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A
Welcome
to
the
senate
government
affairs
on
friday
afternoon
at
3
30..
Thank
you
so
much
for
joining
us
and
if
the
secretary
will
please
take
the
role.
C
A
Chair
don
derelup
here
and
please
mark
senator
hanson
absent.
Thank
you
very
much
and
just
a
brief
reminder
that
for
those
of
you
that
are
joining
us
on
zoom,
if
you
need
any
assistance
when
you
get
ready
to
chime
in
and
support
opposition
or
public
terrorist
testimony,
you'll
hear
information
to
do
that.
A
So
we'll
have
a
period
of
public
comment
at
the
end
and
reminder
two
minutes
for
each
speaker
and
it
can
be
on
anything
but
the
bills
that
we
heard
in
committee
today.
The
committee
will
be
hearing
four
bills:
ab21
ab28
ab-71,
a
assembly
bill
153
we're
going
to
take
these
slightly
out
of
order,
we're
going
to
start
with
assembly
bill
153
with
our
very
own
assembly
woman,
bilbray
axelrod.
We
are
so
happy
to
have
you
here
with
us.
Thank
you
for
accommodating
our
late
afternoon
meeting
and
when
you're
ready.
Please
go.
D
D
D
Many
types
of
building
improvements
can
be
funded
through
existing
budgets,
new
lighting
technologies,
boilers,
chillers,
energy
management,
controls,
landscaping,
irrigation
systems,
trash
compactions
just
to
make
trash
compaction
just
to
name
a
few
performance
contracts.
Allow
agencies
to
make
the
facility
upgrades
now
with
no
upfront
capital
and
pay
with
them
over
time
through
the
utility
and
operational
savings
that
results
while
contract
payments
occur
during
the
useful
lifeness
of
the
asset.
If
the
savings
aren't
available
to
make
the
payments
over
time,
then
the
benefit
of
the
performance
contract
is
reduced.
D
D
D
We
have
also
requested
a
minor
minor
technical
change
in
this
bill
that
was
in
the
first
house
using
the
term
labor
cost.
It
was
a
concern
that
was
raised
in
the
first
house
and
actually
we
lost
three
votes
because
of
it.
So
we're
happy
to
remove
that,
and
I
think
it
would
have
been
unanimous
if
we
would
have
been
able
to
remove
that.
On
the
other
side,
the
technical
change
to
ab
153
explicitly
articulates
state
policy,
encouraging
the
utilization
of
performance
contracts
to
implement
energy
efficiency
and
cost-saving
measures.
D
The
change
will
provide
clear
statutory
guidance
to
state
agencies.
Regarding
the
state's
commitment
to
perform
contracting
and
encourage
the
utilization
of
this
important
budget
neutral
efficiency
tool,
it
also
clarifies
permissible
usage
of
savings,
realized
underperformance
contracts
and
allows
local
governments
use
such
savings
to
make
payments
towards
the
finance
cost
of
the
performance
contract.
E
Thank
you,
chairperson,
and,
and
thank
you
assemblywoman
bilbray
axelrod.
That
was
a
an
excellent
summary.
I'm
joining
you
today
from
las
vegas,
and
I
I
live
here.
I'm
from
here.
I've
been
doing
this
kind
of
work
for
11
years
directly.
Before
that
I
was
a
public
finance
banker
and
what
assemblywoman
bilbray
axelrod
described
is
an
important
distinction.
E
This
is
really
a
sort
of
a
financing
tool,
and
so
it
was
brought
to
our
attention
several
months
ago,
maybe
a
year
ago,
that
the
the
statute
pertaining
to
state
agencies
didn't
really
have
language
explaining
what
can
be
done
with
the
utility
and
operational
savings
of
the
work
that
we
do,
and
so
without
that
language
it
wasn't
clear
that
they
could
keep
the
savings
to
make
associated
payments
for
the
project,
which
is
basically
the
premise
of
the
whole
statute
and
the
work
that
we
do
in
our
industry.
E
So
in
in
seeking
to
kind
of
clarify
and
rectify
the
statute.
We
also
decided
that
it
would
be
better
if
we
made
the
language
in
332
for
local
governments
a
little
bit
more
clear
as
well,
and
so
that's
the
sort
of
impetus
of
this.
This
legislative
change-
I
would
maybe
describe
it
as
really
a
clarification
and
adding
language
that
that
probably
should
have
been
there
from
the
beginning,
and
so
I
hope
that's
clear.
It's
it's
a
great
program.
E
Many
local
governments
have
utilized
332
and
and
the
work
that
we
do
and
unless
so
state
agencies
under
33a
because
of
that
lack
of
of
clarifying
language.
I
really
appreciate
your
attention
to
this.
I'd
be
happy
to
address
any
questions.
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
I
just
had
a
quick
question
on
the
the
way
the
performance
contracting
works
for
the
labor
related
labor
costs,
so
in
real
life.
What
what
are
the
expectations
for
the
entities
to
do
the
performance
base
for
the
labor
cost?
I
mean
I
I'm
not
clear
on
like
what
you
want
them
to
do
like
reduce
wages
limit
hours.
What
are
we
doing
with
that?.
D
I
think
it's
just
on
nellis
now,
so
thank
you
for
for
bringing
that
up,
and
that
was
specifically
what
I
was
referring
to.
That
was
not
the
intent.
It
was
just
language
that
was
used
throughout
nrs
and
basically,
you
know
put
in
there,
but
we
that
we
in
no
way
shape
or
form
want
that
to
be
in
there
so
happy
to
remove.
F
A
And
I
will
ask
a
question:
so
can
you
can
you
give
me,
I
always
like
to
hear
sort
of
real
life
examples
of
what
we're
doing
so
in
section
two
where
it
says
reduce
costs
related
to
energy,
water
or
the
disposal
of
waste?
Can
you
sort
of
give
me
a
a
real
life
example?
There.
D
Shannon
bilbray
squad
for
the
record-
and
I
will
turn
this
over
to
tim
farkas,
but
I
I
did
want
to
one
that
came
up
and
I
don't
know
if
they
plan
on
testifying
and
support
on
this
side.
But
we
did
hear
from
the
city
of
henderson
on
the
other
side
that
they
used
a
performance
contract
because
the
language
was
unclear.
Some
people
were
using
it
some
weren't
and
they
did
a
solar
lighting
path
on
a
path
in
henderson.
D
E
Certainly,
this
is
tim
farkas
for
the
record,
and
the
city
of
henderson
did
a
very
successful
project
about
10
years
ago,
that
included
street
lights
and
air
conditioning
equipment
and
the
utility
savings
is
used
to
then
pay
for
the
cost
of
the
improvements.
