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A
B
President
commissioner,
whiteford
is
running
late.
C
C
C
We
need
a
motion
for
approval
of
the
agenda
move
by
christian
space
back
to
second
by
commissioner
charles
voice
vote,
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
opposed
eyes
have
it
now
we
have
public
comment.
Anybody
from
the
public
would
like
to
speak
to
the
committee,
anyone
anyone.
I
always
wanted
to
say
that
hearing
none,
we'll
call
public
comment
closed.
We
have
no
communications
today,
we'll
start
with
our
first
agenda:
item
facility
management,
facility
planning
and
engineering
sheriff's
office
jail
carport
projects.
E
Good
morning
pleasure
to
see
you
guys
again
again:
yes,
thank
you
for
the
special
meeting,
so
I
believe
everyone
was
present
last
week
for
the
meeting,
so
hopefully
you're
still
familiar
with
this
resolution,
but
it
is
to
construct
a
carport
that
will
accommodate
four
sheriff's
office
vehicles
in
the
in
the
north
parking
lot
of
the
jail.
E
So
with
that
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions,
I
I
know
that
last
meeting
we
talked
about,
you
know
the
additional
funding
which
we've
identified
as
available
in
the
miscellaneous
line
of
the
of
the
cip.
E
Correct
yep,
and
we
were
when
we
looked
at
the
base
bid
for
the
two
was
just
over
fifty
thousand
fifty
one
thousand.
C
Seeing
none,
I
just
say
I
appreciate
the
committee
here
as
a
whole,
making
the
decision
the
last
committee
meeting
it
makes
sense
to
go
forward
with
this
small
amount
to
make
four
instead
of
two.
It
probably
cost
more
if
we
were
going
to
do
this
later
on
so
appreciate
the
committee's
due
diligence
on
that.
C
B
C
Carries
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
gentlemen.
Next
agenda
item.
We
have
facilities
management
facilities,
planning
and
engineering
sheriff's
office,
emergency
management
for
feasibility,
study
for
new
sheriff's
operations,
center
oakland,
county
emergency
operations,
center
sheriff's
office
training
center
and
strategic
storage
facility
need
a
motion
move
by
commissioner
spitz
seconded
by
all
right
seconded
by
chairman
commissioner
woodward
for
discussion.
He
says
all
right
good
morning,
good
morning,
sir
morning,
how
are
you
hey
best
day
of
my
life.
E
So
I'll
I'll
just
introduce,
I
guess
the
resolution.
This
is
for
a
feasibility
study
for
the
sheriff's
office,
911
dispatch
center
emergency
management
operations
center,
as
well
as
sheriff's
office,
training
center
and
also
a
strategic
storage
facility.
E
So
with
that
anyone
that
would
like
to
I,
I
know
that
the
the
resolution
and
the
information
provided
explained
in
detail
the
needs
for
the
facilities,
but
I
didn't
know
if,
if
anybody
wanted
to
start
with
with
some
information
on
on
the
need.
G
All
right
sure
I
can
give
you
I'm
captain
larry
perry
from
the
sheriff's
office
on
the
charge
of
our
training
division,
our
erp
emergency
response
preparedness,
our
swat
team.
I
give
a
little
background
about
our
training,
our
training
facilities
and
where
we're
at
and
a
little
bit
of
history
on
the
on
our
training
division.
G
G
We
had
retrofitted
our
brown
road
facility,
which
was
our
former
boot
camp
program
when
the
program
was
shut
down
and
the
frank
grenin
facility
was
shot,
we
retrofitted
those
buildings.
In
order
to
accomplish
some
of
our
training
goals
and
needs,
they
were
very
run
down
facilities
and
very
hard
to
maintain
because
they
were
off
site
strategically.
It
was
hard
for
us
to
logistically
support
those
buildings
with
training,
because
we
constantly
had
to
move
equipment
out
to
the
facilities
and
back
off
site
recently,
due
to
covid,
we
had
to
relocate.
G
We
were
scrambling
because
of
the
commissioners
were
looking
at,
possibly
housing,
homeless,
subjects
out
there,
so
they
had
came
in
did
the
review
of
the
site
they
found
mold.
