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C
A
Here
and
it
looks
like
assemblywoman
krasner
is
here
as
well,
and
if
you
could
mark
senator
pickard
excused,
he
is
excused
from
this
meeting
assembly.
Members
win
and
marzola
will
be
joining
us
just
as
soon
as
possible
if
you'd
mark
them
present
when
they
arrive,
and
with
that
I
believe
we
have
a
quorum
excellent,
and
that
leads
us
into
our
very
first
agenda
item
before
I
start,
I
do
want
to
make
a
couple
of
kind
of
housekeeping
announcements.
A
Those
of
you
who
have
joined
us
at
the
joint
interim
judiciary
committee
before
have
heard
them
before.
So
I
apologize
if
I
bore
you,
but
I
think
it's
important
for
everybody
to
recognize
that
we
do
have
a
a
very
packed
agenda
today,
as
we
always
do.
We
are
very
we.
I
speak
for
the
whole
committee
when
I
say
we
are
very
appreciative
of
everybody
taking
the
time
out
of
their
schedule
to
be
here.
A
We
also
understand
that
it
will
result
in
more
than
a
little
bit
of
waiting
for
more
than
a
few
of
you,
and
we
appreciate
your
patience
in
order
to
try
to
limit
the
delays.
We
do
take
a
very
short
lunch
break.
The
the
members
of
the
committee
will
just
leave
very
briefly:
grab
some
food
and
come
back
to
the
committee
room.
We
try
to
take
that
break
around
11,
30
or
12,
but
try
to
time
it
so
that
it
is
a
natural
break
in
the
presentations.
A
We
also
try
to
be
flexible
with
our
presenters
if
there
are
people
who
need
to
leave
or
if
you
need
to
leave
and
come
back
and
want
to
be
moved
later
to
the
agenda,
I
do
my
very
best
to
to
accommodate
that.
You
just
have
to
let
me
or
the
staff
know,
and
you
know
we
all
have
our
phones
up
here.
We
that's
what
we
use
them
for
we're,
not
scrolling
tick,
tock,
we're
not
on
instagram.
A
We
are
using
them
to
communicate
with
presenters
who
are
coming
up
next
presenters
who
have
questions
or
need
to
update,
slides
things
like
that
and
by
the
same
token,
we
do
have
a
number
of
members
present
with
us
online.
A
They
they
all
know
that
they
are
welcome
to
leave
their
cameras
on
turn
their
cameras
off.
Sometimes
it
helps
with
the
sound
and
everybody
can,
you
know,
get
up
to
get
a
glass
of
water
or
go
to
the
restaurant
or
whatever
they
need
during
the
presentation.
So
please
don't
be
offended.
If
you
see
somebody
leaving
the
room
just
like
you,
they
may
not
have
been
able
to
stand
up
in
an
hour
or
two,
and
so
I
think
those
are
all
of
the
announcements
that
I
wanted
to
make.
A
Everybody
aware
of
the
committee
also
knows
if
they,
you
know
miss
something.
They
may
ask
a
follow-up
question
in
the
committee.
They
may
also
follow
up
with
you
offline
and
we
are
going
to
limit
both
the
presentations
and
the
questions
today,
so
that
we
have
time
to
get
through
everybody
I'll
give
each
member
of
the
committee
a
you,
know
one
bite
at
the
apple
to
ask
the
questions
that
they
have
and
any
follow-ups,
and
then,
if
other
questions
occur
to
them,
we'll
we'll
see
how
time
is
going.
We've
always
been
very
collegial
on
this
committee.
A
We've
never
had
a
problem
before
with
people
being
flexible
in
you
know
if
we
have
to
stop
discussion
and
move
on
to
the
next
item.
We'll
just
do
that.
I
can
already
tell
you
that
they're
going
to
be
a
few
things
that
we're
going
to
take
out
of
order.
Our
return,
strong
members
are
here
in
the
building
today,
and
I
know
that
a
lot
of
them
have
jobs
to
get
to
and
work
to
go
to
which
I
know
we
all
do,
and
I
have.
A
I
have
agreed
to
allow
them
to
present
a
little
bit
earlier
in
the
agenda
than
we
were
planning
on,
and
I
also
may
be
taking
the
audits
before
the
presentation
from
the
department
of
corrections.
If
my
presenters
are
available
to
do
that,
but
basically
we're
going
to
start
with
public
comment.
Then
we're
going
to
skip
the
juvenile
justice
oversight.
Commission
today
we
didn't
have
time
to
produce
a
updated
agenda,
but
they'll
not
be
presenting
today.
So
we'll
go
from
public
comment
into
the
discussion
on
the
interim
study.
A
All
right,
I
think
I've
covered
everything
we
will
go
into
public
comment
now.
Public
comment
is
three
minutes
per
person.
Is
there
anybody
present
in
las
vegas
who
wants
to
give
public
comment
in
person,
go
ahead
and
come
right
up
to
this
table
where
the
two
chairs
are
you
see
somebody
coming
up
and
just
turn
on
the
microphone?
There's
a
button
that
says
mic
you
press
that
it
lights
up
your
microphones
on
and
give
us
your
name
before.
You
start
please.
F
The
price
of
the
items
in
the
commissary
have
increased
eight
times
over
the
last
year,
despite
the
contract
vendor
keith
only
being
allowed
to
raise
prices
once
a
year.
I
was
sickened
to
learn
that
a
recent
audit
of
ndoc's
fiscal
process
processes
outlined
that
over
the
course
of
the
year,
commissary
prices
netted
the
department
over
five
million
dollars
in
profit.
This
is
the
profit
that
comes
off
of
struggling
nevada
families
as
well
as
myself.
F
F
Food
purchased
from
the
commissary
is
often
the
only
supplemental
nutrition
that
incarcerated
individuals
have
access
to.
I
don't
know
about
you,
but
it
would
be
rough
to
go
to
bed
hungry.
Have
you
ever
received
a
letter
from
one
of
your
children
describing
hunger
pains
and
what
it's
like
to
go
to
bed
hungry?
I
do
hear
it
all
the
time
imagine
having
to
choose
between
supplementing
nutrition
and
basic
needs
for
your
son
or
your
child,
my
son,
in
my
instance,
or
buying
diapers
and
nutritional
items
for
my
grandchildren.
F
Not
only
are
families
bearing
the
financial
and
emotional
emotional
burden
of
supplying
food
to
their
loved
ones,
but
also
basic
necessities
that
ndoc
has
deemed
to
be
a
luxury
inmates
are
given
one
roll
of
toilet
paper
per
week.
That
may
have
changed,
but
that's
how
it
was
a
month
ago
for
my
son,
it's
using
more
than
one
roll
of
toilet
paper,
really
a
luxury.
Imagine
that
your
only
bathing
option
is
a
shared
shower
area
and
aren't
shower
sandals
a
necessity
for
health
reasons.
F
Basic
necessities
are
not
luxuries.
They're
part
of
the
eighth
amendment
that
require
prison
officials
to
adhere
to
two
evolving
standards
of
decency.
Nevada
has
formal
regulations
since
2010,
yet
12
years
later,
in
2022,
prices
of
commissary
items
remain
unregulated
and
why,
by
continuing
to
pass
the
cost
of
imprisoned
individuals
to
families
and
loving
ones
in
our
nevada
communities,
we
continue
to
perpetuate
the
cycle
of
disadvantage.
F
Not
only
does
this
perpetuate
disadvantage
in
our
communities,
but
within
the
prison
system
itself,
disadvantaged
offenders
are
often
limited
to
access
to
funds
while
struggling
to
purchase
basic
necessities
such
as
food,
clothing
and
hygiene
items
that
creates
tension
within
the
prisons.
Increased
disparity
in
larger
gaps
between
the
haves
and
have
nots
in
the
prisons
continue
to
create
a
safety
risk
for
offenders
and
your
officers.
F
A
Is
there
anybody
else
in
las
vegas
to
give
public
comment
in
person.
G
Hi
good
morning
my
name
is
sonia
williams.
I
became
a
activist
with
return
strong.
After
the
experience
I
went
through
with
my
daughter's
father,
who
was
incarcerated
at
high
desert
state
prison.
We
have
been
well
we're
sharing
our
stories
with
you
today
to
help
you
understand
why
we
need
oversight
in
the
nevada
prisons.
We
have
studied
oversight
bills
in
other
states
and
realized
that
by
protecting
families,
we
can
also
address
issues
with
lack
of
communication,
respect
and
humane
treatment
of
our
loved
ones
and
all
incarcerated
persons
in
nevada.
G
I
am
going
to
share
my
story,
but
I
want
to
be
clear
that
this
is
not
unique,
not
in
nevada.
Let
me
begin
in
2019
eric
called
me
to
tell
me
that
he
passed
out
on
the
cell
and
had
blood
in
his
stool
and
asked
me
to
call
and
get
him
to
the
doctor.
G
Over
the
next
three
weeks,
we
had
no
idea
how
to
even
process
the
diagnosis
as
no
medical
staff
within
the
prison
could
offer
any
information.
Regarding
his
diagnosis
or
treatment
plan,
I
was
forced
to
beg
and
plead
with
the
prison
for
any
information
regarding
eric's
medical
care.
At
that
point,
my
daughter
had
not
seen
her
father
for
nearly
two
years.
Due
to
covid
eric
was
in
the
infirmary
at
high
desert.
He
could
barely
hold
the
phone
to
have
a
conversation.
I
began
asking
the
prison
to
honor
a
special
visit.
G
G
It
happened
so
fast.
I
didn't
even
realize
she
had
run
to
him
until
I
saw
the
guards
rushed
past
me.
There
was
no
contact
rollout
visit
at
that
time,
but
the
policy
said
that
if
children
were
being
in
control,
they
would
have
to
leave,
but
she
got
no
warning
and
we
were
forced
to
leave
eric
was
crying
and
jason
was
just
confused.
G
They
did
not
make
an
exception
for
a
terminally
ill
person
who
was
handcuffed
and
shackled.
This
little
girl
just
gave
him
a
hug
after
being
able
to
see
him
after
not
being
able
to
see
him
for
two
years.
Our
visit
was
immediately
terminated
and
we
were
escorted
from
the
visiting
room.
That
was
the
last
memory
my
daughter
will
have
of
her
father.
We
were
never
able
to
visit
again.
They
suspended
our
visit
for
six
months
and
wrote
him
up
on
disciplinary
charges
and
he
was
still
awaiting
disciplinary
disciplinary
determination
regarding
the
hug
when
he
died.
G
I
spent
six
months
trying
to
get
in
dlc
to
follow
their
own
policy
for
compassionate
release,
but
that
process
is
amazed
and
it's
a
race
against
the
clock
with
no
help
navigate
with
no
help
navigating
it
at
all.
Thankfully,
I
found
return
strong,
who
helped
point
me
in
the
direction
needed
to
get
him
a
compassionate
release
and
overcome
the
obstacles
that
were
constantly
thrown
in
our
way.
G
Eric
was
finally
approved
for
compassionate
release.
On
december
9th,
we
were
told
by
pmp
that
he'd
be
released
by
december
25
on
december
15th.
However,
five
days
before
he
was
to
be
released,
he
we
were
informed
that
ndoc
had
failed
to
notify
the
county
commissioners
of
his
penny
release
and
he
had
a
new
45-day
hold.
A
G
Okay,
there
we
go
my
name's,
nicole
williams,
I'm
also
an
activist
with
return
strong,
and
I
just
want
to
read
a
brief
statement
in
regards
to
oversight
with
the
ndoc
when
my
place
of
employment
was
proactive
in
raising
our
pay
rate,
seven
percent,
to
help
with
the
cost
of
inflation.
Last
month,
I
was
so
grateful.
My
first
thought
was:
this
increase
is
going
to
help
with
my
very
tight
budget.
I
don't
qualify
for
any
type
of
state
assistance
and
live
paycheck
to
paycheck,
like
so
many
other
individuals
that
have
incarcerated
loved
ones.
G
Well,
that
seven
percent
increase
has
helped
me
be
able
to
send
my
loved
one
a
little
more
money
each
month,
so
he
can
buy
commissary
and
add
money
to
his
phone
time,
so
he
can
call
and
talk
to
his
children
and
his
sick,
elderly
mother.
We
would
love
to
go
visit,
since
we
haven't
been
able
to
see
him
in
a
couple
years
due
to
covid,
but
we
financially
are
unable
to
do
so
often
times.
I
have
to
decide
if
I
pay
a
bill,
put
money
on
his
books
or
save
up
for
a
quarterly
package.
G
The
ndo,
the
ndoc,
has
increased,
store
prices
at
least
six
times
this
past
year
and
me
and
other
families
are
paying
for
it
at
one
point,
he
could
get
a
decent
amount
of
food
and
hygiene
items
for
fifty
dollars,
but
now
that
barely
gets
them
anything,
let's
not
forget
the
fees,
the
fees
to
send
money
fees
to
put
money
on
the
phone
fees
to
send
packages.
The
list
goes
on
and
on
the
ndoc
made
14.2
million
dollars
in
profit.
That
was
reported
during
the
audit
that
was
published
and
his
public
record.
That
is
insane.
G
Why
do
our
loved
ones
have
to
pay
co-pays
to
see
a
doctor
and
pay
room
and
board
if
they
work
prison
industry
jobs?
I
have
looked
at
other
neighboring
states
and
researched
their
food
prices
and
package
costs,
and
they
are
so
much
slower
than
nevada
same
vendor
too.
I
don't
truly
understand
the
greed
I
literally
go
without
so
my
loved
one
can
go
to
sleep
on
a
full
stomach.
G
We
need
to
change
legislation.
My
hard
earned
money
needs
to
go
to
my
loved
one
and
not
the
ndoc.
In
closing,
I
want
to
share
a
quote
from
nelson
mandela.
No
one
truly
knows
a
nation.
Until
one
has
been
inside
its
jails,
a
nation
should
not
be
judged
by
how
it
treats
its
highest
citizens,
but
its
lowest
ones.
Thank
you.
D
I
am
the
state
deputy
director
of
the
fine
fees
justice
center
ffjc
is
here
today
in
support
of
return
strong
and
our
joint
proposal
for
the
implementation
of
regulations
surrounding
the
cost
of
incarceration
in
the
state
of
nevada.
We
have
submitted
our
proposal
along
with
a
preliminary
report
on
the
many
costs
associated
with
incarceration.
The
majority
of
the
information
in
this
report
was
received
from
a
response
to
a
public
record
to
a
crest
we
submitted
to
ndoc.
We
want
to
thank
the
chair
for
the
help
in
expediating.
D
The
request
which
we
were
originally
told
would
not
be
made
available
until
september
last
legislative
session.
This
body
unanimously
passed
and
amended
sb
22
with
the
goal
of
financially
protecting
the
families
of
the
incarcerated.
While
this
was
an
extremely
important
first
step,
our
research
has
found
that
the
cost
of
incarceration
in
in
nevada
remains
extremely
high.
The
information
we
were
provided
shows
a
commissary
markup
of
66
on
most
commissary
goods,
including
tampons,
denture,
cream
vitamins,
food
and
clothing
products.
D
Ndoc
has
the
highest
medical
copay
in
the
country
and
was
the,
and
we
were
the
only
state
in
the
nation
not
to
waive
that
medical
copay
during
the
pandemic.
For
many
who
have
institutional
jobs
such
as
a
barber
or
law
library
staff,
a
single
medical
visit
can
cost
more
than
half
a
month's
pay.
These
high
costs
discourage
individual
individuals
from
seeking
medical
care
and
lead
to
costly
treatment
down
the
line.
D
Emergency
medical
care
costs
a
man
down
fee,
that
is
at
least
fifty
dollars
if
a
doctor
is
needed,
although
we
have
repair
reports
of
more
money
being
charged,
medical
injuries
from
recreational
activities
or
from
self-harm
often
result
in
debt
that
follows
an
individual.
After
incarceration,
the
debt
can
range
from
hundreds
to
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars.
As
shown
in
the
recent
audits.
D
This
debt
is
often
sent
to
collection
agencies
and
debt
is
continued
to
be
incurred
at
a
time
when
individuals
are
the
least
likely
to
have
access
to
financial
resources
if
they
do
have
debt
to
the
system
when
they
release
that
debt
is
taken
out
first
from
their
savings,
they
are
often
released
with
a
debit
card
with
just
25
on
it.
These
debit
cards
have
a
fee
to
use
the
debit
card.
They
have
a
fee
to
not
use
a
debit
card.
They
have
a
fee
to
check
the
balance
on
the
debit
card.
D
They
have
a
fee
to
replace
a
debit
card.
They
are
fees
that
we
do
not
see
in
any
other
financial
system.
D
The
general
fund
needs
to
be
funding
our
system,
our
prison
system,
not
the
families
of
the
incarcerated.
We
are
working
hard
to
develop
a
more
robust
report
and
explore
how
other
states
handle
these
issues.
If
you
have
any
questions
regarding
our
report
I'll
be
available
here
after
the
return
strong-
and
you
all
know
how
to
reach
me
via
phone
and
email,
I
implore
you
to
read
our
preliminary
report.
Listen
to
the
impact
and
members
of
return
strong
and
work
with
us
to
find
evidence-based
solutions
to
address
these
costs
of
incarceration.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
Good
morning,
chair
scheible
members
of
the
committee
tonya
brown
advocates
for
the
inmates
and
the
innocent
over
the
past
few
decades.
I,
along
with
advocates
pat
hines
flo
jones,
michelle
revelle
and
others,
have
worked
on
making
changes
for
the
lives
of
the
inmates
offenders.
Better
laws
were
created
that
were
instrumental
in
helping
the
offenders
with
the
help
of
the
advisory
commission
on
the
administration
of
justice.
We
advocates
through
the
public
comment,
were
able
to
have
our
voices
heard.
We
presented
our
good
ideas
to
the
committee.
Our
ideas
were
heard.
I
The
acag
established
the
grounds
in
submitting
a
recommendation
to
a
committee,
a
recommendation
submitted
to
them
to
not
have
to
be
placed
on
an
agenda
and
presented.
If
the
idea
was
a
good
idea,
it
did
not
matter
where
the
idea
came
from,
even
if
it
came
from
a
public
comment.
At
the
time
the
person
is
making
the
public
comment.
I
The
committee
is
aware
that
is
now
being
presented
to
the
committee
when
it
is
presented
to
them,
and
then
it's
heard
and
vetted
to
the
committee
under
the
public
comment,
the
committee
would
accept
recommendations
from
those
appearing
before
them.
Under
the
public
comment,
recommendations
were
discussed
just
as
though
they
had
been
placed
on
the
agenda
and
presented
to
the
committee.
Some
of
the
recommendations
passed
and
became
law
that
were
submitted
under
the
public
comments.
Some
did
not
some
would
be
picked
up
by
our
legislators
and
passed
and
became
law.
I
One
of
the
things
that
we
advocates
fought
for
was
to
have
an
independent
oversight
committee.
It
took
years,
but
we
were
successful
in
2011
when
sb
201
passed.
However,
the
bill
was
changed
from
an
oversight
committee
to
having
an
ombudsman
under
the
office
of
the
attorney
general's
in
2012.
I
brought
this
to
the
attention
of
the
acaj
that
passing
the
sb
201
had
not
been
implemented.
I
As
of
yet
mr
camp
was
asked
why
he
had
not
been
implemented,
and
he
said
it
was
due
to
the
lack
of
funding
about
three
years
ago
I
decided
to
look
into
sb
201
to
see
if
it
had
been
implemented.
It
had
not.
I
called
him.
I
I
called
the
attorney
general's
office
and
I
spoke
to
dag,
dag
christine
jones
brady.
She
was
not
aware
of
sb
201.
We
talked
and
made
arrangements
to
sit
down
to
discuss
the
ombudsman
bill.
I
How
could
how
it
could
work,
but
due
to
conflicting
schedules
in
her
part,
and
my
part,
we
were
unable
to
have
a
meeting
set
at
that
time.
Then
the
pandemic
hit,
and
I
was
sustained
in
injury,
and
I
forgot
about
the
sb
201
until
a
post
from
return
strong
appeared
across
my
facebook
page
regarding
their
organization
wanting
to
get
an
independent
oversight
committee
in
ndoc.
At
this
time.
I
would
like
to
thank
return
strong
for
that
post,
because
it
reminded
me
that
I
had
dropped
the
ball.
I
I
do
not
know
if
the
attorney
general's
office
actually
has
the
funding
that
to
pay
for
the
ombudsman
or,
if
there's
something
that
needs
to
be
funded
for
the
2023
legislature.
I
asked
this
committee
to
consider
the
agenda
items
that
are
being
presented
to
you
today
and
future
items
and
think
about
sb
201.
How
valuable
funding
it
would
be
for
s2
sp201
would
be
not
only
to
the
offenders
but
the
taxpayers
as
well,
and
I
will
read
you
the
bill
that
passed
in
2011..
I
The
attorney
general
may
establish
a
program
for
median
complaints
from
an
offender
concerning
a
administrative
act
which
is
alleged
to
be
contrary
to
law
or
policy
of
the
department
b,
significant
issues
that
relating
to
health
or
safety
of
offenders
and
other
matters
for
which
there
is
no
effective
administrative
remedy
to.
If
the
attorney
general
establishes
program
for
median
complaints
pursuant
to
subsection
one,
the
attorney
general
shall
a
by
regulation
establish
procedures
for
meeting
complaints
by
offenders
and
b.
I
Prepare
the
summit
prepare
and
submit
the
board
an
annual
report
on
one
complaints
mediated
through
the
program
to
a
total
dollar
amount
of
claims
asserted
in
complaints
meeting
through
the
program.
Three,
the
number
of
complaints
that
from
the
program.
A
G
Is
nevaeh
jackson?
I
am
13
years
old
and
I
am
an
activist
that
returns
strong.
I
was
supposed
to
go
on
vacation
with
my
grandma
this
week,
but
when
I
found
out
that
we
were
going
to
be
coming
here
to
talk
about
things
that
are
so
important
to
me,
I
asked
my
grandma
to
change
our
vacation
because
I
think
it
is
important
to
stand
up
for
what
is
right
and
to
stand
up.
G
D
D
D
G
Hello,
my
name
is
desiree
miller,
I'd
like
to
tell
you
some
of
the
challenges
in
providing
for
loved
ones,
while
they're
incarcerated
cost
is
the
number
one
issue
that
families
has
families
have
as
it
affects
our
ability
to
communicate,
have
funds
for
commissary
or
even
just
to
go
visit
for
our
loved
ones.
Communication
is
extremely
important.
It
keeps
them
connected
to
the
outside
world
that
most
of
them
will
be
returning
to.
G
It
gives
them
hope
and
something
positive
to
focus
on
the
cost
of
phone
calls
is
absolutely
ridiculous
and
with
the
price
we
pay,
they
are
not
even
reliable
many
times
the
phone
systems,
don't
even
work
because
of
the
high
costs.
We
are
not
able
to
communicate
as
often
as
we'd,
like
even
for
the
short
time
we
do
have.
We
have
to
sacrifice
our
own.
G
Even
for
okay,
we
have
to
sacrifice
our
own
needs
to
provide
for
that
communication.
Commissary
items
have
already
are
already
high
priced
and
in
the
last
year
they've
been
increased
multiple
times,
ndoc
is
making
a
profit
profit
off
of
us
and
that's
not
right.
The
means
this
means
having
to
send
even
more
money
to
support
our
loved
ones.
This
ridiculous
increased
cost
of
phone
calls
and
commissary
makes
it
difficult
to
be
able
to
visit
our
loved
ones.
G
We
have
to
make
a
choice
to
provide
those
funds
or
to
go
visit,
rarely
being
able
to
go
at
all.
Personally,
as
a
single
mom
of
two
kids,
I
work
hard
to
provide
for
my
kids
and
everything
they
need,
as
well
as
my
loved
one.
I
have
severe
medical
issues
and
have
had
to,
and
that's
made
it
even
more
difficult
to
be
able
to
provide
for
my
loved
one.
G
I
have
to
work
overtime,
cut
things
out
for
myself
and
have
you
ever
had
to
tell
a
child
that
they
can't
visit
or
talk
to
their
dad,
because
there
just
isn't
enough
money.
That
should
never
happen,
but
yet
it
does
no
matter
how
how
hard
we
work,
how
much
we
sacrifice
to
be
able
to
provide
the
system
takes
advantage
of
it.
These
costs
need
to
become
more
reasonable
and
changes
need
to
be
made.
Thank
you.
D
I
just
like
to
make
a
few
comments
on
mental
health
issues
in
our
detention
center
and
some
of
the
challenges
we
face.
First
of
all,
the
growing
number
of
people
that
are
being
booked
in
and
charged
with
offenses
in
the
mental
mental
mental
health
issues
they
present
as
a
challenge
in
itself.
D
One
of
the
biggest
things
that
we
see
is
when
a
person
is
going
through
the
court
process.
D
K
Hello,
I'm
kyra
harrison
and
I'm
here
with
return
strong
and
I'm
going
to
speak
about
the
costs
of
incarceration
and
share
my
own
story.
I
will
start
with
the
fact
that
this
case,
my
loved
one,
is
currently
incarcerated
for
occurred
in
the
past
and
it
wasn't
a
current
crime
it
occurred.
