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A
I
will
call
this
meeting
to
order
of
the
senate
judiciary
committee
in
the
81st
legislative
session
today
is
march
17th
2021.
It
is
saint
patrick's
day
when
we
honor
st
patrick,
who
lived
in
ireland
in
the
4th
and
5th
century
and
banished
all
of
the
snakes,
and
with
that
I
would
ask
the
secretary
please
take
the
role.
C
D
A
Here,
thank
you
and
with
us
today
we
have
patrick
guyan
from
the
lcb,
while
not
a
canonized
saint.
He
has
certainly
performed
some
miracles
for
this
committee,
so
we
appreciate
his
presence
today
and
always-
and
we
are
sadly
missing,
nick
anthony
our
committee
council
because
he
is
still
busy
writing
all
the
bills
that
we
insist
on
introducing
this
year.
But
as
always,
he
remains
available
for
questions
and
we
will
touch
base
with
him
after
the
meeting.
C
Thank
you
very
much
chair
shibal
and
members
of
the
committee
happy
st
patrick's
day
to
you
all.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
here
today
for
the
record.
My
name
is
ben
kikufor.
I
represent
senate
district
16
and
I'm
very
happy
to
be
here
to
present
senate
bill
165
legislation
creating
the
nevada,
esports
commission-
and
let
me
start
by
saying
this
right
from
the
start
that
I
am
new
to
this.
Esports
is
not
my
subject
matter
expertise
and
I
have
spent
a
lot
of
time
over
the
recent
months.
C
While
I've
tried
to
I'll
craft
this
bill,
I
can't
name
them
all,
but
I'm
truly
appreciative
of
all
of
their
effort,
and
I
want
to
start
by
saying
what
I've
always
said
about
this
legislation
that
this
is
at
its
heart
and
soul,
an
economic
development
bill.
To
me
this
is
an
effort
to
bring
esports
events,
tourism
and
business
to
our
state
plain
and
simple,
and
anything
that
works
counter
to
that
goal
is
something
we
shouldn't
do.
C
Nevada
has
a
long
history
of
successfully
doing
this
working
closely
with
new
and
growing
industries
to
create
safe
space
for
them
to
operate
and
thrive.
Probably
most
recent
example
is
the
nevada
athletic
commission,
which
is
a
model
upon
which
this
bill
is
based,
and
it
played
really
a
crucial
role
in
the
growth
and
development
of
mixed
martial
arts
generally,
but
also
the
ufc
more
specifically,
and
that's
the
sort
of
vision
that
I
think
we
can
have
dynamic
of
this
bill,
as
we
think
about
it
today.
C
So
I'm
going
to
give
you
a
quick
overview
of
of
esports
and
some
of
the
numbers
to
show
why
this
is
so
significant
for
us,
and
then
I've
got
a
panel
of
experts
who
are
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
industry
as
well
as
tourism
in
las
vegas,
and
then
I'll
walk
you
through
the
bill.
With
the
proposed
amendments
that
I've
put
forward
on
analys
and
see
share
my
screen
go
there
share
and
it
looks
like
I'm
good,
so
we
can
see
that
yes,
okay,
so
esports.
C
You
know
this
commission
would
sanction
and
provide
very
light
touch.
Regulation
to
esports
competitions,
which
is
a
contest
of
multiplayer
video
games.
Viewers,
participate
and
participants
are
either
in
person
or
online
through
very
popular
online
services,
such
as
youtube
and
twitch.
It's
oh,
it's
one
of
the
fastest
growing
markets
in
sports
and
entertainment.
Both
here
domestically
and
international,
total
esports
viewership
is
expected
to
grow
at
a
9
compound
annual
growth
rate
between
2019
and
2023,
up
from
454
million
viewers
in
2019
to
646
million
a
couple
years
from
now.
C
So
there
there
are
businesses
both
large
and
small,
operating
a
competitive
sport
that
is
both
vertically
integrated
within
within
publishers,
as
well
as
a
distributed
infrastructure
where,
where
ip
is
licensed
out
and
tournament
organizers,
run
those
competitions,
video
publishers
create
these
games,
they
own
and
license
their
ip,
and
this
will
in
no
way
change
that
or
their
control.
C
C
Some
leagues
are
owned
by
publishers
under
the
vertically
integrated
structure,
we'll
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
it
later
and
they're
created
really
to
model
similar
to
the
nfl
or
the
or
major
league
baseball.
Where
teams
are
franchised
out
and
like
all
sports
fans
and
casual
players
drive
the
industry
game
communities
are
critical
to
the
success
of
esports
and
the
growth
of
the
industry.
Overall,
the
hope
is
that
this
commission
will
help
continue
to
foster
that
growth.
C
D
C
More
you
look
at
viewership
I'll,
be
quick
on
this
slide.
Esports
is
immensely
popular.
The
2020
game
sticks
of
the
nba
finals
here
in
the
united
states,
saw
a
domestic
viewership
of
5.6
million
people.
The
2015
league
of
legends
world
championship
had
36
million
viewers.
That
was
four
years
five
years
ago,
2020
game
six
of
the
world
series
had
12.6
million
viewers,
and
you
see
the
numbers
to
the
right.
I
believe
that
final
number
of
60
million
unique
viewers
has
actually
been
surpassed
at
this
point.
C
This
is
an
incredibly
popular
sport
all
over
the
world
and
both
both
online
and
in
person.
Revenue
is
significant.
Revenue.
Growth
in
the
industry
is
projected
up
to
1.6
billion
dollars
by
2024.,
and
it's
an
industry
that
employs
a
lot
of
people
between
2015
and
2019.
C
The
job
postings
in
esports
on
indeed.com
grew
by
343
and
we're
doing
something
unique.
This
is
a
new
idea.
This
would
be
the
first
of
its
kind
commission
and
the
goal
is
to
again
work
with
industry
to
do
something
new
and
help
them
in
ways
that
they
that
they
deem
necessary.
C
So
the
bill
at
its
most
basic
forum
and
I'll
walk
through
it
again
in
more
detail
at
the
end
of
the
presentation
is
it
creates
an
esports
commission
appointed
by
the
governor
of
four-year
terms
with
with
expertise
in
various
areas
and
an
executive
director
who
will
not
be
a
member
of
the
commission
but
will
work
full-time
to
ensure
that
it
thrives.
C
So
with
that
scheible
I
would
like
to
introduce
my
first
speaker,
and
that
is
someone
who
has
been
widely
known
on
the
internet
and
is
the
deadliest
man
on
the
internet.
Las
vegas
resident
jonathan
wendell
is
more
commonly
known
as
fatality.
C
He
became
a
professional
gamer
in
1999
and
went
on
to
international
stardom,
really
being
the
first
star
of
competitive
gaming.
He's
won
12
world
championships
in
five
different
games,
he's
been
featured
on
60
minutes,
mtv
orbs,
the
new
york
times
and
now
the
nevada
state
senate
judiciary.
So
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
to
john.
A
Sure
go
ahead
and
I'd
also
like
the
secretary
to
reflect
for
the
record
that
vice
chair
hanzaro
joined
us
during
senator
keator's
presentation.
Mr
wendell.
E
Thank
you
for
having
me
today,
senator
and
committee.
My
name
is
jonathan
wendell,
I'm
better
known
as
fatality
as
been
said,
yeah.
Basically,
I
travel
around
the
world
playing
video
games
and.
B
E
Of
lived
this
virtual
life
of
playing
video
games
for
last,
I've
been
in
esports
for
over
two
decades.
Now
I
started
1999
and
I
kind
of
want
to
get
some
color
on
what
it's
like
to
be
a
professional
gamer,
and
you
know
kind
of
some
of
my
stories
along
the
way.
Obviously,
in
1999
I
went
to
my
very
first
tournament.
I
had
to
make
a
handshake
deal
with
my
dad
to
even
go
to
my
very
first
professional
tournament.
E
I
ended
up
saving
up
about
500
bucks
drove
to
texas
to
compete
down
there,
and
I
won
four
thousand
dollars
that
weekend
playing
video
games,
which
I
thought
was
amazing.
