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A
Thank
you
so
much
miss
wells
and
thank
you
to
all
of
our
honored
guests
who
have
joined
us
today
to
present
two
fantastic
bills.
I
will
now
call
the
meeting
of
the
judiciary
committee
to
order
for
tuesday
march
16
2021
and
ask
the
esteemed
secretary
to
please
take
the
role.
D
C
A
Here
so
we
have
everybody
here
on
the
committee
we
also
have
with
us
our
committee,
analyst
patrick
geiman
from
lcb,
and
our
committee
council
nicholas
anthony,
is
not
present
in
the
meeting
room,
but
he
remains
available
to
us
to
answer
any
legal
questions
that
might
arise
during
the
meeting
and,
as
you
have
heard
me
say
several
times
now,
he
is
very
busy
drafting
legislation
for
us.
A
So
we
are
appreciative
of
his
service,
even
though
it
is
not
here
in
this
room
right
now
and
with
that,
I
think
we
are
ready
to
move
on
to
our
very
first
bill
hearing.
Today
we
will
be
taking
sp
177.
First,
we
have
the
honorable
senator
julia
ratty
with
us
to
present,
and
I
will
turn
it
over
to
you.
The
hearing
is
now
open
on
sb.
A
F
Let's
try
that
again.
Thank
you,
chair
scheible.
I
appreciate
the
very
much
the
opportunity
to
present
in
senate
judiciary
today
a
bill
that
I
think
has
incredible
importance.
I
just
have
to
make
my
standing
joke
that
I
definitely
try
to
stay
out
of
the
committee
on
judiciary
without
evil
counsel,
but
I'm
going
to
try
to
do
it
by
myself
today.
So
just
hoping
y'all
will
be
a
little
bit
kind
and
I
brought
an
army
of
folks
to
help
answer
me.
Questions
answer
some
questions.
So
again,
my
name
is
julia
ready.
F
I
represent
senate
district
13,
which
is
sort
of
the
middle
of
reno
and
sparks,
and
I'm
here
today
to
present
sb
177,
which
is
a
bill
to
help
us
develop
more
resources
to
address
the
dual
challenges
that
our
state
faces
due
to
domestic
violence
and
to
sexual
violence.
I
wanted
to
start
our
presentation
by
introducing
to
you
former
lieutenant
governor
sue
wagner.
F
This
is
the
40th
anniversary
of
a
bill
that
lieutenant
lieutenant
wagner
championed
when
she
was
a
senator
in
the
legislature
40
years
ago
to
create
the
mechanism
that
we
use
to
provide
some
funding,
support
for
domestic
violence
and
sexual
violence
programs
today,
and
so
with
that,
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
to
lieutenant
governor
sue
wagner.
G
G
So
in
in
the
next
session
of
the
legislature,
I
introduced
the
bill
in
1981
and
caught
the
committee
to
aid
abused.
G
G
I
would
say
our
success:
we
were
able
to
get
the
bill
passed
and
actually,
at
that
time
the
money
was
going
to
be
used
for
building
shelters,
because
I
happen
to
know
a
woman
here
in
town
who
was
married
to
a
banker,
the
president
of
a
major
bank
and
when
she
heard
about
this
bill,
she
called
me.
I
did
know
her
in
a
different
way
and
she
told
me
she
was
one
of
these.
I
couldn't
believe
it
and
I
think
I've
known
for
the
last
40
years,
a
number
of
women
in
this
situation.
F
H
F
F
So
it's
been
a
huge
success.
The
way
it
works
is
that
these
funds
accrue
in
the
account
for
the
aid
of
aid
for
victims
to
domestic
violence.
Over
the
past
40
years.
Those
grants
have
fostered
the
growth
and
development
of
domestic
violence
programs
from
five
in
1981
to
14
in
2021,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
this.
Funding
source
doesn't
cover
all
of
the
need,
but
it
does
get
these
organizations
the
base
funding
that
they
need
that
they
can
leverage
against
other
funding
sources
to
be
able
to
build
out
their
services.
F
There's
no
question
that
these
survivors
continue
to
need
support
in
19.
According
to
the
2019
nevada,
uniform
crime
report,
we
are
still
experiencing
one
domestic
violence,
offense
every
17
minutes.
A
protection
ordered
issue,
protection
order
issued
every
37
minutes,
one
rape,
every
four
hours
and
eight
minutes,
and
two
thousand
and
one
hundred
and
sixteen
k
rape
cases
just
27.6
of
those
have
cleared
meaning
the
offender
was
taken
into
custody.
That's
the
lowest
clearance
clearance
rate
of
any
felony
reported,
so
the
need
is
great.
F
F
The
numbers
are
astounding,
so
that's
the
need.
We
have
a
growing
need
for
domestic
violence
and
sexual
violence
services
and
when
the
bill
was
originally
established
again
to
the
history
of
the
bill,
there
was
only
one
sexual
violence
organization
in
the
state
and
that
organization
was
in
clark
county.
So
there
was
a
carve
out
created
and
as
the
bill
still
stands,
40
years
later,
the
only
revenue
going
to
sexual
violence
is
going
to
clark
county.
F
That
means
16
out
of
17
counties
are
not
getting
any
base
resource
from
the
state
for
sexual
violence
services,
services
for
survivors
of
sexual
violence.
So
I
know
a
lot
of
you
have
already
looked
at
this
bill
and
you
know
the
dollar
amount
increase
that
we're
asking
for.
But
that's
a
big
reason
is
why
we
have
left
out
six
16
out
of
17
counties
when
it
comes
to
particular
part
of
this
program
on
the
resource
side.
F
So
again,
just
talking
about
the
growth
of
domestic
violence
in
nevada,
you
can
see
that
it's
been
significant
between
2012
and
2019.
It
rose
by
21
and
I
apologize
for
the
missing
dot
there.
There
was
one
year
where
the
data
wasn't
wasn't
completely
collected
and
so
therefore
couldn't
be
reported
and
again
those
are
just
the
reported
cases.
We
know
when
it
comes
to
domestic
violence
and
sexual
violence
that
there's
significant
under
reporting.
So
just
as
an
example
of
that,
the
purple
line
is
the
reported
number
of
cases
of
domestic
violence
in
our
state.
F
F
So
sometimes
it's
hard
to
quantify
need.
This
is
the
best
information
that
the
domestic
violence
programs
have
for
what
the
need
is
and
then
what
the
unmet
need
is
so
every
year
they
do
a
count,
and
so
the
last
count
was
on
september,
10th
of
2020
and
14
of
the
programs
in
nevada
reported
as
part
of
this
national
one-day
count
that
happens
across
the
nation.
F
In
2018
we
were
unable
to
meet
50
percent
of
the
shelter
requests
in
2019
it
was
37
and
by
2020
it
was
22,
so
we're
making
some
progress,
but
still
that's
one-fifth
of
survivors
who
show
up
and
are
not
be
able
to
be
accommodated,
and
when
we
can't
accommodate
them,
then
these
programs
get
creative
and
they
look
for
things
like
hotels
or
emergency
shelters
which
actually
cost
more
money.
So
the
more
that
we
can
do
to
build
that
base
infrastructure,
the
more
cost
efficient.
F
We
can
be
the
more
survivors
we
can
serve
and
what
we
know
is
if
we
can
deal
with
the
crisis,
get
somebody
stable,
then
we
have
a
much
higher
likelihood
of
moving
that
survivor
into
a
path
of
breaking
the
cycle,
but
if
we
can't
get
them
stabilized,
it's
very
difficult
to
do
the
same
time,
there
has
been
an
astounding
growth
in
sexual
violence
between
2010
and
2019.
We're
talking
about
a
93
percent
increase,
93
percent.
F
F
Meanwhile,
on
the
resource
side,
the
blue
bars
here
are
the
marriage
licenses
sold.
So
you
can
see
from
2010
to
2015.
They
were
slowly
declining
in
2016-2017,
I'm
sure
some
of
you
will
be
able
to
figure
out
pretty
quickly
why
we
had
a
bump.
We
had
some
changes
in
our
laws
and
a
whole
group
of
lgbtq
folks
were
able
to
get
married
now,
and
so
there
was
probably
some
pent
up
demand.
F
Pent-Up
demand
has
worked
its
way
through
we're
starting
to
see
that
plateauing
again,
you
may
be
wondering
about
2020,
specifically
with
the
pandemic
and
the
shutdowns,
and
what
has
happened
with
marriage
licenses,
and
you
can
see
from
this
graph
there's
a
significant
drop-off
in
april
when
the
economy
was
closed
and
we
had
stay-at-home
orders
in
place,
but
you
can
see
that
it
has
rebounded
significantly
and
it's
a
little
bit
difficult
to
see
because
it's
kind
of
crazy
how
consistent
it
is,
but
there's
a
pink
line
here
between
january
and
february.
F
F
So
sp
177
is
our
response
to
that.
It's
the
40th
anniversary,
we're
building
off
of
the
good
work
that
was
done
by
people
like
lieutenant
governor
sue
wagner,
family
woman,
jan
evans,
to
try
to
make
the
case
again
that
we
need
a
significant
increase.
We
don't
need
just
a
modest
increase
to
be
able
to
make
up
for
inflation.
We
don't
need
just
a
a
little
bump
that
might
be
able
to
help
with
some
unmet
need.
F
So
if
we
were
to
increase
the
the
the
surcharge
surcharge
by,
I
can
say
this
if
we
were
able
to
increase
the
surcharge
by
25,
which
is
doubling
it,
but
doubling
the
amount
that
goes
to
domestic
violence,
not
the
overall
fee,
but
just
the
portion
that
goes
to
domestic
violence
and
sexual
violence.
We
would
take
the
current
amount
of
money.
That's
raised
from
2.6
million
to
5.2
million
dollars
of
that
money.
75
would
continue
to
go
to
domestic
violence
services.
F
This
would
allow
for
them
to
have
an
increase
that
would
make
up
for
some
of
that
lost
purchasing
power
due
to
inflation
and
the
ability
to
start
to
make
some
impact
on
some
of
the
unmet
need
and
25
would
go
to
sexual
violence
services
across
the
state,
and
I
want
to
emphasize
here
right
now
in
our
current
state.
These
are
the
numbers
of
the
grants
for
this
year,
only
245
000
is
going
to
sexual
violence.
F
So
I
assume
that
one
of
your
questions
are
going
to
be
well.
How
much
are
folks
paying
for
a
marriage
license
now.
So
here
are
the
current
marriage
license
fees
by
county?
You
can
see
that
eleven
counties
still
have
it
at
sixty
dollars.
There's
one
county
at
sixty
five
dollars,
three
counties
and
seventy
five
dollars.
One
county
had
seventy
seven
dollars
and
one
county
at
eighty
dollars.
F
You
may
recall
that
in
the
2015
session,
sp
395
authorized
clark
county
to
add
14
to
the
marriage
license
fee
specifically
for
wedding
tourism,
so
the
fee
was
increased,
but
none
of
that
went
to
domestic
violence
or
sexual
violence
services.
I
think
the
hope
was
that
marriage
tourism
would
increase
the
number
of
folks
getting
married
and
then
there
would
be
a
subsequent
bump
in
the
amount
of
money
going
to
the
shelters
and
programs.
F
F
So,
madam
chair,
with
that,
I
prepared
to
walk
you
through
the
bill.
It's
a
relatively
simple
bill,
so
I
don't
know
if
you
need
a
detailed
if
the
committee
would
be
interested
in
a
detailed
walkthrough
of
the
bill
or-
and
I
know
we
were
waiting
for
one
presenter
to
get
into
the
zoom
room-
has
crystal
made
it
in.
F
J
Good
afternoon
everybody,
as
you
know,
or
as
it
was
said,
I'm
crystal
miner-
I'm
currently
a
licensed
social
worker
in
the
state
of
nevada.
