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A
Thank
you.
I
will
now
call
this
meeting
of
the
interim
joint
senate,
sorry
joint
judiciary
committee,
to
order
it
is
wonderful
to
have
everybody
here,
virtually
I'm
sorry
that
we
can't
be
in
person,
but
of
course,
it's
more
important
that
we
all
stay
safe
and
healthy,
and
so
I
thank
you
all
for
being
here
promptly
for
those
of
you
who
are
joining
us
online.
I
can't
see
you,
but
you
can
see
me
and
there
will
be
a
public
comment
period.
A
I'm
always
happy
to
have
people
joining
us
virtually
because
the
more
people
get
involved
now
the
better
our
work
product
will
be
at
the
end
of
this
interim
session.
So
with
that,
let's
go
ahead
and
get
started
first,
just
with
roll
call
vote.
If
we
could
have
our
secretary,
please
call
the
goal.
B
Hi
everybody-
this
is
patrick
guynham
committee
policy
analyst
and
I
will
be
calling
the
role
if
you
can
give
me
just
one
moment.
Please.
C
D
B
Assembly,
woman,
marzola
present
assemblyman
o'neill
here,
assemblywoman
summers,
armstrong
president
and
I'm
senator
harris.
I
have
been
informed
by
the
chair
that
senator
harris
will
be
arriving
shortly.
Please
take
note
of
that
or
I
will
take
note
of
that
when
she
arrives
and
that's
all.
A
All
right,
perfect,
and
so
at
this
point
I
would
like
everybody
to
just
do
a
brief
introduction
again.
I
think
most
of
us
have
met
before
in
person
who
are
on
the
zoom,
but
for
those
who
are
joining
us
virtually.
I
want
them
to
know
who
everybody
here
is,
including
our
staff
and
our
members
and
then
I'll
go
last,
but
let's
go
ahead
and
start
with
our
vice
chair.
D
Hi
this
is
vice
chair,
rochelle
nguyen.
I
represent
assembly
district
10..
I
sat
as
vice
chair
of
judiciary
during
the
81st
legislative
session,
as
well
as
the
chair
of
health
and
human
services,
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
this
interim.
I
know
we
have
a
lot
of
like
substantial
topics
that
we
are
hoping
to
be
able
to
address
over
the
next
nine
months,
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you
all.
A
Thank
you,
senator
pickard.
Would
you
like
to
go
next.
E
D
Yes,
thank
you.
My
name
is
elaine
marzola
and
I
represent
assembly
district
21..
This
is
my
first
interim
committee.
I'm
excited
to
be
here,
I'm
a
lawyer
as
well,
so
hopefully
I
can
learn
a
lot
but
give
a
little
bit
of
my
experience
to
everyone
as
well.
Thank
you,
chair.
F
F
I
did
sit
on
judiciary
during
the
81st
session
and
enjoyed
it
immensely.
I'm
not
an
attorney,
unlike
others
here,
but
I
think
my
life
experience
and
my
experience
in
the
community
will
help
me
hopefully
bring
some
interesting
perspectives
to
the
committee.
I
am
excited
about
the
work
that
we
have
ahead
of
us
and
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
get
a
lot
done.
Thank
you.
D
D
G
Good
morning,
I'm
pkmail
assembly,
district,
40,
carson
city
and
parts
of
warshow
county
soon
to
include
storytelling.
The
next
election
things
have
served
on
judiciary
during
the
special
set
or
during
the
last
session,
also
back
in
15.
I
look
forward
to
being
with
you
on
this
next
few
months
as
we
work
on
some
interesting
topics.
A
Thank
you
and
I
I
would
like
to
get
introductions
from
our
staff.
I
hope
I'm
not
putting
you
on
the
spot
if
you
weren't
expecting
to
speak
today,
but
if
you
could
just
really
briefly
tell
us
all
who
you
are
and
why
you're
here
I'll
make
patrick
go
first,
I
know
he's
done
this
before.
B
Good
morning,
everybody
thanks.
This
is
patrick
guynan,
as
the
chair
mentioned,
I
am
the
one
of
the
two
committee
policy
analysts
on
the
committee
from
the
research
division.
I
have
been
with
the
research
division
for
going
on
20
years
and
for
the
last
several
sessions
and
interims
during
the
sessions.
I
have
staffed
the
senate
judiciary
committee
and
during
the
interim
I
have
staffed
the
child
welfare
and
juvenile
justice
committee,
which
this
is
now
taken
over.
So
I'm
staffing,
both
committees,
this
interim
and
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
it.
B
H
Thank
you,
chair,
diane
thornton.
I
am
also
an
analyst
like
patrick
I'm,
the
counterpart
on
the
assembly
and
I've
been
with
the
lcb
for
about
14
years
and
last
several
I've
staffed
assembly
judiciary.
Thank
you.
I
A
We're
looking
forward
to
having
you,
mr
malone,.
E
B
D
B
D
A
Thank
you
so
much
so
I
think
that
just
leaves
me.
My
name
is
melanie
schaible.
I
am
the
senator
for
district
nine,
which
covers
spring
valley
and
the
southwest
part
of
las
vegas.
I
serve
as
the
chair
of
the
senate
judiciary
committee
in
the
2021
session,
and
I
was
on
the
committee
in
the
2019
session.
I
love
the
judiciary
committee
and
all
of
the
great
work
that
we've
been
able
to
do
over
the
last
four
years.
A
I
also
chaired
at
least
one
joint
meeting
between
the
senate
and
assembly
judiciary
committees.
So
I
have
had
the
pleasure
of
meeting
all
of
the
members
who
are
here
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
a
very
productive
but
very
busy
interim
session.
I'm
also
an
attorney
and
I've
been
in
las
vegas
for
about
the
past
six
years,
but
I'm
originally
from
northern
nevada,
so
both
hold
a
special
place
in
my
heart.
Just
to
give
you
guys
a
little
bit
of
you
know
perspective
on
how
I
expect
this
committee
to
function
this
year.
A
We
are,
in
the
you
know,
uncharted
territory,
not
so
much
with
zoom.
That
is
full
news
now,
but
with
the
new
interim
committee
structure,
there
is
no
longer
an
acha.
There
is
no
longer
a
sentencing
subcommittee.
There
is
no
longer
a
juvenile
justice
and
welfare
committee
or
study
guard,
no
more
interim
studies,
so
the
judiciary
committee
is
going
to
be
taking
over
a
lot
of
those
responsibilities,
as
you
may
have
noticed,
there
are
only
a
few
of
us.
There
are,
I
believe,
eight
members
is
that
right,
one.
A
Two,
three,
four:
five:
six,
seven
members
of
this
committee
to
cover
all
of
those
topics
you
may
have
seen.
Well,
I'm
the
work
plan
was
emailed
to
all
of
you.
There's
also
a
work
plan
available
online.
That
generally
gives
an
overview
of
the
topics
that
we'll
be
covering
at
each
meeting.
A
The
purpose
there
is
to
allow
members
and
non-members
to
allow
members
of
the
community
other
members
of
the
legislature,
other
stakeholders,
your
constituents
to
you
know
come
together,
have
conversations
about
the
topic
areas
that
we're
looking
at
in
between
the
meetings
and
then
come
to
the
meeting
with
you
know,
policy
proposals
with
updates
with
road
maps
for
the
the
discussions
that
we
need
to
be
having
here
in
the
committee
and
by
way
of
you
know
just
a
couple
of
ground
rules.
I
do
like
to
start
on
time.
A
We
started
very
close
on
time
today
and
I
really
appreciate
that
I
will
be
starting
our
meetings
at
9
00
a.m
with
or
without
you.
So
it's
not
a
big
deal
if
you're
not
on
time.
Just
know
that
you'll
be
coming
into
a
meeting.
That's
already
started,
and
we
also
here
try
to
be
very
inclusive
and
respectful.
I
know
that
you
guys
have
all
done
a
fantastic
job
of
that
over
the
last.
You
know,
two
years
since
we
started
during
the
regular
session.
A
One
way
that
we
do
that
in
the
judiciary
committee
is
that
you
can
just
call
me
chair
or
chair
shy,
bull
no
need
to
put
madam
chair
in
front
of
it.
I
won't
be
offended
if
you
do,
but
I'm
just
trying
to
move
away
from
some
of
those
gender
titles
that
we
use
and
you'll
hear
me
calling
the
members
of
the
assembly
members
of
the
assembly,
sometimes
instead
of
assembly,
women
or
assemblymen,
because
I
think
it
still
captures
the
scope
of
their
their
job.
