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A
B
A
Chair
harris
here
we
have
two
members
present.
We
do
not
currently
have
quorum,
and
so
we
will
be
starting
off
in
a
subcommittee
with
that.
We
will
open
up
the
hearing
on
ab32,
which
revises
provisions
relating
to
the
towing
or
immobilization
of
a
motor
vehicle,
and
I
believe
we
have
some
folks
from
the
nevada
supreme
court
here
to
testify,
judge
saragosa.
How
are
you
today?
You
can
go
ahead
and
begin
when
you're
ready.
D
Chair
harris,
thank
you
very
much.
I
am
with
the
las
vegas
justice
court,
I'm
the
chief
judge
of
las
vegas
justice
court,
and
it
is
my
court
that
proposed
this
bill
to
the
supreme
court.
Today,
the
bill
is
designed
to
provide
some
procedural
clarity
in
handling
unlawful
toe
cases
for
your
reference.
These
cases
come
before
the
justice
courts
in
an
expedited
fashion,
when
a
person
believes
that
their
vehicle
was
either
unlawfully
towed
or
immobilized
through
a
boot
mechanism,
and
then
the
court
determines
whether
the
vehicle
was
lawfully
or
unlawfully
towed
or
immobilized.
D
So
in
looking
at
the
bill
section,
one
of
the
bill
provides
clarity
that
the
remedy
for
the
court
to
decide
whether
the
storage
company
has
to
return
the
vehicle
to
the
vehicle
owner
or
not
is
is
an
expedited
remedy
over
possession
of
that
vehicle.
Only.
It
is
not
intended
to
be
a
substitute
for
any
civil
action
seeking
monetary
damages.
D
So
basically,
what
that
means
is
the
vehicle
owner
is
not
barred
from
seeking
money
damages
later.
If
warranted
based
on
the
limited
scope
of
this
action.
Sometimes
we
will
see
complaints
from
vehicle
owners
who
want
to
have
a
whole
discussion
over
the
negligence
of
the
tow
company
and
towing
the
vehicle,
or
maybe
damage
that
was
done
to
the
vehicle
during
the
tow.
D
Additionally
section
one
adds
some
clarification
as
to
the
timing
of
the
claim
and
the
proper
name
defendants,
which
is
a
constant
issue
that
we
see
in
the
justice
courts.
D
One
issue
that
we
see
is
that
cases
are
filed
when
the
vehicle
owner
has
already
recovered
the
vehicle
and,
like
I
said,
they're,
usually
filing
some
sort
of
claim
for
loss
of
use,
or
things
like
that
that
need
a
full-blown
civil
action.
This
particular
expedited
remedy
is,
is
not
the
place
for
that.
They
that's
what
section
one
also
clarifies
they
can
still
bring
that
action
at
a
later
point,
but
not
in
this
proceeding
because
of
its
expedited
nature.
D
We
also
see
cases
where
the
individual
waits
months.
I
I
can't
explain
why,
but
sometimes
they
wait
months
to
file
this
type
of
a
case
and
because
it's
expedited
it
is
disruptive
to
the
court
to
have
to
jump
through
hoops
to
set
a
case
in
such
a
quick
fashion.
Only
to
have
the
parties
come
and
find
out
that
the
vehicle's
been
there
for
months
in
those
situations.
D
It
is
most
often
the
case
that
the
lien
storage
lien
has
already
been
put
on
that
vehicle,
and
the
vehicle
has
already
been
auctioned
by
the
storage
facility.
At
that
point,
the
court
does
not
have
the
ability
to
undo
all
of
those
other
legal
actions
that
have
already
taken
place
in
order
to
determine
whether
the
vehicle
was
lawfully
or
unlawfully
towed
and
order
it
to
be
returned.
So
there's
no
remedy
that
the
court
could
provide
to
a
person
who
waits
until
they
file
this
case.
D
D
This
section
also
clarifies
the
necessary
parties
to
resolve
the
claim.
It
is
necessary
for
the
court
to
resolve
the
claim
to
have
both
the
property
owner
who
authorized
the
tow
of
the
vehicle
from
their
property
and
the
tow
company
that
towed
the
vehicle.
D
D
D
D
Paragraph.
Let's
see,
paragraph
three
gives
the
court
the
authority
to
dismiss
the
complaints
that
just
don't
meet
these
requirements
so
that
we
are
not
forced
to
have
that
hearing.
Only
to
tell
the
parties
I'm
sorry,
we
can't
take
any
action.
For
example,
a
good
example
of
that
is
when
a
law
enforcement
entity
chose
a
vehicle,
that's
not
the
kind
of
case
that
is
subject
to
the
jurisdiction
under
chapter
487.
D
Let's
see,
paragraph
six
requires
the
vehicle
owner
upon
prevailing
in
this
type
of
an
action
to
present
a
certified
copy
of
the
order
to
the
storage
facility.
That's
holding
their
vehicle.
D
One
of
the
things
that
we
got
a
lot
of
feedback
on
from
the
tow
companies
in
working
through
these
issues
was
that
if
they
don't
get
a
certified
copy
from
the
court,
they
have
to
take
the
extra
time
to
try
to
verify
it
and
sometimes
contacting
the
court
and
getting
that
verification
can
delay
the
return
of
that
vehicle
to
the
owner.
And
that's
not
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
here.
D
We're
trying
to
have
this
be
an
expedited
process
that
certified
copy
of
the
court's
order
can
be
provided
to
the
litigant
at
the
time
of
the
hearing
so
that
they
can
walk
out
of
the
courtroom
with
that
certified
copy
to
take
to
the
storage
company
with
them.
That
should
result
in
no
delay
in
them
getting
that
vehicle
returned
when
warranted.
D
Finally,
paragraph
7
of
the
bill
was
not
part
of
the
court's
initial
language
in
this
bill,
but
it
was
amended
in
the
assembly
by
assemblyman
miller.
It
was
the
intent
at
the
time
to
have
the
registered
owner
noticed
of
the
toe
within
a
fairly
short
period
of
time.
However,
I've
subsequently
learned
that
there
were
issues
with
the
tow
company's
ability
to
access
the
information
on
the
registered
owner
from
the
dmv
within
the
time
frame
allotted.
D
I
believe,
there's
someone
on
the
call
today
who's
going
to
speak
to
an
amendment
to
strike
that
language,
but
to
keep
the
portion
that
the
storage
company
must
post
and
have
displayed
information
about
services
from
program
for
legal
aid
or
the
civil
self-help
center
to
help
those
individuals
file
their
claims
when
necessary.
D
So
from
my
perspective,
I
have
no
objection
at
all
to
the
amendment
that
is
offered.
I
expect
they
will
speak
to
their
conversations
with
assemblyman
miller.
It
is
my
understanding
that
he
had
no
objection
to
striking
that
language
and
accepting
the
amendment
as
well,
but
I'll.
Let
others
speak
to
that
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
C
A
A
D
I
don't
know
that
there
is
any
particular
reason
for
that
language
other
than
if
it
doesn't
meet.
I'm
not
sure
there
are
deficiencies
that
we're
thinking
of
so,
for
example,
if
it's
more
than
21
days
after
the
toe,
that's
not
something
that
could
be
cured
by
an
amended
complaint.
If
they
don't
have
the
proper
people
noticed.
You
are
correct.
That
could
be
amended
to
add
the
right
litigants
on
it's.
D
Typically,
the
the
thought
process
was
that,
if
it
named
say
metro
as
the
defendant
and
that
we
know
that's
not
a
proper
case
for
this
type
of
action
or
the
timeline
that
it's
more
than
the
21
days,
then
we
would
dismiss
it,
but
I
have
really
no
objection
to
it.
Being
a
may
I
mean
the
court
can
always
exercise
its
discretion
and
in
those
situations
where
maybe
they've
named
the
property
owner,
but
not
the
tow
company,
that
we
could
alert
them
to
that
issue
and
they
can
amend.
A
A
All
right
looks
like
you're
getting
off
easy
if
we
could
have
a
representative
from
the
nevada.
Is
it
the
nevada,
tow
association,
tow
operators
of
northern
nevada
come
and
speak
to
the
amendment
at
this
time,
that'd
be
great.
