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B
Thank
you
all
right.
So
now
we
have
the
approval
of
the
minutes.
August
25th,
2021,
moved
by
commissioner
spitz.
Second
right,
commissioner
markham
all
in
favor
say:
aye
opposed
eyes
have
it.
Next
we
have
let's
approval
of
the
agenda
move
by
commissioner
spitz
seconded
by
commissioner
cabell.
Oh,
can
we
the
vote?
Please?
Oh
sorry,
we
have
to
do
the
vote.
D
B
D
A
A
A
B
I
apologize
to
everybody.
That's
waiting,
we're
just
trying
to
get
through
this
digital
new
agenda
items.
E
Sorry
about
that,
I
bet
you.
You
were
just
joined
into
a
previous
meeting
and
we
didn't
accurately
log
you
out
of
that
and
into
that.
A
A
A
E
Going
down
my
boat's
coming
they're
coming,
I'm
trying
to
miss
you
to
give
me
an
accurate
budget,
so
they're
pleased
with
the
number
that
we're
talking
about,
but
they're
still
trying
to
push
us
over
into
this
st
player,
county
macomb
county
deal
that
they're
doing
and
they're
waiting
on
home
county,
apparently
to
get
the
demonstration
for
the
employee.
All
right
who
do
I
need
to
kick.
E
A
B
A
E
B
Last
call
for
public
comment:
we'll
call
public
comment
closed.
Now
we
have
communications,
we
have
no
communications
consent
agenda.
We
don't
have
a
consent
agenda
now
we're
on
the
regular
agenda.
First
agenda
item
is
202:
okay,
2021
lake
level,
assessment
for
operation
and
maintenance
move
by
commissioner
spitz
second
by
commissioner
markham
good
morning
good
morning,
can
you
hear
me
yes
and
thank
you
guys
for
your
patience.
I
Oh
you're
welcome
you're
welcome
so
good
morning,
community
members,
this
first
item
on
the
agenda.
According
to
your
packet,
is
the
lake
level
assessments.
I
Again
we
bring
these
every
year
to
the
board
of
commissioners
for
approval
and
again
these
are
our
lakes
that
we
are
tasked
with
maintaining
and
there's
a
district
for
each
lake.
We
have
lake
level
technicians
that
go
out
on
a
regular
basis,
visit
each
of
the
sites
weekly
to
maintain
the
levels
that
are
established
legally,
as
well
as
do
work
on
the
on
the
structures
themselves
and
as
this
infrastructure
is
aging,
of
course,
you
know
it's
cost
more
money.
These
are
mechanical
structures
for
the
most
part,
and
you
know
require
maintenance.
I
This
year
we
are
bringing
29
different
districts
for
assessment
and
according
to
the
statute,
if
they,
if
the
assessment
exceeds
10
000,
that
requires
the
board
of
commissioners
approval
and
so
out
of
the
29
25
of
those
do
exceed
the
10
000.
We
always
bring
all
of
them
just
so
that
you're
aware
of
of
what's
being
assessed
out
there.
These
are
assessed
as
special
assessments
to
the
benefiting
property
owners
and
government
entities.
I
So
with
that
ryan
is
my
lake
level
engineer,
I
thought
he
might
just
touch
on
a
couple.
I
mean
we've
got
994
000
in
assessments
this
year
spread
over
those
29
districts
and
we
are
doing
quite
a
bit
of
work.
I
thought
he
might
just
highlight
a
couple
of
the
bigger
projects
that
we
have
ongoing.
F
B
Any
discussion
I
had
seen
them
from
the
committee
I
just
had
one
is
so:
are
we
doing
an
ongoing
inspection
on
the
current
dams
in
oakland
county
to
make
sure
we
don't
have
what
happened
in
midland.
F
So
all
of
our
dams,
the
way
they're
regulated,
we
have
to
inspect
them
fully
every
three
years
with
a
licensed
engineer,
and
then
with
that,
we
also
have
our
technicians
that
mike
said
go
out
on
a
weekly
basis.
So
if
there's
anything,
they
see
different
they'll
report,
that
to
me
and
I'll,
be
one
of
the
first
people
out
that
week
to
take
a
look
at
anything.
That
may
be
an
issue
all.