While
my
loved
one
was
struggling
with
addiction.
K
He
had
completely
turned
his
life
around
and
has
remained
sober
to
this
day
since
may
2019.
My
loved
one
became
incarcerated
for
this
crime
in
november
2021.
After
being
told,
he
would
not
go
back
to
prison
and
he
would
receive
probation
before
this
tragic
situation
occurred.
Our
family
had
finally
become
self-sufficient
and
had
pulled
ourselves
completely
out
of
poverty,
as
we
both
are
in
recovery
from
addiction.
Together,
we
raised
above
our
addictions,
homeless,
jobless
and
hopeless
way
of
life.
We
were
finally
living
with
no
state
assistance.
K
K
Talk
about
a
punch
in
the
stomach
as
we
worked
extremely
hard
to
accomplish
this
goal.
My
loved
one
was
the
main
provider
and
had
steady
employment
to
provide
for
his
now
family.
Our
family
includes
five
children.
Four
out
of
the
five
are
in
our
physical
custody
when
he
was
sentenced
to
prison
that
put
all
financial
responsibilities
in
raising
our
children
onto
me.
I
am
now
a
single
mother
to
four
children.
This
prison
sentence
has
thrown
me
back
into
poverty.
K
Do
you
realize
ndoc
is
making
a
serious
profit
off
the
families?
Do
you
realize
what
this
does
to
the
families?
Trying
to
survive
in
an
already
crazy,
expensive
world,
the
direct
result
is,
it
makes
families
of
the
incarcerated
have
to
choose
between
paying
their
normal
expenses
to
survive,
maintain
stability
or
receiving
a
phone
call
from
their
loved
one.
Ensuring
their
loved
one
has
enough
to
eat,
ensure
your
loved
one
has
clothes
and
proper
shoes
to
wear,
and
so
much
more.
K
K
The
cost
of
commensary
and
the
lack
of
proper
food
within
indioc
is
absolutely
sickening.
Why
is
indioc
making
a
profit
while
I
am
choosing
between
survival?
That
simply
seems
unfair
to
me
and
to
many
other
families.
Now
that
I
have
shared
with
you,
the
significant
impact
of
the
cost
of
incarceration
and
the
financial,
emotional
and
mental
impact
it
has
on
families
of
the
incarcerated
we
at
return
strong,
kindly
ask
the
legislators
of
nevada
to
please
immediately
intervene
and
stop
all
markups
and
profits
that
ndoc
is
making
from
the
hard-working
families
within
our
state.
K
A
K
K
D
Good
morning
chairs,
chair
scibel,
for
the
record,
my
name
is
kevin.
Ramft
asked
me
local
4041..
D
We
represent
correctional
peace
officers
in
the
state
of
nevada
for
the
nevada
department
of
corrections.
This
this
type
of
hearings
are
a
long
time
coming.
They
need
to
be
more
of
this
oversight
to
really
work
with
the
department
of
corrections
and,
of
course,
aspen
local
4041
and
other
groups.
That
really
have
a
say
in
this
matter.
D
Depart
in
this
regard.
Agenda
item
number
five.
Today's
presentation,
of
course,
in
regards
to
what
ndoc
will
be
providing,
is
just
a
small
segment
of
what's
really
going
on
in
the
department
of
corrections,
there's
a
lot
of
safety
issues
in
regards
to
the
staffing
shortage,
and
that's
really
what
we
want
to
talk
about
today.
We
can't
go
into
various
details
of
what
safety
concerns
are
happening,
but
really
there's
a
lot
of
details
that
need
to
be
said,
and
I
don't
know
if
it's
in
a
a
closed
door
meeting
or
what
needs
to
happen.
D
But
at
the
end
of
the
day,
our
correctional
officers
are
at
risk
and
therefore
inmates
are
at
risk.
So
it
really
has
a
lot
of
individuals
reaching
out
saying
a
problem
is
happening
within
the
department
of
corrections.
Now
is
the
time
recruitment
staff
shortages
are
a
major
problem.
A
lot
of
officers
are
going
to
other
agencies.
They
only
stay
with
the
department
of
corrections
for
a
very
short
time.
D
Now
is
the
time
we
have
to
do
something
recruitment,
whether
that
be
more
money
to
going
towards
recruitment.
We
need
to
start
filling
these
extremely
large.
Vacancies.
Stop
have
just
stop
being
a
training
ground
for
other
agencies.
We
need
to
start
being
showing
professionalism
within
within
this
this
department.
D
The
officers
feel
like
they're
going
there
and
they're
just
being
ridiculed.
They
can't
do
anything
right,
there's
a
lot
of
good
officers,
a
lot
of
good
administrators,
but
there
are
a
few
that
just
make
it
to
where
it's
just
not
a
very
safe
employment
to
work.
For
so
we
can't
keep
people
and
right
now
the
overtime
is
so
severe
that
it
just
causes
extreme
exhaustion
for
these
correctional
officers.
The
time
is
now
all
I
can
tell
you
is
agencies.
Other
agencies
are
paying
100
towards
their
pers.
D
We
have
to
start
looking
at
areas
that
really
can
make
a
big
difference
and
that's
going
to
be
ultimately
the
end
of
day
bringing
up
these
correction
officers
pay,
so
they
really
want
to
stay.
They
really
want
to
be
valued
work
in
these
communities,
not
other
states,
not
other
counties,
not
other
cities.
The
time
is
now.
I
started
looking
at
this.
Let's
work
together
with
the
department
of
corrections,
this
committee,
the
2023
legislative
session,
and
again
we
respect
the
opportunity
to
do
this.
D
We
were
asked
to
do
a
presentation
due
to
people
being
on
vacation.
That
did
not
happen
so
again.
I
just
want
to
do
public
comment
with
that
being
said,
I
can
tell
you
that
this
department
corrections
is
not
the
only
agency
that
has
staff
shortages.
Other
agencies
have
extremely
short
staffed
as
well,
but
department
of
corrections
really
brings
in
the
safety
concerns
and
again
the
time
is
now
safety
safety
safety.
Let's
bring
up
these
officers,
pay,
let's
make
them
feel
like
they're.
D
F
Now
you
can
hear
me.
Thank
you.
My
name
is
ann
cox,
I'm
a
resident
of
comstock
mobile
home
park,
a
senior
park
in
carson
city
I'll,
give
you
some
introduction.
During
the
2015
session
of
the
nevada
legislature,
senate
bill,
29
became
law,
granting
county's
limited
functional
home
rule.
That
is
a
limited
form
of
the
authority
to
pass
ordinances
and
act
upon
matters
of
local
concern
that
are
not
governed
by
state
or
federal
laws
of
note.
F
I
submit
the
following:
the
residents
of
comstock
mobile
home
park
have
again,
on
july,
1st,
been
given
notice
that
their
space
rent
will
be
increased
in
90
days
october.
The
1st
of
this
year
the
park
has
260,
plus
or
minus
paying
spaces
of
various
sizes
and
assorted
lot
size,
rental
fees,
space
rents
run
from
500
to
625
dollars.
Presently
of
importance.
F
F
F
We
have
heard
that
our
raises
are
similar
to
other
parks.
However,
that
only
means
that
seniors
elsewhere
in
the
thousands
are
experiencing
financial
hardship
in
researching
this
financial
issue,
I
have
found
similar
raised
rents.
Many
very
large
increases
in
all
senior
residential
parks.
Those
would
include
rv
parks
in
all
of
these
cases.
It
was
found
that
most
seniors
are
existing
on
social
security
funds
and
occasionally
a
retirement
fund
as
their
only
sources
of
income
subsidies
are
available,
but
they
are
really
humiliating
in
their
nature
and
are
used
only
in
extreme
cases.
A
F
A
All
right,
thank
you.
I
don't
see
anybody
else
in
carson
city
coming
to
the
table
to
give
public
comment.
Oh,
yes,
I
do
all
right
go
ahead.
D
My
name
is
angela
and
I
am
from
carson
city.
I
would
just
like
to
share
a
little
bit
of
my
story
and
why
I
think
there
needs
to
be
oversight
on
some
of
the
medical
care
in
ndoc.
D
I
was
an
inmate
at
florence,
mcclure
women's
corrections
center
in
2009.
I
also
did
three
months
at
nncc
before
they
transferred
us
to
the
women's
prison.
D
D
D
D
I
pushed
the
medical
button
to
get
some
attention
because
I
felt
like
I
was
starting
to
have
a
panic
attack.
My
panic
attacks
are
very,
very
severe.
They
told
me
that
they
would
send
somebody
they
never
did.
I
pushed
the
button
at
least
12
times.
Nobody
ever
came,
and
eventually
they
just
stopped
answering.
D
I
just
feel
like
if
there
was
more
attention
on
the
medical
care
that
there
would
be
less
outbreaks
in
the
prison,
because,
yes,
I
became
very
angry.
I
wasn't.
I
wasn't
on
my
medication
and
nobody
came
to
even
check
on
me,
so
you
can
imagine
what
no
fresh
air,
no
medication,
someone
abruptly
stopping
the
medication,
can
do
to
somebody
with
their
mental
health.
A
L
And
murray
grant
advocates
for
the
inmates
in
the
innocence
good
morning.
I
would
like
to
request
that
you
support
our
recommendations
for
the
inmates
and
the
innocent,
particularly
our
petition
for
factual
innocence
posthumously.
L
I
I'd
like
to
reference
ray
krohn,
an
exonerees
letter
that
was
submitted
to
the
former
acha
in
2020.
He
wrote,
I
don't
ask
you
to
imagine
what
those
10
years
in
prison
were
like
for
me.
I
want
you
to
imagine
what
they'd
be
like
for
you.
If
it
were
your
son
or
daughter
serving
time
for
a
crime
they
didn't
commit
at
what
point,
would
you
stop
fighting
to
clear
their
name?
L
There
is
a
stigma
that
comes
along
with
being
a
family
member
of
someone
that
has
been
wrongfully
convicted.
Think
about
mr
demolo
barry
and
others
who
have
been
exonerated.
Had
they
passed
away
before
they
were
exonerated
would
would
we
have
would
it
have
been
right
to
deny
them
their
their
exoneration
emery
grant
as
a
public
citizen,
sister,
thomas
purdy,
murdered
by
reno
police
and
washington
county
sheriff's
office
october
8,
20
2015.?
L
I
M
A
L
A
L
Hi
good
morning,
excuse
me,
my
name
is
kathy.
My
27
year
old
son
is
incarcerated,
sure
camp
and
I'm
here
in
on
support
of
return
strong.
I
want
to
share
two
different
medical
incidents
that
the
ndoc
have
allowed
to
occur.
My
son
has
several
heart
conditions,
one
being
burgata
syndrome,
which
is
a
sudden
death,
cardiac
arrest.
L
Back
in
march,
his
defibrillator
went
off,
causing
him
to
have
a
grand
mal
seizure
with
witness
accounts
he
laid
on
the
floor
for
over
20
minutes
as
raising
his
own
vomit,
while
medical
argued
among
themselves
of
how
to
transport
him
back
to
the
clinic
after
three
hours
in
the
clinic
he
was
transferred
via
ambulance
to
the
hospital
he
was
placed
on
a
ventilator
to
sustain
his
life.
He
was
on
life
support
for
nine
days
six
days
into
his
ventilator.
L
I
finally
got
noticed
only
because
I
knew
something
was
wrong
and
I
pushed
hard
for
information
from
the
medical
director.
The
first
words
we
were
told
on
day
six.
His
diagnosis
was
that
he
was
in
grave
condition.
The
second
incident
was
in
may.
He
was
brought
over
to
nncc
for
a
scheduled
visit
officer
on
duty,
told
him
to
walk
through
the
metal
detector.
L
He
politely
told
officer
the
officer
that
he
had
an
implanted
device
and
he
was
not
able
to
go
through
the
detector
due
to
it
would
produce
an
unneeded
shock
to
his
heart.
The
officer
stated
quote
and
excuse
my
language
either
walk
through
the
metal
detector
or
go
to
the
hole
unquote,
he
walked
through.
He
got
shocked
and
he
continued
to
get
shocked
throughout
the
day.
This
causes
undue
stress
and
irreversible
muscle
damage,
causing
long-term
negative
effects
on
his
already
sick
heart.
L
The
nds
dndoc
has
caused
irreparable
damage
to
his
already
sick
heart,
with
no
accountability.
The
ndoc
has
done
little
to
nothing
to
educate
their
staff.
It
is
cruel
and
unusual
punishment
to
subject
any
inmate
with
medical
neglect.
Families
and
loved
ones
should
have
the
right
to
be
notified
of
imminent
death
or
severe
illnesses.
L
L
Thank
you,
hello,
everybody.
This
is
julia
raddy,
I
first
say
a
warm
hello
to
all
of
you.
I'm
here
to
make
public
comment
today
on
item
number
four
regarding
the
crisis
response
call
centers,
I'm
the
chair
of
the
washoe
regional
behavioral
health
board,
though
I
would
note
that
I'm
here
today,
speaking
as
an
individual,
because
the
board
has
not
taken
a
position-
and
I
am
the
director
of
programs
and
projects
at
the
washoe
county
health
district,
where
we
are
working
with
a
community
coalition
working
towards
standing
up
a
reformed
crisis
response
system.
L
First
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
the
legislature
for
all
of
the
work
in
the
last
session
to
move
towards
this
model
I'll
remind
everybody
that
what
we
need
to
be
successful
is
a
system
of
care
for
somebody
who's
experiencing
a
crisis
that
includes
that
high
touch
and
high-tech
call
center.
That
can
do
text
chat
and
phone
calls.
L
We
also
recognize
that
we
need
good,
trained
individuals
working
within
law
enforcement
for
those
calls
that
require
a
public
safety
response.
I'm
here
to
report,
there's
been
some
great
progress
july
16th
will
be
an
exciting
day
when
988
goes
live.
We
will
have
we're
very
thankful
to
the
interim
finance
committee
for
the
funding
that
was
allocated
to
support
several
aspects
of
the
system,
but
specifically
the
four
crisis
response
centers
that
will
be
stood
up
come
in
the
next
year
and
we're
very
excited
to
see
more
work
happening
on
the
mobile
crisis
teams
and.
L
A
planning
grant
that
the
state
has
to
continue
to
work
on
standing
up
mobile
crisis
teams.
I'm
just
here
to
urge
the
committee
on
judiciary
to
do
everything
that
they
can
to
support
those
working
in
the
field
of
health
and
human
services
to
stand
up
this
model
so
that
we
can
divert
more
folks
from
emergency
rooms
but,
of
course,
also
divert
folks
from
jails
and
prisons.
We
would
like
to
see
our
behavioral
folks
experiencing
behavioral
health
challenges,
get
the
behavioral
health
services.
They
need
again
thanks.
A
All
right,
thank
you
so
much.
I
think
that
that
last
comment
from
senator
ratty,
who
is
so
nice
to
have
with
us
again,
is
the
perfect
transition
into
our
next
agenda
item.
As
I
mentioned
before,
we
won't
be
addressing
agenda
item
number
three.
We
will
be
going
to
agenda
item
number
four,
which
is
a
conversation
about
crisis
response,
call
centers
and
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
to
our
partners
at
ncsl,
ms
brian,
to
lead
us
through
that
conversation.
B
B
In
recent
years,
state
lawmakers
have
been
working
to
further
efforts
to
connect
justice
system,
stakeholders
and
health
system
stakeholders
with
the
goal
of
linking
systems
and
better
leveraging
resources
across
sectors
today
I'll
be
covering
alternative
models
of
response
and
connection
to
treatment.
While
focusing
on
a
few
state
legislative
examples.
B
More
often
than
not,
these
models
or
programs
are
developed
at
the
local
level,
but
on
occasion,
state
law
does
play
a
role,
even
in
states
with
legislation
authorizing
programs
statewide.
The
exact
elements
of
each
model
are
unique
to
each
community
based
on
what
local
resources
are
available
and
which
local
stakeholders
are
involved
in
the
program.
B
B
Nationally
deflection
is
growing
both
in
terms
of
actual
programs
that
are
operating
as
well
as
in
relation
to
state
legislative
interest.
Surveys
of
deflection
programs
recently
conducted
by
the
center
for
health
and
justice,
give
us
a
better
picture
of
the
types
of
programs
currently
in
operation
across
the
country.
B
B
More
than
half
facilitate
warm
handoffs
or
direct
connections
to
treatment
for
individuals
and
65
percent.
Further
facilitate
engagement
and
treatment
by
providing
for
transportation
to
a
client's.
First
appointment
now
I've
linked
the
surveys
in
the
slide,
and
you
can
click
through
to
explore
and
learn
more
about
these
programs.
Beyond
these
few
key
highlights
that
I've
touched
on
this
morning
now
I
will
discuss
some
specific
models
and
provide
relevant
state
legislative
examples.
B
The
first
model
we
will
look
at
is
crisis,
intervention
teams
or
cits
crisis.
Intervention
teams
are
composed
of
experienced
law
enforcement
officers
who
volunteer
to
receive
specialized
training
to
respond
to
mental
health
calls
these
officers
are
dispatched
to
mental
health
calls
or
can
assist
other
law
enforcement
officers
who
are
not
cit
trained.
B
prior
to
this
legislation.
Kentucky
already
had
crisis
intervention
team
training
in
place
for
law
enforcement,
but
this
legislation
expands
training
to
include
firefighters,
montana,
expanded
the
types
of
stakeholders
who
can
utilize
grant
funds
for
crisis
intervention
to
include
advocacy
groups
as
well
as
mental
health
and
community
providers.
In
addition
to
law
enforcement
with
the
enactment
of
senate
bill,
722
new
jersey
created
the
arrive
pilot
program
which
facilitates
accessible
crisis
intervention,
mental
health
screening
or
other
support
for
individuals
experiencing
a
mental
health
crisis
who
have
contacted
or
are
engaging
with
law
enforcement.
B
Looking
at
colorado,
the
state
initially
authorized.
Co-Response
programs
in
2017.
programs
now
exist
in
44
of
colorado's
64
counties,
senate
bill
207,
appropriated
funding
to
support
a
crisis
response
system
that
includes
creating
opportunities
for
mental
health
professionals
to
be
embedded
with
first
responders
outcome.
Data
from
the
most
recent
fiscal
year
shows
that
of
the
calls
in
which
a
co-response
team
was
dispatched.
B
B
B
B
B
B
A
All
right,
thank
you.
So
much
can
we
just
get
a
quick
introduction,
since
we
are
in
a
virtual
format
of
who's
here
to
answer
questions.
B
D
And
chair
scheible
I'll
jump
in
I'm
amber
widgery,
I'm
a
program
principal
with
the
national
conference
of
state
legislatures
and
I'll.
Let
my
colleague
tammy
introduce
herself.
We
also
have
folks
from
policy
research
associates
and
also
colorado,
representative
harrod
as
well.
So
we
can
do
questions
now
or
we
can
do
questions
at
the
end.
Whatever
is
most
convenient
for
the
committee.
M
I
think
we'll
go
to
ashley
and
then
representative
herrod.
M
Good
morning,
chair
schaible
members
of
the
committee,
and
thank
you
for
inviting
me
to
speak
with
you
today.
My
name
is
ashley
kreider
and
I
work
for
policy
research
associates
which
is
based
outside
of
albany
new
york
for
those
that
are
not
familiar
with
pra.
We
are
a
national
leader
in
behavioral
health
and
we
provide
technical
assistance,
training,
research
and
policy
evaluation
focused
on
several
content
areas,
including
mental
health
and
substance,
use,
homelessness
veterans
and
their
families,
income
supports
and
the
adult
and
juvenile
justice
systems.
M
Today
I
was
asked
by
ncsl
to
talk
about
what
we
know
about
what
works
regarding
crisis
response
models,
specifically
those
that
minimize
contact
with
law
enforcement
through
a
co-responder
or
alternative
response.
So
I'm
going
to
highlight
several
additional
jurisdictions
that
have
evaluated
their
programs
and
had
successful
outcomes
across
a
variety
of
factors.
M
I
also
have
a
colleague
president,
virtually
regina
herder,
who
can
help
answer
questions
about
the
denver
star
model.
As
I
know,
there's
particular
interest
in
that
program.
She
previously
served
as
the
executive
director
of
the
denver
office
of
behavioral
health
strategies
and
crime
prevention
and
control
commission
and
still
lives
in
denver
and
is
quite
familiar
with
their
model.
M
So
why
alternative
response?
First,
I
just
want
to
briefly
set
the
foundation
as
to
why
jurisdictions
are
interested
in
alternative
response
models.
We
know
that
individuals
with
mental
illness
and
disabilities
and
people
of
color
represent
a
disproportionate
number
of
people
arrested
and
jailed
each
year.
We
also
know
that
utilizing
police
and
the
criminal
justice
system
or
emergency
rooms,
as
the
default
response
for
individuals
with
mental
needs
or
with
needs
excuse
me
related
to
homelessness,
poverty
and
untreated
mental
health
and
substance
use
is
a
very
costly
and
often
ineffective
system.
M
We
also
know
that
people
call
9-1-1
for
a
variety
of
situations
and
there's
research
from
multiple
studies
to
show
that
between
a
quarter
and
two-thirds
of
the
9-1-1
calls
involving
disorder,
mental
health
and
non-criminal
complaints
could
be
directed
to
mental
health
crisis
experts
and
other
sorts
of
civilian
first
responders,
with
more
relevant
expertise
to
summarize
kind
of
the
general
state
of
the
research,
and
this
was
echoed
earlier
by
kate.
Despite
the
widespread
interest,
we
know
that
there
is
not
a
lot
of
quantitative,
rigorous
evaluation
for
these
models,
specifically
randomized
controlled
trials.
M
We
also
know
that
there
is
a
wide
variety
of
implementation
models,
as
you've
already
heard
today,
and
that
is
not
necessarily
a
negative
element
due
to
the
fact
that
communities
are
very
different.
Obviously,
a
more
rural
community
has
quite
different
populations
and
needs
potentially
than
an
urban
setting.
So
all
of
that
adding
to
a
wide
variety
of
models,
though
difficult
to
summarize
research.
M
Most
of
the
existing
research
now
does
surround
crisis
intervention,
team
training
or
cit,
and
I
believe
you'll
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
that
later.
There
is
a
body
of
research
around
the
correspondent
model,
in
particular
leaking
law
enforcement
with
behavioral
health
staff,
and
that
shows
that
the
co-responder
model
can
reduce
transports
to
emergency
departments
when
people
do
not
need
that
level
of
care,
also
increased
service
access
and
engagement
and
save
law
enforcement
and
other
first
responders.
M
Their
conservative
estimate
is
that
they
divert
about
five
to
eight
percent
of
calls
from
police
and
using
data
from
2020,
with
over
17
000
calls
kahoot
staff
needed
to
call
the
police
in,
in
only
311
cases,
for
backup
so
311
compared
to
that
over
17,
000
number
and
in
in
most
cases
those
calls
for
backup
were
due
to
foods,
responding
to
calls
that
would
be
typically
more
police-centric
like
a
criminal
trespass
versus
other
sorts
of
kahoot-centric
calls
like
welfare,
public
assistance
and
things
like
that.
M
They
also
highlight
that
there
have
been
zero
staff
injuries
caused
by
clients
whose
also
has
looked
at
cost
savings
data
due
to
the
lower
cost
of
their
program
versus
the
traditional
police
or
fire
department
response,
and
they
have
estimated
that
it
saves
taxpayers
about
eight
and
a
half
million
dollars
in
public
safety
spending.
An
additional
14
million
in
ems
costs
such
as
ambulance
transport
and
er
services
and
they've
also
calculated
savings
around
medicare
costs.
M
The
second
model
is
the
star
model
that
was
already
mentioned
today
out
of
denver,
and
there
are
a
couple
of
evaluations
available
based
on
the
star
model.
The
first
is
a
six-month
pilot
that
was
most
recently
evaluated
through
a
stanford
study
and
the
other
one
is
a
one-year
of
operation
study
in
which
almost
1400
calls
were
served
by
star.
M
They
showed
that
the
response
time
from
the
star
team
versus
the
traditional
law
enforcement
response
was
faster
to
these
sorts
of
calls,
and
they
also
transported
more
frequently
to
community-based
services
versus
emergency
departments
or
jails
when
compared
to
denver
pd
response,
so
that
stanford
study
that
was
just
released
looks
at
the
first
six
months
of
operation,
and
I
want
to
highlight
a
couple
of
things
from
that
study.
Interestingly,
they
looked
at
drops
in
low-level
crimes
in
both
pre
and
post-star
implementation.
M
Those
are
crimes
such
as
trespassing,
public
disorder,
other
sorts
of
things,
and
there
was
saw
a
34
drop
in
those
low-level
crimes.
One
star
was
in
operation,
so
that
is
about
1400
fewer
low-level
criminal
offenses
and
those
were
attributed
both
to
star
responding
as
opposed
to
law
enforcement,
which
naturally
led
to
less
citations
and
arrests,
but
also
to
actual
reductions
in
crime,
which
is
an
important
distinction.
