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209.461.2
every
program
for
the
employment
of
offenders
established
by
the
director
must
a
employ
the
maximum
number
of
offenders
possible
and
we
try
to
do
that
as
much
as
we
can.
The
mission
statement
of
prison
industries
is
to
reduce
government
operating
costs,
provide
offenders
the
skills
and
certifications
necessary
to
successfully
re-enter
society
and
enhance
the
safe
operation
of
correctional
facilities.
D
D
Approximately
615
offenders
work
in
prison
industries
programs
and
are
routinely
placed
in
quality
professions
upon
release.
Prison
industries
has
operations
at
northern
nevada,
correctional
center
southern
desert,
correctional
center
lovelock
correctional
center
and
high
desert
state
prison.
The
shops
mimic
the
structure
of
the
outside
world
and
include
card
sorting,
hanger,
sorting,
sewing
collections,
the
vat
organics
compost,
bll
horse,
blm,
horse
program,
tag,
plant
print,
furniture,
metal,
mattress,
ranch,
garment
and
auto.
Please
join
us
in
our
efforts
to
create
even
more
opportunities
for
offenders
to
gain
marketable
skills
during
incarceration
certifications
in
alignment
with
this
legislature.
D
D
Certifications
in
prison
industries
are
available
through
american
welding
society,
american
screen,
printing
association
and
osha
training
in
partnership
with
the
nevada,
safety,
consultation
and
training
section,
which
is
known
as
scats
partnerships,
western
nevada
college,
great
partnership
really
strong
and
it's
an
honor
to
work
with
them
in
a
long-standing
relationship.
The
college
provides
many
opportunities
to
offenders
who
work
in
prison
industries.
D
Welding
classes
are
taught
on
site
in
the
metal
shop,
along
with
a
welding
simulator
that
increases
the
number
of
offenders
who
can
be
trained,
while
also
reducing
the
cost.
That
cost
was
picked
up
by
western
nevada
college.
We
have
two
on
site
and
it
is
a
great
tool
for
these
offenders
to
learn
prior
to
going
to
really
burning
the
wire
itself.
D
I'm
also
proud
to
announce
that
we
had
six
of
11
offenders
that
graduated
last
month
and
majority
work
in
prison
industries.
They
have
degrees,
aaa
degrees
and
applied
science.
So
I'm
happy
to
say
that
it's
a
successful
program
and
I
attended
the
graduation
at
warm
springs,
correctional
center
and
northern
nevada
correctional
center.
D
The
continuing
education
department
of
wnc
recently
acquired
a
simulator
to
provide
cdl
classes.
Prison
industries
is
working
with
a
college
to
develop
a
satellite
program
at
prison
industries
ranch
at
the
stuart
conservation
camp
offenders
would
train
with
the
college
and
once
licensed
drive
trucks
for
our
prison
industries.
Partners
such
as
full
circle
compost,
and
at
this
point
they
have
over
30
trucks
that
come
in
and
out
of
northern
nevada
correctional
center
out
by
stewart
conservation
camp.
D
So,
in
working
with
western
nevada
college
try
to
get
their
commercial
drivers
license,
we
are
looking
to
try
to
implement
to
get
them
their
license
and
operate
these
trucks
and
they
would
park
them
at
the
end
of
the
day
and
also
and
stay
the
night
at
stuart
conservation
camp
once
they
complete
their
sense,
they
will
go
out
to
the
community.
We
will
partner
them
up
with
trucking
company
companies
out
there
if
they
desire
to
go
that
route
for
that
career.
But
I'm
excited
about
that
program
and
working
hard
hard
on
that
program.
D
D
Ericsson
framing
we
transport
trustees
up
to
daily
from
stuart
constitution,
steward
conservation
camp
to
a
company
in
reno.
They
earn
minimum
wage
while
learning
the
trade.
Many
offenders
have
gained
employment
with
the
company
upon
release.
D
It
will
expand
to
include
commercial
truck
driving
once
the
training
is
established,
also
working
with
financial
institutions,
bank
of
america,
greater
nevada,
credit
union,
I've
been
in
touch
and
prison
industries
and
scheduling
they
have
the
curriculum,
ready
and
representatives
to
come
into
prison
industries.
We
will
shut
the
operation
down
so
that
these
offenders
can
get
classes
on
financial
literacy
and
financial
planning,
which
is
very
important
upon
release.
D
D
We
are
working
with
this
company
and
what
we're
looking
at
at
this
point
is
for
manufacturers
on
the
outside
the
community
to
bring
their
older
equipment
or
when
they
replace
their
new
cnc
or
their
old
cnc
machines,
to
bring
them
into
our
industries
to
train
these
offenders,
to
work
on
them
and
produce
their
product
at
a
wage,
and
also
once
they
complete
their
sense.
They
can
transition
right
to
this
company
out
in
the
community
where
they
have
already
been
trained
and
still
working
with
western
nevada
college
on
bringing
in
some
simulator
cnc
simulators.
D
That
would
be
very,
very
beneficial
for
our
offenders
bureau
of
land
management.
We
also
have
a
contract
with
bureau
of
land
management.
We
have
wild
horses
and
boroughs
gathered
from
federal
lands
that
are
housed
and
trained
at
this.
At
our
silver
state
industries
ranch
the
animals
receive
at
least
120
days
of
training,
and
we
are
well
and
they're
well
cared
for
and
fed.
The
facility
can
hold
up
to
2
000
horses,
and
we
have
adoptions
that
are
held
quarterly,
and
I
invite
committee
members
legislators
to
come
out
and
see
the
adoption
we
have
every
quarter.
D
D
E
Thank
you
so
much.
I
think
we
did
want
to
get
through
all
of
the
department
of
corrections,
I'm
not
sure,
but
I
think
we
still
have
to
hear
from
offender
management
administration.
A
Good
afternoon
sheriff
scheible
committee
committee
members
for
the
record,
my
name
is
bill.
Gitter
spelled
g-I-t-t-e-r-e
deputy
director
of
operations
for
the
nevada
department
of
corrections.
I
too
promise
that
I
will
not
be
calculating
any
sentence
structures
in
the
department
of
corrections
today,
ten
thousand
two
hundred
ninety
three
offenders
live
in
eight
different
major
institutions
and
ten
smaller
facilities
spread
across
our
state
as
one
combined
team.
A
A
A
In
addition,
the
department
and
institutions
continually
monitor
and
analyze
security
incidents
in
order
to
counter
adverse
trends,
re-establish
control
and
maintain
order
an
example
of
those
measurements
and
how
the
department
analyzes
them
will
follow.
In
the
next
portion
of
this
presentation
by
the
inspector
general's
office.
A
At
present,
and
ever
since
the
pandemic
started,
the
department
is
struggling
to
perform
enough
of
its
mission-related
tasks
to
maintain
an
acceptable
risk
profile,
secure
its
facilities
and
ensure
safe
operations
at
sustainable
operational
levels
in
the
department's
southern
region.
This
is
a
growing
but
moderate
challenge
mitigated
by
manageable
levels
of
overtime
in
the
department's
northern
region
and
rural
areas.
However,
this
challenge
has
become
exceptionally
difficult.
A
Northern
and
rural
custody
officer
staffing
vacancies
are
at
an
all-time
high.
At
some
locations
they
now
exceed
50
percent
of
their
legislatively
approved
staffing
complement
their
overtime
workload.
Stress
is
so
high
that
demanding
more
overtime
at
those
locations
can
be
dangerously
counterproductive.
A
Based
upon
key
metrics
analyzed
during
the
most
recently
completed
pay
period,
the
average
overtime
required
per
available
uniform
staff
member
at
the
northern
nevada
correctional
center
exceeded
18
hours
per
week
before
the
department
completed
three
phases
of
workload.
Balancing
efforts
at
warm
springs
correctional
center
in
may
2022.
A
A
By
doing
so,
the
state
would
avoid
a
top-line
wage
increase
and
the
wage
inflation
that
it
would.
That
would
make
it
worse
for
nevadans,
while
incentivizing
the
retention
and
current
correctional
personnel
and
the
acquisition
of
new
candidates
with
a
more
long-term
oriented
retirement
benefit
and
greater
take-home
pay,
which
would
be
much
more
competitive
in
today's
environment.
A
Second,
the
department
needs
assistance
with
gaining
technology
that
would
make
lower
levels
of
staffing
safer
given,
given
that
even
the
with
improved
wages
and
benefits
in
the
post-pandemic
world,
corrections
may
never
again
see
most
of
its
vacancies
filled.
A
Now
imagine
how
much
safer
those
tablet-enabled
staff
members
and
offenders
would
be
if
we
also
spent
the
resources
to
centrally
operate
fixed
and
mobile
video
devices
to
provide
real-time
universal
surveillance.
That
is
enhanced
with
behavior
driven
offender,
accountability
and
crime
detection
software.
F
Good
morning,
chair
scheible,
our
sorry
good
afternoon
get
cherished.
I
want
the
esteemed
members
of
the
standing
committee
on
the
judiciary.
My
name
is
brian
shields
and
I
am
a
supervisory
criminal
investigator
with
the
nevada
department
of
corrections
office
of
the
inspector
general.
I'm
going
to
be
discussing
some
statistics
on
security
incidents
that
have
occurred
within
the
department
for
calendar
year,
2021
I'll
also
be
discussing
use
of
force
grievance
handling
and
the
stats
related
to
them.
F
I
would
like
to
break
down
the
stats
on
various
conflicts
that
have
occurred
within
the
department
during
the
2021
calendar
year.
As
I
go
along
with
the
following
areas,
I
want
to
point
out
the
ndoc
uses
the
american
correctional
association,
definitions
and
guidelines
for
the
tracking
of
these
incidents.
The
american
corrections
association
is
a
commission
on
accreditation
for
corrections
using
their
definitions,
ensures
that
we
are
consistent
in
the
tracking
of
our
events,
I'll
be
starting
with
the
fender
on
offender
incidents
and
the
go
to
offender
on
staff.
F
Response
to
the
legislative
council
bureau
audit
this
year,
divisions
within
the
department,
including
the
inspector
general's
office,
are
creating
a
new
procedure
for
review
of
federal
grievances
related
to
uses
of
force.
Prior
to
the
lcb
audit,
many
grievances
were
being
assigned
to
the
inspector
general's
office
without
notification
from
the
facilities.
F
The
grievance
tracking
system
needed
to
be
adjusted.
Grievances
are
not
handled
the
same
way
as
incident
reports
or
irs,
which
can
be
referred
to
the
inspector
general
in
the
computer
system.
We
have
known
as
notice.
In
those
cases
the
inspector
general
receives
notification
through
what
we
call
the
cue
that
an
ir
has
been
referred.
F
F
The
inspector
general
is
now
notified
of
all
grievances
that
are
assigned
for
review.
Grievances
are
also
tracked
to
ensure
proper
and
timely
response.
In
addition,
offenders
who
are
soon
to
be
released
from
the
department
are
reviewed
for
open
ig
grievances
and
those
grievances
become
priority
for
response
prior
to
the
offender's
release.
F
This
could
be
made
more
efficient
if
the
grievances
could
be
digitized
into
a
computer
system
also,
if
the
offenders
had
tablets
to
submit
their
agreements,
this
from
the
offenders
could
get
a
faster
response,
as
the
grievances
would
not
need
to
go
through
an
internal
paper
mail
system
to
get
back
to
them
next
slide.
Please.
F
F
As
you
can
see,
all
the
grievances
have
been
responded
to
so
far
for
2022,
the
inspector
general's
office
has
received
11
grievances
on
use
of
force
of
the
11.
One
was
resolved
by
the
institution.
Use
of
force,
review,
seven
will
resolve
by
independent
id
ig
review
and
three
resulted
in
an
investigation
being
opened
again.
The
review
is
working,
but
it
could
be
more
efficient
with
the
implementation
of
offender
tablets
and
computer
tracking
software.
F
F
We
do
refer
criminal
cases
to
the
attorney
general's
office
for
prosecution
and
we
have
secured
convictions.
The
right
thing
to
do
is
to
investigate
excessive
use
of
force
and
hold
those
responsible
to
account.
We
are
transparent
in
this
to
both
you
and
the
public.
I
invite
any
member
of
the
committee
or
the
legislature
to
come
and
see
what
we
do
and
how
we
do
it,
often
with
little
staff
and
resources
with
all
deliberate
effort
into
an
offender's
re-entry
into
society.
F
G
Hi
senator
scheible
in
committee.
I
am
aware
that
there
will
be
some
questions,
so
we
will
certainly
have
some
follow-up,
so
in
closing
our
plans
to
upgrade
security,
ensuring
our
offenders
feel
safe
and
will
participate
in
many
of
our
vocational
training,
educational,
apprenticeships
and
behavioral
programs
is
paramount.
Our
focus
on
preparing
offenders
for
their
eventual
reentry
back
in
the
society
is
aggressive
and
elevated
to
a
level
never
seen
before
in
this
state.
This
is
a
new
corrections
agency.
We
would
have
been
much
further
down
the
line.
G
G
G
We
are
sincere.
We
are
aggressive
about
this.
This
is
not
your
father's
or
anybody
else's
corrections
program.
I
would
not
be
here
if
I
weren't,
given
the
authority
to
move
forward
and
really
make
societal
change.
This
is
not
a
job.
This
is
an
application.
All
the
people
you
see
here
are
the
people
that
are
left.
We
we
ensured
that
the
others
that
did
not
want
to
participate
in
seeing
a
new
society
they
moved
on
with
their
lives
and
careers
and
and
and
and
imparted
upon
other
things.
G
G
If
people
were
to
look
inside
and
see
what
we're
actually
doing
and
actually
come
on
out
and
we
give
invitations
all
the
time,
you
would
be
impressed
a
lot
of
what
you've
heard
with
some
of
these
other
organizations
I
get
it.
They
are
looking
out
for
the
interests,
the
best
interests
of
their
loved
ones
and
families
and
so
on,
but
I'm
going
well
beyond
what
they
had
what
they
expect
we're
going
well
beyond.
