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A
15Th
and
the
time
is
9
33..
Let's
do
roll
call
please
Commissioners.
A
D
C
D
E
D
A
A
Just
a
moment
in
case
someone's
rushing
down
the
hall
all
right,
seeing
none
I
will
close
public
comment
access
to
item
number,
seven,
which
is
presentations.
We
have
under
under
item
a
water
resources.
Commissioner,
water
affordability
project
and
we
have
Jim
Nash
here
Kelsey
cook-
and
this
is
a
receiving
file.
F
G
H
Morning,
all
good
morning
always
good
to
see
everybody
we're
here
to
talk
about
the
affordability
program
and
I'm
just
going
to
turn
right
over
to
Kelsey.
I
I
Thank
you
very
much
so
to
kick
off
our
presentation.
I
like
to
start
with
this
Slide.
The
human
right
to
water
does
not
imply
that
it
should
be
free.
We
hear
a
lot
about
human
right
to
water,
especially
nowadays
and
I
work
closely.
Our
team
Works
closely
with
water
activists,
water
organizations,
various
people
across
the
state
of
Michigan,
and
we
there's
an
agreement
that
water
should
not
be
free.
However,
Public
Utilities
have
a
very
strong
role
in
playing
a
part
to
ensure
that
everybody
does
have
access
to
water.
I
Water
utilities
are
faced
with
a
trilemma
of
sorts,
so
we
need
to
invest
in
infrastructure,
maintain
affordability
and
have
fiscal
stability,
but
trilemma
results
when
all
three
things
cannot
be
done
equally,
and
so
we
have
to
weigh
the
challenges
that
are
before
us
to
try
to
balance
all
the
interests
involved.
So
that's
a
lot
of
what
our
office
is
faced
with
every
day.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
we
raise
enough
funds
to
be
able
to
me
to
be
able
to
operate
the
system
safely
and
efficiently
for
our
residents.
I
Excuse
me
so:
water
affordability
impacts
everyone,
it
impacts
every
Community,
there
are
households
and
every
single
community
in
Oakland
County
and
across
the
state
of
Michigan
who
cannot
afford
to
pay
their
water.
This
graphic
basically
depicts
that
that
these
this
is
a
challenge
we're
facing
Statewide.
I
This
is
our
cycle
of
affordability
or
even
unaffordability
rather,
and
so
you
can
kind
of
pick
any
part
in
the
cycle
to
start
it's
a
vicious
cycle
that
just
continues.
So
we
need
to
figure
out
how
to
step
in
and
make
a
change.
So
when
you
have
Rising
costs
which
we're
all
experiencing
today,
customer
water
rates
do
increase
more
customers
are
then
unable
to
pay
without
a
significant
hardship
and
basic
human
needs
are
unmet.
I
That
results
in
public
health
and
safety
risks,
Community,
Vitality
decreases
and
water
systems
are
impacted.
Thus
we
need
to
increase
costs,
so
this
is
what
our
offices
is
dealing
with
and
why
our
affordability
work
is
so
important
when
we
started
working
on
the
topic
of
water
affordability
about
two
years
ago,
we
kind
of
used
affordability
and
assistance
interchangeably
and,
as
we
worked
over
the
past
year,
it
really
became
obvious
that
there
is
a
big
difference
between
the
two.
So
this
slide
depicts
those
kind
of
definitions,
but
overall
assistance
is
something
that
is
short-term
relief.
I
I
Water
affordability
is
really
providing
people
with
a
water
bill
that
they
can
afford
to
pay
and
it's
a
long-term
long-term
and
requires
a
sustainable
solution.
To
maintain
that,
and
that's
our
biggest
challenge
it's
funding,
then
we
move
over
to
affordability
versus
equity,
and
so
water
Equity
means
that
all
communities
have
access
to
Safe
clean
water.
This
became
you
know
extremely
important
and
just
you
know
huge
awareness
of
this
in
the
covid-19
pandemic.
I
I
So,
as
we've
worked
on
water
affordability,
over
the
past
couple
years,
we've
had
a
lot
of
collaborative
Partners
in
your
packets
for
today,
as
our
water
affordability
report,
which
is
pretty
voluminous,
we
also
have
a
short
policy
paper
that
Sarah
authored,
which
is
much
easier
read,
but
we
worked
with
many
different
partners.
Here
are
some
of
them.
In
Michigan,
we
also
worked
with
Partners
Across,
the
Nation,
really
to
just
make
sure
that
we
knew
everything
that
all
the
resources
that
were
already
out
there.
I
So
as
part
of
our
report,
we
did
a
lot
of
research.
We
started
with
that.
So
there
are
numerous
reports
and
studies
Across
the
Nation
on
water
affordability.
So
we
probably
read
them
all,
and
then
we
followed
up
with
the
authors,
the
utilities
we
talked
to
utilities
from
California
out
to
New
York.
You
know
Washington
to
Florida
and
just
made
sure
that
we
understood
what
was
already
out
there
regarding
water
affordability,
because
we
didn't
want
to
reinvent
the
wheel.
I
We
then
knew
it
was
important
to
look
inward
to
our
community
members,
and
so
we
partnered
with
MSU
Extension
The
schret
Institute,
and
they
interviewed
our
residents
in
our
two
focused
communities
which
were
the
city
of
Pontiac
and
the
Charter
Township
of
Royal
Oak
and
interviewed
our
residents,
the
people
who
actually
pay
our
bills
to
find
out.
You
know
what
is
it
that
they're
looking
for
and
with
their
water
bill?
Did
they
even
know?
