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A
Good
morning,
we
welcome
you
to
the
11th
and
final
meeting
of
the
joint
interim
standing
committee
on
education.
A
I,
don't
know
that
we've
had
this
many
meetings
in
in
the
past,
so
this
will
be
a
great
meeting.
We've
got
some
really
good
topics
today
and
if
we
will
first
start
by
taking
the
roles
of
the
secretary,
please
call
the
roll.
A
Here,
thank
you
and
please
mark
assemblyman,
Hardy
and
some
of
them
and
Hansen
as
absent
excused.
Unfortunately,
our
alternate
member
was
also
unable
to
attend
in
their
presence.
We
originally
were
scheduled
to
meet
yesterday,
but
because
we
didn't
look
at
the
calendar
completely,
we
needed
to
make
a
change
and
and
to
today,
so
that
kind
of
facilitated
them
not
being
able
to
be
here.
A
But
we
appreciate
all
the
work
that
they've
done
all
right
before
we
begin
I'd
like
to
cover
some
housekeeping
reminders,
set
your
electronic
devices
to
silent,
when
speaking,
make
sure
you
identify
yourself
for
the
record
each
time
you
speak
and
you
have
to
turn
the
microphone
on
and
off
and
each
time
you
finish
speaking
and
then
sign
in
at
the
table.
A
If
you
haven't
already,
even
if
you
don't
plan
to
testify
the
meeting
materials
received
prior
to
the
meeting
have
been
uploaded
to
committee's
web
page,
you
can
receive
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notifications
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minutes
if
you
sign
up
with
on
our
website
and
finally
note
that
during
the
committee
meeting,
the
zoom
chat
feature
I
only
use
paper,
technical
assistance
from
our
broadcast
and
production.
Colleagues
with
that,
let's
get
started
with
public
comment.
Public
comment,
maybe
provided
in
several
ways
of
all
which
are
listed
on
the
agenda.
A
The
first
one
is
in
test
is
in
person
here
or
in
Carson
City
via
email
via
written
comments.
A
So
if,
if
you
are
calling
in
on
Zoom
we'll
have
our
production
staff
they're
going
to
interact
with
you
to
make
sure
that
we
can
hear
your
your
testimony
and
be
able
to
get
you
connected
so
I'll
begin.
First
of
all,
with
the
those
wishing
me
make
a
public
comment
here
in
Las
Vegas.
Anyone
wishing
to
give
public
comment.
If
you
just
come
forward
good
morning.
D
Good
morning,
members
of
the
commission,
my
name
is
Francesca
Petrucci
and
I
represent
the
Clark
County
Education
Association
CCA
is
the
largest
independent
Educators
Union
in
the
state
and
the
country.
The
commission
on
school
funding
came
out
of
SB
543,
which
CCA
has
and
will
continue
to
support.
We
would
like
to
see
the
committee's
work
continue
into
the
legislative
session,
as
their
report
will
be
used
to
spearheaded
discussion
around
optimal
levels
of
funding
and
educator
pay.
However,
the
challenge
we
face
is
not
a
lack
of
good
ideas
to
improve
our
system.
D
D
It
is
critical
that
whoever
remains
Works
in
a
bipartisan
strategic
way
is.
That
is
the
only
way
we
accomplish
Monumental
change,
CCA
cautions
everyone
and
the
danger
of
engaging
in
slogans
that
only
serve
as
campaign
fodder
and
neglect.
The
inextricable
link
between
our
education
delivery
system
and
our
economy
slogans
are
easy.
Legislation
and
outcomes
require
working
together
around
sound
and
realistic
goals,
as
we
have
done
in
the
past,
CCA
will
be
aggressive
in
the
next
legislative
session.
D
A
E
Morning,
I'm
Lena
hovenessian
on
behalf
of
the
Armenian
community
of
Las
Vegas
and
Nevada,
with
the
Armenian
National
Committee
of
America
I,
just
want
to
say
that
it's
a
delight
to
see
this
bill
come
into
the
implementation
stage.
I
our
community
greatly
appreciates
the
inclusion
of
the
Armenian
Genocide
to
combat
denialism
historical
accuracy
and
to
teach
the
Next
Generation
the
truth
about
history,
so
that
it
is
never
repeated.
E
A
B
F
Good
morning,
quick,
daily
Nevada,
State
Education
Association
the
voice
of
Nevada
Educators
for
over
120
years
today,
you
will
hear
a
presentation
on
education
funding
topics
and
recommendations
from
representatives
of
the
commission
on
school
funding
and
the
Nevada
Department
of
Education.
Since
the
introduction
of
s
p
543
in
2019
and
the
Phoenix
expressed
numerous
policy
concerns
with
the
new
funding
formula,
especially
the
fact
that
it
contained
no
new
revenue
and
lose
new
funding.
Sb
543
created
the
commission
on
school
funding,
charged
with
recommending
funding
targets
and
identifying
revenues
to
fully
fund
the
associated
costs.
F
Over
the
past
three
years,
the
commission
has
worked
to
identify
the
funding
shortfall
in
Nevada
schools
to
reach
optimal
funding.
Based
on
the
recommendations
of
subject
matter,
experts
Nevada
would
need
to
increase
its
poor
people
spending
by
more
than
five
thousand
dollars
today.
To
reach
this
goal
with
a
phased
approach,
it
would
require
an
additional
annual
appropriation
of
3.2
billion
dollars
by
2032..
This
approach
could
include
an
annualized
256
million
dollar
increase
in
2023
and
a
269
million
dollar
increase
in
2024
or
781
million
dollars
for
the
next
biennium
in
April
of
2021.
F
The
commission
published
their
preliminary
recommendation,
an
FDA,
largely
agreed
with
these
recommendations
and
pointed
out.
We
can
comment
on
legislators
to
implement
a
plan.
You
set
in
motion
put
the
passage
of
the
new
funding
formula
later
in
the
session.
While
some
new
Revenue
was
passed,
it
did
not
significantly
move
the
needle
toward
optimal
funding.
Instead,
it
prevent
it
Nevada
from
falling
further
behind.
F
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay.
Let's
go
to
the
next
item
on
the
agendas
item
number
three
approval
of
the
minutes
for
the
meeting
on
August,
9th
and
August
30th
2022
any
questions
or
Corrections.
A
Emotion
from
Vice
chair,
Bill
Reax,
we're
on
second
from
Senator
nondera
Loop,
any
further
discussion
on
the
motion
hearing,
then
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye,
any
opposed,
say
me
or
Richard
yeah.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
The
motion
passes.
A
All
right,
let's
go
on
to
and
the
minutes
are
approved.
Let's
go
on
to
agenda
item
number
four
presentation
on
education,
funding,
topics
and
recommendations.
A
We
have
with
us
guy
Hobbs,
chairman
of
the
commission,
on
school
funding.
He
previously
had
come
and
given
us
a
report-
and
he
has
and
they've
done
a
lot
of
work
since
then,
and
so
we're
and
we're
going
to
get
some
additional
input
and
we
also
have
Heidi
Hearts
from
the
Nevada
Department
of
Education
whenever
you're,
when
you
get
set
up
and
you're
ready
to
go,
go
ahead.
I
Good
morning
again,
I'm
guy
Hobbs
I'm
chairing
the
commission
on
school
funding.
I've
had
the
privilege
of
being
with
you
before
I
didn't
realize.
This
was
your
last
meeting,
but
congratulations
on
getting
to
that
point,
and
now
that
we
have
this
set
up.
I
wanted
to
run
through
a
few
slides
with
you
by
way
of
background.
Before
we
start
talking
about
specific
recommendations
just
for
landscape,
you
all
established
the
commission
on
education
funding
in
2019
with
SB
543
and
charged
it
with
certain
roles
and
responsibilities.
I
That's
what
the
commission
has
been
working
on
for
the
last
many
many
months
and
I'll
give
you
some
summary
information
about
where
we
are
at
this
point,
I
think
the
most
important
thing
in
any
initiative
like
this
is
quantifying
the
the
problem
that
you're
trying
to
solve
and
I
know
over
many
many
past
legislative
sessions.
There
have
been
a
lot
of
different
numbers
floating
around
because
of
the
way
those
things
are
calculated.
I
You
know
sometimes
with
State
money,
sometimes
with
just
local
money,
sometimes
with
or
without
federal
grants,
and
it
can
become
rather
confusing
to
try
to
put
your
finger
on
exactly
what
the
the
target
funding
elements
are,
and
we've
been
working
through.
That
and
I
think
it
would
be
beneficial
to
Maybe
cover
some
of
that
ground
before
we
get
to
the
specific
recommendations.
If
that
works.
Okay,
Mr
chairman
yeah,.
I
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
at
the
very
beginning
was
trying
to
Define
what
optimal
funding
meant
and
optimal
funding
can
be
a
bit
elusive
because
differences
of
opinions
may
arise
as
to
what's
optimal
in
one
area
versus
another.
I
So
one
of
the
things
that
that
we
did
was
looked
at
statistics
that
would
depict
what
the
national
average
funding
is
on
a
per
pupil
basis
and
likened
those
to
what
Nevada
is
currently
spending
on
a
per
pupil
basis.
I
So
on
this
particular
chart
the
2020
section,
the
top
half
of
it
are
the
most
recent
numbers
that
have
been
published.
The
national
average
spending
per
pupil,
13
489
dollars,
Nevada's
effort
per
the
same
source
9548,
and
we
were
able
to
validate
that
number
through
a
review
of
the
actual
spending
and
budget
numbers
within
Nevada.
I
Subject
matter
expert
recommendation:
the
state
has
used
APA
in
the
past
as
a
consultant
for
funding
education
at
a
more
appropriate
and
reasonable
level
than
Nevada
had
in
the
past,
and
the
number
that
you
see
for
APA
at
14337
exceeds
that
of
the
national
average
and
that
from
a
statistical
perspective,
is
rather
important
because
one
could,
if
you
were
just
looking
at
the
national
average
alone,
there
would
still
be
some
question
as
to
whether
or
not
since
you
have
variances,
both
above
and
below
averages,
whether
or
not
we
would
be
at
below
or
above
the
average.
I
The
APA
numbers
would
strongly
suggest
that
the
national
average
would
be
on
the
low
end,
but
it
still
serves
as
a
reasonable
metric
on
the
bottom.
Half
of
that
page
you'll
see
2024
values,
and,
although
2024
isn't
here
yet
we
thought
it
important
to
inflate
those
values
to
2024,
because
that
would
be
the
first
fiscal
year
after
your
next
legislative
session,
and
that
would
be
the
commencement
of
the
10-year
funding
period
that
I
mentioned
earlier.
I
I
I'm,
sorry
about
the
the
fact
that
this
is
this
slide
isn't
as
fancy
as
some
of
the
others,
because
the
report
that
we
are
required
to
file
by
November
15th
is
still
a
work
in
progress,
and
so
I
pulled
this
from
the
draft
that
I'm
currently
working
on.
I
But
this
this
chart
represents
statistics
relative
to
the
national
average
and
what
you
can
see
and-
and
these
numbers
are
inflated
from
2024
forward
to
2023
2033
at
two
percent
a
year
and
with
an
assumption
of
a
half
a
percent
per
year
in
growth
in
student
enrollment,
and
the
incremental
shortfall
is
the
amount
of
additional
funding
that
would
need
be
needed
each
year
over
the
course
of
that
10-year
period.
I
I
Now,
if
you
did
all
of
that
in
one
year
in
2024,
it
would
be
as
as
I
might
recall,
about
2.3
billion.
If
you
were
to
do
it
in
one
year,
but
the
plan
was
to
look
at
it
over
a
10-year
period
and
that's
why
we
have
the
incremental
shortfall
shown.
So
those
would
be
the
if
one
was
staying
on
a
linear
trajectory
to
fully
fund
the
identified
Target
at
national
average
by
the
10th
year,
the
incremental
shortfall
would
represent
the
linear
amount
needed
each
year
to
achieve
that
funding
level.
I
The
adjusted
shortfall
number
on
the
right
recognizes
that.
Excuse
me,
you
all
passed
the
mining
tax
bill
and
for
the
first
biennium,
the
mining
tax
was
to
go
into
the
state's
general
fund
beginning
in
fiscal
2024.
I
The
mining
tax
is
to
go
to
the
benefit
of
the
State
education
fund,
and
so
we
have
adjusted
the
the
shortfall
by
80
million
dollars
per
year,
and
you
can
see
that
when
you
get
to
the
10th
year
in
the
aggregate
shortfall
column,
you
have
two
million
seven,
eighty
five
and
in
the
adjusted
shortfall
column
you
have
two
two
billion
rather
705.,
so
that
takes
into
account
the
fact
that
the
mining
tax
would
be
coming
into
the
State
education
fund.
