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From YouTube: 5/6/2022 - Joint Interim Standing Committee on Judiciary
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A
All
right,
we
are
going
to
get
started
on
the
senate.
Sorry,
the
joint
interim
judiciary
committee,
I'm
so
used
to
it
even
after
all
these
months
and
welcome
everybody
to
our
committee.
Most
of
you
know
me:
I
am
senator
melanie
scheibel,
I
am
the
chair.
I
am
in
las
vegas.
We
also
have
members
joining
us
from
carson
city
and
also
from
their
own
homes.
So
we
have
a
couple
different
locations
all
together
through
the
miracle
of
technology.
A
I
know
that
most
of
you
have
attended
up
meetings
before,
but
I
just
want
to
give
everybody
kind
of
the
lay
of
the
land
so
that
anybody
who's
new
to
us
understands
sort
of
the
way
that
we
run
these
meetings.
They
are
marathons,
so
I
know
that
we
are
going
to
be
here
for
a
little
while
my
committee
members
know
that
they
are
welcome
to
stand
up
stretch,
grab
a
drink
of
water,
take
a
break
if
they
need
to,
and
so
I
just
ask
that
the
presenters
please
please,
you
know,
respect
that.
A
They're
human
beings
too,
don't
take
offense
to
it
and
understand
that
they
might
leave
and
come
back,
and
maybe
even
ask
you
a
question
about
something
that
they
missed:
that's
because
we
are
trying
to
get
through
so
much
material
in
such
a
short
period
of
time
and
with
that
being
said,
the
way
that
these
work
in
case
anybody
doesn't
know
is
that
we
have
presentations.
First,
we
have
questions
at
the
end
from
all
of
the
from
all
of
the
members.
A
There
is
a
public
comment
period
at
the
beginning,
there's
a
public
comment
period
at
the
end
and
we
will
probably
take
one
longer
break
for
lunch
as
close
to
noon
as
possible.
It's
a
couple
minutes
after
nine
now
so
at
a
good
breaking
point
I'll.
Try
to
give
you
guys
sort
of
a
heads
up
that
we're
looking
to
take
a
20
to
45
minute,
break
sometime
around
noon
and
because
I
know
that
everybody
it
looks
like
we
have
a
lot
of
people
here.
We
have
people
presenting
online.
A
If
you
do
have
scheduling
issues,
please
feel
free
to
bring
those
up
to
myself
or
the
staff
or
whoever
you
arranged.
Your
appearance
with,
and
we
can
make
adjustments
to
the
schedule
if
you
need
to
get
going
or
want
to
leave
and
come
back,
and
we
can
move
you
to
the
end
again
we're
all
working
as
a
team
here
to
get
through
all
of
this
information,
but
getting
through
it
doesn't
mean
that
we
don't
spend
the
time
necessary
to
hear
everybody
to
listen
to
your
updates,
your
information
and
your
concerns.
A
It
also
means
that
we
don't
cut
our
members
short
when
they
have
questions
and
want
to
have
conversations.
So
I
don't
want
anybody
to
think
that
I'm
trying
to
encourage
you
to
to
truncate
your
your
presentations
just
to
be
cognizant
of
the
fact
that
we
are
all
working
towards
the
same
goal
here.
So
with
that,
I
think
I
covered
all
of
the
housekeeping
type
stuff.
A
We
will
move
first
into
our
first
public
comment.
Section
everybody
who
wants
to
make
a
public
comment
can
make
a
public
comment.
Your
time
limit
is
three
minutes
per
person.
We
will
start
with
anybody
who
sorry
before
we
do
that
we
need
to
take
the
roll.
So
I
think
our
secretary
is
joining
us
from
carson
city.
A
Yes,
it
is
okay
for
some
reason,
you're
not
showing
up
on
the
screen
that
I'm
looking
at,
but
it
is
okay.
I
think
we
can
get
through
the
roll
without
the
video
feed.
So
if
you
go
ahead
and
call
the
roll,
please.
C
D
B
E
F
Present
and
assemblywoman
marzola
is
also
here.
She
forgot
to
press
the
speaker
button.
B
H
A
Here,
thank
you,
and
that
is
a
good
reminder.
If
you
are
speaking
in
person
when
you
come
to
the
table,
you
have
there's
a
little
button.
You
have
to
press
to
turn
your
mic
on.
That's
how
your
comments
get
included
in
the
record.
Even
if
you
speak
really
loud,
you
still
have
to
hit
the
microphone
button
and
we
also
ask
that
you
identify
yourself
every
time.
You're
speaking,
everything
is
being
transcribed.
A
So,
while
we
know
right
now
who
is
speaking
when
we
go
to
read
the
minutes
later,
it
is
incredibly
incredibly
helpful
to
our
hard-working
secretaries
and
staff
to
have
you
give
your
name
at
the
very
beginning
of
your
comments.
Every
time
you
comment
and
so
we'll
practice
with
some
public
comment.
Is
there
anybody
wishing
to
give
public
comment
here
in?
I
don't
see
anybody
here
in
las
vegas
coming
to
the
table
we'll
go
to
in
person
in
carson
city.
Maybe
my
colleagues
up
north
could
give
me
oh
perfect.
A
There's
nobody
in
carson
city
and
anybody
on
the
phone.
A
All
right,
then,
that
will
allow
us
to
get
into
the
rest
of
the
agenda.
A
And
we're
back
with
that,
we
are
ready
to
move
on
to
agenda
item
number
three.
We
are
making
great
time.
This
is
the
approval
of
the
minutes
from
the
april
8th
meeting
and
those
are
available
online
by
the
way.
If
any
of
you
are
following
along,
they
are
a
attachment
or
they're
uploaded
with
the
agenda
as
a
agenda
item,
I
would
accept
a
motion
to
approve
the
minutes
from
the
april
8th
meeting
so
move.
We
have
a
motion
from
assemblywoman.
A
A
Our
fantastic
policy
analyst
patrick
geinen
is
going
to
give
us
a
brief
overview
on
some
juvenile
justice
issues.
He
has
served
a
staff
on
the
juvenile
justice
subcommittee
or
committee
in
the
interim
for
many
years
now
he's
very
knowledgeable
on
this
subject,
and
so
I've
asked
him
just
to
sort
of
bring
us
all
up
to
speed
as
we
embark
on
juvenile
justice
day
here
at
the
joint
interim
committee.
E
Thanks
to
scheibel's
patrick
geinen,
for
the
record,
I
appreciate
the
kind
words
I
just
wanted
to
go
very
briefly
for
the
members
benefit
and
the
public's
benefit
this
morning
over
a
list
of
juvenile
justice
bills
that
were
approved
all,
except
for
one
of
them,
which
I'll
talk
about
in
a
minute.
E
From
last
session,
I've
provided
a
list
to
the
committee
and
if
you've
got
that
list
online,
all
the
bills
are
hyperlinked
so
that
you
can
go
to
the
bill
itself
if
you'd
like
to
and
the
bills
that
are
highlighted
on
the
list
are
those
that
were
requested
by
the
child,
welfare
and
juvenile
justice
committee,
the
ones
that
are
not
highlighted,
we're
not
the
purpose
in
in
listing
these
bills
for
you
today
and
going
through
them
briefly
is
because
virtually
all
of
them,
I
believe,
will
be
spoken
about
at
some
point
during
today's
meeting,
and
so
I
just
wanted
it
to
be
convenient
for
everyone
to
have
a
list
to
go
through
so
that
when
they're
mentioned,
if
you
want
to
look
at
them,
you
can
so
I'm
going
to
read
through
them
and
just
do
a
little
shorthand.
E
Very
briefly.
I
won't
go
into
lengthy
descriptions
of
the
bills
because
I
believe
that's
going
to
happen
during
the
meeting
today,
and
the
experts
in
the
room
will
be
able
to
answer
questions
about
those
bills
as
well
as
our
legal
counsel
should
any
come
up
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
questions
when
appropriate,
but
I'm
not
going
to
start
by
by
droning
on
about
the
bills
for
a
long
time.
E
Bill
7
made
changes
to
the
jurisdiction
over
certain
protection
orders
against
minors,
and
I
might
say,
I
think
that
if
any
of
these
aren't
going
to
be
mentioned,
it
might
be
senate
bill
7.
It
was
more
of
a
technical
adjustment
to
jurisdiction
in
the
courts,
but
it
may
come
up
so
I
wanted
to
list
it
here.
E
So
now
we're
on
to
the
juvenile
justice
committee
bills
from
last
session
senate
bill
356
required
a
study
of
housing,
youth
regionally
in
local
facilities
or
dcfs
facilities,
rather
than
farther
away
from
from
their
homes,
and
that
study
is
ongoing
and
there
will
be
a
report
required
later
on
in
this
interim
that
I
just
wanted
to
alert
the
committee
to
senate
bill
357
is
related,
and
that
requires
the
department
of
corrections
to
report
on
the
cost
of
housing
youth
who
have
been
tried
as
adults
at
the
lovelock
correctional
center.
E
In
the
past,
those
costs
had
not
been
broken
out
within
the
budget,
so
the
legislature
asked
for
dco
doc
to
do
that
for
us,
and
we
should
be
receiving
that
information
later
on
the
serum
as
well
senate
bill
365,
which
did
not
pass
sought
to
create
a
pilot
program
for
housing,
youthful
offenders
elsewhere,
then
lovelock,
again,
sort
of
a
regional
housing
model.
E
I
do
believe
that's
going
to
be
discussed
today
at
some
point
senate
bill
366
dealt
with
providing
housing
and
services
to
juveniles
that
are
deemed
incompetent
to
go
through
the
adjudication
process
senate
bill
385
asks
for
a
report
on
the
effectiveness
of
juvenile
front-end
diversion
programs.
I
believe
that's
going
to
be
mentioned
through
dcfs
today,
and
it's
a
sort
of
a
fiscal
matter
in
terms
of
whether
the
the
funds
that
are
being
used
are
being
used
well,
so
we
probably
will
hear
about
that
senate
bill.
E
398
is
the
last
one
on
the
list
and
it
requires
the
juvenile
justice
oversight
commission
to
submit
to
this
committee
an
update
to
their
five-year
plan.
That
deadline
is
later
this
year
and
the
jjoc
was
not
able
to
attend
today.
The
co-chairs
are
both
busy
and
couldn't
be
here
today,
so
we're
intending
to
have
them
back
in
july,
hopefully-
and
we
may
have
some
other
juvenile
justice
matters
come
up
again
at
the
july
meeting.
E
A
A
B
Good
morning,
chair
schaible
and
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
cindy
pitlock
and
I
serve
as
the
administrator
of
the
division
of
child
and
family
services.
I
brought
to
you
today
my
a
team
to
give
you
a
presentation,
but
I
wanted
to
introduce
myself
and
let
you
know
that
I
will
certainly
be
be
here
all
day
for
input
any
questions
and
to
help
steer
my
team,
so
I
will
turn
it
over
to
them
and
good
morning.
Everyone.
C
J
We'll
go
over
the
mission
of
the
nevada
juvenile
justice
system
and
the
mission
is
to
enhance
community
safety
by
promoting
positive
change,
positive
life
outcomes
and
accountability
for
youth
in
our
care
and
custody.
By
investing
in
highly
qualified
team
members,
our
values
is
to
provide
safety,
integrity
and
a
richness
of
diversity
and
create
opportunities
for
youth,
and
our
values
is
to
provide
a
comprehensive
array
of
services
to
our
youth
and
families.
J
Our
goals,
what
is
unique
about
the
juvenile
justice
system
in
nevada?
We
have
chosen
to
keep
juvenile
justice
system
under
the
department
of
health
and
human
services,
division
of
child
and
family
services.
Nevada
has
always
believed
that
youth
and
adults
should
be
treated
differently,
and
this
is
unique
to
nevada.
J
Next
slide,
you
will
see
the
youth
level
of
services
this
was
adopted.
Are
the
statute
62b
.625?
The
state
adopted
this
to
determine
the
risk
of
placement
and
service
provision
for
all
youth
coming
into
service?
And
if
you
look
at
the
domains,
it
looks
at
education,
attitudes,
peers
and
what
this
instrument
does
is
the
higher
the
youth
scores
on
this
instrument.
J
It
determines
the
length
of
stay
and
it
also
sometimes
determine
the
facility
that
they're
going
into,
for
example,
males
the
higher
they
are
would
likely
go
to
summit
view
and
not
always,
but
with
the
girls,
because
we
have
one
facility
that
currently
serve
girls.
At
this
time
would
go
to
caliente
next
slide
talk
a
little
about
the
facilities
within
the
state
summit
view.
Youth
center
is
our
locked
facility.
It
has
48
beds
and
currently
has
a
census
of
48..
J
It's
with
it
serves
our
highest
risk
males,
and
that
is
the
age
up
to
20,
and
the
education
is
provided
by
clark.
County
school
district
programs
within
summit
view
are
positive,
behavior
intervention
and
supports
also
they
use
the
yls
to
determine
services
within
the
facility,
and
there
are
also
lots
of
treatment
and
therapy
and
trades
for
the
population.
J
Next
slide:
nevada:
u
training
center,
which
is
in
the
north.
It
is
staff
secured
and
64
beds,
currently
has
a
capacity
of
64..
It's
medium
risk
for
males
up
to
20
years
old.
What
we're
also
looking
at
is
seeing
if
we
can
add
girls
to
that
population,
so
that
we
will
have
two
facilities
that
are
serving
females
in
the
state.
The
education
is
provided
by
independence
high
school
and
they
also
have
programming
for
wrestling
and
they're
part
of
the
work
cruise
and
vocational
training
next
slide.
J
Then
there's
caliente
youth
center
has
112
beds,
seven
cottages.
It
currently
has
20
girls
and
20
boys,
and
it's
for
lower
risk,
males
and
females,
and
they
also
serve
youth
up
to
20
years
old
and
the
school.
The
education
is
provided
by
lincoln
county
and
they
also
have
vocational
training
programs
within
that
youth
facility.
J
J
I
like
to
look
at
our
successes
within
the
facilities
we're
seeing
a
number
of
youths
coming
out
with
their
high
school
equivalency
tests.
More
youth
are
graduating
with
moral
reasoning,
training
across
the
facilities
they're
a
hundred
percent
completed
in
their
mandatory
trainings
for
the
facilities
and
a
hiring
of
direct
line
staff.
J
That
is
a
challenge
that
we're
facing
and
then
there's
also
a
challenge
in
hiring
specialized
mental
health
staff.
So
there's
a
shortage
in
that
area
and
there
are
some
delays
with
the
prison,
rape,
elimination,
background
checks
and
there's
also
a
lack
of
trades
and
programs
such
as
welding
and
plumbing,
and
in
the
past,
we've
had
youth
that
have
gone
through
our
facilities
that
were
able
to
have
access
to
these
types
of
trainings
and
come
out
with
a
certificate
and
can
go
back
to
their
communities
and
be
of
service.
K
You
were
shown
a
slide
of
a
funnel
and
the
youth
parole
bureau
is
at
the
very
deep
end
or
the
bottom
part
of
that
funnel
when
youth
continue
to
move
through
the
system
and
ultimately
go
through
one
of
our
correctional
centers
and
they
come
out
on
parole
to
give
you
an
idea
of
what
that
means
of
all
the
youth
in
every
county.
That
touched
the
juvenile
justice
system
in
the
beginning,
somewhere
around
1.7
percent
of
those
youth
actually
make
it
all
the
way
down
to
the
youth
parole
bureau.
K
So
the
counties
again
are
doing
an
outstanding
job
with
front-end
services.
So
the
youth
parole
bureau
is
made
up
of
around
44
staff
and
the
map
that
you
see
is
our
locations.
We
have
clark
county,
las
vegas
is
our
biggest
location
about
60
to
70
percent
of
our
youth
get
committed
out
of
clark
county.
Our
second
largest
is
reno
or
washoe
county,
and
then
we
have
two
rural
offices,
one
in
elko
nevada
and
one
in
fallon
nevada.
K
K
We
also
are
in
charge
of
the
interstate
compact
on
juveniles,
and
we
have
one
specialist
that
works
in
that
area,
as
well
as
an
administrative
assistant
that
helps
that
program.
We
have
one
social
service,
specialist
and
one
chief
next
slide
is
the
youth
parole
snapshot.
That
was
there's
a
yearly
one
on
the
left,
and
that
is
to
give
you
guys
an
idea
of
how
many
youth
are
committed,
monthly,
and
that
is
across.
That
is
adding
up
all
counties
across
the
state.
You
can
see
it's
pretty
volatile.
K
K
K
That's
when
we're
fully
staffed,
we
usually
run
about
two
parole
counselors
down
and
so
that
that
raises
that
to
18
or
19.,
it's
been
my
experience
around
15
is
a
very
manageable
caseload.
Anything
above
that
it
gets
a
little
tricky
when
we
get
into
20
and
25.
It
gets
almost
undoable
with
the
amount
of
staff
that
we
have
next
slide.
K
I
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
commitment
of
a
child
and
placement
in
a
correctional
facility.
The
nrs
is
stated
there.
That's
how
judges
across
the
the
counties
can
commit
youth.
The
first
one
is
committed
for
correctional
care
and
the
second
part
is
when
they're
in
need
of
mental
or
residential
psychiatric
services
or
other
residential
services.
K
I
wanted
to
mention
our
facilities
are
not
residential
treatment
facilities.
They
are
not
mental
health
based,
they
are
correctional
based.
They
really
do
a
great
job
on
helping
with
criminogenic
factors
and
those
and
those
issues
they
do
have
mental
health
counselors
there
and
they
do
have
some
services
there,
but
they
are
not
for
the
acute
mental
health
youth.
K
We
all
know
that
criminogenic
factors
and
mental
health
are
always
intertwined.
There's
not
one
or
the
other
they're,
always
at
some
level
intertwined,
and
we
struggle
with.
Does
the
mental
health
drive
the
criminogenic
factors
or
do
the
criminogenic
factors
drive
their
mental
health?
That's
the
struggle
that
we
have
of
where
to
place
children
where
to
get
them
services
and
to
to
best,
have
better
outcomes
for
our
children.
K
Next
life,
our
youth,
parole,
successes
and
challenges.
We
implemented
the
youth
level
of
service
that
you
heard
dr
wade
talk
about,
there's
a
account
or
a
statewide
counties
and
state
use
that
level
of
service
to
determine
how
often
we
see
the
youth
if
they're
intensive,
if
they're,
moderate
or
they're
or
lower
we.
We
use
that
to
see
the
youth
in
the
in
the
communities
and
we
also
use
that
to
pick
services.
K
If
you
look
at
the
youth
level
of
service,
there's
criminogenic
factors
there,
we
take
the
top
three
and
we
really
hit
those
really
hard.
Whatever
those
are
so
the
case
plans
are
individualized
for
each
youth.
They
are
not
a
cookie
cutter
type
of
case
plan,
so
they're
very
individualized
for
the
youth's
behaviors.
K
We
also
implemented
the
youth
level
service
case
plan,
which
is
attached
to
the
yls
youth
level
of
service.
We
completed
all
the
police,
peace
officer
standards
and
trainings
mandated
trainings
as
well
as
dcfs
mandated
trainings.
I
bring
this
up
because,
as
youth
parole,
counselors
and
peace
officers
in
the
state,
we
have
a
huge
training
regime.
Every
year
I
counted
up
my
hours
to
keep
my
peace
officers,
standards
and
training,
as
well
as
our
dcfs
training.
It
was
well
over
80
hours
of
training,
so
we
we
have
very
competent,
counselors
and
officers
working
for
us.
K
We
completed
a
transition
to
our
new
case
management
system
called
tyler
supervision,
which
was
not
an
easy
task.
Now
we
it's
not
com,
100
complete,
but
now
we're
able
to
pull
data
and
look
at
data
that
we've
never
had
access
to
before.
So
that
was
pretty
exciting.
For
us,
our
challenges
in
is
the
lack
of
community
programs
in
for
services
in
mental
health.