You
know
what
WRC
is
or
what
we
do,
and
so
that
was
really
informative.
I
We
then
worked
for
13
months
to
review
all
of
the
data
that
we
found
and
information
and
that's
how
we
generated
our
final
report
with
recommendations
for
affordability,
plans
for
the
city
of
Pontiac
and
the
Charter
Township
of
Royal
Oak.
But
our
recommendations
are
really
scalable.
So
we
submitted
our
report
to
the
state
of
Michigan
and
we're
hoping
that
those
utilities
across
Michigan
or
even
the
nation
can
read
it
and
kind
of
find
parts
of
what
we
discovered
that
might
work
for
their
Community,
whether
it's
large
or
small,
Urban
Suburban,.
I
The
most
one
of
the
most
important
parts
of
our
work
was
our
community
water
partnership.
So
even
before
we
started
really
kicking
off
our
affordability
report
work.
Commissioner
Nash
form
two
coalitions,
one
in
each
of
our
focused
communities,
so
we
had
a
water
affordability,
Coalition
in
Pontiac
and
a
water
affordability
Coalition
in
Royal,
Oak
Township,
and
some
of
our
first
meetings
were
really
just
creating
a
common
understanding
of
you
know
when
you're
looking
at
your
water
bill.
How
is
the
amount
that's
due?
You
know.
How
did
we
come
to
that?
How
did
we
create
that?
I
How
do
you
read
your
meter?
How
do
you
take
the
number
on
your
meter
and
convert
it
into
something
where
you
then
see
the
dollar
amount
on
your
bill?
So
how
do
you
conserve
water
to
lower
your
bill?
What
makes
up
rates
just
some
general
education,
understanding,
I
learned
a
lot
in
that
process,
as
well
as
our
residents
and
our
stakeholders
in
both
of
those
coalitions
there
are.
There
were
local
residents,
local
leaders,
elected
officials,
Community
Action
agencies,
legislators,
the
state
and
federal
level.
I
But
what
that
really
allowed
us
to
do
is
to
give
and
receive
constant
feedback
from
the
people
that
our
work
was
directly
affecting
also
allowed
legislators
and
water
activists
to
be
able
to
hear
and
weigh
in
even
if
they
didn't
live
in
the
community,
but
were
very
interested
in
the
topic
of
water
affordability.
They
could
hear
what
we
were
doing
each
month
where
we
were
going
next
and
ask
us
questions
clarify,
give
us
their
input
and
then,
before
our
final
report
was
done,
we
had
two
Town
Halls
one
in
each
of
our
focused
communities.
I
These
events
were
really
successful
foreign.
There
was
good
attendance,
a
lot
of
really
good
questions
and
people
overall
just
said.
You
know,
thanks
for
coming
out
we're
happy
you're
here
in
our
community
we'd
like
to
see
you
more.
So
that's
something
we
will
be
doing
more.
We
also
sent
a
letter
under
you
know,
from
Jim
Nash
to
every
single
customer
in
our
two
communities.
So
we
sent
out
25,
000
plus
letters.
We
just
wanted
every
person
to
be
aware
of
the
work
that
we
were
doing.
I
I
So
some
of
our
key
report
findings
were
that
the
problem
of
unaffordable
water
is
Statewide.
We
kind
of
started
with
that.
Michigan
voters
support
Statewide
water
affordability,
program,
The,
Nature,
Conservancy
did
a
poll,
and
this
this
was
supported.
There
was
actually
polling
questions
that
asked
about
putting
a
small
fee
on
every
public
water
system,
customer's
Bill,
to
basically
create
a
sustainable
funding
source
at
the
state
level,
and
that
was
favorable
as
well.
I
The
report
you
know
part
of
our
title
is
a
utilities
perspective
and
I
think
this
is
one
perspective
that
we
really
didn't
see
much
of
out
there
when
we
started
looking
at
all
the
resources,
there's
a
lot
of
perspectives
from
the
academic
world
and
the
water
rights
world,
and
just
a
lot
of
studying
and
went
into
that,
but
there
had
really
never
been
a
utility
who
studied
water,
affordability
and
kind
of
said.
Okay.
This
is
all
great,
but
unless
we
have
a
funding
source,
you
know
we
can
only
go
so
far.
I
So
then,
what
can
we
do
internally?
You
know
we
can
look
at
our
own
billing
procedures.
We
can
make
internal
changes.
We
try
to
leverage
resources
that
are
available,
but
we
really
need
help.
It
cannot
be
put
all
on
the
utility
to
solve
the
problem
of
water
affordability,
even
though
we're
the
ones
issuing
the
bill.
I
Water
Equity
starts
with
an
income-based
program,
so
the
Great
Lakes
water
authority
is
one
of
our
regional
partners,
of
course,
that
serves
most
all
of
Oakland
County
residents,
so
long
as
you're
connected
to
a
public
water
system
and
their
ramp
program,
which
is
the
water
residential
assistance
program
provided
25
a
month
toward
water
bills,
and
it
was
obvious
right
away
that
a
lot
of
people
didn't
sign
up
for
the
rap
program
because
25
to
them
was
not
going
to
make
a
difference.
They
still
were
not
going
to
be
able
to
afford
their
water
bill.
I
So
we
worked
with
the
Great
Lakes
water
authority
and
were
able
to
Advocate
to
have
them
kind
of
shift
gears
a
little
bit
and
make
it
income
based,
and
so
now
the
household
income
for
eligible
households,
which
is
up
to
200
of
the
federal
property
level,
is
considered
along
with
the
amount
of
the
water
bills.
