
get
there
and
and
so
in
many
cases,
old
school.
It's
going
to
take
a
while
to
get
there
and
make
sure
that
the
the
the
the
the
map
challenged
people-
and
you
know
you
just
you
know,
make
sure
you
know
exactly
what
you're
what
you're
up
against
and
so
pretty
routinely.
K
I
would
say
in
california,
which
is
really
no
different
anywhere
else.
I
just
happen
to
know
the
numbers,
because
there's
so
many
fires,
it's
cut
in
between
about
20
to
35
minutes,
but
in
extreme
fire
conditions.
That's
a
lot
of
time!
That's
a
lot
of
time.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
and
then
I
guess
the
other
question
I
have
and,
and
you
know
this
is
one
of
those
that
I
I
think
I
know
the
answer
to
but
I'd
like
some
I'd
like
to
hear
it
from
you.
You
know
we
talk
about
structure,
fires
and
we
talk
about
our
forests
or
our
wildlands
burning,
but
I
know
that
this
also
must
help
with
lives
right.
A
We
heard
that
we
lost
a
lot
of
lives
in
one
fire
when
you
did
some
statistics
earlier
in
your
presentation,
but
I
also
like
I
said
previously
worry
about
the
firefighters.
So
could
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
firefighters
and
how
this
might
help
them
in
their
safety
and
also
in
their
fighting
of
the
fire.
L
I
could
go,
I
guess
first
so
again
for
the
record.
Casey
casey.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
the
question.
It
definitely
can
help
again
with
when
we're
looking
at
what
we're
sending
there
are
often
times
we
originally
when
we're
sending
folks
out
there,
it's
dangerous
to
have
folks
on
the
road.
That's
one
of
the
most
dangerous
things
we
do
every
day
is
send
them
out
in
vehicles,
and
so
this
reduces
that
drive
time.
L
If
we
know
exactly
where
the
start
is,
it
reduces
the
amount
of
people
we
might
send
if
we
know
kind
of
the
terrain
and
how
it
might
move
through
that
terrain.
So
we're
we're
a
lot
more
able
to
send
the
right
things
to
the
right
places,
which
you
know
and
and
early
detection
means
we
can
get
those
out
there
for
structure
protection
quickly.
We
are
we're
looking
at
that.
Local
government
is
using
these
cameras
as
well.
L
They're,
they're,
really
the
first
responders
out
there,
usually
and
so
they're
looking
at
these
as
well
to
determine
what
structures
are
in
in
the
way
of
that
fire.
We
can
see
how
quickly
it's
moving
by
the
fire
cameras.
So
all
of
that
is
happening
a
lot
quicker.
Unfortunately,
like
dr
kent
said
earlier,
there
are
certain
conditions
un
under
which
all
the
wrong
conditions
will
come
and-
and
we
won't
be
able
to
put
people
in
front
of
that,
regardless
of
getting
an
early
detection
from
a
camera.
A
I
appreciate
that
lots
of
years
of
worrying
in
our
family
so
appreciate
all
you
do
and
and
appreciate
the
conversation.
I
don't
know.
K
One
point:
yes:
yes,
please
yeah
and
again
thank
casey
casey
and
her
folks
because
they
run
towards
fires,
and
I
don't
so
I'll
put
that
on
the
record.
What
it
unfortunately
can
do
also
is
after
action
reports
we
had
one
where
a
firefighter
was
pulled
out
of
a
fire
over
in
the
numbers
area
a
few
years
ago,
so
they
could
understand
what
happened.
K
Luckily,
that
person
wasn't
injured,
but
it
was
a
close
call.
We
deal
with.
There
was
a
fatality
in
the
los
angeles
forest
this
last
summer
and
you
could
just
unfortunately,
see
the
fire
behavior
as
casey
casey
said
you
know.
Unfortunately,
it
was
one
of
those
things
where
you
don't
want
to,
but
it
started,
and
so
I
think
by
having
this
this
after
action
video.
K
A
Thank
you
very
much.
