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Okay,
great!
Thank
you
before
we
open
up
our
presentations
today.
I
just
want
to
remind
the
public
that
we
will
be
taking
public
comment
at
the
end
after
the
presentations,
and
so
you
may
register
by
going
on
to
the
agenda
on
nellis,
and
there
is
an
access
link
there,
provided
so
that
you
can
go
ahead
and
link
in
if
you're
interested
in
making
public
comment
at
the
end
of
today's
hearing.
A
So
with
that,
we
have
a
few
different
agencies
that
are
presenting
today:
water
resources,
forestry
and
natural
in
nevada,
natural
heritage.
So,
first
up
today
we
have
miss
fairbanks
and
mr
sullivan,
I
believe,
from
water
resources.
F
Good
morning,
chair
miller
and
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
adam
sullivan,
I'm
the
acting
nevada
state
engineer
and
we
will
be
providing
a
presentation
with
an
overview
of
our
our
executive
budget.
G
F
F
F
F
F
F
I
The
remainder
of
the
division's
revenue
consists
of
our
fema
cap,
grant
that
supports
the
division's
flood
management
program
and
which
is
funded
at
approximately
a
hundred
and
three
thousand
dollars
per
year.
The
fema
dm
safety
grant
that
supports
the
division's
dam
safety
program
for
approximately
74
000
a
year
and.
B
H
I
I
I
The
division's
budget
also
includes
approximately
two
hundred
and
twenty
thousand
dollars
a
year
to
support
stream
gauging
throughout
the
state.
This
is
a
collaborative
effort
with
the
united
states
geological
service
and
it's
important
to
the
division's
ability
to
monitor
stream
flows
statewide
as
part
of
our
overall
water
resource
management.
I
I
I
I
I
Additionally,
in-state
travel
is
critically
important
to
support
the
mission
and
core
functions
throughout
the
state,
particularly
as
we
resume
normal
operations
in
the
coming
months.
Over
the
past
year,
the
division
did
not
engage
in
much
of
the
necessary
field
work
and
our
ins
in
our
in-state
travel
was
much
less.
I
Additionally,
we
as
a
division,
we
continue
to
face
significant
complaints
and
criticism
regarding
the
absence
of
us
and
our
staff
being
out
in
the
field
more
regularly
and
not
having
as
much
face-to-face
engagement
in
our
rural
communities.
I
I
And
we've
been
working
with
the
governor's
finance
office
with
respect
to
a
budget
amendment
to
support
needed
repairs
at
the
dam
that
we're
currently
in
the
process
of
investigating
and
determining
what
those
need.
Those
needs
will
be
and
that's
essential
for
us.
Maintaining
the
safe
operation
of
the
dam.
I
So,
with
revisions
to
our
budget
in
response
to
the
realities
of
the
economic
impacts
due
to
the
pandemic,
the
division
has
made
efforts
to
answer
the
governor's
call
for
us
to
identify
where
budget
reductions
can
take
place.
Unfortunately,
as
we
explain
in
the
prior
slide,
nearly
80
percent
of
our
budget
constitutes
people.
I
I
However,
those
those
reductions
come
with
a
significant
cost
to
us
as
an
agency,
so
our
recommended
budget
includes
four
separate
enhancement
units
for
the
purpose
of
achieving
these
targeted
budget
reductions.
The
first
of
these
is
e681,
which
leaves
an
existing
engineering
technician
positioned
vacant
until
january
2023.
I
This
is
a
staff
vacancy
within
our
division's
titles
and
deeds
processing
section,
and
it
is
a
more
senior
position
within
the
section
leaving
that
position
vacant
will
reduce
the
efficiency
of
that
program.
Section
in
processing
reviewing
and
confirming
reports
of
conveyance:
these
are
documents
relating
to
the
changes
of
ownership
of
water
rights,
and
it's
expected
that
existing
backlogs
will
grow
and
the
time
to
process
these
reports
of
convenience
will
take
longer.
I
Next
two
are
e682
and
683,
which
involve
leaving
two
positions,
a
professional
engineering
position
and
an
associate
engineering
position
vacant
again
too
through
january
2023,
and
these
two
positions
are
within
the
division's
adjudication
section.
These
vacancies
will
greatly
impact
the
division's
productivity
with
respect
to
conjunctive
adjudications
of
pre-statutory
rights.
I
You
know
presently
adjudications
take
many
years
and
regularly
decades
to
complete
and
the
continued
vacancies
in
our
adjudication
section
only
compounds
the
time
it
takes
to
perform
this
important
work
and
the
stake
of
these
vacancies
will
certainly
just
only
add
to
the
delay
and
the
time
it
takes
to
complete
these.
I
I
So
our
base
and
allocation
dates
and
funds
are
derived
from
chapters
533
and
534
and,
as
a
threshold
point,
I
think
it's
significant
to
address
that
the
use
of
basin
funds
to
support
classified
positions
within
the
division
has
been
done
for
many
years.
I
I
F
F
In
some
detail
and
on
that
on
that
point,
I'll
skip
to
the
the
last
bullet,
the
third
bullet
on
this
slide,
so
the
deadline
for
submitting
claims
of
vested
right
is
is
20
27
and
again,
as
michelin
says,
there
will
be
an
expectation
that
the
division
is
responsive
to
adjudicating
those
claims
that
we're
receiving
approaching
that
date
and.
F
One
objective
is
to
create
pathways
for
promotion
for
staff
who
don't
qualify
for
a
professional
engineering
license,
but
otherwise
have
really
important.
Skill
sets
that
we
need,
for
instance,
in
the
areas
of
hydrogeology
in
well
drilling
in
water
planning
and
a
number
of
other
examples,
and
the
second
objective
in
or
a
second
objective
in
reclassifying
is
to
reduce
staff
to
supervisor
ratios.
F
One
area
of
need
is
to
update
the
foundational
science
that
we
rely
upon
to
make
determinations
of
long-term
water
availability
of
the
data
that
we
use
to
understand.
Regional
groundwater
flow
systems
and
perennial
yield
is
based
on
usgs
studies
that
are
50
to
70
years
old
and
not
that
it's
bad
science,
but
it
is
dated
and
it's
increasingly
being
challenged.
F
Updating
water
budget
studies
using
current
methods
is
a
critical
step.
I'm
using
this
baseline
science
to
understand
the
long-term
water
availability
really
becomes
critical
to
to
to
protect
existing
rights,
to
protect
environmental
water
needs
and
to
resolve
disagreements
before
we
have
water
shortages.
F
Secondly,
we
we
have
a
pressing
need
to
modernize
some
of
our
internal
processes
to
preserve
historic
records,
to
digitize
our
files
and
enhance
our
use
of
technologies
that
can
help
us
work.
Smarter,
we're
running
out
of
space
for
paper
records
and
the
accumulating
history
of
decisions
can
too
easily
be
overlooked.
When
addressing
immediate
questions.
F
F
F
B
H
A
Thank
you
so
much.
We
actually
do
have
members
that
have
a
few
questions.
First,
to
begin,
assemblywoman,
monroe,
moreno,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
so
much
for
the
detailed
presentation.
A
I
have
a
few
questions
about
or
a
question
about:
e681
682
and
683
in
your
slide
presentation
on
page
six
and
ten,
you
talked
about
the
vacancies,
but
could
you
just
discuss
with
us
it's
a
little
more
detail.
How
the
backlogs
in
the
titles
and
adjudication
section
will
impact
you
if
the
recommended
vacancies
go
forward.
How
that
impact
your.
A
F
Well,
currently,
in
our
with
our
our
deed
section,
we
have
a
we.
F
Position
and
our
backlog
is
manageable,
but
to
re
to
hold
one
position
vacant
would
reduce
our
staff.
By
about,
I
believe
it's
one
position
out
of
four,
so
we
would
reduce
our
capacity
by
a
one
quarter
and
over
time
that
will
just
be
a
proportional.
F
F
With
regard
to
the
adjudications
section,
this
is
so
we're
talking
about
leaving
two
positions
vacant
which
reduces
our
staff
from
seven
to
five.
We
do
have
about
14
active
adjudications
that
we're
working
on
now
and
there
are
about
approximately
20
petitions
to
adjudicate
additional
basins,
as
we
discussed
approaching
the
deadline
for
2027.
F
F
A
A
B
I
For
approximately
a
year,
but
we
were
beginning,
we
were
holding
it
vacant
because
it's
a
critical
component
of
the
reorganization
and
reclassification
that
mr
sullivan
was
discussing
him
again.
Sorry,
michelin,
fairman
for
the
record
and
so
that
those
so
that
position
has
been
held
vacant.
But
we
were
in
the
process
of
trying
to
prepare
ourselves
to
be
able
to
fill
it
in
in
a
different
manner
and
then,
when
we
were
requested
to
make
or
look
at
budget
reductions
and
anticipating
budget
reductions,
we
exercised
some.
I
You
know
restraint
recognizing
that
we
didn't
want
to
put
ourselves
in
an
even
worse
position.
The
staff
engineer
position
has
has
been
only
vacant
for
several
months
and
it
became
vacant
due
to
an
internal
transfer,
internal
promotion
of
that
of
that
employee
and
so
again,
with
the
requested
need,
for
you
know,
additional
agency
budget
savings,
we
elected
to
keep
that
position
open
anticipating
this.
This
very
circumstance.
A
E
I
have
a
question
on
e684
and
you
addressed
this
in
your
presentation
a
little
bit,
but
I
want
to
go
a
little
deeper.
I
guess
about
the
funding
source
change,
so
you
have
you.
You
made
a
determination
that
that
you're
gonna
change
the
funding
from
general
fund
to
allocation
from
the
water,
the
water
district
assessments
and
you
first
of
all,
I
wanna.
E
I
I
I
I
believe
it's
140,
you
know
we
have.
We
have
the
statutory
authority
to
employ
water,
commissioners
and
assistants
to
perform
the
work
to
support
those
particular
basins.
F
I
We
made
a
determination
to
look
at
what
other
positions
within
the
office
would
qualify
within
that
construct
and
so
that
construct
being,
who
does
work
that
directly
and
specifically
supports
the
administration
and
and
the
work
performed
in
those
individual
basins,
and
so
based
upon
that
these
particular
positions
that
we
identified
in
e684
are
positions
that
directly
monitor,
supervise
and
conduct
work
within
the
and
support
the
work
performed
by
those
individual
basins,
so
whether
that
may
be
reviewing
applications
to
appropriate
water
change,
applications
to
appropriate
water
and
working
with
the
specific
basin
engineer
assigned
to
that
basin
to
do
the
analysis
and
perform
their
particular
functions
to
identify
conflicts
to
perform
hydrologic
analyses
to
review
that
work,
that's
being
done!
I
That's
what
these
particular
positions
do
is
they
are
directly
and
intricately
supportive
of
the
work
that's
being
done
in
those
particular
basins
and
so
based
upon.
That
is
where
we
found
that,
just
as
we
have
those
other
positions
that
we
made
the
determination
that
these
positions
are
performing
work
specifically
to
support
those
basins,
and
so
that
was
that
was
how
we
came
to
those
conclusions.
E
I
E
Right,
so
how
are
you
good
go
ahead?
I'm
sorry!
So
so,
if
that's
and
you
have
the
same
thing
like
you
mentioned
in
the
gis
analyst
in
your
in
your
presentation-
I'm
assuming
he
does,
he
or
she
does
work.
For
that
I
mean
for
all
of
the
basins.
So
I
guess
the
question
would
be.
Then,
how
are
you
going
to
track
and
monitor
that
that
work
by
the
particular
basin,
that's
going
to
benefit
from
that
work?
Are
you
going
to
have
a
way
to
be
able
to
track
that.
I
So
we
have
mechanisms
to
track
it.
However,
when
we
do
this,
we
looked
at
the
type
of
work
in
the
and
the
staff
in
which
those
particular
positions
are
either
overseeing
so
using
the
chief
of
hydrologies
as
a
specific
example,
many
and
most
of
the
staff
in
our
hydrology
section
are
well
supervisors.
I
They
perform
work
specific
to
basins
that
have
assessments
and
that
are
doing
hydrologic
analysis
with
respect
to
the
management
of
those
individual
resource
water
basins,
so
that
particular
position
supervises.
The
majority
of
his
staff
are
basin,
funded,
non-classified
employees
and
so
more
than
a
majority
of
his
time
is
dedicated
to
supporting
that
now,
while
the
work
that
he
does
also
supports
statewide
functions,
it's
a
proportional
share
of
the
work
that
he's
doing
is
directly
to
support
those
assessed
basis.