It
was
not
a
viable
site
for
them.
It
was
not
viable
for
us
to
be
able
to
train
there
any
longer.
So
we
were
scrambling
for
a
training
facility.
Fortunately,
through
mr
zeikos,
we
were
able
to
locate
a
school
that
had
been
closed
in
brandon
township.
G
G
So
we
were
able
to.
The
timing
was
right
for
us.
We
had
to
be
off
off
of
a
site
and
then
into
the
into
the
new
site
within
a
weekend.
So
we
were
able
to
facilitate
that
and
make
that
happen,
and
that's
where
we're
currently
at
right
now
we're
using
an
old
school.
Was
a
former
brandon
high
school
middle
school
we've
been
able
to
retrofit
it
to
meet
some
of
our
training
needs
as
far
as
classroom
instruction
and
things
along
those
lines
we
like,
as
I
said
earlier,
we
we
have
been
hodge
podged.
G
G
We
were
also
using
for
our
emergency
vehicle
operations.
Our
pursuit
intervention
training
that
we
use
for
the
vehicles
to
to
stop
pursuits
high-speed
pursuits
from
occurring.
We
burn
at
the
at
the
airport.
G
We
have
been
at
the
at
the
old
mall
parking
lot
most
recently
right
now
we
were
at
schoolcraft
college,
renting
that
prop
running
their
skid
pad
in
order
to
perform
that
training.
G
As
far
as
providing
training,
he
allows
outside
agencies
to
train
with
us,
or
we
will
even
train
the
outside
agencies.
We
have
over
the
over
the
years
with
our
with
our
our
driving
instructional
training.
We,
we
trained
southfield
pd
about
three
years
ago,
with
with
pit
training
and
edo
training,
emergency
vehicle
operations,
silver
lake
keegan
harbor,
our
our
net
team,
which
involves
officers
from
all
over
the
county
that
are
involved
with
our
narcotics
enforcement
division.
G
As
recently
as
this
year,
we've
been
approached
by
bloomfield
or
I'm
sorry,
west
bloomfield,
farmington
hills
and
auburn
hills
to
take
in
and
instruct
their
their
officers
in
these
emergency
vehicle
operations
and
pet
techniques.
Unfortunately,
we
haven't
been
able
to
do
it
because
we
still
have
the
facilities
to
do
it,
the
sheriff
when
he,
when
he,
when
we
train
these
other
agencies,
it's
at
no
cost
the
sheriff
charges
any
of
their
other
agencies.
G
Since
we've
stood
up
the
training
facility
on
brown
road,
our
from
brown,
our
broadway
transition
to
the
school
in
brandon
township,
we
we
conducted
several
types
of
training
out
there,
the
sheriff
we
have
a
training
consortium
here
in
oakland
county
called
oaktac.
It's
made
up
of
all
of
the
law
enforcement
agencies
in
the
county.
G
Waterford
police
department
was
recently
out
and
used
in
one
of
the
areas
of
the
school
we've
been
able
to
retrofit,
with
movable
walls
that
we
built
and
build
a
shoot
house
to
simulate,
doing
entry,
work
and
room
clearing,
and
things
like
that.
Waterford
police
department
over
the
course
of
the
last
two
months
has
trained
their
entire
department
out
there
on
how
to
clear
rooms
and
buildings.
G
G
We,
our
range
facilities,
are
in
the
main
jail
and
in
the
basement,
so
another
location
that
we're
trying
to
balance.
The
range
was
built
in
1972
when
the
jail
was
built.
It's
five
lanes.
It
was
designed
for
when
the
department
had
150
officers
right
now
on
a
monthly
basis.
Just
our
own
agency,
we
train
approximately
900
officers
with
firearms.
G
G
The
the
postal
service,
the
postmaster
office,
uses
it
for
certification
for
their
officers
with
treasury
department,
sometimes
once
in
a
while,
the
the
federal
agencies,
the
fbi
or
marshall,
will
come
into
use
it
additionally,
they've
been
in
the
federal
agencies
has
been
in
and
used
the
facility
up
at
brandon
for
the
entry
technique
and
room
clearance,
things
that
we're
doing
up
there.