E
Thank
you,
chair
harris.
I
was
originally
going
to
come
up
in
support,
but
this
is
fine
as
well.
E
Thank
you
judge,
saragosa
for
your
description
of
the
bill,
so
the
amendment
discussed,
like
you
said,
strikes
the
language
that
was
amended
in
in
the
work
session
on
the
assembly
side
and
replaces
it
with
language
that
fulfills,
I
believe,
the
intent
which
is
to
ensure
that
those
who
are
wrongfully
towed
or
in
need
of
resources
have
the
means
to
find
that
information
available,
which
is
what
is
explained,
displaying
conspicuously
a
statement
regarding
the
availability
of
assistance
for
from
a
program
for
legal
aid,
self-help
center,
operated
or
overseen
by
a
court
or
other
similar
program
in
the
city
or
county
in
which
the
facility
or
other
or
other
location
is
located.
E
So
again,
we
believe
it
fulfills
the
intent
but
removes
the
24-hour
requirement,
which
really
was
the
heartburn.
The
the
tow
operators.
Tow
companies
rely
on
the
dmv
to
provide
the
contact
information
through
registration
records
and
that
turnover
time
is
usually
around
3
to
10
days.
So
the
24
hour
requirement
was
essentially.
C
Hey
man
of
chair
just
a
quick
question.
I
think
you
said
that
this
is
striking
out
language,
that
the
assembly
put
back
or
put
in
if
we're
undoing
what
they
did.
Is
there
any
expectation
that
they're
going
to
concur
on
this.
E
So
the
amendment
on
this-
oh
maggie,
o'flaherty
for
the
record,
I
apologize
with
the
tow
operators
of
northern
nevada,
the
amendment
that
was
added
in
on
the
assembly
side,
mr
pickard,
through
you
through
chair
harris
to
you
senator
pickard.
A
Can
I
just
ask
one
quick
question
and
assemblyman
miller
is
giving
us
the
thumbs
up
for
the
official
transcript?
How
do
you?
How
do
you
envision
this
notice
requirement
being
satisfied?
So
could
I,
you
know,
take
a
eight
by
eleven
and
write
down
legal
aids
number
on
it
and
stick
it
on
a
window,
or
is
there
some
effort
to
maybe
come
up
with
some
uniform
disclosure
that
could
maybe
be
shared
amongst
tow
operators?
How
do
you
envision
that
that
actually
working
in
practice.
E
Absolutely
through
or
maggie
flirty
for
the
record,
I
haven't
done
this
in
person
for
a
while,
so
I'm
getting
back
used
to
it.
The
currently
there
are
a
number
of
notification
requirements
that
operators
to
companies
are
required
to
fulfill,
and
typically
those
are
done
through
a
uniform
system
through
the
nta.
E
So
while
it's
not
delineated
in
language
here,
we
would
be
open
to
discussing
something
that's
uniform
and
across
the
board,
but
typically
they
defer
to
the
nta
on
note
on
notification
requirements
like
this
one.
A
Is
there
anyone
in
the
room
who'd
like
to
testify
in
support,
seeing
none
bps?
If
you
could
actually
do
we
have
anybody
on
zoom
who
wanted
to
testify
in
support
of
ab32.
G
Thank
you,
chair
harris.
My
name
is
sophia
romero,
I'm
a
staff
attorney
with
legal
aid
center
of
southern
nevada
and
the
consumer
rights
project,
and
I
just
wanted
to
put
on
the
record
that
we
are
in
full
support
of
this
bill.
A
H
H
F
Good
afternoon
for
the
record,
I'm
paul
enos
enos,
I
am
the
ceo
of
the
nevada,
trucking
association,
chair
harris
members
of
the
committee
speaking
today
in
favor
of
assembly
bill.
32
first
would
like
to
thank
judge,
seragosa
and
assemblyman
miller
for
being
collaborative
on
this
bill
and
heplines
address
a
number
of
these
issues.
We
do
feel
like
this
is
a
process
that
will
be
streamlined
where
we're
getting
both
the
tow
operator
and
the
property
owner
who
has
to
put
that
request
in
for
a
toe
before
that
toe
is
done.
F
A
H
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Anyone
in
the
room
who'd
like
to
testify
in
the
neutral
position.
H
A
D
Comments,
thank
you,
chair
harris.
My
only
closing
comment
would
be.
I
was
just
taking
a
closer
look
at
the
bill
and
the
only
thing
I
would
point
out
is
in
that
paragraph
three,
that
you
were
questioning
about
earlier,
that,
although
it
is
a,
must
dismiss,
it
is
without
prejudice
against
the
complainant
to
refile
should
they
need
to.
I
realize
that
doesn't
address
the
amended
issue,
but
it
does
allow
them
to
refile
if
necessary.
D
A
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
committee
members,
matt
walker
for
the
record
here
on
behalf
of
enterprise
and
pleased
to
be
with
you
this
afternoon
to
present
assembly
bill
281,
which
provides
provisions
governing
the
retention
of
certain
records
by
short-term
lessors
brokers
and
dealers
of
vehicles.
I
Assembly,
bill
281
would
enable
short-term
lusters
and
car
dealers
to
store
data
and
records
digitally,
while
ensuring
access
to
those
records
by
regulators
is
made
timely
and
providing
greater
protections
for
consumers
of
that
data.
If
passed,
the
bill
would
increase
security
for
consumers
and
businesses
by
not
having
those
physical
records
stored
at
each
rental,
location
or
car
sale
location.
I
Additionally,
it
would
increase
efficiency
for
regulators
at
the
dmv
department
of
taxation
and
local
governments
by
allowing
them
when
they
don't
feel
like
making
that,
in
person
visit
to
request
those
records
to
be
able
to
request
those
records
digitally
and
obtain
them.
In
some
cases,
a
little
bit
faster
very
quickly.
The
the
bill
sub
section,
1,
subsection,
1
and
2
of
ab-281
would
allow
for
short-term
rental
records
to
be
stored
electronically
and
ensure
regulators
have
timely
access
to
those
records.
Section
two
similarly
allows
for
car
dealers
to
store
records
electronically.
I
I
would
like
to
note
that
dealerships
are
not
required
to
store
records
in
this
manner.
This
is
simply
enabling
legislation
that
allows
for
the
department
of
taxation,
businesses
and
other
regulators
to
follow
best
practice
for
data
security
and
increase
efficiency
when
reviewing
licensee
records.
So
if
there's
that
dealership
in
ely
that
really
likes
their
paper
and
wants
to
keep
their
filing
cabinet
that
there's
nothing
in
this
bill
that
would
require
them
to
transition
with
me
today
is
in
las
vegas
is
keith
duffy
he's
the
risk
manager
for
enterprise
rental
car
in
nevada.
I
So
he
does
the
risk
management
not
only
for
the
enterprise
rental
car
locations
that
many
of
you
are
familiar
with,
but
also
the
the
network
of
used
car
dealerships
that
enterprise
operates
in
the
state.
So
he's
got
good
experience
with
how
this
bill
might
manifest
itself
and
and
be
more
efficient
for
enterprise,
and
I'd
like
to
kick
it
over
to
keith
to
see
if
he
has
anything
he'd
like
to
add
in
terms
of
how
he
sees
this
bill
playing
out
and
how
the
current
requirement
for
physical
records
is
an
impediment
to
the
business.
J
I
thank
you
today,
keith
duffy,
for
the
record
with
enterprise
rent
car.
Thank
you,
joe
harris,
and
the
members
of
the
committee
for
having
me
so
really.
We've
just
looked
at
this
in
the
past,
we've
had
just
trying
to
make
sure
we
can
store
our
records
without
having
large
rooms
at
our
locations
and
just
be
able
to
quickly
access
these
without
going
through
file
cabinets
and
have
more
data
security
online
versus
have
a
physical
location
that
someone
could
break
into
and
get
into
these
records.
J
A
All
right,
thank
you
so
much,
mr
duffy.
Does
that
conclude
your
presentation,
mr
walker,.
I
Chair
harris,
matt
walker
for
the
record
I'll
have
enterprise.