E
E
But
I
I
guess
I
guess
the
question
I'm
asking
is
because
of
the
the
requirement
in
the
statute
that,
if
you're
going
to
fund
it
out
of
those
assessments
that
you
have
that
you
know
it
has
to
be
specific
to
the
region
where
you
collected
the
the
revenue
from
and
and
so
we're
just
wondering
how
you're
going
to
track
that
so
that
way,
when
he
works
on
you
know
whatever
basin
is,
are
you
going
to
be
able
to
to
track
that
and
then,
in
addition
also,
I
want
to
talk
about
the
impacts,
then
by
by
funding
it
this
way,
what
are
the
impacts
and
that
that
occur
and
then
are
there
going
to
be
delays
in
other
work
supported
by
the
by
the
base?
E
So
so,
in
other
words,
you've
got.
You
know
you
you've
identified
individuals
that
do
work
for
the
basins,
not
maybe
not
like
the
the
one
you
mentioned.
The
supervisor
is
supervising
different
ones
that
have
that,
but
then
there's
also
statewide
functions,
so
there
are
going
to
be
functions
that
are
going
to
be
that
you're
not
going
to
do
because
you're
using
you're
funding
it
in
this
particular.
E
F
Yes,
senator
dennis
this
is
adam
sullivan
for
the
record.
The
consequence
of
of
of
using
that
basic
funding
to
support
salaries
to
based
on
funded
work
means
that
that
that
the
the
funding
available
for
those
basins
cannot
be
used
for
other
things
that
we
would
we
would
prefer
to
do.
That
would
be
beneficial,
such
as
collecting
more
water
level
data
keeping
up
with
field.
F
H
J
G
F
E
Okay,
all
right.
Thank
you
thank
thank
you,
madam
chair.
C
Yes,
thank
you,
chair
miller
and
and
thanks
for
the
presentation,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I
understand
this
correctly,
so
we
were
talking
about
these
five
vacancies
and
I
see
that
we
have
two
different
points
of
data
before
us
on
slide:
seven
without
e684
and
with
e684,
giving
us
different
allocations.
C
Am
I
to
understand
that,
with
the
the
governor's
recommended
budget
will
be
able
to
build
those
five
positions
or
will
those
five
positions
still
be
vacant?
Even
with
that
increased
proposal
of
funding.
I
Michelin
fairbank
for
the
record,
so
those
the
the
positions
that
we've
identified
is
leaving
vacant.
So
the
position,
the
three
positions
under
e681,
682
and
683
under
the
governor's
recommended
budget,
will
remain
vacant
until
january
2023.
C
So
I
think,
circling
back
to
some
of
the
questions
that
vice
chair
monroe
moreno
asked.
I
I
just
have
some
real
concerns
about
the
backlog
and
just
that
we
currently
have
and
what
impacts
those
those
five
vacancies
will
continue
to
have
moving
forward,
just
to
break
it
down
on
a
a
more
fundamental
level.
C
You
know
we're
having
all
these
discussions
in
this
building
about
the
affordability
of
housing
and
that's
a
supply
and
demand
equation,
and
I
have
one
development
stone
gate
in
my
district
that
has
been
adjudicating
for
six
years
now,
and
five
thousand
homes
are
on
hold
as
a
result
of
that,
and
so
how
many
more
projects
like
that?
Are
we
looking
at
potentially
being
delayed
out
years,
which
impacts
the
the
increasing
cost
of
our
housing
when
we're
not
getting
these
things
approved
and
getting
them
through?
I
You
raise
very
significant
concerns
that
we
have
as
well,
and
that
is
you
know,
leaving
these
positions
vacant
these
positions,
vacant
or
not.
You
know
having
a
full
the
full
funding
to
support
all
of
our
positions
that
we
have.
You
know
that
comes
at
a
significant
cost
to
the
users
that
you
know
the
public
that
we
serve.
So
if
we
leave
these
positions
vacant
is
proposed,
we
will
continue
to
have
backlogs,
that's
just
the
reality
and
we
we
have
limited
staff,
we're
you
know
it's
it's,
mr
sullivan
stated
earlier.
I
You
know
the
best
of
times
you
know
being
fully
staffed
is
is
still
not
enough
and
in
the
worst
of
times
it's
even
harder.
So
those
backlogs.
If
we
continue
to
keep
these
positions
vacant-
or
you
know
we're
faced
with
additional
vacancies
that
will
adversely
affect
our
ability
to
perform
our
core
functions
on
an
expedited
basis.
I
C
I
appreciate
that,
and
I
just
want
to
go
back
to
something
that
you
said
earlier
in
your
presentation,
which
is
these.
These
savings
of
these
five
positions
are
actually
just
you
know
what
we
call.
I
guess
budget
desk
right,
just
a
drop
in
the
bucket
of
the
overall
budget,
but
the
impact
on
the
citizens
of
nevada
in
housing.
Affordability
is
huge,
so
I
just
have
some
real
concerns
about
these
vacancies
and
and
these
backlogs
and
the
ripple
effects
that
are
much
larger
than
these.
These
filling
these
positions
with
our
budget.
A
Thank
you,
assemblywoman,
not
seeing
any
additional
question
I'd
like
to
thank
you
both
for
your
presentation.
A
I'd
like
to
thank
you
both
for
your
presentation
on
water
resources
and
we
can
go
ahead
and
share.
I
have.
A
Okay,
senator
please,
if
you
have
questions
you
know
you
can
always
skype
me
or
send
send
it
through
teams.
I
will
make
this
final
exception
this
one
time,
but
please,
let's
you
know,
follow
the
procedures
of
the
committee.
E
But
yes,
I
and
of
course
this
is
kind
of
very
nearing
to
me
and
I
have
several
questions
involved.
I
apologize
for
not
striking
you.
This
is
not
the
best
in
my
mind,
the
best
way
to
have
a
conduct,
a
committee
hearing,
but
anyway
I'm
going
to
go
back
to
the
the
title
and
go
right
back
to
the
start,
title
in
adjudication,
mr
sullivan
or
miss
fairbanks.
How
far
behind
are
you
on
that?
E
I
can
pull
up
any
any
water
basin
in
in
the
state
and
look
at
worship
records
that
I'm
familiar
with
and
see
that
there
are.
You
know
some
of
those
are
20
years.
I
Behind
I'm
michele
fairbank
for
the
record,
senator
griffith.
Thank
you.
You
know
it's
it's
a
little
bit
difficult
specifically
to
quantify.
You
know
the
backlog
with
adjudications,
because
there's
various
reasons
why
we
may
have
delays.
I
I
For
the
final,
you
know,
final
hearings
of
exceptions,
others
were
just
commencing
and
we're
just
getting
the
field
work,
performed
ground,
truthing
information
and
those
different
types
of
things,
all
of
which
you
know
takes
time
to
physically
go
out
and
investigate
those
each
of
individual
claim
that's
filed
depending
on
the
location
that
can
take
many
years
to
go
ahead
and
accomplish
that
type
of
work
as
well
as
then.
The
historic
research
you
know
so
with
regards
to
our
is
what
we
would
call
you
know,
kind
of
the
stale
adjudications.
I
We
have
approximately
14
of
those
stale
adjudications
and
those
have
had
for
various
reasons
from
one
time
or
another,
just
kind
of
gotten
put
on
the
back
burner,
and
some
of
those
right
honestly
can
have
may
have
been
sitting
for
more
than
you
know
a
couple
decades,
and
you
know
we,
if
you
would
like
we'd,
be
happy
to
go
ahead
and
provide
more
detail
with
respect
to
that
and
then,
as
acting
state
engineer
sullivan,
had
stated,
we
have
approximately
20
pending
petitions
to
adjudicate
either
individual
stream
sources,
spring
sources
or
basins,
and
that's
going
to
continue
to
be
an
ongoing
need,
because
you
know
just
kind
of
one
of
the
associated
view.
I
As
similar
women
had
stated.
You
know,
the
ripple
effect
is
part
of
our
application.
Backlog
involves
pending
applications
that
are
dependent
on
find.
You
know
an
adjudication
being
finalized
and
determined.
So
you
know
that
that
the
backlog
in
terms
of
quantifying
we
can
give
those
numbers.
You
know
there's
various
reasons
and
we're
happy
to
provide
that
to
you
in
at
a
later
point
in
time,
if
you
would
like,
but
you're
right,
some
of
them
have
been
stale
for
quite
some
time.
A
E
Adam
chair,
could
I
follow
it
quickly?
Please,
yes,
thank
you
and
I've
got
a
number
of
questions
and
again
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
the
committee
was
aware
that
this
backlog
is
huge.
I
I
think
we
could
double
the
staff
and
spend
the
next
10
years
and
probably
not
account
accomplish
it.
Now.
We've
got
99
basins
that
are
technically
have
been
our
term
adjudicated
and
or,
and
the
other
159
basins
are
not.
E
E
I
I'm
really
concerned
about
what
we're
proposing
to
do
and
how
we're
going
to
try
and
say:
okay,
we've
got
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
we
can
spread
that
out
over
the
258
basins
in
the
state
and
and
accomplish
the
workload
that
clearly
is
in
front
of
you,
and
so
I'm
I'm
just
very
concerned
how
you
think
you
can
take,
and
do
you
not
anticipate
you
might
be
challenged
the
fact
that
you
are
taking
assessment
fees
out
of
that
base
and
it's
dedicated
to
and
using
it.
F
This
is
adam
sullivan
for
the
record,
so
when
we
use
when
we
look
at
basin
funds,
it's
it's
critical
that
the
use
of
that
funding
is
tied
to
what
benefits
the
that
basin.
So,
as
michelin
described
earlier,
we
do
have
a
mechanism
for
tracking
each
account.
F
So
it's
so
it's
important
to
reiterate
that
that
we
do
do
that
and
we
recognize
how
important
that
is.
A
lot
of
the
work.
That's
done
in
all
of
these
basins
is
primarily
supported
by
general
fund
revenues,
whether
through
staff
or
other
resource
needs.
E
You
anticipating
actually
designating.
A
Actually,
senator
I'm
going
to
have
this.
Be
your
last
question.
For
the
sake
of
time,
we
need
to
move
on.
So
after
this
you
can
ask
the
rest
of
the
questions
offline.
We
still
have
almost
a
dozen
other
budgets.
We
need
to
hear
today.
So
if
we
could
have
quickly
asked
with
a
brief
response
and
then
I'll
have
you
ask,
submit
your
questions?
Offline.
E
Adam
chair,
do
you
want
me
to
re-ask
the
question
quickly?
Yes,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
you
presently
got
99
basins
that
are
designated.
Are
you
anticipating
designating
more
basins
so
that.
B
F
Thanks
senator
koikichi
we
have
currently
have
about
125
to
130.
I
don't
know
the
exact
number.
A
designated
basins
within
the
state
designating
a
basin
is
a
process
that
that
delineates
formally
what
the
boundaries
of
that
basin
are.
F
We
are
looking
at
the
possibility
of,
or
we've
issued,
some
draft
designation
orders
or
basins
where
the
commitments
exceed
the
the
estimated
perennial
yield
and
we've
held
public
hearings
on
on
those
draft
designation
orders.
But
no
final
action
has
been
taken
on
on
those
as
of
yet
and
no
determination
with
regard
to
whether
or
not
an
assessment
would
be
required
in
the
future
has
been
made.
A
Okay,
thank
you
so
much
and
thank
you
so
much
for
the
presentation
we
are
going
to
move
on.
We
have
multiple
budgets
to
hear
from
forestry,
so
I'd
like
to
welcome
up
a
state
forester
fire,
warden,
casey,
casey
and
whomever
else
you
have
you
may
have
presenting
with
you
today,
because
there
are
so
many
multiple
budgets
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
our
questions
are
that
none
of
us
get
mixed
up
on
on
which
budget
and
which
questions
after
each
specific
budget
we'd
like
to
stop
and
ask
questions.
If
that
works.
H
A
H
H
Are
yeah
there?
I
am.
Thank
you
sorry,
technologically
challenged.
Still
to
this
day,
you
think
I'd
be
better
at
it
by
now.
H
Thank
you
again
for
having
me
here
today
to
prevent
or
to
present
the
divisions
budget
accounts.
There
are
five
budget
accounts.
It
can
be
a
little
bit
confusing,
so
I
think
it
will
be
best
if
we
stop
after
each
one
and
discuss
the
division
of
forestry's
mission,
as
you
may
or
may
not
be
aware,
is
to
provide
professional
natural
resource
and
wild
and
fire
management
services
to
the
nevada,
citizens
and
visitors
to
enhance,
conserve
and
protect
forests,
rangelands
and
watershed
values,
endangered
plants
and
other
native
flora.
H
Our
primary
statutes
reside
in
472-527-528
that
guide
the
work
that
we
do.
Our
vision,
which
kind
of
goes
real
well,
obviously,
as
we
are
under
the
department
of
conservation
and
natural
resources,
is
to
manage
healthy
and
resilient
landscapes
through
public
and
private
partnerships
in
urban,
rural
and
wild
land
areas
across
nevada
that
sustain
necessary
water
supplies,
local
economies,
human
health
and
wildland
habitat
for
present
and
future
generations
of.