And
again,
this
is
all
based
on
national
average.
I
So
the
the
number
I
would
draw
your
attention
to
is
in
the
middle
column.
Bottom
number
to
achieve
the
APA
recommended
levels
at
the
10th
year
would
require
3.4
billion
dollars
in
additional
funding.
We've
again
adjusted
that,
in
the
right
hand,
column
to
reflect
the
value
of
the
mining
tax
and
it's
still
a
very
challenging
value.
So,
somewhere
between
2
billion
and
a
little
over
three
billion
dollars
by
the
10th
year
to
achieve
either
the
national
average
or
to
achieve
the
APA
recommended
funding
level.
I
Now,
there's
a
another
way.
We
wanted
to
test
these
values
because
again,
they're
they're,
very
large,
challenging
values
and
education
is
undeniably,
if
not
the
most
important
one
of
the
most
important
services
that
the
state
provides.
So
we
realized
that
we
needed
to
do
a
deeper
dive
on
the
range
of
values
and
what
those
might
mean.
I
We
also
are
of
the
full
understanding
as
members
of
the
commission
that
the
legislature
would
look
at
any
amount
of
additional
funding
that
it
would
be
asked
to
provide
and
also
look
out
and
and
want
to
know
what
the
the
probable
return
on
that
investment
might
be
from
year
to
year.
So
another
exercise
that
we
went
through
as
we
charged
the
Nevada
Association
of
school
superintendents
with
the
task
of
identifying.
I
If
you
got
additional
funding,
how
would
you
deploy
that
funding-
and
this
is
this-
is
the
result
of
that
and
again
I
apologize
for
this
not
being
as
fancy
a
chart,
but
this
one
is
relatively
relatively
new,
but
I
think
still
very
important,
Priority
One,
by
the
way
that
you
see
on
the
left
side,
those
are
all
of
the
costs
associated
with
Staffing
compensation,
work
conditions,
the
the
human
capital
part
of
Education
I
know
that
we've
spoken
in
the
past
and
I
know
that
you've
spoken
in
the
past
about
some
of
the
problems
that
education
currently
faces,
with
its
ability
to
fill
authorized
positions
that
are
still
vacant
at
this
time
and
the
fact
that
you're
competing
in
a
market
that
is
not
only
within
Nevada,
it's
within
the
Southwest,
it's
within
the
entire
United
States,
and
it's
extraordinarily
important,
the
Nevada
positions
itself
to
be
able
to
attract,
and
once
they
attract
or
retain
professional
staff,
to
provide
the
actual
instruction
that
goes
on
within
education
and
per
the
the
superintendents
of
the
various
school
districts.
I
This
was
an
identified
amount
that
included
all
of
those
different
facets
and
we'll
go
into
that.
In
deeper
detail,
when
we
issue
the
report,
priority,
two
is
fully
funding
the
weights
and
other
items
like
work
based
learning
and
those
sorts
of
things.
In
the
report
and
through
the
work
of
APA,
we
were
able
to
identify
the
amount
per
student
that
we're
currently
funding
for
things
like
English
language,
learners,
at-risk
students,
special
education
and
gifted
and
talented
students
and,
in
all
cases
other
than
one.
I
There
is
a
significant
gap
between
the
identified
amount
required
to
fully
fund
those
weights
and
the
amount
of
current
funding
and
to
fully
fund
those
weights.
That's
essentially
what
priority
two
is
priority:
three
Deals
more
with
mental
health
aspects
after
school
programs,
those
types
of
things
that
would
position
a
student
for
a
better
outcome
and
when
you
add
all
of
those
together,
you
see
the
totals
on
the
bottom
line
in
2022
dollars
at
3.7
billion
and
in
2033
dollars
at
4.5
billion.
I
The
APA
recommended
values
were
3.4
billion
and
those
recommended
by
the
Nevada
Association
of
school
superintendents
at
4.5
billion
and
I
think
the
main
point
I'd
like
to
make
about
all
of
those
values,
because
you
know
you
essentially
have
this.
The
spread
between
two
and
four
and
a
half
billion
I
think
it
gives
dramatic
context
to
the
national
average
values
and
whether
or
not
the
the
national
average
understates
Nevada's
position
relative
to
its
peers
around
the
country.
I
I
So
the
the
foregoing,
I
mean
everything
I've
talked
about
up
to.
This
point
addresses
the
questions
that
have
been
posed
in
SB,
543
and
ab495
in
2021
that
what
the
funding
targets
are
to
achieve
optimal
funding
under
three
different
metrics,
the
national
average
APA
and
those
numbers
according
to
the
new
ad
Association
of
school
superintendents.
I
The
second
directive
that
was
given
to
the
commission
was
to
identify
how
these
targets
may
be
funded
over
the
ensuing
10
years
and
I.
Think
it's
important
to
once
again
emphasize
the
fact
that
the
legislature
and
I
would
say
this
quite
confidently
in
its
wisdom,
provided
for
a
10-year
funding
plan.
I
If
you
look
at
the
size
and
consider
the
size
of
the
numbers
that
we've
been
talking
about
relative
to
the
size
of
the
the
state's
budget,
it's
obviously
a
very
challenging
thing
to
accomplish
to
try
to
accomplish
it
in
a
single
year
or
a
single
legislative
session.
I
would
say
would
be
next
to
impossible
to
do.
I
But
if
one
were
to
set
forth
a
plan
and
in
particular,
give
some
meaning
and
Credence
to
the
values
that
have
been
identified
as
funding
targets,
I
think
it
serves
you
well
in
terms
of
identifying
what
the
targets
are
over
a
10-year
period
and
it
would
provide
you
the
the
ability,
on
a
biennial
basis
to
assess
levels
of
compliance
with
the
targets
that
have
previously
been
identified.
I
I
But
I
do
enough
of
this
kind
of
work
that
one
thing
that
one
thing
that
is
extraordinarily
important
when
you're
dealing
with
something
like
this
is
fully
establishing
and
accepting
the
challenge
that
you're
dealing
with,
and
in
this
case,
we've
Quantified.
That
for
you,
I,
don't
believe
that
those
numbers
are
terribly
debatable
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
tried
to
show
it
in
a
number
of
different
ways.
I
Again,
to
bring
context
and
validity
to
the
national
average
and
whether
or
not
that
means
something
we
believe
it
certainly
does
by
virtue
of
the
comparison
with
APA
and
with
the
the
Nevada
Association
of
school
superintendents,
which
would
seem
to
suggest
again
that
that's
on
the
low
end
of
the
continuum-
and
we
are
one
other
thing
that
we
did
just
to
provide
you
some
additional
Assurance,
there's
often
times
when
you
bring
up
numbers
about
funding
on
a
per
pupil
basis
and
you
have
different
sources.
I
One
of
the
first
lines
of
questioning
you
go
through
is
well
wait.
A
minute
does
that
one
include
Capital?
Does
that
one
include
Debt
Service?
Does
that
include
Transportation?
Does
it
yeah
so
on
and
so
forth?
One
of
the
things
that
we've
done
here
is
to
try
to
put
them
on
a
pure
Apples
to
Apples
basis.
So
there
is
not
as
much
opportunity
for
that
debate
in
the
future
and
we
spent
a
considerable
amount
of
time
doing
that.
I
So
hopefully
these
present
themselves
as
meaningful
targets
to
you
and
something
to
to
work
for
work
toward
in
the
future.
I
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
the
commission
has
has
been
doing
and,
as
I
mentioned
to
you
earlier,
this
is
still
a
work
in
progress.
Our
due
date
for
the
report
is
November.
15Th
I
still
work
on
this
report
nearly
daily
in
terms
of
trying
to
work
through
the
quantification
of
some
of
the
methods
of
funding
that
will
be
identified
in
the
report
for
your
consideration,
the
commission
will
not
be
identifying
one
method
of
funding.
I
The
commission
will
be
identifying
a
multitude
of
things
that
could
be
looked
at
by
the
legislature
over
time
to
help
make
progress
toward
achieving
these
goals,
because
we
realize
that
there's
a
lot
of
give
and
take
with
these
and
they'll
be.
You
know,
certainly
a
lot
of
different
viewpoints
about.
I
What's
what
is
the
best
way
to
move
forward,
but
I
wanted
to
start
with
an
example
on
the
property
tax
side,
I
bring
up
property
tax
with
a
lot
of
hesitation,
because
after
working
in
Public
Finance
in
Nevada
for
40
years,
I
realize
the
visceral
reaction
that
occurs
when
property
tax
is
discussed.
I
have
been
on
the
receiving
side
of
a
lot
of
that.
I
Property
tax
has
been
in
Nevada
a
traditional
and
Historical
Method
of
funding
education
for
many
many
decades.
It
is
the
primary
source
of
funding
education
for
all
school
state
school
systems
around
the
country.
It
is
part
of
our
DNA,
essentially
in
terms
of
how
education
is
funded
so
to
not
discuss
it
would
be
a
dramatic
oversight
and
some
things
have
happened
over
the
years
to
diminish
the
effectiveness
of
property
tax
as
a
funding
source
for
Education.
I
Now,
when
those
things
happened,
it
certainly
wasn't
with
the
thought
in
mind
that
hey
in
doing
this,
we're
probably
going
to
affect
the
future
ability
of
Education
to
be
fully
funded.
No,
there
were
other
things
that
were
that
were
issues
at
the
time
that
caused
some
of
these
things
to
happen.
But
here
I
wanted
to
give
an
example
of
something
that
I
think
is
a
a
primary
issue.
I
This
shows
you
what
the
if
we
raise
the
property
tax
by
one
cent,
one
penny
per
100
of
assessed
valuation,
which
is
a
rather
modest
increase
on
a
Statewide
basis.
What
the
annual
revenue
would
be
from
just
simply
raising
it
by
one
penny
and
you
can
see
by
2033
that
would
raise
a
modest
compared
to
the
numbers
that
we're
looking
at
for
Education
27
million
dollars.
I
We
know
why
the
abatements
are
in
place
they're
in
place
to
restrict
the
amount
of
growth
in
property
tax
bills
from
year
to
year,
and
that
in
and
of
itself
is
is
seems
to
be
a
very
good
thing,
but
does
it
have
another
effect?
Yes,
it
does
have
another
effect.
It
mutes
the
ability
to
actually
generate
the
revenue
that
would
otherwise
be
taxable.
I
This
is
another
way
of
looking
at
it:
inflation
adjusted
per
capita
property
tax
revenue,
it's
a
heck
of
a
title
that,
but
this
is
a
terribly
meaningful
statistic.
I
Inflation-Adjusted
means
it's
in
current
dollars
all
the
way
across
so
they're
they're,
comparable
from
year
to
year,
and
it's
done
on
a
per
capita
basis
to
take
into
account
growth
and
I've,
always
felt
in
many
many
years
of
working
in
public
finance.
That
inflation-adjusted
per
capita
is
an
extraordinarily
valuable
measure
to
look
at.
I
I
We
are
the
only
state
and
I
suppose
this
is
something
to
be
proud
of
we're
the
only
state
in
the
country
that
depreciates
assessed
valuation
and
essentially
what
that
means.
Let
me
back
up
for
a
moment
when
we
assess
a
piece
of
property
for
taxation.
We
look
at
the
full
cash
value
of
the
land
fair
enough,
but
for
the
improvements
that
sit
on
that
land,
we
look
at
the
replacement
value
of
those
improvements.
I
Not
the
market
value
number
one
number
two:
we
take
those
replacement
values
and
we
depreciate
them
by
one
and
a
half
percent
a
year
down
to
a
residual
of
25
of
replacement
value.
So
if
a
property
and
that's
what
this
is
intended
to
show
on
the
far
right
side
at
the
50th
year
of
the
Aging
of
the
improvements,
only
25
percent
of
the
replacement
value
of
the
improvements
is,
is
added
to
the
land
value.
I
So
when
you
contrast
that
with
market
value,
there's
an
extraordinary
spread
between
market
value
and
taxable
and
assessed
value,
now
that
there
was
probably
good
intentions
behind
depreciation
when
it
was
first
put
into
play,
I
think
some
of
the
thinking
all
of
those
years
ago
was
that
well
it's
it's
it's
a
good
thing
for
longer-term
residents
that
are
within
their
property
to
accrue
a
little
bit
of
a
break
or
a
governor
on
their
growth
in
property
taxes,
but
people
don't
stay
in
the
same
homes
for
50
years.
I
Generally
speaking,
it's
also
a
very
complicated
thing
to
administer,
because
when
you
think
about
properties,
like
commercial
properties,
say
along
the
strip,
for
example,
there
are
parts
of
the
building
that
may
be
50
years
old.
There
are
parts
of
the
building
that
may
be
40
years
old.
There
are
parts
of
the
building
that
may
be
30
years
old
and
parts
that
are
brand
new.