I
would
just
like
to
thank
dmv
department
of
tax,
local
governments,
franchise,
auto
dealers,
everybody
who
chimed
in
and
added
their
viewpoint
to
the
construction
of
this
bill
and
think
it's
a
stronger
measure
as
a
result.
A
Okay,
I
have
just
one:
what
is
the
record
retention
policy,
and
would
this
does
this
bill
affect
that
at
all?
So,
theoretically,
I
I
don't
know
what
the
existing
state
of
the
law
is,
but
let's
say
theoretically,
they
require
you
to
maintain
a
record
and
paper
for
seven
years.
Is
this?
Is
the
timeline
still
going
to
be
the
same
or
or
would
this
suggest
that
at
all.
J
Keith
duffy
for
the
record
chairs.
Yes,
there's
no
changes
in
the
timelines
right
now,
it's
between
seven
and
ten
years,
depending
on
what
documents
that
are
needed
to
be
stored.
So
if
you
have
seven
years
of
a
lot
of
automobile
records
or
files,
it
can
make
for
a
file
handling
issue.
So
that's
so
no
change
in
the
time.
So,
just
more
in
the
way
of
doing
it,.
I
Matt
walker
for
the
record
chair,
if
I
may,
the
the
records
retention
timeline
for
the
dealerships
is
slightly
different
at
three
years,
but
I
would
echo
mr
duffy's
comments
regarding
there
being
no
change
to
those
policies.
A
C
Good
afternoon,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record,
this
is
andrew
mckay,
a
and
d
rew
m-a-c-k-a-y,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
the
nevada
franchise,
auto
dealers
association.
First,
I'd
like
to
begin
by
thanking
assemblyman
miller,
as
well
as
mr
walker
and
enterprise
for
bringing
this
forward.
C
This
is
much
needed
in
welcome
legislation,
as
the
committee
is
aware
of,
we
have
a
very
paper
intensive
industry
and,
as
we
continue
to
advance
and
move
forward
in
the
future
and
trying
to
electrify
slash
digitize
everything.
This
makes
that
happened
to
respond
briefly
to
what
mr
walker
said.
Yes,
it
is
optional,
but
I
don't
know
of
one
dealership:
that's
not
going
to
jump
in
to
the
deep
end
on
this
thing
and
move
forward
on
it.
C
So
we
just
want
to
thank
everybody
for
moving
forward
and
involving
us
in
the
process
and
madam
chair,
thanks
for
your
time
and
members
of
the
committee
appreciate
it.
A
A
All
right,
I
don't
see
anybody
virtually
jumping
up
and
down
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
go
to
the
phone
lines
bps.
Could
you
open
up
the
phone
line,
see
if
there's
anyone
who'd
like
to
testify
and
support.
H
H
A
There
anyone
in
the
room
who
would
like
to
testify
in
opposition
to
sen
assembly
bill
281,
saying
none
is
there
anyone
on
the
zoo,
who'd
like
to
testify
in
opposition.
A
All
right
we'll
do
this
one
last
time,
anybody
in
the
room
who'd
like
to
testify
in
the
neutral
position.
Okay,
I
don't
see
anybody.
Anyone
on
the
zoom
who'd
like
to
testify
in
the
neutral
position,
also
not
seeing
anyone,
let's
see
if
there's
anyone
on
the
line,
who'd
like
to
testify
in
the
neutral
position.
H
A
Okay,
we'll
close
out
the
testimony,
then,
mr
walker,
would
you
like
to
make
any
closing
comments,
or
are
you
feeling
pretty
good,
okay,
we'll
close
out
the
hearing
on
ab281
and
open
the
hearing
on
ab-301,
which
revises
provisions
governing
the
towing
of
motor
vehicles
and
will
welcome
assemblyman
miller
to
the
committee
go
ahead
and
start
when
you
are.
K
K
K
Now,
as
we
all
know,
the
covet
19
pandemic
dealt
a
sharp
blow
to
our
state's
ability
to
conduct
the
business
of
government.
As
usual,
agencies
were
required
to
cease
in-person
transactions
and
move
to
remote
work
environments
with
very
little
notice
as
a
matter
of
public
health
and
safety,
and
while
nevada
quickly
authorized
the
exhaustion
of
rainy
day
funds
from
the
account
to
stabilize
the
operation
of
state
government,
the
federal
government
moved
to
swiftly
get
financial
assistance
to
americans
to
help
us
all,
keep
our
families
afloat.
K
K
We
as
legislators
know
all
too
well
how
the
department
struggled
to
get
those
two
many
people
who
needed
them
now,
like
many
nevada,
meaning
many
americans,
a
significant
number
of
nevadans
found
themselves
in
lines
at
various
pop-up
food
banks,
picking
up
boxes
of
food,
they
could
no
longer
afford
to
purchase
and
so
on,
and
it
was
almost
a
requirement
to
have
a
vehicle
to
even
get
the
food
if
you
really
needed
it
now.
K
Imagine
if
we
found
ourselves
here
again,
but
someone's
vehicle
had
been
told
in
the
wee
hours
of
the
morning
on
the
day
they
were
there
to
pick
up
their
25
5
pound
box
of
food
operations
at
the
department
of
motor
vehicles
were
no
exception
to
the
disruption
staff
from
dmv
have
previously
described
the
challenges.
The
department
faced
during
the
past
year
to
this
committee
challenges.
I'm
sorry,
I'm
sure
to
this
committee
as
well
challenges
which
the
dmv
has
since
adapted
to
and
overcome.
K
But
there
were
still
some
issues
like
as
it
relates
to
our
vehicle
registration
stickers.
Under
existing
law,
vehicle
registration
stickers
are
vehicle.
Registrations
are
denoted
by
a
license
plate
decal
on
or
more
commonly
referred
to
as
a
sticker,
which
is
the
term
I'll
use
from
now
on.
Those
stickers
show
the
month
and
year
that
a
vehicle
is
currently
registered
and
it's
an
indication
of
if
a
vehicle
has
current
registration
or
not,
however,
due
to
the
pandemic
and
what
we
were
dealing
with.
K
It
was
became
such
an
issue
that
the
nta
the
nevada
transportation
authority
issued
a
letter
notifying
co,
told
car
operators
that
the
agency
had
become
aware
of
the
practice
and
issued
the
following
directive
that
I
will
just
briefly
quote
from
to
ensure
vehicles
being
told
as
unregistered
are
in
fact
unregistered.
The
nta
is
requesting
that
tow
companies
verify
the
registration
status
of
the
vehicles
in
question
via
the
nevada
dmv's
website
prior
to
towing
a
vehicle
as
unregistered
this
bill.
K
Ab-301
will
codify
this
directive
into
statute
and
will
require
tow
car
operators
to
release
the
vehicle
without
charge
to
the
owner.
If
the
owner
is
able
to
provide
proof,
the
vehicle
was
indeed
registered
at
the
time
of
the
tow
tow
car
operators
are
able
to
verify
the
vehicle's
owners.
The
vehicle
owners
claim
in
real
time,
using
the
link
to
the
dmv's
website.
They're
also
able
to
use
this
link
before
they
make
a
tow
just
to
ensure
that
the
vehicle
is
in
fact
not
registered
at
the
time
of
the
the
tow.
K
K
K
As
you
know,
if
you
get
your
vehicle
towed
and
if
you
don't
have
the
money
to
get
it,
it
may
be
very
difficult
to
come
up
with
the
money
to
get
it
released
immediately
and
so
giving
that
additional
time
for
some
nevadans,
who
are
you
know
having
some
hard
financial
times,
which
is
probably
an
indication
as
to
why
their
vehicle
registration
is
not
current
in
the
first
place,
gives
them
some
additional
time
to
remedy
their
situation
and
properly
find
the
funds
to
do
so.
K
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
turn
the
walkthrough
of
the
bill
over
to
sophia
romero.
Who's
been
helpful
in
this
process,
and
I
just
like
to
acknowledge
that
the
tow
operators
have
been
very
helpful
as
well
in
helping
me
to
find
solutions
and
even
suggesting
language
that
makes
the
bill
work
for
all
of
us,
while
providing
additional
protections
for
those
who
are
having
a
hard
time
so
chair.
