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A
A
Here
senator
hanson
here
senator
scheible
here,
chair,
donate-
and
I
am
here
thank
you-
welcome
everyone
to
the
senate
committee
on
natural
resources
now
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anyone
who
has
not
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B
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manager.
At
the
committee
email
listed
on
the
agenda
today,
the
committee
will
be
hearing
the
work
session
on
sjr3
and
sbr
10,
and
then
we
will
proceed
with
hearing
with
the
hearing
on
sb
344.
G
I
would
like
to
remind
everyone
that
we
will
not
be
taking
testimony
at
the
work
session.
However,
I
may
call
on
someone
as
necessary
to
answer
questions
from
committee
members.
We
will
go
ahead
and
begin
with
senate
joint
resolution,
3,
which
urges
congress
to
provide
funding
to
reduce
the
wild
horse
and
rural
populations
to
appropriate
management
levels.
First,
I
would
like
to
point
out
that,
in
addition
to
the
work
session
document,
an
amendment
received
by
the
american
wild
horse
campaign
has
been
uploaded
to
nellis
this
afternoon.
G
H
And
as
lcb
staff,
I
can
either
advocate
for
or
oppose
legislation,
but
I
will
be
walking
you
through
senate
joint
resolution
and
senate
joint
resolution,
10,
sorry,
3
and
10..
The
centroid
joint
resolution
3
urges
the
united
states
congress
to
provide
funding
to
reduce
the
wild
force
and
borough
populations
to
appropriate
management
levels.
The
wild
free-roaming
horses
and
burrows
act
of
1971.
F
B
B
B
This
was,
as
the
chair
just
explained,
provided
by
the
american
wild
horse
campaign
and
it
amends
the
language
in
the
resolved
by
the
senate
and
assembly
of
the
state
of
nevada,
jointly
that
statement
that
the
members
of
the
81st
session
of
the
nevada
legislature
support
the
instead
of
all
of
that
language
referencing.
The
blm's
2020
report
is
stricken.
F
And
replaced
with
support
the
humane
and
science-based
management
of
nevada's,
wild
free-roaming
horse
and
burro
populations,
and
then
again
in
the
next
paragraph,
where
it
starts
resolved
that,
given
the
impacts
of
excess,
free
roaming,
horses
and
burrows
on
our
fragile
great
basin
and
mojave
ecosystems,
the
members
of
the
81st
session
of
the
nevada
legislature
support
reducing
excess
free
roaming,
horses
and
burrows,
and
then
that
language
is
stricken
where
it
now
says
using
non-lethal
means
and
prioritizing
humane
fertility
control.
As
recommended.
I
By
the
national
academy
of
sciences
and
then
again,
the
within
six
years
is
stricken.
Those
are
the
only
changes
proposed
with
this
amendment.
Thank
you,
chair.
Thank
you,
miss
rudy,
any
questions
for
miss
rudy
at
this
time,
senator
hansen.
I
Actually
it's
not
for
miss
rudy.
You
want
me
to
wait,
mr
chair
yeah.
If
you
would
like
to
forward,
we
can
proceed
once
we
make
the
motion.
If
you're
look,
are
you
looking
for
a
discussion
before
we
proceed
to
them?
Well?
Well,
yeah!
Actually,
honestly,
I
just
got
to
read
the
amendments.
You
know
just
got
dropped
so
and
frankly,
some
folks
that
I
have
a
great
deal
of
confidence
in
are
highly
worried
about
the
amendment.
K
Thank
you
senator
hanson.
Do
we
have
any
other
questions
from
any
other
committee
members
at
this
time.
K
Okay,
if
you
has
one
minute
reset,
please.
K
K
Thank
you
so
much
senator
hansen
to
address
your
concerns.
After
reviewing
the
amendment,
I
think
that
I
would
be
comfortable
with
moving
forward
with
that.
I
do
want
to
mention
really
quickly
that
the
amendment
came
and
proposed
in
collaboration
with
the
american
wild
horse
campaign,
but
also
with
representative
titus's
office.
There
is
a
campaign
already
to
help
support
the
prioritization
of
fertility
control
which,
as
we
know,
would
be
helpful
to
solve
some
of
the
concerns
that
we're
seeing
right
now.
So
I
would
ask
that
we
can
prob
that
we
can.
K
I
would
ask
my
members
at
this
time,
for
a
motion
for
amend
do
pass.
So
do
I
have
that
senator
senator
brooks
had
questions
here?
Oh
senator
brooks
thank
you
chair
donate
and
I,
while
I
really
think
that
it
was
a
more
effective
bill
or
sent
a
more
effective
language
unamended,
and
I
think
that
there's
many
methods
that
we
should
be
using
as
a
nation
and
an
estate
to
help
manage
these
numbers.
I
also
understand
the
realities
of
how
negotiations
work
and
there's
very
advocate.
K
There's
very
passionate
advocates
on
on
on
both
sides
of
this
issue,
and
so
I
I
will
support
the
moving
forward
of
this
as
amended,
but
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
I
put
on
the
record
that
I
thought
it
was
just
fine
how
it
was
and-
and
I
reserved
my
my
right
to
change
my
mind,
but
I
I
definitely
want
to
see
it
move
forward
and
keep
keep
it
keep
it
going.
K
So
I
I
I
will
be
supporting
it
as
amended,
but
I
might
be
talking
to
you
later.
K
Thank
you
senator
brooks.
Do
we
have
any
questions
or
do
we
have
any
motions
at
this
time
I
have
a
motion
chair
to
amend
and
do
pass.
I
have
read
the
amendment
thoroughly
and
I
do
believe
that
it
is
better
policy
than
what
was
put
forth
in
the
original
bill
or
the
original
resolution.
I.
L
Understand
the
changes
that
it
makes
and
that
it
utilizes
a
different
benchmark
and
a
different
scientific
tool
to
determine
or
encourages
congress
to
use
a
different
scientific
tool
to
manage
wildforce
populations.
I
think
it
is
a
more
humane
tool.
That's
why
I
prefer
it,
and
so
I
will
make
a
motion
to
amend
and
do
thank
you
vice
church
tribal.
So
we
have
a
motion
to
amend
and
do
past.
Do
we
have
a
second.
L
We
have
us
seconded
from
senator
brooks:
do
we
have
any
questions
or
discussion?
Senator
gregory?
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
I
hope
my
mic
is
working
okay
or
do
I
need
done
mute?
Are
you
hearing
me
fine?
Okay
and
again,
I
will
support
to
measure
to
get
it
out
of
here.
You
know
we
need
to
get
it
moving,
I'm.
Hopefully
we
can
get
some
of
this
fixed
when
we
get
to
the
assembly
side.
My
real
concern
is
not
addressing
the
the
fertility
control.
Clearly,
there
are
mechanisms
in
place
that
needs
to
happen.
L
We've
got
to
understand
that
we've
got
50
000
head
of
horses,
you're
not
going
to
reduce
them
by
with
fertility
control.
Some
of
these
horses
have
to
come
on
off
to
get
to
that
level,
where
you
can
main
maintain
a
sustainable
population
and
the
other
thing
that
really
concerns
me.
They
took
the
language
out
in
this
amendment,
which
is
the
the
bureau
of
land
management's,
2020
report
to
congress.