M
Interestingly,
there
was
also
notable
evidence
for
what
was
termed
spillover
benefits
so
reduction
again
of
these
low-level
crimes,
even
when
the
star
program
was
inactive,
so
outside
of
star
hours
of
operation
as
it's
not
24
7.,
and
then
they
also
looked
at
cost
savings.
So
star
is
roughly
four
times
cheaper
to
operate
than
the
traditional
again
law
enforcement,
criminal
justice
response
process,
and
I
also
have
data
as
of
last
friday.
So
this
is
the
entire
length
that
star
has
been
operational.
M
They've
had
just
under
5
000
calls
for
service,
and
none
of
those
calls
required
assistance
of
denver
police
for
safety
reasons,
which
is
one
of
the
first
questions.
I
think,
when
we're
looking
at
different
response
models,
also
going
to
highlight
about
a
lot
of
san
francisco,
their
street
crisis
response
team,
which
was
created
through
city
and
county
legislation
in
year,
one
they
received
5300
calls
and
that
equaled
about
41
of
the
mentally
disturbed
persons
or
the
mental
health
related
call
code
from
police.
M
Only
69
of
those
were
or
69
were
non-violent
and
did
not
require
restraint
so
again,
pointing
towards
that
small
level
of
calls
that
required
a
police
response,
in
addition
to
scr
and
potentially
had
a
violent
interaction-
and
you
can
see
in
this
chart
here
the
number
of
calls
that
has
grown
over
the
years
since
scr
has
been
active.
M
This
study
also
looked
at
the
number
of
involuntary
holds
that
were
necessary
for
mental
health.
Only
seven
percent
of
of
the
calls
that
sci
responded
to
and
within
that
seven
percent
again,
a
small
number
27
of
involuntary
holds
due
to
the
fact
that
the
person
may
pose
a
danger
to
others.
The
other
rest
of
the
percentages
were
folks
that
were
either
gravely
disabled
or
potentially
danger
to
themselves.
I'm
so
kind
of
reiterating
that
point.
M
There
was
also
a
faster
response
time
due
to
the
fact
that
this
is
a
dedicated
response
to
crisis
calls
versus
police
department
for
similar
priority
calls
in
portland
oregon.
There
is
a
one-year
evaluation
available
of
their
program.
They
responded
to
903
incidents
and
91
of
those
would
have
been
traditionally
responded
to
by
police.
The
other
nine
percent
would
have
been
by
fire
or
ambulance
and
of
those
903
incidents.
89
of
calls
required
no
additional
co-response,
so
no
additional
police
or
fire
or
ambulance
services.
M
M
Interestingly,
also
due
to
this
program's
follow-up
capacity
and
case
management
services,
there
were
nine
clients
during
this
year
that
obtained
permanent
housing
due
to
their
engagement
with
psr,
and
I
also
would
like
to
point
out
that
psr
has
a
really
robust
database
available
on
their
website
with
outcome
data,
and
you
can
look
at
that
dashboard
for
more
information.
M
Pilot
available
about
20
to
23
of
mental
health
coded
calls
to
9-1-1
are
routed
to
be
heard
and
they've
seen
similar
percentages
after
that
six-month
pilot
generally,
this
model
has
resulted
in
fewer
hospitalizations
and
again
more
leakages
and
engagement
and
community-based
care,
which
we
know
is
cheaper
and
better
for
the
person
that
doesn't
need
that
high
level
of
care
within
that
800
excuse
me,
684
cases
the
be
heard
team
requested
police
assistance
only
34
times
and
of
that
3432
were
to
transport,
someone
to
the
hospital
versus
only
two
instances
of
safety
concerns
and
again
similar
quarter,
one
of
2022
data,
less
people
transported
to
a
hospital
than
without
the
herd
model
which
speaks
to
the
lower
level
of
care
needed.
M
I'd
like
to
highlight
a
co-response
model
as
well.
Most
of
the
others
that
we've
talked
about
are
some
sort
of
mobile
crisis
model,
but
to
pair
the
officer
with
a
licensed
mental
health
commission,
los
angeles,
california,
has
33
met
teams
covering
42
cities,
a
large
spread
of
area
and
in
their
2020
annual
summary.
They
responded
to
about
10
10
470
cases
again
involving
mental
illness
and
developmental
disability.
M
The
met
units
also
aided
in
de-escalation
of
51
incidences
where
the
tactical
team
would
have
been
called,
which
is
a
very
costly
response
if
it's
not
needed,
and
the
med
teams
also
are
able
to
respond
to
jails
and
court
lockups.
So
they
responded
to
288
requests
of
this
sort
and
were
able
to
help
resolve
84
of
those
with
no
uses,
of
course,
which
is
a
really
remarkable
statistic.
M
Los
angeles
also
looked
at
cost
savings.
They
have
some
data
from
2018
2019
about
4
million
saved,
and
I
also
wanted
to
point
out
that
the
met
teams-
this
corresponds
model,
is
not
the
only
response
model
in
la
they
also
have
an
unarmed
civilian
psychiatric
mobile
response
team
to
meet
folks
that
that
want
that
that
sort
of
need
so
correspond
is
not
the
only
model
in
la,
but
it
has
seen
some
really
good
outcomes.
M
Also,
there
are
some
co-located
models
that
I
wanted
to
highlight
briefly
and
I'll.
Just
summarize,
these
statistics
here
these
are
co-locations
of
behavioral
health
staff
at
the
9-1-1
dispatch,
centers
or
psaps,
and
generally
they've
resulted
in
incidences
of
diversion
from
jails
and
emergency
departments.
Again
we
see
cost
savings
here,
both
in
traditional
first
responders
time
and
money
and
then
also
in
la
there
are
virtual
co-location
opportunities
due
to
the
again
large
large
area
of
land
there.
M
Finally,
I
would
like
to
highlight
a
couple
of
rural
models,
acknowledging
that
what
works
in
las
vegas
might
be
very
different
from
other
areas
of
nevada,
so
harris
county
texas,
which
does
include
houston
but
also
a
wide
spread
of
area,
has
the
core
model
using
tablets
to
access
clinicians.
Virtually
so
officers
are
able
to
use
those
tablets
via
telehealth
and
connect.
Folks
in
the
field
with
clinicians,
there
was
a
one-year
study
of
this
program
and
officers
were
asked
several
questions.
M
63
percent
of
officers
said
that
they
would
have
transported
the
person
to
an
emergency
department
if
the
core
program
and
telehealth
was
not
available.
73
percent
of
officers
said
the
commission
helped
de-escalate
the
situation
and
71
helps
them
handle
the
call
in
a
shorter
period
of
time.
So
again,
all
of
this
translates
to
to
time
and
cost
savings,
and
you
can
see
some
of
that
information
here.
M
Finally,
another
role
model
is
in
teller,
county
colorado.
This
is
a
world
mounting
community
and
they
for
several
years,
have
been
operating
the
mental
health
assessment
program
or
map.
This
is
a
paramedic
behavioral
health
response.
That
is
an
alternative
to
an
ambulance
response
which
is
more
costly
and
they
have
an
evaluation
of
five
years,
they've
seen
about
1100
clients
and,
interestingly,
they
also
respond
to
schools.
M
So
16
of
those
clients
served
are
under
the
age
of
16.,
generally
they've
seen
a
decrease
in
repeat
calls
for
service
individuals
that
would
be
making
repeat
calls
for
9-1-1
and
potentially
didn't
need
that
level
of
care.
They've
also
attached
some
cost
data
to
this
similar
to
other
sites,
so
they're,
looking
at
about
4
million
in
estimated
reduction
of
healthcare
costs,
as
well
as
savings
to
first
responder
agencies,
again
time
and
funds.
M
These
are
several
models.
Obviously
this
is
a
lot
to
digest
and
I
wanted
to
really
emphasize
a
couple
of
things
briefly
as
far
as
where
to
start
acknowledging
the
wide
variety
of
models
that
are
available.
So
one
of
the
first
things
that
we
really
emphasize
that
it's
vital
is
to
conduct
a
comprehensive
needs,
assessment
or
asset
mapping
similar
to
sequential
intercept
mapping
for
what
a
given
community's
needs
are
to
really
look
at
what
the
problems
are
that
you're
trying
to
solve
through
a
response
model.
M
This
could
include
analyzing
the
demand
for
public
safety,
looking
at
calls
to
9-1-1,
2-1-1
or
3-1-1
hours,
different,
zip
codes
that
are
but
they're
part
of
that
to
really
know
what
your
populations
are
and
whether,
for
instance,
there
are
high
incidences
of
folks
who
are
homeless.
M
Have
mental
health
substance
use
needs
whether
there
are
specific
substances
such
as
opioids
methamphetamines.
Things
like
that
also
vital
to
consider
early
on
is
the
level
of
community
involvement,
and
I
think
that
most
or
all
of
these
programs
credit
community
engagement
to
their
success,
so
engaging
the
community
both
early
on
in
design
and
planning.
Also,
implementation,
potentially
evaluation
is
really
key
and
then
finally
coordinating
with
existing
partners.
M
So
looking
at
who
is
already
operating
in
this
space
in
this
crisis
response
area
and
what
their
role
could
be,
how
to
sort
of
knit
those
partnerships
together,
you
can
see
here
on
this
diagram
is
again
highlighting
what
was
mentioned
earlier.
The
the
different
pieces
of
this
crisis
continuum
and
how
the
crisis
response
or
who
to
call
and
who
to
respond,
is
just
one
piece
of
it.
A
Thank
you
so
much.
It
was
brought
to
my
attention
that
I
might
have
been
a
little
bit
unclear
about
when
we
were
going
to
do
questions
because
agenda
item
number
four
actually
has
some
subsections
a
b
and
c.
So
I'm
going
to
ask
representative
harrod
if
you
would
be
so
kind
as
to
go
ahead
and
provide
us
with
your
insight
and
then
we'll
do
a
round
of
questions
and
then
we'll
move
on
to
our
presenters
from
the
department
of
public
and
behavioral
health.
So
I
hope
that
made
sense
and
representative
harriet.
N
You
thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee,
I'm
state
representative,
leslie
herron.
I
represent
house
district
8
in
denver.
I
previously
served
as
the
vice
chair
of
the
judiciary
committee
and
now
serve
on
the
joint
budget
committee
and
chair
of
appropriations,
but
I
take
off
that
hat
and
put
on
my
denver
leader
hat,
because
I
created
a
program
in
colorado,
specifically
in
denver
called
caring
for
denver,
which
funds,
mental
health
and
substance
misuse
programs
throughout
the
city
and
county
of
denver.
N
N
One
of
our
first
initiatives,
though,
was
to
get
starr
off
the
ground,
and
let
me
tell
you
what
happened
and
why
I
was
working
in
partnership
with
then
commander
payson,
now,
chief
paul
payson
and
looking
at
what
was
going
on
with
our
denver
jail
with
with
people
who
are
being
arrested
and
convicted
out
of
denver
and
going
into
state
corrections
and
looking
at
how
many
of
those
folks
had
severe
mental
health
issues
or
were
going
in
in
response
to
a
mental
health
crisis
call.
N
And
the
number
was
quite
astounding,
it
won't
shock
any
of
you
because
you've
been
doing
this
work
for
so
long.
But
what
we
know
is
that
the
majority
of
calls
that
are
being
taken
in
by
9-1-1
the
majority
of
folks
that
are
being
seen
in
our
jails
and
in
our
correctional
facilities,
are
suffering
from
mental
health
challenges
or
substance
misuse
issues.
And
so,
when
I
was
speaking
with
chief
payson
after
passing
caring
for
denver
with
his
support
and
help,
he
kept
saying
you
got
to
go,
see
this
program
out
in
eugene.
N
N
My
mind
was
blown
and
I
realized
that
we
could
actually
do
first
response
a
little
bit
differently
and
better
in
the
city
and
county
of
denver
and
now
throughout
colorado,
so
after
seeing
cahoots
and
doing
a
ride
along
with
them,
watching
how
the
cahoots
first
responders,
which
of
course
includes
a
mental
health,
professional
and
an
emt
worked
in
collaboration
with
local
law
enforcement
to
ensure
that
people
got
the
real
help
that
they
needed
the
right
response
for
the
issues
that
they
were
going
through.
N
I
worked
with
the
board
and
the
director
at
caring
for
denver
and
said
you
know
what
do
we
need
to
put
in
place
to
make
sure
this
happens,
and
at
the
time
the
city
council
wasn't
necessarily
on
board
the
mayor
wasn't
necessarily
on
board,
but
they
were
willing
to
give
us
a
shot,
but
they
needed
funding,
and
so
we
came
in.
You
won't
believe
this
with
about
240
000.
N
That's
it
to
start
to
start
star
in
denver.
We
focused
on
the
central
core
in
in
our
business
area,
downtown
area,
and
we
started
it
in
june
of
2020..
N
You
guys
remember
june,
of
2020
all
stuff
broke
loose
in
our
cities,
pretty
quickly
around
our
protest,
and
we
found
that
star
was
extremely
extremely
useful
and
needed
in
responding
to
some
of
the
crisis
situations
that
were
happening
on
the
ground,
whether
it
was
during
the
protest
or
doing
during
the
pandemic,
and
so
we
got
going
right
away
with
a
very
small
amount
of
money.
But
the
the
outcomes
that
you
heard
earlier
were
so
moving
that
we
have
now
made
star
citywide
and
what
I
said.
N
What
I'm
saying
is
so
moving
about
and
shocking.
Is
that
what
I
think
chief
payson
knew
right,
and
what
I
had
pulled
was
that
when
you
have
a
star
response,
when
you
have
the
ability
for
someone
to
call
9-1-1,
not
a
different
number
but
9-1-1
and
get
a
first
responder
who
was
an
emt
and
a
mental
health
professional,
you
actually
see
reducing
a
huge
reduction
of
the
number
of
folks
who
are
referred
into
the
correctional
system
at
all
and
that's
really
important,
because
in
all
of
the
stars,
I'm
sorry
all
of
the
calls.
N
Since
star's
inception,
there
have
been
zero,
zero
referrals
to
jail
and
zero
need
for
police
backup,
but
police
have
called
star
for
backup
multiple
times
and
many
times
they
respond
together.
But
what
I
want
to
note
for
folks
who
are
thinking
about
putting
a
a
co-responder
team
or
a
star
team,
or
whatever
team
in
their
localities
or
throughout
throughout
their
state,
is
you
really
have
to
understand
that
denver
does
not
only
have
star
denver
has
co-responders
which
caring
for
denver
also
funds?
N
We
have
case
workers
within
the
police
department
which,
karen
for
denver,
also
funds.
Fire,
is
also
trained
in
crisis
intervention,
because
when
you
call
9-1-1
a
first
responder,
the
first
person
who
arrives
on
scene
can
be
any
of
those
people
before
star
was
started.
When
you
called
9-1-1,
you
either
got
a
law
enforcement
officer
or
you
were
referred
to
the
to
the
medical
system
right
and
so
now.
Star
gives
a
third
option,
which
is
that
mental
health
provider.
N
The
other
thing
I
will
note
for
folks
who
are
looking
at
these
types
of
programs
is,
it
is
essential
that
star
is
built
in
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
it.
A
kahoot
star
is
built
in
to
the
911
response
system,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
people
call
9-1-1
when
they
need
help,
and
if
you
you
know,
want
to
call
or
say
me,
I
want
to
call
because
you
know
my
neighbor
is
going
through
a
mental
health
crisis.
N
I
might
call
mental
health
center
of
denver
or
I
might
call
an
alternative
number,
because
I
know
that
right,
because
I
know
that
is
an
option,
but
my
neighbor
across
the
street
is
probably
still
going
to
call
and
unless
they're
trained
together
and
unless
those
responses
are
coordinated,
you
will
not
have
the
same
outcomes
as
we
have
in
denver.
When
we
went
out
and
saw
cahoots.
It
was
a
team
of
folks
who
were
both
community
leaders
and
activists.
N
We
had
street
response
teams,
we
had
mental
health
professionals,
we
had
law
enforcement
and
we
had
9-1-1
and
harm
reductionists,
all
together
thinking
and
talking
about
how
we
can
make
care
star
work
throughout
our
city.
So
I
put
back
on
my
state
hat
and
I
went
to
the
legislature
shared
what
was
going
on
with
the
chair
now
chair
of
the
joint
budget
committee
and
talked
about
how
we
could
actually
save
the
state
dollars
if
we're
not
referring.
N
And
finally,
the
most
exciting
thing
that
I
want
to
mention
right
now
that
we're
working
on
is
getting
those
crisis.
Intervention
teams
getting
those
star-like
response
teams
into
the
jails,
but
also
into
alternative
facilities
where
people
can
can
go,
people
who
may
or
may
not
have
a
record
or
may
or
may
not
have
active
warrants
where
they
can
clear
their
warrants.
They
can
get
the
mental
health
or
substance
misuse
treatment
they
need
and
they
do
not
get
referred
directly
into
denver
county
jail.
N
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
joining
us.
Thank
you,
everybody
from
representative
harrod
and
everybody
from
ncsl
and
pra.
I
am
going
to
open
it
up
to
questions
now
I'll,
go
ahead
and
start
here
in
las
vegas.
I
see
senator
harris
and
just
a
reminder
we're
going
to
do
one
bite
at
the
apple,
so
you
can
ask
multiple
questions
but
think
of
them
all
very.
C
C
One
of
the
biggest
hurdles.
I
think
that
we
have
here
in
the
state
is,
is
funding,
so
I'm
hoping,
maybe
representative,
herod
or
any
of
the
ncsl
members
could
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
some
of
these
programs
are
funded,
whether
there
are
federal
dollars
out
there
that
some
of
these
programs
have
been
set
up
with
or
any
suggestions
you
all
have
on
how
we
get
this
kind
of
seated,
with
the
understanding
that,
of
course,
the
the
benefits
come
back
to
society.
You
know
two
three
four
times
fold.
N
Well,
thank
you
senator
harris
friend,
it's
good
to
see
you
and
madam
chair.
I
might
have
to
take
your
one
bite
at
the
apple
rule
for
my
members
as
well
here
in
colorado.
You
know
what
I
will
say
is.
I
want
to
note
that
we
are
the
largest
city
and
county
in
colorado
and
we
got
stars
started
with
to
a
240
270
000
investment,
so
our
statewide
dollars
are
about
3
million
and
yes,
they
are
asked
for
each
year.
So,
if
you
think
about
it,
the
investment
is
I
for
our.
N
You
know
we
have
to
pass
a
balanced
budget
every
year.
We
do
not
allow
dynamic
budgeting,
which
means,
I
can't
say
it's
going
to
save
money
and
spend
that
money.
Now
I've
got
to
prove
it
right
and
then,
maybe
in
the
out
years,
if
there
is
a
decrease
in
the
budget,
we
can
shift
resources,
but
you
know
we
can't
just
say
we
know
it's
going
to
cost
less
in
the
long
run.
So
let's
take
money
quote
unquote,
take
money
from
the
jails
and
put
it
into
our
no.
N
We
can't
do
that
can't
do
that
in
colorado.
So,
that's
not
how
we
look
at
it.
You
know
we
look
at
it
as
this
is
a
a
good
investment.
A
pilot
program,
like
anything
else,
give
us
5
10
15
million
dollars.
We
know
in
fact
a
lot
of
the
locals
are
already
doing
it.
So
how
can
the
state
partner
and
maximize
those
resources?
And
then
we
also
look
at
our
budget
say
in
behavioral
health?
N
You
know
how
is
our
department
of
behavioral
health
working
our
to
agency
working,
so
that
can
we
think
about
opening
up
a
current
grant
to
allow
local
behavioral
health
agencies
to
partner
with
their
local
law
enforcement,
to
create
these
types
of
programs
all
of
a
sudden,
then
you
start
to
see
millions
of
dollars
of
resources
flowing
into
our
counties
right
and
it
works.
N
I
don't
care
if
you're
a
democrat,
a
republican
conservative,
progressive
programs
like
star
work,
and
there
are
law
enforcement
officers
and
mental
health
professionals
and
providers
on
the
ground
that
want
to
see
programs
like
star
in
their
communities,
and
I
will.
I
will
also
urge
folks
to
push
on
co-responders
that
has
become
more
controversial,
especially
in
the
activist
community,
because
it
is
working
with
law
enforcement.
But
there's
no
response,
there's
no
response
that
we're
talking
about
here.
That
does
not
work
in
partnership
with
law
enforcement.
N
They
are
all
in
partnership
and
it's
so
very
important,
and
so
so
when
it
comes
to
the
funding
as
a
state
legislator,
I
think
the
investments
are
are
small,
quite
honestly,
but
they
allow
for
a
maximization
of
the
dollars
that
we
haven't
seen
before,
because
the
locals
are
so
hungry
to
do
it.
N
So
now,
in
denver,
denver
now
puts
in
over
a
million
dollars
so
that
star
can
be
city-wide
caring
for
denver's
investment
is
about
the
same,
and
we
don't
really
need
any
of
the
state
dollars
to
do
what
we're
doing,
but
we're
able
to
train
other
localities,
especially
smaller
localities,
and
how
they
can
do
star
or
co-responders
or
case
management
well
in
their
in
their
areas.
And
so
so
I
say
start
somewhere.
N
You'll
see
the
demand
is
quite
high
and
then
you
know
adjust
and
increase
based
on
that
demand,
but
do
allow
the
opportunity
for
those
local
governments,
especially
those
in
rural
areas,
especially
those
where
there
are
high
crime
and
high
need,
because
we've
seen
star
reduce
crime
by
34
percent,
and
this
is
petty
crime.
This
is
crime
that
affects
everyday
people
by
34.
D
Information
but
we've
seen
an
interesting
variety
of
funding
sources,
much
like
state
legislation,
much
like
the
individual
sort
of
programmatic
components,
it's
really
dependent
on
those
local
partnerships.
We've
seen
you
know,
programs
in
south
carolina
where
the
chamber
of
commerce
pitched
in
funds
to
states
leveraging.
N
You
know
medicaid
dollars,
so
I
think
that's
a.
C
Okay,
thank
you
all
so
much
and
it's
it's
great
to
see
you
as
well
representative,
thanks
for
always
giving
us
something
to
strive
for
here
in
nevada,
keep
up
with
the
work
you're
doing
in
colorado.
So
it's
good
to
see
you.
A
All
right,
I
don't
see
any
other
questions
here
in
las
vegas
assembly
member
o'neill,
any
questions
from
carson
city.
A
A
I
think
this
is
some
fantastic
information
and
I'll
look
forward
to
hearing
from
you,
ms
widgery,
with
some
follow-ups
on
on
funding
sources
and
ideas,
and
with
that
we
will
move
on
to
the
next
part
of
our
presentation
on
crisis
response
call
centers
with,
I
believe
dr
woodward
is
with
us
from
dpbs
dppbh,
the
department
of
public
and
behavioral
health.
Pbh,
okay,
go
ahead
whenever
you're
ready.
L
L
A
E
All
right
great
good
morning,
chair
scheible
and
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
stephanie
woodard
and
I
am
the
department
of
health
and
human
services
senior
advisor
on
behavioral
health.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
you
today
on
behavioral
health
crisis
services,
including
the
transition
to
98
the
crisis
response
system
and
the
intersection
of
crisis
response
with
law
enforcement.
E
However,
most
result
in
law
enforcement
response
and
not
a
medical
response.
This
has
contributed
to
high
rates
of
civil
commitments
and
increased
incarceration
on
any
given
day.
In
nevada,
we
have
approximately
90
adults
awaiting
admission
to
an
inpatient
unit,
while
awaiting
transfer
on
a
legal
hold
so
they're
waiting
in
our
emergency
rooms
nationally
over
2
million
people
with
serious
mental
illness
are
incarcerated
for
low
level
offenses,
which
makes
individuals
with
behavioral
health
issues
in
jails.
E
Three
to
four
times
higher
than
that
of
the
general
population,
nevada
has
consistently
fallen
within
the
top
10
states,
with
the
highest
rates
of
deaths
by
suicide,
with
some
populations
being
some
of
the
highest
rates.
Nationally,
many
individuals
struggling
with
suicidal
ideation,
do
not
receive
care
tailored
for
suicidality,
and
it
is
not
common
for
many
individuals
experiencing
thoughts
of
suicide
to
interface
with
systems
or
it
is
common.
Excuse
me
for
many
individuals
experiencing
thoughts
of
suicide
to
interface
with
systems
that
further
exacerbate
their
sense
of
hopelessness
and
helplessness.
E
E
E
Overall,
we
know
that
the
pandemic
has
increased
pressure
on
our
health
care
and
behavioral
health
systems,
leaving
increasingly
more
children,
youth
families
and
adults
with
unmet
behavioral
health
needs.
For
these
reasons,
and
many
others,
nevada
has
been
designing
the
crisis
response
system
in
earnest
since
2018.
E
E
Okay,
I
will
I'll
continue
from
here.
Then,
okay,.
A
E
Great,
thank
you,
so
the
work
that
nevada
has
done
as
it
relates
to
designing
their
crisis
response
system
has
been
informed
by
quite
extensive
work
in
an
enormous
amount
of
data,
collection
and
analysis
of
what
is
currently
available
in
our
communities
as
well
as
what
needs
to
be
available
in
order
for
us
to
be
able
to
have
a
robust
response.