So
this
is
a
much
more
Equitable
approach
to
providing
people
with
variable
discounts
that
result
in
a
water
bill.
That's
at
least
a
little
bit
more
affordable
for
them
to
pay.
I
I
So
these
are
our
affordability
plan
goals,
so
we
chose
the
language
here
pretty
carefully.
We
want
to
make
a
path
to
zero
shutoffs.
Commissioner
Nash
does
not
want
to
shut
anyone's
water
off.
Our
office
does
not
want
to
shut
anyone's
water
off
it's
an
awful
thing
to
do.
I
We
particularly
do
not
want
anyone's
water
to
be
shut
off
solely
for
the
fact
that
they
cannot
afford
to
pay
the
bill
and
I
know
it's
hard
to
zero
in
and
address
and
find
out
where
those
people
are
that
need
help,
but
we
need
to
plan
for
that
happening.
For
that
not
happening,
and
so
a
lot
of
our
work
is
to
offer
as
many
resources
as
possible
to
our
customers
so
that
they
can
have
options
to
be
able
to
pay
their
bill
and
it
doesn't
result
in
a
water
shutoff.
I
We
need
to
provide
quality
services,
that's
something
where
we
can
do
looking
internally
to
WRC.
How
can
we
improve
the
service
that
we
offer
our
customers
help
with
water
security?
So
are
there
other
resources
that
our
office
can
connect
our
customers
to
so
that
they
can
afford
to
have
the
funds
to
pay
their
water
bill?
We
need
a
sustainable
funding
source,
of
course,
and
then
again
the
community
water
Partnerships.
D
B
A
B
I
Let
me
know
so:
we
have
voluntarily
extended
the
water
water
shutoff
moratorium
to
through
2023
for
those
communities
who
are
significantly
overburdened
the
city
of
Pontiac
and
the
Charter
Township
of
Royal
Oak,
so
with
Royal
Oak.
That
is,
you
know,
in
conjunction
with
their
Township
supervisor
and
manager,
for
the
city
of
Pontiac
under
commissioner
Nash's
Direction.
So
we
are
not
doing
any
water
shutoffs
this
year.
I
We're
working
to
increase
enrollment
in
the
rap
livewap
and
access
H2O
program.
So
the
wrap
is
the
Great
Lakes
water
authority,
water,
residential
assistance
program.
Lywop
is
low-income
household
water
assistance
program,
that's
Federal,
funding
for
past
due
bills
and
axis
H2O
is
a
new
partnership
that
we
have
where
eligible
households
can
apply
for
water
bill
assistance,
so
we
really
want
to
show.
We
know
that
need
is
there,
but
we
want
to
show
that
the
funds
are
being
used
as
well.
So
we
want
that
to
match
so
we're
doing
a
lot
of
Outreach
in
that
regard.
I
We've
created
the
Oakland
County
WRC
hardship
assistance
program.
So
this
is
a
program
that
needs
funding,
but
once
it's
up
and
running,
we've
partnered
with
United
Way
for
Southeast
Michigan,
and
it
will
provide
up
to,
for
example,
up
to
three
months
of
bill
assistance
for
someone
who
suffered
a
hardship
past
due
balance,
a
rearage,
Assistance
or
plumbing
repair
assistance,
and
this
program's
target
audience
are:
is
people
that
don't
qualify
for
other
Assistance
programs,
but
still
struggle
to
meet
their
daily
needs
with
the
income
that
they
do
have?
I
I
We're
having
our
water
affordability,
Coalition
meetings
quarterly
now
into
Mars,
leading
those
just
to
keep
our
stakeholders
up
to
date.
We
have
a
water
affordability,
web
page
and
we're,
of
course,
always
applying
for
as
many
local
state
and
federal
grant
opportunities
as
possible
for
our
infrastructure
projects,
it's
kind
of
our
path
to
water
affordability
strategy.
So
someone
asked
me,
you
know
what
can
I
do
today
to
receive
a
more
affordable
water
bill.
This
is
what
I
would
tell
them.
I
They
could
call
United
Way
who's,
our
Oakland
County
service
provider
to
be
they
will
help
them
through
determining
what
they're
eligible
for
and
connect
them
with
these
assistance
funds.
Essentially
so
the
low
income
household
water
systems
program,
you
can
get
a
rear,
edge
assistance.
This
funding
does
expire
at
the
end
of
September.
I
We
don't
qualify
for
those
something
happens.
We
have
a
hardship
fund
and
then,
if
you
still
have
a
past
due
balance,
we'll
offer
flexible
payment
plan
options
and
then
connect
our
customers
to
other
resources
as
needed,
and
then
here's
some
more
information
on
our
hardship.
Assistance
program
that
I
talked
about
a
little
bit
already
just
kind
of
goes
through
the
different
hardships
that
we
would
consider.
But
it's
pretty
flexible
and
it's
going
to
be
a
self-attestation.
So
people
don't
have
to
prove
that
something
is
going
on
with
them.
I
They
can
call
United
Way
be
screened
for
it
and
say
this
is
what's
going
on
in
my
life.
Here's
my
income
I,
just
can't
get
by
I,
need
some
help
and
get
approved
for
these
funds
and
what
is
the
proposed
affordability
plan?
So
we
have
a
short-term
and
long-term
kind
of
aspects
to
that.
So
short
term.
Is
we
want
to
use
all
the
existing
pro
programs
that
are
out
there?
We
know
that
we
could
spend
every
dollar
that
we
are
given.
