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A
C
A
Here
there
are
all
five
members
present
all
right,
just
a
couple
of
daily
reminders.
Please
be
courteous
and
respectful
with
others
during
the
meeting.
Even
if
you
disagree
with
another
person's
position
for
those
participating
on
zoom,
please
be
sure
to
mute.
Your
microphone
when
you
are
not
speaking
since
the
building
is
closed.
Do
the
pandemic.
A
A
A
D
Otherwise,
unable
to
drive
safely
so
that
caused
me
to
consider
you
know
what
I
can
do
that
will
allow
safety
for
cyclists
and,
at
the
same
time,
access
to
all
the
roads
currently
in
use
by
cyclists,
and
so
I
would
say,
without
reading
the
bill
out
loud,
I
would
say
what
this
bill
does
not
do
number
one.
It
does
not
ban
bicycles
from
4
400
miles
of
road
accessed
by
cyclists.
Now
it
does
not
ban
single
file
or
to
abreast
bicyclists.
D
D
D
It
agrees
with
the
lake
mead
recreational
area,
patrol
police
who
say
they
will
give
a
ticket
to
somebody
who
is
riding
to
abreast
or
more
that's
what
the
bill
does
and,
as
I've
been
privileged
to
have
many
emails
and
input.
I've
appreciated
the
input
because
it
allows
me
to
understand
the
nuances
of
words
a
little
better
than
I
was,
and
so
I
have
proposed
a
amendment
that
basically
strikes
out
the
whole
section
dealing
with
hov
lanes.
D
So
that
is
not
in
the
bill
as
to
what
I
am
going
to
present
and
then
in
section
two.
It
clarifies
the
language
so-
and
you
have
this
on
your
exhibits,
it
clarifies
the
language
as
to
what
is
being
done
so
section
subsection.
Four,
for
instance,
let
me
start
with
section
three
I'll
I'll.
D
Then
I
struck
out
the
following
description:
set
aside
for
exclusive
use
of
bicycles,
electric
bicycles
or
electric
scooters,
so
that
last
part
is
struck
out
and
then
section
subsection
four
except
is
otherwise
provided
in
subsections.
Five:
six
and
six
persons,
riding
bicycles,
electric
bicycles
or
electric
scooters
shall
not
ride
upon
a
roadway
with
posted
speed,
limit
of
65
miles
per
hour
or
more.
The
operative
word
in
subsection
four
is
accept
so
many
of
the
emails.
D
I
think
I've
received
read
that
subsection,
for
as
it
was
totally
a
stand-alone
section,
but
in
order
to
understand
it,
you
have
to
refer
to
subsections
five
and
six
and
so
subsections,
five
subsections,
five
and
six
five.
The
provisions
of
subsection
four
do
not
apply
to
a
person
riding
a
bicycle:
electric
bicycle
or
electric
scooter
a
when
preparing
to
turn
left
b
when
in
well
in
the
performance
of
public
work
or
other
official
duties.
D
As
an
employee
of
this
state
or
a
political
subdivision
thereof,
see
when
doing
so
would
not
be
safe,
be
when
using
an
opening
provided
for
the
purpose
of
accessing
a
path
or
part
of
the
roadway
set.
Aside
for
the
exclusive
use
of
bicycles,
electric
bicycles,
electric
scooters,
and
then
I
added
for
clarification
e,
where
there
is
no
shoulder
or
path,
in
which
case
persons,
riding
bicycles,
electrics,
bicycles
or
electric
scooters
shall
not
ride
to
abreast
or
more
than
two
abreast.
D
In
other
words,
there
are
places
in
my
district
where
there
is
a
two-lane
road
and
there
is
literally
no
shoulder
and
the
bicyclist
the
cyclist
is
allowed
to
be
on
those
roads.
We
want
them
to
be
on
those
roads
safely
and
recognizing
that
those
roads
that
have
65
miles
an
hour
or
more
probably,
you
should
not
be
on
that
road
to
abreast
because
of
the
reaction
time
going
around
curves
and
through
little
hills,
such
as
on
the
road
between
searchlight
and
nipton.
D
So
that
is
in
essence
the
bill
and
should
there
be
misgiving,
misgivings
or
apprehensions
by
anyone.
If
there
are
germane
suggestions
to
improve
the
safety
of
cyclists,
I
am
amenable
to
amendments
and
thank
you,
madam
chair.
That
is
my
comments
and
welcome
anybody
to
give
me
good
ideas
and
then
I'll
take
credit
for
him.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
Thank
you,
senator
I'll,
open
it
up
to
any
questions
from
the
committee
at
this.
A
Time
all
right,
I
don't
see
any
so
I'll,
go
ahead.
I
I
have
one.
It
seems
that
you,
you
brought
this
in
hopes
of
making
cycling
a
bit
safer.
Why
is
it
that
you
are
focusing
on
cyclists
as
opposed
to
drivers.
D
I
I
appreciate
the
question
madam
chair:
the
drivers
literally
will
become
criminals.
If
they
run
into
a
cyclist,
they
are
the
ones
that
will
win
any
battle
between
a
car
and
a
cyclist.
The
car,
the
truck
will
win.
So
it
would
be
great
to
say
we
don't
allow
any
drinking
and
driving.
We
don't
allow
any
drugs
and
driving.
D
We
already
have
done
that,
so
it
would
be
great
if
we
had
signs
share
the
road
we
do
that
it
would
be
great
if
we
said
you
can't
be
within
three
feet
of
a
cyclist.
We've
done
that.