20
years
ago
I
was
not
a
licensed
social
worker.
I
had
very
little
education
and
three
toddlers
two
on
my
hips
one
in
a
stroller
when
I
left
my
abuser.
J
The
services
that
I
received
from
advocates
and
from
the
sexual
assaults
tremendously
impacted
my
life.
It
taught
me
how
to
go
from
being
a
victim
to
being
a
survivor
to
being
a
good
mother,
and
it
taught
me
how
to
get
confidence
back
in
myself
to
pursue
my
career
as
a
social
worker
that
I
am
now
without
those
services.
J
I
I
can't
even
imagine
where
myself
or
my
my
children
would
be.
Not
only
did
they
give
me
my
confidence
back
to
be
a
good
parent,
and
I
have
confidence
in
myself
and
learned
that
I
was
worth
more
than
being
treated
less
than
dirt.
J
The
parenting
classes
helped
tremendously,
even
though
I
went
through
them
multiple
times
they
were
there,
and
I
had
that
support
from
the
agencies
to
give
me
that
confidence
to
move
forward
and
to
better
myself
and
to
break
that
cycle
myself
along
with
most
victims,
come
from
a
pattern
of
abuse
from
when
we're
children
and
up
until
the
time
that
I
had
the
courage
to
finally
leave
my
abuser
and
go
through
the
agency.
J
J
F
Thank
you
crystal.
I
very
much
appreciate
you
making
the
time
to
join
us
today.
I
know
it's
not
easy
to
share
these
stories
so
to
wrap
it
up,
because
I
wanted
to
make
in
watching
this
committee.
I
think
you'll
generally
have
questions,
so
I'm
going
to
keep
the
committee
short
they're.
The
presentation
short
there's
lots
of
other
information
that
we
could
share
with
you
very
compelling
information
about
what
happens
to
survivors
and
their
path.
F
The
data
about
the
growing
need
in
our
state
the
reasons
that
the
existing
resource
just
has
not
been
sufficient
and
will
continue
to
not
be
sufficient.
But
with
that
I
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
with
me
today.
I
have,
of
course,
lieutenant
governor
sue
wagner
who
you've
heard
from
and
crystal
minor
who's
representing
survivors.
I
also
have
sumaiski,
who
is
the
executive
director
of
the
never
get
the
name
right,
nevada
coalition
to
end
domestic
and
sexual
violence?
F
I
have
liz
ortenberger,
who
is
the
ceo
of
safe
nest,
which
is
one
of
the
providers
in
clark
county.
I
have
denise
oxheimer
who's.
The
executive
director
of
the
domestic
violence
resource
center
who's
here
representing
services
in
marshall
county
and
I
have
lisa
lee,
who
is
the
executive
director
of
the
advocates
to
end
domestic
violence,
who
is
representing
rural
communities
generally,
so
they
are
all
here
as
the
subject
matter,
experts
to
also
be
able
to
answer
questions
and
we
are
ready
and
prepared
whenever
you
are
madam
chair,
thank
you
so
much
for
the
opportunity.
F
A
Thank
you
so
much
senator
ratty,
and
I
would
also
like
to
echo
your
thanks
to
ms
miner
for
sharing
your
story
and
to
everybody
who
took
the
time
out
of
their
schedule
to
be
here
to
answer
questions
from
our
committee.
I
already
see
the
hands
going
up.
I
will
do
my
best
to
take
you
in
the
order
that
I
saw
them
and
I
believe
the
first
hand
I
saw
was
senator
hansen's.
Please
go.
K
Ahead,
thank
you
jared
the
question
I
have.
Obviously
I
don't
think
anybody's
not
going
to
support
the
program.
The
question,
in
my
mind,
is
the
funding
mechanism.
I
mean
when
this
was
started
back
in
the
80s
to
tax.
People
that
are
getting
married
may
have
seemed
appropriate,
but
as
we've
expanded
this
and
as
your
chart
suggests,
there's
a
whole
lot
of
violence
going
on
with
people
that
have
not
got
married.
Yet
people
getting
married
are
the
ones
that
are
expected
to
fund
100
of
this
program.
K
It
sounds
like
I'm
just
kind
of
wondering
why
this
shouldn't
be
turned
over
to
the
general
fund
to
be
funded
through
that
type
of
program
rather
than
singling
out
one
industry.
An
industry
I
might
have
by
your
charts
shows
a
substantial
decline,
as
our
population
is
expanded,
so
I'm
just
kind
of
wondering:
why
are
we
going
to
continue
to
single
out
the
wedding
industry
when
the
problem
obviously
goes
way
beyond
marriage.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
through
you
to
senator
hanson,
go
direct.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
So
I
appreciate
the
question.
Senator
hansen,
40
years
of
history
and
multiple
efforts
to
find
some
general
fund
or
another
funding
source
for
these
programs
have
not
been
successful.
F
K
Oh,
I
can
appreciate
that,
but
I
would
say
that
you
know
we
have
failed
majority
legislature
for
the
first
time
in
nevada
history.
I
would
surely
think
that
there
would
be
strong
support
for
some
sort
of
a
funding
mechanism
and
I
would
support
it.
I
just
my
issue
really
is
obviously
there's
a
need
there.
It's
a
great
program.
It
helps
people
that
really
need
it,
but
it
just
seems
wrong
to
me
to
single
out
an
industry
that
already
is
on
the
ropes
to
a
certain
extent
and
then
add
an
additional
fee.
K
On
top
of
that,
I
mean
honestly,
we
should
be
encouraging
people
to
get
married.
You
know
your
stats,
showing
this
constant
expansion
of
social
or
sexual
violence.
At
the
same
time,
you
see
this
on
the
marriage
curve.
There
may
be
some
relationships
there
that
we
should
perhaps
explore
as
well
anyway.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
allowing
me
these
questions.
A
Absolutely
we
will
move
next
to
senator
pickard.
L
Thank
you,
chair
and,
and
senator
hanson
just
asked
my
second
question.
So
my
first
question
is
why
the
25
increase.
Why
double
the
number
was
that
suggested,
to
be
enough
to
adequately
fund
the
program,
or
was
this
just
a
number
picked
that
you
know
we
didn't
feel
like
we
could
go
higher
than
that.
How
did
we
come
to
25
dollars.
F
Thank
you,
senator
pickard,
senator
rowdy
for
the
record.
It's
a
great
question.
No,
it
doesn't
come
anywhere
close
to
funding
the
need,
so
I
just
wanna
be
very
clear
about
that.
What
it
does
do
is
if,
as
you're
trying
to
add
the
16
counties
that
have
zero
sexual
violence
dollars
right
now
and
as
you
saw,
there's
only
254
000
of
the
entire
2.6
million.
Now
that's
going
to
sexual
violence.
F
If
you're
going
to
bring
all
16
counties
along
and
you're,
going
to
make
up
for
the
inflationary
costs
that
have
been
lost
over
the
last
11
years
and
you're
going
to
get
a
little
bump
for
everybody,
that's
how
we
end
up
at
25,
and
I
have
a
detailed
spreadsheet
that
I
can
bring
by
your
office
if
you'd
like
to
see
it,
but
without
getting
towards
that
level.
You,
if
you
want
to
add
sexual
violence,
you
have
to
cut
domestic
violence
or
you
have
to
leave
out
those
16
counties
is
the
basic
answer.
L
Sure,
and-
and
that
makes
sense
I
I
guess
I
share
the
thought
that
we
seem
to
be
targeting
a
diminishing
source
and
I
think
now
would
be
an
excellent
time
to
establish
a
permanent
funding
source
that
adequately
funds
this.
Frankly,
I
have
a
fair
amount
of
experience
with
this
kind
of
violence.
In
my
practice,
I'd
say:
probably
20
percent
of
my
cases
involve
violence
in
one
form
and
or
another
I've
regularly
supported
just
about
everything
liz
ortenberger
does,
I
think
they've
got
a
great
program.
L
I
would
like
to
see
it
triple
in
size
or
for
that
matter,
no
limitation,
but
I
would
like
to
see
us
really
take
a
good
attack
on
this
and
get
into
the
education
piece
get
into
the
the
some
of
the
the
work
that
deals
with
the
the
sources
and
the
problems,
particularly
when
it
comes
to
wrapping
the
kids
that
are
exposed
to
these
things
with
the
services
they
need.
L
So
we
don't
continually
repeat
the
cycles
and
I
just
you
know
I
I
just
hate
to
think
that
we're
we're
hurting
an
industry
that
we
should
be
supporting
because,
as
senator
hansen
suggests,
I
think
that
there
probably
is
a
correlation
between
sexual
violence
and
the
lack
of
marriage,
because
there
doesn't
seem
to
be
that
focus
on
commitment.
So,
if
there's
an
opportunity
to
amend
this
to
add
a
permanent
funding
source
and
not
this
on
the
backs
of
one
industry,
that
really
has
little
to
do
with
the
violence
problem.
L
F
F
I
am
all
in,
but
in
the
absence
of
a
recommendation
for
another
funding
source,
this
has
been
the
funding
source
that
has
been
foundational
for
these
programs
for
the
last
40
years
and
it
is
eroding
before
our
very
eyes
and
we're
to
blame,
because
the
legislature
hasn't
given
them
a
raise
in
11
years
and
they
haven't
pulled
it
pulled
in
the
other
sexual
violence
programs
since
1981
40
years
later.
So
please,
all
all
ideas
are
welcome
and
if
you
have
suggestions
for
revenue
sources
that
we
can
get
to
that
bipartisan
collaborative
vote
on,
I'm
in.
A
Thank
you
so
much.
I
would
also
encourage
any
members
of
this
committee
who
have
any
kind
of
empirical
data
to
suggest
that
marriage
is
less
likely
to
result
in
domestic
violence
so
that
the
decline
in
the
marriage
rate
is
contributing
to
an
increase
in
domestic
violence.
To
please
provide
that
information
to
the
committee,
because
I
think
that
would
be
fascinating
and
important
for
all
of
us
to
know.
If
such
a
relationship
actually
does
exist
and
with
that
we
will
move
on
to
senator
harris's
question.
I
Thank
you
cheers.
I
was
wondering
if
there's
any
data
that
suggests
raising
this
fee
would
actually
lead
to,
let's
say
a
decline
in
marriages.
F
Thank
you
senator
harris
for
the
question.
I
think
it's
a
great
question
and
I
know
that
something
that
you
and
I
share
as
a
maybe
a
hobby
is
an
interest
in
behavioral
economics.
To
a
certain
degree,
I
don't
have
a
study
that
shows
what
the
magic
number
is,
where
a
marriage
license
fee
is
going
to
be
the
determining
factor
about
whether
or
not
somebody
gets
married,
but
I
think
from
a
common
sense
standpoint.
F
If
you
do
the
research
and
show
what
an
average
marriage
costs,
what
an
average
wedding,
even
what
a
low
end
wedding
costs
today
and
you
look
at
the
fee
that
we're
talking
about
100
marriage
license
fee
is
not
the
deciding
factor
on
whether
or
not
somebody's
going
to
get
married.
There
are
many
other.
F
Even
if
we're
talking
about
the
tourism
marriage
economy,
where
we're
asking
people
they
have
to
travel
to
vegas,
the
price
of
gas
is
going
to
be
more
of
a
deciding
factor,
the
price
of
the
room
that
they
have
to
rent
when
they
get
there
is
going
to
be
more
of
a
deciding
factor.
There
are
multiple
things
clearly
when
we're
talking
about
a
wedding
where
folks
are
investing
more
the
dress,
the
flowers,
the
all
of
those
things.
F
So
I
do
not
believe
I'm
just
a
common
sense
standpoint
that
a
20
another
25
on
the
marriage
license
fee
is
going
to
be
the
decision-making
factor
from
a
behavioral
economic
standpoint,
for
anybody
about
whether
or
not
they're
going
to
get
married.