This
was
all
hinged
on
this.
The
humane
society
and
everybody
came
together
and
supplied
that
report
to
congress,
and
we
took
it
out.
L
L
Thank
you
senator
gregory,
mr
chair
and
your
handsome
just
just
to
comment
on
the
discussion
on
the
motion.
I'm
gonna
kind
of
take
the
opposite
approach
to
senator
copeland
yeah,
I'm
gonna
vote.
No,
I
mean
we.
We
discussed
this
at
length
of
public
lands
and
they
they
had
also.
It
was
unanimous,
though
the
whole
thing
that
senator
gokuchiya
said
is
based
around
the
2020
blm
report.
L
Now
we're
taking
that
out
of
this
I
mean
it
essentially
changes
it.
I
do
completely
support
the
concept
of
the
idea
going
forward.
I
mean
this
is
just
a
resolution
to
congress.
I
understand,
and
I
know
that
those
frankly
don't
carry
much
weight
in
congress,
but
I,
but
I
am
a
little
concerned
because
public
lands
did
have
a
great
deal
of
in-depth
discussions
about
it.
It
was
unanimous
and
now
we're
kind
of
at
the
very
last
second
doing,
a
change
based
apparently
on
on
congresswoman
titus.
L
As
a
opposition,
I
mean
I
didn't
hear
her
testify
ever
on
public
land,
so
I'm
very
concerned
that
that
the
legislature
would
essentially
cave
what
has
been
a
long,
drawn-out
process
at
the
very
last
second
to
please
somebody
that
didn't
get
involved
at
all
from
the
get-go,
so
I'll
be
I'll.
Be
a
no
thank
you
chair.
L
Thank
you.
Senator
hansen,
any
other
remarks
before
we
proceed
and
I
do
just
really
want
to
quickly
mention
that
I
did
contact
and
spoke
with
senator
parks
about
this
proposed
amendment,
and
he
was
fine,
as
is
so.
I
hope
that
eases
some
of
the
concerns
that
we
have
heard,
but
I
do
agree
with
some
of
the
sentiments
that
have
been
faced,
and
I
do
think
that
for
this
situation
we
do
have
to
leave.
J
With
science
and
that
vaccine
time,
so
hopefully
that's
something
that
retains
the
conversation
throughout
these
next
few
years.
So
let's
go
ahead
and
if
the
secretary
can
please
proceed
to
call
the
role
there
will
pop
up
senator
brooks
yes
senator
goykichia,
yes,
senator
hanson,
no
senator
scheible.
J
Yes,
chair
donate-
and
I
am
a
yes
motion-
carries
thank
you.
Miss
rudy,
please
proceed
with
senate
joining
resolution,
10,
which
and
before
I
proceed
with
that,
I
will
go
ahead
and
take
care
of
the
floor
statement
on
svr3.
Miss
rudy.
Please
proceed
with
senate
joint
resolution,
10
which
urges
congress
to
protect
the
public
lands,
including
the
adjacent
to
sunrise,
mountain
frenchman,
mountain
and
rainbow
gardens.
J
Thank
you,
chair
donate.
This
is
jennifer
rudy
committee
policy,
analyst
senate
joint
resolution.
10
does
not
have
any
amendments
on
it.
It
urges
the
united
states
congress
to
protect
the
public
lands,
including
an
adjacent
sunrise,
mountain
frenchman,
mountain
and
rainbow
gardens
in
clark
county.
Several
plant
species
that
have
received
special
status,
designation
by
the
bureau
of
land
management
are
found
on
these
public
lands
and
many
nevada
residents
enjoy
the
natural
desert
landscape
and
the
outdoor
recreational
opportunities
of
the
area.
J
The
measure
urges
congress
to
designate
the
specified
lands
for
federal
protection,
which
may
include
without
limitation,
designating
all
or
portions
of
the
area
as
a
national
conservation
area,
national
recreation
area
or
national
monument,
or
applying
other
federal
protections
that
congress
deems
appropriate
for
these
important
and
scenic
lands.
There
were
no
amendments
again.
Thank
you.
J
J
Senator
thank
you.
Chair,
donate,
no
questions.
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
how
much
I
enjoyed
the
bill
presentation
and
how
educational
it
was,
and
just
really
good
to
see
those
advocates
and
and
learn
so
much
about
something.
That's
in
right
down
the
street
from
my
house,
you
know
and
and
what
a
resource
that
I
didn't
even
realize
existed
right
right
in
my
own
community.
So
thank
you
for
for
the
hearing
and
bringing
this
bill
forward.
J
Thank
you
senator
brooks,
and
I
think
we
got
a
motion
from
senator
gurkichia
to
do
past.
Str10.
Do
I
have
a
second
dude?
Second,
second,
from
senator
hansen.
Thank
you,
sir
any
questions
or
any
discussion
on
the
motion.
J
Seeing
that,
while
the
secretary,
please
call
the
roll
call
vote,
senator
brooks
yes,
senator
koikichia,
yes,
senator
hanson,
yes,
senator
scheible,
yes,
chair
danate,
and
I
am
a
yes
and
if
it's
okay,
I'm
gonna,
go
ahead
and
assign
this
floor
statement
to
senator
brooks,
but
that's
good.
Thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you
all
right.
Let
me
pull
back
my
notes
or
actually
sorry
I'll
I'll,
give
the
floor
statement
to
senator
orange
hall
who
will
handle
sbr
10.
sorry
about
that
center
brooks.
Thank
you
committee.
All
right.
M
I
believe
we
have
at
least
four
pres
presenters
today
for
sb
344.
We
have
senator
owen,
shaw,
warren
hardy,
jeff,
dixon
and
lisa
wayne,
so
sandra
orange.
All
please
proceed
when
you
are.
M
M
M
There,
okay
you're
ready
all
right.
Good
luck!
Thank
you,
members
of
the
senate
natural
resources
committee.
Again,
I'm
sorry.
I
think
we've
resolved
the
problem.
Sorry
about
that
all
right,
bps
we're
ready
to
go
back
from
recess
you're
good
to
go.
M
Thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you.
Senator
orrinshaw
please
proceed.
Thank
you
good
afternoon,
sheridan
members
of
the
senate
committee
on
natural
resources.
For
the
record,
my
name
is
james
orenshaw.
I
represent
state
senate
district
21,
that's
parts
of
henderson
and
unincorporated
clark
county.
Thank
you
for
hearing
senate
bill
344.
Today
many
of
you
may
remember
hearing
about
an
incident
in
central
ohio
nearly
a
decade
ago
when
someone
alerted
law
enforcement
of
a
fully
grown
male
lion
on
his
property.
M
B
A
A
L
J
Exceptions,
these
laws
may
prohibit
the
ownership
of
wild
or
exotic
animals
as
pets,
or
only
allow
those
animals
to
be
kept
under
certain
licenses.
Another
13
states
have
partial
bans
on
exotic
pets,
which
means
these
states
prohibit
specific
animal
species
listed
by
statute
as
to
private
ownership.
J
Meanwhile,
14
states
permit
private
ownership
of
exotic
animals
under
a
licensure
or
a
permit
model.
