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A
Thank
you
so
much
ms
wells
and
welcome
everybody.
I
will
now
call
this
meeting
to
order.
It
is
monday
march
22nd
welcome
to
the
senate
committee
on
judiciary,
judiciary
of
the
81st
legislative
session.
With
the
secretary.
Please
call
the
goal.
A
Please
mark
senator
picker
as
present
when
he
arrives,
and
I
will
try
to
remember
to
make
a
note
of
it
as
well.
C
A
And
I
am
here
and
with
that
we
have
a
quorum
and
we
are
ready
to
begin.
We
also
have
mr
patrick
guiding
with
us
from
the
legislative
council
bureau.
He
is
our
policy
analyst
and
nick
anthony.
Our
committee
council
is
always
available
to
answer
questions
for
us,
as
he
has
been
for
several
weeks
now.
He
is
busy
drafting
legislation
and
unable
to
sit
in
on
the
meeting
in
lifetime,
but
again
remains
available
to
us
to
answer
questions
before
we
dive
into
our
first
and
only
bill
hearing
today.
A
I
do
want
to
go
over
two
quick
housekeeping
items.
The
first
is
that
our
committee
is
still
missing
some
bill
draft
requests,
and
by
missing
I
mean
we
still
have
some
bill
draft
requests
to
approve
and
introduce
as
bills.
We
have
the
luxury
of
meeting
every
single
day,
so
hopefully
we
will
be
able
to
review
any
that
still
come
in
and
address
them
in
our
normal
meetings.
However,
it's
also
possible
that
we
will
have
to
have
a
floor
meeting
to
introduce
one
of
those
bills.
A
You
all
receive
directions
from
our
secretary
of
the
senate
regarding
the
protocol
for
floor
meetings,
which
has
changed
significantly
due
to
copa
19
protocols,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
everybody
was
aware
of
that
and
had
a
minute
to
take
a
look
at
those
before
our
next
floor
session.
In
case
we
are
one
of
the
lucky
committees
that
gets
to
do
a
floor
session
of
our
committee
meeting.
The
other
thing
that
I
wanted
to,
let
you
know
about
is
that
we
will
now
be
meeting
on
fridays.
A
I
know
it
has
been
very
nice
to
not
be
here
or
there
or
wherever
you
might
zoom
in
from
on
fridays,
but
this
committee
simply
has
a
large
enough
workload
that
we
have
to
start
doing
those
friday
meetings
they
will
be
at
1pm.
I
believe
this.
The
agenda
has
been
published
for
this
friday's
meeting.
If
not,
please
expect
to
see
that
shortly
and
those
are
all
the
housekeeping
items
that
I
have
with
that.
A
E
Good
afternoon
sheriff
scheibel
and
committee
members,
I'm
terry
beck,
representing
senate
district
5
in
clark
county.
Thank
you
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
present
senate
bill
136
to
you
today.
This
bill
represents
an
important
and
much
needed
improvement
in
assisting
those
who
are
re-entering
society
to
become
productive
citizens
after
being
incarcerated.
E
The
bill
streamlines
the
process
to
get
either
a
valid
nevada
identification
card
or
renewal
driver's
license
issued
by
the
department
of
motor
vehicles
prior
to
release
joining
me
today
to
help
present
the
bill
and
answer.
Your
questions
are
nadia
crawl,
judge
of
department,
4
clark,
county,
edward
evacua,
director
of
education,
novum
university
and
mike
hartman
from
the
national
conference
of
state
legislatures
criminal
justice
division.
E
Having
people
get
their
legal
id
issued,
while
in
prison,
provides
the
best
assurance
that
the
person
applying
for
the
id
is
the
actual
person
that
needs
the
id.
For
example,
the
nevada
department
of
corrections
the
doc
is
holding
the
prisoner
named
a.
Therefore,
the
goal
of
the
bill
is
to
provide
the
prisoner
named
a
with
a
legal
nevada
id
when
he
or
she
lives
leaves
prison.
E
Just
a
bit
of
background
information.
Before
I
go
into
specific
provisions
of
sb
136,
I
would
like
to
provide
a
little
background
in
2013,
this
legislature
passed
senate
bill
423,
which
got
the
ball
rolling
by
authorizing
the
nevada
department
of
corrections
to
create
id
cards
for
offenders
released
from
prior
to
release
from
prison.
E
Now,
I'm
not
completely
sure
why
I
completely
separate
id
process
was
created
when
the
green
striped
prison
ids
are
invariable
invariably
useless
for
inmates
to
do
to
do
even
simple
things
like
cash,
a
check,
rent,
a
hotel
or
get
a
job,
and
every
session
since
2013.
This
body
has
tried
to
fix
this
situation,
to
no
avail.
Inmates
continue
to
leave
prison
facilities
across
nevada
with
a
useless
prison
id
that
has
less
validity
than
a
costco
card
or
ymc
membership.
E
So
my
colleague
senator
hansen
has
worked
on
this
very
issue
every
single
session
since
since
he's
been
here
when
a
person
is
released
with
little
more
than
the
clothes
on
his
or
her
back
and
they
get
a
green
stripe,
prison
id
he
or
she
is
expected
to
get
a
job
or
stand
in
line
three
to
four
hours
to
turn
in
their
voucher
that
that
is
given
to
them
to
get
a
legal
nevada
id
or
they
have
to
wait
for
three
to
four
months
for
an
actual
appointment.
E
This
bill.
This
bill
attempts
to
fix
this
issue
yet
again-
and
I
hope
we
can
get
this
done
this
time
so
as
stated
by
the
dmv,
a
global
solution
covering
everyone
being
released
from
prisons,
including
out-of-state
residents
and
or
non-citizens
those
leaving
nevada
upon
release
and
inmates
in
all
jails
across
the
state
would
be
too
overwhelming
and
out
of
reach
for
the
doc
or
the
dmv.
E
So
therefore,
after
many
meetings,
the
compromise
and
the
way
to
ensure
this
bill
is
implemented
correctly
for
a
subset
of
this
population,
at
the
very
least,
will
be
what
I
call
a
crawl
walk
run
approach
by
this.
I
mean
that
the
dmv
can
begin
by
furnishing,
id's
and
or
driver's
license
to
those
who
are
already
registered
in
their
system
and
whose
identities
can
be
easily
verified.
E
E
The
second
one
would
be
entered
prison
with
a
valid
driver's
license
or
id
that
has
expired
while
in
prison,
and
this
is
a
substantial
amount,
a
renewal
of
someone
where
the
chain
of
custody
is
intact,
that
is,
there
is
no
issue
of
identity
theft
or
number
three
entered
prison
with
a
suspended
or
revoked
driver's
license
via
dui
and
who
are
now
required
to
repres
possess
a
nevada
id
reclassification
from
driver's
license
to
id.