K
With
your
permission,
I'd
like
to
turn
the
remainder
of
the
presentation
over
to
ms
sophia
romero
from
the
legal
aid
center
of
southern
nevada,
and
once
she
is
finished,
we
will
be
ready
for
questions.
I
believe
I
have
commissioner
david
newton
from
the
nevada
transportation
authority
available
on
zoom
to
answer
questions
as
well.
Thank
you.
A
Miss
romero
happy
to
have
you
here,
I'd
be
remiss
in
not
mentioning
that
we
used
to
work
together
and
it's
a
pleasure
to
be
just
in
the
same
space
with
you
again,
because
you're
always
doing
great
things.
So,
thanks
for
bringing
that
that
energy
here
to
the
legislature,
go
ahead
and
begin
when
you're
ready.
G
Thank
you
cheer
harris.
I
appreciate
it
and
it's
great
to
see
you
too
good
afternoon,
chair
hares,
vice
chair,
brooks
members
of
the
committee.
For
the
record,
my
name
is
sophia
romero
and,
as
assembly
mailer
assemblyman
miller
stated,
I
am
a
staff
attorney
at
the
in
the
consumer
rights
project
at
legal
aid
center
of
southern
nevada.
Before
I
walk
through
the
bill,
I
would
like
to
thank
assembly
miller
for
bringing
this
very
important
piece
of
legislation.
This
will
be
will
be
a
much
needed
addition
to
nevada
law
and
solves
a
problem.
G
We've
seen
quite
a
bit.
We
are
all
subject
to
having
our
vehicle
towed,
whether
it
be
by
our
hoa
apartment,
complex
or
even
parking
in
the
wrong
spot
at
the
wrong
time.
For
some,
when
this
occurs,
it's
a
minor
inconvenience
it
makes
for
a
bad
day.
However,
for
others
it
can
be
what
sends
them
into
extreme
financial
hardship,
not
having
a
vehicle
to
get
to
work
can
result
in
the
loss
of
employment
or
turning
to
alternate
methods
such
as
payday
loans,
to
try
to
obtain
emergency
funds
working
at
legal
aid.
G
I've
become
accustomed
to
having
an
unusual
case
load.
We
are
often
people's
life
resort.
The
week
before
ab
301
was
introduced,
an
applicant
called
seeking
assistance
because
his
car
had
been
towed
for
lack
of
registration.
This
happened
despite
the
fact
that
his
registration
was
current.
He
filed
a
complaint
for
unlawful
toe
in
court,
showed
his
proof
of
registration
at
the
hearing
and
still
lost
all
because
his
decal
was
not
current
and
despite
the
directive
of
the
nevada
transportation
authority.
G
It
is
extremely
rare
that
we
decline
representation,
but
even
I
felt
hopeless
when
we
presented
with
his
situation.
It
was
because
of
this
case
that
I
was
so
excited
when
I
read
ab301
and
why
we
were
so
eager
to
reach
out
to
assemblyman
miller
and
ask
if
we
could
help
support
his
bill.
I
urge
his
committee
to
support
it
as
well.
Now
I
will
walk
through
the
bill
section.
G
Section
two,
which
is
essentially
the
meat
of
the
bill,
states
that
the
owner
of
the
real
property
must
notify
the
vehicle
owner
of
the
tow
at
least
five
days
before
the
tow
by
placing
the
sticker
on
the
window
of
the
vehicle.
That
sticker
must
provide
the
date
and
time
after
which
the
vehicle
may
be
so
the
real
property.
G
Excuse
me,
the
real
property
owner
must
also
attempt
to
notify
the
vehicle
via
telephone
or
email
if
available
and
shall
fix
the
notice
to
the
door
of
the
residential
unit
when
the
vehicle
is
and
then
assigned
or
designated
parking
space,
there
is
an
exception
to
the
notice
requirements
if
the
notice
was
already
given
for
the
same
or
similar
reason
or
if
the
vehicle
has
been
towed
more
than
three
times
the
preceding
six
months.
G
Section
two
also
requires
tow
car
operators
to
independently
verify
the
registration
status
of
the
vehicle
by
using
the
dmv's
website
before
towing
the
vehicle
and
keep
evidence
of
this
verification
for
one
year.
Any
tow
car
operator
who
fails
to
comply
with
this
requirement
is
responsible
for
the
vehicle's
removal
and
storage
costs.
Again.
If
the
vehicle
was
registered
at
the
time
of
the
tow,
either
in
nevada
or
any
other
state,
then
the
vehicle
must
be
immediately
released
to
the
owner
without
charge.
G
Additionally,
section
2
states
that
a
tow
operator
shall
not
charge
your
storage
fee
unless
the
vehicle
has
been
on
the
property
for
48
hours
and
that
time
period
starts
during
business
hours.
So
if
the
vehicle
is
towed
in
the
middle
of
the
night,
the
48
hour
period
would
not
start
until
business
hours
the
next
morning
to
allow
a
person
actually
48
hours
of
real
time
when
they
could
actually
take
care
of
the
situation.
G
If
the
registered
owner
does
not
provide
proof
that
the
vehicle
was
registered
at
the
time
of
the
total,
but
they
are
incapable
of
paying
the
normal
rate
for
the
removal
and
storage
of
the
vehicle.
Then
they
shall
pay
a
hardship
tariff
for
that
cost.
The
hardship
tariff
shall
be
established
by
the
nevada
transportation
authority,
which
will
have
authority
to
adopt
regulations
to
carry
out
provisions
with
that.
I
will
conclude.
I
am
available
for
any
questions
and
that
you
may
have,
and
I
will
turn
it
back
over
to
civilian
assemblyman
miller.
Thank
you.
A
All
right,
thank
you
so
much
for
that
walk
through
miss
romero.
Are
there
any
questions
from
committee
members.
A
All
right,
senator
hammond
and
I
know
senator
spearman-
has
a
question
as
well:
we'll
go
to
senator
hammond
first
and
then
I
I'll
shoot
it
to
you.
Senator
spearman.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I
was
just
looking
at
this
section
here
and
I
didn't
write
it
down.
So
let
me
give
you
a
second.
I
think
it's
section,
two
sub
section
three.
I
three
well,
basically
the
part
that
says
that
they
can
go
ahead
and
tow
the
vehicle
for
the.
If
there's
a
similar
reason
within
the
same
residential,
complex
three
or
more
times
during
the
immediately
proceeding
six
months,
I
guess
for
the
in
the
nta.
I
think
you
had
david
newton
on
the
phone.
C
Is
that
something
that
they
that
they
monitor,
that
they
can
actually
tell
you
if
that
person
has
been
cited
and
they
keep
track
of
that
kind
of
stuff,
and
so
this
this
would
actually
apply
to
it.
K
Thank
you
for
the
question
assemblyman
c.h
miller,
for
the
record.
I
will
defer
to
commissioner
newton
for
that
answer.
If
he
has
it.
C
Oh,
and
and
before
he
does
answer
I
best,
I
think
I
better
disclose.
I
guess
I'd
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
tell
everybody
that
I
did
when
we
did
work
together.
Quite
a
bit
david
newton
and
I
used
to
share
an
office
together.
He
brings
this
kind
of
really
good
energy,
also
to
everything
that
he
that
he
touches.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
everybody
knew
that
in
case
there's
any
confusion
go
ahead.
Mr.
A
C
Kidding
I
tell
you
what,
after
all,
that
his
energy
is
so
brilliant
that
he
left
this
planet
for
a
little
while
and
we'll
return
later
on,
he's,
probably
off
listening
to
neil
diamond
somewhere.
K
C
K
Are
currently
tracking,
but
I
I
in
as
I
think
through
some
of
the
conversations
that
I
have
had,
because
in
order
for
them
to
make
the
initial
toll
the
it
has
to
be
given
the
green
light
by
the
property
owner.
K
So
I
would
assume
that
there
is
a
record
that
they
are
keeping
of
each
time
that
they
authorize
the
toll
so
whether
it
be
the
property
owner
or
the
tow
operator
themselves.
I'm
pretty
sure
there's
a
record
of
that.
C
And
the
reason
for
me
asking
again
thank
you
very
much
for
the
answer.
Is
you
know
you
don't
want
to
overburden
somebody
right
and-
and
I
guess
if
it
becomes,
this
is
something
that
they
do
and
they
do
quite
often
anyway,
they
have
a
record
of
it.
