Node.js Mentorship, 22 Mar 2019

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A

Oh, hello, everyone welcome to another mentorship meeting.

A

So today you have solo. Writing. Guy meeting notes. Welcome! Thank you. So our meeting today is gonna be short. We had planned to invite our mentors to get their feedback and get started, but then was not able to collect all the emails. So I delayed that I.

A

Did, however, let me share this with you.

A

So I did create a form for I'll share it in the chat. It's the forms or the mentors for the mentees to apply for I was hoping to finalize it during this meeting. This way, we'll have it ready and yeah. Let's start with that, I believe.

A

A

A

Can you see my screen yeah.

A

Okay, so, based on the feedback that we gathered and the discussion that we had I created, this form, hopefully he'll be able to share it with people to apply. At the moment we have from the previous forum, we have 1500 people already applied and in the slack Channel we have 300 people and the slack mentorship channel so I believe it's a good idea. If we send the form to people in the mentorship, Channel first then email the people that already applied in the previous cohorts.

A

What do you think I.

B

Was reading the intro.

A

Yeah, so I was saying that.

A

Yeah, so basically, we have 1500 people applied in the previous cohort and we have 300 people around 300 people in the mentorship repo on their mentorship slack channel. So I was wondering if we it's a good idea to prioritize like sending the form first, two people on slack, because that, like they're people who engaged the most with the program so far and after that, we can like send an email to the people already applied on the phone. The 1,500 people.

B

Yeah, it sounds good. The.

C

Idea, the idea is that we would get enough good responses from slack that we wouldn't need to send it to the email list.

C

Like is there a case where we wouldn't send it to both.

A

So at the moment we have like this list of mentors, so it's.

A

So we have 12 mentors at the moment if we get like half of the people on the mentorship channel, applying that's more than enough I believe.

C

Ok, so so we would, there would be a case where we would not send it to the email list. I.

A

Guess if we, if we send it like to the people in the mentorship channel and wait a couple of days to gauge the engagement and after that, we can send the emails and in the worst case we don't gather enough. In both cases, we can publicize it somehow. But I don't think like we're. Gonna need that.

C

Okay, so what's the so what's the threshold for knowing whether or not we we got enough I.

C

Mean I'm just asking you just goes like: what's the what's the like, what do we? Why would we not want to just send it to everybody, because we're worried that that would be too much.

A

My initial thought is just that we prioritize people who are already engaged and waiting on the program since, like last year, it will be more fair, I guess to like put them like on the top priority of the program.

A

D

You know I think it also is because there was so much interest last year that you know we're we're. You know out of the 1500 or so we're only really onboarding a handful I think like 5-10 some. You know something like that, but I kind of also see your point too, because this is also like. Maybe a good marketing thing to you know like maybe for this cohort. We do this, but you know I.

D

The question is: are we gonna have rolling cohorts and how frequent words be because we wouldn't want to just keep feeding from the 1,500 person list? We would want to start getting new people in and then like, maybe we're doing it via. You know. How are we choosing right like? Are we gonna? Do it via a random selection? I, don't know those are my thoughts.

A

Yeah, so, regarding how we choose like the last time we agreed, or the last thing we agreed on, is to hand off this responsibility basically to the Mentors, so we'll be doing small filtration over like a list that we have and we will hand most of the information filled out in this form to the mentors to choose this way like they'll, be able to choose people with similar time zones like similar, availabilities and they'll, be able to like read their BIOS and see like common interests. We mean sorry.

D

You mean the mentees are gonna, do that and then there will be like a list of people and then of those list of people. Then your mentors will use yeah, okay, so.

A

We already have the list of mentors we we're gonna have for this cohort, which is this list. The main idea is to have the mentees apply through this form and choose their mentors and the scope they want to be mentored in, for example, like they want to be in testing. They want to be in agnostic and after they apply, we filter the lists for everyone.

A

Let's say for Ben for everyone in testing, we sent Ben a list of all the mentees applied that they want to be mentored and testing, and then we'll do the filtering from there like he will choose based on the inputs filled in this form. He will choose whom he wants to mentor. Basically.

A

Does that make sense.