E
E
It
is
important
to
note
that
for
most
people
we
can
go
to
the
dmv's
portal
and
order
a
duplicate
or
renewal
license
without
having
to
get
a
new
picture
taken.
So
after
meeting
a
few
times
to
discuss
solutions,
the
dmv
understands
and
is
working
on
an
approach
with
doc
and
is
creating
processes
and
procedures
to
do
those
three
subsets.
E
I
believe
this
is
a
path
forward
towards
success
for
about
in
between
a
third,
a
half
of
the
inmates
transitioning
to
parole,
which
is
a
start
so
with
these
goals
in
mind.
If,
if
you
look
now
at
sc
136,
it
creates
a
mechanism
whereby
the
dmv
works
with
ndoc,
and
it
will
make
it
possible
for
the
inmate
to
obtain
those
drivers
license
for
that.
Those
specific
subgroups
sets
forth
in
section
three.
It
sets
forth
the
requirements
of
an
offender
that
must
meet
the
information.
E
The
next
part
provides
that
once
an
application
is
completed,
that
ndoc
must
immediately
transmit
it
to
the
dmv
for
processing
and
that
the
dmv
must
process
the
application
issue.
The
id
card
and
transmit
it
to
ndoc
to
be
given
to
the
applicant
and
then
provides
that
any
id
card
issued
under
these
provisions
must
indicate
clearly
that
the
dmv
has
verified
the
full
legal
name
and
age
of
the
offender,
as
they
are
already
in
the
dmv
system.
E
The
remaining
sections
of
the
bill
are
technical
in
nature
and
made
conforming
changes
to
statutes,
in
addition
to
providing
that
the
bill
is
effective
upon
passage
and
approval
for
administrative
purposes
and
is
agreed
upon
in
the
latest.
Conceptual
agreement,
which
is
january
first,
will
allow
them
to
get
this
implemented
between
the
two
entities,
and
so
the
goal
is
just
simple.
It's
qualified
inmates
leave
prison
with
a
valid
nevada
id
the
fiscal
impact.
So
regarding
any
of
these
fiscal
impacts
from
the
government
agencies.
E
E
A
lot
of
times,
evictions
happen
and
all
of
their
stuff
is
is
gone
when
they
come
out,
and
so,
if
you
look
at
the
fiscal
ramifications
with
this,
you
figure
employment's,
going
to
reduce
recidivism
and
recidivism
costs,
perhaps
20
000
to
30
000
per
inmate
per
year,
and
probably
more
if
the
pre
card
costs,
including
pmp
costs,
are
included.
E
So
people
who
are
not
employed
often
turn
to
crime,
because
because
it's
the
only
way
to
acquire
money
when
people
are
working,
pmp
officers
should
be
more
effective
when
people
are
legally
working.
Employees
and
employers
pay
more
taxes,
social
security
and
employment,
insurance,
etc.
People
who
are
legally
employed
also
feel
better
about
themselves
and
life
in
general.
E
They
need
not
operate
in
the
shadows,
so
the
fiscal
impact,
if
you
could,
can
be
built
around
a
financial
model
showing
that
each
inmate
who
does
not
go
back
to
prison
for
lack
of
an
id,
a
job
and
successful
re-engagement
into
society,
will
save
the
state
between
twenty
thousand
dollars.
At
minimum,
in
incarceration
costs,
it
only
takes
one
or
two
people
not
going
back
to
prison
to
pay
to
get
an
id
for
a
hundred
people.
E
It
is
possible
that
20
percent
will
not
come
commit
and
we're
hoping
to
track
this
data
for
the
legislature.
The
benefits
of
providing
inmates
with
a
valid
id
upon
release
far
outweighs
the
burdens
of
providing
it.
Our
discussions
with
the
dmv
and
doc
are
ongoing,
and
I
hope
we
can
get
to
a
place
where
there
is
virtually
no
impact.
E
I
will,
of
course,
inform
the
committee
of
any
developments
on
this
front
prior
to
the
work
session
on
the
bill
should
one
be
held,
so
in
conclusion,
having
a
legal
id
is
an
essential,
essential
first
step
in
providing
second
chances.
Our
current
system
is
fraught
with
barriers
that
make
it
difficult
to
stay
on
the
right
path.
We
are
setting
people
up
to
return
to
what
they
know
and
re-enter
the
system.
This
small
investment
of
time
and
effort
on
our
part
will
make
a
huge
difference
for
those
who
deserve
a
second
chance
senate
bill.
E
136
will
empower
this
vulnerable
population
to
make
the
right
choices
upon
release
and
move
forward
towards
success.
It
will
ensure
that
inmates
close
close
to
parole
can
get
an
official
government
issued
id,
so
they
can
cash
a
check,
get
a
job
and
become
become
contributing.
Members
of
our
society,
the
doc
already
provided
identification
cards
and
I
passed
those
out
to
all
the
committee
members.
They
were
confidential,
but
I
wanted
you
to
see
them
because
they
they
make
me
sad
that
we
can't
give
them
an
official
id.
E
The
dmv
already
works
with
former
inmates
to
get
them
valid,
ids
and
driver's
license.
Now,
let's
take
this
to
the
next
step
by
streaming
up
streamlining
the
process
before
they
leave
prison
so
that
these
citizens
can
have
a
brighter
future,
the
minute
they
walk
out
of
the
gate.
I
believe
this
will
help
it
help
them
so
that
they
don't
have
to
go
back
into
the
gate.
This
is
a
worthy
cause.
These
are
people
who
deserve
a
second
chance.
This
is
the
right
thing
to
do.
C
Thank
you
senator
buck.
I
really
appreciate
you
asking
me
to
speak
and
I
appreciate
the
courage
that
you
have
to
bring
this
bill.
Obviously
this
relates
to
prisoners,
and
one
of
the
things
that
this
bill
can
establish
is
one
reducing
homelessness,
which
is
a
huge
problem
in
the
state
of
nevada,
especially
las
vegas
and
clark
county.
Where
I'm
from
you
have
people
coming
out
of
the
prison
system,
they
don't
have
ids
and
they
can't
get
a
job.
One
of
the
first
thing
they
do
is
become
homeless
after
they
do
transitional
housing
if
they're
not
working.
C
The
second
thing
that
this
bill
will
do
will
allow
them
to
get
jobs
and
when
you
have
a
job,
you're
less
likely
to
commit
a
crime.
So
one
you're
going
to
reduce
homelessness
and
two
you're
going
to
reduce
crime.
You
are
the
legislators.
You
are
the
ones
who
create
the
law,
I'm
a
judge.