And
so
that's
that's
kind
of
the
premise.
Take
the
existing
utility
budget
reduce
it
because
the
equipment
is
more
efficient.
E
The
new
equipment
is
so
much
more
efficient
that
it
then
pays
for
the
cost
of
installing
the
the
new
equipment
and-
and
they
did
a
very
successful
project-
they're
very
happy
with
it
they're
they're
in
the
last
few
years
of
a
of
a
15-year
agreement,
and
there
are
many
many
more
examples,
but
that
one
in
particular
stands
out
because
it
was
a
city-wide
effort
and
they
won
an
award
from
the
association
of
energy
engineers
for
the
street
light
part
of
the
project,
which
was
very
successful.
A
B
Chair
so
on
the
disposal
of
the
waste
since
we're
talking
about
city.
So
what?
If
one
of
the
cities-
because
I
know
I
think
I
think
they
do-
they
have
like
a
500
year-
contract
on
their
disposal
like
it's
in
perpetuity,
I
mean,
would
they
now
have
to
go
back
and
rethink
their
disposal
waste
contract.
E
For
the
record
tim
farkas,
no,
the
the
scope
is
determined
by
the
by
the
municipal
entity
if
they
don't
they're,
never
required
to
do
anything,
but
the
type
of
waste
management
reduction
that
we
might
do
is
is
something
more
simple
like
trash
compaction
and
having
the
trash
company
only
come
out
when
the
trash
bin
is
full.
We
don't
get
involved
in
affecting
the
the
actual
amount
of
waste
that
gets
sent
to
the
landfill.
E
That's
a
that's
a
different,
that's
beyond
our
scope,
and
we
may
help
with
some
recycling
here
and
there,
but
really
it's
it's
a
simpler
effort
than
that,
more
more
direct
and
in
location,
specific
site
specific.
You
might
say.
A
Thank
you
very
much
additional
questions.
Okay,
see,
none
we'll
go
to
our
support,
opposition
and
neutral
line
broadcasting
when
you're
ready
go
to
the
support.
Please.
G
C
C-H-R-I-S-T-I-C-A-B-R-E-R-A
and
I'm
the
policy
and
advocacy
director
for
the
nevada
conservation
league
here
in
support
of
ab-153
performance
contracting,
is
an
opportunity
for
governments
to
make
energy
efficiency
upgrades
that
reduce
energy
costs
and
associated
pollution.
This
bill
will
make
it
easier
for
governments
to
engage
in
these
type
of
contracts.
C
Energy
efficiency
is
the
cheapest
and
fastest
way
to
meet
our
growing
energy
demand,
while
reducing
the
pollution
that
drives
climate
change
and
harms
our
health,
because
the
cheapest
energy
source
is
the
one
you
don't
have
to
produce
in
the
first
place.
Energy
efficiency
is
also
critical
to
meeting
our
state's
climate
goals.
We
urge
your
support
on
ab153.
G
C
G
A
D
Thank
you
very
much
committee
for
hearing
this
bill.
I
would
like
to
point
out
on
nellis.
You
will
see
a
letter
of
support
from
the
governor's
office
of
energy.
D
We
had
a
few
more
people
calling
in
and
support,
but
I
guess
that's
just
the
nature
of
friday
afternoon
right.
So
thank
you
and
I,
like
I
said
with
the
amendment
that
we
were
proposing.
I
I
think
this
would
have
been
unanimous
coming
out
of
the
assembly.
We
lost
three
people,
but
I
look
forward.
So
it's
a
good
thing
to
help
help
the
earth.
A
Thank
you,
you
as
well
we're
sort
of
fast
and
furious
around
here
in
government
affairs
we're
efficient.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
joining
us
enjoy
your
weekend
and
we'll
see
you
soon.
Thank
you
all
right.
We
will
that
closes
the
hearing
on
assembly,
bill
153
and
we'll
jump
back
to
the
beginning
of
the
agenda,
and
we
will
go
to
assembly
bill
21.
A
H
H
This
bill
will
change
some
of
the
requirements
for
members
of
our
confidential
address
program
to
request
that
their
information
remain
confidential
through
certain
governmental
entities.
I'll
turn
it
over
to
erica
pond
to
present
a
brief
overview
of
our
confidential
address
program.
She
is
our
supervisor
of
our
victim
services
programs
and
then
I
will
go
briefly
through
a
description
of
the
changes
that
the
bill
proposes.
I
Good
afternoon,
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
present
this
overview
of
the
confidential
address
program.
My
name
is
erica
pond
and
I'm
the
victim
services
supervisor
at
the
division
of
child
and
family
services.
I
oversee
the
federal
and
state
victim
service
grants
that
are
administered
by
dcfs.
I
also
oversee
the
victims
of
crime
compensation
program
and
the
confidential
address
program.
The
confidential
address
program
is
known
as
the
cap
program
and
it
functions
to
assist
victims
of
domestic
violence,
sexual
assault,
human
trafficking
or
stalking
from
being
located
by
the
perpetrator
through
public
records.
I
Once
an
applicant
of
the
cap
program
is
approved,
that
participant
along
with
any
family
members
that
reside
with
the
participant
are
provided
with
a
fictitious
address
and
a
confidential
mail
forwarding
address,
dcfs
cap
staff
receive
and
forward
mail
to
cap
participants
in
terms
of
volume.
Currently
there
are
1
467
participants
in
the
program
since
2017
the
program
size
has
increased
by
200
to
400
participants
per
year
on
average
26
new
applications
are
processed
monthly
and
upwards
of
18
000
pieces
of
mail
are
processed
annually
with
around
1
500
pieces
of
mail
processed
monthly.
I
The
cap
program
was
established
by
the
legislature
in
1997
and
began
accepting
participants
in
1998..
The
cap
program
originally
operated
out
of
the
secretary
of
state's
office,
followed
by
the
attorney
general's
office
before
it
was
transferred
to
dcfs
in
2017.,
to
apply
to
the
cap
program.
Potential
applicants
must
apply
through
a
certified
advocate
that
is
staffed
at
a
domestic
violence
agency,
which
can
be
either
a
non-profit
or
a
local
government
organization,
and
a
complete
list
of
the
agencies
across
nevada
is
available
on
our
dcfs
cap
website,
with
also
a
link
by
counties.
I
Cap
participants
have
protected
voter
registration
records.
They're
exempted
from
jury
duty.
They
have
a
confidential
address
for
public
school
zoning,
utility
services
and
the
department
of
motor
vehicles,
and
so
that
concludes
my
cap
overview
presentation.
So
I'd
like
to
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
B
Thank
you.
So
I
know
on
the
other
hearing
on
the
other
side,
dave
dolly
submitted
an
opposition
letter.