G
G
But
once
again,
if
you
come
in
our
in
our
facilities
and
you
are
willing
to
program-
and
that's
only
provided-
that
we
maintain
a
safe
environment,
we
can
get
these
folks
out
and
change
their
lives
and
never
have
them
come
back,
and
that
is
ultimately
the
goal.
I
know
the
taxpayers
of
this
state
don't
want
to
spend
all
of
their
money
having
people
who
have
been
removed
from
society
just
maintaining
them
here.
G
For,
however
long
there
is
a
deep
commitment
for
societal
change,
and
I'm
not
saying
that
loosely,
and
I
can
back
this
up
with
what
we
are
offering
and
what
we
plan
to
do.
Never
before
have
there
been
relationships
with
corrections
and
dealing
with
labor
unions
and
dealing
with
companies
and
trunking
companies
really
trying
to
make
a
change.
G
G
It's
somewhat
disheartening
to
listen
to
some
of
the
descriptors
of
what
people
are
saying
when
we
know
for
a
fact,
all
of
us
that
we
we
don't
want
a
society,
and,
what's
just
us
versus
them
these
folks,
unless
they
have
life
without
parole,
will
be
our
neighbors,
and
I
want
them
to
be
in
the
community,
doing
positive
things
reaching
back,
taking
their
their
loved
ones
or
their
children
or
whether
they
live
in
deprived
social
economic
conditions
and
then
bring
them
out
with
the
dignity
of
a
job
and
a
career,
and
to
be
able
to
show
that,
yes,
you
can
change
your
life
and
make
your
parents
and
your
loved
ones,
proud
of
you,
so
senator
scheible
and
the
committee.
G
We
are
certainly
prepared
to
respond
to
any
questions
you
have.
Thank
you.
E
All
right,
thank
you
so
much
and
we
appreciate
you
bringing
in
all
the
subject
matter
experts
I
I
know
that
I
have
a
list
here.
I
think
it's
reflected
on
our
click
on
the
agenda
as
well.
E
Okay,
well,
hopefully
you
guys
were
taking
notes,
otherwise
I
can
help
you
out.
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
quick
note
that
we
also
heard
from
dr
david
green
who's
technically
part
of
agenda
item
number
six.
We
were
thinking
that
we'd
address
mental
health
issues
together,
but
it
makes
perfect
sense
to
have
heard
from
him
during
the
department
of
corrections
presentation.
E
So
we
appreciate
that,
and
at
this
point
we
are
going,
I
am
going
to
open
it
up
to
questions
for
any
members
of
the
committee
to
any
members
of
the
department
of
corrections,
staff
who
have
presented
so
far,
which
I
think
is
everybody,
and
I
will
start
up
here
in
las
vegas
who
would
like
to
go.
First.
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
have
a
crap
ton
of
questions
so
director
daniel
says:
if
it's
okay
with
you,
what
I'll
propose
to
do
is
just
ask
all
the
questions
that
I
have
and
then
whatever
ndoc
is
prepared
to
be
able
to
answer
today,
fantastic
anything
you
all
cannot
answer
today.
The
committee
would
appreciate
follow-up.
H
First
question
is
how
many
prisoners,
let's
say
in
2021,
have
actually
left
with
a
job
out
of
prison,
leaving
with
the
job
in
hand.
G
H
Why
do
we
project
all
time
credits
forward
with
the
rosiest
outcome?
That
way
I
mean
prisoners
are
only
seeing
their
their
projected
date.
Go
in
the
wrong
direction
seems
to
me
we
might
want
to
start
with
here's.
If
you
had
no
good
time
credits
when
you'd
get
out,
then
prisoners
can
see
their
date
tick
in
the
right
direction.
But
that's
that's
a
question.
H
Is
the
department
prepared
to
start
reporting
use
of
force
use
of
force
incidents
to
the
department
of
public
safety
pursuant
to
sb
212,
where
we're
going
to
now
have
a
statewide
database
and
doc
is
supposed
to
be
participating
in
that.
H
H
H
I
looked
at
the
another
time
credit
question:
I
looked
at
the
the
one
of
the
examples
they
were
on
parole
and
were
violated,
so
they
went
back
and
then
they
were
not
able
to
get
good
time
credits
moving
forward.
It
seemed
like-
and
I
want
to
just
make
sure
that's
correct-
that
parole
probation
said
you
can't
get
good
time
credits
for
the
next
two
years
and
if
they
can
do
that,
why
is
that
a
statutory
thing
we
might
want
to
look
at
that?
H
What
are
the
institutional
changes
that
ndoc
is
making
per
the
audits
that
were
done
by
lcb
and
we'll
probably
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
later,
and
I
I
heard
some
small
things
like
an
informal
process
that
was
put
in.
Why
not
a
formal
process?
Why
aren't?
Are
there
any
formal,
big
changes
that
are
made
in
responses
to
both
the
concessions
issue
and
the
use
of
force
audits?
G
Thank
you
senator
harris.
I
would
ask
that
you
repeat
those
I
we
have
several
individuals
that
are
taking
notes
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
we
absolutely
positively
know
what
you're
seeking
so
we
can
respond
accordingly,.
H
H
H
What
are
the
institutional
changes
that
ndoc
is
making
in
response
to
the
audits,
and
why
was
there
an
informal
process,
as
opposed
to
a
more
formal
one,
put
in
place
for
the
the
use
of
force
reporting.
G
G
Sheriff
scheible
and
the
committee
this
is
director
daniels
for
the
record.
We
more
than
likely
can
answer
most
of
the
questions
right
now.
So,
if
you
don't
mind,
I
will
have
various
individuals
come
up
and
speak
to
what
they
know.
We
do
know
of
two
areas
that
we're
definitely
going
to
have
to
get
back,
because
we
need
to
confer
with
actual
raw
numbers,
and
we
also
need
to
come
up
with
a
span
of
time
in
which
we
want
to
report.
G
So
if
you
don't
mind,
I
will
have
deputy
director
bill
gitter,
he
runs
operations
and
he
will
answer.
He
will
also
tell
you
the
question
that
he's
responding
to
and
providing
answers
so
I'll
yield
the
floor
to
deputy
director
bill
gator
bill.
A
A
On
march
15th
of
this
year
I've
been
the
deputy
director
of
operations.
Since
december
we
were
doing
a
tour
of
southern
desert
and,
contrary
to
what
we
heard
in
some
of
the
public
comments,
the
inmates
were
not
locked
up.
I
was
doing
a
tour
that
had
been
planned.
I
was
with
staff,
members
and
inmates,
and
it
I
discovered
that
many
of
the
almost
all
of
the
hand,
washing
stations
in
their
culinary
did
not
have
hot
water.
A
A
So
between
myself
and
the
warden
we
came
up
with
a
plan
and
within
just
a
couple
of
days
we
resolved
the
issue
by
using
some
small
six
gallon
water
heaters
that
were
plumbed
into
every
one
of
those
sinks
so
that
we
could
get
hot
water
to
those
things
you
know
quickly,
just
like
you
would
for
yeah
at
home.
So
why
did
it
go
on
so
long?
A
We
look
into
it.
It
doesn't
matter
where
it
comes
from.
I
want
to
solve
problems.
So
that's
that's
the
that's
the
story
behind
it.
Oh
the
other
part
of
that
complaint
was
that
there's
no
hot
hot
water
to
wash
dishes.
Well,
that's
by
design.
We
use
a
cold
water,
washing
system
with
a
chemical
sanitizer
to
save
energy,
and
so
that's
the
way
that's
designed
to
work
in
that
part
of
it.
H
Is
the
cold
water
system
effective
because
it
wasn't
just
that
there
was
no
hot
water
to
clean
them?
It's
that
the
trays
also
resulted
in
not
being
cleaned,
so
we
won't
get
into
it
too
much
because
I've
already
I've
asked
like
seven
questions,
and
you
know
we
can
go
back
and
forth
and
chat
about
this
later.
I
just.
I
hope
that
whatever
the
the
cause
was
not
the
plumbing
part,
but
the
the
lacking
communication
or
the
ability
for
it
to
persist
for
so
long
has
been
fixed
whatever
that
issue
is
anyway.
H
I
would
hope
that
that's
that's
been
addressed,
because
my
guess
is
that
there
are
probably
similar
things
going
on
in
other
facilities
that
we
may
not
be
aware
of,
for
whatever
reason
it
was
that
we
weren't
aware
of
the
hot
water.
So
but
okay,
thank
you
appreciate
that
response.
We
can
move
on
to
the
next
issue.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
man
regarding
the
changes
that
we've
made
since
the
audit
regarding
use
of
force.
There
have
been
many
the
the
use
of
force
review
process
in
administrative
regulation,
405
use
of
force,
405.12
and
1
3
is
a
formal
process
for
reviewing
all
uses
of
force
that
happen
in
anywhere
in
our
system.
A
There
are
two
levels
to
that
process.
One
is
the
incident
review
and
the
other
is
the
serious
incident
review.
It
has
been
a
process
in
place
since
2016
when
the
former
director
introduced
that
process.
That
process
is
designed
to
review
all
evidence
of
a
use
of
force
in
which
there
is
no
initial
reason
to
suspect
that
it
was
either
excessive
or
unnecessary
if
at
any
time
we
believe
a
use
of
force
is
excessive
or
unnecessary.
A
It
is
automatically
per
that
policy
off-ramp
to
the
inspector
general's
office
for
an
independent
review,
so
that
and
that
formal
process
still
exists
today.
A
A
You
can
read
that
for
yourself,
but
we've
reduced
that
time
down
to
the
average
of
17
days
per
per
incident
review
for
that
type
of
review.
So
now
we're
in
the
ballpark
of
getting
them
right.
A
Every
time
there
are
a
couple
that
were
done
in
just
a
couple
of
days
and
a
couple
that
were
done
over
the
20-day
limit,
but
the
we're
down
down
to
doing
them
adequately
doing
them
right
and
within
17
days,
without
the
incidents
happening
so
that
that's
been
and
that's
been
formalized
or
that
I've
been
doing
doing
that
individually
by
hand
with
a
calendar
system
in
cooperation
with
the
people,
who've
been
submitting
all
the
institutions
now
I'm
working
with
our
omd
or
I'm
sorry,
working
with
our
it
department
to
develop
that
into
a
process
so
that
it's
done
directly
in
notice.
A
A
The
other
things
we
changed
pursuant
to
that
that
audit
there,
the
finding
was
that
we
hadn't
purchased
weapons,
munitions
and
ammunition
correctly
for
the
time
period
that
they
did
the
review.
A
In
order
to
make
that
better,
we
have
formally
introduced
the
process
of
a
munitions
committee
which
is
compromised
of
myself
and
four
wardens,
also
a
member
of
our
of
our
fiscal
department,
so
that,
before
the
purchase
of
any
weapons,
ammunition
or
munitions,
we
meet
and
ensure
that
we're
buying
it
correctly.
We're
justifying
it
correctly,
and
you
know,
following
our
department's
policy
regarding
the
use,
the
use
and
storage
of
of
those
items.
A
H
No
you're
you're
doing
you're
doing
a
fantastic
job.
Are
you
prepared
to
comply
with
212
and
and
report
these
use
of
force
incidents
to
the
department
of
public
safety
once.
H
Okay,
perfect
and
then
I
think
the
other
question
is
response
to
the
concessions
audit.
A
F
Good
afternoon
brian
shields,
for
the
record,
it's
a
very
simple
answer.
Yes,
we
are
absolutely
ready
to
prepare
to
submit
that
data
required
by
sb212.
I
I
was
reading
through
the
the
law
on
there
and
it
requires
some
other
reporting.
I
believe
so.
We
and
I
believe,
it's
also
annually
and
monthly.
So
we
will
be
prepared
to
put
that
data
together
and
submit
it
to
some
repository
as
required.
H
G
Thank
you
very
much
for
reminding
me
about
the
mike.
Yes,
I
do
have
a
person
here
that
can
answer
very
directly
to
your
case
to
your
questions
regarding
commissary
and
at
this
time,
I'd
like
to
turn
this
on
over
to.
J
I'm
catherine
reynolds,
I'm
the
chief
of
purchasing
and
inmate
services
for
nevada
department
of
corrections.
Excuse
me,
I
decided
I
wouldn't
be
nervous
than
I
am
so
since
the
audit
we
have
been
gathering
data
about
what
the
other
locations
charge.
We
are
putting
things
together
for
the
legislative
session
that
is
coming
up.
We
can
provide
you
with
some
more
data.
J
I
took
extensive
notes
when,
when
the
other
group
was
up
here
talking
about
the
complaints
that
they
had
and
some
of
the
charges
that
they
believe
are
happening
or
not
believe
they're
happening,
and
we
I'm
prepared
to
put
a
list
together
so
that
you
have
a
good
list
of
what
we
actually
charge
for,
because
we
don't
charge
for
a
lot
of
things.
So.
H
J
So
one
of
the
things
that
we're
up
against
right
now-
and
it
truly
is
due
to
the
pandemic
as
supply
chain
issues.
I
did
get
hold
of
our
commissary
supervisor.
While
we
were
in
the
middle
of
this
session
to
ask
him
what
was
going
on.
Currently,
it
is
the
time
of
the
year
when
keefe,
who
is
our
commissary
vendor
comes
through,
and
we
reassess
what
we're
charging
for
all
of
the
items
and
can
do
a
price
increase.
J
We've
kind
of
held
off
on
that
because
of
the
audit,
but
he
did
inform
me,
for
instance,
that
they
just
got
a
notification
from
keefe
today
that
one
of
our
most
popular
items,
the
ramen,
which
the
inmates
really
love
our
cost-
is
going
up.
21
on
that.
If
we
continue
to
carry
it
so
our
con,
our
decisions
are
going
to
be.
Are
we
going
to
carry
those
items
when
we
know
that
we
would
have
to
increase
the
price?