Those
seeking
licenses
might
need
to
register
with
the
state
or
local
government
and
prove
satisfactory
conditions
for
the
keeping
of
such
animals
pay
a
fee
or
maintain
liability.
Insurance
nevada,
like
four
other
states,
has
very
few
provisions
and
oversight
regarding
exotic
and
dangerous
animals
care
donate
members
of
the
committee.
I
believe
that
senate
bill.
A
B
B
A
For
its
enactment,
there
are
other
stakeholders
that
we
are
working
with,
and
I
believe
that
there
will
be
some
amendments
that
need
to
be
added
to
the
bill.
But
the
bottom
line
is
that
exotic
animals
are
inherently
dangerous
and
I
don't
think
any
of
us
want
our
law
enforcement
officers,
firefighters
or
other
first
responders
to
encounter
a
situation
like
what
happened
in
ohio.
A
Be
true
that
does
not
mean
that
the
next
owner
will
be
a
responsible
owner
to
one
of
these
exotic
or
dangerous
animals.
Nor
does
it
mean
that
his
or
her
neighbor
knows
what
an
animal
in
the
home
next
door
that
is
properly
secured
and
won't
get
out
exotic
dangerous
animal
living
in
your
neighborhood
is
like
a
ticking
time
bomb.
It's
not
a
question
of
if
someone's
going
to
be
hurt,
but
when,
of
course,
we
should
all
be
concerned
about
the
welfare
of
these
animals.
L
This
bill
protects
the
good
work
of
our
animal
shelters
and
rescue
centers
allows
for
the
ownership
of
these
animals
by
properly
licensed
exhibitors
and
permits
ownership
for
possession
by
the
department
of
wildlife
and
certain
licensed
veterinarians.
Finally,
it
is
important
to
note
that
this
bill
does
not
completely
remove
exotic
animals
from
private
homes.
Rather,
these
owners
are
grandfathered
in
as
long
as
they
meet
minimum
requirements.
L
L
A
Chairman
members
of
the
committee
warren
hardy,
representing
the
humane
society
of
the
united
states,
I
want
to
thank
you
and
the
committee
for
being
your
willingness
to
hear
this
important
piece
of
legislation
again.
L
B
Issue
before
so,
we
look
forward
to
his
participation.
I
I
especially
want
to
thank
my
senator
senator
orrin
shall
for
for
bringing
this
legislation.
N
Forward,
I'm
delighted
to
be
a
part
of
his
district,
so
this
issue,
as
I
indicated
before,
has
been
before
the
legislature.
L
A
number
of
times
we've
fine-tuned
it.
We
worked
hard
on
it.
We
when
we
first
started
this
a
couple
of
sessions
ago.
We
called
it
the
tiger
and
the
basement
law,
and
then
something
happened
or
something
was
produced
called
the
tiger
king.
So
I
think
maybe
we'll
start
calling
the
tiger
king
bill,
because
I
I
think
that
more
than
anything
that
illustrates
the
reason
for
this
bill
and
and
and
there's
been
other
documentaries
that
have
shown
the
incident
in
ohio
that
senator
oranshaw's
talking
about
here.
L
So,
mr
chairman,
we've
worked
very
hard
with
the
stakeholders.
We've
spent
a
lot
of
time
with
both
state
and
local
law
enforcement,
with
the
department
of
wildlife.
J
N
J
So
after
all
these
years,
mr
chairman,
we
we
have
this
bill
fine-tuned,
it's
absolutely
perfect
and
ready
for
presentation,
except
for
the
amendment
we're
preparing.
So
I
guess
I
should
never
say
that
this
is
ever
going
to
be
perfect,
but
we,
as
recently
as
this
morning
we
met.
N
B
On
that
and
we'll
move
quickly
to
to
get
that
to
the
committee,
there's
also
a.
H
H
We
know
why
it's
in
there
and
are
going
to
work
towards
removing
that,
because
that's
not
been
in
in
there
in
the
past
and
as
senator
orrinshaw
pointed
out
for
me,
you
know
one
of
the
most
important
things
going
on
in
this
legislation
is
the
fact
that
nevada
has
the
weakest
laws
with
regard
to
the
these
these
animals
in
the
in
the
in
the
united
states,
certainly
in
the
in
the
western
united
states,
and
as
a
result
of
that,
when
that
happens,
we've
seen
this
on
other
issues
we've
dealt
with.
J
J
J
Is
my
audio
working
okay,
okay,
good
afternoon,
mr
chair,
madam
vice
chair
and
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
lisa
watney
and
I
am
manager
of
captive
wildlife
protection
for
the
humane
society
of
the
united
states.
Thank
you
for
hearing
senate
bill
344
and
for
the
opportunity
to
provide
our
comments
in
support
of
the
bill.
H
J
Wild
animals,
as
senator
ornschel,
said,
keeping
dangerous
wild
animals
as
pets
puts
communities
and
first
responders
at
risk.
It
often
has
devastating
animal
welfare
consequences
and
it's
detrimental
to
legitimate
conservation
efforts.
Yet
nevada
is
one
of
the
very
few
states
that
has
virtually
no
laws.
Regarding
this
issue
again,
it's
important
to
note
that
the
bill
does
have
a
grandfather
clause.
J
J
E
C
A
The
show's
intent
it
did
raise
awareness
about
the
plight
of
captive,
big
cats.
A
E
Suffering
associated
with
a
practice
called
cub
petty.
It
also
highlighted
why
sb.
A
Address
this
issue,
it
doesn't
go
quite
as.
N
If
it
passes
you're
not
going
to
see
people
who
had
previous
violations
interacting
with
these
animals,
the
reason
there
are
so
many
big
cats,
especially
tigers
in
the
hands
of
unqualified
individuals
in
the
u.s.
It's
because
of
a
practice
called
cup
petting
cup
heading
programs
provide
baby
big
cats,
usually
tigers
for
the
public
to
feed
play
pet
and
pose
with
for
years.
This
has
been
a
common
practice
at
roadside
zoos
and
exhibitors
who
haul
the.
B
J
Of
which
is
that
the
cubs
are
taken
away
from
their
mothers
at
birth
and
can
only
be
used
for
public
handling
until
they
get.
They
are
three
or
four
months
old.
After
that,
you
know
they
can
age
out,
and
the
cast
offs
are
often
sent
to
substandard
facilities
or
into
the
pet
trade.
B
Regulations
of
the
federal
animal
welfare
act,
which
was
written
decades
ago
and
does
not
incorporate
modern
zoological
industry
standards
will
also
advance
animal
welfare
and
public
safety
in
nevada.
So
it
interrupts
the
cub
heading
industry
and
practice
and
provides
continuity
for
most
some
very
reasonable
asked
in
the
interests
of
both
animal
welfare
and
public
safety.
And
for
those
reasons
we
ask
you
to
enact
the
bill
thanks.
B
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
dixon,
for
that
comment,
mr
hardy.
I
believe
we're
ready
for
some
questions
so.
B
Like
warren
warren,
great
to
see
you
again,
jeff
nice
to
see
you
lisa,
I
haven't
met
you,
but
thank
you
for
your
presentation
today,
a
little
bit
of
days,
all
blue,
since
we
had
almost
the
exact
bill
last
session,
a
couple
of
questions,
one
you
guys
mentioned
a
dozen
years
ago
in
ohio.