C

Yeah, so it's it's! Basically people applying to be mentored by specific people. So what other information are they giving? So it's it's because so is this sorry, this link is in the zoom yeah I'm, going to paste it to the console and paste it to the slack okay.

A

A

Thank you. This is only in view form, but I will share that that I'm not sure how I need your emails or something to do that.

C

Okay, so there's.

A

Okay, so let me go over it real quick, so we have the email address wired.

A

What's your name, the name the github handle I'm, not sure if you really need that we did need it in the last cohort to check if there are members of nodejs or not. But here we have a question so I'm not sure if we need that we'll discuss on that. Tell us more about you just some like background small current engagement level with no js' seeking to land. My first contribution I have includes with nodejs community through issues and pull requests. I'm already a member not just with some understanding of the majestic ecosystem.

A

I'm a member in one of the working groups or regular contributors to the project. I'm, not.

B

Sure um github I think it would make more sense to just get the handle instead of the full URL.

A

You think so yeah.

B

We can, we can do the URL ourselves pretty easily and that would be confusing to them to enter it into I've. Never been asked to put my URL forget hub into a forum.

A

Okay, what I did is, if you do this, it will ask you like it, will give you an example of how to do it.

B

Right, I, just I, don't understand why we need them to put that part in when we already know what it is. Yeah.

A

We don't I just liked in for consistency, but I will change that it.

D

Just might be really like if we're gonna all of a sudden start using this spreadsheet, then, if we're referencing off of this specific spreadsheet, even though we know the URL, it's gonna be super annoying. If we don't have that URL, you get what I'm saying yeah.

A

A

Okay, but I'm not sure if we need the field in the first place like the whole, you github handle and I'm not sure what are the use cases for that.

A

David, do you have any thoughts.

C

Sorry we're still talking about the github handle yeah.

A

They think we're gonna need that, do we have to keep it or remove it. We need to check if there are members and the doc yeah they're, not just yeah.

C

So kind of the way that that I'm thinking about this is is like like for each mentor, then choosing who they accept is kind of a two-step function, which is first filter. So anybody who can't who's not going to be like available when they are ready to mentor is just unacceptable.

C

So anybody like let's say Ben, is only available on Saturdays between you know, 1:00 a.m. and 2:00 I am just because that's his schedule. Anybody who is not available on Saturdays from 1:00 a.m. to 2:00 a.m.

C

is just not going to be able to work with Ben period, so that's kind of like step, one is filter and if there was anything other than that to like, let's say you know, you know like Ben only wants people who, like have a little bit of experience like he does not want to spend time explaining, is or telling them. You know what the event loop is or something like that like.

C

If that's his criteria, that's another filter right, we're been, is never going to accept somebody who doesn't know it get it so, like the so step. One hard filters then step. Two is what you called like sort or scoring. So all right now you've got three ten people whatever who are who are possible to match with them they're available during his time zone. They have like the requisite number of the requisite amount of experience. So now of the ten had has been choose, so this would be sorting.

C

So this would basically been would have like another set of criteria for what he's looking for, and that might be something along the lines of how willing they are to write about this. You know you might have somebody who who has already an experience of writing about their their experiences and they have a blog, so that might put them to number one, or maybe you know they. He cares about something else, which is maybe that they actually have created a node module before, like they've actually done.

C

You know they've created some node modules, and so then maybe he would just rank them based on how many github open-source projects they have or how many modules they published and yeah, but that's gonna, be that's gonna, be personal based on the univ, the mentor, but I see it kind of as this like two step process. Okay, you were asking about the the github URL, so my answer to that is yeah. I see no reason why not to have that if that's gonna help the mentors make their decision, you know, probably by sorting.

A

Okay, yeah, that makes sense it's will hug them like in the second phase of filtering, basically also.

B

I think we had talked about trying to keep the whole program pretty github centric I keep as much stuff in the repo as possible, so we definitely wouldn't want to end up with someone who didn't have a github account or something.

A

Okay sounds good, so let me continue tell us more about you current engagement level with nodes. Maybe this needs some more fight fine-tuning based on what David said.

