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Node in Europe
A
Yeah
welcome
to
the
panel
discussion
on
nodejs
in
Europe.
My
name
is
Rudy.
I
am
CTO
of
Wildey
new.
No
will
elaborate
more
on
that
in
a
second,
so
we're
going
to
try
and
explore
the
topic
a
little
bit
about
nodejs
in
Europe
and
just
have
a
bit
of
a
conversation.
I'm
also
acutely
aware
that
it's
very
hot
in
here
and
that
there's
free
drinks
downstairs.
So,
although
this
is
scheduled
for
50
minutes,
if
we
finish
earlier,
we
can
all
leave
now
be
awesome
and
I,
don't
think
anyone's
gonna
disagree.
A
C
A
Cool
so
on
the
panel
we've
got
Richard,
googly,
Nuno
and
Alex
and
when
I
asked
them
all
to
introduce
themselves
briefly,
so
it's
a
it's
hard
to
find
a
panel.
So
Michael
kind
of
drop
this
on
me
on
a
couple
of
days
ago,
and
it's
been
pretty
hard
to
put
together
a
panel
at
no
Jess
Europe
because
most
of
people
here
American.
So
bearing
that
in
mind,
we're
going
to
give
it
a
go
right.
A
D
B
E
F
F
C
A
Carrying
on
that
theme,
just
from
that
point
of
view,
so
no
traditionally
has
been
strongest
point
in
what's
driven
node
into
what
has
been
widely
acknowledged,
is
one
of
the
strongest
open
source
projects
for
a
while
has
been
the
strength
of
the
community
around
it.
So
with
that
in
mind,
how
do
you
guys
perceive
the
community
in
Europe
at
the
moment?
What
are
its
strength
relative
to
the
community
at
large
and
and
how
do
you?
How
do
you
see
the
community
growing
in
Europe
in
your
relative
areas?
Do
you
think
that
it's
it's
growing?
C
G
A
G
I
would
say
like
a
two
two
sides
to
this:
there
is
the
community
community,
which
is
everybody
I,
you
guys
individually
and
then
there's
surprise
community,
which
is
how
many
people,
how
many
companies
use
node
and
is
that
growing
and
is
that
going
in
the
right
direction?
I
feel
strongly
that
the
North
community
in
Europe
should
be
bigger
than
it,
for
some
reason
is
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
people
coding
note,
but
for
some
reason
people
are
not
that
active
in
the
community.
Big
question
is:
why
doesn't
one.
G
E
G
Mom
so
yeah
and
then
then
there
is
the
enterprise
thing.
I
think
the
enterprise
thing
is
growing
really
well.
This
may
be
a
tendency
of
European
companies
to
be
a
little
bit
more
conservative,
but
I
actually
think
it's
going
really
well
and
we
so
our
customers
not
be
our
enterprise
users
and
we
see
I,
got
a
lot
of
interest
and
we
have
a
lot
of
customers
in
Europe.
So
something
is
definitely
working.
A
D
Yes,
I
would
say
that
no
Jess
adoption
is
like
increasing
overall
in
Europe,
but
there
are
some
trainings
like
that
are
missing,
like
in
schools
and,
for
example,
I.
Take
the
example
of
42.
It's
like
school
made
by
your
famous
entrepreneur
in
France,
and
it
means
like
the
training
for
students
to
learn
like
JavaScript,
icon,
server,
side
note
with
noches,
but
basically
yeah
inference
and
the
most
common
event
is
like
noches
Paris.
That
is
like
that.
D
Take
take
spark
like
every
month
that
should
organize
every
month
and
as
like
yeah
growing
number
of
people
coming
every
month
to
this
event
and
yeah
on
the
PM
to
side
yeah,
we
have
the
nudes
quite
spread
all
over
the
world,
but
I
would,
I
would
say,
like
twenty
to
thirty
percent,
two
of
the
nodes
will
come
from
Europe
the
same
four
key
metrics
for
commercial
software.
We've
seen
some
yeah
nice
pattern
from
yet
different
countries
in
Europe,
but
the
major
part
of
the
the
market
is
clearly
in
USA.
D
C
Yeah,
it's
a
the
growth
that
listen,
I'll
slow
is
like
a
lot
coming
from
the
enterprise,
a
lot
of
big
Java.