I
am
simply
there
to
follow
the
law
that
you
decide
and
this
bill
senate
bill.
C
136
can
make
our
economy
more
vibrant
and
reduce
homelessness
and
reduce
crime,
and
that
not
only
benefits
the
people
who
have
been
in
the
legal
system,
but
it
also
benefits
our
community
and
no
one
knows
the
identity
of
a
person
better
than
the
prison
system,
so
there
can't
be
any
fraud
as
to
who
is
getting
an
id,
because
the
prison
system
already
knows
who
these
people
actually
are.
This
bill
is
very
narrowly
tailored
to
people
who
already
have
nevada,
ids
or
nevada
driver's
licenses.
C
F
Mew
good
afternoon,
chair
scheible
committee
members
and
thank
you
senator
buck
for
inviting
me
to
have
the
opportunity
to
speak.
My
name
is
edward
bevellock.
I
represent
nova
meu,
which
is
a
business
that
current
currently
provides
existential
services
to
over
1,
000
nevada
inmates
and
returning
citizens.
F
Thank
you
for
giving
the
opportunity
to
support
senate
bill
136.
I
too
hope
you
agree
that
this
bill
represents
a
simple,
important
and
much
needed
improvement
in
assisting
those
released
from
president.
The
bill
simply
streamlines
and
secures
the
process
of
obtaining
a
valid
nevada
identification
card.
As
senator
buck
said.
There's
a
lot
of
talk
about
the
importance
of
second
chances
in
helping
returning
citizens
get
back
into
society.
F
This
bill
is
a
simple,
yet
essential
step
in
turning
the
talk
into
reality.
Here's
the
problem
without
ballot
id
no
working
age,
adult
can
properly
function
in
society
for
virtually
every
ex-felon.
This
means
no
job,
which
means
no
money.
No
credit,
no
housing,
no
cell
phone,
no
car,
no
ability
to
buy
anything.
It
means
no
self-sufficiency.
F
The
best
way
for
returning
citizens
to
hit
the
ground
running
is
to
provide
a
real
nevada
id
when
they
leave
prison
and,
at
all
end
it
also
and
importantly
means
that
that
person
is
the
actual
person
that
needs
the
id.
That
is,
it
eliminates
the
need
for
returning
citizens
to
steal
or
borrow
somebody
else's
identification.
F
Having
valid
id
upon
relays
creates
a
strong
feeling
of
empowerment,
success
and
plot
and
success
as
possible.
I'd
like
to
give
a
little
background
information
on
who
we
are
since
2013
november
has
been
helping.
Inmates
learn
important
skills,
so
they
can
obtain
stable,
leading
and
livable
wage
employment
in
a
field
of
their
choosing,
not
unskilled
labor
jobs
that
don't
last
long
since
2018
nova
meu
has
been
providing
basic
needs,
including
housing,
clothing,
food
hygiene,
cell
phone
and
transportation
plus
counseling
and
education,
employment
services
to
reentering
citizens.
F
F
F
All
studies
show
that
stable
and
meaningful
employment
is
the
best
antidote
to
recidivism
and
that
the
lack
of
marketable
skills,
not
prison,
is
the
major
barrier
to
such
employment.
This
means
that
helping
people
learn
is
essential.
Novamu's
focus
is
on
helping
students
learn
those
necessary
skills.
F
Here's
today's
reality,
I'd
like
to
provide
a
snapshot
of
the
typical
first
day
for
a
typical
returning
citizen
who
rolls
to
our
program
late
mornings.
We
get
a
call
from
parole
and
probation
headquarters
on
bonanza,
instructing
us
to
come,
get
them
they're,
easy
to
spot,
because
they're
wearing
their
prison
uniforms.
F
They
carry
a
few
possessions
in
cardboard
boxes,
if
lucky
or
otherwise,
in
a
laundry
bag
or
clear
garbage
bag.
We
need
to
get
them
something
to
eat
because
they
haven't
they've
been
up
since
four
o'clock
in
the
morning
preparing
for
the
bus
trip
down
later.
We
present
them
with
a
high
quality
t-mobile
cell
phone,
with
unlimited
data
in
minutes,
because
they
blow
up
any
other
phone
with
all
the
apps
and
music
and
and
things
like
that
that
they
can.
F
We
then
take
them
to
get
clothing
around
5
pm.
We
take
them
to
a
motel
as
a
condition
of
their
parole.
Without
our
assistance,
none
could
legally
check
in
because
they
don't
have
id
it's
only
because
of
us
that
those
with
the
white
id
with
the
green
stripe
can
check
in
not
everyone
exits
prison
with
us.
Even
with
this
identity.
F
F
F
F
Imagine
the
challenges
for
those
who
are
not
in
a
program
that
provides
housing,
clothing,
food
hygiene,
transportation
supplement,
meaning
the
people
the
judge
was
talking
about.
The
prison
environment
is
basically
warehousing
people,
especially
in
the
past
year,
when
virtually
all
programming,
including
our
classrooms
at
southern
desert
and
florence
employer
were
shut
down.
This
does
not
provide
ex-felons
for
today's
world.
F
F
F
E
And
last
cherish
tribal
mike
hartman
from
the
national
conference
of
state
legislatures.
Thank
you.
G
Good
afternoon
sheri,
shrival
and
committee
members,
I
am
michael
hartman
representing
the
national
conference
of
state
legislatures.
Thank
you
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
speak
regarding
sd
136
today,
I
was
asked
to
give
a
brief
overview
of
the
legislative
landscape
across
the
nation
regarding
photo
identification
for
re-entry.
G
Although
legislators
have
taken
many
approaches
to
address
the
issue
being
dealt
with
today,
I
will
try
to
focus
my
brief
talk
on
the
states
which
have
as
similar
a
situation
as
nevada
as
possible.
Given
the
diversity
of
state
statutes
and
regulations
that
currently
exist,
it
is
important
to
first
point
out
that
not
all
states
have
chosen
to
legislate
this
topic.
G
However,
that
does
not
mean
they
do
not
provide
identification
cards
through
other
agencies,
such
as
department
of
motor
vehicles
or
department
of
corrections,
for
example,
colorado's
department
of
correction
reviews,
every
individual
on
intake
and
release
to
determine
whether
they
will
need
assistance
in
receiving
a
colorado
state
id
with
that
said,
approximately
13
states
do
have
legislation
aimed
at
helping
previous
offenders
get
identification
either
at
release
or
immediately
following
of
those.
Only
west
virginia
creates
a
program
to
stay
unpaid
court
costs,
which
is
a
common
barrier
to
identification
cards.