I
It's
a
it's
a
rather
convoluted
thing
to
do
and
again
we're
the
only
ones
that
believe
it's
wise
to
do
this,
but
a
note
to
make
about
I
think
I
have
another
one
that
shows
here
a
bit
more
of
that
spread.
I
So
if
you
started
in
year
one
with
a
a
home
that
had
or
a
property
that
had
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
worth
of
replaced
value
replacement
value
improvements
on
it
over
over
time,
the
the
value
of
that
you
would
think
would
grow
and
on
the
bottom
line,
we're
showing
what
the
growth
of
that
would
be
with
no
depreciation
so
by
year.
50
that
would
be
worth
438
000
yet
would
be
taxed
at
one
hundred
and
ten
thousand
and
again
this
isn't
necessarily
to
say
that
there
were
bad
intentions.
I
I,
don't
believe
there
were
I
believe
they
were
very
good.
But
what
has
that
led
to
it's
led
to
an
extraordinarily
large
gap
between
taxable
value
and
market
value
for
whatever
that
may
be
worth
and
I.
Think
that
confuses
a
lot
of
people.
I
know
I
get
a
lot
of
questions
every
year
from
friends
of
mine
that
know
that
I
somehow
enjoy
looking
at
these
things
and
I
got
a
number
of
them
in
the
past,
oh
say
three
or
four
months.
I
When
the
issue
of
the
three
and
eight
percent
abatement
came
up
came
up,
you
know
what's
going
on
with
this,
you
know
why.
Why
is
this
one
at
three
percent
one
a
day
and
you
know
I
tried
to
explain
it
as
simply
as
possible
and
of
course,
that's
an
impossible
thing
to
do
three
percent
for
owner
occupied.
That's
the
way
that
one
works,
anything
that
isn't
an
owner
occupied
residential
unit
is
eight
percent.
I
That's
the
simplest
I've
been
able
to
describe
that
and
that's
the
that's,
the
sum
and
substance
of
the
abatements,
but
one
of
the
reasons
I
bring
both
of
these
up
to
you
is.
You
know
we
looked
at
depreciation
and
one
of
the
questions
that
we
asked
ourselves.
If
we
were
to
do
something
to
modify
depreciation,
would
we
actually
be
able
to
gain
revenue
from
doing
that,
and
the
answer
is
only
modestly
so
which
defies
Logic.
The
reason
why
it's
only
modestly
so
so
is
because
of
the
abatements.
I
You
know
depreciation's
been
with
us
for
a
long
time.
I,
don't
believe
that
the
reasons
that
would
that
it
was
originally
put
in
place
are
valid
anymore.
Abatements
have
only
been
with
us
for
the
last
say,
15
or
so
years.
That's
a
relatively
new
thing.
While
it
has
had
some
benefit
on
one
side,
it
certainly
created
some
opportunity,
cost
or
loss
on
the
other
side
and
there's
an
opportunity
to
reevaluate
the
fiscal
system
in
over
a
period
of
time,
modernize
it
and
bring
it
up.
I
To
date,
and
by
doing
so,
you
may
be
able
to
create
Revenue
opportunities
to
help
fund
education
as
well,
and
that's
really
the
rationale,
and
even
if
even
if
we
weren't
looking
at
this
as
a
as
an
education
funding
issue,
I
would
sincerely
recommend
that
property
tax
be
looked
at
depreciation
assessment
methodology,
the
35
percent
taxable
to
assessed
ratio
of
the
abatements.
All
of
those
things
be
reviewed
for
updating
and
modernization
and
to
make
them
more
efficient
and
effective
on
their
own
face
now.
I
The
second
one
that
is
a
traditional
source
of
funding
education
in
the
state
of
Nevada
is
sales
tax.
The
local
school
support
tax
is
one
component
of
sales
tax
that
is
that
goes
directly
to
this
now
will
go
directly
to
the
State
education
fund
and
also
there's
two
percent
that
goes
directly
to
the
state's
general
fund.
I
What
are
the
reasons
for
that?
Our
constitution
defines
taxable
a
taxable
sale
as
something
that's
sold
at
retail
and
is
tangible,
that's
in
the
Constitution.
So
if
you
think
about
Commerce
that
takes
place,
that
involves
something:
that's
not
a
tangible
item
or
sold
at
retail.
There
is
no
sales
tax
applied
to
that.
I
You
know
the
more
widely
known
ones
are.
You
know,
groceries
purchased
at
a
grocery
store.
You
know
when
you
fill
up
your
gas
tank,
that's
fuel
tax,
not
sales,
tax
prescriptions
and
over
time
a
couple
of
things
have
happened.
You
know
one
through
technology,
more
items
have
become
intangible
over
the
years
we
used
to
be
two-thirds,
tangible,
one-third,
intangible,
say
50
years
ago.
I
It's
reversed
today,
so
that
part
technology
has
actually
diminished
this
base
to
an
extent
and
on
the
other
side
we
have
explicit
exemptions
that
have
either
been
put
into
place
directly
by
the
legislature
and
again
for
good
reason.
In
many
of
those
cases
and
those
that
have
been
voted
on,
you
might
recall.
I
Just
a
few
years
ago
there
were
a
couple
of
other
items
added
to
the
explicit
exemption
list
and
over
time,
when
you
do
that,
the
tendency
is
to
make
your
base
more
and
more
narrow
and
as
that
base
gets
more
narrow
over
time.
A
couple
of
things
happen
and
this
one
became
very,
very
apparent,
as
we
were
charting
the
monthly
numbers
during
coven,
for
example,
in
Clark
County,
to
use
Clark
County
as
an
example.
I
I
That
was
a
very
Stark
and
dramatic
example
of
how
that
can
work
when
you
have
such
a
narrow
base
and
are
so
heavily
Reliant
upon
certain
areas
of
trade
to
perform
well
year
in
and
year
out
in
the
northern
part
of
the
state,
the
number
one
producer
of
sales
tax
revenues,
the
sale
of
Motor
Vehicles
and
that
had
an
in
sort
of
a
weird
inverse
effect
during
covid
when
people
were
buying
cars
like
crazy,
which
again
you
know
at
the
beginning
of
all
of
this,
it
defied
logic
and
then
part
of
it
made
sense
to
us.
I
The
automotive
industry
was
offering
zero
percent
interest
for
84
months,
and
the
federal
government
was
providing
a
stimulus
that
in
many
cases,
became
a
down
payment
on
a
vehicle.
But
you
cannot.
The
economies
are
not
the
same
from
County
to
County
and
there
is
heavy
Reliance
on
certain
areas
of
trade
performing
well
from
year
to
year.
The
narrow
your
bases,
the
more
subject
you
are
to
volatility
if
any
of
those
areas
of
trade
run
into
a
problem,
so
this
chart
was
to
give
you
an
example,
and
this
is
something
the
commission
also
looked
at.
I
What
are
some
things
that
are
taxable
under
sales
and
use
tax
in
other
states
that
we
do
not
tax
in
Nevada,
and
we
just
thought
it
would
be
interesting
to
look
at
what
some
of
those
things
are,
and
you
can
see
that,
for
example,
up
at
the
top,
you
have
things
like
cellular
telephone
services.
43
of
the
other
states
applies
sales
and
use
tax
to
that.
Nevada
does
not
now
that
isn't
to
say
that
Nevada
doesn't
assess
anything
against
cellular
telephone
services
it.
I
Essentially,
it
assesses
franchise
fees
in
many
cases,
for
some
of
these
items,
but
again
it
as
you
work
your
way
down
this
list.
Some
of
these
are
very
large
areas
of
trade
that
are
either
implicitly
or
explicitly
Exempted
in
Nevada,
and
that
is
something
that
can
help
initiate
a
discussion
of
opportunity
to
broaden
the
base.
I
It's
important
for
me
to
say
one
other
thing
that
is
horrifically
boring,
I
suppose,
but
because
of
the
way
that
our
constitution
is
written,
if
we
were
to
tax
items
that
are
intangible
under
the
sales
and
use
tax,
that
would
probably
be
an
appropriate
and
contrary
to
the
way
the
Constitution
is
drafted.
I
I
thought
we
would
do
the
same
thing
with
inflation-adjusted
per
capita
taxable
sales,
and
you
can
see
how
that's
performed
over
time,
which
you
know
again
speaks
I.
Think
to
the
volatility
discussion.
We
were
having
a
moment
ago
after
the
Great
Recession
toward
the
the
peak
that
you
see
in
the
middle
was
followed
by
the
Great
Recession,
and
you
see
what
happened
to
taxable
sales.
I
Now
I
put
this
chart
in
there,
and
this
is
way
too
busy
to
go
over
in
a
meeting
like
this.
But
one
of
the
things
that
we
then
decided
to
evaluate
is
what
are
some
of
these
other
areas
of
trade
that
we
are
not
currently
assessing
with
a
a
sales
type
excise
tax?
How
much
are
how
much
taxable
sales
would
they
possibly
produce,
and
what
would
the
revenue
yield
be
if
we
applied
a
rate
of,
and
you
can
see
on
the
left
on
the
left
side,
the
vertical
axis?
I
We
have
it
in
tenths
of
a
percent
all
the
way
up
to
six
point:
eight
five
percent,
which
is
the
state
base
rate,
that's
common
to
all
counties
in
the
state
and
just
to
give
you
an
example
that
10
billion
dollars
of
additional
area
of
trade.
If
one
assessed
6.85
percent
against
it,
it
would
produce
685
million
dollars.
I
It
has
potent
capability
to
generate
additional
Revenue,
there's
no
question
about
it
and
it
doesn't
have
to
just
simply
be
viewed
on
the
rate
site.
I
I
tend
to
believe
and
I've
believed
for
20
or
30
years
that
the
base
side
needs
equal
attention
as
the
rate
side,
and
sometimes
it's
easier
to
look
at
the
base
side
from
a
standpoint
of
equity
and
what
I
mean
by
Equity
is
you
have
of
our
overall
Commerce
in
the
state?
I
I
I
And
so
we
pulled
out
a
few
to
take
a
look
at
just
to
give
give
a
sense
of
order
of
magnitude,
of
how
much
activity
occurs
each
year
in
different
areas
of
trade
and
I
want
to
focus
on
a
couple
of
these
because
they're
rather
simple,
and
they
they
match
up
to
that
Matrix
that
we
looked
at
a
moment
ago.
I
If
you
picked
on
the
right
side,
number
13
personal
care
generates
5.8
billion
dollars
a
year
in
in
economic
activity,
and
one
other
reason
for
maybe
circling
personal
care
to
talk
about
for
a
moment
is
when
you're
talking
about
things
like
sales
tax.
The
last
thing
you
want
to
do
is
ever
talk
about
applying
it
to
areas
that
are
necessities
of
life.
I
If
it
applies
to
necessities
of
life,
it
is
highly
regressive.
If
it's
too
discretionary
items,
it's
certainly
less
so
regressive.
The
other
one
I
would
look
at
is
item
number
nine
Recreation
at
4.2
billion.
The
nice
thing
about
those
two
together
is,
if
you
add
them
together,
they
equal
10
billion
dollars
in
economic
activity
each
year,
both
would
appear
to
be
more
discretionary
than
not
and
again
these
are
just
examples.
This
is
not
a
recommendation.
I
It's
just
to
illustrate
to
you
whether
or
not
something
like
this
is
possible,
because
that's
one
of
the
first
things
we
wanted
to
test
is
whether
it's
possible
before
we
then
in
turn
made
any
recommendations
to
to
you
all
so
those
two
together
10
billion
dollars.
You
can
go
back
to
that
Matrix
and
see
if
you
applied
a
rate
against
it.
I
I
I
One
of
the
first
recommendations
we
would
make
to
the
legislature
through
your
committee,
the
commission,
on
school
funding,
We
Believe,
has
served
a
reasonably
valuable
purpose
to
the
legislature.
At
least.
We
would
hope
so,
both
in
validating
and
working
through
the
implementation
issues
associated
with
the
pupil-centered
funding
plan,
which
have
been
accomplished,
and
that
is
now
in
place,
and
we
believe
that
that
will
serve
Nevada
very
well,
but
in
also
identifying
funding.
I
We
believe
that
maintaining
the
pupil-centered
funding
plan
model
is
of
an
exceptional
importance
going
forward
and
believe
that
the
commission
on
school
funding-
and
this
is
actually
our
second
recommendation-
jointly-
maintain
the
pupil-centered
funding
plan
model
with
the
Nevada
Department
of
Education
and
continue
to
provide
overtime
recommendations
for
improvement
to
the
implementation
of
the
people-centered
funding
plan.
That's
not
something
that
that
gets
maintained
for
once
and
for
all
in
in
one
interim.