A

So this is just saying how how deep have you contributed to node or engage with node from like this is my first contribution to node or I'm seeking my first contribution so I'm already, a member in one of the working groups already contribute to the code project and somewhere in between.

A

Maybe we need to add another one of the check box or like asking for your experience in programming or your experience in writing. Node.Js code. Do you think this is relevant.

C

A

Okay, so I'll add that the next question is: how interested are you to share your experience with the broader community?

A

Sharing knowledge is essence of the mentorship program. It just asking. Resources may vary from videos, blog post issues, thoughts session and it's like I'm, not sure my experience I will definitely share. This will help us filter people who are not maybe below the 3 threshold or something I'm, not sure. How useful is this, but we need a way to gauge or like communicate this to the mentees, that we are expecting like some sort of sharing of knowledge. They think this is the best way to do it.

B

I feel like people are gonna, be more optimistic than realistic, because they could probably tell that this that answering higher would be a good thing for them getting picked. What if we like added a box for like a URL to anything they have like a YouTube channel or blog, or anything like that, just to kind of verify that they actually have a means. Sure I, don't know. That's just a rough idea. Cuz I realized some of the things you don't necessarily necessarily need your own platform, like the talks, for instance, but maybe something like that.

B

C

You could you could leave it free to response, which is basically that sharing progress in this and this program is important to us. How do you plan on doing that, and so you know we might have people say I, don't know or like I'll write, a blog post or we'll probably have people who are much more serious about it. Who will write about it in detail because they've done about it, you know done it before or something yeah.

A

Like that, okay, so basically turn this into a freeform text.

C

Yeah, of course, the danger is the more freeform text that we have the more work we're creating either for us or them in mentors, but possibly.

B

Freeform text, in addition to that, like just below that in that way the people who do answer very low, we don't have to bother looking into the freeform text.

A

Yeah, that makes sense. We can also ask the mentors to read the text and make sure that it's aligned with what the mentorship months, which is people sharing.

A

So hey, why? Why are you interested in joining the program, freeform text? This is just to help like the mentors choose.

A

We want someone that is interested in putting back to the community, we're interested in someone that is passionate about learning one of the scopes and why they are passionate about that. Just in like in general, which nodejs areas are you most interested in so here is. This is like a complete one, so this is the area testing mounted by Ben and his the mentorship bio I will ask each mentor to fill in a mentorship bio similar to this one.

A

So we have basic information, basic details about the mentor and the scope with the doesn't Alaska hurt, I guess we should do it again. It's really good like to give some background about each mentor.

A

They think this is enough way. We should include more details.

B

I think, as long as it's got a link to their bio, it's probably good.

E

Okay, excuse me: I have only one question the will have a subject.

E

We will have a subject to every one of the matters or it will be like only the name of the mentors, because if I mean, if I'm gonna choose like, for example, if I'm a mixie and I'm gonna choose I, think I should choose by subject and not by the person itself, because I don't know there, anyone you know yeah.

A

So basically, this is like a complete field, so this is the subject which is testing. Maybe you should hire like okay I got it. Okay, think yeah I mean maybe we should add, like area semicolon to make it like more obvious yeah.

B

That we work all that scope in the first code, I.

C

Mean there's also part of me that that is totally fine with making the mentees do a little bit more research on who they, who they want I think almost as a filter.

C

Like kind of the way that I was thinking about it, you know when we talked before, is that the the mentee would be saying explicitly why they were effectively applying to be mentored by then so the things that then works on would have to be particularly important to them. For some reason you know it could be as simple as like. Oh I use yards all the time, and you know that's such a great, you know, run open source project and so I feel like.

C

Then, when you know have a lot to say, or you know something about NPM or something like that,.

B

Do we have a way of limiting the number of check boxes? They can check I.

A

Believe so, and in the forum itself, you can say like maximum. This number yeah.

B

That might be good just so they don't check everybody, hoping that somebody will take them.

B

Cuz. That's not gonna give us any useful information if they check all the Scopes.

C

Yeah completely agree with that: yeah.

A

This makes sense about your point David. How do you think we can go about that.

