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C
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A
A
Just
as
a
reminder,
if
everyone
would
please
silence
their
electronic
devices,
especially
their
cell
phones,
and
remember,
to
turn
your
volume
on
your
computer's
down
for
those
joining
by
zoom.
Please
make
sure
to
mute
your
microphone
when
you
are
not
speaking
to
minimize
any
background
noise
members
on
zoom.
Please
keep
your
video
turned
on
during
the
meeting
and
be
sure
to
mute
your
microphone
when
you
are
not
speaking
to
minimize
background
noise
for
individuals
on
zoom,
the
chat
feature
on
zoom
is
only
to
be
used
for
technical
assistance
with
bps.
A
Please
refrain
from
using
chat
to
ask
any
questions
or
to
communicate
with
each
other
again.
The
chat
feature
is
only
to
request
technical
assistance
from
bps
witnesses
who
wish
to
provide
sunset
subcommittee
members
with
additional
information
or
have
their
complete
testimony
or
handouts
included
in
the
permanent
record
should
provide
a
paper
or
electronic
copy
to
the
secretary.
A
Finally,
due
to
potential
scheduling
conflicts,
I
will
be
moving
agenda
item
number
six,
the
work
session
to
the
top
of
the
agenda
after
the
approval
of
the
previous
meetings
minutes.
Okay,
with
that,
we
can
go
ahead
and
get
started
with
our
first
agenda
item,
which
is
agenda.
Item
number
two
public
comment.
As
noted
on
our
agenda,
public
comment
will
be
limited
to
three
minutes
per
speaker.
A
We
will
start
with
public
comment
from
those
who
are
physically
present
in
las
vegas.
Then
we
will
move
to
those
who
are
physically
present
in
carson
city,
followed
by
those
who
are
on
the
telephone.
So
is
there
anyone
here
in
las
vegas
wishing
to
provide
public
comment?
E
A
A
Okay,
seeing
none
for
the
members
here,
if
you
would
please
signify
by
by
saying
aye
for
those
on
zoom,
if
you
would
just
raise
your
hand
since
I
can
see
you
all
those
in
favor,
aye,
okay,
it
looks
like
it
passes
unanimously.
I
had
senator
pickard
raising
his
hands
and
I
motion
passes
okay
again
members.
I
am
going
to
take
the
agenda
out
of
order.
I
would
like
to
get
started
with
agenda
item
number
six
as
a
reminder,
which
is
our
work
session.
A
As
a
reminder,
the
subcommittee
is
charged
with
reviewing
existing
boards
and
commissions
and
making
recommendations
regarding
their
future.
Our
next
order
of
business
is
to
consider
recommendations
for
some
of
the
boards
and
commissions
that
were
reviewed
at
our
last
meeting
for
each
entity.
The
work
session
document
presents
options
or
actions
for
consideration
by
the
members
is.
It
is
intended
to
assist
the
members
in
determining
whether
to
recommend
that
a
border
commission
be
considered
be
continued,
be
terminated,
modified
or
consolidated
with
another
board
as
a
result
of
the
subcommittee's
consideration.
A
Today,
each
item
may
be
the
subject
of
further
discussion,
refinement
or
action.
The
work
session
document
was
posted
with
the
agenda
on
the
legislature's
website.
In
some
instances
it
also
includes
suggested
actions.
These
are
presented
for
discussion
purposes
and
do
not
in
any
way
limit
the
range
of
options
available
to
us
here.
With
that,
I
will
ask
our
subcommittee
staff
to
open
the
work
session.
Mr
margaret,
when
you
are
ready,
please.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
the
record.
I
am
cesar
montgorejo
senior
policy
analyst
with
the
research
division
of
the
legislative
council
bureau
and
sunset
subcommittee
policy
analyst,
as
nonpartisan
staff.
I
can
either
advocate
for
nor
against
a
measure
that
comes
before
this
subcommittee
I'll
provide
a
short
overview
of
the
work
session
document.
F
While
the
work
session
document
is
designed
to
assist
sunset
subcommittee
in
determining
what
actions
it
wishes
to
take.
Each
item
in
this
document
may
be
subject
for
further
discussion,
refinement
or
action.
As
a
reminder
subcommittee
can
recommend,
drafting
either
bills
or
resolutions,
send
letters
to
request
certain
action
and
request
to
report
back
to
the
subcommittee
during
the
next
interim
or
put
a
position
statement
in
its
final
report.
F
With
that,
I
want
to
walk
through
the
first
item
on
the
work
session
document.
The
first
entity
in
the
work
session
document
is
the
executive
council
on
land
use
planning
advisory
council,
which
was
reviewed
on
the
march
30th
meeting.
The
purpose
of
the
executive
council
was
to
provide
technical
assistance
and
mediation
conduct
hearings
and,
if
needed,
resolve
land
use
inconsistencies
between
local
governments.
The
executive
council
consists
of
five
members,
including
four
members
of
slupac,
which
is
a
state
land
use.
F
Public
lands,
advisory
council
selected
by
its
members
and
the
administrator
of
the
division
of
state
lands,
the
from
the
state
department
of
conservation
and
natural
resources.
The
council
was
previously
reviewed
by
the
sunset
subcommittee
during
the
2013-2014
interim
and
recommended
its
continuation
with
some
statutory
changes.
These
recommendations
were
enacted
by
the
passage
of
ab144
when
from
the
2015
session,
which
added
a
requirement
that
the
members
of
the
council
be
from
different
geographic
regions
from
around
the
state
and
removed
the
executive
council
from
the
state
area
of
critical
environment
concern
planning
process.
F
At
the
march
30th
meeting,
the
administrator
of
the
division
of
state
lands
informed.
The
sunset
subcommittee
that
the
executive
council
only
meets
when
requested
by
a
local
government
and
to
mr
kerry's
knowledge.
The
council
has
never
been
formally
convened
to
resolve
local
land
use
inconsistencies.
F
The
executive
council
did
not
recommend
any
statutory
changes
to
carry
out
its
objectives.
Madam
china,
I
believe
the
representatives
of
the
executive
council
are
in
carson
city.
If
you
happen
to
have
any
questions,
but
the
question
before
the
subcommittee
is:
does
the
subcommittee
wish
to
recommend
continuation
or
termination
of
the
board
if
the
subcommittee
recommends
termination?
F
Does
the
subcommittee
have
a
recommendation
for
consolidation
with
another
entity
or
a
recommendation
to
have
the
board's
duties
transferred
to
another
entity?
If
the
subcommittee
wishes
to
recommend
continuing
the
board,
does
the
subcommittee
want
to
recommend
any
changes
to
the
board?
Madam
chair,
that's
all
the
information.
A
A
C
D
Good
morning,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee,
I'm
charlie
donahue,
I
serve
as
the
administrator
for
the
division
of
state
lands
with
me
here
today
is
scott
carey
he's
our
state
land
use
planner
and
during
our
presentation
we
reviewed
the
membership
and
the
geographic
nature
of
the
executive
council.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
the
record
scott
kerry
state
lands
planner
with
the
division
of
state
lands
to
answer
the
vice
chair's
question:
there's
no
demographic
requirement
with
within
the
within
the
the
statute.
It's
geographic
based,
and
we
have
four
members,
one
from
northwestern
nevada,
one
from
northeastern
nevada,
central
nevada
and
we
have
a
clark
county,
slough
pack,
rep
on
the
executive
council.
Currently.
C
One
of
the
things
that
I
hear
a
lot
is
from
people
they're
not
real
sure
how
to
find
the
place
to
go
and
volunteer
to
serve
on
a
border
on
a
commission
or
whatever.
But
my
request
would
be
that
there
be
every
effort
made
to
make
sure
that
the
makeup
of
this
board
looks
more
like
nevada,
and
I
am
also
concerned
if
we
don't
have
someone
representing
indigenous
communities,
because
that's
that's
a
piece
of
this
that
I'm
not
sure
we
discuss.
Often-
and
I
mentioned
this
when
I
was
on
this
committee
in
2013,
2014
interim.
D
Madame
vice
chair,
this
is
charlie
donahue
for
the
record.
I
appreciate
those
comments.
It
was
in
the
last
session
that
we
actually
added
a
member
of
the
nevada,
indian
commission
to
the
council,
and
then
it's
the
council's
purview
and
and
all
members
of
the
slupac
membership
are
appointed
by
the
governor
after
a
recommendation
from
the
local
jurisdictions
and
then
that
membership
elects
from
the
council
to
serve
on
the
executive
council,
for
if
my
memory
serves
me
correctly
for
a
two
year
period,
but
I
do
appreciate
your
comments.