I
It's
something
that
constantly
has
to
be
reviewed
to
make
sure
it's
performing
well.
So
our
first
two
recommendations
would
be
that
you
continue
the
commission
on
school
funding,
hopefully
with
appropriate
resources
to
perform
its
work
and
that
the
people-centered
funding
plan
model
be
jointly
maintained
by
the
Nevada
Department
of
Education
and
the
commission
on
school
funding.
I
Another
thing
that
the
commission
on
school
funding
could
provide
assistance
to
the
legislature
with
would
be
the
ongoing
implementation
of
a
funding
plan
to
achieve
the
target
values
that
we've
identified.
We
are
certainly
ready,
willing
and
able
not
that
I
will
be
there
for
10
years
of
this,
but
ready
willing
and
able
to
provide
that
assistance
and
support
to
the
legislature
wherever
it
may
be
requested
or
needed.
I
A
third
recommendation
is
one
that
we've
already
spoken
a
bit
about
that
the
values
that
have
been
identified
as
the
target
values.
We
we
strongly
believe
that
the
legislature
in
some
form
or
fashion,
should
adopt
except
I'm,
not
sure
what
the
right
word
is
acknowledge
that
these
values
are
real
and
that
they
should
be
continued
to
be
used
as
a
measuring
stick
for
progress
toward
the
funding
goals
over
the
10-year
period,
again
pointing
back
to
many
many
past
legislative
sessions
where
there
were
discussions
about
well,
what
really
is
the
funding
need?
I
What
really
is
the
funding?
Target
one
can
get
lost
in
arguing
about
the
numbers
that
form
up
the
the
target
as
much
as
they
can
in
devising
a
solution
for
it,
and
we
believe
that
we
have
work
through
those
numbers
and
provided
you
with
something
that
is
reliable,
fair
and
reasonable.
As
far
as
a
measurement
of
what
the
funding
Target
should
be.
I
Now
we
have
an
included
capital
in
this,
because
capitals
generally
presumed
for
schools
to
be
more
of
a
local
issue
than
it
is
a
state
issue
and
I
can
fully
respect
that.
However,
you
have
a
lot
of
school.
You
have
a
lot
of
school
districts
that
are
within
counties
that
are
at
the
3.66
property
tax
cap
and
have
virtually
no
room
to
even
go
out
with
a
ballot
question
to
ask
the
voters
if
they
would
wish
to
do
something
to
improve
capital
and
I've
talked
to
enough
of
you
know.
I
That's
one
of
the
things
over
the
last
three
years
is
I've,
had
an
opportunity
to
meet
people
from
these
other
school
districts
and
talk
to
them
about
things
like
facility
challenges
and
Technology
challenges
and
Rolling,
Stock
and
all
those
kinds
of
things,
and
they
are
not
all
in
the
the
same
type
of
shape.
That
I
think
we
would
like
them
to
be,
and
so
that's
something
that
we
would
like
to
see.
I
The
legislature
also
address
I've
thought
of
a
few
things
that
you
know
perhaps
might
be
worth
consideration
there,
like
the
state,
started
a
state
infrastructure
bank
and
funded
it
for
the
first
time
through
the
treasurer's
office
this
past
year,
the
state
infrastructure
Bank
may
offer
an
opportunity
to
do
lower
cost
borrowing,
for
example,
or
a
state
revolving
fund,
just
something
else
that
needs
to
be
addressed
on
a
going
forward
basis,
part
and
parcel
to
recommending
additional
funding
is-
and
this
would
be
a
fifth
recommendation
that
the
legislature
and
the
commission
on
school
funding
would
certainly
be
happy
to
assist
in
any
regard
with
this
recommendation,
but
that
the
legislature
create
performance
metrics
to
gauge
the
return
on
investment
for
continuing
investment
in
education.
I
If
I
were
in
your
position,
this
is
something
that
would
be
extraordinarily
important
to
me
that,
as
we're
developing
new
funding
sources
to
apply
to
education,
I
certainly
would
want
to
be
sure
that
they're
being
applied
to
their
highest
and
best
use
and
providing
a
return
over
time
and
I
suppose
that
this
has
been
talked
about
as
the
accountability
issue
in
past
years.
But
the
notion
of
having
performance
metrics
on
both
sides,
both
the
funding
side
and
the
application
Side
by
each
of
the
school
districts
I
believe,
should
be
hand
in
hand.
I
Number
six
and
I
think
this
was
touched
on
a
little
bit
earlier
became
very
apparent
to
us
that
you
know
one
of
the
more
challenging
areas
these
days
in
funding
education
is
dealing
with
the
human
capital
side
of
Education.
We
have
a
number
of
vacancies,
I
believe
well
over
a
thousand
in
Clark
County
alone
and
probably
closer
to
2500
or
maybe
3
000
in
the
state
that
are
authorized
to
be
filled,
but
were
unable
to
fill
them
because
we
can't
attract
enough
teachers
and
other
professionals
to
fill
those
positions.
I
That's
a
problem
going
forward,
because,
even
if
the
funding
were
there,
if
you're
unable
to
attract
the
human
capital
to
provide
the
service,
I,
don't
know
that
you've
gained
very
much.
And
so
we
believe
that
further
study
should
be
done
on
both
the
I
guess.
A
way
of
referring
to
would
be
the
educator
pipeline
in
the
state
of
Nevada.
I
Are
we
producing
enough
units
of
professional
Educators
to
fulfill
the
need
that
we
have
each
year
I
believe
the
answer
to
that
is
no,
if
we're
not
doing
that
or
have
we
positioned
ourselves
from
a
compensation
standpoint
to
be
able
to
attract
and
compete
within
the
region
and
nationally
and
I
believe
the
answer
would
suggest
that
we're
not
at
that
point
yet.
I
So
we
believe
that's
an
area
that
requires
additional
study
and,
of
course,
as
as
I
touched
on
with
you,
a
strong
recommendation
would
be
to
consider
modernization
and
updating
of
the
sales
and
property
tax
systems
in
the
state
of
Nevada
as
traditional
and
historic
funding.
Sources
for
Education
both
are
in
need
of
attention
just
from
a
fiscal
policy
perspective,
but
both
offer
offer
a
remarkable
opportunity
to
raise
additional
revenues
over
time.
I
We
we
are
looking
at
abatements
depreciation,
looking
at
phasing
them
out
readjusting
them
and
what
the
value
of
that
might
be
from
a
revenue
production
standpoint
over
time.
So
our
report
will
contain
a
number
of
those
for
you
to
review.
It
will
contain
a
number
of
other
areas
that
we're
also
exploring
you
know.
I
Is
there
a
possibility
that
you
could
take
something
like
the
the
school
operating
rate,
which
is
75
cents
of
the
overall
combined
property
tax
rate
and
exempt
that
from
abatement
over
time
to
allow
it
to
generate
additional
Revenue,
as
it
was
intended
to
do
from
the
very
beginning?
I
So
there
are
probably
11
different
topics
that
I
expect.
We
will
touch
on
under
the
property
tax
category
and
at
least
three
under
the
sales
tax
category
that
have
to
do
more
with
the
base
than
with
rate
much
as
I've
spoken
with
you
today.
About
of
the
eighth
recommendation.
Is
it's
less
a
recommendation
than
it
is
an
acknowledgment
in
SB
543
again
in
the
legislature's
wisdom,
they
included
something
that
recognized
that
the
economic
Forum
each
year
will
estimate
the
amount
of
Revenue
that
will
be
available
for
the
subsequent
biennium
you'll.
I
You
all
are
very
familiar
with
that
and
they'll
be
doing
that
at
the
end
of
this
calendar
year,
so
that
it's
not
something
that
we
could
necessarily
include
in
a
report
that's
going
to
be
filed
in
you
know
five
weeks
because
it
hasn't
happened
yet,
but
if
the
economic
Forum
projects
an
increase
in
revenues,
that's
over
a
certain
level,
a
commensurate
increase
in
education
funding
per
SB
543
is
supposed
to
take
place
unless
it's
found
not
to
be
practicable,
I
believe
that's
the
word.
I
That's
used
in
SB
543,
so
we're
just
urging
that
once
the
economic
Forum
makes
its
recommendations
that
this
part
of
SB
543,
hopefully
will
found
be
found
to
be
practicable
and
much
like
the
mining
tax.
That
would
adjust
the
values
that
you
saw
in
those
earlier
tables
in
a
downward
way,
and
we
think
that
would
also
be
very
positive
to
do.
I
These
are
topics
I
could
literally
talk
about,
like
do
you
have
until
like
7,
30
or
8
o'clock
tonight,
because
we've
spent
that
much
time
and
and
detail
on
them,
but
I
hope
I've,
given
you
enough
of
a
summary
to
give
you
a
a
preview
without
without
completely
wrecking
the
impact
of
the
final
report,
right
of
what
the
final
report
will
include
by
way
of
recommendations
and
the
justification.
More
importantly,
the
justification
for
those
recommendations
and
with
that
Mr
chair
I'd
be
happy
to
take
any
questions
or
comments
or
anything
else.
A
All
right,
thank
you
very
much.
I
want
to
thank
you.
You
know
when
we
talk
about
all
of
these
different
topics,
even
on
the
revenue
and
I've
been
part
of
the
revenue
committee,
and
this
has
a
lot
of
information
that
we
that
we
talk
about,
but
it's
kind
of
been
it's
concise.
A
So
it's
it's
a
really
good
way
to
look
at
at
how
we
how
some
of
these
impact
so
I,
really
appreciate
the
way
you
put
that
together,
I
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you've
done
with
that
do
we
have
questions
yeah,
assemblywoman
or
vice
chair
Bill,
Barry,
Axelrod,.
E
Thank
you
Mr
chair
and
thank
you
Mr
Hobbs,
so
much
for
being
here.
That
was
absolutely
fascinating
and
I
I
have
a
million
questions,
but
I'm
I'm
gonna
just
take
something
right
off
off
the
tops.
Just
so
I
can
wrap
my
head
around
this
one
of
your
last
slides
that
talks
about
the
service
related
categories
in
total
sales,
and
you
pulled
out
two
things:
personal
care
and
Recreation
and
I
was
just
wondering
you
said
the
term
I
forgot
what
how
you
said
it
about
something
like
life
needed.
E
I
I
guy
Hobbs
once
again,
I
appreciate
the
the
question,
because
nothing
is
as
simple
as
what
I
tried
to
make
it
sound
today.
Within
the
area
of
personal
care,
are
probably
hundreds
of
individual
items
and
some
you
would
find
to
be
non-starters.
For
example,
one
one
of
the
areas
under
Personal
Care
is
death
related
services.
I
That's
not
one
that
that
anybody
would
recommend
that
you
change
the
taxability
of
anything.
That's
Medical
would
fall
into
that
category,
something
that
is
that
you
do
by
choice,
not
because
of
necessity
of
life,
or
you
know
it's
needed
for
a
child
or
it's
you
know
needed
to
maintain
a
reasonable
quality
of
life
should
be
included
in
anything
that
where
there
may
be
an
additional
trans
transaction
oriented
excise
tax
applied
to
it.
Because,
again,
that
creates
very
real
arguments
of
regressivity
and
that's
something
we
would
not
want
to
do.
I
I
I
realize
that
that
we
have
members
that
may
be
more
sensitive
to
things
like
this,
but
the
number
of
times
one
may
choose
to
go
to
get
a
massage
or
hair
appointments
or
things
along
those
lines
are
more
a
matter
of
discretion
than
they
are
necessity
and
clearly,
if
we
were
going
to
look
at
something
like
personal
care,
we
would
have
to
go
through
it
on
a
granular
basis
to
make
sure
there
was
comfort
with
it
and
the
same
thing
on
the
recreation
side
that
one
may
be
more
apparent
than
most
of
the
things
that
are
done
under
a
recreation
category,
and
these
are
just
two
examples.
I
One
of
the
other
examples
I
can
give
you
I
didn't
really
speak
a
lot
about
it,
but
you
might
remember
from
that
one
chart.
We
had
earlier
of
things
that
are
not
taxed
in
Nevada
that
are
taxed
elsewhere.
There's
a
number
of
those
that
have
the
word
digital
in
front
of
them
right
and
I
think
this
is
an
important
distinction
to
make
it's
one
of
the
best
examples
we
can
give
as
to
why
it.
This
needs
to
be
looked
at
from
a
tax
policy
perspective
as
much
as
it
does
from
a
revenue
generating
perspective.
I
I
guess
they're
the
old
days
now,
but
you
used
to
go
to
some
place
like
Barnes
and
Noble
to
buy
a
book
if
those
even
exist
anymore.
Today
you
download
it.