Or
do
we
discontinue
the
item?
H
I
okay,
so
director
daniels.
Can
I
what
what
information
could
be
presented
to
to
you
all
that
would
lead
to
the
decision
that
we
need
to
take
a
bigger
loss
as
opposed
to
not
offering
new
ramen
anymore
or
right.
I
understand
the
costs
are
high,
but
you
know
from
what
I've
heard
and
what
I've
seen
it's.
It's
not
that
we're
it's
just
high
across
the
country
we're
higher
than
everyone
else.
H
G
Well,
senator
harris
I
can
commit
right
now
we
can
reduce
those
costs
as
long
as
we
can
pay
for
the
items
that
we
sell
and
as
long
as
we
can
fund
the
program,
I
have
no
issue
with
lowering
the
price
I'm
not
seeking
to
gouge
or
make
a
huge
profit.
We
just
want
to
be
able
to
pay
for
the
program
and
address
the
incidentals.
So
what
I
can
share
with
you
right
now.
G
I
have
no
issue
going
back
and
if
there
would
be
a
shortfall,
I
would
ask
that
the
full
assembly
and
one
the
legislature
itself
understand
that
we
may
have
to
come
asking
for
a.
G
But
in
full
disclosure
I
have
zero
issue
with
reducing
the
price
I
just
have
to
ensure
that
we
can
fund
the
program
and
that
we're
still
able
to
pay
for
our
staff
and
pay
for
all
the
other
incidentals
of
which
I
don't
know
all
the
particulars.
But
I
will
tell
you
what
I'm
not
sticking
to
a
particular
number,
quite
frankly,
in
terms
of
percentage.
G
G
So
I
will
personally
involve
myself
and
understanding
it
a
little
bit
more
and
when
we
can
make
cuts,
we
will
and
if
we
can't,
I
don't
have
any
issue
with
communicating
directly
with
the
commission
with
this
committee
and
letting
you
know
what's
going
on
and
why
this
is
not
a
secretive
process
and
if
it
has
been
prior
to
my
rival,
understanding,
we've
been
in
covert
pretty
much
all
but
two
months
since
I
started
I
would
I
don't
have
any
issue
with
it.
G
E
I
just
want
to
ask
a
clarifying
question
because
you
said
that
you're
fine,
with
reducing
the
price
as
long
as
we
can
still
cover
the
cost
of
the
program,
and
so
when
you
say
the
program,
are
you
referring
just
to
the
commissary
program?
Or
are
you
utilizing
the
profits
from
the
commissary
to
pay
for
other
programming.
G
E
You
and
the
reason
that
I'm
asking
is
that
I
want
some
clarity
for
the
committee
on
whether
you
know
when
we
budget,
as
as
a
legislative
body,
and
we
you
know,
make
allocations
from
the
general
fund
to
cover
the
cost
of
salaries
for
employees
of
the
department
of
corrections.
Are
we
expecting
a
certain
amount
of
money
to
come
in
through
the
commissary
program
to
cover
salaries
and
these
contracts?
E
And
you
know
you
mentioned
the
price
of
buying-
you
know
actually
buying
the
the
goods
that
are
sold
at
the
commissary
or
are
we?
Are
we,
depending
on
the
commissary,
being
a
profitable
business
in
order
to
run
other
part,
other
programs
or
other
aspects
of
the
part
of
the
department
of
corrections?
I'm
not
sure
if
you
can
answer
that
right
now,
but
maybe
you
can.
J
I
could
answer
part
of
that,
but
I
would
prefer
to
give
you
a
thorough
answer.
If
you
don't
mind,
I
think
I
would
rather
go
do
an
analysis
and
actually
send
that
to
you.
So
you
can
see
exactly
what
we're
charging,
how
much
revenue
is
coming
in,
what
the
costs
are
currently
and
projected
costs,
because
we
have
some
contracts
that
are
coming
up
for
renewal
that
are
out
for
rfp
right
now,
and
those
costs
are
expected
to
increase.
So.
E
G
Mind
as
I
would
I
believe,
chief
whitmar
up
in
offender
management
he's
the
offender
management
administrator
he's
the
one
that
great
gave
that
great
course
on
time
credits
I
would
like
for
him
to
take
over
and
explain
the
parole
violation,
good
time
credits
as
well
as
the
the
type
of
appeal
process.
We
have
chief
woodmar.
H
H
C
C
I
appreciate
you
letting
us
off
the
hook
a
little
easy
on
the
one
question
senator
harris,
as
as
it
relates
to
projections,
I'm
going
to
turn
the
the
microphone
over
to
holly
skullstad
my
case
planning
specialist
and
for
her
to
help,
hopefully
provide
further
explanation
as
to
why
we
project
credits
forward.
I
My
name
is
holly
skullstad,
for
the
record.
I
too
didn't
realize
I
would
be
nervous
in
order
to
project
the
parole
eligibility
date.
We
project
the
time
forward.
H
H
Would
it
not
be
possible
to
on
the
back
end
yes
track
them
projected
forward,
so
that
you
can
notify
parole
in
enough
time,
but
not
show
the
prisoner
a
date
that
will
inevitably
be
stretched
out?
Let's
say:
if
just
for
one
month,
they
don't
earn
all
of
their
good
time
credits
right.
So
is
there
the
ability
to
for
reporting
purposes?
I
I
H
I
appreciate
that,
thank
you
and-
and
I
hope
we'll
have
continue
to
have
this
conversation,
but
you
know
I'm
not
a
social
scientist,
but
just
from
my
own
kind
of
mental
exercise,
if
I
was
in
prison-
and
I
only
saw
that
date
moving
further
and
further
away
right,
that
would
do
something
to
my
psyche
versus.
I
know
this
is
my
date,
but
oh
wait.
I
earned
time
credits
and
now
my
date
has
moved
closer.
Oh
wait,
I
earned
some
more
credits
and
now
my
date
has
moved
closer
as
opposed
to
oh
man.
H
I
didn't
get
any
credits
last
month
and
now
my
date
has
been
kicked
forward
right
I
mean,
I
just
think
just
inspirational
wise.
I
mean
it
might
be
better
to
show
them.
This
is
your
date.
If
you
didn't
earn
any
more
good
time
credits
today
right
and
then
they
can
see
that
date
get
closer
and
closer
as
they
earn
credits,
but
that's
just
one
suggestion
and
if
we
need
statutory
change
or
if
we
just
need
to
have
discussions
about
like
what
the
report
looks
like
right,
maybe
we
don't
even
need
a
statutory
change.
G
Hi
senator
harris
this
is
director
daniels
again,
if
I
may,
this
is
my
fourth
system
in
corrections
in
my
35th
year
and
when
you
look
at
the
other
systems
and
I
spent
28
years
in
the
federal
system,
their
sentence
computations
are
fairly
similar,
but
what
they
provide
you
with
is
your
full
term
date.
Worst
case
scenario
date.
This
is
when
you're
going
together.
If
you
lose
all
of
your
time,
then
they,
but
they
go
back
and
they
give
you
your
parole
eligibility
date
which
is
called
their
one
third
date.
G
Then
they
provide
your
two-thirds
date.
That's
when,
based
on
federal
sentencing,
you're
going
to
have
to
at
least
do
that
piece,
then
you
can
get
out
and
you're
on
your
way,
but
you
can
appear
before
the
parole
board
or
prior
to
that.
It
may
be
simpler,
just
to
write
it
and
put
dates
that
are
applicable.
Your
full
term
data
is
your
worst
case
scenario.
Your
eligibility
when
you
can
go
your
eligibility
date
is
fine.
You
get
to
be
eligible
at
this
particular
time.
G
It
would
be
the
two
thursday,
but
to
be
able
to
appear
before
any
of
the
various
boards
parole
probation
whatever
it
may
be,
all
of
that's
listed
and
because
it
is
complicated,
it's
literally
earned
day
per
day
in
most
of
the
other
systems
just
like
here,
but
so
the
the
the
offenders
just
want
to
worst
case
scenario.
I'm
just
goofball,
but
I
don't
commit
another
crime.
G
This
is
the
worst
case
scenario
all
right,
but
if
I
play
my
cards
right,
my
statutory
release
date
will
be
here
and
they
know
it
will
fall
somewhere
in
between
there
and
most
of
them.
I
think
just
they
communicate.
They
talk,
they're
familiar
with
that,
but
the
day
for
day
thing
it's
hard,
because
there's
so
many
different
types
of
credit
that
they
can
earn.
It
is
complicated.
G
So
maybe
I
wouldn't
mind
working
with
my
team
and
see
if
we
can
come
up
with
recommendations
so
that
won't
it
won't
be
so
complicated
and
you're
right.
It
may
just
be
a
situation
where,
if
we
have
a
program
that
can
produce
a
date
that
says
you're
full
term
and
then
your
earliest
release
date
and
depending
on
how
you
pay
attention
to
detail
you're
good
to
go.
But
in
this
once
again
my
fourth
system
they're,
all
relatively
the
same,
and
I
think
it's
a
workable
situation.
H
All
right,
thank
you.
I
think
we
still
got
the
appeal
process
left.
If
there
is
one
and
then
that's
my
last
question
on
time
credits
and
then
we
just
have
the
one
question
on
how
many
prisoners
leave
jobs
leave
with
jobs.
G
H
H
How
does
how
does
someone
appeal
your
your
calculation
of
their
credits?
Let's
you
know
if
they
don't
have
good
time
and
they
think
they
should
have
it
or
if
they
didn't
get
credit
for
a
program
that
they
completed.
How
do
you
go?
How
does
how
does
someone
go
about
appealing
your
calculation
of
their
time
or
is
there
an
appeal
process
at
all.
C
Kirk
whidmar
for
the
record
senator
thank
you
for
your
question
and
your
clarification.
The
at
the
initial
stages.
It's
that
with
that
that
unit
case
worker
sitting
down
and
saying
hey,
I've
earned
these
credits.
I
here
are
my
certificates.
Here
are
these
things
and
I'm
not
seeing
them,
and
the
case
worker
and
the
offender
go
over
that
credit
report
to
say:
hey:
oh
you,
you
are
correct
and
then
it's
a
simple
notification
to
our
division
through
that
caseworker
and
the
credits
are
applied.
C
We
have
those
correspondents
come
in
all
the
time
where
they
they
ask
for
clarification
related
to
their
their
credit
application,
and
we
will
research
at
our
level
outside
the
institutions
at
the
central
office
to
to
see
if
the
the
the
concern
of
the
the
offender
is
of
credit,
a
credit
bill
or,
if
they're,
just
mistaken,
and
need
further
explanation.
C
If
those
two
systems
fail,
then
there
is
the
grievance
process
and
the
offender
can
submit
the
agreements
of
the
informal
first
and
second
level
grievance.
Second,
second
level:
grievances
related
to
time
calculation
sentence
management.
They
all
come
through
my
division
and
there
is
that
process
as
well.
So
there
absolutely
is
an
appeal
process,
I'm
here
to
tell
you
senator
ninety
percent
of
the
time
it's
a
simple
communication
between
the
caseworker
and
the
offender
and
a
simple
email
that
goes
off
to
our
records.
Division
and
corrections
are
made.
G
Senator
harris
you're
absolutely
right
and
we
agree
it's
one
of
those
issues
that
we've
brought
up,
because
it's
a
funding
issue
in
terms
of
what
we
spoke
about
earlier
in
the
presentation
regarding
us
coming
up
with
the
universal
system
that
will
allow
all
of
our
systems
to
talk,
and
we
can
communicate
very
directly
with
the
offender
and
they
have
access
to
information
pertaining
to
themselves.
Right
now,
it's
pulling
files,
it's
hoping
somebody
didn't
write
down
something
wrong
or
there's
typos.
G
G
Well,
working
on
that
conceptually,
we
know
we
want
to
do
it,
but
once
again,
there's
going
there's
a
cost
factor
that
I
can't
particularly
pretend
it
doesn't
exist.
There's
a
lot
of
cost
involved
in
some
of
this,
because
everything
right
now,
for
instance,
electronic
medical
records-
we
all
have
them
at.
We
use
it
at
home
and
our
doctors-
we
don't
have
it
so
for
us
to
be
to
work
more
expeditiously,
be
able
to
find
information
out.
Look
at
someone's
history.
G
We
just
need
to
put
everything
together
electronically,
and
I
do
believe
that
deputy
director
lucas
spoke
to
that
with
her
charts
and
so
on,
and
you
have
a
copy
of
it.
But
if
you
like
to
have
further
dialogue,
I'm
I'm
of
course
very
open
to
it.
We
want
these
systems
to
be
improved,
there's
nothing
worse
than
a
person
having
to
stand
outside
of
office
and
beg
for
somebody
to
talk
to
them,
but
that
person's
out
then
they
get
frustrated.
G
G
H
G
We
provided
our
priorities,
of
which
that
is
a
part
of
it
we're
waiting
to
see
whether
or
not
it
will
be
funded
or
moved
forward,
so
that
the
legislature
can
take
a
look
at
it,
but
it's
definitely
well.
Let
me
tell
you
right
now:
it's
actually
number
one
in
our
request.
That's
how
important
it
is
for
us
to
get
ourselves
together
electronically.
H
D
For
the
record
bill
clinton,
deputy
director
of
prison
industries,
industrial
programs-
I
would
have
to
get
back
to
you
senator
for
2021.
I
want
to
clarify
which
year
you're
talking
about.
I
would
have
to
get
with
our
offender
management
and
also
with
deputy
director
williams.
So
we
can
collaborate
and
pull
that
data
up
and
submit
it
to
you.
H
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
any
full
years
worth
of
data.
I
picked
2021
because
it's
the
most
recent,
but
if
you
want
to
give
me
the
last
five
years
or
an
average
or
whatever
that'd
be
great,
I'm
just
hoping
the
number
is
larger
than
zero.
So.
G
Oh,
it's
definitely
larger
than
zero.