C

So I don't know it depends. It depends how we're thinking about this I was thinking about it much more personal, it's kind of like all I've, never done it I. Imagine it's similar to how people apply to graduate programs expecting to work with a particular. You know, professor or something like that where, like oh, this person is doing this particular research that I'm interested in like I'm going to apply to work with them. Obviously this is totally different, but I think a lot of these people, I assume, are particularly public.

C

I mean I I recognized a bunch of these names as being fairly fairly public. So it shouldn't be too difficult to see the projects that they worked on and and get interested in them and even I do think, and you know they do work on fairly different things.

D

It's kind of like when you apply to speak at a conference right. Yes, why do you want to speak at a conference and when you're reviewing the CFPs somebody who's? Writing a paragraph? Okay, you're gonna, listen to verses, I like node like okay, well, you're! Actually, not that dedicated right, I mean same thing with the resume. Do you put a cover letter or not, and so that'll help self-select kind of the people who are most eager, potentially.

C

You know in a way it's almost like you would yeah I, don't know if we want to limit them to choose an only one, but maybe for each one they choose they they would I, don't know, makes it pretty complicated, but you'd expect. What somebody is writing to then should be different than what they're writing to guy.

C

You know they both have worked on pretty high profile projects and if they both get the same response.

C

D

I mean the question is like, for example, we could take a spreadsheet and then we could just do a quick pivot table so that we can just give Reuben all his responses. For example, right um I don't know if we need to necessarily filter that, but it would be good for the you know the the mentors as they're choosing to get an idea of like okay, this person, serious okay, that's what person wants to work on something very specific. You can imagine somebody you know.

D

um Maybe it wasn't Ben saying something like very, very, very specific about testing don't be like okay, I want to mentor on that or Ben might choose somebody else who just says you know: hey I'm a you know, I'm a woman trying to get into tech, and maybe who wants to do that and maybe Ben doesn't actually want to talk about testing right.

A

Okay, so if we're gonna do that, we're gonna have to limit like mentees choosing only one mentor I believe to be attainable.

B

I would feel more comfortable in there like three range, especially if we might end up having mentors more than one mentor mentoring, the same scope. It could just be like yeah I'm interested in testing I, don't really care who mentors me on it. I just want to do testing if there's more than one person, mentoring testing and they can only choose one. That seems like a limitation. That's not necessary.

C

Yeah I think I think where I'm coming down is is, should it be based on the material or should it be based on the mentors experience and like tailored to the mentor I.

B

Like the idea of it being tailored to the mentor but I'm not sure that all of these people are as public as some of the others and I, don't know how to how that would work out for them because yeah, if somebody if I mean if I were to go, look through this list and research, everybody I'm I would definitely pick someone I could find information on I would never, especially if I was limited to one mentor. I, definitely wouldn't pick. Somebody I couldn't find anything about when there were people that were obviously high-profile.

C

A

So the mentors that we have at the moment, like they're amazing mentors all of them like have contributions and personally like I, would love to get mentored by each one of them and given like the like, the huge amount of mentees that we have I. Don't think this is a real issue, like everyone will at least get like ten mentees just like Azeroth. Yes,.

A

I'm not sure how we'd go about like just having people fill in the mentors that they want to get mentored with, and maybe like add the freeform text saying oh I, don't want to do that. Maybe this is like solution in-between.

D

That might be easier to manage from a forms perspective as well.

C

Yeah because I think like good right cuz, because the ideal is just okay, we take the form we group it by you know so you know again using Venn as an example, just everybody who chose then filter down to those and then we hand those over to Ben and hopefully that's not overwhelming, and they have all given enough information that lets Ben quickly sort, filter and sort by the ones that that he he wants to mentor right. So it's just get the whole spreadsheet split it out.

C

You know to the for the different mentors and then give it to them, and hopefully that's that's a digestible, easy way for them to work with. That's that's the ideal right. One.

B

Problem I see is that, depending on how narrow the schedule is of the mentors, if they only have a couple hours during the week, then if we're already filtering down to keep just people that chose them and then filtering on the top, those the ones of those people who are also available during those two hours we may filter everybody out see my else thing. That might be a potential issue with.

C

With everybody that we've that we've so with the slack and the email, you think that that's possible.

B

Mmm-Hmm, maybe maybe not no I,.