H
Nevada
key
programs
that
we
run,
we
have
multiple
areas
that
protect
conserve
and
enhance
ones
that,
I
I'm
sure
you're
aware
of
is
our
forest
rangeland
and
watershed
stewardship
programs.
H
H
We,
as
you
know,
are
also
first
responders,
so
we
do
have
wildland
fire
suppression
assets.
We
do
support
also
in
other
emergencies,
as
requested
through
other
agencies,
department
of
emergency
management
or
or
county
and
local
officials
for
things
like
the
earthquakes,
floods
or
other
natural
disasters.
H
We
support
hazardous
fuel
reduction
projects,
fire
adapted
communities,
so
we're
looking
at
how
we
get
communities
engaged
in
trying
to
ensure
that
as
they're
built
or
as
they're
currently
designed
that
they're
trying
to
ensure
that
as
a
fire
rolls
through
there,
we
can
do
what
we
can
on
the
outskirts
to
try
to
reduce
the
impacts
as
it
comes
through,
but
that
a
home
is
hardened
to
ensure
that
it
also
is
not
ignitable
as
fuel.
H
During
these
wildland
fire
incidents,
we
have
two
state
tree
nurseries
and
a
seed
bank
that
provides
conservation
plant
materials
for
conservation
projects
around
the
state.
We
also
provide
conservation
education.
We
work
with
teachers
in
classrooms
all
over
the
state
to
try
to
help
students,
understand
the
value
of
protecting
natural
resources
and
making
sure
that
we're
protecting
by
statute
the
endangered
and
protected
flora
around
the
state.
As
listed
with
the
division
of
forestry,
the
governor's
recommended
budget
for
state
fiscal
year,
22
and
23
as
a
biennial
total
for
the
division.
H
It's
about
75,
it's
almost
76
million
dollars.
Our
general
fund
makes
up
about
57
of
that
at
39
million
dollars.
This
supports
185,
full-time
staff
and
77
seasonal
staff,
who
come
on
primarily
for
wildland
firefighting,
but
also
when
we
are
not
fighting
well,
then
fire
are
implementing
the
rest
of
the
mission
in
forestry
work.
B
B
H
We
move
into
this
has
been
our
objective
and
it
maintains
our
objective
is
to
maintain
the
staff
necessary
to
guide
current
and
future
natural
resources
work
throughout
the
state
which
includes
wildland
fire
suppression
in
the
highest
priorities,
areas
in
nevada.
We
are,
we
are
confident
in
the
staff
that
we
have.
We
just
don't
have
a
lot
of
them
to
do
all
of
the
work.
That's
a
large
state
and
our
goal
is
to
is
to
maintain
and
increase
those
staff.
H
We
want
to
make
sure
that,
as
we
have
these
staff,
we
are
providing
them
with
the
adequate
equipment,
supplies
and
training
necessary
to
safely
implement
their
job.
We
do
train
our
firefighters
to
national
standards,
both
inmate
firefighters
and
paid
staff,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
they
have
the
national
training
necessary,
but
also
the
internal
training
necessary.
So
we've
been
working
for
our
staff
on
natural
resource
training,
if
they're
in
the
fire
side
to
make
sure
that
they
have
both
of
those
skills
and
on
the
natural
resource
side,
firefighting
qualifications.
H
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
can
adequately
fund
wildland
fire
suppression,
as
I'm
sure
you
have
heard
me
say
many
times
that
we
are
ever
our
wildland
fire
issue
is
increasing
across
the
state,
that's
actually
true
across
the
west
and
across
the
united
states.
There
are
many
reasons
for
that,
but
we
need
to
be
make
sure
that,
as
we
are
responding,
our
response
is
adequate
to
deal
with
the
problem
that
we
currently
see.
I
H
F
H
Working
in
the
highest
priority
areas
across
all
of
our
limited
budgets
and
limited
staffing,
federal
state
local
government,
finding
picking
together
those
high
priority
areas
and
putting
all
of
our
efforts
in
trying
to
get
these
large
landscape
scale
breaks
which
actually
affect
how
fire
moves
through
those
ecosystems,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
our
fire
staff
have
a
stable
funding
source
to
adequately
address
these
issues.
As
we
go
forward,
a
few
of
the
accomplishments
from
2020.
As
everyone
here
knows,
2020
was
a
tough
year
for
everybody.
H
Our
goal
was
to
to
increase
the
acres
treated.
Unfortunately,
we
were
just
shy
of
our
average
of
5
000
acres
treated.
That
was
largely
due
to
sending
staff
home
for
for
a
while
there
and
then
also
not
having
shifting
staff
actually
and
movement
of
staff.
So
we
we
were
just
shy
of
our
of
our
historic
average.
H
However,
it
was
a
true
testament
to
staff
that
we
got
this
much
accomplished
when
we
sent
everybody
home
in
the
original
stay-at-home
order.
One
of
the
first
goals,
much
of
our
field-going
staff
had
was
to
get
back
out
into
the
field.
So
we
worked
diligently.
Our
staff
worked
diligently
on
getting
plans
on
how
we
could
safely
continue
to
provide
this
service
and
they
did
get
back
to
work
about
a
month
into
stay-at-home
orders.
H
We
started
to
bring
people
back
into
the
offices
for
the
governor's
directives
and
we
continue
to
have
staff
working
in
the
field
safely
every
day
since
so
I
do
assume
going
into
2021
and
2022.
We
will
see
these
acre.
These
numbers
increase,
as
we
have
driven
back
to
our
mission,
we're
not
doing
as
much
of
the
community
support
type
work
that
we
had
been
doing
and
we
are
focused
really
on
those
mission-driven
projects
across
the
state.
H
We
did
get
quite
a
few
new
acres
under
plans.
That's
a
testament
to
also
stop
staying
home,
so
you
have
a
lot
more
time
for
the
planning
process.
H
Our
plant
materials
sold
and
our
seeds
sold
were
down
a
little
bit.
This
year.
Seed
sold
is
directly
down
due
to
fire
in
the
state.
We
had
a
low
fire
year
last
year
and
seed
sales
are
directly
correlated
to
to
fire
seasons.
Our
plants
were
due
to
having
the
nurseries
closed
to
the
public
for
for
quite
some
time,
as
we
tried
to
work
through
a
plan
to
open
them
safely,
for
both
our
staff
and
for
the
public
coming
in.
H
We
have
opened
and
we
are
managing
safely
for
the
last
about
six
months,
so
we
should
see
an
increase
in
that
as
well.
One
of
the
other
ones
I
wanted
to
call
a
highlight,
too,
is
our
suppression
response.
H
As
I
spoke
to
you
and
and
many
of
you
as
we
went
into
the
2020
fire
season,
we
were
worried
about
ground
forces
with
coven
19.
Many
of
our
local
responders
were
tied
up
in
actual
copit19
response,
and
we
were
worried
about
having
the
ground
forces
necessary
to
deal
with
the
fire
season,
that
we
were
predicting
in
the
state
of
nevada
and
across
the
west.
H
In
response
to
that,
we
did
an
emergency
contract,
the
nevada
division
of
forestry,
with
bridger
aerospace
for
two
contracted
super
scoopers.
If
you
will,
they
were
large
aircraft
custom
built
for
the
sole
purpose
of
water
delivery
on
fires.
With
this
asset,
we
were
able
to
double
the
amount
of
water
in
the
initial
attack
response
time
on
fires
in
nevada,
so
we
actually
saw
an
increase
in
fires
in
the
state
of
nevada.
Last
year
over.
H
It
was
almost
a
50
increase
in
what
we
had
seen
years
before,
but
we
actually
were
very
successful
in
initial
attack
due
to
this
increase
not
only
from
the
state
side,
but
the
federal
agencies
also
contracted
additional
air
assets
to
combat
what
we
might
not
have
initially
on
the
ground.
So
ndf's
three
helicopters
dropped
about
365,
000,
gallons
of
water
on
fires.
The
two
super
scoopers
under
contract
for
the
duration
of
the
bulk
of
the
fire
season
dropped
about
400,
000
gallons
of
water.
Just
an
example
on
the
topsy
fire
here
it
started.
H
H
H
One
of
the
nice
things
about
having
traditionally
air
assets
are
contracted
with
the
federal
agencies,
one
of
the
values
of
having
a
state
contract
a
contracted
air
asset
is,
it
is
not
a
national
asset,
so
we
were
able
to
send
it
to
washington
and
oregon
when
our
when
our
partner
states
to
neighboring
states
were
seeing
significant
fire
in
their
areas,
but
we
were
also
able
to
pull
it
back.
G
H
C
H
Is
the
budget
account
which
coordinates
the
bulk
of
our
mission,
which
is
forest
rangeland
watershed
and
endangered
plant
protection
activities
on
qualified
public
state
and
private
lands
working
with
our
state,
federal
and
local
government
partners,
as
we
all
know,
with
the
land
base
in
the
state
of
nevada?
It
requires
us
to
be
good
partners,
both
in
wild
and
fire
response
and
in
working
on
natural
resource
projects.
H
This
budget
account
supports
73,
full-time
positions
and
51
seasonal
positions,
seasonal
firefighter
and
seasonal
dispatch
positions.
This
includes
this
time
a
a
transfer
which
I
will
get
to
in
a
moment
out
of
budget
account
4198
and
four.
They
they're
not
really
new.
They
were
added
into
the
division
through
a
work
program
last
session,
but
four
nv
energy
sb
508
positions.
One
is
an
accounting
position
to
deal
with
the
money.
That's
coming
in
and
three
are
foresters
to
actually
help
guide
the
work
that's
being
done
on
the
ground.
H
The
primary
enhancements
as
discussed
were
the
four
the
bringing
forward
of
the
four
nv
energy
positions.
We
did,
as
you
have
heard,
and
I'm
sure
not
just
from
our
agencies
but
from
everyone
had
to
have
to
make
some
tough
decisions
in
budget
reductions.
H
We
are
an
agency
that
primarily
also
funds
positions
and
the
operating
for
such
positions,
the
bulk
of
which
are
first
responders
to
wildland
fire
emergencies.
So
when
we're
looking
at
cuts,
we
were,
we
were
also
having
to
to
make
sure
that
we
were
making
those
cuts
adequately
to
try
to
preserve
the
staff
that
we
had.
H
We
reduced
uniform
allowances
we
have
in
here
e710,
which
is
a
replacement
for
general
computer
hardware.
Software
radios,
chainsaws
repeaters.
This
is
something
we
have
in
every
year.
It's
very
critical
for
us
to
ensure
that
our
staff
have
communication
when
out
in
the
field,
not
just
when
fighting
fire,
but
when
on
natural
resource
project
every
day,
they're
often
in
areas
that
don't
have
cell
coverage
and
we
need
to
ensure
that
they
can
safely
return
from
projects.
H
The
the
big
one
is
e-805
and
e-901,
which
is
a
transfer
out
of
a
camp
area.
Supervisor
out
of
budget
account,
4198
and
transitioning
that
to
an
education
and
information
officer
in
budget
account,
4195.
H
ndf
has
divided
ourselves
into
three
regions.
Historically,
we've
operated
this
way.
The
camp
program
had
four
camp
area
supervisors,
so
we
we
aligned
better
the
camp
program
with
our
general
practices
for
regional
management,
so
the
three
regions
have
regional
leadership
in
our
ndf
regional
offices,
from
the
camp
program,
the
fire
program
and
the
resources
this
allowed,
the
fourth
camp
area
supervisor
to
be
shifted
into
41.95.
H
In
addition,
as
we
head
into
emergency
response
situations,
it's
critically
important
for
us
to
get
information
out,
timely
and
ensure
that
people
understand
where
road
closures
are
where
they
should
and
should
not
be
what
they
should
be
doing
during
that
time.
So
it's
important
for
us
to
have
somebody
that
helps
us
provide
that
information.
That's
qualified
to
do
so
through
the
program,
and
with
that
I
will
stop
and
ask
for
questions
in
41.95.
A
Thank
you
for
that.
First
up
we
have
assemblyman
watts.
G
Yes,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation,
miss
casey.
I
had
a
couple
of
questions
on
e257,
the
continuation
of
those
positions,
and
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
just
give
a
little
bit
more
background.
So
I
know
that
you
know
the
sp.
508
is
a
little
bit
new.
B
H
H
The
division
worked
with
the
u.s
forest
service
and
other
partners
on
a
couple
projects
on
one
in
the
south
rubies,
which
is
matched
it's
a
fuel
reduction
project
in
the
south,
rubies
directly
matched
with
the
sb
508
funds
and
then
partnered
with
nv
energy.
On
the
bulk
of
the
rest
of
what
was
left
in
sb
508,
the
508
matching
was
5
million.