Traditionally
Java
and.net
places
oslo's.
You
know
quite
government
oriented
anyway,
so
that
I
can
that's
kind
of
been
the
traditional
angle,
but
there's
like
a
ton
of
node
coming
in
and
like
wrapping
it
all
wrapping
all
these
old
API
services
and
node,
and
then
building
out
new
front
ends
or
building
out
new
stuff
on
top
of
it.
C
C
A
F
Semi
will
attached
so
a
lot
of
companies
have
development
centers
in
Budapest,
and
a
lot
of
them
is
changing
too
no
Jess,
those
nigers
big
companies,
but
most
of
the
startups
we
see
in
Hungary
starts
with
no
Jess.
Most
of
them
starts
with
not
jess
and
also
within
the
hour
meetup
group.
There
is
more
than
a
thousand
people,
so
yeah,
there's
quite
having
dressed
there
as
well.
E
Well,
in
terms
of
London
everything
you
could
expect,
there's
obviously
meetups
note
school
events,
crash
courses,
meetups
on
different
topics,
mixing
topics.
So
if
you
go
from
the
community
perspective,
you'll
see
something
that
is
thriving,
but
obviously
no
there's
no
longer
the
new
kid
on
the
block
that
everyone
likes,
that's
probably
react
or
Cooper,
Nettie's
or
tensorflow,
or
something
like
that.
E
What
I
do
find
is
something
that
is
a
difficulty
for
the
enterprises
that
are
adopting
note
and
the
way
that
they
go
around.
It
is
actually
not
from
the
grassroots
adoption,
where
there's
a
lot
of
people,
but
actually
most
of
the
problems
are:
how
do
we
find
documentation?
How
do
we
know
what
are
the
good
people
that
can
help
me
lead
this?
How
do
we
adapt
our
processes
to
actually
adopt
a
technology
like
this,
because
we
see
the
results
right,
but
does
it
fit
in
our
strategy?
Like?
E
Can
our
architects
actually
use
this
tool
and
when
we
hire
from
the
market
do
we
know
if
the
developers
are
actually
coding?
Are
they
actually
cutting?
Are
they
actually
not
producing
all
those
tools
and
all
of
that
documentation?
All
of
that
expertise
exists
for
Java
for.net.
It's
things
that
people
can
immediately
see,
but
once
you
migrate
to
know
Jas,
you
end
up
a
bit
like
okay,
there's
all
this
excitement
I
participated
in
the
hackathon.
It
was
amazing,
I
see
the
new
thermostat,
the
British
Gas
did
it's
all
in
node.
E
This
is
incredible
or
sales
forces
doing
their
new
IOT
platform
on
this,
and
you
see
all
these
things,
you
see
the
advancement
that
you
have
in
two
weeks.
You
go
to
the
new
economist
website
off
you're,
lucky
enough
to
just
land
on
it
by
random
selection,
you'll
see
how
fast
it
loads
and
you
go
like
wow.
This
platform
really
gives
a
way
to
increase.
Conversion
increases
a
lot
of
things,
but
how
do
you
leverage
that
and
I
think
the
grass
roots
of
note
is
very
healthy.
E
The
growth
of
node,
as
you
know,
is
not
as
much
as
it
used
to
be,
but
I
think
that's
quite
normal.
It's
normal
that
there
are
new
tools
and
you,
but
in
terms
of
having
that
top
level
to
ensure
that
the
delivery
is
really
good.
That's
something
that
we
still
don't
have
and
not
something
that
has
been
historically
tackled
very
well
and
I.
Think
it's
quite
important
to
to
your
question.
A
So
we're
obviously
here
this
annoyed
foundation
event
and
the
foundations
obviously
set
some
stuff
up
in
Europe.
So
do
you
wanna?
Do
you
have
anything
to
say
the
foundations?
Obviously,
you
know
putting
more
and
more
of
an
emphasis
in
Europe
and
trying
to
set
up
events
here
we
had
we've
had
node
live
in
London
we've
had
it
in
various
places
throughout
Europe,
we've
now
got
interactive
year
in
Amsterdam
and
there's
a
level
of
investment
coming
Europe's
way.