A

Don't think so I think.

D

B

I guess that was more us getting as if that is an issue. Would we consider pairing people with people they didn't ask for? Obviously we check with them and say hey this person's, not a good fit for you, but would you be interested in joining with someone else? Is that something.

C

Yeah I think we could definitely do like a second round. I. Think I. Hope we don't. But if we go this current approach, we might have concentration effects that we were talking about where, let's just worst-case scenario, you know like a few mentors, don't get anybody and a few mentors like John, David, Dalton and Ben co get everybody. You know at that point.

C

We could have the net we, you know we could reach out to the mentors or we would know just from the get-go that they didn't have anybody or find out that they didn't have anybody that they liked, and then we could look at the ones that got a ton of responses and say: hey, you know. Was there anybody promising? You know who who were you deciding between? Who did? Who ultimately did not choose, like maybe they'd, be a good fit for this mentor? Who didn't get anybody yeah.

B

A

Hope it doesn't like boiled down to that, but if it does I believe like there's many options that we can choose, we can like remove that, like the mentors that got the most responses from the pool and one of they're, like kind of the round of people applying I just.

B

Wanted to make sure we had a back-up plan sounds like we did so we're good.

A

And the mentor is like are expected to have like some some kind of freedom and choosing we're not gonna filter this based on our criteria like we're gonna, let the mentors themselves themselves choose based on their schedule so yeah if none of the mentees applied for them fit their schedule, maybe like there's some room to squeeze a few hours a day with people like satellite.

B

Just to clarify these, these ranges are to our ranges, and the session would actually only be one is that correct, like it would be a one-hour session that falls somewhere in those two hours, so.

A

Here's like this is two hours. This is four hours for a sorry.

B

I didn't catch that I.

A

Basically, just took David shared in the last meeting or the last month they Whichard the F for David or then I'm, not sure I. Think.

C

Yeah, which is the way one that I put together, yeah.

A

It's been so when shared the foreign land I just took it, as is like, as a template, I believe the reason behind these numbers- or this is in the morning before you go to work. This is right.

B

I get that I'm just saying that if, if the actual session is gonna be an hour long, we should make that clear in the description that with which of these timeframes, could you set aside an hour, and so they don't think they're saying I'm available for a four-hour session. Yeah.

C

B

C

Yeah I think that's a good good point and and I guess, like I'll clarify so when I created this schedule for Jay SLA that you know this one was based off of everybody in the JSA mentorship lives in Los Angeles and has the same time. So that is also a simplifying factor that we may need to specify which time zone we're talking about.

B

C

Them a link maybe and give them a link. What's called the world time zone buddy there's some website that lets you easily compare time zones.

A

Yeah, we do in time buddy to schedule meetings.

A

It makes sense we should do that so time zone and excuses. They say the meeting is around one hour per week: yeah.

C

A

And finally, we.

C

Could we yeah, we could flip, we could slip the rows and columns and we could actually have the weekdays, be the columns and then you could do a 0 to 24 and then I mean it's gonna be pretty intense, but it's gonna be much more specific and leave less room for scheduling shoes. Yeah.

B

And being that this is just a one-time thing: they only have to fill this form out once I think that's acceptable.

B

C

Part of the reason, yeah part of the reason why the the JSL a1 did not go 0 to 24 is again, you know not having not having anybody international I just like trying to simplify it a bit and do general ranges. But you know if we're gonna have people all over the place because we had do. We have international mentors I.

A

Believe so yeah.

C

A

Yeah we do so. We.

C

Probably want to span all 24 hours and then we can incorporate the thing to where we just stick it to an hour granularity, because that's actually what it's going to be I.

A

Think it's a good idea. The main issue I am thinking about is so I, don't believe, like the duration of the cohort is 10 weeks, so I'm not sure everyone knows exactly like keeping it keeping it like abstract, like grouping it. This way might be easier to like give the promises that I'm free like from night and 11:00 a.m. that's.

B

A good point here.

B

Maybe we could put something in the instructions to indicate that well.