C
Thank
you,
and
that
was
more
proscriptive
to
make
sure
that
it
doesn't
get
lost
because
sometimes
the
further
along
you
move
away
from
the
recommendation.
The
least
likely
it
is
for
others,
not
you
all,
but
for
others
who
come
after
you
to
to
maybe
forget
that.
But
the
other
piece
is
the
the
community's
people
of
color
communities
to
make
sure
that
that
there's
someone
represented
on
that
as
well
as
making
sure
there's
a
good
gender
mix.
D
Madam
vice
chair,
charlie
donahue
administrator
for
division
of
state
lands.
Again,
I
appreciate
your
comments
and
I
think
we
can
even
raise
these
issues
at
a
slupac
meeting
so
that
members
can
bring
that
back
to
their
local
communities.
A
A
Okay,
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye,
I
see
senator
pickard
raising
his
hand
motion
passes
unanimously.
Thank
you,
mr
kerry
and
mr
donohue
for
being
here
today
to
answer
questions.
D
A
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
for
the
record
cesaro
magrejuko
sub
committee
policy.
Analyst.
The
next
entity
is
the
committee
for
the
statewide
alert
system,
which
was
added
to
statute
in
2003
as
part
of
a
larger
effort
to
implement
the
amber
alert
system
in
nevada.
F
The
committee
is
charged
with
overseeing
the
statewide
alert
system
for
the
safe
return
of
abducted
children,
providing
training,
monitoring
and
evaluating
the
activations
of
the
system,
conducting
periodic
testing
of
the
system
and
administering
the
account
for
the
statewide
alert
system
for
the
safe
return
of
abducted
children
in
the
state
general
fund.
A
committee
membership
consists
of
15
members
representing
local
and
state
law
enforcement
broadcasters,
nevada's
department
of
transportation.
The
children's
advocate
of
the
office
of
advocate
for
missing
exploited
children
within
the
office
of
the
attorney
general
and
a
member
of
the
public.
F
During
the
sunset
subcommittee's
review
on
march
30th,
the
committee
reported
several
vacancies
and
difficulty
to
fill
the
10
law
enforcement
membership
positions.
The
sunset
subcommittee
previously
reviewed
the
committee
on
april
8
2014
and
recommended
continuation
with
several
statutory
changes
which
were
enacted
during
the
2015
legislative
session
with
the
passage
of
ab424.
F
The
committee
did
not
submit
any
statutory
changes
in
its
sunset
subcommittee
review
form.
The
question
before
the
sunset
subcommittee
is:
does
the
sunset
subcommittee
wish
to
recommend
continuation
or
termination
of
the
committee
for
the
statewide
alert
system?
If
the
sub
committee
recommends
termination?
Does
the
subcommittee
have
a
recommendation
for
consolidation
with
another
entity
or
recommendation
to
have
the
committee's
duties
transferred
to
another
entity?
If
the
subcommittee
wishes
to
write
continuing
the
committee,
does
the
subcommittee
want
to
recommend
any
change
to
the
subcommittee
to
the
committee?
F
If
the
subcommittee
recommends
continuation,
the
members
may
wish
to
consider
the
items
included
in
the
work
session
documents
on
page
pages.
Three
and
four.
These
recommendations
came
from
the
discussion
and
questions
from
the
chair
and
members
of
at
the
march
30
meeting,
which
include
amending
nrs
to
decrease
from
five
to
three.
The
number
of
members
appointed
by
the
governor
to
represent
local
government,
local
law
enforcement
and
number
two
is
amend
nrs
to
decrease
from
five
to
three.
F
The
number
of
members
appointed
by
the
governor,
who
represents
state
law
enforcement
agencies
and
number
three,
is
amend
subsection
five
of
nrs
432.3
to
require
the
committee
to
submit
to
the
governor
a
list
of
names
of
persons
qualified
for
the
membership
as
representatives
of
local
and
state
law
enforcement
agencies,
membership.
Just
all
the
information.
A
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
mulligal
committee
members.
If
you
recall,
we
reviewed
this
committee
on
march
30th
and
during
that
committee
hearing
we,
it
was
made
aware
that
we
need
to
continue
this.
This
committee
right,
I
think
our
only
decisions
now
is
whether
we
want
to
continue
it
with
the
recommendations
to
reduce
the
number
of
law
enforcement
members
who
are
represented.
A
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I
guess
the
an
additional
comment
for
me
would
be
making
sure
that
the
that
the
diversity
represents
as
much
as
is
possible
the
makeup
of
the
state.
C
I
think
we
need.
We
need
very
various
voices
to
make
sure
that
whatever
we
do
is
effective.
So
that
would
be
a
strong
consideration
to
make
sure
that
whatever
recommendations
are
made
to
the
government
include
considerations
for
members
of
bipolar
community
as
well
as
lgbtq.
So
those
those
are
the
things
that
I
would
add.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Vice
chair,
we
do
have
miss
serena
here
from
public
safety.
Would
you
like
to
hear
from
her
or
would
you
miss
serena?
I
believe
we
have
you
on
zoom
with
us.
D
C
Thank
you
for
that,
and
I
guess
what
I'm
asking
is
if
we
can
put
something
in
writing
so
that
that's
not
forgotten,
because
that
is
important.
The
state
is
much
more
diverse
than
it
was
10
15
20
years
ago
and
making
sure
that
all
voices,
as
many
voices,
diverse
voices
are
heard,
I
think,
is
rather
important.
But
thank
you.
A
D
Thank
you
just
can
you
repeat
what
you
said
that
my
concern
is
that
if
we're
not
careful,
we
might
cross
a
line,
a
constitutional
line
regarding
anything
that
might
lead
to
quotas,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
phrase
this
properly
so
that
it'll
pass
constitutional,
muster.
A
A
Okay,
thank
you,
miss
o'grady,
so,
mr
mugler,
do
I
want
you
to
restate
my
motion,
my
request.
A
Okay,
I
think
we
can
take
it
with
just
the
amending
of
the
third
item
on
the
motion
to
amend
subsection
five
of
nrs432.358
to
require
the
committee
to
submit
to
the
governor
a
list
of
names
of
persons
qualified
for
memberships,
as
represents
representatives
of
local
and
state
law
enforcement
agencies,
with
consideration
of
the
representation
and
demographics
of
our
state.
Okay,
we
have
a
first
from
vice
chair,
a
second
from
assemblywoman
marzola,
senator
picker,
at
any
discussion.
A
Okay,
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye.
I
have
senator
picker
with
his
hand
up
motion
passes
unanimously.
Thank
you
so
much
committee
members
that
actually
completes
the
work
session
portion
of
our
agenda.
Thank
you.
Everyone
for
who
is
here
to
answer
questions
during
our
work
session.
We
can
now
move
on
to
agenda
item
number
four
for
the
next
order
of
business.
We
will
hear
from
leslie
biddleston
from
the
division
of
child
and
family
services.
A
If
you
recall,
during
our
review
of
the
advisory
committee
to
the
juvenile
justice
oversight
commission
at
the
february
meeting,
we
also
had
discussion
on
the
juvenile
justice
oversight
commission,
because
this
discussion
was
out.
This
discussion
was
outside
of
our
intended
agenda
item.
I
have
asked
miss
biddleston
to
come
back
before
the
subcommittee
to
discuss
the
jjoc
under
its
own
agenda
item.
This
will
allow
the
subcommittee
to
have
a
proper
discussion
on
the
commission
and
to
take
action
on
them
at
a
future
subcommittee
meeting.
Ms
middleton,
thank
you
for
coming
back
to
the
sunset
subcommittee.
A
G
Yes,
madam
chair,
I
am
president
here
in
carson
city
good
morning,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
leslie
biddleston,
I'm
the
chief
of
the
juvenile
justice
programs
office
within
the
division
of
child
and
family
services.
I'm
here
today
to
talk
about
the
membership
of
the
juvenile
justice
oversight
commission,
which
did
come
up
in
the
last
meeting.
As
madam
chair
mentioned,
I
do
have
a
slide
powerpoint
presentation
that
is
available.
G
So
today,
I'm
going
to
talk
about
the
requirements
of
the
juvenile
justice
oversight
commission
to
meet
two
separate
functions:
a
state
function
and
a
federal
function
on
the
agenda
slide
number
one.