Does
it
take
me
all
summer
to
make
that
back
when
I
was
18.,
but
basically
after
that
I
started
getting
invited
to
travel
around
the
world
to
play
video
games.
I
had
companies
call
me
up
asked
me
to
go
to
sweden
to
represent
usa
as
one
of
the
top
players
of
the
united
states.
E
I
went
to
sweden
and
represented
usa
there
and
won
18
games
straight
losing
zero,
and
you
know
there
was
a
lot
of
sponsors
in
the
scene.
Back
then,
at
the
very
beginning
of
esports,
and
I
would
walk
up
to
these
sponsors
and
ask
them
to
sponsor
me
and
they
were
like.
Why
would
we
sponsor
you
and
I
would
say
well
I'm
the
best
in
the
world,
and
it
was
the
guy
laughed
at
it,
and
he
liked
the
my
confidence
and
well.
They
were
also
sponsoring
a
tournament
that
summer
in
dallas
texas.
E
So
I
said
well,
wouldn't
it
be
great
if
I
was
wearing
your
brand
while
I
compete
in
the
tournament
and
we
met
in
chicago
at
the
airport
at
the
baggage
claim-
and
he
says:
okay,
we'll
sponsor
you
and
basically
that's
kind
of
how
I
started.
You
know
making
a
salary
as
a
sponsored
gamer,
but
also
winning,
I
think,
a
little
over
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
E
My
first
year,
professional
gamer
as
18
19
year
old
kid
I
went
then
went
on
to
compete
in
south
korea
and
won
the
gold
medal
there
in
seoul
traveled
to
all
over
europe.
I've
been
to
every
continent,
besides
antarctica,
to
play
video
games
and
it's
been
kind
of
a
surreal
lifestyle
to
play.
E
Video
games
for
a
living
and-
and
just
you
know,
live
this
lifestyle
so
for
over
a
decade
I
was
the
highest
earning
player
in
esports,
and
my
initiatives
today
are
to
help
grow,
esports
more
and
to
always
put
esports
in
the
best
light.
That's
what
I've
always
done
through
all
the
media
outlets
I've
been
able
to
partake
in
and
yeah.
I'm
just
really
excited
about.
You
know.
Obviously
I
moved
to
vegas.
E
C
Thank
you
very
much
jonathan.
If
and
if
I
may
cherish
I'd
like
to
now
move
over
to
sort
of
someone
who
can
represent
a
different
segment
of
this
industry
and
that's
las
vegas
president
paul
hamilton,
some
of
you
may
know
paul
he's
the
ceo
of
greenspun
corporation,
but
for
our
purposes
today
he
is
also
the
co-owner
president
and
general
manager
of
the
atlanta
reign
and
the
atlanta
phase,
which
are
franchises
for
the
overwatch
call
of
duty
leagues
that
are
run
by
the
publisher,
activision
blizzard
so
paul.
F
Here
we
go
okay,
sorry
about
that.
As
senator
kikoper
pointed
out,
I've
probably
taken
the
least
sort
of
obvious
route
to
esports.
I,
my
family,
moved
here
when
I
was
two
years
old,
so
raised
here,
going
to
school
here
and
about
15
years
ago,
launched
a
company
here
in
las
vegas
called
province.
F
It
only
takes
googling
it
and
and
you'll
see
sort
of
the
growth
and
and
something
that's
pretty
counter-intuitive
esports
at
least
to
people
that
are
my
age.
You
know
who
would
want
to
watch
somebody
play
a
video
game
that
just
seems
silly,
but
it's
really
akin
to
when
we
were
growing
up,
and
you
know
I
wanted
to
watch
jordan
play
basketball
and
still
like
watching
you
know,
basketball
and
so
esports
at
the
highest
level.
F
The
difficulty
the
difference
between
jonathan
and
and
a
regular
fan
is
the
delta
between
michael
jordan
and
myself.
Playing
basketball
and
so
esports
has
sort
of
created
this
culture.
That
goes
along
with
it.
That
has
created
an
environment
of
of
huge
fans
and
not
just
fans
but
but
a
lifestyle
in
the
way
that
you
know
our
kids
and
then
our
kids
kids
will
consume
content.
F
F
So
that
being
said,
just
from
what
you've
heard
from
me,
and
then
you
know
looking
around
at
the
owners
that
exist
in
the
league
that
I'm
in
they
include,
you
know
the
likes
of
bob
craft
and
and
stan
cronkie
and
sort
of
some
real
world.
Regular
sports
veterans
exist
across
the
space
in
in
the
activision
published
titles.
F
My
goal
in
testifying
here
today
is
that
I
think
I
believe
that
vegas
is
the
greatest
city
in
the
world
and
especially
when
you
look
at
what
we're
capable
of
in
terms
of
hosting
events
and
and
sort
of
making
sports
like
the
ufc,
the
ufc
and
esports
aren't
common
other
than
they
have
a
hardcore
fan
base
and
esports
needs
significantly
less
regulation
than
than
something
wherein
people
are
punching
each
other
in
the
face,
and
it's
super
physical.
That
being
said,
my
goal
is
to
create
an
environment
where
las
vegas
becomes
the
sort
of
esports
mecca.
F
Doesn't
need
las
vegas,
the
way
that
other
things
have
historically,
and
so
I
think
part
of
this
is
making
the
effort
to
make
to
show
the
world
and
the
esports
community
how
authentic
las
vegas
can
be
and
how
much
we
can
embrace
esports
as
a
culture
and
a
gaming
system
in
a
competitive
world,
and
I
think,
with
the
right
amount
of
work,
the
senator's
bill
is,
is
very,
very
timely.
F
We're
seeing
other
cities
extend
significant
olive
branches
to
the
esports
community,
both
in
tax
credits
and
sort
of
just
across
the
board
again,
knowing
that
this
is
sort
of
the
next
big
thing,
and
in
this
case
I
don't
know
that
this
big
thing
is
going
anywhere
other
than
up.
I
don't
expect
it
to
level
off
anytime
soon.
F
I
sort
of
expect
it
to
continue
to
evolve
into
a
lifestyle,
and
it's
just
what
many
many
of
our
kids
and
our
grandkids
want
to
consume
and
and
want
to
watch
and
if
we
could
sort
of
become
the
epicenter.
For
you
know
a
grandparent
or
a
parent
bringing
their
child
coming
here
to
go,
see,
shows
or
things
that
they
want
to
see
and
at
the
same
time,
having
something
that
that
their
children
may
want
to
see.
F
Or
even
I
mean
I'm
saying
children,
but
I
think
our
average
fan
in
in
our
game
is
about
27
years
old,
50
percent,
more
well-educated
60
percent,
more
affluent.
It's
it's
really
a
pretty
significant
sort
of
tourist
that
we
would
be
looking
to
draw
to
the
to
the
state.
So
I'm
excited-
and
I
think
the
senator
has
the
right
idea.
C
Thank
you
paul.
I
appreciate
that
and
then
josh
I
will.
Finally,
the
last
person
I'd
like
to
speak
is
a
formal
part
of
the
presentation
is
lisa
motley.
She
is,
I
don't
want
to
get
your
title
wrong.
Lisa
you
are
the
director
of
sports
and
marketing
and
special
events
for
the
las
vegas
convention
and
visitors
authority
she's.
Also
a
member
of
the
nevada
esports
alliance,
which
is
a
group
that
I
looked
to
very
early
in
this
process
for
advice
and
counsel,
and
she
was
on
one
of
those
initial
calls.
C
G
Good
afternoon
sheriff
scheibel
committee
members
for
the
record,
I
am
lisa
motley
and
I
do
hold
the
role
of
director
of
sports
marketing
and
special
events
for
the
las
vegas
convention
and
visitors
authority.
G
We
recognize
that
sports,
special
events
and
esports
are
going
to
be
a
main
focus
for
tourism
marketing
over
the
next
several
years,
and
we
look
forward
to
expanding
our
reputation
as
a
sports
capital
world,
as
well
as
an
esports
hub
or
mecca.
As
paul
mentioned
earlier.