Oh
yes
thank
you
and
if
I
may,
if
I
may
we're
deeply
committed
to
our
our
offenders,
leaving
with
the
job
I
want
to
get
to
the
day
in
which
they
don't
leave
and
go
to
see
their
po,
they
leave
and
go
to
their
job
and
they're
in
their
housing.
That's
right
near
there
and
we
have
a
public
private
partnership
and,
by
the
way,
we're
working
towards
that
goal
substantially.
This
isn't
just
conceptually.
G
E
Thank
you
and
I
think
assemblymember
marzola
had
a
question
or
two
go
ahead.
I
G
I
do
have
dr
manev
here
and
he
has
his
team.
I
want
to
see,
if
he's
prepared,
to
answer
that
now,
if
he
needs
to
get
back.
Dr
minette.
K
Sorry,
michael
minev,
medical
director
for
ndoc,
could
you
repeat
your
question?
Please
yeah.
I
Absolutely
so
we
had
a
presentation
earlier
and
we
were
made
aware
that
incarcerated
individuals
were
accumulating
medical
copay
debt.
So
my
question
is
what
is
going
what's
happening
with
that
debt
once
they
are
released.
K
I
am
not
aware
of
what
happens
with
the
debt
that's
accumulated.
We
do
have
a
medical
administrator,
russell
funnel.
That
might
be
able
to
speak
to
that,
and
I
would
be
happy
to
try
to
gather
that
information
for
you.
K
G
Hi
this
is
director
daniels
again,
we
actually
have
russ
alfano
he's
administrator
medical
administrator
and
he
is
familiar
with
that
data
and
he's
up
in
carson
city
right
now.
So
if
you
don't
mind
I'll,
have
him
approach.
L
Thank
you
director
and
chair
sheepy.
This
is
russ
alfono
for
the
record
medical
administrator
for
the
department
of
corrections,
the
medical
debt.
We
do
not
deal
with
in
the
medical
department
itself.
L
I
L
K
This
is
michael
minnow,
medical
director
for
the
the
record
I
just
wanted
to
clarify.
There
were
some
comments
made
earlier
in
regards
to
copays
that
were
charged
during
the
pandemic.
Just
to
clarify
there
are
no
copays
to
offenders
for
chronic
care
conditions,
so
chronic
medical
care
conditions
such
as
hypertension,
diabetes,
copd,
etc.
There
is
no
copay
charge
for
our
medical
staff
to
care
for
offenders
for
those
medical
conditions
as
well
as
there
was
no
co-pays
charged
to
offenders
for
any
coveted,
related
medical
conditions,
evaluations
testing,
none
of
those
incurred,
any
co-pays.
I
K
There
are
many:
yes,
there
are
co-pays
for
prescription
medications.
There
are
co-pays
for
man,
downs,
the
the
charge
for
the
man.
Downs
depends
on
the
the
the
condition
that
the
offender
suffered,
whether
it
was
a
a
an
altercation,
a
recreational
injury
or
self-injury,
and
there
is
a
fluctuation
in
the
price
of
those
copays,
depending
on
what
type
of
medical
care
was
provided,
whether
imaging
or
other
labs
or
other
further
medical
diagnostics
might
have
been
incurred.
K
So
that's
why
you
see
kind
of
a
range
in
the
in
the
in
the
charge,
and
you
know
some
some
advocates
were
were
quoting
some
numbers.
You
know
fifty
hundred
dollars,
etc.
The
reason
why
there's
a
variability
in
those
charges
is
because
in
in
many
instances,
diagnostics
are
included
within
that
charge.
I
L
Madam
chair
for
the
record
russ
alfano,
medical
administrator,
I'm
prepared
to
answer
copay
questions.
Dr
minev
is
more
focused
on
on
the
clinical
aspect
of
things.
The
dollars
and
cents
come
through
the
central
office
up
here
in
carson
city
copays.
The
base
copay
charge
is,
hopefully
everybody
can
hear
me
all
right.
Kobe
charges
are
set
out
in
our
operating
procedure
041
and
in
compliance
with
our
administrative
regulation.
245.
L
eight
dollars
is
our
standard
copay
for
non-chronic
care.
There
are
outlined
in
041,
which
I
can
gladly
provide
with
to
this
to
this
body.
It
it
states
those
things
that
are
exempt
from
copays,
such
as
intake
physicals,
periodic
physicals,
a
pair
of
eyeglasses
every
two
years,
full
set
of
dentures
departure
plates
for
mastication
pill,
call
prenatal
care,
routine,
chart,
lab
x-rays
and
routine
medical
records,
chronic
care
prophylactic
treatment
for
tuberculosis
body,
allows
treatment,
psychiatry,
etc.
L
There's
there's
a
really
comprehensive
and
concise
list.
Like
I
said
I
can
provide
this
to
this
body.
If
that
is
their
their
wish.
Our
base
rate
for
co-pays
is
eight
dollars.
There
is
no
coupon
for
them
to
get
a
prescription.
L
It's
done
during
pill
call
which
is
not
charged
to
copay
the
man
down
co-pays
if
it
needs
to
be
responded
to
by
a
nurse
or
a
licensed,
a
licensed
medical
professional
that
that
charge
is
25.
L
If
it
is
a
man
down
for
the
doctor,
that
would
that
if
it
requires
a
doctor's
care
that
is
50
in
some
parts
and
parcels,
we
try
to
mirror
community
standards
of
seeing
a
specialist,
for
example,
or
such
primarily
the
only
there
that
eight
dollars
is
the
only
copay
that
I
can
think
of
as
a
standard
rate
where
they
were
coming
up.
L
I
believe
some
previous
testimony
heard
this
morning
up
to
150
man
down
for
a
sports
related
injury
that
is
done
under
what
we
call
ab389
back
in
the
day
assembly
bill
349,
which
is
now
in
statute,
209,
246,
subsection,
1,
primarily,
b
and
c.
Those
are
charges
that
are
charged
to
the
inmate
as
a
result
of
injury
to
sports
related,
and
it's
not
a
hundred
and
fifty
dollars.
It's
whatever.
L
The
actual
cost
is
that
the
department
pays
and
we
negotiate
best
rates
through
using
preferred
provider
organizations
and
so
that
we
get
a
discounted
rate
similar
or
below
medicaid
rates,
often
and
the
inmate
is
responsible
if
it's
sports
related
or
if
it's
inmate
on
inmate
altercations
or
self-inflicted.
I
G
Thank
you,
chair
scheible,
I'm
not
necessarily
sure,
if
you're
ready
to
close
this
out,
but
I'd
like
to
just
say
a
brief
word
or
two.
Oh.
G
E
B
Thank
you,
chair
scheible.
My
question
is
to
the
gentleman
that
was
just
speaking
up
north
regarding
the
copays
and
I'd
like
to
address
this
to
him.
If
that
is
okay,
so
is
the
inmate
banking
system?
Is
that
a
function
of
in
doc,
or
is
that
a
function
that
is
outsourced
to
a
private
entity?
Who
would
then
collect
that
debt
and
then
give
a
portion
of
that
back
to
endoc
for
their
services?.
L
Thank
you
for
the
question,
madam
chair,
through
you,
that
is
inmate
banking
system
is
a
nevada
department
of
corrections,
division,
it's
not
outsourced
and
we
don't
get
a
cut
back
from
it.
It's
the
system
just
down
the
hall
from
my
office.
Actually
they
keep
track
of
inmate
accounts
and
are
the
keepers
of
inmate
funds.
B
So
if
I
may
follow
up
chair
scheible,
I'm
sure
that
everybody
in
indock
knew
that
there
was
going
to
be
this
hearing
today.
So
someone
should
be
available
by
phone
text
to
be
able
to
answer.
The
question
are
inmates
leaving
your
custody
with
debt?
That's
that's
the
question.
B
Someone
should
be
able
to
send
you
a
text
and
give
you
an
answer
yes
or
no,
and
I
don't
think
that
we
should
have
to
wait
for
something
in
writing.
That
is
not
reflected
because
the
public
is
watching
and
listening
right
now,
so
they
deserve
to
have
an
answer.
So,
while
you're
getting
that
information,
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
and
they're
pretty
simple.
B
During
the
session
there
was
a
bill
that
was
sponsored
by
senator
harris
about
phone
costs.
That
was
something
that
was
brought
up
in
public
comment
and
in
the
presentation
by
by
return
strong
and
I'd
like
to
know
one
have
those
phone
costs
been
reduced
and
regulated,
as
was
required
by
I
think
it
was
sb
387?
B
Someone
mentioned
that
you
might
be
able
to
have
better
retention.
If
you
fully
funded
pers,
there
was
also
a
comment
about
tech
being
allowed
to
lower
improve
technology,
would
be
able
to
allow
lower
staff
levels
and
that
there
was
something
to
do
with
task
centric,
post
charts,
and
so
since
you
all
mentioned
these
things
to
us,
I
would
like
to
know
what
are
the
costs
associated
with
these
requests
and
how
much
money
are
you
talking
about
that?
B
You
need
and
able
to
institute
these
issues
that
you
believe
will
improve
your
performance
and
last
question
will
be
what
happened
and
what
are
you
all
doing
with
the
reported
profits
of
14
million
dollars?
How
was
that
being
utilized-
and
those
are
my
questions
thanks.
G
Hi,
this
is
director
daniels
for
the
record.
You
asked
several
questions
and
we
will
answer
what
we
can
at
the
moment.
Unfortunately,
four
of
the
folks
that
were
here
are
on
their
way
to
the
airport.
We
ran
a
little
long
and
they
had
return
flights
and
we
will
we're
trying
to
communicate
with
them
via
text
message,
and
hopefully
we
can
get
a
hold
of
them
and
they
can
respond
right
now.
I
also
have
deputy
director
of
william
gidder
deputy
director
getter.
If
you
could
come
on
up
and
we
can
tag
team.
G
All
right,
so
there
were
multiple
questions
they
were
talking
about.
Technology
deputy
director
lucas
is
gone
and
she's
on
her
way
to
the
airport,
but
hopefully
we
can
reach
out
to
her
via
text
message
and
get
the
actual
cost
of
some
of
the
programs
that
we're
deciding
that
we're.
For
instance,
when
we're
looking
at
overwatch,
there
was
a
statement
that
was
referenced,
that
it
would
better
technology
would
assist
us
in
lowering
overall
cost.
G
G
We
can
utilize
multiple
methods
of
technology
to
keep
a
better
eye
on
the
circumstances
on
the
yards
and
in
the
housing
units
and
so
on.
We've
actually
packaged
this
process.
This
program
and
we've
actually
submitted
it
forward
to
be
reviewed
by
the
folks
on
our
side
of
the
house
and
then
move
forward
over
to
the
legislature.
For
you,
you
all
to
take
a
look.
I
don't
have
the
actual
cost
in
front
of
me
down
to
the
penny,
so
I
don't
want
to
give
you
erroneous
information.
G
G
A
I
will
thank
you
director
for
the
record
bill,
gitter
deputy
director
of
operations,
so
first
I'd
like
to
describe
how
the
technology
will
save
money.
Imagine
that
in
a
housing
unit,
you've
got
48
cells,
housing,
96
inmates
that
could
be
out
and
about
on
tier
time
and
going
to
wreck
yard
together
going
to
programming
together.
A
There's
five
officers
authorized
to
be
present
on
a
shift
to
ensure
the
safety
and
security,
the
efficient
efficiency
of
that
unit,
but
instead
of
five
officers,
I
only
have
two
and
I'm
not
making
this
up
that
exists
at
our
northern
facilities,
where
we
can
only
afford
two
officers
in
a
unit
that
really
should
be
staffed
by
five
in
order
to
keep
it
safe.
We
then
decrease
the
the
number
of
inmates
in
a
particular
group,
that's
out
of
their
cells,
and
we
decrease
the
time
that
they're
out
to
tamp
down
the
incidence
of
offenses
in
custody.
A
So
it's
not
about
ours,
it's
not
about
restricting
the
inmates,
because
we
want
to
restrict
the
inmates.
It's
about
mitigating
the
risk
in
the
workplace
in
which
we
all
live
and
work.
Both
the
inmates
and
staff
the
over
I've
operated
this
overwatch
technology
overseas
and
I've
seen
this
over
overwatch
technology
at
the
glendale
police
department
in
real
time,
because
we
went
there
and
we
looked
at
it
to
see
if
we
could
make
it
work
in
our
environment,
and
we
can,
by
doing
that,
we
make
this
officers
that
we
do
have
on
our
staff
safer.
A
B
A
Thank
you
for
your
question.
Actually
glendale
started
small
by
trying
out
the
system
on
a
small
scale
and
they
cut
it
out
of
their
own
budget
and
used
grants,
and
then
over
time
they
explained
that
they
then
proved
the
concept
and
grew
the
budget
and
obtained
other
funds
in
cooperation
with
public
partner
public-private
partnerships.
A
What
I
mean
is
they
explained
that,
in
you
know
we're
talking
about
outside
a
correctional
setting
but
the
same
concept.
They
explained
that
they
went
to
stakeholders
in
the
community.
7-11
and
7-eleven
then
contributed
funds
and
camera
views
to
their
system
and
they
grew
the
system.
In
that
way.
A
Before
it
happens,
that's
priceless,
and
that
has
to
happen
so
to
answer
your
question.
They
started
small.
They
started
with
their
own
small
funds
and
grants
and
then
built
the
system
from
the
ground
up.
To
put,
we
need
that
system
now,
as
I
said
before,
in
our
northern
institutions,
we're
more
than
I'm.
E
Really
sorry
to
interrupt,
but
we're
running
very
behind,
so
I'm
going
to
ask
that
we
move
on
to
the
next
question:
do
you
have
any
more
questions
assembly,
member
summers,
armstrong.
B
E
All
right
anything
else:
assembly,
member
summer's
armstrong.
B
I
still
don't
have
an
answer
to
the
phone
cost,
whether
or
not
the
requirements
in
380
sp
387
have
been
addressed.
B
There
was
a
bill
that
was
put
forth
by
senator
harris.