A
But
what
can
we
do
currently
to
improve
the
node
community
or
the
node
position
in
Europe
as
contributors
to
it
and
participants
in
it?
What
do
you
think
is
lacking?
What
do
we
need
to
do
over
and
above
documentation
and
in
what
areas
do
we
think
that
the
foundation
can
help
us
achieve
that
relative
to
where
we
are
at
the
moment,
so
I.
G
Would
say
from
at
least
in
Denmark
and
I
guess
this
is
the
same
all
around
Europe
everything
is
driven
by
a
few
individuals,
so
you
have
a
few
dividuals
that
organize
the
meetups
make
sure
to
do
it
on
a
regular
basis,
and
it
can
be
really
a
big
strain
to
do
that
and
what
I
see
happen
in
Copenhagen
is
that
it's
just
basically
the
same
people
and
when
some
of
them
leave
for
other
things,
somebody
la
the
Polish
dropped,
so
I
I,
don't
know
if
the
note
es
foundation
can
help.
Probably
not.
G
I
can't
really
see
that.
Maybe
you
guys
have
a
good
idea,
but
that
is
that
that
is
what
I
see
as
a
problem,
at
least
in
denmark,
is
that
a
lot
of
people
want
to
know
about
node
and
want
a
code
note,
but
to
use
your
spare
time
to
organize
all
these
things
and
keep
the
community
healthy.
It's
it's
it's
hard.
Do.
G
C
C
C
G
It
would
be
better
for
me
when
I
go
out
and
try
to
look
for
a
venue
for
an
event
to
say
that
I
have
the
backing
of
the
notation
foundation.
It
seems
way
more
official
than
if
I'm
just
like
this
dude,
who
is
doing
these
meetups
so
so
that
that
would
back
there.
I
should
probably
be
pretty
helpful.
Yeah.
A
H
A
B
A
A
So
if
you
go
Bay
Area
you've
got
a
lot
of
cool
new
kid
startups
to
come
up,
they
get
established,
they
get
a
presence,
they
tend
to
have
a
bit
of
a
node
presence,
uber
its
etc,
but
in
Europe
we
have
a
lot
more
established
presences
in
some
occasions
and
we
have
to
cater
for
existing
legacy
stacks
and
we
build
on
top
of
that
and
various
things.
So
what
are
the
typical
node?
Because
you
know
the
stack
and
and
patterns
that
you
seeing
in
Europe?
You
know
back
in
for
front-end
that
kind
of
thing.
G
Big
issue
that
we
run
into
when
we
talk
to
potential
customers
is
they're,
very
afraid
of
leaving
their
own
data
center
arm.
And,
of
course,
I
can
use
note
in
the
own
data
center
they're
free
to
do
that,
but
if
they
want
to
leverage
the
whole
ecosystem
and
want
to
use
all
the
modules
without
having
to
validate
like
all
the
source
code
by
a
hundred
different
module
authors,
people
have
to
maybe
change
their
perspectives
a
little
bit.
I
feel
I
might
be
wrong,
but
I
feel
that's
different.
G
A
B
A
G
Safe
harbor
is
definitely
a
thing.
We
have
a
lot
more
control
here,
which
is
probably
also
good
regarding,
like
banks,
there's
a
lot
of
legislation
there
about
who
gets
access
to
what
data
that
you
simply
don't
have,
maybe
in
united
states
at
the
same
level
at
least
that
can
be
a
problem
like
is
this
good
thing
that
you
have
lost
to
protects
data,
protect
users,
identities
and
stuff
like
that,
but
it
still
makes
transition
to
these
sort
of
cloud
services
a
little
bit
harder.
G
E
G
A
What
was
the
question
again?
Fine,
so
do
we
see
cloud
as
being
a
nascent
technology
around
node
within
Europe
I
mean
relative.
You
know
back
to
what
you
just
said
about
you
know.
People
are
reticent
to
move
out
of
the
data
sensors
and
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
us
and
there's
some
issues
around
data
and
various
other
things
associate
did
so
quite
often
you
hear
about
notice
being
a
pattern
associate
a
WS.
You
got
that.
Do
we
see
it
less
of
a
common
pattern
in
Europe
because
of
that
I
mean
it.