Sports,
which
we
define
as
encompassing
esports
is
definitely
one
of
las
vegas
priorities.
It
has
been
one
segment
that
has
been
incredible
to
witness,
grow
and
develop
over
the
last
few
years.
Las
vegas
is
the
only
city
that
has
actually
evolved
to
host
people.
G
No
other
city
has
a
combination
of
150
000
hotel
rooms
and
14
million
square
feet
of
convention
space.
We've
long
been
home
to
the
top
destination
for
champion
sporting
events,
including
the
national
finals,
rodeo
baseball
winner
meetings
with
major
league
baseball,
ufc,
usa,
basketball,
the
pga
shriners
hospitals
for
children,
open.
We
host
four
ncaa
major
conference
post
season,
basketball
tournaments,
which
are
happening
right
now,
boxing
the
rock
and
roll
marathon
and
more.
G
But
we
are
witnessing
a
renaissance
in
sports
in
las
vegas,
as
we
have
introduced
five
professional
leagues
in
the
last
few
years,
the
nfl,
the
nhl
usl
wnba
and
the
ahl
las
vegas
continues
to
be
a
thriving,
fast-growing,
vibrant
city.
That
always
has
something
new.
The
lvcva,
along
with
our
resort
partners,
spur
growth
by
constantly
evolving
new
concepts,
bringing
in
unique
events
and
providing
guests
reasons
to
visit
the
destination.
G
Over
the
past
few
years,
las
vegas
has
invested
more
than
18
billion
dollars
in
capital
projects,
either
that
are
completed
or
currently
underway.
That
includes
the
1.8
billion
dollar,
65,
000
seat
allegiance
stadium,
the
msg
sphere,
a
joint
venture
between
madison
square
garden
and
las
vegas
sands,
which
will
be
an
18
000
seat
capacity.
Venue
resorts
world
which
will
open
in
june
of
this
year
a
3
500
room
asian
resort
experience
circa
about
an
800
room
hotel.
G
That
is
the
first
hotel
to
be
built
in
downtown
las
vegas
since
1980,
and
that
opened
in
october
of
this
past
year
and
then
the
las
vegas
convention
center
expansion,
which
we're
very
excited
about,
adds
1.4
million
square
feet
to
our
current
facility
and
600
000
square
feet
of
new
leasable
exhibit
space.
So
where
does
that
go?
G
We
are
also
home
to
numerous
state-of-the-art
venues
that
can
easily
cater
to
the
esports
enthusiasts,
including
the
hyperx
arena,
luxor,
the
new
caesars
forum
conference
center,
caesars
entertainment,
studios
area,
15,
blackfire,
innovations
at
unlv,
mgm,
grand
garden,
t-mobile
arena,
orleans
arena
and
more.
We
are
also
home
to
several
international
esports
professional
teams
plus
twitch
has
signed
on
as
the
live.
Their
live
streaming
video
platform.
They
will
be
the
official
streaming
partner
for
the
las
vegas
raiders
at
the
allegiance
stadium.
G
Esports
is
obviously
a
great
fit
for
las
vegas,
while
they're
hosting
a
live
competition
or
b2b
conference
recovered
in
2019,
las
vegas
welcomed
42.5
million
visitors
in
2009.
We
welcomed
36.3
million.
Therefore,
over
the
course
of
the
last
decade,
we
were
able
to
increase
visitation
by
14
or
approximately
6.2
million
visitors.
G
This
is
due
not
only
impact
to
the
fact
that
we've
expanded
the
number
of
hotel
rooms,
but
we
are
attracting
the
types
of
attractions
and
events,
including
esports
to
las
vegas.
Esports
programming
allows
the
destination
to
attract
not
only
a
newer
audience,
but
provides
an
enticing
backdrop
for
the
b2b
vertical.
G
The
lbcba
is
a
research-based
organization
and
therefore
we
are
unable
to
speculate
on
how
various
elements
could
impact
future
tourism,
but
we
are
optimistic
that
by
expanding
our
reputation
as
an
esports
destination,
both
new
and
repeat,
visitors
will
have
more
reasons
than
ever
to
visit
vegas
when
the
lbcda
prospects
event
program
for
the
destination.
The
factors
we
take
into
the
greatest
account
are
the
time
of
the
year
of
the
event,
the
number
of
out-of-town
participants
or
attendees
and
the
potential
impact
the
event
will
have
outside
of
that
main
venue.
G
For
example,
when
we
host
marquee
events,
we
not
only
look
at
the
impact
that
that
event
will
have
on
the
host
venue,
but
we
work
closely
in
secure
ancillary
events
that
include
expos
or
clinics,
youth
development
opportunities,
live
entertainment
and
other
programs
that
will
totally
make
this
a
city-wide.
True
event,
in
recent
years,
we've
also
been
involved
in
the
addition
of
esports
programming
to
existing
marquee
events
like
nascar
las
vegas,
bowl,
mountain
west
conference
basketball
tournament
and
our
shriners
pga
tournament.
G
The
hope
there
is
to
introduce
not
only
the
event
to
the
world
of
east
to
not
only
introduce
the
attendees
the
world
of
esports
but
provide
a
younger
audience
to
make
the
connection
between
live,
stick
and
ball
sports
and
what
the
future
could
hold
for
sports.
G
So
the
allure
to
a
destination
like
las
vegas
is
the
variety
of
program
that
takes
place
year
long.
The
flexibility
of
the
esports
schedule
allows
las
vegas
to
place
event
and
trade
show
driven
content
into
our
already
robust
calendar
of
events
and
driving
incremental
visitation
throughout
the
year.
G
In
closing,
the
lbcva
is
excited
for
the
future
of
las
vegas
tourism
and
generating
economic
growth
and
opportunities
through
sports
events
and
again
esports.
We
are
committed
to
esports
playing
a
role
in
our
initiatives
and
believe
the
esports
commission
will
greatly
increase
our
ability
to
deliver
on
our
mission
locally
and
globally.
That
vegas
means
business.
I
appreciate
your
time
today
and
I'm
happy
to
field
any
questions.
Should
they.
C
Thank
you
so
much
lisa.
I
appreciate
that
sure
at
this
point,
I'm
prepared
to
walk
specifically
through
the
bill.
If
that
is
what
you
would
like.
C
Thank
you
so
I'd
like
to
start
with,
frankly
the
preamble.
If
you
look
at
the
top
of
page
two,
you
know
there
are
several
whereases,
as
I
would
say
up
at
the
top,
and
this
this
is
to
focus
the
legislative
intent
of
this
bill,
particularly
as
it
relates
to
promoting
the
growth
of
esports
and
partnering,
with
this
industry
to
help
grow
tourism
to
nevada.
C
I
wanted
to
include
that
at
the
top
of
the
bill,
because
I
thought
it
was
incredibly
important
to
have
that
lens
by
which
we
focus
our
consideration,
so
it
is
truly
an
economic
development
bill
that
is
focused
on
growth
for
industry
and
state,
and
I
think
it's
a
it's
an
important
lens
as
we
continue
to
go
through
it.
Thank
you.
So
sections
two
through
seven
of
the
bill
are
the
definitions.
As
you
will
see
them,
section
eight
creates
section.
C
Eight
itself
creates
the
nevada,
esports,
commission
and,
while
originally
drafted
as
a
three-member
body,
I
believe
that,
through
all
the
conversations
I've
had
of
the
general
consensus
is
that
this
would
be
more
appropriate
to
expand
to
a
five-member
panel
that
would
bring
more
more
voices
to
the
table.
That
would
provide
the
opportunity
for
more
input
from
different
segments
of
the
industry
and
greater
diversity.
C
So
if
you
combine
expanding
this
body
to
five
members
with
the
understanding
that
it
must
follow
all
of
our
open
meeting
laws
and
ethics
rules
and
disclosures
and
recusal
rules
that
eliminating
this,
this
provision
would
serve
in
the
best
interest
of
creating
a
commission
that
can
meet
meet
the
needs
of
the
state
section.
Nine
lays
out
additional
qualifications
for
the
commissioners.