K
So
we
may
have
a
youth
who
say,
for
instance,
had
a
burglary,
but
we
also
know
that
you
know
that
there's
some
mental
health
issues
there
we
can,
we
can
deal
with
the
burglary
by
you,
know,
home
visits
and
making
sure
that
there's
no
tools
and
and
and
we
and
and
we
can
deal
with
that.
What
we
struggle
with
are
the
challenges
of
where
to
get
mental
health
services
for
the
family
and
for
the
youth.
K
We
lack
juvenile
sex
offender
programs
and
services.
We
just
lost
one
of
our
biggest
programs
in
washoe
county.
It
was
called
hand
up
homes,
and
so,
even
though
that
may
be
a
smaller,
a
smaller
number
of
youth
they're
still,
those
are
the
important
youth
and
we,
we
lost
a
big
program
there.
So
we
struggle
with
what
to
do
with
juvenile
sex
offenders,
and
the
last
challenge
is
the
psychiatric
services
who
who
can
provide
assessments
and
who
can
do
medi
management
for
for
families
that
we
supervise.
K
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
our
administration
has
heard
heard
these
and
they
have
responded
and
they've
helped
us
out
and
they've
put
in.
As
I
understand
this
legislative
session
have
put
in
or
asking
for
lots
of
money
and
lots
of
you
know
we're
they're
they're
on
it.
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
this
committee
knew
that
at
this
point
this
concludes
my
presentation.
I
Good
morning,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
leslie
biddleston,
I'm
social
services
chief
over
the
juvenile
justice
programs
office
within
the
division
of
child
and
family
services.
The
juvenile
justice
programs
office
does
not
provide
direct
services.
They
are
an
administrative
unit
that
is
responsible
for
a
variety
of
federal
and
state
mandates.
I
We
also
conduct
quality
assurance
reviews
to
ensure
that
our
staff
and
facilities
are
adhering
to
policy.
I
I
I
Dcfs
does
not
have
authority
over
all
juvenile
justice
practitioners,
so
the
regulations
that
were
written
were
geared
towards
dcfs
staff
and
county
probation
and
detention
staff.
Those
regulations
have
been
drafted,
two
public
workshops
have
been
held
and
those
regulations
have
been
provided
to
lcb
for
drafting.
I
I
Moving
on
to
senate
bill
356
senate
bill,
356
is
a
joint
bill
between
the
division
of
child
family
services
and
the
department
of
corrections
to
conduct
a
study
on
the
housing
of
youthful
offenders
who
are
convicted
as
adults
and
also,
as
you
heard
mr
geinan
say
a
little
bit
ago,
regionalization
and
and
keeping
kids
where
they
where
they
live.
There
was
an
appropriation
tied
to
this
bill
of
fifty
thousand
dollars
to
hire
a
vendor,
to
gather
the
data
and
write
the
report
for
for
the
division.
I
A
request
for
proposal
is
currently
out
in
search
of
a
vendor.
That
request
is
up
on
dcfs
website
and
we
are
accepting
applications
until
the
10th
of
may.
So
we
are
hoping
to
get
a
good
qualified
vendor
to
assist
sp
356
study
components,
a
ratio
of
juveniles
versus
ratio,
ratio
of
staff
to
juveniles
versus
ratio
to
staff
of
adults
in
juvenile
facilities.
I
We
adhere
to
the
priya
ratios
of
a
one
to
eight
adult
facilities
may
be
much
higher
than
that,
one
to
21
to
50
or
maybe
possibly
even
higher
training
requirements.
There
is
quite
a
bit
of
training
requirements
for
staff
that
work
in
juvenile
facilities,
as
you
heard
chief
liady,
say
just
a
minute
ago.
There's
there's
quite
a
bit
of
training
requirements
for
staffing
for
in
juvenile
facilities.
I
Another
component
is
reviewing
the
age
of
majority.
The
age
of
majority
is
outlined
in
62a,
0
3.030
as
18
and
up
to
20.
In
certain
circumstances.
This
will.
This
study
will
also
include
looking
at
raising
that
age
of
majority
to
something
higher
than
that
additional
requirements
for
juveniles
in
facilities
is
education,
vocational
training
and
mental
health
services.
I
So
these
all
all
of
these
things
may
add
to
costs
of
housing,
juveniles
and
juvenile
facilities.
I
I
I
Study
components
of
sb
385
include
looking
at
the
percentage
of
diversions
compared
to
referrals
looking
at
the
types
of
programs
and
services
that
are
currently
provided
by
our
our
counties
as
compared
to
what
the
national
trend
is,
funding
mechanisms,
how
are
counties,
funding
those
front-end
services
and
the
average
cost
per
youth
for
diversion
moving
on
to
sb
398
sb
398
is
a
bill
that
requires
the
juvenile
justice
oversight
commission
to
update
their
progress
on
their
five-year
strategic
plan.
I
The
strategic
plan
was
a
component
of
assembly
bill
472,
which
passed
in
2017.,
so
strategic
plan
was
written
by
the
juvenile
justice
oversight
commission
in
2018,
so
this
bill
is
to
provide
an
update
on
what
the
commission
has
done.
I
Sp
398
successes
and
challenges.
The
first
success
is
the
selection
of
a
risk
and
needs
assessment.
You've
heard
both
dr
wade
and
doc
and
chief
liady
talk
about
the
yls.
The
yls
is
that
risk
and
needs
assessment
that
was
selected.
The
jjoc
looked
at
three
tools
and
selected.
I
The
yls
staff
were
trained
statewide
in
2018
and
began
using
that
tool
in
roughly
2018.
I
the
jjoc
also
selected
a
quality
assurance
tool.
The
tool
is
called
the
correctional
program
checklist.
This
tool
assesses
the
quality
of
evidence-based
programs
and
services
provided
within
the
state,
the
three
state
correctional
facilities
and
the
two
youth
camps.
There
are
currently
12
trained
assessors
on
this
tool.
I
Ab-472,
which
passed
in
2017,
also
required
the
creation
of
an
evidence-based
resource
center.
The
jjoc
selected,
a
vendor
and
resource
center,
was
created
in
roughly
2018..
I
The
last
success
was
the
establishment
of
an
array
of
performance
measures
which
looks
at
the
youth
from
referral
to
two
case
closure
and
and
what
is
happening
with
with
those
youth.
The
challenges
of
the
jjocn
of
dcfs
include
data
sharing
across
county
and
state
lines
and
across
systems.
I
As
you
know,
children
touch
many
systems,
the
education
system.
You
know
the
court
systems
and
possibly
even
the
child
welfare
system.
So
we
have
multiple
systems
that
youth
are
are
touching.
Measuring
recidivism
measuring
recidivism
can
become
difficult
and
is
difficult
as
youth
move
through
move
through
the
systems
from
county
to
state
and
and
possibly
even
moving
on
into
the
adult
criminal
justice
system
program.
Any
value
program,
evaluation
and
outcomes
is
much
like
recidivism
as
youth.
I
It
gets
difficult
to
track
youth
as
they
move
through
programs
and
services
and
and
across
county
and
state
lines,
and
then
the
last
thing
is
training.
Chief
laity
discussed
the
massive
amount
of
training,
so
it
basically
it's
just
making
sure
that
our
staff
are
keeping
up
and
are
current
with
training.
I
A
A
Not
seeing
any
and
how
about
from
our
committee
members
online
all
right
they're,
both
shaking
their
heads.
I
do
have
one
question
and
it
was
part
of
your
presentation.
A
I
was
I'm
particularly
interested
in
sb
108.
It's
a
bill
that
I
worked
on
closely
last
session
and
I'm
concerned
that
we're
having
trouble
finding
a
vendor
for
that
that
training
program
and
I'm
wondering
if
there
are
parameters
that
are
set
in
the
administrative
code
or
in
the
law
that
maybe
I'm
not
familiar
with
about
who
would
be
a
qualified
vendor
or
whether
it's
you're,
just
speaking
more
generally
we're
having
trouble
finding
somebody
who
does
this
kind
of
training.
I
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Leslie
biddleston
for
the
record
there
there
were
no
outlines
of
of
what
is
a
qualified
vendor
with
within
the
bill,
but
it's
it's
more
of
a
high
level
of
of
looking
to
find
somebody,
maybe
associated
with
a
university
or
or
an
advocacy
advocacy
group
who
is
familiar
with
with
that
topic
and
gear
it
more
towards
our
juvenile
justice
population.
I
A
Okay,
thank
you.
I
have
a
couple
vendors
in
mind,
so
maybe
we
can
chat
afterwards,
but
I
also
just
want
to
clarify
I'm
sure
that
the
that
the
department
has
particular
qualifications
that
every
vendor
has
to
meet.
I
mean:
do
you
only
contract
with
you
know,
firms
organizations.
Do
you
contract
with
individuals.
Do
you
contract
with
people
out
of
state
what
kinds
of
considerations
go
in
from
the
administrative
side.
I
A
E
Thank
you.
I
did
not
really
question
just
a
comment
having
been
in
in
connection
particularly
through
my
wife,
as
a
juvenile
hearing
master
for
quite
a
while.
I
just
wanted
to
compliment
you
guys
on
how
good
a
job
you
do.
Our
kids
need
the
kind
of
services
that
you
provide.
I
wish
we
could
send
more
money
your
way
to
expand
those
services,
but
you
guys
do
a
great
job.
A
Thank
you
for
that
and
assemblymember
marzola.
K
Dave
lighty
for
the
record.
The
program
in
arena
that
was
lost
was
called
hand
up
home.
It
was
a
sex,
juvenile
sex
offender,
specific
program.
Those
are
programs
that
are
difficult
to
keep
open
because
we
just
never
know
how
many
juvenile
sex
offenders
we
get.
K
Sex
offender
treatment
primarily
is
a
year
or
longer,
and
so,
if
I
believe
it
was
economics
that
had
that
program
not
be
able
to
keep
their
doors
open,
I
do
know
our
administration
when
we
found
out
that
they
were
closing
their
doors.
We
we
tried
other
avenues
of
trying
to
get
them
funding
and
it
just
wasn't
able
to
keep
that
open.
So
I
believe
it
was
a
funding
issue.
A
G
You
yeah:
can
we
just
follow
up
a
little
bit
further
on
that
inquiry
and
thank
you
as
some
of
the
women
marzola
for
asking,
because
I
also
had
that
written
down.
So
without
that
program,
what
is
the
stop
gap?
What
do
you
do
now
without
a
program
like
that
in
that
area
or
in
any
area,
if
there's
no
outside
program,
what
happens
to
the
young.
K
People
dave's
lighting
for
the
record.
We
we
have
one
other
program
in
los
arton
clark
county
and
then
we
look
for
out
of
state
which
nobody,
no,
we
don't
like
to
do
that.
We
don't
like
to
send
the
kids
out
of
state,
especially
in
this
demographic,
where
part
of
their
treatment
is
to
reconcile
with
with
their
family
or
their
victims,
and
we
can't
do
that
from
out
of
state
and
we
it's
very
difficult
to
do
from
different
cities.
K
G
Follow-Up
chair
yes,
go
ahead.
Thank
you.
Do
you
find,
though,
that
the
the
youth
respond
better
and
have
less
recidivism
with
an
in-house
treatment,
and
do
you
have
quantifiable
data
that
you
could
share
with
us
later
about
how
how
that
works?
Thank
you.
K
Dave
lighty
for
the
record.
I
also
want
to
point
out
that
again
with
this
demographic
and
with
that
sort
of
youth,
it
is
very
difficult
to
have
that
youth
in
their
home,
while
while
treatment
is
happening,
a
majority
of
the
time
the
victims
are
in
the
home
and
it's
not
appropriate
to
have
have
the
victim
and
the
perpetrator
in
the
home
at
the
same
time,
while
doing
that.
So,
unfortunately,
if
there's
not
a
program,
we
we
try
not
necessarily
residential.
We
try
like
foster
homes.
A
A
L
This
is
liz
from
washoe
county.
I'm
prepared,
I
think,
I'm
first
on
the
agenda,
so
I'm
prepared
if
clark
county
is
okay
with
that.
L
L
L
L
We
have
our
organizational
chart,
which
shows
our
administrative
areas
as
well
as
our
detention
center,
which
is
called
wittenberg
hall
named
after
helen
wittenberg,
who
was
an
advocate
in
the
1960s
in
our
community
probation
services,
community
services,
our
traffic
court
and
clinical
services.
Those
clinical
services
are
dedicated
primarily
to
the
youth
in
our
detention
center.
L
And
I
wanted
to
talk
about
our
philosophical
underpinning.
We
follow
an
approach
called
the
balanced
approach
and
we
have
I've
been
in
this
business
now
for
I've
entered
my
28th
year,
and
this
is
the
philosophy
that
I
was
trained
under,
and
it
is
very
similar
to
the
more
recently
known,
restorative
justice
model
that
I
know
was
a
was
a
major
theme
in
this
last
legislative
session,
and
a
lot
of
the
tenants
of
the
restorative
justice
model
have
been
incorporated
in
the
school
district
as
well.
L
L
L
L
We
have
39
state
commitments,
33
residential
treatment
center
placements
for
children
who
require
psychiatric
care
and
14
county
commitments
or
county
placements.
Our
county
camp
is
called
the
china
spring
youth
camp,
aurora,
pines
youth
camp.
That's
in
a
that's
a
lower
than
normal
number,
as
well
due
to
the
boys
program,
closure
that
occurred
due
to
budget
reductions.
I'll
speak
more
about
that
later.
L
So
here's
the
funnel
again,
the
famous
juvenile
justice
funnel
the
the
reason
we
continue
to
use
this
funnel
and
it
has
actually
been
presented,
probably
over
the
last
10
years
to
this
legislative
body,
because
it
is
an
excellent
illustration
of
how
youth
enter
our
system
and
the
various
point
of
exits
that
are
afforded
them.
I
won't
go
into
it
a
whole
lot
because
it's
really
been
explained
but-
and
I
appreciate
our
state
partners
indicating
that
they
recognize
that
there's
a
great
diversionary
effort
that
happens
at
the
county
level.
L
Our
probation
services,
you
can
see
how
they're
organized
here
we
have
an
informal
supervision
unit.
That's
the
unit
that
is
staffed
by
civilian
case
managers
who
provide
assessment
and
intervention
for
all
of
our
misdemeaning
offenders.
Then
we
have
our
probation
assessment
unit.
That
unit
provides
assessment
for
all
of
our
felony
gross
misdemeanor
offenders,
as
well
as
our
chronic
misdemeanors,
who
have
been
unable
to
benefit
from
the
interventions
that
we've
tried
at
the
lower
level,
the
top
tier
of
the
funnel.
We
have
our
compliance
units,
otherwise
known
as
general
supervision.
L
We
also
have
specialized
probation
units,
including
our
sexual
behavior
unit,
our
gang
unit.
Our
gang
unit
is
part
of
the
regional
gang
unit
in
our
region,
a
behavioral
health
unit.
We
have
officers
dedicated
to
the
youth
who
are
placed
at
our
local
camp
and
we
have
officers
dedicated
to
our
substance,
abuse
caseload.
L
We
have
a
community
services
unit,
our
staff
teach
many
youth
development
programs,
including
basic
skills.
We
have
evidence-based
programming,
aggression,
replacement,
training,
victim
awareness
program.
We
also
work
in
conjunction
with
the
nevada
state
police
who
provide
an
excellent
driver
safety
course.
We
have
an
evening
reporting
program
that
we're
going
on
our
15th
year
of
operation,
where
we
work
very
closely
with
the
boys
and
girls
club
of
the
truckee
meadows.
L
Our
staff
pick
up
youth
after
school,
take
them
to
the
boys
and
girls
club
where
they
were
afforded
opportunities
for
educational,
supports
and
pro-social
learning
pro-social
activities,
and
then
we
take
them
home
in
the
early
evenings.
We
know
that
that
period
of
time
is
the
day
is
the
time
of
day
where
youth
are
most
likely
to
engage
in
delinquent
behaviors.
L
We
find
tremendous
success
with
this
program
bless
you.
We
also
operate
a
work
program.
We
work
our
youth
on
our
work
program
are
assigned
to
local
county
parks
as
well
as
we
have
a
partnership
with
the
truckee
meadows
water
authority,
where
youth
also
work
in
those
sites.
We
have
a
youth
employment
program
where
youth
are
able
to
earn
income
after
they
learn
basic
skills
and
basic
employment
skills.
And
again
we
do
that
in
conjunction
with
the
washoe
county
parks
and
tumwa.
L
I
failed
to
mention
that
another
partnership
with
our
work
program
is
with
the
reno
sparks
convention
authority
or
the
livestock
events
center.
We
also
have
a
restitution
program.
We
have
a
victim
services
coordinator
who
collects
restitution
on
behalf
of
our
victims
in
our
community,
and
she
also
helps
our
victims
navigate
the
court
process
in
juvenile
justice.
We
have
a
couple
metrics
that
we
use
to
try
to
measure
how
it
is
we
are
doing.
What
are
our
outcomes,
and
one
of
those
is
our
diversion
rates
which
we've
talked
about
before.
L
L
Another
measurement
we
use
is
recidivism.
This
is
just
a
snapshot
of
one
of
the
things
that
we
track.
One
of
the
things
we
track
are
the
reoffense
rates
for
two
for
juveniles
over
a
two
year
period
of
time.
So
you
can
see
this
one,
for
example,
for
youth
that
were
placed
on
supervision
in
2019
when
we
tracked
them
for
24
months.
82
percent
had
zero
rearrest
14
had
one
three
percent
had
two
rearrests
and
then
one
percent
had
three
or
more,
and
this
was
for
felony
and
gross
misdemeanor
offenses
we're
proud
of
this
number.
L
One
thing
of
note
before
I
move
on
is
that
there,
while
we
look
at
diversion
rates-
and
we
look
at
recidivism
rates,
there's
another
metric
that
we're
exploring
a
concept
and
it's
called
desistance,
actually
there's
a
training
that
we
brought
in
it's
it
started
yesterday
and
is
ongoing.
Today,
called
growth
focused
case
management
and
part
of
the
concept
is
around
assistance,
which
is
an
attempt
to
measure
the
gradual
ceasing
of
problematic
behaviors
and
it's
difficult
to
do
that.
But
some
of
the
metrics
include
things
around
well-being,
stable
housing,
employment,
education,
healthy
relationships.
L
L
We
also
monitor
trends.
We
are
data
analysts
in
in
all
of
our
juvenile
justice
agencies,
and
this
was
always
an
interesting
one.
To
refer
to.
There
is
an
error:
it's
a
15-year
snapshot,
it's
not
from
2010
to
2021,
it's
actually
from
2007.,
but
nationally
as
well
as
locally
juvenile
crime
has
subsided.
L
L
L
We
track
regularly
our
average
daily
population
in
our
detention
center,
as
well
as
our
average
length
of
stay
and
another
measurement
is
the
average
length
of
stay
of
youth
who
stay
over
three
days.
That
three-day
mark
is
when
you
go
to
a
delinquency
hearing
by
statute
that
has
to
happen
within
72
hours,
so
you
can
see
the
length
of
stay
when
we
look
at
it
broadly
from
the
time
a
youth
enters
our
detention
center
to
the
time
they
leave.
L
L
This
is
a
look
at
our
placements.
This,
our
residential
placements
on
the
left,
show
residential
treatment,
centers,
so
youth
who
are
sent
to
treatment
centers,
who
are
requiring
psychiatric
care.
You
can
see
a
general
decline
in
these
numbers
in
2021
we
had
25
in-state
placements
and
eight
out-of-state
placements
for
our
state
and
county
commitments
again
generally
declining
in
2021.
L
We
had
39
state
commitments
and
14
county
placements
again
that
14
is
not
represented
of
a
normal
year.
The
the
camp
had
closed
their
boys
program
for
part
of
the
year.
It
has
now
since
reopened
other
trends
that
we
monitor
and,
and
hopefully
these
just
stay
a
trend
and
do
not
stabilize
but
we've
seen
an
increase
in
serious
crime,
gang
shooties,
violent
gang
activity,
significant
increase
in
firearm
offenses.
L
Unfortunately,
we've
seen
increased,
fentanyl
use,
which
has
resulted
in
drug
overdoses
and
death.