E
So
I'm
going
to
speak
a
little
bit
about
988
because
I
think
for
most
people
this
may
just
be
something
that
you're
just
becoming
aware
of.
So
the
rationale
for
988
is
simple,
but
profound
individuals,
including
adults,
children,
youth
and
families,
experiencing
crisis.
E
However,
they
define
that
crisis
should
have
and
must
have
immediate
access
to
highly
trained
professionals,
responding
to
their
call
chat
or
text.
In
988
will
incorporate
all
three
modalities
for
contact
call,
chat
and
text.
E
While
we
currently
have
a
10
digit
number
for
the
national
suicide
prevention
lifeline,
we
are
converting
that
number
to
an
easy
to
remember.
Emergency
number,
similar
to
9-1-1
and
988,
is
expected
to
increase
the
number
of
calls
crisis
calls
to
our
crisis.
Call
center
in
nevada
from
30
000
in-state
contacts
in
2021
to
approximately
99
000
contacts
in
2024.
E
There
was
national
legislation
that
was
passed
in
october
of
2020,
requiring
the
conversion
from
the
current
10-digit
national
suicide
prevention
lifeline
number
to
the
3-digit
988
number.
This
legislation
also
enabled
states
to
establish
fees
or
surcharges
to
generate
revenue
to
support
the
development
and
sustainability
of
state-led
988
crisis
call
centers
through
legislative
action,
and
it
also
limited
the
use
of
such
revenue
that
would
be
generated
from
fees
or
surcharges
to
only
be
able
to
be
invested
in
98
and
crisis
continuum
services
and
supports
senate
bill.
E
Through
a
planning,
grant
and
nevada
has
convened
a
diverse
range
of
stakeholders
to
help
us
understand
what
we
need
when
it
comes
to
implementing
a
robust,
90-day
and
crisis
response
system,
and
this
plan
includes
an
implementation
strategy
for
funding
staffing
coordination,
community
engagement
and
communication.
E
I
want
to
pause
here
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
why
the
legislation
that
was
passed
in
nevada
is
so
important.
So
during
the
session
we
were
only
one
of
four
states
that
were
successful
in
passing
specific
legislation
that
allowed
for
nevada
to
establish
a
fee.
That
fee
is
currently
legislatively
capped
at
35
cents
per
line
per
month
and
that
fee
will
be
deposited
into
the
crisis
response
account
and
that
crisis
response
account
resides
within
the
division
of
public
and
behavioral
health.
E
We
are
currently
undergoing
the
regulatory
process
to
be
able
to
establish
that
fee
or
surcharge
on
telecommunications
lines
and
anticipate
that
the
surcharge
will
be
able
to
generate
revenue
to
not
only
continue
to
sustain
our
988
crisis
call
system,
but
also
to
help
to
bolster
mobile
crisis
services,
as
well
as
crisis
stabilization
services
within
our
state.
So
it
was
no
small
feat
to
move
this
legislation
in
through
process
to
it
becoming
a
bill,
and
many
thanks
to
senator
ratty
for
her
championship
of
this
legislation.
E
E
And
it's
it's
really
based
on
ensuring
that
we
have
a
crisis
system
that
is
available
as
a
community
support
that
it
is
grounded
in
strong
clinical
practices
that
it
has
an
array
of
services
and
capabilities
that
can
manage
individuals
for
a
range
of
different
issues,
as
well
as
individuals
from
different
populations,
and
that
we
are
consistently
providing
system
oversight
and
governance
evaluation
so
that
we
can
monitor
and
continuously
improve
the
health
of
our
crisis
response
system.
E
So
a
coordinated
crisis
response
system
has
many
different
components
to
it,
but
the
core
components
include
a
crisis
call
center,
where
you
have
someone
to
to
call
someone
to
talk
to
24
hours
a
day.
Seven
days
a
week,
as
I
mentioned,
we
currently
have
a
statewide
crisis
call
center
that
can
be
reached
through
the
national
suicide
prevention.
Lifeline
number
that
number
will
can
will
convert
to
the
three-digit
98
number
beginning
july,
16th
of
2022,
so
just
a
a
couple
of
short
weeks
away.
E
It
also
requires
a
crisis
response,
so
this
is
someone
to
respond
in
previous
conversations
in
earlier
testimony
today
you
heard
about
the
crisis
response
and
co-responder
models
that
are
happening
as
a
cascade
of
care
out
of
the
911
emergency
response
system.
When
we're
talking
about
mobile
crisis
teams,
here
we're
talking
about
a
cascade
of
care
that
is
established
through
the
988
crisis
response
system
and
there
is
differential
response.
E
So
when
someone
calls
988
in
a
behavioral
health
crisis,
if
it
is
determined
that
that
crisis
really
does
require
either
a
co-response
with
law
enforcement
and
behavioral
health,
or
if
it
really
does
need
to
become
a
9-1-1
response,
that
we
find
ways
to
make
sure
that
those
calls
can
be
transferred
back
to
9-1-1
for
an
adequate
response.
There
may
also
be
times
when
a
behavioral
health
mobile
crisis
team
is
on
site,
providing
intervention
and
they
do
need
a
law
enforcement
response
to
correspond
with
them.
E
This
also
has
required
medicaid
to
establish
a
rate
and
a
policy
as
well
as
our
health
quality
and
compliance
through
the
division
of
public
and
behavioral
health
to
develop
an
endorsement
for
hospitals.
So
these
are
crisis
stabilizations
affiliated
with
hospitals
licensed
as
hospitals,
which
really
do
provide
an
alternative
front
door
for
emergency
room.
So
you
can
think
of
these
as
psychiatric
emergency
rooms.
E
We've
worked
very
closely
with
states
who
have
implemented
implemented
very
similar
services,
and
what
we
have
found
is
that
the
the
success
is
really
predicated
on
how
quickly
they
can
help
to
move
individuals
into
their
services
while
never
turning
anyone
away.
E
So
this
is
a
hundred
percent
law
enforcement
drop-off,
where,
if
the
individual
is
appropriate
and
doesn't
need
emergency
medical
care
and
is
not
otherwise
really
better
served
through
the
judicial
and
criminal
justice
system
that
they
are
dropped
off
at
a
crisis,
stabilization
center
and
very
quickly
admitted
for
a
stabilization
level
of
care,
and
all
of
this
is
really
founded
on
essential
best
practices,
as
well
as
suicide,
safer
care.
E
E
While
we
continue
to
develop
mobile
crisis
teams
and
crisis
stabilization
centers
with
people
calling
at
988
or
the
crisis
call
center,
approximately
80
percent
of
those
crises
are
able
to
be
resolved
on
the
phone
for
those
that
are
not
able
to
be
resolved
on
the
phone
or
for
others
in
the
community
that
need
a
mobile
crisis
response.
E
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
mobile
crisis
response
teams
available.
Nevada
has
been
a
recipient
of
a
cms
mobile
crisis
planning
grant
through
the
centers
for
medicare
and
medicaid.
This
grant
will
allow
us
to
design
and
develop
both
the
funding
structure,
as
well
as
the
policy
necessary
to
establish
what
are
called
designated
mobile
crisis
teams.
E
Once
we
develop
these
designated
mobile
crisis
teams,
we
will
actually
be
able
to
receive
an
85
federal
match
on
the
services
that
are
provided
in
state.
This
was
really
an
effort
for
cms
to
come
in
alongside
states
to
support
the
development
of
the
critical
mobile
crisis
teams,
and
we
are
looking
forward
to
being
able
to
implement
those
teams
in
nevada.
E
In
addition
to
that,
the
crisis
stabilization
centers,
approximately
65
of
individuals
that
are
seen
in
a
crisis
stabilization
center
can
be
discharged
back
into
the
community,
with
85
of
those
typically
remaining
stable
with
community-based
care.
E
So
the
stamps
of
five
year
vision,
substance,
abuse
and
mental
health
services
administration
through
hhs
at
the
full
level
they
have
a
five
year,
vision
for
988
and
a
fully
resourced
crisis
care
system.
The
first
is
horizon
one
to
really
ensure
that
we
have
crisis
call
centers
in
every
state
that
have
the
capacity
of
answering
at
least
90
of
their
own
in-state
calls
by
the
end
of
2023.
E
Now
all
of
these
call
centers
should
be
connected
to
the
national
suicide
prevention
lifeline
network.
Our
call
center
in
state
is
already
affiliated
with
that
network.
It,
which
essentially
means
that
anyone
that's
calling
from
nevada
if
their
call
cannot
be
answered
quickly
by
our
own
crisis,
call
center.
That
call
center
rolls
over
to
other
national
suicide
prevention.
Lifeline
call
centers.
E
We
also
are
establishing
mobile
crisis
services,
as
I
had
mentioned,
with
the
federal
goal
of
having
states
have
mobile
crisis
services
available
to
80
percent
of
individuals
by
the
end
of
2025
and,
of
course,
aspiring
to
also
have
crisis
stabilization
services
available
for
community-based
care
for
80
or
more
individuals
by
2027..
E
The
good
news
is
is
that
I
believe
that
we
are
able
to
keep
pace
with
what
samhsa
has
set
out
as
their
five-year
vision,
because
we
have
done
such
essential
work
when
it
comes
to
securing
funding
and
establishing
some
legislative
initiatives
that
really
enable
us
to
move
quickly
in
nevada
to
begin
implementing
these
critical
services,
as
it
relates
to
the
coordinated
crisis
system.
There
are
a
number
of
national
guidelines
that
we
continue
to
use
as
we
develop
design
and
implement
these
systems.
E
But
essentially
it's
important
that
we
recognize
that
the
crisis
response
partnerships
with
law
enforcement
dispatch
in
emergency
medical
services
are
highlighted.
So
in
part
of
our
planning
for
988.
We
actually
have
had
a
988
911,
coordinating
subgroup
where
we
have
engaged
all
of
the
psaps
statewide
so
that
we
can
make
sure
that
we
have
these
conversations
early
and
that
we
are
collaboratively
planning
for
how
these
two
systems
will
work
in
conjunction
with
one
another
to
best
support
our
communities
and
individuals
who
are
in
crisis.
E
We
have
also
funded
nami,
so
the
national
alliance
of
mental
illness,
here
in
nevada
to
establish
worm
lines
they've
been
providing
a
warm
line
in
nevada
that
has
been
federally
funded
for
the
last
several
years
and
currently
take
approximately
1100
calls
per
month.
E
So
we're
seeing
a
really
nice
uptick
in
utilization
of
the
teen
text
line
I'm
not
going
to
go
too
into
depth
over
correspondent
models,
because
certainly
printers
prior
to
me
did
a
fabulous
job
explaining
what
correspondent
models
are.
But
I
will
take
this
as
an
opportunity
to
say
that,
as
we
are
developing
988
and
mobile
crisis
teams,
we
do
see
the
need
and
have
seen
the
need
to
continue
to
support
correspondent
models
which
have
the
collaboration
between
behavioral
health
and
law
enforcement.
E
So
co-responder
models
in
nevada
include
mobile
outreach
safety
teams,
as
well
as
ems,
led
mobile
crisis
teams,
and
I'm
gonna
go
into
some
of
these
so
intercept
zero,
as
was
presented.
I'm.
A
So
sorry
to
to
interrupt
you,
this
is
chair,
melanie
scheibel.
A
We
are
running
behind
schedule
at
this
point
and
I've
been
reticent
to
jump
in,
because
this
is
such
a
good
presentation
and
it
has
been
it's
such
important
information.
I
think
we
have
discussed
continuing
this
conversation
in
august.
The
reason
I'm
butting
in
right
now
is
that
it
sounds
like
you're
going
to
get
to
some
of
our
corresponding
teams,
and
maybe
some
of
the
most
teams
and
my
agenda
shows
that
we
actually
have
members
of
the
most
teams
here.
A
So
I'm
just
going
to
ask
that
we
have,
if
there's,
if
there's
something
additional
from
dpbh
about
like
the
funding
model
or
our
co-response
model
specific
to
nevada.
Specific
to
you
know
our
needs
to
implement
988.
We
definitely
want
to
hear
that
and
then
maybe
we
can
hand
it
over
to
the
members
of
the
most
teams
to
give
us
the
the
overview
on
on
their
programs.
Does
that
make
sense.
E
Okay,
yes,
absolutely
so
would
it
be
possible
for
five
more
minutes,
because
I
I
there
are
other
co-responder
models
in
nevada,
absolutely
that
I
just
want
to
make
sure
the
committee
is
aware
of.
E
So
intercept
zero
along
the
sequential
intercept
model
includes
community-based
crisis
services,
so
examples
of
deflection
here
in
nevada
include
the
call
centers
for
988
and
911
the
crisis
continuum
of
care.
As
I
had
mentioned,
we
also
have
state
funding
state
general
funds
that
goes
through
southern
nevada,
adult
mental
health
services
to
las
vegas
fire
and
rescue
for
their
crisis
response
teams.
E
This
is
a
fire
and
ems
led
co-responder
model,
and
it
has
demonstrated
enormous
success
so
much
so
that
they
have
been
able
to
move
from
one
team
to
five
teams
within
the
las
vegas
metro
area
and
would
certainly
be
willing
to
expand
that
reach
even
further.
E
We
do
have
mobile
crisis
teams
and
you'll
be
hearing
about
mobile
outreach
safety
teams,
crisis
intervention,
training
for
law
enforcement
is
available,
statewide
as
our
overdose,
education
and
naloxone
leave
behind
programs.
So
this
is
when
a
first
responder
is
in
the
community
and
sees
the
need
to
potentially
leave
behind
in
naloxone.
So
we've
been
supporting
that
initiative
for
the
last
several
years.
E
In
addition
to
that,
when
we
think
about
diversion
this
is
pre-arrest
pre-booking-
and
I
will
just
highlight
here
in
addition
to
what
we've
already
discussed
the
law
enforcement
intervention
and
for
mental
health
and
addiction
team
down
in
southern
nevada.
E
They
run
within
clark
county
through
las
vegas
metro
and
have
actively
connected
individuals
to
treatment,
as
well
as
additional
social
supports.
When
it
is
clear
that
treatment
is
really
the
the
highest
need
and
individuals
are
willing
to
connect
to
those
services
so
scheible,
I
will
sort
of
skip
the
rest.
But
I
will
just
add
that
nevada
is
very
well
positioned
to
be
able
to
be
prepared
for
the
implementation
of
988
july
16th
of
2022.
E
We
have
a
long-standing
crisis
call
center
and
that
we
have
a
strong
partnership
with
in
the
state
that
has
already
been
taking
statewide
calls
for
quite
frankly
decades
and
as
part
of
the
national
suicide
prevention
lifeline
network.
E
At
the
same
time,
we
have
had
an
enormous
investment,
both
through
federal
funding
that
we
have
received
through
supplemental
block
grant
dollars,
as
well
as
additional
funding
from
arpa.
So
we
have
a
total
of
just
over
seven
million
dollars
that
we
are
investing
in
a
request
for
funding
proposals
to
amplify
our
capabilities
for
our
crisis
call
center,
as
well
as
to
establish
what
we
would
consider.
E
A
very
high
tech
crisis
care
hub
that
crisis
care
hub
will
be
able
to
deploy
mobile
crisis
teams
into
communities
really
have
visibility
into
availability
of
behavioral
health
services
throughout
the
crisis.
Continuum,
so
that
we
can
ensure
that
individuals
are
getting
to
the
care
that
they
need
when
they
need
it
in
their
communities.
E
As
I
mentioned
before,
we
do
have
the
cms
mobile
crisis
planning
grant
and
we
have
set
aside
federal
funds
to
partner
with
that
grant,
to
invest
in
the
initial
stand-up
of
mobile
crisis
teams
statewide
as
well
as
jail
diversion
programs,
and
we
also
have
just
over
27
million
dollars
that
will
be
invested
in
establishing
crisis
stabilization,
centers,
20
million
of
which
was
just
appropriated
through
the
interim
finance
committee
through
arpa
funding
with
another
seven
million
plus
or
minus
a
little
through
additional
federal
supplemental
block
grant
dollars.
E
A
All
right,
thank
you
so
much
we
really
do.
We
do
appreciate
all
this
information
and
I
have
been
you
know,
reading
through
the
additional
slides
that
we
didn't
have
time
to
get
to
today,
and
I
think
that,
as
you
said
at
the
end
of
your
presentation,
we
are
really
well
positioned
in
nevada
to
implement
some
of
these
really
crucial
programming
components.
So
I'm
excited
to
to
see
that
and
we
will
have
a
follow-up
in
august
unless
any
of
the
members
have
crucial
time.
Sensitive
questions.
A
I
think
we're
just
going
to
move
to
the
next
presentation
and
that
would
be
from
our
most
teams
who
I
believe
are
present
in
carson
or
one
of
our
most
teams,
so,
I
believe,
is
present
in
carson
city.
I
Hi
good
morning
my
name
is
brittany
bowman.
I
am
a
licensed
clinical
social
worker
on
the
carson
city,
most
team,
and
my
name
is
israel
leola
and
I'm
a
deputy
with
the
carson
city
sheriff's
office,
so
in
part,
so
our
most
program
was
actually
created
in
2006.
I
There
are
currently
four
of
us,
so
there
are
two
lcsws
and
then
we
have
two
behavioral
health
peace
officers.
Can
you
talk
more
about
the
creation
we
started
working
with
a
clinician
back
in
around
2015..
I
The
way
that
it
was
started
was
just
a
clinician
that
would
go
out
with
a
deputy.
They
were
not
assigned
specifically
to
a
most
unit.
At
that
time
the
patrol
deputies
still
have
to
work
a
beat
and
then,
as
they
went,
went
on
if
there
was
a
call
that
it
was
more
of
a
mental
or
some
kind
of
crisis
related,
then
that
debt
and
that
clinician
would
get
this
dispatch
to
that
call
over
time.
I
They
saw
that
there
was
a
need
for
a
full-time,
deputy
and
clinician
to
just
work.
The
mobile
outreach
safety
team,
so
they
assigned
a
deputy
and
a
clinician
to
it.
So,
for
the
last
couple
years,
what
they've
been
doing
they've
just
been
responding
to
any
any
calls
that
are
related
to
someone
in
crisis.
Mental
calls
suicide
calls
so
they
would
take
9-1-1
calls.
Then
they
implemented
a
cell
phone
and
a
phone
just
for
the
most
unit
and
they
also
started
taking
calls
on
the
phone
as
well
the
cell
phone.
I
So
we
take
calls
from
they
take
us
from
9-1-1
the
crisis
line.
Other
resources
in
the
community
we'll
call
the
most
team
to
go
out
to
follow-ups
welfare
checks
and
now
moving
fast
forward
to
now
and
others.
We
came
on
board
last
year,
so
now
there's
two
teams
and
we
have
our
own
case
loads.
Like
I
said
we
follow
up
on,
we
get
the
911
calls.
I
We
get
the
follow-ups
from
deputies,
we
don't
the
most
team
doesn't
work,
24,
7.,
so
a
lot
of
times
we
get
referrals
from
deputies
from
swing,
shift
graveyard
and
then
the
following
day,
we'll
follow
up.
We
work
with
a
whole
bunch
of
resources
within
the
community
and
so
far
has
been
very
successful.
I
I
We've
had
672
deputy
referrals.
Our
community
has
referred
150
people
to
us.
We
have
only
arrested
three
people,
legal
holds,
we've
done,
73
44
voluntary
admits
our
jail.
Diversion
is
35
and
agency.
Networking
kind
of
like
a
lot
with
what's
been
presented
earlier.
Is
we
spend
a
lot
of
time
working
with
our
agencies
in
the
community,
because
it's
that's
what's
most
important
is
when
we
are
working
with
people
who
are
in
a
crisis?
We
need
to
be
able
to
get
them
treatment
right
here
and
right
now.
I
So
yeah
we
spend
a
lot
of
time
with,
like,
I
guess
you
guys,
wouldn't
know
our
resources,
but
with
all
of
our
resource
holders
in
the
community.
I
Let's
see
issues
the
only
real
issues
is
we
want
to
make
our
team
bigger.
We
do
have
a
deputy
who
really
focuses
on
our
homeless
population.
So
eventually
we
would
like
to
make
our
team
a
lot
bigger,
so
we
can
handle
more
and
be
more
successful
for
our
community
and.
A
Okay,
I
will
open
it
up
briefly
to
members,
for
you
know
really
good
questions
if
you
have
them,
so
anybody
online
or
in
carson
city
have
a
really
good
question
all
right.
I
have
not
seen
any
right
now,
which
again
is
not
because
we
do
not
really
really
appreciate
you
being
here.
Oh
hold
on
senator
harris
has
one
go
ahead.
C
I'll
take
my
best
shot
chair.
Thank
you.
So
my
question
is
for
the
the
social
worker
down
in
carson
city.
I'm
sorry
that
I
I
don't
remember
your
name,
but
thank
you
so
much
for
being
here
and
and
for
being
a
part
of
the
the
most
team
down
there
or
I
guess
up
there.
C
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
what
it's
like
for
you
to
go
out
on
these
calls,
given
that
you
are
not
a
law
enforcement
officer
and
if
you
feel
like
you're
well-equipped
to
kind
of
respond
to
these
things
and
that
other
social
workers
you
know,
would
be
safe,
joining
these
teams
and
and
expanding
this
kind
of
co-responder
model.
I
I
I
So
I
actually
ride
along
when
there's
days
when
he's
not
here,
I
will
just
go
jump
in
a
car
and
with
any
of
our
other
deputies,
and
I
can't
tell
you
how
thankful
they
are.
They
are
very
open.
I
leave
my
phone
open
to
them
anytime
when
I'm
not
at
work
and
I'm
like
hey.
If
you
have
a
call,
you
don't
know
what
to
do.
I
Call
me,
so
I
answer
calls
on
my
days
off
from
my
partners
just
to
try
to
help
them
navigate,
maybe
give
them
a
history
about
somebody
that
I've
worked
with
to
other
social
workers
who
want
to
do
this.
I
I
love
my
job.
There
is
so
it's
very
rewarding
to
be
able
to
help
people
in
that
moment
of
crisis
and
be
able
to
use
my
knowledge
and
my
skills
and
be
able
to
connect
them
with
resources.
C
A
I
agree
that
that
was
incredibly
helpful
and
maybe,
if
we
had
some
more
social
workers
on
staff,
you
wouldn't
have
to
answer
your
phone
on
the
weekends
or
on
your
days
off
so
often.
So.
Thank
you
again
for
your
presentation.
I'm
not
seeing
anybody
else
jumping
in
with
questions
at
this
point,
so
we
will
thank
you
all
for
joining
us
on
the
988
and
crisis
response
call
center
conversation.
A
This
is
part
of
an
interim
study
that
was
assigned
to
us
since
the
last
meeting,
and
so
this
is
our
first
look
at
the
questions
proposed
by
the
study
and
then
we
will
conclude
in
august
when
we
have
our
work
session
and
vote
on
bill
draft
requests
to
introduce,
and
that
brings
us
to
the
second
kind
of
part
of
our
agenda.
It
is
only
11
20,
so
we
got
back
on
track
and
I
don't
want
to
break
for
lunch
just
yet.
A
I
want
to
get
started
on
the
second
part
of
our
agenda,
which
is
addressing
the
department
of
corrections,
the
sentencing
policy,
commission
and
other
related
agencies,
and
I
think
I
said
that
one
wrong
the
department
of
sentencing
policy.
A
All
right,
I
stand
corrected.
We
I
did
miss
one
of
our
presenters
who
I
believe
is
online
and
that
is
the
washoe
county,
most
team,
my
apologies,
but
thank
you
for
for
speaking
up
getting
my
staff's
attention.
So
we
know
that
you're
here
and
I
will
turn
the
floor
over
to
you
now.
D
A
A
If
we
someone
next
to
me,
just
said
who
are
you
so
we
would
be
delighted
to
hear
from
either
or
both
washoe
county
and
reno.
O
Okay,
thank
you
and
committee.
My
name
is
ryan
collins.
Lieutenant
with
the
reno
police
department
with
me
is
christy
butler,
our
most
supervisor.
Just
to
give
you
a
little
back
story
about
our
team,
we
started
our
team
here
locally
at
the
reno
police
department.
O
In
the
early
2000s,
it
started
as
a
co-responder
type
of
a
team
pairing,
a
clinician
with
a
officer
immediately.
Our
region
saw
the
benefits
of
that
shortly
after
they
started
here
with
renewal
police
department,
they
transitioned
to
a
county-wide
assignment
where
they
work,
not
only
with
our
real
police
officers.
Our
sister
hd
works.
O
So
after
they
transitioned
to
the
county,
the
team
grew
exponentially.
I
think
everybody
saw
the
benefits
of
it
and
in
order
to
provide
the
best
service
to
our
citizens
that
we
served
at
the
real
police
department.
The
chief
chief
soto
directed
us
to
bring
the
team
back
in-house
and
able
to
focus
on
our
issues
that
we
have
here
at
the
reno
police
department.
O
I
believe
another
presenter
brought
up
a
good
point
of
where,
if
the
clinician's
tied
up
with
an
officer-
and
they
go
to
a
bank
robbery,
call
whatever
now
they're
tied
up
with
that
officer
for
for
hours
and
they're
no
longer
resourced
for
the
the
rest
of
the
community.