The
juvenile
justice
oversight
commission
is
spelled
out
in
nrs,
62b
600.
the
membership
requirements.
G
G
The
reason
that
this
is
important
is
if
the
jj,
the
jjoc,
is
necessary
to
comply
with
both
state
and
federal
requirements
and
needs
to
be
altered
a
little
bit
to
meet
those
federal
requirements.
The
result
of
not
altering
the
jjoc
to
meet
these
federal
requirements
would
be
a
loss
in
federal
funding.
G
G
Assembly
bill
472
was
a
very
large
juvenile
justice
reform
bill
and
the
reason
that
the
juvenile
justice
oversight
commission
was
established
as
part
of
that
bill
was
to
oversee
the
implementation
of
all
of
these
reforms.
That
nevada
was
going
through
the
membership
makeup
of
this
bill
is
outlined
in
nrs62
b600.
G
It
includes
a
governor's
representative
and,
as
I
stated,
the
creation
of
this
commission
was
to
oversee
the
implementation
of
all
of
those
reforms
that
was
outlined
in
that
bill.
The
juvenile
justice
oversight
commission,
our
governor
appointed
members
through
the
boards
process,
as
many
of
the
other
boards.
G
A
long-standing
commission
called
the
juvenile
justice
commission
that
commission
was
established
to
meet
those
federal
requirements
that
I
talked
about
briefly
before
that
and
the
function
of
that
juvenile
justice
commission
was
to
meet
the
requirements
of
the
juvenile
justice
delinquency,
prevention
act
and
the
title
ii
formula
grant.
So
the
establishment
of
the
jjoc
terminated
this
other
commission,
which
is
the
reason
why
this
one
commission
needs
to
be
meet
both
state
and
federal
requirements.
G
Some
of
the
things
that
ab472
included,
which
is
part
of
the
state,
function
or
oversight
function
of
the
juvenile
justice
oversight.
Commission,
is
a
new
statewide
data
management
system
for
juvenile
justice,
information
or
case
management,
evidence-based
programs
and
services.
G
This
bill
also
established
an
evidence-based
resource
center,
a
risk
and
needs
assessment,
a
mental
health
screening
tool,
sanctions
and
incentives
for
youth
on
community
supervision,
case
planning,
judicial
determinations
for
placement,
with
the
division
of
child
and
family
services
and
quality
assurance.
So
some
of
those
are
some
of
the
very
high
level
items
that
were
also
part
of
ab472,
which
the
juvenile
justice
oversight
commission
was
responsible
for,
overseeing
and
implementing
the
state
advisory
group.
This
is
the
federal
group
that
is
required
for
that
federal
peace
that
my
office
also
overseas.
G
The
act
has
four
core
protections
sight
and
sound
separation,
jail
removal,
racial
and
ethnic
disparities
and
de-institutionalization
of
status
offenders.
The
membership
makeup
of
the
state
advisory
group
is
listed
in
28
code
of
federal
regulations
or
cfr
part
31
subpart.
A
the
purpose
of
this
state
advisory
group
is
to
provide
policy
direction
and
participation
in
presentation
of
administration
of
the
act.
The
juvenile
justice
delinquency,
prevention
act.
As
with
any
commission,
the
governor
is
responsible
for
the
appointments
of
these
members,
and
this
state
advisory
group
was
terminated
in
2017,
with
the
establishment
of
the
jjoc.
G
And
I
just
went
over
the
four
core
protections
of
the
juvenile
justice
delinquency
prevention
act,
so
we
can
skip
that
the
title
ii
formula
grant
program-
that
is
a
part
of
the
juvenile
justice
delinquency
prevention
act,
so
participating
states
are
eligible
for
federal
funds
if
they
choose
to
participate
in
this
act.
These
federal
funds
are
to
help
states,
maintain
compliance
with
the
act
and
also
to
provide
some
extra
funding
for
front-end
services,
so
the
requirements
of
the
state
advisory
group,
no
more
than
33
members.
G
We
have
to
designate
a
state
agency
responsible
for
the
work
which
in
nevada,
is
the
division
of
child
and
family
services,
and
then
we
have
to
commit
as
a
state
to
achieve
and
maintain
compliance
with
those
four
core
protections
that
I
talked
about
just
a
couple
of
minutes
ago.
G
G
Moving
on
to
the
membership
requirement
of
the
state
advisory
group,
we're
going
to
start
that
this
is
word
for
word
in
the
cfr.
Part
31
subpart
a
of
what
is
required
of
the
state
advisory
group.
It
is
a
little
different
and
laid
out
a
little
bit
differently
than
our
nrs
for
the
juvenile
justice
oversight
commission.
G
But
the
purpose
of
these
folks
being
on
the
state
advisory
group
is
really
to
bring
a
a
holistic
and
and
kind
of
a
a
big
approach
of
individuals
from
different
disciplines
and
and
parts
of
the
juvenile
justice
system
to
to
really
come
together
and
and
make
those
decisions,
so
it
can
go
through
one
by
one
because,
like
I
said
this
is
word
for
word
out
of
that
out
of
that
act,
so
it
requires
one
locally.
G
Also,
representatives
of
private
nonprofit
organizations,
especially
those
organizations
that
do
a
lot
of
juvenile
justice
research,
volunteers,
representative
of
programs
that
provide
alternatives
to
detention
and
going
on
to
the
next
page,
continuing
requirements,
programs
with
experience
addressing
school
violence,
persons
that
hold
licenses
through
the
state,
such
as
a
licensed
clinical
social
worker
or
a
mental
health
clinician,
but
those
licensed
clinicians
within
the
state
representatives
of
victims
and
in
victim
advocacy
groups,
a
member
of
an
indigenous
tribe
or
an
indian
tribe,
and
also
these
are.
These-
are
also
important.
G
These
last
three
four
bullets,
the
majority
of
which
members,
including
the
chairperson,
shall
not
be
full-time
government,
employees,
federal
state
and
local
government.
At
least
one-fifth
of
the
members
have
to
be
youth
members
under
the
age
of
28,
and
at
least
three
members
who
have
been
or
are
currently
under
the
jurisdiction
of
a
juvenile
justice
system
at
one
point
or
another.
G
So
that
is
the
makeup
of
the
state
advisory
group.
Moving
on
to
slide
number
11,
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
challenges
of
filling
the
membership
of
the
jjoc
as
it
stands
in
nevada,
revised
statute.
Today,
the
senate
and
assembly
nominated
positions
are
currently
unfilled,
with
most
remaining
unfilled
since
the
enactment
of
the
juvenile
justice
oversight
commission
and
the
three
reasons.
Why
are
noted
as
bullets?
The
nomination
process
is
unclear
from
the
senate
and
the
assembly.
G
There
are
no
clear
parameters
for
potential
appointees
and
it
is
unclear
how
to
communicate.
Membership
needs
to
those
making
the
nominations
for
these
four
positions
and
then
the
next
bullet
is
potential
for
all
partic.
There
is
potential
for
all
positions
to
be
government
employees,
except
for
new
two
non-profit
positions.
G
G
Maybe
repurpose
the
senate
and
assembly
positions
to
be
non-um.
Non-Nominated
positions
and
to
have
them
not
be
state
or
federal
or
local
government
employees.
G
There
is
also
on
the
jjoc
the
requirement
for
two
district
attorneys
and
two
public
public
defenders.
Look
at
the
requirement.
Do
we
need
two
of
each
or
is
one
of
each
satisfactory
and
then
include
the
requirement
for
additional
non-profit
members
advocates
university
members
who
are
not
considered
government
employees,
private
providers
and
parents
in
the
system,
parents
of
involved
youth
and
ensure
the
balance
is
not
the
majority
of
government
employees
currently
in
the
jjoc.
We
do
require
youth
members,
but
the
age
requirement
in
in
statute
currently
is
24.
G
Another
thing
in
recruiting
juvenile
justice
oversight,
commission
members
is
difficult,
but
it
is
something
that
I
have
worked
on
in
the
seven
years
that
I've
been
in
this
position
and
I
always
encourage
retired
practitioners
to
apply
because
they
do
not
meet
the
definition
of
a
government
employee,
but
yet
they
have
the
same
knowledge
and
term
limits
right
now
in
nrs
62b,
the
term
limits
are
two
years.
G
I
recommend
raising
the
term
limits
to
four
years.
The
reason
being
is
the
process
to
obtain
appointments
is
long
and
sometimes
can
take
many
many
months.