So
all
of
those
things
that
we've
done
are
good
and
if
there's
somebody
that
has
another
thing
that
we
can
do
with
the
drivers
that
will
prevent
alcoholism
or
anything,
that's
inebriated
in
any
way,
I
would
love
to
be
able
to
have
something
that
is
successful,
that
we
can
say
that
will
work.
D
E
Thank
you,
chair
harris
senator
hardy,
I'm
just
I'm
trying
to
make
sense
of
or
understand
the
the
amendment
that
you
offered.
E
D
The
amendment
that
I'm
making
to
section
one
will
be
removed
entirely,
in
other
words,
I'm
not
trying
to
I'm
not
trying
to
disrupt
hovs.
I
I
talked
if
it.
If
you
don't
mind,
I
talked
with
the
department
of
transportation
people
and
they
are
on
it,
they're,
understanding
it
and
me,
meddling
with
it,
is
probably
not
a
wise
idea.
E
F
F
F
A
A
Go
ahead
caller
just
please
spell
your
name
for
us
and
you
can
proceed
with
your
testimony.
G
I'm
in
support
of
the
bill,
because
I
think
there
is
added
measure
to
protect
cyclists.
I
consider
myself
an
avid
cyclist
and
it
would
be
a
shame
if
motorists
are
are
blamed
for
something
that
they
they
didn't
intend
on,
creating
or
causing
if
they
were
unimpaired,
and
that
happened
also.
I
really
think
there
needs
to
be
added
emphasis
on
and
direction
on
on
what
cyclists
can
do
where
they
can
ride
and
certainly
something
a
highway
or
freeway
that
has
a
65
mile
an
hour.
F
F
F
F
G
Hi,
my
name
is
tony
mineta
and
I
am
for
this
bill,
but
my
concern
is
for
the
people
who
are
driving
automobiles.
They
don't
understand
cyclists
and
I
think
it
should
be
where
people
are
getting
their
driver's
license
or
taking
a
driver's
test.
There
needs
to
be
information
in
that
to
let
people
know
about
cycling,
the
rules
of
cycling
and
what
they
need
to
look
for
by
giving
a
cyclist
a
three-foot
clearance.
H
G
And
I
get
a
lot
of
motorists
because
I'm
a
little
cyclist
myself.
I
get
a
lot
of
motorists
that
actually
cut
me
right
off
the
road
a
lot
of
times
a
lot
of
the
roads
out
there.
Motorists
are
speedy,
for
example,
rancho
road,
it's
45
miles
an
hour.
There's
people
doing
70
35
miles
an
hour
down
right,
showing
they're
not
getting
cool
while
they're
getting
ticketed
roads
like
china
going
to
azure
street,
that's
35
miles
an
hour.
G
There's
people
going
down
in
45,
50
miles
an
hour,
breaking
speed
and
they're,
not
getting
pulled
over
and
that's
unsafe
for
cycles.
Ever
since
I
started
cycling
five
years
ago,
it's
changed
my
driving
habits,
and
now
I
am
more
aware
of
what's
going
on
around
me
and
but
it's
sad
that
motorists
out
there
do
not
understand
cycling
or
cycle
apps.
C
F
F
F
I
G-U-T-M-A-N-D-O-D-S-O-N
and
we're
calling
into
the
in
support
today
for
this
common-sense
way
to
share
the
road
safely
like
the
bill
sponsor
mentioned,
cars
will
always
win
against
a
bike
and
a
cyclist,
and
this
is
a
good
practice
for
cyclists
to
ensure
that
they're
also
doing
their
part
in
sharing
the
road.
We
wanted
to
thank
the
bill
sponsor
for
answering
some
questions
we
had
earlier
this
morning
and
clarifying
any
other
language
that
may
have
been
confusing
so
we're
in
support
of
this
bill,
and
we
appreciate
the
bill
coming
forward.
Thank
you.
F
F
F
J
Hi,
my
name
is
michael
bell:
m-I-c-h-a-e-l-b-e-l-l,
I'm
calling
in
regards
to
this
bill.
I
feel
that
this
bill
is
a
restriction
to
the
places
that
I
like
to
ride
my
bike
to,
for
example,
up
to
mount
potency.
I've
made
that
ride
several
times
and
with
no
problems,
and
I
feel
that
restricting
places
where
we
can
ride
is
is
un-american
america.
All
americans
have
the
right
to
travel
freely.
J
Obviously
we're
not
going
to
be
traveling
on
the
freeway.
That's
not
allowed
and
not
acceptable
or
smart,
but
this
is
a
slippery
slope
that
this
legislator
is
proposing
to
ban
travel
in
any
form,
and
I
don't
feel
it's
it's
american
at
all.
We
don't
need
to
have
restrictions.
What
we
need
is
building
bike
paths.
There's
no
reason
why
this
state
hasn't
built
bike
paths
here,
especially
here
in
clark,
county
red
rock,
is
a
perfect
example,
and
we
need
a
desperately
need
a
bike
path
for
red
rock.
J
J
F
I
Excuse
me
good
afternoon:
this
is
lisa
mayo,
l-I-s-a
m-a-y-o,
and
I'm
calling
today
because
I
appreciate
what
senator
hardy
is
trying
to
do
with
this
bill,
and
that
is
to
protect
cyclists.
However,
I
still
think,
with
the
current
amendments,
it's
too
restrictive
for
a
lot
of
people
that
are
cycling
in
our
community
in
2020
it
was
the
biggest
boom
for
cycling
since
1973,
and
many
people
in
las
vegas
and
nevada
have
now
taken
up
cycling
for
many
reasons:
regular
transportation,
recreation.