B
Right,
do
we
know
how
old
the
dams
are
in
oakland,
county.
F
B
B
H
B
I
Morning,
the
water
resources,
commissioner,
is
tasked
with
maintaining
these
chapter
four
drainage
districts.
These
are
primarily
your
edgar
were
originally
anyways
agricultural
districts
that
were
created
and
petitioned
for
by
landowners,
and
they
are
specially
assessed
again
to
the
benefiting
property
owners.
I
I
Again
we
look
at
these
every
year
and
see
where
our
budgets,
you
know,
have
taken
us
as
far
as
work
being
done
and
proposed
work.
Jeff
wilson
is
my
drain
engineer
and
so
jeff.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
highlight
a
couple
of
the
major
things
going
on
in
the
chapter
fours
sure.
J
You
know
normally,
I
have
emergency
repairs
to
talk
with
the
board
about,
but
this
year
we've
been
very
limited
on
emergency
repairs.
So
that's
a
good
thing.
So
a
lot
of
the
assessments
are
covering
ongoing
channel
maintenance.
Some
of
the
larger
ones
are
the
new
hudson,
the
paint
creek,
the
novian
lion
and
the
patterson
holly
drains.
We've
got
large
tree
removals
that
we're
removing
to
help
flow.
J
You
know
maintain
the
status
quo
out
there
and
we
have
a
couple
of
channel
cleanouts
where
we're
actually
digging
out
sediment
from
some
of
the
channel
bottoms
that
have
filled
up
over
the
years.
That
includes
the
yerkes
drain.
The
sinking
bridge
train
then
also
a
small
portion
of
the
paint
creek
drain
as
well,
so
we're
actually
out
there
digging
up
the
channel
and
and
just
making
sure
that
these
ditches
are
flowing
properly
and
not
causing
any
flooding
upstream.
H
J
We
do
usually
it's
spot
flooding
where
you
know.
There's
there's
typically
some
issues
either
upstream
of
the
drain
or
you
know.
Usually
it
has
something
to
do
with
a
grate
being
blocked
off
and
we're
out
there
inspecting
bar
screens.
So
that's
areas
where
the
open
channel
goes
from
an
open
channel
to
enclosed
pipe
and
we
have
a
grade
on
them.
J
We
go
out
and
inspect
those
before
every
storm,
but
if
there's
not
storms
about
once
per
month
and
a
lot
of
times
in
larger
flow
events,
what
ends
up
happening
even
if
the
grate
is
completely
clear,
a
lot
of
times
you'll
end
up
getting
woody
debris
from
upstream
different
twigs
and
logs
and
the
trash
that
will
end
up
on
the
grate
and
you
know
during
the
storm
can
end
up
blocking
it
off
a
little
bit.
J
So
you
do
get
kind
of
a
spot
flooding
situation,
but
you
know
in
terms
of
homes
a
lot
of
times,
they're
just
not
affected,
because
a
lot
of
times
there's
just
enough
buffer
area
where
you
know
you'll,
see
photos
of
of
water
bagging
up
on
people's
property,
but
not
so
much
making
it
into
homes.
So
we've
been
even
with
the
large
storms
this
year,
we've
been,
you
know
only
experiencing
you
know,
you
know,
even
though
we
have
lots
of
complaints,
we've
only
been
experiencing
non-property,
damaging
type.
H
J
J
We
were
having
a
problem
with
beaver
for
a
while
on
that,
one
and
then
last
year
and
a
half
for
whatever
reason
the
beavers
have
calmed
down
out
there.
So
that's
been
a
good
sign.
We
do
see
them
intermittently
through
a
lot
of
different
channels
throughout
the
county,
and
we
do
have
a
contracted
trapper
that
helps
us
out
and
you
know,
tries
to
catch
and
release
the
beaver.
And
then
our
crews
are
equipped
with
light
equipment.
Things
like
mini
excavators
and
backhoes
that
can
remove
some
of
the
tougher
blockages.
B
C
Yeah
how
you
doing
jeff
good
so
when
I
you
know
when
I
go
through
and
I
look
at
previous
assessment
and
then
this
year's
total
real
big,
real
big
swings.