When
you
bought
the
book
at
Barnes
and
Noble,
you
paid
a
sales
tax
when
you
download
it,
you
do
not
it's
the
same
item
right
same
thing
would
be
true
with
something
like
going
to
a
record
store
if
any
of
those
exist
anymore
and
buying
a
CD
taxable
downloading
it
non-taxable
and
you
can
go
on
and
on
with
examples
like
that.
I
What
that
creates
is
that's
undermining
your
base
right,
because
you
have
items
that
were
taxable
that
by
no
action
on
your
part
or
anybody
else's
part
are
now
non-taxable
because
they're
intangible,
that's
something
we
refer
to
as
economic
leakage
and
by
plugging
that
leakage
you
would
generate
additional
Revenue
and
again,
those
are
just
some
examples
and
I
realize
in
my
my
very
very
dear
friend,
Carol
Velardo,
who
I
miss
tremendously,
would
say
these
words
if
she
were
sitting
right
here.
The
devil
is
in
the
details.
I
A
I
still
have
900
or
999
000
questions;
okay,
yes,
other
Senator,
Don,
Dara,
Loop,.
B
Thank
you,
I
kind
of
have
a
two-parter
back
to
what
Vice
chair
asked
what's
under
education,
what
would
be
some
of
the
things
in
that
type
of
a
category.
B
That
just
because
we're
an
education
committee,
I
thought
I'd
ask
that
and
then
the
second
thing
is
under
recommendations.
The
eight
recommendations
that
you
gave
are
those
is
that
anywhere
in
print
or
can
we
get
that
I
I
took
what
I
think
is
copious
notes,
but
I
always
worry
about
the.
B
A
And
just
one
real,
quick
clarification
for
me
when
you
mentioned
in
the
when
you
were
giving
us
the
pre-information
eat
on
the
property
tax,
let's
see
if
I
can
find
my
notes.
A
Yeah
I,
don't
know
what
pages
is
the
one
that
says:
property
taxes
in
Nevada
depreciation
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
when,
when
it
says
on
their
year
zero
year,
50
that
that's
the
the
date
that
it
was
constructed
as
opposed
to
how
long
somebody,
because
they
could
have
had
multiple
owners
it
was
built.
You
know
whenever
is
that
correct.
I
Mr,
chairman
guy
Hobbs,
once
again,
that's
absolutely
correct.
The
depreciation
stays
with
the
property.
It
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
ownership.
So
you
know
year.
Zero
is
probably
more
like
really
year,
one
and
in
the
very
first
year
it's
the
full
cost
of
replacement
value,
and
then
it
starts
to
be
depreciated
for
50
years.
Great.
Thank.
I
I
I,
just
also
I
I,
failed
to
acknowledge
that
one
of
our
members
of
the
commission
on
school
funding
is
is
with
us
today
in
the
audience
and
we're
we're
I
know
that
it
was
your
loss.
It
was
our
gain
to
have
her
join
the
commission
on
school
funding,
but
I
certainly
wanted
to
acknowledge
Senator
Woodhouse.
I
A
Thank
you
very
much.
So
if
we
have,
we
have
enough
further
questions.
That's
I
think
what
I
want
to
do,
because
there
were
some
recommendations
made
and
we
might
want
to
make
some
recommendations,
but
we
need
to
give
up
our
staff
just
a
couple
of
minutes
to
think
about
that.
I
want
to
take
a.
A
Okay,
let's
take
a
10
minute
break
because
we
only
have
these
two
items
today
and
if
we're
gonna,
if
we
do
have
some
recommendations
that
we
would
like
to
make,
we
have
to
do
that
at
this
point
in
in
the
meeting.
So
with
that,
we
will
be
on
a
10
minute
break.
We
are
in
recess.
A
Okay,
we
are
back
from
Recess,
we'll
continue.
So
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
I'll,
because
we
may
there
were
some
recommendations
that
they
had
talked
about.
That
chair
Hobbs
talked
about
that
I
wanted
to
make
sure
our
staff
understood
what
those
were
and
then
and
had
legal
look
in
case.
We
want
to
make
some
recommendations
so
I'm
going
to
have
MS,
Durham
kind
of
recap.
What
we
heard
and
then
I'll
have
the
chair
hops
just
make
sure
that
that's
accurate
and
then
I'm
going
to
have
legal
talk
about
some
issues
there.
B
Thank
you,
Mr
chair,
Jen,
Sturm
committee
policy,
analyst
as
nonpartisan
staff.
We
neither
advocate
for
or
against
any
measure,
so
the
recommendations
proposed
by
chair
Hobbs
included
one.
The
commission
on
school
funding
recommends
that
the
legislature
extend
the
life
of
the
commission
to
continue
its
work
in
improving
the
implementation
of
the
pupil-centered
funding
plan
or
pcfp,
and
assisting
with
the
implementation
of
a
funding
strategy
to
meet
the
objectives
set
forth
in
SB
543.
B
The
commission
further
recommends
the
commission
to
be
provided
with
sufficient
resources
to
support
its
mission
number
two
related
to
the
first
recommendation.
The
commission
also
recommends
that
responsibility
for
the
maintenance
of
the
model
that
drives
pcfp
be
vested
jointly
with
the
commission
and
the
Nevada
Nevada's
Department
of
Education.
Three.
The
commission
on
school
funding
recommends
that
the
legislature
adopt
the
target
values
for
both
achievement
of
the
national
average
per
people.
Spending
and
recommended
level
of
per
pupil
spending
described
in
the
in
the
report
is
the
standards
that
should
be
achieved
by
the
2032-33
biennium.
B
Number
four:
the
commission
on
school
funding
recommends
that
the
legislature
create
a
pathway
for
smaller
school
districts
to
acquire
capital
and
engage
in
building
Improvement
and
modernization
programs
that
are
otherwise
unavailable
to
these
districts.
This
may
take
the
form
of
the
creation
of
a
revolving
fund
to
extend
loans
to
smaller
districts,
additional
funding
to
the
state
infrastructure
bank,
for
the
expansion
of
lending
program
or
the
use
of
a
state
Bond
Bank
number
five.
The
commission
recommends
that
the
legislature
direct
the
creation
of
performance
metrics
to
assess
the
impact
of
enhanced
investment
in
K-12
education.
B
These
Master,
these
metrics
would
provide
a
foundation
for
measuring
the
return
on
added
investment,
as
envisioned
by
SB
543
AB
495
and
is
recommended
in
the
report.
Any
increased
investment
should
be
accompanied
by
a
system
of
accountability
for
the
effective
use
of
the
additional
investment
number
six.
The
commission
recommends
the
legislature
study
the
imbalance
between
number
of
professional
Educators
matriculating
from
institutions
of
higher
education
in
the
state
and
the
number
of
new
units
of
professional
educator,
Educators
demanded
each
year
by
school
districts
in
the
state.
B
This
would
be
coupled
with
a
classification
and
compensation
review
for
professional
Educators
and
support
Personnel
to
determine
whether
insufficient
compensation
is
contributing
to
the
difficulty
in
attracting
and
retaining
these
positions.
This
would
provide
additional
foundation
for
determining
the
cost
association
with
the
achievement
of
the
state's
class
size
mandates
over
the
10-year
funding.
Horizon
number
seven.
B
The
commission
recommends
the
legislature
consider
modernization
of
both
the
Nevada
sales
and
use
tax
and
Nevada
property
tax
systems
as
the
primary
and
traditional
funding
sources
for
State
services
and
specifically
for
the
funding
of
K-12
education
and
since
significant
capacity
exists
within
both
of
these
systems
of
Taxation.
It
is
further
recommended
that
the
roster
of
recommendations
in
this
report,
specifically
those
enumerated
in
the
property
tax
and
sales
tax
sections,
be
considered
as
a
menu
of
funding
options
to
achieve
the
identified
funding
needs
by
fiscal
year.
B
2033
these
recommendations
meet
them
and
they
given
to
the
commission
on
school
funding
to
identify
methods
of
funding,
while
also
providing
legislature
with
a
series
of
choices
that
can
be
used
in
combination
to
achieve
the
desired
results
and
finally
number
eight.
The
commission
recommends
that,
upon
the
release
of
the
economic
Forum
estimates,
the
state
general
fund
Appropriations
to
education
be
increased
in
a
matter
consistent
with
the
formula
and
Direction
established
in
SB
543
Mr,
chair.
A
Mr
Hobbs,
would
you
just
confirm
that
that
sounds
I
mean
that's?
Basically,
these
are
and
I
know
you
guys
are
still
working
on
these
to
finalize
them.
But
since
this
is
our
last
meeting,
if
we
want,
if
we
as
a
commission,
a
committee
want
to
make
recommendations,
I
want
to
at
least
have
some
of
these
out
there,
so
that
we
can
talk
about
them.
I
Those
are
very
consistent
with
the
recommendations
that
will
be
included
in
the
final
report.
Unfortunately,
as
I
mentioned
before,
that
final
report
hasn't
been
fully
prepared
and
as
Council
read
through
that
information
number
seven
referred
to
a
series
of
sub-recommendations
regarding
property
and
sales
tax.
Those
are
still
in
development.
At
this
point,
okay,.
A
All
right
so
stay
there
for
just
a
second
I'm
going
to
have
Mr
Killian.
Can
you
discuss
these
issues
if
there's
any
legal
issues
that
we
need
to
be
aware
of
as
we?
If
we
make
a
decision
to
do
some
some
of
this,
and
so,
if
you
would
chime
in
on
that.
C
Thank
you,
Mr
chair,
ashra,
Killian
committee
Council,
so
just
a
couple
of
the
recommendations
that
I
wanted
to
touch
on
that
are
that
are
covered
by
existing
law.
So
the
first
recommendation
about
extending
the
life
of
the
commission
to
continue
its
work.
I
would
just
mention
that
NRS
387
1246,
which
is
the
section
of
law
that
creates
the
commission,
is
permanent.
There
is
no
sunset
or
expiration
date
on
that
section,
so
the
commission
does
exist
permanently
as
a
body.
C
C
You
may
recall
at
the
work
session
for
this
committee
at
its
last
meeting,
the
committee
approved
an
item
to
revise
that
language
to
allow
for
the
commission
to
meet
outside
of
those
dates
at
the
call
of
the
chair
of
either
education
committee
or
money
Committee
of
the
legislature
for
the
second
recommendation
regarding
maintenance
of
the
model
that
drives
the
people-centered
funding
plan.
C
I
would
just
note
that
NRS
387
12
463
requires
the
commission
to
provide
guidance
to
school
districts
and
the
Department
of
Education
on
the
implementation
of
the
pcfp
and
on
an
ongoing
basis
to
monitor
the
implementation
of
the
pcfp
and
make
any
recommendations
to
the
Joint
interim
standing
committee
on
education
that
the
commission
determines
is
necessary
so
to
the
extent
that
maintaining
the
model
for
the
pcfp
is
recommended
to
be
a
joint
responsibility
of
the
department
and
the
commission.
C
C
So
it's
probably
not
appropriate
for
this
committee
to
be
working
through
that,
but
it
might
be
better
served
for
that
to
be
worked
through
the
budget
closing
process
during
session
to
make
sure
the
CSF
has
the
resources
necessary
to
carry
out
those
duties
and
then,
finally,
for
the
eighth
recommendation
regarding
state
general
fund
Appropriations
as
Mr
Hobb
noted,
existing
Law
requires
the
governor
and
it's
NRS
387
12
455.
Existing
Law
requires
the
governor
to
identify
an
amount
of
money
to
be
transferred
from
the
general
fund
to
the
State
education
fund
for
implementation
of
the
pcfp.
C
Unless
the
governor
finds
that
amount
to
be
unpracticable,
the
amount
that's
required
to
be
trans
bird
is
kind
of
a
three-tiered
process.
If
the
growth
in
the
state
general
fund,
as
forecasted
by
the
economic
Forum
will
exceed
the
combined
rate
of
growth
in
enrollment
and
the
rate
of
inflation,
then
the
governor
is
required
to
request
a
transfer
of
General
funds
at
that
higher
rate
into
the
State
education
fund
to
fund
the
pcfp.
C
If
the
economic
Forum
projects
that
the
growth
in
the
general
fund
will
be
less
than
the
combined
rate
of
inflation
and
growth
of
enrollment
than
the
governor
is
required
to
request
at
least
an
amount
for
the
combined
rate
of
inflation
and
growth
of
enrollment
to
be
transferred
from
the
general
fund
to
the
State
education
fund,
and
then
the
third
tier
is
if
the
economic
Forum
projects
that
the
revenue
in
the
general
fund
will
decrease,
then
the
governor
must
recommend
at
least
the
same
amount
of
money,
be
transferred
from
the
general
fund
to
this
data
education
fund,
as
was
transferred
in
the
preceding
biennium,
and
so
that
my
only
note
there
is
that
that
is
a
provision
of
existing
law,
and
it
sounds
like
the
commission's
recommendation
is
simply
that
the
governor
find
it
practicable
to
comply
with
existing
law.
