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From YouTube: NixOS Marketing Team Meeting #2, 2020-04-01
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you're
attending
so
we'll
do
the
notes
as
last
time.
If
anybody
else
wants
to
do
the
minute,
please
let
me
know
after
the
meeting
then
we'll
kind
of
once
the
meeting
gets
published,
we'll
do
the
minute
after
the
video.
After
watching
the
video
again,
let's
keep
the
ideas
open,
let's
be
open
for
ideas,
let's
try
to
not
of
how
to
do
it,
but
why
to
do
it?
Let's
also
be
on
the
topic,
which
means
we
are
not
here
to
fix
Nick's
in
this
meeting.
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What
should
be
on
the
front
page,
at
least,
but
maybe
from
this
perspective
of
what
are
the
features
of
Nick's,
because
I
wanted
to
get
rid
of
the
about
pages,
to
kind
of
include
the
about
pages
inside
the
front
page,
which
is
where
we
talk
about
these
features
and
yeah
I
can
list
them
if
you
want-
and
we
can
talk
one
after
another.
But
what.
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Yeah
definitely
but
I
would
say
like
looking
at
the
about
page
and
comparing
the
two
between
cuz.
There
are
two
about
pages:
one
is
about
NYX
and
the
other
one
is
about
Nick's
OS
and
they
are
quite
similar
like
certain
aspects
right,
because
it's
reproducibility
roll
bags
and
all
of
this
and
then
then
there.
This
is
one
aspect
like
with
there's
things
that
are
basically
the
same
from
Nick's
and
X
OS.
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Well,
there
can
be
almost
any
kind
of
developer,
because
Nix
is
very
heterogeneous.
In
fact,
that's
kind
of
one
of
the
main
selling
points
of
Nix
is
that
if
you
have
complex
systems
that
depends
on
things
in
different
languages
and
then
mix
is
your
solution.
I
mean
if
you're
writing,
something
in
one
language
say
rust,
then
you're
probably
happy
just
sticking
with
cargo,
but
almost
any
real-world
system
ends
up
with
dependencies
in
other
languages
and
then
these
per
language
package
managers
don't
really
cut
it
anymore.
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Provisioning
of
lots
of
external
components,
so
this
is
where,
in
the
expected
juice
comes
in,
so
you
have
this
giant
set
of
packages
that
you
can
use
right
away
and
yeah
and
and
it's
not
just
and
and
then
then
it
goes
to
the
second
audience.
You
can
then
take
that
thing
that
you've
you've
built
and
you
can
deploy
it
into
production.
You
can
use
the
same
language
as
your
configuration
language
for
your
cloud
environment
or
whatever.
Okay.
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Would
even
say
that
reproducibility
is
the
thing
that
actually
can
distinguish
us
from
all
the
others.
That's
my
or
yeah
like
looking
at
everybody
else.
This
is
what
we
do
especially
good
I
mean
it's
a
hard
problem,
so
we're
not
it's
not
that
we're
doing
it
awesome
and
you
still
have
to
you
know,
package
things
innings,
but
once
you
do
it,
things
are
easy.
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Mean
you
can
spin,
this
like
real
is
really
relying.
Is
the
site
like
it's
the
it's,
the
outcome
of
being
reproducible,
and
there
are
many
others
right
and
we
should
don't
mention
the
mall
or
I.
Would,
though,
just
sticking
sticking
to
the
topic
of
audience
I
would
expand
the
developers
and
I
mean
yes,
we're
targeting
developers,
yes,
we're
targeting
next
class,
but
we
are
primarily
targeting
the
beginners
of
Nixon
XO
s
right.
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So
there
are
few
tape
like
this
is
hard
to
do
very
quickly.
I
would
say
like
it's
like.
We
cannot
say
it
like,
even
if
you
start
saying
it
with
with
a
message,
it's
very
hard
to
do
it
and
like
either
you
sound
like
you're,
dragging
in
a
sense
like
or
talking
just
trying
to
win
with
the
with
few
nice
words
or
like
I.
Don't
know
somebody
mention
examples
right
before.
Maybe
that
would
be
like
quick,
3,
5
10
line
examples
which
we
have
in
a
slideshow.
That
might
be
the
case,
but.
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So
I'll
just
recap
what
we
have
so
far
and
then
let's
vote,
whether
we
continue
and
what
are
still
the
questions.
So
we
we
are,
if
I
understand,
nobody's
really
against
that.
We
have
Nick's
like
that.
We
have
like
two
sides
of
the
things
one
is
about
developers
and
the
other
one
is
about
miksa,
less
devops
right,
so
so
so
these
are
our
target
groups.