So
is
that
still
is
he
still
in
opposition.
H
If
he's
on
the
call
today,
I
was
going
to
go
over
a
brief
overview
of
the
bill,
but
we
did
amend
this
belt
when
it
was
in
the
assembly
to
include
some
extra
checks
and
balances
that
mr
dali
had
requested
to,
so
that
a
participant
would
have
to
submit
additional
documentation
to
verify
their
participant
in
the
program
and
then
there's
also
the
opportunity
where
a
county,
assessor
or
county
recorder's
office
can
contact
us
directly
just
to
verify
so
that
nobody
would
have
the
opportunity
to
submit
a
fraudulent
application
to
have
their
information
kept
confidential.
B
And
then
quick
follow-up,
madam
chair,
what's
the
number
of
individuals
that
are
probably
going
to
use
this
fictitious
address,
I
mean
because
when
I
was
reading
the
bill
crossovers,
you
know
crosses
over
to
voting
it
crosses
over
to
the
dmv,
and
you
know
I'm
just
wondering
I
get
the
safety
concern
that's
being
addressed,
but
it
crosses
over
into
several
categories.
So
how
many
are
going?
Is
this
going
to
apply
to.
A
H
To
a
county
recorder's
office,
excuse
me
to
request
that
their
home
address
information
remain
confidential,
so
only
those
participants
where
they
are
purchasing
a
home
or
purchasing
property
where
their
actual
physical
address
would
be
made
available
on
the
county,
assessors
or
county
recorders.
Websites
are
the
ones
that
this
bill,
the
sections
one
through
four
would
apply
to.
Currently,
we
estimate
about
the
number
of
actual
individuals
who
purchase
a
home
who
are
enrolled
in
this
program
is
very
small.
H
I
believe
we've
had
less
than
10
try
to
try
to
use
the
provisions
that
that
we're
seeking
to
allow
for
this
allow
them
to
have
their
information
remain
confidential.
Through
this
bill
it
has
been
very
small,
so
we
estimate
less
than
20,
maybe
up
to
50
over
the
next
several
years,
but
the
actual
number
of
individuals
who
are
homeowners
or
seek
to
purchase
a
home
while
they're
enrolled
in
this
program
is
actually
very
minimal.
B
You,
madam
chair,
so
so
there's
a
couple
things
right
when
you,
when
you
said
that
there's
a
minimal
amount
of
people
who
will
purchase
a
home,
but
what
what
are
what
kinds
of
conflicts
or
issues
do
they
run
into
because
of
this
fictitious
address,
because
well,
there
just
seems
to
be
a
lot
of
things
associated
with
this,
like
being
able
to
prove
your
identity.
How
does
this
affect
their
social
security?
B
How
long?
How
long
do
they
stay
within
this
program?
Those
are
those
are
just.
Those
are
my
those
are
my
initial
that
I
really
want
to
know.
Okay,.
H
H
Section
two
of
the
bill
adds
participants
of
the
confidential
address
program
to
the
list
of
persons
that
are
allowed
to
make
these
types
of
requests
to
accounting
recorders
office
and
then
sections
three
and
four
would
include
the
same
changes
only
for
county
assessors
offices
throughout
the
state.
So
they're,
almost
identical,
except
it
applies
to
the
county
assessor's
office-
is
instead
of
county
recorder's
offices.
H
Section
5
adds
the
secretary
of
state
and
city
clerks
to
the
entities
that
shall
not
make
participants
confidential,
address
or
fictitious
address
their
telephone
number
or
email
address
available
for
inspection
or
copying
included
in
any
list
that
is
made
available
for
public
inspection
unless
they
are
directed
to
do
so
by
a
court
order,
and
then
finally,
section
six
adds
participants
of
our
cap
program
to
the
list
of
people
who
may
request
that
the
department
of
motor
vehicles
display
an
alternate
address
on
their
driver's
license
commercial
driver's
license
or
identification
card.
H
So
the
the
program
itself
allows
participants
to
provide
a
generic
fictitious
address
to
entities
to
use
as
their
standard
mailing
address.
Our
division
picks
up
mail
from
that
fictitious
address
and
then
forwards
it
to
their
actual
physical
address.
We
keep
their
confidential
physical
address
on
file
here
and
act
as
a
mail
forwarding
service,
so
it
doesn't
impact
their
social
security
number,
their
social
security
benefits,
or
anything
like
that.
H
A
Thank
you
very
much
questions,
so
I
I
have
one
I
I
understand
everything
you're
saying,
but
I
one
little
tweak
like
so.
If
I'm
in
an
apartment
building
the
apartments
all
have
the
same
address
but
unit
one
unit,
two
right.
So
how
does
that?
How
would
you
would
their
mail
would
still
just
go
somewhere
else
seems
like
it
would
be
different
if
you
didn't
own
it.
H
Actually,
most
of
the
participants
of
our
program
are
renters
they
just
by
the
nature
of
the
the
crime
they're
trying
to
get
away
from
their
abuser
or
stalker.
So
they
tend
to
move
around
a
lot
anyway.
The
their
physical
address,
where
they
are
living
where
their
mail
would
be
delivered,
would
still
be
on
file
in
our
office.
It
would
remain
confidential.
H
Things
like
that
they
would
use
a
generic
fictitious
address,
provide
that
we
go
and
pick
up
the
mail
from,
and
then
we
forward
it
to
their
actual
physical
address.
So
so
it
just
it
keeps
their
physical
location
where
they're
living
out
of
unable
to
be
searched
so
that
their
stalker
or
abuser
would
be
make
it
more
difficult
for
them
to
find
them.
A
I
This
is
erica
pond
for
the
record.
If
someone
is
in
need
of
a
confidential
address
program
on
our
dcfs
website,
we
have
a
list
of
the
certified
advocates
that
are
available
across
the
state
of
nevada
and
their
respective
agency
in
the
county
that
they're
located
in
and
so
that
potential
applicant
would
go
and
find
they
clicked
their
link
to
their
county.
They
would
find
an
agency
with
advocates
contact
that
agency
and
say
that
they
would
like
to
participate
in
the
cap
program.
I
At
that
point,
the
advocate
would
have
them
complete
an
application
and
assist
them
in
that,
and
then
the
verification
of
the
that
they
are
a
victim
of
domestic
violence
or
sexual
assault.
F
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I
I
guess
I'm
just
maybe
I'm
trying
to
simplify
it
too
much,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
this
only
applies
at
the
point
you
have
you've
been
issued,
a
fictitious
address
under
217.
Is
that
not
correct?