I
In
addition,
we
have
thousands
of
cyclists
who
come
across
the
country
in
cross-country,
bicycling
tours
and
so
forth
that
come
into
nevada,
and
this
would
be
very
resist.
The
way
it's
written
now
would
be
very
restrictive
to
that
those
people.
So
what
I'd
like
to
suggest
to
seger
hardy?
F
G
Dear
chairperson,
harris
and
respective
committee
members,
we
would
like
to
submit
for
the
record
that
the
southern
nevada
bike,
sickle
coalition,
which
is
a
bicycle
advocacy
group
representing
thousands
of
cyclists
in
our
state,
is
strongly
opposed
to
sb
183
as
written
while
the
intent
is
lowable.
The
effect
of
the
ban.
The
effect
is
to
ban
cyclists
from
the
vast
majority
of
highways
in
nevada
and
since
nevada
is
entirely
connected
by
these
conduits
cycling
across
the
state
or
doing
various
types
of
longer
distance,
bicycle
rides
would
become
illegal.
G
As
is
adding
additional
cycling
infrastructure,
bike
lanes,
paths,
bike
trails
and,
of
course,
lowering
speed
limits
if
65
is
determined
to
be
too
fast
for
drivers
and
cyclists,
any
of
these
would
be
a
better
approach
to
keeping
bicyclists
and
all
roadways
users
safer
without
taking
away
all
the
routes
we
write
on.
We
recognize
the
intent
of
sb
183
to
avoid
a
repeat
of
the
recent
tragedy
that
killed
five
of
my
friends
cyclists.
However,
we
think
the
bill
as
written
is
the
wrong
approach.
G
G
F
K
Hi,
my
name
is
matt
carter,
m-a-t-t
c-a-r-t-e-r
and
I'm
a
cyclist
in
southern
nevada.
I
ride
with
green
valley,
cyclists
and
a
member
of
southern
radar
bike
coalition,
and
I
too
am
against
the
sb-183
for
multiple
reasons.
I
travel
all
around
the
state
of
nevada
and
many
routes
between
local
localities
like
carson
city
and
minden.
K
Blue
diamond
road,
as
we
mentioned
before,
but
mount
podesy
is
a
very
common
right.
It's
the
only
way
to
access
redrock
conservation
area
from
the
south
valley
and
that's
a
65
mile,
an
hour
zone.
We
all
have
to
write
it.
We
all
write
it
multiple
times,
often
multiple
times
a
month
and
blocking
access
for
those
riders
to
do.
That
is
a
poor,
a
poor
solution
to
the
problem.
F
F
C
C-A-R-L-O-L-U-R-I-
and
I
am
the
advocacy
coordinator
for
the
alf
alpena
cycling
club-
also
resident
of
douglas
county
nevada,
and
let
me
begin
by
saying
that,
as
a
cyclist,
I
appreciate
senator
hardy's
concern
for
our
welfare
and
understand
that
he
had
the
best
intents,
but
like
many
of
the
other
callers.
C
I
I
think
that
that's
really
not
at
issue
here,
as
written
as
it
came
out
in
the
publication,
strongly
opposed
to
the
way
the
bill
was
written.
C
We
reserved
the
right
to
review
the
changes
that
senator
hardy
has
proposed
if,
in
fact,
it
does
not
make
illegal
cycling
on
4
400
miles
of
nevada's
roads,
this
would
be
greatly
improved
from
what
first
came
out,
but
really,
as
as
many
of
the
other
callers
pointed
out.
This
is
the
wrong
approach
to
cycler
safety
right,
cyclist,
safety.
The
the
right
approach
is
to
is
to
greater
enforcement
of
motor
vehicle
laws
and
impaired
driver,
better
education.
C
Better
cycling
infrastructure,
including
protected
bike
lanes,
reducing
the
speed
limit
where
appropriate
and
and
enforcing
that
speed
limit.
So
those
are
those
are
the
right
approaches,
and
I
too
would
love
to
see
this
bill
turn
into
a
cycling
safety
bill
that
addresses
the
cause
and
not
the
victim
of
of
the
of
the
of
the
issue
here.
So
thank
you
again
for
allowing
me
to
speak
I'll.
C
Just
add
that
this,
if
passed
the
way
written,
it
would
have
an
outsized
impact
on
rural
counties,
where
we
have
large
stretches
of
road
that
are
65
miles
an
hour
and
connect
our
communities.
Thank.
F
F
F
K
K
K
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
review
the
proposed
amendment
from
senator
hardy
and
honestly.
I
do
not
understand
it.
The
exceptions
that
are
stated
in
section
5
are
cut
and
pasted
from
nrs
484b
777,
which
applies
to
writing
on
the
right
side
of
the
road.
It
doesn't
address
the
concerns
raised
by
cyclists
in
any
way,
and
also
since
there
have
been
statements
with
regards
to
writing
to
abreast
nrs
484b
777
already
addresses
writing
to
abreast
in
nevada.
K
I
do
not
fault
senator
hardy
for
trying.
I
served
with
him
in
the
state
senate
and
know
he
is
an
honorable
man,
but
this
is
the
wrong
solution
to
the
problem.
Cyclists
have
the
same
right
to
use
our
roadways
as
motorists,
that
is
nevada
law.
I've
worked
with
chair
harris
on
legislation
to
ensure
better
education
of
cycling
laws
to
make
cycling
safer.
That
is
where
we
should
focus
our
attention,
not
on
banning
cycling
on
many
of
our
roadways.
Thank.
F
F
I
I
am
the
wife
of
one
of
the
victims
of
the
newton
tribe.
I
am
also
a
regular
cyclist.