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The
silver
lining
between
is
reproducibility
and
everything
and
all
the
outcomes
that
come
out
of
this
we
should
show
features
which
I
think
this
is
here
is
the
is
like
the
question:
how
other
side's
websites
do
it?
The
features
that
comes
out
of
these
people,
disability
and
I,
don't
think
we
should
show
20
of
them,
but
we
should
select
few
and
point
to
the
page
of
a
bigger
discussion,
like
of
bigger
selection
of
what
mix
can
do
I.
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Something
I
would
agree,
I
wouldn't
put
this
on
the
front
page
I
would
definitely
not
and
not
because
I,
don't
think
mix
does
a
good
job
there,
but
I
don't
think
this
is
the
main
audience
we
want
to
attract
or
going
for
that
market
or
at
the
same
time
we
are
targeting
it,
but
it
should
not.
I
would
I
think
we
are
not
a
Linux
distribution.
First,
we
are
about
the
DevOps
first.
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For
sure
and
and
so
I
think
it's
like
I
do
think
works
great,
like
I.
Think
next
to
us
works
great
for
that,
but
I
want
to
I
want
to
be
careful
to
make
sure
that
that
we're
like
we're
not
trying
to
sell
it
as
like
a
comeback
round
on
your
desktop
environment.
It's
more
like
you
could
do
that.
But
like
it's,
you
know
you
can
also
interplay
it
to
ten
thousand
servers
in
an
afternoon.
I.
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Think
it's
worthwhile
mentioning
why?
Because
now
the
question
would
be
for
either
of
of
us.
Why
do
we
wanna
put
something
on
the
front
page?
Why
it's
the
what's
the
end
goal
right,
I
think
we
always
have
to
remind
ourselves.
I
already
mentioned
it
in
the
beginning
of
this
meeting
is
mix
in
the
mainstream
right
so
or
NYX
OS
in
the
mainstream
and
I.
Don't
like
people
are,
you
know
so
sure
the
mainstream
for
a
desktop
would
be
open
to.
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Let's
say
in
from
the
Linux
distributions
there,
of
course,
others
or
and
comparison
with
the
Ops
DevOps
world
would
be
docker,
but
these
are
the
tools
in
the
mainstream
usage
and
that's
why
we
are
like
with
either
of
these.
We
are
targeting
that
space
or
not
that
space
exactly
so
we're
not
trying
to
replace
either
of
them,
but
like
model
of
our
messaging
around
on
the
front
page
but
they're.
Why
are
we
doing
this
like?
What's
more
important
like
this
is
a
good
question.
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It's
also
my
impression
that
most
people
you
use
Nick,
swears
on
their
desktop
started,
doing
that
after
they
first
started
using
Nick's
on
some
other
Linux
distribution
or
Mac
OS,
and
they
sort
of
became
hooked
and
they
decided
well.
Let's
now,
I
wanted
to
have
my
entire
system
managed
in
that
way,
so
makes
us
the
gateway
drug,
but
ok,
it's
probably
not
the.
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I
think
we
can
agree
on
two
things
already
so
I'll
try
to
focus
on
things
we
agree
upon.
There
should
be
a
doubt
that
there
should
be
like
on
the
front
page.
There
should
be
a
way
like
even
before
above
the
fault,
there
should
be
a
way
that
you
see
how
to
install
NYX
and
that
you
know
where
to
go
to
download
page
right,
so
I
think
that's
important,
like
from
all
the
pages
I've
seen
it's
always
like
start
like
they
even
have
an
examples
like
interactive.
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I
think
so
one
possible
option
is
like
so
one
of
the
cool
things
about
like
that.
Footer
with
like
stacks
of
links
is
you
could
put
all
sorts
of
great
articles
with
keywords
in
there
so
like
it
could
be
a
page
on
cross-compilation
and
like
mix
with
us
on
the
desktop
Nix
OS
on
my
cell
phone,
that
sort
of
stuff,
and
then
they
have
good
keywords,
easy
to
find
them.
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That's
why
there
is
also
a
topic
where
we
will
talk
about
analytics
and
how
measure
whether
we
put
something
on
there.
Any
successful
analytics
comes
later
or
no
analytics
or
the
way
how
we
will
measure
this,
but
it's
not
something
that
we
will
do
now
and
it's
going
to
stay.
We
just
need
to
do
it
better
than
it's
now
and
I.
Think
I
proposed
that
until
next
time
we
get
an
example
like
the
same
as
we
have
for
governance,
page
and
yeah.
We
then
review
it.