C
I
would
also
recommend
amendments
to
these
qualifications,
and
specifically,
I
think
we
should
expand
subsection
three
from
one
to
three
commissioners
who
have
experience
in
esports,
and
I
would
also
generalize
subsections,
four
and
five
so
that
I
would
retain
some
information
or
some
knowledge
of
information
technology
in
one
and
law
enforcement
of
the
other,
but
perhaps
make
it
so
that
they're
not
as
specific
to
esports.
C
Section
10
of
the
bill
they're
on
page
three
right
in
the
middle
starting
at
line
18
outlines
the
governor's
appointment
process.
It's
a
full-time,
I'm
sorry
both
to
the
commission
in
section
10
and
then
below
that
in
section
11.
It's
the
governor's
appointment
with
a
full-time
executive
director
position.
C
I
think
it's
critical
that
we
create
this
position
in-house
as
a
full-time,
a
sort
of
high-level
position
housed
within
the
department
of
business
and
industry
to
run
the
day-to-day
operations
of
the
commission
and
do
the
work.
That
is
going
to
be
necessary
to
stand
it
up.
It's
a
disposition
and
the
associated
costs
that
are
primarily
responsible
for
the
fiscal
note
that
is
attached
to
the
bill
and
that
will
have
to
be
dealt
with
in
another
community.
C
C
Moving
on
to
page
four
of
the
bill,
section
13
a
specific
authority
to
the
nevada,
esports
commission
to
sanction
events
in
esports
athletes
in
nevada,
similar
to
the
authority
created
for
the
nevada,
athletic
commission,
the
sanction,
fights
and
fighters.
This
section
was
drafted
to
require
sanctioning
for
any
event
with
a
purse
over
one
thousand
dollars.
I
think
this
is
another
space
that
we
need
to
make
an
amendment
and
to
remove
that
monetary
threshold
and
leave
such
a
decision
over
sanctioning
to
the
discretion
of
the
commission.
C
Different
types
of
events,
different
pers
sizes,
amateur
professional
collegiate,
and
I
think
that
any
effort
by
this
legislature
to
try
to
to
put
into
statute
what
the
confines
are
just
wouldn't
be
appropriate
at
this
time,
because
we
frankly
do
not
have
the
subject
matter:
expertise
in
esports
that
that
would
make
us
the
appropriate
decider
of
such
things.
So,
with
with
the
with
the
commission,
retaining
control
of
that,
I
think
they'd
be
able
to
capture
some
of
the
nuance
that
is
existing
in
the
industry.
C
C
I
should
say
as
well
that
in
section
15,
I
think
this
is
an
area
where
we'll
probably
need
to
have
some
additional
debate
over
what
the
what
these
regulations
should
include,
and
some
of
the
nuance
that
exists
in
the
industry
right
now
needs
to
be
considered
and
to
do
that,
the
commission
shouldn't
act
below
so,
along
with
the
conceptual
amendments,
I've
submitted,
I'm
proposing
that
the
commission
be
required
to
create
a
technical
advisory
committee
consisting
of
industry
experts
from
various
parts
of
the
esports
ecosystem,
including
publishers,
event,
organizers,
broadcasters,
players,
teams,
judges
and
anybody
else
the
commission
deems
appropriate.
C
These
should
be
individuals
from
inside
companies
that
are
actively
working
in
esports.
They
can
live
either
inside
or
outside
of
nevada,
as
long
as
they
have
the
technical
expertise
necessary
to
aid,
the
commission
and
its
responsibilities.
You
know
finally,
chair
scheible,
sorry
section
16,
the
host
is
sorry
section.
16
makes
it
a
misdemeanor
crime
to
violate
the
provisions
of
this
bill
or
the
regulations
promulgated
by
the
commission.
I've
heard
concerns
from
our
friends
mr
piro
and
ms
burchie
regarding
this
provision,
and
I
tend
to
agree
not
exactly.
C
Why
sure
why
we
would
want
to
make
this
a
misdemeanor
and
I'm
happy
to
make
changes
to
that,
and
then
you
know,
my
final
proposed
amendment,
chair
and
committee
is
to
extend
the
effective
date
of
this
bill.
C
Let's
give
it
a
little
bit
more
runway
to
do
its
work
and
if
you
look
in
section
17
subsection,
two
paragraph
b,
which
is
the
second
effective
date,
I
think
we
should
push
that
out
to
at
least
july
1st
of
2022,
so
that
the
the
commission
has
a
full
year
to
do
the
work
that
it
needs
to
do
to
get
set
up
and
get
up
and
running.
So
that
is
my
bill.
Along
with
my
proposed
amendments,
chair
scheible
committee,
I
stand
ready
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have.
A
Fantastic,
thank
you
so
much.
We
appreciate
all
of
you
taking
the
time
out
of
your
day
to
give
us
that
comprehensive
overview,
and
I
will
go
ahead
and
call
on
senators
to
ask
questions,
starting
with
senator
hansen.
D
Thanks,
madam
chair
amazing
presentation-
and
I
don't
think
you
left
any
stone
unturned.
I
guess
I'm
getting
really
old,
because
I
remember
when
las
vegas
was
known
for
scantily,
clad
showgirls.
I
didn't
realize
that
the
e-world
has
taken
over
here.
D
C
C
This
is,
I
don't
believe
this
bill
and
I
don't
certainly
the
intent
is
not
in
any
way
to
tread
upon
the
authority
of
either
the
gaming
control
board
or
the
nevada
state
gaming
commission,
because
they
have
the
oversight
of
gambling
in
our
state,
and
while
there
is
gambling
that
happens
on
esports,
this
bill
does
not
does
not
touch
that
the
wagers
are
currently
permitted
in
nevada
on
esports
events.
That
is
something
that
occasionally
happens,
but
this
bill
does
not
touch
that.
Nor
do
I
intend
it
to.
C
I
think
the
esports
commission
should
be
focused
on
the
competitions
themselves.
Much
like
the
nevada
state.
Athletic
commission
is
focused
on
the
competitions
in
unarmed
combat
and
then
let
gaming
control
and
the
university
gaming
commission
handle
anything
related
to.
D
B
B
A
Thank
you
so
much.
I
will
call
this
meeting
of
the
nevada
state
senate
judiciary
committee
back
to
order
on
wednesday
march
17th,
and
we
again
thank
senator
keith
keffer
for
his
presentation
on
sb
165,
as
well
as
his
three
co-presenters.
We
were
taking
questions
from
members
of
the
committee
and
it
was
mr
sorry.
It
was
senator
picker's
turn
to
ask
a
question:
go
ahead.
H
H
H
Hansen
asked
my
first
question,
which
had
to
do
with
the
gaming
and
there's
always
that
overlap
of
integrity
where
we
know
we
have
known
gaming
on
any
particular
event,
and
so,
while
I
certainly
agree
that
we
should
be
making
sure
that
the
regulations
are
and
and
the
commission
itself
is
operating
independently
as
the
athletic
commission,
I
think
that's
an
excellent
example
from
the
gaming
commission
and
the
gaming
control
board.
There
does
need
to
be
some
interaction.
H
Some
you
know
overlap
because
integrity
is
is
found
on
both
sides
of
that
equation.
With
that
in
mind,
I
was
surprised
by
the
proposed
amendment
and
your
explanation
where
we
are
allowing
ostensibly
allowing
active
market
participants
to
be
on
the
commission.
I
don't
believe,
but
maybe
there
are,
can
you
tell
me?
Are
there
similar
market
participants,
people
that
are
actively
financially
involved
in,
say
the
athletics
that
the
athletic
commission
is
doing
or
are
there
any
commissions
that
will
that
allow
active
participants
to
be
overseeing
their
own
operations?.
C
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Senator
pickard,
senator
ben
keffer,
for
the
record-
and
you
know
I'd-
have
to
look
specifically
at
the
at
each
individual
board.
But
you
know
our
our
professional
licensing
boards
are
always
thoroughly
populated
with
people
who
have
a
vested
interest
in
those
industries
right.
The
contractor's
board
is
made
up
of
contractors.