I
mean
work's
been
done
so
you
know,
for
I
mean
when
you
a
lot,
a
lot
of
them
across
the
board
have
remained
the
same.
C
C
J
Yeah,
that's
correct,
and
so
what
we
do
is
annually.
We
go
down
a
list
of
what
we
know
is
an
issue,
and
then
we
also
look
at
what
was
spent
in
the
previous
years.
The
dream
code
caps
how
much
we
can
assess
outside
of
emergencies
existing.
So
I
kind
of
touched
on
emergencies
that
has
to
do
with
say
a
pipe
collapsing,
and
you
know
you
have
to
go
out
there
and
dig
it
up
and
that's
where
you
get
a
very
large
assessment.
J
J
So
what
you
end
up
doing
is,
if
you
have
a
large
maintenance
year,
that
assessment
ends
up
being
a
lot
more
than
what
an
ordinary
assessment
might
be,
because
you
might
be
capped
in
the
account.
The
amount
in
the
account
that's
allowed
to
be
held
is
actually
considered
one
year
of
maintenance
as
well.
So
that's
five
thousand
dollars
per
mile
of
drain.
So
say
you
have
a
a
four
mile
drain.
J
The
cap
on
the
assessment
is
twenty
thousand
dollars,
and
that's
also
the
cap
on
what
you
can
keep
in
the
account
so
to
an
extent,
what
you
end
up,
having
do
a
lot
of
times
is
spreading
some
of
the
maintenance
over
multiple
years
and
you
might
be
nearly
max
assessing
for
multiple
years,
but
you
will
see
a
lot
of
swings
in
the
assessments
when
you
do
that,
because
it's
not
a
consistent
number
that
we're
able
to
just
build
to
and
try
to
spread
and
calculate
over.
You
know
a
10-year
average.
J
C
When
I
see
the
auburn
hills,
rochester
hills,
troy,
bloomfield
township,
so
that's
25,
000
previous
year,
25
000
this
year.
So
is
that,
like
a
five
mile
drain,
where
you're
you're
doing
you've
got
you're
putting
in
the
5
000,
that's
your
5
000
per
mile
five
miles,
for
example,.
J
Yeah,
that's
correct
if,
if
you
have
the
specific
drain
name,
I
can
look
at
that
on
on
the
maintenance
and
operation
report
and
tell
you
that.
A
J
In
the
sprague
drain
we
had
there
was
a
project
that
we
started
around
the
end
of
last
year
and
then
followed
through
to
this
year,
where
they
actually
cleaned
out
about
900,
feet
of
channel
they'd,
fully
cleaned
and
grubbed
and
removed
a
bunch
of
sediment
and
hauled
the
sediment
off,
and
that
was
down
near
south
boulevard
and
coolidge,
and
so
they
were
kind
of
working
along
the
road
there
and
able
to
haul
things
out
and
there,
because
there
was
a
cap
on
what
we
could
spend
in
the
previous
year.
J
J
So
if
you,
if
you
keep
up
on
that,
you
really
get
a
good
plan
for
the
maintenance
on
these
things.
You'll
end
up
being
kind
of
near
that
cap
every
year
and
doing
the
necessary
maintenance,
because
that
one's
a
very
flat
drain
and
there
were
a
lot
of
complaints
from
up
in
rochester
hills
with
one
of
the
subdivisions
up
there
that
leads
into
that
sprag
drain.
So
you
know
slowly
kind
of
pick
away
at
some
of
these
things
within
the
maintenance
cap
and
you
know
you'll,
you
should
be
able
to
keep
up
on
them.
J
B
Thank
you
any
other
discussion.
One
question
I
had
is
so
the
drains
oakland
county
drains.
B
What
is
the
connection
to
the
farmington
farmington
hills
area?
I
know
early
on.
We
had
the
storms
earlier
this
year
we
had
the
floods
down,
that's
where
I
live.
Actually
my
basement
flooded
as
well,
so
just
wondering
because
it
was
a
two
times
flood.
I
was
only
fortunate
to
get
the
first
one,
my
neighbor
down
the
way
he
like
tore
up
his
basement,
got
it
redone
rained
again
and
then
had
to
then
he's
like
I'm
just
gonna
make
some
kind
of
like
bow
archery
range
in
my
basement,
because
I
can't
do
anything
down.