I
I
very
much
appreciate
chair
harrison,
allowing
us
to
speak
regarding
this
bill.
I
also
appreciate
senator
hardy
for
what
he's
trying
to
do
and
thank
you
community
members,
but
I
would
like
to
say
that,
as
a
cyclist
and
as
the
wife
of
an
avid
cyclist
that
was
killed,
I
don't
believe
that
the
bill
fully
does
what
it's
aiming
to
do,
which
is
to
protect
cyclists.
I
Better,
better
notification
of
these
when
testing
to
ensure
people
have
an
understanding
making
sure
that
there
are
regular
drives
to
remind
people
of
all
of
these
facts
and
not
make
cyclists
the
target
and
not
make
them
a
criminal
on
the
road,
but
to
try
to
ensure
that
people
understand
that
they
have
the
same
rights
on
the
road
as
others
and
to
be
more
careful,
I
would
like
to
add
that
I
used
to
work
in
a
field
whereby
safety
was
our
biggest
protocol
on
onboard
cruise
ship,
and
I
was
subject
to
random
alcohol
test
at
any
point
during
my
career
on
the
ship
to
ensure
that,
if
anything
did
happen,
while
the
ship
was
at
sea
that
I
was
fully
capable
of
helping
people
disembark
the
ship
helping
with
the
security
protocols.
I
F
F
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee.
For
the
record.
My
name
is
kyle
davis,
and
I
am
here
today
on
behalf
of
the
nevada
conservation
league.
We
are
here
in
opposition
to
this
bill,
as
introduced
for
many
of
the
same
reasons
that
you've
heard
before
outdoor
recreation
is
a
priority
of
our
organization
and
helping
people.
The
bands
be
able
to
enjoy
the
great
outdoors
and
we
have
concerns
with
the
way
that
the
bill
is
drafted.
That
would
take
away
some
of
these
opportunities.
G
I
have
seen
that
there
is
an
amendment
available
on
nellis.
We
have
not
had
the
chance
to
fully
digest
the
amendment,
so
it
is
entirely
possible
that
the
amendment
may
take
care
of
some
of
our
concerns,
but
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
were
on
the
record
what
the
bill
has
introduced
and
certainly
look
forward
to
working
with
senator
hardy
and
the
committee
to
potentially
reach
something
that
adequately
protects
cyclists,
while
still
allowing
for
this
forward
boundary
recreation
to
to
continue.
Thank
you.
F
Thank
you
caller.
If
there
are
any
more
callers
who
have
just
joined
us
and
wish
to
testify
in
opposition
to
senate
bill
183,
please
press
star
9
now
to
enter
the.
F
L
L
I
put
7
500
miles
on
my
bike
last
year
and
the
majority
of
those
miles
are
on
highways
that
are
in
excess
of
65
or
65
miles
an
hour,
and
so
you
know
doing
this
would
be
restricting
me
to
riding
my
bike
on
main
street
all
day,
and
so
that
would
not
be
obviously
very
fun
or
anything
else
going
through
there,
and
so
I
don't
think
it's
fair.
I
mean
unless
there's
a
lot
of
the
comments.
L
I
agree
with
a
lot
of
the
comments
that
are
being
said.
Is
you
know
this
is
penalizing
the
victims
of
the
situation
as
a
cyclist,
I
know
the
risk
that
I'm
taking
going
out
there,
and
so
you
know
I
request
you
not
to
put
these
restrictions
on
me
to
not
allow
me
to
go
and
do
what
I
do.
This
would
totally
change
my
whole
lifestyle,
and
I
have
to
find
something
new
to
do.
L
I
guess
and
how
unfair
to
come
in
here
and
take
a
tragedy,
and
you
know
I
appreciate
the
trying
to
make
improvements
and
safety
improvements
out
there,
but
I
don't
believe
making
the
cyclists
any
safer
by
taking
our
freedoms
away
from
us
and
not
allowing
us
to
write
what's
available
to
us.
L
You
know
I
don't
have
bike
paths,
I
don't
have
a
little
thing
to
ride
around
and
hear
that
highways
are
my
only
thing
I
can
ride
and
this
I'm
very
much
opposed
to
this,
and
I
hope
that
we
can
find
some
other
type
of
solution
with
the
intent
of
mind
of
keeping
the
cyclas
safe
out
there.
L
One
thing
that
may
not
have
anything
to
do
with
the
bill,
but
you
know
possibly
endo,
can
come
in
here
and
assist
in
keeping
some
of
these
shoulders
clean.
You
know
it's
the
debris
and
such
on
your
shoulders
that
possibly
sometimes
push
the
cyclist
closer
to
the
road
in
a
more
dangerous
situation,
and-
and
you
know
I'm
just
saying
as
a
possible
solution
to
coming
here-
to
help
some
of
the
safety
issues
rather
than
banning
us
from
the
highways.
Thank
you.
F
M
M
M
Lord
knows
running
ghost
bike
las
vegas,
which,
if
you
don't
know,
we
set
white
bikes
where
we've
had
a
motor,
a
cyclist
fatality,
a
cyclist
killed
by
a
motorist
and
I've.
I've
set
way
too
many
of
them.
My
goal
would
be
to
definitely
never
set
another
one,
if
I
truth
be
known,
but-
and
I'd
like
to
I'd
like
to
thank
senator
hardy,
because
I
I
honestly
do
believe
that
he,
his
intentions
were
good.
M
His
and
those
of
us
in
the
cycle
community
were
all
too
tired
of
not
seeing
action,
not
seeing
change,
and
I
do
believe
that
his
intent
was
to
create
change
and
take
action
to
do
that.