It's
not
an
additional
burden,
it
just
seems
reasonable
to
me,
but
I
just
wanted
to
check
and
see
what
what
they
thought.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
I
just
have
a
couple
more
questions.
That's
the
first
one
and
I'll
start
with
pick
up
on
where
my
colleague
dustin
hammond
just
left
off
keeping
a
record.
I
would
hope
that
they
would
is
there
no
way
that
we
can
verify
that
they
are
keeping
a
record
and
if
so,
what
does
the
record
contain?.
K
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Senator
spearman,
it's
c.h
miller,
for
the
record.
I
will
confirm
and
get
to
the
committee
exactly
what
type
of
records
they're
currently
keeping.
B
One
person
I
heard
from
had
to
borrow
did
I
tell
you
they
had
to
borrow
yeah.
They
had
to
borrow
two
thousand
dollars
to
get
their
car
back
and
they
had
just
been
laid
off.
B
So
I'm
concerned
about
number
one
where
the
tow
operators
are
going
I'd
like
to
know
that
information
by
zip
code
and
would
also
like
to
know
what
kind
of
record
are
they
keeping
and
the
average
cost,
because
during
the
pandemic,
when
people
are
unemployed
or
just
had
their
hours
reduced,
I
just
I'm,
I'm
I'm
gosh
smacked
as
to
why
anyone
would
take
someone's
car
and
then
it'd
be
two
thousand
dollars
to
to
to
get
it
back.
B
So
that
that's
the
other
thing
that
I
like
to
ask
and
is:
is
it
possible
at
all
to
add
an
amendment
to
that
that
would
require
them
to
keep
a
record
and
the
record
must
include
the
cost
of
towing
and
the
cost
of
storage?
In
other
words,
how
much
is
it
going
to
cost
a
person?
How
much
did
it
cost
a
person
get
their
car
back
and
the
zip
code
from
where
they
they
towed
the
the
vehicle
just
a
question,
and
I
hope
that
you'll
see
that
as
a
friendly
amendment.
K
Thank
you
senator
spearman,
at
c.h
miller,
for
the
record,
so
I
am
certainly
open
to
exploring
that
with
the
toll
operators
to
see
how
we
can
and
process
and
with
the
nta
to
see
how
we
can
what
data
we
can
collect,
and
you
know
how
we
can
make
that
happen.
So
thank
you.
B
Thank
you
and
one
last
comment,
madam
chair.
If
you
will
indulge
me
many
times
when
you
ask
for
this
type
of
information,
the
first
thing
people
say
is
it's
going
to
be
too
onerous.
B
We
need
to
know
the
socio-economic
status
of
the
people
whose
cars
are
being
towed.
I
will
not
make
any
accusations,
but
I'll
just
say:
this
should
be
something
that
should
be
easily
accomplished
and
if
their
record
keeper
cannot
accomplish
it,
then
we
probably
need
to
add
something
to
the
legislation
that
will
advise
them
where
they
can
get
a
a
computer
program.
That
would
do
that
in
less
than
three
nanoseconds.
A
All
right
any
other
questions
from
members:
okay,
not
seeing
any.
We
will
go
ahead
and
move
to
testimony.
Is
there
anyone
in
person
who'd
like
to
testify
on
ab301.
E
E
This
this
area,
towing
and
immobilization
of
cars,
can
be
very
tricky
at
times
and
the
laws
and
rules
that
govern
it
can
also
be
tricky,
and
it
was
certainly
only
exacerbated
by
the
covid
pandemic
and
the
hardships
that
it
brought.
So
we
are
here
today
in
support,
surely
because
we
appreciate
the
intent
behind
the
legislation,
but
also
because
of
the
work
that
assemblyman
miller
has
done
to
meet
us
in
the
middle
address
our
concerns
and
get
the
bill
to
a
place
where
we
can
support
it.
E
So
we
are
appreciative
of
him
for
that
and
if
I'm
a
senator
spearman,
we
hear
your
concerns
and
we
will
work
with
assemblyman
miller
work
with
you
and
do
what
we
can
to
get
the
answers
that
you're
looking
for
and
can
continue
to
work
in
the
interim
and
over
the
next
sessions
to
address
those
concerns.
Thank
you.
A
M
M
There's
too
many
laws
on
the
books
in
this
state,
as
we
have
learned
very
well
this
session
that
say,
if
you're
poor,
then
you're
going
to
be
punished
with
an
inability
to
get
to
your
job
and
that's
what
towing
somebody's
car
does
if
they
can't
pay
the
tow
fee
right,
we
do
not
have
cities
that
have
the
best
public
transportation,
especially
in
the
girls
we've
seen
this
with
traffic
tickets.
We
see
this
with
license
suspensions.
Now
we
see
it
with
towing.
M
We
and
senator
spearman
is
correct.
When
we
are
talking
about
who
is
the
hot
most
likely
to
be
towed,
it
is
communities
of
color
it
is.
It
is
lower
income
communities,
that's
where
we
see
these
cars
being
towed
and
it
is
extremely
difficult
to
pay.
So
this
bill,
extending
the
time
limit
from
24
to
48
hours
before
you
have
to
pay,
will
help
alleviate
some
of
that
pain.
M
M
If
you
live
in
glenburg
up
at
lake
tahoe
or
if
you
live,
you
know
by
the
airport
in
reno,
a
tow
means
a
major
different
thing
to
different
people,
and
these
reforms
are
modest,
but
we
do
think
they
will
have
a
significant
impact
on
individuals,
and
we
urge
your
support
on
this
spell.
Thank
you
very
much.
H
F
F
Really.
This
is
a
about
a
balance
trying
to
find
a
balance
between
the
property
owner
and
the
vehicle
owners,
and
really
it's
the
two
operator
that
is
the
the
agent
to
try
to
ensure
that
that
balance
exists,
a
lot
of
property
owners.
They
don't
want
abandoned
vehicles
on
on
their
property,
and
that
does
tend
to
happen
and
a
lot
of
times
those
vehicles
aren't
registered.
F
So
we
do
feel
like
we
keep
moving
in
directions
where
we
we
try
to
achieve
more
balance.
We
do
think
that
this
bill
does
help
us
achieve
that
balance
between
the
property
owner
and
the
vehicle
owner
with
the
tow
operator
acting
under
the
regulations
of
the
nevada
transportation
authority-
and
you
know
this
is
really
something
that
we
have
done.
Over
the
15
years,
I've
been
with
the
nevada,
trucking
association,
making
sure
that
you
have
a
wet
signature
from
a
property
owner
before
that
vehicle
is
towed,
that
that
vehicle
has
to
be
there.
F
There
has
to
be
a
specific
request
that
that
vehicle
was
towed,
so
we
do
feel
like
this
is
just
moving
that
balance
a
little
more
to
make
sure
that
we
are
towing
vehicles
properly,
that
people
who
are
properly
parked
that
their
vehicles
aren't
being
towed.
We
do
want
to
say
thank
you
to
assembly
miller
for
working
with
us
on
this
issue
and
happy
to
work
with
the
nevada
transportation
authority
and
get
some
of
the
information
that
senator
spearman
has
asked
for,
because
that
information
doesn't
exist.
F
We
do
keep
records
on
where
the
vehicle
was
towed
when
it
gets
to
the
lot.
How
much
that
storage
was
it's
all
regulated
by
tariff
at
the
nevada
transportation
authority,
so
that
data
does
exist?
How
difficult
is
it
going
to
be
to
get
from
the
nta?
That's
a
question
that
you're
going
to
have
to
ask
them.
Thank
you
for
your.
H
H
H
H
H
Certainly,
chair
callers,
if
you
have
just
joined
the
call
and
would
like
to
provide
testimony
in
support
of
assembly
bill
301,
please
press
star
9
now
to
enter
the
queue.
H
A
H
C
Oh
great,
my
name
is
commissioner
george
assad,
I'm
with
the
nevada
transportation
authority,
I'm
one
of
the
commissioners
here,
commissioner
newton
is
in
the
middle
of
an
impound
hearing,
so
he
was
unable
to
respond
to
senator
hammond's
questioning
and
just
for
the
record,
I
am
in
support
of
ab-301.