G
We
were
also
approached
just
recently
by
the
brandon
township
fire
department.
As
far
as
far
as
using
the
site.
Excuse
me,
as
far
as
using
the
site
to
simulate
fire
extrication
and
navigation
in
a
smoke
environment
which
we're
110
on
board.
With
you
know,
as
long
as
we
can
schedule
it,
they
can
use
the
facility
since
the
range
was
built
in
1972
and
over
the
over
the
last
15
years.
G
We
have
no
outdoor
ranges.
We
have
no
interranges
that
accommodate
the
rifles
for
qualification,
so
we
have
to
lease
one
of
the
area
gun
ranges
in
order
to
do
that
training.
Right
now
we
have
a
group
of
lateral
hires
that
have
come
in.
They
are
out
at
the
range
out
of
the
detroit
sportsman's
congress
over
right
on
the
border
of
rochester
hills,
shelby,
township,
they're
training
today
and
this
week
to
become
patrol
rifle
certified.
It
costs
us
500
a
day
to
use
that
range.
G
G
We
are
renting
that
facility,
as
I
stated
in
brandon
township,
and
it's
costing
us
144
thousand
dollars
annually
in
order
to
rent
that
facility,
plus
we're
paying
for
utilities
we're
paying
for
other
amenities
there
to
to
operate.
The
facility,
such
as
we
were
re-uh
reimbursing
the
property
owner,
thirty
thirty,
six
thousand
dollars
a
year
for
utilities
we
had
to
put
in
the
security
system.
G
Thirty
two
hundred
dollars
cost
for
us
in
order
for
us
to,
in
order
for
us
to
hook
up
to
the
the
internet
for
the
for
the
county
website
for
the
county
mainframe,
it
was.
It
cost
us
21
000.
In
order
to
do
that,
but
the
training
that
we're
doing
there
we're
running
our
own
corrections
academies
where
we're
we're
not
sending
them
out
to
another
agency,
we're
running
them
in-house.
We
have
agencies
other
sheriff's
offices
within
the
state
that
send
their
officers
to
us
to
attend
our
corrections
academy.
G
We're
currently
running
the
corrections
academy
right
now
with
four
officers
that
are
from
sinclair
county,
but
we've
had
deputies
from
grand
traverse
from
monroe
and
other
and
other
county
sheriff's
offices
that
have
sent
their
their
deputies
here.
To
be
trained,
it's
always
been
a
challenge
because
of
the
different
components
that
we
have
to
do
and
the
logistics
that
go
behind
it.
G
One
of
the
key
components
to
this
training
center
concept
is
is
being
able
to
have
a
site,
as
I
mentioned,
about
for
emergency
vehicle
operations,
a
skid
pad,
ultimately
the
state
police.
They
have
a
one
and
a
half
mile
road
track.
I
don't
know
if
they'll
be
able
to
do
that
on
that
site,
but
that
would
be
part
of
the
recommendation
so
that
for
the
emergency
vehicle
operations,
it's
kind
of
a
critical
piece
and
component
to
it,
but
the
the
skid
pad
and
the
emergency
vehicle
operations
are
huge.
C
D
C
D
Come
share
with
thank
you
for
sure
I
mean
I
think
I
mean
I
never
a
question
that
got
this
proposal
on
this
resolution,
but
because
we're
specific
I
mean
this
is,
I
think
the
speaking
is
more
specific
about
the
training
component
of
all
of
this.
When
we
go
by
when,
when
we
provide
training
to
outside
agencies,
do
they
pay?
Do
they
pay
for
the
use
of
that
training?
So
we
bear
the
full
cost
of
all
that
training
the
sheriff
does.
Sir,
do
we
train
like
state,
police
or
other.
D
H
D
The
reason
I'm
asking-
and
I
think
you
know
it
sounds
great,
except
I
mean
the
op
in
order
to
sustain
the
sustain
these
trainings
and
I
think
that's
the
question
and
where
I
mean
ultimately,
I
read
today
that
I
mean
the
proposal
I
mean
if
we
were
going
to
go
forward
in
building
one
two
three
buildings,
we're
looking
at
88
million
dollars
is
the
number
that
we're
in
the
newspaper
with
no
revenue
stream
to
pay
for
it.