I
It's
just
a
matter
of
getting
the
money
to
people
and
there's
a
trust
issue
between
utilities
and
the
customers.
We
serve
and
a
lot
of
other
things
going
on
that
are
contributing
factors
to
why
people
don't
reach
out
for
help
when
they
need
it,
but
our
job
is
to
kind
of
get
out
in
the
communities
and
make
the
resources
known.
So
we
can
show
look
we're
using
all
this
money
that
we're
given.
We
need
more.
I
We
need
something
bigger,
that's
our
long-term
goal,
so
we
would
like
to
see
Statewide
legislation
that
creates
a
water,
affordability
policy
and
program
and
then
also
a
funding
source.
The
energy
side
of
the
utilities
already
has
this
DTE
and
consumers.
Has
this
there's
nothing
for
water,
so
we
just
want
the
same
thing
for
water,
so
we're
also
working
on
that
effort.
I
Senator
Chang's
office
is
really
involved
in
this,
and
so
we
are,
we've
been
in
many
meetings
with
her
and
Senator
Rosemary
Bayer
as
well
to
help
shape
what
that's
going
to
look
like.
It
seems
like
there
will
be
some
type
of
water
affordability
legislation
passed
possibly
this
year,
we're
just
over
there
constantly
waving
like
hey.
We
need
to
be
able
to
fund
this,
so
we
really
need
that
sustainable
funding
source
and
our
proposal
is
to
add
a
small
fee
on
everyone's
Bill
less
than
a
dollar.
I
I
People
first
policies
means
our
internal
billing
policies,
so
we're
in
the
process
of
figuring
out
how
we
can
help
more
people
and
be
better
in
our
customer
service
Realm
by
looking
internally,
because
that's
something
we
do
have
control
over
Communications
and
public
Outreach
to
Mars,
taking
the
lead
on
that
just
getting
out
into
the
communities
and
then
our
Capital
replacement
and
maintenance
programs.
I
This
is
something
that
WRC
has
done
a
really
good
job
with
for
a
really
long
time,
just
ensuring
you
know
good
investment
in
the
money
that
we
do
have
to
best
maintain
the
systems
that
we
operate
for
our
County
communities.
I
A
Thank
you
appreciate
that
I
do
see.
Commissioner
long
has
indicated
she'd
like
to
speak
I.
C
Did
the
request
so
I
have
a
couple
questions.
So
United
is
2-1-1
United
Way
number?
Yes,
okay,
that
so
that
they'll
get
redirected
that
way:
okay,
perfect
and
then
I
like
the
program
but
I'm
worried
about
how
much
right
now
currently
does
Pontiac
and
burrow
Oak,
oh
in
water
bills,
I
do
not
want
it
to
become
like
Highland
Park,
another
nightmare
with
everyone.
You
know
us
funding
all
their
cities
and
water
yeah.
I
So
they
don't
owe
any
so
we
collect
everything
we
Bill.
Okay
and
the
reason
is,
is
because
we
certify
it
to
the
tax
roll,
so
it
does
get
collected.
So
our
effort
is
just
to.
We
don't
want
people
to
have
to
have
their
water
bills
certified
to
the
taxes,
because
they
end
up
paying
a
lot
more
when
it
turns
over
to
taxes,
so
we're
trying
to
give
them
resources
so
that
it
just
doesn't
get
there.
Okay,.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
I
have
two
questions.
First,
one
is
so
when
GW
glwa
and
dwsd
did
their
transfer.
There
was
25
million
dollars
at
when
it
was
supposed
to
go
into
infrastructure.
Does
that
spill
over
to
the
outside
communities,
or
is
that
just
for
Detroit
and
then
the
other?
The
second
question
is:
is:
do
you
have
some
bullet
points?
I
actually
have
a
meeting
with
Winnie
Brinks
this
afternoon.
That
I
can
talk
to
her
about.
H
That
all
happened
for
the
city.
What's
happened
with
that
we
they
were,
they
were
you
mean
through
the
legislation
or
was.
J
It
no,
it
was,
it
was
the
negotiation.
I
was
there
when
it
was
going
on
and
that's
there
was
25
million
for
replacement
of
infrastructure
right.
That
gliwa
was
on
the
hook,
for
you
know
that
was
like
the
deal
like
you
get
this,
but
we
get
this
right.
So
does
that
spill
over
into
any,
because
I
know
infrastructure
costs
right.
So
when
utilities
fix
things,
it's
on
the
owners
of
the
people
that
get
the
utilities
right
so.
H
I
Can
definitely
look
into
that,
though,
and
follow.
H
The
county
so
she's
very
good
on
that
so
I
could
we
could
reach
out
to
her
and
see
what
she
says.
I
it's
been
a
while
since
I've
talked
to
her
about
that.
So
thank
you
to.
G
Commissioner
Johnson,
thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you
all
for
for
coming
today.
It's
good
to
see
you
all
two
questions,
one,
extending
the
moratorium
on
shutoffs
through
2023
to
study
how
the
program
affects
everything
I'm
just
curious.
Are
you
worried
at
all
about
confounding
factors
of
additional
coveted
monies
being
in
people's
pockets?
Student
loan
deferment
affecting
people's
ability
to
pay
extraordinarily,
when
that's
normally
a
big
concern
for
a
lot
of
households.
That
kind
of
thing.
I
Yeah,
that's
a
good
question
so
that
I
mean
yeah,
as
even
for
our
affordability
work
we
kind
of
took
you
know
we
looked
at
2018
19
and
then
you
know
2021.