She
can
probably
speak
to
it
much
better
than
I,
because
it
was
her
bill.
I
just
signed
on
to
it
that
prohibited
excessive
fees
for
phone
calls,
and
one
of
the
comments
that
was
made
by
in
public
comment
and
and
also
by
the
folks
representing,
come
back
strong,
I'm
saying
it
wrong
was
that
it's
extremely
expensive
for
families
to
communicate
by
phone
with
their
loved
ones
who
are
incarcerated,
and
so
my
question
is:
that
was
a
mandate.
B
This
law
that
you
all
deal
with
the
cost
of
phone
calls
not
allowing
them
to
be
exorbitantly
priced,
and
I
want
to
know,
has
that
been
addressed?
Have
you
lowered
the
cost
and
brought
those
costs
in
line
with
what
is
required
in
that
law?.
H
Director
daniel's,
for
once,
I'm
going
to
take
you
out
of
the
hot
seat
instead
of
putting
you
in
it
and
and
help
you
out
a
little
bit
as
a
sibling
woman
summer's
armstrong.
It
is
my
understanding
that
endoc
was
already
under
the
the
the
maximum
amount
that
was
allowed
pursuant
to
the
bill
that
I
passed
last
session,
so
ndoc's
phone
rates
were
not
higher
than
what
the
fcc
has
capped
phone
rates
at,
so
they
would
not
have
to
make
any
changes.
Pursuant
to
that
bill,.
E
All
right,
assemblymember
o'neil:
did
you
have
a
question
or
questions.
M
M
Some
of
them
were
a
little
minor
and
they
were
brought
up
earlier.
One
of
them
was
when
some
of
the
presentation
earlier
today
by
return
strong
or
it
may
have
been
with
nick's
statements,
there's
different
salaries
for
different
jobs
within
the
various
facilities,
such
as,
I
think,
a
barber
and
one
place
earns
five
dollars.
Another
place
earns
tens
another
place.
He
gets
just
time
credits
served.
So
I
was
curious.
How
is
that
determined?
Why
is
there
a
difference
from
facility
to
facility?
M
I
want
to
know
where
the
money
goes
that
has
been
raised
through
the
commissary.
What
is
it
used
for?
How
much
is
there
what's
it
used
for,
and
then
I'm
going
to
get
into
more
of
the
current
discussion
on
staff
vacancies?
We,
it
was
said
that
currently,
there's
a
approximately
27
vacancy
rate
across
the
board.
I'm
curious
in
the
five
years
prior
to
20.
M
so
go
back
to
2015
2014
through
2019.
What
was
the
average
vacancy
rate?
I
would
like
to
see
what
the
changes
were
dealing
with
overwatch
from
what
I
understand
now
listening
to
that's,
not
a
correctional
facility
program,
that's
a
program
being
run
by
law
enforcement
for
out
in
the
general
public
to
watch
public
areas
and
try
to
be
more
responsive
and
proactive
instead
of
being
reactive.
M
So
my
question
is:
have
you
done
an
rfi
on
your
needs
for
such
a
system
to
protect
your
officers
and
the
inmates
themselves
too,
from
assaults,
and
with
that
afterwards,
have
you
done
a
return
on
investment
for
what
it
will
be
savings
and
personnel
and
cut
down?
Hopefully
on
some
of
the
injuries,
the
various
incidents
that
occur?
M
And
last
but
not
least,
I
would
strongly
recommend
that
you
look
at
using
the
american
recovery
program
for
look
for
that
for
funding
for
technology
and
go
before
interim
finance
and
ask
for
that
money
to
proceed
with
it
now,
instead
of
waiting
for
a
later
program
or
come
back
under
general
funding,
so
those
are
some,
but
it's
also
I'd
also
like
to
know
if
what
would
be
the
cost
to
the
state.
If
we
did
fund
the
pers.
M
Money
or
the
dedication
of
pers
the
full
funding
of
the
employees
of
the
correctional
officers.
So
what
would
that
cost
be
to
the
state
and
then,
last
but
not
least,
on
the
use
of
force
or
offenders
incidents.
I'd
like
to
know
some
of
the
definitions
and
the
one
slide
here.
It
says:
assaults
with
no
serious
injury
assaults
with
serious
injuries
assault
by
throwing
substance.
M
There
must
be
a
something
in
between
between
serious
injury
and
no
serious
and
no
injury.
Why
throwing
substance
has
its
own
category?
So
what
does
qualify
for
a
serious
injury
versus
a
no
non
serious
injury
versus
non-injury
would
be
very
simple,
but
then
it
also
goes
to
when
the
use
of
force
report
is
made.
M
It
was
my
understanding
that
was
just
given
earlier
that
the
facility
first
reviews
those
and
makes
the
determination
if
it's
going
to
go
forward
to
the
inspector
general's
office,
and
I
want
that
clarified
to
me
because
also
in
the
slide,
it
talks
about
11
incidences
in
2022.
It
says,
11
were
received,
11
were
reviewed
and
resolved
with
a
review.
M
Seven
were
resolved
with
an
ig
review
and
13
resolve
with
an
investigation
that
doesn't
tell
me
what
how
it
was
resolved.
Why
was
it
resolved
at
a
lower
level?
Why
did
the
dag
or
the
ig
excuse
me
go
in
and
review
it,
and
then
they
resolved
it?
How
was
that
resolved,
and
these
investigations
are
they
still
pending
or
what
was
the
resolution
to
them?
Just
telling
me
that
they're
resolved
just
doesn't
come
clear
to
me,
then.
E
G
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair
I'll.
Go
ahead
and
start
off
with
overwatch.
The
overwatch
program
is
not
a
program.
That's
designed
for
police
departments.
We
just
saw
a
program
that,
for
the
most
part,
that's
what
we're
trying
to
do.
Overwatch
simply
is
us
utilizing
technology
to
fill
in
the
blanks
when
we
don't
have
enough
staff,
so,
for
example,
part
of
it
will
be,
of
course,
our
camera
systems.
G
Part
of
it
will
be
two
locations
where
we
have
staff,
one
being
a
sergeant
or
lieutenant
and
the
other
being
an
ig
person
who
watches
all
the
cameras
throughout
the
state.
When
there's
an
issue
in
any
of
the
units
on
any
of
the
cameras
we
can
tell
by
decibel
level
which
will
alert
us
that
something's
going
on
and
then
we
can
focus
in
on
that
arena.
The
second
thing
is
the
person
the
sergeant
or
so
can
help
direct
activity.
G
Lieutenant
here's
what
happened
before
you
got
there.
This
individual
stabbed
this
individual
they're
inside
of
the
cell.
They've
got
a
weapon
up
under
the
garbage
can
by
the
ice
machine
so
about
helping
to
manage
it.
Also
multiple
people
involved.
We
have
so
few
people
that
can
respond
to
an
emergent
situation.
G
We
need
someone
to
actually
be
able
to
see
and
direct
lifetime
while
that
investigative
person
can
roll
it
back
a
minute
or
so
and
figure
out
what
happened
and
we
use
a
coordinated
effort.
Just
like
you
would
have
an
individual
at
that
facility.
So
we'll
have
rules
that
will
alert
us
to
sound
and
or
speed
of
an
incident
depending
on
the
location.
But
it's
not
just
the
camera
systems.
It's
many
things
more.
G
It's
the
inmates
wearing
rfid
bands
and
we
have
sensors
around
the
facilities
that
tell
us
exactly
where
the
inmate
last
was
and
which
way
they're
moving.
We
can
use
that
to
determine,
for
instance,
if
we
can't
find
him
has
he
escaped?
Did
he
not
report
to
something?
Is
he
missing
also
at
night?
So,
for
instance,
let's
say
we
potentially
have
an
escape.
We
can't
locate
an
individual
we're
going
to
have
to
go
up
on
the
rooftops.
G
G
We've
priced
all
of
the
individual
components
and
we've
actually
started
to
purchase
the
things
that
we
need
to
purchase
that
we
don't
have
to
have
special
permission
and
we
we
purchased
this.
But
if
you're
asking
me
specifically
what
we
presented,
we
have
to
go
through
a
process
and
that
process
has
to
go
through
our
persons
in
the
gfo.
G
G
M
So
you
do
have
the
cost,
which
is
what
my
fellow
assembly
person
summers
armstrong
was
asking
about,
but
I'm
getting
back
to
so
you're
already
buying
technology
for
a
program
that,
when
you
try
to
bring
it
all
together,
may
or
may
not
bridge
together.
So
there
has
been
no
request
put
out
to
the
various
technology
companies
throughout
the
country
for
a
request
for
information
on
what
your
needs
are
and
how
they
can
be
fulfilled,
which
would
also
give
you
a
summary
cost
so
you're
trying
to
build
a
customized
system
instead
of
an
off-the-shelf
system.
G
I
would
say
no,
but
let
me
tell
you
what
the
modification
is,
some
of
the
items
that
we
need.
We
can
purchase
without
any
special
request,
there's
multiple
components
to
it:
some
of
its
cameras,
some
of
its
uavs,
some
of
its
rfid,
some
of
its
facial
recognition
and
it
depending
upon
the
there's.
Some
of
we
can
buy
ourselves.
But
what
we've
done
is
we've
gone
to
various
locations
and
have
had
vendors
come
out
and
demonstrate
their
product
and
based
on
those
demonstrations
we
determine
if
it
fits
our
needs
or
not.
G
We've
gone
through
multiple
demonstrations
through
multiple
companies
and
we're
doing
our
due
diligence
and
just
seeing
if
they
have
what
we
need
and
if
it
will
work
for
us.
We
also
have
to
ensure
that
it's
replicable,
because
it's
a
statewide
initiative
at
multiple
locations,
our
primary
seven
facilities
and
our
10
other
facilities.
G
M
Have
you
worked
with
eats
on
your
development
on
this
technology
development
that
you're,
apparently
building
block
by
block,
not
knowing
what
the
total
design
is?
Is
what
I'm
hearing
that
and
I
apologize
director,
but
that
is
what
I'm
constantly
hearing
from
you
is
that
you
don't
know
what
it'll
finally
look
like,
but
you're
going
to
buy
this
piece
and
then
you're
going
to
buy
this
piece.
M
G
So
we've
made
the
request
to
the
cip
process
that
is
somewhat
time
consuming,
but
we're
also
aware
of
the
individual
components
in
terms
of
what
we
need.
All
of
this
is
one
hundred
percent
about
staff
safety.
We
want
a
comprehensive
program
and
process.
However,
we
will
take
what
we
can
get
primarily
because
our
staff
need
help
they're
out
there
they're
outnumbered.
We
need
to
do
anything
and
everything
we
can
to
improve
their
ability
to
stay
safe.
G
G
We
are
not
lacking
in
our
willingness
and
ability
to
do
the
research
understand
what
we
want,
but
we
also
know
that
there's
nothing
particularly
off
the
shelf.
It's
not
like
a
city
program
that
you
pull
off
the
shelf.
We
have
to
modify
things
that
matter
to
us
and
network
in
a
correctional
environment.
A
Regarding
the
the
question
about
the
serious
versus
non-serious
injuries
and
use
of
force
incidents,
I
guess
I'll
take
two
of
them
I'll
take
take
them
separately,
okay,
so
every
use
of
force
incident
that
occurs
in
our
department
is
entered
into
our
notice
computer
system.
The
inspector
generals
review
all
of
those
incident
reports
daily.
A
A
If
that
doesn't
happen
at
the
institutional
level,
they
look
at.
They
look
at
the
evidence.
The
video
evidence,
the
reports
and
they
feel
that
the
use
of
force
was
justified.
Based
on
that
preliminary
review,
they
don't
refer
it,
and
but
they
do
do
a
review
of
that
a
formal
review
process
of
that
incident
anyway,
if
at
any
time
during
that
review
process
that
happens
within
20
days,
they
find
evidence
to
suggest
that
it
was
either
unnecessary
or
excessive.
They
stop.
They
refer
to
the
ig
and
off-ramp
it
again
for
an
independent
review.
A
A
Then
the
cheney
command
reviews
it.
Initially
they
get
off-ramp
it
and
if
they
don't
off-ramp
it
to
the
ig
refer
to
the
ig,
then
it
goes
for
in
a
use
of
force
review
at
the
local
at
that
institution
regarding
use
of
regarding
serious
versus
non-serious
injuries.
So
the
definitions
are
part
of
the
aca
definitions,
american
correctional
association,
definitions
and
we
use
their
definitions
in
our
database
so
that
we
can
compare
our
statistics
with
other
states
and
nationally
for
trend
analysis.
A
If
a
incident
happens,
a
fight
between
two
inmates
with
no
serious
injuries,
then
that
gets
coded
and
grouped
together
at
a
lower
incidence
rate,
a
less
risky
incident
than
an
incident
that
caused
serious
injury.
Serious
injury
is
defined
in
our
administrative
regulation
405,
and
it
boils
down
to
if
you,
if
you
get
bumps
bruises
and
scratches
you
may
get
stitches.
That
is
not
definition,
a
serious
injury,
but
if
you
break
a
bone
cause
a
head
injury
that
causes
a
a
concussion.
That
is
a
serious
injury.
A
That
definition
is
not
so
set
in
stone
that
you
don't
have
to
reach
out
to
medical
for
a
decision
because
we're
not
you
know
those
guys
and
we
consult
with
medical
when
we
it
isn't
clear.
So
that's
that's
serious
versus
non-serious
injury
and
we
talked
about
the
use
of
force
incidence
review.
Local
versus
the
ig.
Ig's
always
got
overwatch
on
that,
but
we
can
review
them
separately
and
we
do
the
if
we
don't
believe
it's
excessive
or
unnecessary.
G
A
M
A
I
M
Only
has
an
x
number
of
positions
isn't
that
correct.
In
other
words,
you
couldn't
send
a
thousand
inmates
over
there
tomorrow
and
all
have
that
all
have
jobs,
there's
only
a
separate
number
of
jobs
correct.