A
So
with
that
being
said,
I
am
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
members
have
about
the
structure
of
this
committee
or
the
plan
moving
forward.
I
think,
if
you
look
at
our
our
agenda,
we
are
going
to
go
through
the
committee
and
we
do
have,
and
the
committee
work
plan
so
that
that
might
be
a
more
appropriate
time
for
those
specific
questions,
but
I
do
want
to
since
we're
not
in
in-person
setting.
I
just
wanted
to
open
it
up
real
briefly
in
case
there
are
initial
questions
from
any
members.
A
All
right,
I'm
not
seeing
any
so
that
will
take
us
officially
to
agenda
item
number
two,
which
is
public
comment.
There
are
four
ways
to
participate
in
public
comment.
The
first
one
is
by
calling
in
and
I
will
read
those
numbers
aloud
right
now.
It
is
669-900-6833.
A
Nine
850-0743-9988
four
and
then
you
have
to
press
the
pound
button
or
the
hashtag
sign
to
be
connected
to
the
meeting.
You
can
also
email
comments
to
us
at
jud,
interim
lcb.
A
775-684-6400
0
for
people
calling
into
the
meeting
to
make
public
comments.
We've
already
received
a
couple
of
written
public
comments
which
are
posted
on
the
website.
You're
welcome
to
submit
written
comments
and
call
in
or
just
do,
one
or
the
other,
but
for
those
calling
in
we
will
be
limiting
public
comment
to
three
minutes
at
this
point,
and
we
look
forward
to
hearing
from
those
of
you
who
are
already
on
the
line
broadcast.
Do
we
have
people
here
for
public
comment.
D
J
State
deputy
director,
with
the
fines
and
fees
justice
center
on
behalf
of
myself,
state
director,
lisa
mosley
and
the
ffajc
staff
we
want
to
wish
everyone.
A
productive
and
meaningful
intern,
finds
that
these
are
impacted
at
every
level
of
the
criminal
justice
system.
From
who
we
arrest
in
charge
to
how
we
handle
corrections
to
how
we
deal
with
courts
supervisions
and
beyond.
We
look
forward
to
actively
working
and
learning
with
you
all
this
interim
we're
excited
for
the
next
eight
months
and
wish
you
all
the
very
best.
J
Like
victor
w-o-I-r,
I'm
the
deputy
director
at
make
it
work
nevada
and
make
work
nevada
education
fund,
we're
also
part
of
the
nevada
housing
justice
alliance.
We
just
want
to
say
good
luck
to
the
committee.
We
deeply
appreciate
this
standing
interim
committee
to
address
many
of
the
issues
that
so
many
nevadans
are
continuing
to
face.
I
want
to
let
you
all
know
that
on
the
housing
front
of
the
work
that
we're
doing,
ab486
has
absolutely
been
helpful.
J
It
definitely
helped
curb
the
the
tsunami
of
evictions
that
we
were
expecting
at
the
end
of
the
last
moratorium.
However,
it
did
not
stop
renters,
I'm
sorry
landlords,
all
across
the
state,
from
following
the
advice
of
the
apartment
association
when
they
said
raise
the
roof
on
rent
back
in
august.
Rent
costs
have
continued
to
soar
for
every
single
person
that
we
have
talked
to
at
make
it
work,
nevada,
seniors,
non-black,
people,
black
folks,
latinx
folks,
everyone's
rent
has
gone
up
and
they
are
crying
out
for
our
legislators
to
do
something
about
it.
J
We
look
forward
to
the
committee's
work
around
studying
the
ban
of
summary
eviction
and
how
we
can
bring
greater
parity
and
justice
to
all
nevadans,
but
I
also
want
us
to
consider
a
conversation
around
creating
some
type
of
rent
stabilization
so
that
families
aren't
having
to
make
their
dollars
stretch
even
further,
as
rents
are
going
up
dramatically.
I'm
thinking
about
one
elderly
woman
in
particular,
who
is
a
retired
paralegal
who
said
her
rent,
went
up
300
and
where
is
she
supposed
to
get
it
because
she's
not
earning
any
more
money?
J
K
Yes,
we
can
okay,
my
name
is
sonia
and
I'm
a
member
of
return,
strong
families,
united
for
justice
for
the
incarcerated
on
october.
At
the
october
bopc
meeting,
dr,
not
the
acting
medical
director
at
mdoc,
informed
the
board
that
ndoc
had
vaccines
and
boosters
available
to
accommodate
inmates
requests.
Yet
our
members
report
not
being
able
to
obtain
the
vaccine
or
boosters
for
the
last
couple
of
months
with
little
to
no
explanation
as
to
why
or
when
the
vaccine
or
booster
will
be
available.
K
They
have
been
told
to
fill
out
a
kite
to
request
the
booster,
then
couldn't
get
clear
information
if
there
would
be
a
copay
required
to
get
the
vaccine,
and
then
we're
told
that
there
would
be
no
boosters
available
until
february
1st.
There
is
a
wide
variety
of
stories
coming
from
different
facilities,
but
the
thing
they
have
in
common
is
lack
of
clear
communication.
K
At
the
same
meeting,
dr
knott
stated
that
hundreds
of
thousands
of
pp
ppe
face
coverings
had
been
handed
out
to
staff
and
inmates
again,
our
incarcerated
members
continue
to
inform
us
that
the
staff
are
not
wearing
the
ppe
e-based
coverings.
As
required,
worse
than
not
wearing
them,
many
of
the
staff
who
do
not
want
to
wear
the
face
coverage
top
numbers
by
copying
at
them
copying
into
their
lunch
bags,
refusing
to
mask
when
asked
even
at
visitation.
K
While
inmates
and
families
are
required
to
wear
a
mask
and
are
told
that
their
visits
would
be
ended
at
the
max
mask
were
removed,
most
staff
is
walking
around
unmasked
or
with
their
mouths
hanging
under
their
nose.
This
is
just
coming
from
this
isn't
just
coming
from
letters
at
every
facility.
It
is
happening
tonight
in
our
faces
on
camera.
It
isn't
difficult
to
verify
yet.
No
one
holds
them
accountable.
K
The
number
of
ndoc
staff
who
have
tested
positive
for
covid
in
the
past
few
months
is
alarming,
and
yet
the
vaccine
mandate
requiring
certain
state
employees,
including
ndoc
staff,
to
be
fully
vaccinated,
has
not
been
implemented.
Staff
are
dismissive
of
the
mass
mandate
and
are
openly
defining
it
for
two
months
staffed
positive
numbers
in
the
prison
rose,
causing
staff
shortages
and
even
more
inhumane
conditions
for
incarcerated
people,
and
now
ndlc
has
said
that,
due
to
the
rising
number
of
positive
cases,
they
again
close
visitation.
K
Just
for
the
record
to
visit,
you
must
have
a
negative
rapid
test
before
entering
the
facility.
You
have
to
sit
six
feet
apart
behind
plexiglass,
you
must
be
masked
and
have
no
contact,
not
even
a
hug
or
kiss
goodbye.
No
contact
at
all.
Our
concern
that
we
would
like
to
have
a
public
discussion
about
is
about
prison
policy
when
it
comes
to
dependent
pandemic.
We
have
learned
so
much
that
has
been
applied
to
practice
in
the
free
world,
yet
we
are
not
applying
any
of
that
to
people
in
prison.
K
Despite
the
director's
claims
of
doing
such
a
great
job.
Managing
the
pendant
pandemic
nevada
received
an
f
for
the
handling
of
the
pandemic
pandemic
by
the
aclu
international.
Our
second
edition
of
the
silence
voices
of
the
incarcerated
research
by
a
researcher
at
the
university
of
london
will
be
released
in
late
march,
which
triples
the
sample
size.
K
K
Could
you
please
state
and
spell
your
first
and
last
name
for
the
record
sonia
s-o-n-y-a
last
name
is
williams
w-I-l-l-I-a-m-s.
L
Good
morning
and
happy
friday,
my
name
is
denise
colanos
d
e
n.
I
s
e
b,
o
l,
a
s,
and
I
am
an
activist
with
return
strong.
My
husband
is
incarcerated
on
a
wrongful
conviction
here
in
nevada.
He
has
been
in
the
appeals
process
for
almost
11
years
and
all
while
serving
time
for
a
crime.
He
didn't
commit.
L
One
of
the
things
that
drew
me
to
return
strong
was
their
fight
for
justice.