The
dental
boards
made
up
of
dentists
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
I
think,
what's
important
to
remember
about
esports
as
compared
to
maybe
gaming
is
that
we
don't
have
necessarily
in
state
the
robust.
C
C
You
know
the
best
service
to
the
state
and
the
this
is
an
industry
that
is
changing
the
changes
quickly
that
and
the
the
the
need
for
people
who
are
you
know
actively
engaged
who
will
be
able
to
stay
up
on
all
of
those
changes
is
critically
important.
So
I
recognize
it's
a
it's.
A
significant
change,
but
I
think
that
for
purposes
of
populating
the
commission
with
people
who
are
of
the
highest
level,
it's
an
important.
H
And
I
appreciate
that
and-
and
I
would
certainly
believe
that
the
active
participants
should
be
participating
in
the
technical
advisory
committee,
but,
unlike
you
know
this
environment
contractors
and
dentists,
don't
at
least
I'm
not
aware
of
any
gambling,
that's
being
done
on
their
work
other
than
the
patients
who
may
be
sitting
in
their
chair
or
the
consumer
that
they're
being
you
know
the
buildings
being
built
for
I
don't
see
the
kind
of
risk
that
that
we
would
have
where
we've
got
active
market
market
participants
policing
their
own
operations.
H
I
I
have
a
little
bit
of
trouble
with
that
just
from
the
integrity
side
of
this,
but
I
certainly
understand
the
idea
that
we
probably
don't
have
experienced
regulators
available.
That
then
raises
the
question:
are
they
available
anywhere?
Not
just
in
nevada?
Are
they
available
anywhere?
Are
they
people
we
could
recruit
to
nevada?
In
order
to
avoid
that
that
apparent
conflict.
C
Thank
you
again,
ben
keegan
for
the
record
to
senator
pickard
the
you
know
the
the
concept
of
out
of
of
seating
people
on
the
nevada,
esports
commission
who
are
not
nevadans
has
been
discussed.
C
I
think
that
I
prefer
sort
of
this
this
method,
rather
than
the
other
side
of
that
coin,
as
you
suggest
you
know,
but
I
think
that
we
can.
We
can
continue
to
have
that
conversation.
I
think
the
idea
of
the
technical
advisory
committee
is
to
sort
of
get
the
best
of
both
worlds
right
where
you
have
nevadans
who
serve
on
the
nevada,
commission
and
the
text.
The
technical
expertise
that's
available
across
the
world
would
be
then
at
our
disposal
to
populate
the
advisor.
H
And
I
I
appreciate
that,
and
I
agree
that's
all
I
have
madam
chair.
Thank
you
for
your
indulgence.
H
Thank
you
chair.
I
appreciate
that
I
was
just
curious
with
the
other
boards
that
we
have
around.
Have
we
gone
to
more
of
a
concept
where
we
allow
the
board
to
set
the
fee
entirely
or
do
most
of
the
other
boards
have
a
cap
that
we
traditionally
then
come
back
just
to
kind
of
make
sure
we
have
the
ability
to
guide
that
particular
entity
over
time
make
sure
they
don't
get
a
little
bit
too
far
over
their
skis
in
that
nature,
so
I
probably
don't
have
the
answer
readily
available?
H
C
Yeah,
thank
you
ben
key
cover
for
the
record,
senator
sotomayor.
I
think
you
know.
I
think
we
would
do
both,
but
I
again
get
back
to
the
intent
of
this
legislation,
which
is
to
attract
people
to
nevada,
and
you
know,
usually,
when
you
tax
or
fee
something
you
get
less
of
it.
So
the
idea
would
be
to
keep
this
as
as
friendly
to
recruit
people
to
the
state
than
the
opposite.
B
Thank
you,
cheers
scheible
my
question
centers
around
the
the
requirements
to
be
on
this
board.
I
know
that
you
made
a
couple
of
amendments
to
you,
know
kind
of
open
up
the
board
and
remove
the
requirement
that
you
not
be
involved
in
the
industry.
B
B
C
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Senator
harris
senator
kikefer
for
the
record,
and
I
don't
have
an
answer
for
that.
That
was
how
it
was
drafted
by
lcb,
and
I
think
you
raised
an
interesting
point
that
we
should
consider
amending
that
part
out
and
just
making
them
residents
of
the
state.
A
All
right,
I
also
have
a
couple
of
questions
and
the
first
one
is
about
the
suggested
amendment
to
increase
the
board
from
or
the
commission
from
three
members
to
five
members.
If
we're
concerned
about
being
able
to
find
people
who
don't
have
a
financial
interest
in
the
in
the
industry
and
that's
you
know
so
we're
removing
that
requirement,
but
then
we're
also
expanding
the
board.
That
was
just
seemed
contradictory
to
me.
A
C
Sure
thank
you
benky
governor
for
the
record,
mr
scheible.
I
think
well
a
it's
to,
I
think,
develop
the
most
robust
pool
of
potential
commissioners
that
we
can
find,
but
also
that
if
we,
if
we
strike
the
requirement
that
that
a
commissioner
cannot
have
any
even
investment
in
esports,
then
a
and
a
three-member
body
can
get
pretty
tricky
pretty
quickly.
C
When
you
talk
about
disclosure
and
recusal,
so
I
think
you
need
to
have
a
large
enough
commission
where
commissioners
can
can
and
recuse
themselves
from
votes,
if
required
and
necessary
to
uphold
the
integrity
of
the
process
and
still
have
a
functioning
body.
So
I
don't
think
s.
I
don't
think
five
is
too
large,
but
I
do
think
three
is
probably
too
small
when
you
remove
it.
C
The
commit
the
commission
itself
can
generate
can
charge
fees
for
registering,
registering
events,
and
things
like
that.
C
So
I
think
the
hope
would
that
it
would
ultimately
become
a
break-even,
self-sufficient
type
of
structure,
but
I
think
for
the
state
right,
the
the
prospect
of
drawing
hundreds
of
thousands
of
new
visitors
to
our
state
through
some
of
the
biggest
competitive
sporting
events
in
the
world
brings
brings
revenue
opportunities
for
the
state
of
nevada
in
an
entirely
new
way,
whether
that's
you
know,
sales
tax
room
nights,
all
of
those
sorts
of
things
that
are
associated
with
it
live
entertainment
tax.
On
these
events.
C
For
for
for
spectators,
those
are
that's
all
benefit
to
the
state
from
a
revenue
perspective.
The
you
know,
the
initial
fiscal
note
for
the
for
the
commission
expects
that
we
would
have
to
fund
this
primarily
the
one
position
and
the
associated
operating
costs
with
general
fund
over
the
initial
biennium,
and
hopefully,
if
it
functions
as
intended,
and
we're
able
to
bring
events
to
the
state
that
fee
revenue
would
gen
would
would
make
this
self
self-sufficient
in
future
years.
But
the
the
commission
itself
is
not
designed
to
make
money
right.
C
It's
designed
to
to
attract
business
to
the
state,
which
will
be
an
economic
benefit
to
our
to
our
entire
community.
A
C
Yeah
fair
question:
I
appreciate
that
and
if,
if
one
of
my
co-presenters
wants
to
jump
in,
I
feel
like
I've
been
dominating
this.
I
apologize,
but
I
think
there
is
a
there's
a
difference
between
you
know,
just
just
the
promotional
aspect
of
what
we
do,
which
lvcva
does
really
really
well
right
and
which
we
should
continue
to
support
and
the
the
structure
that
can
be
created
through
a
body
that
has
some
teeth
to
it.
C
When
it
comes
to
ensuring
fair
play
that
the
competitions
are
are
on
an
equal
playing
field,
that
the
outcomes
are
confident
and
that
can
then
potentially
enforce
rules
that
that
need
to
be
done
so
that
if
we
create
that
type
of
of
ecosystem
that
will
then
attract
events
and
and
players,
then
it's
it's
net
positive
outside
of
just
the
promotion
of
it.