So
I.
M
I
I
They
have
culinary
arts
classes,
they
have
welding,
they
have
auto
mechanic,
they
have
hvac,
so
there's
a
number
of
different
jobs
that
the
offender
can
participate
in
or
programs
that
they
can
participate
in.
We
also
have
building
and
trades
our
mc3
program,
which
is
an
apprenticeship
program
at
some
of
our
facilities,
which
are
getting
ready
to
get
started
at
women's
as
well.
I
That
teaches
them
the
skills
that
they
need
and,
while
they're
waiting
to
get
in
pi,
they
can
learn
those
skills
while
earning
credits
and
a
certificate
in
our
vocational
programs,
as
well
as
our
maintenance
department
and
culinary
arts.
I
mean
culinary
our
culinary
area
as
well
to
get
the
skills
they
need,
and
then
they
can
leave
those
positions
or
get
their
certificates
in
those
positions
and
then
move
on
to
pi,
depending
on
what
it
is
in
pi,
for
example,
at
southern
desert
correctional
center
as
well
as
nncc.
I
know
they
have
an
asc
program.
I
The
ase
program
is
actually
at
nncc
and
we
also
had
a
model
motor
program
at
high
desert,
so
they
could
be
doing
those
programs
and
then
get
into
pi
and
at
southern
desert.
Pi
has
the
automotive
program,
the
auto
body,
shop,
carpentry,
shop,
glass
and
things
of
that
nature
as
well.
So,
while
they're
waiting
to
get
into
those
pi
program,
there
are
opportunities
for
them
to
gain
certificates
and
knowledge
prior
to
going
into
pi.
M
Excellent.
Thank
that
just
what
I
wanted
to
hear.
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
information.
I
truly
do
appreciate
it
and
then
chair.
The
only
other
questions
I
had
were
the
full
funding
for
the
correctional
officers.
What
that
would
cost
the
state
and
then
also
the
differences
in
the
one
example,
was
in
a
barber
at
the
various
facilities,
makes
gets
time
credit
or
earns
five
bucks
or
earns
10
bucks.
I'm
just
curious
why
the
facility
changes
for
for
what
the
occupation
would
earn.
I
It
while
we're
waiting,
cherish
ibo.
This
is
deputy
director
williams.
Again,
I
have
the
answer
as
it
relates
to
inmates
leaving
the
facility
with
debt.
I
It's
in
one
of
our
administrative,
it's
in
our
administrative
regulation
and
if
I
could
just
read
it
to
you,
because
it
also
cite
site
statute.
If
an
inmate
owes
the
department
charges
debts
after
release,
the
following
procedures
will
be
performed
by
the
inmate
service
banking
crew
to
contact
the
inmate
to
collect
the
money
owed
number
one.
The
isbs
will
send
a
letter
to
the
forwarding
address
provided
by
the
inmate
advising
of
the
amount
due
and
payable
in
full
immediately,
if
not
paid,
admittedly,
and
the
amount
owed
is
considered
uncollectible
by
the
department.
I
I
Madam
chair.
If
I
may
speak,
I'm
kimberly
smith
chief
of
human
resources,
I
believe
assemblyman
o'neil
had
a
question
regarding
vacancy
rates
and
I
can
actually
pull
that
data
for
him.
If
he
would,
he
wants
me
to
go
back
from
2014
to
date.
Was
that
it?
I
need
to
pull
that
when
I
get
back
to
the
office,
so
I
can
definitely
get
that
to
the
committee.
That's.
G
Hi
this
is
director
daniel
we're
trying
to
choreograph
responses,
the
folks
that
have
gone
to
the
airport.
We
can't
communicate
with
right
now
and
we
would
like
the
deference
to
be
able
to
follow
up
and
get
the
specific
questions
answered,
that
you
need.
E
E
It's
okay,
it's
an
important
conversation
assembly.
Member
krasner.
Did
you
have
any
questions
all
right
as
indicated,
we
are
running
behind
schedule,
but
I
know
that
the
people
who
are
presenting
in
the
last
six
agenda
items
have
been
waiting
all
day
to
do
that.
So
I'm
not
gonna
cancel
you,
I'm
not
going
to
push
you
to
another
day.
We
are
going
to
power
through
this.
E
I
did
have
some
questions
for
the
department
of
corrections
that
I
will
take
offline
in
the
interest
of
time,
and
I
was
hoping
so
you
guys
are
finished.
For
now
I
was
hoping
I
could
just
get
kind
of
a
show
of
hands
up
up
north
and
down
south.
How
many
people
are
planning
to
speak
in
public
comment?
E
Okay,
perfect,
so
thank
you
so
much
department
of
corrections.
We
appreciate
you
being
here.
I
know
that
we
will
have
more
questions
for
you
to
follow
up
on,
but
in
the
meantime
we
are
going
to
clip
through
the
last
agenda
items
unless
they
are
urgent
time
sensitive
questions,
I'm
going
to
ask
all
the
members
of
the
committee
to
follow
up
with
everybody
offline
with
their
questions
instead
of
doing
them
during
the
presentations
and
for
all
of
the
presenters.
E
I
am
going
to
ask
you
to
limit
your
comments
to
if
you
can
distill
it
in
about
five
minutes.
I
know
it's
really
short.
I
would
also
be
open
to
adding
some
people
to
the
august
agenda.
I
I
said
I
wasn't
going
to
do
that,
but
we're
running
so
behind.
I
am
changing
course.
Let
me
know
either
when
you
come
up
here
or
you
know,
send
me
a
private
message
but,
like
I
said
we
we
do
try
to
be
respectful
of
your
time
and
the
more
I
drone
on
the
less
we
are.
E
So,
let's
move
on
to
agenda
item
number
six:
do
we
still
have
our
partners
from
carson
city
washoe
county
in
clark
county
to
talk
about
mental
health
issues
and
mental
health
treatment
in
jails
and
prisons?.
O
Members
of
the
committee-
this
is
captain
scott
ankaboni
for
the
sheriff's
office
here
at
washer
county
just
wanted
to
give
a
very
brief
overview
of
the
mental
health
situation
here
at
the
detention
facility
by
the
numbers
for
fiscal
year
2021
we
had
a
total
number
of
bookings
of
14
065
with
an
average
daily
population
of
1
117
inmates.
O
As
of
june
28th.
In
preparation
for
this
presentation,
we
actually
for
the
year
have
reached
a
total,
a
high
total
for
of
1309
inmates
on
june
28th.
If
you
guys
can
see
my
powerpoint,
we
had
1307
inmates
and
year
to
date
for
fiscal
year
22
we
are
averaging
1137
inmates,
which
is
up
120
per
day.
164
of
those
inmates
are
in
our
mental
health
housing
units.
We
have
two
very
full
units
right
now.
We
have.
O
232
inmates
that
have
mental
health
issues
or
are
on
some
sort
of
antipsychotic
or
psychotropic
medication
in
the
general
population,
for
a
total
of
396
inmates
that
are
deemed
mental
health.
Looking
at
our
total
population,
that's
about
30
percent
of
our
population.
Currently
we
do
have
daily
mental
health
visits.
O
As
of
june
28th,
we
had
227
visits
scheduled
that
had
yet
to
be
completed
when
you
look
back
just
10
years
in
july
of
2012,
to
give
you
an
idea
of
how
much
this
portion
of
our
population
has
grown,
we
had
51
total
mental
health
inmates
and
that
was
facility
wide.
So
we've
had
a
huge
increase
in
that
portion
of
our
population.
O
Let's
go
ahead
and
next
slide.
As
far
as
mental
health
services
offered,
we
do
have
a
mental
health
team
comprised
of
now
custody
staff
as
well
as
our
vendor
nafcare.
We
have
a
medical
health
director,
mental
health
discharge,
planner
psych
nurses.
O
We
have
lcsws
on
staff
and
then,
in
addition
to
that,
we
have
a
detention
services
unit
that
does
a
lot
as
we
try
to
move
our
population
as
they
look
toward
release
and
pair
them
up
with
resources.
As
they
are
discharged
from
our
facility,
so
there
is
a
synopsis
there
on
my
powerpoint
of
what
each
of
those
position
positions
does.
If
I
could
get
you
to
focus
just
on
the
last
bullet
point.
There,
mental
health,
mental
health,
housing
unit
and
programs
which
are
encourage
them
to
engage
in
treatment
and
promote
good
behavior.
O
O
My
news
4
news
channel
4
here
in
reno
they
came
in
and
they
did
a
two-part
series
on
what
we're
trying
to
do
with
our
mental
health
program
here,
encouraging
good
behavior
allowing
inmates
to
be
paired
and
sell
together
and
we're
finding
that
by
engaging
them
in
things
like
yoga
morning,
workouts
games
encouraging
them
to
to
act
in
a
group
in
a
group
setting
they're
coming
outside
their
shell,
a
little
bit
they're,
more
participatory
in
their
own
mental
health
treatment,
they're
taking
their
medications
and
that's
leading
to
better
behavior,
allowing
us
to
go
from
single-celled
inmates
to
pairing
them
up,
which
frees
up
room
for
us,
because
we
are
very
overcrowded.
O
In
addition,
we've
paired
with
a
group
here
locally
called
the
notables.
It's
music
therapy
we
had
them
come
in
on
a
trial
basis.
Last
year
saw
great
success
with
that.
They
came
in
once
a
week
for
the
females
once
for
the
males,
we've
actually
found
funding
to
double
that,
so
they'll
be
coming
in
twice
a
week,
but
they'll
be
doing
two
classes.
Each
visit
we've
also
had
yoga
classes,
come
in
and
attempt
as
they're
able,
with
certain
portions
of
our
mental
health
population
and
we've
seen
success
in
that
as
well.
Next
slide.
O
Some
of
the
challenges
we're
facing
are
long-term
management
and
engagement
following
release.
We're
just
simply,
as
as
other
presenters
have
said,
this
is
a
nationwide
problem.
This
is
not
specific
to
washoe
county
or
to
the
state
of
nevada.
We
just
don't
have
the
resources
in
our
community.
The
resources
that
we
do
have
are
already
taxed
with
people
that
are
out
of
custody.
O
The
most
of
our
folks
will
not
take
advantage
of
outpatient
mental
health
because
they
have
other
issues
like
homelessness
or
some
other
issues
going
on
substance
abuse
where,
if
they
can't
get
stable
in
in
a
home
setting
where
they
have
a
safe
place
to
go,
they're
likely
not
going
to
get
themselves
down
to
treatment,
leave
treatment
with
no
place
to
go
so
inpatient
facilities
are
very
much
needed
and
we
find
more
success
with
those
when
we
can
find
the
bed
space.
I'm
going
to
skip
down
to
the
last
bullet
point
on
that
slide.
O
If
I
may,
just
regarding
the
justice
system,
some
of
the
mental
health
inmates,
charged
with
non-violent
misdemeanors
to
remain
in
custody,
pending
the
outcome
of
a
competency
eval
which
can
extend
the
amount
of
time,
the
enemy
must
remain
in
custody
for
misdemeanor
offenses.
An
incompetent
evaluation
will
result
in
the
charges
being
dismissed
and
the
inmate
being
released
from
custody,
which
is
ideal
and
by
design
if
this
inmate
does
not
present
appropriately
for
illegal
2000
or
refuses
to
engage
in
the
mental
health
services
or
treatment
post-release,
the
individual
is
released
without
resources
or
planning.
O
This
can
result
in
a
high
rate
of
recidivism.
So
what
we've
seen
here
locally?
You
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
Just
some
thoughts.
Lakes
crossing
is
our
only
state
facility.
We
have
access
to
up
here.
I
know
that
is
shared
statewide.
It
is
also
shared
with
mouss
in
certain
parts
of
california.
Therefore
they
are.
O
She
was
court
ordered
to
lakes
crossing
for
treatment
to
competency
in
january
of
22,
and
as
of
yesterday,
I
was
still
looking
and
waiting
for
a
bed
space
at
lakes.
So
when
we're
looking
at
some
of
their
charges,
if
it's
a
misdemeanor
or
gross
misdemeanor,
while
we're
waiting
for
bed
space,
they
would
have
likely
time
served
if
they
were
just
serving
time
for
the
charges.
O
So
I've
been
working
very
closely
with
our
local
public
defenders
with
our
local
courts,
specifically
most
recently
judge
egan
walker
of
the
second
judicial
district
court,
who
is
going
to
take
over
some
of
the
mental
health
issues
that
were
experiencing
up
here
again
in
collaboration
with
our
public
defender
trying
to
mainstream
this
process.
We've
also
been
collaborating
with
lakes
crossing
more
now
than
ever.
I
was
recently
promoted
in
october
of
last
year.
At
that
time
there
was
a
lot
of
finger
pointing
as
to
what
the
problem
was
or
where
the
problem
lied.
O
We
can't
do
that,
so
we
decided
enough
finger
pointing
let's
collaborate.
Let's
try
to
mainstream
this
process
as
best
we
can
and
we've
seen
some
success
there.
Our
list
to
transfer
to
lakes
crossing
has
been
as
high
as
37
inmates.
We
have
by
collaborating
and
communicating
much
better
got
it
down
to
27,
but
again,
when
you're
looking
at
our
number
one
lady
who's
next
on
the
list
again
booked
in
august
of
21
court
ordered
in
january.
O
Yet
here
we
are
in
july
and
she's
still
in
custody,
so
we're
continuing
to
try
to
partner
with
relationships
with
our
local
resources.
Our
detention
services
unit
has
partnered
with
over
65
local
partners
when
it
comes
to
not
just
mental
health
or
substance
abuse
issues,
but
food,
emergency
services,
employment,
family
services,
financial
aid,
health
care
and
so
on,
so
that
we
can
at
least,
if
someone's,
getting
released,
look
to
pair
them
up
with
a
discharge
plan
or
pair
them
up
with
a
commissioned
staff.