In
2021
we
had
eight
overdoses
and
three
of
those
youth
succumbed
to
those
to
that
overdose
and
died.
We've
had,
I
meant
the
mental
health
component
has
been
shared
at
length
by
our
dcfs
partners.
L
That
does
impact
us
in
in
our
local
facilities
as
well
in
our
local
commun
communities,
we've
seen
a
reduced
access
to
acute
psychiatric
care
and
residential
treatment
center
beds,
and
it
was
mentioned
that
the
local
sex
offender
program
closed,
and
I
support
chief
lydia's
assessment
of
how
that
occurred.
We
also
worked
very
closely
with
that
vendor
in
in
northern
nevada
to
assist
them
in
keeping
their
doors.
Open
economics
was
a
driving
force
of
that.
L
The
good
news
is
what
there
was
a
significant
reduction
in
the
number
of
youth
who
require
that
level
of
care
for
sex
offender
treatment.
The
bad
news,
though,
is
that
it
makes
it
difficult
to
sustain
funding
to
provide
that
intervention
that
vendor
hand
up
homes
was
a
fantastic
partner
and
their
rates
of
success
were
in
the
80th
and
90th
percentiles.
So
we
another
question
had
been
asked
previously
about
what
is
happening
with
these
youth
and
to
support
chief
leide's
assessment.
L
L
L
L
One
of
its
requirements
was
to
institute
a
mental
health
screening
tool
for
youth
who
are
not
in
custody,
and
so
you
can
see
in
our
juvenile
justice
funnel
that
at
the
very
top
assessment
is
a
piece
of
that.
So
we
are
identifying
in
juvenile
justice
a
lot
of
the
needs
that
our
youth
are
presenting,
not
the
least
of
which
is
the
mental
health
needs
which
are
increasing
at
an
alarming
rate.
So
we've
taken
many
efforts
at
the
juvenile
just
in
the
juvenile
justice
system
to
identify
the
youth.
L
Our
juvenile
services
act
as
a
mental
health
agency
by
brokering
assessments,
navigating
the
placement
process
case
management
managing
treatment,
and
we
are
housing,
youth
awaiting
treatment.
The
primary
barriers
include
lack
of
quality
residential
beds
for
both
acute
and
long-term
care
and
medicaid
reimbursement
rate
for
providers.
L
Unfortunately,
recent
events
have
demonstrated
that
our
out-of-state
placements
are
denying
nevada
youth
treatment
due
to
the
low
medication
or
medicaid
reimbursement
rate,
so
the
byproduct
of
that
is
that
we
have
youth
remaining
longer
in
our
short-term
facilities
in
our
detention.
Centers
waiting
for
mental
health
treatment.
L
L
L
I'll
end
on
the
note
that
we
talked
about
the
juvenile
justice
funnel
and
how
it
is
that
we
want
to
provide
interventions
at
the
earliest
point
possible
to
minimize
the
number
of
youth
who
fall
deeper
into
the
system.
The
neva
nevada
has
a
system
of
care
on
the
mental
health
side
that
has
similar
concept.
Whether
we
try
to
do
the
attempt
to
do
assessments
at
the
earliest
point
possible
determine
what
level
of
intervention
is
required
and
start
treating
youth
earlier
on
in
in
their
during
their
mental
health
needs.
L
L
A
M
M
During
the
2021
legislative
session,
I
sponsored
the
bill
with
many
co-sponsors
of
both
parties
assembly,
bill
251
and
that
regards
juvenile
sealing
of
records
at
age
18..
The
prior
law
was
automatic,
stealing
of
juvenile
records
at
age
21,
and
this
bill
assembly
bill
251
changed
it
to
automatic
sealing
of
records
at
age
18
in
order
to
give
our
kids
a
second
chance,
because
studies
overwhelmingly
show
that
if
we
are
going
to
reform
and
and
help
people
to
become
productive
members
of
society,
our
best
chance
of
doing
that
is
when
they're
juveniles.
M
So
this
bill
gives
kids
a
second
chance
by
automatic
sealing
of
records
at
age
18,
and
I'm
wondering
if
you
can
tell
me
if
that
has
been
implemented
in
washoe
county
and
if
that
has
been
implemented
across
the
state
of
nevada
and
and
if
you
can't
tell
me,
I'm
hoping
you
can
direct
me
to
somebody
that
can
give
this
committee
that
information,
because
I
know
it's
important
to
every
member
of
this
committee,
because
that
bill
passed
unanimously
in
both
the
senate
and
assembly.
Thank
you.
L
Liz
flores
for
the
record.
Thank
you
for
the
question
assembly,
member
krasner.
I
am
not
the
best
suited
to
to
answer
this
question.
I
know
in
washoe
county
our
courts
and
and
our
agency,
the
district
attorney's
office
and
the
public
defender's
office
have
been
working
on
this
and
I
believe
it
is
part
of
the
presentation
of
coming
up
soon
by
the
da's
office.
N
When
krasner,
I
can
answer
that
question
a
little
bit
more
robustly.
So
in
clark,
county
we've
been
working
with
the
tyler
technology
to
have
an
automated
feature
in
the
system,
especially
since
our
account
is
so
big.
So
the
problem
with
the
system
right
now
is
when
you
press
the
button,
it
doesn't
delete
certain
misdemeanors.
N
So
if,
if
a
charge
is
reduced
from
a
felony
to
misdemeanor,
it's
not
reducing
that
charge,
but
all
the
other
ones
are
being
automatically
sealed.
So
we
can't
use
that
feature
yet
so
I'm
being
told
in
the
next
week
or
two
that
the
system
should
be
fixed
for
the
first
time,
we've
never
had
that
that
option
before,
but
in
clark
county
we're
doing
it
manually.
We
started
at
age
21
and
worked
our
way
backwards,
so
we're
we're
going.
N
We
did
all
the
21
year
olds,
all
the
20
year
olds
and
now
we're
working
on
the
19
year
olds,
but
once
that
is
in
place
in
the
system,
the
other
counties
in
the
state
should
be
able,
because
we
all
the
majority
of
us
not
all
of
us,
but
the
majority
of
us
have
that
in
tyler
tech.
So
it'll
be
an
automatic
ceiling
for
the
system.
M
Chair,
if
I
can
follow
up,
thank
you,
mr
willihan
tyler
technology.
M
M
The
whole
reason
for
this
bill
was
because
kids
were
not
being
able
to
get
jobs
because
of
a
misdemeanor,
maybe
drinking
a
beer
when
they
were
17
being
arrested,
cited
for
a
misdemeanor
and
then
having
that
on
their
record
for
the
rest
of
their
life,
they
weren't
being
able
to
get
jobs,
because
this
was
coming
up,
they
weren't
being
able
to
get
into
college.
They
were
not
being
able
to
get
scholarship
money,
so
I
think
the
entire.
I
don't
think
I
know
the
entire
legislator.
M
Both
parties
unanimously
passed
this
bill
because
we
all
believe
that
kids
should
have
a
second
chance,
and
so
it
seems
like
there's
a
little
roblox,
and
I
know
it's
not
your
fault,
but
it
seems
like
there's
a
roadblock
here
of
getting
this
technology
implemented
across
the
entire
state
of
nevada,
and
I
appreciate
that
clark.
County
is
doing
it
and
I
think
it's
just
so
important
that
we
as
a
society
invest
in
our
youth
and
try
to
do
everything
we
can
to
rehabilitate
our
youth
so
that
they
can
be
productive
members
of
society.
N
Michael
hand
for
the
record,
so
leslie
mentioned-
let's
see
but
also
mentioned
earlier,
there's
a
statewide
system
that
was
required
by
ab472.
It's
called
caseload
pro
and
tyler
technologies
actually
bought
them
out.
So
it's
a
tyler
technology
system,
so
not
every
county
is
up
and
running
yet,
but
the
majority
of
the
counties
are
and
once
that
feature
is
finalized.
All
those
counties
should
be
able
to
ask
access
request
that
from
tyler
technologies
and
put
it
in
their
systems
and
washoe
county
will
be
doing
a
presentation
on
their
end
from
their
dea
and
during
their
presentation.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Are
there
other
questions
from
our
members
in
carson
city.
A
It
doesn't
look
like
anybody
is
moving
to
ask
a
question
so
I'll
just
open
up
one
more
time
to
our
whole
committee,
and
I
don't
see
anybody
so
thank
you
so
much
ms
flores
for
your
presentation
and
we
will
move
on
to
our
next
presenter.
N
Michael
wheeler
hand
for
the
record,
I'm
assistant
director
of
juvenile
justice.
I've
worked
for
the
department
for
over
27
years,
but
one
of
the
things
I'd
like
to
bring
up
now
that
we're
having
these
conversations
with
data
is
the
one
of
the
priorities
in
the
state
and
that's
one
of
the
laws
that
have
passed
recently
and
that's
why
we
have
the
tyler
technology
we're
trying
to
get
it
up
and
running,
like
ms
middleton
said
earlier,
but
for
clark
county.
N
If
you
go
on
the
county
website,
clark
county
website
and
you
go
down
to
the
juvenile
justice
department,
we
actually
have
a
data
book
that
goes
back
several
years.
It's
a
very
robust
data
analyzed
with
crimes
and
race,
gender
age,
zip
codes.
It
has
a
lot
of
stuff
in
there.
So
if
you
get
an
opportunity,
I
would
suggest
getting
on
there
it's
and
we're
going
to
make
it
better.
So
everything
can
be
improved
and
then
there's
a
a
group.
It's
called
nadja,
so
the
nevada
administrators
of
juvenile
justice
administrators.
N
So
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we
talk
about
between
the
state,
washoe
county
clark.
You
know
all
the
other
counties.
We
meet
monthly
and
discuss
a
lot
of
these
issues.
So
a
lot
of
the
things
that
watch
our
own
clark
county
is
presenting
today
will
be
the
same
for
the
other
counties,
because
we
we
share
a
common
goal
and
that's
to
rehabilitate
children
and
meet
meet
the
state
law
requirements
so
getting
to
the
the
last
year's
legislative
session.
N
So
I
just
want
to
give
you
guys
a
brief
update,
because
it
was
very
important.
A
lot
of
people
had
bills
that
were
passed
and
you
guys
want
to
make
sure
that
they
were
they
were
completed.
The
department
of
juvenile
justice
tracked
40
bills
attract
more
than
40
bills,
but
in
the
end,
40
bills
directly
impacted
the
department
of
juvenile
justice,
so
so
ab-132,
which
is
the
miranda
warning,
was
implemented
within
a
week
of
it
becoming
state
law.
N
Ab-158,
the
d.a,
the
harbor
and
myself
and
bridge
is
going
to
do
testify
more
to
that
a
little
bit
in
her
presentation,
so
that's
already
been
enacted.
Ab230
bridge
actually
has
some
data
and
that's
been
enacted
with
the
d.a
and
juvenile
justice.
So
we've
already
got
that
in
place
and
she's
got
some
data
and
her
slide
on
that
and
then,
as
far
as
sb07
that's
more
of
a
court
function,
but
in
our
tyler
technologies.
We're
we're
waiting
on
a
feature,
so
we
can
track
it
and
give
some
data
on
it.
N
So,
even
though
we
don't
we're
not
the
warehouser
or
an
issuer
of
the
protective
order,
but
we
can
be
a
data
function
for
it.
So
we're
working
on
that
and
then
sb
108,
some
of
the
trainings
that
were
part
of
the
sb
only
108
juvenile
justice
has
been
doing
for
a
few
years.
We
have
a
training
that
we've
done
called
24
7
as
a
three-day
training
that
does
a
lot
of
the
implicit
bias
where
you
do.
N
Cultural
awareness
and
they've
both
been
approved
by
the
the
post,
as
mr
lighty
said
earlier,
we're
peace
officers
and
so
what
we're
going
to
do?
What
we
did
do
was
we
contracted
a
vendor
from
denver,
because
there
were
some
elements
added
to
the
cultural
wellness
that
we
didn't
have.
It
talked
about
socioeconomic
impact,
the
history
and
some
of
those
things
of
that
nature.
That
weren't
in
our
so
we
contracted
with
a
gentleman
from
denver
that
got
the
denver
pd
out
of
a
doj
investigation.
So
he
actually
is
a
police
officer
there.
N
He
owns
his
own
company,
so
it
was
recognized
by
the
doj
by
the
state
of
colorado
and
nevada.
Post
has
recognized
our
trainings
too.
So
we
are
currently
just
waiting
on
the
lesson
plan
for
the
trainings
that
were
in
sb108
and
those
will
be
implemented
before
the
year
is
out
so
in
the
next
I
I'm
guessing
in
the
next
month
or
two.
N
We
should
be
able
to
roll
those
trainings
out
to
department
of
juvenile
justice,
so
I
can
work
with
the
state
and
provide
some
of
this
information
and
then
because
some
of
it
is
more
based
on
your
geographic
location
and
your
clients
and
some
of
those
things
that
you
gotta,
you
gotta
recognize
the
differences
of
the
people
that
you
you
work
with
right,
so
so
we'll
provide
some
of
that
to
the
state.
Now
getting
to
the
the
powerpoint
point.
N
N
Our
goal
is
to
help
young
people
avoid
future
delinquency
and
mature
into
law
abiding
adults.
So
that's
one
of
the
differences
is
we're
trying
to
prevent
them
from
going
to
the
prison
system,
obviously
with
the
prison
system,
it's
too
late,
so
not
that
they
can't
be
rehabilitated,
but
we're
trying
to
get
to
the
point
where
they
don't
even
get
to
there.
N
So
one
of
the
biggest
interventions
to
reduce
criminal
activity
is
a
pro-social
adult
relationship.
So
that's
one
of
the
things
we're
focused
on
and
one
of
our
goals
in
the
department
of
juvenile
justice
over
the
last
two
years
is
family
engagement.
We
focus
so
much
on.
Just
focusing
on
what
the
kids
need
are
you
got
to
realize
that
the
whole
family
unit,
if
you
send
the
child
back
and
there's
no
services
for
the
siblings
or
their
parents,
they're
going
to
fail,
and
that's
why
the
data
hasn't
been
as
successful.
N
So
the
way
that
they
enter
the
system
is
through
the
referral
process.
So
it's
either
an
arrest
or
a
citation
that
comes
into
the
juvenile
justice
system.
It
can
be
through
the
school
district,
the
police
or
juvenile
justice
itself
or
other
law
enforcement
agencies,
so
the
intake
or
diversion
process.
So
they
come
into
our
intake
unit,
as
would
be
our
probation
intake
and
they
would.
N
The
dea
would
work
with
our
probation
officers
to
determine
whether
this
can
be
formally
processed
to
juvenile
court
or
can
be
diverted
informally
or
dismissed,
so
the
dea
and
the
harbor.
We
divert
a
lot
of
those
cases
through,
so
they
don't
get
the
misdemeanors
and
some
of
the
things
like
assembly.
Women
krasner
was
saying
earlier
because
we
agree
that
some
of
these
lower
level
charges
that
aren't
historically
violent
or
the
self-harming
behaviors
those
could
be
dealt
with
informally
by
getting
the
services
and
counseling
the
mental
health
treatment
that
they
need.
N
So
we
also
have
trial
by
peers
community
service.
We
hold
open
cases
so
on
a
hold
open.
You
would
give
some
certain
guidelines
for
the
kid
and
if
he
meets
the
the
conditions,
then
the
charge
is
gone,
so
it
won't
be
on
the
record
and
then
we
also
do
restitution.
Only
cases
come.
Sometimes
it
could
be
something
small
like
breaking
window
or
something
like
that,
which
would
be
a
misdemeanor.
So
we
don't
want
to
give
them
a
formal
misdemeanor
charge.
N
So
if
they
can
work
off
that
restitution
make
the
victim
whole,
then
it
won't
be
on
their
record
as
well,
and
we
also
do
informal
probation
in
diversion
court.
So
how
does
the
kid
get
to
the
juvenile
chess
just
from
the
juvenile
justice
system
to
the
adult
system
is
two
different
ways,
so
it's
either
a
direct
certification,
meaning
based
on
the
current
laws,
with
some
laws
changed
this
last
session.
N
So
there's
a
lot
less
charges
that
kids
are
direct
filed
on
now
and
bridget
is
going
to
have
some
stuff
on
her
slide
to
to
go
over
the
some
of
the
changes
with
the
numbers
and
then
there's
the
in
the
indirect
were
based
on
the
the
da's
recommendations
and
the
judge
making
decision
based
on
the
totality
of
the
circumstances
and
the
charges
and
the
victim.
Then
they
would
go
through
that
process.
N
If
not
that's
where
that
informal
process
could
be,
they
could
be
diverted
or
they
could
be
released
home
on
a
gps
if
they're
not
a
threat
or
severe
threat
to
the
community,
or
they
could
be
just
released
home
to
their
parents
with
some
gifts
conditions
where
they
return
to
court.
So
we
have
home
management
and
we
also
have
kids
that
come
into
juvenile
attention
from
a
failed
placement.
Sometimes
the
placement
we
willing
to
take
them
back.
Sometimes
it's
just.
N
They
need
to
get
in
front
of
the
judge
and
get
some
counseling
set
up
and
then
they
they
can
go
back.
So
there's
a
there's,
there's
an
array
of
services
that
happen
when
the
kid
comes
in
detention,
but
if
the
kids
detained
so
what
they
would
do
was
they
have
a
court
case.
The
court
scheduled
within
the
next
24
to
48
hours
so,
except
for
weekends
and
holidays.
It
could
be
two
to
three
days,
especially
on
that
thanksgiving
holiday,
where
it's
a
little
bit
longer,
but
so
they
get
to
go
to
court
immediately.
N
So
then
they
would
go
to
a
plea
hearing
where
they
would
plea
if
they
were
innocent
or
guilty,
and
then
it
at
that
point
if
they
play
it
guilty
that
oftentimes
there's
plea
deals
made
so
between
the
d.a,
the
pde
and
the
youth
in
their
family
on
one
conditions
would
be
met
on
probation,
maybe
not
even
probation,
and
then
at
that
point,
if
they're
found
they
would,
if
they
plead
not
guilty,
they
would
go
to
a
contested
hearing
which
is
like
a
trial
for
an
adult.
So
it'd
be
the
same
thing.
N
So
they'd
go
through
a
trial.
They'd
present
the
evidence
and
go
through
the
court
process,
and
then
the
judge
would
make
a
decision
and
then
later
they
would
go
to.
They
could
get
a
consent,
decree,
lesser
charge
or
they
might
be
placed
at
another
institution
and
then,
if
they
were
found
guilty,
they
would
go
to
disposition
hearing.
So
as
an
adult
it'd
be
called
a
sensing
hearing.
So
at
that
point
they
would
go
to
the
sensing
hearing
and
then
they
could
be
sent
to
one
of
our
regional
facilities.
N
They
could
be
sent
to
spring
mountain
youth,
camp
mental
health
placement.
They
could
be
released
home,
they
could
be
put
on
the
gps
there's
like
any
other
places.
If
even
if
they're
found
guilty
doesn't
mean
they're
going
to
be
locked
up
and
then
they
would
also
go,
they
could
be
certified
as
an
adult,
so
90
of
youth
adjudicated
delinquents
are
sent
either
to
community
supervision,
better
known
as
probation.
N
So
the
majority
of
the
kids,
even
when
they're
found
guilty
90
of
them,
are
on
on
probation
and
that
would
they
would
have
court
orders
that
would
get
the
mental
health
placement.
It
could
be
put
them
on
medicaid
there's
many
things
that
could
take
place,
because
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
restore
the
family
and
make
them
whole
and
that's
been
the
goal
of
probation,
like
I
said
earlier,
to
keep
them
out
of
the
the
prison
system
so
and
they
would
get
mandatory
treatment
and
other
court
orders.
N
The
yls
mr
lydia
mentioned
that
earlier
is
that
one
that
was
ordered
by
this.
This
legislation
in,
I
think
believe,
2017.
It
was
ab472,
so
the
yls
is
in
place.
It's
called
the
youth
level
service,
it's
a
comprehensive
risk.
It
needs
assessment,
so
the
judge
doesn't
have
to
take
that.