C
It
gives
us,
I
guess
in
some
ways
something
else
to
promote
right,
that
this
would
be
not
just
a
great
place
to
do
your
events,
because
we
have
all
the
infrastructure,
but
we
also
have
the
infrastructure
in
place
to
ensure
that
the
event
has
the
highest
of
standards.
A
Okay,
I
I
get
that.
I
guess
I'm
just
still
confused
about
why.
We
think
that
a
currently
unregulated
industry
would
attract
more
participants
with
regulation.
So
can
you
give
me
another
example
of
a
legal
industry
where
we
implemented
regulations
and
suddenly
more
people
came
to
the
place
where
it
was
regulated,
as
opposed
to
staying
in
places
where
it
was
unregulated.
C
Yeah
ben
key
cover
for
the
record
mixed
martial
arts
is
a
perfect
example
right,
and
so
I
talked
to
mark
ratner
last
week
mark,
if
you
don't
know,
was
the
was
the
executive
director
of
the
united
states
athletic
commission
for
a
long
time
and
then
moved
on
to
ufc
and
works
in-house
there
now,
and
you
know,
he's
he
told
me
when
he
was
the
executive
director
of
the
athletic
commission.
C
He
was
wildly
resistant
to
ufc
and
then
the
fertittas
bought
it
and
they
ran
towards
regulation
and
started
working
with
industry
to
create
some
standardizations
rules
that
that
they
would
follow
and-
and
it's
been
a
wildly
successful
venture
for
them.
C
The
the
fertility
has
decided
to
run
towards
regulation
rather
than
away
from
it,
and
we
know
that
the
success
that
it
had.
So
it's
one
example,
and
I
think
you
raise
a
really
important
question
right.
Why
would
creating
this
type
of
body
attract
people
when
they,
when
it
could
be
the
wild
west
somewhere
else,
and
they
can
do
whatever
and
offering
that
value
to
to
the
publishers
and
to
the
tournament
organization?
C
Organizers
is
a
critical
piece
of
this,
and
I
think
that
there
are
a
number
of
different
things
that
that
can
that
we
can
bring
to
the
table
whether
it's
protecting
ip
right
and
enforcing
that
that
unlicensed
people
are
not
are
not
using
their
ip
either
inappropriately
or
without
without
their
licensing,
whether
it's
the
upholding
integrity
standards
as
it
relates
to
age
and
all
those
things.
So
there
are
a
lot
of
publishers
that
have
all
these
rules
in
place
for
for
their
events
that
they
run.
C
There
are
really
sophisticated
processes
in
place
both
in
the
vertically
integrated
and
diversified
space
in
tournament
organization,
but
I
think
the
potential
of
potentially
putting
it
under
one
roof
and
being
able
to
default
to
the
state,
for
some
of
that
can
add
long-term
value
if,
if
it's
done
properly
and
in
a
way
that
the
industry,
in
a
way
where
the
state
recognizes
industry's
needs
and
concerns.
C
So
it's
look.
It's
a
delicate
balance
right
and
I
certainly
don't
want
to
scare
people
away,
because
that's
that
would
be
antithetical.
C
So,
if
that's
where
we
get
right,
if
we
get
to
a
place
where
this
is
going
to
have
the
opposite
effect,
we
shouldn't
do
it.
B
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
senator
keeker,
for
bringing
the
bill
the
two
questions
of
your
indulgence,
one
for
senator
keith
keffer
or
whoever
cares
to
answer
it
and
the
other
I
saw
mr
burnett
and
my
question.
I
think
his
expertise
in
regulating
gaming
in
nevada
would
be
the
answer
right
now.
Does
the
nevada
athletic
commission
regulate
any
esports,
or
is
it
completely
unregulated
in
nevada?
That's
my
first
question
chair
and
then
my
second
question
is,
I
think,
senator
hansen
talked
about
betting
on
esports
in
nevada
and
senator
keith.
Keffer
says
it
currently
happens.
B
A
I'm
so
sorry
to
interrupt
you,
but
it
looks
like
we
are
still
having
or
having
again
some
technical
difficulties.
So
I'm
going
to
ask
that
we
again
take
a
brief
recess.
Senator
orrinshaw
hold
on
to
that
question,
because
I'm
going
to
ask
you
to
repeat
it
when
we
come
back,
if
it's
more
than
about
60
seconds,
and
we
will
be
now
in
recess.
B
A
All
right,
we
will
call
this
meeting
back
to
order.
We
are
now
out
of
recess
and
in
the
senate
judiciary
committee
we
are
still
hearing
sb
165.
We
are
in
the
process
of
taking
questions
from
members
of
the
committee.
It
was
senator
orrinshall's
turn
presenters.
Do
you
need
him
to
repeat
the
question.
C
Church
schedule
this
is
ben
kiegefer.
I
don't
think
so.
I've
invited
a
former
gaming
control
board
cherry
g
burnett
to
participate
in
the
hearings
as
a
potential
subject
matter:
expert
on
the
on
the
gaming
side,
knowing
that
this
committee
oversees
that
topic
and
the
questions
might
pop
up,
so
I
thought
it
would
be
useful
to
have
someone
with
his
expertise
available
to
answer
questions.
C
I
I
I
That's
comprised
of
industry
and
legislators,
as
you
know,
including
the
regulators
and
one
of
the
topics
that
was
discussed
was
wagering
on
e-sports
and
specifically,
the
question
was
whether
nevada
sportsbooks
should
be
allowed
to
take
wagers
on
e-sporting
events
and
as
everyone
on
the
committee
knows,
we
hold
very
sacred
our
gaming
regulatory
system.
We
did
not
want
to
allow
our
sports
books
to
hold
wagering
types
of
activities
around
events
that
may
not
be
suitable.
I
That
committee
unanimously
decided
that
allowing
our
sports
folks
to
take
wagers
on
esports
events
was
something
that
was
a
positive
regulated.
Sports
betting
is
conducted
safe
in
a
safe
and
open
fashion
in
nevada,
highly
regulated,
and
since
then
there
have
been
wagers
taken
by
our
nevada
sports
books
on
esports
events.
The
process
for
doing
that
senator
is
it's
it's
technically
deemed
an
other
event
under
nevada
gaming,
commission
regulation
right
22,
whereby
the
sports
betting
operator,
the
sports
book
licensed
gaming
operator,
makes
an
application
to
the
gaming
control
board.
I
The
gaming
control
board
reviews
the
application
takes
a
look
at
the
event
and
there's
a
laundry
list
of
requirements
that
the
event
has
to
meet
in
order
for
the
book
to
be
approved
to
take
wagering.
On
that
event,
things
such
as
fairness
of
the
match
integrity
of
the
match,
known
outcome
outcome
that
is
verifiable
by
independent
third
parties.
I
Those
kinds
of
guard
rails
are
in
place
and
that's
the
process
that's
been
used
up
until
now,
and
of
course,
I
would
anticipate
that
that
would
be
the
process
going
forward,
as
senator
key
keffer
mentioned.
I'd
emphasize
that
this
is
completely
different
from
gambling
gaming,
and
this
is
something
that
betting
is
already
going
on
in
regards
to
in
nevada
in
a
licensed
fashion
and
then
outside
of
the
state
of
nevada
in
other
jurisdictions
in
the
rest
of
the
world,
in
potentially
a
non-regulated
fashion.
B
A
You
and
I
see
that
we
have
another
question
from
senator
hansen-
we're
running
a
little
bit
short
on
time,
but
not
too
short,
so
I
will
give
you
a
second
bite
at
the
apple
as
long
as
it's
not
too
big
a
bite.
D
Nice
to
see
you
again,
I
served
on
that
policy
committee
back
in
2015..
I
remember
well
because
I've
never
felt
more
over
my
head
in
my
entire
life.
I
don't
think
I
said
one
word
the
entire
time
we
were
there.
The
only
question
I
have
about
this
is,
I
think
I
think
the
whole
concept's
wonderful.