So
what
is
the
ration
now
I
mean
we
all
support
training.
We
understand
training
is
important.
D
What's
the
rationale
that
there
isn't
an
expectation
that
other
agencies
that
are
that
I
mean
I
mean
we
have
our
food
who
share
responsibility
to
our
men
and
women
in
uniform.
I
mean
I
mean
to
be
in
the
taxpayers.
We
serve
to
train
them
to
have
the
best
officers
out
there
in
the
on
the
streets.
What's
the
rationale
for
not
entering
into
some
sort
of
agreement
to
share
in
the
cost
of
what
what
it
costs
to
provide
this
training.
H
That's
very
good,
and
I
can
answer
that,
so
that's
a
very
good
question
for
the
local
oakland
county
police
agencies.
We
we
would
not
charge
them,
because
these
are
county
tax
dollars.
We
will
look
at
a
model
if
this
becomes
a
regional
facility
to
save
charge
of
the
federal
government
or
other
outside
agencies
and
establish
some
sort
of
revenue
stream.
For
that
we're
not
opposed
to
that
and
your
question's
a
very
good
one.
D
Right
along
this-
and
I
remember
having
conversations
with
past
administration
specifically
around
this-
I
mean
have:
do
we
have
some
demonstration
that
to
that
question
that
if
it's
built
they
will
come,
I
mean
do
we
have
we
asked
agencies
to
say?
Yes,
not
only
would
we
come,
but
we're
also
willing
to
I
mean
contribute
because
they
too,
I
can't
think
of
any
law
enforcement
agency
that
doesn't
put
a
premium,
particularly
in
this
moment
in
history,
on
training
that
wouldn't
agree
to
it.
D
Have
we
done
the
outreach
to
have
that
level
of
support
not
just
like
yeah?
We
would
like
you
to
build
it
and
then
we'll
use
it
for
free,
but,
like
yes,
I
mean
we're
committed.
We
are
committed
to
using
this
and
yeah.
Yes,
sir,
I
think
like
before
we
free
answer.
I
I
bring
it
up
in
the
context
of
occ
building
a
training
facility
and
everything,
and
it's
not
utilized
it
was
a
complete.
I
mean
I'm
not
gonna,
say
it
was
a
failure.
D
It
just
built
a
structure
to
be
able
to
do
these
things
that,
for
whatever
reason
people
said
you
know
what
we
will
achieve
our
training.
A
different
way-
and
so
that
is
I
mean
in
terms
of
thinking,
big
picture,
this
build
it
and
they
will
come
mentality,
gives
me
a
little
bit
of
pause
because
we
have
evidence
in
which
we
built
it
and
they
didn't
come.
H
H
In
fact,
we
can
send
you
a
paper
on
that
if
you
like,
with
all
those
salient
points,
we'll
send
that
to
you
not
a
problem,
but
in
terms
of
outsiders
again
outside
well,
we
it's
not
the
sheriff's
intention
to
charge
ferndale,
pd
or
farmington
hills
pd
to
use
the
facility
that
I
mean,
if
the
board
decides
that,
that's
what
you
want
to
charge
for
it.
I
guess
that's
up
to
you,
but
we
feel
that
anybody
within
the
county.
This
is
a
going
to
be
a
county-wide
resource
for
all
police
agencies.
H
Okay,
specifically
the
train,
the
the
the
training
center,
because
there's
multiple
you
know,
there's
eoc
and
dispatch
we'll
get
into
in
a
minute,
so
in
terms
of
federal
agencies
or
agencies
outside
of
oakland
county.
Yes,
we
have
had
preliminary
discussions
and
actually
the
federal
government
has
indicated
to
us.
They
would
be
willing,
they
do
very
limited
amount
right
now
where
they
come
in.
They
might
use
our
range
once
a
year,
a
very
limited
amount
in
terms
of
those
agencies,
but
there
has
been
an
indication
that
they
would
be
willing
to
pay.