Our
contract
with
nv
energy
is
about
4.8
million
dollars.
H
We
do
anticipate
one
of
the
things
we
recognize.
Pretty
quick
is
obviously
10
million
dollars
is
a
lot
more
money
than
the
division
of
forestry
has
had
in
our
budget
accounts
ever,
and
so
we
actually
needed
an
increase
in
forestry
staff
to
provide
the
technical
assistance
to
both
landowners,
because
we
don't
have
jurisdictional
responsibility
over
private
land,
so
we
need
them.
We
need
to
help
them
to
cooperate,
but
also
to
look
at
how
we're
going
to
implement
these
projects.
H
It's
critically
important
for
fuel
reduction
projects
to
not
create
a
worse
fuel
problem
than
we
had
before
as
it
comes
to
fire
as
it
moves
through
those
ecosystems.
So
if
they
need
to
be
well
thought
out
and
planned,
so
we
worked
with
nv
energy.
They
agreed
that
they
also
needed
the
forestry
technical
assistance.
So
we
put
three
positions:
we
tried
to
hire
them
through
a
contract
service.
We
looked
at
the
manpower
contract
through
the
state.
H
Unfortunately,
we
did
not
get
a
lot
of
response
for
people
wanting
to
come
into
the
service
for
the
state
through
a
manpower
contract.
We
did
get
a
lot
of
support
when
they
became
state
positions.
We
did
get
a
lot
of
applicants
and
and
very
qualified
applicants.
I'm
happy
to
say
today
we
are
in
the
midst
of
our
third
hire
and
I
think
we're
going
to
have
some
really
qualified
people
out
there,
helping
our
rural
counties.
H
So
the
more
work
that
we
can
do
not
just
in
their
right-of-ways
but
taking
the
work
that
we
do
in
their
right-of-ways
and
expanding
that
into
community
community
protection
was
the
point
of
sp
508
matching
funds.
So
we're
looking
at
what
nv
energy
is
required
to
do
and
how
we
can
build
off
of
that
to
actually
make
a
community
fire
break
or
a
fire
break
for
sage,
grouse,
habitat
or
whatever.
H
B
H
Anticipate
that
this
contract
with
nv
energy
will
continue
beyond
2223
at
the
current
level,
whether
we
have
508
funds
in
the
future
to
match
or
not.
B
H
Energy,
none
of
these
projects
that
we
do
are
are
forever.
Unfortunately,
they
last
a
little
bit
longer
in
our
high
elevation
forested
stands,
but
in
our
lower
elevation,
rangelands
they're,
almost
on
an
annual
basis
of
maintenance
and.
H
That
we're
doing
right
now,
we've
treated
about
4,
000
acres.
To
date,
we've
got
multiple
entities
under
contract
to
continue
that
work,
and
so
we've
been
doing
a
lot
of
prep
work
on
getting
the
plans
in
place
and
the
people
in
place
to
do
the
work,
and
so
we
do
have
a
lot
of
that
going
currently,
and
we
anticipate
that
to
continue.
That
was
one
of
the
conversations
we
had
with
nb
energy
before
we
decided
to
put
permanent
positions
in
was
trying
to
determine
the
longevity
of
those
positions.
G
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
that
clarification,
and
I
also
there's
multiple
senate
bills.
So
I
know
I
believe
it
was
senate
bill,
329
related
to
envy
energy's
disaster
response
planning
that
that
is
helping
to
contribute
to
some
of
this
collaboration
as
well,
and
so
it
sounds
like
even
without
the
matching
funds.
Envy
energy's
plans
and
activities
and
investments
under
those
plans
can
support
these
positions
for
the
somewhat
foreseeable
future,
and-
and
I
think
you
touched
on
this
at
the
end
of
your
last
response.
G
But
you
know
if,
if
something
happens
and
and
this
envy
energy
contract
and
funding
terminates,
there's
not
another
funding
source
identified
to
continue
to
support
these
permanent
positions.
If,
if
that
happens
at
some
point,
is
that
correct
we'd
have
to
identify
a
new
source.
H
G
All
right
well,
thank
you
for
that
clarification
and
it's
good
to
hear
that
it
seems
like
at
least
for
the
next
biennium.
We
have
a
plan
in
place
to
ensure
that
those
positions
are
funded.
Those
were
the
questions
that
I
had
and
I'm
sure
thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
assemblyman
assemblywoman,
titus,.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
I
thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
thank
you
for
trying
to
somewhat
limit
our
terrible
wildfire
situations.
I'm
I'm
going
back
to
the
the
contract
with
nv
energy
and
the
five
million
that
we
we
allocated
under
sb
508
you.
My
question
was
going
to
be
how
many
acres
were
actually
treated
and
I
believe
you
said,
you've
treated,
4,
000
acres
so
far
or
been
involved
in
4
000.
Acres
of
is
that.
H
Correct
just
thank
you
for
the
question
assembly,
one
titus
again
for
the
record:
casey
casey.
Yes,
we've
treated
about
just
over
four
thousand
acres
to
date,
but
we've
contracted
for
a
much
larger
amount.
H
Part
of
the
initial
build-up
of
these
contracts
was
getting
the
personnel
in
place
not
only
for
the
division
but
also
for
the
local
government
entities
that
are
now
under
contract.
It
didn't
bring
the
statistics
with
me
and
I
had
them,
but
I
should
have,
but
I
can
provide
them
to
you
in
in
a
more
specific
form.
It
you
know
today,
but
part
of
it
was
was
building
up
also
the
assets
at
local
government
to
ensure
one
additional
fire
response
when
necessary,
but
also
they
are
working
solely
as
resource
crews.
H
To
do
this
work
from
local
government's
perspective,
so
it
took
us
time
to
get
the
the
apparatus
and
the
personnel
hired
at
the
local
government
entity.
They
stole
a
lot
of
our
good
employees,
happy
for
them
bummed
for
me,
but
it
so
it
actually
really
is
a
good
partnership
and
hopefully,
a
sustainable
partnership
as
we
move
forward
that
gave
us
both
fire
suppression,
assets
and
natural
resource
assets.
As
we
move
forward.
D
Thank
you
for
that.
I
was
doing
the
math
and
that
actually
came
out
to
just
about
two
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
per
acre
of
that.
If
only
four
thousand
was
treated
for
ten
million
dollars
to
me
that
wasn't
very
productive,
so
you're
assuring
me
that
they're
within
that
ten
million
dollars,
there's
still
going
to
be
more
acreage,
treated.
H
Yes,
thank
you
for
the
question.
Assemblywoman
titus
again
for
the
record
casey
casey,
significantly
more
acreage,
we've
got
under
contract,
probably
closer
to
50
000
to
a
hundred
thousand
acres.
The
four
thousand
acres.
If
we
looked
at
the
cost
to
date,
have
been
insignificant.
Most
of
the
costs
have
been
spent
in
just
planning
we've.
I
I
bet
from
the
division
standpoint
we're
just
under
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
expenditures.
D
All
up
ma'am
chair
one
last
question:
please:
yes,
yes!
So
so
I
I
think,
that's
where
I'm
really
going
with
this
and
you
use
the
term
that
actually
treatment
of
this
4
000
acres
is
insignificant.
D
It's
really
about
building
up
to
it
and
that's
the
question
I
had
about
these
three
foresters
that
were
hiring
they're
not
actually
going
to
be
pulling
up
brush
or
doing
any
fire
mitigation
they're
just
going
to
be
more
of
a
planning
and
assisting
others
on
where
to
treat
and
what
to
do
they're,
not
actually
getting
their
hands
dirty
question.
D
H
You
for
the
question
again:
assemblywoman
titus
for
the
record
casey.
They
will
actually
be
getting
their
hands
dirty
and
their
feet
and
their
shoes.
They
will
be
out
there
in
the
world
with
everyone
else.
Their
job
is
to
plan.
So
they
write
the
plans
they
get
all
the
cultural
and
sensitive
species
clearances.
H
We
make
sure
that
we're
working
with
our
partners
at
endow
to
ensure
that
we're
looking
at
habitat,
in
addition
to
fuel
reduction,
all
of
those
types
things
we're
working
with
ag
on
noxious
weeds
as
we
planned
for
these
projects,
but
they
are
also
out
there
they're
hauling,
the
chippers
out
there
or
the
masticators
or
whatever
the
equipment
is
and
oftentimes
they're
the
ones
running
that
equipment.
So
great.
D
Great
thank
you
for
that.
I
just
I
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
an
understanding
that
this
is
an
ongoing
process.
This
stuff
grows
back
in
five
years.
It's
going
to
be
the
same
problem,
so
I
appreciate
all
that
you're
doing
and
it's
going
to
take
a
lot
of
effort
and
continual
effort
to
replant
our
our
state.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
what
you're
doing.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
the
question.
A
Thank
you
assemblywoman.
Next
up
we
have
senator
brooks.
G
I
thank
you
chair
miller,
my
question's
on
e805
that
new
education
information
officer
position.
You.
F
H
Yes,
thank
you
for
the
question
senator
brooks
again
for
the
record
casey
casey
the
benefits
of
this
type
of
position.
As
you
know,
they're
they're
twofold
one.
As
I
had
stated
earlier,
the
state
of
nevada
owns
about,
I
think
it's
less
than
one
percent
of
the
land
base
from
a
jurisdictional
percentage
in
the
state
by
contract
with
local
government
entities
we're
just
under
11
the
federal
agencies
own
about
85.
H
With
our
fires
increasing,
we
saw
a
huge
increase
in
human
starts
this
this.
F
H
Part
of
the
the
issue
is
getting
that
education
and
awareness
out,
so
we
need
somebody
who
has
the
expertise
well
in
natural
resource
management
and
fire
management
to
help
us
get
the
word
out
on
one.
What
the
programs
we
have
to
offer
that
can
assist
communities
in
reducing
their
risk,
also
assist
counties
in
reducing
their
risk.
B
H
We
we
have
programs
such
as
where
we
provide
equipment
and
supplies
to
county
fire,
volunteer
fire
departments
and
county
fire
departments
in
order
to
reduce
risk,
we're
looking
at
fuel
reduction
projects,
we're
looking
at
insect
disease
projects,
so
so
getting
that
education
out
there
on
a
consistent
basis,
so
that
people
understand
that
we
are
here
to
help
and
there's
money
sometimes
available
for
that
assistance.
H
F
H
Is
available,
we
do
have
the
ability
to
provide
the
technical
assistance
and
then,
during
actual
emergency
response.
It's
critical
that
we
have
a
person
qualified
to
give
accurate
and
timely
information
on
things
like
road
closures
in
areas
where
that
is
within
our
jurisdiction
and
we're
responsible
for
pushing
the
information
to
the
media
and
to
the
constituents.
H
H
A
We
have
one
final
question
on
e681:
if
that's
okay,
assemblywoman
peters,.
J
Thank
you,
chair
and
I'll
keep
it
brief.
I'm
just
curious
if
you
can
describe
the
impact
of
the
reduced
uniform
allowance
on
personnel
and
operations.
H
Thank
you
for
the
question,
assemblywoman
peters
again
for
the
record
casey
casey.
There
is
an
impact.
The
uniforms
that
we're
speaking
of
in
this
direct
e681
are
the
uniforms.
Like
you
see
me
wearing
they're
the
agency
uniforms,
worn
by
field
staff.
J
H
Did
reduce
our
uniform
budget
last
year
completely
in
order
to
try
to
meet
cuts
without
trying
to
lay
off
staff,
but
as
we
looked
at
what
we
historically
give
back
in
uniform
allowance,
this
is
not
a
ppe
allowance
for
firefighting
personnel.
We
will
speak
to
that
in
a
minute
in
budget
account
4196,
but
this
is
this
is
simply
the
agency
identifying
uniform
allowance.
So
we
were
hopeful
that,
with
this
cut,
this
is
a
much
smaller
cut.
J
Field
just
follow
up
just
real
quick
when
you
talk
about
the
uniform.
Do
you
also
include
the
pants,
or
are
employees
expected
to
provide
their
own
pants
just
in
a
specific
color
and
style.
H
I
H
Employees
that
are
that
are
given
a
uniform
allowance,
so
everything's
within
that
allowance,
that's
necessary
when
we
get
to
budget
account
4196
all
of
the
personal
protective
gear
for
wildland
firefighters
is
also
provided.
J
H
Okay,
the
next
budget
is
budget
account
49
196.
This
is
our
emergency
suppression
account
which
is
primarily
for
fire
suppression,
but,
as
stated
in
a
little
earlier,
we
do
actually
provide
assistance
for
other
natural
resource
or
natural
disasters
by
request
by
from
other
agencies
who
have
that
responsibility.
So
this
emergency
response
account
to
wildland.
Fires
also
includes
the
movement
of
local
government
assets
to
ensure
that
the
closest
available
forces
aggressively
fight
fires
in
and
out
of
nevada.