F
And
then,
if
this
only
this
bill
only
extends
out
to
what
agencies,
whether
it's
a
recorder,
assessor
or
whatever,
but
you
have
to
have
already
went
through
all
jumped
through
all
the
hoops
that
the
affidavit
and
whatever
and
you've
been
granted
a
fictitious
address
already
before
this
bill
kicks
in.
Is
that
right
or
am
I
missing
something.
I
Is
eric
upon
for
the
record,
so
the
fictitious
address
is
issued
to
the
participants
for
the
purposes
of
them
receiving
their
mail,
but
this
bill
is
really
to
limit
the
public
record
search
of
information
if
they
become
a
home
owner,
so
maybe
they're
issued
the
fictitious
address,
but
as
soon
as
they
buy
a
house
that
parcel
information
with
their
name
on
the
title
is
publicly
searchable
on
both
the
assessors
website
and
the
reporter's
website.
I
So
their
participation
in
the
confidential
address
program
then,
is
not
useful
if
their
abuser
can
just
search
the
recorder's
site
find
their
name
their
parcel,
how
much
they
paid
for
a
house
and
all
of
that
information
just
from
a
google
search.
And
so
what
we're
really
trying
to
do
is
keep
their
information
confidential,
even
if
they
do
want
to
buy
a
home.
F
H
A
I
Eric
upon
for
the
record,
it's
e
r,
I
k
a
p
as
in
peter
o
n
as
in
nancy,
diaz
and
dawg.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
All
right,
so
with
that,
if
we
don't
have
any
more
questions
from
the
committee,
we
will
go
to
support
opposition
and
neutral
and
broadcasting
when
you're
ready.
G
C
Good
afternoon
madam
chair
joanna
jacob
j,
o
a
n
n,
a
j,
a
c
o
b
government
affairs
manager
for
club
county
medicare.
I
just
wanted
to
put
on
the
record
today
our
comments
and
support
of
the
bill.
We
did
testify
a
post
in
the
assembly
just
for
the
purpose
of
working
with
ms
davis
on
some
technical
amendments
that
she
mentioned
in
the
assembly.
C
G
C
Good
afternoon,
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record,
my
name
is
serena
evans,
s-e-r-e-n-a-e-v-a-n-f
and
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
nevada
coalition
to
end
domestic
and
sexual
violence,
and
we
are
in
support
of
assembly
bill
21.
after
a
victim
survivor
is
fortunate
enough
to
have
the
courage
and
support
to
leave
an
abusive
relationship.
They
are
still
not
promised
safety.
In
fact,
the
time
after
a
victim
survivor
has
left
is
the
most
dangerous
time
for
victim
survivors
with
the
majority
of
domestic
violence.
C
Homicides
occurring
after
the
victim
survivor
has
left
and
ended
their
relationship
to
protect
themselves
and
their
families.
Many
victim
survivors,
enroll
in
the
confidential
address
program
to
create
a
sense
of
safety,
knowing
that
their
address
is
not
public
information
for
their
abuser
to
find,
while
the
confidential
address
program
provides
victim.
C
We
support
assembly
bill
21
because
allowing
victim
survivors
to
sign
an
affidavit
rather
than
petitioning
the
courts
to
remove
private
information
from
public
records
is
a
step
in
the
right
direction
of
increasing
survivor
safety
without
putting
a
further
burden
onto
survivors
themselves.
Thank
you.
G
G
G
C
Good
afternoon,
madam
chairman,
member
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
dave
dawley,
it's
d-a-w-l-e-y,
I'm
with
the
nevada,
assessors
association.
We
originally
opposed
this
bill
because
we,
the
assessors,
are
always
looking
for
transparency
in
government.
We
believe,
anytime,
you
remove
names
from
the
tax
roll
itself.
That
causes
a
big
problem.
C
I
would
like
to
thank
chairman
flores
and
ms
davis,
because
they
did
work
with
us
on
this
bill.
With
our
concerns.
There
was
at
one
point
an
amendment
to
the
bill
which
had
a
time
period
on
it,
because
this
particular
language
or
this
particular
program-
is
only
good
for
a
four-year
time
period,
and
so
we
actually
would
like
that
addressed
in
here,
because
it's
it's
not
in
there
and
the
way
it's
written.
Now,
it's
going
to
be
confidential
forever.
C
A
Thank
you
very
much.
I
am
hoping
that
you
can
work
with
the
sponsors
of
the
bill
next
caller.
Please.
A
Thank
you
very
much
and
we'll
go
back
to
ms
davis
and
miss
pond
and
see
if
they
have
any
closing
comments.
A
You're
very
welcome
and
we're
happy
to
have
you
here
and
thank
you
very
much
and
that
we'll
close
assembly
bill
21
the
hearing
on
that
bill
and
we'll
go
to
assembly
bill
28,
which
imposes
an
inverse
preference
on
certain
bidders
for
state
purchasing
contracts.
And
mr
doty,
will
you
please
go
ahead
when
you're
ready.
J
Good
afternoon
sheridan
darrell,
loop
and
members
of
the
committee,
I
am
kevin
doty
administrator
for
state
purchasing.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
assembly
bill.
28
this
afternoon,
restoring
nevada's
inverse
preference
law
was
recommended
by
the
executive
branch
audit
committee
at
their
february
2020
meeting.
J
J
It
was
dropped
from
the
law
at
the
same
time
that
the
preference
for
a
business
owned
by
a
disabled
veteran
was
was
added
to
the
law
and
from
the
legislative
history.
It's
not
entirely
clear
why
the
inverse
preference
was
dropped.
There
may
have
been
some
confusion
as
to
what
would
happen
if
you
were
awarding
a
positive
preference.
J
At
the
same
time,
you
were
taking
points
away
from
an
out-of-state
vendor,
so
that
might
have
been
the
reason
why
the
way
an
inverse
preference
works
is
that
it
essentially
penalizes
out-of-state
businesses
if
they
are
located
in
a
state
where
they
receive
a
preference.
J
J
One
is
from
an
oregon
based
company,
where,
let's
say
oregon
gives
their
own
businesses
a
10
preference.
One
is
from
a
colorado-based
company
where,
let's
say
the
state
of
colorado
gives
a
five
percent
preference
to
their
home
businesses
and
one
is
from
a
texas
based
company
that
provides
no
preference.
J
The
final
proposal
is
from
a
nevada
based
company,
when
nevada-based
company
already
benefits
from
the
five
percent
of
out
of
preference.
So
when
we
take
the
scores
the
evaluation
committee
comes
up
with
when
they
score
the
rfps
and
we
go
to
decide
who
to
award
the
contract
to.
We
would
penalize
the
oregon
vendor
by
10
because
they
receive
a
10
preference
in
their
home
state
now
penalize
the
colorado
based
vendor
by
5,
because
they
receive
a
five
percent
preference
in
their
home
state.