He
had
that
situation.
F
C
Southern
nevada
that
the
the
the
animals
had
the
animal
I
think
one
of
them
or
was-
was
had
to
be
terminated
and
all
of
it
are
by
their
colleagues.
I
know
there
are
issues
we
have
had
other
issues
but
I'll
open
it
up
to
my
colleagues
to
to
expand.
C
There
we'd
be
happy
to
provide
you
with
the
list
of
incidents
that
have
taken
place
in
nevada.
There
have,
thankfully,
not
been
any
on
the
scale
of
what
happened
in
in
zanesville
and
probably
the
mo
well.
No,
the
most
recent
dramatic
one
is
the
chimpanzee.
F
Incident
two
chimps
escaped
in
las
vegas
and
one
was
shot
and
killed.
There
have
been
incidents
with
a
tiger
in
somebody's
backyard,
who
a
neighbor
called
about
and
was
ultimately
confiscated
and
some
big
cats
being
confiscated
from
some
pretty
miserable
conditions.
Also,
I
think
in
pahrump,
but
we.
I
Can
get
you
the
the
list
of
incidents
that
we
have
and
be
happy?
I
would
like
to
say
and
sorry
to
interrupt
that
was
misleading
lisa
wadney.
Just
for
the
record.
Oh
I'm
sorry,
and
then
I
am
one
more
question
for
jeff.
Jeffrey
is
still
there.
I
Yes,
sir,
are
you
guys
a
lot
of
the
things
you
just
listed
off
about
this
kind
of
trade
you
used
to
you
guys
used
to
all
say
that
say
the
exact
same
thing,
basically
about
the
rodeo
industry.
Does
the
humane
society
yourself
a
position
of
outlying
rodeo.
F
This
is
jeff
dixon
for
the
record.
I
don't.
I
would
have
to
look
up
what
our
position
is
on
the
rodeo,
but
we're
not.
We
don't
have
an
active
camp
rodeo
campaign
if
we
do
have
one.
This
is
we're.
Our
our
focus
is
on
the
absolute
worst
practices
that
are
being
done
to
animals,
and
this
is
our
focus
today.
F
Okay,
I
got
it
just
traditionally,
you
guys
were.
I
actually
admired
the
fact
you
guys
were
consistent.
I
mean
even
peta.
Obviously
I'm
not
a
big
fan,
but.
B
I
always
admired
the
fact
that
they
were
consistent.
You
know
if
it's
animal
cruelty,
to
have
a
rodeo
or
to
have
exotic
pets
that
you
can
pat
or.
F
Whatever
they,
they
were
consistent,
so
I
admire
that.
So
I
do
know
you
guys
did
have
a
policy
of
that
for
a
long
time
so
well.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
chair
donati.
F
G
F
Be
honest
that
when
I
took
this
client
on
several
years
ago,
I
took
them
on
for
this
issue
only
because
it
was
something
I
completely
agreed
in
agreed
on,
but
I
was
a
little
nervous
about
whether
my
interests
across
the
board
would
lie,
would
align
with
theirs,
and
I
can
tell
you
I
have.
I
have
found
this
organization
to
be
nothing
but
reasonable,
thoughtful
conscience
of
all
the
all
the
the
sporting
activities.
D
D
D
I
I
haven't
checked
on
that
senator,
but
we
haven't
got
any
modifications.
D
Thank
you,
senator
hansen
and
mr
hardy
for
that
comment.
Any
questions
from
the
committee
members
at
this
time
before
we
proceed
vice
versa.
I
will
yes.
Thank
you.
I
am
curious
where
the
enumerated
list
came
from
of
the
dangerous
wild
animals
that
are
included
in
this
bill.
D
But
that
that
list
warren
hardy
again
for
the
record,
mr
chairman,
that
list
has
been
developed
frankly
over
the
course
of
the
past
several
years,
and
I
think
it's
important
to
understand
that
animals
are
on
that
list
that
are
not
only
physically
physically
dangerous,
but
also
can
spread
disease
and
that
and
that
sort
of
thing,
but
that
that
list
was
a
lot
larger
when
we
started,
but
we
have,
we
have
reduced
it
down
to
what
we
would
call
the
most
dangerous
of
the
dangerous
and
I
apologize
to
miss
watney
for
interrupting,
but
I'll
allow
her
to
if
it's
okay
with
the
chair
to
respond
as
well.
D
No,
this
is
lisa
watney
with
the
humane
society
of
the
united
states
and
and
warren
answered
that
that's
that's
it.
I'm
specifically
curious
why
there
are
no
reptiles
on
the
list.
D
Lisa
watney,
with
the
humane
society
of
the
united
states,
we
did
inc
originally
include
reptiles
on
the
list.
That
was
done
in
error
because,
as
the
nevada
department
of
wildlife
pointed
out
to
us,
the
reptiles
that
we
had
included
were
already
banned
or
prohibited
by
state
law.
So
there
was
no
need
for
them
to
be
in
the
bill
and
out
out
they
came
okay.
I
didn't
realize
that
I
think
that's
my
only
question.
Thank
you.
D
D
This
is
the
third
time
I've
I've
heard
this
bill,
and
but
I
I
have
a
question:
is
there
anything
in
here
that
would
get
in
the
way
or
or
make
it
impos
for
film
companies
professional
film
companies
that
would
be
filming
in
nevada
to
to
have
any
of
these
protected
animals
if
they
were
properly
licensed
and
all
that
is
there
anything
in
here
that
would
keep
a
film
company
from.
C
B
It
I
I
can
answer
that
lisa
watney
with
the
humane
society
of
the
united
states.
F
C
C
They
will
have
no
trouble
at
all
in
making
movies
or
any
other
kind
of
filming
with
this
specific
list
of
animals,
and
if
I
may
follow
up
is
so
you
know,
there's
some
big
film
making
states
in
in
the
united
states
like
california,
and
georgia's
is
becoming
a
big
one,
and
do
they
have
the
the
same
types
of
standards
in
place.
California
is
an
example,
you
know
hollywood.
Do
they
have
the
same
standards
in
place
that
you're
proposing
in
this
bill?
C
It's
it's
all
over
the
map.
As
far
as
I
wish,
regulations
and
laws
were
consistent
across
the
u.s
they
aren't.
I
would
need
to
look
at
california's
law
closely
to
answer
that
question
and
I'd
be
happy
to
do
that
and
get
back
to
you.
Some
places
contain
a
specific
exemption
for
movie.
You
know
production
companies,
even
though
it
isn't
necessary
because
of
the
usda
exemption
they
they
have
done
that
just
to
feel
I
guess
extra
sure
that
the
movie
protection
companies
weren't
going
to
be
affected.
C
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that,
if
I
could
add
to
that
mr
chair,
I
was
we'll,
certainly
get
that
information
back
to
you,
senator
because
it's
an
important
question
for
nevada
and-
and
these
are
the
kinds
of
questions
we
feel
that
because
of
the
the
gaming
industry
as
well,
we're
very
unique
in
that
regard.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
do
anything
to
interfere
with
that.
C
All
I
would
add
to
that.