We
have
like
an
asterisk
spy
because
you
know
it's
covid
and
then
it's
also
like
you
said
the
influx
of
extra
funding.
Where
you
know
people
would
use
that
for
their
water
bills.
I
So
we're
going
to
take
2023
and
see
how
it
goes.
I,
don't
think,
commissioner
Nash
you've
made
any
decision
about
resuming
shutoffs
at
this
point
either.
So
we'll
definitely
have
to
take
that
into
consideration
and
just
see
because
you're
right,
there's,
probably
more
money
right
now
available
to
pay
for
bills,
but
we're
tracking
everything
to
see
you
know
exactly
kind
of
what
the
data
is
showing
us.
So
I'm.
G
Sure,
like
everything
like
five
years,
is
a
good
data
sample,
except
that
the
last
five
years
have
been
very
weird,
so
so
I
get
that
on
legislation.
That's
a
really
neat
idea,
and
you
mentioned
Senators
Chang
and
Bayer.
Do
you
have
any
house
partners,
friends.
H
I
have
well,
we
have.
We've
talked
to
the
to
to
my
our
you
know:
legislators
from
Oakland
County
and
most
of
them
that
I've
talked
to
have
been
very
supportive
on
a
bipartisan
basis.
So
there's
there's
been
significant
support
for
this
and
I.
H
Think
few
people
understand
it
just
Troy
for
an
example,
it's
about
12
percent
of
the
ratepayers
could
qualify
because
they're
already
by
the
EPA
standard
at
a
problem
with
affordability,
12
I
mean
that's
more
than
most
people
would
think
yeah
and
some
communities
I
mean
Royal.
Oak
Township
well,
over
50
percent
have
are
have
issues
with
affordability
in
in
Pontiac.
It's
about
35,
so
some
communities
with
a
significant
problem
and
that's
why
we
recognized
early
on
that
utilities
can't
do
it
themselves.
H
I
mean
a
small,
a
community
with
two
or
three
percent
of
affordability
problem.
You
know
Birmingham
that
they
might
not
have
an
issue.
They
could
transfer
things
around
without
anybody.
You
know
having
any
significant
impact
on
their
bills,
but
a
community
that
has
35
55
percent.
They
just
couldn't
do
that
I
mean
to
make
it
affordable
for
some.
Almost
everybody
else
would
be
on
affordable.
So
it's
it's!
H
It
has
to
be
that
outside
Source
we
recognized
early
on
too,
if
we're
doing
it
on
a
state,
a
Statewide
basis,
it
can
be
a
very
small
amount
unless
than
a
dollar
should
be
able
to
do
it.
I'm
thinking,
you
know,
as
we
build
this
up,
we
could
start
out
with
like
33
cents
and
50
and
then
go
up
to
maybe
75
cents
or
90.,
but
I
don't
see
it
be
going
beyond
that.
H
The
legislature
several
weeks
ago
now
passed
25
million
dollars
towards
affordability
towards
anti-shot-off
programs,
so
they
recognize
eyes
already.
They've
shown
that
we've
worked
with
many
groups
across
Michigan
Municipal
league
is
very
interested
in
this
they've
been
working
with
us
long
before
the
the
new
legislature
came
in.
So
there's
a
lot
of
interest
all
over
the
state.
Everybody
recognizes
that
communities
have
a
problem
with
this
really
the
most
important
thing.
It
affects
the
true
cost
of
service.
H
We
have
to
recognize
the
true
cost
of
service
is
making
sure
all
our
systems
work
that
they're
kept
up
to
date,
that
that
we
we
have
a
good
asset
management
program,
but
at
the
same
time,
if
we
that
has
an
impact
on
the
rate
payers,
because
that
all
costs
money.
So
we
need
to
do
this
in
a
way.
That's
going
to
make
sure
that
everything
is
always
recognized
that
balance
is
kept.
We
need
to
keep
it
affordable.
H
We
need
to
do
all
the
work
that
we
need
to
do
so
that's
where
we
are
and-
and
this
will
help
us
do
that,
because
that
that
extra
outside
income
that
subsidy-
that
will
that's
what's
going
to
allow
these
systems
to
really
work.
Thank.
K
You,
commissioner,
Johnson
also,
we
do
have
Partners
in
the
house
as
well.
Brenda
Lawrence
has
been
very
supportive
of
the
program.
I'm
part
of
me,
Brenda
Carter,
has
been
very
supportive
of
the
program.
Commissioner
Nash
has
met
with
her
several
times
and
had
several
discussions
with
her.
We
also
met
with
representative
Tom,
as
well
as
representative
Sharon
McDonald,
before
they
were
officially
sworn
in
the
office
because
they
were
very
interested
learning
about
the
program
as
well.
K
Senator
Chang
has
a
stakeholder
group
right
now
that
is
working
on
collecting
a
wide
range
of
perspectives
on
how
to
have
a
a
water
bill
package
put
together.
That
would
be
able
to
be
presented
to
the
house,
then,
and
and
hopefully
past,
near
identical
legislation.
So
we
do
have
Partners
in
the
house
as
well.
L
So
I'm
interested
in
first
of
all,
how
are
you
going
to
expand
to
further
communities
because
Pontiac
and
Royal
Oak
Township
are
obviously
our
most
distressed,
but
there
are
plenty
of
other
people
all
over
Oakland
County
that
have
water
affordability,
issues
that
may
not
be
as
visible
right.
So
how
what's
your
plan
to
roll
this
out?
Further,
that's
my
first
question
and
then
the
second
relates
to
sustainable
funding.