G
The
state
effectively
allows
individuals
to
apply
for
an
identification
card
as
though
they
do
not
owe
any
costs
so
long
as
they
continue
to
make
their
repayment
plan
payments.
The
remaining
12
statutes
address
the
assistance
opportunity
or
provision
of
either
temporary
or
permanent
identification
cards.
G
Utah
new
york
and
arizona
all
provide
for
temporary
identification
cards,
leaving
nine
states
which
focus
on
permanent
identification
of
those
nebraska
is
the
only
state
which
simply
provides
the
opportunity
to
apply
for
an
identification
card
as
opposed
to
assistance
with
the
application
of
the
remaining
eight
states.
Only
mississippi
north
carolina
and
wisconsin
explicitly
provide
for
driver's
license.
The
remaining
five
states
focus
on
valid
state
identification
cards
sometimes
referred
to
as
civil
identification
cards
or
just
state
identification
cards.
G
Regarding
the
process
of
individuals
receiving
an
identification
card,
many
states
choose
to
leave
the
time
frame
open
to
discretion,
providing
statements
such
as
provided
to
soon-to-be-released
individuals
or
simply
provided
before
release
those
that
have
time
periods
include
hawaii
and
north
carolina
in
hawaii
individuals
who
have
less
than
one
year
remaining
imprisoned,
are
assisted
and
in
north
carolina.
Individuals
within
six
months
of
release
are
assisted,
looking
outside
of
statutes
for
a
moment
for
timelines
states
range
widely.
For
example,
south
dakota
helps
inmates
within
120
days
from
their
release.
G
As
far
as
identification
card
application
fees
go,
states
vary
paying
the
application
fee
for
everyone
paying
the
fee
for
indigent
individuals
or
those
who
cannot
afford
it
or
merely
helping
with
the
application,
but
not
the
application
fee
at
all.
I
am
sorry
that
time
does
not
allow
me
to
discuss
the
nuances
amongst
the
states
in
more
detail.
However,
I
hope
this
gives
you
a
brief
overview
of
the
nation.
We
at
ncsl
are
available
to
provide
more
details
on
this
topic
moving
forward.
So
please
do
not
hesitate
to
reach
out
to
us
once
more.
A
H
Hansen
thanks,
madam
chair,
just
wanted
to
get
a
statement
on
the
record
real
quick.
You
know
it's
my
sixth
term
on
judiciary
and
five
of
those
terms.
We've
dealt
with
this
exact
issue,
so
we
thought
we
had
it
fixed
when
I
was
chair
in
2015,
and
here
we
are
again
so
I
want
to
first
of
all
congratulate
senator
buck
for
doing
a
really
a
first
class
presentation.
H
I
don't
think
this
is
a
partisan
issue
at
all.
We
are
now,
instead
of
attempting
to
bite
the
whole
apple
or
actually
taking
just
kind
of
a
tiny
bite
out
of
it
just
to
deal
with
ones
where
there's
no,
no
major
issues,
it
was
surprising
over
the
years
to
see
some
of
the
obstacles
that
the
department
of
corrections
ran
into
when
they
were
attempting
to
get
ids.
I
mean
I
don't
know
of
anybody.
H
So
I'm
all
for
the
bill
senator
buck,
and
I
met
with
the
department
of
motor
vehicles
head
julie,
butler,
a
woman
who
I've
worked
with
over
the
years
several
times
and
she's
an
outstanding
type
of
person,
a
get
it
done
kind
of
person,
and
she
assured
us
that
dmv
is
going
to
tackle
this
and
actually
has
been
working
pretty
aggressively
on
that
so
anyway,
I
just
wanted
to
to
do
a
little
shout
out.
Chair
scheible.
Thank
you.
H
I
know
this
is
a
bill
that
undoubtedly
will
be
near
and
dear
to
your
heart
as
well.
All
of
us
should
share
the
same
goal
here.
We
want
to
get
these
people
back
reintegrated
into
society,
and
the
idea
that
we
have
been
unable
to
assist
in
the
one
little
area
of
identification
is
just
kind
of
shocking.
So
maybe
this
is
the
big
time.
Thank
you,
chair
schreibel,.
I
Thank
you,
charles
scheibel,
I
was
gonna.
I
had
pretty
much
the
same
thing
to
say,
so
I
won't
repeat
what
senator
hanson
just
said,
but
certainly
since
I've
been
in
the
legislature,
we've
we've
addressed.
We've
had
this
bill
a
prisoner
id
bill
every
session.
I've
been
here
so,
but
this
question
is
really
for
judge
crawl.
I
I,
I
wonder,
judge
if,
if
because
one
of
the
things
that
we
heard
in
2000,
I
think
it
was
19
as
an
obstacle
to
these
ids
was
that
the
department
of
corrections
didn't
know
who
the
inmate
was.
There
were
some
questions
as
to
the
identity
of
the
inmate.
In
your
experience,
have
you
ever
indicted
or
I'm
sorry,
convicted
or
seen
convicted
someone
who
they,
they
didn't
convict
a
an
identified
person.
I
I
And
I'm
sorry,
I
didn't
mean
to
talk
over
you
there,
so
it's
fair
to
say
that
a
an
identified
person
who
has
been
identified
in
a
court
of
law
as
to
his
actual
identity
was
the
one
convicted
and
there's
no
mistake
about
who
that
individual,
that's
behind
bars
is
at
least
with
respect
to
the
state
of
nevada.
Is
that
accurate.
A
You're
up
just
for
a
second
and
ask
judge
crawl
to
clarify
how
many
criminal
cases
she's
presided
over.
C
I
am
a
civil
judge,
but
I
have
20
years
of
experience
of
legal
work
as
an
attorney
doing
civil
and
criminal
work.
So
I
I
have.
I
have
done
criminal
cases
and
criminal
trials
in
the
state
of
nevada,
but
verifying
the
identity
has
once
it's
gone
to
trial
and
someone's
been
convicted.
Their
identity
has
been
verified.
First.
I
No
problem-
and
I
think
that's
good-
to
get
on
the
record
so
judge
as
a
as
a
criminal
attorney.
I
don't
know
if
you
were
prosecution
or
defense,
but
you
handled
more
than
a
few
criminal
cases
correct.
C
I
If
we've
convicted
someone
without
knowing
who
they
are-
and
I
was
all
I
don't-
do
criminal
law
and
it
was
always
my
understanding
that
at
the
outset
of
the
case,
when
they're,
one
of
the
earliest
questions
that
will
be
asked
is
who
is
this
individual
sitting
in
the
defendant's
chair
and
there's?
Never
any
equivocation
as
to
who
we're
convicting.
I
All
right,
thank
you
and
mr
bevalaqua.