But,
as
a
couple
the
people
have
said
very
well.
I
would
like
to
speaking
for
the
cycling
community,
at
least
here
in
southern
nevada.
M
But
I
don't
know
if
everybody
picked
up
on
angel
on
that
it
was
about
three
or
four
speakers.
Before
myself,
when
we
talk
about
victim,
shaming
angela's
husband
was
one
of
the
five
that
were
killed
in
that
accident,
and
she
was
felt
so
strongly
that
this
bill
would
not
do
anything
other
than
hurt
the
victims
and
the
people
who
were
trying
to
stay
safe
out
there.
M
It
would
only
hurt
them
so
once
again,
I'm
going
to
ask
that
this
bill
not
go
forward
and
that
the
lawmakers
get
together
with
us
and
I'm
going
to
you
and
I'm
going
to
end
with
a
lot
of
the
changes
that
we
would
like
to
see
happen
are
not
going
to
help
are
not
going
to
solely
help
just
cyclists
as
angela
put
it.
If
we
can,
cyclists
need
lots
of
or
we
would
love
to
have
infrastructure.
We
would
love
to
have
pathways
off
of
the
roads.
M
There
is
infrastructure
we
would
love
to
have
like
that,
but,
as
angela
put
it,
let's
face
it
most
of
our
motorway
fatalities,
whether
it's
cyclists,
runners,
pedestrians,
motorcyclists
or
other
motorists
are
from
distracted,
impaired
drivers,
and
we
all
need
to
work
together
to
do
away
with
that.
While
we
actually
hit
these
problems
face
or
head
on
versus
trying
to
eliminate
what
wasn't
ever
the
problem
in
the
first
place
so
anyway
I'll
wrap
that
up,
I
said
I
wouldn't
go
too
long.
Thank
you
again
for
hearing
us.
M
F
F
F
G
G
I
do
a
lot
of
mountain
climbing
to
get
in
shape
for
gran
fondo
bike
races
up
in
mammoth
in
the
big
bear
gran
fondo,
because
the
elevation
I
ride
potency
I
ride
from
north
las
vegas
airport
out
to
boulder
city,
and
I
get
on
the
highway
there
at
wagon
wheel
and
go
to
boulder
city
and
then
come
back.
I
ride
also
a
lot
in
california
on
the
coast.
Highway
and
california
doesn't
restrict
cyclists.
G
A
And
sir,
I'm
sir
I'm
going
to
have
to
ask
you
to
move
on
at
this
point
since
we've
already
had
you
testify,
we've
got
to
get
through
a
list
of
people
who
haven't
had
a
chance
to
speak
yet,
but
we
have
noted
your
opposition.
F
F
A
F
F
N
Okay,
I'm
in
opposition,
but
I
pressed
the
neutral
one
because
for
some
reason
I
didn't
get
called
during
that
time
frame.
So
can
I
speak
now
sure?
N
A
That
ma'am,
I'm
sorry
before
you
begin.
Could
you
please
go
ahead
and
state
your
name
and
spell
it
for
the
record.
N
I'm
the
president
same
red
rock,
was
founded
upon
principles
of
cycling.
Safety.
Red
rock
is
one
of
the
most
popular
cycling
areas
in
the
state.
That
is
why
we
are
working
but
look
picture.
Tourism
is
important
to
nevada,
especially
small
town.
Nevada.
Nevada
is
one
of
the
greatest
states
to
ride
because
of
the
year-round
sunshine
and
wide
open
lightly.
Traveled
well-kept
roads.
Nevada
is
also
a
big
part
of
three
of
the
most
popular
cross-country
cycling
routes
in
america,
and
it
is
about
to
become
even
more
popular
with
the
market
explosion
of
electric
bikes.
N
No
other
state
can
claim
so
many
good
cycling
conditions.
No
other
state
small
towns
rely
so
much
on
visitors,
including
cross-country
bikers
with
their
teams
and
support.
Crews
riding
to
abreast
is
legal
and
has
always
been
legal.
It
is
important
for
training
and
safety
to
go
in
pairs.
Riding
alone
is
also
an
important
right
for
health
and
fitness
reasons,
and,
as
we've
learned
this
past
year,
even
for
mental
health
reasons
we
could
all
use,
we
could
all
benefit
from
the
freedom
of
cycling
open
roads.
N
Will
you
work
together
with
us
for
solutions
instead
of
creating
addition?
An
additional
law
with
restrictions.
We
need
someone
to
champion
safety
laws
that
are
already
in
effect,
but
for
which
there
is
little
education
or
enforcement.
These
are
the
three
foot
move
over
law
and
the
dui
driving
impaired
law.
The
only
thing
worse
than
ignoring
these
is
taking
away
rights
and
ruining
rural
tourism
and
ignoring
nevada's
best
natural
resource,
our
beautiful
weather.
N
If
it
is
about
taking
away
riots,
we
will
never
support
that
if
it
is
about
safety,
we
have
solutions,
and
we
appreciate
your
approach
to
trying
to
find
solutions.
We
just
think
that
working
together
will
help
listen
to
the
cyclist.
Nobody
cares
more
about
safety
than
cyclists,
whose
lives
are
at
stake
every
single
time
they
ride.
N
Save
redrock
and
the
southern
nevada
by
bicycle
coalition
have
been
working
on
cycling
safety
for
decades,
and
we
have
specific
policies
and
bills
ready
to
go
that
can
make
all
the
difference
if
you'll
just
listen
to
us
and
we,
if,
if
we
can
just
work
together
with
you
on
your
bill,
we
think
that
a
cooperative
bill
could
be
amazing
for
all
involved
on
behalf
of
save
redrock
and
cycling
in
southern
nevada.