So
our
model
is
is
twofold:
when
you
have
the
correspondent
with
an
officer,
we
also
have
two
clinicians
that
respond
on
their
own.
O
Our
dispatch
two
calls
and
they
can
either
handle
the
call
if
they
feel
comfortable,
if
it's
a
case,
management,
type,
follow-up
or
they're
in
an
environment,
that's
safe
and
secure
for
them,
or
they
can
meet
officers
on
scene
stabilize
the
scene,
and
then
the
officers
can
respond
to
other
priority
calls
for
service.
O
So
they
operate
out
of
our
community
action
and
outreach
office,
which
I
oversee,
and
our
mission
from
the
chief
is
overall
just
reduce
calls
for
service,
so
whether
that's
homelessness,
repeated
violent
crimes
in
a
certain
neighborhood
or
mental
health
calls,
whatever
we
can
do
to
impact.
Those
calls
for
service
is
our
our
overall
mission
at
my
out
of
my
unit,
so
I'll
turn
it
over
to
christie,
to
talk
about
the
clinicians
and
their
credentials
and
what
we,
what
we
get
referrals
from,
and
that
kind
of
thing.
M
Yeah
so
like
the
lieutenant
said,
we
have
clinicians,
we
have
a
marriage
and
family.
D
Therapist
we
have
two
marriage
and
family
therapists
and
one
licensed
clinical
social
worker,
and
so
those
are
part
of
our
team.
D
Our
swing
shift
is
seven
days
a
week
and
again,
like
the
lt
said
that
is
our
clinicians
are
able
to
go
out
and
meet
officers
when
they
are
requested
for
issues
that
they
deal
with
a
lot
of
them
over
and
over
again
chronic
callers,
suicidals
individuals
who
are
in
crisis,
and
maybe
on
top
of
a
bridge
at
the
casino
or
a
garage
at
the
casino
who
are
considering
jumping.
So
our
team
is
called
to
that
as
well,
so
we
just
the
what
is
being
shown
right
here.
D
We
just
wanted
to
give
like
a
brief
overview
of
what
we
do
in
hitting
the
touch
points.
So
the
common
calls
for
service.
We
have
a
lot
of
our
individuals
who
are
suffering
from
mental
health
issues
can
be
chronic
problems
for
our
local
businesses.
So
we
try
and
reduce
those
calls
for
service
and
try
and
get
those
individuals
treatment
services
within
the
community.
We
we
wanted
to
list
some
of
the
other
duties
that
the
clinicians
have.
D
So
if
you
look
down
at
the
very
bottom
of
the
of
the
form,
the
other
duties
listed,
we
try
and
help
our
dispatch.
We
work
with
our
front
desk.
We
have
a
lot
of
our
community
members
who
are
experiencing
mental
health,
come
into
the
front
desk
of
the
reno
police
department,
and
so
the
front
desk
staff
can
be
overwhelmed
with
those
individuals
and
not
sure
what
to
do
so.
We
try
and
help
them
train
them
to
de-escalate
and.
D
O
And
probably
the
biggest
asset
internally
for
our
department
with
the
in-house
clinicians
is
the
training
of
our
officers
and
the
the
culture
shift
that
they're
able
to
provide
having
somebody
in-house
where
you
can
walk
down
a
hallway,
pick
somebody's
brain,
a
subject
matter
expert,
like
our
clinicians,
is
invaluable
to
our
officers.
Chief,
so
has
directed
our
entire
department.
O
They
can
get
referrals
back
out
to
the
community,
just
really
focusing
on
officer
wellness
and
mental
health
for
our
officers,
as
well
as
helping
our
community
with
those
same
issues
that
we're
seeing
out
in
the
community.
Is
it's
it's
a
needed
resource
and
it's
invaluable
to
us
at
this
point,
and
only
going
to
get
more
and
more
important
for
us.
D
A
All
right,
thank
you
so
much.
I
am
going
to
ask
that
you
send
that
word
document
that
you
are
sharing
with
us
to
the
committee
staff
so
that
we
can
upload
it
online
for
all
of
our
committee
members
and
anybody
else
who
is
following
along
with
the
presentation.
C
Thank
you
chair,
apparently,
I'm
the
only
one
interested
in
mobile
crisis
center,
so
I'll
just
keep
asking
questions
until
somebody
else
wants
to
jump
in.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here
and
it's
it's
good
to
hear
what
you
all
are
doing
in
reno.
Could
you
talk
just
a
little
bit
about
whether
there
are
any
plans
to
expand,
how
many
most
teams
there
are
or
the
availability
of
them?
I
mean.
We
all
know
that
crises
don't
stop
at
the
end
of
swing,
shift
right
and
down
here
in
las
vegas.
C
A
lot
of
them
probably
start
around
around
that
time.
So
could
you
tell
us
a
little
bit
about?
Are
there
any
plans
to
expand
so
that
the
service
can
be
offered
24,
7
or
offered
every
time
it's
needed?
You
know
I'm
aware
of
at
least
one
kind
of
high
profile
incident
where
a
most
team
or
crisis
intervention
was
not
available
and
it
didn't
result
in
the
the
best
outcomes.
So
if
you
could
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
that,
that'd
be
great.
Thank
you.
O
So
so,
internally,
in
the
real
police
department,
obviously
expanding
the
number
of
clinicians
available
is
important,
but
we're
also
looking
at
other
avenues
of
getting
mental
health
experts
into
the
fold,
whether
that
be
through
interns
up
at
our
front
desk
interns
up
at
dispatch
not
only
just
hiring
clinicians
more
and
more
clinicians
to
pair
with
officers.
I
think
the
comment
was
made
earlier
with
the
officer
right.
The
question
was
asked:
what
do
officers
feel
about
the
clinicians,
and
I
was
telling
christie
when
that
came
on.
O
If
I
could
hire
a
clinician
for
every
officer
and
pair
them
up,
24
7.,
I
would
have
zero
complaints
from
officers.
They
love
the
clinicians
when
they
ride
with
them.
The
more
we
get
out
there
in
the
field,
the
better,
but
looking
at
other
avenues
of
not
just
the
fully
licensed
clinicians.
But
how
can
we
stretch
the
limited
resources
to
the
best?
O
You
know
get
the
best
bang
for
our
buck
as
far
as
utilizing
our
local
university
and
the
internship
programs
that
they
they
provide
through
their
their
education,
and
where
can
we
put
them
so
they
can
get
the
most
interaction
with
the
community.
So,
like
I
said,
have
a
dispatch:
if
I
can
have
a
clinician
up,
there
sit
and
talk
to
somebody
on
the
phone
and
remove
a
highly
trained
dispatcher
from
that
phone
line
and
get
them
on
other
calls.
That's
great
same
thing
at
the
front
desk.
D
The
clinicians
that
I
do
know
with
with
our
agency,
with
with
sparks
as
well
as
washoe
county
love,
this
population,
so
to
be
able
to
find
the
clinicians
that
love
working
with
this
population
enjoy
working
with
trauma
is
important,
and
so
the
reno
police
department
has
has
begun
that
process
of
working
with
the
local
universities
to
train
these
young
passionate
individuals
who
want
to
work
with
this
population
and
get
them
ready
for
future.
Most
positions.
C
A
All
right
any
other
questions
from
our
members
attending
virtually.
I
Thank
you,
chair
schaible,
my
question
is
very
simple,
and
that
is
is
the
only
option
for
this
type
of
partnership
that
that
the
person
who
is
the
the
mental
health
professional
be
a
employee
of
the
police
department?
I
I
Who,
who
has
the
strongest
personality
in
the
relationship
and
and
and
how
do
we
ensure
that
the
mental
health
provider
has
autonomy
based
on
their
professionalism
as
a
as
a
social
worker
or
mental
health
professional
not
being
over
influenced
by
police
culture,
and
that
we
have
more
balance?
O
Yeah,
absolutely
that's,
definitely
something
that
we.
We
want
to
consider
the
reason
that
we
brought
people
in
house
was
initially
when
they
were,
they
were
funded
through
the
the
county.
It
was
a
grant
funded
position.
So,
as
you
know,
those
grants
can
come
and
go
when
chief
soto
had
the
opportunity
to
add
these
positions
to
our
general
fund
budget.
So
it's
a
budgeted
item
in
perpetuity
funded
in
duty
he
jumped
at
that
opportunity.
O
So
that
was
why
we
brought
them
in-house
in
order
to
guarantee
that
they
would
be
a
resource
for
our
department,
for
as
long
as
we're
around
and
to
to
help,
like,
I
said,
not
only
help
our
community
but
help
our
department
as
far
as
training
and
having
the
the
cit
professionals
and
cit
experts
in-house
and
able
to
train
us,
not
just
you
know
once
a
year,
but
every
single
briefing
that
they
attend
or
or
those
kind
of
things
we're
always
looking
for
partnering
with
people
outside
of
our
building
and
any
opportunity.
O
We
can
get
to
take
advantage
of
that.
We're
always
open
to
that,
whether
it's
our
local
hospitals
or
mental
health
professionals
in
our
community
and
building
those
relationships
is
vitally
important
for
us.
O
I
think
recognizing
and
I
understand
the
mentality
of
the
strongest.
You
know
person
in
the
room.
I
guess
you
know
a
lot
of
influence,
but
I
can
tell
you
from
just
my
personal
experience
and
kind
of
the
culture
that
we're
trying
to
build.
Is
we
don't
know
everything
and
deferring
to
the
experts
is
very
important
for
us
and
teaching
that
our
officers
that
there's
many
ways
to
to
skin
a
cat
and
learning
from
their
example,
seeing
how
they
handle
calls
with
that
close,
close
partnership.
O
We
have
with
them
I've
seen
officers
one
week
same
thing.
If
my
embedded
officer
isn't
here,
then
the
the
official
ride
with
somebody
else
and
I've
seen
those
officers
when
they're
not
with
them
using
the
same
skills,
the
same
language,
the
same
techniques
that
they're
learning
from
the
most
clinicians.
So
I
think
the
partnership
is
beneficial,
but
I
agree
with
you.
O
I
think
we
need
to
ensure
that
we're
partnering
with
our
our
community
and
the
988
community
and
having
the
peer
teams
with
the
clinicians
outside
of
the
building
as
a
resource
is,
is
going
to
be
beneficial
towards
that
end,
and
I
think
the
overall
goal
that
we
subscribe
to
is
the
proper
resource
for
the
proper,
the
proper
situation
not
over
responding
but
not
under
responding
at
the
same
time,
so
both
to
have
tragic
consequences,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
we
keep
those
in
mind
as
we
go
forward.
So
I
agree.
O
We
definitely
need
to
partner
with
our
community
and
make
sure
that
there's
there's
resources
for
every
situation.
You
know
to
a
hammer.
Everything
looks
like
a
nail.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
avoid
that
when
it
comes
to
this
because
that's
how
tragedies
happen.
So
I
appreciate
your
your
concern
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
as
a
team,
identify
and
work
for
those
as
well.
D
Some
of
the
best
de-escalation
skills
that
I
have
learned
is
actually
from
law
enforcement
and
I've
been
through
a
lot
of
training
because
when
they
go
out
engaged
it's
usually
people
are
dealing
with
some
of
the
worst
things
in
their
lives.
Even
it's
just
getting
pulled
over
for
a
traffic
ticket
right
that
can
be
stressful,
nerve-wracking
and
to
watch
them,
engage
and
de-escalate
and
and
make
somebody
feel
comfortable,
getting
a
speeding
ticket
or
somebody
more
comfortable.
In
a
crisis
situation.
I
have
learned
some
of
those
best
skills
from
law
enforcement.
I
Thank
you
so
much,
and
I
appreciate
you
addressing
the
issue
of
clothing,
the
previous
presenter
presented
in
full
regalia
and
and
I'm
wondering
if
that
is
a
a
common
practice,
I'm
not
sure
that
that
is
what
a
person
who's
in
crisis
needs
to
see
from
every
person
on
the
scene
and
whether
or
not
that
heightens
awareness
or
fear
or
not,
and
so
it's
good
to
hear
that
you
all
have
a
a
different
perspective.
Thank
you
for
answering
the
questions.
I
appreciate
it.
A
A
J
One
there
we
go
so
my
name
is
jody
hawking.
I
am
the
founder
and
executive
director
of
return
strong.
We
are
started
as
a
collective
of
people
who
had
families
who
were
impacted
by
really
corrections.
They
were
in
prison.
Some
of
them
have
come
out
in
the
meantime
and
we
really
appreciate.
First
of
all,
I
know
you
guys
have
heard
us
on
public
comments
forever.
J
We
really
appreciate
the
space
to
be
able
to
just
not
talk
in
two
minute
segments,
so
I
just
want
to
first
just
recognize
that
you
want
to
come
over
here,
so
you
can
see
that
you
want
to
introduce
yourself
real,
quick.
I'm.
A
G
P
P
I
in
2021
I
went
before
the
board
of
pardons
and
received
a
received
clemency
april.
13Th
of
this
year
I
was
released
so
I'm
extremely
familiar
with
ndoc's
implementation
of
their
policies,
practices
and
procedures.
J
C
J
Sorry,
we'll
keep
swapping
back
and
forth
that
we
have
really
focused
on
areas
that
we
were
seeing
as
problems
through
the
pandemic
through
the
personal
experience
of
not
just
our
own
family
members,
but
we
have
close
to
three
thousand
now.
People
who
write
to
us
who
talk
to
us
about
their
lived
experiences
within
nevada
prisons
and
one
of
the
struggles
has
been
really
figuring
out.
J
You
know,
I
know
many
of
you
have
fielded
calls
from
us
before
and
has
been
figuring
out
how
and
where
and
what
can
be
done
to
improve
really
prisoners
rights
within
nevada
and
and
address
some
of
the
things
that
are
going
on
both
for
incarcerated
people
and
for
families.
J
And
so
today,
though,
I'm
like,
can
you
guys
hand
me
my
soda?
I'm
sorry,
I'm
like
so
nervous
that
my
mouth
is
going
dry.
We
look
at
it
like
an
umbrella.
It's
really
like
what
we've
come
by
working
with
other
organizations
across
the
country
is
realize
that
what
we
really
need
is
oversight
and
accountability,
and
so
today
we're
going
to
talk
about
a
couple
of
different
areas.
J
J
So
one
is
that
it
does
have
to
be
independent.
I
think
that's
been
one
of
the
struggles
that
we've
had
is
that
there
are
two
very
different
sides
of
the
story
that
come
forth
when
and
I
don't
think
it's
necessarily
that
one
side
or
the
other
side
is
being
like
not
truthful
about
things,
but
we
see
things
from
very
different
perspectives,
and
so,
but
there
is
a
middle
ground
there
somewhere,
but
the
only
way
to
ever
get
to
that
is
really
to
have
it.
J
We've
asked
for
investigations
before,
but
I
think
it
really
needs
to
go
past
an
independent
investigation
and
it
needs
an
oversight
body.
So
the
first
step
would
be
that
that
would
be
independent
and
that
the
director
of
that
oversight
body
would
be
removable
only
for
cause,
because
obviously
they're
going
to
be
pressing
back
about
certain.
You
know
issues
within
the
prison
and
they
can't
just
be
removed
for
no
cause.
J
P
P
Smith,
okay,
southern
desert-
they
didn't
have
hot
water
in
the
kitchen
for
over
two
years
to
wash
the
trays
or
whatever
it
was,
they
would
have
maintenance
switch
the
pipes
whenever
the
people
would
come
in
and
check
and
only
reason
they
knew
that
they
were
coming,
because
you
have
to
get
clear
before
you
come
into
prison,
so
they
knew
what
to
do
and
it
would
it.
It
went
on
and
went
on
and
went
on
and
the
the
trays
wasn't
clean,
sometimes
obvi,
not
a
dirty
trays.
Sometimes
I've
seen
it
and
it
was
it
was.
P
P
And
whenever,
like
the
director,
when
the
director
would
come
or
the
deputy
directors,
they
would
usually
lock
us
down
at
southern
desert.
Like
I
spent
seven
years
at
ely,
I
spent
five
years
at
high
desert
two
and
a
half
years
at
northern
nevada,
correctional
center
and
the
rest
of
my
time
was
at
southern
desert.
That's
where
I
was
released
from
so
whenever
they
would
come,
we
would
have
to
paint,
make
stuff
look
real
nice
and
whenever
they
would
bring
the
tour
they
would
lock
us
down.
P
J
And
that's
something
that
we
have
regularly
received.
Letters
from.
There
was
recently
a
visit
by
governor
sisilak
at
northern
nevada,
and
we
received
a
bunch
of
letters
from
people
that
were
saying
it's
crazy,
because
every
day
we
climb
over
piles
of
garbage
to
get
to
the
chow
hall.
J
But
when
the
governor
comes
that
garbage
all
got
moved
behind
a
building
so
that
he
never
saw
it,
and
so
they
shields
from
people's
like
people
who
are
supposed
to
be
there,
whether
it's
inspectors
or
politicians
or
the
directors
like
they
get
shielded
from
some
of
the
things
that
should
be
coming
out.
And
so
that's
one
of
those
key
things
of
why.
We
believe
that
that
golden
key
access
is
so
important
that
those
on
those
boards
around
the
country
that
they've
built
those
types
of
panels,
they're
allowed
to
talk
to
incarcerated
people.
J
They're
allowed
to
talk
to
staff
members
they're
allowed
to
talk
to
families
and
get
all
of
those
things.
And
it's
the
responsibility
that
of
that
panel
to
make
sure
that
that
information
that's
coming
through
is
accurate
and
that
it's
being
dealt
with
appropriately
go
to
the
next
one.
The
other
thing
is
that
they
should
have
acumen.
You
know
access
to
documents
and
data.
J
J
Yeah
we
had
somebody
else
that
was
working
on
that
time,
but
it
was
probably
at
least
eight
or
nine
months
to
receive
that
we
put
it
in
last
fall
and
it
we
didn't
get
information
until
early
spring.
So
then
it's
like
real
time.
There's
things
going
on
with
people
and
you
can't
figure
out
like
what
is
real
and
what
is
not
and
go
to
the
next
one.
J
That
panel
should
have
confidential
the
ability
to
confidentially,
communicate
with
staff
and
incarcerated
people
and
families.
I
got
ahead
of
the
slides
as
always
responsive
this
was
you
we're
going
to
talk
about
this?
Oh
hang
on
one
second,
nicole,
the
other
thing
about
access.
You
were
going
to
talk
about
southern
business
in
the
hallway.
J
P
Oh,
the
hallways:
that's
like
a
lockdown
within
a
lockdown
in
2010,
a
former
warden.
Now
a
deputy
director
implemented
closing
the
gates,
and
this
is
you're
behind
a
gate
where
the
bubble
is
over
here
and
it's
just
inmates
in
the
back
and
it's
not
safe.
You
have
a
mentality,
either
you're
gonna
be
hurt
or
someone
could
hurt
you,
but
you
can't
flee.
You
can't
flee.
You
can't
go
to
the
bubble,
even
though
they
may
walk
or
they
may
do
whatever.
P
But
once
you
get
in
the
room,
you
don't
got
help
you
you
could
you
could
die.
I
don't
know
how
many
people
to
die
like
that,
but
and
then
they
lock
you
down
in
your
room
for
another
modified
lockdown,
and
this
is
also
complicated
because
you
don't
choose
who
you
live
with.
They
have
a
policy
of
no
convenient
bed
moves.
P
So
now,
not
only
am
I
locked
behind
a
gate
now,
I'm
locked
in
a
room
with
someone
that
I
may
not
know
someone
that
I
may
not
like
someone
that
may
not
like
me
and
access
would
show
that.
Okay,
we're
spending
more
time,
they're
spending
more
time
in
the
room
than
they
are
outside
the
room
and
it's
not
safe.
It's
not
safe,
and
on
paper
it
says
that
okay,
well,
the
officer
does
this
or
the
offer
does
that,
but
I've
never
seen
an
officer
just
help
someone.
J
There's
a
current
case
now,
which
I'm
sure
you
saw.
Oh,
this
is
jody
that
is
in
the
news
now
about
a
young
man.
He's
was
in
his
early
20s
and
was
housed
with
somebody
with
severe
mental
illness
at
high
desert
and
was
stabbed.
I
forget
the
number
it
was.
J
96
times
and
that
those
situations
are
not
as
uncommon
as
you
would
think
that
they
are-
and
I
remember
when
niko
was
telling
me
about
the
hallway
my
husband
is
there,
he's
in
that
he's
on
southern
desert.
They
were
actually
on
the
same
unit
before
they
were
released
and
my
husband
talks
all
the
time
about
just
being
stuck
in
the
hallway,
like
you
can
never
get
out
of
here.
I
can't
program.
J
I
can't
do
anything
like
yard
time
is
so
restricted,
but
he
never
really
explained
to
me
about
the
hallway
and
like
what
it
felt
like
to
be
on
there
and
the
fear
of
like
if
there
was
a
riot
or
a
fight
breaks
out
that
it's
life
or
death.
He
doesn't
really
talk
to
me
about
this,
but
nico
was
telling
me
and
he
was
like
it's
really
terrifying
to
be
in
there
and
like
no.
J
You
have
no
way
out
if
something
happens
or
something
goes
wrong
at
this
point
we
can
bring
these
hallway
incidences
and
concerns
about.
We
can
bring
them
to
everybody.
We
can
bring
them
public
comments.
We
can
talk
to
about
what
they
are,
but
nobody
can
go
in
there
and
see
that
that's
what's
going
on,
and
I
think
there
have
been
too
many
questions
about
what
really
is
happening
in
there
and
you
have
the
lived
experience
of
people
on
one
hand,
and
you
have
reports
which
may
be
completely
accurate
for
what
the
report
is
asking.
J
But
if
it
doesn't
ask
all
the
right
questions,
then
you're
not
getting
the
right
answers
hang
on.
So
the
next
thing
we
were
going
to
talk
about
was
race
being
responsive.
P
To
nicole
smith,
all
right
we're
getting
the
grievance
process,
it
doesn't
work.
The
grievance
process
doesn't
work
because
the
southern
desert,
especially
whoever
you
write
a
grievous
on
they,
get
the
grievance
they're,
the
first
ones
to
respond
to
your
grievance
and
the
warden
or
the
warden's
destiny,
either
confirms
it
or
did
not,
usually
denies
your
grievance.
That's
like
one
of
the
reasons
the
court
system
is
so
piled
up
with
civil
lawsuits,
because
it's
not
addressed
correctly
within
the
prison,
and
it
also
brings
retaliation
from
the
officers
saying
that.
P
Okay,
well,
you
wrote
a
grievance
now
other
officers
in
your
room
or
you're
being
harassed
or
you're
taken
to
the
hole
for
some.
You
may
have
a
violation
but
other
than
a
write-up.
Instead
of
a
write-up,
you
would
go
to
the
whole
pending
you're
right
up
the
grievance
process.
It
shouldn't
work
like
that.
That's
the
only
thing
we
have
to
protect
ourselves
against
the
ones
that
are
supposed
to
protect
us
and
if
it's
faulty
it's
it's
no
good.
P
P
J
Right
now,
there's
nowhere
to
go
whether
you
are
an
incarcerated
person,
a
family
member,
a
stakeholder
that,
like
even
the
aclu,
has
struggled
to
get
the
answers
that
they
need
like
now.
We
do
have
a
a
quarterly
meeting
that
has
just
started,
but
it's
taken
years
of
fighting
to
get
there,
and
I
just
one
of
the
things
that
has
been
really
difficult
was
the
lack
of
response
and
the
reason
we
believe
that
we
really
need
this.
Independent
oversight
is
even
we.
I
know
the
legislature
has
received
my.
J
Where
do
you
go
when
you
can't
get
answers?
My
frantic
middle
of
the
night
rantings,
but
the
reality
is
there
is
nowhere
to
go.
We
don't
have
an
ombudsman,
we
don't
have,
and
I'm
not
even
sure
that
that's
really
the
answer.
I
think
that
where
is
there
a
neutral
party
that
can
like
investigate?
What
is
the
truth?
And
the
audits
really
made
that
more
apparent
than
ever,
because
it
became
clear
that
we
need
a
third
party.
We
need
something
neutral
to
do
that.
P
It
reads
in
the
ars
and
the
ops,
and
maybe
the
nrs
is
a
certain
way,
but
that's
not
how
it's
implemented.
I
was
stg
in
2011
for
old
tattoos.
P
P
It
will
stop
you
from
going
to
camp
and
in
some
circumstances
you
can
even
go
to
the
pardon
board
with
an
stg
designation,
the
papers,
the
paper
says
or
the
ar
and
the
ops,
and
maybe
like
I
said,
the
nrs
is
read
a
certain
way,
but
it's
not
being
implemented
like
that,
and
access
is
needed
for
that.
Also.
J
And
that's
one
of
another
thing
that,
like
there's
just
nowhere
to
go,
we
have
another
person
that
we're
supporting
for
the
pardons
board.
Gotta
say
your
name:
oh
jody
hawking,
sorry
niko's
doing
better
than
I
am
on
that
that
we
have
somebody
now
and
the
answer
from
the
pardons
board
is
like
well
he's
stg.