I
I
wonder
if
you
could
speak
a
little
bit
of
your
interaction
with
the
department
of
corrections
as
to
obtaining
identification
or
I'm
sorry
as
to
the
the
individuals
coming
out,
are
any
coming
out
with
a
government
id
that
they
can
use.
Are
we
talking
about
every
inmate
that
comes
out?
Are
we
talking
about
a
select
few?
What's
the?
F
F
Some
have
expired
nevada
id
and
not
very
many
there's
a
number
of
people
that
have
california
id
that
may
or
may
not
be
expired,
but
that
isn't
you're
not
allowed
to
work
in
nevada
with
california.
You
have
to
have
fbi
or
nevada,
have
a
nevada
id,
and
I
just
want
to
clarify
one
small
little
nudge
about
id.
F
So,
as
a
small
number
of
people
sneak
by
they're
arrested,
they
don't
have
id,
they
don't
have
fingerprints
on
the
system
and
they
do
go
to
prison
under
whatever
name
they
say,
but
those
people
would
not
be
getting
id
under
this
bill.
These
would
be
the
people
that
senator
buck
said
would
be
excluded
because
they're
not
in
the
system.
I
All
right
very
good-
and
I
I
don't
know
if
we
have
anybody
from
dmv
but
I'd,
be
interested
to
see
after
listening
to
senator
hansen,
talk
about
his
discussion
and
maybe
senator
buck.
You
know
the
answer
to
this.
I
A
E
I
Sure
I'm
just
one
of
the
things
that
came
up
in
my
conversations
in
the
past
was
about
the
cost
of
providing
these
identification
cards,
and
I'm
wondering
if
you
are
already
working
on
getting
these
id
cards.
This
isn't
an
additional
effort
for
dmv
and
I'll,
let
them
if
they're
on
the
line.
I
didn't
hear
that
they
were
present,
but
it
doesn't
look
to
me
like
this
is
an
additional
cost
to
dmv.
I
F
Well,
I
I
think
it's
pretty
self-evident
that
if
people
have
to
first,
the
state
has
to
spend
the
money
to
give
them
a
worthless
id
the
white
id
with
the
green
stripe,
and
then
they
have
to
go,
get
a
nevada
id.
This
would
be
a
cost
savings
measure,
because
we
eliminate
the
step
of
getting
this
id,
that
it
doesn't
really
serve
a
a
legal
purpose
for
being
able
to
work.
F
A
E
Senator
bus
for
the
record-
I
believe
they
are
on
here,
but
I
didn't
have
them
as
a
witness.
They
did
submit
a
conceptual
amendment
for
which
we
took
parts
of.
A
Okay,
so
hopefully
we'll
hear
from
them
in
testimony
whether
they're
in
support
or
neutral
or
somewhere
else
on
this
bill,
then
my
follow-up
question
is:
it
sounds
like
you're
suggesting
that
dmv
is
already
working
on
this
process.
So
what,
in
this
bill
removes
a
barrier
that
existed
to
dmv?
Why
can't
dmv
work
with
ndoc
and
get
inmates
ids
without
your
bill.
E
Senator
chair
scheible
senator
buck
for
the
record.
Well,
we've
been
waiting
since
2013
and
I
I
just
am
trying
to
have
faith
that
this
will
happen
without
this
bill,
but
unfortunately,
there's
been
a
kind
of
work
around.
So
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
put
this
into
a
policy
that
is
stated
and
very
clear
so
that
it
can
get
done.
A
Okay-
and
I
think
vice
chair
canazaro,
had
a
question
as
well:
go
ahead.
J
Thank
you,
chair
schreibel.
I
appreciate
the
indulgence
and
I
think
it's
fantastic
to
hear
so
much
support
for
making
sure
that
offenders
who
leave
prison
can
have
the
appropriate
resources
and
the
appropriate
connections
to
community
to
not
only
obtain
employment
but
to
also
function
in
society,
because
we
do
know
that
most
of
the
people
who
are
in
our
prison
system
do
eventually
come
out.
J
So
I'm
glad
to
see
that
we
see
some
additional
support
for
those
types
of
measures
for
allowing
them
to
have
prison,
reentry
programs
instituted
or
allowing
us
to
deal
with
things
like
the
bill
that
we
heard
from
senator
neil-
and
I
forget
the
bill
number
off
the
top
of
my
head.
That
would
allow
for
us
to
actually
give
them
not
only
some
employment
opportunities,
but
also
to
pay
them.
So
I'm
hopeful
we
can
have
a
lot
of
support
for
that.
J
As
well,
because
I
think
these
all
kind
of
fall
in
that
same
measure
now-
we
just
heard
testimony
that
this.
Actually,
this
bill
is
actually
a
cost
savings
to
the
state.
So
senator
I'm
wondering
how
you
figure
that
this
is
a
cost
savings
to
the
state
and
have
you
done
the
math
on
that
or
had
confirmation
from
ndoc
or
from
the
dmv
that
this
would
actually
be
a
cost
savings
because,
as
we
kind
of
see
it
it,
it
is
a
cost
to
the
state
to
actually
provide
those
ids.
E
Thank
you
senator
majority
leader
canazero
and
chair
scheibel,
so
this
bill
makes
clear
the
law
that
requires
the
doc
and
dmv
to
get
the
identification
to
prisoners
which
has
been
avoided
in
the
past
since
2013.
E
as
far
as
cost
savings.
If
you
look
at
entire
picture
of
inmates
having
recommitting
and
going
back
into
the
system-
yes
also,
they
they
get
a
voucher
and
and
get
you
a
free
id
voucher,
but
they
have
to
go
back
to
the
dmv
after
they're
released
so
that
they
do
get
a
voucher.
J
You
mentioned
a
voucher
program
and
we
obviously
don't
have
the
department
of
corrections
or
dmv
here
to
talk
about
what
those
programs
look
like,
but
your
understanding
is
that
they,
if
you
are
eligible
to
receive-
and
I
know
nrs
chapter
209-
511-
allows
for
the
director
to
develop
certain
parameters
for
getting
offenders
hooked
up
with
resources
to
obtain
driver's
licenses
and
ids.
They
get
this.
J
This
voucher,
I
would
assume,
allows
for
them
to
go
to
the
dmv
and
obtain
either
a
driver's
license
or
an
id.
E
Majority
leader
canazero,
chair
schaible,
so
I
didn't
testify
that
there
would
be
a
cost
savings
with
within
nevada
dmv,
but
with
the
nevada
department
of
corrections
because
they
wouldn't
be
giving
out
the
prison
id.
E
Instead,
they
would
be
helping
the
inmates
get
their
official
id
by
the
time
they
get
up.