E
No
now
I'm
just
kidding
the
reason
why
I
want
to
chip
in
is
because
I
do
think
and
I've
ever
seen
in
our
customers
a
lot
of
patterns.
There
is
I
built
this
in
node,
but
I
wasn't
expecting
it
to
be
successful,
but
now
it
is
on
the
top
50
apps
of
the
iphone
holy
crap.
Please
help
me
pattern
that
pattern
is
not
very
healthy
and
normally
involves
lots
of
crashes
and
it's
about
debugging
and
then
kind
of
retrofitting
the
good
practices
that
they
should
have
had
from
the
beginning
into
the
development
process.
E
That's
fairly
uncommon
sometimes
happens.
There's
the
backend
for
front-end.
So
with
a
lot
of
mobile
devices.
Different
connection
speeds.
How
do
we
optimize
and
make
sure
that
we
increase
conversions?
You
know
like
media
companies
will
be
looking
at
paywall
subscriptions.
The
people
have
been
incredibly
successful
with
react
doing
this,
despite
my
hate
for
es6.
I
did.
I
say
this
out
loud
yes,
but
react
has
been
very
successful.
Doing
that
there
is
the
replace
the
tech
stack
pattern.
E
There
is
let's
look
at
our
legacy
systems.
We
can't
really
migrate
them.
We
don't
really
know
what
to
do
with
our
mainframe.
We
have.
How
do
you
do
a
count
management
we
use
our
sink.
To
put
you
know,
XML
files
from
one
side
to
the
other
pattern,
but
actually
peak
season
is
coming
december
is
coming.
We
need
to
sell
and
it
would
be
good
for
a
website
not
to
be
down
all
the
time
pattern,
and
that
is
putting
note
in
front
of
all
these
legacy.
E
Api's
measuring
very
accurately
seeing
what
actually
as
a
benefit
or
not
to
the
business
and
then
say:
hey,
you
know
if
you
optimize
this
slice,
you
probably
have
twenty
percent
more
sales
are
still
going
to
go
down
a
bit
because
you
really
need
to
fix
the
mess
that
you
build
over
the
past
50
years.
But
some
people
are
familiar
with
this
pattern.
It
seems
what
can.
A
E
Interesting
people's
view,
I
think
it's
very
easy
to
our
talent
I
think
it's
very
easy
to
build
these
kind
of
infrastructures.
You
have
to
give
people
an
option
to
grow.
You
have
to
give
people
the
freedom
to
experiment,
and
you
have
to
have
in
your
organization's
and
ability
to
squeeze
the
part
of
the
s-curve
where
your
business
model
is,
but
also
to
create
enterprising
models.
E
Where
you
know,
people
that
are
more
willing
to
learn
faster
to
explore,
but
I
think
that
that
requires
a
very
thorough
and
quite
extreme
transformation
at
the
organizational
level
that
most
likely
the
CEOs
of
Europe
in
a
time
of
like
economic
risk,
are
not
willing
to
do
their
more
looking
at
cost-cutting
I'll.
Do
they
hire
well,
they
use
recruiting
agencies,
they
get
what
they
what
they
can.
They
don't
really
understand
the
difference
of
a
CV.
They
don't
understand
the
need.
Sometimes
they
go
like
a
while.
E
How
did
you
get
all
these
good
devs
and
like
well?
They
used
to
work
for
you,
and
what
do
you
do
about
that?
You
know
it's.
It's
like
they
left
because
all
these
conditions
didn't
exist,
but
it's
not
an
easy,
but
I
think
it's
easy
to
do
from
the
ground
up,
but
it's
easy
to
transform
in
because
it
requires
such
a
consistent,
deliberate
sponsorship
from
all
throughout
of
you
know
and
I'm
talking
about
companies
with
10,000
20,000
people.
So
I
just
think
it's
art
I'll.
Let
someone
else
take
the
mic,
but.
C
Aren't
we
seeing
like
quite
a
bit
of
some
big
organization?
That's
not
doing
node
and
then
some
small
pocket
of
it
like
starts
going
I
want
to
experiment
node,
and
then
they
have
some
success
and
then
spread
throughout
the
organization
as
well.
So
we,
rather
than
actually
hiring
in
there,
actually
like
spreading
node
throughout
the
organization
as
some
of
that
as
well
right.