H
This
particular
account
is
funded
by
general
fund
and
wildland
fire
suppression,
reimbursements,
I'm
sure
you've
seen
multiple
times
me
coming
before
you
for
additional
requests
for
funds.
It's
an
interesting
account
we're
funded
at
a
base
level
based
on
a
five-year
historic
average
of
response,
minus
reimbursements
that
we
get
from
the
federal
agencies
and
so,
but
because
those
reimbursements
take
time.
I'm
often
before
you
asking
for
funds
and
then
those
funds
are
reimbursed
at
a
later
date
or
in
a
future
biennial.
H
The
the
enhancements
in
this
budget
account
this
time
is
a
reduction
to
the
wildland
fire,
personal
protective
equipment
by
286
000,
our
annual
fee
or
or
price
for
this
personal
protective
equipment
is
just
over
a
million
dollars.
We
felt
that
when
we
looked
at
so
just
so,
you
guys
understand
how
we
do
this.
These
items
are
replaced
based
on
a
useful
life,
life
of
the
equipment
or
the
personal
protective
gear,
and
we
have
them
in
stock
in
warehouses.
F
H
We
move
that
stock
around
based
on
on
need,
but
we
also
have
a
smaller
warehouse
up
here
at
eastern
sierra
to
stock
those
goods.
So
we
believed
that,
with
the
stock
that
we
currently
have
on
hand,
we
would
be
able
to
manage
without.
This,
however,
did
put
a
qualifier
in
there
when
we
submitted
this
for
budget
reductions
to
meet
the
the
request
to
meet
these
reductions,
that
if
we,
if
it
was
necessary
for
firefighter
safety
to
replace
additional
equipment,
we
would
come
back
and
request
contingency
funds,
as
we
have
done
in
the
past.
H
There
is
a
big
round
number
of
10
million
dollars
sitting
before
you
for
this
supplemental.
H
As
of
yesterday,
our
future
liability
is
much
less
than
that
10
million
dollars
it's
about
just
under
3
million
2.9
million
dollars
at
our
best
and
most
accurate
con
figures
today.
H
A
Okay,
thank
you
for
this.
Actually,
I
would
like
to
ask
a
question
about
something
that
you
you
just
commented
on
about
some
of
the
fema
reimbursements
and
I'm
as
I'm
learning
more
about
this.
I'm
learning
that
it
can
take
up
to
two
years
to
get
some
of
these
federal
reimbursements.
A
H
You
for
the
question
chair
miller
again
for
the
record
casey
casey,
so
just
to
clarify
the
10
million
is:
is
the
potential
need
for
contingency
that
we
might
need
the
state
to
provide
in
order
to
pay
our
bills?
I
think
our
future
liability
is
much
less
than
that.
H
10
million
that's
about
3
million
out,
that's
assuming
that
we
get
about
3.2
million
dollars
in
reimbursements
and
we're
constantly
looking
at
these
spreadsheets
we're
providing
them
every
time
we
come
before
you
with
contingency
assets,
and
we
only
put
the
assumptions
in
there
that
we
really
think
we're
going
to
bring
in
this
year.
So
this
is
what
causes
you
know.
Volatile
fluctuations
in
this
budget
account
because
sometimes
we
do
get
paid
much
earlier,
I
will
say
our
federal
partners.
H
We
have
been
working
with
them
on
a
quicker
reimbursement
process,
and
so,
whereas
before
we
were
sitting
on
bills,
sometimes
for
five
years
and
cost
share
agreements
up
to
five
years,
we're
current
as
of
last
year's
fires
and
we're
getting
those
moved
a
lot
quicker
and
that's
a
testament
to
our
fire
billing
unit
and
this
for
staff
that
we
have
in
there
and
the
constant
communication
with
our
partners.
So
we're
pretty
confident
that
we
will
get
this
3.2
million
dollars
in
reimbursement
this
year.
Our
outstanding
future
fmag
reimbursements,
is
about
5.7
million
dollars.
H
But
we
don't
anticipate
that
in
this
year,
as
those
f
mags
were
new
as
of
this
year,
and
we
do
anticipate
that
being
probably
reimbursed
in
the
next.
A
Year,
okay,
thank
you
for
that,
because
I
think
you
know
I
I
believe
we
all
share
concerns
about
making
sure
that
we're
fully
equipped
and
staffed
and
prepared
for
what
I'll
say
is
the
next
forest
fire,
because
we
know
here
in
nevada,
it's
it's
just
something
that
we're
afflicted
with.
A
C
Thank
you
so
much,
and
thanks
for
all
that,
you're
doing,
I
know
that
we're
anticipating
or
we're
budgeting
286
000
in
each
year
of
you
know
reducing
our
reducing
our
operating
supply
expenditures
by
286
000
for
each
year,
and
I
know
you
said
that
oftentimes
we
have
to
come
back
to
ifc
to
backfill
that,
but
I'm
just
wondering
what
is
the
anticipated
impact
on
operations
as
a
result
of
those?
If
you
know,
between
the
time
we
come
back
to
ifc
to
backfill
that.
H
Thank
you
for
the
question
assemblywoman
tools
again
for
the
record,
casey
casey.
We
don't
anticipate
any
operating
impacts
as
from
the
well
I
mean
I
guess
we
could,
but
but
our
goal
is
to
always
ensure
that
our
staff
leave.
If
they're
going
on
initial
attack
or
or
extended
attack,
they
they
will
not
leave
without
the
proper
ppe
and
the
equipment
to
safely
do
their
job,
and
so
we
would
make
emergency
purchases
and
then
come
back
to
to
reimburse
those.
H
As
I
stated
earlier,
our
overall
reimbursement
is
just
over
a
million
dollars
for
that
type
of
ppe
and
with
stock
on
hand.
We
think
we
can
cover
this
shortage
without
huge
impacts.
This
year,
though,
if
we
did
see
those
we
would
be
looking
forward.
So
we've
been
watching
our
stock
levels,
we're
making
sure
that
we
aren't
getting
behind.
So
as.
D
H
Start
to
see
something
like,
let's
say
our
nomex
pants
or
our
nomad
shirts,
which
protect
firefighters
when
they're
in
direct
contact
with
heat.
If
we're
getting
low
on
those,
we
actually
are
going
to
be
looking
for
that
contingency
ask
ahead
of
time,
so
we're
trying
to
plan
ahead
and
make
sure
that
we
don't
see
any
impacts
from
our
response
in
this
future.
2223
biennia.
C
Thank
you
for
that
for
thought
and
management,
and
if
I
may
madam
chair,
ask
a
follow-up.
Thank
you.
C
So
I
had
this
question
on
on
tuesday
for
our
state
fire
marshal,
because
you
know,
as
many
of
the
districts
across
the
state
mine
backs
up
to
be
one
miles
and
miles,
and
we've
had
63
homes
destroyed
or
damaged
in
the
last
10
years,
because
it
backs
up
to
that
blm.
And
so
you
could
help
me
understand
the
fire
detection
methods
that
we're
currently
using
and
where
does
that
fall
in
to
the
budget
in
terms
of
equipment.
B
H
Have
we
have
multiple
methods
of
detection?
Primarily,
you
spoke
to
one,
the
wildland
fire
cameras,
because
we
are
so
largely
owned
by
federal
agencies
in
the
state.
H
They
have
put
up
a
lot
of
cameras
throughout
the
state
using
our
infrastructure.
We
worked
with
nv
energy,
also
installing
some
of
those
cameras,
so
some
of
the
funding
in
our
sb,
508
and
and
the
energy
contract
will
go
to
installation
of
cameras.
We
looked
at
the
infrastructure.
Part
of
the
cost
savings
in
in
putting
those
cameras
up
is
areas
where
we
have
radio
repeaters
or
weather
stations
throughout
the
state
already
existing.
H
State
and
local
government
partners
and
envy
energy
and
non-traditional
partners
to
ensure
that
we've
got
good
coverage
around
the
state
that
we're
putting
them
up
in
the
right
places.
So
that's
that's
one
method
of
detection
highly
effective
when
you're
looking
at
those
are
accessible
to
the
public,
not
just
to
our
dispatch
center.
H
So
our
we
have
five
interagency
wildland
fire
dispatch
centers
throughout
the
state,
two
of
which
the
division
of
forestry
owns,
three
of
which
are
federally
run
and
owned,
but
we
have
staff
in
all
of
them,
and
so,
when
we're
looking
at
those,
our
dispatchers
are
constantly
watching
those
cameras,
seeing
if
they
see
a
start,
but
so
is
the
public
and
the
public
has
caught
many
of
those
starts.
H
The
and
the
call
in
from
anyone
who
sees
a
a
fire
what's
nice
about
a
fire
camera
so
when
what
helps
us
in
detection
is
oftentimes,
people
are
traveling
through,
or
even
people
who
have
grown
up
here,
like
myself,
are
kind
of
challenged
to
know
which,
which
range
you
might
be
looking
at
or
sometimes
which
direction
I'm
pointing
all
of
those
things.
So
when
they're
calling
into
9-1-1
that
information
is
not
always
accurate,
so
what's
really
nice
is
if
that
information,
the
9-1-1
center
gets
this
information.
H
They
go
immediately
to
a
fire
camera.
All
of
us
fire
agencies
have
the
ability
to
turn
those
cameras
in
360
direction,
to
see
where
we
might
see
us
where
we
might
see
flames
or
smoke,
and
then
we
know
exactly
where
that
is
and
can
I
can
look
at
it
and
see,
maybe
even
the
rates
of
spread
and
how
we
might
know
that
area,
and
so
it
might
actually
help
us
to
send
what
we
send
in
initial
attack
as
well.
H
So
we
have
multiple
methods
of
detection
and
all
of
those
things
have
to
kind
of
work
concurrently
to
to
make
the
response
happen.
So
local
government
is
the
first
response,
usually
to
most
of
these
fires,
it's
as
it's
within
their
jurisdiction,
concurrently
federal
if
it's.
If
these
fires
start
on
federal
or
state
lands
and
or
may
be
impacting
those
or
may
impact
those
in
the
future,
we
might
be
sending
a
response
as
well.
A
My
question
is
around
the
base
budget
expenditures
and
during
the
2019
legislature
there
was
an
approved
new
method
methodology
for
how
to
fund
fire
suppression
costs,
and
my
question
is:
could
you
just
confirm
that
the
base
budget
for
personnel,
fire
suppression
and
prior
years
cost
categories
should
be
adjusted
to
align
with
the
budgeting
that
was
approved?
The
budgeting
methodology
that
was
approved
by
the
2019
legislature,
based
on
the
five-year
averages
adjusted
for
the
cost,
supported
with
one-time
funding.
H
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Assemblywoman
monroe
moreno
again
for
the
record
casey
casey.
Yes,
we
have
been
working
with
lcb
staff
on
that,
as
submitted
by
the
agency.
We
use
the
methodology,
and
so
we
we
do
believe
it
should
be
adjusted
to
the
five-year
average
for
this
type
of
budget
account
with
so
much
fluctuation.
It's
really
the
only
way.
H
We
know
to
give
a
best
estimate
of
what
the
expenses
may
be
going
into
the
future,
knowing
that
we
may
have
a
larger
fire
season
than
anticipated
or
a
smaller
fire
season
than
anticipated
and
need
more
or
carry
forward
more
based
on
that.
But,
yes,
we
agree
that
it
should
be
adjusted
and
we
have
been
working
with
both
lcp
and
gfo
on
that
adjustment.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair
quick
question
early
on
in
this
presentation
for
this
particular
budget.
You
mentioned
that
you
moved
a
fund,
this
fund
that
was
originally
in
the
emergency
management
department
of
emergency
management
back
to
the
forestry
department.
D
H
Thank
you
for
the
question,
assemblywoman
titus
again
for
the
record,
casey
casey.
No,
I
I
don't
think
at
the
time
of
the
move
or
the
discussion
of
the
move.
So
so
I
will
say
it
didn't
come
with
a
budget
move.
H
It
came
with
a
shift
of
duties,
so
this
is
the
mutual
aid
response
and
the
response
of
local
government
to
ensure
that
we
are
dispatching
the
closest
available
resources
to
wildland
fires.
Primarily,
there
are
other
things
that
we
dispatch
when
federally
declared
or
like
say
for
the
covid
crisis,
we
have
dispatched
local
government
paramedics
to
other
states
to
help
give
shots
through
this.
H
Also,
so
this
move
came,
it
was
actually
brought
on
by
two
things:
one
a
request
from
lcb
and
gfo
to
look
at
the
expenditures
in
both
emergency
response
accounts
so
where
we
were,
we
had
24-hour
dispatchers
on
for
wildland
firefighting.
Ndem
also
had
dispatchers
on
for
wildland
firefighting
assets,
and
so
we
were
asked
to
look
at
a
consolidation
there.