J
Yeah
there's
a
couple
of
drains
down
that
way,
although
most
of
farmington
hills
is
not
on
county
drains,
there's
only
there's
only
a
couple
in
there
kind
of
representing
a
small
percentage
of
the
land
area
down
that
way,
but
a
lot
of
times
there
are
other
issues
at
play.
When
you
start
getting
basement
backups,
you
know
a
lot
of
times
there's
you
know
it
could
be
power,
failures
and
sump
pump
issues
and
connections
out
to
maine.
J
You
know,
there's
all
all
sorts
of
things
really,
and
so
you
know
a
lot
of
the
drains
that
are
down
in
farmington.
Hills
are
more
like
the
main
rivers
that
kind
of
take
the
the
community
water
downstream
of
some
of
the
collection
systems,
we'll
call
them
that
are
kind
of
the
subdivision
level
drains
and
a
lot
of
times.
You
know
the
problems
are
upstream
of
the
rivers
themselves.
J
Okay,
thank
you.
Certainly,
if
you
want
to
ever
discuss
any
specific
property,
we
certainly
can,
because
you
know
we
have
everything,
mapped
out
and
good
relationship
with
the
cities,
and
you
know
work
with
them
directly
to
try
to
help
diagnose
these
things
so
feel
free
to
send
any
residents
our
ways.
H
B
I
Again,
good
morning,
once
again
again,
this
is
our
final
agenda
item
here
and
so
again.
Chapter
18
refers
to
a
chapter
in
the
michigan
train
code
and
under
chapter
18.
There's
really
only
two
communities
at
this
point
that
have
used
this
chapter,
which
would
be
west
bloomfield
and
oakland
township.
I
They
they
create
these
districts
whenever
a
new
development
is
is,
is
built,
and
so
the
storm
structure
or
the
storm
infrastructure
associated
with
that
becomes
a
county
drain
and
again
the
the
district
is
is,
is
assessed
for
it
a
lot
of
times
in.
In
these
cases
these
are
like
apartment
buildings
or
condominiums
or
or
others.
I
There
are
some
individual
ones,
but
these
are
fairly
fairly
new
compared
to
the
chapter
four,
but
but
similar
in
that
you
know
they
are
assessed
to
the
individual
property
owners,
and
you
can
see
there's
a
little
bit
less
work
going
on
in
these.
I
think
we've
got
a
total
of
311
000
and
some
change
jeff.
Is
there
anything
to
to
note
on
these
that
you
think
is
worthy.
J
Yeah
the
windham
point
drain
in
west
bloomfield
that
one
is
collecting
for
an
emergency
repair
that
had
occurred
in
2020,
and
so
what
we
had
done
was
there
was
an
emergency
we
went
out.
Our
contractors
had
fixed
it,
that's
a
situation
where
we
can
spend
above
the
statutory
limit.
However,
because
of
the
dollar
amount,
what
we
did
was
we
just
spread
the
assessment
rather
than
collecting
it
all
in
the
one
single
year.
J
We
spread
it
essentially
over
two
years,
so
it
was
an
over
about
a
45,
000
emergency
repair
and
you
see,
there's
twenty
two
thousand
dollars
in
2020
and
then
twenty
thousand
dollars
this
year
to
collect
that
back.
There
wasn't
a
lot
else
going
on
with
that
trade,
but
most
of
these
are
just
ordinary
maintenance
assessments.
There
really
again
weren't
a
lot
of
emergency
repairs
out
on
the
chapter
18
this
year,
even
with
all
the
storms.
So
that's
a
good
thing.
J
You
know
we
want
things
to
be
operating
and
you
don't
ever
want
a
collapsed
pipe
leading
to
water
backup.
You
know
we
want
to
make
sure
that
things
are
in
a
working
condition
and
then
you
know
things
handle
themselves
and
when
storms
do
come.
Things
flow
right
through
any
questions
about
the
chapter:
18s
commercial,
cavall,.
G
Thank
you,
chair,
hi,
jeff
and
mike,
if
I'm
understanding
this
right,
so
there's
going
to
be
a
levy
placed
on
people's
december
2021
taxes
for
the
cost
of
all
these
repairs.