I
How's
that
perfect,
so
to
what
you
were
saying,
captain
perry
when
you
were
talking
about
all
the
different
policing
agencies
that
have
used
the
facility.
I
didn't
hear
any
in
the
18th
district
you
mentioned
three
years
ago:
southfield
had
someone
show
up
no
one
in
novi
or
royal
oak
or
farmington
hills
or
milford,
or
s
liquorian.
H
Are
members
within
your
district
that
do
use
it
that
are
members
of
our
narcotics
enforcement
team
includes
ferdile
hazel
park,
huntington
woods,
okay,
they're
part
of
the
team,
so
freedom
is
part
of
the
oak
tech,
training,
consumer
and
then
yeah.
Every
department
in
oakland
county
is
part
of
the
oak
tack
consortium
which
is
in
the.
If
you
got
that
paper
that
the
county
sent
out
yesterday,
yeah
every
department
in
oakland
county
currently
does
use
it
under
the
under
the
oak
tac
hospice.
G
H
G
G
I
was
part
of
oak
tech.
I
was
the
former
vice
president
of
when
we
stood
the
program
up
and
we've
been
very
fortunate
that
I
had
to
have
this
site
and
it's
been
being
utilized
pretty
consistently.
Over
the
summer
oak
tech
was
established
after
the
mumbai
incident.
That
happened
in
india,
where
there
were
armed
terrorists
that
took
over
the
city
sheriff
met
with
all
of
the
police
chiefs
and
said.
If
this
happens
in
oakland
county,
what
are
we
going
to
do?
G
But
what
we've
been
able
to
do
over
the
years
as
far
as
active
shooter
response
and
training
command
officers
to
deal
with
active
shooter
responses?
Is
we've
been
able
to
train
over
2000
officers
as
a
force
multiplier
in
order
to
deal
with
one
of
these
potential
situations?
G
Same
tactic,
same
training,
same
verbage,
everybody's
on
the
same
page.
Fortunately,
we've
never
had
an
actual
deployment
where
we've
had
to
respond
to.
We
had
a
dry
run
where
there
was
a
false,
false
alarm
down
in
bloomfield
a
couple
years
ago,
and
it
was
great
to
in
the
after
action.
We
used
to
see
how
the
things
that
we've
trained
them
to
do.
G
They
did
as
far
as
keeping
the
fire
lanes
open,
making
sure
that
the
command
post
was
not
set
up,
inappropriately
that
the
officers
responded
that
they
were
able
to
take
and
tactically
deploy
them
all
those
things
that
we
had
done.
It
was
very
beneficial
that
that
training
was
beneficial
so
as
we've
transitioned
as
we're
we're
transitioning
with
manpower,
retirements
and
things
like
that,
it's
a
necessity
to
crank
this
back
up
into
a
constant
training
mode
for
oak
tech.
H
I
So
what
you're
asking
us
is
to
do
a
feasibility
study
to
then
possibly
spend
between
something
like
37
million
dollars.
I've
heard
to
88
million
dollars
where
then,
how
many
people
will
utilize
this
on?
What
regularity
of
a
basis
right?
What
I'm
getting
to
is
you
listed
several
things,
but
I
don't
that
doesn't
add
up
in
my
mind,.
G
G
I
What
I'm
asking
is,
do
you
have
like
a
training
schedule
because
we've
talked
and
captain
onedrik
and
I
have
talked
and
they
showed
a
training
schedule?
That
was
great.
I
I
don't
know
if
that's
in
the
150
page
thing
that
connie
was
kind
enough
to
make.
But
if
it's
not
I'd
like
to
see
that
because
I
don't
I
can
get
you
a
copy
of
it,
do
not
bring.
It
appreciate
that
of
expected
training,
not
what
currently
is
done.
Sure
yeah.
I
Again,
what
the
potential
could
be
not
next
year
of
what
you're
going
to
do,
but
if
there
are
going
to
be
3,
000
policing
units
because
again
in
the
18th
district,
yes,
chief
emmy's
talked
about
being
part
of
oak
tech
and
he
has
the
swap
badge
here
and
all
that.
