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A
Thank
you
so
much.
I
will
call
this
meeting
of
the
senate
natural
resources
committee
to
order
on
march
30th
of
2021..
Will
the
esteemed
secretary
please
take
the
role.
A
Sheridante
is
presenting
in
another
committee,
but
he
will
be
here
as
soon
as
he
is
available,
and
I
will
ask
you
to
mark
him
present
at
that
time,
at
which
point
I
will
also
hand
over
the
proverbial
gavel,
because
chair
donate
is
presenting
elsewhere.
We
will
not
start
with
our
work
session
today,
however,
we
will
probably
interrupt
our
other
scheduled
programming
to
do
that
work
session
when
we
have
everybody
here.
A
In
the
meantime,
it
is
my
pleasure
to
sit
as
chair
of
the
committee
for
now,
as
we
are
joined
by
numerous
special
guests
to
present
sjr10,
and
I
will
turn
it
over
now
to
senator
orenshall
and
open
up
the
hearing
on
sjr10
to
introduce
us
to
our
guests
and
our
some
familiar
faces
here
and
to
present
sjr10.
E
Thank
you
very
much.
Vice
chair
schaible,
chair
donate
and
members
of
the
senate
natural
resources
committee
for
the
record
james
orenshaw.
I
represent
state
senate
district
21,
that's
parts
of
henderson
and
unincorporated
clark
county,
I'm
very
lucky
to
have
some
some
wonderful
principal
presenters
today
with
me.
So
I'll,
be
very
brief.
There's
a
painting
behind
me
painted
by
cliff
sagerbloom
father
of
our
former
state,
senator,
commit
and
now
county
commissioner
sagerbloom.
That
painting
is
frenchman,
mountain
rainbow
gardens
a
lot
of
the
area,
that's
discussed
in
center
joint
resolution
10..
E
That
is
an
area
that
I
believe,
is
a
treasure
in
southern
nevada
and
has
great
potential
but
needs
more
attention
in
terms
of
the
protection
it
gets
from.
The
federal
government
with
that
vice
chair
and
with
your
permission,
commissioner
sagerbloom,
is
on
a
very
tight
deadline.
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
to
commissioner
sagerboom
and
then,
with
your
permission,
helen
mortensen
and
dr
steve
roland,
who
are
here
to
help
me
co-present
and,
and
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions.
If
the
committee
has
any
thank
you
vice
chair,
scheible,.
F
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
senator
orange
hall,
and
everyone
else
I'll
be
very
brief.
But
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
this
area,
which
we
call
the
great
unconformity,
is
unprotected
at
this
point
and
if
you're,
if
you're
in
las
vegas,
where
you
are,
and
in
fact
you're
from
the
part
where
I'm
going
to
complain
a
little
while,
but
in
western
las
vegas,
they
have
red
rocks,
they
have
all
kinds
of
stuff.
F
F
So
it's
a
very
exciting
place
and
that's
what
we
want
in
east
las
vegas.
We
want
to
have
our
own
state
park
or
some
type
of
protection
where
we
can.
Our
residents
can
go
and
not
have
to
drive
all
the
way
across
the
valley.
In
fact,
some
people
from
summerlin
may
want
to
come
over
there
too.
So
it's
a
very
special
place,
but
thank
you
so
much
senator
orange
all
for
bringing
this
to
to
the
legislature.
I
just
want
to
point
out
helen
morton
who's.
F
One
of
the
speakers,
the
most
knowledgeable
about
this
area,
her
husband
harry,
was
a
assemblyman
when
I
first
got
into
the
legislature
and
he
and
I
worked
very
closely-
and
james
too,
worked
very
closely
together
back
then
he
was
what
we
call
the
conscience
of
the
assembly.
He
always
did
what
was
right
and
was
just
so
honorable
and
so
ethical.
It
was
just.
He
was
a
just
a
tremendous
tremendous
man,
so
so
helen.
Thank
you
so
much
for
having
me.
Thank
you
senator
how
much
and
it's
okay
I'll
leave.
A
Well,
we
hate
to
see
you
go,
but
it
was
a
pleasure
to
have
you
with
us.
Commissioner
segerblom
thank
you
and
we
hope
to
see
you
again.
E
I
you
know
either
whoever
would
like
to
go
next
either
helen
mortensen
or
dr
steve
roland
helen
has
been
a
friend
of
mine
for
more
than
two
decades.
I
got
to
know
her
and
her
husband,
former
assemblyman
harry
mortensen,
when,
when
he
first
got
elected
to
the
legislature
and
helen
and
her
late
husband,
former
assembly
mortensen
worked
very
hard
to
preserve
much
of
the
the
treasures
we've
got
in
ice
age.
E
Fossil
park
up
in
the
northwest
area
and
dr
roland
is
emeritus
professor
of
geology
at
the
university
of
nevada,
las
vegas
and
has
just
a
tremendous
knowledge
of
the
area.
Frenchman,
mountain
sunrise,
mountain
rainbow
gardens
and
has
been
working
on
the
goal
he
and
mrs
mortensen
of
trying
to
preserve
this
treasure
down
in
southern
nevada.
Whoever
would
like
to
begin.
G
Steve
and
I've
been
looking
forward
to
this
for
many
many
years
and
so
we're
hoping
we're
really
heading
for
the
finish
line
on
this
one.
So
I
defer
to
dr
steve
rowland.
H
Thank
you
helen,
so,
and
and
thank
you
to
to
senator
orrin
shaw
for
for
submitting
this
this
legislation-
I
I
I
could
not
be
more
pleased.
This
is
an
area
that,
as
helen
just
said,
she
and
I
and
and
some
of
our
colleagues
in
the
citizens
for
active
management,
citiz
grassroots
501c3
group
we've
been
working
intermittently
with
blm
on
management
issues,
especially
on
the
east
side
of
the
valley
for
over
25
years,
and
so
it's
it's
reassuring
or
optimistic,
at
least
that
that
finally,
we're
going
to
see
something
happen.
H
So
I'll.
Just
I've
been
a
geology
professor
at
unlv
since
1978
I
retired
a
couple
years
ago,
but
I'm
still
very
active.
I
still
have
graduate
students
and
I'm
still
actively
doing
research
right
now,
and
I
can
tell
you
that
this
area,
which
is
a
very
neglected
parcel
of
public
lands,
is
literally
one
of
the
real
jewels
of
geology
in
north
america
and-
and
that
sounds
like
a
like
an
exaggeration.
H
But
it
really
is
not
there's
nowhere
else
on
earth
that
you
that
there's
so
much
geology
exposed
so
excessively
that
it's
twice
as
much
geology
as
the
grand
canyon.
Literally.
So
I
I
won't
go
through
all
the
all
the
details,
but
it's
just
a
phenomenal
geologic
site
that
people
from
all
over
the
world
come
not
only
to
the
great
unconformity,
which
is
very
very
special.
H
The
great
unconformity
is
at
the
at
the
west
base
of
frenchman,
mountain
where
1.7
billion-year-old
rocks
are
are
in
contact
with
500
million
year
old
rocks
and
it's
a
wonderful
place
to
talk
to
to
everybody
from
school
age,
kids
up
to
graduate
students
about
geologic
time
and
and
earth
history.
So
the
great
unconformity
is
a
real
real
jewel.
But
that's
only
one
aspect
of
the
geology
of
french
from
mountain.
H
The
whole
history
of
life
on
earth
is
recorded
in
the
rocks
in
french
for
mountain
on
the
on
the
east
side
is
rainbow
gardens,
which
I
thought
I
I
was
under
the
impression
I
would
be
able
to
show
some
images
and
I
sent
those
images
to
to
senator
orenshall's
legislative
assistant
thinking
that
they
would
be
shown
for
me,
but
I
don't
have
them
available
to
show
which,
which
is
unfortunate,
because
I
could
show
you
some
really
spectacular
images,
aerial
shots
of
rainbow
gardens
and
and
cross
sections
of
french
red
mountain.
H
So
suffice
it
to
say
that
there's
real
opportunities
there
to
develop
outdoor
recreation
and
outdoor
education,
there's
trails
of
all
level
of
of
strenuousness
from
a
steep
trail
going
to
the
top
of
frenchman
mountain
to
very
gentle
trails
around
the
rainbow
gardens
area.
Very,
very
scenic:
none
of
those
trails
are
are
specified
with
trail
heads,
there's
no
covered
picnic
areas,
there's
potential
for
for
equestrian
trails
and
hiking
trails
and
outdoor
geology.
None
of
that
has
been
developed.
It's
really
a
very
neglected
aspect
of
southern
nevada,
public
lands.
H
It's
all
blm
land,
so
there's
no
land
issues,
it's
not
there's
no
public,
there's
no
private
land
that
that
would
have
to
be
bought
or
or
negotiated
for
so
it's
it's
a
real
gem
that
that
has
been
neglected,
helen
and
I
and
our
colleagues
and
the
citizens
for
active
management
developed
an
interpretive
site,
a
geological
interpretive
site
at
the
great
unconformity
back
in
the
90s
26
years
ago
we
had
a
dedication
of
a
beautiful
plaque
that
I
was
going
to
show
you
an
image
of,
but
I'm
unable
to
do
that.
H
Senator
harry
reid,
secretary
of
interior,
bruce
babbitt
was
there
when
we,
when
we
dedicated
that
plaque
it
was.
It
was
a
glorious
day,
two
or
three
years
later
it
was
completely
vandalized
to
the
point
that
the
blm
had
to
remove
it.
Vandalism
is
just
rampant
out
there
and
the
problem
is
that
blm
does
not
have
the
law
enforcement
to
protect
it.
It's
an
area
that
that
really
deserves
high
level
protection,
but
blm
is
just
unable
to
do
it.
Metro
can't
do
it.
H
So
our
solution
with
with
senator
orrinshaw,
is
to
create
a
special
national
conservation
area
or
or
or
national,
some
sort
of
national
recreation
area,
national
conservation
area
to
so
that
it
has
its
own
management
staff
and
and
law
enforcement,
and
it
can
be
properly
protected.
People
go
out
there
and
and
throw
bottles,
and
so
there's
broken
glass
all
over
the
place.
Outdoor
outdoor
nevada
and
cam
have
done
cleanups,
which
has
been
great,
but
but
we
just
can't
do
it.
H
We
just
can't
keep
up
with
the
with
the
graffiti
with
the
vandalism
with
the
broken
glass,
so
it
really
needs
a
higher
level
of
protection,
and
so
I'm
very
grateful
for
senator
orrinshaw
for
submitting
this.
This
proposed
legislation
and
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
my
friend
and
colleague,
helen.
G
G
G
You
can
see
part
of
it
down
in
the
grand
canyon
that
to
get
to
the
grand
canyon
and
get
to
that
spot
is
really
unaborted
as
portable
here
you've
got
a
roadside
turn
off
here
we
used
to
have
the
school
buses
actually
stop
and
go
over
and
touch
the
great
unconformity,
the
line
between
those
one
1.7
billion
years
and
five
billion
years,
and
it
separates
the
the
the
ages
and,
as
you
go
westward
upward
on
the
mountain,
you
see
the
the
oh
hand
me
that
for
a
second
yeah
yeah,
oh
this
one
right
here
all
right!
G
This
is
why
one
shoe
you
can
see
the
ages
of
the
animals
and
everything
on
this
all
the
way
up
from
pre-cambrian
all
the
way
up.
That
way,
so
it's
just
amazing
amazing,
on
what
we
have
here,
a
world-class
feature
and
it's
something
that
steve
rowland
has
worked
so
hard
to
promote
and
open
up
to
everybody.
But
any
well-known
geologist
knows
of
this
location
and
the
fact
that
it's
right
here
on
the
edge
of
our
valley
is
tremendously
important
and
the
fact
that
the
people
don't
recognize
it.
It's
not
protected.
G
It
needs
to
have
federal
protection.
I
would
suggest
that
the
park
service
come
in,
they
have
the
going
up
to
lake
mead,
you
have
to
go,
and
the
park
service
is
the
closest
people
to
this
area.