Mr
chair
is
what
we're
doing
with
this
legislation
is
going
to
going
from
essentially
no
law
to
what
I
would
categorize
categorizes,
a
very
weak
law,
but
it's
something
and
it's
a
start,
and
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
what
we
do
going
forward
doesn't
impact
the
good
actors
in
the
gaming
industry
and
the.
C
B
F
I
think
I
know
the
answer,
but
on
a
number
of
these
species
it
says
that
have
been
bred
in
captivity.
I
assume
that's
because
you
it's
illegal
to
olden
a
wild
mountain
lion
or
a
black
bear
that
is
truly
wild,
but
then
so
it
has
in
here
they
have
been
that
it's
illegal
to
own
one
that
has
been
bred
in
captivity.
F
Q
Q
Q
Q
I
don't
see
any
so.
Oh
bystar
scheible.
I
do
and
I'm
sorry
I
had
this
question
earlier
and
I
forgot
to
ask
it
it's
very
specific,
but
in
section
six
on
page
three,
we
have
a
definitive
a
definition
of
law
enforcement
officer
that
I
don't
think
matches
all
of
the
other
definitions
of
law
enforcement
officer
in
the
nrs.
I'm
just
wondering
if
that's
on
purpose,
because
we're
talking
about
wild
animals
or
if
this
might
be
something
that
we
could
bring
into
compliance
with
the
rest
of
statue.
Q
Thank
you.
Vice
church
tribal,
mr
hardy,
if
you
want-
or
anyone
can
answer
that,
but
also
we
also
have
a
legal
counsel
who
need
to
miss
watney,
yeah,
elisa
watney,
with
the
humane
society
of
the
united
states.
This
definition
of
law
enforcement
officer
was
drafted
by
nevada
department
of
wildlife.
Q
We
had
it
was
a
little
bit
different
last
year
and
this
these,
how
it
appears
now
reflects
the
changes
that
were
requested
by
endow.
Okay.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
any
last
minute
question
senator
hanson
thanks
chair.
Actually,
I
just
wanted
to
help
jeff
out
I
looked
it
up.
The
position
of
the
humane
society
of
the
united
states
is
quote.
Q
The
humane
society
opposes
rodeos,
as
they
are
commonly
organized,
since
they
typically
cause
torment
and
stress
to
animals,
expose
them
to
pain,
injury
or
even
death,
and
encourage
an
insensitivity
to
an
acceptance
of
the
inhumane
treatment
of
animals
in
the
name
of
sport.
So
just
want
to
get
that's
on
the
record
chair
thanks.
Thank
you
senator
hanson.
For
that
clarification,
all
right,
I
don't
see
any
other
last-minute
questions.
So
let's
go
ahead
and.
F
Proceed
to
testimony
before
we
go
to
the
phone
lines,
I
just
want
to
comment
that,
while
I
wasn't
here
in
2017,
I
see
that
this
build
very
simply
similar
to
assembly
bill
238
of
the
2017
session.
That
was
sponsored
by
then
assemblywoman
leslie
cohen,.
F
B
Just
want
to
mention
that,
as
a
reminder,
we
will
be
limiting
all
testifiers
to
two
minutes.
Each
testifiers
are
encouraged
to
summarize
their
positions
and
submit
more.
F
Comprehensive
testimony
in
writing.
Bps
is
there
anyone
on
the
line
wishing
to
provide
support
testimony
for
sb
34
344
at
this
time?
F
And
bps
before
we
proceed,
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that
we
will
be
limiting
testimony
to
30
minutes
on
each
segment
and
I
strongly
encourage
people
to
stick
to
the
two
minutes,
because
I
will
cut
them
off
and
if
they
want
to
go
beyond
that,
then
they
are
more
than
welcome
to
send.
R
Us
testimony
in
writing
so
please
proceed.
R
R
H-A-R-R-I-S-O-N
representing
clark
county
we're
here
today
in
support
of
sp
344,
as
this
builds
upon
the
county's
current
ordinances
regulating
exotic
and
wild
animals,
found
in
chapter
10.18
of
clark,
county
code,
we'd
like
to
thank
senator
orenshaw
for
bringing
the
bill
forward,
and
we
would
urge
your
support.
Thank
you.
R
R
Y
k-a-r-e-n-l-a-y-e
e
former
president
of
the
las
vegas
valley,
humane
society,
which
is
a
separate
entity
from
hsus.
I
might
want
to
point
that
out.
I
we
just
want
to
indicate
our
support
of
this
bill
and
certainly
do
hope
that
this
committee
will
pass
this
out
of
committee
as
since
this
has
been
heard
many
times
during
these
sessions.
Thank
you.
So
much.
R
F
S
S
S
Hello,
my
name
is
linda
sugata
and
I'm
the
founder
and
director
of
safe
haven
wildlife
sanctuary
in
inlay
nevada.
I
am
supporting
fb3444
to
restrict
the
private
possession
of
dangerous
wild
animals.
I
am
here
to
offer
my
organizations
full
support
for
this
bill.
In
addition
to
rescue
and
rehabilitation
of
indigenous
wildlife,
we
provide
permanent
placement
for
wildlife
wild
animals
in
need.
We
respond
to
requests
for
assistance
from
state
and
federal
agencies,
law
enforcement,
veterinarians
and
citizens.
F
To
33
exotic
cats,
ranging
from
25
pound
bobcats
to
500,
pound
tigers
and
african
lions,
all
that
were
former
pets
safe
haven
takes
our
role
as
a
sanctuary
very
seriously.
We
are
accredited
by
the
global
federation
of
animal
sanctuaries,
an
organization
whose
goal
is
to
validate
sanctuary
sustainability,
as
well
as
to
ensure
the
highest
standards
of
animal
care
and
safety.
We
do
not
breed
buy,
sell
or
trade
any
of
the
animals
place
in
our
facility,
nor
are
our
animals
for
hire.
I
Our
no
contact
policy
ensures
the
safety
for
our
staff
and
animals.
We
care
for
everyday
people
yield
to
the
temptation
to
purchase
a
big
cat
or
other
on
unusual
non-native
species
and
then
quickly
discover
that
they
are
ill-equipped
to
provide
for
the
animals
needs.
The
outcome
is
really
good
for
the
animals,
many
of
whom
have
been
abandoned,
killed.
I
And
then
suffering
for
miserable
and
unsafe
conditions
in
backyard
cages
are
confiscated
by
authorities.
The
life
of
cruelty
abuse
and
neglect
that
is
endured
by
many
exotic
pets
is
tragically
illustrated
by
one
of
our
residents.
White
tiger
clarence,
who
had
been
previously
owned
in
rural
ohio,
clarence
clarence's
owner,
had
moved
him
into
a
small
20
by
30
foot
cage
shared
with
three
other
tigers,
one
who
attacked
him
not
knowing
what
to
do
with
him.
I
The
private
ownership
of
big
cats
unable
or
unwilling
to
meet
these
regulations
he
released
he
surrendered
clarence,
who
now
resides
in
a
safe
haven.
Ten
thousand
square
foot
habitat
with
enclosure
enhancements
that
meet
the
physical
and
psychological
needs
of
a
captive
tiger
and
guaranteed
lifelong
care.
I
Big
cats
are
very
expensive
to
care,
for
safe
haven
will
only
accept
new
animals
if
we're
sure
they
are
financially
and
otherwise
able
to
provide
them
with
lifelong
care.