So
there
will
more
than
likely
be
some
cost
to
that,
and
they
are
getting
that
together.
I
will
have
to
inform
the
committee.
I've
just
met
with
the
dmv
on
thursday,
and
so
we
and
we'd
have
three
other
meetings
before
this
to
try
and
come
to
a
consensus
on
who
they
could
help
with
this
bill,
and
so
once
we
have
those
numbers.
Currently,
there
are
about
500
people
per
month
coming
out
and
of
that
subset.
J
J
But
my
my
last
question
was
with
respect
to
the
voucher
that
you
just
mentioned,
that
voucher
is
given
to
individuals
who
ask
for
assistance
in
obtaining
another
copy
or
or
an
id
where
they
can
they're
able
to
go
to
the
dmv
and
get.
That.
Is
that
how
I
understand
this
voucher
program
that
you
just
mentioned.
F
Yes,
thank
you.
This
is
edward
bevel
aqua.
Thank
you.
So
I
think
there's
there's
three
things.
The
cost
savings
that
I
mentioned
was
instead
of
having
to
print
two
ids,
processing,
printing
and
tabulating,
and
recording
the
store
the
cost
for
two
ids.
There
would
only
be
one
id
which
was
the
id
they
needed
as
to.
J
I'm
sorry
I'm
just
going
to
interrupt
and
stop
right
there,
because
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
very
clear
about
this
individuals
who
ask
for
a
dmv
id
because
they
qualify
for
an
identification
card
or
a
driver's
license
that
would
be
issued
through
the
dmv
they
receive
a
voucher.
For
that.
Is
that
how
I
understand,
when
you
say
two
ids
you're
talking
about
the
voucher.
J
F
Yes,
the
other
id
I'm
referring
to
is
the
nevada
just
a
regular
nevada
id
which
eventually,
all
people
need
to
get.
So
that's
the
that's
the
fixed
plus
the
state
is
always
going
to
have
to
do.
The
extra
cost
is
to
produce
an
id,
the
white
id
that
has
a
green
strike
that
doesn't
have
much
value,
but
that's
not
the
real
cost
savings.
The
real
cost
savings
is
is
not
having
people
go
back
to
prison.
F
That's
the
twenty
thousand
dollar
set
cost
that
people
that
the
state
ends
up
having
to
pay,
because
somebody
couldn't
get
a
job
and
they
ended
up
calling,
etc.
I
think
that's
the
real
cost
savings,
not
the
10
or
15
or
whatever
it
is
to
produce
the
white
card.
For
you
know,
150
people
per
month.
You.
J
Just
need
some
clarity
yeah.
I
just
need
some
clarity
on
that,
because
when
we
have
testimony
about
this
being
a
cost
savings
when
we
have
a
bill
that
has
quite
a
this-
is
not
the
final
committee,
so
I
don't
want
to
kind
of
go
too
far
down
that
road
zero.
I
wasn't
done
talking.
I
just
wanted
some
clarity
on
that.
I
think
that's
part
of
the
question,
mr
bevelaqua,
that
miss
that
senator
buck
asked
for
you
to
kind
of
address.
J
F
J
F
Yes,
people
that
are
already
in
the
system
so
and
I
think
to
chair
scheible's
question:
what
is
the
what's?
Why
is
this
bill
needed?
F
I
think
the
fundamental
thing
is
this
bill
is
needed
to
correct
the
problems
that
senator
hansen
and
that
picture
mentioned
with
the
past
ones,
that
the
past
bills
were
not
able
to
produce
provide
id
for
people
coming
out
of
prison
because
it
was
a
global
approach
attempt
to
solve
the
problem
for
everybody,
whereas
this
bill
is
a
very
limited
approach
that
only
attempts
to
solve
the
problem
for
people
who
are
already
in
the
system
and
that's
why
it's
needed
is
to
correct
a
bill
that
does
not
work
or
not
a
bill.
J
Right
so
this
would
not
apply,
and
I
think
this
gets
to
the
other
piece
of
what
we've
been
discussing
here
is
that
there
are
individuals
who
are
in
prison,
but
don't
have
things
like
a
formal
birth
certificate
that
has
been
notarized
and
another
form
of
id
or
a
or
evidence
of
where
they
actually
reside
or
the
types
of
documents
that
are
now
required
for
even
to
get
an
identification
part
since
we're
looking
at
real
id
standards
that
individuals
who
are
in
prison
while
we
know
who
they
are
sometimes
do
not
possess
these
official
documents
and
get
copies
of
those
in
order
to
obtain
identification.
F
Edward
aqua
for
the
record-
yes,
that
is
correct-
this
is
just
limited.
This
was
as
senator
buck
said.
This
is
a
crawl
walker
on
approach.
Let's
just
get
the
low
hanging
fruit,
so
those
people
can
work
and
they
are
identified
while
they're
in
prison.
So
this
would
be
the
simple
process
that
you
or
I
could
go
online
right
now
if
we
had
a
computer
and
renew
our
license
without
having
to
take
a
picture.
So
this
is
just
trying
to
conform.
J
Because
I
think
we
needed
some
clarification
because
there
was
a
conversation
about
whether
folks
are
identified
or
not,
and
I
don't
think
that
is
not
the
issue.
The
issue
is
whether
or
not
you
possess
the
requisite
official
documents
to
meet
the
standards
with
the
dmv
for
things
like
a
real
id
in
order
to
obtain
that
state-issued
driver's
license
identification,
court,
etc.
J
I
appreciate
you
clarifying
that
the
other
piece
that
I
had
a
question
on
and
I
think
chair
schreiber
was
trying
to
answer
this,
and
I
don't
know
that
we
got
a
very
clear
answer.
There
have
been
references
to
a
program
or
programs
that
ndoc
and
the
dmv
have
been
trying
to
set
up
in
order
to
get
folks
driver's
licenses
and
identification
cards.
So
what
is
that
program?
J
Who
is
it
targeting?
How
does
that
program
work
that
they
are
currently
currently
putting
together?.
E
Majority
leader
ken
zero
chair
scheible,
we
do
have
sean
seaver
on
the
phone.
If
I
could
defer
to
him,
he
is
from
the
dmv.
A
Go
yes,
and
I
I'm
not
sure
if
that
was
clear
about
the
phone
versus
the
zoom.
We
did
go
ahead
and
reach
out
to
mr
seaver
during
this
presentation
to
see
if
he
wanted
to
join
us,
and
he
has
graciously
agreed
to
hop
on
into
our
presentation
to
answer
some
of
these
questions.
So
actually
I'd
like
you
to
go
ahead
and
address
vice
chair,
canazaro's
question
first
and
then
we
can
go
backwards.
I
have
a
few
for
you
as
well.