I
don't
think
I
see
any
additional
questions
from
the
committee
so
with
that
we
will
here
we
will
go
to
testimony
and
support
of
senate
bill.
180
and
again
we
are
I'm
limiting
all
testifiers
to
two
minutes
and
broadcasting.
Is
there
anyone
online
that
would
like
to
support
senate
bill
180.
F
J
Tiffany
east
t-I-f-f-a-n-y
e-a-s-t
good
afternoon,
chair
don
daryl
loop,
vice
chair,
orrin,
shall
and
members
of
the
senate
committee
on
government
affairs
for
the
record.
My
name
is
tiffany
east
and
I'm
the
chairwoman
of
the
nevada
board
of
wildlife
commissioners.
The
legislative
committee
of
the
wildlife
commission
supports
sb
180..
The
full
commission
will
take
its
vote
later
this
week
on
this
and
other
bills
as
you've
just
heard.
Just
in
the
last
few
years,
wildfires
have
destroyed
hundreds
of
thousands
of
acres
of
habitat
for
nevada's
wildlife,
habitat
they
depend
on
for
their
summer
and
winter
ranges.
J
F
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee.
For
the
record.
My
name
is
kyle
davis
and
I
appear
today
on
behalf
of
the
coalition
for
nevada's
wildlife.
We
had
the
opportunity
to
have
a
presentation
by
dr
ken
a
few
weeks
ago
at
our
board
meeting
and
was
really
really
appreciated
the
opportunity
to
learn
more
about
this
technology.
J
As
you
heard
in
the
presentation,
wildfire
has
has
really
ravaged
nevada's
landscapes
in
nevada.
We
have
lost
over
nine
million
acres
in
the
last
two
decades
and
a
lot
of
times
when
these
wildfires
burn
on
our
landscape,
our
native
sanctuary,
habitat
comes
back
with
invasive
species
like
cheatgrass,
and
the
problem
for
that
is.
That
is
not
what
our
native
wildlife
need
and
that's
part
of
the
reason
that
we
see
challenging
situations
for
our
species
like
sage,
grouse
and
mule
deer.
J
The
number
one
thing
that
we
can
do
to
benefit
wildlife
in
our
state
is
to
control
these
wildfires
and
stop
the
loss
of
habitat.
Our
organization
is
in
strong
support
of
this
bill,
because
anything
that
we
can
do
to
detect
wildfires
earlier
is
going
to
help
us
maintain
wildlife
habitat
and
help
us
maintain
healthy
wildlife
populations.
F
F
F
J
J
F
A
L
Thank
you
good
afternoon
again,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee
again
for
the
record
casey
casey
state
forester,
fire
warden
for
the
nevada
division
of
forestry.
Thank
you
for
having
me
here
today
to
testify
in
neutral
on
senate
bill
180.
L
wildfire
prevention
is
critical
for
the
protection
of
life
and
property
and
of
nevada's
natural
resources
in
2020,
nevada
saw
an
increase
in
overall
fire
starts
across
the
sea
state,
with
a
steep
increase
in
human-caused,
ignitions,
68
percent
of
wildfire
starts
were
human
caused
amounting
to
76
of
the
total
acres
burned
in
nevada
prior
to
2020.
The
five
year
average
for
human
cause
starts
was
52
amounting
to
28
of
the
total
acres
burned
in
nevada.
L
To
ensure
this
increased
trend
does
not
continue
interagency
wildfire
prevention
campaigns
are
critical
to
educate
the
public
on
current
conditions,
risks
and
activities
that
cause
wildland
fires
in
nevada.
In
addition,
early
aggressive
initial
attack
is
critical
to
keeping
wildfires
small,
which
reduces
the
devastating
effects
to
life,
property
and
ecosystems.
L
In
2020,
interagency
partners
achieved
a
higher
initial
attack
success
rate
at
97
overall,
compared
to
a
historical
average
of
95
percent.
This
was
largely
due
to
ensuring
we
collectively
had
the
contracts,
equipment,
staffing
and
training
to
be
properly
prepared
for
the
potential
threats
of
the
season
in
2020.