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Into
our
discussion
now
and
then
what
needs
to
be
added
change
in
order
to
be
merged,
make
sense,
I'm
trying
to
kind
of
not
go
into
too
deep
into
the
discussion
and
maybe
split
it
into
the
next
time,
a
bit,
because
it's
a
bit
abstract
right
and
yeah
okay.
So
this
will
kind
of
wrap
up
the
landing
page.
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B
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Should
we
let,
let's
maybe
read
what
we
currently
have
and
then
maybe
have
the
discussion
again
next
time
when,
when
others
can
over
well
everywhere
and
everybody
can
do
a
research
I
think
the
first
page
I
put
it
up,
which
is
the
first
two
or
three
I
put
it
up,
which
is
rustling
dot
org?
What
I
liked
about
it
is
the
tone:
I
constantly
go
there
and
borrow
things
so
rest
community.
Thank
you.
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This
is
one
of
the
things
I'd
like
to
do
even
before
we
do
the
2003
release
and
even
going
with
this
direction.
What
we
just
discussed
that
we
have
focus
on
the
ops
part
that
would
spoil
it
would
be
like
I
would
really
like
to
have
a
cloud
cloud
deployment
section
where
we
would
definitely
mention
like
to
cover
90%
of
the
market.
You
just
need
to
mention,
or
even
more
probably
Amazon
images
and
just
have
it
a
bit
more
concise
and
not
table
like
so.
A
There
is
like
some
dropdowns,
and
it
gives
you
the
right
link,
so
amazon
g
c
e,
and
so
the
google
cloud
and
sure
so
those
three
like
there
will
be,
of
course,
below
the
desktop
images
that
we
currently
have,
which
is
the
graphical
and
the
minimal
or
actually
graphical,
will
be
actually
split
now
into
genome
and
KDE.
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And
going
into
the
download
page,
why
it's
really
important,
and
maybe
we
will
not
do
it
this
time.
The
download
page
I
think
it's
the
end
product
of
a
release,
so
we
do
release
I
mean
it's
a
weird
way
to
create
a
new
download
page
to
update
the
download
page
right.
This
is
the
last
step.
Of
course,
there
are
many
I
mean
this
is
the
last
nice
step,
but
that's
where,
like
the
last
thing
we
do,
we
should
actually
change
all
those
links.
A
I
think
that's
that's
really
important
to
kind
of
be
involved
also
with
the
release
process,
but
not
going
there.
That
should
be
discussion.
A
nice
example
how
how
of
the
download
page
is
the
tumbleweed
download
page?
If
you
have
any
other
that
you
saw
where
they
have
like
a
lot
of
software,
we
tried
to
give
you
in
different
shape
or
form
that
would
be
nice
to
review
and
the
third,
the
last
one
is
chocolaty,
which
is
the
dotnet
package
manager'
a
lot
font
of
how
so,
basically
looking
at
chocolate
it
at
work.
A
I'm
not
one
of
the
tone
of
their
messaging,
because
it's
a
bit
like
a
bit
gamey
child
like
it,
doesn't
give
this
seriousness
there.
But
what
I
like
about
is
the
the
content
on
the
front
page
and
how
they
structure
it
even
or
by
the
order
so
the
type
of
the
content.
So
they
mentioned
the
packages
and
how
much
and
you
can
search
right
away
on
the
front
page.
The
packages
like
just
the
the
content
there-
that's
there,
it
kind
of
inspired
me
to
hopefully
will
get
something
like
this
on
Nick
sighs,
the
dork.
A
E
This
I
think
this
was
just
talking
about.
We
were
talking
about
this
and
I
mentioned
it
as
a
peso
one,
just
one
example,
but
so
it's
pretty
common
for
there
to
be
like
a
pretty
sizable
like
almost
entire
site
in
that
worth
of
links
at
the
end
of
a
lot
of
websites,
so
packet
comm
has
one
doctor.
Comm
has
one
probably
Microsoft
has
one
and
it's
for
those
that
quick
searching
that
I
mentioned
earlier.
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E
And-
and
so
there
was
some
discussion
about
like
putting
status
information
in
the
bottom
to
like
in
a
PR,
I,
think
I
think
those
links,
yeah
and
I-
don't
care
about
that.
But
there
was
this
like
there
was
this
one
comment:
I
remember,
reading
I,
don't
remember
who
said
it,
but
it
was
like.
Well,
we
don't
have
anything
else
now
so
it'd
be
weird
I,
don't
think.
That's
really
true
I
think
we
can
just
put
I
think
we
can
just
start.
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D
A
A
B
A
A
Then
search
the
packages,
link
I
think
something
similar
chocolaty
does
as
well.