So,
although
we
are
asked
to
take
numerous
big
cats
every
year,
often
we
have
to
say
no.
We
need
nevada
to
stop
being
a
dumping
ground
because
of
people
moving
into
the
state,
with
exotics
to
bypass
other
states
with
bands
on
place
just
recently,
a
notorious
facility
in
oregon,
known
for
handling
and
breeding
tigers.
I
I
I
guess
I
jumped
a
gun
but
I'll
go
ahead
and
start
to
address,
senator
brooks
staying
on
film
company's
prohibitions.
The
no
contact
provision
of
sbc
44
will
prohibit
even
professionals
from
coming
into
contact
with
the
animals
listed
and
hence,
and
also
anybody
working
with
these
animals
will
be
prohibited.
F
Contact
in
that
would
actually
make
the
animals
more
unsafe,
also
as
far
as
nevada,
having
no
laws.
13
out
of
17
counties
have
ordinances
regulating
exotic
animals
and,
in
addition
to
that,
the
cities
have
their
own
ordinances.
For
example,
henderson
and
north
las
vegas
both
have
exotic
animal
bands.
F
It
also
circumvents
in
conflicts
with
endow
regulations
do
not
does
not
address
public
safety.
There's
no
caging
standards
for
the
animals
listed.
It
doesn't
make
any
sense
on
because
there's
no
criteria
listed
for
designating
a
species
as
a
dangerous
wild
animal
you've
got
primates
that
are,
you
know,
anywhere
from
one
pound
to
five
pounds
requiring
two
hundred
fifty
thousand
dollars,
liabilities,
insurance
and
oh
by
the
way.
F
And
the
the
you
mentioned
zanesville
what
they
don't
mention
there
is
that
they
let
all
the
animals
out,
only
six
got
off
the
property
and
nobody
was
injured
and
it
was
already
illegal
at
the
time
and
I
did
input
very
restrictive
laws.
But
the
latest
cheetah
attack
in
ohio
says
it
can
happen
anywhere,
no
matter
what
your
laws
say
and
it's
an
ada
facility
which.
T
Would
also
be
exempt
anyway.
This
bill
is
also
retroactive
with
the
conditions
for
keeping
the
animals,
I
know
at
least
10
animals
that
would
be
immediately
confiscated.
T
Okay,
thank
you.
Let
the
record
reflect
that
that
was
in
opposition
testimony
bps.
Do
we
have
anyone
else
willing
to
testify
and
support
before
we
move
to
opposition.
T
T
Caller
with
the
last
three
digits
263,
please
slowly
state
and
spell
your
name
for
the
record.
You
will
have
two
minutes
and
may
begin.
Thank
you.
Tina
brandon
abba,
tangelo
t-I-n-a-b-r.
T
A-B-B-A-T-A-N-G-E-L-O
good
afternoon,
chairman
danate
and
madam
vice
president
by
excuse
me
vice
chair
chernobyl.
Thank
you
for
your
time
today.
My
name
is
dr
tina.
Brandon
abatangelo.
I
am
here
today
in
support
of
sb
344
for
the
following
reasons:
I'm
a
human
dentist,
a
dental
school
professor,
but,
most
importantly,
regarding
this
matter,
I'm
a
volunteer
with
the
peter
and
emily
foundation.
We
are
a
non-profit
organization
that
provides
dental
care
to
captain
and
exotic
animals.
I
have
been
with
this
foundation
for
over
12
years,
this
foundation
has
worked
on
over
500
animals.
T
We've
gone
on
over
97
missions
sent
to
over
27
different
sanctuaries
throughout
the
united
states
and
internationally,
and
we
have
performed
over
thirteen
hundred
dental
procedures.
We
treat
their
dental
disease
so
that
they
can
eat
and
ultimately
survive.
I
speak
as
a
person
who
has
been
in
the
trenches,
along
with
many
other
committed
veterinarians
and
dentists
that
are
highly
trained
to
provide
this
type
of
care
to
these
exotic
animals,
and
I
have
seen
firsthand
what
happens
when
these
animals
are
no
longer
needed
and
are
discarded.
T
F
F
P
Tiger
from
nevada
from
a
show
on
the
strip
that
had
been
declawed
and
all
of
his
canines
were
drilled
down
to
the
nerve.
Both
of
these
acts
are
illegal
and
they
cannot
be
performed
on
exotic
cats
and
his
dental
visit
consisted
of
four
root
canals
extractions
and
we
can't
keep
an
animal
under
for
more
than
three
hours,
because
it's
too
damaging
to
their
internal
organs
in
the
history
of
these
animals
in
these
sanctuaries.
P
There's
so
many
stories
and
they're
heartbreaking
to
hear,
but
I'm
here
today
in
support
of
this
bill,
because
I
have
seen
firsthand
what
happens
when
these
animals
have
once
been
used
for
profit
that
are
now
confiscated,
surrendered
or
rescued
from
these
unhealthy
environments
and
no
matter
how
hard
we
try
to
give
them
the
best
intentions
with
natural
habitats.
They
are
never
fully
replicated,
so
they
are
dependent
on
us
for
their
survival
and
never
can
they
go
back
into
the
wild.
P
So
if
I
support
this
bill,
if
you
have
any
questions
at
all,
please
feel
free
to
call
me
email
me
text
me.
I
will
be
happy
to
share
any
knowledge.
I
have
with
you
about
my
missions
and
I'm
sending
over
my
letter
with
some
photos
of
some
canines
of
the
white
tiger
for
you
to
see.
Thank
you
very
much.
P
P
Chair
there
are
no
more
callers
in
support
at
this
time.
Thank
you,
vps.
Next
we
will
move
to
opposition.
Is
there
anyone
on
the
line
wishing
to
provide
testimony
in
opposition
for
sb
344?
F
F
F
T-I-M-S-T-O-F-F-E-L,
I'm
speaking
in
opposition
to
sb
344
because
of
the
you
know.
This
bill
is
not
fully
understood
by
and
not
being
identified
as
the
real
dangers
that
it's
causing.
First
of
all,
a
total
ban
on
private
ownership
is
a
bad
idea
because
we
need
more
people
breeding
these
cats.
Despite
what
was
being
said
about
surplus
there's,
actually
a
shortage
of
these
cats,
we
have
had
a
great
deal
of
trouble
trying
to
find
new
big
cats
for
our
zoo
because
nobody's
breeding
anymore.
E
Because
these
laws
are
proliferating
all
over
the
country,
we
need
regulation,
not
bans
number
two.
The
standards
that
have
been
raised
for
the
for
the
usda
class
c,
exhibitors
are
so
high
that
you
know
just
you
know,
just
reading
all
the
conditions
and
stuff
they
have
to
meet.
You
know
we're
to
a
situation
now,
where
you
know,
even
a
minor
violation
would
cause
immediate
confiscation
of
our
animals
at
sierra
safari
zoo.
E
I
don't
think
this
is.
This
is
very
good
policy
and
stuff
like
this,
and
it's
just
you
know
what
this
is
a
giant
witch
hunt
to
try
to
find
an
excuse
to
shut
down
the
zoo,
because
this
bill
really
isn't
about
protecting
the
public
or
protecting
the
animals.