O
Member
who
is
trained
in
this
to
give
them
an
idea
of
what
they
have
to
maybe
get
a
jumpstart
on
their
social
security
benefits
or
their
medicaid
starting
out,
because,
as
you
know,
when
they're
in
custody,
those
benefits
stop
for
them.
So
we
would
like
them
to
at
least
have
an
appointment
so
that
the
day
they
get
out
for
at
least
the
next
business
day,
they
can
get
down
to
those
offices,
get
the
credits
added
to
their
cards
and
at
least
have
a
chance.
O
E
P
Thank
you
good
evening
cherish
interim
judiciary
committee.
I
am
lieutenant
scott
zavza
with
the
detention
services
division,
las
vegas
metropolitan
police
department,
I'm
currently
assigned
to
the
training
bureau,
which
encompasses
the
academy
september,
advanced
training
and
accreditation.
I
am
transitioning
to
the
captain
of
the
south
tower
bureau
july
23rd,
which
oversees
the
operations
of
the
medical
contract
detention
services
division.
P
P
Our
detention
services
division
capacity
is
4153
under
the
roof
that
entails
the
clark
county
detention
center
with
a
capacity
of
3089,
the
north
valley
complex,
which
is
a
thousand
sixty
four,
the
tucker
holding
facility,
which
is
a
temporary
holding
facility
of
forty,
and
we
have
the
electronic
monitoring
program,
which
our
capacity
is
currently
nine.
Fifty
our
dsd
booking
and
housing.
In
2021
we
did
a
total
bookings
of
57
754,
with
our
average
daily
population
of
2954.
P
P
P
P
Some
stats
we
currently
have
as
of
may
two,
a
thousand
thirty
nine
inmates
which
are
on
the
mental
health
medication,
which
is
thirty
six
percent
of
the
patients
that
we
have,
that
are
mental
health
medication,
our
engagement,
our
mental
health
team.
We
have
what
we
consider
mhp
visits
in
may
2022.
We
had
2023
visits
just
in
that
month
itself
and
our
mid-level,
which
is
with
the
psychiatrist,
which
is
961..
P
You
can
see
that's
pretty
average
throughout
the
year,
give
or
take
step
down
evaluations.
That's
when
we're
trying
to
step
down
inmates
from
more
restrictive
housing
to
give
them
more
more
of
a
normal
environment.
We
did
367
step
down
evaluations
that
were
complete
as
far
as
our
suicide
watch
stats
may
of
2022.
We
had
186
inmates
placed
on
suicide
watch
as
you
can
see
our
suicide
temps.
Throughout
the
year
we
had
two
in
october,
20
21,
one
in
november
21
and
one
of
april
and
may
of
21..
P
We
have
stats
for
self-harm
without
intent
to
die.
Those
are
inmates
that
are
injuring
themselves
and,
and
we
have
to
respond
to
those
incidents,
but
it
is.
Their
intention
is
not
to
die
our
mental
health
staffing.
The
mental
health
health
team
is
comprised
of
psychiatric
registered
nurses,
master
level,
clinicians
a
charge
discharge
planner
as
well
as
prn
staff.
There
are
12
rns
and
14
master
level
clinicians
on
the
team.
Psychiatry
has
two
full-time
psychiatrists
and
two
full-time
psychiatric
nurse
practitioners,
as
well
as
pr
and
staff,
and
we
have
24
7
coverage.
P
We
have
programming
inside
the
units.
This
is
therapeutic
and
pro
social
group
settings
and
these
units
are
the
psyc.
What
we
consider
psych
units
inside
the
facility
and
that's
where
we
have
the
programming
and
on
the
slide
we
we
have
when
we
have
the
programming
and
how
often
in
the
week
some
checks
and
balances
that
we
do
on
a
routine
basis
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
following
our
high
quality
of
service,
that
we
we
expect.
We
have
weekly
restrictive
housing
meetings.
P
Those
are
attended
by
myself,
my
administrative,
lieutenant
psych
services,
medical,
the
courts,
competency
court,
and
we
also
include
the
behavioral
health
unit.
From
the
patrol
side.
We
talk
about
a
lot
of
the
more
difficult
cases
that
we're
facing
inside
the
jail.
We
come
up
with
plans
of
treatment
and
that
way
the
operational
side
and
the
mental
health
side
can
be
on
the
same
page
and
we
can
put
a
unified
meshes
out
to
deal
with
those
difficult
individuals,
continuous
quality
improvement,
cqi
on
critical
reviews
of
all
deaths
and
critical
incidents.
P
We
review
every
incident
in
its
entirety
and
find
any
loopholes
that
we
are
or
incidences
and
things
that
we
need
to
correct
from
those
incidences
monthly,
medical
administrative
committee,
which
is
consent
called
mac.
We
go
over.
It's
a
stat
data
driven
meeting
we
go
over
and
make
sure
everything's
falling
within
the
contract
parameters
and
that
we're
not
having
any
issues
within
that
contract.
P
So
we
have
intake
evaluation
and
monitoring,
which
is
medical
and
mental
health
screenings,
alcohol,
drug
detox
and
medication
prescribed
enhanced
supervision
and
booking
and
towers
with
constant
video
in
high
risk
areas
to
include
a
video
monitoring
officer
and
those
in
those
areas.
Housing,
programming
and
re-entry
classification
assignments.
Programs
availability
to
include
group
therapy
specialized
medical
and
mental
health
housing
to
include
step-down
programs
and
connections
with
several
community
providers,
crisis
intervention,
training
for
staff,
which
we
include
in
our
academy,
setting
they
go
through
that
before
they
graduate
the
academy
and
substantial
discharge
planning
for
inmates.
P
As
you
know,
we
we
have
to
transport
them
via
airplane
up
north
and
then
those
are
usually
our
more
volatile
individuals,
and
that
could
be
a
challenge
in
and
of
itself
just
the
transport
up
north
compared
to
stein,
which
we
just
drive,
the
the
less
volatile
individual
there
so
I'll
be
open
to
any
questions.
I'll
we'll
get
you
my
contact,
information
via
email
and
telephone
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions,
and
thank
you
for
your
time.
E
Thank
you
did
we
have
other
presenters
under
agenda
item
six?
E
K
K
K
Our
male
discipline
pod
holds
24
inmates,
utilizing
12
cells.
The
majority
of
our
severe
mental
health
inmates
cannot
be
housed
with
other
inmates.
This
poses
a
problem
with
our
housing,
as
the
mentally
ill
inmate
will
take
up
a
single
cell.
Currently
we
have
six
inmates
that
are
in
mental
health
issues
that
cannot
be
housed
with
other
inmates,
and
that
is
now
currently
our
half
of
our
pod.
K
Currently
we
have
one
inmate,
that's
been
in
our
custody
for
over
a
year
and
he's
still
waiting
to
go
legs
crossing
the
longest
time.
We've
had
is
one
year
and
eight
months.
Q
Q
What
we
have
done
with
both
facilities
is
looked
at
it
sort
of
how
do
we
intervene
across
the
spectrum
and
you've
heard
about
the
most
team
which
I'm
closely
aligned
with,
because
we
communicate
regularly
about
what
they're
experiencing
on
the
street
and
what
I
might
expect
to
see
in
custody
if
they
have
to
bring
somebody
in
so
you
have
the
diversion.
The
next
level
is:
what
do
we
do
with
somebody
that's
in
custody?
How
do
we
address
those
needs?
Q
In
2013?
The
fast
group
was
formed
where
we
invite
the
community
providers
into
the
jail
every
week
to
meet
with
all
the
inmates
that
wish
to
be
seen.
It
might
be
a
brief
visit.
It
might
be
a
time
that
they
can
get
applications
together
for
inpatient
substance
abuse
treatment,
but
the
goal
is
to
meet
with
everyone
that
has
a
need
around
mental
health
and
addiction.
Q
We
think
bringing
the
clinicians
in
is
better
than
expecting
the
inmates
to
leave
and
believe
that
they're
going
to
go
to
four
different
institutions
or
agencies
to
get
the
help
they
need.
So
we
bring
it
in
right
up
front.
Everyone
has
access
to
the
service
on
the
day
they
are
arrested,
then,
while
they're
in
custody
treatment
groups
are
also
provided
by
the
fast
team
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
engage
and
build
a
rapport
with
the
inmates,
so
they
have
some
motivation
to
continue
when
they
leave.
Q
Q
The
next
level
is
post-conviction,
so
in
2005
I
helped
form
the
mental
health
court.
There's
a
misdemeanor
treatment
court
for
addiction,
there's
also
the
western
regional
drug
court.
So
these
are
post-conviction,
so
we
go
from
diversion
to
custody,
to
post
conviction
and
those
programs
work.
Well
all
three
areas
work
well
with
people
who
are
competent
to
stand
trial
competent
to
assert
a
plea
competent
to
go
forward
with
a
trial.
Q
It's
a
smaller
population,
but
a
very
complex
comp
population
group
that
is
not
competent
to
go
forward
and
you've
heard
the
problems
that
comes
with,
and
typically
the
prototypical
client
that
we
encounter
is
one
who
is
actively
psychotic,
they're,
disconnected
from
reality.
They're,
typically
paranoid.
Q
The
disease
process
itself
robs
them
of
the
ability
to
see
that
they
have
an
issue,
so
they
typically
reject
treatment
and
they
reject
medications.
And
so
then
we've
got
a
volatile
individual
that
can't
be
housed
with
others.
It
has
to
be
separated
and
then
wait
and
wait
and
weight,
and
so
we
do
what
we
can
through
diversion
through
in
custody
programs
and
post-conviction
programs
to
get
people
funneled.
So
they
can
get
in
and
out
efficiently
with
the
least
amount
of
sort
of
aggravation
and
time
being
held.
Q
But
there
are
many
people
in
custody
waiting
for
that
legal
piece
of
competency
that
out
that
surpassed
the
time
they
would
have
spent
if
they
could
have
asserted
to
plead
guilty
or
gone
to
trial,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
greatest
barriers.
We
have
that
we're
sort
of
helpless
to
address
the
rest
of
the
things
I
believe
are
functioning
well
and
our
community
partners
are
great
and
there's
a
tremendous
amount
of
communication
with
local
act
teams,
most
teams
between
myself
and
our
medical
group.
E
Thank
you.
So
much
did
we
have
anybody
else
in
carson
city
to
present
I
apologize.
Sometimes
I
can't
totally
tell
from
up
here
what's
going
on
up
there
all
right
well,
thank
you
so
much
for
that
information,
and
I
think
that
members
of
the
committee
will
be
following
up
with
you
offline
with
any
questions
that
we
have.
Excuse
me.
E
I
think
that
takes
us
to
agenda
item
number
seven
we're
going
to
hear
from
the
lcb
audit
division
about
the
audit
that
was
provided
as
one
of
our
exhibits
today
and
I
will
let
you
take
it
away
whenever
you're
ready.
C
C
One
thing
I
just
want
to
put
on
the
record
is:
we
do
appreciate
director
daniels
and
his
team
for
their
cooperation
and
collaboration
throughout
the
audit
process.
It
was
definitely
a
difficult
time.
We
recognize
that
we
enter
into
an
audit
we're
asking
an
agency
to
add
one
more
thing
to
their
already
full
plate
and,
however,
we
do
know
that
our
work
is
really
important,
and
so
we
do
appreciate
when
the
agencies
are
cooperative
and
assist
us
in
our
work
and
provide
the
information
we
need.
C
I'm
joined
today
by
mr
eugene
alera,
an
audit
supervisor
who'll
provide
an
extremely
abbreviated
summary
of
the
results
of
our
audit.
A
copy
of
the
report
is
included
in
the
meeting
packet
today
under
agenda
item
7a.
With
your
permission
chair.
I
turn
the
presentation
over
to
mr
alera.
N
Yes,
thank
you
dan
good
evening
cherish
scheibel
and
committee
members
for
the
record.
My
name
is
eugene
o'leary
and
I'm
an
audit
supervisor
with
the
audit
division.
As
dan
said
I'm
here
today
to
present
the
performance
audit,
titled
department
of
corrections
use
of
force
chapter.
One
of
our
report
summarizes
our
review
of
the
department's
practices
processes
and
made
allegations
of
excessive
use
of
force
through
the
grievance
process,
management,
review
of
use
of
force
incidents
and
our
analysis
of
100
use
of
force
incidents.
N
Our
testing
revealed
inmate
grievances,
alleging
excessive
use
of
force
were
not
always
reviewed
or
addressed.
Timely
in
the
inmates
must
use
the
grievance
process
to
address
any
tort
or
civil
claim
related
to
their
confinement.
Grievances
are
the
first
step
in
the
legal
process
for
the
inmates
we
tested.
20
use
of
force
grievances
from
a
population
of
83
and
found
13
had
no
evidence
of
review
by
the
inspector
general's
office,
as
required
by
department
regulation.
N
N
N
Our
testing
revealed
the
department
did
not
conduct
a
review
panel
for
nine
of
25
use
of
force
incidents
tested
additionally
for
10
incidents.
The
department
did
not
complete
the
review
timely
chapter
2
of
our
report,
discusses
use
of
prospective
officers
and
various
other
administrative
functions
related
to
use
of
force.
N
N
Four
of
20
prospective
officers
tested
or
signed
the
work
posts
alone.
Six
prospective
officers
were
assigned
to
work,
dedicated
posts
normally
requiring
a
second
certified
peace
officer
and
four
prospective
officers
participated
in
use
of
force,
incidents
against
department
regulations,
while
statute
allows
law
enforcement
agencies
to
use
prospective
officers
on
all
of
these
functions.
N
N
Regarding
the
administration
of
peace
officer
training,
we
found
the
department
training
was
not
adequately
tracked.
Furthermore,
the
department
has
not
developed
standardized
restraint.
Chair
training,
we
reviewed
the
files
of
104
officers
and
found
no
documentation
of
pregnant
inmate
restraint,
training
for
nine
officers
and
staff.
Additionally,
six
officers
were
issued.