Yes,
okay,
let's
see
where
we
go
with
this,
because
I
would
just
like
to
do
the
landing
page
a
bit
better
than
now
and
move
from
there
like
that,
will
probably
upset
I'm
already
going
to
say
I'm,
sorry
to
those
who
are
going
to
upset.
A
A
So
this
could
be
like
a
recurring
theme
of
discussion
if
somebody
finds
it,
let's
discuss
the
idea.
Okay,
there
is
a
action
item
from
last
time.
I
think
it
was
all
resolved,
which
is
for
the
showing
the
merchandise
on
the
front
page
or
not.
On
the
front
page
on
the
mixer.
Is
the
torque
I
think
it's
coming?
It's
even
nicely
reported
inside
this
course,
so
Mogul
mobile
man,
that's
his
nickname.
Thank
you
for
doing
this
I
think.
A
B
A
But
just
if
we
can
help
him,
or
vice
versa,
where
the
link
will
go,
I
was
thinking
under
community,
which
is
not
there
yet
page.
So
we
currently
will
have
governance
and
there
will
be
a
community
page
where
we
will
list
the
events,
the
meetups,
the
the
merchandise
where
you
can
get
in
contact
with
help
like
the
discourse
Stack
Overflow,
like
things
like
that,
would
that
be?
Okay?
Yes,.
B
E
One
thing
about
the
stickers:
that
is
it's:
it's
just
as
personal
red
bubble
shock
yeah.
Maybe
maybe
he
could
open
up
I
just
messaged
him
iirc,
but
maybe
we
should
ask
him
to
like
start
one.
That's
actually
like
Nix
OS,
specific
I.
A
Think
this
is
like
for
now.
I
will
just
include
it,
because
it's
better
than
nothing
like
just
as
a
initial
part,
and
then
let's
invite
him
and
see
how
we
can
do
this
better
yeah
I
think
I
think
this
is
like
small
steps.
I
agree.
We
could
do
much
better,
but
I
think
he
also
would
agree
that
we
can
step
up
the
game
there
as
well.
Yeah.
A
A
A
D
First,
unmute:
okay,
it's
not
really
a
a
big
thing,
it's
more
about
something
we
should
do
and
okay,
it
is
to
list
every
URLs.
We
were.
We
had
before
the
migration
to
notify
verify
that
they
still
point
to
something.
If
they
should
point
to
something
like,
let's
say
yeah,
if
we
fix,
we
add
the
Yoko
till
they
call
stuff
that
was
moved,
essa
all
right,
I,
don't
know
what
else
is
missing.
I
think!
There's
the
mailing
list
archives
there,
maybe
the
older
iron
slugs.
A
B
B
B
Knicks
for
reproducible
science,
for
example,
that
seems
to
be
needed.
Such
a
tool
and
I
think
Knicks
could
help
there
and
we
can
explain
how
they
could
fit
into
a
next
package
version
and
gets
the
same
tools
and
stuff
and,
for
example,
mixers
for
gamers,
where
we
document
how
to
set
up
steam
how
to
set
set
of
V
air
which
actually
works
and
which
games.
We
have
packaged.
A
A
There
is
no
getting
getting
started
for
NYX,
even
right
like
this
is
a
step
too
far
for
me
already
I.
Think
it's
a
good
idea
in
if
there
is,
let's
include
the
links,
but
I
would
not
see
it
as
a
priority
and
Hill.
We
have
a
getting
started
for
NYX
and
getting
started
for
next
was
like,
and
what
I
mean
by
getting
started
is
like
a
five
page
tutorial,
where
it's
kind
of
it
kind
of
shows
you
in
an
example
and
not
in
a
reference
manual
like
way.
A
A
B
A
E
E
C
C
A
E
A
D
C
E
A
B
C
A
A
A
A
One
thing
I
find
it
interesting
that
you
mentioned
that
it
is
maybe
not
for
the
website
itself,
but
the
collecting
on
on
a
documentation
tutorial
to
collect
more
deep
feedback.
So
if
somebody
goes
through
tutorial,
it'll
tell
them
like
we
want
to
improve
it,
make
it
better
for
the
next
person
and
just
answer
these
five
questions,
or
something
like
this
or
just
yes
and
now
was
this
resource.
Useful
I
would
find
this
valuable,
especially.
B
A
Even
say
it
can
be
even
going
further
right
like
there
can
be
even
five
questions
about
what
you
just
learned.
What
was
easy,
what
was
not
easy,
this
is
this
all
goes
to
the
person
who
actually
writes
that
tutorial.
What
feedback
do
you
want
right
and
I
think
we
should
be
not
allowing,
but
I
think
this
would
be
actually
beneficial
for
that
we
can
improve
the
constantly
the
tutorials
5.