I
think
it's
a
good
bill.
C
It
certainly
would
be
a
benefit
to
the
traveling
public
and
it
would
actually
help
the
tow
industry
avoid
issues
as
far
as
record
keeping
the
records
are
kept
with
the
tow
company
and
the
records
should
also
be
kept
with
the
property
owner
or
the
legal
representative
of
the
property
owner.
The
only
time
the
nta
gets
involved
in
any
type
of
record-keeping
issue
is
when
there
is
a
complaint
brought
to
us
by
the
owner
of
the
vehicle
with
that.
If
there
are
any
questions,
I'd
be
happy
to
answer.
A
Thank
you
so
much,
commissioner,
and
I
believe
we
do
actually
have
commissioner
newton
on
the
zoom
at
this
point,
so
senator
hammond,
if
you
wanted
to
reconnect
with
your
old
friend,
this
would
be
the
time.
C
L
A
No
apologies
needed,
commissioner,
it's
great
to
have
you
here
bps
if
we
could
go
back
to
the
line
and
see
if
there's
anyone
else,
who'd
like
to
testify
and
support.
A
H
A
H
N
Cyrus
hojary
c-y-r-u-s
they
cho
j-j-a-t-y
good
afternoon,
we're
very
grateful
to
have
assembly
man
miller
to
bring
up
this
bill.
This
situation
is
very
important
and
I
have
experienced
many
similar
instances
with
towing.
Unfortunately,
I
have
not
read
the
bill
entirely,
but
we're
very
grateful
that
this
issue
is
being
brought
forward.
Thank
you
yield
my
time.
A
K
A
K
K
Inadequate
internet
keeps
people
from
fully
participating
in
remote
activities
that
are
routine
for
those
with
decent
internet
connectivity
like
in
historically
low
wealth
neighborhoods,
where
infrastructure
doesn't
always
support
the
best
broadband
service
available
and
in
nevada's
more
rural
areas.
The
infrastructure
required
for
broadband
simply
may
not
be
available
yet
or
it
will
require
a
large
capital
investment
to
purchase,
right-of-ways
and
dig
trenches
for
the
installation
of
lines,
and
such
now
nevada
has
made
some
progress
as
it
relates
to
infrastructure
and
broadband
access.
K
We
went
from
nearly
one
in
four
students
not
being
connected
to
confirming
that
all
nevada
students
were
connected
in
january.
This
is
progress,
but
we
still
have
a
ways
to
go
and
we
hope
that
what
will
come
out
of
the
federal
government
in
the
near
future
will
get
us
much
closer
to
an
always
totally
connected
nevada.
But
we
can't
wait
on
them.
Our
time
to
act
is
now
and
we
nevadans
must
ensure
that
we
have
our
own
mechanism
in
place.
K
That
is,
forward-thinking,
can
build
on
what
we've
done
and
further
supplement
what
we
expect
to
receive
with
a
goal
of
not
just
closing
the
digital
divide,
but
keeping
it
closed
assembly
bill
388
in
his
first
rep
print.
He
seeks
to
do
exactly
that
by
inviting
all
nevadans
to
take
care
of
our
own
and
ensure
equitable,
reliable
internet
access
is
available
to
every
nevadan,
regardless
of
their
zip
code
neighborhood
or
how
close
they
are
to
a
population
center.
So
how
do
we
do
this?
I'm
glad
you
asked.
K
We
know
that
beginning
may
12th.
The
federal
government
will
begin
accepting
applications
for
the
emergency
broadband
benefit,
which
will
provide
financially
strapped
households.
Access
to
broadband
services
with
50
a
month
benefits
to
cover
the
cost
that
only
partially
solves
the
problem
in
paying
for
it.
K
As
mentioned,
we
also
have
the
issue
of
the
service
being
decent
enough
quality,
the
decent
enough
quality
that
is
actually
usable,
which
requires
infrastructure
projects
to
not
only
catch
us
up,
but
keep
us
going,
and
so,
in
short,
this
is
what
ab388
does
it
requires
the
public
utilities
commission
of
nevada
to
enact
regulations
establishing
a
program
enabling
providers
of
broadband
or
radio
service
radio
service,
also
known
as
wireless
providers
to
participate
in
a
voluntary
contribution
program
for
broadband
infrastructure.
K
Third,
it
requires
on
at
least
a
biennial
basis
that
the
director
of
osit
must
one
collect
and
map
data
concerning
broadband
access,
speed
in
each
county
and
two
prepare
and
submit
a
report
concerning
the
availability
of
broadband
service
in
nevada
to
the
governor
and
the
legislature
and
four.
It
also
requires
osit
to
establish
a
broadband
ready
community
certification
program
to
advance
the
expansion
of
broadband
infrastructure
to
underserved
communities
and
set
forth
provisions
for
this
program.
K
Now
I
have
had
the
pleasure
of
working
with
our
broadband
and
wireless
providers,
as
well
as
the
pucn
and
osid
in
the
development
of
the
bill
in
its
first
reprint.
Now,
as
you
all
know,
bills
almost
always
remain
a
work
in
progress,
and
so
there
is
a
friendly
amendment
proposed
by
pucn
and
osid
that
has
been
accepted.
The
amendment
eliminates
the
use
of
a
third
party
administrator
and
eliminates
the
fiscal
note
chair
at
this
time.
K
O
Thank
you,
chair
harris
appreciate
and
thank
you
assemblyman
miller,
for
bringing
this
important
piece
of
legislation,
and
I
actually
was
going
to
share
my
screen
if
you,
if
you
would
like
chair
harris
just
as
I
walked
through
the
amendment
or
I
can
just
talk
about
it,
it's
your
preference.
O
Okay,
all
right
again,
I
wanted
to
thank
assemblyman
miller
for
bringing
this
important
piece
of
legislation
and
letting
us
participate
in
the
discussions
about
this.
Ab388
debris
twilight
for
the
record
at
the
pucn,
so
our
amendment
here
that
the
colors
are
a
little
bit
all
over
the
map,
but
I
will
address
each
proposed
amendment
from
us
and
osit
and
brian
mitchell
is
also
available
and
I'll.
Let
him
speak
when
we
get
to
the
sections
that
are
particularly
relevant
to
him.
O
O
It's
almost
stale
the
moment
you
put
it
in
and
we
so
we
we're
proposing
to
take
that
out
for
now,
but
it
we
have
you'll
see
in
a
later
portion
that
we're
putting
back
in
the
old
definition
of
broadband
service
that
exists
now,
because
that
that
relates
to
our
jurisdiction-
and
at
this
point
I
haven't,
I'm
sorry
I'm
going
to
try
to
adjust
my
curtains
here.
So
I
don't
have
a
thing
coming
over
my
face.
O
So
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
leave
the
old
definition
of
broadband
service
in
chapter
seven
and
four
of
the
nevada
by
statute,
so
that
we
don't
have
any
jurisdictional
issues
and
it
doesn't
change
our
jurisdiction
at
this
time.
So
first
amendment
would
be
to
delete
the
new
definition
of
broadband
service.
In
section
two.
O
The
amendment
down
to
section
three
changes:
how
the
commission
collects
the
voluntary
contribution
program
or
funds
that
come
in
through
the
voluntary
contribution
program.
The
the
current
amendment
377,
has
those
funds
be
administered
by
the
independent
administrator,
which
is
the
independent
administrator
for
the
nevada
universal
service
fund,
and
we
had
concerns
that
if
the
independent
administrator
administered
those
funds
that
might
add
to
the
cost,
it
would
reduce
the
amount
of
money
available
to
flow
to
osip.
O
So
the
commission
determined
that,
through
its
own
processes,
we
could
handle
that
money
and
make
sure
that
money
we
get
we
get
in
from
the
providers
who
are
voluntarily
participating
in
the
program.
We
can
receive
that
and
then
we
can
immediately
deposit
it
with
a
straight
treasure
and
it
does
not
have
to
go
through
the
independent
administrator.
So
all
these
things
in
red
and
blue
you
see
here
are
to
accomplish
that
goal.
O
The
proposed
amendment
in
section
four
five:
this
is
a
remnant
4.5.