So
if
we
are
having
folks
reapply
every
two
years
that
causes
problems
and
puts
more
work
on
the
governor's
board's
office
and
the
federal
state
advisory
group
does
allow
four-year
terms
why
this
matters,
if
nevada,
is
a
participating
state
with
both
the
juvenile
justice
delinquency,
prevention
act
and
the
title
ii
formula
grant
funds.
We
must
adhere
to
federal
requirements.
G
If
we
do
not
adhere
to
federal
requirements,
we
would
be
considered
out
of
compliance
and
federal
funding
will
be
frozen,
withheld
or
not
available.
The
only
other
option
would
be
to
opt
out
of
these
federal
programs
and
provide
additional
state
funding
for
number
one.
We
do
fund
a
full-time,
dcfs
staff
person
out
of
the
federal
funds,
and
we
also
provide
about
300
to
350
thousand
dollars
to
community
jurisdictions
for
front-end
services,
so
those
would
be
the
loss
what
we
would
lose
if
we
did
not
have
this
federal
funding.
G
And
that
concludes
my
presentation.
I
can
take
questions.
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
being
here,
miss
middleton.
I
know
I
have
like
three
questions
and
I'd
like
to
ask
them,
while
they're
still
fresh
in
my
mind
before
I
turn
them
over
to
committee
members,
but
currently
I'm
just.
I
want
to
touch
on
that
last
one
that
you
just
touched
on,
that
we
would
need
350
to
375
000
in
state
funding
to
make
up
for
the
loss
of
federal
funds
since
we're
out
of
compliance.
G
Thank
you
for
the
question,
madam
chair
leslie
biddleston.
So
there
are
a
lot
of
parts
of
the
juvenile
justice
delinquency,
prevention
act
and
the
title
ii
formula
grant
funds
that
can
cause
non-compliance,
not
just
the
the
state
advisory
group.
For
example,
the
state
of
nevada
was
designated
as
a
high-risk
grantee
for
almost
three
years,
due
to
another
federal
grant
from
the
same
federal
department
of
justice.
So,
yes,
the
state
advisory
group
can
cause
us
to
be
out
of
compliance,
but
that's
just
one
of
many
things
that
can
be
caused
for
non-compliance.
G
Also.
To
add
to
that,
we
have
been
out
of
compliance
in
the
past
for
not
having
an
appropriate
state
advisory
group,
but
I
work
as
closely
as
I
can,
with
the
governor's
board's
office
to
try
to
fill
some
holes
with
some
community
members
and
also
reduce
the
number
of
voting
members
that
can
vote
on
the
juvenile
justice
oversight.
Commission.
A
A
G
Leslie
middleston
for
the
record:
no,
we
don't.
The
sag
in
nevada
was
the
juvenile
justice
commission.
It
was
just
what
nevada
named
the
state
advisory
group.
The
state
advisory
group
is
federal
language.
It
is
how
the
feds
refer
to
this
group
that
oversees
the
function
in
the
state.
The
juvenile
justice
commission,
was
a
long-established
commission
within
the
state
that
met
these
requirements.
G
They
and
I
don't-
I
don't-
have
the
information
on
the
reasoning
why
this
was
done,
but
once
the
jjoc
was
established
in
2017,
the
governor
at
that
time
signed
an
executive
order
to
terminate
the
jjoc
and
make
the
j.j
oc
both
responsible
for
both
the
state
piece
of
ab472
and
the
federal
piece
of
the
juvenile
justice.
Delinquencies
prevention
act
and
the
title
ii
formula.
Grant
funds.
A
G
Leslie
biddles
for
the
record.
Yes,.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
miss
middleton,
okay,
and
then
I
know
you
gave
us
throughout
your
powerpoint
there's
a
long
list
of
recommendations
that
you
think
would
help,
but
would
it
be
possible
for
you
to
put
it
in
just
send
us
over
to
document
on
the
recommendations
that
are
needed,
because
you
did
say
that
there
we
need
to
take
action
in
amending
the
jjoc
in
order
to
be
compliant
to
be
in
compliance
and
receive
those
federal
grants.
G
Leslie
biddles
from
for
the
record.
Yes,
madam
chair,
I
can
I
can
do
that
for
you,
where
I
I
struggle
is.
I
am
not.
I
don't
have
the
information
or
the
knowledge
on
why
the
membership
of
the
jjoc
was
how
it
was
so.
I
can
provide
information
on
what
would
make
us
eligible
for
federal
requirements,
but
I
don't
know
at
what
cost
or
what
way
you
to
reduce
the
the
jjoc.
So
I
can.
I
can
provide
some
recommendations.
A
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
I
just
have
just
a
couple
of
questions.
The
first
one
would
be
the
requirement
to
have
a
juvenile
who's
either
been
in
the
system
or
is
in
the
system
or
parent.
G
G
If
I
can
also
add,
we
do
have
two
adults
that
are
currently
serving
that
in
their
past
lives
were
members
of
the
juvenile
justice
system,
so
we
do
count
them
so
it
doesn't.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
a
current
juvenile.
It
could
be
an
adult
filling
another
role
who
happened
to
be
in
the
system
long
in
their
past,
so
just
the
requirement
has
to
be
that
they
served
or
that
they
were
part
of
the
juvenile
system.
So
they
went
through
the
juvenile
system.
C
Thank
you
and
the
other
question
I
have
is
what
what
type
or
is
there
a
formalized
process
of
outreach
to
to
get
members
and
and
here's
why
I
asked
because
I've
been
in
a
couple
meetings,
the
last
month
or
so
with
clergy
people,
and
that
seems
like
it's
usually
an
untapped
resource
for
a
lot
of
things
that
we
do
not
only
at
the
state
level,
but
local
levels
as
well.
So
is
there?
Is
there
a
formalized
process
for
outreach
to
say
these
are
the
these
are
the
requirements?
G
Leslie
biddleston
for
the
record.
Currently,
no
because
the
pers,
the
membership
of
the
jjoc
as
it
stands
today
is
very
prescriptive.
G
So
it
is
very,
very
prescriptive
right
now,
if
the
membership
changes-
and
it
went
back
more
to
the
juvenile
justice
commission
of
the
past-
then
yes,
there
would
be
a
more
formalized
process
to
recruit
members
because
it
is
more
open-ended
and
it
really
looks
for
those
members
of
the
community
that
you
know
we
would
want
to
be
part
of
of
our
work.
C
Yeah
and
that's
what
I'm
thinking
if
you're
talking
about
non-profits,
it
seems
to
me
that
there's
still
an
untapped
resource
there
within
faith-based
communities,
because-
and
I
can
talk
to
you
about
this
offline.
But
there
are
at
least
two
non-profits
that
I
know
that
work
directly
with
juveniles
who
are
either
in
the
system
or
some
type
of
preventive
service.
G
Thank
you,
madam
vice
chair,
that
is,
that
would
be
wonderful,
like
I
said
any.
The
reason
that
I
am
here
today
is
to
really
advocate
for
making
the
juvenile
justice
oversight
commission
more
broad,
so
we
can
have
more
members
of
the
community
and
rather
than
so
prescriptive
that
we
just
have
government
staff
who
are
very
important.
Don't
get
me
wrong,
but
you
know
sometimes
when
we
are
talking
about
serving
juveniles
in
the
community,
we
need
more
community
advocacy
and
we
need
more
community
members.
A
A
A
Thank
you,
okay
committee
members
looks
like
we
can
move
on
to
agenda
item
number
five
agenda.
Item
number
five
gives
the
subcommittee
the
opportunity
to
consider
the
councils
and
committees
listed
on
our
agenda
for
review
today.
These
four
entities
were
selected
by
us
at
our
very
first
subcommittee
meeting.
I
will
remind
the
members
and
the
public
that,
pursuant
to
statue,
an
entity
under
review
is
required
to
submit
information
about
its
members,
its
powers
and
its
duties,
its
budget
history
of
meetings
and
an
assessment
of
its
effectiveness
in
serving
the
people
of
nevada
by
statute.
A
A
It
is
my
understanding
that
there
is
someone
joining
us
from
each
council
or
committee
who
will
provide
a
brief
overview
of
these
individual,
a
brief
overview
of
their
committee.
All
documents
are
available
on
the
subcommittee's
meeting
page.
Our
first
committee
to
review
is
the
commission
on
educational
technology.
A
This
commission
has
been
previously
reviewed
by
the
sunset
subcommittee
at
the
work
session
on
june
16
2016.