D
Are
there
other
examples,
though,
where
you
have
an
industry
like
say
boxing,
which
is
covered
by
a
separate,
a
separate
commission
that
that
the
any
of
the
betting
processes
or
gambling
or,
however,
you
want
to
phrase
it
falls
under
the
jurisdiction,
so
the
gaming
control
board,
because
that's
it
sounds
like
if
I'm
understanding
this
right
with
with
the
esport
concept,
there'll
be
a
regulatory
commission,
but
any
kind
of
betting
would
still
fall
under
the
jurisdiction
of
gaming
and
any
of
the
control
board
or
or
the
commission.
D
I
Cherish
scheible
through
you
to
senator
hanson.
Thank
you
for
the
question,
a.g
burnett
again
for
the
record
and
by
the
way,
senator
hansen.
You
were
never
in
over
your
head
and
you
were
always
great
to
work
with
in
in
nevada.
I
I
Gaming
control
board
and
gaming
commission,
so
when
someone
wants
to
take
a
wager
related
to
anything
whether
it's
a
baseball
game,
football
game,
basketball,
game
or
an
esports
event
that
is
always
conducted
through
licensed
gaming
operators,
and
I
may
not
understand
your
your
question
correctly.
So
I
apologize
in
advance
this
commission.
As
I
understand
it,
would
be
merely
for
lack
of
a
better
term,
an
olive
branch
to
the
entire
esports
industry
to
bring
as
many
large-scale
esports
events
to
the
state.
D
A
D
D
K
K
K
D
D
K
Christopher
laporte,
l,
a
capital,
p,
o
r
t
e,
first
and
foremost
like
to
thank
senator
kikifer
the
panel
and
the
senate
judiciary
committee
for
the
leadership
initiative.
Sb
165.
The
discussed
amendments
has
my
full
support.
I've
been
involved
in
the
esports
space
here
in
las
vegas
since
2005..
K
Ten
years
ago,
I
owned
a
video
game
lounge
in
downtown
las
vegas,
a
small
business
venture
that
enjoyed
revenues
up
to
four
million
dollars
annually.
That
attracted
local
populations,
as
well
as
international
audiences,
say
that
same
video
game
industry
is
valued
at
180
billion
dollars
four
times
what
it
was
when
insert
coins
opened
and
esports
represents
a
significant
piece
of
this
massive
global
market.
K
To
maintain
our
title
of
the
entertainment
capital
of
the
world,
we
must
embrace
the
world
of
video
gaming
and
esports.
Sp
165
is
a
great
first
step
to
diversifying
our
amenities
for
both
our
local
businesses
and
our
tourist
economy.
In
2003,
a
small
community
supported
las
vegas
wranglers
say
that
community
investment
created
the
las
vegas
golden
knights.
K
D
D
J
B-I-R-G-I-N-I-A-B-A-L-E-N-T-I-N-E,
president
of
the
nevada
resort
association
good
afternoon,
madam
chairman
chairwoman
and
committee
members,
I
represent
the
nevada
resort
association
of
more
than
76
resort
hotels
across
the
state.
I
speak
today
in
support
of
sb
165
and
thank
senator
keikofur
for
his
work
on
the
bill.
We're
very
excited
about
the
prospects.
J
Esports
competitions
are
an
emerging
industry
with
significant
growth
potential.
It's
estimated
that
more
than
5
000
esports
tournaments
were
held
globally
in
2019
and
attracted
millions
of
viewers.
Esports
is
well
on
its
way
to
becoming
a
billion
dollar
industry
with
legions
of
devoted
fans
prior
to
the
pandemic,
esports
tournaments
for
gaining
in
popularity
in
las
vegas
and
drawing
visitors
from
around
the
world.
The
timing
fits
perfectly
with
the
recovery
of
nevada's
tourism
industry.
J
The
creation
of
an
esports
commission
will
validate
esports
competitions
and
ensure
the
integrity
of
games,
while
attracting
these
large
events
and
the
economic
activity
that
comes
with
them
and
where
better
than
nevada,
to
be
the
first
to
do
this.
Our
gaming
regulatory
structure
has
long
been
viewed
as
the
gold
standard
internationally
and
nationally
and
has
ensured
the
integrity
of
nevada's
largest
industry
modeling.
The
esports
commission,
after
the
nevada
athletic
commission,
will
establish
nevada
as
a
leader
in
esports
and
give
the
state
a
competitive
advantage
in
attracting
these
high
profile
events.
J
D
K
D
K
Thank
you.
My
name
is
sam
mcmullen
v
or
the
fifth
spelled
s-a-m-m-c-m-u-l-l-e-n
roman
numeral
five,
I'm
the
president
of
geeks
gg
inc,
which
is
an
esports
community
platform
and
a
nevada
nevada
based
company
that
supports
a
growing
audience
of
millions
of
student
gamers,
their
organizations
and
their
community
groups
at
more
than
fifteen
hundred
colleges
and
universities
and
growing
across
the
united
states.
We
work
closely
with
unlv
blackfire
innovation
and
recently
recently
we
were
awarded
the
catalyst
grant
from
unlv
and
blackfire
under
sports
research
at
geeks.
K
K
K
I
myself
have
been
involved
with
the
video
gaming
and
esports
industries
during
my
undergraduate
studies
at
the
university
of
southern
california
and
then,
after
my
graduation
in
2001
all
the
way
to
the
present.
I
have
been
fortunate
during
this
time
to
have
worked
with
closely
and
alongside
many
of
the
passionate
and
talented
people
who
created
and
fostered
the
foundation
on
which
this
globally
growing
sport
is
built.
K
Since
2015,
I
have
been
actively
working
to
create
a
bridge
between
the
global
esports
industry
and
nevada
senate
bill
165
establishes
the
framework
and
is
a
good
first
step
done
correctly.
This
will
provide
an
economic
boost
to
our
state
through
the
tourism
that
comes
from
attracting
the
best
of
the
best
to
our
great
state.
Esports
will
generate
new
tourism
as
well
that
will
bring
with
it
additional
revenues
and
help
with
the
quick
recovery
of
our
state
after
this
pandemic.
K
We
are
on
the
cusp
of
something
great
here,
similar
to
where
we
were
in
the
1990s
when,
as
a
state,
we
reinvented
ourselves
and
benefited
off
of
the
great
expansion
of
our
economy
from
tourism
revenues
and
economic
development.
I
urge
your
passage
of
senate
bill
165..
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
testify
in
this
important
meeting.
D
D
L
Hello
senate
committee
on
judiciary
this
is
zach
conan,
c-a-c-h
last
name
c-o-n-I-n-e.
I
have
the
pleasure
of
being
your
state
treasurer.
She
wanted
to
call
and
offer
my
support
of
this
bill
and
to
thank
senator
kiker
and
the
other
presenters
for
bringing
it
forward.
Esports
and
the
economic
benefit
from
them
have
exploded
in
recent
years.
Nevada's
history
of
effectively
regulating
contests
of
skill
should
put
us
in
the
pole
position
to
take
the
benefit
of
it.
L
We
spend
a
lot
of
time
discussing
the
best
ways
for
our
state
to
diversify
our
economy,
to
generate
revenue
and
to
build
the
nevada
we
all
deserve.
This
bill
moves
us
closer
to
the
goal,
and
I
urge
your
support
on
a
personal
note.
If
the
treasury
thing
doesn't
work
out,
I'm
pretty
good
at
fortnite.
Thank
you.
D
J
Hello,
my
name
is
dr
jennifer:
verridi
spelled
j-e-n-n,
I
f
e
r
v,
like
victor
e
r.
I
v,
like
victor
e.
Thank
you
very
much
senators
and
madam
chair.
I've
never
provided
public
comments,
I'm
rather
excited
and
a
little
nervous,
I'm
calling
in
as
a
parent.
So
I
am
adjunct.
Adjunct
faculty
at
western
nevada
college,
I'm
in
senator
kikifer's
district,
and
I
was
really
excited
to
see
this
bill.
My
daughter
is
14
year
old
she's
at
carson
high
school.