This
is
a
remnant
from
the
original
bill.
O
It
stopped
to
rename
the
fund
to
maintain
the
availability
of
telecommunications
service,
which
is
the
nevada
universal
service
fund.
We
don't
need
to
rename
that
I
this
this
came
out
of
the
separation
of
ab388
from
377,
and
I
don't
think
we
need
to
do
that.
So
that's
why
we're
proposing
to
amend
that
renaming
of
definition.
Obviously,
seven
nrs704.013
will
stay
in
statute
as
it
is.
This
just
delete
the
amendments
to
that
section
of
the
statute.
O
And
then,
as
I
discussed
previously,
the
change
here
in
subsection
four
we're
putting
back
in
the
old
definition
of
broadband
service,
I
recognize
that
this
definition
of
not
less
than
200
kilobits
per
second
is
very
out
of
date
and
sale.
But
this
does
this
section
of
the
statute
does
relate
to
our
jurisdiction,
and
so
we
put
that
definition
back
in
so
that
doesn't
change
our
jurisdiction
at
this
point
in
terms
of
broadband
service.
O
Obviously,
this
this
ab388
does
tweak
the
pocs
jurisdiction
a
bit
to
the
extent
that
a
broadband
provider
does
participate
in
the
voluntary
contribution
program.
But
the
changes
in
our
jurisdiction
are
very
limited
to
this
program.
O
Last
and
then
I
think
the
changes
from
here
on
out,
I
will
let
director
mitchell
go
through,
because
those
all
relate
to
his
his
section
of
the
statute.
His
chapter
of
the
statute.
P
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
committee,
brian
mitchell,
director
of
the
office
of
science,
innovation
and
technology
for
the
record,
and
if
I
could
summarize
just
briefly
the
changes
that
we're
making
it's
really
to
simplify
the
bill,
we
are.
There
were
a
lot
of
changes
that
were
made
and
we
realized.
I
think
that
that
we
could
make
things
a
lot
simpler,
which
would
mean
more
money
in
the
would
go
to
infrastructure
projects
in
the
community
so
section
in
section.
Seven.
P
The
7.3
and
7.5
are
being
eliminated
in
part
due
to
the
change
that
mr
williger
mentioned
above
about
removing
the
updated
definition
of
broadband
service
and
and
then,
if
you
continue
to
scroll
down
and
really
this
will
make
the
the
transfer
of
funding
a
lot
easier
for
for
the
state
and
and
there
won't
be
as
much
money
that
was
caught
up
in
administrative
costs
and
then
section
7.6
paragraphs,
one
and
two
sub
b
and
c
were
also
eliminated,
as
they
are
they're
they're
out
of
date
and
and
and
not
necessarily
more
with
regard
to
how
we
are
going
about
the
bill
at
this
point.
P
So
what
osid
will
do
moving
forward
is
we
will
prepare?
P
We
will
still
be
preparing
a
report
that
has
a
summary
of
the
availability
of
broadband
services
throughout
the
state
and
also
recommendations
for
the
deployment
of
infrastructure
to
underserved
community
underserved
community
communities,
and
we
will
submit
that
to
both
the
legislature
and
the
legislative
council
bureau,
and
we
believe
that
this
language,
as
it
reads
now,
is
a
lot
cleaner.
P
P
A
congress
recently
authorized
the
federal
communications
commission
to
undertake
a
nationwide
mapping
program,
and
so
we
will
rather
than
doing
this
ourselves,
we
will
use
federal
data
from
the
fcc
in
order
to
prepare
this
report
to
you
and
we
believe
this.
This
report
will
be
very
useful
to
the
state
to
highlight
areas
where,
as
assemblyman
miller
mentioned,
where,
where
we
have
good
service
and
where
we
don't
and
and
what
we
can
do
to
improve
that
in
our
goal
towards
universal
coverage.
P
A
A
H
H
Q
Chair
harris
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record,
my
name
is
barry
gold
and
I'm
the
director
of
government
relations
for
aarp
nevada,
although
this
bill
is
being
heard
today
instead
of
yesterday.
My
testimony
today
is
in
honor
of
someone
who
was
and
still
is
in
all
of
our
memories,
a
friend
to
us
all,
assemblyman
tyrone
thompson,
access
to
high-speed
internet
broadband
was
an
issue
that
was
so
important
to
him.
Q
So
let
me
take
a
breath
here
today.
High-Speed
internet
access,
commonly
referred
to
as
broadband
is
essential.
It
enables
older
adults
to
benefit
fully
from
technologies
that
improve
quality
of
life
and
allow
them
to
age
in
place.
This
includes
online
applications
that
enable
people
to
receive
telehealth
services,
connect
with
friends
and
family
shop
for
groceries
and
other
items.
Work
from
home
stream,
entertainment
options,
engage
in
lifelong
learning
activities
and
more
communities
need
the
infrastructure
to
be
able
to
offer
high-speed
infrastructure.
Q
Yet
availability
is
lacking
in
many
parts
of
the
country,
particularly
many
lower,
lower
income
and
rural
areas.
Further,
the
service
must
have
the
capacity
to
support
current
and
future
needs.
The
provisions
of
this
bill
will
enable
the
public
utilities,
commission
and
the
governor's
office
to
address
the
problem
and
provide
incentives
through
grants
for
infrastructure,
specifically
for
low-income
rural
areas,
as
well
as
look
at
broadband
availability
and
speed
across
the
state.
Q
Addressing
the
digital
divide
requires
a
commitment
to
digital
equity,
that
is
everyone,
regardless
of
factors
such
as
age,
race,
ethnicity,
income
level
and
geography
should
have
access
to
affordable,
reliable,
high-speed
internet
service,
so
aarp
nevada,
on
behalf
of
the
345
000
members
across
the
state,
support
ab
388
and
urge
the
committee
to
pass
it
to
improve
access
to
broadband
services
for
nevada
families
across
our
state.
Thank
you.
H
Q
Good
afternoon
cher
harris
vice
chair
brooks
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record.
My
name
is
ariel
edwards
a-r-I-e-l-l-e
ards
on
behalf
of
the
city
of
north
las
vegas
quality
broadband
is
essential
and
provides
communities
with
access
to
health
care,
employment
opportunities,
education
and
more.
It
was
unfortunate
to
see
many
children
here
in
north
las
vegas
during
the
pandemic
attend
school
outside
on
a
sidewalk
by
a
bus
that
was
providing
high
speed
internet
assembly
bill.
388
is
much
needed
in
ensuring
that
infrastructure
is
built
to
increase
accessibility
to
broadband
and
communities.
Q
H
R
P-A-U-L-S-E-N
and
I'm
speaking
today
on
behalf
of
nevada's
for
the
common
good
as
you've
already
heard,
everything
from
applying
for
a
job
renting
a
place
to
live
filling
out
a
loan
application
to
during
this
app
this
pandemic,
trying
to
get
rental
assistance
or
unemployment
insurance
all
depends
on
the
internet.
R
Over
the
last
six,
several
months,
nevadans
for
the
common
good
has
talked
with
numerous
parents
in
our
hispanic
community
whose
children
are
attempting
to
participate
in
online
education.
The
broadband
infrastructure
in
their
neighborhoods
is
often
insufficient
to
support
two
or
more
students
online.
Simultaneously.
R
We
are
very
pleased
to
see
assembly
miller
bringing
this
bill
forward.
We
think
it
is
exciting
and
creative
and
we
are
especially
pleased
that
the
bill
will
have
a
component
to
it
where
we
can
collect
data
so
that
we
can
see
what
our
need
is
and
how
that
need
is
changing
over
time
and
stay,
as
he
said,
on
top
of
the
issue,
nevada
for
the
nevadans
for
the
common
good
stand
strongly
in
support
of
this
bill,
and
we
hope
you
vote
yes
on
it.
Thank
you
for
your.
R
H
H
H
L
T
e,
on
behalf
of
the
retail
association
of
nevada,
first
we'd,
like
to
thank
assemblyman
miller
for
bringing
the
bill
and
bringing
very
much
needed
attention
to
broadband
broadband
infrastructure
and
access
here
in
nevada.
We
would
like
to
register
our
opposition
to
the
bill.