I
was
just
one
person
trying
to
figure
out
how
I
could
help
my
husband
or
how
I
could
contribute
to
somehow
making
things
better
for
others
in
the
same
situation
of
having
a
loved
one
incarcerated
and
all
the
hurdles
that
that
comes
with.
When
I
came
across
this
group,
I
realized
just
how
many
of
us
there
are
that
are
so
impacted
by
injustice
in
some
way
shape
or
form,
and
I
remember
when
all
this
happened
with
my
husband.
L
L
But
today
we
are
no
longer
those
people,
and
today
we
no
longer
believe
that
justice
inequality
can
happen
without
a
fight.
So
today,
I'm
here
to
ask
you
to
consider
initiating
a
conversation
about
a
sentencing
review
board,
while
nevada
offers
the
pardons
board
and
clemency.
It
does
not
come
close
to
addressing
the
changes
to
sentencing
and
the
shifts
that
have
occurred
over
the
past
few
years
to
address
the
injustices
that
have
occurred
in
sentencing
we're
all
aware
of
them.
L
Reviewing
cases
of
women
who
were
charged
as
co-defendants
in
a
crime
in
which
they
were
very
often
abused
by
the
actual
perpetrator
of
the
crime,
out
of
fear
or
under
the
influence
of
another
person,
you
know
they
drove
a
getaway
car
lured,
someone
into
a
robbery
only
for
that
to
result
in
a
murder
that
they
didn't
commit
and
didn't
have
a
choice
in
making.
Yet
they
languished
in
prison
with
life
sentences
for
thirty
plus
years,
often
longer
than
the
person
who
committed
the
murder
under
felony
murder,
one
laws
which
require
no
intent.
L
We
should
be
reviewing
the
cases
that
should
have
been
considered
retroactively
under
the
passage
of
ab236
yet
weren't
because
of
the
financial
impact
to
the
state.
Yes,
the
pardon
and
clemency
process
exists,
but
it
is
so
limited
that
it
can
never
correct
the
sentencing
issues
that
have
resulted
in
excessive
incarceration
for
decades.
So,
let's
talk
about
that,
let's
start
looking
for
solutions,
let's
be
a
leader
in
justice
and
not
the
last
date
to
do
the
right
thing
dragged
in
kicking
and
screaming.
Thank
you.
K
My
name
is
beth
rhodey,
an
activist
with
returns,
drawing
families
united
for
justices.
They
are
incarcerated
in
october
of
2021,
the
silenced
voices
of
the
incarcerated
preliminary
report
was
published,
highlighting
the
inhumane
living
conditions
of
those
incarcerated
in
nevada
department
of
corrections.
K
Many
individuals
incarcerated
within
ndoc
suffer
from
medical
neglect,
abuse
lack
of
mental
physical
stimulation
in
unsanitary
living
conditions,
which
was
only
exacerbated
by
the
pandemic.
Return.
Strong
families,
united
for
justice
for
the
incarcerated,
had
asked
ndoc
numerous
pines
to
hold
regular
meetings
to
discuss
the
issues
within
their
walls
and
work
together
with
the
loved
ones
of
the
incarcerated
towards
resolutions.
K
He
says
the
cry
of
the
poor
is
not
always
just,
but
if
you
don't
listen
to
it,
you'll
never
know
what
justice
is.
We
have
letters
from
incarcerated
people
who
share
horrific
stories
of
the
trauma
that
is
happening
behind
those
walls.
They
end
their
letters
with
the
scrawled
handwriting
that
you
would
see
on
a
car
window
of
a
person
in
danger.
Please
help
help
us.
K
M
Good
morning
my
name
is
keisha
gibbs,
I'm
an
activist
with
return,
strong,
fuji
and
part
of
an
impacted
family.
My
brother
was
incarcerated
at
a
very
young
age
for
his
participation
in
a
robbery
that
resulted
in
a
death.
While
he
wasn't
the
person
that
committed
the
murder
and
he
wasn't
given
a
death
sentence,
he
was
given
consecutive
extremely
long
sentences
as
a
teenager.
M
Sadly,
after
serving
17
years,
he
was
diagnosed
with
cancer
and
passed
away
in
prison
last
year.
His
story
and
many
others
paint
a
picture
of
the
inhumanity
that
occurs
in
nevada
when
your
loved
one
is
ill,
not
just
the
living
conditions
and
inhumanity,
but
the
neglectful
medical
care.
My
brother's
care
was
delayed
for
so
long
and
he
was
getting
sicker
by
the
day
that
he
punched
himself
in
the
face
and
gave
himself
a
bloody
nose
to
trek
medical
staff
into
taking
him
to
the
hospital
where
he
was
diagnosed
with
stage.
M
M
He
suffered
all
day
every
day,
not
just
because
of
the
cancer,
but
because
of
the
lack
of
care,
concern
or
medical
treatment.
His
story
isn't
an
isolated
incident
sonia,
who
is
here
today
too,
had
a
very
similar
experience.
Both
of
us
were
denied
visitation
with
our
loved
ones
and
never
got
to
say
goodbye
to
them.
M
Sonya's
six-year-old
daughter,
sonia
excuse
me
and
her
six-year-old
daughter
were
kicked
out
of
a
visit,
because
the
little
girl
ran
to
her
father
and
hugged
him
when
they
brought
him
out
in
the
wheelchair
they
threw
them
out
of
they
threw
them
out
of
the
visit,
suspended
visits
for
six
months
and
gave
him
a
write-up.
He
died
a
few
days
before
christmas
and
that
child
never
got
to
see
her
father
again.
She
hadn't
seen
him
since
before
coven.
M
The
thing
is,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
this
way
and
sonia
and
I
and
returned
strong
have
vowed
to
not
let
their
deaths
be
in
vain.
We
will
use
their
stories
and
others
to
make
sure
that
no
one
can
hide
from
the
truth
of
the
humane
depravity
that
is
occurring
through
ndoc
families.
From
return
strong
have
been
working
on
revisions
to
a
national
prison
bill,
prison
family
bill
of
rights
that
would
make
basic
human
rights
and
communication
possible
for
nevada,
prison
families
and
their
incarcerated
loved
ones.
M
We
would
like
space
to
present
our
prison
family
bill
of
rights
that
we
are
planning
to
bring
to
the
legislative
session
and
hope
to
roll
it
out
here.
This
isn't
a
a
participation
issue.
This
is
about
family
and
community
and
the
ethical
treatment
of
human
beings,
both
incarcerated
and
free.
Thank
you.
N
Good
morning
my
name
is
jody
hawking
h-o-c-k-I-n-g,
I'm
the
founder
and
director
of
return,
strong
fuji
and
we're
really
excited
actually
about
the
interim
judiciary
committee
meetings
and
hopeful
that
we'll
be
able
to
have
space
to
talk
about
some
of
the
issues
that
we're
bringing
to
the
table
today.
I
know
that
there's
so
many
things
that
could
be
discussed
and
time
is
so
limited.
N
Today,
I
want
to
touch
on
something.
That's
been
a
constant
frustration
for
us
and
I
honestly
don't
know
if
this
is
the
place
or
if
there
is
an
answer.
But
ultimately
our
question
is
this:
how
do
we
hold
government
accountable
specifically
for
us
ndoc,
but
generally
speaking
too,
during
the
81st
session,
we
all
worked
unani
to
get
a
bill
passed
unanimously,
ab241,
which
provides
credits
to
offenders
for
the
time
that
they
were
losing
during
the
pandemic,
not
due
to
anything
within
their
control.
The
bill
was
supposed
to
give
credits
to
people
retroactively
and
proactively.
N
If
programming
didn't
resume,
mdlc
was
was
taking
each
of
those
days.
You
guys
were
all
there
during
this
discussion
five
days
a
month
away
from
people
because
they
couldn't
program
again,
not
their
own
fault,
since
the
bill
was
passed,
ndoc
applied
credits,
but
not
according
to
the
legislative
intent
of
that
bill.
There
were
multiple
types
of
credits
days,
which
is
how
they
took
them
and
meritorious
credits
which
are
the
equivalent
of
approximately
31
percent
of
the
day,
which
is
how
they
gave
them
back
to
incarcerated
people.
N
In
addition,
they
have
interfered
in
due
process
by
blocking
grievances
on
the
issue,
so
the
incarcerated
people
can't
get
the
issue
into
the
courts
due
to
the
prison
reform
act.