G
G
The
north
side,
with
the
new
thule
springs
park
service,
the
I
say,
the
fossil
site
out
there
on
the
west
side.
Excuse
me
on
the
east
side,
where
the
frenchman's
mountain,
the
sunrise,
mountain
and
so
forth.
This
occurs.
There's
no
protection
at
all.
People
go
up
there
and
throw
up
trash.
G
We
had
a
clean
up
from
the
from
the
outside
las
vegas,
sponsored
by
rei
the
day
after
thanksgiving
in
2020
we
had
a
hundred
people
show
up
rei,
paid
them
a
grant
to
work
on
friday,
their
day
off
to
service
this
community.
We
had
over
a
hundred
people
from
colorado,
arizona
and
everywhere
to
clean
up
tons
and
tons
and
tons
of
mass
out
there,
and
it's
constantly
keeping
stephen
and
I
have
established
adopt
the
highway.
We
try
to
keep
it.
You
know
up
that
way.
G
So,
with
the
department
of
transportation,
we've
done
an
awful
lot
and
we
were
recognized
to
the
schools
and
everything
take
pride
in
america
back
about
10
years
ago,
when
we
went
back
to
washington
dc
and
tom
hickey
and
all
of
us
are
very
instrumental
in
starting
this
whole
nonprofit
organization
back
in
1990
and
we've
been
working
ever
since
the
great
unconformity
is
the
biggest
feature
that
really
needs
to
be
saved,
but
you've
got
the
rainbow
gardens.
You've
got
other
features
in
this
area.
G
This
is
a
place
where
people
can
go
and
and
enjoy,
but
also
observe
something
very
unique.
That's
not
found
anywhere
else
in
the
world,
and
I
think
I
really
this.
This
is
just
absolutely
so
fantastic
this.
This
build
that
you
put
in
jane
the
sjr10.
G
It's
a
really
a
leg
up
and
steve,
and
I
are
so
appreciative
of
that
steve
has
wrote
management
plans
for
this
area
and
so
forth.
He
is
our
key
person.
He
is
our
president.
He
is
our
spokesman,
but
this
area
needs
to
be
saved.
One
last
thing:
national
geographic
came
out
with
the
adventure
magazine.
It
was
one
of
their
last
issues.
G
September
2007,
live
and
play
now
guess
what
50
states
were
chosen
to
to
get
their
top
recreational
values
and
everything
on
it
out
of
nevada,
las
vegas
nevada,
our
own
area
right
here
not
only
got
the
top
location
in
nevada,
but
also
got
the
first
in
the
nation,
and
that
was
because,
let
me
turn
through
the
page.
Real
quick
here
come
on,
come
on
I'll,
go
ahead
and
mark
real
quick
here
anyway.
What
it
is
is
sorry
about
that,
get
it
right
here.
I
had
it
slip
a
paper
in
there.
G
I
don't
already
give
me
a
hand
here
hold
on
yeah
there
we
go
okay
in
the
magazine,
it's
called
the
vegas
draw
and
it
shows
why
we
are
the
top
one
in
the
nation.
G
This
creates
oh
here's,
the
page.
I
want
to
show
you
on
this
map.
You've
got
a
circle
there
within
200
plus
miles
from
our
airport
in
las
vegas.
You
have
got
zion
death
valley,
grand
canyon,
the
all
kinds
of
national
monuments
and
places.
This
is
the
place
to
start.
We
also
have
the
infrastructure
to
support
that
with
all
our
hotels
and
everything
we
can
support
people
to
come
in,
spend
the
night
at
one
of
the
hotels,
do
a
little
gaming
whatever
and
then
go
out
and
explore
the
next
morning
to
all
these
wonderful
places.
G
G
This
is
why
it's
so
important
to
recognize
this
one
unique
place
that
we
got
on
the
east
side
of
the
valley,
who
has
not
had
the
proper
attention
or
recognition
or
support,
but
it
adds
to
this
whole
bunch
of
other
people
here.
So
it's
really
important
for
this,
and
the
steve
really
has
all
the
particulars
about
the
great
unconformity
and
everything
and
he's
we
give
lectures
out
there
and
so
forth,
but
the
panamics
helped,
and
so
we
have
deeply
appreciated
james
orenshaw.
G
For
taking
this
up.
And
when
I
talk
about
gypsum
cave,
that's
part
of
this
44
000
acre
piece
of
land.
G
It
is
very
significant
in
the
fact
that
it,
as
I
explained
to
the
audience
before
before
this
testimony,
that
in
gypsum
cave,
which
was
excavated
by
mark
harrington
in
1930,
they
found
painted
adult
adult,
darts,
indian
artifacts
and
guess
what
nellis
air
force
base
with
dri
had
an
expedition
to
go
out
with
andrew
barton
out
to
out
to
open
your
name.
Is
it
please?
G
It's
a
place
out
in
on
air
force
land
and
they
found
painted
as
about
65
miles,
north
of
and
and
west
of
the
state
of
the
gypsum
cave,
and
they
pike
water
cave.
That's
where
it's
called
sorry
anyway.
They
found
exactly
the
same
type
of
adult
darts,
with
the
paints
on
them
and
and
the
same
pattern
on
them.
G
So
that's
the
archaeology
evidence
that
shows
there
is
archaeology
out
there
to
support
the
new
thule
strings
thing
and
the
ice
age,
animals
that
are
in
the
cave,
the
sloth,
the
a
camel
and
the
horse
and
the
camel
and
horse
were
developed
here
you
know.
So
this
is
a
huge
part
of
this
44
000
acres.
The
native
americans
will
worship
that
case
they
have
what
they
call
the
salt
song
native
americans
from
four
states
from
utah,
california,
arizona
and
nevada.
G
All
come
up
here
to
do
their
rituals
in
the
cave,
gypsum
cave
it's
a
huge
cave
with
four
rooms
in
it.
Erin
did
a
marvelous
job
of
excavating.
It
back
in
1930.,
documented
it
all
at
the
southwest
museum
took
all
the
artifacts
to
the
outskirts
southwest
museum,
because
we
didn't
have
anything
that
could
take
care
of
it
here.
In
nevada
and
andrew
barton
from
desert
research
center.
G
I
asked
colleen
beck
the
director
if
I
could
sponsor
her
trip
down
to
southwest
museum,
and
so
she
yeah
about
five
hundred
dollars,
stephen
for
taking
her
down
and
housing
her
for
three
three
days
I
was
to
go
with
her.
We
talked
to
the
braun
library,
tim
walkers
handed
us
all
these
pictures
and
reports
and
everything
we
talked
to
george
and
offered
the
curation.
G
We
got
pictures
of
all
the
artifacts
from
gypsum
cave.
We
brought
that
all
home
and
when
clm
decided
to
have
another
power
line
to
go
through
near
gypsum
cave
through
the
that
area,
we
are
handed
to
amy
guillery's
a
far
western.
She
was
doing
the
mitigations
at
gypsum
k.
She
went
down
with
that
information.
We
gave
her
to
southwest
museum
southwest
museum,
allowed
her
to
take
the
artifacts
and
information
up
to
davis
university,
and
then
amy
took
him
over
to
the
eugene
atari
head
of
anthropology.
G
G
The
there
were
found
three
fruits
three
indian
made
fruits
in
there
in
the
cave
also,
so
we
were
just
playing
with
all
kinds
of
ideas,
but
gypsum
cave
belongs
attached
to
the
thule
springs
new
national
monument
or
attached
to
this,
and
I
think
the
native
americans
would
have
a
lovely
thing
to
say.
I'm
way
over
my
time,
I'm
sorry,
but
I
anyway,
we
appreciate
it
but
defer
to
steve
he's
the
one
that
really
the
biggest
thing
is
that
great
unconformity,
it's
very
unique.
G
It
is
very
of
a
world-class
thing
and
we
should
recognize
it
and,
as
we
adventure
our
whole
way
through
the
state,
we
find
that
we
have
many
unique
features
and
we
definitely
want
them
to
stay
and
have
people
come
and
visit
them,
and
we
already
do
but
we'd
like
to
have
a
more
protection
for
those
sites.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Thank
you
so
much,
ms
martinson,
that
what
thank
you
that
was
fascinating.
It
was
informative
and
I
now
have
to
turn
the
gavel
back
over
to
chair
donate
for
any
other
presenters
and
if
there
are
no
more
presenters
to
go
to
testimony.
I
E
I
want
to
thank
helen
mortensen
and
dr
steve
roland
for
being
here
again.
There
are
many
treasures
up
there
with
sunrise
mountain
frenchman,
mountain
rainbow,
gardens,
natural
beauty,
gypsum
cave
is
important,
both
as
a
cultural
site
and
archaeologically
paleontologically
in
terms
of
the
treasures
there
and,
unfortunately,
it's
not
being
protected.
Now,
the
great
unconformity
is
of
just
tremendous
significance
to
to
geologists.
E
There
are
tremendous
opportunities
in
that
area
for
for
not
only
for
learning,
for
science
for
recreation,
but
for
things
that
need
to
be
preserved,
and
I
I
do
thank
you
chair
for
giving
us
this
time
and
there
are
no
no
more
presenters,
I
believe
on
who
want
to
present
on
video.
So
thank
you
for
the
time
for
the
presentation.
I
Thank
you
senator.
Do
we
have
any
questions
from
the
committee
members
before
we
proceed
to
testimony
at
this
time?
I
don't
see
any
all
right.
Let's
go
ahead
and
proceed
to
testimony
before
we
go
to
the
phone
lines
to
continue
testimony.
I
I
just
want
to
mention
that,
as
a
reminder,
we
will
be
limiting
all
testifiers
to
two
minutes.
Each
testifiers
are
encouraged
to
summarize
their
positions
and
submit
more
comprehensive
testimony
in
writing.
Bps
is
there
anyone
on
the
line
wishing
to
provide
support
testimony
for
sjr10.
C
F
Thank
you,
chair,
donate
members
of
the
committee.
My
name
is
warren.
Hardy
w-a-r-r-e-n
last
name
hardy
h-a-r-d-y,
I'm
testifying
today
for
myself
I
am
a
resident
of
sunrise
mountain
and
have
been
for
many
many
years.
It
was
so
delightful
for
me
to
hear
from
mrs
mortensen
who
I
had
the
pleasure
of
serving
with
her
senate,
her
husband.
While
I
served
in
the
senate-
and
he
was
a
brilliant,
brilliant
scientist,
and
I'm
so
delighted
that
to
hear
that
she
has
not
given
up
his
quest
to
convince
everybody.
F
The
correct,
pronounced
pronunciation
of
the
state
is
nevada,
and
so
I
I'm
I'm
with
I'm
with
the
senator
mortensen
on
that,
and
I'm
so
glad
to
see
that
mrs
morton
hasn't
given
up
that
endeavor.
You
know.
I
first
learned
about
the
great
unconformity
while
I
was
at
unlv,
but
my
entire
life.
I've
been
I've
spent
recreating
on
that
mountain
I've
hiked
up
to
the
top
of
that
with
to
the
saddle,
as
we
used
to
call
it
with
boy
scouts,
I've
taken
the
boy
scouts
to
the
gypsum
cave.
F
I
spend
many
hours.
In
fact
yesterday
I
was
out
at
rainbow
rainbow
gardens.
I
spend
time
at
lava
butte
I
recreate
there
and
I
would
offer
to
the
committee
anybody
who
has
not
been
out
there
to
see
lava.
Butte
come
up
come
on
over
I'll.
Take
you
out
in
my
jeep
it's
one
of
the
most
beautiful
places
in
in
the
in
the
country
and
certainly
in
the
in
nevada.
F
So
I
I
do
use
that
area
that
currently
the
registered
or
permitted
vehicles
registered
vehicles
are
permitted
out
there
on
the
trails
on
the
roads
and
we
need
to
keep
it
that
way.