Right,
that's
correct!
So
how
much
is
that
roughly
per
household,
and
is
this
something
that
goes
over
time
right?
Is
it
just
december
2021
or
is
this
something
that'll
show
up
for
a
few
years.
J
That's
a
good
question,
so
these
are
the
annual
assessments
that
we
come
to
you
guys
with
every
september,
and
these
are
these
assessment
districts
are
created
and
in
perpetuity.
Our
office
maintains
the
drains
and
assesses
for
the
maintenance
of
them
and
on
a
per
parcel
basis.
That
really
varies
among
each
of
the
drains,
because
all
of
the
drainage
districts
are
different,
shapes
and
sizes.
J
So
these
dollar
amount
totals
are
spread
among
the
parcels
within
the
district,
but
that
really
can
vary
on
what
the
average
is
for
each
assessment
district.
Some
of
them
are,
you
know,
very,
very
small,
as
10
houses
or
so
and
those
ones,
usually
you
don't
see
very
high
assessments
on
them,
but
others
are
much
larger.
Some
of
these
are
400
parcels
in
the
district,
and
you
know
those
ones.
The
average
is
certainly
a
little
bit
lower
when
you
have
that
much.
G
J
It
is,
let's
see,
it
would
be
the.
If
you
look
on
the
maintenance
and
operation
report
we
have
the
totals
and
then
the
previous
assessment,
although
previous
assessment
doesn't
sum.
However,
I
can
tell
you
that
the
previous
assessment,
the
2020
assessment
total,
was
378
729
and
this
year
we're
at
311
700..
J
So
they
went
down
by
roughly
60
000
now
because
it
went
down.
I
would
expect
the
next
year
for
it
to
go
up,
and
that
has
to
do
with
the
how
the
michigan
drain
coat
is
structured,
where
you
can
only
collect
for
the
the
maintenance
actually
spent
or
if
there's
something
anticipated.
You
can
put
a
little
bit
in
there,
but
it's
very
limited,
based
on
the
amount
that
you
can
actually
hold
in
a
single
account.
J
It's
not
like
a
a
sewer
utility
or
a
water
utility
where
it
makes
projections
over
a
long
period
of
time,
and
then
you
know,
tries
to
set
a
rate
based
on
that.
These
are
much
more
up
and
down,
depending
on
the
actual
spending
that
that
occur
within
the
district
and
that's
just
part
of
the
michigan
drain
code.
D
Thank
you.
This
is
really
not
related
to
these
drains.
But
since
I
have
you
here,
what
do
you
know
about
what's
happening
on
14
mile
road
in
nova
on
the
novi
walled
lake
or
a
commerce
border?
The
road
has
been
one
lane
all
summer
and
the
road
commission
says
it's
the
water
resources
commission,
that's
in
charge
of
that,
and
I
just
hear
from
the
residents.
So
do
you
have
any
thoughts
on
that?
Or
can
somebody
get
back
to
me
on
what
the
latest
status
is
on
that
project.
J
Yeah
sure
I
can
get
somebody
in
touch
with
you,
because
I
think
that's
a
water
main
project
and
I
can
I
can
have
somebody
from
our
projects
group
it's
if
it's
us
I'll
have
them
reach
out
to
you.
If
not
I'll,
give
you
a
contact
over
at
great
lakes,
water
authority.
D
H
B
B
B
A
D
I'll
just
yeah
comment
on
that,
so
that
whole
process
was
supposed
to
have
board
input
from
the
beginning,
and
it
came
so
far
down
the
road
that
I
you
know
it
almost
feels
like
we
didn't
have
a
lot
of
input,
but
they
were
able
to
air
what
we
wanted.
What
we
thought
was
important
and
needed
to
still
be
addressed,
and
they
assured
us
that
that
would
be
incorporated.
So
I
think
it
was
a
combination
of
things.
The
fact
that
we
weren't
involved
up
front
the
fact
there
were
some
changes
in
facilities.
D
B
A
G
Study
and
like
the
process
has
now
worked
out
like
I
get
that
part,
I
just
think
the
training
center
in
and
of
itself
isn't
a
good
idea
for
88
million
dollars
right
just
fyi,
okay,.