The
subcommittee
recommended
terminating
and
repealing
provisions
of
nrs
related
to
the
commission.
It
further
recommended
amending
nrs
to
transfer
the
responsibilities
of
the
commission
to
the
nevada's
department
of
education
senate
bill
301
of
2017,
requested
by
the
sunset
subcommittee
proposed
to
transfer
the
duties
of
the
commission
to
nde.
A
However,
the
proposal
was
deleted
by
amendment
director
brandchem
from
the
office
of
standards
and
instructional.
Support
of
nde
is
here
to
discuss
the
commission
director
bran
kemp.
If
you
could,
please
provide
the
subcommittee
a
brief
overview
of
the
work
of
the
commission
on
education
technology.
Then
we
will
move
on
to
questions
from
the
subcommittee.
B
Yes,
madam
chair,
yes,
I
am
start
over
there
morning,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee
is
dave
brancamp,
I'm
the
director
of
our
standards,
instructional
support
office
in
the
nevada
department
of
education.
B
My
office
had
the
privilege
to
offer
support
to
this
commission
from
its
beginning,
as
you
can
see
in
the
notes.
Unfortunately,
since
about
2019,
we
have
been
void
of
members
and
have
not
had
the
meeting,
but
up
to
that
point,
the
commission
has
been
in
charge
of
making
sure
technology
was
understood
and
used
properly
in
our
schools.
Getting
that
information
out
and
then
the
oversight.
The
most
recent
piece
was
the
oversight
of
the
nevada
ready,
21
program,
which
was
a
one-to-one
program
that
started
with
our
middle
schools.
B
It
was
a
competitive
grant
that
was
brought
forth
from
the
legislation
that
the
districts
and
charter
schools
could
apply,
for.
There
were
two
different
cohorts
that
this
commission
helped
to
oversee:
getting
those
funds
out
and
the
oversight
of
them
as
those
monies
moved
forth
and
went
through.
The
commission
basically
had
met
all
the
obligations
set
forth
from
I
believe
its
inception
in
the
late
1990s.
B
The
only
other
piece
that
comes
forth
now
is
on
every
other
year
on
the
even
numbered
years
we
get
a
report
from
that
is
an
outside
entity
that
takes
a
look
at
what
are
the
needs
and
the
challenges
forth
around
education
technology
and
are
presented
so
you
have
the
most
recent
set.
We
are
in
contract
right
now
with
our
entity
to
do
that
work
for
this
current
year.
B
So
at
that
this
point,
that
is
what
the
the
commission
has
been
charged
with
and
worked
through
with
our
staff.
The
recommendation
from
the
department,
as
was
also
done
in
2016,
would
be
that
we
continue
that
work
through
the
department
and
that
the
this
can.
This
commission
be
puts
as
you
as
your
committee's
title
is
sunsetted,
so
that
we
can
continue
with
the
current
work
of
the
nevada,
digital
learning
collaborative
and
the
blue
ribbon
commission
that
the
superintendent
brought
forth
to
continue
the
work
around
digital
learning
and
bringing
that
forth.
B
As
we
all
know,
during
the
recent
pandemic,
that
work
has
been
a
huge
piece
and
so
that
that
work
has
continued
through
the
department,
and
so
that
is
our
recommendation
at
this
point,
I'm
going
to
take
any
questions,
madam
chair
or
members
of
the
committee.
A
C
Yeah
just
and
maybe
this
is
more
of
a
statement
recently,
there
was
a-
I
think.
It's
tesla
that
built
a
technology
room
at
one
of
the
schools
in
my
district.
B
So,
madam
chair
to
the
vice
chair,
dave
browncamp
for
the
record
again.
That
would
be
our
hope.
That
is
how
we
were
able
to
thanks
too
many
various
members
of
the
committee
during
the
pandemic
to
help
get
devices
out
is
to
continue
those
partnerships
with
our
community
to
obviously
expand
one
of
the
interesting
pieces
with
educational
technology.
Besides
it
always
changing,
is
it
always
needs
to
be
updated
over
time
because
they
do
wear
out,
as
we
all
know,
since
we're
all
working
with
our
computers
in
front.
A
B
A
B
Madame
chair
dave,
brancamp
again
for
the
record
it
in
the
past.
It
has
we've,
you
know,
as
any
of
the
commissions
come
forth,
it's
difficult
when
we're
grabbing
folks
that
are
in
the
classroom
and
at
this
current
point,
where
we're
very
stretched,
as
we
all
know,
in
our
classrooms,
with
teachers
and
folks
of
that
nature.
That
has
been
its
issue,
but
it's
also
at
the
same
time,
some
of
the
commission
members
are
part
of
our
community
members
and
when
they're
out
working
at
the
same
time,
those
can
be
a
challenge
to
fill.
A
Thank
you,
and
I
just
I
do
I
mean
I
do
have
one
last
question,
because
it
was
on
question
number
24
of
the
form
that
you
filled
out
and
you
state
each.
You
talked
a
little
bit
about
it
in
your
presentation,
but
your
recommendation
is
for
consolidation
or
termination
and
have
well
then
the
department
recommends
that
the
state
board
of
education
take
over
the
functions
of
this
commission.
Can
you
just
walk
me
through
how
why
you
think
this
wreck?
A
B
B
It
is
a
makeup
of
community
members,
teachers,
administrators
and
so
on
to
help
us
in
that
sense
of
how
do
we
get
out
this
digital
information
building
out
a
digital
guide
and
so
on.
So
it
became
more
like
the
department's
advisory
committee
to
this
set,
so
in
our
recommendation
would
be
to
continue
that
advisory
piece
as
well
as
we
are
very
fortunate
to
have
what
are
called.
B
We
have
found
those
to
be
extremely
successful
and
would
like
to
continue
that
work
simply
because
we
have
found
a
pattern
that
worked
well
to
for
them
to
work
after
their
hours
or
in
even
in
the
on
their
weekends,
thanks
to
their
great
volunteer,
work
and
dedication
to
that
set.
So
we
like
both
of
those
to
continue.
A
Thank
you
and
that
just
leads
me
to
just
one
other
question,
and
I
know
that
out
of
coba
the
nevada
digital
learning
collaborative
came
up.
But
why
do
you
think
it's
easier
to
have
teachers,
community
members
and
administrators
fill
those
volunteer
seats
on
the
nevada,
digital
learning
collaborative,
but
not
on
this
commission.
B
And
madam
chair
dave
brankin
for
the
record.
Most
of
that
has
come
because
we've
been
able
to
work
with
them
after
hours
after
contract
hours
or
even
on
the
weekends
with
them.
So
quite
often
that
becomes
difficult
for
when
we're
trying
to
bring
both
community
and
sets
together
and
there's
also
the
the
push
that
happened
during
covid.
B
I
think
a
lot
of
us
all
jumped
in
to
help
not
only
our
students
and
the
needs
at
that
point,
so
that
awareness
might
have
brought
the
peak
and
the
fact
that
we
were
trying
to
have
a
digital
device
in
hands
of
at
least
every
family
made
it
an
immediate
need
versus
quite
often
when
the
nevada
ready
21
program.
It
was
a
very
limited
group
at
that
point
with
our
middle
school,
so
I
believe
both
the
need
and
the
desire
to
assist
with
basically
an
emergency
that
hit
us
all.
So.
A
Okay
and
just
one
last
question,
mr
brandt,
I
promise,
but
why?
But
instead
of
cr,
instead
of
creating
the
nevada,
digital
learning
collaborative
to
fill
like
this
needed
technology,
why
didn't
you
guys
funnel
the
teachers,
volunteers,
community
members
into
the
commission
on
educational
technology
and
have
the
commission
on
educational
technology
fulfill
what
the
nevada
digital
learning
collaborative
ended
up
doing?
Why
create
a
new
entity
when
there
was
already
an
entity
that
existed.
B
B
They
came
forth
to
help
in
the
support
of
finance
and
getting
the
devices
in
play,
so
it
kind
of
almost
became
a
two
channeled
method
that
we
went
in
in
this
method
to
go
forth.
So
some
was
out
of
an
immediate
need
because
on
march
16th,
when
the
school
shut
down-
and
we
went
to
instruction-
we
needed
to
come
up
with
something
at
that
point
in
time
and
not
wait
for
the
appointments
to
come
through.
D
Hi,
I
was
wondering
when
you
have
your
meetings,
are
they
all
in
person
or
do
you
have
a
zoom
capacity
that
you
use
as
well?