L
You
know
and
they're
related
so
but
before
that
I
just
want
to
say
this
was
a
really
good
presentation
and
I'm
glad
that
you're
working
so
deeply
on
this
subject
and
across
the
state,
because
it
is
an
issue
for
everyone
and
I've.
Always
you
know
when
I
first
started
getting
involved
in
politics
and
serving
the
community
and
all
that
I
thought.
How
can
everybody's
got
to
have
water?
L
That's
just
fundamental:
everybody
has
to
have
water
or
they
die,
and
so
I'm
really
grateful
that
you
are
digging
really
deep
to
try
and
make
this
something
that's
going
to
be
sustainable
going
forward.
So
those
are
my
two
questions:
how
are
you
going
to
expand
it
and
how
you're
going
to
make
it
sustainable?
Yeah.
I
Thank
you
so
much
so
as
far
as
expanding
it
goes.
First
of
all,
this
live
funding.
That's
out
there.
There
are
communities
in
Oakland
County
that
have
not
signed
an
agreement
with
Ulsa.
It's
a
couple
pages
and
they're
calling
Olsa
saying:
hey
I
need
this
assistance
and
also's
like
sorry,
your
community
hasn't
signed
up.
So
we
have
a
list
of
those
Oak.
I
First
was
an
opt-in,
so
a
community
had
to
sign
up
now
with
the
changes
you
have
to
opt
out.
So
it
applies
to
every
Community,
which
is
great,
so
United
Way,
just
at
a
press
conference
I
think
it
was
two
weeks
ago
or
maybe
even
last
week
to
officially
launch
their
new
income
based
program,
which
I
think
will
encourage
a
lot
more
people
further
the
ramp
program.
If
you
have
a
senior
citizen
in
the
home
or
a
person
with
a
disability,
a
disabled,
they
they
can
be
on
the
income-based
water
bill
program
indefinitely.
I
Otherwise
it's
just
two
years
so
I
think
getting
the
word
out
across
the
county,
especially
for
our
seniors
and
our
households
that
qualify
for
that
rap
Infinity
program
is
really
helpful.
We
have
been
going
and
trying
to
I
guess:
connect
with
each
local
municipalities,
Communications
person,
so
I
did
a
similar
presentation
at
a
council
study
session
for
the
city
of
Farmington
Hills
and
now
we're
working
with
the
city
of
Farmington
Hills
communication
person
because
they're
interested
and
so
it's
you
know
every
step
we
can
take
forward
to
just
better
communicate
it
out.
I
You
know
we
did
focus
on
Pontiac
and
Royal
Oak
Township
for
our
affordability
work
just
for
the
obvious
reasons,
but
it
is
an
Oakland
County
matter
and
so
yeah
we're
now.
You
know
we're
kind
of
running
those
communities
as
like
our
pilot,
but
then
we'll
be
able
just
to
make
sure
it's
successful.
That's
where
the
biggest
reach
is
at
the
moment,
but
any
Community
who's
interested
in
in
talking
to
us
I.
I
Think
one
of
the
next
things
we
can
do
as
well
is
to
hold
informational
sessions
with
kind
of
the
communications,
people
or
the
you
know,
managers
or
supervisors
from
each
of
the
local
municipalities
just
to
bring
them
up
to
speed.
We
are
sharing
out
information
from
the
United
Way
and
from
rap
Whenever.
There
are
Town
Halls,
a
lot
of
them.
Them
are
virtual
and
making
sure
that
all
of
our
local,
you
know
officers
electeds
and
are
invited.
So
it's
a
I
wish
we
could
move
faster
than
we
are.
I
Sometimes
it
seems
like
it's
really
slow,
but
we
are
definitely
taking
steps
to
make
sure
that
all
of
Oakland
county
is
supported
as
much
as
they
can
be
by
our
office
as
well,
even
for
those
customer
communities
that
we
don't
operate
and
maintain.
We
can
still
relate
to
them
because
we
do
the
same
type
of
work
that
their
public
works
department
does.
L
I
I
So
what
I'm
seeing
is
a
lot
of
the
water
Advocates
across
the
state
really
want
to
say
you
know
here.
If
we
just
make
it
legal
that
you
can
do
an
affordability
program,
you
could
figure
it
out.
You
can
charge
some
people
less
more
to
charge
other
people
less
and
when
we
looked
at
that
with
Pontiac
Royal
Oak
Township,
it
doesn't
work
because
where
do
you
cut
it
off
and
when
you
start
charging
some
people
more,
they
can
afford
it.
Then,
all
of
a
sudden
they
can't
afford
it
anymore.
I
So
it's
just
too
much
of
a
gray
line.
So
we
really
don't
want
the
sustainability
part
of
it.
As
far
as
water
affordability
goes
to
be,
you
know,
kind
of
utilities
to
be
like
here
go
ahead
and
handle
it.
So
that's
why
the
Statewide
effort,
and
just
having
like
a
Statewide
pot
of
money,
is
the
only
solution
that
we've
heard.
That
we
think
is,
you
know,
could
be
workable,
but
you
know
also
just
encouraging
any
Community
for
all
the
infrastructure
investment
that
needs
to
happen
to
continuously
seek
out.
I
You
know
the
principal
forgiveness
loans
and
the
grant
opportunities.
Sometimes
it's
difficult
to
to
you
know,
work
through
those
principal
forgiveness
loans
because
of
all
the
steps
you
have
to
take,
because
it's
still
a
loan.
Even
when
the
you
know,
principles
were
given,
but
that
really
does
help
take
those
expenses
off
of
the
rate
payers
and
every
little
bit
helps
so
I
hope
that
answered
your
question.