C
A
That
came
up
in
that
in
his
analysis
that
that
you
wanted
to
comment
on.
I
Thank
you
very
much
Mr
chair
guy
Hobbs
once
again
in
the
in
the
continuation
of
the
commission
on
school
funding.
Yes,
we
do
I
suppose
have
the
ongoing
responsibility
of
improving
the
implementation
of
the
people-centered
funding
plan.
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
and
I,
don't
know
the
answer
to
this
question
at
this
moment,
but
would
be
happy
to
work
on
it
if
the
commission
were
tasked
with
further
deliverables
by
the
legislature
over
each
each
interim.
F
I
A
Okay
and
and
I
just
want
to
I
I
guess
I
want
to
clarify
for
the
record
in
the
recommendation
that
the
first
recommendation
you're
recommending
that
that
the
commission
be
allowed
to
continue
what
Mr
Killian
just
told
us
that's
already
in
statute,
so
is
there?
Is
there
discrepancy
in
in
that
some
other
interpretation
that
you're.
I
A
You
feel
or
that
you
have,
or
maybe
it's
it's
the
department,
because
I
had
heard
that
maybe
the
department
had
brought
up
that
issue
that
that
the
commission
would
be
done
and
then
would
no
longer
be
in
existence.
I
Thank
you,
Mr
chair
again,
guy
Hobbs,
I,
I.
Think
the
what
your
legal
counsel
indicated
to
you.
All
of
that
is
absolutely
correct.
I
I
suppose
that
some
of
it
came
from
feelings
on
the
part
of
some
members
of
the
commission
that
largely
its
work
had
maybe
been
completed,
at
least
its
initial
tasks
and
therefore
some
may
find
it
not
necessary
to
have
the
commission
continue.
That
was
more
speculation
on
their
part.
It's
not
something
that
was
necessarily
covered
by
the
law.
A
Okay,
so
okay,
so
I
as
far
as
that
issue,
so
the
way
I'm
looking
at
these
recommendations
is
that
we
really
don't
need
to
do
anything
on
the
first
one
and
second
one
because
that's
already
in
you
know,
state
law,
and
so
it's
really
only
there's
a
funding
issue
that
that
would
be
the
you
know:
the
normal
budget
process.
So
the
recommendation
you
know
to
be
to
make
sure
that's
funded
properly
and
then
on
the
let's
see
there
were
several
of
these.
That
I
think
were
recommendations
for
that.
A
We
I
think
interpret
as
being
recommendations
for
study
for
their
study,
like
the
revenue
which
would
probably
be
appropriate
to
to.
Maybe
that
would
be
more
appropriate,
like
in
a
letter
to
the
revenue
committees
to
do.
You
know
to
take
a
look
at
that,
as
opposed
to
in
the
education
committee,
the
performance
assessment
yeah,
and
that
would
be
another
one
that
we
that
would.
I
A
Would
need
some
type
of
study
to
be
able
to
come
up
with
that,
so
I
so
I
mean
so
there's
some
things
here
that
we
could
recommend
to
do.
I
think
the
one
issue,
the
one
issue
of
establishing
what
did
I
write
down,
Target
values,
I,
think
that
one
might
be
problematic
because
of
the
issue
of
that's
an
ongoing
thing
that
we
can't
tie
the
hands
of
future
legislatures.
A
However,
the
I
mean
that
would
be
a
really
good
way
to
set
that
Target
right,
but
so
I
don't
know,
there's
a
whole
lot
that
we
can
do
there
in
that
particular
recommendation,
but
so
okay,
thank
you
very
much
so
I
I
guess
the
question
I
have
and
first
of
all
any
questions
that
you
have
for
Mr
Hobbs
or
for
Mr
Killian
or
for
Mr.
A
A
Do
we
want
to
recommend
that
these
studies
be
done
so
that
okay
and
and
so
okay,
so
let's
I'm
gonna,
have
this
term
kind
of
individually
come
up
with
with
what
the
studies
are
and
who
we
are
recommending
do
the
study
or
because
that's
I
mean
we
need
to
figure
that
out?
If
we're
going
to
make
a
recommendation,
we
need
to
figure
out
who's
going
to
do
that.
A
Sure,
maybe
maybe
it'd
be
better
to
have
Mr
Killian
do
it.
That
would
you
remind
us
which
one
of
these
were
would
be
appropriate
for
would
be
more
appropriate
to
do
as
a
study.
C
Thank
you,
Mr
chair,
Asher,
Killian
committee
Council,
so
yes,
I,
believe
items
four
through
seven
of
these
recommendations
could
each
be
appropriately
addressed
as
a
study.
So
item
number
four
was
the
recommendation
for
the
creation
of
a
pathway
for
smaller
school
districts
to
acquire
capital
and
engage
in
building
Improvement
and
modernization
programs.
C
A
Record
hold
on
one
second,
rather
than
have
you
go,
let's
just
do
these
one
at
a
time
so
that
we
don't
have
to
come
back,
so
this
particular
one
was
the
basically
I
think
he
referenced
throughout
the
infrastructure,
Bank,
how
it
works
and
and
so
making
Capital
available.
A
Especially
he
pointed
out.
Some
of
the
rules
are
already
at
their
Max,
so
they
really
don't.
Have
the
ability
to
to
be
able
to
you
know,
build
a
new
facility?
Is
that
correct,
Mr
Killian?
Yes,.
A
Great,
so,
and
so
is
that
something
that
we
want
to
recommend
to
do
a
study
of,
and
if
so
do
we
want
the
interim
committee
on
education
to
do
that
or
or
have
the
commission
on
school
funding.
F
A
B
You
my
recommendation,
would
be
that
most
of
these
go
to
the
commission
and
so
that
they
can
continue
their
work
because
it's
going
to
be
very
important.
We
have
consistency
there
and
they
are
already
started
on
that
trajectory
in
my
opinion.
So.
B
A
Yes,
so
Vice
chair
and
Don
duralou.
A
Just
one
so
we
have
a.
We
have
a
motion
by
Vice
chair,
donder
Luke
second,
by
senator.
A
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
by
Vice
chair,
Bill,
Murray,
Axelrod,
second
by
Senator,
Don
Darrel
Loop,
on
discussion.
If
we,
if
we
recommend
the
commission,
do
this
and
we're
going
to
have
to
also
provide
some
funding
for
them
to
do
this
study.
A
I
would
imagine
so
just
that
as
part
of
the
as
we
talk
about
these
that
we
do
that
which
I
still
think
is
appropriate,
but
we
just
need
to
make
sure
we
that
that's
part
of
the
recommendation,
otherwise
we're
asking
to
do
it,
and
then
they
don't
have
the
ability
to
do
it.
I
C
Thank
you,
Mr
chair
after
killing
committee
Council,
so
recommendation
number
five
also
appeared
to
be
one
that
was
appropriate
for
an
issue
to
study,
and
that
was
the
recommendation
for
the
creation
of
performance
metrics
to
assess
the
impact
of
enhanced
investment
in
K-12
education.
This
is
one
that
appears
to
be
appropriate
either
for
the
interim
committee
on
education
or
for
the
commissioned
on
school
funding
to
generate
those
recommendations
for
thank
you,
Mr,
chair.
A
Okay,
so
on
this
one
discussion,
Vice
chair,
Bill
braix,
run.
E
A
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
from
Vice,
chair,
Bill
Rex
for
Rod.
B
A
C
Thank
you,
Mr
Ash
for
killing
committee
Council.
So
the
next
item
that
seemed
to
be
appropriate
for
a
study
was
recommendation,
number
six,
which
was
a
recommendation
for
the
legislature
to
study
the
imbalance
between
the
number
of
professional
Educators
matriculating
from
institutions
of
higher
education
in
the
state
and
the
number
of
new
units
of
professional
Educators
demanded
each
year
by
school
districts
in
the
state,
as
well
as
issues
relating
to
classification
and
compensation
of
Educators
and
support
personnel
and
certain
related
issues.
C
B
Thank
you
very
much
chair,
I,
I,
think
I
sort
of
said
this
at
the
beginning,
but
I
think
they
should
be
doing
them
all
because
of
the
consistency
in
my
opinion,
while
I
recognize
some
of
these
may
be
able
to
fit
in
both
areas.
Maybe
an
interim
study
or
an
interim
committee
versus
Commission
on
school
funding.
I
just
feel
like
the
continuation
of
the
school
funding
information
model,
the
people
working
on
it.
Everything
involved
I
feel
like
it's
a
really
good
balance
and
I
think
that
they
need
to
continue
this
work.
E
That
I
would
move
to
have
the
commission
on
school
funding
work
on
this
issue
as
well.
A
We
have
a
motion
from
some
of
the
woman.
Bill
reacts
rods,
second
from
Senator
Don,
Daryl
Luke.
Any
further
discussion
on
the
motion.
Okay,
all
in
favor,
say,
aye
raise
your
hand.
Any
oppose.
Any
okay
motion
carries
all
right.
Mr
Killian
is
there.
C
Thank
you
Mr
chair,
so
the
the
final
item
recommended
that
appeared
to
be
appropriate
for
your
study
was
recommendation,
number
seven,
which
was
to
consider
modernization
of
both
the
Nevada
sales
and
use
tax
and
property
tax
systems
as
primary
and
traditional
funding
sources
for
State
services
and
K-12
education
capacity
exists
within
both
of
these
systems
of
Taxation
to
fund
the
recommended
increase
in
funding
for
K-12
education.
C
A
So
discussion
on
on
this
one
Mr
Killian
recommend.
Well,
he
suggested
that
it
could
be
done
by
either
revenue
or
could
be
done
by
the
commission.
Any
discussion,
someone
bilberry
actor
on.
E
I
actually
think
this
is
more
appropriate
that
the
revenue
committee
that
we
we
give
this
information
to
the
revenue
committee
on
the
assembly
side
for
short,
because
that's
what
we
call
it
as
Revenue,
but
but
I
think
that's
the
appropriate
place
to
to
deal
with
this
with
the
information
that
that
Mr
Hobbs
has
presented
and
the
and
the
school
funding
Commission.
A
I
I
would
I
think
I
think
either
one
could
do
this
I
think
the
benefit
I
would
see
to
having
Revenue
do
it
is
that
you
have
another
group
of
legislators
that
would
look
at
these
issues.
I
mean
the
way
he
lined
it
out
today.
I,
don't
know
that
we've
ever
really
discussed
it
that
way
in
revenue
and
I
think
it
might
be
helpful
to
have
someone
else.
A
B
Which
is
a
another
thought
on
that?
We
have
got
a
really
short
timeline
before
we
start
our
session
in
February.
B
I
see
this
as
something
once
again
and
it's
not
taking
it
away
from
the
legislature,
it's
giving
it
to
another
body
that
is
continuing
this
work
and
can
work
hand
in
hand
with
the
legislature,
so
I
would
still
lean
a
little
bit
on
the
school
funding
side.
I
think
and
the
other
clarification
is.
These
are
just
recommendations,
so
at
any
point,
that
recommendation
could
actually
change,
but
that
might
my
suggestion
would
still
be
the
school
funding
commission
or
the
commission
on
school
funding.
A
E
You
Mr
Cherry
that
actually,
it
just
occurred
to
me
and
maybe
Mr
killing
kid
clarify
if
we
did
hand
it
over
to
revenue
they
by
what
what
we
have.
What
our
recommendation
was
that
we
could
call
up
the
commission
on
school
funding,
but
if
we
turn
it
over
to
revenue,
that's
not
something
that
they
could
do.
They
could
not
call
them
to
work
on
the
issue
so
that
that
would
be
my
concern.
Okay,
Mr.
A
Killian,
did
you
understand
the
the
comment
or
the
question
whether
if,
if
the
revenue
committee
was
working
on
this,
would
they
even
be
able
to
work
with
the
commission
since
they've
already
done
the
preliminary
work
on
this.
C
Thank
you,
Mr
chair
Asher,
Kelly
and
committee
Council,
so
I'll
preface
this
answer
by
just
saying
that
under
existing
law,
the
commission
on
school
funding
cannot
meet
again.
Since
we've
passed,
September
30th
of
the
even
numbered
year.
The
commissioned
on
school
funding
cannot
meet
again
until
after
the
2023
legislative
session
that
this
committee
did
request
a
bill
draft
to
allow
them
to
meet
on
Call
of
the
chair
of
Education
or
money.
But
that's
not
law
yet
and
that
wouldn't
become
law
until
obviously
after
the
23
session
starts.