Because
I'm
thinking
of
you
mentioned
it
was
difficult
to
get
people
together
to
have
meetings,
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
you
use
zoom.
B
So,
madam
chair
to
senate
length
dave
brankin
for
the
record.
Currently,
yes,
that's
how
we
survived
all
through
that
time
period
was
the
use
of
zoom
in
that
format
as
we've.
Just
all
recently
done,
we've
tried
some
hybrid
models,
but
people
are
very
now
used
to
working
through
zoom,
and
that
is
the
method
that
we
use
during
these
last
two
years.
B
I'm
chair
to
the
senator
lane
dave
brankin
again
for
the
record.
Yes,
that
has
been
successful.
It
allows
the
opportunity
for
them
to
meet
it
in
their
settings
at
different
areas,
and
that
has
proven
successful
to
this
point.
D
And
if
I
could
ask
one
more
follow-up
question,
so
I
think
one
of
the
things
you
mentioned
was
the
how
difficult
it
was
to
get
educators
because
they
teach
all
day
long
to
be
a
part
of
these
meetings.
So
if
you're
using
zoom
or
a
hybrid
model,
wouldn't
it
be
easier
to
get
them
together?
If
you
did
it
like
after
2
30
after
three
or
four,
you
have
still
have
some
work
day
left
where
you
could
do
those
meetings
and
have
the
inclusion
of
the
educators,
which
I
think
is
so
important.
B
Chair
to
centerline
dave
brown
camp
again,
yes
right
now,
the
current
set
of
when
we
work
with
our
ambassadors
is
often
from
4
to
6
or
6
30
in
the
evening.
So
we
have
moved
to
that
late
time,
simply
to
work
with
them
after
time
and
not
stress
the
system
any
further
with
trying
to
find
any
substitutes.
A
A
A
The
subcommittee
voted
to
recommend
the
committee's
continuation
and
to
send
a
letter
to
the
nevada
system
of
higher
education
to
urge
and
she
to
review
the
authority
and
operations
of
this
committee
and
to
address
the
scope
of
the
committee
as
it
pertains
to
donated
bodies
joining
us
again
is
dr
moritz
from
the
university
of
nevada,
reno
school
of
medicine,
and
she
is
on
zoom
here
with
us.
So
when
you
are
ready,
the
floor
is
yours.
E
Thank
you
good
morning,
madam
chair
and
members
of
committee.
As
mentioned,
my
name
is
julian
morris
and
I
am
an
assistant
professor,
at
the
university
of
nevada,
reno
school
of
medicine
and
the
current
chairman
of
the
committee
on
anatomical
dissection,
I'd
first
like
to
thank
the
sunset
subcommittee
for
the
invitation
to
participate
in
this
review
and
to
present
and
speak
on
behalf
of
the
committee.
E
So
I
have
been
able
to
review
or
examine
the
previous
reviews
of
this
committee
and
familiar
with
a
bit
of
the
history
of
the
committee,
and
I
really
would
just
like
to
reiterate
or
highlight
a
few
points
that
were
submitted
in
our
written
response,
in
particular
our
response
to
our
duties
in
number
15,
and
also
our
response
to
number
25
our
assessment
of
the
effectiveness
in
accomplishing
our
objectives
and
duties.
E
E
E
And,
finally,
even
if
we
were
able
to
kind
of
hold
those
individuals
for
that
period,
they
would
not
be
in
the
best
state
or
eligible
for
the
types
of
medical,
education
and
research
that
we
use
body
donors.
For
so
the
committee
acknowledges
that
there
should
be
regulation
and
oversight
of
these
unclaimed
or
unrepresented
bodies,
but
the
committee
is
really
unable
to
provide
that
oversight
at
this
time.
E
A
Thank
you,
dr
and
I'm
I'm.
I
do
have
a
couple
of
questions
for
you,
so
how
is
this
so?
Has
the
committee
ever
had
the
capacity
to
actually
fully
function
and
be
effective
and
and
have
the
facilities
that
it
needed
to
hold
these
corpses
for
30
days
and
were
you
before
properly
notified?
So
was
there
a
time
period
when
you
were
fully
able
to
execute
your?
The
intent
of
this
committee.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
jillian
moritz,
for
the
record,
to
my
knowledge.
Not
since
I
have
been
on
the
committee,
which
again
is
only
since
2018,
but
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge,
we've
never
fully
been
able
to
meet
those
duties
in
the
way
that
they're
outlined.
A
And
then
I
read
in
your
wrist,
I
don't
see
any
questions
from
online,
so
I'm
just
going
to
ask
a
couple
more,
so
I
read
dr
morgan's
in
your
form
that
you
filled
out
that
you're
not
familiar
with
another
entity
that
does
this
kind
of
work
in
our
state.
So
in
essence,
if
we
do
sunset
this
committee,
then
there
would
be
no
other
similar
entity
in
our
state.
That
would
be
able
to
that.
Does
this
a
similar
type
of
work,
correct.
E
Yes,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
jillian
mertz,
for
the
record
again,
while
there
is
no
entity
that
we're
aware
of
that
provides
those
exact
services,
I
believe
currently
and
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge,
notification
and
final
disposal
of
unclaimed
or
unrepresented
bodies
is
occurring
and
being
handled
through
either
the
coordinator's
office
or
the
emmy's
office
in
collaboration
with
the
funeral
board.
So
in
our
recommendation
we
recommended
that
these
duties
might
be
better
suited
to
the
nevada
state
board
of
funeral
and
cemetery
services.
C
Yeah,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
I
guess
the
question
I
would
have
is.
I
think
you
said
in
your
presentation
that
there
you
you
lack
the
space
to
store
the
bodies.
Did
I
hear
that
correctly
and
if,
if
that
is
the
case,
if
the
consolidation
were
to
occur
with
the
funeral
board,
would
that
be
an
option
as
well
for
the
bodies
to
stay
there
instead
of
you
trying
to
figure
out
where
you're
going
to
destroy
them,.
E
A
Okay
and
just
my
last
question,
dr
morris,
you
see
nope.
You
said
again
in
your
presentation
that
during
this
30-day
period
after
there's,
really
no
use
for
anyone
in
the
system
of
higher
education,
so
none
of
the
teaching
hospitals
or
universities
are
going
to
be
at
a
loss
for
not
having
these
bodies.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
jillian.
That
is
correct.
The
best
of
my
knowledge,
all
of
the
programs
that
are
that
I'm
involved
with
and
members
of
our
committee
are
involved
with
operate
under
the
uniform,
anatomical
gift
act
and
all
obtain
cadavers
and
donors
for
their
educational
programs
through
will
donor
programs.
So
these
are
all
individuals
who
have
signed
up
before
the
time
of
death
to
will
their
body
to
medical
science
or
research
or
education,
and
those
programs
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge,
have
what
they
need
at
this
time.
A
A
Okay
committee
members,
the
next
item
for
review
is
the
appeals
panel
for
industrial
insurance.
The
sunset
subcommittee
previously
reviewed
the
appeals
panel
for
industrial
insurance
on
march
15,
2016.
added
to
a
work
session.
The
subcommittee
recommended
continuation
of
the
panel
without
any
revisions
joining
us
on
zoom
is
mr
stosic
deputy
commissioner
of
the
division
of
insurance
of
the
department
of
business
and
industry.
Mr
stosic,
I
believe
you
are
here
on
zoom
with
us.
H
I
sure
am
thank
you
yeah
good
morning,
chair
hatagi
and
vice
chair
spearman
and
members
of
the
committee.
Again,
my
name
is
nick
stozic,
the
deputy
commissioner
of
the
nevada
division
of
insurance,
and
I'm
here
this
morning
to
discuss
the
appeals
panel
for
industrial
insurance.
This
panel
was
established
by
the
1999
nevada
legislature
under
senate
bill
417
and
you're,
also
fortunate
in
your
own
subcommittee
that
you
have
a
very
much
of
a
subject
matter:
expert
in
former
insurance,
commissioner,
terry
rankin,
serving
with
you
as
well.
H
H
as
a
part
of
this
process.
Nevada,
utilizes,
the
national
council
on
compensation,
insurance
or
ncci
is
our
rate
advisory
organization,
and
this
organization
is
involved
in
a
lot
of
things.
They
gather
compensation
data
from
around
the
country
and
in
nevada
analyze.
Industry
trends
provide
insurance
base
rates,
known
as
lost
costs
for
the
various
classification
codes
for
nevada
workers.