Even
crazier
is
the
fact
that,
during
the
legislative
session
ndoc
and
the
governor
both
acknowledged
that
they
could
fix
this
without
legislation,
the
director
has
the
authority
to
give
seven
days
a
month,
not
five
without
any
anyone's
approval,
but
he
doesn't
do
that
voluntarily.
N
They
block
it
from
the
court
court
and
literally
we
can't
get
it
corrected
and,
as
a
result,
people
are
spending
more
time
in
prison
than
they
ever
should
have.
We
can't
find
help
ever
anywhere
I've
emailed
everyone
about
this
issue
back
in
july
and
august,
and
while
a
few
people
were
concerned,
nobody
has
answers.
It
baffles
me
that
a
law
that
was
passed
has
no
means
of
enforcement
if
the
law
breakers
of
state
agency
or
the
director
of
that
agency.
N
Well,
I
understand
our
question
of
who
holds
them
accountable
if
the
governor
won't
isn't
really
a
purpose
of
this
committee,
the
answer
remains:
who
does
hold
them
accountable
if
the
courts
can't
if
legislators
hands,
are
tied?
How
is
it
possible
that
this
can
happen
when
everything
just
goes
unaddressed?
N
I
want
to
throw
out
one
more
howard,
thin
quote
for
today,
and
it's
that
the
memory
of
oppressed
people
is
one
thing
that
cannot
be
taken
away
and
for
such
people
with
such
memories.
Sorry,
revolt
is
always
an
inch
below
the
surface,
not
just
because
of
ab21
241
or
the
deductions
or
sentencing
or
medical
neglect
or
compassionate
release
or
deny
due
process
or
trauma
that
has
been
impacted
by
incarcerated
people
through
the
mishandling
of
the
pandemic.
N
C
C
C
Over
the
past
year
and
a
half,
we
have
talked
to
hundreds
of
incarcerated
people
who
have
applied
for
the
parting
board.
Many
of
them
who
have
applied
multiple
times
year
after
year
after
year,
who
were
not
denied
a
board
but
never
to
have
ever
been
given
an
opportunity
to
be
added
to
the
agenda
or
have
their
case
heard
and
to
never
even
get
a
response
as
to
why
they
did
not
get
chosen.
We
understand
the
sheer
volume
of
applications
that
are
put
before
the
board.
C
We
have
observed
and
studied
every
single,
pardons
board
for
the
past
year
and
a
half
to
gain
an
understanding
of
what
is
involved
and
how
it
works.
We
have
studied
all
the
eligibility
rules
and
looked
for
the
inherent
bias
that
exists
in
the
party's
board
process
and
ultimately
have
found
so
many
broken
pieces
that
we
believe
there
needs
to
be
a
public
conversation
and
a
full
study
on
the
party's
board
process.
C
The
pardons
process
is
supposed
to
give
people
a
second
chance,
but
at
the
moment
it
is
so
wrought
with
the
same
inequity
that
exists
in
the
criminal
justice
system
that
second
chances
never
come
for
many
worthy
candidates.
Certain
attorneys
are
guaranteeing
people
seats
on
the
agenda
two
years
in
advance.
Families
are
expected
to
pay
between
fifteen
thousand
and
fifty
thousand
for
an
attorney
to
represent
them
at
the
board.
At
the
last
board,
one
attorney
said
their
fee
at
fifty
thousand.
Had
five
people
on
the
agenda.
That's
ludicrous.
C
How
is
that
even
possible
that
same
attorney
is
promising
people
on
the
agenda?
How
is
it,
how
is
that
even
possible
again
that
same
attorney
promising
seats
months
years
before
the
agenda
is
decided?
How
is
that
possible?
Yet
when
we
have
approached
people
to
get
a
sponsor,
we
were
told
that
we
can't
circumvent
the
process.
C
Our
question
is:
what
process
money
power
privilege
the
entire
process
breaks
of
secrecy,
privilege
racism
and
injustice,
a
process
that
is
supposed
to
equalize
injustices
and
give
true.
Second
chances
does
anything,
but
we
are
asking
to
open
that
discussion
and
to
consider
making
this
a
study
during
session.
We
need
a
full
50
state
study
on
the
parting
process
and
to
build
towards
a
just
process
in
nevada.
Let's
start
this
discussion
here.
After
all,
we
are
nevada,
strong
and
battle
born.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
D
A
All
right,
thank
you
so
much
before
we
move
on
to
our
next
agenda
item.
I
just
want
to
take
a
moment
to
to
seize
on
on
this
momentum,
to
talk
about
kind
of
my
vision
for
the
interim
judiciary
committee
this
year,
because
return
strong
has
knocked
out
of
the
park
with
public
comment,
and
I
don't
know
about
you
guys,
but
I
heard
a
lot
of
really
important
topics
in
there.
A
lot
of
really
good
ideas.
A
I
just
made
you
know
a
quick
list
of
reviewing
the
pardons
board
process,
the
prison
response
to
covet
19
of
creating
a
sentencing,
review
board
and
creating
a
prison
family
bill
of
rights,
and,
as
I
think
you
all
can
appreciate,
that's
just
more
work
than
one
person
can
do
and
also
more
work
than
this
committee
can
do
on
zoom
for
a
couple
of
hours
on
a
friday
morning.
A
So
what
I'm
hoping
is
that
you
know
for
this
you'll
notice
in
our
work
plan
that
we
have
a
meeting
coming
up
in
march,
where
we're
going
to
talk
about
corrections
specifically,
and
so
what
I'm
hoping
and
we'll
get
to
this
in
item
number.
Four.
For
a
number
of
different
topics,
but
is
that
you
know
one?
A
Member
of
this
committee
will
really
take
the
lead
on
the
corrections
issues
and
between
now,
and
that
march
meeting
have
some
of
those
conversations
with
members
of
return
strong
with
members
of
the
department
of
corrections
with
other
stakeholders
with
me
with
other
members
of
the
legislature,
so
that
by
the
time
we
get
to
march,
we
are
so
much
further
along
in
this
conversation
that
we're
not
just
talking
about
a
sentencing
review
board.
But
we've
come
up
with
a
proposal.
A
We've
looked
at
different
states,
we've
considered
different
approaches
to
a
piece
of
legislation
and
done
some
of
the
work
that
just
can't
be
done
in
in
small
segments
once
a
month,
but
has
to
be
done
over
a
period
of
time,
and
I
hope
that
it's
clear
that
the
purpose
in
doing
this
is
to
create
more
participation,
not
less.
It's
not
supposed
to
be
some
kind
of
threshold
to
overcome
to
get
onto
the
march
agenda
meeting,
but
to
serve
as
a
way
for
this.
A
A
You
know
appointed
as
points
of
contact
or
point
people
on
different
topics,
corrections
being
one
of
them
we'll
get
to
the
rest
of
them
in
on
agenda
item
number
four,
but
I
really
think
that
it
could
be
a
productive
way
for
all
of
us
to
get
involved
and
for
all
of
us
to
engage
our
constituents
and
other
stakeholders
so
that
at
every
single
meeting
from
here
on
forward,
we
come
to
the
table
with
as
much
information
as
possible
and
ideas
that
are,
you
know,
as
fully
developed
as
possible
with
the
opportunity
to
continue
those
discussions,
and
I
hope
that
that
that
makes
some
sense
and
resonates
with
some
of
you
and
with
that
we're
gonna
move
on
to
a
greater
review
of
our
our
committee's
responsibilities.
A
I'm
gonna
move
on
to
agenda
item
number
three
and
ask
our
fantastic
staff
to
give
an
overview
of
the
committee
brief
and
our
duties.
B
Hey
thanks
cherish.
I
believe
this
is
patrick
guinon
and
diane
thornton,
and
I
are
going
to
split
this
portion
of
the
discussion
up,
given
that
everybody
on
the
committee
has
served
on
judiciary
and
or
been
in
the
legislature
for
a
while
and
is
familiar
with
committee,
briefs
we're
not
going
to
do
a
real,
deep
dive
into
the
brief,
but
there
are
a
few
points
that
we
do
want
to
to
make
and
to
you
know,
obviously
we'll
be
happy
to
answer
questions
now
or
later
on.
B
If
anybody
has
any
so
I'm
just
going
to
try
to
go
through
this
fairly
quickly
and
then
I'll
turn
it
over
to
diane.
The
first
thing
for
us
to
note
is
a
reiteration
of
the
fact
that
we
are
non-partisan
staff.
We
work
for
the
entire
committee
and
we
are
here
to
help
with
all
the
committee
needs
for
each
member,
and
we
also
do
our
work
entirely
confidentially.