But
the
judge
normally
takes
that
in
into
consideration,
because
it's
a
very
robust
it
takes
about
a
week
to
two
weeks
to
complete
the
report.
N
So
it's
very
robust
and
it
takes
some
of
the
bias
out
of
the
decision
making
because
it
actually
has
a
calculated
formula.
You
submit
it
into
the
system
and
it
gives
you
the
the
very
high
high
medium
or
low
risk
and
based
on
that,
there's
a
matrix
on
the
potential.
What
you
you
can
recommend
for
a
kid.
As
far
as
for
our
probation
officers,
obviously
the
judge
can
do
can
make
a
decision
based
on
their
facts
in
front
of
them.
N
So
diversions
have
better
outcomes
and
I'll
go
with
over
some
of
the
the
data
a
little
bit
more.
When
we
get
into
the
harbor
slide
for
non-violent
minor
cases,
we
try
to
divert
as
many
cases
as
possible
and
that's
been
with
working
with
the
district
attorney
and
the
judge.
So
it's
been
a
collaboration
of
numerous
agencies
to
work
on
this.
So
the
history
of
juvenile
justice
has
been
the
over
reliance
on
confinement
of
young,
kids
and
oftentimes.
N
Those
kids
don't
look
like
me
right
so
and
I'll
go
over
a
little
bit
more
of
the
data
on
that
on
a
future
slide,
so
we're
trying
to
be
more
and
that
this
is
the
whole
state
so
trying
to
use
more
risk
in
these
assessments.
We
use
amazing
for
mental
health
screening.
We
use
the
unlv
pre-screen
in
our
intake.
So,
like
I
said
it's
not
hey.
I've
been
a
po
for
27
years,
so
I
think
this
kid
should
be
locked
up,
so
we've
gotten
away
from
that.
N
So
we're
trying
to
use
more
data
driven
best
practice
approaches
to
making
decisions
at
those
points
right
so
and
that's
been
a
lot
of
the
legislative
things.
N
One
of
the
goals
is
to
to
you
know,
have
better
outcomes
for
these
children
so,
and
juvenile
justice
agrees
with
that.
So,
when
we're
talking
nationally
throughout
the
united
states,
15
of
the
the
youth
are
black.
35
percent
of
the
youth
refer
to
juvenile
courts.
35
percent
are
black,
but
the
actual
community
is
15,
so
that's
twice
as
likely
as
a
as
a
black
child
to
be
referred
to
the
juvenile
justice
system.
N
So
when
I'm
talking,
there's
been
an
over
reliance
of
commitments
to
facilities,
that's
why
we
do
the
harbor
and
some
of
these
other
small
other
things
to
divert
kids
out
of
the
system
to
try
to
get
them
to
the
point
where
we
don't
get
to
that
decision
process
where
they're
having
to
be
placed
in
a
facility
and
as
we
know,
youth
brains,
don't
fully
develop
between
the
ages
of
21
to
24.
So
and
then,
when
you
compound
it
by
the
influence
of
alcohol
trauma,
physical
abuse
and
poverty.
N
And
most
youth
will
just
grow
out
of
it.
Naturally,
on
their
own
minor
delinquency
is
considered
normal
behavior
for
children.
I'm
talking
minor
dealings,
I'm
not
talking,
you
know
felonies,
and
things
like
that.
I'm
talking
small,
you
know
as
a
child
you're
getting
a
fist
fight
with
your
friend
now
would
be
considered
an
afraid
right
when
we
were
young,
it
was
not
right.
We
didn't
get
arrested
for
an
afraid.
So
now
we
arrest
people.
So
we've
recognized
a
lot
of
that.
N
N
N
So
in
incentivizing,
positive
behavior
we're
pretty
good
as
a
system
is
creating
punishments,
but
we
don't
reward
positive
behavior
and
any
teacher
psychologist
any
program.
That's
very
productive
is
going
to
have
some
positive
rewards
for
kids
after
there's
going
to
be
consequences
for
negative
behaviors.
But
what
do
you
do
afterwards?
You
try
to
get
some
positive
rewards
recognitions.
It's
not
always
money
right.
It
can
be
a
certificate.
N
You'd,
be
surprised
with
some
of
these
kids.
You
know
when
you
put
a
certificate
in
their
hand,
how
excited
they
are
because
it's
about
completing
something
they're
not
not
used
to
completing
so
the
harbor.
The
mission
of
the
harbor
is
to
be
responsive
to
the
well-being
of
youth
families
and
victims
by
providing
meaningful
services
to
improve
connectedness
to
the
community
through
academic
achievement,
reduce
insurance
and
providing
a
safe
place
for
guidance.
N
So
the
services
provided
are
there's
many,
but
the
the
main
ones
are
tutoring
truancy,
prevention,
mentoring,
counseling,
food
clothing,
assistance
and
distance
learning.
So
if
you're
talking
about
a
child,
bless
you
if
you're
talking
about
a
child
that
can't
see
the
chalkboard,
he
sits
in
the
back
of
the
classroom
or
not
chalkboard
anymore,
I'm
old.
So
when
I
was
in
school,
was
a
chalkboard.
So
now
you
know
kid
sits
in
the
back,
because
you
can't
see
the
board.
But
as
a
teacher
you
don't
know
that
and
you're
you.
N
You
know,
you'll
start
labeling,
the
kid
level
the
kid
sitting
in
the
back,
because
he
doesn't
want
to
learn,
but
really
the
kid
can't
afford
glasses,
often
times
or
he's,
got
abscessed
tooth
because
they
don't
have
access
to
medical
care.
So
those
are
the
some
of
the
things
that
the
harvard
works
on
is
getting
the
family.
The
resources
to
deal
with
some
of
these
generational
issues
when
you're
talking
poverty
with
our
youth
right
and
it's
it's
for
the
whole
family.
N
It's
just
not
for
the
kid
so
70
of
the
total
cases
for
dgs,
not
the
ones
at
the
harbor,
but
70
were
non-violent
okay.
So
the
majority
of
our
cases
that
probation
deals
with
are
non-violent,
okay
and
bridget's,
going
to
have
some
really
good
data
on
the
top
10
offenses
that
she
refers
or
files
on
so
and
that's
because
of
the
harbor
has
taken
those
smaller
level
cases.
N
So
we
can
focus
more
on
the
high-end
community
risk
or
the
kid
has
self-harming
or
you
know,
self-harming
behavior
can
just
be
the
fact
that
you're
committing
crimes
right.
So
we
can
focus
on
that
more
than
dealing
with
the
kid
that
stole
some
shoes
from
walmart
because
he
doesn't
have
shoes
for
school.
So
we
can
work
at
some
of
those.
N
So
there's
it's
a
collaboration
of
many
partners,
I'm
not
going
to
list
them
all,
because
it's
on
your
slide,
but
it's
juvenile
justice
department,
family
services,
the
d.a,
eagle
quest
and
a
litany
of
others
and
other
law
enforcement
agencies
that
will
take
the
kids
and
drop
them
off
at
the
harbor
instead
of
bringing
them
to
our
intake,
whether
it
be
formally
processed
and
charged.
So
if
they
don't
complete,
I
know
that's
a
big
thing:
people
like
oh,
they
just
don't
disappear
and
we're
not
like.
N
Oh
you
know,
they're
done
so
if
they
don't
complete
they're
given
60
days,
if
they
don't
complete,
it
they're
either
actually
working
on
a
new
process.
So
they're
referred
back
to
intake,
so
we
just
met
yesterday
and
what
we're
going
to
do
is
we're
going
to
divert
those
kids
to
diversion
court,
so
we're
working
on
a
process.
So
instead
so
a
lot
of
times.
It's
family
means
you,
you
don't
have
transportation.
N
N
I
guess
the
one
thing
you
can
say
about
covert
has
been
a
blessing
to
to
us
in
the
jewel,
and
justice
system
is
actually
being
able
to
hold
meetings
live,
so
some
of
the
families
can
actually
attend
counseling
and
things
of
that
nature,
instead
of
having
to
get
on
the
bus,
take
their
four
or
five
kids
with
them
miss
work.
So
now
we
can
do
it
more
on.
You
know
conveniently
for
for
families,
so
they
don't
have
to
lose
it
so
out.
N
Since
it
the
harbor
opened
in
october
of
2016.,
so
we've
had
20
050
referrals,
90
percent
of
them
have
not
been
sent
back
to
probation
intake.
That
means
2198
were
sent
to
intake,
but
out
of
those
2198
don't
be
like.
Oh
they
all
you
know
got
incarcerated
or
they
got.
You
know
something
like
that.
No,
a
lot
of
them
will
actually
go
through
an
informal
process
through
our
intake
to
get
them
the
counseling,
the
services
and
stuff.
Like
I
said,
sometimes
the
parents
just
need.
N
Sometimes
it's
just
a
formality,
like
one
of
the
reasons
we're
doing
diversion
court
is
to
sit
in
front
of
a
judge.
Oftentimes
just
sitting
in
front
of
a
judge
makes
it
seem
a
little
bit
more
serious.
I
need
to
do
it
right.
So
that's
what
we're
that's
part
of
the
things
with
this
too
so,
and
the
the
90
success
rate,
meaning
they're
not
going
to
probation.
N
It's
another
diversion
program
to
help
the
school
district,
with
chronic
truancy,
obviously
for
historical
purposes,
trinity
actually
used
to
be
they
could
be
charged
with
kids
were
held
in
detention.
Laws
have
been
passed
since
then
to
keep
them
out
so,
but
we
all
know
that
truancy
leads
to
being
expelled,
being
expelled,
means
to
making
less
money
and
that's
the
school-to-prison
pipeline
right.
So
what
we've
done
is
we've
created
this
new
program
to
try
to
get
these
kids
reengaged
in
school,
so
they
don't
drop
out,
so
they
can
graduate.
N
N
Schools
are
now
participating,
6968
referrals,
it's
similar
services
offered
by
the
the
harper
as
well,
except
you
adds
harvard-
is
ieps
too,
which
is
an
individualized
education
program
which
the
school
district
does
for.
Kids,
that
you
know
struggle
with.
Some
have
some
learning,
disa
disabilities
or
some
mental
health
issues
right
so
they'll
get
some
specialized
education,
so
oftentimes
kids,
don't
know
they
need
that
or
parents
don't
know
that
that
resources
even
exist.
N
So
you
once
you
get
that
kid
in
there
they
can
get
the
the
help
they
need
to
get
back
on
track
in
school.
So
the
the
major
collaboration
is
between
boys,
town
department,
family
service,
social
service
and
the
school
district.
So
we
actually
started
seeing
kids
in
20
january
of
2021
has
obviously
been
an
issue
for
us.
I'm
sure
these
numbers
would
be
higher,
but
the
school
was
not
in
session
for
quite
some
time,
as
we
all
know.
N
So,
when
you're
looking
at
the
success
so
far-
and
this
has
only
been
a
little
over
a
year,
so
I
mean
this
isn't
like.
Oh,
this
is
the
we're
looking
at
the
data,
but
when
you're
looking
at
after
sixty
percent
of
the
interventions,
kids
attended
school,
six
and
a
half
more
days
for
each
quarter.
That
means
they're
not
getting
kicked
out
right
and
that's
the
whole
point
of
it
out
of
the
the
77,
the
top
10
of
those
attended
school
27
more
days.
N
So
when
you're
talking
education,
when
you,
when
you
miss
you
get
behind
right
so
and
if
you
don't
go
eventually
you're
going
to
get
kicked
out,
so
it's
been
very
successful
so
far.
If
any
of
you
would
like
to
take
a
tour
of
the
harbor,
I
have
my
email
and
my
office
number
on
the
on
the
slide.
So
you
feel
free
and
call
me
and
I'll
rage
a
tour
of
either
one
of
those
programs.
N
N
In
the
next
few
months,
we're
going
to
be
opening
up
a
girls
program,
because
that
was
mentioned
earlier
by
this
state
as
we're
looking
for
girls
programs,
so
that
the
department
of
juvenile
justice
is
open
in
a
halfway
house
to
try
to
divert
some
of
these
girls
from
the
calling
to
you
center,
which
is
the
only
facility
that
houses
girls.
So
if
there's
any
other
questions,
thank
you
for
your.
A
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
for
being
here.
As
you
know,
I've
been
a
proponent
of
the
harbor,
brought
a
bill
last
session
to
try
to
expand
it
into
the
schools,
didn't
get
a
hearing,
but
it's
it's
an
important
effort.
E
Can
you
tell
me
how
the
harbor
is
doing
under
the
the
current?
You
know
in
terms
of
a
number
of
people
that
are
they're
able
to
help
and
and
those
that
are
turned
away,
because
there
aren't
resources
available.
N
Michael
wilhelm,
for
the
record,
thank
you
for
the
question
senator
pickard,
so
we
don't
turn
anyone
away,
so
we've
expanded
the
harbor.
Originally
it
was
at
our
juvenile
detention
center
and
now
we
have
five
and
we're
getting
ready
to
expand
it
to
a
mobile
harbor.
N
So
it'll
be
like
a
rv
bust,
we're
working
on
that
right
now
and
then
we'll
be
able
to
take
it
to
the
rural
sections
of
clark
county,
because
that's
where
we're
kind
of
failing
in
our
services
is
reaching
out
to
moapa
laflin,
some
of
those
other
places.
N
And
then,
when
we're
we're
having
issues
in
the
school,
we
can
take
that
harbor
when
they're
having
severe
issues-
and
maybe
we
can
go
there
and
try
to
get
some
of
these
kids
services
a
lot
of
times
the
behaviors
because
of
things
that
are
going
on
in
the
home.
So
for
us
that
mobile
harbor
is
going
to
be
a
huge
step
for
us.
E
N
The
city
of
henderson
and
north
las
vegas
have
allowed
us
to
use
buildings
like
in-kind
donations,
so
to
speak,
so
we've
we've
had
those
and
then
the
the
county
is
pretty
much
funded.
The
majority
of
it
since
the
legislation
didn't
pass.
But
funding
is
a
is
a
big
issue
for
us
right
now
for
the
harbors.
A
Other
questions
from
members
here,
questions
from
members
in
carson
city,
I'm
not
seeing
any
or
any
questions
from
our
members
online.
All
right.
I
think
that
concludes
our
questions
for
you.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
presentation.
That
concludes
agenda.
Item
number.
A
Six,
yes,
and
so
we
will
move
on
to
agenda
item
number
seven
presentations
from
the
district,
attorney's
offices,
and
I
will
let
you
guys
actually
it
looks
like
we
have
washo
and
clark
with
us.
I
see
ms
duffy
here
from
clark
in
clark
county
and
is
somebody
from
washoe
county
up
in
carson's,
yes
and
somebody
from
carson
city
somebody
from
washoe
counties
in
carson
city.
I
will
let
you
guys
tell
us
how
you're
going
to
present.
C
See
how
confusing
it
is.
This
is
bridget
duffy
for
the
record.
We
we
did
a
co
slide
and
so
it'll
flow
with
clark
county
going
first
and
then
washoe
county
picking
up
at
in
the
middle
of
the
presentation
good
morning,
shelley.
C
Chair
scheible,
thank
you
and
members
of
the
committee.
I'm
just
going
to
go
ahead
and
start.
I
have
already
introduced
myself.
Our
first
slide
is
a
really
an
overview
of
the
juvenile
delinquency
court
process
and
chief
scott
made
this
slide,
and
I
realized
I
need
to
put
it
at
the
front,
because
I
think
it's
important
for
the
community
to
understand
how
cases
even
get
to
the
district
attorney's
office.
C
I've
learned
a
lot
through
20
some
years,
and
one
thing
I
learned
this
year
is
that
the
community
doesn't
really
understand
that
the
da's
office
doesn't
just
take
cases
and
file
cases.
They
come
to
us
through
a
process
and
in
juvenile
justice.
It's
even
different
than
criminal
justice,
in
that,
in
both
washoe
and
in
clark,
the
cases
start
with
the
juvenile
probation
department
and
I'll
make
sure
chief
scott
is
able
to
talk
about
her
county,
but
in
clark
county
the.
C
If,
if
a
law
enforcement
officer
cites
or
arrests
the
child
that
all
of
those
cases
are
funneled
through
to
the
probation
department
by
statute,
the
probation
department
has
the
right
to
divert
misdemeanors
completely
and
totally
away
from
the
district
attorney's
eye.
Her
view
or
determination
at
all
and
that
we
use
in
clark
we
use
diversionary
services,
we
use
probation
intake
or
which
you've
heard
that
phrase
a
few
times
now
this
morning
or
probation
officers
for
an
informal
process
on
gross
misdemeanors
or
felonies.
C
C
So
I
got
a
lot
of
calls
as
school
violence
was
increasing
about
you
know
what
is
the
da's
office
doing
with
these
fight
charges
and
batteries
are
misdemeanors,
so
I
had
to
explain
to
a
lot
of
the
public
that
I
am.
I
don't
even
have
a
case
because
those
in
those
misdemeanor
battery
cases
go
through
a
probation
office
referral
and
are
diverted
from
my
view
at
all.
C
O
C
Bridget
duffy
again
for
the
record,
so
an
overview
of
the
clark
county
district
attorney's
office.
So,
as
most
of
you
know,
I
run
the
juvenile
division
and
it
is
made
up
of
two
divisions.
Inside
of
it,
delinquency
and
child
dependency.
I
have
a
total
of
58
employees.
29
are
deputy
district
attorneys.
I
have
nine
dedicated
to
the
delinquency,
team
and
20
dedicated
to
the
child
dependency
team.
I
am
supported
by
one
law
clerk.
One
investigator
two
process
servers,
one
victim
advocate
for
nine
court
rooms,
13
secretaries,
four,
part-time
hourlies
and
five
various
office
assistants.
C
Next,
so
I
I
put
some
stats
because
I
know
everybody
is
always
interested
to
see
our
trends
in
filing
cases,
and
I
always
preface
this
for
the
last.
I
don't
know:
seven,
seven
years
I've
been
doing
legislation.
My
office
still
does
not
have
a
case
management
system
for
the
juvenile
division.
So
while
these
stats
are
gathered
with
our
partnership
through
juvenile
probation,
so
I
I
always
want
to
make
sure
these
are
kind
of
rough
stats.
C
I
will
say
they're
they're
fairly
point
on,
but
it's
confusing,
and
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
top
part
of
my
slide
talks
about
how
this
is
not
unique:
children,
so
one
child.
So
when
I
talk
about,
I
filed
3
128
petitions,
my
office
in
2021.
That's
not
30
128
children.
That
could
be
one
child
with
five
times
through
the
system.
So
it's
not
so
just
how
we
pull
statistics,
it's
difficult
to
pull
down
to
each
child
having
a
petition,
so
you
can
see
from
2017
to
2021.
C
There's
been
we've
been
kind
of
we've
been
decreasing
in
the
amount
of
petitions
filed
2020
you
all
can
start.
You
know
that
was
a
unique
year,
but
2021
we
had
it.
We
had
an
increase
of
referrals.
However,
we
had
a
decrease
of
filings
in
my
office.
Only
filed
46
46
of
the
referrals
that
we
obtained,
and
that
is,
I
believe,
an
exact
shout
out
to
our
diversionary
programs.
C
So
the
harbor
came
into
into
place
in
2016
october
and
as
we
that
was
one
harbor
and
then
we
expanded
to
two
and
now
we
are
at
five
by
2020,
and
so
you
can
see
that
using
that
to
divert
these
petitions
that
are
coming
to
us
has
been
a
success.
C
C
C
These
are
our
top
10
offenses
that
we
file
petitions
on
so
in
2021
only
there
could
be
more
than
one
charge
per
petition
and
I,
I
think
that's
an
important
point,
because
it
is,
it
is
very
rare
that
the
only
charge
on
a
petition
would
be
violation
of
probation
or
parole
most
of
the
time,
a
majority
of
the
time
that
would
come
with
a
substantive
offense.
C
It
often
then
comes
back
to
my
office
and
since
I
have
a
person
victim
on
a
charge,
then
that
that
kind
of
weighs
the
the
decision
to
end
up
ultimately
firing
up
filing
a
petition
that
gives
the
subject
minor
who's,
denying
that
they
committed
the
battery.