I
do
take
my
my
daughter
and
my
family
out
there
in
our
on
our
atvs
and
we
need
to.
We
need
to
have
a
designated
trail.
I
think
most
people
are
very
respectful
of
that,
but
just
yesterday
it
broke
my
heart.
I
was
out
there
in
my
jeep
and
trash
everywhere.
This
protection
is
very,
very
needed.
F
It
is
a
phenomenal
recreation
area
for
the
residents
of
the
east
side
of
the
valley
enjoyed
it
for
many
many
years
and
and
we
need
to
provide
the
protections
that
are
necessary
to
make
sure
it's
preserved
for
for
further
generations.
So,
mr
chairman,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
drone
on
a
little
bit,
but
I
wanted
to
lend
my
support
to
this
this
resolution.
Thank
you.
C
Color
with
the
last
three
digits
five,
please
press
star,
step
six
to
unmute.
Thank
you,
caller,
with
the
last
three
digits
four
four
five,
please
slowly
state
and
spell
your
name
for
the
record.
You
will
have
two
minutes
and
may
begin.
J
J
Thank
you
so
much
senator
orenshaw
for
bringing
it
and
for
all
your
co-sponsors,
and
especially
to
helen
mortensen,
whom
I
met
in
the
past
during
the
the
lead
up
in
the
campaign,
protectors
of
tui
springs
and
and
what
a
happy
day
when
it
finally
received
its
national
monument
status,
and
we
look
forward
to
a
happy
day
for
frenchman,
sunrise.
Also.
J
I
I
see
it
I
can
see
it.
I
just
was
looking
at
it
from
my
patio
in
henderson,
so
I
consider
these
the
iconic
sentinels
of
the
east
east
valley,
with
unparalleled
opportunities
for
solitude
views,
hiking,
photography
and
intro
to
our
valley's
geology
and
the
sheer
joy
of
exploration
and
researching
to
speak
today.
J
I
I
reviewed
dr
roland's
amazing
website
very
comprehensive
with
charts
and
maps
about
the
great
unconformity
and
other
special
interest
areas
of
interest
and
sunrise
frenchman,
mountain.
I
I
think
the
opportunity
for
education
and
eco-tourism
are
amazing.
Here
in
our
valley-
and
this
would
just
only
add
to
it-
I
I
love
the
place
to
see
mammals
and
the
giant
shasta
ground
swath,
and
somebody
sent
me
a
fact
that
it
was
a
pollinator
for
joshua
tree
seeds,
which
is
you
know,
the
foundation
of
our
landscape.
J
I
I
do
want
to
point
out
the
bearpaw
coffee
populations
and
the
fact
that
the
gypsum
cave
as
mrs
mortensen
mentioned
it
really
is
a
place
of
great
religious
and
cultural
significance
to
the
southern
paiutes.
That
extensive
is
the
state
and
a
major
principle
of
the
sierra
club
is
to
respect
and
honor
and
conserve
and
preserve
native
sites
whenever
possible,
and
this
this
is
really
important
to
keep
the
vandalism
away
and
the
disrespect
away
from
it.
J
Also,
the
goal
of
protecting
30
of
public
lands
by
2030
and
waters
is
really
important,
and
this
designation
would
certainly
add
to
that.
I'm
a
lifelong
hiker
and
outdoors
lover,
and
just
really
grateful
to
the
likes
of
mrs
mortensen
and
dr
roland
who've
come
before
me
and
the
decades
of
hard
work
deserve
to
be
rewarded
by
a
federal
designation.
Thank
you.
C
K
K
K
K
I
think
that
is
a
big
loss
to
our
community
and
I
fear
the
same
kind
of
residential
or
commercial
development
in
the
areas
that
are
subject
to
the
proposal
for
you
today,
I've
been
to
the
gypsum
cave.
C
L
C
M
This
is
patrick
donnelly,
p,
a
t
r,
I
c
k
d,
o
n
n
e
l,
l
y,
I'm
nevada
state
director
with
the
center
for
biological
diversity,
we're
speaking
today
in
support
of
sjr10,
but
we
would
caution
that
the
devil
is
in
the
details.
On
the
on
the
protective
side,
I
would
say
I've
enjoyed
recreating
in
these
areas,
especially
when
I
lived
in
east
las
vegas,
but
the
center's
primary
interest
in
this
area
is
because
it
is
vital,
essential
habitat
for
the
persistence
and
recovery
of
the
imperiled
las
vegas
bear
poppy.
M
A
native
wildflower
rainbow
gardens
in
particular,
is
one
of
the
most
important
remaining
habitats
for
this
very
rare
plant.
My
organization
submitted
a
petition
to
the
u.s
fish
and
wildlife
service
in
2019
to
protect
the
las
vegas
bear
poppy
under
the
endangered
species
act
owing
to
the
alarming
loss
of
habitat
and
population
has
experienced
over
the
past
several
decades
and
last
year.
We
that
petition
advanced
to
the
second
stage
of
evaluation
for
endangered
species
act
protections,
so
protecting
frenchman,
mountain
and
rainbow
gardens
area
would
provide
important
protections
for
the
las
vegas
bear
poppy.
M
However,
the
word
of
caution:
the
protection
this
place
needs
is
from
people,
many
of
whom
are
to
use
the
area
for
recrea
are
there
to
use
the
area
for
recreation.
The
area
appears
to
be
suffering
from
overuse,
and
it's
entirely
likely
that
a
campaign
to
see
the
area
put
under
a
protective
designation
will
serve
to
further
drive
users
to
the
area.
M
If
a
protective
designation
is
not
accompanied
by
a
substantial
increase
in
resources
for
the
bureau
of
land
management
for
planning
education
and
law
enforcement,
such
a
designation
could
be
counterproductive
to
conservation.
So
certainly
we
support
sjr10.
We
really
want
to
see
rainbow
gardens
permanently
protected,
but
we
also
want
to
sound
the
caution
that
more
and
more
designations
without
accompanying
allocations
of
federal
dollars
for
increased
management
could
have
counter
productive
impacts.
M
C
L
Good
afternoon,
chair
donate,
this
is
misty
grimmer
representing
myself,
and
I
didn't
realize
this
bill
was
on
the
agenda,
but
I'm
happy
to
see
it
there
and
I
strongly
support
this.
We
spend
a
lot
of
time
out
at
rainbow
gardens
doing
a
lot
of
hiking
around
that
area
and
the
whole
area
around
lake
mead.
But
I
would
echo
the
comments
of
mr
hardy
that
it's
a
it's
a
heartbreak
to
drive
out
around
rainbow
garden
and
see
the
way
that
so
many
people
have
essentially
used
it
as
a
trash
dump.
L
L
C
I
Thank
you
bps.
Next,
we
will
hear
testimony
in
that
position.
C
I
Thank
you
bps.
Anyone
wishing
to
testify
in
neutral
on
this
bill.
C
I
Thank
you,
bps
senator
orange.
Do
you
have
any
last
minute
remarks.
E
Your
donate
members
of
the
senate
natural
resources
committee.
Thank
you
very
much
for
hearing
senate
joint
resolution
10..
I
want
to
thank
helen
mortensen
and
dr
roland
and
bill
curran,
who
spoke
the
idea
for
senate
joint
resolution.
10
actually
came
out
of
a
conversation.
I
had
many
many
years
ago
with
my
friend
the
late
state
senator
tom
hickey,
who
represented
that
area.
E
It
was
an
idea
he
had
and
I
think
it's
got
tremendous
potential
and
would
be
such
a
benefit
not
only
to
protect
that
area
but
to
our
community
if
this
were
to
pass
and
if
the
federal
government
were
to
acknowledge
nevada's
request
and
try
to
protect
this
treasure
because
there
are
treasures
in
our
backyards.
But
unfortunately,
the
level
of
protection
here
is
just
not
not
living
up
to
the
kind
of
the
kind
of
the
you
know,
treasures
we
have
there
and
from
what
I
understand.
E
Reading
the
history
of
red
rock
canyon,
you
go
back
40
50
years
ago.
People
would
dump
old
cars
at
red
rock
canyon
and
use
them
for
target
practice
and
do
a
lot
of
dumping
there.
And
there
were
a
lot
of
problems
there,
till
the
federal
government
increased
the
protections
for
a
rock
canyon
and
it's
become
the
treasure
we
have.
I
believe
the
same
potential
exists
there
in
this.
This
treasure
here
on
the
eastern
side
of
our
valley
between
the
metropolitan
areas
of
las
vegas,
unincorporated
clark,
county
henderson
and
lake
mead.
I
I
Many
people
don't
know
unless
if
I've
mentioned
it
to
you
specifically,
but
I
went
to
east
career
and
technical
academy,
which
is
literally
on
sunrise
mountain.
So
I
spent
many
many
years
acknowledging
the
sunrise
and
the
sunset
when
I
was
there
for
high
school
and
also
chasing
the
soccer
balls
once
they
went
over
the
gate
into
sunrise
mountain.
So
thank
you
again
senator
for
bringing
this
forward
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
this
bill
move
forward.
I
So
at
this
time
I
will
go
ahead
and
close
the
hearing
on
sql.
Before
I
close
here
senator
hanson.
Do
you
have
a
question
or.
N
Yeah
action
chair,
we're
gonna,
have
a
work
session
everybody's
in
support
of
this
bill.
I
would
suggest
that
we
might
move
it
into
the
work
session,
we're
getting
a
little
late
in
the
session
if
they
want
to
get
this
thing
onto
the
floor
and
move
out
of
the
house
as
quick
as
we
can,
and
so
I
would
just
make
that
suggestion.
I
Yeah,
if
my
intention
is
visually,
just
to
wait
a
little
bit,
but
I'd
be
more
than
willing
to
put
this
on
the
agenda
for
thursday.
If
that's
something
that
the
community
is
looking
forward
to
do,
since
we
will
be
having
a
work
session
on
thursday,
so
I
think
that's
probably
the
best
stuff
that
we
can
do
just
in
case
if
any
issues
come
up.
But
thank
you
for
that
suggestion,
senator
hansen.
Okay,
I
will
go
ahead
and
close
the
hearing
on
sjr10
again.
I
The
committee
will
not
be
taking
any
action
on
sar
10,
but
it
will
bring
you
back
for
a
future
work
session
before
we
proceed
to
senate
bill,
349
we're
going
to
go
back
in
order
to
some
of
the
the
work
session
documents
that
we
were
gonna
do.
So
I
would
like
to
remind
everyone
that
we
will
not
be
taking
testimony
at
the
work
session.
However,
I
may
call
on
someone
as
necessary
to
answer
questions
from
committee
members.
I
I
believe
we
are
still
waiting
for
senator
sotomayor
to
come
on
for
sb
125,
so
we
can
proceed
with
other
builds.
So
let's
go
ahead
and.
I
Proceed
with
sb
34,
so
miss
rudy.
Please
proceed
when
you
are
ready
to
discuss
the
various
dangers
relating
to
agriculture.
O
O
Finally,
the
bill
clarifies
that
brand
inspections
must
be
completed
visually.
There
is
an
amendment
attached
to
the
work
session
document
and
it
is
proposed
by
the
senate
committee
on
natural
resources
to
correct
the
unintended
inclusion
of
chapter
585
of
the
nrs
in
sections
1
and
11,
and
to
add
the
definition
for
agricultural
police
officers.
Chapter
566
of
the
nrs,
and
that
is
there
was
one
fiscal
note
on
this
and
I
believe
that
was
from
the
risk
management
division.
I
Thank
you,
miss
rudy.
Do
any
committee
members
have
any
questions.
We
have
doug
ferris
administrator
of
animal
industry,
division
of
the
state
department
of
agriculture
present
to
answer
any
of
your
questions
before
we
proceed.
P
You,
mr
chairman,
probably
this
question
is
for
you
as
much
as
anyone.
There
is
a
fiscal
note:
will
this
bill
go
to
finance
or
is
I.
I
Thank
you
so
much
senator
garcia,
considering
the
amount
of
the
fiscal
note
provided
by
risk
management.