K
L
You
bet
thank
you,
chair
jude,
heron,
deputy
director
nevada
department
of
war
vehicles.
If
I
may
try
to
do
this
in
one
fell
swoop
kind
of
answer
all
these
questions,
I
appreciate
senator
buck
and
senator
hansen
reaching
out
to
us.
L
So
we
had
a
great
conversation
last
week,
one
of
the
things
that
we
expressed
with
them
back
in
february
2020,
we
met
with
nevada
department
corrections
and
other
representatives
from
the
city
and
county
jail
systems
to
tackle
this
issue
that
has
been
long
standing
from
that
we
created
a
subcommittee
that
was
actually
geared
to
the
same
outcome
as
senator
buck's
great
bill
that
she
has
submitted
in
actuality.
L
The
first
phase
that
we
were
working
on
internally
prior
to
covet
hitting
was
actually
dealing
with
the
same
process
of
dealing
with
the
nevada
department
of
corrections,
inmate
release
unit
and
working
with
them
to
create
a
system
behind
the
scenes
so
that
we
can
issue
duplicates,
expired
credentials
or
identification
cards
for
those
that
were
suspended
or
revoked.
L
These
were
standard
driver's
license
cards.
They
are
not
real
id
credentials
at
this
point
in
time.
We
wanted
to
get
them
an
actual
nevada
credential.
Rather
than
a
nevada
department
of
corrections,
identification
card
meeting
with
senator
buck
and
senator
hansen,
we
provided
some
history
of
that.
Our
goal
right
now
in
working
with
both
senators
and
we'll
be
reaching
out
to
department
of
corrections
to
reinstate
our
subcommittee
to
to
continue
to
begin
this
process
behind
the
scenes.
L
We
are
looking
at
this
behind
the
scenes
process
of
creating
these
credentials
for
nevada
residents
that
are
inmates
being
released.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
allocating
a
whole
bunch
of
I.t
resources
into
this.
We
want
to
create
a
system
that
is,
is
in
part,
electronic
and
part
manual.
The
reason
why
I
say
that
is
because
we
are
going
to
be
dividing
and
conquering
a
lot
of
our
resources
for
this
transformation
project
that
will
take
place
over
the
next
four
years
to
transform
our
system
in
its
entirety.
L
So,
but
we
are
very
confident
with
this
amendment
that
we
in
fact
will
be
reaching
out
to
private
corrections
this
week
to
start
revisiting
these.
This
process
that
we
started
and
in
fact
in
march
of
2020,
is
when
we
sent
our
internal
proposal
back
to
the
nevada
department
of
corrections
based
on
duplicates
and
expired
licenses
and
so
forth
so
and
then
covet
hit.
And
I
don't
need
to
tell
you
any
more
about
that.
Everybody
was
dealing
with
that.
So
we're
back
on
track.
L
L
A
A
And
are
there
any
more
questions
from
members
of
the
committee?
Thank
you
church.
B
Thank
you
chair.
I
appreciate
it.
One
of
the
things
that
I
see
that's
beneficial
with
this
bill
is
that
in
the
previous
renditions
and
the
stuff
that
we
have
on
stature
at
this
point
in
time,
we
were
trying
to
provide
information
that
was
impossible
to
find,
as
the
majority
leader
indicated
in
the
past
is
very
problematic,
and
if
someone
didn't
come
from
state
of
nevada,
they
came
from
different
states
and
somehow,
within
our
system,
trying
to
find
their
birth
certificate,
social
security
numbers
and
things
that
nature
was
well
basically
impossible.
B
So
I
appreciate
the
bill
narrowing
it
down,
so
we
can
actually
quit
doing
stuff
that
we
well
literally
couldn't
do
with
that.
I
just
want
to
get
clarified
on
the
record.
You
know,
because
I'm
very
grateful
to
have
the
dmv
on
the
line
to
do
that.
That
again,
this
is
just
basically
going
to
help
out
also
because
now
it'll
go
after
the
id
cards
which
are
easier
for
us
and
not
a
real
id
card.
B
Because
again,
the
concept
of
real
id
cards
is
a
whole
nother
set
of
hoops
that
have
to
be
jumped
through
and
becomes
much
more
expensive
to
try
to
do.
But
this
seems
like
a
very
reasonable
concept
of
a
id
card
that
allows
them
to
without
having
as
much
stigmatism
versus
the
previous
cards,
and
I
just
wanted
to
get
that
on
the
record
from
the
dmv.
If
possible,
chair.
L
Chair
scheible,
this
is
judy
aaron
deputy
director
of
dmv.
Thank
you
senator
selmaro.
You
can
just
speak.
L
Yeah,
my
apologies
chair
scheible.
Thank
you.
This
is
jude
heron
deputy
director
of
dmv.
Thank
you
senator
selmeyer
for
the
question.
Yes
to
answer
your
question,
this
is,
it
is
just
for
our
standard
driver's
license
or
id
cards
depending
on
their
status,
and
it
is
not
for
a
real
id
at
this
time.
L
Our
belief
is
is
to
get
them
this
credential,
so
that
when
they're
released
and
eventually
can
obtain
employment
and
so
forth,
if
there's
any
issues
with
their
credential,
let's
say
they're
suspended
or
revoked
they
they
received
an
id
card,
they
can
actually
still
obtain.
You
know
employment
and
a
bank
account
and
so
forth,
go
forward
with
that
and
then
at
some
point
in
time
deal
with
reinstating
their
driver's
license
in
regards
to
the
real
id.
You
are
correct.
L
There
are
other
federal
requirements
that
are
involved,
but
in
that
process,
in
that
same
time,
we're
frame
that
person
can
work
with
in
getting
various
documents
to
obtain
that
real
id
in
the
future.
Our
goal
is
just
to
get
them
a
credential
before
they're
released,
so
that
they
can
start
to
process
out
right.
L
The
other
side
to
this
is
too
is
that,
with
this
interim
approach
that
we're
working
with
senator
buck
on,
it
also
allows
us
to
set
us
up
for
a
future
transformation
to
where
we
could
actually
really
deal
with
some
of
the
other
complexities
in
the
inmate
system,
where
you
may
have
a
non-resident
someone
from
another
state
or
maybe
even
another
country,
and
we
can
possibly
deal
with
those
with
better
technology
and
with
some
federal
laws
that
have
been
passed
already
to
help
with
driver's
license
programs
throughout
the
nation.
B
Thank
you
for
that,
madam
chair,
if
I
could
follow
up
also,
I
think
within
I
hope
within
the
amendment
is
a
concept.