We
thank
you
for
this
effort
and
we
plead
with
you
to
work
with
us
to
find
solutions.
Thank
you.
F
Thank
you
caller
chair.
Would
you
like
me
to
ask
if
there
are
more
callers
in
opposition
to
the
bill,
or
would
you
like
to
move
on
to
neutral
again.
F
Absolutely
callers
if
you'd
like
to
testify
in
a
neutral
position
for
senate
bill
183,
please
press
star
9
now
to
enter
the
queue
once
again.
That
is
for
testimony
in
a
neutral
position
for
senate
bill
183
and
is
star
9.
F
A
B
Thank
you
very
much
good
afternoon,
chair
harris
and
members
of
the
committee
sandra
rosenberg
nevada,
department
of
transportation
assistant
director
for
planning
for
the
church.
We
appreciate
senator
hardy's
intent
and
willingness
to
meet
with
us
and
discuss
the
options
on
this
bill
and
that
we'll
need
to
review
the
new
language
to
fully
determine
the
impacts.
B
Ndot
does
want
to
ensure
that
we
balance
our
top
priority
of
safety
with
other
goals
as
to
optimize
mobility,
foster
sustainability
and
connect
communities.
In
addition,
our
safety
program
is
focused
on
determining
the
leading
causes
of
fatalities
based
on
data.
Cycling
is
not
one
of
those
and,
in
fact,
in
the
in
the
most
recent
years
where
we
have
verified
safety
data
2015
to
2019,
there
were
41
cycling
fatalities,
none
of
which
occurred
on
facilities
with
a
speed
limit
of
65
miles
per
hour
or
higher.
B
Obviously,
that
timeline
does
not
include
the
tragic
events
of
last
december.
The
majority
of
bicycle
crashes
occur
in
urbanized
areas
where
there
are
more
conflict
points
due
to
intersections
driveways
variety
of
vehicle
movements.
This
is
not
what
it
meant
in
any
way
to
diminish
the
tragic
events
of
last
december
or
the
need
for
enhanced
safety
considerations
and
improvements
for
bicyclists
and
other
active
transportation
users,
but
thought
it
was
important
to
understand
the
scope
of
the
problem
we're
trying
to
address
on
the
overall
system.
B
A
All
right,
thank
you,
and
for
the
record
and
for
committee
members
information,
there
are
several
letters
in
opposition
to
sb
183,
also
on
nellis
listed
under
the
exhibits
at
this
time.
I
will
turn
it
back
over
to
you
sandra
hardy.
If
you'd
like
to
make
any
closing
comments.
A
D
The
victim
in
a
car
bicycle
crash
is
going
to
be
the
bicyclist,
and
I
feel
strongly
that
we
need
to
do
as
much
as
we
can
to
protect
people,
and
I
welcome
the
opportunity
to
meet
with
people
and
resolve
whatever
concerns
they
do
and
feel
compelled
to
try
to
do
whatever
we
can
urban,
wise
and
otherwise
to
protect
cyclists
and
to
get
people
off
the
road
who
shouldn't
be
driving
their
car.
A
D
Is
it's
a
way
for
the
legislature
and
the
citizens
of
nevada
to
decide
how
we
are
mining,
solar
or
wind
or
geothermal
or
other
renewable
sources,
and
is
there
something
that
we
in
the
state
of
nevada,
have
earned
the
right
to
have
not
just
knowledge
but
potentially
we're
making
a
investment
in
our
land?
And
should
there
be
something
that
we
need
to
understand
what
that
is
and
where
we're
going
with
that?
D
So
this
is
a
a
bill
that
tries
to
get
the
public
utilities
commission
to
be
the
organization
that
does
that
we
have
the
office
of
energy
with
the
governor's
office
that
has
put
off
that
has
put
out
many
gloss
things
that
list
a
lot
of
things.
I
think
where
I'm
coming
from
is:
do
we
have
enough
for
ourselves?
Do
we
have
enough
to
share?
D
Do
we
deserve
some
way
to
get
recompense
for
what
we
share
as
citizens
of
the
state,
or
is
that
going
to
go
just
to
excuse
me,
the
investors,
and
what
is
the
role
of
the
puc
in
approving
solar
projects
as
it
were,
and
doing
more
than
that.
D
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Senator
hardy
I'll
also
note
that
we
have
some
folks
from
the
public
utilities
commission
on
the
line,
who
might
also
be
able
to
answer
any
questions.
E
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
and-
and
I
want
to
go
to
section
1
four
paragraph
four-
where
the
bill
requires
the
public
utilities
commission
to
estimate
the
amount
of
land
that
will
be
required
in
the
future,
satisfy
the
requirements
set
forth
and
then
you
list
the
nevada
constitution.
E
D
So
I
appreciate
the
question
realistically:
for
instance,
solar
has
to
have
a
certain
grade
as
six
percent
or
eight
percent
grade
to
be
fully
to
expedite.
However
much
energy
they
do
so.
I
think
there
is
a
mapping
portion
of
this
that
you
know
how
much
land
do
we
have,
how
much
land
can
is
usable,
for
instance,
239,
000,
acres
between
laughlin
and
boulder
city.
D
You
know
is
that
land
something
that
we
want
to
recognize
it's
accessible
or
do
we
say
you
know,
even
though
that's
accessible
land,
we
don't
want
to
use
it.