In
addition,
our
federal
partners,
though
we
oftentimes,
are
angry.
H
Sometimes
you
know
at
them
not
really
this
one
of
the
things
that
they
were
doing
for
us
in
fire
management
was
using
a
reciprocal
fire
act
agreement
which
really
was
basically
for
those
entities
like
a
local
government
entity
and
a
local
like
the
humble
toy.
Obviously,
if
you
had
direct
adjacent
ownership,
it
meant
that
any
entity
you
didn't
have
to
call
each
other
to
respond.
If
you
guys
thought
that
this
was
going
to
be
a
threat,
then
you
directly
responded.
B
H
An
audit
at
the
federal
level
actually
found
that
they
for
federal
fires,
that's
okay,
but
for
other
state
fires.
That
was
not
really
the
best
use
of
the
federal
funds
to
play
the
banker
on
those
such
fires.
So
they
came
to
the
state
and
we
worked
with
the
governor's
office
to
see
if
this
was
something
that
we
could
then
help
as
it
would
affect
the
initial
attack
on
our
fire.
So
it
was
our
goal
to
ensure
that
we
had
closest
available
forces
which
includes
local
government
as
the
first
responders.
H
We
were
dispatching
these
quickly
to
try
to
get
fires
out
within
that
first
24
hours.
So
that's.
What
has
shifted
back
to
us
is
a
portion
of
that
mutual
aid
response
for
local
government,
and
we
are
working
currently
with
the
fire
districts
and
our
federal
partners
on
how
that's
going
to
work
either
through
our
dispatch,
centers
or
with
our
duty
officers
and
and
then
that
out-of-state
response
as
necessary
to
help
our
neighbors
as
when
we
need
them
to
help
us.
We
rely
on
that
as
well.
D
A
Thank
you
assemblywoman,
and
with
that
we
can
move
on
to
the
next
budget
and
for
the
sake
of
time,
I'm
going
to
ask
members
that
we
keep
our
questions.
Concise
and
also
our
response
is
concise,
please.
H
Okay,
the
next
budget
account
we
will
go
through
is
budget
account
4198.
This
is
our
conservation
camp
program
and,
as
you
are
aware,
this
is
a
partnership
with
the
nevada
department
of
corrections
that
provides
inmate
work,
crews,
national
level,
firefighter
and
natural
resource
training
and
certifications
to
reduce
recidivism
rates
in
nevada
prisons
while
implementing
natural
resource
protection,
including
wildland
fire
response
in
nevada.
This.
B
H
Account
supports
93,
full-time
employees,
13
of
which
are
held
for
budget
reductions
at
this
time
and
we'll
go
into
that
in
a
minute.
This
budget
account
is
funded
primarily
it's
a
general
fund
revenue,
split
of
about
70,
30.,
70
general
fund
30
revenue
from
projects
the
camps,
implement
you'll,
see
some
minuses
more
than
pluses
in
the
budget
account
this
year.
The
pluses
are
our
replacement
equipment,
as
we
talked
about
in
earlier
budget
accounts
software
hardware,
chainsaws,
stuff
necessary
to
implement
and
deferred
maintenance
projects.
H
We
have
nine
of
these
conservation
camps
around
the
state
and
the
facilities
are
in
varying
degrees
of
of
really
old
to
somewhat
new,
and
so
there
there's
always
projects
that
need
to
be
done.
We
held,
though
this
says,
12.,
it's
actually
13,
because
we
adjusted
though
we
held
11
crew
supervisors
and
one
camp
supervisor.
H
We
recognized
that
we
needed
to
hire
this
camp
supervisor.
It
had
been
vacant
for
over
a
year
held
in
the
earlier
budget
cuts,
and
we
had
an
acting
in
at
a
plus
five
for
almost
a
year,
so
we
needed
to
actually
hire
this
position
not
only
for
leadership,
but
also
so
we
traded
two
other
crew
supervisors,
which
is
how
you
get
to
the
13.
that
became
vacant.
Since
we
proposed
these
reductions
in
order
to
hire
the
camp
supervisor,
we.
B
A
Okay,
thank
you.
My
first
question
would
be
I
I
I
have
concerns
whenever
we're
discussing
reducing
training,
especially
when
you
know
this
training
soon
could
be
connected
specifically
to
life-saving
training,
life-saving
measures,
and
so
when
we're
talking
about
the
reduction
of
training
and
and
the
savings,
is
this
the
offset
because
of
the
held
positions
or
are
we
reducing
the
amount
or
the
type
of
training
that's
being
received?.
H
H
If
there
is
training
that
is
necessary,
we
do
have
grants
that
are
funded
through
the
forest
service,
so
we
were
hoping
to
be
able
to
temporarily
offset
any
mandatory
training
if
necessary,
above
and
beyond,
with
our
federal
grant
funds.
Okay,.
A
But
our
employees
and
and
inmates
the
whole
crew
they
will
still
receive
the
necessary
training
that
they
need.
Yeah.
Thanks
for
the
follow-up,
yes,
okay,
thank
you.
Senator
gokachia.
E
Adam
chair
and
I'll
be
brief.
I'm
very
concerned
about
the
reduction
in
those
vacant
positions,
especially
with
the
closure
of
the
white
pine
county
honor
camp.
There's
a
huge
void
in
eastern
nevada.
You've
got
a
lot
of
resource
work,
booked
that
isn't
getting
accomplished
and
especially
fuel
reductions
on
right-of-ways
and
fire
breaks.
H
Be
you
for
the
question
senator
gokachu
again
for
the
record
casey
casey.
This
is
going
to
impact
our
ability
to
get
work
completed
on
the
ground,
and
we
said
when
we
submitted
the
reductions.
We
knew
that
when
we
made
this
decision,
it
was
based
on
looking
at
the
budget
account
and
historic
averages
of
about
10
vacancies
in
this
budget
account
per
year.
So
this
isn't
a
huger
than
that
reduction.
We
historically,
because
these
are
entry
level
positions
we
tend
to
run
about.
H
10
vacancies
in
this
budget
account
every
year,
almost
all
the
time,
and
so,
but
this
will
reduce
our
ability
to
send
crews
out.
It
will
also
reduce
our
ability
to
have
the
wild
and
fire
response
we've
historically
seen.
However,
it
was
it
was
tough
to.
It
was
tough
for
all
of
us
to
make
those
budget
cuts,
but
when
you
were
looking
at
the
possibility
of
having
to
lay
people
off
or
or
cut
the
vacant
positions
that
were
sitting
there
vacant,
that's
what
what
our
choice
was.
A
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
Senator
dennis.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
just
want
to
follow
up
to
your
question.
There's
a
couple
ways
that
you're
trying
to
create
some
savings
and
one
is
through
the
uniform
allowance
and
you're
you're
you're
doing
a
savings.
I
believe
it's
109
000
general
savings
fund,
but
and
you've
indicated
that
if
they,
you
know
if
they
that
they
might
have
to
wait,
keep
their
uniforms
longer
or,
but
if
they
need
to
replace
it,
they
might
have
to
do
that
on
their
own.
E
But
nrs281
121
requires
the
uniform,
so
they're
still
going
to
end
up
having
to
get
that
uniform
right.
So
there
probably
won't
be
as
big
a
savings
as
we're
as
being
budgeted.
Is
that
correct.
H
Thank
you
for
the
question
senator
dennis
again
for
the
record
casey
casey.
We
do
anticipate
that
this
saving
will
be
realized.
It's
the
general
fund
has
been
taken
if
there's
a
need
for
people
to
replace
uniforms,
but
because
they
actually
need
the
uniform.
We
would
look
at
salary
saving
or
operating
savings
in
other
portions
of
the
budget
account
and
get
the
approval
to
to
move
that
money
into
to
cover
what
we
might
need
in
uniform.
H
So
we
will
look
at
that
if
it's
necessary,
we
do
need
to
provide
the
uniforms
part
of
the
reason
we
looked
at
uniforms
as
a
savings
was
looking
at
historical,
what
we
have
sent
back
and
and
what
we
actually
spend
in
uniform
budgets
every
year.
So.
H
E
Thank
you,
and
just
as
a
follow-up,
so
to
the
the
chairs
question
on
the
training
you're
going
to
do
the
mandatory
stuff
but
you're
the
the
other
training
you're
not
going
to
do,
and
is
that
going
to
have
a
what
kind
of
impact
does
that
create
for
you
if
you're
not
doing
those
other
trainings.
H
Thank
you
senator
dennis
again
for
the
record
casey
casey.
We
will
provide
all
mandatory
training.
We
can't
send
fire
crews
out
without
that
training
they
would
not
be
qualified
for
the
standard
that
we
we
adhere
to.
H
We
will
still
provide
the
training,
the
other
trainings,
that
we
can
in
natural
resource
management
the
goal
of
trying
to
get
these
inmates
trained
to
a
level
where
then,
when
they
return
to
the
outside,
they
could
get
a
job
in
this
and
they
do
and
oftentimes
what
we
see
them
going
into
more
often
than
firefighting,
though
we
do
see
that
is
into
the
tree
care
industry.
So
we
will
continue
to
provide
that
this
cut
was
intended
to
be
commensurate
with
the
amount
of
staff
we
were
reducing
in
the
budget
account.
So.
F
H
Hope
is
to
continue
all
mandatory
and
non-mandatory
training
for
the
staff
that
still
exist
and,
like
I
said
we
do
have
some
grant
funding
to
assist
with
that.
The
temporary
through
this
biennial.
H
Okay,
the
next
one
is
budget
account
4194
our
wildland
fire
protection
program
budget
account.
This
budget
account
is
is
for
wildland
fire
prevention,
mitigation
and
suppression
in
cooperation
with
local
government.
This
budget
account
supports
15,
full-time
positions,
primarily
firefighters
and
24,
seasonal
firefighter
positions,
including
dispatchers,
in
our
interagency
dispatch
centers.
This
is
fully
funded
by
county
participation
fees
in
the
wildland
fire
protection
program.
There
are
no
enhancements
in
this
budget
account,
so
I'm
just
going
to
give
a
brief
overview
of
where
we
are
with
this.
H
Our
goal,
as
as
we
have
said
many
times
going
into
this
wildland
fire
protection
program,
was
full
participation
across
the
state.
We
are
very,
very
close
to
that
at
about
95
participation
in
jurisdictions.
H
Our
non-participants
primarily
lie
in
clark,
county,
mineral
county
and
a
portion
of
general
lion
that
does
not
have
a
fire
protection
district
responsible
for
that
response,
and
really
because
of
the
transfer
of
this
the
new
state
park,
it
falls
under
the
division
of
forestry
for
response.
A
H
As
you
know,
I
presented
that
we
had
changed
the
formula
since
the
inception
of
this
program.
We
did.
We
had
based
participation,
fees
on
on
professional
understanding
of
fire
risk
and
cost
in
these
jurisdictions,
but
we
did
not
have
a
formula
to
back
that.
H
Last
year
we
worked
with
the
participating
entities
and
did
create
a
formula
based
on
wildfire
risk
occurrence
of
wildfire
in
their
jurisdiction
on
the
lands
on
the
state
and
pride,
not
state,
sorry,
private
lands
and
county
lands
for
which
they
are
jurisdictionally
responsible
that
excludes
the
federal
and
state
lands
within
their
jurisdictions,
the
values
at
risk
and
the
unreimbursed
cost
to
the
state
on
behalf
of
that
jurisdictional
entity.
So.
H
B
H
Our
numbers
for
the
22-23
contracts,
we.
F
H
H
As
you
might
remember,
in
the
last
biennia
because
of
this
formula
being
put
in
place,
some
entities
primarily
elko
county
and
humboldt
county
who
have
a
lot
of
private
land
who
have
large
fire
occurrence
and
large
fire
risk
their
in
their
portion
of
the
buy-in
to
the
program
increased
significantly.
So
we
were
trying
to
in
incrementally
increase
them
up
to
the
current
buy-in
rate.
We
do
not
anticipate
having
anybody
at
an
incremental
rate.
This
year.
Everyone
will
be
bought
in
in
full
or
opt
out
of
the
program.
F
H
Did
present
the
run
of
the
2223
numbers
to
the
wildfire
protection
program
committee,
which
is
consists
of
non-participating
entities
and
participating
entities,
including
elko
and
clark
county,
to
ensure
full
participation
we
presented
this
last
week.
I
do
believe
we're
going
to
see
an
inc.
I
I
think
we're
going
to
see
everyone
stay
who's
currently
in,
and
I
think
the
increases
we'll
see
this
year
are
clark
county
fire
protection,
district
moapa
and
mount
charleston.
So
we
do
anticipate
increased
participation
based
on
the
current
formula
and
risk
and
cost
to
the
state.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
I
believe
assemblyman
watts
has
a
few
questions.