But
he
doesn't
talk
about
needing
to
show
up
to
something
on
brown,
road
or
elizabeth
lake
road
regularly
or
having
his
officers.
Do
that.
So
I'm
not
fully
understanding
the
what
will
change
as
a
result
of
building
a
new
facility.
G
Well,
most
of
these
individual
departments
right
now
that
have
rifle
programs
they
are.
They
are
renting
ranges
to
be
able
to
certify
their
officers
with
a
patrol
rifle
the
facility.
If
you
build
it,
they
will
come
concept.
We've
already
demonstrated
that
that
that's
in
progress
right
now
with
the
limited
things
that
we're
able
to
do
at
the
facility
that
we
have.
I
H
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
think
everybody
needs
to
remember
we're
here
to
evaluate
the
feasibility
study.
A
lot
of
these
questions
are
great,
but
I
think
it
also
is
part
of
the
feasibility
study
that
we're
looking
to
run
we'll
get
the
answers
to
a
lot
of
those
questions.
Put
those
numbers
together
to
determine
what,
if
anything,
we're
going
to
spend
on
building
a
true
facility,
because,
personally,
what
I
expect
out
of
this
feasibility
studies
is
options.
F
We
build
this.
It's
x,
you
know
it's
30
million!
You
build
this,
it's
50
million!
You
build
this.
It's
80
million
with
options
that
doesn't
have
a
track
like
captain
perry
mentioned
they're
looking
for
a
track,
but
it
might
not
fit
on
that.
On
that
footprint.
F
Do
you
need
to
put
in
something
for
your
for
your
motorcycle
training?
Do
you
need
to
put
in
how
many
more
lanes
you
need
in
for
for
training
all
the
additional
people?
To
answer
your
question,
charlie
about
the
numbers,
you
know,
that's!
What
I
expect
to
see
out
of
feasibility
study
is
all
that
information
so
that
we
can
better
determine
as
board
of
commissioners
the
support
of
everybody
in
this
room.
F
What
makes
sense
and
what
doesn't
make
sense
from
a
county
perspective.
You
know,
what
can
we
bring
to
the
outside?
Is
the
fbi
going
to
come
in?
How
often
do
we
predict
they're
going
to
come
in
and
put
a
put
a
business
plan
together
and
says?
Okay,
this
is
what
makes
sense
for
oakland
county.
You
know
we
all.
I
think
commissioner
woodward
said
training.
We
all
believe
in
training.
Training
is
the
key
to
do
every
not
only
in
the
sheriff's
department,
but
in
everything
we
do
in
everyday
life.
F
Training
is
important
because
if
you
don't
train,
you
fall
behind
and
then
we
understand
and
the
policing
agencies,
if
you
fall
behind
something
really
bad
can
happen,
and
you
want
to
prepare
for
those
before
they
happen.
So
if
you're
not
prepared
bad
things
happen,
but
you
need
to
be
prepared
for
what
might
happen
and
you
don't
know
what's
going
to
happen,
so
we
don't
even
know
what
we
don't
know
yet
right.
In
many
cases,
yeah
we've
seen
some.
We
have
the
active
shooter
program
for
all
the
horrific
actions
that
have
happened
in
the
past.
F
So
that's
why
that
is
in
place.
You
know
you
mentioned
about
the
terrorist
act
in
mumbai
yeah.
We
have
now
have
things
in
place
to
protect
for
those,
so
we
need
to
be
prepared
and
have
a
facility
that
allows
us
to
be
prepared,
and
not
only
the
sheriff's
department
but
all
oakland
county
agencies
and
then,
if
there's
others
outside
that,
want
to
come
and
use
it.
I'm
sure
we'd
be
more
than
welcome
to
help
them
train
him.
F
A
Thanks
I'd
just
like
to
go
back
to
one
of
the
points
commissioner
woodward
made
early
on,
and
that
is
about
the
cvts
getting
all
this
training
for
free
we're
sitting
here,
looking
at
a
budget
this
year,
where
we're
all
being
asked
to
cut
the
budget
by
over
four
percent.