J
Make
no
change
to
the
score
from
the
texas
based
vendor
and
the
nevada
base
vendor
would
receive
the
nevada
preference
of
five
percent,
which
is
already
in
our
law.
Now.
Theoretically,
the
applying
this
inverse
preference
should
result
in
some
more
contracts
being
awarded
to
nevada-based
businesses.
J
It's
it's
impossible
to
tell
how
many
will
be
affected
or
which
contracts
are
for
which
agencies.
That's.
Why
there's
no
fiscal
note
attached
to
this
bill,
even
though
it
is
likely
that
the
application
of
the
inverse
preference
will
result
in
in
the
state,
sometimes
paying
more
by
going
with
the
nevada-based
vendor
much,
as
happens
with
our
current
nevada
preference
and
and
it's
and
that's
the
explanation
of
our
assembly
bill
28.
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
so,
and
thank
you
for
the
explanation,
but
I
guess
you
know
when
I
I
looked
at
this
bill
when
it
was
on
the
other
side,
but
in
I
just
so.
Let
me
ask
the
first
question:
this
only
applies
when
all
things
are
equal
right,
meaning
the
five
percent
exists
in
oregon
or
texas
or
whatever,
and
then
okay
you're
nodding.
Yes,
so
and
then
my
second
thank
you
go
ahead.
No.
J
J
So
right
now
nevada,
based
companies,
since
they
receive
a
five
percent
preference
here
in
in
nevada,
when
a
nevada
based
company
goes
to
try
to
get
work
in
california
or
oregon
or
another
state,
with
an
inverse
preference
law,
and
there
are
about
35
states
that
have
this.
This
inverse
preference
law,
the
nevada
based
business-
is
getting
penalized
five
percent.
So
in
a
sense
by
restoring
our
inverse
preference
law
it
would
it
would
level
the
playing
field
in
a
sense.
B
Thank
you
for
that,
and
I
guess
the
question
that
I
was
wondering
is
how
why
why
haven't
these
been
challenged
to
violate
like
privileges
and
immunities
like
you're,
creating
the
preference,
the
inverse
preference?
But
what?
What
is
your
public
policy
purpose
for
the
discrimination?
Except
for
that?
You
want
to
give
preference
you
want
to.
You
want
to
just
favor
your
own,
but
aren't
there
inherent
inequality,
issues
with
that
or
have
there
even
been
any
cases
that
challenge
this
under
a
p?
I
issue.
J
Kevin
duty
for
the
record.
Thank
you
for
that
excellent
question.
Senator
neal
the
privileges
and
immunities
issue
is
something
that
has
come
up
and
the
only
case
I'm
aware
of
is
the
the
one
involved
in
camden
new
jersey
that
was
decided
by
the
united
states
supreme
court
in
1984..
J
That
was
a
case
where
the
camden
enacted
a
municipal
ordinance
ordinance,
which
required
any
winner
of
a
construction
contract
to
hire
at
least
40
percent
camden
residents
to
work
on
the
contract
and
that
was
struck
down
by
the
supreme
court
as
a
violation
of
the
privileges,
immunities
clause
and
article
for
the
constitution,
an
eight
to
one
decision.
So
I
I
can
see
the
the
basis
for
your
your
concern.
J
I'm
not
aware
of
any
of
the
inverse
preference
laws
or
any
of
the
existing
preference
laws
being
challenged
in
that
way,
and
it
may
be
because
we're
only
talking
five
percent
ten
percent,
maybe
vendors
haven't
thought
to
challenge
them.
They're,
not.
You
know
concerned
enough
with
them
to
challenge
they
don't
change
the
result
in
a
whole
lot
of
contracts,
but
the
privilege
and
immunities
argument
is
there
and
has
been
made
in
a
different
context
and
for
more
you
know
extreme.
You
know
40,
but
that
is
a
valid
point.
Senator
neil.
B
So
yeah,
because
so
thanks
bud
chair,
I
just
I
just
want
to
know
like
when,
when
I
look
at
section
one
so
so,
let's
say
the
the
business
debt
wants
to
come
and
apply.
Yes,
they
had
a
preference,
but
the
preference
is
no
longer
applicable.
So
how?
How
is
that
business
then
viewed
when
they
want
to
come
into
nevada?
B
J
Kevin
duty
for
the
record,
thank
you
for
the
questions.
Leonard
neal.
It's
it's
based
upon
what
the
state's
law
is
currently
and
and
where
the
business's
principal
place
of
business
is
that's
the
the
terminology
used
in
our
nevada
preference
law,
and
we
interpret
that
in
line
with
the
supreme
court
decision
and
hertz
corporation
versus
friend,
which
has
to
do
with
jurisdiction.
J
Over
a
corporation,
a
a
business
has
only
one
principal
place
of
business,
and
so
a
a
business
whose
principal
place
of
businesses
in
texas
would
be
penalized
if
there
is
a
preference
for
texas
businesses
on
the
books
at
the
time
that
we
are
out
awarding
our
contract.
If
texas
has
repealed
that
law,
then
we
would
no
longer
impose
that
inverse
preference
and
it
doesn't
pose
a
burden
on
state
purchasing
to
keep
abreast
of
other
states,
procurement
laws
and
preferences
and
are
if
this
is
enacted.
J
B
Okay,
so
thank
you,
madam
chair.
So
do
you
think
that?
Because
this
is
it's,
it's
not
really
hypothetical,
but
because
of
the
pandemic
because
of
what
has
happened
across
borders
right
and
businesses,
number
one
losing
opportunities
and
then
trying
to
go
cross
jurisdictions
in
order
to
revive
themselves
that
this
may
then
be
ripe
for
a
challenge,
because
the
environment
is
such
that
we're
discriminating
against
out-of-state
businesses
to
it
to
to
a
degree,
but
they
have
a
legitimate
reason
for
wanting
to
find
work
across
borders.
J
Kevin
duty
for
the
record.
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Senator
neil,
I
think
it's
possible.
The
business
could
challenge
an
inverse
preference
law
just
like
it's
possible
that
a
business
could
challenge
our
existing
nevada
preference
law,
because
our
existing
nevada
preference,
we,
you
know,
give
a
five
percent
bonus
to
nevada
companies
when
they
bid
on
a
state
contract.
So
it's
always
possible
that
a
court
challenge
could
be
filed.
I'm
not
aware
of
any
case
where
any
of
the
current
preference
laws
or
inverse
preference
laws
have
been
held
unconstitutional.
A
Thank
you
very
much
additional
questions.
A
J
Kevin
doty
for
the
record.
I
I
think
I
I
understand
your
question
the
language
in
section
one
subsection.