Maybe
we
delay
a
little
bit
of
the
implementation
date
as
we've
all
discussed,
it'd
be
a
little
bit
simpler
for
you
to
do
with
a
new
system,
because
we
all
know
that
cobalt
needs
to
be
gone
and
that
we
need
to
get
you
guys
updated.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
was
in
the
amendment.
L
Yes,
senator
to
the
through
the
chair,
this
is
jude
heren,
deputy
director
dmv,
yes,
senator
buck
did
take
that
consideration.
I
we
greatly
appreciate
that
that
helps
us
to
work
through
the
regulatory
process,
work
with
endoc
and
build
a
good
system
that
is
kind
of
a
mixture
of
electronics
and
manual
approaches.
So
it
sets
us
up,
so
we
don't
have
to
throw
away
a
lot
of
code
and
put
it
into
a
new
system
so
when
we
transform
into
our
new
system.
B
Appreciate
that,
thank
you
jude.
Thank
you,
sean
also.
You
know
it
was
interesting.
I
was
just
there
the
other
day
at
8
30
in
the
morning
and
interesting.
There
wasn't
even
a
line
they.
Finally,
you
know
you
guys
are
doing
a
remarkable
job
trying
to
deal
with
the
backlog,
and
thanks
for
doing
that,
and
thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you
chair
for
the
questions.
A
All
right,
if
there
are
no
other
questions
and
I'm
not
seeing
anybody
piping
up
with
any
questions,
then
we
will
move
on
to
testimony.
I
will
kick
it
over
to
our
fantastic
staff
at
broadcast
to
take
testimony
in
support
of
sb-136.
D
D
Caller
with
the
last
three
digits
725,
please
slowly
state
and
spell
your
name
for
the
record.
You
will
have
two
minutes
to
speak
and
you
may
be
thank
you,
chair
scheible
and
committee
members.
This
is
nick
schipec
n-I-c-k-s-h-e-p-a-c-k,
with
the
aclu
of
nevada.
We
are
in
support
of
senator
buck's
bill
with
a
conceptual
amendment.
Anyone
who
is
known
to
the
dmv
should
leave
prison
with
a
state-issued
id
that
should
be
the
law.
That
should
not
be
a
debate.
D
Our
only
concern
with
the
bill
as
originally
written
was
that
it
seemed
to
create
a
gap
for
incarcerated
people
whose
identity
could
not
be
verified.
The
absurdity
of
the
fact
that
we
have
people
incarcerated
in
the
state,
but
don't
know
exactly
who
they
are,
is
a
discussion
for
another
time.
The
fact
is,
those
people
exist.
D
There
are
people
in
ndoc
who
we
cannot
identify
and
the
current
prison
id
program
as
designed
and
brought
before
this
body
by
former
director
zoranda
helps
to
ensure
that
those
whose
identity
cannot
be
verified
to
the
level
required
by
the
dmv
leave
with
an
id
that
they
can
use
to
at
least
get
a
hotel
room
or
prescription
medication.
We
can't
afford
to
lose
that
safeguard.
I
deeply
wish
senator
pickard's
hope
that
we
knew
everyone
in
our
prison
system
was
correct.
However,
we
do
have
incarcerated
people
whose
identity
the
state
is
unable
to
verify.
D
They
were
arrested
without
certain
information
and
are
unable
to
get
an
id
from
the
dmv.
We
strongly
agree
with
this
with
senator
buck
that
those
who
can
get
a
dmv
issued
state
id
or
driver's
license
should
have
one
upon
release.
Navigating
the
dmv
can
be
challenging
for
the
best
of
us
and
with
coveted
backlogs.
It's
an
extremely
daunting
task.
By
ensuring
more
people
are
released
from
prison
with
proper
id,
we
will
ensure
higher
success
rates
for
the
formerly
incarcerated
and
lower
recidivism
wage
throughout
the
state.
This
will
save
us
money.
D
D
M
M
We
agree
with
the
statements
made
by
the
aclu
regarding
our
initial
concern
of
a
potential
loophole,
but
believe
that
the
conceptual
amendment
will
resolve
that
issue.
Housing
and
employment
are
two
important
components
of
a
successful
re-entry.
There
are
two
things
that
are
virtually
impossible
to
obtain
without
an
identification.
D
D
D
A
All
right,
then,
we'll
move
the
testimony
in
neutral.
Mr
siever,
did
you
want
to
give
some
general
testimony
in
the
neutral
position.
K
Yes,
thank
you,
chair
sean
sever
from
the
dmv
and
we
originally
were.
We
were
on
the
phone
actually
to
testify
neutral
and
we
couldn't
mute
ourselves.
So
I
apologize
for
that,
but
thank
you
for
letting
us
zoom
in
on
it.
We
are
neutral
on
this
bill.
K
We
had
some
concerns
on
the
original
bill
and
we
are
grateful.
The
bill
sponsor
worked
with
us
on
submitting
an
amendment
to
it.
We
we
totally
agree
a
solution
is
needed,
but
we
want
to
work
through
the
solution
through
the
regulatory
process
which
the
amendment
indicates.
So
thank
you.
I
also
wanted
to
note
that
we
did
submit
a
fiscal
note
on
the
original
bill,
but
we
can
take
another
look
at
that
with
the
amendment
and
adjust
that
accordingly.
A
D
M
V-I-C-T-O-R-I-A-G-O-N-Z-A-L-E-Z
and
I'm
the
executive
director
of
the
nevada
department
of
senate
and
policy
and
our
agency
is
in
the
neutral
position
of
this
bill.
Our
department
assist
the
nevada
sentencing
commission.
One
way
we
assist
the
commission
is
in
its
oversight
of
justice
reinvestment
in
nevada.
Our
agency
does
this
by
collecting
data
and
assessing
savings
and
costs
from
all
areas
of
the
criminal
justice
system,
including
those
related
to
reentry
and
recidivism.
M
There's
discussion
today
about
identifying
such
costs
and
savings
related
to
recidivism
and
re-entry,
and
our
department
will
do
what
we
can
to
assist
in
this.
We
look
forward
to
working
with
dmv
and
ndoc
in
collecting
data
and
tracking
things
and
costs
related
to
re-entry
and
recidivism,
resulting
from
its
enactment.
We
believe
this
data
will
assist
the
sensing
commission,
the
legislature
and
the
public
in
assessing
the
outcomes
of
this
legislation.
Thank
you.
D
M
M
The
division
is
neutral
on
the
overall
provisions
of
the
bill.
We
do
agree
with
senator
buff's
position
that
the
allowing
eligible
inmates,
the
opportunity
to
obtain
a
valid
id
prior
to
release
would
be
greatly
beneficial
to
our
parolees
and
to
our
mission
at
pmp,
and
with
that
I'll
offer
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have.