I'm
sorry,
I
don't
think
I
said
senator
reddy
for
the
record
that
time.
A
And
I
will
go
next
to
senator
settlemyre.
L
Thank
you
chair.
I
think
we
all
support
the
idea
of
trying
to
get
more
money
to
this
worthy
program.
It's
just
a
question
of
where
to
do
it.
I've
always
struggled
with
this
idea
even
10
years
ago,
when
we
had
legislation
because
it
creates
a
nexus
it.
You
know
it
makes
you
think
that
there's
a
relationship
between
marriage
and
violence-
I
just
don't
like
that
discussion.
I
don't
think
it's
proper.
L
You
know,
what's
the
body
think
about
the
idea
of
doing
fifty
dollars,
because
you
know,
maybe
we
look
at
a
different
funding
source.
You
know
what
about
divorce.
I
wouldn't
be
as
problematic
to
think
about
a
nexus
with
that.
L
You
know
what,
if
we
did
something
in
that
realm,
or
do
we
look
at
the
idea
of
potentially
a
fine
on
individuals
who
are
convicted
of
domestic
violence?
I
don't
know
I
just
was
throwing
that
out
there
for
a
little
bit
of
discussion
to
senator
raddy.
But
what
are
your
thoughts
on
some
of
those
concepts.
F
Thank
you
senator
settlemyre,
so
I
think
you
know
we've
we've
sort
of
gone
down
this
path
in
earlier
questions,
but
I
think
when
we
start
talking
about
a
fine
on
the
person
who's
committed
the
domestic
violence,
I
think
we
start
wading
into
a
territory
that
probably
there
are
far
more
people
on
this
hall
who
are.
Members
of
this
committee
are
far
more
familiar
than
I
am
where
we
start
getting
into
criminal
statutes,
restitution
other
other
victims,
structures
where
that
money
is
more
about
going
directly
to
that
victim.
F
If
there's
been
serious
harm,
and
so
I
am
the
least
qualified
criminal
justice
person
in
the
room
by
far,
but
I
suspect
that
others
on
the
committee
would
would
back
me
up
on
when
you
start
talking
about
the
perpetrator,
there's
a
whole
different
structure
and
it
does
not
re
and
it's
not
going
to
generate
regular,
sustainable
money
that
you
can
count
on
and
regular
sustainable
money
that
you
can
count
on
is
the
foundation
of
this
money.
F
There
are
other
funds
federal
funds
that
these
programs
get
like
voca
or
book
of
some
of
the
federal
funds,
but
they
all
require
a
20
match
and
that
20
percent
match
can't
come
from
federal
funds.
So
if
they
don't
have
this
base
funding
to
be
able
to
do
that,
then
they
can't
get
that
additional
funding
to
round
out
their
services.
So
this
base
funding
is
critically
important
to
the
question
of
other
funding
sources.
Again,
I'm
open-
and
I
need
some
help
from
my
colleagues
to
suggest
something
that
they
would
be
willing
to
vote,
for.
F
F
But
what
is
a
far
more
uncomfortable
conversation
is
looking
a
victim
in
the
eye
and
saying
we
don't
have
a
bed
tonight.
What
is
a
far
more
uncomfortable
conversation
is
holding
a
woman's
ham
while
she's
having
a
rape,
get
examination
and
then
not
having
adequate
services
to
provide
her
to
support
her
for
the
next
two
to
three
weeks,
while
she's
in
crisis.
F
So
I
appreciate
the
question
and
I
appreciate
I
don't
have
other
ideas,
because,
frankly,
I
have
not
come
across
another
idea
that
I
could
get
the
votes
to
get
across
the
finish
line.
I
think
you
know
I've
been
here
advocating
for
other
revenue
sources
for
all
kinds
of
things.
Since
the
day
I
walked
in
the
building,
I'm
not
shy
about
asking
for
money,
but
I
haven't
been
able
to
find
anything
else,
and
so
at
least
what
this
source
has
is
history,
predictability,
and
it
creates
that
base
that
these
programs
so
desperately
need.
L
The
center
of
stoneware
senator
reddy.
I
appreciate
that.
I
also
find
it
disturbing
that
we
have
not
made
it
a
priority
to
take
care
of
these
people
in
previous
budgets.
It
is
disturbing
in
that
respect.
I
will
gladly
talk
offline
if
you
wish
on
the
other
sources.
Maybe
we
need
to
look
at
some
of
the
numbers
that
go
with
those
sources.
If
we
did
a
25
fee
assessment
on
divorces,
what
would
that
generate?
Do
we
have
more
divorces
in
nevada
than
we
do?
L
N
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you,
senator
ratty
and
lieutenant
governor
wagner
for
bringing
the
bill
and
you
both
of
your
long
history
of
fighting
on
this
issue.
My
question
is
for
the
advocates.
N
If
anyone
cares
to
answer
with
the
pandemic
with
so
many
of
our
our
our
tourism
are
so
much
of
our
tourism
industry
shut
down
casinos
shut
down.
Are
you
finding
that
domestic
violence
anecdotally
at
least
that
you
you're
finding
incidents
have
gone
up?
I
know
other
parts
of
the
country
I've
seen
statistics
like
that.
I'm
just
wondering
if
any
of
the
advocates
have
seen
the
need
for
these
kind
of
services
go
up
since
the
pandemic
and
all
the
damage
that
has
happened
to
our
economy.
B
Hi
liz
ortenberger
for
the
record,
I'm
the
ceo
for
safe
nest.
We
serve
25
000
clients
a
year
with
domestic
violence,
so
the
pandemic
has
been
an
interesting
time
to
navigate.
B
We
saw
initially,
as
you
would
expect,
a
huge
spike
in
calls
on
the
hotline
at
about
150
percent.
Our
regular
capacity,
then
that
filtered
into
shelter,
shelter
started
to
run
at
150
to
200
percent
of
regular
capacity
and
now
we're
seeing
that
need
within
our
court
advocacy.
Counseling
programs
and
correlating
our
batterers
treatment
program
is
overrun
with
space
and
we
don't
have
enough
so
the
pandemic
has
has
absolutely
been
a
factor.
There
were
gaps
in
service
large
gaps
in
service
before
the
pandemic.
However,
so
I
don't
want
this
to
feel
like
it
correlates.
F
And
then
perhaps
we
could
have
lisa
lee
talk
about
because
that's
that's
one
end
of
the
spectrum.
That's
the
largest
provider
in
the
largest
county,
but
perhaps
lisa
lee
miss
lee
could
talk
about
what
she's
experiencing.
O
There
you
go
yeah
because
of
our
central
location.
We
end
up
sheltering
a
lot
of
people
from
surrounding
rural
counties.
There
just
isn't
services
out
there
and
last
year
our
shelter
did
51
of
the
shelter
clients
that
we
had
came
from
other
shelters
because
of
a
lack
of
funding.
Lying
county
has
lost
their
program
altogether.
O
O
So
most
programs
are
trying
to
run
shelter
and
crisis
lines
on
very,
very
little
money,
and
this
resource
here
will
definitely
help
us
and
it's
not
just
it's
not
just
the
domestic
violence.
It's
the
sexual
assault,
where
most
there's
only
a
few
of
us
in
the
state
that
are
able
to
offer
sexual
assault
assistance
and
to
be
able
to
do
that
in
every
single
county.
O
That's
imperative
that
we
are
able
to
do
that,
there's
nothing
worse
than
I
think,
being
in
a
small
county
and
having
to
drive
hours
and
hours
to
get
any
type
of
help,
and
this
would
ensure
that
there
is
something
in
every
single
county
to
be
able
to
take
a
victim
through
the
exam
into
the
police
report
and
and
into
testifying
and
as
for
covet.
We've
all
seen
it
throughout
the
state
and
people
are
terrified
of
having
to
go
into
shelter.
O
And
you
see
that
whenever
you're
admitting
them
is
that
they
would
do
anything
rather
than
have
to
take
a
chance
of
going
into
shelter
and
maybe
being
exposed
to
other
people-
and
I
know
our
court
advocates
have
worked
really
hard
to
be
able
to
keep
people
in
their
home
and
split
through
restraining
orders,
because
they
are
so
fearful
of
having
to
go
and
be
exposed
to
other
people
who
might
have
the
ability
to
infect
them.
F
And
finally,
with
your
indulgence
chair,
the
sumaiski
would
have
the
statewide
perspective.
J
Thank
you
for
the
records
zumaski
with
the
nevada
coalition
to
end
domestic
and
sexual
violence,
and-
and
I
think
in
response
to
senator
orange
shell's
question
it.
It's
been
a
roller
coaster
in
terms
of
the
number
of
folks
that
are
calling
and
coming
in
to
to
shelter.
I
think
the
thing
that
we
should
really
keep
in
mind,
as
we
think
about
this,
is
folks
were
forced
to
stay
at
home
with
their
abusers.
J
They
may
not
have
been
able
to
make
a
phone
call
to
let
anyone
know
that
they
needed
help.
They
may
not
have
been
able
to
leave
that
home
in
order
to
go
to
shelter
or
to
you
know,
to
get
any
kinds
of
services,
so
we
saw
increases
in
number
of
folks
coming
to
programs.
Last
year
we
saw
increases,
particularly
in
hotline
called,
and
we
saw
increases
across
the
board
in
shelter
bed
nights.
J
But
I
think
the
thing
that
we
are
most
concerned
about
is
how
many
people
were
unable
to
access
services
and,
what's
going
to
happen
when
we
do
open
up,
I
think
liz.
You
know
talks
about
that.
Seeing
the
hotline
calls
a
shelter
now
counseling
and
other
kinds
of
services
that
we
will
be
overwhelmed,
because
people
will
be
looking
for
a
way
out
and
we
want
to
provide
it.
But
I'm
not
sure
that
we
have
the
resources
to
respond
to
to
all
the
people
that
that
need
services.
A
All
right,
then,
we
will
move
on
to
testimony.
I
understand
that
in
this
case
we
do
have
some
people
who
are
with
us
on
the
zoom
call
who
are
here
to
answer
questions
who
would
also
like
to
give
testimony
here
in
senate
judiciary.
We
do
limit
testimony
to
two
minutes
per
person
and
I
generally
allow
bps
to
determine
the
order.
A
But
since
you
guys
are
here
in
the
zoom,
I
will
call
on
you
basically
at
random,
and
so
I
underst
I've
got
a
list
of
those
of
you
who
want
to
testify,
and
I
will
ask
mrs
portenberger
to
go
first.
You
have
two
minutes.
B
Fantastic
thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
to
the
committee
for
hearing
this
bill
today
and
thank
you
to
crystal
minor
for
sharing
her
story
whenever
a
survivor
steps
forward,
that's
a
profile
in
courage.
As
I
mentioned,
I'm
the
ceo
for
safe
nest
and
we
serve
over
25
000
victims
of
domestic
violence.
Each
year
we
work
with
victims
abusers
and
children
affected
by
the
epidemic.
B
We've
placed
exhibits
for
the
bill
in
the
proper
place
that
show
a
survivor
success
story
as
well
as
powerful
statistics
around
our
partnership
with
metro,
but
sb
177
isn't
about
our
size
or
our
successes.
Sb
177
is
about
the
victims.
We
couldn't
help
because
of
the
resource
restrictions,
it's
about
504
victims
and
children
that
were
not
admitted
to
shelter
in
2019
to
2020
20
fiscal
year
before
kovid,
because
their
violence
did
not
score
high
enough
on
the
lethality
index.
B
Most
importantly,
sb
177
is
about
ending
the
epidemic
of
domestic
violence.
76
of
children
who
grow
up
in
domestic
violence,
households
will
repeat
the
cycle
as
victim
or
as
batterer.