G
Thing
I've
seen
in
Copenhagen
over
the
last
year,
actually
is
that
a
lot
of
old
school
like
really
big
week,
companies
I've
started
to
set
up
I
mean
they
know
this
problem.
They
know
that
you
guys
steal
all
their
the
employees
right,
so
so
they
set
up.
Basically,
laps
are
away
from
the
main
company
Lee
leo
pharma
have
done
this.
G
Who
knows
it
is
they're
gonna
succeed,
but
it's
it's.
It's
a
pretty
interesting
trend,
I
think
and
it
allows
developers
to
cycle
through
new
ideas
quicker
use,
new
technology,
whether
or
not
bound
to
like
in
Mercer
I.
Think
I
talk
to
some
guys
there
and
they
were
like
yeah
I
mean
if
you're
not
building
it
in
either
COBOL
java
or
c
you
allowed
to
do
it.
I
mean
that's
just
how
it
is
right
and,
and
what
do
you
say,
Mac
what
Mac
Linux,
what
like
windows
right,
yeah?
A
I'm
going
to
ask
two
more
questions:
I'm,
going
to
open
it
up
to
a
couple
of
guys
from
the
floor
just
to
kind
of
wrap
this
up
and
get
outside
because
I'm
starting
to
feel
like
I'm
going
to
pass
out
so
so
the
questions
I'm
going
to
ask
now
is
the
first
is
what
what
excites
you
about
node
coming
up
now
in
Europe?
What
what's
the
thing
that
you
guys
look
forward
to
in
terms
of
or
anything
and
then
I
guess?
A
The
second
question
going
to
tack
on
to
that
in
case
you
don't
have
anything
to
go
on.
The
first
one
is:
is
no
in
Europe
actually
a
thing.
So
if
you
look
at
remote-
and
you
look-
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
guys
in
Europe,
you
have
remote
gigs
for
customers
in
the
US,
these
guys
in
the
u.s.
work
for
customers
in
Europe.
Is
it
even
a
topic
that's
worth
debating
nowadays
or
are
we
living
in
a
world
now
where
geographical
boundaries,
based
on
this
kind
of
thing
no
longer
relevant?
A
C
C
G
What's
going
on
inside
the
core
note
and
give
and
I
think
this
is
actually
going
to
be
quite
important
for
the
enterprise
as
well,
because
they
people
coming
from
a
Java
background,
a
Python
or
Ruby
are
used
to
having
a
real,
deep
insights
in
what
goes
on
inside
your
application.
It's
really
hard
to
do
Brel
well,
in
a
note
due
to
the
nature
of
the
the
event
loop
and
the
single
process.
G
So
this
is
something
that
is
really
being
worked
on
together
with
Google
and
other
people.
So
it's
really
interesting.
I
really
look
forward
to
that
and
the
second
question:
oh-
and
we
do
yet
geographic
boundaries,
I,
I,
think
being
on
a
team
where
you
meet,
people
is
important.
I
see
people
face
to
face,
have
people
to
ask
questions.
You
can
do
that
apply
online.
Of
course
I
know
a
few
successful
people
who
do
this
online
in
our
company.
G
I
think
almost
a
half
of
the
people
are
none
danish
and
are
there
and
be
on
one
visa
or
another
thing
but
they're
in
the
office,
and
that
is
really
really
cool.
I
really
feel
that
that's
important,
but
you
can
do
remote
work.
We
do
that
also
some
some
thai
travel
a
lot.
So
I
could
be
gone
for
a
month
and
then
slack
is
really
helpful,
but
it's
nicer
than
come
back
and
see
people
and
have
a
beer.
D
Yeah,
what's
the
excitement
on
the
GS
next,
it's
like
the
asan
cook
thing,
because
it
will
allow
us
also
to
develop
this
kind
of
feature
of
tracing
transaction
and
also
like
the
performance
and
instruments
on
v8.
That
makes
like
no
GS
so
more
and
more
able
to
to
be
mbg
didn't
like
embedded
devices
and
with
less
memory
footprint,
the
cpu
usage,
more
performance
and
so
on.