That
is
my
inclination,
and
I
hope
that
that
is
something
that
does
get
pulled
into
finance.
I
I
P
Senator
here
I
will
senator
get
you
I'm
sorry.
I
should
have
waited
first
yeah
I'll
support
the
motion.
As
long
as
it's
grown
to
finance,
I
still
have
some
concerns
about
how
we're
going
to
fund
this.
Thank
you,
and
I
know
this
is
the
policy
committee,
but
I'm
looking
forward
to
talking
to
mr
brooks
again.
N
I
thank
you,
mr
john.
I
I'm
going
to
be
voting
no
on
this.
I
just
don't
think
they
presented
enough
evidence
that
we
need
to
expand
another,
a
group
of
law
enforcement
people
in
rural
nevada.
So
that's,
but
that
that's
my
concern.
It's
not
that
the
bill
is
bad
and
glad
it's
going
to
finance
again,
I'm
uncomfortable
with
this
constant
expansion
of
law
enforcement
in
areas
where
they
didn't
justify
the
need.
Thank
you.
I
Thank
you
senator
hansen,
mr
ferris.
Did
you
want
to
chime
in
really
quick
just
on
the
implications
of
if
this
bill
does
not
pass
forward?
I'd
like
to
I'd
like
to
give
you
the
ability
to
answer
that
before
we
take
a
vote.
M
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
for
the
record,
my
name
is
doug
ferris,
I'm
the
administrator
for
animal
industry,
division
for
the
department
of
agriculture,
and
I
I
would
just
follow
up
with
that.
I
think
some
of
the
implications
that
we
foresee,
if,
if
we
did
not
move
forward
or
if
this
bill
were
to
not
move
forward,
is
just
the
continual
hiring
and
training
and
then
loss
of
of
staff
in
these
law
enforcement
positions
or
the
possibility
of
extended
periods.
M
As
I
know
we
mentioned-
or
I
mentioned
before
in
previous
meetings-
that
we
went
over
two
years
without
a
law
enforcement
officer
in
the
elko
area
and
we
currently
have
a
vacancy
in
our
ely
area.
So
I
know
our
concern
is
with
without
this
parity
we're
going
to
continue
down
this
road
of
either
hiring
staff
and
losing
them,
because
they
can
go
to
another
agency
and
have
the
benefits
afforded
to
them,
as
as
the
other
law
enforcement
officers
do
or
just
having
extended
periods
of
vacancy,
without
without
having
new
officers
coming
on
board.
I
Thank
you,
mr
bears
any
other
last
minute
remarks.
Before
we
bring
you
to
the
roll
call
vote,
none
will
the
secretary
please
proceed
to
call
the
role.
B
I
And
I
am
a
yes,
so
the
motion
carries
to
amend,
do
pass
and
re-refer
this
bill
to
the
senate
committee
on
finance
great
all
right,
let's
proceed
since
we
have
senator
senator
settlemyre,
let's
go
ahead
and
move
to
sb
125,
which
revises
provisions
relating
to
falconry
our
policy.
Analyst
jennifer
rudy.
Please
go
ahead
and
walk
us
through
the
work
session.
O
Thank
you,
chair
donate.
This
is
jennifer
rudy
committee
policy
analyst
and
as
lcb
staff,
I
can
either
advocate
for
or
oppose
legislation.
Your
nonpartisan
staff
senate
bill
125
requires
any
person
who
wishes
to
transport
possess
or
use
a
golden
eagle
in
falconry
to
obtain
a
falconry
license
from
the
department
of
wildlife.
O
Any
applicant
for
such
license
must
provide
documentation
satisfactory
to
the
department
to
show
that
the
applicant
satisfies
the
condition
set
forth
in
the
federal
regulations
enacted
pursuant
to
the
migratory
bird
treaty
act,
the
golden
eagle
was
taken
pursuant
to
a
permit
issued
in
accordance
with
existing
state
law
and
the
taking
complied
with
federal
law.
Such
a
falconry
license
is
deemed
to
be
the
permit
to
possess
a
golden
eagle
required
by
federal
regulations.
O
There
is
an
amendment
attached
to
the
work
session
document
and
the
attached
amendment
incorporates
the
proposed
changes
from
nevada's
department
of
wildlife.
With
certain
modifications
it
clarifies
that
a
person
is
prohibited
from
taking
any
golden
eagles,
newly
hatched,
eaglets
or
eagle
eggs
from
the
wild
in
this
state,
except
for
certain
circumstances.
The
board
of
wildlife
commissioners
must
adopt
regulations
to
establish
civil
pen
penalties
to
be
imposed
against
any
person
who
violates
such
a
prohibition.
O
The
board
of
wildlife
commissioners
may
adopt
regulations
that
provide
for
a
person
who
possesses
a
golden
eagle
pursuant
to
the
provisions
above
to
transport,
transfer,
possess
or
use
the
golden
eagle
for
falconry.
If
the
commission
adopts
such
regulations,
the
department
shall
require
the
person
to
obtain
a
falconry
license
and
an
eagle
permit.
O
The
commission
shall
adopt
regulations
to
establish
requirements
for
a
master
falconer
to
obtain
a
golden
eagle
permit
and
civil
penalties
to
be
imposed
against
any
person,
firm
company,
corporation
or
association
that
violates
the
provisions
related
to
taking
golden
eagles,
newly
hatched,
eaglets
or
eagle
eggs,
and
there
was
a
fiscal
note
on
this
and
I
believe
it
was
a
zero
fiscal
impact
from
the
department
of
wildlife.
Thank
you.
I
Thank
you,
miss
rudy.
Are
there
any
questions
from
the
committee
members
at
this
time,
senator
hanson.
M
Yes,
thank
you,
chair
danatay.
I
appreciate
that
and
thank
you
for
the
question
senator
hansen.
This
amendment
addresses
the
concerns
that
are
necessary
in
order
to
get
the
bill
moving
forward
and
I've
talked
to
the
individuals
within
the
industry.
They're
supportive
of
it
and
endow
was
also
the
person
who
has
to
craft
the
regulation.
So
it
was
important
to
make
sure
that
their
issues
and
concerns
were
addressed
also
so.
I
Yes,
it
is
friendly.
Thank
you.
Senator
settlemyre,
senator
hansen,
any
other
questions,
or
are
you
good?
I
P
Not
a
question
I'll
offer
a
motion
amanda
do
pass.
Thank
you.
N
I
Looks
like
it
was
seconded
by
senator
hansen,
any
discussion
on
the
motion.
I
Seeing
none
will
the
secretary
of
police
proceed
to
call
the
world
cup.
M
I
And
I
am
a
yes
motion
carries
thank
you
all
right
with
sb34.
I
will
go
ahead
and
take
care
of
the
floor
statement
and
last
but
not
l.
Last
but
not
least,
we
have
sp54
so
miss
rudy.
Please
proceed
when
you
are
ready
to
discuss
sb54,
which
revises
provisions
relating
to
the
state
board
of
agriculture.
O
So
this
bill
was
heard
on
february
23rd
and,
as
it
was
heard
it,
the
work
session
document
contains
a
summary
of
the
bill
as
it
was
introduced.
The
amendment
that
is
attached
also
includes
a
a
one
page
slide
with
a
green
border
on
the
top
and
and
a
blue
border
on
the
bottom.
That
really
helps
to
understand
what
the
amendment
is
doing
with
these
members,
because
it
is
changing
the
membership
further
from
the
bill
as
introduced
as
introduced.
O
The
bill
was
going
to
keep
the
membership
at
11
members,
but
with
this
amendment,
if
it's
okay
with
the
chair,
I
will
go
ahead
and
speak
to
the
amendment.
Okay,
the
amendment
that
is
attached
was
submitted
subsequent
to
the
hearing
of
the
bill
by
the
director
of
the
state
department
of
agriculture
in
lieu
of
certain
amendments
presented
at
the
hearing
on
february
23rd
by
the
chair
of
the
state
board
of
agriculture,
the
executive
vice
president
of
the
nevada
farm
bureau
federation
and
the
nevada
veterinary
medical
association.
O
The
amendment
now
is
going
to
retain
one
of
those
sheep.
Well,
the
one
sheep
producer
is
going
to
retain
one
of
the
three
cattle
producers
and
then
the
two
other
cattle
producer
positions
will
now
be
livestock
produced,
one
will
be
a
livestock
producer
and
one
will
be
a
member
who
has
veterinary
experience
in
a
mixed
animal
or
large
animal
practice
and
is
licensed
in
the
state
of
nevada
as
a
licensed
veterinarian.
O
Each
member
who
is
serving
on
the
state
board
of
agriculture
on
june
30th
2020,
will
continue
to
serve
until
the
expiration
of
his
or
her
term
or
until
a
vacancy
occurs.
Whichever
occurs
first,
the
governor
is
required
to
appoint
the
members
representing
supplemental
nutrition
distribution
and
food
manufacturing
or
animal
processing.
O
I
N
Thanks
chair
a
couple:
what
what's
the
total
number
now
on
this
board?
Is
it?
Is
it
9,
11
13?
What's
I'm
sorry,
I
couldn't.
I
can't
hear.
O
N
I
got
it
and,
and
did
the
existing
ag
board,
have
a
chance
to
review
the
the
amendment
and
do
you
know
if
they
approved
it
or
not?.
I
Thank
you
senator
hanson.
For
that
question
I
will
defer
to
director
who's
also
on
this
to
cancer
yeah.
Thank
you.
L
Thank
you
chairman.
This
is
jennifer
ott
from
the
director
director
of
the
department
of
agriculture.
There
has
not
been
a
board
meeting
and
as
a
board
to
approve
this
amendment,
but
I
worked
through
this
amendment
with
the
chairman
of
the
board
and
he
is
happy
with
it.
I
Thank
you
senator
hansen,
any
other
last-minute
questions
before
we
proceed.
I
Okay,
I
don't
see
any,
do
I
have
a
senator.
Could
you.
I
Thank
you
for
that
question,
senator
gokuchi,
and
we
also
have
alan
ambron
if
you
can
chime
in
on
this.
That
is
not
something
that's
reflected
from
my
understanding
in
this
amendment
and
I'd
like
maybe
either
our
legal
counsel
mr
allen
amber
to
discuss
further
or
we
can
have
a
director
as
well.
So.
N
Alan
amburn
for
the
record
this
proposed
amendment
from
the
department
does
not
reflect
that
amendment.
P
Thank
you,
mr
umberg,
and
to
the
chair.
I
will
oppose
this
motion
or
this
this
bill,
then,
because
we
have
failed
to
address
that
key
issue
in
my
mind,
and
that
is
the
duties
of
the
egg
board.
Thank
you.
I
Thank
you
senator
goticia
director.
I
have
a
quick
question
following
up
that
what
has
been
the
conversations
that
you've
had
since
the
hearing
was
conducted
and
what
the
proposed
amendment
does,
can
you
can
you
provide
some
broad
oversight
on
that?
Just
so
that,
for
our
understanding
before
we
proceed.
L
Sure
I'm
happy
to
jennifer
ott
a
director
of
the
department
of
agriculture
for
the
record.
Yes,
I've
had
several
conversations
on
this
bill
and
this
amendment
I
the
language
reflecting
the
veterinary
experience,
came
out
of
my
conversations
with
the
and
I
apologize.
If
I
don't
get
the
name
of
the
association
perfectly
proper,
but
the
veterinary
medical
association,
I
had
conversations
with
them
and
they
helped
me
with
that
language
to
make
sure
that
a
vet
vet
experience
is
is
retained
on
the
board.
L
L
We
did
not
discuss
their
amendment
as
it
was
not
part
of
this
conversation.
They
knew
it
was
coming
to
work
session
and
you
know
it
was
sort
of
a
you
know.
It's
coming
to
work
session,
and
so
you
know
there
wasn't
really
any
further
discussion
on
it.
I
had
a
conversation
with
the
governor's
office
who
the
governor
does
appoint
these
members
and
they
are
okay
with
the
amendment.