This
included
an
emergency
contract
with
bridger
aerospace
scoopers
to
enable
highly
effective
initial
attack
early
and
consistent
interagency
planning
and
the
installation
of
additional
early
detection
devices
such
as
fire
cameras,
as
discussed
earlier
by
mr
kent.
L
Fire
cameras
are
used
by
all
five
of
nevada's
interagency,
wildland
fire
dispatch,
centers
and
by
state
federal
and
local
government
agency
personnel
for
early
detection,
identifying
exact
fire
locations
and
determining
appropriate
response
based
on
fire
size
and
acceptability
having
public
access
to
camera.
Viewing
allows
many
more
eyes
for
early
detection
than
agencies
have
alone
and
then
have
previously
used
than
other
previously
used
detection
methods.
Thank
you
again
for
having
me
here
today.
A
A
Thank
you
very
much
so
with
that
I
will
invite
senator
seaver's
cancer
back.
If
you
have
anything,
you
would
like
to
final.
Your
final
remarks.
B
A
A
We're
going
to
wait
just
a
minute
to
give
our
members
of
the
public
a
chance
to
call
in,
and
please
remember,
during
that
public
comment
period,
that
we
invite
members
of
the
public
to
express
their
views
regarding
any
matters
with
the
purview
of
the
committee
except
the
bills
we
just
heard
so
the
bill
hearings
have
been
closed
and
so
we're
no
longer
taking
that
verbal
testimony.
A
F
F
C
Hello,
my
name
is
cyrus
hogatti
j
c-y-r-u-s-h-o-j,
a
t
y.
I
just
think
that
it's
pretty
awesome
to
see
that
we
are
making
steps
approach
to
urban
planning.
I
think
that
the
urban
planning
is
the
number
one
concern
I
have
living
in
las
vegas.
The
reason
why
I
moved
there
is
to
provide
alternatives,
a
new
project.
C
C
However,
even
though
I
do
believe
we
need
more
pedestrian-friendly
transit-oriented
and
mixed-use
development,
I
don't
believe
that
certain
organizations
like
smart
growth,
are
the
solution.
I
believe
they're
doing
a
lot
of
things
wrong
as
well,
so
what
we
need
to
do
is
we
need
to
preserve
the
vast
amounts.
The
high
rate
of
single
family
home
ownership
keeps
free
flowing
traffic
but
provide
real
alternatives
of
getting
around.
C
It
is
certainly
one
of
the
largest
concerns
I
have
living
here
and
I
really
think
we
need
to
obviously
reduce
regulations
and
encourage
people
to
build
something
otherwise,
so
many
of
our
problems
we
have
around
the
world
are
as
a
result
of
our
horrible
urban
planning.
We
are
the
richest
society
in
the
history
of
the
world
and
it
is
disgusting,
the
kinds
of
cities
and
public
spaces
we
really
really
build.
So
I
urge
you
all
to
wake
up
and
realize
that
these
housing
tracks
strip
malls
vast
parking,
lots
large,
collector
roads.
C
All
this
is
devastating
and
we
really
need
to
preserve
some
of
the
benefits,
but
we
need
to
create
other
alternatives.
This
is
the
largest
concern
I
have
living
in
las
vegas
and
I
think
we
need
to
return
to
some
of
the
urban
planning
principles
that
we
did
in
the
1920s
and
prior.
I
think
historic,
carson
city
has
a
lot
of
things
we
can
learn.
My
question
is:
why
did
we
ever
change
this
system
so
much
in
the
first
place?
Think
about
it!
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Well,
erin,
no
more
public
comment.
That
concludes
our
meeting
today.
Our
next
meeting
will
be
monday
march
22nd
at
3
30..
We
won't
have
a
meeting
on
friday,
but
that
will
be
ending
shortly
because
we
will
need
that
time.
So
with
that,
thank
you
committee
members.
Thank
you
to
all
who
testified
and
hung
with
us,
and
the
meeting
is.