He
has
grievances
going
back
at
least
eight
years
where
he
has
been
asking
ndoc.
J
He
moved
to
a
pc
unit.
He
dropped
like
has
done
everything,
but
he
can't
get
any
type
of
there's
nowhere
to
go,
which
is
the
answer
like
if
that
answer
is
not
coming
back
and
it's
not
fair,
then
there's
just
nowhere
else.
J
J
One
of
the
best
practices
when
we're
talking
to
professor
deutsch
is
that
it
should
include
somebody
who's
previously
incarcerated,
a
representative
from
who
has
a
family
member
who
has
somebody
currently
incarcerated
medical
experts,
legal
experts
and
I
forgot
something
about
somebody
else,
but
that
it
should
be
diverse
and
representative
in
order
to
make
sure
that
all
like
avenues
are
kind
of
filled
out
with
that.
J
So
now,
hopefully
nick
is
down
there
in
carson
city
still,
because
I'm
going
to
go
into
really
quick,
the
so
then
the
other
two
pieces
under
that
oversight,
which
aren't
specifically
about
the
panel
itself,
but
really
about
two
issues
that
return
strong
and
families
would
like
to
have
address,
and
we
really
believe
the
only
way
to
fully
address
them
is
through
legislation.
J
So
one
thing
is
regarding
you
know:
the
audit
came
out,
I
keep
getting
nervous
and
then
I
need
diet,
pepsi.
The
audit
came
out,
and
so
for
years,
like
those
of
us
that
have
had
a
loved
one,
that's
incarcerated,
we've
always
known
like
something's,
not
right
with
nevada's
commissary
pricing,
it's
so
much
higher
other
other
states,
new
mexico
and
california.
Washington
all
use
the
same
vendor,
but
their
prices
are
significantly
less
like
close
to
half
of
what
we
pay.
J
What
we
were
able
to
find
out.
We
started
doing
research
thanks
to
my
volunteer
paralegal
over
here
and
found
out
that
it
isn't
specifically
because
the
pricing
is
higher
in
the
contract.
It's
because
ndoc
takes
a
significant
markup
that
other
states
do
not
take,
and
so
that
cost
of
incarceration
is
getting
passed
on
to
families
which
has
become
even
more
problematic
with
the
pandemic
and
inflation
and
everything
else
we're
basically
already
like
dealing
with
double
households
and
a
lost
income,
and
now,
on
top
of
it,
we're
like
nicole,
said
earlier.
J
P
To
nico
smith,
it's
we
in
prison,
you
need
package,
you
need,
we
need
packages,
we
need
food,
we
need
clothing
because
first
in
the
culinary
they
don't
feed
you
right.
It's
not
only
nasty,
but
it's
not
enough,
and
before
when
I
first
came
to
prison
a
long
time
ago,
they
used
to
feed
you,
you
ate,
you
had
three
hot
meals.
It
was
a
lot
of
food
and
even
the
food
like
they
throw
away
a
lot
of
food
now,
but
back
then
they
would
give
it
to
you
now.
P
P
I
never
forgot.
I
never
I'll,
never
forget
where
I
came
from
that
how
long
I
spent
in
prison,
but
it
brought
to
the
forefront.
This
is
what
my
family
was
going
through,
because
I
was
incarcerated
and
struggling
to
get
a
package
wondering
why
you
weren't
able-
or
I
have
to
wait
for
a
certain
time.
It's
it's.
It's
needed
the
clothing,
even
though
the
clothing
that
you
get
from
the
package
they're
not
top
shelf.
P
J
So
they're
right
now
are
taking
markups,
and
I
know
the
audit
said
I
believe,
41
point
right
around
41
or
42,
I'm
hoping
nick
is
in
in
carson
city.
Now,
I'm
sure
he
is,
but
that
was
actually
like
when
ffjc
did
research
on
what
the
audit
came,
that
it
looks
like
there
had
been,
that
percentage
was
actually
calculated
incorrectly
and
it's
actually
closer
to
like
66
percent
markup
on
these
items,
which
falls
in
line
closer
to
what
we
see
with
other
states.
J
And
you
know
when
you
go
back
and
look
at
the
audit.
It's
saying
that
it
wasn't
that
those
profits
were
used
for
like
inmate
costs,
but
then
there's
questions
in
the
audit
about
what
did
go
for
inmate
costs.
It
just
becomes
another
issue
like
not
only
do
we
want
to
adjust
address
legislatively
like
last
year
with
sb
22.
J
You
guys
were
able
to
address
those
issues
when
it
came
to
restitution
deductions,
and
the
word
then
again
was
that
the
director
had
the
the
ability
to
decide
what
was
reasonable.
But
unfortunately,
what
the
pattern
that
we
see
when
it
comes
to
financial
decisions
is
that
those
decisions
are
not
reasonable.
J
It's
not
reasonable
for
a
66
markup,
it's
not
reasonable
for
80
to
100
percent
markups
on
or
deductions,
and
that
there
needs
to
be
oversight
on
that
and
that
there
also
needs
to
be
not
only
just
legislative
relief
but
also
the
ability
to
then
hold
them
accountable,
and
the
only
way
that
happens
is
through
oversight
and
and
the
rulemaking
process
which
has
not.
You
know
it
was
instituted
in
what
2010.
J
I
believe
I
didn't
even
live
in
nevada
back
then
so,
but
I
believe
it
was
2010
that
the
rulemaking
process
started
and
not
one
time
when
it
comes
to
a
financial
decision
under
emergency
circumstances
or
any
other
has
that
ever
been
accessed
by
ndoc
to
have
it
go
through
that
whole
seven
step
process,
and
so
it's
great
if
we
create
legislation,
but
if
we
don't
also
create
a
way
for
accountability,
then
we're
going
to
lose
like
that
just
shifts
somewhere
else.
Does
that
make
sense?
J
I
would
like
to
say
to
visiting.
I
was
in
shock
when
I
saw
that
visiting
vending
was
part
of
that
profit.
I
would
just
like
to
say
so.
I've
been
going
to
visitation
for
a
long
time.
They
used
to
be
like
what
mikko
three
bucks
for
one.
They
have
these
burgers
in
the
vending
machine
that
have
jalapenos
on
them.
They
were
like
325
at
one
point.
They
were
four
or
something
before
the
pandemic.
J
Those
burgers
are
over
six
dollars
now
and
when
you
think
it's
six
dollars
and
they're
taking
66
profit
like
we
have
try
to
go
in
there
and
it's
just
it's
bad.
The
other
thing
that
we
wanted
to
talk
about
was
medical
copay.
So
we
listed
some
on
here
that
there's
a
four
dollar
prescription
copay
an
eight
dollar
medical
copay
and
somewhere
between
65
and
85
dollars
for
a
man
down
copay
depending
on.
J
If
it's
a
nurse
or
if
it's
a
doctor
and
nico,
told
me
about
one
that
wasn't
in
the
documentation
that
we
got
in
the
foia,
do
you
want
to
tell
them
about
it?.
P
Taniko
smith,
I
don't
I
don't
know
where
they
got
the
four
dollars
from
it's
eight
dollars
to
ride
a
kite.
If
you
don't
go
to
that
appointment,
you
get
charged
eight
dollars
at
southern
desert
for
sure
and
when
you
do
go
see
the
doctor,
if
you
get
any
type
of
medication,
it's
eight
dollars.
P
So
when
I
first
came,
it
was
like
two
dollars
for
everything,
but
it's
eight
dollars
even
just
to
ride
a
kite,
and
if
you
refuse
you
get
charged
and
I've
I've
dislocated,
like
all
of
my
fingers,
almost
in
prison,
I've
never
went
to
the
doctor
for
it.
Never
this
it's
either
too
late.
By
the
time
they
answer
you
you
used
to.
Have
it
used
to
be
where
you
could
walk,
you
could
walk
up
to
a
sick
call.
You
could
have
sick
call
or
walk
up
there.
P
P
P
It's
it's
only
thing
they
was
giving
us
for
covet
was
maybe
a
cold
pack,
and
at
times
we
got
to
where
we
didn't
want
to
be
locked
down
so
much.
They
wouldn't
even
test
us.
They
allow
us
to
do
it
ourselves
and
so
a
lot
of
people
instead
of
getting
a
lockdown,
they
would
wouldn't.
It
was
selfish,
but
we
figured
we
was
going
to
get
it
anyway.
I
don't
know
how
many
times
I
had
covered.
P
I
wrote
a
grievance
about
being
around
staff
member,
a
staff
member
that
had
covet,
but
we
would
test
ourselves
and
not
really
test
ourselves
because
you're
supposed
to
put
it
up
so
far,
because
we
didn't
want
to
be
locked
down
no
more
and
going
to
the
infirmity
wasn't
going
to
really
do
you.
Nothing
do
nothing
for
you.
P
In
the
sports
copay,
it's
like,
I
believe,
a
sports
injury
was
like
150
dollars.
If
you
hurt
yourself
doing
doing
sports
and
the
like
the
florida
southern
desert,
is
it
used
to
have
the
proper
stuff
on
the
on
the
basketball
court
it
used
to
be
proper.
It
was
like
one
of
the
nicest
in
the
system
they
used
to
allow
fundraisers
where
people
like
the
naacp.
I
was
a
part
of
that
before
or
we
could
have
drives
to
put
the
stuff
on
the
floor
now.
It's
like
slick
they
put
wax
regular
wax.
P
I
was
a
gym
worker
right
when
I
left
and
we
would
put
wax
on
the
floor
which
you're
gonna
get
hurt.
You're
gonna
get
you
someone's
gonna
slip
and
fall,
and
if
we
complain
the
only
thing
they
would
do
would
take
it
from
us
now
it
wasn't
nothing
done
to
make
it
better
and
you
have
to.
They
would
make
sure.
Once
you
get
a
sports
injury,
they
would
make
sure
that
you
pay
that
money.
D
D
The
physician
in
lovelock
suggested
that
he
be
taken
to
a
surgeon
to
evaluate
it
and
fix
it.
It
was
during
covid,
it
never
happened.
The
call
is
fractured
healed
on
its
own
and
he
has
since
not
seen
a
surgeon
regarding
that
wrist
injury,
which
is
a
break
because
fractures
right
here.
So
it's
still
happening.
Lovelock
is
very
rural,
so
they
don't
get
very
good
care
if
at
all,
so
they
just
got
an
ophthalmologist
there
after
I
think
three,
four
years
and
they've
all
been
getting
their
eyes
checked
now.
D
J
Hacking
so
as
far
as
medical
like
and
talking
about
copays
return,
strong
has
started
collecting
data
and
declarations
from
incarcerated
people.
When
we
started
doing
it,
it
was.
We
only
had
about
1200
members
of
that
time
at
that
time
and
fully
over
a
third
of
them
have
written
to
us
about
medical
neglect,
and
I
think
part
of
the
concern
when
it
comes
to
co-pays
is
that
people
are
putting
in
requests
to
see
a
doctor
and
waiting.
We
have
people
waited
years
to
see
a
doctor
covet
or
no
covid.
J
If
we're
incarcerating
people,
we
have
a
responsibility
to
do
it
humanely
and
medical
neglect
is
part
of
that
or
medical
treatment
as
part
of
that
not
medical
neglect,
and
so
what
has
happened
is
that
people
will
put
in
requests
and
those
requests
like
niko
said,
do
not
get
responded
to
answered,
and
it's
now
months
or
years
later,
and
then
they
have
to
call
a
man
down
and
now
we're
charging
them
the
higher
man
down
fee,
because
we
didn't
see
them
when
they
needed
chronic
care
or
follow-up
or
sick
care,
and
now
we're
charging
them
an
additional
fee,
and
that
leads
to
then
the
question
about
medical
neglect.
J
So,
according
to
the
audit
incarcerated
people,
when
they
leave
prison,
oh
were
according
to
the
audit,
was
10.4
million
in
debt
to
ndoc
for
costs
related
to
services
and
supplies
that
have
to
be
re
repaid.
My
husband
sent
me
a
piece
of
paper
that
got
posted
a
month
or
so
ago.
J
That
said,
if
you
have
medical
debt,
when
you
leave
prison
that
they
are
going
to
seek
collections
against
you
and
they
will
go
report
it
to
your
credit
report.
If
it's
not
paid,
even
though
and
nick
will
have
the
accurate
number,
but
I
think
the
collection
rate
of
like
successful
collections
is
actually
around
like
two
percent,
so
is
that
really
something
that
we
need
to
be
sending
people?
We
have
a
member,
a
young
man
named
elijah
who
had
saved.
He
was
like
filled
his
whole
savings
and
trust
accounts.
J
75
7
500,
and
they
took
all
of
the
money
that
was
on
his
debit
card,
except
the
25
that
the
debit
card
is
going
to
cost
him
in
fees
just
to
have
it
anyway
took
all
the
money
and
then
sent
him
to
medical
he's
getting
medical
collections
on
the
balance
of
that
amount
of
money.
As
he's
trying
to
like
get
his
life
back
together,
and
these
are
not
it's
like
sonya
said
earlier.
These
aren't
unique
stories
like
we
could
come
here
with
hundreds
of
them.
J
So
the
last
thing
that
we
want
to
talk
about
that,
so
one
is
all
of
those
financial
things
and
the
second
thing
is
really
about
visitation
and
we're
gonna
make
it
as
quick
as
possible.
Is
that
as
sony
was
sharing,
we
really
believe,
like
all
families
deserve
contact
and
they
deserve
visit
visitation.
J
J
We
had
started
working
with
deputy
director
gitter
on
finding
like
resolving
some
issues,
but
then
we
ran
into
like
I
have
probably
20
people
right
now
who
have
written
to
us
to
ask
for
help
in
getting
a
denial
overturned,
and
the
reason
is
that
they
were
denied
because
their
family
member
had
a
previous
felony,
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
to
remember
is
that
firing.
J
People
like
just
re,
I'm
trying
to
think
of
the
word
like
we
continue
that
cycle
against
families
and
communities
who
were
already
marginalized
and
people
who
already
had
it.
So
this
morning
I
was
talking
to
a
man
who
is
one
of
our.
We
call
them
returning
strong
citizens
so
he's
released
now
he
just
graduated
from
nevada
prison
education
project,
but
he
was
originally
incarcerated
at
16
and
his
mother
had
a
vehicular
manslaughter.
J
She
was
on
prescription
medication
drove
on
the
medication,
and
somebody
ended
up
killed
in
that
accident
as
a
16
year
old.
He
was
never
allowed,
he
did
15
years
in
prison
and
he
was
never
allowed
to
visit
his
mother.
His
mother
was
not
allowed
to
come
to
the
prison
because
the
way
the
ndoc,
what
they
write
them,
are
denial,
saying
that,
because
you're
an
ex-felon
you're,
I
might
not
get
the
words
exactly
right,
but
that
visiting
a
correction
center
is
not
conducive
to
a
corrections.
J
J
She
has
not
seen
her
son
in
15
years,
another
one
same
situation,
20
years,
15
years
20
years
and
in
trying
to
work
through
those
those
situations.
I
had
a
conversation
with
ndoc
and
was
told
there's
no
statute
of
limitations
on
a
felony
when
it
comes
to
corrections
and
that's
not
fair
or
right.
People
have
the
right
and
they
they
should
be.
Able.
I
understand,
visitation
is
a
is
not
a
right,
it
is
a
privilege,
but
they
should
have
that
ability.
J
We
understand
that
conversation
has
to
be
hashed
out.
Maybe
there's
a
there
is
a
statute
of
limitations,
or
maybe
there
are
certain
things
or
amount
of
time,
but
to
say
that
a
parent
can
never
see
their
child
again
or
on
either
side
of
that.
We
don't
believe
that
that
is
right
and
that
it
should
not
continue
any
further
and
the
only
way
to
actually
fix
it
is
to
legislate
what
that
looks,
like
the
other
two
things
around
visitation
that
we
want
to
say
just
really
quick
is.
J
J
Other
countries
here,
every
time
zone
like
you
name
it,
we
would
love
to
see
video
visit
implemented
and
I
think
it's
important
for
families
and
connections
and
rehabilitation,
but
what
we
would
like
to
see
it
implemented
without
predatory
practices.
J
We've
been
on
the
receiving
end
of
that
enough
at
this
point,
and
while
we're
fixing
things
like,
we
would
like
to
look
at
that
in
a
preventive
way,
as
opposed
to
like
having
to
clean
it
up
after
the
fact,
and
then
the
the
last
thing,
and
I'm
going
to
give
niko
some
time
to
talk
about.
This,
too,
is
like
we
think
it's
important
to
also
protect
in-person
visitation
for
everybody.
J
We
don't
want
to
see
what
has
been
happening
across
the
united
states
is,
as
video
visit
is
implemented
in
contact
or
in-person
visitation
is
then
either
suspended
or
limited
or
goes
away
altogether,
and
so
we're
looking
for
legislation
that
would
protect
in
person.
I
think
the
pandemic
has
shown
us
clearly
like
the
drug
problem
in
ndoc
was
not
because
of
families.
J
That
is,
it
was
worse
than
it's
ever
been
in
those
years
that
there
was
no
visitation,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
that
doesn't
get
blamed
on
families
and
that
that
become
a
like
safety
and
security
reason
why
we
no
longer
have
in-person
visitation,
I
always
think
of
people
on
death
row
or
people
who
are
lifers
or
have
life
without
generally
ill.
What's
that
or
people
who
are
terminally
ill
and
like
they
never
get
to
like
hug
their
loved
one,
one
more
time
or
or
see
somebody,
and
so
I
think
we
just
that.
J
P
Visitation
is
for
lifers,
especially
it
shows
them
how
you
can
still
deal
with
family.
You
can
still
deal
with
your
wife,
your
daughter,
your
your
son,
the
baby,
whoever
it
is
how
to
pull
out
a
chair,
the
softness,
instead
of
being
around
men
all
the
time
you
could
visit
a
family
member,
your
mother,
you
could
hug
them
and
learn
to
relate
to
what
they
doing
at
home
and
cut
their
food.
P
Do
all
the
things
that
a
man
is
supposed
to
supposed
to
be
doing,
instead
of
being
emasculated
by
what's
going
on
in
prison,
you
could
be
that
man
and
get
ready
to
adapt
to
society.
I
had
life
without.
I
had
two
lives
without
with
more
time,
and
I
used
to
love
my
visits,
I
would
get
a
visit
at
least
once
a
month.
I
would
love
to
see
my
girls
and
that
it
does
something
to
you,
you
prepare
for
it.
J
They
would
like
clarify
the
language
which
I
understand,
the
differences
between
adsec
and
dseg
and
lockdowns,
and
isolation
and
quarantine.
But
then
we
start
getting
to
modified
operations
which,
at
the
end
of
the
day
modified
operations,
are
we
don't
have
enough
staff
and
so
we're
continuing
to
isolate
people
as
a
safety
and
security
risk?
J
Corrections
officers
are
as
deeply
impacted
by
the
things
that
are
going
on
inside
of
nevada
prisons
as
incarcerated
people
as
families,
and
we
need
a
shared
space
where
we
can
find
answers
to
these
problems
right
and
I
think,
starting
to
look
at
like
I
don't
know,
maybe
we
are
using
the
things
that
they
were
talking
about
with
like
alternative
ways
of
dealing
with
community
problems.
Besides
just
incarceration,
we
start
using
those
alternative
methods
and
start
lowering
our
percent
population,
and
we
use
that
money
to
do
something
different.
P
It's
nico
smith
too.
I
want
to
apologize
too.
That
was
my
phone.
I
didn't
know
how
to
work
it.
I
thought
I
thought
I
knew
how
to
work
it.
I
tried
to
turn
it
off
and
I
had
a
it
used
to
be
a
warden
that
worked
at
at
southern
desert
and
he
had
a
slogan
that
the
only
thing
we
gonna
stand
up
for
is
count
and,
as
I
leave,
I
would
like
to
see
him
stand.
Watch
me
stand
up
and
leave
right.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
all
so
much
I'm
going
to
ask
you
actually
to
stay
where
you
are
because
we
get
to
ask
you
questions
and
I
think
that
you're
presenting
in
conjunction
with
the
fines
and
fees
justice
center.
Is
that
accurate?
I'm
sorry.
A
Can
you
say
that
again,
are
you
guys
presenting
with
fines
and
fees
justice
center
today,
okay-
and
I
understand
that
we
do
have
a
representative
up
in
carson
city
from
fines
and
fees,
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
let
him
share
his
insights
with
us
and
then
we
will
ask
questions
of
the
whole
group
all
right.
Take
it
away.
Carson
city.
D
Hello,
this
is
nick
schriepeck
state
deputy
director
of
the
fines
and
fees,
justice.
J
D
I'm
not
going
to,
I
think,
return
strong
covered.
What
we
need
to
cover.
What
I
produced
for
this
meeting
is
a
report
on
the
cost
of
incarceration.
You
should
all
have
that
report.
It
references
exhibits
specifically.
This
report
is
intended
to
be
informational,
only
there's,
no
opinion.
We
have
submitted
a
request
on
what
we
think
should
happen,
but
this
report
shows
the
cost
of
incarceration
that
was
covered.
It's
everything
from
the
highest
medical
copay
in
the
country
to
this
debt
is
extremely
concerning
to
us.
D
Individuals
are
leaving
with
the
one
audit
found
an
individual
had
over
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
debt.
Collection
rates
range
between
point
five
percent
to
one
point:
six
percent
over
the
last
three
years:
year-to-year
we're
not
collecting
this
debt.
However,
we
are
sending
people
out
of
prison
with
it.
We
need
to
find
ways
that
are
best
practices
that
we
need
to
look
at
other
states
and
we
can
find
ways
to
bring
down
these
costs.
D
A
66
markup
is
unacceptable
on
commissary
items,
especially
on
commissary
items
that
people
need,
such
as
menstrual
products
or
denture
cream.
But
really
we
need
to
look
at
this
in
its
totality
when
we
passed
sb
22
unanimously
in
this
house
in
this
body,
we
decided
that
we
would
protect
families
of
the
incarcerated
financially,
and
what
our
research
since
then
has
found
is
simply
that
the
costs
have
shifted
and
that
the
costs
are
exorbitant
in
many
areas.
So
if
anybody
has
any
questions
again
about
the
report,
specifically
I'd
be
happy
to
feel
those.
D
A
All
right,
thank
you
so
much
and
for
those
of
you
who
are
looking
like,
I
am
the
fines
and
feast
justice
center
reports
are
included
in
the
public
comment
when
I'm
on
our
website.
It's
the
very
first
exhibit
on
this
meeting,
and
with
that
I
will
go
ahead
and
open
it
up
to
questions
from
members
of
the
committee.
Anybody
here
in
las
vegas
senator
harris
go
ahead.
C
Thank
you,
chair,
we'll
just
keep
it
rolling.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
all
for
coming
and
presenting
and
for
doing
such
a
great
job.
It's
a
pleasure
to
have
you
all,
and
we
appreciate
you
bringing
this
perspective
to
to
the
committee's
attention
and
I'm
sure
we
will
all
consider
the
information
you
presented
as
well
as
any
potential
legislation
that
you
proposed
in
in
due
course.
So
no
questions
just
a
thank
you
for
being
here.
A
All
right
any
questions
from
carson
city,
assemblymember
o'neill-
I
don't
see
you
gesticulating
wildly
so
I'll.
Take
that
as
a
no
and
all
right.
Thank
you
and
I
will
go
to
our
colleagues
on
line
assembly
members,
summers,
armstrong,
wynne,
marzol,
not
marzulla,
krasner.
Sorry,
any
questions.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
and
I
actually
do
have
just
a
quick
question.
It's
kind
of
a
follow-up
from
a
long
time
ago.
You
know,
because
I
do
appreciate
that
return.
Strong
has
been
an
important
part
of
our
community
and
the
conversation
for
two
years
now,
and
so,
when
you
were
talking
about
some
of
the
expenses
that
people
who
are
incarcerated
face
the
the
medical
co-pays,
the
the
other
charges,
the
the
commissary
charges.
A
P
Tanika
smith,
on
the
kiosk:
now
you
have
we
used
to
have
a
paper
monthly
statement
and
you
would
be
able
to
challenge
it
if
something's
wrong.
But
now
you
got
to
pay
to
get
that
back.
If
you
find
something
wrong
so
on
the
kiosk,
you
can
punch
it
in
and
you'll
see
they
don't
charge
you
right.
Then
it
could
be
months
and
months.
Well,
maybe
a
couple
months
afterwards
and
like
okay.
J
J
There
wasn't
anything
about
the
150
sports
co-pay,
but
definitely
the
eight
dollar
medical
copay
and
the
the
man
down
co-pays
came
through
foia,
some
of
the
other,
the
four
dollar
one
there's
some
confusion
about,
because
it's
in
letters
from
people
that
they're
getting
charged
four
dollars
for
prescriptions,
but
we
didn't
receive
any
of
that
in
the
foia
and
we
didn't
receive
any
information
on
the
sports
one.
But
we
know
of
people
who
have
paid
it.