I
Thank
you
so
much
director
any
other
questions
before
we
proceed.
I
Okay,
I
don't
see
any
seeing
no
more
questions.
I
will
go
ahead
and
entertain
a
motion
to
amend
and
do
past
sb54.
I
Thank
you
senator
tribal,
and
do
I
have
a
second
second
senator
brooks
seconded
by
senator
brooks?
Is
there
any
discussion
on
the
motion?
Senator
hanson.
N
Thanks
chair,
I'm
concerned
about
the
growth
of
the
size
of
the
board.
You
start
getting
boards
up
to
13
members,
their
ability
to
function
declines.
I'm
also
concerned
about
a
a
slowed
dilution
of
the
intent
of
the
board.
N
The
ag
the
ag
component
seems
to
be
becoming
less
of
a
significant
majority
and
I
think
the
antenna
of
the
ag
borders
to
do
deal
with
ag
things
there's
like
wildlife,
commission
boards
about
wildlife
and
contractors
boards
about
contracting-
and
I
see
a
definite
drift
in
this,
and
so
I'm
going
to
be
a
no
thank
you.
P
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
chair
and
again,
I
am
not,
as
concerned
about
the
makeup
of
the
of
the
community
of
the
ag
board,
truly
that,
if
that's
the
will
of
the
of
again
the
committee,
but
again,
I
I
think,
as
we
move
to
13
members,
it
does
spread
it
out.
The
ag
board
is
is
a
board
that
is
set
somewhat
different
in
statute
and
I'm
afraid
that
we
are
moving
away
from
being
governed
governed
by
an
ag
board
to
be
creating
an
advisory
board.
P
I
I
don't
see
none,
but
I
just
want
to
mention
the
I
director
I
do
look
forward
to
working
with
you
and
the
nevada
farm
bureau
on
addressing
any
concerns
that
were
brought
up
from
their
amendment
and
seeing
how
that
conversation
continues
on
beyond
this
legislation.
So
just
wanted
to
bring
that
to
your
attention
so
well
the
secretary
at
this
time.
Please
go
ahead
and
proceed
to
call
the
roll
call
vote.
P
I
The
motion
carries
and
with
the
permission
I
will
go
ahead
and
assign
this
for
statement
to
buy
search
tribal.
If
that's
fine-
and
I
didn't
mention
sb125,
but
nb2125
will
be
assigned
to
senator
settlemyre
for
the
floor
statement.
Okay,
thank
you
committee.
For
helping
with
that
work
session
we
can
go
ahead
and
proceed
with
our
last
agenda
item,
which
is
senate
bill
349..
I
I
will
go
ahead
and
open
the
hearing
on
ssb349.
This
measure
revises
provisions
relating
to
public
health.
There
are
four
presenters
from
my
understanding
for
sb49,
so
we
have
senator
ornshall,
michael
dele,
jessica
clark
and
angela
o'callaghan,
so
senator
orrinshaw
please
proceed
when
you
are
ready.
E
Thank
you
very
much.
Chair
donate
and
members
of
the
senate
committee
on
natural
resources.
Again
for
the
record
james
orenshaw,
I
represent
state
senate
district
21,
that's
parts
of
henderson
and
unincorporated
clark
county.
Thank
you
for
hearing
senate
bill
349
today,
and
I
do
as
you
said,
chair
I
do
have
co-presenters
and
if,
with
your
indulgence,
chair
I'd
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
to
well,
I
have
a
brief
brief
intro.
E
If,
with
your
indulgence,
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
to
my
co-presenters
and
then
I'd
like
to
answer
any
questions
I
have
dr
angelo
callahan,
I
have
jessica
clark.
I
have
cody
witt
dr
steven
andraki
and
mr
michael
dele
senate
bill
349
looks
like
a
very
complicated
bill
and
I
could
be
real
brief
as
to
the
genesis
of
it.
E
I'm
a
proud
parent
of
two
sons,
they're,
seven
and
eight,
and
I
I've
been
trying
to
get
them
to
eat,
eat
healthy,
eat
a
lot
of
fruit
and
be
a
little
healthier
than
their
old
man,
and
they
they
love
bananas.
My
boys
love
bananas.
I
can
run
to
the
grocery
store
and
buy.
You
know
20
bananas
in
one
night
and
I'm
not
kidding
by
the
next
morning.
They're
usually
gone
and
they
go
through
those
bananas
like
crazy
and
I
have
very
good
intentions.
E
I
have
very
good
intentions
that
I'm
going
to
separate
all
those
banana
peels,
I'm
not
going
to
let
them
go
into
into
the
waste
I'm
going
to
separate
them.
I'm
going
to
let
them
you
know,
compost,
I'm
going
to
use
them
in
the
garden.
I
am
going
to
do
something
really
good
and
positive,
with
them
for
the
environment
and
I've
had
those
good
intentions
for
about
oh
seven
or
eight
years
now
in
terms
of
their
love
of
bananas
and,
unfortunately,
there's
a
lot
of
excuses.
E
I
can
come
up
with
I'm
too
tired
at
the
end
of
the
day
I
just
I'll
get
to
it
next
week,
but
I
haven't
started
that
compost
file
and
I
haven't
started
composting
senate
bill.
349
is
a
really,
I
think,
innovative
idea
that
I've
been
approached
with
to
try
and
make
sure
that
it's
easier
to
try
and
recycle
food
waste
and
let
it
be
used
by
people
who
would
use
it.
E
If
you
come
to
my
house
you're
not
going
to
see
much
of
a
gorgeous
garden,
my
wife
and
I
had
tried
to
garden
and
tried
to
plant
vegetables
and
for
a
while
we
got
a
little.
We
got
a
little
bit,
but
we
weren't
particularly
endowed
with
green
thumbs
and
the
garden
didn't
turn
out
that
great
right
now,
the
garden
is
a
lot
of
sagebrush
and
it's
not
so
green.
We're
not.
We
wouldn't
even
have
a
place
to
put
the
compost
right
now
if
we
used
it,
but
I
still
feel
guilty.
E
When
I
see
all
those
banana
peels
go
into
the
trash
can
so
that
that's
kind
of
the
thought
behind
senate
bill
349
trying
to
make
it
easy
for
people
to
recycle
food
waste
rather
than
having
it
end
up
in
the
trash
bin
and
in
the
landfill
other
parts.
Other
jurisdictions
around
the
country
are,
are
trying
to
do
this,
trying
to
make
sure
it's
easy
for
people
to
separate
that
and
to
have
that
recycled
and
composted.
E
Certainly
before
we
had
recycling
of
plastic
and
aluminum
as
as
convenient
and
easy
as
it
is
now,
it
was
a
challenge
to
do
it
and
we're
very
lucky
that
it
is
so
easy
and
convenient.
Now
I
have
been
approached
by
a
lot
of
stakeholders
with
some
concerns
about
some
of
the
definitions
in
the
bill
and
I'm
sure
you'll
hear
from
them
later
on,
and
I
I
want
to
work
with
them
and
I
want
a
bill
that
that
addresses
those
concerns.
E
B
This
is
a
large
city
with
a
number
of
people,
but
we
haven't
been
recycling
compostable
waste
and
we
are
doing
a
lot
of
work
now
with
trying
to
improve
our
southern
nevada,
agriculture
and,
unfortunately,
if
you've
ever
tried
to
say,
dig
a
hole
or
plant
something
here
in
southern
nevada.
You
may
have
found
it
to
be
something
of
a
challenge.
Well,
part
of
the
challenge
is
because
our
soils
are
notoriously
infertile
and
being
able
to
compost.
Food
waste
will
actually
serve
the
growers
by
improving
soils
that
we
are
trying
to
grow
local
food.
B
B
So
if
there's
a
way
that
we
can
in
this
fairly
small
approach
limit
or
at
least
decrease
some
of
the
food
waste,
that's
going
to
the
the
the
dump
for
one
of
the
better
terms.
We
can
actually
improve
our
carbon
footprint.
We
can
improve
our
soils
and
we
can
include
people
in
this
process
of
food
generation.
This
is
not
something
that
we
don't
usually
think
about
the
rank
and
file.
You
know
mom
and
dad
who
are
living
in
an
apartment.
B
They
are
not
necessarily
going
to
be
approached
for,
for
being.
You
know,
big
compost,
generators
or
users,
but
they
can
generate
food
garbage,
which
will
then
be
able
to
be
something
that's
going
to
be
used
in
composting.
That's
going
to
be
actually
a
soil
amendment
and
that's
going
to
work
wonders
when
we
are
looking
at
ways
to
improve
local
urban
agriculture.
B
Local
agriculture
is
something
that
we're
seeing
more
and
more
requests
for
proposals
from
usda
on
looking
at
real
urban
agriculture
and
peri-urban
agriculture.
Not
just
it's
not
just
the
midwest.
Okay,
we're
not
going
to
be
growing
wheat,
but
we
can
grow
specialty
crops
which
are
also
the
high
value
crops.
So
this
is
the
sort
of
thing
that
will
actually
improve
life
for
southern
nevada
in
many
ways:
improving
our
soil,
improving
our
access
to
fresh
local
vegetables
and
helping
farmers
to
improve
their
soils.
B
I
Q
Oh
sorry,
hi,
my
name
is
jessica,
I'm
from
starseeds
urban
farm.
We
have
a
small
micro,
green
and
sprout
farm
in
the
city
of
las
vegas.
We
also
have
a
food
trailer
where
we
sell
our
greens,
along
with
other
producers
like
tnt
ranch,
we
sell
some
of
their
eggs
as
well
as
their
organic
squash.
Q
I
wanted
to
say
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
present
our
our
need
for
this
I'll
start
with
presenting
the
plan
that
we
are
currently
using
and
how
this
bill
would
help
us
make
this
so
much
better.
Currently,
we
we
compost
all
of
our
farm
waste,
our
produce
waste
with
a
company
called
viva
la
compost.
Viva
la
compost
started
their
journey
about
10
years
ago
and
started
creating
organic
gardens
and
growing
food.
Q
They
now
currently
have
100
customers
where
they
collect
compost
in
the
bucket
in
the
buckets
that
angela
was
mentioning.
Those
buckets
are
then
taken
to
the
only
compost
facility
in
las
vegas,
which
is
terra,
firma
organics.
They
collect
the
compost,
along
with
other
landscape
compost
from
the
valley.
There's
no
local
produce
drop
off
unless
you
go
through
vivala
compost
and
then
that
compost
is,
I
believe,
it's
there,
for.
I
want
to
say
three
to
three
to
six
months,
where
they
turn
the
compost
and
then
sell
it
to
star
nursery
for
planting
gardens.
Q
What
we
would
like
to
do
and
what
we'd
like
to
see,
is
actually
using
our
produce
waste,
our
farm
waste,
our
production
waste
and
seeing
it
go
back
to
the
farms,
and
then
you
know
us
being
able
to
sell
that
produce
so,
instead
of
it
going
to
terra
firma,
where
that
small
portion
of
nutrient
dense
waste
kind
of
gets
lost
in
the
mix
of
the
hundreds
and
thousands
of
pounds
of
palm
tree
and
and
weed
waste
and
other
trimmings
from
like
landscaping
waste.
Q
So
you
don't
really
see
a
lot
of
nutrients
in
the
soil
in
that.
In
that
specific
compost
and
the
the
composting
method
that
that
was
brought
to
our
attention
and
that
we
would
like
to
see
like
angela
was
saying
would
be
completely
closed.
There
would
be
no
pests,
no
flies,
which
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
compo
terra
firma
does
not
use.
Q
Does
not
is
not
able
to
accept
waste
like
banana
peels,
so
what
we
would
like
to
do
is
see
that
produce
waste,
our
nutrient
dense
waste
being
used
to
a
local
farm
that
could
then
create
local
organic
food
for
us
to
sell,
and
so
this
would
really
complete
the
local
sustainability
cycle
that
we
really
feel
that
we
need.