Sb
177
increases
the
dollars
available
for
prevention,
work
for
an
additional
25
dollars.
Senators.
You
can
be
part
of
ending
the
epidemic
of
generational
domestic
violence,
housing
victims
like
martha
and
her
three
children
and
answering
the
phone
the
first
time
a
victim
of
strangulation
calls.
Thank
you.
O
O
Hi,
as
I
said
that
last
year,
51
of
our
shelter
bed
nights
were
provided
to
victims
and
their
children
from
counties
other
than
carson
city.
The
majority
of
the
victims
were
from
rural
counties
that
had
no
place
else
to
turn.
They
did
not
want
to
leave
their
communities,
but
the
lack
of
bed
space
made
it
necessary.
O
The
increase
in
marriage
license
fee
is
needed
to
ensure
that
rural
counties
have
the
resources
necessary
to
meet
the
needs
in
our
community.
Most
rural
counties
are
not
in
a
financial
position
to
use
these
additional
funds
for
innovative
services
as
much
as
we'd
like
to.
We
are
needed
to
keep
the
shelter
doors
open
and
the
crisis
lines
operating.
O
O
Not
only
are
these
funds
needed
to
ensure
that
domestic
violence
services
are
available,
but
they're
also
for
the
first
time,
will
provide
crisis
intervention
for
sexual
assault
victims
throughout
the
state
of
nevada.
These
funds
will
ensure
that
victims
have
an
advocate
with
them
during
the
entire
process
that
they
go
through
after
an
assault.
O
Rural
counties
throughout
nevada
struggled
to
meet
the
financial
cost
of
operating
services
for
victims,
marriage
license
fees,
provide
the
foundation
for
our
funding,
and
if
we
are
to
continue
to
meet
the
needs
of
victims
in
the
state
as
we
grow,
we
need
an
increase
in
this
re
foundation
of
our
resources.
Thank
you.
A
A
Last
year,
we
provide
provided
services
to
more
than
ten
thousand
contacts
to
individuals
in
our
community
and
provide
and
received
more
than
7
000
volunteer
hours
to
help
us
provide
those
services
with
a
staff
of
nine
full-time
staff
members.
We
are
hard-pressed
to
meet
the
needs
of
all
of
those
individuals
who
seek
our
services
and
agree
with
liz
and
lisa
and
others
that
the
individuals
who
do
who
we
are
not
able
to
serve
are
those
individuals
who
we
are
have
the
greatest
concern
about.
J
J
What
the
needs
are
it's
my
great
privilege
to
work
with
programs
all
across
the
state
to
try
to
develop
programming,
to
develop
resources
to
find
funding
from
wherever
we
can,
and
I
am
excited
to
hear
that
people
are
willing
to
dig
in
and
figure
out
other
kinds
of
funding
sources
to
make
sure
that
resources
are
available
for
survivors
of
both
domestic
and
sexual
violence
all
over
the
state.
We
promise
to
be
your
partner
in
doing
that,
but
we
also
ask
for
your
support
of
sb
177.
A
M
M
P
E-R-I-C-S-P-R-A-T-L-E-Y
and
the
executive
director
of
the
nevada,
sheriffs
and
chiefs
association
here
in
support
of
senate
bill
177,
we
appreciate
senator
raddy
presenting
this
important
bill
today
and
your
regular
support
for
the
survivors
of
domestic
and
sexual
violence
across
the
entire
state
of
nevada.
We
thank
the
committee
for
considering
this
bill.
Thank
you,
chair
scheible,.
M
Q
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee.
My
name
is
warren.
Hardy
w-a-r-r-e-n
last
name
hardy
h-a-r-d-y,
I'm
a
contract
lobbyist
for
the
city
of
mesquite
nevada,
while
mesquite
city
council
has
not
had
an
opportunity
yet
to
vote
on
this
and
endorse
it.
As
a
as
a
piece
of
legislation,
I
was
asked
by
councilwoman
sandra
raymaker
to
call
and
express
her
support
for
this
legislation.
Q
M
M
K
Thank
you,
chair
scheible
members
of
the
senate
judiciary
committee.
My
name
is
john
jones.
J,
o
h,
n
j,
o
n
e
s
here
on
behalf
of
the
nevada
district
attorneys
association,
and
we
are
in
support
of
sb
177.
K
M
M
M
K
M
M
M
H
Good
afternoon,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
senate
judiciary
committee,
my
name
is
christy
oriol,
it's
k-r-I-s-t-y
o-r-I-o-l
and
I'm
the
grants
manager
for
sierra
community
health.
We
are
in
full
support
of
sb
177.
We
have
submitted
written
testimony,
but
I
wanted
to
highlight
just
a
few
points.
Today.
Our
organization
is
the
result
of
a
july
1,
2019,
consolidation
of
some
organizations.
You
may
be
familiar
with
tahoe,
safe
alliance
project
mana,
the
north
tahoe
family
resource
center
and
the
family
resource
center
of
truckee.
H
As
for
all
of
us,
2020
was
a
very
difficult
year
and
the
needs
for
services
at
sierra
community
health
increased
to
a
degree
that
was
previously
unfathomable.
We
experience
over
a
200
percent
increase
in
our
helpline,
calls
averaging
150
calls
per
month
and
over
a
1
000
increase
in
request
for
rental
support.
H
The
shelter
in
place
orders
have
impacted
victims
of
violence
in
a
unique
and
dangerous
way.
We're
just
now
really
beginning
to
see
the
impact
that
these
necessary
orders
had
on
victims
and
their
children
and
funding
for
shelter
and
support
services
is
more
important
than
ever.
Kova
19
already
exacerbated
an
already
challenging
housing
market
in
our
region,
even
prior
to
covet.
H
19
housing
was
very
difficult
to
attain
in
our
area
and
now
with
people
relocating
to
from
the
bay
area
and
many
other
places
to
our
area,
there's
literally
no
houses
to
purchase,
which
has
also
impacted
our
rental
prices
and
and
hence
is
impacting
our
most
vulnerable
community
members
and
forcing
many
to
move
out
of
the
area.
It's
also
caused
our
organization
to
have
to
cancel
our
two
largest
fundraiser
fundraisers,
which
lost
critical
general
fund
dollars.
Supporting
administrative
and
direct
services
work.
H
Marriage
license
funds,
provide
a
life-saving
service
to
nevada
community
members
experiencing
domestic
and
sexual
violence.
Funding
for
shelter
services
is
more
important
than
ever
as
the
demand
for
services
increase.
Additionally,
federal
funds
to
the
victims
of
crime
act
are
expected
to
decrease
in
the
coming
years.
Absent
action
by
congress
to
lift
the
cap
on
these
funds,
this
expected
decline
will
greatly
impact
service
providers
throughout
the
state
and
keeping
survivors,
sheltered
and
safe,
increased
marriage
license
funds
could
alleviate
some
of
this
and
allow
shelters
to
remain
operational.
H
M
P
Good
afternoon,
chair
and
members
of
the
senate
judiciary
committee,
this
is
john
pearl
j-o-h-n-p-I-r-o
from
the
clark
county
public
defender's
office,
we'd
like
to
thank
senator
ratty
for
bringing
this
bill
forward.
We
too
believe
that
breaking
the
cycle
and
providing
a
stable
funding
source
for
survivors
in
need
is
essential
and
that
we
haven't
done
enough
of
that
in
the
state
of
nevada
in
our
job
we
often
see
that
victims
sometimes
become
victimizers,
and
we
are
for
breaking
that
cycle
when
we
have
a
client
when
we
help
them
with
their
case.
P
It's
our
goal
to
never
see
that
client
in
county
blues
again,
but
to
see
them
on
to
a
better
path
in
their
life,
and,
I
think,
providing
a
stable
funding
source
to
get
survivors
treatment
is
essential
to
helping
to
break
that
cycle
and
we're
thankful
for
senator
ratty
for
putting
this
bill
forward.
Thank
you.
M
J
J
M-A-L-E-N-A-R-A-Y-M-O-N-D-
and
I
am
the
hr
and
compliance
manager
for
the
domestic
violence
resource
center
in
reno,
the
proposed
increase
to
the
marriage
license
fee
would
provide
critical
support
to
our
organization
and
many
others
across
the
state,
and
I
urge
you
to
support
this
bill.
Since
the
last
increase
to
the
fee
in
2009,
we
have
seen
significant
growth
and
demand
for
domestic
violence
services
in
washoe
county.
Unfortunately,
we
have
recently
seen
a
decline
in
the
amount
of
marriage
license.
Funding
available
and
severe
cuts
this
year
due
to
covet
19.
J
marriage
license
funding,
allows
the
domestic
violence
resource
center
to
fulfill
our
mission
to
rebuild
safe
and
hopeful
futures
for
victims
of
family
violence.
An
increase
to
this
funding
would
sustain
the
essential
services
we
provide,
such
as
emergency
shelter,
free
bilingual
counseling,
a
24-hour
hotline
transitional
housing,
temporary
protection
order,
assistance
and
financial
literacy.
Coaching.
J
This
funding
is
crucial
not
only
for
its
support
of
our
services,
but
because
it
serves
as
a
match
mandated
by
many
of
our
federal
grants.
Additionally,
the
domestic
violence
resource
center
depends
on
the
flexibility
of
the
marriage
license
funding.
Unlike
federal
dollars.
We
can
use
these
precious
funds
to
support
the
administrative
and
operational
expenses
that
keep
our
lights
on
and
our
doors
open
on
a
daily
basis.
J
M
J
J
We
have
also
seen
increases
in
victims
who
are
sexual
violence
victims.
This
money
would
definitely
help
us.
I
know
I
listened
in
on
the
hearing
and
in
the
rurals,
when
I
tell
people
that
when
they
go
and
get
a
marriage
license
and
they
pay
a
fee,
they
are
usually
pleasantly
surprised
that
the
money
goes
towards.
A
service
goes
towards
helping
victims
of
violent
crimes
of
domestic
violence,
and
they
actually
have
expressed
to
me
that
they
like
that
it
is
a
fee
and
not
from
tax
dollars.
As
far
as
in
rural
county.
M
M
J
J
G
G
M
J
Good
afternoon,
tara,
scheibel
and
members
of
the
senate
judiciary,
this
is
kendra
burchie,
k-e-n-d-r-a
v-e-r-t-s-c-h-y,
with
washoe
county
public
defenders
office.
We
want
to
thank
senator
ratty
for
bringing
forward
this
bill.
We've
discussed
it
several
legislation,
legislative
sessions,
now
the
need
to
enhance
and
increase
victim
services,
as
mr
pirro
indicated.
Unfortunately,
it
is
all
too
common
for
our
clients
to
have
suffered
at
the
hands
of
an
abuser
themselves
before
then
becoming
involved
in
the
criminal
justice
system.
As
one
of
our
clients.
J
M
C
Good
afternoon,
thank
you,
members
of
the
judiciary
committee
for
allowing
me
to
speak.
My
name
is
dr
marie
wakefield,
marie
m-a-r-I-e
wakefield
w
a
k,
e
f,
I
e
l
d.
I
speak
in
favor
of
sc
177.
I
want
to
come
from
a
little
different
perspective.
I'm
a
member
of
the
las
vegas
alumni
chapter
of
delta,
sigma
theta
sorority,
incorporated
I'm
the
chair
of
a
domestic
violence
task
force
that
provides
a
program
called
stomp,
which
means
standing
together
opposing
misuse
of
power.
C
We
lost
a
sorority
sister
to
domestic
violence
and
because
of
this
devastating
atrocity,
it's
been
our
driving
force
for
the
pro
for
this
program,
but
over
the
last
nine
years
we've
reached
out
to
the
community
to
provide
education,
awareness
and
community
resources
for
victims
survivors
and
advocates.