So
you
can
have
complete
confidence
that
the
work
that
we
do
for
you
isn't
going
anywhere,
but
to
us.
B
As
the
committee
will
remember,
ab-443
of
the
last
session
revised
the
interim
structure
and
essentially
combined
the
two
judiciary
committees
into
one
smaller
interim
committee
and
sort
of
covers
the
jurisdictions
of
both
those
committees
from
session
which
were
slightly
different,
depending
on
which
house
you
were
in.
We
won't
go
over
the
jurisdiction
of
the
committee
right
now.
It's
vast.
We
can
provide
you
with
documentation
on
what
chapters
the
community
covers,
but
the
brief
covers
a
little
bit
more
than
I
will
right
now.
B
One
thing
that
I
do
want
to
note,
which
the
chair
already
mentioned
and
which
is
going
to
going
to
be
a
big
part
of
our
workload,
is
that
the
ach
is
no
longer
in
existence,
and
so
a
lot
of
those
responsibilities
have
come
over
to
this
committee.
A
couple
of
them
will
touch
on
later
today
and
a
couple
of
them
won't,
but
that's
a
that's
a
big
portion
of
our
work,
as
is
the
elimination
of
the
child,
welfare
and
juvenile
justice
committee.
B
I
think
the
members
probably
are
aware,
but
the
public
might
not
be
that
our
committee,
the
judiciary
committee,
is
now
in
charge
of
the
juvenile
justice
portion
of
the
of
that
prior
committee
and
the
health
and
human
services
committee
is
now
in
charge
of
the
child
welfare
portion.
So
there
may
be
crossover
between
the
committees.
At
some
point
we
may
have
a
joint
meeting.
I
don't
know
that's
up
to
the
chairs,
but
those
two
issues
have
been
separated.
B
So
if
you're,
a
child
welfare
advocate
or
interested
party
in
any
way,
you
may
want
to
just
keep
an
eye
on
what
health
and
human
services
is
doing
as
well.
This
committee
has
eight
meetings
scheduled
through
the
interim.
They
are
on
the
second
friday
of
every
month
from
now
until
august,
at
which
point
we'll
be
holding
our
work
session.
B
So
I
would
just
know
from
a
staff
perspective
that,
while
the
while
our
work
plan
does
show,
you
know
we're
going
to
focus
on
x,
subject
on
x
date
that
august
work
session,
as
the
committee
members
are
aware,
will
be
the
point
at
which
we
are
actually
going
through
requests
and
plans
from
the
committee
members
and
and
stakeholders
and
approving
bdr.
So
while
you
may
have
a
presentation
that
comes
up
in
march,
that
doesn't
mean
that
you
have
to
have
your
your
idea
fully
formed
and
your
bdr
ready
to
go
in
march.
B
It
means
that
you've
provided
the
information
and
started
the
discussion
and
and
we
will
continue
to
work
on
those
issues
all
the
way
until
august.
So
I
don't
want
anybody
to
feel
like
you've
got
to
do
all
your
interim
work
in
a
month
or
two.
So
next,
I
would
just
note
that
we
have
15
bdrs
for
the
committee,
five
of
which
are
dedicated
to
juvenile
justice
subjects.
B
H
Thanks,
patrick
again,
diane
thornton
for
the
record,
so
starting
on
page
three,
like
patrick,
said,
there's
a
list
of
relevant
reports.
This
includes
everything
from
legislative
committees,
nevada,
judiciary,
executive
branch
agency
and
also
the
research
and
fiscal.
I
mean
audit
divisions.
H
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
bring
light
a
couple
reports,
ones
that
were
supposed
to
go
to
the
now
defunct
juvenile
justice
and
child
welfare
committee,
acha
and
also
industrial
programs,
which
now
our
committee
is
responsible
for
so
just
highlight.
H
On
page
six
you'll
see,
there's
several
bills
from
last
session
that
required
reports
from
the
division
of
child
and
family
services,
and
those
all
have
due
dates
this
year
and
so
we'll
be
reviewing
those
reports.
H
Then,
on
page,
eight
of
the
brief
you'll
see
that
at
the
top
of
the
page
there's
a
report
due
from
the
fun
for
new
construction
of
facilities
for
prison
industries,
and
they
must
submit
before
expending
any
funds,
a
proposal
for
of
expenditures
to
this
committee
and
then
on
the
next
page.
On
page
nine,
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
a
couple
of
reports
that
are
due
from
the
nevada
department
of
corrections.
H
On
ab241,
which
you
heard
in
during
public
comment
about
the
credits
due
to
prisoners,
another
one
is
supposed
to
be
submitted
to
the
committee
on
child
welfare
and
juvenile
justice,
and
that
was
relating
to
juvenile
detention
and
trends
and
other
information
and
the
other
one
is
related
to
housing
of
youthful
offenders
and
then,
in
the
last
pages
of
your
brief
you'll,
just
find
some
contact
information
for
some
of
the
agency
contacts
that
you'll
be
hearing
from
during
this
interim.
A
Thank
you
so
much.
I
I
think
that
gives
us
a
good
overview
and
also
an
appreciation
for
the
breadth
of
this
committee
and
how
much
we
have
to
cover.
So
unless
there
are
questions
on
that
point,
I
think
we
can
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
agenda
item
number
four,
which
is
our
predecessor
to
the
the
fun
part,
which
is
number
agenda.
Item
number
five.
A
We
all
get
your
assignments,
so
on
generator
number
four,
I'm
going
to
let
the
staff
give
a
brief
overview
of
some
of
the
topics
that
we
came
up
with
you
guys
came
up
with.
Some
of
them
are
directly
from
members
of
this
committee,
they're,
not
exhaustive,
but
I
just
thought
that
this
kind
of
covers,
like
five
or
so
areas
that
we
definitely
have
to
discuss
this
interim
and
then
we'll
move
on
to
expand
it
to
anything
and
everything
and
figure
out
how
we're
going
to
get
it
all
done.
A
So,
mr
guy
and
miss
thornton.
If
you
would
go
ahead
and
start
that
review,
please.
B
Thanks
again
cherysheville
patrick
geinin,
for
the
record
so
yeah
we
broke
this
up
into
into
specific
areas
of
priority
and
again
diane
and
I'll
share.
Talking
about
some
of
these
some
of
these
topics
and
in
large
part
I
mean,
if
corrections
is
a
great
example.
You've
heard
already
this
morning
from
several
speakers
about
issues
that
need
to
be
addressed
in
corrections,
and
so
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
just
add
a
couple
more
issues
to
that,
beginning
with
corrections,
and
these
are
primarily
in
response
to
bills
that
were
passed
last
session.
B
We
have
senate
bill
22,
which
was
changes
made
to
inmate
charges
and
accounts,
based
on
how
the
department
of
corrections
had
dealt
with
marcy's
law
expenses,
and
so
that
was
a
long
discussion
last
session
and
it
ultimately
got
worked
out
with
some
new
formulas
for
accounts
and
charges.
But
that's
something
that
the
committee
will
probably
want
to
review.
B
We
have
an
sentencing
commission
report
on
reinvestment
savings.
That's
going
to
be
coming,
that's
required
from
8236
for
2019,
and
I
know
that
the
sentencing
commission
has
already
reached
out
to
the
committee
and
is
eager
to
work
with
us.
So
I
imagine
we'll
be
hearing
from
them
shortly.
B
Ab241
sentence
credits
during
emergencies,
we've
covered
at
length
today,
so
I
won't
go
farther
into
that.
Ab443
is
the
committee
on
industrial
programs
that
diane
mentioned,
which
is
now
our
oversight,
responsibility
and
our
fiscal
staff
will
be
helping
us
make
sure
that
we
address
that
committee
appropriately
and
and
don't
hinder
their
work
in
terms
of
their
requests
for
funding
or
improvements
on
projects,
and
that's
it
for
corrections
right
now
short
list.
B
But
I
think
you
can
all
see
that
that
list
is
going
to
grow
and
then
the
other
subject
that
I'm
most
familiar
with
is
juvenile
justice.
So
I'm
going
to
run
through
a
few
of
those,
some
of
them
diane's
already
mentioned,
we
have
ab132,
which
required
a
new
miranda
warning
for
juveniles
and
custodial
interrogations.
So
the
committee
may
want
to
look
into
how
that's
working
out.
We
have
8158
which
reduced
penalties
for
minor
drug
and
alcohol
infractions,
so
we
will
want
to
look
into
that.