C
That
gives
them
the
opportunity
to
go
before
a
judge
and
and
and
deny
it
and
have
their
trial
in
court,
and
then
it
allows
the
victim
to
know
what
occurred.
In
the
case,
battery
domestic
violences
have
been
on
the
rise
since
kovid.
C
I
know
that
the
harbor
is
one
of
their
top
offenses
that
they
are
dealing
with,
that
that
stress
intention
in
the
homes
is
increasing
and
a
lot
of
times
these.
These
cases
we're
we're
looking
at
one
child
with
four
five
six
times
that
they've
been
through
an
offered
diversionary
programs
and
have
not
been
successful
to
the
point
where
the
families
asking
for
judicial
intervention.
C
C
C
It
was
our
attempt
to
stop
the
school-to-prison
pipeline.
As
you
heard,
a.d
willihan
talk
about
kids
that
are
excluded
from
school
are
fast
tracking,
their
way
to
prison.
So
this
school
justice
partnership
we
work
to
determine
what
school-based
acts
that
were
committed
should
be
held
dealt
with.
As
a
diversionary
or
school
based
discipline
and
not
sent
to
the
juvenile
justice
system,
so
possession
of
marijuana
on
school
property,
if
it's
not
for
sale,
just
normal
possession
of
by
you
know
a
child,
maybe
with
a
wax
pen.
C
First,
first-time
batteries,
a
phrase
obstructing
a
police
officer,
those
types
of
offenses.
We
have
asked
that
the
school
districts
use
our
diversionary
services
and
use
their
pbis,
which
is
performance-based
something
it's
their
school-based
level
of
interventions
before
sending
them
to
the
juvenile
justice
system.
Again,
I
think,
that's
that's
a
large
part
of
why
we
are
seeing
a
decrease
in
filings
and
in
2021
general
ford.
C
He
put
forth
a
call
to
start
restorative
justice
in
our
juvenile
system
and
in
our
criminal
system,
but
I'm
only
going
to
talk
about
juvenile
right
now,
because
I'm
actively
a
part
of
it
and
we're
using
the
harbor
program
to
start
these
restorative
circles,
where
we're
bringing
the
harmed
individuals
or
what
we
would
call
victims,
but
the
harmed
individuals
and
the
harming
individuals
or
the
subject.
Minors
who
perpetrated
the
offense
together
with
trained
mediators,
to
talk
about
what
happened,
how
it
impacted
them
and
come
to
a
joint
resolution
of
to
how
that
should
be
handled.
C
We
are
dealing
mostly
with
misdemeanors.
In
those
cases,
although
my
office
has
referred,
some
felonies,
some
like
larceny
from
a
person
where
the
where
the
harmed
individual
is
getting
their
property
back.
So
maybe
a
child
stole
a
cell
phone
at
the
park,
but
they
received
the
property
back.
So
there's
no
restitution,
that
is
a
felony,
but
we're
able
to
bring
those
two
individuals
together,
the
harmed
and
the
harmer
to
talk
about.
C
C
So
since
implementation
on
in
on
october,
1st
of
2021,
so
now
we're
into
seven
months,
we
have
had
26
children
that
are
16
or
17
who
were
would
have
been
sent
directly
to
the
adult
system,
remained
in
the
juvenile
system,
so
26
children
in
seven
months
remained
in
juvenile.
All
of
them
were
firearms
cases,
robbery
with
use
discharging
a
firearm
or
assaults
with
deadly
weapons
of
those
26.
C
To
date,
three
have
actually
been
certified
to
the
adult
system
because,
although
they
don't
directly
go
to
the
adult
system,
the
district
attorney's
office
still
has
the
ability
to
file
a
petition
and
a
motion
to
certify
them.
So
the
court
then
makes
that
determination
and
three
of
26
have
11
have
remained
in
the
juvenile
justice
system
in
juvenile
placements.
So
children,
who
who
are
now
given
another
opportunity
because
most
of
them
have
well
all
of
them,
have
prior
offenses,
but
most
of
them
had
other
opportunities
on
probation,
but
we've
kept
11
of
them.
C
That
would
not
have
had
that
opportunity
before
this
legislative
body
passed.
Ab230
are
still
given
the
opportunity
to
be
in
the
juvenile
justice
system
and
we
still
have
12
pending
at
this
time
in
2020.
Just
so.
You
know,
because
I
want
to
talk
about
the
impact
of
of
this
on
our
juvenile
probation
department
in
2019
and
2020
prior
to
ab230.
C
Only
21
children
in
the
entire
year
would
have
been
directly
certified
to
the
adult
system,
so
this
is
creating
a
26
extra
children
in
the
juvenile
justice
system
that
are
remaining
in
detention
a
lot
longer.
So
it
is,
has
that
fiscal
impact
that
was
discussed
at
the
in
the
2021
session
actually
came
to
fruition
on
the
clark
county
juvenile
detention
center
because
they
are
remaining
there
for
on
average
60
days.
C
C
So
far
in
2022
we
have
had
two
in
2021
we
had
18
20,
20
10
and
20
19
16..
So
we
are
fortunate
that
so
far
almost
halfway
through
the
year,
we
have
only
had
two
children
certified
directly
to
the
adult
system
or
direct
file
to
this
adult
system
for
murder
or
attempt
murder
and
before
I
pass
it
off
to
chief
scott
up
north.
I
do
want
to
say
to
date:
we
have
120
certifications
that
have
been
filed
by
the
da's
office
in
clark.
C
O
I
oversee
only
juvenile
delinquency.
Our
juvenile
dependency
falls
under
our
civil
division
and
is
overseen
by
a
separate
chief
in
a
separate
ada
to
handle
the
child
dependency
cases.
In
the
first
slide,
I've
shown
you
a
breakdown
of
what
our
two
juvenile
divisions
look
like.
Our
juvenile
dependency
is
a
fairly
large
unit
for
the
size
of
washoe
county.
We
have
nine
attorneys,
one
of
which
is
a
grant
funded
position.
O
They
have
four
legal
secretaries
and
one
and
a
half
office
assistants
to
process
all
their
paperwork.
In
addition
to
the
juvenile
dependency
hearings,
they
handle
temp
parental
termination
of
rights
cases
they
handle
and
will
especially
appear
in
some
guardianship
cases,
so
they
have
a
very
heavy
caseload
that
those
nine
attorneys
handle
on
the
criminal
division
side.
Our
juvenile
team
has
four
attorneys.
One
is
myself.
O
As
the
chief,
we
have
two
legal
secretaries,
a
half-time
office
assistant
and,
unlike
what
is
available
in
clark
county,
we
do
not
have
any
dedicated
support
staff
in
investigations
or
process
serving
so
they
we
will
pull
out
of
the
general
pool
for
access
to
those
services
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
When
the
need
arises.
O
As
you've
seen
with
both
director
flores
and
has
been
discussed
by
chief
duffy,
we
have
seen
a
decline
overall
in
referrals,
especially
during
the
pandemic,
and
excuse
me
in
20
and
21.
Our
caseloads
and
referrals
dropped
dramatically.
We
lost,
or
the
cases
were,
decreased,
probably
a
third
of
referrals,
and
I
attribute
much
of
that
to
the
children
not
being
in
school.
O
So
we
did
see
a
dramatic
decrease
in
the
referrals
that
came
to
our
department.
As
chief
our
director
flores
also
noted
a
decrease
in
referrals
to
juvenile
services.
Overall,
our
caseloads
have
been
fairly
steady
for
the
last
five
years.
Aside
from
the
pandemic,
we've
gone
between
1500
to
1700
referrals,
as
chief
duppy
duffy
indicates.
We
don't
have
or
we're
in
the
process
of
actually
getting
this
week,
a
case
management
system
that
will
be
able
to
allow
us
to
pull
much
better
numbers
in
a
much
wider
variety
of
cases.
O
So
these
are
generalities
over
the
last
five
years
that
we've
been
able
to
pull
by
hand
on
a
rather
quick
basis.
For
this
committee's
use.
Certifications
in
washoe
county
are
very
few.
We
have
a
vetting
process
before
we
even
file
a
petition.
It
necessitates
the
youth
usually
remaining
custody
a
little
bit
longer,
but
I
think
the
vetting
process
results
in
fewer
youth
being
certified
fewer
hearings
actually
going
forward
for
certification
and
a
much
greater
stipulation
by
the
youth
to
be
transferred
to
the
adult
system
after
the
vetting
process
has
occurred.
O
We
staff
internally
with
the
juvenile
team,
if
there's
a
recommendation
from
the
juvenile
team
for
likely
certification,
it
is
staffed
with
our
ada
and
the
criminal
division
chief
to
make
sure
that
they
both
are
approving
the
transfer
and
in
this
process
we
also
consider
mitigating
information.
We
seek
information
from
the
child's
defense
attorney
for
any
medication,
any
evidence
they
want
us
to
be
able
to
present
internally
and
to
our
chief
or
our
assistant
ada,
as
the
vetting
process
goes
forward,
and
I
think
the
certification
numbers
that
you
see
bear
out
the
fruit
of
that
process.
O
In
2017,
we've
only
filed
four
motions
for
certification,
four
of
those
the
youth
stipulated
to
transfer,
and
there
was
one
that
we
did
withdraw
in
2018.
There
was
only
one
motion
filed
that
was
for
an
attempted
murder
case
where
a
youth
was
under
16..
That
motion
went
forward
to
hearing
and
was
granted.
O
O
The
offender.
In
that
case
could
not
be
held
accountable,
and
I
think
that's
where
some
of
the
housing
issues
with
incompetent,
long-term
and
competent
youth
may
be
important
for
this
committee
to
consider
on
an
upcoming
basis
right
now.
We
only
we
only
have
one
motion
pending
from
2021
and
we
have
not
filed
any
yet
in
2022..
O
O
We
currently
have
two
that
are
pending
and
the
effects
of
ab230
in
washoe
county
were
not
nearly
as
dramatic
as
they
were
in
clark
county
based
on
the
prior
felonies
between
2018
and
2021.
O
We
only
had
five
cases
that
went
up
on
a
direct
file,
and
that
was
before
20
the
ab230
came
into
effect,
since
the
application
of
ab20
excuse
me,
ab230
only
one
case
has
remained
in
the
juvenile
justice
system.
The
state
decided
not
to
move
forward
with
adult
certification
and
the
youth
remained
in.
The
system
was
sent
to
correctional
care.
O
We've
touched
briefly-
or
I
believe,
dcfs
touched
briefly
on
sb
7,
which
was
the
protection
order
hearings.
The
district
attorney's
office
is
not
a
party
to
the
protection
order
hearings.
I
sought
information
from
our
court
master,
who
oversees
the
protection
order
hearings
for
juvenile
justice
to
get
some
numbers
from
her
on
what
she's
seen
since
sb7
was
enacted,
she
indicates
that
they
have
set
36
hearings
where
the
minor
is
the
adverse
party
is
the
minor.
O
Not
all
of
those
are
36
different
youth.
Some
of
those
indicate
she
indicated
work
hearings
that
had
to
be
continued,
so
the
youth
could
con
verse
with
counsel,
so
the
proper
service
could
be
had.
However,
in
all
cases
that
came
before
her
appointed
counsel
was
given
for
the
adverse
party
that
is
typically
by
the
washoe
county
public
defender's
office.
I
know
my
partner,
miss
burshy
has
prepared
some
slides
with
respect
to
their
participation
in
these
protection
order
hearings.
O
C
C
I
failed
to
put
this
the
sb
number.
I
believe
it
was
366..
It
was
senator
orrin
shaw's
bill
became
where
we,
the
da's
office,
were
trying
to
push
to
mandate
that
beds
be
available
within
our
state
mental
health
facilities
for
juveniles
that
are
deemed
to
be
incompetent.
So
we
were
trying
to
move
forward
with.
C
Can
you
put
my
site
up,
so
I
could
so
I
don't
know
if
it's
up
there
for
them,
so
that
it's
thank
you
mike,
so
so
that
we
have
a
place
for
juveniles
that
are
deemed
to
be
incompetent
to
either
be
restored
or
to
get
other
types
of
treatment
that
bill
turned
into
a
study
bill
side,
commission,
so
we're
working
forward
with
that.
C
C
Our
we
see
a
lot
of
the
children
that
we
are
taking
on
petition
to
court
have
deep
trauma
and
mental
health
issues.
It
doesn't
make
me
feel
good
about
it,
but
this
is
how
we
have
to
get
their
help,
because
families
themselves
are
unable
to
access
services
in
the
community
and
their
escalation
of
their
violent
behavior
is
is
getting
to
a
point
where
the
family
needs
the
assistance
of
of
somebody
other
than
themselves.
C
So
our
juvenile
detention
facilities
are
much
like
our
adult
detention
facilities
and
they
are
becoming
mental
health
hospitals.
So
we
clearly
need
better,
more
robust
mental
health
services.
The
medicaid
funding
is
a
huge
issue.
I
know
you're
not.
This
is
not
this
committee,
but
it
is
a
big
issue
and
for
getting
providers
we
joined
the
charge
for
needing
a
blended
sentencing
model
that
includes
developmentally
appropriate
programming
for
our
violent
youthful
offenders.
C
And-
and
so
we
we
support
that
blended
sentencing
model
and,
as
chief
scott
said,
we
have
a
desire
to
address
the
juvenile
victims
of
domestic
violence,
not
having
counsel
at
those
protection
order
hearings
in
most
of
those
cases,
because
they're
date
dating
relationships.
C
C
So
in
clark,
the
implementation,
it's
a
little
odd,
because
the
statute
requires
on
the
first
or
second
referral
on
the
third
referral
that
comes
to
the
da's
office.
Well,
in
clark,
we
first
time
and
second
time,
misdemeanor
marijuana
offenses
are
not
referrals
to
the
juvenile
justice
system
anymore.
They
are
diverted
to
the
harbor,
so
they
don't.
C
So
we're
we're
really
doing.
We
didn't
want
to
have
to
start
giving
children
juvenile
records
when
we
don't
do
it
now,
because
we
divert
them
out
of
the
system
altogether.
So
we
had
to
find
a
fancy
way
to
do
it,
but
it
is
in
the
best
interest
of
the
children
at
this
time.
So
it's
not
we're
it's
not
a
way
to
it's.
Diverting
and
not
circumventing
the
law,
there's
just
no
way
to
capture
that
in
our
in
our
system.
O
C
A
All
right,
thank
you.
I
think
we
will
have
a
couple
of
questions.
I
also
wanted
to
note
for
the
committee
and
for
others.
I
think
that
we
touched
briefly
on
ab158,
which
was
assemblywoman
monroe
moreno's
bill
from
last
session.
It
was
a
fantastic
bill
and
she's
also
submitted
a
public
comment
which
is
available
online
to
review
about
a
kind
of
gap
in
the
measure
that
we
intend
to
fix
next
session.
So
I
know
that
she
couldn't
join
us
today,
but
it's
all
in
writing
on
our
on
our
committee
website.
A
So
we
appreciate
her
for
that
and
I
encourage
all
of
you
guys
to
read
that
and
just
get
up
to
speed
on
what's
happening
with
our
treatment
of
juvenile
marijuana
offenses,
and
with
that
I
will
go
ahead.
I'm
going
to
go
to
questions
I'm
also
going
to
let
you
guys
know
that
my
plan
is
to
break
for
lunch
after
this
presentation.
So
if
that
affects
your
planning
now
now
you
know
so
I
will
go
first
to
I
think
some
remember
when
you
had
a
question:
go
ahead.
F
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
your
presentation
up,
north
and
also
down
here
down
south.
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
and
one
did
you
have
a
chance
to
read.
Assemblywoman
monroe
moreno's
comment
regarding
like
the
disportionate
treatment
of
like
vape
pens
like
marijuana,
vape
pens
and
with
children,
no
bridget.
F
Well,
I
I
guess
under
any
circumstances,
I
would
encourage
you
to
do
that
and
reach
out
to
assemblywoman
monroe
moreno,
because
it
sounds
like
she
is.
You
know
looking
at
some
legislative
fix
going
into
2023,
but
as
far
as
like
the
you
had
mentioned,
you
know
you
don't
always
charge
everything
and
things
come
to
you
differently.
F
One
of
the
things
that
she
brought
up
in
her
concerns
is
the
ability
and
the
discretion
that
you
have
in
your
offices
on
whether
or
not
to
charge
certain
things
surrounding
like
marijuana,
and
I
know
that
there
is
a
lot
of
things
regarding
that.
Can
you
kind
of
discuss
like
how
you
take
into
consideration
like
moving
trends
away
towards
criminalizing
that
type
of
behavior.
C
C
One
we're
talking
about
brain
development
right
how?
How
often
am
I
told
that
I
need
to
treat
children
differently
because
their
brains
aren't
fully
developed,
and
I
have
to
recognize
that
they
make
bone-headed
decisions
because
their
brains
aren't
fully
developed
and
there
is
a
difference
between
bone-headed
decisions
and
true,
you
know
armed
robbery,
type
behaviors.
C
I
also
have
concerns
when
I
see
the
children
that
we
do
get
for
the
fourth
and
fifth
petitions
and
six
petitions
that
they
are
then
escalating
right.
You
know
the
gateway
drug,
so
there
is
in
in
my
mind
we
we
divert
most
of
those
kids
and
I
haven't
seen
whatever
it
is.
That
may
be
the
issue
and
I
I
definitely
am
going
to
look
for
it
and
and
and
see
how
we
can
address
it
in
a
satisfactory
way.
C
But
there
are
the
kids
that
are
kicking
back
at
a
house
party,
and
then
there
we
have
children
that
are
using
it
every
day
and
showing
up
high
to
school.
Every
day
we
have
children
that
are
using
it
and
driving
running
red
lights
at
a
high
rate
of
speed
and
and
taking
the
lives
of
individual
citizens
in
our
community.
C
F
I
guess
I
guess
that's
the
concern
in
assemblywoman
monroe
moreno's,
like
comments
is
that
it
is
being
treated
differently
than
alcohol.
So
I
know
it's
not
your
office's
policy
per
se,
but
obviously
there
are
concerns.
I
think
we
all
have
the
same
concerns
about
children
and
any
kind
of
substance
abuse
you
know
and
that
how
it
implies.
But
I
think
that
some
concern
is
that
the
marijuana
possession
is
treated
as
a
felony,
and
now
the
alcohol,
like
violation,
is
not.
Is
that
correct.
C
Richard
duffy
for
the
record,
possession
of
marijuana
with
intent
to
sell,
is
treated
as
a
felony,
but
not
just
personal
possession.
In
fact,
that's
the
number
one
or
two
charge
that's
diverted
to
the
harbor
is
possession
of
marijuana
possession
of
drug
paraphernalia.
Those
are
the
and
you
can
see
it's
not
even
one
of
my
top.
I
don't
believe
it's
one
of
my
top
10
offenses
for
2021
of
being
filed.
F
O
O
O
F
C
Bridget
duffley
for
the
record.
The
issue
is
the
medicaid
rate.
We
are
having
an
issue
finding
providers,
because
nevada's
medicaid
rate
is
so
low
compared
to
other
states.
That
providers
aren't
willing
to
come
to
our
state
to
provide
services
for
us
and
and
also
it's.
We
find
it
difficult
to
send
children
out
of
state
who
need
treatment
because
providers
will
not
accept
our
children
because
we
pay
at
such
a
low
rate.
I
know-
and
I
will
say-
because
I
never
want
to
talk
about
my
my
state
partners,
but
it
is
a
conversation.
F
C
Yeah
bridget
duffy
for
the
record.
We
we
definitely
have
a
struggle.
I've
had
a
struggle
here
in
clark
with
kids,
dual
custody,
kids,
so
foster
kids
and
that
are
also
juvenile
on
the
juvenile
delinquency
side,
with
in-state
drug
treatment
programs
or
I'm
sorry,
inpatient
drug
treatment
programs
to
the
point
where
clark
county
was
making
a
contract
to
pay
just
straight
county
funds
to
get
a
child
assistance,
because
the
only
in-state
provider
that
would
take
a
child
inpatient
for
drug
treatment
did
not
take
medicaid.