We
use
the
expertise
of
our
community
to
share
information
about
the
types
of
abuse
signs
and
symptoms,
reporting,
self-care
ways
to
keep
yourself
safe
prevention
strategies
and
the
services
of
our
community
agencies.
C
The
pandemics
has
not
stopped
us
as
we
are
currently
presenting
information
through
virtual
webinars
as
a
community
service
organization,
though
we
always
keep
the
statistics
in
front
of
us
and
and
what
I've
been
seeing
is
that
currently
nevada
ranks
fifth
in
the
nation
for
domestic
violence
fatalities
and
at
one
point
we
used
to
be
number
one
in
the
nation
for
five
consecutive
years,
and
so
when
we
say
whether
we're
fourth
fifth
or
third,
whatever
it
is,
it
could
be
just
the
difference
of
ten
fatalities.
C
But
this
is
our
community
disease,
and
so
this
there
are
statistics
about
the
the
fact
that
43.8
percent
of
nevada,
women
and
32.8
percent
of
nevada
men
experience
domestic
violence
in
a
lifetime.
We
look
at
children.
Children
from
homes
with
violence
are
more
likely
to
experience
significant
psychological
problems.
Domestic
violence
in
childhood
is
directly
correlated
with
difficulties,
learning
lower
iq
scores,
deficiencies
and
visual
motor
skills
and
problems
with
attention
and
memory.
So
as
an
organization,
we
strongly
support
this.
C
M
M
E
Hi,
my
name
is
brittany,
woodworth
b-r-I-t-t-a-n-y,
w-o-o-d
w-o-r-t-h,
I'm
here
a
the
state
of
nevada.
I
am
exactly
completely
in
favor
of
domestic
violence,
reform
and
us
funding
things,
but
I
think
taking
double
dipping
out
of
the
marriage
licensing
is
completely
incorrect.
We
already
paid
25
and
if
you
look
at
the
marriage.
A
M
D
D
I
would
like
to
thank
the
bill
sponsors
senator
ratty,
canazarro
and
schaible
for
bringing
this
needed
legislation
forward.
I
would
also
like
to
extend
a
special
thank
you
to
former
lieutenant
governor
sue
wagner,
who
had
the
foresight
to
establish
an
assessment
on
the
marriage
license
fee
to
fund
domestic
violence
services
in
the
state
of
nevada
40
years
later,
sue
wagner's
vision
has
had
a
profound
impact
on
the
lives
of
thousands
of
individuals
by
attaining
the
critical
health
and
services
needed
to
assist
them
to
a
very
difficult
period
in
their
lives.
D
M
G
J
Oh
okay,
I'm
sorry,
hello,
I'm
kimberly
fergus
and
I
would
just
like
to
say
hello
to
the
committee
and
everybody
listening
kimberly,
k-I-n-b-e-r-l-y
fergus
f-e-r-g-u-s,
I'm
for
this
bill.
It
is
a
no-brainer.
I
mean.
J
J
M
D
Good
afternoon,
chair
schedule
vice
chair
canazaro
and
members
of
the
senate
judiciary
committee,
my
name
is
corey
solforino,
it's
c-o-r-e-y.
Last
of
s's
and
sam
o-l
episode,
frank
e-r-I-n-o
and
I
represent
the
washoe
county
sheriff's
office.
I
wanted
to
take
this
opportunity
to
thank
senator
ratty
and
the
other
bill's
sponsors
and
stakeholders
for
their
tireless
efforts
and
carefully
crafting
this
legislation.
We
encourage
your
support
of
sb
177..
M
M
M
R
Good
afternoon,
chair
and
members
of
the
senate
judiciary
committee,
this
is
lynn,
marie
goya
l,
y
n,
n
m
r.
I
I
am
the
clark
county
clerk
in
clark,
county
nevada.
R
I
have
submitted
written
testimony
and
I
would
like
to
expand
on
that
for
this
hearing.
So
in
clark
county,
we
oversee
the
marriage,
clerks
oversee
the
marriage,
license
bureau
in
2019
of
the
three
million
dollars
raised
by
the
state
to
fund
domestic
violence
prevention
programs,
2.6
million
came
from
clark
county
from
our
marriage
license
bureau.
The
remaining
balance
came
from
the
other
16
counties,
primarily
from
washout
county,
so
two
counties
are
the
ones
that
are
funding.
R
In
fact,
many
couples
who
come
to
nevada
do
count
their
pennies
we've
had
couples
come
to
the
counter
paying
in
quarters
and
nickels.
The
cost
for
a
license
is
often
if,
with
this
new
cost
for
a
license,
it
might
exceed
the
cost
that
they
pay
for
their
ceremonies.
R
In
addition,
it
provides
significant
revenue
or
resort
properties,
wedding
couples
and
their
guests
represented
products,
approximately
1.7
million
visitors
each
year
on
average,
each
wedding
generates
approximately
27
000
of
economic
activity
throughout
the
community.
Every
wedding
we
lose
hurts
all
those
individuals
who
rely
on
this
industry
to
put
food
on
their
tables.
R
We
have
been
working
diligently
to
reverse
the
20-year
decline
in
wedding
tourism
and
increasing
the
fee
at
this
time
would
certainly
suppress
demand
and
kill
the
golden
goose
that
so
many
lives
depend
upon.
According
to
jeremy,
aguero
of
applied
analysis
quote,
the
critical
element
for
sb
177
is
what
share
of
the
1.7
million
visitors
would
no
longer
come
to
clark
county
because
of
the
increased
fee.
Obviously,
it
would
not
be
all
of
them,
however,
will
almost
certainly
be
some
of
them.
R
We
would
like
to
work
closely
with
your
committee
to
find
an
alternative
source
of
income
as
weddings
decline.
Domestic
violence
prevention
fees
will
also
decline,
so
we
would
like
to
find
an
alternative
source
to
make
sure
that
this
critical
funding
for
domestic
violence
prevention
programs
remains
stable.
R
This
may
be
the
stake
in
the
heart
of
the
wedding
industry
and
threatens
the
stability
of
your
funding
over
the
long
term.
I-
and
I
know
the
winning
industry
would
support
this
bill
with
an
amendment
on
where
the
funding
comes
from.
Now
is
the
time
to
seek
a
secondary
source
for
funding
it
could
include.
M
As
a
reminder,
we
are
currently
on
opposition
testimony
on
senate
bill
177.
If
you'd
like
to
provide
opposition
testimony,
please
press
star,
9
now
to
take
your
place
in
the
queue
and
call
her
with
the
last
three
digits
one:
five:
zero!
Please
slowly
state
and
spell
your
name
for
the
record.
You
will
have
two
minutes
to
speak
and
may
begin.
G
Good
afternoon,
chairman
scheibel
and
all
members
of
the
senate
judiciary
committee,
my
name
is
maria.
J
G
It's
m-a-r-I-a
last
name
r-o-m-a-n-o,
I'm
here
today.
I
wear
two
hats
I
am
founder
of
a
small
business
in
las
vegas
is
called
true
love
not,
and
I
also
represent
the
government
affairs
committee
for
the
las
vegas
wedding
chamber
of
commerce
here
in
las
vegas,
and
we
respectfully
want
to
submit
our
opposition
to
you
on
sb
177
before
your
committee
with
regards
to
an
increase
in
the
marriage
license
fees
for
the
records
we
want
to
state.
G
G
G
The
industry
has
been
on
a
steady
decline,
as
you
heard
for
over
20
years,
and
we
experienced
a
23
percent
decrease
last
year.
Of
course,
due
to
covid
and
since
weddings
are
not
the
only
existing
source
of
state
funding
for
domestic
violence
prevention
programs
that
continue
to
climb
into
weddings
will
result
in
a
continued
decline
in
domestic
violence
prevention
funds.
G
Diversifying
funding
sources
would
stabilize
funding
for
these
critical
services.
This
significant
price
increase
in
wedding
licenses
will
inevitably
garner
national
and
potential
international
press.
You
know
we
are
still
known
as
the
wedding
capital
of
the
world
and
the
wedding
chamber
of
commerce
has
been
working
diligently
with
clark
county
to
reverse
the
trend
of
the
decline
in
business,
and
we
do
see
a
potential
turnaround
in
2021,
but
this
price
increase
might
further
delay
the
recovery.
G
Preserving
and
rebuilding
our
industry
is
the
best
way
to
ensure
that
wedding
licenses
continue
to
be
a
significant
source
of
revenue
for
domestic
violence
prevention
programs,
but
if
we
can
double
our
weddings,
we'll
double
the
funding
for
domestic
violence
prevention,
while
providing
incomes
to
thousands
of
constituents
who
depend
upon
the
weddings
for
a
living
and
as
we
all
know,
the
wedding
industry
has
been
devastated
by
this
economic
impact
of
covet.
19.
many
businesses
and
chapels
have
closed
because
of
this.
You
know
the
government,
the
governor,
had
us
closed
for
well
over
three
months
and
okay.
G
M
M
M
K
K
I
do
believe
there's
other
sources
that
we
could
tap
into
my
understanding.
One
of
the
biggest
problems
with
domestic
violence
is
unemployment,
where
they're
stuck
in
the
house
with
people
but
also
substance
abuse.
K
If
we
proposed
and
submitted
a
half
a
penny
per
ounce
alcohol
tax,
just
in
nevada
alone,
it
would
generate
51
million
dollars
a
year
to
go
towards
this
cost
resorts
constantly
charge
20
for
a
drink,
so
I
think
six
cents
more
for
a
beer
is
well
worth
fighting
for
to
help
these
people,
the
sb
177
only
from
what
I've
heard
only
guarantees
another
40
years
of
underserving
the
people
who
truly
need
it.
Five
million
dollars
is
not
enough
to
solve
this
problem.
We
need
to
solve
and
help
everyone,
not
just
some
people.
K
The
other
thing
I'd
like
to
point
out
is
that
over
two-thirds
of
these
marriages
that
happen
or
from
people
don't
live
in
nevada.
So
when
they
come
in
to
get
married
here,
they
really
look
at
the
overall
cost,
not
only
for
themselves
to
come
here
and
get
married,
the
transportation
fuel
everything,
and
so
it's
something
that
needs
to
be
taken
into
consideration.
M
D
My
name
is
cliff
everett
c-l-I-f-f-e-d-a-r-t-s,
I'm
the
founder,
ceo
of
vegas
weddings.
I
agree
with
the
comments
of
senator
hansen
and
senator
pickards
pickard,
while
we
don't
have
any
disagreement
with
the
obvious
needs
of
to
combat
domestic
abuse,
and
I
have
submitted
my
comments
on
the
record.
What
we
don't
understand
is
why
this
very
small
wedding
industry
has
been
burdened
with
the
sole
responsibility
to
support
100
of
the
dedicated
funds
for
this
critical
issue.
D
Certainly,
under
a
worst
case
scenario,
there
is
no
cause
and
effect
from
getting
married
and
domestic
abuse
would
seem
that
a
small
tax
on
alcohol
sales
would
be
far
more
appropriate
and
would
raise
far
more
funds
for
domestic
abuse.
The
wedding
industry
is
barely
surviving
and
some
believe
that
in
10
years
it
will
not
be
a
wedding
industry.
What
we
don't
need
is
a
nationwide
publicity
that
nevada
has
the
highest
marriage,
license
fees
in
the
nation.
Thank
you.
M
E
E
My
perpetrator
is
a
registered
sexual
whatever
and
anyways.
What
I
would
like
to
say
is,
I
agree
with
everything
miss
goya
said
and
what
your
just
previous
speaker
was.
Mr
cliff
everything.
Everything
is
now
being
put
on
the
backs
of
the
marriage
industry.
While
we
are
trying
to
get
so
back
nowhere.
Oh
I'm
sorry,
I
didn't
put
everything
up:
brittany,
woodward
b-r-I-t-t-e-n-y-w-o-o-d
k-r-t-h.