H
Codes
are
going
to
be
be
based
on
different
types
of
work,
exposures
and
risk
for
a
particular
type
of
job
or
trade.
So
it's
definitely
not
an
exact
science
and
and
therefore
you're
gonna
sometimes
have
disputed
rates
and
ncci
is
also
involved
in
the
dispute
resolution
process.
H
Nrs
616b
0.772
allows
an
employer
to
file
a
grievance
based
on
three
workers:
compensation
rating
factors
that
insurance
agents
and
carriers
use
in
developing
the
rates
for
each
employer.
So
they
are
the
classification
of
risk
assigned
to
the
employer's
business,
which
are
also
called
class
codes
and
there's
approximately
700
different
class
codes.
So
making
sure
you
have
the
exact
right
class
code
with
the
work
that
each
employee
is
doing
is
sometimes
somewhat
subjective.
H
So
all
those
things
go
into
workers,
compensation
rates
and
employers
if
they
feel
like
their
their
rate,
is
not
properly
being
administered,
have
the
ability
to
file
a
grievance
and
then
ultimately
appeal
if
they're
not
satisfied
with
their
grievance
process
through
ncci,
the
appeals
panel
for
industrial
insurance
was
developed
created
really
at
a
time
when
nevada
was
transitioning
from
a
state-provided
system
of
industrial
insurance.
H
That
was
known
as
sis
or
the
state
industrial
insurance
system
to
the
current
system,
where
the
majority
of
industrial
insurance
coverage
is
now
provided
by
private
employers
at
the
time
that
this
panel
was
developed.
Looking
at
legislative
testimony
back
in
1999,
there
was
an
anticipation
that
that
you'd
actually
see
thousands
of
appeals
coming
before
this
panel.
But
in
recent
years
the
average
nevada
workers
compensation
rates
have
been
on
a
mostly
declining
trajectory,
which
is
reflective
of
the
declining
costs
of
insured
losses
in
this
state
and
really
because
of
that
rate
stability.
H
In
the
last
six
years,
the
appeals
panel
is
met
twice
and
during
the
previous
six
meetings
of
the
panel,
there
were
nine
employer
appeals
that
were
heard
so
there's
never
been
a
high
volume
in
recent
years
with
this
panel.
During
that
same
time
period
in
the
period
the
last
six
meetings
there
were
26
employer
grievances
filed
and
resolved
by
the
ncci
without
a
need
for
a
panel
hearing.
H
The
appeals
panel
does
not
have
authority
to
create
regulations
and
als.
Although
there
is
a
funding
source
available
through
ncci
assessments
under
nrs,
686b
17645.
H
And
cci
informed
me
that
to
their
knowledge,
there's
never
been
an
actual
assessment
made
and
that
they
look
at
it
that
the
dispute
resolution
services
are
included
in
the
affiliate
fees
that
are
paid
by
carriers
for
the
ncci
services.
So
there
there's
never
been
a
separate
assessment
made
and
really
the
only
expenses
that
would
ever
be
utilized
by
this
panel
would
be
based
on
where
the
the
meeting
would
be
held.
H
16
states
currently
use
the
ncci
to
handle
the
administration
of
the
appeals
board
and
then
the
remaining
states
leave
the
appointment
of
the
appeals
board
and
the
administration
of
the
board
to
the
head
of
their
in
states
insurance
departments.
So
I
am
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
the
committee
members
may
have.
I
Hi,
if
I
remember
rinkin,
this
is
terry
rankin,
one
of
your
non-voting
members
that
that's
served
on
this
for
a
long
time.
I
wanted
to
give
the
committee
a
very
short
history
of
industrial
insurance,
so
you
can
pinpoint
where
this
appeals
panel,
mr
sausage,
did
an
excellent
job
of
describing
the
relationship
with
the
rate
service
organization
in
cci,
which
is
the
national
council
of
compensation
insurers.
I
But
I
thought
maybe,
if
I
gave
you
nevada's
history,
you
could
see
where
we
got
pinpointed
on
this
and
he
referred
to
the
states
that
don't
bother
to
have
one
of
these
panels
and
that
that
may
allow
you
to
make
a
decision
on
this
panel.
So
in
the
1940s
in
nevada,
article
9,
section
2
of
the
nevada
constitution,
was
codified
and
ratified
and
it
provided
for
a
state
fund
for
industrial
insurance
and
workers,
compensation
and
injuries
under
industrial
insurance
started
originally
in
wisconsin
in
about
1908
1911.
I
I
I
When
industrial
insurers,
private
carriers,
like
you
would
buy,
auto
insurance
from
a
private
carrier,
started
to
ask
for
the
right
to
be
able
to
sell
industrial
insurance
in
nevada,
and
it
took
about
20
25
years
for
that
to
actually
happen
before
it
happened,
we
got
what's
called
two-way,
so
if
you
have
the
industrial
fund,
that's
one
way.
That's
the
only
way
you
can
do.
Industrial
insurance
two-way
was
when
nevada
allowed
private
employers
to
qualify
to
self-insure
their
risk
as
industrial
insurers,
and
then
added
group
self-insurance
to
that.
I
So,
like
the
counties
joined
together
to
do
their
industrial
insurance,
the
original
employers
that
would
qualify
financially
to
do
their
own
insurance
were
large
casinos
utilities.
Other
entities
and
their
financials
were
reviewed
by
the
insurance
division
and
they
received
a
certificate
allowing
them
to
do
their
own
provision
of
industrial
insurance
workers
compensation
starting
then,
the
end
of
the
1970s.
There
was
more
and
more
pressure
to
have
private
carriers.
Private
insurers
offer
industrial
insurance,
and
I
know
this
goes
back
to
when
dinosaurs
walked
the
earth.
I
But
I
was
the
bill
drafter
that
wrote
the
three-way
industrial
insurance
act
in
1981
and
it
was
vetoed
by
two
different
governors
three
times
before
it
became
effective
in
the
early
nineteen
eighties,
and
what
three-way
does
is
it
takes?
The
constitutional
trust
fund
still
existed,
that
was
the
old
nevada
industrial
commission.
That
then
became
the
state,
the
sis,
the
state
industrial
insurance
system.
I
So
a
lot
of
you
probably
heard
of
that,
then
the
self-insurance
programs
group
and
individual
and
then
the
private
carriers
came
into
play,
and
so,
when
the
private
carriers
came
into
play,
a
rate
service
organization
was
set
up
in
chapter
616
b
of
nrs,
and
that
is
the
national
compensation
council
of
insurers
and
they
set
all
of
the
rate
provisions
that
mr
sosex
just
told
you
about.
There
are
similar
rate
service
organizations
for
things
like
auto
insurance,
homeowners,
insurance.
I
Those
are
all
in
the
insurance
code,
I'm
going
by
memory,
but
I
think
it's
in
686
b
of
nrs.
So
this
was
specific
to
industrial
insurance
and
there
was
a
great
fear
in
the
early
80s
that
employers
who
now
sought
insurance
from
private
carriers
would
have
disputes
with
those
carriers
over
how
they
were
classified
for
their
business
for
their
rates
and
their
premiums
and
rates
are
different
than
premiums
rates
are,
for.
I
The
whole
industry
premium
is
what
the
individual
employer
would
pay
and
how
how
their
businesses
would
be
reviewed
and
how
what's
called
a
rate
modification
factor
would
be
applied.
What
that
simply
is
is
just
like
your
auto
insurer
would
look
at
how
many
accidents
you
had
and
say,
you're
going
to
be
surcharged
for
this
many
years
or
that
many
years,
a
rate
modification,
I'm
simplifying
this.
A
rate
modification
factor
is
similar
for
industrial
insurance.
I
We
look
at
the
employer's
losses
or
no
losses
over
a
certain
period
of
time
and
then
allow
the
premium
to
change
so
because
there
was
a
fear
that
the
ncci
would
set
factors
and
rates
and
other
classifications
in
a
way
that
employers
would
not
either
understand
or
be
comfortable
with.
This
appeals
system
was
set
up
to
allow
the
employers
some
kind
of
flexibility
to
come
in
and
say,
hey.
I
don't
agree
with
that.
I
My
employees
are
not
electricians,
they
really
only
provide
low
voltage
security
systems,
and
so
we
shouldn't
pay
the
rates
for
an
electrician.
It
would
be
the
same
as
if
you
were
unhappy
because
your
auto
insurer
said
your
auto
was
a
mercedes
and
actually
drove
a
vw
bus,
so
you're
going
to
pay
less
for
the
vw
bus.