G
Yes,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
just
looking
at
some
of
the
details
about
this
program
and
how
it's
operated
in
the
past,
it
seems
like
previously
the
the
costs
of
the
incident
responses
have
exceeded
the
assessments
paid
by
participants
at
times.
So
I
was
just
wondering
if
the
the
annual
revenue
target
for
this
program
for
the
biennium.
H
Thank
you
for
the
question
assemblyman
once
again
for
the
record
casey
casey,
the
the
goal
of
the
program
was
to
help
provide
local
government
with
a
more
sustainable
budget
process
for
wildland
fire,
it's
obviously
increasing
across
the
state
and
it's
very
hard
for
local
jurisdictions
to
budget
for
the
up
and
down
of
fire
seasons,
and
so
the
participation
rate.
This
gets
a
little
complicated.
These
funds
actually
fund
ndf's
firefighters,
so.
J
H
Is
what
the
participation
rate
has
been?
The
cap
of
the
rate
has
been
set
at
what
the
division
needs
to
pull
in,
to
pay
for
our
firefighters
and
then
the
the
costs
of
the
fire
have
come
out
of
budget
account
4196.
H
So,
but
we
do
believe
that
it's
a
fair
rate,
I
don't
think
our
intent
was
ever
to
have
them
pay
fully
for
those
fire
costs.
It's
a
partnership.
We
all
have
to
work
together
and
I
don't
think
local
government
could
ever
budget
appropriately
for
the
fire
seasons
that
they're
seeing.
So
we
may
look
at
that.
H
If
we
are
ever
successful
in
getting
the
swap
of
a
general
funded
fire
service,
as
our
our
fire
response
should
not
be,
does
not
necessitate
it,
it's
hard
art,
it
doesn't
fluctuate
based
on
participation,
it's
necessary
to
be
an
emergency
partner
with
that
amount
of
staff,
whether
we
have
elko
participating
or
not.
What
does
fluctuate
is,
if
say,
elko
county
decides
to
opt
out
of
the
program,
then
elko
county
would
then
be
responsible
for
paying
for
all
their
own
fire
bills.
Negotiating
land
use
agreements
when
the
fires
on
their
land.
E
G
Thank
you
for
that.
On
that
note,
and
I
think
you
mentioned
that
it
seems
like
everyone's
going
to
continue
participating.
Do
you
expect
any
increase
in
participation
over
the
upcoming
biennium
in
this
program?.
H
Thank
you
for
the
question,
assemblyman
watts
again
for
the
record:
casey
casey.
Yes,
we
spoke
to
clark
county.
We
put
them
specifically
on
clark,
county
fire
protection
district
on
the
committee
that
helped
us
formulate
the
formula
so
that
we
could
we
could
try
to
ensure
that
they
had
some
buy-in
to
the
process.
I
do
believe
we're
going
to
see
clark
county
fire
protection
district
join
if
clark
county
joins,
we
believe
moapa
and
mount
charleston
will
also
join
because
they're
all
they're,
all
under
the
same
board
of
directors.
H
H
Boulder
city
participating
as
their
fire
risk
is
fairly
low.
General
lyon
again
doesn't
have
a
fire
protection
district
that
would
necessitate
a
buy-in
and
we
don't
anticipate
monroe
county.
So
we
would
be
closer
to
about
98
percent
participation,
though
mineral
county
may
come
in
with
the
movement
of
assets
off
district.
So
that's
still
something
we
are
constantly
working
with
them
on.
G
Great
thank
you
for
that,
and
I
have
one
last
question.
If
I
make
briefly
on
the
reserves-
and
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
could
explain-
or
maybe
this
is
also
again
related
to
the
formula
which
I
understand
is
complicated,
why
did
you
decide
to
reduce
the
reserve
in
this
budget
with
decreased
assessments
to
the
participants
instead
of
transferring
excess
funding
to
the
fire
suppression
budget,
to
support
incident
response
costs.
H
Thank
you
for
the
question
again.
If
some
women
wants
for
the
record
casey
casey
our
determination
for
reducing
the
assessments
this
year
was
trying
to
get
the
counties
that
we
were
incrementally
increasing
to
an
increased
level,
but
continue
that
participation
for
them,
and
so
with
with
ensuring
everyone
was
paying
at
full
rate.
H
So
we
looked
at
and
because
those
reserves
are
carried
forward
for
fire
staff,
we
were
looking
at
the
reduction
of
those
and
the
reduction
of
the
overall
cost,
because
we
didn't
need
to
bring
in
quite
as
much
because
we
had
those
reserves
in
excess.
We
could
have
transferred
them
over
to
pay
fire
bills
as
well.
We
have
done
that
historically,
but
then
replaced
them
as
money
has
come
in
in
response,
as
the
funds
are
brought
in
to
pay
for
the
fire
staff.
H
So
our
goal
was
to
ensure
that
we
got
full
participation
or
near
full
participation
and
still
kind
of
created.
A
sliding
scale
for
those
who
who
elco
county,
for
example
in
the
current
formula,
would
come
in
at
just
over
eight
hundred
thousand.
I
think
it's
eight
twenty
eight,
but
their
full
buy-in
rates
1.1.
H
So
this
would
give
them
that
sliding
scale.
We
understand
that
for
some
counties
during
the
time
of
cobit,
just
like
for
the
state,
they're
severely
impacted
in
their
ability
to
increase
their
budget
accounts
for
this
type
of
service,
and
they
would
be
coming
back
to
the
state
for
fire
suppression.
Should
they
take
this
on
themselves?
We
believe
it's
better
to
have
an
agency
making
sure
that
the
best
interest
in
cost
is
insured.
H
So
we
have
staff
on
all
the
fires,
making
sure
that
the
costs
are
contained
as
best
they
can
be
and
and
that
we're
looking
at
those
types
of
things,
things
are
moved
on
and
off
appropriately
for
cost
containment.
So
we
believe
that
providing
that
service
to
local
government
is
something
that's
important
as
a
partner
going
forward.
H
G
Challenges
that
many
local
governments
are
facing
and
to
try
and
ensure
that
we
get
that
maximum
participation
rate
that
you
were
describing
previously.
Yes,
thank
you
very
much.
Miss
casey.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
your
questions.
A
H
The
purpose
of
this
budget
account
is
to
provide
conservation,
plant
materials
for
restoration,
fire
rehabilitation
and
habitat
enhancement
projects
and
increase
the
utilization
of
forest
by-products.
As
we're
doing
these
large
landscape
scale
projects,
we
have
very
little
industry
within
the
state
of
nevada.
So
we're
constantly
trying
to
create
that
industry
to
support
the
offset
of
the
project
costs.
B
H
Budget
account
supports
four
full-time
positions
and
two
seasonal
positions
at
our
state:
tree
nurseries,
one
in
washoe
valley,
one
in
las
vegas,
and
it
is
fully
funded
by
revenue
generated
from
these
programs
and
product
sales.
There's
no
general
fund
in
this
budget
account
if
we
move
to
the
enhancements
this
year.
All
of
these
enhancements,
the
division
was
tasked
with,
with
looking
at
a
strategic
plan
for
the
viability,
the
long-term
viability
of
all
three
programs
under
this
budget
account,
and
we
did
that
last
year
for
the
nursery.
H
So
we
looked
at,
how
were
we
going
to
be
able
to
sustain
sales
in
both
seed
and
conservation
equipment
or
conservation
plant
materials
over
the
long
term?
As
with
many
of
our
programs,
we
are
running
very
old
equipment
in
in
old
facilities,
and
so
that
became
our
priority
was
to
replace
some
of
this
equipment.
B
H
Reserves
in
order
to
increase
efficiencies,
so
the
enhancements
you
see
here
are
primarily
to
replace
our
forklift
is
24
years
old
and
it
is
actually
non-operational
so
currently
when
we
get
deposit
when
we
get
deliveries
of
large
seed
or
propagation
materials
such
as
soil
or
soil
amendments
they're,
delivered
on
pallets
and
right
now
we're
having
to
hand
undo
the
pallets
and
move
each
one
of
those
things
into
a
facility
to
secure
it
until
we
use
it,
it's
highly
intensive
in
labor,
and
so
our
goal
is
to
get
a
forklift
that
works,
so
we
can
move
these
things
more
efficiently.
H
The
second
one
in
e
720
is
a
dump
trailer.
This
is
actually
in
for
in
the
las
vegas
nursery.
It
replaces
a
non-operational
dump
truck.
Our
dump
truck
has
been
non-operational
since
2019,
so
we've
been
trying
to
move
things
around
the
nursery
with
again
labor
and
it's
highly
intensive.
Our
dump
truck
was
31
years
old.
H
So
we,
what
we
are
hoping
is
the
trailer
will
provide
some
efficiencies
in.
It
takes
a
lot
less
to
maintain
a
trailer
than
it
does
a
vehicle
with
an
engine
and
all
of
those
things
plus.
It's
a
little
more
movable
around
our
facilities,
so
we
can
move
in
and
out
of
areas
we
were
unable
to
do
with
the
dump
truck.
This
moves,
soils
and
plant
materials
and
all
of
the
things
that
we
use
to
plant
the
plants
around
the
las
vegas
facility.
H
H
A
lot
of
the
materials
and
those
get
moved
up
for
sale
up
here
at
the
washoe
nursery.
In
addition,
we're
looking
at
soil
mixers.
Currently
we
have
a
highly
labor
intensive
hand,
mixing
process.
It
takes
a
multitude
of
things
to
mix
soil,
to
make
sure
that
it
holds
enough
water,
but
not
too
much.
Water
has
all
the
minerals
and
nutrients
necessary
to
to
feed
and
sustain
plants
as
they
grow,
so
that
we
have
a
good
quality
product
sold
when
we
put
it
out
there.
B
H
H
It
will
save
us
a
lot
of
time
in
the
in
the
labor
intensive
personnel
side
and
hopefully
we'll
lower
our
cull
rates
over
time.
A
lot
of
our
our
death
of
plants
is
due
to
buildup
of
water
or
not
the
proper
drainage
of
water.
Due
to
the
way
we
mix
our
our
soil,
and
so
hopefully
this
will
reduce
the
coal
rate,
so
we
have
more
sales
going
forward,
and
with
that
I
would
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
A
Great,
we
have
a
few
questions
from
senator
brooks.
G
H
Thank
you
for
the
question
senator
brooks
again
for
the
record
casey
casey
and
we
we
have
a
backlog
of
deferred
maintenance
in
this
budget
account.
There
were
many
of
those
things
that
have
been
pushed
forward.
As
you
know,
we're
kind
of
spot
fired
a
spot
fire
with
a
lot
of
these
things.
We
didn't
anticipate
a
large
wind,
taking
out
our
greenhouse
up
here
in
the
washoe
valley,
so
that
then
took
precedence
over
some
of
the
other
deferred
maintenance
projects
that
we
had.
H
So
we
had
to
immediately
replace
the
cover
or
the
skin
on
that
greenhouse
in
order
to
help
the
survival
survivor,
ability
of
the
plants
that
were
within
and
for
some
growing
contracts.
So,
as
with
most
of
our
deferred
maintenance
projects,
we
anticipate
moving
forward
with
all
those
required
for
life
safety,
making
sure
that
we
have
the
facilities
appropriate
for
the
the
products
that
we're
producing
out
there.
H
However,
as
things
pop
up,
our
well
has
has
gone
bad
a
couple
years
running
so
as
as
those
issues
tend
to
pop
up
those
tend
to
take
priority,
so
we
tend
to
push
the
different
some
of
those
deferred
maintenance
projects
forward.
Our
goal
is
to
get
through
the
ones
we
provided
that
were
life
safety
in
the
budget
account.
H
However,
again
we
would
be
looking
at
if
something
else
popped
up
in
the
interim,
then
we'd
have
to
move
to
that
and
then
ask
make
sure
that
we
asked
first
that
that
be
our
priority,
but
then
fix
those
things.
B
G
Of
the
55
deferred
maintenance
projects
that
are
that
are
in.
H
Thank
you
for
the
question.
I
I
don't
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
I
could
get
that
to
you
our
antis.
We
could
give
you
a
list
of
the
anticipated
timelines
for
that
and
then,
as
I
said,
those
may
adjust
based
on
incidents
that
happen,
but
I
could
get
that
to
you.
G
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
and
last
question
where's
your
las
vegas
nursery
operation.
F
H
You
for
the
question
casey
casey
again
for
the
record
it
is
in
what
is:
is
it
floyd
lamb
state
park?
So
if
you're?
Well,
it's
not
a
state
park
anymore.
It's
a
county
park.
So
when
you
pull
into
the
the
floyd
lamb
and
you
go
past,
the
ponds
we're
around
the
corner
and
you
wouldn't
know
we're
there
and
it
used
to
be
the
outskirts
of
town.
There
wasn't
homes
directly
adjacent
and
around
it,
but
that's
where
the
las
vegas
facility
is.