E
I'm
in
opposition
of
this,
because
it
just
goes
against
everything
you
are
putting,
we
already
paid
25,
which
I'm
completely
in
favor
of
for
domestic
violence,
but
you
need
to
find
some
other
source
of
income.
We
are
just
now
crying
trying
to
come
up
out
of
the
trenches
or
being
shut
down
for
so
long
and
everything
like
everybody
else
that
put
one
dollar
on.
They
didn't
have
a
registration
or
on
something
else.
E
M
A
F
H
F
In
the
interest
of
time,
I'll
go
ahead
and
just
wrap
this
up
here,
just
a
couple
of
things.
First
of
all,
I'm
not
without
sympathy
for
the
folks
who
are
working
in
the
wedding
industry
and
understanding
that
we
are
in
in
the
hopefully
tail
end
of
a
pandemic
and
what
has
been
a
very
difficult
year.
F
So
I
I
did
want
to
say
that,
and
I
wanted
to
say
that
we
did
start
working
on
this
bill
long
before
march
of
last
year,
because
the
need
was
was
steep
and
because
we
were
preparing
for
this
legislative
session,
and
so
I'm
sympathetic
to
the
industry
in
terms
of
the
pandemic,
and
so
I
think
we
could
have
a
conversation
about
the
implementation
date
and
when
the
bill
would
be
effective
to
give
a
little
bit
of
space
in
between
the
tail
end
of
the
pandemic
and
the
beginning
of
this
new
fee.
F
I
also
appreciate
that
there's
no
fee
that
is
the
best
fee
and
the
truth
of
the
matter
is
in
the
state
of
nevada,
where
we
have
no
income
tax,
where
our
property
tax
has
lots
of
governors
on
it.
The
way
we
fund
lots
of
critical
services
in
the
state
of
nevada
is
through
fees
on
activity
and
all
of
the
fees
that
have
been
suggested
are
in
place
now
and
they're
funding,
something
else.
F
F
So
you
know
we
can
go
down
the
list
of
everybody
else
who
should
be
taxed
or
everybody
else
who
should
have
a
fee
and
because
of
the
reality
of
no
income
tax
and
a
property
tax
system
that
has
a
lot
of
governors
on
it.
People
have
been
creative
over
the
course
of
more
than
40
years,
and
we've
put
a
fee
just
about
everything
that
you
can
put
a
fee
on
as
it
turns
out.
I
got
information
during
the
hearing
that
we've
put
a
fee
on
divorces
and
that
fee
currently
goes
to
the
attorney
general's
office.
F
It
generates
only
about
60
to
70
thousand.
So
I
guess
the
good
news
there
is
less
people
are
getting
divorced
than
getting
married.
So
that's
a
highlight
to
end
on,
I
suppose,
but
it's
also
true
that
while
there
was
a
wonderful
time
in
our
history
where
we
did
have
a
divorce
tourism
industry,
we
do
not
anymore
and
I
believe
the
number
somewhere
around
80
percent
of
the
marriage
licenses
that
we
sell
in
the
state
of
nevada
are
sold
to
somebody
who
doesn't
live
in
our
state
because
we
do
have
a
significant
marriage,
tourism
industry.
F
So
I
will
just
end
with
saying
that
I
for
many
many
many
programs
that
we
fund
in
the
state
of
nevada.
I
wish
that
they
weren't
dependent
on
some
other
person
footing
the
bill,
but
everything
that
we
do
is
dependent
on
some
other
person
putting
the
bill,
and
this
has
been
a
tried
and
true
source
of
funding
for
domestic
violence
and
sexual
violence
for
40
years
and
in
40
years
we
have
not
found
anything
else.
F
I
am
100
open
to
finding
something
else.
If
we
can
reach
some
consensus
to
get
to
a
place
of
implementing
something
new,
but
the
challenge
is,
it
has
to
be
stable,
steady
and
it
has
to
meet
the
need.
So
I
would
urge
the
members
of
the
senate
community
on
judiciary
to
take
a
hard
look
at
this
and
to
take
a
hard
look
at
the
reality
of
the
need,
which
I
think
the
advocates,
and
particularly
crystal
minor,
did
a
fabulous
job
of
explaining
to
you.
I'm
grateful
to
them
for
being
here.
F
I
am
grateful
to
lieutenant
governor
wagner
for
spending
her
time
with
us
and
reminding
us
of
the
history,
reminding
us
that
in
40
years
we
haven't
figured
out
something
better.
I
hope
that
I
passed
one
bill
in
my
time
in
the
legislature
that
will
have
the
kind
of
legacy
that
this
bill
has
had
for
domestic
violence
survivors.
F
A
Thank
you
so
much
senator
ratty
and
everybody
who
has
been
here
to
present
today
and
ask
questions.
I
think
you
brought
forward
some
very
compelling
testimony
and
we
appreciate
your
time.
Things
are
always
a
little
bit
awkward
on
zoom.
You
may
go
now.
You
may
stay
now.
We
will
be
moving
on
now,
as
the
hearing
on
sb
177
is
officially
closed,
and
that
leads
us
to
our
hearing
on
the
other
bill
on
our
agenda
today,
sb108,
which
will
also
be
presented
by
some
very
illustrious
guests.
A
We
are
joined
by
members
of
the
nevada
youth
legislature
and
I
will
turn
it
over
to
them
to
tell
us
what
order
they're
going
to
present
him.
S
Thank
you
so
much
chair
scheible
good
afternoon
members
of
the
senate
committee
on
judiciary
for
the
record,
I'm
malik
t
hale
missko,
representing
senate
district
9..
I
currently
serve
as
the
chair
of
the
nevada
youth
legislature
with
me.
Today
is
youth
legislator,
juliana
melendez,
representing
senate
district
10..
S
I
am
appearing
before
you
primarily
to
share
some
background
information
about
how
the
nyl
selected
this
measure
as
its
one
statutory
provided
bill.
Youth
legislator
melendez,
will
walk
you
through
the
details
of
the
bill.
Before
I
explain
the
history
of
the
nylbdr,
I
would
like
to
share
my
own
personal
history
with
discrimination
and
fear
that
it
has
created
in
my
life.
S
I
was
born
in
ethiopia
and
I
came
to
america
when
I
was
two
years
old.
I
am
the
proud
child
of
two
hard-working
immigrant
parents
who
immigrated
halfway
across
the
world
to
ensure
a
better
life.
Unfortunately,
they
were
unaware
that
the
dream
of
a
better
life
america
sold
came
with
the
package
deal
of
systemic
oppression.
S
The
first
memory
I
have
of
being
exposed
to
society's
true
colors
was,
after
the
death
of
trayvon
martin.
It
was
just
two
days
after
my
ninth
birthday,
when
I
noticed
my
mom's
eyes
was
blessed.
Blood
shot,
red
and
niagara
falls
was
rolling
down
her
cheeks.
She
pointed
at
our
television
and
explained
to
me
that
an
innocent
17
year
old
african-american
was
murdered.
S
From
that
day
on,
I
began
to
see
the
worlds
for
what
it
truly
was
for.
What
it
truly
was.
My
heart
filled
with
fear.
Every
time
my
father
stepped
outside
the
house,
I
transitioned
to
fearing
the
police,
rather
than
feeling
protected
by
them
being
in
a
position
to
obtain
justice
for
anyone
who
has
lost
their
life
due
to
police
brutality
and
preventing
younger
generations
from
fearing
the
police
has
steered
me
towards
law.
For
that
reason,
I
seized
the
opportunity
to
become
a
nevada
youth
legislator.
S
Any
action
that
can
be
taken
to
reduce
implicit
bias
and
work
towards
a
more
educated
group
of
employees
where
will
overall
reduce
the
fear
and
stigma
that
is
associated
with
the
juvenile
justice
system.
The
bill
that
the
nyl
chose
is
one
that
we
are
very
confident
that
will
improve
the
quality
of
life
for
the
youth
in
nevada.
S
S
I
would
like
to
describe
how
we,
as
the
nevada
youth
legislature,
chose
senate
bill
108
for
introduction.
On
september,
2nd
2020.
All
18
youth
legislators
participated
in
a
comprehensive
midterm
training
on
bdr
development.
We
learned
about
drafting
language,
fiscal
impacts,
advocacy
and
much
more
prior
to
our
next
meeting
and
training.
All
18
youth
legislators
submitted
their
individual
ideas
for
the
nyl's
one
statutory
provided
bill
during
the
october
13th
meeting
each
youth
legislator
presented
his
or
her
proposed
proposal
and
answered
questions
posed
by
their
nyl
colleagues.
S
During
that
meeting,
we
started
with
18
measures.
Then
narrowed
our
choices
down
to
seven,
then
the
top
two
bdrs
for
further
consideration
at
our
november
meeting,
one
of
those
two
bdrs
of
those
two
vdrs,
one
focused
on
mental
health,
screenings
for
school-aged
children
and
the
other
addressed
discriminatory
inequalities
in
the
juvenile
justice
system.
S
By
the
time
we
came
together
for
our
november
19th
meeting
youth
legislators
were
eager
to
learn
more
about
those
two
remaining
bdrs
during
full
legislative
hearings,
with
five
expert
witnesses
for
each
measure.
After
comprehensive
testimonies
and
careful
q.
A
with
these
witnesses,
the
nyl
selected
juvenile
justice
bdr
proposed
by
proposed
by
youth
legislator
melendez
in
january
2021.
S
S
S
Therefore,
neither
youth
legislator
melendez,
nor
I
will
be
able
to
take
the
position
on
behalf
of
the
nyl
on
any
proposed
changes.
However,
we
can
provide
committee
members
with
the
perspective
of
how
the
nyl
discussed
and
proposed
senate
bill
108.
This
includes
the
ideas
and
concerns
that
youth
legislators
shared
during
decision
making
and
language
development
of
this
bill.
In
addition
to
this
youth
legislator
melendez,
and
I
can
answer
any
questions
and
share
input
as
individual
youth
legislators.
S
T
T
I
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
appear
before
the
senate
judiciary
committee
today.
We
are
all
here
because
we
care
about
the
future
of
nevada,
whether
we
have
children,
grandchildren,
nieces
and
nephews
or
our
youth
ourselves.
We
have
a
personal
responsibility
to
protect
those
who
will
continue
our
legacy
in
order
to
fully
carry
out
this
duty
of
protection.
We
cannot
ignore
the
fact
that
minority
youth
are
amongst
the
most
vulnerable
within
our
communities
and
that
this
vulnerability
leaves
them
open
to
discrimination
based
solely
upon
the
race.
A
Melendez,
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt
you,
but
I
I'm
hearing
that
we
are
having
some
trouble
hearing
you.
If
you
could
move
a
little
bit
closer
to
your
microphone
and
make
sure
that
you
speak
up.
Please.
T
Yes,
does
this
sound
better?
I
think
so
sorry
about
that.
Okay,
the
two
major
components
of
sb
108
that
seek
to
address
these
alarming
statistics
are
the
mandatory
racial
and
cultural
competency
trainings
for
all
workers
in
the
criminal
justice
system
who
come
into
contact
with
juveniles,
as
well
as
the
requirement
for
an
affidavit
to
be
signed
by
anyone
who
files
a
court
petition
against
a
juvenile
certifying
that
the
petition
was
not
filed
due
to
any
type
of
discrimination.
T
I
completely
understand
that
the
state
budget
is
tight
at
the
moment
due
to
the
pandemic,
which
is
why
I'd
like
to
offer
some
insight
into
how
this
bill
could
be
implemented
with
as
little
cost
as
possible.
An
example
of
a
concept
comparable
to
sb-108
that
was
successfully
implemented
in
nevada
is
restorative
justice.