D
So
I
think
if
we
have
a
topographic
map,
as
it
were
in
computer
world,
we
can
say
we
have
x
number
of
acres
like
239
000
acres,
for
instance,
that
is
usable
for
solar
in
my
district
and
my
district
probably
has
more
renewable
energy
in
the
state
than
any
other
district,
and
so
I'm
a
little
sensitive
to
how
many
acres
we
have
that
are
usable
and
and
how
we're
going
to
use
it.
What
what's
our
priority?
D
E
Well,
I
appreciate
that
your
confidence
in
my
my
knowledge
on
on
some
of
these
issues,
but
I
also
I'm
curious
when
we
talk
about
the
generation,
the
the
footprint
of
generation.
Would
you,
for
instance,
consider
the
entire
all
the
entirety
of
lake
mead
to
factor
into
the
footprint
of
the
power
generation
required
from
that
zero
carbon
energy?
That
now
is
considered
applicable
under
our
current
rps.
D
I
appreciate
that
question
because
lake
mead
obviously
is
potential
energy
and
potential
renewable
energy
and,
depending
on
how
full
the
lake
is,
depends
on
how
many
acres
are
involved
with
producing
that
energy.
So
the
fuller,
the
lake,
is
the
more
potential
energy
you
have
and
that
acreage
will
change
depending
on
how
full
the
lake
is.
So
if,
if
you
took
the
lake
at
its
peak
and
take
the
lake
at
its
now,
you
have
a
differential
of
how
much
is
available
for
renewable
energy
in
the
hydro
scheme
of
it.
E
With
my
mute
button
today,
I
apologize
thank
you
for
that
answer.
Senator
hardy
and
I
don't
have
any
further
questions
chair.
F
F
G
Thank
you.
My
name
is
martin
canaus
n-a-r-t-I-n.
G
G
F
Thank
you
caller.
If
there
are
any
more
callers
wishing
to
testify
in
support
of
senate
bill
197,
please
press
star
9
now
to
do
so
once
again,
that
is
star
9
now
for
support
of
senate
bill.
F
F
G
Hi,
my
name
is
tony
manhattan.
My
last
name
is
m-a-n-I-t-p-a
the
person
in
the
clay.
My
comments
are:
this
is
for
about
renewable
energy.
G
G
If
you
have
an
emergency
now
with
all
the
solar
panels,
there
there's
no
way
you
can
land
there,
and
it's
really
sad
for
the
aviation
community
that
more
and
more
land
is
being
taken
up,
even
with
windmills
that
we
can't
matter
airplanes.
If
we
have
an
emergency-
and
you
guys
really
need
to
take
into
consideration
that
there's
a
lot
of
general
aviation
out
there
and
you
know
we
don't
have
a
place
to
land
ran
out
in
the
desert
in
the
bushes
and
stuff,
most
likely
90
of
the
time
you're
going
to
be
killed.
F
F
F
F
H
Good
afternoon
tara
harris
vice
chair
brooks
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record.
My
name
is
jennifer
taylor,
j
e
n
n.
I
f
e
r
taylor
t
a
y
l,
o
r,
and
I
am
honored
to
serve
as
the
deputy
director
for
intergovernmental
relations
in
the
governor's
office
of
energy.
I'm
here
to
offer
neutral
testimony
for
senate
bill
197
and
to
provide
some
helpful
information
around
the
data
that
would
be
required
by
the
spill.
Some
of
its
potential
sources
and
limitations.
H
Eia's
electricity
data
is
primarily
provided
by
survey
respondents
with
some
data
elements
that
are
pulled
from
third-party
sources,
included
in
eia's
reporting
that
could
provide
some
of
the
information
for
section
one
paragraphs.
One
and
two
are
the
state
electricity
profiles
which
provide
a
number
of
data
sets,
including
a
state's
net
generation
and
net
interstate
exports
under
the
supply
and
disposition
tab
and
the
electricity
data
browser
which
provides
information
on
the
renewable
energy
used
for
electricity
generation
inside
nevada.
H
H
Additionally,
eia
data
has
a
time
lag
in
reporting
that
stems
from
the
need
to
obtain
and
finalize
the
respondent
feedback
that,
as
I
noted,
is
its
primary
data
source.
As
such,
it
takes
eia
until
late
fall
each
year
to
finalize
and
release
the
electric
power
data
from
the
previous
year.
Eia's
current
data
years
2019
and
2020
data
will
not
be
released
until
late
2021..
H
Excess
supply
generated
in
state
may
be
sold
into
those
markets,
which
then
is
which
then
utilize
those
resources
to
balance
the
entire
system,
both
in
and
out
of
state
section
1.
Paragraph
4
seeks
an
estimate
of
the
land
in
this
state
which
is
currently
used
to
generate
renewable
energy
for
in-state
customers
and
an
estimate
of
the
amount
of
land
that
will
be
required
in
the
future
to
satisfy
the
rps.
H
H
If
the
data
spot
under
this
bill
provides
the
state
benefits,
it
might
provide
an
additional
benefit
to
expand
this
assessment
to
all
sources
of
energy
generation
and
not
merely
renewable
energy
sources.
Thank
you
committee
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
on
this
bill
and
I
stand
available.
Should
there
be
any
questions.
O
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
appreciate
that
it
sounds
like
then.
The
information
that's
being
required
under
section
one,
with
the
possible
exception
of
an
estimate
of
land
that
might
be
needed
in
the
future,
is
available,
though
not
delivered
directly
to
the
department
and
maybe
not
all,
based
on
the
same
time
frame,
but
it
it
sounds
like
that
information
is
available.
Is
that
a
fair
statement.
H
Chairwoman
harris
threw
you
to
senator
pickard
for
the
record
jennifer
taylor,
governor's
office
of
energy,
senator
pickard.