B
A
You
senator
with
that.
I
don't
see
any
additional
questions
right
now,
but
fireboard
and
casey.
I
would
just
like
to
thank
you
for
your
presentation
today
and
your
thoroughness
and
you're
just
utterly
being
prepared
for
every
single
question
we
we
have
for
you
today.
So
thank
you.
You
did
a
tremendous
job
today.
Thank
you.
H
Thank
you
very
much.
I
did
have
one
more
slide.
If
you
don't
mind
really
quick,
certainly
please,
and
it
was
just
a
general
slide
to
go
to
go
back.
I
just
wanted
to
briefly
speak
to
the
the
challenges
that
we
faced
and
I
do
actually
actually
spoke
to
many
of
them
earlier,
but
as
we
start
to
see
a
warming
climate,
we
are
seeing
an
increase
in
insect
and
disease
outbreaks
on
wildfire
currents
like
I
spoke
to
earth
earlier,
we're
seeing
an
increase
in
homes
in
the
wildland
urban
interface,
which
is
causing
cat.
J
H
Increase,
as
I
said
earlier,
not
only
our
suppression
response,
but
our
natural
resource
management
projects,
as
collectively
defined
in
these
high
priority
areas.
So
our
challenge
is
that
making
sure
that
we're
staffed
and
have
the
equipment
in
order
to
do
that.
So,
as
you
see
we're
constantly
shuffling
and
making
hard
decisions
to
make
sure
that
we
have
staff
trained
both
in
wildland
firefighting
and
natural
resource
management,
that
we
have
stable
funding
for
these
types
of
programs
and
that
we
are
actively
engaged
in
the
process
with
our
partners.
H
So
we
will
continue
to
try
to
adjust,
adjust
those
challenges.
We
have
seen
an
influx
of
a
few
people
leaving
in
the
last
couple
months
and
I
meet
with
all
of
them
as
they
leave
on
an
exit
interview
to
kind
of
discuss
what
we
can
do
better.
Some
of
them
were
fears
of
furlough
or
the
effects
of
furlough.
H
So
we
were
grateful
that
that
did
not
move
forward
into
the
new
biennia,
but
also
what
we're
seeing
is
some
frustration
with
our
ability
to
be
able
to
provide
the
the
resources
necessary
to
safely
do
jobs.
I've
been
before
you
many
times
asking
for
equipment.
I
last
bienia
asked
for
a
replacement
of
five
vehicles
that
were
over
250
000
miles
and
30
years
old
and
I'm
still
running
that
equipment.
H
Today
we
unfortunately
had
to
give
that
money
back
for
budget
reserves
due
to
the
covid
crisis,
and
we
understood
that
and
now
we're
going
to
be
running
that
equipment
into
this
biennial
again,
as
we
put
it
in
and
it's
it's
not
here,
and
so
it's
a
challenge
and
we
understand
that
we
try
to
adjust
based
on
these
things
and
ensure
that
staff.
So
we
are
currently
looking
at
how
we
can
move
equipment
from
some
areas
to
other
areas
to
make
sure
that
staff
have
what
they
need,
and
I
know
I'm
preaching
to
the
choir.
H
J
A
Thank
you
so
much
members,
if
you
do
have
any
additional
questions,
I'd
appreciate
if
you
could
ask
them
offline
just
because
we
know
that
we're
kind
of
moving
into
getting
close
to
a
floor
and
such
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
just
one
last
budget
to
cover
from
the
nevada
natural
heritage,
so
zabo
or
ziabo.
A
How
is
your
name
pronounced,
kristen.
B
A
Miss
zabo,
when
you
are
ready,
we
are
ready
for
you,
okay,.
B
Okay,
thanks
for
your
patience,
still
unmuted,
I'm
assuming
yeah
okay,
so.
F
B
Botanists
ecologists
and
data
and
database
managers
passionate
about
nevada's
biodiversity
and
rare
species.
The
division
is
a
member
of
the
nature
serve
network,
which
is
an
international
network
of
similar
programs
throughout
the
u.s,
canada
and
latin
america
that
provide
the
scientific
basis
for
effective
conservation
action.
B
The
division's
duties
are
outlined
in
nrs
232.1369
and,
as
stated
in
that
statute,
we
provide
expertise
in
the
areas
of
zoology,
botany
and
community
ecology,
including
the
study
of
wetland
ecosystems,
and
we
maintain
data
systems
on
the
locations,
biology
and
conservation
status
of
at-risk
plants
and
animals.
The
location
data
tell
us
where
the
species
occur.
B
B
B
The
result
is
a
relatively
straightforward
one
to
five
rank
or
what
we
call
s
rank
s
being
for
state
with
the
most
imperiled
are
ranked
as
s1
and
the
most
secure
and
abundant
ranked
as
s5
species
ranked
s1
to
s3.
So
the
critically
imperiled
imperiled
and
vulnerable
species
generally
become
our
tracking
priorities,
and
what
that
means
in
practice
is
that
these
species
are
our
priorities
for
which
we
actively
gather
and
maintain
information.
B
B
F
B
C
B
Of
the
rigorous
methodology
that
we
follow,
the
data
are
reliable,
vetted
rooted
in
science
and
objectivity
and
supported
by
documented
references.
Our
staff
is
constantly
adding
information
to
this
database,
and
this
is
important,
because
a
static
data
set
would
quickly
become
outdated
and
fail
to
meet
environmental
review
requirements
and
conservation
objectives.
B
B
C
B
H
B
H
B
The
divisions,
fundings
funding
for
personnel
and
operations
is
through
a
transfer
from
the
department
of
transportation
and
a
transfer
from
the
division
of
environmental
protection
through
a
federal
department
of
energy
grant
funds.
The
remaining
personnel
expenses
nature
serve
contributions,
fund
of
special
projects
used
to
enhance
nevada,
biodiversity,
data
and
database
run.
Sales
are
data,
request
fees
collected
for
certain
data
requests,
and
these
fees
are
reverted
to
the
department
of
transportation.
At
the
end
of
each
fiscal
year,.
B
We
have
three
enhancements
in
the
governor's
recommended
budget
I'll
go
through
the
second
two
quickly
and
talk
a
little
more
about.
The
first
e-710
is
for
equipment
replacement
according
to
the
eats
computer
equipment,
replacement,
schedule
and
e-800
is
an
adjustment
to
the
director's
office
cost
allocation,
which
is
detailed
in
budget
account.
4150.
B
B
B
H
B
B
B
J
Thank
you
chair.
My
first
question
has
to
do
with
the
updating
of
the
carbon
flow
data.
Understand
that
nevada
is
in
a
unique
situation
and
there's
not
some
there's
not
great
models
out
there
that
mimic
our
particular
habitats.
So
if
this
recommended
funding
is
approved,
when
does
the
agency
anticipate
incorporating
that
flow
data
into
the
state's
annual
greenhouse
gas
report.
B
Thank
you
for
the
question
kristin's
able
for
the
record,
so
the
plan
is
to
start
researching.
You
know
the
next
steps
to
use
this
funding
so
there's.
B
Different
ways
we
can
go
so
we
need
to
find
we
need
to
get
the
baseline
data.
That's
so
we
either
need
to
create
a
plan
to
create
the
baseline
to
get
to
find
the
baseline
data,
or
we
need
to
start
funding
projects
to
assemble
this
baseline
data.
B
I
I
B
J
I
think
most
entities
are
in
that
position
when
it
comes
to
climate
change,
vulnerability,
assessments
and
adaptation
planning.
I
do
encourage
you
to
look
at
some
of
the
tribal
efforts
that
have
been
funded
throughout
the
southwest
in
new
mexico
and
arizona,
I'm
sure
that
they
have
advanced
some
of
this,
this
area
for
those
high
altitude
deserts.
I
have
a
couple
more
questions
if
I
may
related
to
the
contract
funding.
J
If
that's
okay,
sure,
yes,
please
can
you
just
describe
how
the
agency
determined
that
that
200
000
was
an
appropriate
amount
of
funding
for
contracting
the
scientists
for
this
data
collection.
A
B
We,
I
just
weren't
quite
sure
you
know
where
to
start
or
how
we
were
going
to
start.
So
I
have
figured
out
in
the
last
couple
months
after
speaking
to
some
unr
people
that
it
does
take
about
fifty
thousand
dollars
to
fund
a
graduate
student
for
a
year
to
do
some.
You
know.
J
I
think
that's
fine.
I
mean
to
be
fair
when
talking
about
developing
a
program
like
this,
it
is
often
taking
a
bite
at
a
time
and
200.
000
is
not
an
unreasonable
grant
amount
for
a
project
like
that
in
my
experience,
but
I
do
expect
to
see
some
increases
in
in
those
rates,
as
you
guys
develop
the
plan
further,
and
can
you
just
describe
a
little
bit
what
your
anticipated
efforts
or
when
those
efforts
will
be
completed?
J
It
sounds
like
it's
kind
of
a
fluctuating
timeline
right
now,
but
you
have
an
idea
of
how
long
this
process
may
take
and
when
you
hope
to
get
data
fully
gathered
together
and
and
really
the
carbon
like
a
really
an
idea
of
where
you're
gonna
go
with
it
in
place.
B
Thanks
for
the
question
kristen
zabo
for
the
record-
oh
that's
a
tough
question.
I
would
hope
within
the
biennium
we
would
have
some
idea
of
where
we're
going.
I
think
it
is
really
important
to
start
with
a
plan
and
having
a
strategic
plan
related
to
all
of
this
would
probably
help
us
help.
Me
speak
a
little
better
about
it
all
and
give
us
a
better
timeline
and
again,
like
you
mentioned,
it
is
one
bite
at
a
time.
So
I
do
anticipate
this
being
an
ongoing
project
per.
J
Se,
at
some
point,
I'd
love
to
chat
offline
with
you
about
what
those
efforts
are
looking
like
in
other
states
and
across
the
country
and
see
if,
if
I
can
help
with
some
direction
at
all,
but
thank
you
for
your
responses.
G
Thank
you
so
much
for
recognizing
me,
madam
sharon,
a
little
bit
broader
for
the
department
of
conservation
and
natural
resources,
which
is
why
I'm
not
asking
you
specifically
to
respond
to
this
miss.
But
just
following
up
on
a
couple
of
things
one
is
you
noted
how
important
it
is
for
your
agency
to
really
undertake
some
of
the
direct
conservation
work,
that's
under
your
purview
and
that
that
work
continues
to
grow.
G
And,
of
course,
we
know
that,
given
the
the
kind
of
constraints
with
the
how
the
executive
budget
was
put
together,
some
difficult
decisions
have
had
to
be
made
about
what
to
prioritize.
But-
and
I-
and
I
completely
want
to
get
more
robust
data
to
inform
our
our
carbon
inventory
and
our
our
climate
plans.
I
know
earlier
we
heard
about
plans
to
try
and
bring
in
additional
funding
to
support
that
in
the
division
of
environmental
protection.
G
So
I
just
wanted
to
get
out
on
the
record
that,
while
I,
you
know
completely
support
these
efforts
overall,
I
just
have
some
questions
around
some
of
the
some
of
the
priorities
of
what
we're
deciding
to
move
forward
on
immediately
and
what
we're
not
and
again,
since
some
of
those
are
outside
of
the
purview
of
your
division.
You
don't
have
to
respond,
but
I
just
want
to
to
raise
that
as
well
with
the
members
other
members
of
this
committee
and
and
make
it
aware
for
the
department
as
well.
A
And-
and
thank
you
for
that
assemblyman
and
again
you're
more
than
welcome
to
take
that
offline
and
and
respond
offline
as
well,
miss
sabo.
With
that
seeing
no
additional
questions,
I
appreciate
we've.
We've
done
a
actually
a
tremendous
job
of
getting
through
so
many
budgets
today,
so
we
will
close
the
presentations
on
our
budget
and
our
one
last
item
today
before
we
adjourn
is
for
public
comments.
So
broadcasting,
if
you
could
please
chew
anyone
up
who's
who's,
calling
in
who's
in
line
to
make
public
comment.
A
F
F
F
H
F
A
A
F
Sure
this
is
michael,
the
public
common
line
is
open
and
working.
However,
we
still
have
no
callers
at
this
time.
A
Okay,
well,
I'm
glad
we
provided
a
few
more
moments
to
ensure
we
didn't
miss
anyone,
but
with
that
not
seeing
anyone
for
public
comment
again,
I
want
to
thank
all
the
presenters
today.
You
did
a
tremendous
job
of
getting
through
a
lot
of
material
and,
of
course,
all
the
members
for
asking
the
questions
that
you
know
we're
most
intrigued
and
interested
and
curious
about.
So
with
that
I
will
go
ahead
and
adjourn
this
meeting.
Everyone
have
a
great
day.
Thank
you.