C
So
if,
if
this
were
a
matter
that
were
committed
to
the
interim
Revenue
committee
during
the
23
to
25
biennium,
based
on
the
request
of
this
committee
earlier
that
the
chairs
of
education
and
money
be
able
to
call
the
CSF
into
session,
it
would
not
be
a
thing
that
the
revenue
chairs
could
call
CSF
into
session
four.
But
you
could
make
it
part
of
that
request
to
allow
the
revenue
chairs
to
call
CSF
into
session
for
this
particular
matter.
C
A
Okay
so
motion
then
sounds
like
we
want
to
do
something
so.
A
Rather,
we
want
commission
or
Revenue
to
do
that.
The
way
I
look
at
this
is
they're,
going
to
do
a
study
and
come
back
with
some
recommendations.
A
So
at
some
point,
if
we
have
the
commission
do
it,
they
they
can
probably
really
do
a
really
good
job
and
and
then
but
then
the
recommendations
eventually
would
have
to
go
to
revenue
in
the
in
the
next
session
or
whatever
so
either
way.
I
mean
they're.
Both
gonna
look
at
this
at
one
one
way
or
another.
So
so
do
we
have
a
I
said?
Yes,
Vice,
chair,
Bill
Rex
run.
E
Thank
you,
Mr
chair,
then
I
would
make
the
motion
to
once
again
give
this
back
to
the
commission
on
school
funding.
Sheep.
All
right,
that's
my
motion.
A
On
Daryl
Loop
any
further
discussion
on
the
motion,
all
in
favor
say
aye
aye
all
right
should
passes.
Okay.
Does
that
cover
all
so
so
these
will
these
recommendations
to
be
included
in
the
the
recommendations
that
we're
already
doing
for
the
commission.
Is
that
correct,
yeah.
A
Four
five
six
and
seven
yeah,
so
these
are
to
have
it
studied
yeah,
four,
five,
six
and
seven,
and
then
the
my
understanding
was
that
we
Mr
Killian
made
it
clear
that
the
commission
continues.
I
mean
it's
not
being
discontinued
and
so
somehow
I
think
that
there's
an
somebody
has
an
interpretation,
that's
different
than
than
what
actual
law
is
there.
A
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
was
clear
for
the
record
that
you
know
the
commission
continues
on
and
the
funding
part
has
to
go
through
the
up
through
the
budget
process
to
make
sure
that
they
have
the
funding
to
be
able
to
do
not
only
their
work.
But
now
we're
asking
them
to
do
this
additional
these
additional
studies
that
they
could
have
done.
A
B
Jen
Sturm
Community
policy-
analyst.
That's
all
I
had
noted
for
this
item.
A
All
right,
thank
you
and
thank
you,
Mr
Killian,
for
your
help
on
that
all
right.
So
let's
that
completes
that
item.
Let's
go
on
to
our
next
item,
which
is
the
presentation
on
the
findings
and
recommendations
concerning
the
study
of
instruction
relating
to
the
Holocaust
and
other
genocides,
and
we
have
I
believe
chair
Elliott,
Malin
Malin
here
in
Las
Vegas
Dave,
Brent
Camp
from
the
Nevada
Department
of
Education
and
Janie
malarni
from
the
Nevada
Department
of
Education.
A
So
I,
don't
know
how
you
how
you
guys
want
to
do
that,
but
whoever's
going
to
speak
first,
when
you're
ready
go
ahead.
H
Hello
good
morning,
I'm
Jamie
morning
for
the
record,
thank
you,
chair
and
committee
members
for
allowing
us
to
present
some
findings
over
our
subcommittee
on
the
Holocaust
and
other
genocides.
My
counterpart,
who
was
up
north
director
Dave
brain
camp,
had
to
actually
leave
he's
triple
booked
today,
so
he
had
to
run
back
to
the
Fifth
Street
office
to
present
on
regulations,
so
we're
trying
to
be
in
more
places
with
less
people.
I
guess.
H
We
are
here
presenting
I,
am
here
myself:
I
am
Jane
malarni
I
am
an
education
program,
professional
with
Department
of
Education
and
I
staff.
This
subcommittee
and
I'm
a
with
our
chair,
Elia
Mahan,
and
he
will
be
presenting
as
well
with
me
just
to
refresh
our
memory.
H
The
subcommittee
was
created
through
ab231,
which
does
require
the
State
Board
of
Education
to
appoint
a
subcommittee
to
review
and
make
recommendations
on
the
manner
in
which
to
provide
certain
information
to
pupils
concerning
the
Holocaust
and
other
genocides
such
as
Armenian
Cambodian,
defar,
Guatemalan
and
Rwandan
genocides.
Additionally,
we
are
to
review
the
manner
in
which
certain
standards
support,
comprehensive
education
on
Holocaust
for
educators
and
students,
including
resources
and
professional
learning.
H
Ab-231
specified
members
to
be
on
the
subcommittee,
and
you
can
see
who
is
who
represents
the
different
entities
that
are
on
this
this
subcommittee,
so
we
do
have
representation
from
the
Department
from
the
state
board
members
from
the
governor's
advising
advisory
Council
on
education.
For
relating
to
the
Holocaust.
We
have
representation
from
non-prof,
non-profit
organizations
in
working
with
Holocaust
and
with
other
genocides.
We
also
have
individuals
who
are
Educators
one
educator
from
a
school
district
that
is
smaller
than
60
000,
one
educator
that
is
larger,
a
district
that
has
more
than
60
000
students.
H
The
subcommittee
itself
was
really
asked
to
explore
and
we
broke
it
down
into
these
four
questions.
So
one
is
what
is
occurring
and
Holocaust
and
other
and
other
genocide's
instruction.
So
what's
already
occurring
right
now
in
our
classrooms,
what
could
be
enhanced?
What
are
things
that
we
know
that
that
maybe
isn't
happening
or
things
that
we
need
to
do
to
ensure
is
happening?
H
You
can
see
what
has
been
happening
currently
relating
to
professional
learning,
as
well
as
in
what
was
planned
for
this
year.
So
in
working
with
Nevada
Department
of
Education,
multiple
organizations
around
our
state
and
the
local
school
districts,
you
can
kind
of
see
what
has
been
happening.
So
we
do
offer
face-to-face
events.
There's
been
a
one
in
Washoe
and
one
in
Clark
County
and
over
since
covid.
We
have
increased
to
a
virtual
event
that
does
include
all
districts
and
charter
schools
from
around
the
state.
H
There's
been
multiple
professional
learning
opportunities
made
by
multiple
different,
non-profit
and
other
organizations
through
Echoes
and
reflection
through
the
lme,
the
LA
Museum,
the
Tolerance
Museum
in
La.
That
really
does
have
a
vast
amount
of
resources
relating
to
the
Holocaust,
as
well
as
Illinois,
Holocaust
Museum
and
the
PBS
modules
that
are
offered
within
our
state
that
really
help
provide
resources,
content
and
professional
learning
for
our
educators.
H
The
last
few
years
UNLV
has
hosted
a
panel
on
Holocaust
Education,
and
then
there
has
been
District
specific
professional
learning
opportunities
that
are
that
our
state
has
offered.
The
one
thing
that
I
would
say
is
is
in
addition
to
this
upcoming
year.
You
can
see
that
they're
very,
very
similar
is
that
we
will
have
the
face-to-face
event,
and
this
is
an
actual
student
teacher
conference.
H
So
students
come
as
well
as
teachers
come
in
both
Clark
County
and
in
Washoe
County,
and
we
are
also
adding
what
we're
calling
the
Holocaust
traveling
tour,
and
so
this
is
where
there
will
be
members
myself
included,
that
we're
actually
going
to
go
to
three
districts
a
year
and
provide
in-house
learning
for
students
and
then
professional
learning
for
educators.
So
some
of
our
smaller
districts
have
a
harder
time
accessing
professional
learning
and
getting
face-to-face
events
as
well
as
our
students,
so
we're
going
to
bring
it
to
them.
H
H
H
Would
we
have
liked
to
see
more
absolutely,
but
we
did
get
over
a
hundred,
and
some
of
the
summary
that
we
did
that
we
pulled
from
the
results
was
that
our
teachers
responded
at
that
they
understand
Holocaust
and
they
understand
teaching
the
Holocaust,
but
they
definitely
needed
more
support
in
the
other
genocides.
It
wasn't
clear
to
them
what
and
or
what
resources
they
should
be
using
on
how
to
teach
it
and
how
to
teach
it
appropriately.
H
The
second
one
which
was
interesting
to
us
is,
they
actually
said
they
wanted
mandatory
training,
so
they
believed
that,
instead
of
being
optional,
they
believed
that
Educators
should
be
actually
told
to
take
training
around
Holocaust
and
other
genocides,
mostly
because
this
leads
into
the
third
one
is
that
our
teachers
might
have
the
resources
to
teach
it,
but
they
don't
understand
the
the
methodology
behind
teaching,
Holocaust
and
other
genocides.
It
is
a
controversial
topic.
H
It
is
difficult
to
talk
about
in
classrooms
with
kids,
and
so
some
of
our
teachers
don't
feel
equipped
with
the
strategies
in
order
to
teach
us
effectively
and
appropriately
with
without
being
disrespectful,
and
so
that
was
those
were
the
really
high
needs.
G
This
is
so
far
Elliot
Mallon
for
the
record,
chair
of
the
subcommittee
on
Holocaust
and
other
genocides,
and
I
want
to
emphasize
the
rest
of
this,
such
as
the
Armenian
Cambodian,
Darfur,
Guatemalan
and
Rwandan
genocides
and
I
wanted
to
emphasize
that,
because
something
we
did
see
from
that
really
fast
was
while
teachers
and
Educators
in
Nevada
are
largely
confident
on
the
Holocaust.
We
saw
a
lot
of
responses
also
that
we're
about
conflicts
that
weren't
genocide
within
the
statute
within
ab-231.
G
We
included
a
definition
for
genocide
from
the
United
States
Holocaust
Memorial
Museum
on
the
other
side
of
that
is.
A
lot
of
the
responses
were
only
about
the
Holocaust
and
I've,
while
the
Holocaust
is
important
to
me,
I
own,
the
big
reason
why
we
brought
the
legislation
in
the
first
place,
we
did
put
an
emphasis
on
bringing
others
to
the
table
to
make
sure
that
their
stories
were
told
so
Nevada's
Educators.
What
we
saw
also
was
that
they
need
the
resources
and
the
professional
development
on
genocide,
education.
G
What
they
want
to
see
what
they
want
is
the
knowledge,
the
knowledge
base
and
the
resources
and
the
tools
to
make
them
successful
in
the
classroom
to
help
them
teach
these
to
the
their
students.
So
the
recommendations
from
the
subcommittee
was
to
build
a
system-wide
support
for
all
Educators
families
and
students.
We
wanted
to
develop
a
crosswalk
of
English
English
language,
arts,
Fine
Arts
and
social
studies,
standards
that
addressed
the
Holocaust
and
these
other
genocides.
One
thing
we
noticed
is
that
Holocaust
and
genocide.
G
Education
is
not
just
social
studies,
it
can
be
art,
it
can
be
English
literature,
oftentimes
teachers
are
assigning
the
novel
Knight
or
it
could
be
film.
It
could
be
cinematic
Arts
we're
seeing
some
teachers
utilize
these
resources
in
their
classrooms,
as
well
anecdotally,
here
growing
up
in
Las
Vegas
as
a
student
in
Clark,
County,
School
District,
we
watch
The,
Devil's,
Arithmetic
in
class
and
so
they're.
G
Looking
for
these
resources
to
be
brought
together
and
to
be
cross-disciplinary,
they
want
to
secureate
those
resources
for
the
Educators
on
Holocaust
and
other
genocides
and
host
that
on
a
website
in
Statewide,
LMS
or
canvas.
They
want
us
to
work.
Collaborative
collaboratively
with
the
governor's
advisory
Council
on
education,
education
relating
to
the
Holocaust.
We
have
these
resources
here
in
state,
but
that
advisory
council
is
also
has
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
budget
and
that
gets
stretched
pretty
thin.
G
G
And
that
is
our
recommendations.
And
this
was
important
to
us
because
again
it
gets
to
the
root
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
and
that's
further
Holocaust
and
other
genocide.
Education
in
the
state
of
Nevada
and
I
want
to
reiterate
that
that
those
other
genocides
again
are
the
Armenian,
Cambodian,
Darfur,
Guatemalan
and
Rwandan
genocides,
and
that's
not
limited
to
that.
While
again
many
of
you
know
me,
the
Holocaust
is
important
to
me
personally.
J
And
thank
you
for
this
much
needed
presentation.
I
just
have
just
one
question
on
slide.
Eight
you
had
indicated
bringing
others
to
the
table.
I
wanted
to
know
who
were
the
others.
If
you
could
specify.