Tasers
one
officer
fired
a
blank
shotgun
round
and
two
officers
used
a
restraint
chair
with
no
evidence.
Their
training
was
up
to
date.
Knack
289
prohibits
officers
from
using
weapons
unless
their
training
is
current.
N
Our
evaluation
of
the
department's
weapons
management
practice
revealed
improvements
are
needed.
Specifically,
the
department's
authorized
weapons
list
was
not
up
to
date
and
contained
some
obsolete
weapons.
We
found
212
of
744
weapons
located
in
the
institution's
armories,
where
unauthorized
indoor
obsolete
an
authorized.
Weapons
list
is
needed
to
ensure
weapons,
reliability
and
quality,
proper
training
and
for
weapons
tracking.
N
The
department's
administrative
regulations
were
also
found
to
be
out
of
date
during
the
audit.
Specifically,
the
department
uses
the
restraint
chair
at
all
major
institutions,
but
has
not
adopted
an
administrative
regulation
governing
its
use.
Additionally,
administrative
regulations
have
not
been
updated
for
recent
legislative
changes
related
to
law
enforcement
practices
and
peace
officer,
drug
testing
chapters.
Three
and
four
of
the
report
disclose
our
findings
regarding
the
reliability
of
the
department's
use
of
force
and
the
department's
body
camera
program.
N
N
N
N
N
E
Thank
you
so
much.
I
think
that
was
really
helpful
information
and
we
will
follow
up
with
you
with
questions,
and
I
think
that
if
I'm
reading
this
right
takes
us
to
part
b
of
our
review
of
wait.
Yes
right,
part
b
of
our
review
of
audits.
R
Members
of
the
committee,
thank
you
for
inviting
us
to
appear
before
the
joint
committee
to
present
dia
audit
2205
that
focused
on
the
department
of
corrections
and
its
physical
processes
for
the
record.
I'm
warren
lohmann
administrator
of
the
division
of
the
internal
audits
in
the
governor's
finance
office
and
I'll
briefly
highlight
the
audit's
findings
and
recommendations.
R
R
The
edits
clarify
that
the
offender
store
does
not
sell
items
that
should
be
considered
necessities.
The
department
provides
no
charge
rations
of
basic
hygiene
supplies,
clothing
and
meals.
Offender
store
items
are
purchased
by
offenders,
who
can
afford
to
buy
substitute
basic
ration
items
or
other
food
clothing
and
electronics
they
may
prefer.
R
R
Excuse
me
session
the
legislature,
capped
marsy's
law
and
other
assessments
in
nrs
209.247
at
25
percent
of
deposits
made
by
friends
and
family
and
50
of
wages
for
each
pay
period.
The
provisions
were
affected
july.
1
2021,
however,
regulations
for
implementing
the
provisions
have
not
yet
been
adopted
when
the
auto
report
was
issued
in
february
2022.
R
R
Ndot
had
not
yet
implemented
the
audit
recommendations
to
improve
the
oversight
of
overtime.
In
addition,
ndoc
inappropriately
assigned
state-owned
vehicles
to
staff,
regardless
of
need
or
actual
use
and
inaccurately
reports,
vehicle
use,
vehicle
use
for
61
percent
of
employees
assigned
a
vehicle
did
not
meet
the
state's
minimum
usage
requirements
prescribed
in
the
state
administrative
manual.
R
The
fourth
recommendation
was
to
improve
oversight
over
weapons
purchases
by
ensuring
purchases
are
not
classified
as
inmate-driven
costs
and
are
accounted
for
at
facilities
where
the
weapons
will
be
used.
The
audit
found
forty
percent
of
weapons
purchases
were
charged
to
inmate-driven
accounts
and
to
inmate
transportation.
R
In
summary,
improving
oversight
of
fiscal
management
and
accounting
practices
will
increase
oversight
for
over
14
million
dollars
in
offender
store
sales
and
overtime
costs,
increase
transparency
through
the
public
administrative
rulemaking
process,
ensure
offenders
can
purchase
items
at
a
reasonable
cost
and
improve
administrative
accountability
in
the
director's
office.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
E
Thank
you
so
much.
I
have
been
reviewing
that
audit
and
it
is
really
interesting,
and
so
I
wish
we
had
time
to
to
go
through
some
questions
today.
But,
alas,
we
are
already
past
the
time
I
promise
to
be
out
of
here.
So
we
really
do
appreciate
you
being
here.
We
may
follow
up
with
you
offline,
and
I
think
that
takes
us
to
our
next
item.
On
the
agenda
item
number
eight:
an
update
from
the
records
and
communications
compliance,
division
of
dps
go
ahead
whenever
you're
ready.
I
Thank
you
good
afternoon,
chair
scheibel
and
members
of
the
committee.
My
name
is
eric
suzayamas
and
I'm
the
division
administrator
for
the
records,
communications
and
compliance
division
within
the
department
of
public
safety
state
police.
I'm
here
today
to
give
you
an
update
on
my
division's
progress
with
the
implementation
of
senate
bill
212..
I
I
was
also
going
to
provide
an
update
on
our
implementation
efforts
of
ab291
from
the
2019
session
senate
bill
6
senate
bill
7
and
senate
bill
147
from
the
2021
session
as
well
is
an
update
on
our
ncgs
modernization
efforts.
But,
given
our
time
constraints
this
afternoon,
I'll
keep
it
narrowed
down
to
senate
bill
212.,
so
section
3.3
of
senate
bill
212
requires
law
enforcement
agencies
to
submit
the
use
of
forced
data
to
the
central
repository
on
a
monthly
basis
and
also
requires
them
to
participate
in
the
fbi's
national
use.
I
Of
course,
data
collection.
Additionally,
the
repository
is
responsible
for
making
the
data
available
on
our
public
website.
This
section
of
the
bill
becomes
effective
on
the
date
that
the
department
determines
their
sufficient
funding
to
carry
out
the
provisions
of
this
section.
The
repository
currently
has
a
vendor
that
provides
the
the
state
with
uniform
crime
reporting
program
that
provides
crime.
Statistics
is
required
by
nrs
179a
and
consistent
with
current
practices
will
be
adding
the
use
of
force
module
to
the
current
data
collection
system.
I
Since
all
of
the
law
enforcement
agencies
in
the
state
that
are
responsible
for
reporting,
the
data
already
have
access
to
that
system.
The
repository
has
been
unsuccessful
so
far
in
locating
federal
grant
money
for
this
effort.
Therefore,
we
do
have
plans
to
approach
the
interim
finance
committee
in
august
to
request
the
necessary
funding
for
the
effort.
I
Once
the
funding
and
contract
is
approved,
we
will
immediately
begin
working
with
the
vendor
to
implement
it's
a
pretty
straightforward
module
in
the
system,
but
will
require
a
bit
of
customization
to
meet
the
requirements
of
senate
bill
212..
That's
pretty
much
all!
I
have
glad
to
answer
any
questions.
Anybody
might
have.
E
That
was
very
impressive
and
we
very
much
appreciate
it.
All
right
is
ms
gonzalez
still
here
from
the
sentencing
the
department
of
sentencing
policy.
I
know
that
we
had
reached
out
to
her
about
rescheduling.
For
august,
I
just
okay,
it
looks
like
we
are
going
to
reschedule
their
presentation
for
august,
which
brings
us
we've
already
done
agenda
item
number
10,
so
we're
going
to
move
to
agenda
item
number
11..
E
I
know
that
the
aclu
has
also
graciously
agreed
to
come
back
and
present
to
us
in
august,
but
I
wasn't
sure
about
mass
liberation
project.
If
you
guys
were
together
or
if
there
was
someone
here
separately
from
mass
liberation.
E
Okay,
I'm
not
seeing
anybody
coming
to
the
podium,
so
the
invitation
is
also
extended
to
masquerading
project
to
come
back
in
august
and
of
course
we
will
follow
up
with
you
offline
with
all
of
those
details
and
make
it
all
official.
But
in
that
case
we
get
to
move
on
to
the
final
item
on
our
agenda,
which
is
public
comment,
and
there
is
no
one
in
las
vegas
to
give
public
comment.
Is
there
anybody
in
carson
city
wishing
to
give
public
comment
at
this
time.
S
Thank
you,
chair
schaible
members
of
the
committee
during
tonya
brown
advocates
for
the
inmates
and
the
innocent
during
the
february
march
meeting
under
the
public
comment,
we
presented
our
this
committee
with
our
recommendations
and
the
criteria
we've
also
submitted
them
to
lcb
for
by
today's
deadline,
of
course,
for
the
august
workshop,
and
we
hope
that
you
will
consider
and
pass
our
recommendations
for
those
who
don't
know
the
history
of.
Why
become
an
advocate
I'll
make
it
really
brief.
S
My
brother
spent
21
years
incarcerated
for
a
crime
he
did
not
commit
in
2009,
the
washoe
county
district
attorney
was
ordered
by
the
court
to
turn
over
the
da's
file.
In
my
brother's
case
in
the
file
were
the
handwritten
notes
of
the
prosecuting
attorney,
showing
he
never
turned
over
the
ex
excupatory
evidence
that
showed
that
there
was
another
suspect
who
disappeared
the
day
after
the
crime
occurred.
S
Just
as
his
attorneys,
my
brother's
attorneys
were
about
ready
to
file
motions
for
new
trial
and
bail.
Mr
kline,
my
brother
passed
away
from
lack
of
medical
care,
that's
how
he
died.
S
Two
years
after
my
brother's
death,
I
hired
a
private
investigator
to
locate
the
sparks
pd
prime
suspect.
The
information
that
was
provided
to
the
private
investigator
by
the
suspect
would
support
my
brother's
claims
of
innocence.
S
I
want
to
discuss
return
strong.
I
thought
they
did
a
wonderful
presentation.
There
were
questions
asked
by
the
committee
and
I
think
maybe
I
can
answer
a
couple
of
those
with
the
the
oversight
committee.
I
see
that
they
had
a
lot
of
things
that
we
had
prior
to
the
bill,
passing
in
2011
sb
201.
There
were
some
additional
things
that
has
never
been
touched
on,
but
it
was
raised
as
a
matter
of
fact.
In
this
committee,
one
of
those
was
the
modeling.
S
According
to
mr
kant,
in
2002
they
were
looking
to
quote
an
inmate
mediation
program
upon
the
successful
program
for
the
federal
inmates.
That's
how
they
were
going
to
model
it.
There
was
questions
about.
I
think
it
might
have
been
assemblyman
o'neill
who
brought
up
grievances
in
the
process.
I
will
tell
you
because
the
wrongful
death
suit
I
was
able
to
obtain
a
copy
of
the
ndoc
file
which
deals
with
the
offender
summary
information,
everything
anything
and
everything
that
the
inmate
does.
S
And
when
they're
asked
about
these
grievances,
they
can't
argue
it
or
they
just
assume,
that's
it,
but
anyway
it
also
I'm
trying
to
hurry
it
up
here
in
2000.
Also
that
came
out
of
the
wrongful
death
suit.
S
I
discovered
in
2011
that
in
2007,
when
the
notice
was
implemented
it
as
according
to
a
testimony,
the
it's
it
flipped
and
it
put
false
felony
charges
in
inmates
files
and
I
still
get
complaints
and
there
are
still
court
proceedings
going
on
about
inmates
who
got
false
charges
in
their
file
due
to
we
believe
it's
this
notice.
S
I
know
that
back
in
2000
years,
three
minutes
now,
so
if
you
could
wrap
up
okay,
I'm
just
saying
that
there
are
some
other
issues,
but
I
will
let
you
know
that
I
will
follow
up
with
the
ag's
office
and
look
into
what
they're
going
to
be
doing,
and
perhaps
they
can
come
next
time
and
talk
to
you
about
it
and
maybe
get
some
funding
if
they
don't
have
the
funding.
Thank
you.
E
All
right,
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
sticking
with
us
to
make
public
comment
at
this
late
hour.
It
looks
like
there's
someone
else
in
carson
city.
Please
go
ahead
whenever
you're
ready.
J
Chair
schaible
and
members
of
the
committee
for
the
record,
my
name
is
pamela
del
porto.
I
am
the
executive
director
for
nevada,
sheriffs
and
chiefs
association,
I'm
going
to
keep
it
to
one
minute
or
less,
and
I
would
just
request
that
a
additional
information
be
obtained
from
the
rural.
I
don't
like
that
word,
but
the
the
outlying
counties
in
regards
to
their
jails
and
the
mental
health.
J
E
Thank
you.
We
appreciate
that
and
I
don't
see
anybody
else
in
carson
city
so
to
give
public
comment.
There
are
still
people
in
carson
city,
and
so
we
will
go
to
the
phones.
Please.
E
All
right,
thank
you
so
much
that
brings
us
to
the
conclusion
of
our
agenda.
For
today
we
will
have
another
meeting
which
will
be
our
final
meeting
on
august
12th,
right
august
12th
and
the
new
format
for
that
will
be
informational
conversations
presentations
in
the
morning
and
then
we'll
have
our
work
session
in
the
afternoon
as
usual,
very
short
break
in
between
them
and
as
usual,
we
will
try
to
accommodate
any
scheduling
necessities,
or
you
know,
changes
things
like
that.
E
But
in
the
meantime
I
just
want
to
thank
everybody
for
sticking
with
us
at
this
late
hour.
I
apologize
to
people
who
had
to
wait
a
very
long
time
today
and
especially
the
people
who
got
bumped
to
august,
but
I
hope
you
understand
that
it's
not
for
a
lack
of
interest
in
what
you
have
to
say,
but
the
opposite.
We
want
to
be
able
to
listen
to
you
in
august.
E
Ask
questions
and
and
really
give
you
the
time
that
you
deserve,
and
also
apologies
to
the
people
who
got
cut
short
today,
but
don't
worry
we
will
still
follow
up
with
you
with
questions.
You
just
won't
have
to
answer
them
in
the
hot
seat.
So
with
that,
I
will
adjourn
today's
meeting
and
see
you
all
in
august
meeting
adjourned.