Q
Q
Just
to
read
a
couple:
we
have
one
from
lonnie.
Please
pass
this
bill.
It
is
a
positive
step
towards
sustainability
and
environmentalism
for
our
state.
With
all
the
food
waste
that
is
created,
we
must
have
measures
to
effectively
reduce
methane
emissions
and
send
these
nutrients
back
to
our
soils
as
part
of
a
healthy
ecosystem.
Q
We
also
have
oops,
sorry
give
me
one.
Second,
we
also
have
from
cassie
snow.
This
bill
is
a
crucial
step
in
the
right
direction,
to
making
composting
more
accessible
to
all
members
of
our
community
and
to
a
more
sustainable
future
for
all.
We
must
push
for.
We
must
push
for
con.
Can
I'm
sorry
we
must
push
for
continued
landfill,
diversion
and
and
circular
mindset.
Composable
materials
are
valuable
and
should
be
looked
at
in
the
in
that
way.
Q
Q
We
have
from
ellen
soy
as
a
major
tourist
city.
We
need
to
set
an
example
of
sustainability.
We
should
be
doing
everything
we
can
to
create
a
sustainable
lifestyle
as
desert
dwellers.
We
face
the
inevitable
challenges
caused
by
climate
change.
This
is
one
step
that
we
must
make
and
implement
to
improve
our
chances
of
a
more
sustainable
future.
As
a
society,
we
need
to
reassess
our
notion
of
throwing
things
away.
There's
really
no
a
way
as
much
out
there
out
of
sight
and
out
of
mind
with
this
bill
we
can
do.
Q
We
can
confront
many
things.
We
can
reduce
the
amount
of
waste
that
goes
into
landfill.
We
can
reduce
the
green
gas,
the
greenhouse
gas
is
created
when
compostable
materials
break
down
anaerobically,
and
we
can
reduce
the
need
for
chemical
fertilizers
that
have
been
shown
to
deplete
the
soil
and
cause
desert
desertification.
Q
The
bill
will
also
allow
us
to
move
forward
and
away
from
plastic
packaging.
We
must
continually
re-evaluate
the
norm
that
cells
must
always
include
single-use
plastic
packaging
which
which
uses
fossil
fuels
in
its
creation
and
pollutes
the
planet
with
its
disposal
as
a
consumer.
There
is
only
so
much
that
can
be
done
on
an
individual
level.
I
therefore
implore
you
implore
you
to
pass
this
bill
so
that
way
me
we
may
see
a
change
on
a
larger
scale,
local
level,
and
that's
just
some
of
the
comments
that
we've
received
today.
Q
Q
E
Thank
you
very
much,
chair,
donate
with
your
permission,
a
cody
witt
from
full
circle
compost
in
here
in
the
reno
sparks
area.
E
He
was
having
some
technical
issues,
but
hopefully
he's
logged
back
in,
if
not
dr
stephen
andraki,
from
ecobloom
farm.
E
Perhaps
they're
on
the
phone,
mr
chair,
I'm
not
he's
having
a
technical
issue.
I
know
he
was
bounced
out
earlier.
Bounce
was
told
that
he
bounced
back
in,
but.
I
Okay,
I
think
he
said
orange,
so
I
think
they
might
be
on
the
phone
line
looks
like
we
are
ready
to
go
with
questions
at
this
time.
E
With
your
permission,
I
do
have
mr
de
lee.
Okay
on
the
zoom.
D
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity
to
present.
I
understand
we
have
some
technical
issues,
it'd
be
fantastic
if
we
could
get
in.
I
just
see
a
message
coming
from
dr
andraki
that
he's
having
trouble
getting
unmuted.
So
perhaps
I'll
be
very
brief,
and
then
you
can
proceed
to
pick
up.
Dr
andraki,
not
sure
what
the
problem
is
with
cody,
whit
from
full
circle.
Organics
there's
a
lot.
D
We
could
learn
from
him,
so
I'm
hoping
we
can
get
him
online
here
and
I'll
just
begin
by
stating
his
his
concern,
which
is
shared
by
a
lot
of
people,
and
that
is
that
we
we
aim
too
low
with
the
bill.
We
really
did
want
to
incorporate
a
lot
more
materials
than
just
a
very,
very
narrow
definition.
D
Hopefully
we'll
get
him
online
and
he
can
talk
about
that,
but
the
reason
we
did.
That
is
because
we
wanted
to
not
upset
the
apple
cart
and
we
may
have
upset
the
other
apple
cart
anyway.
So
if
we're
going
to
go,
look
at
some
more
stuff,
then
maybe
we'll
just
broaden
that
beyond
this,
which
is
the
new
concept,
it's
new
here
I'll
talk
just
a
few
minutes
about
what
this
is,
because
we
adopted
the
regulation
that
was
in
print
from
ohio,
coming
up
with
a
language
and
it's
technically
known
as
bokashi
fermentation.
D
So
it's
technically
not
composting,
but
that's
what
everyone
understands
it
and
I'm
no
expert
at
that.
I'm
not
sure
what
an
expert
I
am
in
anything,
but
this
is
something
that
is
ideally
suited
to
what
veronica's
business
model.
What
veronica
and
jessica
were
trying
to
do
with
their
proposal
to
clark
county,
because
it
is
an
anaerobic
process,
it
doesn't
produce
the
methane
and
carbon
dioxide
that
traditional
composting
does
produce
and
you
don't
need
a
lot
of
it
because
you
don't
need
to
raise
the
temperatures
to
kill
off
the
pathogens.
D
It's
an
acidic
process,
it's
acidic
anaerobic
fermentation
and
it's
already
documented
worldwide.
It's
developed
in
east
asia,
korea
and
japan,
but
it's
becoming
more
popular
here.
You
can
look
at
websites
for
city
of
tucson
and
they
promote
it
heavily
as
well
as
a
lot
of
other
jurisdictions,
and,
as
I
mentioned,
our
code,
language
comes
from
comes
from
ohio.
So
it's
pretty
much
word
for
word.
D
There's
a
lot
of
states
that
are
well
ahead
of
us,
such
as
california,
connecticut,
maine,
massachusetts,
vermont
et
cetera,
and
trying
to
bring
policy
towards
that.
A
lot
of
jurisdictions
already
collect
compost,
materials,
we're
not
we're
not
really
there
yet
where
we
need
to
be
especially
on
the
residential
side,
especially
in
southern
nevada.
D
And
a
lot
of
that
is
we.
You
know
we
just
have
issues,
but
this
is
one
way
that
we
can
let
businesses
small
businesses
in
fact
use
innovative
ways
to
get
the
job
done
for
us
right
at
the
residential
level
and
go
directly
to
the
farm.
We've
heard
a
lot
on
the
producer
side
of
farm
to
table
and
connecting
the
know,
your
farm
and
know
your
food.
Well,
this
is
kind
of
the
other
end
of
that
this
is.
The
farmer
actually
needs
the
kitchen
waste
in
order
to
benefit
the
soil,
as
dr
o'callaghan
said.
D
So
I
won't
repeat
a
lot
of
that.
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that
we
have
a
lot
of
standards
at
the
farm
level
and
that's
built
into
the
statute
here.
What
we
propose
to
a
man
is
that
this
is
going
to
be
brought
to
a
farm.
This
is
not
going
to
go
on
a
piece
of
ground
somewhere
and
just
sit
there
and
rot.
This
is
going
to
be
brought
to
a
farm.
D
We
have
the
food
safety,
modernization
act,
federal
level
that
guides
a
lot
of
what
needs
to
be
done
with
compostable
materials,
which
this
would
be
defined,
as
we
also
have
for
a
lot
of
the
organic
producers.
We
have
the
organic
natural
organics
program,
which
is
specified
here
in
the
in
this
text.
D
All
of
that
goes
into
detail
about
about
safety
and
we're
worried
about
food
safety,
and
what
goes
on
in
that,
so
we
want
to
hit
all
the
national
goals,
as
well
as
our
state
goals
that
we've
put
in
the
statute
and
agr3
covers.
I
know
we
talked
about
that
earlier
in
terms
of
increasing
our
carbon
sequestration.
D
This
is
the
best
way
to
do
it,
so
I
encourage
your
support,
I'm
hoping
we
can
get
back
to
dr
drake
and
cody
witt
I'll
just
touch
briefly
on
the
later
section
of
the
bill,
because
I
don't
think
the
other
presenters
are
there's
some
concerns
about
farmers,
markets
and
the
regulations
and
that
maybe
it's
going
a
little
too
far.
D
So
we
have
that
in
there,
but
I
think
most
of
the
most
the
discussion
today
is
actually
about
opening
up
the
field
to
go
directly
from
the
kitchens
to
the
farms
and
make
sure
that's
done
in
a
way
that
is
safe.
We
already
have
the
regulations
for
that
and
as
inclusive
and
as
democratic
and
widespread
as
possible,
and
we
look
forward
to
working
with
anybody
that
has
any
interest
in
this
and
changing
the
language.
E
Yes,
chair
with
your
indulgence,
cody
witt
from
full
circle
organics
actually
in
gardnerville,
is
here.
Thank
you,
mr
whip.
Thank
you
chair
peace,
christine.
R
Thank
you
very
much,
cody
whit,
representing
actually
full
circle,
compost,
nevada,
organics
up
in
carson
city,
nevada
and
actually
terra
firma,
organics
down
in
las
vegas
as
well.
R
Our
owner
is
a
co-owner
in
both
facilities,
just
some
brief
history
on
who
we
are
two
different
operations,
but
nevada,
organics,
full
circle,
compost,
who
is
me
cody
witt,
we're
the
longest
running
compost
site
in
the
state
we've
been
operating
for
the
last
24
years,
and
in
2020
alone
we
processed
over
87
000
cubic
yards
of
material
and
kept
them
out
of
the
landfill
specific
to
carbon
sequestration.
That's
the
equivalent
of
pulling
30
000
cars
off
of
the
road
annually
through
carbon
sequestration.
R
So
that's
the
conversion
of
the
organic
materials,
keeping
them
out
of
the
landfill,
not
off,
gassing
and
turning
them
into
compost
that
we
can
then
put
into
the
agricultural
setting
to
grow
more
plants
and
awesome
food.
So
full
circle's
mission
from
the
beginning.
Moving
forward
is
the
concept
and
idea
of
taking
materials
that
would
normally
go
to
the
landfill
convert
them
into
compost.
That
can
then
add
organic
matter.
R
Nutrition
and
biology
to
poor
nevada
soils
to
increase
the
over
far
overall
soil,
health
and
fertility
of
the
soil,
which
then
in
turn
can
increase
nutrient
density
of
those
87
000
cubic
yards.
That's
a
hard
number
to
think
of
so
just
think
of,
if
you're
in
vegas
or
in
reno,
either
the
wolf
pack
or
the
unlv
stadium
full
41
feet
high
worth
of
material.
It's
a
lot
of
material,
we
keep
out
of
landfill,
but
that
is
a
blend
of
fire
prevention,
materials
yard,
waste,
agricultural
waste
soils,
excavation
materials
and
and
food
waste.
R
I'm
going
to
speak
in
support
of
the
movement
of
the
composting
effort.
We've
been
working
for
24
years
in
a
very
difficult
environment.
We
pioneered
some
of
the
first
composting
efforts
ever
in
the
state
of
nevada,
and
now
some
of
the
largest
residential
programs
are
running
through
full
circle
up
here
in
northern
nevada
and
there's
also
very
large
programs
in
las
vegas.
R
However,
composting
is
a
lot
more
than
very
specific
definitions,
and
so,
as
michael
dele
had
already
indicated
with,
this
is
not
support
or
against,
or
for
it's
more
of
just
the
information.
So
everybody
can
make
an
informed
decision
in
the
composting
process.
Food
waste
is
a
nitrogen
cycle,
it's
a
nitrogen
factor
and
you
have
to
have
three
parts:
carbon
to
one
part,
nitrogen.