It's
about
finding
another
way
to
eliminating
these
animals
from
the
human
population.
That's
those
humane
societies.
The
united
states
of
china
are
all
about.
E
Furthermore,
the
the
ban
on
contact
is
bad
because
it
makes
it
very
difficult
for
the
keepers
to
take
care
of
them,
because
this
ban
extends
to
animal
keepers.
It
isn't
just
the
public
and
stuff
like
that.
You
know
this
is
just
it's
just
you
know
a
gross
overreach.
The
legislature
is
not
an
animal,
you
know
it's
not
an
expert.
F
On
that
they
should
not
be
passing.
Rules
like
this.
This
is
something
that
should
be
done.
You
know
if
it's
going
to
be
done
at
all,
it
should
be
done
by
endo.
In
any
case.
In
any
case,
we
have
a
very
the
definite
legitimate
need
for
better.
You
know,
conservation
and
stuff
like
this
involves
all
sorts.
F
O
It
very
difficult
to
continue
doing
what
you're
doing,
because
one
slip
up
and
they're
at
your
door
to
do.
Do
you
know,
take
your
animals
away
so
this
bill
this
bill,
you
know,
I'm
gonna,
be
I've
submitted
additional
comments
on
all
the
areas
of
this
bill
that
you
know
is
concerned.
O
This
bill
does
not
need
to
be
law
in
the
state.
We
already
have
some
laws
to.
You
know
that
are
adequate.
We
just
haven't
had
any
incidents
in
the
state.
I
don't
think
there's
going
to
be
instances,
we
are
not
being
overrun
by
people
with
big
cats
in
their
backyard.
Please
do
not
let
this
bill
could
become
a
law.
Thank
you.
O
O
Thank
you
chair.
Thank
you
committee
for
my
participation
today,
I'm
a
las
vegas
magician
and
I
perform
with
tigers
and
other
exotic
animals.
I'm
also
a
card
holder
of
ayatsi
union
local
720
and
my
show
provides
great
union
jobs
for
our
community
when
we
perform
now.
I
certainly
respect
any
law
or
agenda
that
protects
animals,
but
I
really
don't
see
this
one
doing
it.
The
restrictions
are
so
great
that
just
getting
a
small
write-up
from
the
usda
would
lead
to
a
compensation.
O
We
are
not
grandfathered
in
it.
Anyway,
I
mean
sure
for
a
few
moments.
We
can
keep
our
business,
but
it
will
just
be
so
easy
to
not
comply
with
any
of
these
strict
regulations.
O
I
don't
find
this
reasonable
by
any
means,
and
now,
for
instance,
if
it
was
something
where,
if
one
was
convicted
of
a
crime
by
the
usda
or
a
crime
of
animal
cruelty,
then
that
would
be
reasonable
to
confiscate
animals
but
anyway,
for
these
reasons,
and
also
the
fact
that
this
is
bad
for
tourism
and
bad
for
any
shows
or
any
zoos
that
have
animals,
I'm
strongly
opposed
to
this
bill.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
F
F
F
Testimony
as
it's
a
little
long
to
be
reading,
but
a
few
things
I'd
like
to
point
out
is
that
there's
already
current
city
and
county
regulations
that
have
been
doing
a
pretty
good
job
and
that
also
that
there
hasn't
ever
been
any
legal,
dangerous
situations
in
the
state
of
nevada
with
animals
in
20
years.
That
I
can
find.
I
also
wanted
to
point
out
this
bill
would
require
owners
to
have
to
get
a
hold
of.
C
F
There's
no
due
process
and
it
takes
a
lot
of
rights
away
and
that
you
guys
and
that
also
it's
been
pointed
out
about
tiger
king-
that's
like
pointing
out
life
based
on
real
housewives
or
born
in
the
wild.
It's
a
reality.
Tv
show,
but
it's
not
exactly
based
on
what
everything's
going
on
in
any
and
all
state,
bringing
up
something
that
happened
10
years
ago
in
a
state.
That's
not
nevada!
L
B
I'm
sorry
I
lost
my.
I
lost
my
phone
anyways.
I
would
just
employ
that
you
would
please
look
at
my
testimony
and
reach
out
to
some
of
us
in
nevada
before
accepting
this.
I
also
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
this
was
presented
kind
of
last
minute
and
before
normal
deadlines,
and
I
think
it
needs
a
lot
more
review
and
especially.
C
C
B
B
R
F
There
have
not
been
any
significant
events
in
nevada
to
warrant
a
need
for
this
legislation
in
the
previous
12
years
or
even
50
plus
years
in
the
state.
The
few
incidents
of
people
being
injured
by
exotic
animals
have
only
involved
people
voluntarily.
Taking
that
risk
or
a
recognized
and
accepted
occupational
hazard,
sure
you've
heard
of
a
few
events
that
have
happened
over
the
years
pertaining
to
exotic
animals.
There
seems,
to
always
be
a
bad
apple,
no
matter
what
the
subject
matter
in
all
of.
B
These
cases,
existing
laws
and
infrastructure
have
been
more
than
sufficient
to
handle
those
outliers.
We
are
not
supposed
to
punish
all
the
good
people
because
of
the
actions
of
a
couple
bad
if
it
isn't
broke,
don't
fix
it
once
again.
This
has
nothing
more.
This
is
nothing
more
than
a
special
interest
group
trying
to
force
its
extreme
ideology
on
a
small
group
of
innocent
and
responsible
citizens
and
will
only
harm
these
citizens
and
their
animals
while
doing
nothing
extra
to
prevent
criminals
from
breaking
the
already
existing
laws.
B
B
I
am
henza
nevada,
I'm
the
owner
and
I
oppose
sb
344,
because
it
is
a
bad
anti-end
model,
fair
bill
that
most
locals,
don't
support
iran,
federalist
state
and
counter
license
license
exotic
animal
facility
that
actually
houses
many
animals
confiscated
from
tiger
king
characters
and
other
high-profile
cases.
So
if
this
was
a
good
bill,
trust
me
I
would
support
it,
but
this
is
a
horrible
deal.
This
bill
will
not
improve
public
safety
or
anywhere
else,
just
the
opposite.
Nobody
died
by
exotics
in
nevada
in
the
last
20
years.
B
We
already
have
enough
laws,
they
just
need
to
be
enforced.
The
field
would
make
it
almost
impossible
for
a
facility
to
keep
helping
the
government
agencies
transporting
and
housing
the
animals.
This
is
like
a
confiscation
euthanasia,
manual
manual
of
innocent
animals
having
to
get
three
day
notice
to
transfer
very
sick
animals
to
the
veterinarian
might
be
a
certain
death
sentence
in
emergency
situations
having
animals
confiscated
for
simple
fix
it
in
60
seconds
item
is
insane.
B
This
is
guilty
until
through
an
awesome
bill
that
would
result
in
expensive
lawsuits
for
the
cities
and
counties
that
would
be
forced
to
enforce
it,
to
draw
powers.
Imagine
being
written
for
one
of
your
five
dogs
not
being
licensed.
You
license
the
dog
the
next
day,
but
few
days
later,
animal
control
shows
up
and
confiscates
all
of
your
animals.