We
do
believe
that
388,
while
well-intentioned,
is
unnecessary
for
several
reasons.
L
L
The
federal
government
has
also
allocated
4
billion
dollars
to
nevada,
specifically
for
broadband
deployment
in
the
state,
and
then
next
week,
as
you
heard,
the
fcc
will
begin
taking
applications
for
the
emergency
broadband
benefit,
which
is
a
3.2
billion
dollar
program
that
40
broadband
providers.
Excuse
me
here
in
nevada,
have
signed
up
to
participate
in
the
program.
H
H
H
N
My
name
is
cyrus
gojadi
c-y-r-u-s-h-o-j-j-a-t-y.
We
understand
it's
very,
very
important
to
increase
broadband
access
and
there's
a
lot
of
people
who
need
it.
It's
going
to
benefit
them
greatly.
The
thing
is
that
there's
some
better
ideas
or
additional
ideas
that
can
be
added
to
this
bill.
Let
me
give
you
my
story.
When
I
lived
in
california,
I
was
getting
low-cost
internet
service
from
a
t
for
ten
dollars
a
month.
N
N
Another
missing
element
that
is
not
talked
about
on
this
bill
is
unlimited
low
cost
or
free
data
service
on
their
phone,
because,
as
you
know,
such
activities
don't
have
to
include
in
the
computer.
It
can
be
done
going
outside.
Let's
say
if
they
have
some
errands,
they
do.
They
want
to
multitask.
They
want
unlimited
data
and
it
can
actually
be
used
as
a
mobile
hotspot
in
case
if
they
can't
get
internet
or
internet
connection
has
been
shot
up.
N
N
H
L
R-A-N-D-Y-B-R-O-O-W-N
on
behalf
of
at
t
we'd,
first
like
to
say,
we
appreciate
the
bill's
sponsors
willingness
to
work
with
us
on
this
measure,
he's
been
collaborative
and
willing
to
consider
many
viewpoints,
as
was
mentioned
by
debris,
mr
williger,
at
the
public
utilities.
Commission.
This
bill
does
provide
for
oversight,
audit
and
complaint
adjudication
by
the
public
utilities,
commission
of
nevada,
where
none
exists
today,
nasa
is
creating
a
disincentive
for
broadband
providers
to
participate.
L
Broadband
is
an
interstate
service
that
is
under
the
jurisdiction
of
the
federal
communications
commission
rather
than
individual
states.
We
have
spoken
with
the
bill
sponsor,
as
well
as
the
director
of
the
governor's
office
of
science,
innovation
and
technology
related
to
the
mapping
component
included
in
this
measure.
As
was
mentioned,
the
fcc
is
currently
undertaking
a
comprehensive
nationwide
mapping
effort
that
will
produce
accurate
and
uniform
maps
depicting
broadband
coverage
at
every
business
and
living
unit
in
the
country.
L
We
appreciate
both
its
recognition
that
using
precious
state
resources
to
duplicate
fcc
efforts
is
not
a
good
idea.
We
appreciate
them
indicating
that
they
intend
to
use
the
fcc
maps
rather
than
creating
their
own
again.
We
appreciate
the
sponsor's
willingness
to
work
with
us
and
thank
you
for
your
time.
L
H
L
L
The
vegas
chamber
is
here
today
in
neutral
on
ab388,
and
we
would
like
to
thank
the
sponsor
for
the
extensive
work
that
he's
done
with
the
stakeholders
to
date
and
look
forward
to
continuing
that
work.
To
get
the
bill
exactly
correct,
as
you've
already
heard
from
some
of
the
other
callers.
There
are
some
duplication
of
effort
and
concerns
about
the
amount
of
money
that
is
already
being
allocated
to
these
broadband
projects.
H
S
Greeting
chair
harris
members
of
the
committee
amber
stidham,
that's
s-t-I-d-h-a-m
with
the
henderson
chamber
of
commerce.
We
are
also
neutral
on
this
position
proposal
and
currently
reviewing
the
amendment.
We
also
appreciate
the
intent
of
this
bill,
although,
like
previous
callers,
we
under
our
understanding
that
some
of
these
companies
have
these
programs
primarily
in
place,
and
additionally,
so
with
some
federal
funding.
S
We
are
also
a
little
bit
puzzled,
but
have
some
questions
on
the
ucn's
potential
involvement
in
oversight,
especially
as
these
businesses
are
already
largely
regulated
by
the
federal
government.
We
just
wanted
to
ensure
that
our
comments
were
also
on
public
record.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your.
H
K
Thank
you,
chair,
ch
miller,
for
the
record.
I
just
like
to
acknowledge
the
mention
from
the
gentleman
from
aarp
of
sims
and
tyrone
thompson.
K
He
first
brought
legislation
that
deals
with
the
digital
divide
back
in
2017,
it
was
ab-111
had
his
forward-thinking
idea
at
that
time
passed.
We
might
not
have
found
ourselves
in
such
an
issue.
During
this
pandemic,
more
families
would
have
had
access
to
internet
as
they
would
have
had
access
through
subsidized
payments
for
the
services
and
to
the
idea
that
you
know
we're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
money
coming
in
from
the
federal
government
to
support
broadband.
K
It
allows
the
community
allows
all
nevadans
to
pitch
in
at
their
will,
knowing
their
goodwill
donations
are
going
to
going
to
help
other
nevadans
have
access
so
that
none
of
our
links
are
weak,
because
we
are
only
as
strong
as
our
weakest
link
right.
K
So
I
just
want
to
encourage
and
ask
for
that
support
in
the
form
of
a
yes
from
your
from
the
committee
and
also
remind
everyone
that
the
participation
from
the
providers
is
voluntary
and
we
worked
very
closely
with
puc
to
ensure
that
their
jurisdiction
was
as
limited
as
possible
to
only
focus
on
the
funds
that
are
coming
through
this
program
and
to
go
no
further
than
that.
K
A
Thank
you
so
much
assemblyman
miller
and
I'm
more
than
happy
to
put
my
position
on
the
record
that
broadband
is
definitely
a
utility
and
I
would
not
be
opposed
to
even
trying
to
get
a
little
bit
more
regulation
in
there.
So
I
appreciate
this
small
step
forward.
Thank
you
so
much
we'll
go
ahead
and
close
out
the
hearing
on
388
and
turn
it
to
public
comment.
Bps.
Anyone
left
on
the
line.
H
N
Cyrus
sejadi
c-y-r-u-s
h-o-j-j-a-t-y,
forgive
me
for
bringing
this
topic
again.
If
I
have
we
can
move
on,
I
think
a
lot
of
these
issues
have
to
do
with
the
high
levels
of
car
dependency
and
the
car
culture
we
have
when
it
comes
to
insurance,
towing
and
everything
like
that.
I
really
hope
that,
in
the
remainder
of
the
session,
we
introduce
bills
that
will
deliver
alternatives
or
will
change
the
urban
planning
system.
N
Urban
planning
issues
is
the
number
one
concern
in
my
opinion,
living
in
the
las
vegas
valley.
We
certainly
could
learn
a
lot
from
our
old
cities,
whether
it's
in
carson
city,
where
you
guys
are
in
or
in
downtown
las
vegas.
There
are
many
issues
of
why
las
vegas
is
very
car,
dependent,
believe
it
or
not.
Las
vegas
is
the
fifth
densest
urban
area
in
the
country,
just
behind
new
york,
urban
area
and
more
dense
than
chicago
and
boston,
but
yet
those
folks
take
transit
and
walk
a
lot
more
often
than
we
do.
N
I
think
that
the
urban
planning
problems
of
las
vegas
can
be
described
as
large-scale
single-use
zoning
filled
with
maze-like
streets
cul-de-sacs
and
all
these
uses
feed
into
these
large
collector
roads,
which
basically
shove
and
collect
a
lot
of
the
traffic
this
system
is
heavily
unsafe,
creates
a
lot
of
accidents.
It
is
costly
to
public
and
private
budgets.
N
N
N
A
All
right,
thank
you.
So
much
with
that,
we
will
be
adjourned
until
monday
may
10th
at
3,
30
pm
see
you
all,
then,
oh
for
committee
members,
we
will
be
rescheduling
our
committee
photo.