R
So
a
lot
of
the
times
we're
on
the
search
for
carbon
sources
to
blend
with
food
waste,
the
bokashi
definition,
which
is
a
great
program
used
in
japan,
there's
successful
case
studies
and
and
many
successful
companies
that
are
using
bokashi,
but
it's
extremely
small
scale.
R
So
with
this
definition
and
where
it
is
located
within
a
solid
waste
bill,
you're
opening
up
new
avenues
for
composting,
but
it
needs
to
include
every
stakeholder.
That's
out
there,
composters
agriculturalists
waste
haulers,
those
that
are
already
doing
it
and
those
that
want
to
start
doing
it
to
make
progressive
composting
movements
in
the
future.
And
so
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
specific
definitions
are
reviewed
to
include
items
that
might
be
left
out.
Number
one
include
composting
methodology.
That's
currently
not
even
used
locally.
Could
it
be
used?
R
Yes,
of
course,
it
could,
but
right
now,
for
example,
I'm
taking
30
tons
of
food
waste
a
week
from
commercial
clients
and
also
residential
clients
in
a
very
similar
program
where
bicyclists
drive
around
reno
and
collect
people's
residential
food
waste
and
guess
where
it
comes,
it
comes
to
here
to
full
circle.
We
turn
it
into
compost
and
it
goes
back
to
community
gardens.
We
sell
it.
R
It
requires
a
lot
of
capital
and
it's
a
very
low
profit
margin
business
that
we're
in
we
do
it
mainly
out
of
the
goodness
of
our
heart
for
mother
nature
and
and
it's
very
complicated,
especially
in
the
world
of
waste,
and
so
with
that
there
needs
to
be
efficient
waste
collection
if
you
open
it
up
and
people
start
handling
waste
inappropriately,
which
this
bill
in
the
in
the
narrow
definition
is
handling
a
lot
of
that.
R
We
just
need
to
make
sure
that
there's
no
loopholes
that
would
allow
for
inefficient
handling
of
food
waste.
For
example,
food
waste
is
our
most
contaminated
and
hard
to
compost,
material
that
we
collect
agricultural
waste
yard
waste,
manures
fire
prevention,
materials
from
lake
tahoe,
those
those
are
much
easier.
Food
waste
comes
with
pathogens,
it
comes
with
a
processing
necessity
and
it
comes
with
a
lot
of
oversight.
So,
even
though
michael
had
indicated
that
there
are
very
many
rules
and
regulations
in
place,
there
are
not
very
many
governing
bodies
watching
those
composters.
For
example,
myself.
R
I
am
a
permitted
compost
site
that
is
allowed
to
take
specific
feedstocks
with
specific
amounts
of
materials.
I
have
annual
regulations
or
annual
permits
that
I
have
to
keep
going.
I
have
to
sample
every
single
batch
of
compost
that
comes
out
locally.
We
saw
composting
being
taken
from
residents
that
was
turned
into
food
waste
that
had
five
times
the
e
coli
level
that
was
being
then
distributed.
R
We
need
to
watch
for
those
because
a
couple
years
ago
we
all
couldn't
have
lettuce
for
thanksgiving,
and
that
was
because
of
issues
within
the
food
mod
food
safety,
modernization
act,
which
michael
dele
also
mentioned,
I'm
rambling
a
little
bit,
but
there's
just
a
lot
to
talk
about,
because
composting
is
so
big
any
time
anybody
would
like
to
come
see
a
composting
site.
You
guys
can
check
us
out
on
the
other.
Part
of
this.
R
R
We
want
to
see
progressive
composting
measures
happen.
We
want
to
see
new
and
improved
systems
for
waste
and
regulations.
We
just
want
to
see
it
come
together
collaboratively
with
as
many
stakeholders
as
possible
to
make
sure
we
do
it
right.
The
first
time,
for
example,
here
in
carson
city,
a
new
regulation
was
put
in
place
to
do
residential
yard
waste
recycling.
R
We
are
the
fortunate
beneficiaries
of
getting
the
material.
R
However,
we
spend
huge
amounts
of
money
and
capital
sorting
materials
to
try
to
convert
items
into
beneficial
end
products
to
go
back
into
our
community
and
so
before,
jumping
all
in
and
and
approving
something
it
needs
to
be
looked
at
from
the
a
large
scope
of
where
and
how
it
goes.
And
then,
when
it
comes
to
going
back
to
the
farmers,
100
percent
in
support
of
farmers
being
able
to
create
their
own
sustainable
feedstocks
to
increase
nutrient
density
of
food
for
us
to
eat.
R
However,
it
just
needs
to
be
done
under
a
full
regulatory
environment
that
all
materials
going
to
certain
people
and
how
it
gets
there
is
understood,
and
then.
Lastly,
the
only
thing
that
I
would
like
to
say
up
here
in
in
northern
nevada
is
that
the
amount
of
of
time
that
we've
put
to
implement
our
current
strategies.
R
We
just
want
to
be
connected
to
the
discussion
in
southern
nevada,
because
it's
a
little
different
up
here.
We've
had
a
lot
more
progressive
movement
forward
in
northern
nevada,
with
larger
scale,
recycling
programs
using
composting
and
we're
happy
to
share
that
information
with
southern
nevada.
To
tie
this
all
together.
I
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
whit,
for
your
presentation.
I
think
we're
ready
to
move
to
questions
just
from
time
constraints.
So
if
we
have
senator
hansen,
who
has
a
question.
N
I'll
make
it
quick
thanks,
chair
well,
I'll,
tell
you
one
thing:
postings
changed
a
lot.
I
remember
when
I
was
a
boy
scout.
We
piled
up
our
grass
clippings
and
put
potato
peels
and
all
that
in,
and
that
was
my
understanding
of
compost.
N
E
Thank
you,
chair
to
you
and
through
you
to
senator
hansen
I've.
Actually
you
know
this
bill
dropped
last
wednesday
and
I
I
appreciate
the
some
of
the
representatives
from
waste
management
and
cns
waste
and
public
services
taking
a
lot
of
time
to
talk
to
me
and
I
believe,
they're
going
to
speak
later
on
the
bill
in
in
opposition,
and
I
do
want
to
reach
out
and
to
them
as
they
reached
out
to
me
and
try
to
work
on
trying
to
get
the
language
right
here.
E
You
know,
certainly
my
my
experience
coming
from
the
southern
part
of
the
state
is
that
you
know
if
I
want
to
collect
all
my
banana
peels,
my
apple
cores
and-
and
you
know
everything
else-
that's
organic
food
waste
and
I
want
to
compost
that
I
can
do
it.
But
in
the
situation
I
explained
to
you
earlier,
where
I'd
like
to
collect
it
all,
but
I'm
not
gonna.
I
just
don't
have
the
the
get
up
and
go
to
do
that.
E
I
think
my
options,
at
least
in
my
part
of
state,
are
pretty
limited
in
terms
of
trying
to
have
something
composted,
where
it's
going
to
be
turned
into
something
that
would
go
to
agriculture,
not
into
the
food
waste.
I'm
just
speaking,
that's
what
I
what
I've
learned
and
there
might
be
other
experts
with
more
information.
I
know
that
some
of
the
waste
companies
will
speak
later.
I
Thank
you,
senator
warren
shaw,
any
other
questions.
Let's
do
vice
church
hypo
and
then
we'll
do
center
go
get
you
after.
A
Thank
you
so
much.
You
know
the
only
bill.
I
love
better
than
a
bill
that
makes
recycling
easier,
is
a
bill
that
makes
recycling
mandatory.
So
I
just
wanted
to
better
understand
what
it
is
that
if
there
are,
if
there's
any
part
of
the
bill,
that
would
require
municipalities
or
jurisdictions,
companies
to
develop
these
policies
and
develop
a
plan
for
composting
or
if
it
simply
removes
a
barrier
that
currently
exists
in
the
way
of
health
and
safety
codes.
E
And
to
you,
and
through
you
chair
to
the
vice
chair,
as
I
understand
the
bill,
the
way
it
came
out
of
drafting
it
removes
barriers
to
allow
this
to
happen.
And
if
I'm
misunderstanding,
if
any
of
the
experts
want
to
jump
in,
please
please
feel
free
to
jump
in
mr
de
lee
or
dr
o'callaghan,
mr
witt.
I
we
do
have
dr
andraki,
but
he's
on
the
phone
and
we'll
speak
later.
A
B
A
country
yes
in
southern
nevada,
we
don't
have
a
food
resort,
a
west
waste
recycling
outside
of
what
we're
doing
with
the
recyclables,
but
not
food,
not
agricultural,
not
organic
waste.
We
don't
have
a
separate
stream
for
that
down
here
in
the
south.
We
have
you
know,
as
you
said,
where
there's
a
number
of
companies
that
are
working
with
composting
in
the
south,
but
we
do
not
have
anything
through,
say,
republic,
where
we're
able
to
clean
up
our
our
food
waste
or
organic.
B
I
mean
not
organic
in
the
sense
of
organic
growing,
but
organic
in
the
sense
of
it
it
having
been
alive
okay,
so
we
don't
have
that
at
this
moment,
and
I
think
that
one
of
the
things
that
what
cody
was
saying-
and
indeed
when
we're,
if
we're
going
to
get
to
a
large
scale
program,
we'll
definitely
be
incredibly
careful
about
about
potential
pathogens.
But
for
this
this
is
a
very
small
approach,
and
this
is
sort
of
like
the
the
preparation
to
a
pilot.
B
Almost
is
how
I've
been
thinking
about
this
bill,
but
it
will
permit
us,
as
I
say,
to
get
to
get
the
people
of
southern
nevada,
because
I
know
that
in
the
north
people
have
been
doing
more.
B
I
Thank
you
so
much
dr
callahan
senator
oran
shaw.
I
think
they
answered
the
question,
so
we
can
proceed
to
senator
grigorchia.
P
E
Mr
chair,
to
you
and
through
you
to
senator
gokuchiya,
that
definition
relies
on
the
that's
in
chapter
444,
which
is
our
solid
waste
statute,
but
it
refers
to
chapter
576
and
I
apologize.
I
should
have
that
in
front
of
me.
I
will
get
that
for
you
right
now.
I
I
apologize
that
I
don't
have
that
that
citation
in
front
of
me,
but,
oh
I.
N
Mr
amber
please
receive
alan
amburn
for
the
record
senator
so
these
citations
576-128.
N
Basically
that
requires
the
state
department
of
agriculture
to
adopt
regulations
that
requires
certain
persons
who
are
actual
producers
of
certain
farm
products
to
obtain
certification
as
an
actual
producer
of
farm
products.
S
I
You
thank
you
great
any
other
last
minute
questions
from
the
committee
members.
Before
we
proceed
to
testimony.
I
I
don't
see
any
all
right.
Let's
go
ahead
and
proceed
to
testimony
as
a
reminder,
we
will
be
limiting
all
testifiers
to
two
minutes.
Each
for
sb
349
testifiers
are
encouraged
to
summarize
their
positions
and
submit
more
comprehensive
testimony
in
writing.
Bps
is
there
anyone
on
the
line
wishing
to
provide
support
testimony
for
sp
349.
C
C
L
Thank
you,
mr
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record.
My
name
is
christy
cabrera,
c-h-r-I-s-p-I
c-a-b-r-e-r-a
and
I'm
the
policy
and
advocacy
director
for
the
nevada
conservation
league.
The
food
system
contributes
20
to
30
percent
of
global
climate
pollution.
We
can
reduce
that
pollution
by
expanding
urban
agriculture
farm
to
consumer
sales
and
composting.
L
Around
40
percent
of
municipal
solid
waste
is
compostable
but
is
often
thrown
in
the
trash.
It
then
ends
up
in
landfills
and
emits
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
Expanding
composting
in
our
state
can
significantly
cut
down
on
the
amount
of
trash
and
landfills,
decrease
greenhouse
gas
emission,
enrich
soil
with
nutrients
and
reduce
the
need
for
fertilizer
fertilizers
and
pesticides.