A

To be honest, in the last the last cohort, we didn't have an issue this time, I'm, not sure if we were lucky or what exactly, but usually in like the first time, the mentee and mentor like the match up meeting they agree on like when is the best time. How should we like do the like the mentorship, the mentoring? How should it be done, like you're slack zone, a synchronously on like messages or emails stuff like that, so I'm, not sure how like fine like we want to find humans.

B

I'm, fine with it like it is it just may, and some of the the ranges we've picked may end up being awkward in other time. Zones like our shorter ranges might be in the times that most people are awake, and then we have a large range in the middle of the night or you know the early morning or something but but yeah. Yes, maybe we could just even them out a little bit just do like. However, many we've got make them all even number of hours.

A

Yeah, do you think that's where David like just make them sick screens instead of five and.

A

C

Think that's fine, I mean I'm, not I. Guess like my I'm, much more oriented towards making the questions more specific and having more of them to be a filter on our mentee pool, so like I'm, not I'm, not not particularly worried about making it complicated or more involved, because at the end of the day, we really want to filter down to the mentees who are who are going to put in the most work and now like.

C

If, if it's, what I don't want to happen, is it's too easy for them to put down like Oh failable for this four-hour period and then once they get into to the the you know, once they get selected by their mentor and then they're not available? You know because like oh, but it was really only like the last hour and you know, I have to take my kids to school. You know before and so this time never really works for me, yeah.

B

That's a good point too, um a lot of good points because again with different time zones, or maybe even if not, some of these ranges may fall where half of that range there at work but at the end, they're off work. So if we do it in one hour increments, they can say ok, I'm always home for sure by this hour and I go to bed about this hour, so they kind of make their own ranges. Just by clicking several boxes. You know they don't have to I. Don't I think it's! Ok!

B

If they're not always available at every hour, they said that they click.

A

Ok makes sense, yeah I, agree. Ok, we'll have them like 1 hour increments. Let the flip the table whiskey. Do you think we missed anything other than what we discussed? We need a few more fields.

B

What's the little toggle at the bottom, send me a copy. Ok,.

A

This is all I could gather from our previous meetings, I'm, not sure. If I missed anything, we can always modify the form before we publish it.

B

Yeah I think it looks pretty good other things we've already addressed, yeah.

C

That's good so real, quick, I guess rundown. The changes that we're gonna make.

C

Okay, we do we do we. We keep notes of other things that we discussed. Yeah.

A

I believe yes,.

E

I'm here take a notice, can I can I confirm with you? If all the notes are correct, but the top cost to finalize the mix is about facial form, should I put the link no or no in the? In the note, the link of the the farm yeah.

A

It's okay. You.

E

Can put okay? Okay, the other thing is to prioritize a mail list. People people that write the mentorship is like channel, wait for a cup of days to see their engagement and send another madest to to the 150 people that already meets the the farms.

B

E

Github question be farm and transform interest in shark spirits from Radio. True, free farm tax response ask matters to create a mentorship bio like the demand and increase one hour, the in the mentorship that will quickly require a life. Sync I think that all the notes.

A

Am I miss anyone I believe we wanted to add also like their experience with nodes in general. Like do they have professional experience in nodes.

B

Well, or with programming right, we already got note yeah.

E

Okay, we have another bullet: okay, okay, okay,.

E

So the nutribullet Trask, if people have knowledge, if.

A

We're gonna run out of time soon. So is there anything else we need to discuss.

B

Do we have a plan for getting that information from the other mentors to get those line? Items completed good question.

A

So I have the emails of most of them from the Google Docs sheet that we have I'm missing. A few been like is unable to me some of this time, so I'm gonna have to like pick them all to myself and.

A

This week, so by the like by the next meeting, we'll have this ready and we'll be able send it out regarding what Tracy said. If you want to send the like prioritize, the people who are in the mentorship Channel, first or publicize it, we didn't I, just remember it. We didn't like iterate on that, so it will be good for the mateship program to announce that we are gathering mentees and doing that like strictly to the channel, will not allow us to do that. So I'm not sure what a results parties.

B

I, don't think I followed the questions. Okay,.

A

So if we target the 300 people and the mentorship the mentorship channel, we are not publicizing that we are starting. The next cohort so like this is the main issue that Lyrae Tracy raised. If you want to go with that approach,.