A
All
right,
I
think,
senator
harris
was
next
go
ahead.
B
Thank
you
cheers
scheible.
This
question
will
be
for
both
here,
ms
duffy
and
as
well
up
north,
miss
scott.
If
you
could
address
it
as
well,
we
heard
a
little
bit
about
national
disparities
in
sentencing
and
in
certifying
are
either
offices
tracking,
whether
they
there's
currently
a
disparity
here
in
nevada
in
in
in
our
own
practices,
and
if
so,
are
there
well,
even
if
not
so,
are
there
any
efforts
to
be
kind
of
proactive
in
in
doing
our
best
to
ensure
that
those
disparities
are
not
creeping
in.
O
Information
that
would
be
utilized
to
establish
any
kind
of
a
racial
bias
or
disparate
treatment
among
our
youth.
The
new
system
that
has
gone
online
this
week
does
have
the
ability
to
do
just
that
so
washoe
county
is,
is
moving
forward
with
an
ability
to
identify
our
youth,
not
only
by
gender
but
by
other
ethnical
ethnic
categories
and
be
able
to
pull
the
data
to
see
if
we
have
any
disparate
treatment.
O
I
know
when
I'm
charging
a
case
as
well
as
my
deputies,
that
we
don't
look
at
the
ratio
of
an
individual.
That
information
is
buried
in
the
police
report
on
biographical
information.
What
I'm
looking
at
is
the
nature
of
the
offense.
I
think
where
we
may
see.
Some
disparate
treatment,
however,
is
in
the
ability
for
our
families
to
access
resources
outside
of
the
criminal
or
judicial.
O
Excuse
me:
juvenile
delinquency
systems,
if
the
syst,
if
the
families
have
access
to
therapeutic
services
and
or
private
placements,
that
will
mitigate
the
ability
or
the
need
to
use
correctional
placements
or
detention
facilities
or
the
judicial
and
juvenile
delinquency
system
to
access
those
services
is
definitely
something
to
look
at
moving
forward.
I
am
not
aware
of
any
current
information
that
I
can
pull
from
our
system
to
answer
that
question.
C
C
Having
said
that,
my
office
actively
participates
in
the
diversionary
programs
which
are
assisting
in
cutting
down
the
numbers.
We,
the
school
justice
partnership
that
I
talked
about.
You
know
school
districts.
Well,
maybe
you
don't,
but
school
districts,
expel
and
suspend
children
at
a
very
disproportionate
rate.
C
That
partnership
is
addressing
things
such
as
the
code
of
conduct
addressing
restorative
practices
and
addressing
not
sending
low-level
offenders
to
the
juvenile
justice
system,
because
we
know
that
there's
an
issue
there
as
well,
so
we're
really
working
there
at
those
grass
roots
misdemeanor
some
felony
gross
misdemeanors
that
are
non-violent
offenses
to
try
to
get
those
out
of
the
system
and
allow
those
families
to
access
services
without
coming
in.
C
B
Just
a
quick
follow-up
chair,
if
that's
okay,
I
I
appreciate
your
frankness
and
honesty,
and
I
probably
just
assure
that
there's
disparities
in
the
north
as
well.
I
think
that's
just
a
feature
of
our
system
and
not
on
any
individual
specifically,
and
I
would
really
just
encourage
you
both
to
try
and
be
as
proactive
as
possible,
because
complacency
is
what
leads
to
these
disparities,
not
necessarily
intentional
acts
on
the
on
the
behalf
of
one
individual
d.a
on
one
individual
case
and
absent
a
intent
to
chase
down
these
these
gaps.
A
All
right,
senator
pickard-
oh
I'm
sorry,
it
looks
like
one
of
our
presenters
wanted
to
also
weigh
in
on
senator
harris's.
Most
recent
comments
go
ahead,
but
remember
to
state
your
name.
N
Michael
willahan
for
the
record.
Thank
you
for
that
question
by
the
way.
So
we
are
aware-
and
we
are
recognizing
the
issues-
the
the
racial
disparities.
So
we've
actually
created
a
diversity
committee
where
we
use
data
and
we're
creating
processes
within
our
own
systems,
because
we
know
they
exist
and
we
actually
have
started
a
cqi
division
to
look
at
the
the
impacts
of
decision
making
based
on
a
racial
lens.
So
we
are
very
being
very
proactive
and
we're
going
to
do
our
best.
E
Thank
you
church.
I
will
first
I
will
say,
having
been
a
member
of
the
school
district
juvenile
justice
partnership
program
from
its
inception,
I
want
to
applaud
chief
duffy
and
aidy
wheelahan
for
your
participation
and
the
great
progress
you've
made.
That
would
not
have
happened.
Had
it
not
been
for
your
participation
and
I'll
make
a
shout
out
to
jack
as
well,
because
that
has
made
great
strides
in
addressing
the
issue,
obviously
hasn't
fixed
it.
I
don't
know
that
we'll
fix
that
in
our
lifetime,
but
we're
we'll
certainly
try.
E
My
question,
though,
goes
to
the
back
to
the
cannabis
issue.
The
concentrated
cannabis-
and
this
is
something
I'd
personally
been
connected
to
through
my
work
with
youth
recovery
programs.
My
wife
and
I
participated.
We
facilitated
a
12-step
group
for
youth
for
many
years
and
in
the
process,
did
a
fair
amount
of
research
into
things
like
marijuana
as
a
gateway
drug
and
just
from
an
anecdotal
standpoint.
E
In
any
event,
my
understanding
is
there's
a
pharmacological
difference
between
the
as
chief
scott
said,
the
green
leafy
substance
and
the
concentrated
thc
that
we
see
in
these
wax
pens
and
there's
an
associated
difference
in
how
it
affects
brains.
E
C
Bridget
duffy
for
the
record
chief
scott,
I'm
going
to
pass
that
question
to
you,
because
we,
while
we
believe
we
could
file,
we
are
diverting
those
cases
at
this
point
for
for
sort
of
what
washoe's
doing.
C
So,
I'm
not
sure
if
there
is,
is
an
answer
to
your
question,
at
least
not
from
my
perspective
I'll
see
if
chief
scott
has
one,
but
we
are
diverting
them
so
that
they
can
get
the
full
assessments
and
determine
what
is
what
is
needed
to
treat
that
child
and
then,
if
they
continue
to
come
back
to
the
system.
That
is
when
we
would
ultimately
file
chief.
O
O
They
have
articulated
to
my
department
that
they
have
seen
differences
in
the
way
the
youth
respond
to
concentrated
cannabis.
The
way
the
brain
responds
to
the
concentrated
cannabis,
as
opposed
to
the
green
leafy
substance,
the
percentage
of
thc
in
most
of
the
vape
pens
that
I've
seen
coming
out
of
the
high
schools,
middle
schools
and
even
some
elementary
schools
is
85
percent
thc
65
to
85
percent
thc,
which
is
about
five
times
four
to
five
times
the
concentration
of
thc
that
you
find
in
a
very
well
grown
green,
leafy
substance.
O
O
These
children.
We
are
seeing
vape
pens
being
sold
on
school
grounds,
they're
being
used
on
school
grounds.
The
gummies
are
being
brought
in
and
kids
are
oding
because
friends
or
family
members
have
given
or
bought
the
cookies,
the
gummies
the
depends
and
we,
our
youth,
are
suffering
the
consequences.
So
those
are
the
reasons
why
we
differentiate.
E
All
right,
thank
you
for
that,
and
you
just
addressed
one
of
my
follow-ups,
so
I
won't
ask
that
one
but
miss
duffy.
I
am
interested
because
I'm
aware
that
we
try
to
divert
100
percent
if
we
can,
and
but
what
I
wasn't
aware
of
was
that
ccsd
is
not
referring.
Those
to
the
juvenile
program
is
that
by
design
is
that
by
policy,
or
is
that
just
an
issue
of
happenstance?
Maybe
they
don't
have
the
manpower?
C
Duffy
for
the
record,
thank
you
for
the
question,
but
I
have
a
clarification
when
you
say
not
referring
them
to
the
juvenile
program.
You
mean
citations
for
the
thc
correct,
so
bridget
duffy
for
the
record.
Yes,
so
the
they
are
referring,
but
they're
they're,
referring
them
and
they're
going
to
diversionary
services
or
for
a
first-time
offense.
Under
the
school
justice
partnership.
They
could
do
school-based
services
it's
up
to
their
discretion
as
a
law
enforcement
officer,
so
they're
still
being
seen
the
harbor
it's
one
of
their
top
two
charges.
C
It
used
to
be
one
of
our
top
file
charges,
but
we're
using
the
program
because
it
becomes
for
in
in
clark
what
we
do
is
say.
Does
this
child
need
a
probation
officer
or
does
this
child
need
an
assessment
in
services
and
for
something
like
that?
That's
a
that's
something!
E
A
B
I'm
not
sure
this
question
can
actually
be
answered.
We've
talked
a
lot
about
washoe
county
we've
talked
about
clark
county,
I'm
just
curious.
Do
we
have
any
numbers?
How
are
the
juveniles
being
treated
in
the
rurals?
Do
they
have
the
diversion
programs,
their
arrests?
How
are
we've
got
15
other
counties
to
deal
with,
and
I
know
the
numbers
aren't
there,
but
I'd
really
be
curious
to
see
where
they
stand.
On
some
of
these
issues
too,
I
know
we've
got
warsho
clark
dcfs.
If
they
could
chime
in.
C
Liz
excuse
me
one
second,
I
was
this
is
bridget
duffy
for
the
record,
so
it
it
may
help
you
to
know
that
myself
and
washoe
county
da's
office,
as
well
as
the
d.a
out
in
carson
city.
We
routinely
spend
time
together
on
teams
kind
of
discussing
issues,
and
I
know
I
can.
C
I
can't
speak
for
the
other
15
counties,
obviously,
but
I
can
say
that
they
are
at
least
in
carson
city,
facing
similar
issues
that
we
have
having
the
same
type
of
diversionary
programs,
not
as
robust
say
as
the
harbor,
but
they
are
diverting
more
children
and
and
seeing
the
same
amount
of
top
offenses
within
their
county.
So
we
spend
time
talking
to
each
other
on
how
we
operate
and
how
we
process
cases
and
what
we're
seeing
within
our
counties.
L
Not
better
just
different,
this
is
liz
flores
for
the
record.
I
wanted
to
add
to
that
that
also
in
our
state,
as
a.d
willihan
mentioned
previously,
we
have
the
nevada
association
of
juvenile
justice
administrators
where
all
of
the
chiefs
assistant
chiefs
and
detention,
managers
and
other
other
staff
across
the
state
who
work
in
juvenile
justice,
including
state
membership,
discuss
juvenile
justice
matters
and
just
from
that
interaction,
it's
very
clear
to
me
and
others
that
the
rurals
also
participate
in
active
diversionary
practices.
L
There
are
particular
there
are
unique
constraints
and
resource
issues
that
are,
you
know,
unique
to
to
rural
to
rural
agencies.
Also,
we
are
required
to
report
to
the
state
annually
what
our
diversionary
numbers
are,
so
the
state
does
have
access
to
that
data
on
an
annual
basis.
Thank
you.
B
L
Liz
flores
for
the
record,
I
believe,
on
the
juvenile
justice
oversight.
Commission.
There
is
a
member
commissioner
pauline
sala
who
routinely
speaks
on
behalf
of
the
rural
jurisdictions.
She
is
over
in
humboldt
county.
B
A
And
thank
you
assembly,
member
o'neill.
It
sounds
like
ms
salla
was
invited
to
this
meeting
and
maybe
wasn't
able
to
make
a
presentation
or
able
to
send
anybody
from
naja.
A
A
So
I'm
not
seeing
anybody
hopping
up
or
calling
in
so
I'm
thinking
they
might
be
listening
in
from
the
internet.
So
are
there
other
questions
from
our
members
in
carson
city
or
anywhere
else?
All
right?
I
am
not
seeing
any
so.
That
concludes
agenda.
Item
number.
Seven.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
presentations
and
all
of
your
hard
work.
This
brings
us
to
our
lunch
break.
A
We
are
going
to
take
about
a
40
minute
break,
I'm
going
to
ask
everybody
to
be
back
here
at
12
30,
that
is
half
past
noon
and
we
will
be
starting
back
up
with
the
public
defenders
offices.
Then
we'll
talk
to
the
aclu
and
have
some
public
comment
all
right.
The
committee
is
in
recess.
A
All
right,
we
are
going
to
call
this
committee
back
to
order.
People
are
filing
back
in
and
I
think
some
of
our
members
did
have
to
leave
early,
but
I
hope
they
will
catch
up
with
the
recording
later.
I
should
have
checked
to
make
sure
that
our
presenters
were
ready
before
I
dove
in
we
are
on
looks
yes,
I
see
somebody
with
a
very
friendly
face
nodding
at
me.
A
We
are
on
agenda
item
number,
eight,
our
overviews
from
the
public
defenders
offices,
and
I
thought
I
saw
someone
online
from
washoe
county,
but
as
we
have
been
doing
there,
we
are
with
the
rest
of
the
presentations.
I
will
leave
it
up
to
you
guys
to
tell
us
how
you're
going
to
divide
and
conquer
so
without
any
further
ado.
Please
go
ahead,
introduce
yourself
and
tell
us
about
what's
going
on
with
public
defenders.
D
Good
afternoon
sheriff
scheible
members
of
the
committee,
I
am
going
to
share
my
screen
and
we
will
get
started
with
our
presentation.
D
D
Perfect
so,
as
you
all
know,
my
name
is
kendra
burchie
and
I'm
with
the
washoe
county
public
defender's
office.
I
have
the
pleasure
of
presenting,
on
behalf
of
our
office,
along
with
jennifer
frazier
who's,
the
chief
deputy
public
defender
of
the
juvenile
juvenile
division
down
in
clark
county
about
the
legislative
updates,
recommended
legislation
and
trends
that
we
have
seen
so
just
to
give
an
overview
of
our
presentation.
H
Good
afternoon,
sheri,
scheibel
and
members
of
the
committee,
thank
you
for
inviting
me
today
to
discuss
the
topics
of
juvenile
justice
specifics
for
our
office.
My
name
is
jennifer
fraser
I've
been
a
public
defender
for
a
little.
Over
15
years,
I've
been
in
the
position
of
chief
deputy
public
defender,
the
supervisor
at
our
office
for
the
past
three
years,
a
little
bit
about
our
office
or
just
juvenile
court.
In
general,
all
children
who
come
before
the
court
when
a
petition
is
filed
are
appointed
counsel,
whether
it's
a
misdemeanor
gross
misdemeanor
or
felony
offense.
H
Our
children
in
juvenile
justice
court
are
also
councils,
stay
on,
unlike
other
jurisdictions
post-disposition.
So
if
there's
issues
after
dispositional
hearing
and
a
dispositional
hearing
is
akin
to
a
sentencing,
hearing
in
the
adult
system
counsel
remain
on
the
case
for
issues
while
a
child's
on
probation.
If
there's
restitution
issues,
placement
issues,
a
whole
host
of
issues
come
up
after
a
disposition,
and
our
office
remains
on
the
case.
For
those
our
office
has
12
attorneys,
including
myself.
We
have
four
attorneys
that
are
specifically
devoted
to
the
certification
and
juvenile
sex
offense
cases.
H
Those
are
kind
of
a
specialization
within
our
specialization
of
juvenile
defense.
All
of
our
attorneys
handle
multiple
spec,
the
multiple
specialty
court,
calendars
that
we
have
in
juvenile
court
and
I'll
list.
Those
for
clarification.
We
have
certification
calendar.
We
have
mental
health
calendars,
which
primarily
deal
with
placement
issues.
That's
been
a
topic
brought
up
throughout
the
morning
about
difficulties
with
competency,
severe
mental
health
cases
and
those
cases
end
up
on
that
calendar.
H
Juvenile
sex,
offense
calendar,
a
sexually
exploited
youth
calendar,
dual
status,
calendar
dual
status
describes
children
who
are
both
in
the
systems
of
juvenile
delinquency
and
dependency,
so
an
open
dfs
case
as
well
as
delinquency,
so
those
youth
would
have
both
a
probation
officer
and
a
dfs
caseworker,
and
the
goal
is
to
have
all
parties
work
together.
That's
a
newer
calendar.
The
past
few
years,
a
drug
court
calendar
a
restitution
court
calendar
as
well
as
a
day
court
calendar
which
deals
specifically
with
youth
who
are
on
the
autism
spectrum
disorder.
H
We
have
a
total
of
22
employees,
including
investigators,
social
workers,
secretaries
and
clerks
just
to
go
over
some
data.
With
regard
to
our
more
serious
cases
that
we
handle
in
2021
calendar
year,
we
had
approximately
70
certifications
that
we
handled
those
are
cases
that
weren't
necessarily
ended
up
certified
but
where
the
state
sought
certification
and
approximately
112
juvenile
sex
offense
cases
in
2020,
as
discussed
earlier.
H
That
was
an
anomaly
with
lower
cases,
although
we
did
have
65
certifications
so
that
the
number
wasn't
that
different
from
where
we
were
last
year
and
then
136,
juvenile
sex,
offenses
and
then
20
19
70,
certifications
158.
H
So
these
are
just
cases
that
our
office
handles,
but
you
can
see
the
certification
numbers
always
hover
around
65
to
70,
and
there
is,
although
there
is
some
variation
within
the
sex
offenses,
and
I
will
turn
it
over
to
mit,
miss
burchie
to
discuss
washoe
county
office.
D
Thank
you,
kendra
birchy,
for
the
record,
the
main
difference-
and
I
think
ms
fraser
did
a
great
job
and
we've
heard
from
the
other
presenters
of
really
what
we
do
with
the
public
defender's
office
when
we
represent
our
clients
involved
in
the
juvenile
justice
system.
The
biggest
difference
between
our
office
and
clark
county's
office
is
obviously
the
number
of
attorneys.
D
We
only
have
three
attorneys
who
are
designated
specifically
to
juvenile
justice,
so
they
are
the
attorneys
who
handle
any
case
that
comes
in
with
a
minor
child
who
is
under
the
purview
of
the
court
system,
and
that
does
also
now
include
those
tpo
hearings
as
well.
So
there's
only
three
attorneys
that
we
have
designated
just
for
those
positions
because
there's
only
three,
we
do
have
some
coverage
where
our
office
we
do
cross-train,
and
so
our
members
of
our
attorneys
are
able
to
assist
as
needed.
That
is
not
our
preference.
D
Obviously
we
want
to
have
those
designated
to
who
handled
the
juvenile
justice
issues
covering
those
cases
like,
as
you
saw
in
the
other
presentation
from
the
washoe
county
district
attorney's
office.
We
do
not
have
full
time
the
secretary
assigned.
We
do
have
one
who
assists.
We
do
not
have
a
full-time
investigator
who
just
handles
these
cases
they
have
to.
They
also
provide
coverage
for
other
attorneys
as
well.
So
with
that,
I
will
turn
to
our
next
issue.
D
Going
to
the
legislation
that
was
just
passed
so
I'll
start
with
sb7
and
as
a
reminder,
that
is
the
temporary
protective
order
bill
which
does
authorize
the
those
who
are
the
adverse
party
to
have
counsel
our
office
has
been
providing
counsel
to
those
individuals
to
those
children.
Since
january
of
2022,
we've
had
18
cases.
D
With
that
case,
there's
also
some
clarifications
that
we'd
like
to
see
and
so
we're
again
we're
working
with
stakeholders
to
find
out.
Is
this
the
best
system
in
terms
of
the
standard
right
now?
It's
this,
whether
or
not
it
meets
the
satisfaction
of
the
court.
So
there's
some
issues
of
whether
or
not
possibly
the
delay
in
when
a
case
is
filed
versus
when
the
incident
occurred,
whether
or
not
that
needs
to
be
added
into
statute
to
have
some
form
of
immediacy
involved.