B
I
imagine
av
ab251,
which
deals
with
ceiling
of
records
for
juveniles,
and
there
may
be
some
issues
to
look
into
there
for
persons
who
are
between
the
ages
of
18
and
21,
and
how
that
process
is
working
out
and
whether
it
needs
to
be
reviewed
and
or
amended,
and
then
we
have
ab443,
which
is
requiring
dhhs
to
report
on
the
program
for
juvenile
sex
offenders
by
the
end
of
this
month.
So
we'll
want
to
be
taking
a
look
at
that
senate
bill.
B
108
requires
implicit
bias,
training
for
juvenile
justice
employees
and
we'll
be
looking
into
that
one
as
well,
and
then
we
have
several
reports
and
studies
that
were
assigned
outside
of
the
legislature
for
other
entities.
Do
sb
356
requires
the
juvenile
justice
oversight
commission
to
report
on
housing,
alternatives
for
youthful
offenders
that
grows
out
of
some
child
welfare
and
juvenile
justice
work
from
the
previous
interim.
B
Looking
at
the
way,
our
system
handles
young
offenders
between
the
ages
of
18
and
25
senate
bill
357
requires
the
department
of
corrections
to
report
on
how
much
of
the
budget
that
love,
lock
and
doc
generally
is
allocated
to
youth,
who
have
been
tried
as
adults
and
who
are
housed
at
lovelock.
That
was
never
previously
broken
out,
so
we'll
be
getting
that
information,
and
then
we
have
another
report
from
dcfs
on
the
effectiveness
of.
B
Excuse
me:
the
effectiveness
of
front-end
diversionary
programs
for
youth,
and,
if
that,
I
believe,
that's
primarily
focused
on
whether
funds
are
being
spent
in
an
effective
way
on
front-end
diversion
programs
and
then
finally,
I'll
just
note
that
we
have
the
juvenile
justice
oversight.
Commission
is
also
going
to
give
us
their
five-year
plan,
update
that
that
normally
would
have
been
reported
to
the
child,
welfare
and
juvenile
justice
commission
in
the
past
first
committee
in
the
past.
So
that's
it
for
for
juvenile
justice
issues.
B
B
This
is
kind
of
a
long
succession
of
events,
but
senate
bill
161
from
last
session
sent
did
away
with
the
advisory
committee
to
study
laws
concerning
sex
offenders,
which
was
housed
in
the
attorney
general's
office
and
sent
those
responsibilities
to
the
acaj,
and
then
we
did
away
with
the
ach.
H
Thanks,
patrick
diane
thornton
again
so
with
reports
of
human
trafficking
on
the
rise
and
nevada
not
be
new
legislature
has
passed
over
the
south
last
several
years
and
myriad
of
bills
to
address
this
topic,
and
so
last
session
we
passed
assembly
bill
143,
which
provided
a
continuum
of
care
and
services
for
all
victims
of
trafficking
and
also
requires
the
division
of
child
and
family
services
to
develop
a
statewide
plan
for
the
delivery
of
those
services,
and
then
the
bill
also
goes
on
to
create
the
state
of
nevada.
H
H
The
next
one
also
is
we
expanded
law
enforcement's
ability
to
prosecute
these
crimes,
as
well
with
the
passage
of
assembly
bill
64,
which
grants
concurrent
jurisdiction
to
the
attorney
general
to
prosecute
a
person
for
facilitating
sex
trafficking,
engaging
in
prostitution
or
soliciting
for
prostitution
and
then
in
a
better
effort
to
distinguish
between
those
who
illegally
solicit
prostitution
and
those
who
may
be
victims
of
self-trafficking
senate
bill.
164
revises
nevada
law
by
separating
provisions
relating
to
the
prohibition
against
prostitution
from
those
concerning
the
solicitation
for
prostitution.
H
So
there
was
a
lot
of
talk
about
summary
eviction
in
that
process
last
session
and
just
as
kind
of
a
little
background,
there's
two
ways
to
initiate
an
eviction
action
in
the
state
of
nevada.
The
first
is
filing
and
serving
a
formal
civil
addiction
known
as
an
unlawful
detainer,
and
then
the
second
is
using
the
summary
eviction
procedures,
which
of
course,
the
summary
eviction
procedures
is
generally
a
simpler
and
quicker
process
than
the
unlawful
detainer.
H
H
So
we
did
pass
assembly
141,
which
required
the
courts
to
automatically
seal
records
relating
to
summary
evictions
during
the
pandemic
and
then
another
bill
that
failed.
The
deadline
would
have
studied
this
topic
and
that
bill
just
to
give
you
some
ideas
of
what
the
committee
might
consider
under
summary
evictions
that
bill
would
have
looked
at
the
laws
and
rules
of
other
states
relating
to
evictions
is
going
to
look
at
any
requirements
relating
to
the
serving
notice
of
actions
for
evictions.
H
Any
oversight
provided
by
the
courts,
the
circumstances
which
trigger
any
action
for
eviction,
including
those
actions
relating
to
no
fault
evictions,
the
ability
of
tenants
and
landlords
to
initiate
and
defend
actions
for
summary
eviction
and
the
deadlines
mandated
by
the
actions
for
summary
evictions.
So
those
are
just
some
of
the
issues
that
the
committee
may
wish
to
examine
on
that
topic.
H
The
next
topic
I'm
going
to
talk
about
is
sexual
assault,
so
the
last
session
assembly
bill
214
was
passed
and
that
required
the
advisory
commission
on
the
administration
of
justice
to
appoint
a
subcommittee
to
conduct
an
interim
study
of
laws
governing
sexual
assault.
So
by
default
that
is
now
under
our
jurisdiction,
and
that
committee
was
to
study
the
laws
governing
sexual
assault
in
the
state
and
also
the
laws
in
other
states
and
territories
of
the
united
states.
H
Then
the
last
one
is
the
implement
implementation
of
previous
legislation,
and
this
just
looks
at
things
where
that
were
passed
in
the
previous
legis
previous
legislative
sessions
and
that
we
may
want
to
review
and
amend
the
first.
One
is
ab236,
which
you
all
might
remember
from
the
2019
session,
and
this,
of
course
did
a
significant
step
forward
in
our
criminal
justice
reform
and,
of
course,
with
such
a
large
massive
bill.
There's
always
refinements
and
last
session.
H
The
legislature
passed
assembly
bill
393,
which
fine-tuned
ab-236
and
those
revisions
included,
changes
related
to
pre-sentence
investigation
reports,
parole
and
probation
vehicle
embezzlement,
cannabis
and
sex
offenders
petitioning
for
release
from
lifetime
supervision.
In
addition,
the
bill
requires
the
nevada
sentencing
commission
to
calculate
with
assistance
of
the
department
of
sentencing
policy.
H
H
Essentially,
this
just
means
that
breaking
a
minor
traffic
nevada
is
no
longer
a
criminal
offense.
H
So
the
committee
will
have
the
opportunity
to
get
updates
on
the
implementation
of
this
law
and
any
other
matters.
Thank
you
chair.
That's
the
last
topic.
A
All
right,
so
certainly
just
you
know
a
few
things
for
us
to
do
this
interim,
absolutely
doable
by
one
or
two
people.
I
hope
the
record
will
reflect
that.
That
was
well-intentioned
sarcasm
because
we
just
have
a
huge,
a
huge
workload
for
this
committee,
but
I
know
that
we
are
up
to
the
task
and
I
people
have
already
been
reaching
out
to
me
about
projects
they
would
like
to
work
on.
So
I
would
like
to
open
the
floor
up
for
the
members
to
start.
A
D
If
I
can
start
chair
shy,
bolt,
that's
okay,
I
was
taking
a
look
at
it.
I
don't
have
a.
I
would
love
to
take
kind
of
the
lead
on
arranging
and
looking
at
some
of
the
stuff
on
may
13th,
which
is
you
know
generally
scheduled
for
that
day,
which
includes
like
the
courts,
the
sentencing,
commission
and
bail
and
pre-trial
release.
D
I
might,
if
at
all
possible,
try
to
put
some
other
stuff
about
follow-up.
I
think
with
236,
which
I
think
kind
of
goes
in
line
with
the
sentencing
commission
and
some
of
the
work
that
they
are
doing
there,
as
well
as
looking
at
some
of
the
implementation
problems
or
issues
or
concerns
with
116
ab116.
D
I
don't
know
if
that
is.
I
also
have
an
interest
in
the
gaming
in
general
updates
and
some
gaming
topics
in
there.