Our
traffic
traffic
cubs
give
you
a
ticket
for
broken
daylight.
You
fix
it
the
next
day,
but
a
few
days
later,
all
of
your
cars
and
driver
licenses
are
confiscated
by
nevada
one
of
keep
school.
B
You
recommend
the
kids,
manage
child
animal
services
shoulder
and
take
all
your
kids
in
answer
exam
azu's
last
big
attack
happened
in
ohio
in
aca,
facilitate
this
billwood
exam.
It
would
come
a
union
and
non-union
jobs,
which
is
a
horrible
idea,
cause
that
we
are
still
in
the
pandemic
situation
and
any
job
is
a
good
job.
It
was
introduced
after
the
regular
and
extended
airline,
so
I
was
wondering
why
don't
the
rules
apply
to
sponsors
of
this
bills?
This
bill
goes
late
and
should
be
dead
on
arrival.
Thank
you.
B
B
B
B
The
72
hours
is
a
big
problem,
giving
aza
exemptions.
If
you're
going
to
make
a
law
that
covers,
everybody
don't
exist.
Anybody
number
three
is:
I
live
in
nevada
at
clark
county
for
50
years
now
almost
the
laws
are
here,
but
it
didn't
prevent
jeff
lowe
from
the
tiger
king
of
bringing
animals
in
illegally.
And
if
you
don't
address
the
border,
where
you
have
check
stations,
you
won't
be
able
to
correct
that
so
you're
not
going
to
protect
the
animals
or
the
people.
B
B
B
Hi,
this
is
steve
higgs
from
sierra
safari,
zoo
we'd
like
to
let
you
know
that
we're
opposing
this
bill
and
we
have
approximately
over
400
hours
of
time
and
working
with
big
cats
40
years
working
all
together,
and
we
also
don't
believe
that
the
way
that
this
stated
in
this
this
whole
thing
is
going
to
help
us
in
any
way
shape
or
form.
I
agree
with
the
fact
that
giving
it
72
hours
to
give
notification
is
definitely
going
to
be
a
problem
as
far
as
getting
big
cats
or
any
exotic
animal
to
a
veterinary
service.
B
We
we've
been
doing
this
for,
like
I
said
over
40
years,
we've
had
every
type
of
big
cat.
There
is,
and
we
have
not
seen
in
any
situation
where
these
animals
have
been
a
problem.
Our
facility
is
built
really
really
well.
We've
been
a
usda
licensed
for
the
last
40
years
as
well
and
haven't
had
any
issues.
B
I
think
that,
going
after
everybody
and
trying
to
pass
the
rules
where,
if
you
got
some
mice
turds
laying
around
somewhere
and
you
get
notified
about
it,
that
that
can
cause
you
to
have
your
animals
taken
away
from
you.
There's
just
too
many
situations
there,
where
it's
not
going
to
work
for
anybody
and
it's
going
to
cause
all
the
animals
to
be
taken
and
potentially
euthanized.
B
B
B
B
Chair
there
are
no
more
callers
in
opposition
at
this
time.
Thank
you
vps.
Last
but
not
least,
is
there
anyone
wishing
to
provide
testimony
in
neutral
on
sb
344.
B
Caller
with
the
last
three
digits
196,
please
slowly
state
and
spell
your
name
for
the
record.
You
will
have
two
minutes
and
may
begin
good
afternoon,
chairman
don
yate
and
members
of
the
senate
natural
resources
committee,
I'm
eric
spratley
e-r-I-c
s-p-r-a-t-l-e-y,
the
executive
director
of
the
nevada,
sheriffs
and
chiefs
association
here
in
neutral
to
senate
bill
344.
B
We
were
signed
in
as
opposed,
but
from
the
presentation
on
the
bill
and
prior
extensive
work
with
senator
warren
hardy.
I'm
confident
that
a
few
of
the
procedural
concerns
we
had
will
be
answered
and
or
addressed,
and
we'll
arrive
at
a
place
of
support
for
the
bill.
We
agree
with
regulation
and
oversight
for
large
exotic
and
dangerous
wild
animals
for
the
safety
of
the
public
we
serve.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
B
B
Thank
you
so
much
pps,
mr
warren
hardy.
Do
you
have
any
last-minute
comments
before
we
close
the
hearing?
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
members
of
the
committee.
Thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
to
review
this
issue.
We
look
forward
to
continuing
to
work
with
the
gaming
industry
and-
and
I
will
call
my
friend
mr
spratley,
and
make
sure
his
issues
addressed
as
well
as
he
indicated.
We've
worked
on
this
together
for
many
sessions.
So
thank
you,
chair
and
committee.
We
appreciate
your
time.
B
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
hardy.
I
will
go
ahead
and
close
the
hearing
on
sb
344
again
for
the
public
that
is
watching.
The
committee
will
not
be
taking
an
action
on
sb
344
today,
but
it
may
bring
it
back
for
a
future
work
session.
B
All
right,
let's
go
ahead
and
before
we
close
out
proceed
to
public
comment,
I
will
not
cover
public
comment.
Please
remember
to
limit
your
comments
to
two
minutes.
Bpstop.
Is
there
anyone
wishing
to
provide
public
comment
at
this
time?
B
B
B
My
name
is
joshua
tower
c-o-w-a-r-t
I
tried
to
get
through
for
the
opposition,
but
something
it.
Never.
You
guys
never
picked
up
from
for
my
phone
on
that,
but
I
just
wanted
to
state
that
I
support
what
everyone
else
is
arguing
in
regards
to
this
bill
and
that
it
is
not
in
the
best
interest
of
the
animals.
This
is
a
no.
B
This
is
a
no
pet
agenda
put
out
by
hsus
and
peta,
and
then
I
would
also
just
like
to
stay
in
remembrance
of
ken
foos
that,
since
as
a
great
advocate
for
animals
here
in
nevada
that
he's
still
still
with
us
and
we're
still
in
this
fight
for
that's
all.
B
Thank
you,
sir,
for
your
comment,
just
a
reflection
that
this
is
once
again
a
public
comment
and
the
hearing
on
sp344
has
already
ended
so
just
for
anyone
else
that
wishes
to
provide
bps.
Are
there
any
other
callers
looking
to
provide
public
comment
at
this.
B
B
I
just
want
to
quickly
add
that
it
seems
to
maybe
dirty
pool
that
they're
once
again
going
to
make
a
carve
out
for
the
gaming
industry
if
you're
going
to
pass
a
law
like
this,
they
shouldn't
be
exempt
either.
Thank
you
very
much.
Yes
again,
as
I
stated,
this
is
not
time
for
discussion
on
sb
344.
That
time
has
already
passed.
We
are
only
entertaining
public
comment
at
this
time.
Bps
is
there
anyone
else
wishing
to
provide
public
comment?
B
B
Queue
chair:
there
are
no
more
callers
in
for
public
testimony
at
this
time.
Thank
you,
bps
members,
any
comments.
Before
we
go
ahead
and
adjourn,
I
don't
see
none
thank
you
for
your
questions
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
you
all
on
tuesday.
Our
next
meeting
is
on
tuesday
april
6
at
3
30
p.m.
The
meet
the
meeting
is
now
adjourned.
Thank
you.
So
much.