D
In
these
hearings
we
still
have
the
concerns
about
invited
conduct,
since
the
ad
applicant
is
technically
the
parent
at
least
how
it's
been
appearing
in
our
system
is
it's
the
parent
who
then
is
the
applicant,
and
then
that's
not
the
person
who
is
in
court
or
in
the
classroom,
potentially
with
the
other
child,
and
there's
still
that
issue
of
whether,
when
that
adverse
party
has
the
the
applicant,
is
the
one
who
reaches
out
to
the
adverse
party,
obviously
still
there.
If
there's
a
tpo.
D
We
have
not
seen
that
a
case
that
was
dissolved
has
been
sealed,
so
we're
working
forward
with
the
courts
as
well
as
we'll
be
reaching
out
with
a
central
repository
just
to
make
sure
that
that
is
being
done,
since
that
is
a
crucial
issue
to
make
sure
that
if
this
case
was
dissolved
or
didn't,
go
forward
that
that
information
is
sealed,
so
that
it
doesn't
impact
this
child
negatively.
D
D
And
jennifer,
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
pipe
in
now
about
how
your
office
is
handling.
H
Jennifer
fraser
for
the
record.
Thank
you.
Kendra
I
reached
out.
Our
office
is
not
handling
these,
but
I
did
reach
out
to
the
hearing
master
who,
by
administrative
order,
the
hearing
masters
in
our
juvenile
court
have
been
responsible
for
handling
these
hearings.
Since
january
22nd,
there
have
been
49
16
in
april
alone,.
D
And
your
tree
for
the
record
I'll
turn
to
ab158,
and
this
is
the
bill
that
we
were
just
discussing
a
lot
with
the
clark
county
and
washington
county
district
attorney's
office.
What
we've
noticed,
as
indicated
by
the
washoe
county
public
of
washoe
county
district
attorney's
office,
is
that
they
are
interpreting
marijuana
as
not
including
all
forms
of
marijuana.
D
As
part
of
our
testimony
on
the
bill.
We
believe
that
the
intent
was
to
include
all
forms
of
marijuana
and
the
whole
purpose
is
just
to
make
sure
that
we
have
equal
justice
and
we
have
a
system
in
place
so
that
all
children
who
appear
before
the
juvenile
courts,
whether
or
not
it's
in
clark,
county,
washoe,
county
or
in
any
of
the
rural
jurisdictions,
know
what
the
penalties
are
and
what
they're
facing
that
they're
evenly
distributed.
D
So
we
will
continue
to
work.
We've
already
been
working
with
the
district
attorney's
office
and
we
will
continue
to
try
to
work
with
them
as
well
as
assemblywoman
danielle
monroe
moreno,
to
make
sure
that
we
capture
these
individuals
correctly
and
just
to
reach
out
some
questions.
I
think
I
might
be
asked
what
we're
hoping
to
do
is
just
have
it
treated
the
same
as
marijuana
so
that
the
children
would
be
receiving
some
form
of
informal
probation.
D
H
H
Jennifer
fraser
for
the
record.
Thank
you
kendra.
I
echo
everything
that
kendra
just
testified
to
regarding
the
disparity
in
treating
marijuana
versus
the
marijuana
concentrate.
We
heard
testimony
earlier
from
d.a
duffy
indicating
that
this
isn't
a
present
issue
in
our
jurisdiction,
where
we're
not
seeing
these
charges.
Although
her
testimony
was
that
she
does
believe
with
the
current
law
that
she
does
have
the
authority
to
do
that.
So
I
would
welcome
the
fix
and
to
look
back
at
the
legislative
intent
of
ab158
when
that
was
enacted
in
2021.
H
I'd
like
to
move
on
to
our
discussion
about
ab-132
ab-132
delt
was
2021
legislation
which
simplified
the
miranda
warning
for
youth.
I
don't
have
any
specific
feedback
about
this
change
other
than
that.
It's
very
appreciated
to
see
developmentally
appropriate
language
for
our
kids.
H
That
law
in
2021-
I
don't
think
most
people
even
know,
because
I
know
when
I'm
talking
to
my
clients
and
their
families,
that
they
don't
understand
that
it's
perfectly
legal
perfectly
acceptable
during
an
interrogation
for
an
officer
to
tell
a
suspect
whether
a
child
or
an
adult
that
there's
evidence
that
they
have
evidence.
That,
in
fact,
doesn't
exist
that
they
have
video
surveillance
of
a
child,
committing
a
crime
that
doesn't
exist
that
they
found
the
child
fingerprints
in
the
room
of
a
burglary
that
doesn't
exist.
H
The
problems
with
that
is
that
it
leads
to
false
confessions,
and
we
know
that
false
confessions
are
more
of
a
problem
for
youth
than
it
is
for
adults.
That's
why
this
proposed
ideas
for
legislation
is
specific
for
kids
to
try
to
curb
any
type
of
false
confessions,
and
that
would
be
and
that
that's
the
goal
is
to
reduce
the
likelihood
of
false
confessions
by
prohibiting
any
kind
of
false
statements
being
made
during
an
interrogation
and
I'll
pass
it
along
to
ms
vershy
to
discuss
that
as
well.
D
We
would
just
echo
the
same
kendrick
for
the
record
of
how
important
it
is
to
ensure
that
our
children
are
protected.
I
know
that
both
assemblywoman
kreisner
and
assemblyman
flores
worked
very
hard
in
the
last
legislative
session
to
ensure
that
our
children
are
afforded
all
the
protections
that
they
can
because
of
the
unique
circumstances
that
deal
with
having
children
with
their
brain
development.
D
H
Jennifer
fraser
for
the
record
in
discussions
for
ab230.
H
I
noted
looking
at
just
kind
of
a
six-month
snapshot
from
november
2021.
The
law
was
enacted
in
october
of
2021
kind
of
seeing
the
difference
in
the
immediate
six
months
after
where
we're
at
about
50,
where
we're
handling
about
50,
cert,
certifications
and
then
comparing
that
to
prior
that
same
six-month
snapshot,
32
and
then
35..
H
So
the
numbers
have
increased
to
where
I
think
we
expected
approximately
two
to
three
extra
cases
per
month.
So
that's
in
line
with
what
we
had
talked
about
and
I
wanted
to
discuss
when
you
know
when
we're
we're
eliminating
direct
files,
then
the
natural
progression
is
we're
increasing
certifications.
H
So
the
intent
to
eliminate
direct
files
is
the
automatic
transfer
of
a
child
into
the
adult
system,
but
our
goal
as
an
office
and
as
well
as
washoe
county,
is
to
decrease
overall
transfers
to
the
adult
system,
whether
it's
through
an
automatic
process
or
the
discretionary
certification
process.
There
was
discussion
earlier
about
the
racial
disparity
in
juvenile
justice.
H
I
think,
when
you're
looking
at
diversion
cases
which
are
the
lower
level,
offenses
you'll
see
disparity,
but
as
you
go
through
the
system
and
you
go
to
each
higher
level
of
care,
probation,
then
correctional
placement
and
then
certification.
I
think
you'll
see
the
disparity
widen
as
you
get
more
and
more
serious
or
more
higher
level
of
cases.
H
H
The
numbers
are
clear:
we're
21
hispanic,
36,
black
10
white,
two
asian
american
pacific
islander
and
one
native
american.
So
there
you
have
81
percent
of
certifications,
are
black
and
brown
children,
85
non-white
and
then
so.
That's
a
clear
snapshot
of
racial
disparity
in
the
certification
process.
H
When
we're
looking
at
the
number,
the
petitions
and
a
lot
of
people,
I
think
would
think
that
the
certifications
are
used
for
the
worst
of
the
worst,
the
more
serious
offenders,
but
looking
at
the
numbers,
many
of
the
cases
that
the
state
is
seeking
to
certify
to
the
adult
system
are
on
their
first
petition
to
juvenile
court.
So
that
means
those
kids
didn't
have
any
prior
services
from
the
court.
They
may
have
been
through
the
harbor,
but
they
they
had
never
been
before
the
judge.
H
So
those
are
first
petitions,
their
first
arrest,
their
first
time
in
detention
and
then
those
kids
and
their
families
are
being
you
know,
facing
the
certification
facing
the
adult
system.
Many
of
those
kids
can
also
be
as
young
as
14
or
15
years
old.
The
way
the
statute
is
written
today
is
that
any
child
14
or
older
who's
accused
of
committing
a
felony.
What
would
be
a
felony
offense
as
an
adult,
is
subject
to
discretionary
certification?
H
So,
there's
no
limitation
on
what
kind
of
felony
offense
could
subject
a
child
to
certification.
Of
course,
the
majority
of
the
ones
that
we
see
are
robbery,
offenses
or
other
offenses
with
the
use
of
a
firearm.
But
it's
not
unheard
of
to
see
non-violent
offenses
facing
certification,
something
like
a
possession
stolen
vehicle.
H
H
This
would
potentially
and
to
reduce
the
numbers
of
first-time
offenders
facing
the
possibility
of
entering
the
adult
system
would
like
to
see
the
minimum
age
increase
from
14
and
15.
I
think
we
had
approximately
10
cases
in
2021
of
14
and
15
year
olds
facing
certification
and
to
also
limit
the
type
of
offenses.
The
state
can
seek
certification
on
to
get
rid
of
that
broad
discretion
that
they
have
and
limiting
it
to
only
violent
offenses
and
our
most
serious
offenses
that
we
see
and
I'll
pass
it
to
kendra
to
discuss
this
topic
as
well.
D
We
do
have
some
concerns
about
those
who
who
are
children
who
are
in
then
at
our
washer
county
detention
center
when
they
do
face
direct
certification.
I
know
that
our
office
has
worked
a
lot
with
the
district
attorney's
office
and
the
juvenile
probation
services
to
figure
out
ways
with
how
to
better
assist
those
children.
I
know
that
that's
a
topic
on
a
different
bill,
but
I
do
want
to.
D
With
I'd
like
to
turn
to
assembly
bill
251,
this
is
the
bill
that
assemblywoman
krasner
set
forth,
with
acting
with
juvenile
justice
about
expungement
and
sealing
the
same
thing.
Really
with
this
that
we
we've
had
some
issues
that
we've
been
able
to
work
with
the
court
on
just
making
sure
that
this
is
being
applied.
Retroactively.
D
To
get
that
second
chance
to
seal
their
records.
So
it
looks
like
we
are
still
working
on
implementing
it
and
much
more
needs
to
be
done
with
the
court
system
to
make
sure
that
this
is
done
in
washoe
county.
And
we
look
forward
to
continuing
to
work
with
the
partners
to
make
sure
that
our
children
are
getting
that.
Second
chance.
H
Thank
you,
jennifer
fraser,
for
the
record,
I'm
happy
to
report,
as
you
heard
earlier
from
assistant
director
willahan,
that
our
jurisdiction
takes.
This
very
seriously
is
in
making
efforts
that
this
is
happening.
Of
course,
there's
a
backlog
but
they're
always
open
to
working
with
me.
Our
office
as
stakeholders
have
contact
people
that
we
can
contact
to
make
sure
this
is
rolled
out,
and
it's
just
really.
I
I'm
grateful
for
this
bill.
H
It's
it's
nice
to
be
able
to
talk
to
our
clients
and
tell
them
that
their
record
is
going
to
seal
when
they're
18
instead
of
21.
when
you're
talking
to
a
14
or
15
year,
old
21,
just
seemed
so
far
off
so
being
able
to
communicate
that
and
let
them
know
about
the
18
has
been
a
real
pleasure
and
I'll
pass
over
to
kendra
for
our
next
topic.
D
Then
we
wanted
to
share
kendrick
richie
for
the
record
some
potential
ideas
for
legislation
and
going
along
with
the
lines
with
that
last
bill.
Now
that
the
records
are
supposed
to
be
sealed
at
18,
we
have
concerns
with
how
this
will
impact
a
juvenile
if
they
come
back
into
the
justice
system
as
an
adult.
Currently
our
practice,
if
somebody
is
convicted
of
a
felony
or
gross
misdemeanor
at
their
sentencing,
the
division
of
parole
probation
will
provide,
what's
called
a
pre-sentence
investigation
report
to
the
court
contained
in
that
pre-sentence
investigation
report
is
someone's
criminal
history.
D
Previously,
the
criminal
history,
depending
on
the
person's
age,
may
include
some
of
their
juvenile
history,
so
someone
could
be
before
the
court
in
for
a
gross
misdemeanor
offense
that
they
are
over
the
age
of
let's
say:
they're
21
and
their
juvenile
history.
So
what
happened
before
they
turned
18
would
be
provided
to
the
court.
Given
the
posture
of
this
legislature
and
really
wanting
to
ensure
that
children
have
second
chances.
D
H
Thank
you,
kendra
jennifer
fraser,
for
the
record.
We
have
some
ideas
on
improving
the
consent
decree,
but
first
I'll
explain
what
a
consent
decree
is
pursuant
to
62c,
200
or
I'm
sorry.
230
you'll
find
the
statutes
headed
under
the
informal
supervision,
so
specifically
a
consent
decree.
The
way
juvenile
justice
you've
heard
a
lot
about
diversion
and
informal
supervision.
H
Consent
decree
is
considered
an
informal
supervision,
but
it's
under
the
heading
of
the
court
being
able
to
refer
for
a
consent
decree
specifically
that
the
da
it
says
the
statute
allows
for
the
da
to
file
a
delinquency
petition
with
the
court.
So
these
are
cases
that
are
out
of
the
harbor
out
of
diversion
court
and
the
statute
provides
that
the
court
has
options
to
either
dismiss
the
petition
and
refer
the
case
to
probation
for
informal
supervision
or
place
the
child
under
the
supervision
of
the
court
by
way
of
a
supervision
and
consent
decree.
H
In
these
instances,
the
child
is
not
adjudicated
delinquent
and
not
placed
on
formal
supervision.
This
type
of
diversionary
tool
is
particularly
helpful
for
jurisdictions,
not
in
clark
county
as
you've
heard
all
morning.
We
have
a
lot
of
diversionary
practices.
The
harbor
helps
us
out.
I've
been
at
the
pd's
office
since
06
before
the
harbor.
A
lot
of
our
low-level
cases
that
are
now
being
held
handled
in
the
harbor
were
consent
decree
cases.
H
So
I
think
this,
the
consent
decree
would
be
a
useful
tool
for
our
other
jurisdictions,
including
rural
jurisdictions,
but
there's
an
issue
within
the
statute
that,
although
it
allows
the
court
to
refer
for
informal
supervision,
the
district
attorney
has
to
provide
approval
and
we
believe
that
that
poses
separation
of
powers
issues
allows
the
state
to
basically
that's
not
giving
the
court
the
power
to
do
it.
It's
giving
the
state
the
power-
and
I
know
that
that
has
raised
some
issues
in
washoe
county,
so
I'll
pass
this
along
to
miss
burshy,
to
discuss.
D
Thank
you,
kendra
burchie,
for
the
record.
That's
exactly
what
was
just
discussed
of.
We
believe
that
this
is
a
tool
that
can
be
used
by
judges
to
make
sure
that
cases
are
receiving
those
informal
treatment,
and
so
our
goal
with
what
we
are
hoping
to
see
in
proposal.
Legislation
is
just
giving
that
power
and
that
discretion
to
the
court.
And
so
what
set
forth
in
nrs
62c
point
200.1
b
is
it
requires
the
written
agreement
from
the
district
attorney.
D
We
believe
that
that
is
a
violation
of
separation
of
powers,
which
is
exactly
the
issue
that
this
body
took
up
in
the
2019
legislative
session,
based
off
of
the
hern
decision
within
assembly,
bill
222
with
the
veterans
court
program,
and
so
we're
hoping
that
this
body
would
look
into
that
issue
to
just
again
give
more
discretion
to
the
court
to
utilize
those
descent
or
consent.
Decrees
for
those
jurisdictions
that
do
not
have
the
amazing
diversionary
programs
like
they
do
in
clark
county.
D
What
we
currently
have
is
there's
no
defined
term
limit
in
juvenile
justice
cases,
so,
for
example,
a
13
year
old,
there's
nothing
in
statute
that
says
that
if
they
come
before
the
court
at
age,
13
of
when
they
would
be
off
of
probation
or
even
when
they
could
be
looking
at
being
off
of
probation
other
jurisdictions
and
I'm
happy
to
provide
more
information
to
the
members
of
this
committee
have
set
various
different
terms.
D
Some
of
them
are
six
months
terms,
so
we
don't
have
a
best
answer
yet
for
this
body
of
what
we
think
would
be
the
model
legislation,
but
we
think
that,
based
off
of
what
had
occurred
with
assembly
bill
236
from
the
2019
legislative
session,
that
this
is
also
a
natural
progression
of
that
bill
to
impose
some
probationary
term
limits
in
these
cases,
so
that
we
can
provide
just
have
that
information
for
children
who
are
involved
in
the
system
and
I'll
turn.
It
now
to
ms
fraser.
H
Thank
you,
jennifer
fraser,
for
the
record.
We
would
echo
those
sentiments
currently
in
clark
county.
We
do
have
term
limits
if
the
average
is
six
months.
For
the
average
case,
more
serious
cases
could
be
up
to
12
months
per
statute.
Some
juvenile
sex
offenses
are
36
months
and
then
others
would
be
anywhere
from
one
year
to
three
years.
So
we
are
a
jurisdiction
that
has
term
limits,
but,
as
kendra
indicated,
there's
nothing
by
statute
that
guarantees
that
so
we
would
like
some
statutory
help
with
that
kind
of
related
to
the
probation
term.
H
H
This
impacts,
children
of
lower
socioeconomic
status,
a
child
who
struggles
to
pay
or
his
family
cannot
pay
that
child
stays
on
probation
longer
than
a
child.
Who
has
means
and
can
pay
this.
Our
our
request
is
that
a
child
would
not
have
to
remain
on
probation
if
restitution
balance
is
owed,
it
would
not
eliminate
the
restitution
order.
It
would
not
eliminate
the
ability
for
a
civil
confession
of
judgment
to
be
to
be
triggered
at
18,
but
just
to
allow
the
child
to
terminate
from
probation.
H
I
would
note
in
the
adult
system,
adults
who
have
not
paid
off
their
restitution
balance
do
not
remain
on
probation
or
parole,
and
we
think
this
would
be
a
positive
move
forward
for
our
kids.
We
were
talking
about.
I
heard
assistant
director,
william
talk
about
incentives
for
kids
and
it's
a
huge
incentive
to
finish
probation
to
know
that
you
accomplished
it.
You
didn't
get
into
trouble.
H
You
completed
all
of
your
terms
and
I
think
it's
it's
an
anchor
on
a
child
to
keep
them
on
probation
for
potentially
years,
even
if
it's
considered,
if
they
transfer
it
to
like
a
a
probation
without
supervision.
That's
still
an
anchor
on
that
child
simply
because
of
a
financial
issue,
and
I
think
that's
it
for
our
suggestions
and
we
just
have
some
closing
thoughts
regarding
our
kids
and
mental
health.
H
I
know
in
the
news
recently
there's
been
a
lot
of
stories
about
issues
in
school,
increased
incidences
of
violence
and-
and
I
don't
think
that
can
be
discussed
or
looked
out
without
really
talking
about
mental
health,
and
I
think
that's
something
that
all
of
the
presenters
can
agree
on
today
about
the
need.
The
increase
increase
need,
we
see,
I
think,
with
our
kids,
mostly
being
out
of
in-person
school
for
almost
two
years.
H
H
D
Thank
you,
kendra
burchie,
for
the
record.
We
just
want
to
echo
that
of.
We
really
hope
that
this
legislative
body,
when
you
are
considering
your
bill
draft
request
for
juvenile
justice
of
keep
in
mind
that
mental
health
needs
to
be
at
the
forefront
that
we
need
to
provide
more
services
to
these
children.
A
Thank
you
both
so
much
that
was
really
informative,
and
I
appreciate
your
suggestions
at
the
end
because,
as
you
know,
this
committee
will
be
looking
at
some
bill
draft
requests
in
august,
and
so
it's
always
good
to
get
started
on
that
earlier.
Rather
than
later,
do
members
here
in
las
vegas
have
any
questions
all
right:
assemblywoodwoman
win.