L
This
bill
will
also
allow
a
produce
at
farmers
markets
to
be
sold
without
packaging,
which
will
reduce
waste
and
reduce
costs
for
local
farmers.
Farmers,
markets
markets
increase
access
to
local,
healthy
food
while
supporting
local
businesses
and
can
reduce
the
reduced
food
miles.
We
believe
sb
349
has
many
benefits
to
our
environment
and
we
urge
the
committee's
support.
Thank
you.
C
C
C
S
My
name
is
stephen:
st
phdn
andraki
a-n-d-r-a-c-k-I,
I'm
a
medical
doctor.
I
work
in
pahrump,
I've
been
in
las
vegas
since
1989
and
my
wife
and
I
also
operate
a
small-scale
organic
farm.
We
believe
in
holistic
and
renewable
resources.
S
The
materials
that
are
discarded
is
a
great
value
to
us,
as
we
practice
organic
practices
and
that
we
want
to
continue
how
we
do
this.
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
how
it's
collected,
but
that's
a
business
model
plan
in
terms
of
biology
in
terms
of
pathogens,
e
coli,
I'll
go
toe-to-toe
with
any
microbiologist
concerning
these
issues,
because
I
treat
these
pathogens
and
well
aware
of
them
and
want
to
prevent
them
from
my
farm.
S
I
want
to
prevent
smells
rodents
pathogens
from
anything
in
our
produce
which
would
affect
our
business,
and
I
feel
that
this
is
a
safe
and
viable
way
that
we
need
to
move
to
make
this
both
not
only
the
area,
the
las
vegas
and
nevada,
but
the
world
better.
By
practicing
sustainable
organic
farming
practices,
we
will
lead
the
model
for
sustainability.
We
hope
others
will
follow
with
this.
This
needs
to
be
done.
S
We
need
to
have
sustainable
practices,
we
need
to
have
compost
and
we
need
to
have
return
on
what
we
take
into
las
vegas
to
make
this
all
happen,
and
it's
my
pleasure
to
support
that
this
will
be
passed
not
only
for
large
businesses,
but
for
small
businesses
and
all
the
people
who
wish
to
to
to
take
part
in
eating
fresh
and
organic
produce.
Thank
you.
C
I
Thank
you,
bpps.
Is
there
anyone
wishing
to
testify
in
opposition.
C
C
T
Good
evening
my
name
is
jennifer
lazovich,
that
is,
l,
a
z,
o
v
victor
ich,
and
I
am
representing
republic
services.
First
of
all,
we
want
to
thank
senator
orenshall
for
taking
the
time
to
talk
with
us
about
sb
349,
but,
as
you
mentioned
a
little
bit
earlier
in
his
testimony,
we
still
remain
opposed
to
the
bill.
Republic
services
has
franchise
agreements
with
clark,
county
city
of
las
vegas,
city
of
north
las
vegas
and
the
city
of
henderson.
These
agreements
are
negotiated
and
based
upon
what
is
included
in
the
collection
transportation
disposal
of
solid
waste.
T
Solid
waste
is
the
defined
term
that
sb
349
would
attempt
to
change.
Republic
services
employs
over
1200
people
to
service
these
local
contracts.
Given
our
franchise
agreements,
we
cannot
support
any
changes
to
the
definition
of
solid
waste,
which
would
take
solid
waste
that
is
expressly
part
of
our
franchise
agreement
and
give
it
to
another
commercial
operation.
T
One
thing
I
think
is
important
to
point
out
is:
there's
an
assumption
that
all
of
the
organic
waste
or
participle
waste
just
goes
into
our
landfill.
While
it's
true
that
we
need
some
of
that
waste
to
go
into
our
landfill,
to
keep
our
landfill
operating
and
have
the
life
span
that
it
needs
to
have
it,
may
you
may
not
know,
but
republic
services
also
uses
that
type
of
material
to
create
methane
gas.
We
do
that
out
in
our
apex
land
cell.
We
then
clean
the
methane
gas
and
turn
it
into
renewable
energy.
C
S
Good
afternoon,
chairman
donate
members
committee
for
the
record
I
am
brian
northam
n-o-r-t-h-a-m,
I'm
the
environmental
health
supervisor
of
permanent
disposal
facilities
program
at
southern
nevada,
health,
district,
southern
nevada,
health
district
appreciates
the
goal
is
to
build
increased
diversion
of
food
waste
from
the
landfills
and
decrease
the
amount
of
greenhouse
gas
emissions
generated
from
landfills
goals,
align
with
state
goals
regarding
sustainable
materials
management,
while
snhd
continues
to
review
the
bill.
Our
initial
review
finds
that
this
change
to
section
one
to
exempt
compostable
materials
from
the
definition
of
solid
waste
is
not
necessary.
S
The
operations
described
by
the
proposed
bill
are
allowed
under
existing
solid
waste
regulations,
with
a
permit.
Snhd
currently
permits
a
complex
plant
within
clark
county
that
permitted
facility
previously
operated
in
a
manner
described
by
this
bill.
Collecting
compostable
waste
in
clark
county
then
transferring
those
waste
to
a
compost
plant
outside
the
county.
That
operation
was
conducted
in
a
safe
and
sanitary
manner
in
clark
county
with
the
cell
waste
management
permit.
That
is
why
we
don't
think
the
proposed
exemption
from
solid
waste
is
necessary.
This
concludes
my
testimony
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
C
L
L
There
is
currently
nothing
in
law
or
in
our
franchise
agreements
that
prevents
a
homeowner
from
doing
composting.
I
do
composting
at
my
home
and
attempt
to
garden
in
the
las
vegas
heat,
despite
having
listened
listened
to
to
dr
o'callaghan
for
many
years.
It
is
still
quite
a
challenge,
even
with
all
of
her
advice
for
the
areas.
Waste
management
serves
the
availability
of
separate
food.
Waste
collection
varies
in
large
part
based
on.
L
If
there
is
a
processing
facility
to
bring
the
food
waste
to
in
the
reno
area,
our
franchises
do
have
the
flexibility
that
if
the
local
government
decides
to
move
towards
towards
providing
a
separate
collection
of
food
waste,
we
can
work
with
them
to
do
that.
It's
important
to
note,
though,
that
a
change
such
as
that
would
likely
require
a
rate
increase
to
all
customers
in
carson
city.
L
We
do
have
the
separate
collection
of
food
waste
as
part
of
our
franchise
if
the
customer
chooses-
and
there
is
a
processing
facility
in
carson
that
we
take
the
waste
to
the
challenge
in
this
bill
comes
from
changing
the
definition
of
waste
in
the
statute
that
will
affect
our
franchise
agreements
with
local
governments.
Those
are
arduous
agreements
to
come
to,
but
each
of
them
is
customized
to
meet
the
needs
of
the
community
served
and
we
would
encourage
the
legislature
to
maintain
that
local
control.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
C
I
Thank
you
so
much
bps
is
there
anyone
wishing
to
provide
testimony
in
neutral
on
sb
349.
C
M
Hello,
my
name
is
greg
lovato
g-r-e-g-l-o
via
victor
ato,
for
the
record
administrator
of
the
nevada
division,
environmental
protection,
testifying
neutral
on
sb
349..
M
Together,
we
regulate
the
solid
waste
management
estate,
as
also
provided
foreign
to
the
federal
resource
conservation
recovery
act,
solid
waste
program
similar
to
southern
event,
health
district.
Our
review
indicates
that
the
proposed
change
in
section
one
to
exempt
compostable
materials
from
the
statutory
definition
of
solid
waste
is
not
necessary
to
allow
the
proposed
reuse
of
these
materials.
M
We
also
look
forward
to
understanding
how
a
program
like
this
has
worked
in
other
states
and
working
with
the
bill
sponsor
to
address
our
question
about
the
proposed
exemption
and
why
it
is
necessary.
We
also
appreciate
mr
whit
suggestion
that
a
larger
discussion
among
stakeholders
will
better
support
and
prepare
nevada
to
make
progress
on
managing
food
scraps.
But
that
concludes
my
testimony.
Thank
you.
C
T
T
Thank
you.
Cns
waste
solutions
is
an
independently
owned
family
of
waste
collection,
recycling
operating
throughout
nye
county
in
perum,
beatty,
amargosa
and
inyo
county.
We
stand
in
opposition
to
seneca
349,
but
not
without
the
acknowledgement
of
bill
sponsor
senator
orrin
shaw
for
the
many
conversations
that
have
occurred
over
the
last
week
and
24
hours.
Rice,
church
scheible
you'll
be
pleased
to
know
that
cns
brought
the
first
sustainable
recycling
program
to
rural
nevada.
T
Connecting
farms
directly
with
consumers
is
a
concept
we
support.
We
support
our
customers
and
neighbors
composting
at
home.
However,
sb
349
seeks
to
change
the
definition
of
solid
waste,
which
is
in
direct
violation
of
our
franchise
agreements
within
nye.
These
franchise
agreements
were
thoughtfully,
negotiated
and
tailored
to
fit
the
needs
of
the
community
and
even
more
critically
adhered
to
the
obligations
under
nrs
444.
T
The
statute
governing
solid
waste,
substantial
investment
and
infrastructure
also
accompany
these
franchise
agreements.
Speak
349
would
undermine
these
local
contracts
and
we
believe
the
local
jurisdictions
are
best
positioned
to
customize
waste
solutions
for
their
community's
needs.
Carving
out
compostable
material
from
the
solid
waste
definition
would
allow
a
potentially
foreign,
unlicensed
and
unregulated
commercial
operator
to
haul
this
material
in
turn,
charging
customers
and
diverting
the
waste
stream
without
any
oversight
or
regulatory
authorization.
T
C
I
Thank
you
so
much
bps
last
minute
remarks
from
senator
orrinshaw
before
we
close
this
hearing.
E
E
I
believe
this
bill
has
so
much
potential
and
can
really
increase
recycling
and
composting
of
food
waste
here
in
nevada.
I
respect
the
position
of
all
the
stakeholders.
Our
trash
collectors
have
been
the
front
line
workers
during
the
pandemic
and
have
gone
above
and
beyond
to
make
sure
that
we
were
protected
back
when
everything
shut
down.
People
were
scared
to
leave
their
homes.
E
I
completely
respect
what
they
do
to
keep
us
safe
and
protect
us,
and
I
believe
that
there
is
a
way
to
increase
a
recycling
and
composting
of
food
waste
so
that
it
can
be
used
in
agriculture,
and
I
want
to
work
with
those
companies
and
I
believe
that
there's
there's
common
ground
we
can
find.
I
want
to
certainly
thank
dr
o'callaghan
and
mr
dele
and
everyone
else
who
presented
and
and
and
cody
whitt
and
dr
andraki
jessica
clark,
and
I
I
I
hope
that
we
can
find
some
common
ground.
I
Thank
you
senator
for
helping
us
present
these
two
bills
and
we
look
forward
to
seeing
you
on
thursday,
so
I
will
go
ahead
and
close
the
hearing
on
sb
349.
again.
The
committee
will
not
be
taking
any
action
on
this
bill
today,
but
it
may
bring
you
back
for
a
future
work
session.
Let's
go
ahead
and
proceed
to
public
comment
before
we
close
out.
I
will
now
go
ahead
and
call
for
public
comment.
Please
remember
to
limit
your
two,
your
comments
to
two
minutes:
bps
staff.
Is
there
any
public
comment.
C
I
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
bps.
Is
there
any
last
minute
comments
from
any
of
the
committee
members?
I
know
this
is
a
pretty
long
meeting,
so
I
just
want
to
give
you
the
chance
to
say
anything
before
we
close
out.
I
don't
see
anything
all
right.
Our
next
meeting
is
on
thursday
april
1st
and
we
will
be
returning
to
our
regular
time
at
3
30
p.m.
Thank
you
so
much
to
the
committee
members
and
to
senator
orrin
shaw
for
helping
us
present
today.
This
meeting
is
now
a
trend.
Thank
you.