That,
I
think,
would
be
useful
for
our
committee,
and
I
know
that
we
have
talked,
and
you
had
a
wonderful
idea
that
if
members
are
taking
the
lead
on
these,
if
you
think
about
presenting
them
in
terms
of
the
way
you
would
present
like
a
pseudo
bdr
like
during
a
normal
committee
hearing,
I
think
that
would
be
really
helpful.
D
So
when
we
get
to
our
august
work
session
meeting,
we
have
a
better
idea
of
what
those
bills
would
actually
look
like.
So
I
know
that
we
got
a
lot
of
great
ideas
in
public
comment,
and
so
I
think
that
gives
all
the
members
on
here
that
are
going
to
be
delegated
some
work,
some
ideas
and
some
people
to
reach
out
with
to
start
that
process
of
what
those
bdrs
might
actually
look
like.
D
So
I
appreciate
your
you
know
you
working
through
and
talking
those
ideas
with
me,
and
I
would
encourage
the
other
members
to
do
that.
So
don't
everyone
all
raise
their
hand
all
at
once,
but
I
know
that
me
and
chair
schreibel
will
call
on
you
because
we
know
people
that
are
like
destined
to
take
on
some
of
these
bigger
topics
so
I'll
pass
that
on.
A
F
Thank
you,
chair
scheibel.
I
would
be
most
interested
in
working
on
the
summary
eviction
topic
that
is
going
to
be
on
the
june
10th
agenda.
I
might
hopefully
not
biting
off
more
than
I
can
chew,
since
I'm
a
newbie,
but
this
is
really
important
in
my
community
and
would
I
appreciate
help
from
anyone
who
would
be
interested
in
in
helping
on
that,
and
I
would
like
to
back
up
whoever
is
going
to
be
on
some
of
the
department
of
corrections
issues.
F
F
You
know
I
can
take
on
a
few,
not
too
many,
but
you
know
a
couple
of
things.
I'd
like
to
help
out
where
I
can
so.
Thank
you
very
much.
Man.
A
Thank
you.
I
think
it
would
be
great
assemblymember
if
you
would
kind
of
take
the
lead
on
the
summary
eviction
process
and
bring
as
many
people
into
the
conversation
as
you
can,
and
I
I
saw
somebody
remember
marzola
raised
her
hand
around
the
same
time.
I'm
not
sure
if
you
were
responding
to
that
or
something
else,
but
why
don't
you
go
ahead
and
let
us
know
thank.
D
You
chair,
so
I'm
interested
in
a
few
things:
the
human
trafficking
of
february
11,
so
the
human
trafficking,
the
sexual
assault,
kit,
domestic
violence,
so
pretty
much
everything
relating
to
february
11th
and
I
am
also
interested
in
the
summer
evictions
and
anything
I
can
do
to
help
in
that
arena.
A
Great
then,
I
will
assign
you
as
our
point
person
for
the
sexual
assault
study
and
the
human
trafficking.
A
When
I
say
study
I
mean
you
know,
conversations
about
changes
we
might
want
to
make
the
sexual
assault
definitions,
and
I
know
that
that's
something
that
the
coalition
to
prevent
sexual
and
domestic
violence
was
very
interested
in
last
session
and
I'm
sure
that
you've
worked
with
them
before
to
you
know
kind
of
review,
some
of
that,
as
well
as
the
human
trafficking
component,
which
I'd
be
happy
to
partner
with
you
on
and
I'll,
expect
you
to
help
out.
Assemblymember
summers,
armstrong
with
summary
eviction
conversation
and
we
appreciate
it.
O
Thank
you
chair.
I'm
happy
to
work
on
anything,
that's
a
straggler
at
the
end,
once
people
express
their
preferences,
but
I'm
most
interested
in
working
on
law
enforcement,
the
corrections
issues
and
possibly
assisting
vice
chairman
on
the
bail
and
pre-trial
release.
Since
that's
something
we've
been
working
on
together
for
quite
some
time
now,.
A
I
think
that
would
be
fantastic,
so
I
will
ask
you
to
be
our
point
person
for
the
corrections
community
and
also
to
work
with
vice
chairwin
on
the
bail
and
pre-trial
release
and,
let's
see
who
else
might
be
volunteering
before
they're
voluntold
to
take
on.
D
A
All
right,
assemblymember
o'neill,
you
and
senator
harris
will
be
taking
the
lead
on
our
law
enforcement
topics
coming
up
in
july,
and
maybe
I
will
see
if
a
assembly
member
krasner
would
be
interested
in
taking
on
some
issues
related
to
juvenile
justice
and
record
sealing
and
what
else
assembly,
member.
D
D
I
mean,
obviously,
I'm
interested
in
all
of
these
topics,
they're
all
very
important
and
that's
why
I'm
on
judiciary
and
have
been
for
three
sessions,
and
I
I
am
very
sorry,
but
I
don't
see
where
we're
discussing
what
topic
on
what
date,
I'm
I'm
pulling
up
that
email,
but
I'm
not
finding
it.
Could
we
just
have
staff
super
briefly.
A
So
you
can
actually
find
it.
It's
an
exhibit
to
our
meeting.
Is
the
judiciary
committee
work
plan
and
it
also
is
not
set
in
stone,
so
if
there
is
a
reason
to
move
a
topic
from
one
date
to
another,
we
can
absolutely
do
that
and
assembly
member
krasner.
If
you're
on
your
email
right
now,
I
can
just
email
it
to
you.
D
Yes,
that
would
be
great,
I'm
also
very
interested
in
the
the
sexual
issue.
You
talked
about,
maybe
one
or
a
group
of
people
sitting
down
with
survivors
of
sexual
assault
or
industry
that
are
knowledgeable
about
sexual
assault
and
maybe
asking
them
what
issues
they
see
that
need
to
be
changed
or
modified,
and
that
would
be
something
I'd
be
very
interested
in
doing.
A
Great,
I
think,
if
you
and
this
remember
marzola
want
to
put
your
heads
together
on
how
best
to
do
that.
That
would
be
fantastic.
A
All
right,
I'm
missing
a
couple
of
people.
Senator
pickard.
Are
you
interested
in
taking
on
one
of
these
projects
for
the
interim.
E
I
you
know,
I
appreciate
the
offer
I
can
do
whatever
is
necessary
wherever
the
need
is.
I
was
looking
actually
at
the
june
10th
topics.
I
have
practical
experience
in
all
of
those,
but
that's
the
one
meeting
I
may
not
be
able
to
attend,
so
you
know
I'm
happy
to
help
any
other
way.
I
can
I'm
happy
to
participate
in
those,
but
again
that
may
be
a
meeting
I
have
to
miss.
I
currently
have
a
trial
set
for
that
day.
So.
E
Who
knows
if
that
trial
will
go
forward,
as
you
well
know,
but
if
it
does,
I
will
not
be
available,
so
I'm
happy
to
support
in
any
other
way.
A
All
right,
like
I
said,
they're
not
set
in
stone.
So
that
would
be
a
perfect
reason
to
adjust
our
schedule
but
yeah.
If
you
would
be
willing
to
work
with
our
esports
commission
and
bring
back
any
updates
that
they
have
and.
A
A
E
I
used
to
represent
litigants
and
summary
eviction
proceedings.
I'm
the
president
this
year
of
the
national
council
of
legislators
from
gaming
states
so
and-
and
I
have
some
experience
there-
esports
has
wrapped
up
in
that
as
well
and
then,
of
course,
the
charitable
events
is
as
well
so
in
any
event
happy
to
do
whatever
we
need
to
do.
A
Great
I'm
going
to
ask
you
to
follow
up
on
all
of
those
topics
and
report
back
with
you
know
other
areas
you
might
need
to
explore
other
agenda
items.
You
might
need
to
add
for
future
meetings
and
like
assemblywoman,
when
said,
you
know,
maybe
come
up
with
something
of
a
bdr
policy
proposal.
If,
if
there's
a
need
happy
to
do
it,
thank
you.
D
Thank
you
and
senator
picker.
This
is
rochelle.
If
you
want
to
meet,
I
think
there's
some
flexibility,
obviously
in
those
sparta,
on
the
way
dates
that
we
can
always
potentially
swap
other
things
with
other
topics,
if
necessary,
but
I'll
reach
out
to
you
as
well.
A
All
right
and
assembly
member
o'neill
anything
in
particular
pique
your
interest.