G
Yes,
please
go
ahead
and
add
one
little
thing,
so
I'm
sonia
williams,
sorry
when
eric
passed
away-
and
I
got
the
his
accounting
statement
for
the
money
that
was
remaining
on
his
books-
they
took
off
or
they
deducted
from
his
books
or
his
public
email
account
like
the
medical
copays,
the
he
was
on
a
insur
or
boost
energy
drink
only
diet,
so
he's
getting
charged
for
each
drink
and
like
it
it
was
crazy.
A
Wow
well,
thank
you
for
for
clarifying
and
sharing
that
with
us.
I
think
you
know
I
echo
my
colleagues
and
thanking
you
guys
for
being
here.
I
have
one
more
question
because
I
thought
that
you
guys
gave
a
really
great
presentation
about
the
aspects
of
an
oversight
committee
or
commission
that
would
be
necessary
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
you
looked
at
other
models
or
could
point
us
to
a
state
or
a
jurisdiction
that
has
an
oversight
committee
like
the
kind
that
you're
envisioning.
J
So
I
there
are
a
few
and
I
can
get
more
information
on
it,
so
that
we,
I'm
gonna,
be
honest,
like
in
the
past
month,
became
aware
that
this
was
even
so
like.
We
changed
our
whole
presentation
to
the
last
minute,
but
some
of
the
states
that
currently
have
them
washington
is
one
that
we've
been
told
has
like
one
of
the
strongest
and
we're
working
with.
J
So
we
work
through
with
the
national
unlock
the
box,
and
they
have
a
you
know-
probably
60
people
across
the
country
in
like
20
different
states
and
everybody's
in
various
phases
of
working
on
these
things,
so
washington,
new
jersey,
connecticut,
have
all
implemented
different
oversight,
committees
that
have
different
strengths
and
different
areas.
You
know
that
that
still
need
work,
but
I
know
there's
and
also
working
with
fam.
J
So
fam
is
the
other
like
contact,
that's
doing
a
lot
of
prison
oversight
work
and
they
so
like
one
of
the
ways
when
we're
talking
about
like
I
said
it
earlier
like
the
diversity
is,
there
is
a
their
staff.
They
are
paid
like
paid
staff
neutral,
not
connected
to
anything
with
ndoc
and
the
way
that
it's
happened
before
is
that
people
were,
or
at
least
I
think
it
was
in
connecticut
that
they
submitted
like
suggestions
of
here.
J
Here's
somebody
that
we
would
nominate
to
be
on
this
board
that
would
be,
and
it
included
an
incarcerated
man,
an
incarcerated
woman,
a
family
of
the
incar
somebody
with
a
family
member
and
currently
incarcerated
a
medical
expert,
a
legal
expert
and
what
the
way
that
they
did
it
is.
There
was
like
a
stakeholders
group
that
made
suggestions
of
here.
We
would
like
to
see
this
person
on
the
panel
and
then
the
legislative
committee
decided
yes
or
no.
If
those
people
were
on
the
committee,
I
know
that's
how
it
happened
in
connecticut.
J
I
don't
know
all
the
specifics
with
new
jersey
and
washington,
but
those
three
are
my
understanding
of
like
some
of
the
strongest
oversight
committees
right
now
or
like
that
use
the
best
practice.
A
I
Quick,
thank
you
so
much
so
several
times
there
has
been
this
referral
reference
to
a
man
down
charge
and
it
was
mentioned
that
this
charge
was
150.
I
I
don't
have
a
clear
description
of
what
is
a
man
down?
What
does
that
mean?
Can
someone
please
explain
that
to
me.
P
Tanika
smith,
now
I
believe
it's
sports
injury
is
the
more
expensive
one,
but
a
man
down,
I
believe,
is
like
75.
That's
when
the
nurse
has
to
come,
see
you
or
you
have
to
be
taken
to
the
infirmary
to
whatever
meta
like.
If
you
you
can't
breathe,
so
call
a
man
down,
so
the
nurse
could
come
see
you
and
maybe
they'll,
put
you
on
the
cart
and
take
you
up
to
the
infirmary.
J
And
then
they
charge
you,
but
I
do
want
to
give
some
like
examples
like
people
call
man
down,
and
it
doesn't
mean
that
somebody
comes
immediately.
So
I
want
to
like
make
sure
that
we
understand
that
there's
a
young
man
that
just
recently
passed
away
at
high
desert
who
had
what
appeared
to
be
a
stomach
bug.
He
was
given
a
cova
test.
He
was
given
cold
medicine
and
within
five
days
from
start
to
end,
he
was
brain
dead.
J
He
actually
had
e
coli,
but
he
was
calling
man
down
and
nobody
came
and
the
cell
buttons
weren't
working
like
these,
like
mandela
down,
there's
a
price
to
it.
But
I
just
want
to
be
clear
that
to
think
that
that
is
some
type
of
emergency
responsive
process
is
not
accurate.
I
D
D
Thank
you.
I
mean
it's
staffing
in
the
state
of
nevada,
especially
for
all
of
our
facilities,
regardless,
if
it's
mental
health,
because
I
am
a
psychiatric
nurse
for
the
state-
is
a
big
issue
right
now
and
it's
it
involves
even
the
safety
of
inmates.
It
involves
the
safety
of
correction
officers.
It
involves
the
safety
of
peace
officers,
mht
staff
and
nursing.
D
So
it's
something
that
we
have
to
really
look
into
and
now
be
competitive
with
pay,
because,
if
there's
more
places,
especially
in
carson
city,
offering
better
salary,
we're
losing
good
people
who
could
possibly
make
a
good
career
choice
and
stay
with
the
state-
and
I
mean
it's
just
not
going
to
be
resolved
until
we
get
that
issue
under
control
of
making
it
a
better
working
environment
for
everybody
thanks.
That's
it.
A
Thank
you
all
right,
excellent
information
very
helpful,
and
I
think
that
brings
us
to
our
conclusion
of
what
was
agenda
item
number
10.
A
So
we
appreciate
you
being
here
and
we
will
move
on
to
our
next
agenda
item
after
a
very
quick
break,
we're
going
to
take
about
10
minutes
and
I'm
going
to
ask
for
your
indulgence.
As
the
members
will
eat
will
be
eating
lunch
up
here
on
the
diet,
while
you
present,
because
we
we
will
give
you
our
full
attention,
but
we
don't
want
to
cause
any
undue
delay.
So,
let's
all
be
back
here
at
10
to
1
12
50
and
get
started
in
a
few
minutes.
Thanks.
A
I
Good
afternoon,
thank
you,
madam
chair
and
committee
members.
My
name
is
lashon
smith
and
I'm
the
acting
assistant
to
director
daniels
nevada
department
of
corrections.
Our
mission
is,
it
is
the
mission
of
nevada
department,
of
corrections
to
protect
society
by
maintaining
offenders
in
safe
and
humane
conditions,
while
preparing
them
for
successful
re-entry
back
into
society.
We
operate
as
one
team
proud
of
our
reputation
as
leaders
in
corrections.
Our
staff
will
utilize
innovative
programming
that
will
focus
on
education,
mental
health,
substance,
abuse
treatment
and
vocational
training
as
the
cornerstones
to
an
offender's
rehabilitation.
I
Q
The
nevada
department
of
corrections
remains
committed
to
the
health
and
safety
of
its
offenders,
employees
and
volunteers.
We
continue
to
be
diligent
in
providing
selfless
service
to
the
citizens
of
nevada.
I
want
to
thank
madam
chair
senator
melanie
scheible
for
the
invitation
to
present
an
overview
of
the
challenges
facing
the
department
of
corrections.
Q
Q
All
agency
staff
were
designated
essential,
whether
post-certified
or
not,
and
man
the
line,
while
many
in
other
agencies
work
from
home.
Ndoc
staff
have
also
endured
child
care
issues,
spousal,
income
loss,
personal
and
family
sickness
and
even
death,
yet
still
came
to
work
in
service
of
the
public
offenders
and
one
another
in
dlc.
Ndoc
staff
are
heroes
and
should
be
acknowledged
as
such,
just
as
others
are
extended.
A
warm
thank
you
and
appreciation
for
their
service
moving
forward.
Q
Ndoc
has
completely
revisited
the
former
mission
and
vision
statement
and
has
reimagined
an
agency
that
utilizes
technology
complies
with
corrections,
industry
standards
and
implements
industry
best
practices
to
enhance
offender
safety
care
and
programming
long
term.
These
efforts
should
reduce
the
fiduciary
impact
on
the
state's
general
fund.
Q
Of
note,
the
compliance
with
the
committee's
directive
to
submit
or
slide
deck
in
advance
the
order
of
the
slide
deck
isn't
is
not
consistent
with
the
agenda.
However,
I
would
ask
that
we're
allowed
to
move
forward
with
the
slide
deck,
so
we
don't
have
to
rearrange
it
and
we're
going
to
be
as
efficient
as
possible.
So,
madam
chair,
if
you
don't
mind,
I'd
like
to
start
the
first
presentation.
H
Good
afternoon
sheriff
schaible
and
esteemed
colleagues
of
the
judiciary
of
the
judiciary
committee,
my
name
is
kimberly
smith
and
I
am
the
chief
of
human
resources
for
the
nevada
department
of
corrections.
Thank
you
for
providing
ndoc
with
this
opportunity
to
speak
with
you
all
today.
The
ndoc
follows
guided
principles
that
are
deeply
rooted
within
the
14th
amendment.
H
H
There
shall
be
no
discrimination
on
the
grounds
of
race,
color,
sex,
language,
religion,
political
or
other
opinion,
national
or
social
origin,
property,
birth
or
other
status.
Director
daniels
and
his
staff
are
staunch
supporters
in
this
ideology,
and
we
stand
behind
it.
Daily.
Human
resources
plays
a
crucial
role
in
developing
reinforcing
and
changing
an
organization's.
Culture,
pay
performance
management,
training
and
development,
recruitment
and
onboarding,
and
supporting
the
agency's
values
are
all
essential
elements
of
the
professional
culture
covered
by
human
resources
slide.
H
Those
challenges
include
staff,
recruitment,
selection
and
retention,
training
and
agency
succession
planning.
We
too
see
this
trend
happening
and
we
at
ndoc
work
with
the
department
of
human
resources,
management
for
the
state,
pers
or
public
employees,
retirement
system
and
other
state
organizations.
H
There
is
a
deep
respect
for
all
of
our
sister
agencies
who
partner
with
us
in
efforts
to
assist
in
recruiting
and
retaining
staff,
but
still
the
reality
is
that
people
aren't
staying,
they
are
burned
out
and
they
can
acquire
a
better
wage
working
down
the
street
or
even
changing
their
vocation.
That
is
the
reality
slide.
H
Florida
has
temporarily
closed
three
prisons
out
of
more
than
140
facilities
because
of
understand
because
of
understaffing
and
vacancy
rates
have
nearly
doubled
in
the
last
year.
At
federal
prisons
across
the
country,
correctional
officers
are
picketing
in
front
of
their
facilities
over
understaffing,
while
everyone
from
prison
teachers
to
dentists
are
pulled
in
to
cover
over
security
shifts.
H
That
is
our
reality.
Members
of
the
judiciary
committee.
Our
people
are
tired
and
no
matter
how
innovative
we
attempt
to
be
without
a
recruiting
budget,
no
matter
how
many
white
papers
or
swot
analysis,
the
ndoc
creates
the
efforts
are
rejected,
and
the
answer
is
no.
This
has
been
reported
in
my
short
time
as
the
chief
of
human
resources
at
many
board
of
prison
commission
hearings.
We
are
seeing
a
dip
in
staff
due
to
pay
mandated
overtime,
lack
of
merit,
increases,
promotion
and
opportunity.
H
Many
times
we
are
losing
or
fighting
a
losing
battle.
Excuse
me
slide
in
efforts
to
maintain
best
practices
for
ndoc's,
employee
recruitment
and
retention.
Our
endeavors
continue
note
that
we
are
mentoring
from
within
both
in-house
and
professionally,
through
accredited
programming
and
professional
development
opportunities
to
reach,
attract
and
retain
the
very
best
service
from
our
current
employee
pool.
H
H
We
have
reached
out
to
the
retired
police
officers
association
and
we
have
pulled
an
internal
ndoc
report
of
upcoming
retirees.
In
addition,
we
are
also
looking
to
contracting
staff,
as
initiatives
grow
to
stabilize
staffing
within
within
ndoc.
Excuse
me,
retention
and
recruitment
retain
or
remain
a
constant
focus
for
all
of
ndoc
slide
retention
and
recruiting
efforts
moving
forward.
H
While
the
budget
continues
to
hinder
ndoc,
we
are
still
dedicated
to
being
innovative,
inventive
and
pioneering,
as
it
relates
to
doing
more
with
less.
We
have
submitted
a
budget
concept
request
to
garner
recruitment
funds
needed
and,
quite
frankly,
are
required.
If
you
want
to
make
any
traction
with
relevant
and
deliberate
recruitment
and
retention
efforts.
H
Inter-Departmentally,
we
have
instituted
the
following:
we
have
in.
We
have
initiated
internal
recruiting
summits,
we've
created
an
ndoc
recruitment
letter.
We
have
been
reviewing
our
internal
spreadsheets
that
have
been
pulled
from
human
resources
data
warehouse
to
recruit
those
employees
who
might
have
resigned.
H
The
ndoc
staffing
reads
as
follows:
ndoc
is
authorized
to
fill
2936
positions.
Ndoc
has
a
full-time
employee
rate
of
2139
positions
filled
that
is,
72.85
percent
filled
with
the
27.15
vacancy
rate.
Ndoc
data
correctional
specific
data
reads
as
follows:
ndoc
is
authorized
to
fill
1547
correctional
officer
positions.
H
Ndoc
has
filled
1064
of
those
that
equates
to
68.77
filled
with
a
31.23
vacancy
rate
slide.
The
nevada
department
of
corrections
prides
itself
on
its
green
and
gold
staff.
The
green
team
consists
of
custody
uniformed
personnel,
sworn
officers
and
correctional
assistants.
The
gold
team
constitutes
non-custody
personnel.
H
All
of
our
staff
are
valuable
and
appreciated
members
of
our
team.
We
are
all
one
one
fight
the
nevada
department
of
corrections
remains
conscientious,
forward-thinking,
accountable
and
essential.
The
correctional
officers
and
all
staff
play
a
pivotal
role
within
the
organization
by
exerting
the
incredible
responsibility
of
maintaining
the
order
and
safety
of
nevada's
correctional
facilities.
H
K
Excuse
me
good
afternoon,
madam
chair
and
committee
members,
for
the
record,
my
name
is
lisa
lucas
deputy
director
support
services
for
the
divided
partner
department
of
corrections.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
today,
I'm
going
to
do
a
quick,
just
highlight
high
level
overview
of
the
state
of
technology
at
the
nevada
department
of
corrections.
K
What
you're
seeing
on
the
left
side
of
the
slide
is
a
myriad
of
areas
that
would
be
impacted
by
moving
to
a
single
unified
platform
we're
calling
overwatch.
Currently
what
we
have
is
is
what
looks
like
on
the
left
to
name
a
few
of
these
areas.
K
It
would
be
video
surveillance
notice,
our
offender
management
system
and
calls
like
many
agencies
and
offices.
Probably
even
your
own
nevada
department
of
corrections
started
using
more
technologies
and
as
we've
added
new
software
applications
or
new
systems
to
help
achieve
new
improvements,
it
also
added
new
complexities.
K
Excuse
me
and
think
about
the
bone
yard
of
technologies
that
were
implemented
over
the
years,
that
required
too
many
resources
or
specific
knowledge
to
manage
and
maintain
and
became
obsolete
once
the
one
person
who
knew
how
to
use
it
left
going
forward.
This
is
not
sustainable,
especially
with
all
the
emerging
technology
and
lack
of
staffing.
K
K
K
With
our
current
setup,
many
of
our
technologies
and
applications
are
outdated
and
not
integrated.
We
have
to
search
numerous
databases,
hard
files,
video
files,
interview
staff
and
offenders,
etc
to
obtain
information,
which
is
very
time
consuming.
Many
partner
agencies
such
as
pearl
probation,
pardons
board
and
the
sentencing
commission
rely
on
department
of
corrections
for
pertinent
data.
K
We
could
be
more
effective
and
more
efficient
if
we
weren't
spending
so
much
time
searching
for
and
putting
all
the
pieces
together.
Next
slide
this
single
application
platform
we're
calling
overwatch
centralizes
data
and
streamlines
the
way
individual
applications
connect
in
order
to
enable
collaboration,
speed
up
processes,
improve
security
and
apply
advanced
analytics
by
improving
information
flow
from
call
to
case
closure.
We
reduce
the
strain
on
critical
personnel
and
restore
focus
on
offender
and
staff
safety.
K
K
This
is
an
example
of
what
overwatch
system
would
look
like
for
department
of
corrections.
It
would
be
on
a
larger
scale,
as
we
would
have
a
command
center
in
the
north
and
one
in
the
south.
You
can
see
how
all
the
different
technologies
are
tied
together
and
monitored,
including
surveillance
cameras,
facial
recognition
license
plate
recognition,
body
cameras.
K
A
I
think
we'll
we
appreciate
that,
thank
you
and
I
think
we'll
go
ahead
and
keep
going
through
the
presentations
and
then
do
all
of
the
questions
at
the
end.
Okay,.
K
I
would
like
to
introduce
dr
michael
minev,
our
medical
director.
Thank
you.
D
D
D
Our
offenders
have
access
to
a
variety
of
health
care
visits
which
include
intake
assessments,
acute
and
chronic
care
clinics,
vaccination
clinics,
specialty
care
clinics,
dental
clinics
and
mental
health
clinics,
chronic
care
visits
for
our
offenders
with
long-term
medical
conditions
are
treated
by
our
medical
staff,
the
most
common
of
which
are
diabetes,
hypertension
and
asthma.
Next
slide.
D
D
The
nevada
department
of
corrections
is
deeply
committed
to
improving
access
to
health
care
services
for
all
our
offenders.
Medical
care
continued
throughout
the
pandemic.
Despite
numerous
challenges,
and
despite
the
loss
of
31.5
percent
of
our
medical
staff
to
attrition
during
the
pandemic,
the
nevada
department
of
corrections
continues
to
provide
medical
care
to
all
of
our
offenders,
dispensing
147
097
medication,
prescriptions
in
2021
alone.
D
D
R
R
The
program
division
consists
of
offender
management,
mental
health,
substance,
abuse,
re-injury,
education,
recreational
therapy,
religious
services
and
law
library,
as
we
begin
our
endeavor
to
restore
a
sense
of
normalcy
to
the
department.
The
programs
division
continues
to
work
closely
with
facility
administrators
in
creating
program
schedules
that
are
conducive
to
the
day-to-day
operations.
R
Relaxing
the
covet
protocols
allow
an
increase
in
daily
operations,
including
movement
group
settings
and
community
providers
entrance,
and
we
understand
that
safety
and
security
are
optimal.
Each
department
in
the
program
division
has
developed
post-covet
schedules
that
have
been
implemented
and
will
dovetail
with
the
daily
and
safe
operation
of
our
facilities.
R
R
While
in
custody,
offenders
will
receive
evidence-based
programs
which
are
innovative
and
challenge
their
mindset
for
preparation
back
into
the
community.
These
effective
and
efficient
programs
will
reduce
the
economic
and
social
impact
of
mass
incarceration,
while
providing
opportunities
for
offenders
in
custody
to
become
more
proac,
productive
members
of
society.
R
Our
education
department,
as
you
can
see,
we
have
numerous
school
districts
throughout
the
state
as
well
as
colleges
that
we
that
we
team
up
with,
as
we
all
know,
the
colvit
19
pandemic-
proved
to
be
deadly
and
resource
depleting
for
all
sectors
of
society,
especially
hard
hit
or
correctional
facilities.
The
pandemic
challenged
education
in
all
ndoc
facilities
prior
to
the
outbreak.
R
All
correctional
educational
programs
throughout
the
state
of
nevada
were
offered
through
an
in-person
instruction
when
we
close
our
facilities
to
all
volunteers
and
visitors
to
mitigate
the
spread
of
covet,
educational
programs
came
to
an
abrupt
hold
and
more
profoundly.
The
inequities
of
correctional
education
came
to
the
forefront
in
nevada.
We
are
extremely
fortunate
due
to
the
incredible
passion
and
unrelenting
determination
of
our
school
districts
and
colleges.
They
came
together,
stepped
up
to
the
plate,
thought
outside
of
the
box
and
proposed
alternative
deliveries
of
instructions
which
will
continue
to
expand
in
years
to
come.
R
So,
first
and
foremost,
I
would
like
to
thank
our
school
districts
and
colleges.
There
are
eight
correctional
school
districts
and
four
colleges
throughout
the
state
of
nevada,
providing
services
to
the
ndoc
and
offenders
which
which
include
carson
city,
adult
education,
clark,
county
elko,
county
humboldt
county,
lincoln,
county
nye,
county,
persian,
county
white
pine,
county
school
districts,
and
there
are
four
colleges:
western
nevada
college,
truckee
meadows,
community
college,
great
basin,
college
college
of
southern
nevada.
R
As
well
as
showing
some
of
the
enrollments
high
school
equivalencies
and
diplomas
that
have
been
awarded
as
well
as
vocational
certificates,
with
the
onset
of
the
covet
19
pandemic,
our
school
districts
began
packing
instruction
immediately.
While
this
was
not
the
most
effective
instructional
delivery.
School
districts
created
an
individualized
case
management
system
where
all
instructors
came
together,
virtually
identified
individual
offender
educational
levels
and
the
curriculum
needed
to
help
them
progress,
instructors
dropped
off
and
divide
and
individualized
packets
at
facility
gate
houses.
R
This
process
continued
until
offenders
were
allowed
movement
with
strict
protocols
followed,
such
as
social
distancing,
mask
and
sanitation,
even
though,
with
all
the
extraordinary
circumstances,
our
school
districts
during
the
2019,
the
2021
school
years,
graduated
139,
high
school
diplomas
and
high
school
equivalencies.
In
addition
to
83
industry,
recognized
vocational
certificates.
R
Our
colleges
like
the
school
districts
began
searching
for
ways
to
offer
post-secondary
via
distant
remote
learning.
We
were
fortunate
because
our
department
is
on
the
same
polycom
system
as
the
nevada
system
of
higher
education,
so
for
the
first
time
colleges
offered
real-time
remote
instruction
through
blue
james
platform
and
once
again
due
to
the
incredible
determination
of
our
partners,
the
colleges
during
the
2019-21
school
years,
graduated
with
21,
aaa
and
a.s
degrees
and
33
college
certificates,
the
pandemic
required
ndoc
school
districts
and
colleges
to
explore
remote
learning
opportunities.
R
However,
due
to
the
incredible
determination
of
our
school
districts,
colleges
and
ndoc
administration,
we
will
continue
to
provide
remote
access
through
polycom
and
hybrid
classes.
Moreover,
we
will
expand
remote
learning
opportunities,
maintaining
quality
and
rigor
in
all
programming,
including
vocational
industry,
recognized
or
certification
before
release.
R
So
after
much
research,
including
working
with
our
legislators
and
other
states
and
sharing
best
practices,
we
anticipate
the
following
remote
learning
opportunities
to
be
available
to
our
offenders
by
the
end
of
2022,
going
into
2023,
including
zoom
instruction
hot
spots,
with
certain
ranges,
facility,
internet
computer
labs
and
google
classrooms,
and
I
almost
forgot.
We
also
have
the
tablets
which
we
all
currently
have
rfp
and
we're
going
through
the
selected
vendors
right
now.
So
tablets
are
on
the
horizon
as
well.
R
You
there
I
can't
read
my
print
on
this,
so
small.
We
can't
put
on
that
screen
up
there.
R
Oh
no
worries
as
of
june
2022
re-entry
has
successfully
moved
to
new
to
a
new
location
at
three
lakes
valley,
correctional
center
to
expand
and
develop
regional
community
training
center.
The
re-entry
department
is
continuing
to
solicit
candidates
to
fill
vacant
positions
throughout
the
state,
while
fighting
the
challenges
of
smart
21
delays
and
covet
19.
R
R
Some
of
these
community
partners
consists
of
culinary
academy
of
las
vegas
dieter
job
connect
foundation
for
independent
tomorrow,
also
known
as
fit
behavioral.
Health
group,
sierra
sage,
recovery,
court
hope
for
prisoners,
las
vegas,
institute
of
welding,
national
national
technical
institute
freedom,
house,
crossroads,
workforce
connection,
nevada
works
and
building
in
trades.
R
We've
also,
due
to
covet
19,
looked
at
revising
nrs
209.417
as
a
result
of
the
covet
pandemic.
It
was
clear
to
the
nevada
department
of
corrections
that
increased
access
to
telecommunication
devices
by
offenders
was
necessary
in
order
to
improve
the
services
provided
and
make
a
real
impact
on
statewide
recidivism
reduction.
The
requested
revision
to
the
nevada,
revised
statute
209.417
will
enable
the
director
of
the
nevada
department
of
corrections
to
determine
with
the
approval
of
the
board
of
prison
commissioners.
What
telecommunication
access
offenders
have.
R
This
revision
would
provide
controlled
access
considerations
to
telecommunications
telecommunication
devices
for
legal
medical,
educational,
re-entry
and
other
critical
transitional
services
necessary
to
prepare
offenders
for
their
successful
return
to
our
community.