Yeah
yeah.
Thank
you.
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
for
the
wonderful
presentation.
I
think
it's
my
second
go
around,
so
I
really
appreciate
all
the
information,
a
lot
of
good
good
stuff
in
there.
As
far
as
the
increase
I
know
you
had
mentioned
starting
off
at
like
33
cents,
you
know
to
trial
it
out
and
see
and
then
go
from
there
do
we
have
a
time
frame
for
when
we're
hoping
to
implement
this
and
kind
of
move
forward,
or
what
does
that
look
like?
Yes,.
H
We
were
waiting
for
the
legislation
to
seize,
to
see
if
it
goes,
I
mean
once
it
once
it
goes,
and
something
is
allowed
to
be
set
up.
I
think
I
think
we
can
start
really
quick.
Senator
Chang
pointed
out
that
you
know
for
a
lot
of
the
very
small
utilities
all
over
the
state.
They
might
have
a
very
hard
time
doing
that
so
she's
talking
about
doing
something
at
the
state
level
that
could
do
it
for
the
small
communities
and
then
allow
the
bigger
communities
of
the
communities
that
have
much
more
interest.
H
H
So
that's
why
we've
been
looking
and
we've
been
getting.
Thankfully,
these
can't
call
them
earmarks
to
do
those
kind
of
projects
in
these
communities
that
just
can't
afford
it
otherwise,
and
that
outside
money
is
desperately
needed,
Pontiac
65
to
70
percent
of
their
infrastructure.
When
we
came
in
they're
underground
infrastructure
between
80
and
120
years
old,
this
is
old
infrastructure.
That's
got
to
be
replaced
and
under
the
current
way,
it's
been
done
for
many
many
years.
Is
that
repairs
pay
for
everything?
There's
just
no
outside
funding?
H
You
know
back
in
the
90s.
They
pretty
much
eliminated
the
earmarks
and
early
odds,
so
they're
bringing
them
back,
and
that
helps,
but
we
need
something
chromatic,
so
programmatic,
that
is
there.
What
I'm
thinking
is
you
know
this
is
we're
starting
off
from
scratch,
so
33
cents
per
bill
should
be
enough
to
as
we
as
we
build
it.
As
we
get
more
people,
then
it
could
go
up
higher,
but
I
think
we
start
out
small
and
that
way
it's
basically
nobody
would
even
notice
it.
It's
changed.
M
H
So
all
right,
they're
not-for-profit
and
you
can't
use
any
funding
for
anything
outside
the
organization,
so
you
can't
bleed
it
off
for
other
things
in
government
and
right
vitally
important
that
that's
true.
So
this
is
it
that's
how
we
keep
the
the
trust
of
the
people
is
that
every
dime
comes
in
right,
goes
out
to
them
and
there's
nothing
in
between
exactly.
D
H
This
industry
has
never
had
that
we
could
find
any
kind
of
long-term
affordability
program
anywhere.
I
mean
it's
just
never
been
done
so
I
think.
If,
if
this
legislation
succeeds,
this
would
be
that
we'd
be
the
first
state
in
the
country
to
have
a
Statewide
affordability
program
and
I.
Think
a
lot
of
States
would
want
to
follow
that.
It's
just
it's
going
to
make
sense.
H
It
really
is
going
to
make
sense
and
I
think
we
played
a
role
in
that
so
and
I
got
to
say
these
folks
here
and
the
other
people
on
my
team
have
just
been
amazing
working
at
this.
It's
again,
it's
been
almost
two
years
since
we
started
this
really
and
they've
just
been
doing
an
amazing
job.
These
three
here
plus
the
other
folks,
have
been
working
on
it.
H
Most
of
you
know:
Julia
Ruffin,
Trisha
bruzik,
as
our
communications
director,
one
of
my
former
managers,
Tim
prince,
who
retired
wanted
to
stay
on
part-time,
just
to
work
on
this
project
because
he
loved
it.
So
much
that
and
Demar
said
it
best
that
as
a
labor
of
love,
we're
trying
to
do
good
works
and
it
shows
and
people
people
want
to
believe
that
we're
doing
the
good
thing
and
working
together
we're
going
to
get
it
done.
A
A
The
other
thing
and
then
we'll
we'll
wrap
up
this
presentation
was
just
simply
would
it
be
helpful
if
we,
like
you,
know,
letter
writing
still
a
thing
for
legislators
and
things
we
would
be
happy
to
just
advocate
for
you
all
from
this
committee.
If,
if
there's
you
know
any.
H
Advocacy
would
be
warmly
welcomed.
We
need
a
gr,
we
need
a
broad
Coalition
of
people
and
we
are
we're
working
all
across
the
state.
We've
worked
with
Grand
Rapids
and
Kalamazoo,
and
just
everybody
around
the
state
recognizes
the
problem
and
we're
all
working
in
a
good
way.
So
that's.
L
A
Know
at
least
we
made
our
Point
made,
so
thank
you,
commissioner
Nash,
and
we
can
receive
and
file
I'll,
entertain
a
motion
to
receive
and
file.
This
Dr,
commissioner
Rahman
Mr
Johnson.
B
He's
trying
to
okay
so
long,
refreshing.
B
K
E
A
Is
the
regular
agenda
and
we're
still
in
meetings
we're
still
in
a
meeting
commissioner.
A
Well,
I'm,
not
stepping
nowhere
I
know
so
we're
going
to
welcome.
Thank
you,
move
and
supported
by
moment.