G
A
All
right,
I
appreciate
that
and
I
will
ask
you
to
work
with
senator
harris
on
both
the
corrections
issues
and
the
law
enforcement
issues.
I
I
think
that
generally
covers.
We
have
senators
senator
harris
and
member
o'neal
working
on
corrections.
We
have
assemblywoman
krasner
working
on
juvenile
justice,
we
have
assembly,
member,
marzola
and
krasner
working
on
human
trafficking
and
sexual
assault.
We
have
assembly,
member
summers,
armstrong
and
marzola
working
on
summary
evictions.
A
We
have
senator
pickard
working
on
gaming
issues,
charitable
events
and
esports.
We
had
a
couple
of
other
topics
come
up
during
that
conversation
that
I
failed
to
note
but
kind
of
related
to
to
those
issues.
All
the
pre-trial
release
and
bail
that
assembly
remember
when
and
senator
harris
will
be
working
on.
Mr
guy
name
is
thornton.
Did
I
miss
anything
that
we
had
previously
outlined
as
something
that
our
committee
is
responsible
for
covering.
B
Here
this
is
patrick
geiman
for
the
record.
I
don't
believe
so.
I
think
it
would
be
probably
prudent
for
diane-
and
I
at
this
point
to
just
review
the
list
and
and
the
me
and
the
minutes
from
today
and
the
assignments
that
everyone's
gotten
and
then,
if
there's
anything
that
fell
through
the
cracks,
we
can
alert
you
to
that.
I
am
not
seeing
anything
off
the
top
of
my
head.
B
I
can't
think
of
anything
to
add
I'll,
just
let
diane
chime
in
and
she
has
something.
Thank
you.
A
All
right,
so
it
sounds
like
we
covered
most
everything
and
again.
This
is
not
a
satin
stone
list
either.
So
I
hope,
as
you
dive
into
these
topics,
you
will
find
other
topics
of
interest
or
focus
in
more
narrowly
and
of
course
we
can.
I
will
caution
us
about
adding
things
to
our
agenda
because
it
already
is
very
large,
but
certainly
if
there's
something
that
you
want
to
explore
and
you're
willing
to
take
on
that
responsibility.
A
I'm
happy
to
offer
the
interim
judiciary
committee
as
a
platform
and
as
a
structure
for
vetting
ideas
for
you
or
any
other
member
of
frankly
of
the
legislature,
who
has
a
topic
that
they
want
to,
like,
I
said
bet
through
the
committee,
which
I
think
would
be
a
good
time.
A
I
am
sorry
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
ms
o'krent,
but
I'm
hoping
that
you
can
give
us
just
a
little
reminder
about
the
open
meeting
law
as
we
work
through
these
topics,
because
I
it
is,
of
course
my
intent
to,
as
I
said
before,
include
more
people
in
this
process,
not
to
exclude
people
in
this
process.
A
And
so
I
just
want
you
all
to
keep
in
mind
that,
while
it
is
good
to
be
working
with
stakeholders
and
community
members,
it
is
not
good
to
be
having
meetings
among
legislators
without
properly
notifying
the
public.
I
Sure
thing
carly
o'crunk
for
the
record,
I'm
just
making
sure
I'm
sorry
I'm
having
a
little
bit
of
problems.
Okay,
I'm
assuming
people
can
see
me
and
hear
me.
I
Hopefully,
okay,
perfect,
okay,
so,
as
you
guys
are
all
familiar,
the
legislature
is
not
subject
to
the
open
meeting
law,
but
it's
important
to
the
work
of
this
committee
that
that
the
meetings
comply
with
the
spirit
and
intent
of
the
open
meeting
law.
So
just
as
a
friendly
reminder,
the
open
meeting
law
applies
to
meetings
at
which
a
quorum
of
members
are
present
to
deliberate
toward
a
decision
or
take
action.
I
So
when
you
guys
are
exploring
these
topics
that
you've
been
discussing,
I
would
just
encourage
you
to
consider
that,
in
the
absence
of
a
quorum,
members
are
allowed
to
privately
discuss
public
issues
or
even
lobby
for
votes.
However,
if
a
quorum
is
present
or
is
gathered
by
something
called
serial
communication,
so
one
of
you
emailing
and
another
one
emailing
and
so
on
and
so
forth
in
a
manner
that
includes
a
quorum
of
you,
you
want
to
make
sure
that
you're
complying
with
open
meeting
law
and
not
deliberating
toward
a
decision.
A
Yes,
it
does
thank
you,
and
I
know
that
you
I
know
that
all
of
our
members
always
strive
to
comply.
So
if
you
have
any
questions
or
run
into
any
concerns,
please
please
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
me
to
reach
out
to
our
staff
and
we're
happy
to
clarify.
Well,
I'm
not
the
expert,
I'm
happy
to
get
somebody
to
clarify
for
you
any
open,
meeting
questions
and
go
ahead.
Assemblyman.
G
Thank
you
chair
just
to
clarify
that
these
discussions,
such
as
senator
harris
and
I
will
be
having
with
various
stakeholders,
should
do.
I
understand
you
want
them
to
me.
They
would
be
best
announced
ahead
of
time
scheduled
for
certain
dates
and
times
the
legislative
building
would
be
available
or
at
least
zoom
meetings.
G
A
That
is
an
excellent
question
and,
as
with
everything
at
the
legislature,
our
resources
are
limited.
A
So
certainly
we'd
be
happy
if
there
is
a
larger
meeting
that
you
plan
to
have,
and
you
want
to
notify
the
public
in
advance
and
have
lots
of
testimony,
we,
we
could
talk
to
our
staff
about
setting
up
a
meeting
like
this
or
at
a
legislative
building,
but
for
the
most
part
these
would
be
smaller
discussions
and,
as
ms
o'krent
said
not
aimed
towards
coming
to
a
decision.
A
A
A
I
think
that
you
know
this
is
the
bill
that
we
should
pass
as
long
as
we're
bringing
to
the
table
a
number
of
options
so
that
this
body
can
discuss
in
you
know
a
democratic
fashion
which
proposals
we're
going
to
move
forward,
and
that
is
all
done
publicly
that
complies
with
the
spirit
of
the
open
meeting
law.
G
Will
travel
funds
be
available,
then
for
the
members,
because
I'm
up
north
senator
harris
is
down
south
for
us
to
actually
get
together
face-to-face
with
these
various
community
of
interest
groups
to
discuss
the
options
or.
O
Here,
if
I
may
assemblyman
o'neill,
I
have
lots
of
ideas
about
how
we
can
coordinate
and
work
together,
as
you
mentioned
since
you're
up
north
and
I'm
down
south
we'll
likely
have
to
do
a
lot
of
these
type
of
zoom
meetings.
Virtually
you
know
I'm
happy
to
to
come
up
north
and
possibly
meet
with
you
in
person,
at
least
once
as
we
work
through
some
of
these
issues.
O
But
let's
start
off
with
exchanging
our
our
contact
information
and
we'll
chat
offline
about
different
ideas.
Since
there's
only
two
of
us,
we
aren't
anywhere
close
to
a
quorum
and
don't
have
to
worry
about
violating
open
meeting
laws
or
the
spirit
of
the
open
meeting
law.
But
I've
got
lots
of
ideas
of
how
get
started.
A
Thank
you
all
other
questions,
other
thoughts
before
we
wrap
up
this
portion
of
our
discussion.
A
All
right,
I'm
not
seeing
anybody
raising
their
hand
so
technically
agenda.
Item
number
five
is
a
review
of
the
committee
work
plan.
You
know,
for
the
sake
of
our
record,
I
do
want
to
make
sure
we
hit
every
agenda
item,
so
I
think
that
we
have
covered
everything
again,
that
work
plan
is
available
to
members
and
also
to
the
public
on
our
website.
A
A
All
right,
then,
the
only
other
thing
that
we
have
on
our
agenda
today
is
public
comment
before
we
get
to
public
comment.
I
would
just
one
more
time
like
to
ask
the
members
of
the
committee,
if
there's
anything
else,
that
they
wanted
to
discuss
in
this
inaugural
meeting
that
maybe
didn't
get
covered
under
one
of
our
other
topics.
A
All
right,
I
don't
see
anything
so
let's
go
ahead
and
go
again
to
our
public
comment
section
and
anybody
is
there.
Anybody
on
the
line
to
give
public
comment.
D
A
All
right,
then,
having
no
other
business
before
the
committee
today.
Our
next
meeting
will
be
on
friday
february
11th,
also
at
9
00
a.m,
and
we
are
now
adjourned.