So
that's
why
this
board
was
created.
I
That's
also
why,
as
mr
stos
told
you,
the
number
of
appeals
has
decreased
over
time
number
one.
The
cost
of
industrial
insurance
in
nevada
is
going
down
just
safety
and
other
issues,
but
b.
The
employers
are
now
more
comfortable
with
what's
going
on
and
if
they
have
an
issue
they
go
to
the
insurer
or
they
go
to
the
ncci
and
try
to
resolve
the
issue
first
and
then,
if
they
have
any
concerns
left,
they
would
go
to
the
appeals
panel.
I
I
will
tell
you
that
the
constitutional
trust
fund
has
no
money
in
it
right
now,
once
private
carriers
came
into
business
as
insurance.
Commissioner,
I
conducted
an
audit
of
the
state
industrial
insurance
system
and
found
out
they
were
2
billion,
with
a
b
dollar
short
on
their
reserving,
and
that
was
in
the
mid
80s
late
80s
and
we
had
to
reconfigure
the
state
industrial
insurance
fund's
role
in
the
state
and
eventually
through
reinsurance
and
some
other
transfers
and
mechanisms
they
evolved
and
the
private
carrier
that
now
exists.
I
Employers,
insurance
company
took
over
most
of
their
business
at
that
point,
and-
and
there
is
some
legislative
history
on
this,
but
at
that
point
the
constitutional
trust
fund
became
empty.
There's,
there's
no
money
in
that,
it
doesn't
exist.
It
exists
in
the
constitution,
but
it
it
doesn't
exist
formally,
it
doesn't
provide
insurance.
So
the
only
things
you
have
right
now
are
individual
and
group
self-insurance
and
private
carriers.
I
So
when
you're
looking
at
this
appeals
board,
I
wanted
to
show
you
where
it
fit
in
the
big
picture
and
why
the
number
of
appeals,
although
it
was
kind
of
covered,
is
declining
over
time
and
that
will
help
you
make
your
decision
on
this
appeals
board
and
if
you
have
any
questions
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
them.
Thank
you,
madam
chairman,.
A
A
Okay,
so
I'm
just
gonna
since
my
first
question
was
answered,
I'm
just
gonna
ask
my
second
question.
I
know
that
nrs
requires
you
to
meet
as
soon
as
possible
after
july
one,
but
would
it
be
helpful
in
any
way
if
we
recommendation
is
for
continuation
that
we
modify
statute
to
just
allow
you
to
meet
at
call
of
the
chair,
mr
stevzek,
with
that
mr
sussex,
remember
rankin
anyone
can
answer
the
question.
H
Yeah
sure
how
to
get
nick
stosic
from
the
division
of
insurance
for
the
record
and
the
the
statutes
do
say
that,
but
but
realistically,
without
any
appeal
that
the
board
is
not
met,
so
I
think
to
have
the
statutes
match
the
reality
of
how
the
board
works
it.
It
would
be
logical
to
take
away
that
requirement
and
and
just
make
the
board
meet
anytime.
An
appeal
is
filed.
A
A
A
At
the
work
session
on
june
june,
25th
2012,
the
subcommittee
recommended
continuation
of
the
council
with
statutory
changes
concerning
the
relationship
of
the
advisory
council
with
fid,
specifically
assembly
bill
492
of
2013
eliminated
the
supervisory
powers
of
the
council,
so
that
it
functions
in
an
advisory
capacity
only.
In
addition,
the
subcommittee
also
recommended
retaining
the
council's
meeting
schedule
at
the
call
of
the
chair
and
the
members
salaries
sixty
dollars
for
each
day
in
attendance.
A
At
the
meeting
commissioner
o'loughlin
from
the
financial
institutions,
division
is
here
to
discuss
the
work
of
the
council,
and
we
have
her
here
present
with
us
in
las
vegas.
It's
so
nice
to
see
you,
commissioner
laughlin.
I
think
we
had
you
on
zoom
at
our
oh,
that
was
commerce
and
labor
a
couple
weeks
ago.
So
it's
nice
to
see
you
here
in
person
when
you're
ready.
Please.
J
Good
morning,
chair
hatakey
vice
chair
experiment
and
committee
members.
Well,
you
did.
You
did
the
whole
thing
you
announced.
You
read
exactly
what
I
was
going
to
say.
The
credit
union
advisory
council
was
set
up
in
1975.
J
I
was
just
a
pup
then
so
they
have
met
a
few
times.
J
The
council
used
to
have
powers
to
create
statues
or
work
on
the
statutes
that
changed
many
years
ago,
and
I
have
worked
with
the
nevada,
california,
credit
union
league.
They
would
like
this
to
remain
and
I
will
agree
with
them.
I
am
very
open
as
a
commissioner
to
all
the
credit
unions.
J
I
have
worked
with
the
majority
of
them
in
any
any
concerns
or
anything
they're
looking
to
do
or
change,
but
I
do
realize
that
I
will
not
always
be
the
commissioner,
and
so
it
would
be
important
to
continue
this
commission,
but
it's
set
up
currently
that
they
meet
once
every
six
months.
That's
that's
that's
a
lot.
I
went
back
to
the
last
meeting
that
they
had
in
2014
and
it
was
a
very
short
meeting
at
that.
J
So
it
would
be
great
if
we
could
have
it
at
the
chair's
recommendation
or
or
the
commissioner.
If
I
have
something
I
would
really
like
to
discuss,
they
have
never
that
I
could
find
in
the
minutes,
accepted
the
sixty
dollars
per
day
per
member,
so
we'd
like
to
remove
that
they're
fine
with
that
and
they
are
appointed
by
the
governor
and
they
last
for
four
years
is
their
before
they
have
to
be
reappointed.
J
No,
the
the
they
have
to
be
established,
credit
union
leaders,
the
credit
union
league
recommends,
and
I
recommend
and
then
the
governor
appoints
and
it's
a
four-year
deal.
It's
generally
speaking,
the
someone
from
the
executive
team
at
a
credit
union
or
the
president.
A
And
I
know
that
the
two
recommendations
were
just
to
again
eliminate
the
requirement
that
you
meet
once
every
six
months
and
to
eliminate
the
salary
requirement,
but
that
you
feel
that
it
is
important
for
the
advisory
committee
to
continue
yeah
right.
Okay,
what
would
happen
if
this
come?
If
this
committee
was
sunsetted,
the
advisory
council
was
sunsetted
if.
J
The
advisory
council
would
set
it.
The
the
credit
unions
would
just
call
the
commissioner
themselves
individually
and
I
think
the
originally
the
sunset
committee
or
I'm
sorry,
the
advisory
committee
was
put
together
so
that
if
the
commissioner
didn't
understand
credit
unions,
it
gave
them
a
voice.
The
credit
gave
the
credit
unions
a
voice
with
the
commissioner,
but
we
don't
operate
quite
that
way.
Everybody
has
a
voice
and
and
there's
not
as
many
as
once
upon
a
time
there
was
so
it's
easier
for
their
voices
to
be
heard.
A
And
so
I
know
you
mentioned
that
you
don't
operate
in
the
same
way
like
that.
There's
open
communication
and
you,
as
the
commissioner
understand
the
need
of
credit
unions,
but
again,
like
I
think
there
is
that
possibility.
We
don't
always
know
who
the
commissioner
is
going
to
be
and
whether
they
have
a
good
understanding
of
credit
unions
and
so
there's
no
issues
in
fulfilling
appointments.
There's
recommendations
for
the
seller
requirements
to
be
gone
meet
at
call
of
the
chair
and
okay.
A
I
know
I've
spoken
with
the
the
credit
unions
and
the
representation,
and
they
made
a
strong
push
as
well
for
why
they
feel
they
should
be
considered,
so
the
recommendations
should
be
for
their
continuation.
So
thank
you.
I
appreciate
you
being
here.
Thank
thank
you.
A
Thank
you
for
being
here,
okay
committee
members,
that
was,
we
went
through
our
four
boards
that
wrapped
up
that
agenda
item
our
last
agenda
item
agenda.
Item
number:
seven
is
public
comment,
so
I
am
going
to
follow
the
same
format
start
here
in
las
vegas
head
to
carson
city,
then
jump
to
zoom.
So
is
there
anyone
here
in
las
vegas
wishing
to
get
public
comment,
seeing
none
I'm
going
to
move
to
carson
city?
Is
there
anyone
in
carson
city
wishing
to
get
public
comment.