The
the
data
that
is
being
requested
does
include
off
takers
from
the
bill,
and
that
is
not
available
through
eia
and
with
my
research.
I
am
not
currently
available
currently
aware
of
how
you
might
be
able
to
find
that
specific
information
other
than
going
to
the
generators
themselves
to
ask
who
their
off
takers
are
in
their
contracts.
H
There
are
a
couple
of
other
items
that
I
think
is
in
that
I
think
are
requested
in
the
bill
that
may
not
be
fully
available
through
eia.
We
would
have
to
track
all
the
eia
data
with
what
the
requests
in
one
through
three
four
section.
One
of
the
bill
would
require.
O
O
I
mean
it's
impossible
for
us
to
make
an
estimate
of
of
whether
or
not
we
can
even
meet
these
requirements.
If
we
don't
have
an
understanding
of
what's
available
and
and
what
we
may
need.
So
I'm
just
trying
to
think
of
how
do
we
get
that
and
in
terms
of
the
amount
of
land
available?
O
Aren't
there
current
development
standards
that
we
can
look
to
to
estimate
based
on
our
experience,
you
know
how
much
land
is
a
typical
generator
need
in
order
to
generate
you
know,
100
megawatts
or
whatever
the
the
normal
unit
of
measure
is
in
order
to
get
there
it.
It
isn't
this
something
that,
since
we've
got
experts
working
on
this,
that
they
can
give
us
an
idea
of
how
much
land
would
be
necessary
for
us,
because
we're
trying
to
meet
a
renewable
energy
requirement?
H
H
There
may
not
be
a
sort
of
set
pattern
of
what
that
amount
of
land
might
be
due
to
technology,
advancements
and
different
situations
within
the
land
itself.
H
I
think
that
the
point
about
land
development
standards
would
be
something
that
I
would
have
to
defer
to
either
again
renewable
energy
developers,
our
local
governments,
their
zoning
requirements
and
the
federal
government
in
terms
of
its
environmental
compliance.
It's
a
complicated
question.
I
understand
the
point
and
I
thank
you
for
the
question,
but
I
don't
know
that
there's
one
set
source
where
you
can
go
to
for
that
information,
as
opposed
to.
M
O
Yeah,
I'm
sorry,
I
didn't
mean
to
cut
you
off.
I
I
appreciate
that
and-
and
it
probably
is
spread
out
over
multiple
sources.
I
just
think
that
you
know
raising.
This
is
an
issue
and
I
thought
vice
chair
brooks's
comment
was
was
spot
on.
We
have
no
idea
what
the
future
is
going
to
bring,
but
certainly
if
we've
made
a
if
we
set
a
target,
hopefully
that
target
was
set
with
the
idea
of
being
able
to
hit
it.
I
know
that
you
know
when
I'm
out
in
a
shooting
competition.
O
I
never
want
to
get
around
that
won't
reach
the
target.
So
there's
got
to
be
a
way
of
getting
to
this
information,
and
maybe
this
is
a
great
start
to
start
the
the
search,
but
anyway
I
appreciate
it,
and-
and
I
understand
there
may
be
some
initial
difficulties
in
getting
it,
but
it's
information,
I
think,
is
a
state
we're
going
to
have
to
have
so.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity.
A
D
D
It
gives
me
a
little
hope
that
when
we
look
at
it,
we've
been
the
voters,
told
us
in
2018
and
2020
that
they
want
this
question
six.
They
want
the
renewable
portfolio
standard
of
50
percent
of
electricity
coming
from
renewable
energy
sources,
so
we
we
have
time
to
consider.
You
know
how
to
do
it,
and,
quite
frankly,
I
never
even
considered
when
we
were
talking
about
land
use
that
my
my
airplane.
D
Pilots
are
looking
for
a
place
to
land
in
on
dry
lake,
and
now
we've
taken
up
a
huge
percentage
of
that
with
solar
panels,
and
so
all
of
those
things,
I
think,
are
play
a
factor
in
what
it
what
land
is
available
and
what
it
is.
And
you
know
our
solar
panels
now
are
more
productive
than
they
used
to
be.
So.
I
hope
that
we
continue
to
have
new
ways
of
generating
renewable
energy,
but
I
think
the
discussion
that
we've
just
heard
illustrates
very
well
that
this
is
a
transparency
bill.
D
D
Look
at
how
we
can
afford
education
and
the
other
things
that
we
can
afford.
So
I
appreciate
the
discussion
that
you
allowed
to
happen
and
I
stand
ready
to
have
you
folks
tell
me
what
the
answers
are
and
then
I'll
take
credit
for
it.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
E
You
chair
harris
just
in
in
senator
hardy's
kind
of
closing
comments.
He
brought
up
a
concept,
so
so
this
is
really
about
taxing
solar
power.
Is
that
what
is
that?
What
you
just
said
about
getting
our
recompense
fund
education
is
that
so
is
that
what
you
just
said.
D
So
this
is
not
in
this
bill,
and
nor
can
it
be,
nor
will
it
be
because
we
don't
know
what
we
have
so
we
we
send
gold
out
of
state
and
we
get
some
kind
of
mineral
tax
we
send
electricity
out
of
state.
Is
that
even
something
that
we
could
do
so?
This
is
something
that
I
don't
know
and
I
think
until
we
know
we
we're
not
even
able
to
have
those
discussions.
A
All
right
senator
hardy,
thank
you
for
joining
us
today,
I'll
go
ahead
and
close
the
hearing
on
senate
bill
197.
and
will
open
us
up
for
public
comment.