F
Can
you
just
clarify
you
were
talking
about
the
record
of,
I
guess
juvenile
records
being
included
in
the
psi?
I
I
thought
we
don't
include
them
in
the
psi.
Any.
D
Longer,
andrew
chief
of
the
record,
so
what
we've
seen
is,
depending
on
the
adult's
age,
if
they're
under
the
age
of
21,
it's
been
included,
and
so
we
just
want
to
we're
hoping
that
with
this
new
legislation
of
ab251,
that
that
will
solve
some
of
those
issues,
but
just
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
very
clear
that
it
cannot
be
included
in
the
pre-sentence
investigation
report.
Regardless
of
how
old
that
individual
is.
F
D
Hendra
birchie
for
the
record.
I
can't
answer
that
as
of
the
first
of
the
year,
it's
my
understanding
that
it
was,
but
I
will
get
back
to
you
just
to
make
sure
I
haven't
seen
it
in
any
of
my
cases,
but
this
was
something
that
my
office
had
put
forward
as
something
that
was
important.
But
I
will
double
check
and
get
back
to
you.
H
Jennifer
fraser
for
the
record.
I
know
that
was
an
issue
that
we
kind
of
put
on
our
radar
at
the
beginning
of
the
year
to
look
out
for
I
didn't
specifically
when
working
on
this
presentation
get
to
talk
to
mr
pirro
about
that,
and
I
can
follow
up.
I
I
would
know
we
heard
testimony
earlier,
there's
a
backlog
in
ceiling,
and
so
they
started
with
the
20
to
21
19
to
20..
So
I
think
there
is
potential
that
those
records
of
that
age
group
that
hasn't
been
sealed
could
still
be
making
it
on.
F
A
A
G
All
right,
just
a
quick
clarification,
I'm
just
off
for
a
little
bit.
So
pardon
me
for
asking
you
all
to
back
up
just
a
little
and
explain
to
me
the
vape
pen.
I
I
know
that
we
had
passed
legislation
that
was
sponsored
by
assemblywoman
danielle
monroe
moreno.
Could
you
just
explain
to
me.
G
D
Kendra
burchie
for
the
record
I'll
join
in,
since
this
is
really
right
now.
What
I've
seen
as
the
washoe
county
issue
of
the
district
attorney's
office
is
having
a
deciding
that
there's
a
difference
between
marijuana
versus.
If
there
is
a
vape
pencil,
concentrated
cannabis
and
the
statutes
do
allow
for
them
to
not
utilize
assembly
woman,
danielle,
monroe
moreno's
bill
and
having
everything
being
in
that
diversionary
state
of
having
the
informal
probation
when
it
is
a
vape
pen.
D
G
Thank
you
so,
just
a
little
bit
further
clarification
was
this
an
uns
un
unseen
consequence
from
that
law?
Did
we
not
was
this
unexpected
that
these
that
the
concentrate
could
be
excluded.
D
D
So
I
think
that
it
is
an
unforeseen
issue,
that's
now
coming
forward
and
especially
when
you
look
at
how
it's
just
being
resolved
across
the
state.
So
I
do
welcome
the
remarks
that
were
provided
by
assembly,
women,
danielle
and
marina.
Regarding
the
intention
and-
and
I
do
hope
that
either
her
or
this
body
does
look
into
fixing
that
issue.
G
G
A
All
right,
thank
you
for
asking
that
question.
I
don't
see
any
other
questions
in
las
vegas,
carson
city
or
online,
so
that
will
conclude
this
presentation
and
agenda
item
number.
Eight.
Thank
you
so
much
for
joining
us
and
that
will
move
us
to
agenda
item
number
nine,
a
an
update
from
our
friends
at
the
aclu,
who
I
I
think
are
up
in
carson
city
and
it
looks
like
someone's
sitting
at
the
table.
So
I
will
let
you
go
ahead,
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
ms
welborn
or
somebody
else
that.
P
P
I
do
want
to
say
at
the
outset
that
I
adopt
every
statement
that's
been
made
by
ms
fraser
and
miss
burchie.
Those
are
different
issues
that
we
also
work
on
and
support
several
different
entities,
such
as
mass
liberation
project,
our
colleagues
at
the
public
defender's
offices,
in
moving
forward
with
a
lot
of
those
policies.
So
we
do
also
recommend
the
legislation
that
was
brought
up
through
that
presentation,
but
I
do
want
to
focus
on
the
other
consequences.
You
know
when
we're
talking
about
these
direct
file
statutes
and
we're
talking
about
these
certification
statutes.
P
We
also
need
to
consider
where
we're
housing,
young
people
who
have
been
tried
as
adults.
This
is
a
project
and
an
issue
area
that
we
have
been
working
on
for
about
15
years
and
trying
to
change
our
statutes
to
address
this
issue.
P
So
I
think
background.
I'm
gonna
spend
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
background,
because
I
think
it's
important
for
the
committee
to
understand
the
origins
of
this
issue
nationally.
Some
of
the
case
law
is
very
important
for
our
analysis
and
in
what
we're
looking
at
and
understanding
where
kids
are
currently
housed
is
also
incredibly
important.
P
P
You
know,
we've
seen
the
youth
pod
we've
been
in
the
youth
pod
there's
you
know:
educational
instruction
and
other
more
age-appropriate
activities
for
those
individuals
in
clark
county.
But
when
you
branch
out
to
let's
say
elko
county
young
people
are
held
in
isolation
units
pre-trial
at
one
of
the
local
jails
due
to
the
prison,
rape,
elimination
act
and
other
federal
laws.
P
That's
the
same
case
for
washoe
county,
where
currently,
there
aren't
any
suitable
facilities
for
young
people
who
are
sent
to
the
adult
system,
so
the
alternatives
would
be
putting
those
young
people
in
the
infirmary
while
they
await
sentencing
or
but
but
fortunately,
jan
evans
and
the
juvenile
justice
institutions
up
in
the
north
do
retain
kids
pre-trial
at
the
youth
facility
until
they
are
sentenced
as
a
matter
of
policy.
P
As
a
matter
of
practice,
we
talked
a
lot
earlier
about
the
many
discoveries
in
adolescent
brain
science
that
demonstrate
that
youth
are
physiologically
psychologically
different
from
adults.
This
discovery
has
led
to
many
reforms
in
the
juvenile
justice
system,
including
limitations
on
solitary
confinement
of
youth,
abolition
of
the
death
penalty
for
juveniles
and
ending
life
without
parole
sentences.
P
The
end
of
life
without
parole
for
juveniles
is
operative
in
our
consideration
when
we
start
having
this
conversation
a
lot
of
the
times
when
I
engage
with
lawmakers
on
this
particular
issue,
people
really
focus
on
the
intensity
or
the
egregiousness
of
an
offense
that
leads
a
young
person
to
end
up
in
adult
court.
P
P
This
means
that
every
young
person
who
is
transferred
to
the
adult
system
will
eventually
have
a
parole
date.
They
will
be
released
to
the
community,
but
right
now
in
the
way
that,
in
the
places
that
we
house
young
people
in
the
manner
in
which
we
try
to
meet
those
young
people's
needs,
we
are
not
preparing
them
to
enter
society
because
they
are
living
in
isolation.
P
P
We
used
a
minimum
standards
assessment,
not
a
best
practices,
standard
assessment.
I
want
to
make
that
entirely
clear
that
our
analysis
back
in
2018
when
we
looked
at
this,
you
know
we
weren't
in
there
looking
to
see
whether
or
not
juvenile
facilities
in
the
state
of
nevada
are
perfect
or
meeting.
You
know
best
practices
standards,
but
are
they
meeting
minimum
standards
to
meet
those
physiological
and
physical
needs
of
a
young
person
in
order
for
them
to
appropriately
develop
and
to
be
successful
for
life
when
they
leave
prison
for
successful
for
life
outside
of
prison?
P
What
our
conclusions
were
at
that
point
were
that
adult
institutions
are
not
an
appropriate
placement.
So,
let's
start
by
looking
at
lovelock
correctional
center,
so
once
a
young
man
is
sentenced,
they
are
sent
to
the
nevada
department
of
corrections
and
they
are
put
in
the
youth
pod
at
the
lovelock
correctional
center.
P
P
Due
to
budget
constraints,
there
aren't
appropriate
staff
ratios
at
lovelock
correctional
for
young
people
to
engage
in
programming
throughout
the
day.
P
When
we
first
started
looking
at
this
under
the
leadership
of
former
director
james
zarenda
from
the
nevada
department
of
corrections,
we
had
a
conversation
about.
What
can
we
do
to
more?
For
what
can
we
do
to
a
more
humanely
address
the
needs
of
young
people,
and
it
was
very
much
his
position
at
the
time
that
the
ndoc
in
lovelock
was
not
at
all
the
appropriate
place
for
these
kids
in
here
today.
P
As
for
young
women,
young
women
right
now,
once
they're
sentenced,
they're
transferred
out
of
state,
there
is
no
placement
for
young
women
in
states,
so
they're
sent
away
from
their
families,
mostly
in
arizona
right
now.
At
one
time,
there
was
some
discussion
of
placing
a
portable
housing
unit
on
the
campus
of
florence
mcclure,
and
there
was
one
girl
at
the
time
who
qualified
so
she
would
have
lived
in
isolation
for
three
years
until
she
reached
the
age
of
majority.
P
So
you
know
that's
the
picture
that
we're
painting
here
of
how
we
are
failing.
Young
people,
by
keeping
them
in
adult
institutions
when
all
of
the
evidence
suggests
that
retaining
young
people
in
juvenile
institutions,
regardless
of
whether
they've
been
transferred
to
the
adult
court,
has
is
better
for
public
safety
in
washington
state.
The
recidivism
rate
for
young
people
dropped
by
25
in
the
state
of
oregon,
the
recidivism
rate
dropped
by
20
percent
and
in
virginia
by
30
percent
when
they
retained
youth.
The
outcomes
for
those
young
people
were
exponentially
better.
P
We're
grateful
for
the
number
of
stakeholders
who
have
come
to
the
table
on
this
issue.
We've
talked
with
the
district
attorneys.
We've
had
conversations
with
the
juvenile
justice
oversight.
Commission.
What
ends
up
happening
is
we
keep
coming
back
to
the
legislature
with
proposals
to
review
and
analyze
what
bed
space
looks
like
what
the
cost
would
be
to
transfer
funding
from,
let's
say
the
ndoc
to
division
of
child
and
family
services
in
order
to
find
more
appropriate
placement.
P
P
There
are
now
a
total
of
19
states
that
retain
youth
in
juvenile
correctional
facilities
and
they're,
seeing
a
lot
of
success.
There
are
a
lot
of
different
models
when
a
couple
interims
ago,
we
brought
some
folks
out
from
washington
and
oregon,
and
they
testified
before
the
child,
welfare
and
juvenile
justice
committee.
The
former
interim
committee
that
mr
guyan
spoke
about
earlier
and
talked
about
the
success
of
those
programs
and
the
different
models
that
exist
to
get
this
off
the
ground.
P
Some
states
will
have
correctional
officers
from
the
ndoc
who
actually
work
in
the
juvenile
facility
to
to
work
with
some
of
these
kids
that
might
have
more
egregious
offenses
and
need
different
therapeutic
services
or
level
of
supervision,
but
by
and
large
there
is
no
difference
between
a
child
who
commits
an
offense
that
gets
them
transferred
into
an
adult
into
adult
court
and
a
child
in
the
juvenile
system,
fundamentally
the
way
that
they
learn
that
they
develop
the
needs
that
they
have.
It
is
all
the
same.
P
P
P
So
it's
not
only
racial
disparities
in
the
way
that
we
sentence
youth,
but
even
compared
to
the
adult
prison
population,
we're
seeing
that
these
transfer
statutes
that
get
these
kids
into
an
adult
correctional
facility
for
crimes
that
mostly
include
robbery
with
use,
which
is
a
deadly
serious
offense,
but
we're
talking
about
moving
boys
to
the
prison
that
houses
convicted
sex
offenders.
P
So,
with
stakeholder
help
last
session,
we
pushed
sb
365,
which
would
have
established
a
pilot
program
that
would
have
moved
10
of
the
boys
down
to
one
of
the
dcfs
facilities,
but
unfortunately,
that
bill
did
not
move
forward.
It
had
a
2.4
million
dollar
fiscal
note
in
order
to
establish
the
program,
and
so
the
backup
bill
to
keep
this
conversation
going
and
to
really
understand
what
beds
are
available.
How
much
will
it
cost?
What
types
of
cost
sharing
agreements
can
we
enter
into
between
the
doc
and
juvenile
service
providers?
P
We
were
able
to
push
through
sb
356,
which
requires
the
juvenile
justice
oversight,
commission,
ndoc
and
dcfs
to
analyze
those
points,
so
we
can
start
moving
this
forward,
there's
also
sb
357,
which
requires
the
nevada
department
of
corrections
to
keep
various
data
on
the
the
people
in
their
custody,
the
young
people
in
their
custody.
P
So
you
know
with
that.
I
think
the
main
primary
recommendations
that
we
have,
of
course
the
the
ultimate
goal
and
aim
is
exactly
what
our
our
friends
at
the
public
defenders
offices
said
that
we
we
have
to
do
everything
we
can
to
limit
transfer
period,
but
we
also
have
to
do
something
to
address
the
inhumane
conditions
that
young
people
are
living
in
in
the
state
of
nevada
and
the
systems
that
we
have
set
up
set
in
place,
and
we
can
do
that
through
legislation.
P
I
do
think
that
passing
a
bill,
that's
requiring
the
state
to
retain
youth,
at
least
pre-sentencing
is
incredibly
important
and,
of
course,
we
will
need
to
advocate,
for
you
know,
budgetary
considerations
to
get
some
of
that
money
moved
in
order
to
find
bed
placement
in
a
more
appropriate
and
suitable
institution
for
young
people
and
and
also
you
know,
we're
open
to
talking
about
things
like
like
what
ms
duffy
had
talked
about
with.
P
You
know,
looking
at
different
sentencing
structures
to
retain
youth
and
juvenile
institutions,
but
by
and
large
you
know,
we've
we've
pushed
this
out
for
for
several
interims
and
and
and
it's
really
time
to
get
moving
on
this,
and
so
I'm
happy
to
talk
to
any
members
of
this
body.
P
I
think
really
diving
into
some
of
the
data
from
other
states
to
see
the
success
of
this
program
can
make
people
feel
more
comfortable
with
it.
But
it's
it's
past
time
that
we
find
a
solution.
So
I
think
with
that,
I
will
take
some
questions.
Thank
you.
A
G
P
Sure
I
could
give
them
a
loose
idea.
We
did
get
some
presentations
from
the
the
counties
on
with
some
of
those
those
stats
earlier
today.
I
think
they
were
in
in
their
presentation,
so
I
can
get
the
concrete
numbers
for
you,
but
it
does
seem
to
vary
county
by
county
for
the
certified
youth.
It's
you're
looking
at.
I
believe
what
they
had
said
earlier
on.
P
The
record
was
about
a
six-week
turnaround
to
go
through
that
certification
process
before
there's
a
determination
to
move
the
child
to
adult
court
and
then
the
turnaround
for
the
direct
files,
the
the
kids
who
commit
offenses
that
automatically
send
them
to
the
adult
institution.
I
actually
don't
know
that
we
had
that
people
spoke
to
that,
but
I
think
it's
within
a
matter
of
a
week
or
a
few
days
once
they
make
that
charging
decision.
G
So
what
so?
Are
you
suggesting
that
there
be
a
differentiation
between
which
group
certif
the
certification,
the
direct
file,
would
would
be
retained
or
all
just
help
me
understand.
G
So
you
had
mentioned
before
that
you
all
would
like
to
see
legislation
that
doesn't
put
juveniles
in
adult
facilities
at
all
as
an
option
or
retaining
them
in
juvenile
facilities.
Pre-Sentencing.
G
P
Got
it
thank
you
for
clarifying.
I
appreciate
that
holly
well
born
for
the
record.
I
think
I
I
I
think
it's
best
for
me
to
circle
back
and
talk
to
our
friends
in
the
public
defenders
offices
to
get
some
some
more
clarity,
but
I
think,
depending
on
you
know
the
trial
process
and
how
long
it
takes
to
move
through
that
you
know
what
that
proposal
would
be.
P
If
we
were
talking
about
something
pre-trial
or
pre-sentencing,
it
would
be
that
time
frame
between
the
the
moment
that
a
person
is
charged
and
the
moment
that
a
person
is
sentenced,
and
so
I
mean
that
that
can
range
from
weeks
to
a
few
months.
A
A
All
right,
I
am
not
seeing
any
so
thank
you,
ms
welborn,
for
your
presentation
and
much
like
the
public
defenders
for
providing
us
with
some
policy
solutions
for
the
upcoming
session.
We
appreciate
it
and
look
forward
to
talking
to
you
about
them
more
and
that
concludes
agenda.
Item
number
nine
on
today's
interim
judiciary
committee,
and
that
brings
us
to
agenda
item
number
ten,
which
is
public
comment.
Again.
A
Everybody
wishing
to
make
a
public
comment
we'll
have
three
minutes,
so
we
will
go
ahead
and
start
with
anybody
here
in
las
vegas.
I'm
not
seeing
anybody
in
person.
Is
there
anybody
in
person
in
carson
city
wishing
to
make
public
comment,
not
seeing
anybody,
so
we
will
go
to
the
phones.
I've
also
been
informed
that
we're
on
a
little
bit
of
a
delay.
So
today
we're
gonna,
wait
about
five
minutes
three
to
five
minutes
with
the
phone
lines
open
to
make
sure
that
there's
nobody
waiting
to
give
comments.
I
B
Hi,
jim
hoffman
nevada
attorneys
for
criminal
justice.
I
would
like
to
thank
the
president
presenters
first,
especially
the
public
defenders
and
the
aclu,
and
then
mr
whelan.
I
found
that
presentation
very
interesting.
B
B
Juveniles
and
adult
prisons
are
five
times
as
likely
to
be
sexually
assaulted,
as
juveniles
and
juvenile
detention
facilities,
juveniles
and
adult
prisons
are
36
times
as
likely
36
to
commit
suicide
as
juveniles
and
juvenile
detention
facilities,
and
so
to
me
those
are
both.
I
mean,
you
know
anytime,
a
juvenile
is
sexually
assaulted
or
commits
suicide.
That's
too
often,
but
those
numbers
are
so
severe
and
those
disparities
are
so
severe.
I
think
that.
P
B
A
duty
on
us
to
look
for
policy
solutions,
and
so
I
think,
eliminating
certification
or
restricting
it
more
sharply
or
else
finding
the
funding
somewhere
for
dedic
more
dedicated
juvenile
beds.
I
think
those
are
both
morally
incumbent
on
nevada
as
a
state,
so
I'd
urge
the
committee
to
look
at
those
solutions.
Thank
you.
A
All
right
since
our
first
caller
was
so
brief,
it
wasn't
even
three
minutes.
We
are
just
going
to
wait
for
a
couple
of
minutes
to
make
sure
that
there's
nobody
wishing
to
make
public
comment,
that's
on
a
delay.
Thank
you.
A
All
right,
I
think
we
have
been
on
the
line
for
about
four
minutes
now
bps.
Is
there
anybody
else
wishing
to
make
public
comment.
A
A
All
right
well,
thank
you
for
bearing
with
us
thank
you
for
keeping
the
line
open.
That
brings
us
to
the
conclusion
of
today's
meeting.
We
have
a
twofer
in
may.
We
are
meeting
again
a
week
from
today
on
may
13th
and
the
agenda
for
that
meeting.
I
think
I
just
approved,
so
I
think
it
will
be
posted
shortly
and
we
look
forward
to
seeing
many
of
you
there
again
as
well
as
in
june
and
july.
A
Oh
thank
you,
and
next
week
on
the
13th
we'll
have
a
little
bit
of
a
later
start,
we're
planning
to
start
at
10
a.m.
On
friday
may
13th,
and
I
think
that's
everything
this
meeting
is
now
adjourned.