A
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair
good
morning,
everyone
good
morning
all
right
here
with
a
significant
grant
for
Oakland
County
International
Airport
awarded
through
the
arpa
funds
in
the
amount
of
148
thousand
dollars,
and
we
are,
as
always,
administered
through
the
state
of
Michigan
Department
of
Transportation
as
a
block
grant
state.
But
these
are
FAA
programs
and
we're
excited
to
receive
these
fundings
to
offset
some
of
the
expenses
that
were
incurred
during
the
pandemic.
D
C
L
Yes,
I
just
want
to
say
that
you
are
really
good
at
looking
for
and
bringing
home
money
for.
B
Yes,
wiper,
yes,
Markham,
yes,
Miller!
Yes,.
J
J
D
A
E
Mvll
represents
Oakland
Troy
airport,
so
the
exact
same
program,
arpa
funds
in
that
dollar
amount
is
59,
000.
A
A
32
000.,
thank
you.
Mr
weipert
wanted
to
make
sure
his
community
knew
he
was
standing
up
for
them
today.
So
is
there
any
discussion
on
this
particular
one?
Let's
go
ahead
and.
A
J
A
N
You
basically,
this
is
a
renewal
of
the
contract
to
maintain
the
grounds
around
that
building,
which
is
you
know
own
or
run
by
the
army.
So
in
the
past,
I've
talked
with
their
property
manager,
the
Army's
property
manager
and
they
have
contractors
and
they
had
some
trouble
and
then
a
couple
of
years
ago,
all
of
a
sudden,
the
property
wasn't
looking
good
and
grass
was
long
and
it
wasn't
maintained
and
I
called
them
and
they
said
well
yeah.
N
We
had
some
trouble
with
our
contractor
one
thing
or
another:
do
you
guys
want
to
do
it
so
the
county
when
we
talked
to
art
at
the
time
again?
This
was
about
five
years
ago
and
Mark
Baldwin
said
sure
we'll
do
it.
So,
basically,
we
went
through
their
process,
which
is
this
intergovernmental
agreement
that
they
had
for
services
and
the
counties
charging
the
Army
we're
getting
paid,
and
it's
easy
because
it's
right
across
the
street,
so
maintenance
works
out
well
and
the
property
looks
good.
N
It's
a
land
lease,
so
the
county
has
leasehold
interests.
The
county
doesn't
own
it
outright.
J
Okay,
so
I
was
just
because
I
know
it's
just
curious
as
a
federal
Enclave
property
I'm
versed
in
this
stuff.
So
it's
so
the
GSA
there's
GSA
funding
right
there.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
these
dollar
amounts
align
with
the
GSA.
The
general
service
contract
act
dollar
amount
that
they
pay.
That
they're,
when
they
put
out
for
bid
right,
make
sure
the
County's
getting
the
same
as
a
normal
contractor
would
get.
N
D
J
J
J
M
You,
madam
chair,
just
one
clarification
point.
I
know
we
had
talked
about
something
very
similar
last
month.
Is
this
the
same
property
and
we're
just
doing
a
slightly
different
I
just
want
to
get
some
clarification
on
that
because,
as
I
was
looking
at
the
maps
and
everything
and
reviewing
in
preparation
for
today,
it
looked
very
similar
to
what
we
had
looked
at
previously
or
I'm,
not
sure
with.
A
Groundskeeping
for
because
I
this
is
familiar
to
me,
but
I'm,
not
sure
yeah,
because
we
had
a
side
meeting
to
get
some
understanding
of
this.
But
I
don't
recall
this
particular
piece
coming
in
committee.
C
N
C
D
A
F
Thank
you,
I'm
Todd,
Burkle
and
I'm.
The
manager
of
Support
Services
we're
fairly
new
to
this
committee.
We
merged
with
facilities
last
year,
so
this
I
think
I
believe
our
first
appearance.
So
welcome.
Thank
you
and
just
to
let
you
know.
Support
Services
includes
vehicle
operations,
the
mail
center
record
retention,
County
auctions,
both
the
live
auction
and
online
auctions
in
the
cafeteria
in
the
in
the
courthouse
basement
and
vending
machines
in
the
county
buildings.
F
What
were
before
you
today
is
the
replacement
of
a
database
system
that
we
have
in
record
retention.
The
system
is,
at
the
end
of
its
useful
light.
It's
a
it's
a
server-based
system,
we're
looking
to
go
to
a
cloud-based
system.
We
have
had
this
project
before
the
it
leadership
group
went
out
for
proposals.
Last
year
we
had
three
responses
and
have
chosen
this
company
file
net
and
today
we're
asking
for
the
transfer
of
sixty
nine
thousand
two
hundred
and
forty
dollars
into
our
budget
to
cover
the
first
Year's
maintenance,
as
well
as
the.
F
C
A
A
B
I
thought
just
just
a
request,
maybe
in
the
future,
if
I
get
a
little
more
information
about
this,
because
that's
part
of
my
day,
job
I'm,
also
responsible
for
document
ation,
tell
your
organizations
a
little
bit
so
I'm,
just
a
little
intrigued
on
how
this
piece
of
software
is
going
to
work.
Okay,
so,
outside
of
this.
B
A
F
C
E
B
A
All
right
that
takes
us
to
our
final
public
comment
of
the
morning
for
this
committee.
Is
there
anyone
here
who'd
like
to
address
the
EDI
committee,
anyone
here
all
right,
I'll
go
ahead
and
close
public
comment
and
are
there?
Is
there
any
other
business
before
the
body
to
come
before
the
body
sounds
like.