B

Personally, I'm fine with doing it in steps, you know until we get until all the mentors have found somebody they would like to work with start with this channel in them. Expand from there.

A

Do you think Tracy it's possible to just announce the mentorship without.

D

Without giving people the link.

D

D

Mean I, just you know like: maybe it doesn't matter, maybe we should prioritize the first people and then we can still say hey. If you want to sign up and let's see how many people we get in this time, and if we get in a lot of people, then we can kind of move our bets and start the next cohort. Sooner than later, it will keep the traction because um the last mentor program, what was what like a year ago, I think right.

D

So it would be so nice I, don't know what the plans are, but it would be so nice to see this kind of happening every you know, I, don't know every every few months, maybe or something um and then signing up to be a mentor. I forgot. If we have some sort of formal way to do that, do it we.

A

Did but not for this round for this round, we like chose winters.

A

D

I think, if we're going to announce it I mean we don't have to announce it, but then again people might think the initiative is dead. If we don't announce it. So that's like another thing: maybe we announce it and um you know if we do announce it.

D

If I don't know who wants to write a blog post about it or anything, but that could be an action item too and then I can work with you all to get that published on the official, node blog, but I think if we do do a more public announcement, we should absolutely have some way for mentors to like, submit and then I don't know if anybody's gonna be at the collab summit. But this is probably a good thing to like. Maybe you mentioned in the beginning as well.

D

During the hey, welcome presentation, saying: hey we're really looking for more mentors, please sign up and then having you know, a liaison from this team actually basically find all the mentors yeah, because you know week, if there's gonna be a hundred people right, like hopefully 20 say yes, I.

B

Know Dan had mentioned before and I agreed that we didn't necessarily want to bring a lot of attention to it until it was more stabilized you're.

C

Obviously, making.

B

Really big changes in this cohort and we're not sure whether we might make equally big changes in the next one. So I would personally prefer to hold off at least one more cohort before doing like a full know.

B

D

If we're starting this cohort, maybe it's a good goal for us to like, maybe that's something that we can talk about a collapse on it I.

B

Also think it'd be a good good marketing to have. You know, use this thing we put on the forum about. Would you share your experience and have the announcements come more from the people who actually got mentored I? Think that'd be cool yeah.

D

I think another really awesome. Action could be reach out to the old mentees and see what their experience was like and also the old mentors as well. Maybe we could just create a Google Form and just have them submit it to say, like hey give me, you know, give me a sentence on whatever like what did you like? What did you don't like, etc, and we can start using that as a way to promote the initiative. Yeah.

A

I have written an email for that I'm, not sure if you reddit, so basically the mentees that we had there. They wrote blog posts like full blog posts about their experience and I did take some quotations out of the blog posts about their experience with the program. I can share it with you, I believe I did CC, but I'm like I need to double check.

D

Okay, um you know one thing we could present did, did they like? Do we publish this blog post or.

A

Yeah we did, we did, but we did share it on Twitter I believe we did share two blog posts out of five I believe, like we had five blog posts, written plus a whole like video series, but we didn't. We only share two blog posts. If.

D

You can send me all of those just sort of in one email. Send me all the links myself and Kailen Kailen. You and I should talk about this, and maybe let me elicit the content, because maybe we can aggregate that into like a bigger blog post. That would be interesting. Okay,.

A

And also think we can so we can reach out to the 300 mentors and the mentees in that channel and wait. A couple of days then announce it to everyone. This way like we're being fair to everyone, there's a high probability that we're gonna need people outside the 300 scope, based on the filters that we have. We have so many filters right now. Yeah.

B

Also, the people in that channel most of those 300 have been there for over a year. So there's a good chance. A large portion of those aren't active anymore.

A

Sure and regarding the summit I'm not sure who's gonna attend I'm gonna apply for a visa, hopefully I get it this time.

D

Okay, yeah hi is that the myth travel plan, a stop. Do all the things a stop. I have to run to another meeting, but definitely please do that as soon as possible. So we can get the visa invitation. Letters for us.

C

D

I'm gonna drop a.

A

Station right, thank you. A bike thanks. Everyone.