T
So,
during
the
last
legislative
session,
as
you
may
already
know,
community
organizations
advocated
and
provided
the
framework
for
restorative
justice
within
schools
and
therefore
insisted
in
the
implementation
of
it
by
having
organizations
provide
the
framework
and
work
with
school
social
workers.
The
restorative
justice
trainings
became
characteristically
pro
bono,
some
specific
community
organizations
that
would
help
with
funding
and
or
provide
free
trainings
needed
for
the
bill's.
Successful
implementation
are
the
naacp
and
aclu.
T
Another
suggestion
that
was
made
at
one
of
the
recent
nyl
meetings
was
to
collaborate
with
the
state
bar
of
nevada,
who
already
requires
attorneys
to
take
certain
trainings
on
a
daily
basis.
By
collaborating
with
them,
we
would
be
able
to
have
the
trainings
mandated
in
scp-108,
possibly
required
by
the
state
bar,
which
would
help
with
any
possible
costs
grants
from
the
federal
office
of
juvenile
justice
and
delinquency.
Prevention
are
also
a
possibility,
given
the
necessity
for
the
assistance
of
external
organizations
in
assisting
the
state
to
implement
the
bill,
should
it
pass.
T
Lastly,
the
state
of
nevada
spends
2.7
times
as
much
per
prisoner
as
per
public
school
student
and
with
less
students
in
the
juvenile
justice
system.
We
can
allocate
these
funds
towards
community
needs,
such
as
education
or,
again,
any
possible
costs.
This
bill
may
occur
in
today's
political
climate.
It
is
urgent,
more
so
now
than
ever
to
address
the
inequality
faced
by
minority
youth
within
the
nevada
and
juvenile
justice
system.
T
This
first
hand
this
experience
of
racial
discrimination
against
my
peers,
as
well
as
the
recent
uproar
worldwide
concerning
racism
and
ethnic
disparities,
are
what
inspired
me
to
create
this
bill.
At
one
of
our
last
nil
meetings,
a
student
actually
shared
her
encounter
with
an
lvmpd
officer
who
accused
her
of
being
involved
with
crime.
Simply
she
was
black.
We
could
not
allow
investigators
like
these
to
keep
occurring
in
nevada
by
supporting
sv108.
T
Juvenile
incarceration
can
also
contribute
to
the
higher
rates
of
fatal
drug
overdose,
suicide
and
post-traumatic
stress
later
on
in
life.
While
I
understand
that
school
districts
and
police
departments
have
the
best
interest
of
students
in
mind,
the
recent
deaths
of
george
floyd
brianna
taylor
and
ray
shard
brook
brooks
clearly
illustrates
the
potential
dangers
of
police
interactions,
and
that
is
why
we
need
to
be
the
first
to
address
this
undercover
pandemic
of
racial
disparities
in
our
juvenile
justice
system.
T
Let's
not
wait,
10
years
to
pass
so
that
we
can
try
and
help
those
whose
incarceration
we
should
have
prevented.
Let
us
take
action
for
our
youth
today,
not
tomorrow.
Once
again,
thank
you
to
the
committee
for
this
opportunity.
I
welcome
any
and
all
questions
the
committee
may
have
for
me
or
chair
hayley
messico.
A
Thank
you
so
much
representative
sailor,
muscle
and
melendez
with
that.
We
will
move
to
questions
from
members
of
the
committee.
N
Thank
you
chair,
and
I,
I
guess
more
of
a
comment.
If
it's
okay
with
you
chair,
I
want
to
you,
know,
compliment
the
youth
legislators
on
this
excellent
work.
I
appreciate
what
you're
trying
to
accomplish
here
and
compliment
ms
ashdown
and
and
senator
weiner
senator
weiner's,
former
former
chair
of
this
judiciary
committee,
and
appreciate
your
hard
work
on
this
legislation.
So
thank
you
for
your
indulgence,
chair.
I
Thank
you,
chair,
scheible,
and
thank
you
both
for
bringing
the
bill
and
for
doing
such
a
great
job
and
being
prepared
to
present
to
us.
Today.
I
had
a
question
about,
I
guess
the
experience
amongst
your
your
peers.
So
I
believe
you
mentioned
that
you
know
one
person
in
the
youth
legislature
shared
a
story.
I
One
colleague
that
you
have
in
school.
I
had
an
experience.
Would
you
say
that
these
are
fairly
common
or
is
it
just
these
kind
of.
S
Okay,
thank
you
senator
harris
for
your
question
and
cherish
shivel.
If
I
may,
through
you
to
senator
harris
okay.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
senator
harris
for
your
question.
The
person
who
witnessed
was
actually
my
very
close
friend
and
she
experienced
her
experience
with
racism
and
just
being
discriminated
against
and
actually
at
the
time
I
was
there
with
her
and
being
that
the
experience
that
we
had
was
with
more
than
was
with
both
a
police
officer
and
a
detective.
It
was
a
part
of
many
people
from
different
positions.
S
I
do
not
believe
that
it
was.
It
is
just
a
one-off
being
that
I'm
only
18
and
I
have
already
been
discriminated
against
with
my
friends.
I
don't
believe
that
it's
so
one-off,
simply
because
it
wasn't
just
a
police
officer
or
just
a
detective.
It
was
kind
of
everybody
that
was
in
that
predicament
with
us,
and
I
do
not
believe
that
it
is
purposeful,
but
even
on
accident.
I
believe
that
implicit
bias
is
something
that
most
people
cannot
avoid.
Thank
you.
A
All
right
are
there
questions
from
other
members
of
the
committee.
I
would
like
to
ask
both
of
you
whether
these
organizations,
the
district
attorney's
association
or
the
supreme
court
or
the
attorney
general's
office,
reached
out
to
you
before
the
hearing
about
their
proposed
amendments
and,
if
so,
whether
you're,
still
in
conversation
with
them.
I
understand
that
the
amendments
would
have
to
go
to
a
vote
of
the
entire
youth
legislature
and
you
can't
speak
for
everybody
in
the
legislature.
T
T
They
are
not
something
that
again,
we
haven't
been
able
to
discuss
with
the
entire
body
of
the
nevada
youth
legislature.
I
do
consider
them
to
friendly
amendments.
We've
never
discussed
referencing
military
amendments
that
suggest
striking
out
completely
section
into
the
which
discusses
the
affidavit
that
we
have
not
discussed
whatsoever
because
those
amendments
are
quite
new
to
us,
but
the
other
language
that
has
been
proposed,
such
as
instead
of
criminalistic
system.
It
would
be
those
who
work
specifically
in
the
juvenile
justice
system.
T
That
is
something
that
we
originally
intended
to
have
within
the
bible
be
discussed
without
a
youth
legislature.
We
did
want
the
bill
to
focus
specifically
on
the
juvenile
justice
system,
so
some
of
those
amendments
have
been
discussed,
but
the
one
about
striking
out
section
two
has
not
been
discussed.
T
I
personally,
on
my
own
time,
have
looked
through
the
fiscal
notes
that
they
submitted,
but
adding
a
body
the
nevada
youth
legislature
has
not
discussed,
reviewed
or
spoken
to
any
anybody
that
has
submitted
a
fiscal
note.
M
M
D
Hello,
my
name
is
nick
chipek
and
I
c-k-s-h-e-p-a-c-k
policy
and
program
associate
with
the
aclu
of
nevada.
We
want
to
thank
the
youth
legislators
for
bringing
forth
this
amazing
bill
and
for
including
us
in
some
of
the
preliminary
talks
earlier
before
this
session.
We
are
here
in
support
of
sb
108
as
introduced,
while
section
2
may
need
some
work.
We
must
we
must
start
building
in
accountability
measures
into
our
reform
legislation,
regardless
of
any
conscious
desire
to
be
fair
or
assertion
of
the
absence
of
racist
intent.
Unconscious
bias
is
present.
D
It
is
our
responsibility,
and
particularly
that
of
white
people,
to
acknowledge
our
racist
past
and
present
and
work
to
address
our
own
biases
in
order
to
move
towards
a
truly
anti-racist
future.
A
study
published
in
july
found
that
in
the
last
three
years,
black
students
accounted
for
more
than
33
percent
of
police
referrals
in
clark,
county,
meaning,
arrests
or
citations,
while
representing
about
14
percent
of
the
student
body.
D
According
to
the
most
recent
governor's
annual
report
on
juvenile
justice,
which
was
prepared
in
january
2019,
36
percent
of
youth
held
in
confinement
were
black
and
only
24
percent
were
right.
These
numbers
vary
significantly
from
the
total
population
of
our
state,
in
which
38
percent
of
the
youth
are
white
and
only
10
percent
are
black.
The
over
criminalization
of
black
youth
damages
our
communities
and
jeopardizes
the
success
of
our
children.
D
M
M
J
J
J
It
is
well
documented
that
systemic
racism
is
prevalent
throughout
the
criminal
justice
system,
the
over-policing
and
mass
incarceration
of
communities
of
color.
According
to
the
vera
institute
of
justice,
black
people
are
incarcerated
in
state
prisons,
at
a
rate
of
5.1
times
greater
than
that
of
white
people.
J
M
P
Good
afternoon,
chair
and
members
of
the
senate
judiciary
committee,
my
name
is
john
pirro
j-o-h-n-p-I-r-o
and
I'm
testifying
on
behalf
of
the
clark
county
public
defender's
office
and
the
washoe
county
public
defender's
office.
I'd
like
to
thank
the
nevada
youth
legislature
for
bringing
forward
this
important
bill.
Rooting
out
implicit
bias
in
our
criminal
justice
system
is
one
of
the
great
tasks
of
our
lifetime
and
I'm
very
proud
that
the
children
are
leading
the
way
on
this.
P
The
thing
about
implicit
bias
is
that
it
creeps
up
on
you
and
it
needs
to
be
examined
in
each
one
of
us,
and
it
is
high
time
that
we
reckon
with
this.
Even
if
we
think
we
don't
have
a
bias,
it's
something
that
we
need
to
look
at
closely
and
examine
regularly
to
make
sure
that
we
are
making
decisions
for
the
right
reason.
P
This
goes
through
the
whole
criminal
justice
system,
from
arrest
to
prosecution,
to
defense,
to
the
judges,
and
I
thank
the
nevada
youth
legislature
for
putting
this
bill
in
front
of
you.
The
committee
and
I
ask
that
you
please
pass
this
bill
so
that
we
can
start
moving
forward
in
a
more
thoughtful
way.
Thank
you.
N
M
M
D
Good
afternoon
chair
or
vice
chair
and
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
john
mccormick,
j-o-h-n
last
name
m-c-c-o-r-m-I-c-k
and
I'm
the
assistant
court
administrator
of
the
supreme
court.
Today
I
have
the
unenviable
task
of
calling
in
opposed
due
to
the
rules
in
place
and,
as
you
know,
we
have
proposed
an
amendment
that
is
available
on
nellis.
D
Our
concerns
with
the
bill
primarily
revolve
around
separation
of
powers
concerns
in
terms
of
subjecting
the
judicial
branch
to
regulations
to
be
promulgated
by
the
executive
branch,
and
we
also
have
a
small
concern
with
primarily
subsection
two
in
in
section
two,
but
we
are
committed
to
working
with
the
sponsors
and
advocates
for
this
bill
in
any
way
we
can
to
help
them
move
it
forward.
Thank
you.
N
Thank
you,
mr
mccormick,
and
I
appreciate
you
and
the
judiciary's
willingness
to
work
with
the
youth
legislators
at
ms
ashton
and
senator
weiner
and
hopefully
there's
some
common
ground
that
can
be
found
a
broadcasting.
Is
there
anyone
else
who
wishes
to
speak
in
opposition
to
the
measure.
M
J
J-A-M-I-E-R-O-D-R-I-G-U-E-Z
representing
washoe
county-
I
very
much
so
I'm
sorry
to
have
to
be
here
in
opposition
to
this
bill.