H
Thank
you
for
the
question
Jenny
morning
again
for
the
record
addressing
the
individuals
and
stakeholders
around
particularly
the
other
genocides
that
that
we
had
mentioned
so
making
sure
that
their
voices
are
heard
so
really
honoring
and
capturing
thoughts
around
Cambodian
and
defer
and
Armenian,
and
not
just
be
solely
on
Holocaust.
And
so
those
are
the
aspects
that
we
really
wanted
to
pay.
H
I
would
say
more
attention
to,
and
our
teachers
had
indicated.
The
same
is
that
they
seem
to
have
more
resources
and
understand
teaching
the
Holocaust
I
would
say
better
because
they
probably
have
been
teaching
it
longer
versus
really
calling
out
and
addressing
those
other
genocides.
G
Ellie
Mellon
for
the
record
and
if
I
can
follow
that
up
really
quickly
and
I,
keep
putting
the
stress
and
the
emphasis
on
these
other
genocides,
because
I
think
that's
important.
Our
mission
was
not
to
just
look
at
the
Holocaust,
but
it's
to
make
sure
that
the
nevadans
voices
of
one
are
heard.
These
stories
are
taught
and
our
our
students
are
taught
these
lessons
that
help
them
become
better
citizens
over
time
and
that
mission
was
taken
very
seriously
by
the
subcommittee.
G
It's
a
conversation
we
had
at
our
last
subcommunity
meeting
last
week
when
we
were
making
these
recommendations
on
who
should
be
at
this
table
and
it's
making
sure
that
it's
not
just
me
coming
from
the
Jewish
Community,
but
it's
bringing
the
Armenian
Armenian
Community
to
the
table.
It's
bringing
the
Guatemalan
Community
to
the
table,
the
Cambodian
Community,
the
darfurion
community
to
the
table
and
making
sure
that
their
stories
are
taught
and
that
all
the
recognized
genocides
again.
We
have
a
definition
for
that
that
they
have
a
chance
to
have
that
story.
Told.
J
And
thank
you,
and
would
that
include
pardon
me
for
not
understanding
completely,
would
that
include
our
African
Community
also.
G
J
Genocide
then,
yes,
okay,
thank
you
and
just
a
follow-up
chair.
Please.
A
J
J
G
Elliot
Mullen
for
the
record.
The
intent
here
is
to
place
this
position
within
the
Department
of
Education
as
a
funded
position
and
within
that
funding
is
that
we
have
the
resources
to
make
sure
that
they
are
able
to
include
these.
These
groups,
these
genocides,
these
historical
events
and
bring
all
of
the
resources
together
for
our
teachers,
our
Educators
and
then
give
them
those
resources,
not
just
the
physical
paper,
but
also
the
professional
development,
understood.
A
I
just
want
to
be
I
want
to
understand
part
of
the
question
you
just
answered.
She
asked
about
African
genocide.
The
bill
was
real
specific
in
the
the
genocides.
Is
it
so?
It's
not.
It
doesn't
include
all
genocides
that
have
occurred
right.
G
Elliot
Mountain
for
the
record.
It
includes
all
genocides
that
meet
the
definition
from
the
United
States
Holocaust
Memorial
Museum,
the
ones
that
we
list
are
not
all
inclusive,
okay,
they're
examples
of
genocides
that
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
looking
at
and
we
did
bring
up,
Darfur
and
I
believe
we
even
had
Rwandan
purposely
on
there,
because
it's
not
again,
it's
not
just
the
Holocaust.
That's
not
the
only
genocide
here.
Genocide
is.
G
A
B
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
presentation
where,
when
you
talked
about
the
support
instruction
and
that
the
teachers
lacked
all
those
strategies
and
resources,
where
are
we
in
the
preparation
or
the
I?
Guess
the
preparation
of
those
resources
for
teachers.
G
Elliot
Malin
for
the
record,
so
one
thing
we
saw
is
that
we
do
have
a
lot
of
these
resources
out
there
and
a
lot
of
those
voices
are
encapsulated
on
this
subcommittee.
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
bring
everything
together,
so
we
don't.
Our
purview
was
not
to
bring
this
together
within.
The
subcommittee
was
to
make
this
recommendation
and
these,
while
these
resources
are
here
in
the
state,
there's
no
one
particularly
right
now,
bringing
it
all
together
for
our
teachers
and
our
Educators.
G
A
Other
questions,
okay,
so
we
could
make
some
right.
We
have
the
ability
we
do
have
a
bdr.
If
we
want
to
make
any
recommendations,
we
don't
have
to
do
a
bdr
we
if
we
have,
if
we
just
want
to
do
like
we
did
with
some
of
the
other
stuff
and
have
a
send
a
letter
to
different
departments
or
to
the
finance
committee
specific
the
the
recommendations
that
they
made
call
for
funding
education,
programs
at
the
department
of
Ed
and
also
professional
development
and
support
for
student
substitute
teacher
coverage.
A
So
those
would
probably
be
they
wouldn't
be
in
a
bdr
format,
because
it
would
be
part
of
the
budget
process.
So
I
would
I
would
think
that
that
would
be
a
letter
from
us
going
to
like
the
governor's
office.
Maybe
copying
the
department
of
Ed
and
maybe
to
the
finance
committees.
A
Okay,
so
bilberry
Axelrod.
E
Uction,
thank
you
Mr
chair.
It
says
darn
hyphenated
names
get
you.
Yes,
my
recommendation
would
be
to
do
exactly
what
you
said
to
send
a
letter
to
the
governor's
office,
so
this
would
be
included
in
the
budget
for
these
items
that
were
recommended
by
the
subcommittee.
So
that
would
be
my
motion.
A
A
Right,
we
have
a
second
from
Senator
on
Daryl
Loop,
any
further
discussion
on
the
motion,
all
right,
all
of
those
in
favor,
say
aye,
Indian,
post,
saying
a
okay
motion
carries
thank
you
very
much
great
report
and
great
work
that
you're
doing,
and
hopefully
we
can
get
you
some
help
to
do
some
of
these
things
that
that
have
been
identified.
Thank
you
all
right.
A
A
Thank
you.
Oh
yes,
I'm
sorry,
we
do
have
somebody
here.
She'll
come
forward
also,
while
she's
coming
forward.
Anyone
that
wishing
to
give
if.
I
A
E
Ready
thank
you.
Elena
hovenessian,
as
a
stakeholder
on
behalf
of
the
Armenian
Community
here
in
Nevada,
and
also
as
a
representative
of
the
Armenian
National
Committee
of
America
Nevada,
co-chair
I,
want
to
say
thank
you
to
Janie,
Maloney
and
Elliot
Mallon
for
their
work
and
the
subcommittee
as
well
as
the
you
know.
E
The
individuals
who
are
on
that
subcommittee
and
thank
you
too,
as
well
to
the
education
committee
for
the
tremendous
support
and
I
just
wanted
to
identify
additional
resources
that
are
available,
such
as
Kirk
Krikorian,
who
was
the
Titan
here
in
the
state
of
Nevada.
One
of
his
his
legacy
projects
was
the
promise
film,
which
was
about
the
Armenian
Genocide,
which
would
be
a
tremendous
resource
that
we
could
discuss.
E
You
know
with
the
subcommittee
as
well
as
Ani
jovanizian's
film
The
Hidden
map,
which
was
on
PBS
recently
here
in
Nevada
as
well,
so
they're
tremendous
resources
that
could
be
used.
You
know
as
teaching
tools
in
film
and
also
other
genocide,
education
curricula
which
have
been
developed
by
The
Armenian,
Community
Nationwide,
so
I
I
definitely
appreciate
the
inclusion,
both
in
the
bill
and
on
going
through
the
implementation
of
other
genocides
and
especially
the
Armenian
Genocide,
which
which
was
the
first
genocide
of
the
modern
era.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Anyone
else
here
in
Las,
Vegas,
okay,
let's
go
to
BPF
bps2m
anyone
online
wishing
to
give
public
comment.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
I'd
like
to
thank
the
members
and
everyone
who
presented
to
the
committee
today
and
all
the
work
that
went
forth
to
be
able
to
do
that.
An
archived
version
of
today's
meeting
will
be
available
online.
A
A
Since
it's
my
last
official
meeting
with
education
and
I'd
like
to
just
say
that
it's
been
an
honor
to
serve
as
chair
I
know,
I've
had
an
opportunity
before,
but
we've
really
done
a
lot
of
great
work
and
I.
The
committee
members
are
amazing
and
I
know.
A
You've
got
a
lot
of
work
ahead
of
you
and
hopefully
you're
better
prepared,
as
you
go
into
session,
with
the
things
that
we've
been
able
to
study
and
and
hear
over
the
last
this
over
this
interim
and
thanks
again
for
the
service
that
you
give
and
I
know
that
we've
done
some
great
things
for
education
and
we've
got
more
things
to
do,
and
y'all
you'll
have
an
opportunity
to
do
that.
So
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
to
allow
me
to
chair
this
committee.
A
I
I
mentioned
this
at
the
beginning
of
all
the
committee
members
I'm,
the
only
male
in
a
committee
and
full
of
some
amazing
women
and
I
know
that
there's
some
amazing
work.
That's
coming
forth
from
you.
So
thank
you
for
that.
Any
additional
comments
before
I
yeah
Senator
Don
Daryl.
B
Mr,
chair
I'd,
just
like
to
take
the
time
to
thank
you
publicly
for
your
time
and
your
expertise
and
and
your
gift
to
this
state,
because
you
have
been
a
long-standing
Committee,
Member
and
and
that's
really
important,
to
have
the
institutional
knowledge.
I
know
that
sometimes
in
this
job
people
think
they
want
to
change.
B
But
lest
we
never
forget
the
history
of
what
has
happened
before
us,
and
so
thank
you
very
much
and
I
think
that
you've
always
been
the
male
in
a
lot
of
women,
because
you
also
were
the
PTA
president
and
and
encouraged
men
to
get
involved.
So,
thank
you
very
much
and
we
so
appreciate
you
and
you
will
be
missed.
E
Thank
you
and
I
I
ditto,
that
from
my
colleague,
Don
Dara
Loop,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say.
As
someone
who
came
into
this
committee
as
chair
well,
the
during
session
I
just
really
appreciated
your
very
open
door
policy.
E
I
have
learned
in
my
three
terms
that
not
every
chair
is
like
that.
So
I
really
appreciate
that
and
I
I
I
appreciate
you
involving
me
in
everything,
even
in
the
interim
as
well
so
you've
become
quite
a
mentor
and
a
big
shoes
to
fill
for
whoever
takes
over
the
Senate
education
committee,
but
I
look
forward
to
working
with
them
so
we'll
miss
you.
A
Thank
you,
assemblyman
Thomas.
Yes,.
J
Just
for
the
record
I
wanted
to
ditto
both
and
the
senator
and
assembly
woman
and
vice
chair
what
they
have
to
say
about
you
I.
You
know
you
and
I
have
a
long-standing
relationship
and
I
appreciate
your
guidance
over
the
years.
As
far
as
education
is
concerned
and
I
appreciate
being
on
this
interim
committee
for
education
and
you've
been
an
excellent
chair
and
I
must
say
during
I.
Come
come
a
conversation
during
some
combative
moments
that
we've
had
here.
A
Thank
you
very
much
just
for
the
record.
Our
our
daughters
are
best
friends
since
high
school,
so
we
knew
each
other
before
the
legislature.
So
all
right
with
that
actually
Senator
Don
Daryl
Luke,
just
reminded
me
of
a
story.
I
used
to
tell
you
know:
I
got
involved
in
the
legislature
because
of
my
involvement.
A
Pta
I
walked
into
a
kindergarten
classroom
30
plus
years
ago
and
and
volunteered
to
get
involved,
and
so
I
became
the
the
president
at
a
local
school
at
CC,
Ronald,
Elementary,
School
and
after
I
had
sort
of
two
I
think
I'd
served
two
terms.
A
I
think
it
was
two
years
or
four
years
whatever
it
was,
my
wife
decided
to
run
for
PTA
and
and
my
kids,
the
the
kids
at
the
school
and
my
kids
said
you
mean
a
woman
can
run
for
PTA
president
and
so
I
always
thought
that
that
was
the
you
know
the
fact
that
they
got
to
see
different
role
models
in
different
things
that
they
can
do
things.
And
hopefully
you
know
the
things
that
we
do
are
really
making
a
difference
in
the
lives
of
children.
A
I
mean
that's.
Why
I
got
involved?
You
know
I,
wanted
to
make
it
better
for
my
daughter,
but
realize
that
we
really
have
to
help
all
of
Nevada's
kids
if
we
really
want
to
make
a
difference
for
our
for
our
future
and
for
our
children
in
their
future.
So
anyways,
thank
you
for
that
with
that.
We
have
no
further
items
to
come
before
us
at
this
time,
so
we
are
adjourned.