One
is
basically
how
the
law
was
written
before
from
2003
to
2009.
That
was
the
text
that
was
codified
as
urs
333.336
and
it's
written
in
that
kind
of
weird
way,
because
not
all
preferences
are
are
alike,
some
states
will
award
a
preference
only
to
say
in-state,
printing
businesses.
J
So
if
say,
idaho
is
only
awarding
a
five
percent
preference
to
a
company
that
does
printing
work.
We're
only
going
to
impose
an
inverse
a
reciprocal
preference
on
a
company,
that's
bidding
on
printing
work,
it
wouldn't
be
for
all
idaho
businesses,
so
it's
just
in
in
proportion
to
whatever
preference
they're
receiving
in
their
home
state
so
merely
having
a
preference
that
affects
one
industry
doesn't
mean
that
every
business
located
in
that
state
is
subject
to
an
inverse
preference.
A
J
Kevin
doty
for
the
record.
All
these
preferences
we're
talking
about
are
are
part
of
state
laws.
So
it's
our
responsibility
to
to
check
the
laws
of
other
states,
and
we
are
a
member
of
the
national
association
of
state
procurement
officials
which
naspo
tries
to
collect
all
these
so
that
you
can
keep
track
of
where
the
different
preference
laws
are,
because
they
do
change
over
time,
and
it
would
be
a
requirement
that
we
would
keep
up
with
that
as
they
change.
J
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
one
more
question,
so
I
had
a
question
on
it's
section
one,
but
it's
one.
B
J
Now
piece
doty
for
the
record.
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Senator
neil.
This
language
comes
directly
from
our
nevada
preference
law
that
was
enacted
in
2017,
and
you
are
absolutely
correct.
It
is
there
to
make
sure
that
we
recognize
the
prohibition
that
currently
exists
in
federal
law.
Pursuant
to
2
cfr,
section
200.319,
subsection
b,
no
geographical
preference
can
be
used
when
a
contract
is
to
expend
federal
funds.
J
Unless
the
federal
government
specifically
says
we
can
do
use
a
geographical
preference
or
preferences
in
that
specific
instance,
so
this
was
written
into
the
nevada's
preference
law
in
2017
and
that
language
is
copied
here
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
make
that
mistake
on
a
contract
involving
federal
money.
Because
years
later,
federal
auditors
can
show
up
and
demand
to
have
their
money
back,
and
we
don't
want
to
make
that
that
error.
B
So
can
I
ask
you
a
hypothetical,
because
I
got
to
ask
you
a
hypothetical
question,
so
there's
there's
there's
a
couple
bills
like
I
know,
mine
in
particular,
which
was
creating
like
the
office
of
supplier,
diversity
right
to
really
get
into
the
game
around
procurement,
and
so
this
inverse
preference
bill
would
then
trigger
a
different
relationship
to
those
businesses
right
because
that
bill
is
focused
on
diverse
businesses,
minority
businesses,
and
so
they
may
already
have
like
a
veteran.
B
I
guess
the
the
equity
issue
of
receiving
too
much
of
a
preference,
because
now
you
have
the
inverse
bitter
piece
here
and
then
we've
kind
of
set
out
that
there
are
goals
and
things
that
we
should
be
striving
for
on
the
other
end
right
because
there
could
be,
there
could
be
too
much
going
on
right
because
they're
going
to
be
a
local
business,
and
now
we
put
them
in
one
pot
and
now
we
have
inverse
bitter
functioning.
At
the
same
time,
I
see
that
as
a
problem.
B
You
know
I'm
not
ever
trying
to
you
know
it's
about
getting
a
foot
in
the
door,
but
not,
but
not
the
foot
in
the
door.
To
the
point
where
you're
like
well
looks
like
I'm
getting
25,
you
don't
have
to
look
like
extra
extra
points.
For
just
being,
you
know
what
I
mean,
because
then
we
get
into
a
whole
other
challenge
and
issues.
J
Kevin
doty
for
the
record.
Thank
you
for
that
senator
neil.
There
are
two
issues
that
come
up
here.
Actually
one
is.
It
is
a
policy
determination
for
the
legislature
to
make
whether
they
want
to
be
giving
such
a
big
preference
in
any
given
contract,
because
we
will
already
be
helping
nevada
businesses
out
to
the
tune
of
five
percent
and
if
we're
also
docking
an
out-of-state
business,
five
or
say
ten
percent,
then
you're
correct.
J
That
would
be
a
15
swing
which
not
only
could
result
in
the
state
paying
say,
15
more
on
the
contract,
but
I
mean
may
undermine
other
goals
and
and
to
that
point
it
is
possible
that
an
inverse
preference
could
discriminate
against
minority-owned
businesses
located
in
other
states.
J
For
example,
california
has
various
preferences
some
for
minority-owned
businesses,
some
for
businesses
that
are
small
businesses,
different
things
like
that
and
under
an
inverse
preference
law.
Those
out-of-state
businesses
would
be
penalized
to
the
same
extent
that
they
receive
a
benefit
in
their
home
state.
So
that
is
something
to
consider
from
a
policy
perspective.
If
the
state
that
could
happen
if
the
inverse
preference
law
is
enacted.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
more
of
a
comment
than
anything
I
better
put
my
mask
on.
I
guess,
but
the
bottom
line
is
clearly
those
out-of-state
companies
don't
pay
taxes
in
this
state.
So
you
have
to
weigh
that
against
the
fact
that
that's
really
what
this
reverse
preference
is
about,
and
yeah
yeah,
especially
in
northern
nevada,
eastern
nevada.
We
have
a
lot
of
utah
companies
come
in
and
it
you
know,
doesn't
pose
a
hardship
on
the
on
the
locals.
F
If
this
five
percent,
although
it
might
cost
the
bidding
entity
a
little
more,
it
probably
does
provide
more
tax
security
for
the
state
and
those
entities
here
so
yeah
I
don't
I
I
see
where
miss
neil's
coming
from
and
the
fact
that
you
could
end
up
with
twenty
twenty
percent
preference
and
that's
going
to
be
very
profitable.
But
again
these
companies
tend
to
bid.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
I
just
always
want
the
nevada
companies
and
the
nevada
citizens
to
get
the
bid
yeah
all
right.
Thank
you.
Without
seeing
any.
I
guess
I
don't
see
any
additional
questions.
Mr
doty
we'll
go
to
support
opposition
and
neutral.
Thank
you
broadcasting
when
you're
ready.
G
G
A
Thank
you
very
much
any
closing
comments.
Mr
dodie.
J
Kevin
doty
for
the
record.