We
think
policy
wise
it's
a
very
sound
and
really
good
bill,
and
something
that
we
are
very
much
so
supportive
of
I
am
here
today,
unfortunately,
in
opposition,
really
regarding
concerns
of
the
fiscal
impact
from
the
legislation
and
and
happy
to
try
to
work
with
the
sponsors.
On
that,
I
will
say
I
think
our
our
largest
concern.
J
Six
months
or
so
to
meet
the
implementation
date
of
january
1
excuse
me
of
2022
is
very
much
so
concerning
for
us
so
hoping
that
we
can
maybe
work
on
that.
I
know
there's
some
other
amendments,
as
mr
mccormick
mentioned,
and
there's
one
from
the
clark
county
d.a,
which
does
help
limit
that.
M
I
Hi
good
afternoon,
I
I
think
maybe
vice
chair
candace
or
I
can't
see
the
video,
but
this
is
bridget
duffy
b-r-I-g-I-d,
d-u-f-f-y,
chief
of
the
juvenile
division
for
the
clark
county
da's
office,
appearing
on
the
nevada
district
district
attorney's
association
this
afternoon
and
like
my
others,
in
opposition.
I
am
sorry
that
I,
by
rule
or
protocol,
I'm
appearing
in
opposition
today,
I
had
the
pleasure
of
working
and
appearing
at
the
november.
19Th
nevada
use
legislators
meeting
when
this
bill.
This
concept
of
a
bdr
was
put
forth
to
bring
to
you
today.
I
I
I
hear,
and
I
understand
the
voices
of
our
youth.
It
is
one
of
the
most
powerful
voices
that
I
hear
and
it
always
inspires
me
and
that's
why
I
co-chair
our
school
justice
partnership
in
clark
county
to
break
that
school-to-prison
pipeline
and
why
I
sit
on
the
juvenile
justice
oversight
commission's
racial
and
ethnic
disparities
committee.
I
I
have
submitted
for
consideration
and
I
did
have
a
chance
to
spend.
I
think,
over
an
hour
one
afternoon
with
youth
legislator,
melendez
and
senator
weiner,
to
discuss
some
concerns
that
the
district
attorney's
association
had,
one
being
that
I
don't
think
the
intent
of
their
bill
would
even
be
met
if
it
continued
to
say
criminal
justice
system
in
section
one.
I
Training
and
cultural
competencies
already
happening
across
our
state.
But
one
of
the
things
that
I
noticed
was
missing,
or
we
noticed
as
a
committee
was
missing,
is
there's
really
no
true.
Juvenile
training,
when
you
ask
the
chiefs
and
sheriffs
what
type
of
training
they
get
around
juveniles,
it's
around
juvenile
law
right,
so
we
teach
them
what
adjudication
is
and
we
teach
them.
I
You
know
what
juvenile
law
is,
but
we
do
not
teach
them
what
an
adverse
childhood
experience
is
or
what
an
impact
a
trauma
is
on
a
child's
decision-making
and
behaviors,
and
I
I
think
I
wanted
to
take
the
opportunity
to
help
build
something
that
was
really
meaningful
with
this
amazing
piece
of
legislation,
because
when
you
look
at
even
the
percentage
of
the
racial
and
ethnic
background
in
its
disproportionality
in
the
juvenile
justice
and
criminal
justice
system,
more
importantly
or
as
importantly,
you
have
to
look
at
the
percentage
of
our
children
with
multiple
adverse
childhood
experiences
and
levels
of
complex
trauma
that
are
coming
in
and
if
we,
as
partners
who
deal
with
children
every
day,
do
not
understand
how
that
can
impact
the
child's
decision
making
and
their
behaviors.
I
It's
not
gonna.
I
don't
think
that
it's
really
gonna
make
a
big
impact
on
the
system
until
we
do
I've
had
the
pleasure
of
training
making
sure
all
of
my
da's
are
trained
in
implicit
bias
and
adverse
childhood
experiences
through
a
great
training
put
on
by
the
clark
county
department
of
juvenile
justice
services.
As
to
section
two,
we
are
in
complete
opposition
to
signing
an
affidavit
saying
that
we
didn't
file
something
out
of
racism
or
it's
just
we.
I
think
there
are
better
ways
to
to
address
that.
I
We
in
the
state
of
nevada
are
at
least
have
specialized
juvenile
prosecutors.
Other
states
use
it
as
a
training
ground.
They
split
prosecutors,
even
public
defenders.
I
am
so
proud
that
the
state
of
nevada
doesn't
do
that.
I
mean
my
prosecutors
are
career
prosecutors
for
juveniles,
and
so.
N
I
I
N
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
comments
and
again
I'd
encourage
you
if
you'd
keep
open
the
lines
of
conversation
with
youth
legislators,
senator
weiner
and
with
ms
ashtown
and
hopefully
there's
some
common
ground.
Thank
you.
Miss
duffy
are
broadcasting.
Is
there
anyone
else
who
wishes
to
speak
in
opposition.
M
N
M
M
N
Thank
you
very
much
broadcasting
and,
I
believe
believe
our
vice
chair
is
back,
so
I
will
pass
for
our
chairs
back
I'll
pass
the
virtual
gavel
back
to
cherry
tribal.
A
S
Carrie
haley
halo
mescal
for
the
youth
legislative
moving
together
for
the
record.
Thank
you,
chair,
schaible
and
members
of
the
senate
judiciary
committee.
I
would
just
like
to
finish
off
by
saying
I
strongly
urge
the
senate
judiciary
committee
to
support
the
senate
bill
108,
as
it
is
an
immense
move
forward
towards
ensuring
a
brighter
future
for
the
youth
in
nevada
by
taking
steps
towards
protecting
their
rights
and
decreasing
implicit
bias
in
the
juvenile
justice
system.
S
I
would
also
like
to
add
that
I
sympathize
with
anyone
that
has
any
concerns
with
fiscal
impacts
with
this
that
this
measure
may
bring
and
youth
legislator
melendez,
and
I,
as
well
as
everyone
who
is
in
support
of
this
bill.
Our
work
are
willing
to
work
with
anyone,
especially
with
the
implication
date
to
decrease
the
fiscal
impacts,
and
I
would
just
like
to
say
that
I
do
believe
that
taking
steps
forward
towards
reducing
implicit
bias
and
ending
systemic
racism
is
very
important.
Thank
you.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
What
a
delight
is-
and
I
appreciate
this
is
senator
valerie,
wiener
retired,
chair
of
the
nevada
youth
legislature
board,
and
I
just
want
to
take
a
moment
to
thank
our
youth
legislators
for
stepping
up
as
voices
of
the
entire
program.
Also.
O
J
A
S
Thank
you,
chair
shaibo,
and
for
the
record,
it
is
chairman
to
halo,
mescal
and
the
youth
legislators,
who
are
also
participating
as
observers
online,
who
have
provided
testimonies
our
youth
legislator,
mahadow
abbeva,
who
represents
senate
district
11
youth
legislator
chindu,
who
represents
senate
district
3
youth
legislator,
devoran
from
senate
district
13
youth
legislator,
espenoza
de
los
montores,
who
represents
senate
district
14
youth
legislator,
alexander
wong,
who
represents
senate
district
8
and
district
youth
advisory
council
members,
lauren
wong
lauren
wong,
who
represents
senate
district
8..
S
Thank
you
again,
chair
shaibo
and
the
members
for
giving
us
the
opportunity
to
present
senate
bill
108
and
yeah.
Thank
you
guys
so
much,
and
I
hope
you
really
consider
this
bill.
A
Thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
present
to
us
and
answering
all
of
our
questions,
and
we
look
forward
to
working
with
you
throughout
this
process.
With
that
I
will
close
the
hearing
on
sb108
that
takes
us
to
the
last
item
on
our
agenda,
which
is
public
comment.
Mr
kyle,
could
you
please
see
if
there's
anybody
here
to
give
public
comments.
M
M
Q
Thank
you.
Madam
chairman
chairwoman,
members
of
the
committee
warren
hardy
w-a-r-r-e-n
hardy
h-a-r-d-y.
I
apologize.
I
was
I
thought
I
was
signed
in
to
speak
on
the
bill
and
I
I
assure
you,
madam
sure,
it
was
something
I
did
wrong
on
my
end,
but
I
was,
I
was
not
able
to
to
speak
under
on
the
bill.
Q
I
just
wanted
to
to
let
the
committee
know,
and
especially
my
friend
and
former
colleague,
senator
weiner,
that
that
I'm
representing
the
urban
consortium
made
up
of
las
vegas,
henderson's
reno
and
sparks
that
we
do
have
some
concerns
with
the
bill
that
have
already
been
articulated.
I
work
forward,
look
forward
to
working
with
them
on
this
issue
and
and
appreciate
the
youth
legislators
for
bringing
this
forward.
I
remember
when
senator
weiner
brought
this
this
this
whole
concept
forward
and
it's
exciting
to
see
it
progress
to
this
point.
Q
M
C
A-N-N-E-M-A-R-I-E-G-R-A-N-T
my
brother,
thomas
purdy,
was
38
years
old
when
he
was
hard
tied
by
reno
police
during
the
mental
health
crisis
for
40
plus
minutes
and
then
dumped
at
washoe
county
jail,
still
hog
tied
to
be
put
prone
well.
Hog
tied
face
down,
and
four
deputies
got
on
my
140
pound
soaking
wet
brother
and
affixiated
him
to
death.
Today,
I'd
like
to
talk
about
another
asphyxiation
death
at
the
hands
of
reno
police.
C
This
letter
was
written
by
denise
abby,
the
mother
of
micah
abby,
who
was
33
years
old
when
he
lost
his
life
to
reno
police
12,
25
2011..
He
was
in
a
group
home
for
mentally
disabled
folks.
He
got
into
a
verbal
argument
at
dinnertime,
with
a
peer
staff
called
rpd
by
the
time.
Rpd
officers,
keith
pike,
daniel
bond
scott
rasmussen
and
bradley
metropolis
arrived
michael,
was
resting,
peaceful
and
calmly
in
his
bedroom
by
himself
sitting
on
his
bed,
micah
did
attempt
to
avoid
being
handcuffed
on
christmas
day.
C
Of
course,
he
didn't
want
to
go
to
jail
for
a
verbal
argument.
The
police
tased
him
22
times
of
which
12
of
those
he
was
handcuffed
and
faced
down
with
offices
on
his
neck
and
back
they
also
hogtied
micah,
like
reno
pd,
did
to
thomas
purdy.
They
used
a
baton
on
him
as
well.
He
never
made
it
out
of
his
room
alive.
I
personally
know
mikey's
family
and
so
many
others
living
this
nightmare
when
your
loved
one
is
killed
without
consequence
by
police.
Christmas
is
a
dreaded
day
for
denise.
C
She
worked
in
a
mental
health
hospital
for
years
and
they
did
not
kill
a
single
person
at
the
mental
health
hospital
in
crisis.
Truth
be
told.
The
only
community
member
to
die
at
a
mental
facility
was
ronald
leach,
who
was
a
patient
shot
in
the
parking
lot
of
the
mental
hospital
by
reno
police?
Please
do
not
support
bills
that
further
protect
police.
Please
support
bills
that
promote
transparency
and
accountability.
My
family
and
so
many
other
families
are
hurting
and
counting
on
you
folks.
Thank
you.
M
M
M
A
Time
right,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
help.
Mr
kyle.
That
concludes
today's
meeting
of
the
senate
judiciary
committee.
We
will
be
back
tomorrow
at
1pm.
Thank
you
again
to
our
youth
legislators,
senator
weiner
ms
ashdown
and
everybody
else
who
came
to
join
us
today
and
we
will
reconvene
tomorrow.
We
are.