J
J
They
may
be
college
kids
and
the
oversight
that
this
kind
of
commission
could
provide
would
be
extremely
valuable
and
to
some
of
the
other
senators
comments,
this
isn't
something
that
is
only
affecting
us
in
nevada,
it's
affecting
us
in
the
united
states
and
all
over
the
world,
and
I
would
be
so
proud
for
my
daughter
to
get
to
participate
in
a
process
that
her
state
where
she
was
born,
is
leading
the
way
as
a
parent.
I
would
feel
better
and
it
would,
and
it
would
make
what
she
does
a
real
thing.
J
You
know
as
an
academic,
I
can
share
some
research
that
shows
that
the
average
esport
athlete
chooses
a
stem
college
career.
That's
what
they
want
to
pursue.
It's
a
stem
career.
They
pick
stem
majors,
so
these
are
smart,
kids
that
we're
supporting
and
developing
into
adults
that
can
benefit
our
state
in
so
many
ways.
Thank
you.
D
L
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
the
record.
My
name
is
andrew
dis.
That's
a
n
d
r
e
w
d-r-e-w-d-I-s-s,
I'm
the
vice
president
of
government
affairs
for
morel
gaming,
which
owns
and
operates
the
saharan
las
vegas
and
grand
sierra
resort
in
reno.
I'm
here
to
testify
in
support
of
sb
165,
and
I
want
to
thank
senator
keatcaffer
for
proactively
reaching
out
to
the
gaming
community
to
get
our
thoughts
on
the
bill.
L
Our
company
views
esports
as
an
opportunity
that
we'll
be
able
to
integrate
into
our
live
entertainment
offerings
as
well
as
incorporating
into
our
wagering
opportunities,
which
is
why
having
robust
integrity
protections
in
place
is
so
important
in
nevada.
We
know
a
thing
or
two
about
how
to
stand
up
effective
conditions
that
bring
increased
oversight
and
integrity
to
fields
like
gaming,
boxing
and
mixed
martial
arts,
and
these
are
activities
that
bring
millions
of
visitors
to
our
state
each
year,
and
we
believe
that
esports
events
will
do
the
same.
As
mr
hamilton
touched
on
his
remarks.
L
The
average
esports
fan
is
27
years
old,
which
fits
well
into
one
of
the
largest
demographics
that
we
currently
market
to
and
over
the
last
year,
as
leagues
and
casinos
have
dealt
with
the
impacts
of
kohit,
we
began
to
see
an
uptick
in
non-traditional
events
that
were
already
being
approved
by
gaming
control
for
wagering.
So.
J
L
A
D
K
Timothy
johnson
j-o-h-n-s-o-n,
I'm
testifying
here
today
on
behalf
of
the
entertainment
software
association,
the
entertainment
association
serves
as
the
voice
and
advocate
for
the
u.s
video
game
industry
esa
member
companies
are
the
publishers
of
many
of
the
biggest
titles
used
in
esports
games
today.
Earlier
today,
our
government
relations
team
had
a
very
productive
call
with
senator
kihper.
However,
our
members
still
have
concerns
with
the
bill
as
written,
so
we
must
oppose.
However,
we
are
committed
to
continuing
to
work
with
senator
key
kepper
to
address
these
concerns.
K
Primarily
our
members
concerns
relate
to
the
application
of
the
bill
to
the
unique
aspects
of
esports
games,
such
as
the
presence
of
an
underlying
intellectual
property.
Additionally,
our
members,
who
already
take
a
number
of
steps
to
promote
game
integrity
feel
that
if
the
regulations
are
over
burdensome,
it
may
have
a
chilling
effect
on
the
industry.
We
look
forward
to
continuing
the
conversations
with
senator
keith
kepper
regarding
our
concerns.
Thank
you,
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
for
your
time
here.
D
D
D
D
L
T-E-R-R-Y-R-E-Y-N-O-L-D-S,
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
address
this
matter.
The
department
of
business
and
industry
concurs
with
the
establishment
of
an
esports
commission
and
feels
that
this
will
benefit
greatly
benefit
the
state
of
nevada.
As
you
probably
know,
business
and
industry
regularly
works
with
hotel
convention
and
community
properties
on
events,
both
professional
and
amateur.
L
So
we
have
about
six
and
a
half
years.
Currently
with
the
current
staff
in
working
with
the
nevada
athletic
commission,
the
commission
was
moved
under
the
department
of
administration
under
the
governor's
finance
office,
but
we
still
regularly
work
with
mr
bennett
and
the
commission
on
their
events
and
we're
working
on
several
right
now.
So
just
wanted
you
to
know
that
we
have
the
experience
and
happy
to
answer
any
questions
later
on.
Should
they
come
up
regarding
the
creation
of
professional
boards
and
funding
of
the
operation
of
the
commission
when
that
topic
is
addressed?
Thank
you.
A
All
right,
thank
you
again
for
all
of
your
help,
mr
kyle.
I
will
skip
it
back
to
senator
kikefor
briefly,
if
you
have
any
closing
remarks
or
responses,
but
you
don't
have
to.
C
Oh
thank
you
church.
I
appreciate
it
I'd
like
to
thank
timothy
johnson
from
the
esa,
as
well
as
all
of
the
representative,
the
publishers
that
were
on
that
call
that
he
referenced
this
morning.
I
this
is
certainly
something
that
is
needs
to
be
a
partnership
with
industry,
and
I
think
we
agreed
that
we
need
to
continue
to
talk
and
have
some
more
conversations
about
what
that
added
value
is
that
you
and
I
discussed
earlier
chair
and
ensure
that
we're
on
the
same
page,
so
that
we're
doing
something
that
can
benefit
everyone.
C
But
you
know
from
from
where
I
sit
and
what
I
do
in
this
building.
It
is
about
bringing
more
people
to
our
state.
It
is
about
creating
a
technology
ecosystem
that
is
directly
in
line
with
our
economic
development
plan
and
to
support
the
governor's
proposal
to
bring
remote
work
into
our
state
in
a
new
way,
and
I
think
that
this
is
a
bill
that
does
all
of
those
things.
So
I'm
really
excited
about
the
prospect
of
what
this
can
be.
C
I'd
like
to
thank
mr
hamilton
fatality
and
miss
motley
for
joining
me
today
and
I'll
leave
it
with
them
sure.
A
All
right
and
mr
burnett
too,
thank
you
for
answering
your
questions
and
with
that
I
will
close
the
hearing
on
sb
165.
That
takes
us
to
the
last
item
on
our
agenda,
which
is
public
comment
broadcast.
Is
there
anybody
here
to
give
public
comment.
D
D
M
Ann
marie
grant
a-n-n-e-m-a-r-I-e
g-r-a-n-t,
my
brother,
thomas
purdy,
was
38
years
old
when
he
was
hog-tied
for
40-plus
minutes
by
reno
police
during
a
mental
health
crisis
and
then
affixated
to
death,
while
still
hogties
in
the
prom
position.
My
brother
had
been
uncombative,
unassaulted
unarmed
and
simply
asked
for
help.
It's
the
little
things
I
missed
the
most
from
my
brother,
a
hug,
a
phone
call
the
way
he
was
so
protective
of
my
son
and
would
always
make
sure
that
nobody
was
bothering
my
son,
I
miss
hearing
him
say
I
love
you.
M
M
M
Please
support
bills
that
promote
transparency
and
accountability.
Please
do
not
support
bills
that
provide
any
further
protections
to
police
than
they
already
have
in
your
peace
officers.
Biller
rights,
my
family
and
so
many
other
families
are
counting
on.
You,
nevada
had
several
george
floyd's
of
its
own,
including
my
brother
and
the
two
other
men
justin
thompson
and
nico
smith,
who
were
also
asphyxiated
to
death,
a
horrible
horrible
torturous
way
to
die.
Thank
you.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
ms
grant,
for
your
public
comment
and
thank
you,
mr
kyle,
for
helping
us
with
the
broadcast
today.
Thank
you
to
everybody
who
came
in
and
testified
and
presented
bills.
Ask
questions
answer
questions.
We
really
appreciate.
All
of
your
participation
couldn't
do
it
without
you,
and
with
that
I
will
close
the
meeting.
We
will
be
meeting
again
tomorrow.
At
the
same
time,
1pm.
We
are
now.