Thank
you
jared
under
luke
the
opportunity
to
present
assembly
bill
28,
and
I
have
no
comment.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
and
thank
you
being
for
being
with
us
this
friday
afternoon,
late
in
the
day
appreciate
your
time
and
with
that
I'll
close.
The
hearing
on
assembly
bill
28
and
we
will
go
to
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
71
and
assembly
bill.
71
will
revise
his
provisions
relating
to
a
certain
information
maintained
by
the
division
of
natural
heritage
of
the
state
department
of
conservation,
and
we
have
miss
zebo.
Is
that
correct
is
that
is?
Am
I.
H
L
Good
afternoon,
chair
don
darrow,
loop
and
members
of
the
committee,
with
your
permission,
I'd
like
to
go
ahead
and
just
do
a
little
bit
of
an
introduction
before
kristen
goes
into
the
bill
for
the
record.
I'm
jim
lawrence-
and
I
have
the
pleasure
of
serving
as
a
deputy
director
for
the
nevada
department
of
conservation
and
natural
resources
with
me-
is
kristin
zebo,
who
is
our
administrator
for
the
natural
heritage
division.
L
The
natural
heritage
division
is
one
of
the
many
divisions
and
programs
within
dc
r.
A
primary
responsibility
of
the
natural
heritage
division
is
to
maintain
the
state's
database
regarding
rare
or
threatened
species,
and
this
is
really
critical:
information
for
planning
purposes,
educational
purposes,
scientific
research
etc,
but
it
has
been
the
practice
of
the
heritage
division
when
releasing
this
data
to
redact
or
maybe
hide
the
specific
location
of
where
that
rare
plant
or
animal
is
located,
and
that
is
obviously
for
the
purposes
of
protecting
that
species
or
the
site.
L
I
want
to
emphasize
that
this
bill
is
really
only
about
the
specific
location
of
these
rare
plants
and
animals.
This
is
not
about
public
records,
requests
regarding
emails
or
documentations,
or
correspondence
going
back
and
forth,
and
I
bring
that
up
because
this
did
come
up
in
the
first
house
and
I
think
there
were
concerns
raised
largely
because
maybe
the
way
the
bill
was
drafted,
so
we
did
work
with
some
of
the
opposition
in
the
first
house
to
kind
of
clean
that
language
up.
L
We
also
work
very
closely
with
the
lcd
legal
folks
to
get
the
language
right.
The
bill
also
originally
had
a
two-thirds
vote
requirement
because
there
was
language
regarding
paying
a
reasonable
fee.
We
worked
with
lcd
legal
staff.
We've
removed
that
language,
it
wasn't
necessary,
so
the
two-thirds
stamp
is
no
longer
on
there,
and
with
that
I
would
really
like
to
turn
it
over
to
kristin
zebo,
who
is
our
administrator
and
runs
the
program
and
can
give
you
really
more
the
specific
details
on
this
bill.
Thank
you.
K
Okay,
thank
you
good
afternoon,
good
afternoon,
chair
dondero
loop
and
members
of
the
committee.
Again,
I'm
kristen
zabo,
I'm
the
administrator
for
the
nevada
division
of
natural
heritage
and
I'm
pleased
to
be
here
to
present
assembly
bill
71,
which
clarifies
that
the
specific
location
data
associated
with
rare
plant
or
animal
species
or
ecological
communities
is
confidential,
but
can
be
released
under
certain
circumstances
and
before
I
walk
through
the
sections
of
the
bill.
I'd
just
like
to
give
you
some
background
on
the
division
of
natural
heritage
for
context.
K
The
division
provides
two
levels
of
data
to
its
users,
the
standard
level
of
data
and
what
we
term
data
sensitive
data.
Examples
of
data.
Sensitive
data
include
location
data
that,
if
released,
could
result
in
poaching
or
collection
threats,
proprietary
data
data
that
involve
private
land
or
a
landowner
that
has
requested
confidentiality
or
locations
of
species
or
its
habitat.
That
is
considered
fragile
data.
Sensitive
data
are
still
provided
to
a
requester.
However,
the
precise
locations
are
obscured
similar
to
redacting
a
person's
address
to
protect
their
privacy.
K
K
Section
1,
subsection
4
requires
a
written
agreement
between
the
division
and
the
requester
that
requires
the
requester
to
maintain
confidentiality
of
the
location
data
to
protect
the
resource.
This
is
also
current
standard
practice
within
the
division,
subsection
5
references
that
the
provisions
of
nrs
chapter
239
apply
to
the
release
of
any
information
section.
K
That
concludes
the
summary
of
the
bill
in
its
first
reprint.
If
passed,
I
don't
expect
that
this
will
change
how
we
currently
do
business,
but
it
will
provide
that
extra
level
of
protection
for
the
data
sensitive
locations.
K
As
I
mentioned
earlier,
when
the
division
receives
a
data
request
that
results
in
data
sensitive
locations,
the
data
sensitive
locations
are
obscured
when
providing
the
data
to
the
client
and
the
client
is
aware
of
this
data
limitation
because
they
signed
the
division's
data
license
agreement.
However,
the
division
may
provide
precise
locations
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
K
I'd
also
like
to
point
out
that,
through
my
counterparts
at
other
natural
heritage
programs
across
the
country,
I've
learned
that
the
protection
of
data
sensitive
locations
is
a
common
challenge
and
many
states
have
passed
similar
legislation
to
protect
sensitive
data.
There
are
at
least
23
states
that
have
implemented
similar
data
protections
to
varying
degrees,
and
a
list
of
these
states
and
links
to
their
statutes
can
be
provided
to
the
committee
if
needed.
K
A
Thank
you
very
much
any
questions
senator
garcia,
please
thank.
F
You,
madam
chair,
and
I
I
went
through
this
bill
with
a
very
fine-toothed
comb
after
we
had
a
conversation,
and
I
guess
one
thing
that
really
concerns
me
if,
if,
in
the
event
where
we
had
a
rare
plant,
animal
species
or
ecological
community-
and
it
was
on
private
property,
I
would
hope
that
either
in
the
regulations
or
if
we
can
amend
the
bill,
that
private
property
owner
should
be
notified
before
you
release
the
information
to
anybody
else,
I
would
hope
they
would
be
get
the
information
before
you
in
fact,
had
other
people
in
the
community
actually
out
there
and
and
again
this
would
only
be
in
the
circumstance
where
that
was
actually
private
property
and
owned
in
those
cases.
F
K
Thank
you
senator
guay
kichida.
This
is
kristen
zable
for
the
record.
I
do
want
to
just
point
out
that
we
do
when
we
we
do
have
data
on
private
land
that
that
data
are
obscured.
So
when
the
data
are
released,
the
actual
you
know
the
specific
location
is
not
released.