D
F
Not
to
mention
only
technical
things,
we're
excited
to
see
that
now
there
is
a
lot
of
new,
not
comps
happening
again
like
what
we
had
in
London
what
we
are
going
to
have
in
Barcelona,
the
one
in
Budapest
in
January.
So
it's
really
great
to
see
that
more
and
more
not
come
even
if
a
single
day
single
track
events
are
happening,
it's
really
great
to
see
and
yeah.
It
would
be
great
if
you
could
go
home
and
start
organizing
yours
as
well
at
your
hometown.
So
let's
do
that.
I
It's
kind
of
a
two
questions
in
one
I
think
about
the
kind
of
direction
nodes
going
and
the
trend
of
what
nodes
being
used
for
as
someone
who's
always
been
in
back-end
developer.
I
haven't
really
got
an
experience
with
fronting
early
in
earlier
today.
In
the
keynote
from
Michael
was
talking
about
how,
in
the
early
days
there
was
a
talk
about
what
shouldn't
you
use,
node
for
and
it
was
like
things
like
gulp
and
like
front
end
right
and
now
it's
like
used
for
a
lot
of
stuff.
I
I
I
don't
know
if
it's
just
the
nature
of
the
work
that
I've
been
doing
last
couple
years,
but
I
didn't
see
much
node
work
going
on.
That
is
in
front
end.
I,
wonder
if
that's
just
so
first
question
in
your
experience
in
different
parts
of
Europe:
are
you
seeing
a
reduction
in
the
amount
or
in
the
in
know,
being
used
for
back
end
stuff?
I
G
See
that
it's
easy
to
get
that
impression,
I
would
say
you're
wrong,
I
would
say:
there's
a
lot
of
cool
stuff
going
on
both
in
back
end
node,
but
also
in
just
command
line
tools
in
this
tub
apps
with
electron.
Our
slack
is
built
in
electron,
etc
are
so.
Why
is
why
do
you
get
that
impression?
I
think
I.
So
I
think
there
is
a
ratio
on
on
github
with
github
stars.
So
if
you
make
a
front-end
framework
or
front-end
project
on
github,
you
get
ten
times
as
many
stars.
G
E
Mean
I
know
because
me
and
Luke
work
with
really
big
companies.
I
think
it
goes
back
to
that.
You
know
because
there
is
a
skills
gap
and
because
we
don't
do
enough
good
job
showing
that
the
tool
is
adequate.
You
have
to
remember
right.
It's
like
for
them.
Java
is
a
fishnet
is
a
fish.
Note
is
what
is
this
again
and
if
we
don't
educate-
and
if
you
don't
have
those
those
real
ways
to
to
engage
and
to
make
the
enterprise's
hire
successful,
then
it
becomes
much
harder.
E
The
company's
you
talked
about
and
all
those
projects
you
know
first
I
would
say
like
we're
doing
it
for
ten
years
with
whatever,
but
second,
those
are
in
the
US
and
in
the
u.s.
there's
a
very
different
attitude
to
risk,
while
in
here,
if
you
go
to
these
companies,
which
I
absolutely
think
it's
crucial
for
these
big
companies
of
Europe
to
thrive
and
to
be
successful,
there's
a
very
different
approach
and
that
approach
comes
normally
from
being
established
and
having
success
case
stories
and
those
exists,
but
they're
not
disseminated
and
the
facts.
E
E
When
we
do
comp
sci
for
the
people
that
do
come
sigh,
then
you
end
up
on
something
that
as
an
executive,
I
would
go
well.
Maybe
I'll
go
with
the
established
thing
I
will
take.
It
will
take
this
long,
but
that's
what
it
always
do.
So
that's
something
that
the
foundation
can
really
do
to
help
and
I.
Think
that's
why
you
know
those
come
there.
Are
those
products
but
they're,
mostly
san
francisco-based,
where
there's
an
appetite
for
risk,
but.
H
E
When
we
were
like
on
02
webos
was
built
in
node
right.
There
was
like
one
of
the
original
cases.
No
web,
alas,
was
much
before
thank
God
sold.
I,
don't
remember
the
story,
but
it
was
like
yeah
webos
yeah
and
it
was
all
node.
So
that
was
one
of
the
original
use
cases
funny
enough.
But
since
then
I
haven't
really
seen
it
I.
Think
Mozilla.