At
this
time
I
would
like
to
introduce
dr
green,
and
then
I
will
close
it
out.
Dr.
S
It's
a
pleasure
to
present
to
this
committee
the
strengths
and
challenges
we
face
in
the
nevada
department
of
corrections
when
it
comes
to
the
delivery
of
mental
health
services
to
our
offenders.
I
anticipate
that
this
committee
will
hear
today
that
mental
health
services
vary
depending
on
the
type
of.
S
S
In
addition
to
those
who
may
use
substances
who
may
require
safe
detoxification
when
the
ndoc
receives
new
offenders,
the
challenges
found
in
detention
centers
have
typically
been
addressed.
It
is
our
responsibility
to
recognize
those
in
need
of
continuity
of
care
which
begins
during
the
intake
process.
S
The
mental
health
department
has
a
primary
focus
on
those
individuals
who
may
have
psychiatric
histories
who
may
be
on
current
psychotropic
medications,
share
past
suicide.
History
convey
current
suicidal
ideation
may
have
been
a
victim
or
a
perpetrator
of
violence
and
or
who
have
potential
developmental
or
intellectual
disabilities.
S
Turning
now
to
the
powerpoint
slides,
the
services
provided
by
the
mental
health
department
can
be
broken
into
three
primary
areas.
First,
we
provide
for
the
clinical
services
for
the
offenders.
These
services
include,
but
are
not
limited
to
suicide
prevention,
crisis
intervention
and
brief
counseling.
S
S
S
S
S
The
mental
health
department
is
also
interested
in
helping
offenders,
grow
and
learn
new
coping
strategies
prior
to
their
release
to
the
community.
In
this
last
slide,
you
will
see
the
different
types
of
psycho-educational
programs
offered.
Each
program
is
evidence-based
and
are
rooted
in
cognitive
behavior
therapy.
Gender
responsive
programs
are
provided
at
our
women's
prison.
S
R
Again,
brian
williams,
senior
deputy
director
of
programs,
in
closing,
we
cannot.
We
cannot
anticipate
what
2022
might
look
like.
However,
the
department
and
programs
division
will
continue
to
explore
new
ideals
in
an
attempt
to
enhance
existing
services
and
provide
additional
services
to
the
offender
population
while
continuing
to
utilize
evidence-based
programs
and
best
practices.
T
T
T
T
Fifteen
thousand
eight
hundred
and
forty
four
offenders
received
a
maximum
amount
of
seven
hundred
and
eighty
one
thousand
four
hundred
and
seventy
credits
as
a
result
of
ab241
next
slide.
Please
the
pie
chart
that
I
have
in
front
of
you
is
a
breakdown
of
how
the
10
244
offenders
benefited
from
the
application
of
the
241
credits.
T
T
Next
slide,
please
to
understand
credits
in
general
is
we've
heard
from
members
of
the
committee
we've
heard
from
the
community
we've
heard
from
members
of
our
own
department
and
stakeholders
that
credits
can
be
a
very
complicated
thing
to
understand.
I'm
going
to
attempt
to
explain
some
of
the
various
types
of
credits
that
are
available
that
were
awarded
during
both
pre
during
the
pandemic
and
post
pandemic,
and
try
to
illustrate
the
efforts
of
the
department
flat.
Credit
is
simply
that
for
each
day
an
offender
serves
and
a
day
comes
off
their
sentence.
T
T
The
only
reason
why
these
credits
are
taken
away
is
through
a
formal
disciplinary
process
of
a
finding
of
guilt,
and,
through
that
committee,
a
prescribed
amount
by
policy
can
be
removed
from
the
offender.
The
offender
also
has
the
ability
to
go
and
petition
a
full
classification
committee
committee
to
have
those
statutory
good
time
credits
restored.
T
The
director
has
the
authority
to
award
that
individual
exceptional,
meritorious
service
credits,
those
five
credits
or
its
types
of
credits
are
what
the
department
has
authority
over
relative
to
sentence.
Calculation
next
slide,
please,
as
we
take
a
look
at
how
the
department
fared
as
it
relates
to
credits.
T
T
Like
our
communities,
our
institutions
were
impacted,
credits
related
to
education
and
programming
did
reduce
for
the
available
accessibility,
work,
credit
and
the
ability
for
inmates
to
work
also
did
reduce.
But
it's
also
important
to
understand
that
over
the
course
of
this
four
year
period,
our
population
as
a
whole
reduced
with
less
inmates
in
our
population,
less
credits
can
be
earned.
T
T
Excuse
me
in
2021,
241
0015
credits
are
awarded
and
then
in
the
first
quarter
through
may
the
declaration
of
of
the
state
of
emergency
being
rescinded
by
the
governor.
An
additional
fifty
six
thousand
four
hundred
and
sixty
credits
were
awarded
exceptional
marriage,
exceptional
meritorious
service
credits
under
the
authorization
of
the
director
evaluating
the
effectiveness
and
the
positive
outcome
of
the
ab241
credits.
The
director,
although
required,
to
have
a
criteria
in
which
to
exercise
his
authority
with
these
credits,
set
us
in
motion
to
identify
a
group
of
individuals
that
acted
above
and
beyond.
T
T
This
number
is
the
july
batch
has
already
been
issued
and
it
does
not
reflect
in
here,
but
up
until
the
development
of
this
powerpoint
35
820
credits
in
this
category
were
awarded
to
those
3
700
inmates,
with
at
a
projected
outcome
to
equal
333,
000,
more
credits
when
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
please
so
what
does
that
mean?
How
does
that
break
down
per
offender?
So
if
we
look
at
our
pre-pandemic
year
of
2019,
the
number
you
see
there
is
the
total
amount
of
credits
that
were
earned
by
offenders.
T
You
see
our
population
decreased
by
1119,
although
the
credits
awarded
equated
out
to
2068
credits
more
than
that
of
the
pre-pandemic
year
in
2021,
our
population
continued
to
decrease,
and
at
this
point
we
are
1286
inmates,
less
offenders
less
than
our
custody
than
that
of
the
2019
year
and
the
equivalent
of
2050
credits
were
awarded
to
the
offenders
in
2022
understanding.
This
is
just
representation
of
the
first
quarter.
T
We
have
640
credits
that
have
been
awarded
thus
far
with
that
projection.
Understanding
that
the
merit
credit
associated
with
high
school
diplomas
and
higher
education
degrees
that
concluded
with
the
2020
school
year
2022
school
year,
have
not
been
added
into
that.
But
we
are
on
track
to
look
at
1931
or
almost
equivalent
to
that
to
a
pre-pandemic
year
with
almost
2
800
less
inmates
in
our
population.
T
T
They
all
are
relative
to
when
an
individual
is
convicted.
Those
nrs's
also
dictate
what
types
of
crime
credits
can
be
applied
to.
What
maximum
limits
can
be
applied
related
to
the
meritorious
certain
meritorious
credits,
you
can
only
earn
a
max
of
90
in
a
calendar
year.
Other
meritorious,
like
the
exceptional
meritorious
service
credits,
are
immune
to
that
cap
and
can
be
in
addition,
too.
Next
slide.
Please.
T
Three
more
following
nrs's,
with
the
last
nrs
being
the
the
formalization
of
ab241
into
law
that
going
forward.
If
we
ever
god
help
us
if
we
do
face
a
pandemic
again
of
this
gratit,
this
gravity,
the
law
is
now
codified
there
in
place
that
we
can
immediately
go
to
that
without
having
to
use
the
legislative
process
to
be
able
to
offset
any
negative
impact
to
our
offender
population
because
of
a
pandemic
next
slide.
Please.
T
T
T
If
I
can
draw
your
attention,
this
report
is
used
commonly
when
a
offender
has
a
question
related
to
how
credits
work,
some
confusion
or
maybe
a
concern
that
something
wasn't
applied
correctly.
They
have
the
ability
to
go
to
their
unit
case
worker.
The
unit
case
worker
could
pull
this
report
up
and
sit
with
the
offender
and
go
through
line
by
line
and
be
able
to
identify
any
concerns.
T
If
we
start
at
the
top
of
the
page,
we
see
the
identified
sentence
date
or
sentence
dt.
That
is
the
date
in
which
the
offender
is
sentenced.
Right.
Next,
to
that,
we
see
that
numeric
number
of
120
referred
to
as
the
jail
credits,
jail
credits
are
awarded
by
the
judge.
Through
the
judgment
of
conviction
to
the
offender,
the
department
has
no
authority
to
alter
change,
delete
ad
related
to
those
credits.
Those
are
awarded
by
the
judge
through
the
judgment
of
conviction
that
will
bring
us
to
our
retro
date.
T
If
we
take
our
sentencing
date,
take
our
jail
credits.
Now
we
have
our
retro
date.
Our
retro
date
is
very
important
because
that's
when
time
begins,
that
is
when
sentence
calculation
moves
forward.
You
see
the
max
term,
usually
in
on
these
reports.
It's
either
spelled
out
in
years
or
months,
but
right
next
to
that
the
days
owed,
you
will
see
that
that
is
an
equivalent
of
the
max
term.
T
The
proposed
or
parole
eligibility
date
is
that
next,
with
a
proposed
expiration
date
by
statute,
the
nevada
department
of
corrections
is
required
to
notify
the
the
parole
board
when
a
defender
is
approaching
their
parole
eligibility
date.
That
is
primarily
the
reason
why
we
have
to
project
credits
forward.
T
T
T
The
offender
came
to
us
in
july,
11th
of
20
of
2017
part
way
through
the
month.
Flat
is
a
day
for
day
and
therefore
21
days
left
in
the
month.
Therefore,
that
credit
is
applied.
If
you
go
directly
over
to
the
right
hand,
side
takes
the
mat,
the
day's
owed
subtracted
21
days.
You
now
have
that
new
figure,
and
with
each
of
these
credits
as
we
move
down
the
page,
you
will
see
that
right
hand
number
continue
to
decrease
in
accordance
with
the
credit
earned.
A
C
C
T
T
C
Okay,
so
am
I
understanding
this
correctly
that
the
flat
time
is
really
just
time
served.
T
A
T
T
C
Absolutely
sorry,
I'm
not
I'm
not
an
accounting
major,
so
I'm
gonna
make
a
statement.
Tell
me
if
I'm
correct,
okay.
C
T
I
Okay,
so
you're
welcome.
So
if
you
look
at
the
sentence
date,
11
8
2017,
that's
the
day
the
judge
said
you're
going
to
come
to
prison,
and
so,
while
he
was
waiting
to
come
to
prison,
he
was
there
120
days.
So
when
he
got
to
us,
we
set
it
at
11-7,
but
then
we
subtracted
the
120
because
he
technically
had
already
done
that
time
in
jail.
I
C
So
I'm
I'm
with
you
all
the
way
up
until
that
point,
I
guess
I
I
feel
like
I
guess
what
I'm
confused
about
is
how
the
jail
credits
are
applied
both
by
retroactively
moving
the
date
and
then
I
also
see
jail
credits
applied
by
literally
saying
7
11
to
7
31,
we're
giving
them
21
days,
eight
one
to
eight
thirty
one,
we're
giving
them
31
days,
so
9
1
to
9
30
we're
giving
them
another
30
days.
So
it
seems
like
you
applied
it
twice.
I
I
They
got
to
us
july,
11
to
july
31st
that
is
21
days
and
that's
flat
if
he
never
did
anything
else,
but
was
in
prison,
we're
going
to
give
them
flat
days
for
the
month
so
that
subtracted
from
the
11th
when
it
started-
and
I
misspoke
I
said
it
didn't
come
from
the
2021.-
I
meant
it's
from
the
120.,
so
it
does.
I
misspoke
I
apologize
for
that.
So
again
they
get
day
for
day.
I
So
if
they're
in
prison
and
again
they
got
there
in
july,
we're
going
to
give
them
one
day
for
every
day,
they're
there
is
subtracted
off
the
end
of
the
sentence.
That's
why
it's
21,
and
then
it
goes
to
the
next
flat
is
31
because
there
were
31
days
in
that
month.
The
next
flat
goes
to
30
days
because
there
were
30
days
in
that
month.
So.
T
Thank
you,
miss
smith,
senator
in
part,
the
judgment
of
conviction
is
not
the
the
jail
credits
are
under
the
authority
of
the
judge
under
nrs's
that
we,
the
department
of
corrections,
does
not
have
the
authority
to
adjust
tweak
or
change.
So
when
the
offender
comes
to
us
and
we
start
with
a
under
nrs.
T
Nrs
176
that
talks
about
the
the
legal
definition
of
when
time
starts.
That's
where
we
come
to
that
july,
so
the
jail
credits,
we
have
no
say
in
one
way
or
the
other.
The
judge
dictates
that,
but
we
do
have
competing
definition.
That
says
when
time
has
to
start
and
when
we
start
applying
these
credits.
C
C
So
if,
if
it's
definitional
issues
that
were
you
know
that
we're
having
or
things
don't
jive
and
it
results
in
a
convoluted
process,
we
want
to
know
about
that,
so
that
we
can
attempt
to
smooth
it
out
because,
as
we're
all
having
this
discussion
here,
you
know
I
I
I
understand
now,
but
I
know
it
is.
It
is
impossible
for
an
offender
to
have
this
same
back
and
forth
discussion
to
try
and
understand
their
credits.
C
So
please
continue
I'm
with
you
now,
but
I
I
want
us
all
to
keep
in
mind
how
we
can
improve
on
on
this,
to
make
it
all
a
bit
simpler.
T
T
So
in
this
case,
because
the
offender
came
in
the
middle
of
the
month
that
equated
out
to
14
of
those
20
stat
credits
being
applied
towards
their
sentence,
when
the
offender
has
the
ability
to
work,
they
work
and
you
will
see
at
the
medium
custody
or
above
10,
credits
awarded
there
or
20
credits
at
the
minimum
custody
and
below
level
on
page
one
as
we
go
about
halfway
down
to
january
30th,
you
will
see
that
this
individual
earned
60
merit
credits
related
to
an
entrepreneurial
class
that
americlass
that
he
took.
T
T
As
we
go
to
page
two
of
this
document,
you
will
see
that
about
halfway
down.
You
can
see
the
the
the
rolling
of
the
credits
and
the
continuing
on,
but
this
offender
completed
three
phases
of
commitment
to
change
and
was
awarded
a
total
of
45
days
of
merit
credit
and
therefore
that's
applied
directly
across
on
the
right-hand
side.
T
So
they
get
work
at
the
max
amount.
They
will
get
stat
at
the
max
amount
and
they
will
get
flat
at
the
max
amount
that
helps
bring
us
to
that
parole,
eligibility
date,
and
so
that
is
how,
when
we
talk
about
projecting
credits
forward,
at
least
in
the
current
way
that
we
have
to
do
it,
that
is
the
explanation
behind
it
and
as
we
go
all
the
way
to
the
the
last
page
of
page
six,
you
see
that
that
countdown
goes
all
the
way
to
zero
that
date,
that
is
represented
there.
T
If
we
can
go
to
example,
three,
this
one
is
a
little
more
complicated
as
it
has
a
pro
revocation
and
the
impact
of
losing
stat
credits,
because
the
parole
board
has
stepped
in
and
removed
the
parole
from
the
offender.
In
this
case,
the
offender
was
granted.
Parole
went
out
was
violated,
was
bought
back
to
the
parole
board.
A
revocation
hearing
was
conducted,
the
revocation
was
found
to
have
merit
and
therefore
the
stat
credit
was
removed.
T
You
see
that
articulated
the
stat
credit
relative
to
that
parole,
violation
and
that
parole
violation
only
so
you
see
that
articulated
all
the
way
through
the
page
there.
Meanwhile,
however,
you
see
that
the
offender
is
still
earning
stat.
The
offender
is
still
earning
flat
and
when
employed,
the
offender
still
earns
work.
T
Let
me
correct
that
I
want
to
make
sure
I
said
that
the
offender
can
still
earn
flat.
This,
the
offender
can
still
earn
work
and
the
offender
can
still
earn
merit
during
the
duration
of
the
suspension
of
stat,
the
offender
cannot
earn
stat
in
this
particular
case.
On
page
two,
if
you
go
about
halfway
down,
you
see
that,
even
though
this
offender
is
in
the
status
of
the
revocation,
he's
still
actively
engaged
in
programs
and
therefore
earning
merit
credit
in
the
three
examples
that
I
have
presented
to
you.
T
You
will
see
ab241
credits
applied
in
this
particular
case
with
this
offender
because
of
the
parole
violation,
he
begins
to
receive
the
ab241
credits
at
five
a
month.
You
see
the
one
two
three
four
five
entries
there.
The
offender
is
then
granted
a
new
parole.
The
offender
goes
out
on
parole
and
temporarily.
The
ab241
credits
are
suspended
because
he
is
not
incarcerated
in
the
department
of
corrections
he
is
out
on
parole.
T
T
A
A
T
You're,
not
madam
chair
has
did
anything,
unfortunately,
in
conjunction
with
the
offenders,
the
notice
offender
tracking
information
that
I
have.
When
I
see
this
anomaly
of
why
the
credits
started,
I
had
my
staff
randomly
pull
these
four
samples
for
me.
I
gave
them
basic
criteria.
I
had
them
pull
when
they
pulled
these
samples
and
brought
them
to
me,
then
I
began
to
look
to
make
sure
that
I
could
explain
everything
on
the
page.
T
When
I
saw
that
very
anomaly,
I
went
into
the
classification
module
of
this
particular
offender
and
noted
that
the
offender
went
out
on
parole.
So
I
could
explain
to
the
committee:
that's
why
the
ab241
credits
paused,
because
in
every
other
case
of
the
offender
consecutive
12
months,
the
offender
was
awarded
the
credits
until
they
got
to
their
max
60..
So
I
didn't
want
to
leave
the
committee
in
a
position
where
why
did
they
get
five
here
and
then
there's
a
break
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
it
starts
up
again.
A
L
A
I
I
Yes,
my
voice
is
very
distinctive.
It
is
okay,
yeah,
please
go
ahead.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
so
earlier.
You
said
that
this
report
could
be
pulled
and
someone
could
sit
down
with
someone
who's
an
offender
and
explain
all
of
this
to
them.
T
T
There
is
no
charge
related
to
the
printing
of
the
document
as
well.
If
the
if
it
comes
to
a
point
where
the
offender
requests
quite
honestly,
going
forward
and
understanding
some
of
the
the
confusion,
it
is
not
quantified
into
policy
at
this
point,
but
my
division
is
working
on
a
unified
policy
where
an
offender
could
request,
possibly
at
a
six
month
or
annual
review,
a
copy
of
there's,
obviously
other
components,
fiscal
being
one
of
them
of
what
that
would
create
that
need
to
be
considered
in
this.
I
If
you
all
don't
have
staff,
and
then
this
information
is
this
difficult
to
comprehend
and,
like
I'm,
the
least
degree
person
on
the
entire
committee
right
and
but
I
think,
I'm
still
pretty
smart
and
it
took
me
like
three.
You
know
I
had
to
follow
along
very
closely
and
you've
been
able
to
give
us
a
a
a
very
clear
and
concise
20
minutes
or
so
multiplied
by
that
by
all
the
people
who
want
this
information
who
are
are
incarcerated
or
their
family
members.
T
Thank
you
with
me.
If
I'm
wrong,
I
I
believe
when
it
comes
to
the
offender
caseworker
level
at
the
unit,
that
by
the
time
the
offender
is
done
with
that
explanation,
he
has
a
better
understanding
because
he
can
visually
see
what
is
going
on
and
how
the
calculation
is
going
on.
I
believe
you're
absolutely
correct
in
that
when
we
go
to
translate
out
to
the
family
members
there
therein
lies
some
of
the
loss
in
translation
of
how
this
report
works
and
the
explanation.
T
One
of
the
things
that
we're
arduously,
doing
and
working
with
our
collaborating
with
the
department
of
science
and
policy
is
to
create
a
explanation
out
to
the
public
that
they
could
take
a
general
explanation
and
compare
it
to
whether
it's
this
report
or
their
son
or
daughter's
sentence
structure
and
be
able
to
understand
it,
and
they
can
take
as
much
time
as
they
need
with
that.
T
That
is
something
that
I
believe
that
they're
going
to
testify
to
a
little
bit
later,
but
I
I
am
not
here
to
represent
that
credits
are
easy
in
any
way,
shape
or
form
up
until
four
weeks
ago
I
was
as
foggy
as
the
committee
started
out
to
be
before
I
start
explaining
related
to
committees
and
have
made
this
my
primary
responsibility
to
be
able
to
sit
here
and
testify
to
and
explain
to
you
today.
T
As
we
go
on
again,
as
you
come
to
page
seven
of
the
document,
you
see
we
again
go
into
that
projected
credits
to
the
benefit
of
the
the
offender
the
max
amount
they
could
possibly
earn
related
to
that
projected
parole,
eligibility
or
projected
expiration.
T
Sample
four,
I
asked
my
staff
to
put
together
simply
because
I
think
it's
important
that
the
committee
walks
away
with
today
the
understanding
that,
through
the
last
couple
years
of
this
pandemic,
no
different
than
the
communities
that
and
the
and
the
school
districts
that
your
son
and
daughters,
my
son
and
daughter,
went
to
the
department
of
corrections
was
impacted.
Equally,
as
so
inside
the
fence.
T
Our
dedicated
program
staff
continued
to
show
up
and
to
the
extent
possible,
administer
programs
to
benefit
the
inmates,
the
offenders
that
were
preparing
for
re-entry
that
were
actively
involved
in
programs
of
re-entry
those
staff
and
in
this
example
here
you
can
see
and
as
you
reference
the
dates,
you
can
see
that
not
only
the
ab241
credits
are
being
applied,
but
also
this
individual,
if
you
go
down
to
october
of
2020,
is
earning
merit.
Credit,
60,
therapeutic
community
phase,
one
go
to
page
two.
T
This
offender
therapeutic
community
phase,
two
in
february
2022
this
date
range
a
little
bit
different
than
the
community
was
the
height
of
the
pandemic
inside
the
fence,
and
so
offenders,
to
the
extent
possible
still
had
the
ability
to
earn
merit
still
had
the
ability
to
work
and
earn
work
still
had
the
ability
to
earn
stat
and
earn
flat
through
the
course
of
the
pandemic,
and
I
think,
with
the
success
in
the
application
of
ab241
and
its
credits.
D
It's
it's
showing
on
the
on
the
laptop
here.
I'm
not
sure.
T
We
go
thank
you,
so
the
status
of
our
fender
population,
as
you
can
see
across
that
same
year,
spans.
These
are
12-month
averages
of
the
population
that
were
incarcerated.
During
that
time,
you
can
see
how
the
population
adjusted
or
was
very
little
movement
related
to
the
various
custody
levels
noted
along
the
right
hand,
side,
the
minimum
or
community
trustee.
You
see
that
there's
a
steady
decrease
to
a
single
digit
in
2022
part
of
that
is
the
the.
T
T
The
minimum
custody
eligible
inmates
are
obviously
the
group
that
were
probably
the
greatest
impacted
as
it
goes
as
it
applies
to
releasing
earlier,
and
so
you
see
that
steady
decline
of
that
population
it
is.
It
is
my
understanding
and
my
belief
that
we
will
be
very
stagnant
in
growth,
moving
forward
a
medium
custody.
T
You
see
across
the
board
that
it's
fairly
stagnant
in
the
male
population,
the
closer
you
get
to
today's
date
when
an
offender
initially
comes
in
and
they
ultimately
at
some
point
will
become
minimum
eligible
they're
still
doing
their
medium
custody
time
earning
that
eligibility
understanding
how
our
minimum
custody
population
dropped
off.
In
april
of
this
year
under
director
daniels,
we
aggressively
overhauled
our
classification
criteria,
further
expanding
the
ability
for
an
offender
to
go
to
minimum
custody
sooner
than
previously.
T
Closed
custody,
you
see
that
we
are
fairly
stagnant
across
the
four
year
period.
Close
custody
is
a
compilation
of
both
those
offenders
that
are
are
housed
in
protective
housing
or
protective
custody,
administrative
segregation
and
desperate
and
disciplinary
segregation
also
included
in
that
you
will
have
your
condemned
men
that
are
part
of
that
close
custody
group
max
custody.
You
will
see
that
there's
fairly
stagnant
due
to
certain
incidents
that
happened
in
the
department
in
2021,
a
higher
level
of
offenders,
were
moved
to
max
custody
for
a
higher
security
supervision.
T
Again,
I'm
committed
to
work
with
any
of
the
committee
members.
I
think
we
all
understand
and
agree
that
credits
are
very
complicated
aspect
and
very
critical
to
the
family
members
of
our
offenders
to
understand
when
their
offender
is
going
to
be
released
from
prison
and
anything
we
can
do
to
work
towards
sentencing
policy
change,
with
the
hope
that
we
don't
further
complicate
credits.
T
I
am
an
active
partner
and
here
at
the
committee's
disposal,
any
member
of
assembly
or
senate,
and
with
that
I
will
turn
the.
If
there
are
no
questions
I
will
move
to.
I
believe
deputy
director
bill
quinga
of
prison
industries.