K
F
Thank
you
and,
and
again
the
bill
says
the
administrator
may
adopt
regulations
necessary
to
carry
out
the
provisions
of
this
section
at
least
put
it
in
regulation.
That
said,
hey
before
you
release
any
of
this
information.
If,
in
fact,
this
is
going
to
impact
a
private
landowner,
they
shall
be
notified
before
you
release
it
to
I.e
the
inventor
environmental
community
or
or
anyone
else
that
requested
to
re.
F
K
Thank
you
senator
kristin's
able
for
the
record.
Yes,
thank
you
for
those
comments
and
we'll
definitely
take
all
that
into
account.
Thank
you.
A
M
M
You
know
these
treasures
and
I
think
a
bill
like
this
could
help,
especially
where
there
are
areas
that
are
sensitive,
that
maybe
they're
there's
a
working
towards
protection
and
there's
a
there's,
a
long
road
to
getting
that
protection
just
like
there
was
for
harry
mortensen
and
helen
mortensen,
but
but
it
happened,
and
you
know
I
think
this
bill
could
help
try
to
prevent
you
know
raiders,
who
want
to
just
get
those
things
for
their
private
collections
or
to
have
in
their
home
or
show
off
to
their
friends.
So,
thank
you
for
the
bill.
B
K
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Senator
neal
kristin
zabo
for
the
record,
it's
a
very
long
list,
so
it
could
be
a
particular
species
that
we
consider
sensitive.
If
it's
listed
as
endangered,
we
would
obscure
the
actual
locations
of
an
endangered
species
to
protect
it
because
it's
listed
on
the
endangered
species
act.
We
also
obscure
data
for
particular
habitat
types.
K
So,
for
example,
the
nest
of
an
eagle,
an
eagle
nest,
hawkness
falcon
nests
bats,
where
bats
hibernate
in
caves
and
mines
will
protect
those
those
specific
locations
so
that
people
don't
enter
those
caves
and
mines.
Looking
for
the
bats,
because
they're
very
insensitive
to
disturbance
certain
species
of
plants,
cacti
and
yucca
that
are
specifically
targeted
for
poaching
and
collection.
B
Thank
you
for
that,
and
then
my
second
question
is
so
how
would
this
work
so,
like
I
know
in
lake
las
vegas
they
have,
it
looks
to
me.
I
think
they
have
like
a
ecological
community
or
habitat
of
wolves
or
little
baby.
Wolves
and,
like
I
mean
they've,
built
out,
but
you
can
see
them
because
they,
you
know
they'll
howl
at
night
or
even
in
that
little
strip.
B
Have
you
been
to
lake
las
vegas,
there's
like
a
strip
where
they'll
be
sitting
underneath
the
tree
like
on
your
way
to
the
water,
and
so
I'm
I
always
wondered.
I
know
they
built
out,
but
how
how
those
those
wolves
are
being
protect
or
coyotes
or
whatever
they
might
even
be
coyotes
how
they're
being
protected
in
that
environment,
because
we
keep
encroaching
as
we
build.
It's
the
same
thing.
That's
happening
red
rock.
B
You
know
you
read
that
story
where
I
think
it
was
a
mountain
lion
or
something
that
came
into
the
red
rock
area,
and
then
people
are
they're
more
concerned
about
their
pet,
their
pet
getting
eaten.
But
there's
really
another
issue
there
about
well
you've
just
encroached
in
their
habitat,
and
now
they
don't
have
anywhere
to
go
and
now
they're
just
kind
of
roaming
around,
because
you
probably
dug
up
where
they
lived
or
moved
there.
Well,
you
change
their
feeding
pattern
for
sure
because
you
basically
messed
up
where
they
lived.
K
K
Records
of
wolves
in
nevada,
but
that
would
be
more
in
the
northern
part
of
the
state,
coyotes
and
mountain
lions
are
not
considered
rare
at
risk
according
to
our
the
natural
heritage.
So
so
those
we
don't
collect
those
data
or
keep
those
data
in
our
in
our
database
so
would
probably
be
more.
A
question
for
department
of
wildlife.
B
L
I
will
thank
you,
jim
lawrence
deputy
director
department
conservation,
natural
resources.
L
You
know,
while
administrators
ava
explained
that
you
know
in
the
case
of
coyotes
those
aren't
on
you
know
rare
or
endangered
lists,
so
we
would
release
that
data
without
obscuring
any
of
it.
But
the
the
overall
point
is
really.
You
know
one
of
the
the
main
importance
of
this
heritage
program
is.
L
We
do
have
many
many
species
of
plants
and
animals
that
are
rare
or
threatened
and
whose
habitat
might
be
on
the
fringes
of
where
urban
areas
are
looking
to
grow,
and
that's
why
it's
very
important
to
have
this
information
and
have
this
data
and
then
to
be
able
to
release
the
sensitive
most
specific
locations
when
local
governments
or
are
doing
their
planning
work
so
that
we
can
avoid
those
locations
and
protect
those
species.
L
B
Thank
you
for
that.
I
I
just
I
just
in
my
cause.
My
friend
lives
out
there
and
it's
more
of
a
joke,
because
I
keep
telling
him.
I
hope
the
baby
coyotes
come
over
and
eat
his
pup
pup,
but
it's
just
because
he
he
doesn't
respect
it
he's
just
like.
Oh
whatever,
but
I'm
just
kind
of
like
those
those
little
coyotes
are
going
to
come
around
in
your
backyard
and
eat
your
dog
and
then
I'm
gonna
throw
a
party,
but
anyway
no
animal
rights.
People
write
me,
I'm
just.
A
L
A
All
right,
thank
you
very
much.
We
will
go
to
support
opposition
and
neutral,
so
just
hang
for
just
a
minute,
we'll
be
with
you
broadcasting
when
you're
ready.
Please.
A
Sorry,
I
meant
opposition.
G
G
A
Thank
you
very
much
and
with
that
mr
lawrence
or
ms
avo,
do
you
have
any
closing
comments.
L
Right,
jim
lawrence,
no
closing
comments.
I
really
appreciate
your
time
and
attention
late
on
a
friday
afternoon,
senator
conchia
certainly
take
note
of
the
private
land
owner
having
private
landowner.
Participation
in
the
database
is
essential,
so
really
do
take
to
heart
those
comments
and
all
the
comments
from
the
committee.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
so
much.
We
appreciate
your
time
late
on
a
friday
afternoon
as
well,
and
hopefully
you'll
have
a
nice
weekend
and
thank
you
very
much
and
we
will
close
the
hearing
on
assembly
bill
71.
A
and
with
that
we
have
one
more
item
on
our
agenda
and
that
is
public
comment.
So
when
you
are
ready
broadcasting,
please
go
ahead.