If
we
can-
and
I
think
out
of
the
62
or
63
cbts-
that
we
have
there's
got
to
be
varying
levels
of
how
much
they're
using
you,
I
mean,
I
don't
think
the
novi
people
are
driving
out
to
brown
road.
A
All
that
often
I'm
sure
there
are
some,
but
I
don't
see.
A
I
would
like
to
see
a
more
defined
cost-benefit
analysis
between
us
and
the
cbts
and
what
we're
providing
and
what
they
really
need,
because
the
biggest
budget
in
almost
all
of
the
communities
is
public
safety,
so
we're
carrying
that
for
these
communities
in
regards
to
training,
and
I
would
like
to
understand
what
that
looks
like
as
it
relates
to
the
budget
for
all
of
this.
So
thanks.
H
D
Thanks,
thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you,
commissioner
spitz
for
pulling
me
out
of
the
rabbit
hole,
and
I
knew
as
soon
as
we
were
talking
training.
I
was
going
down
that
road
because
I
mean
I
I
really
do
want
to
talk
more
big
picture
about
what
this
feasibility
study
is,
because
I
think
the
things
that
you're
asking
I'm
not
convinced
is
actually
part
of
this
proposal
and
the
reason
I
ask
this
is
like
the
the
vendors
that
are
being
selected.
D
We're
not
this
feat,
it's
being
called
a
feasibility
study,
but
it
seems
a
lot
more.
It's
like
a
pre-development
proposal
and
we're
talking
architectural
drawings.
Well,
you
don't
draw
up
drawings
until
you
know,
are
you
building
one
building,
two
billions
or
three
buildings,
there's
borings
and
everything
which
I
assume
it's
talking
about
testing
out
like?
Can
we
build
this
big
giant
building
here?
So
we're
like
talking
about
location,
but
I
mean
I
don't
I
mean
I've
heard
of
the
idea
of
the
location
is
I'll
flag.
D
I'm
not
super
excited
about
the
location
that's
been
talked
about,
but
I
assume
that
there
would
be
the
feasibilities
here
is
like.
Will
that
location,
that's
being
talked
about
work?
It's
not
what's
the
optimal
location,
it's
not
a
conversation.
Do
we
look
at
existing
structures
and
re
I
mean
rebuild
on
it.
D
I
mean
redevelop
an
area
versus
build
brand
new
that
so
I
so
for
ed
and
for
the
team
and
everything
help
explain
to
me
what
exactly
so
the
I
mean
this,
this
1.5
million
dollars
we're
going
to
talk
about
process
in
a
minute,
but
this
1.5
million
dollars
proposed
for
the
selected
vendor.
I
guess
in
partnership
with
a
subcontractor.
D
D
I
mean
I
mean
obviously
there's
other
things
we're
talking
in
this,
but
my
point
is:
we're
not
doing
an
assessment
like
okay,
so
this
is
how
we
currently
do
it,
and
if
we
just
continue
to
bulk
up
or
fix
up
or
do
these
other
types
of
things
we
can
continue
doing
like
this
is
a
conversation
about
building
this
new
building,
not
which
I
interpret
is
not
exactly
what
commissioner
says,
which
I
completely
agree
with,
is
that
we
should
be
looking
at
all
these
things
and
then
be
making
a
decision
going
forward.
So
I
mean
ed.
D
E
So
a
feasibility
study
is
defined
as
one
that
would
take
us
through
the
schematic
design
phase.
So
in
architecture
and
engineering
you
know,
there's
typically
five
design
phases
right.
You
have
pre-design
schematic
design,
design,
development,
construction
and
then
construction
administration,
which
includes
close-out.
E
So
what
what
this
study
would
do
would
would
again
again
would
include
the
pre-design
through
schematic
design.
So
in
the
in
the
pre-design
phase,
we
collect
all
the
information
right.
We
we
put
together
a
program
and
keep
in
mind
that
we're
talking
more
than
just
the
the
sheriff's
office
training
center
here,
but
we're
also
talking
about
emergency
management's,
eoc
and
the
911
center,
and
also
a
storage
facility
for
all
the
equipment.
All
the
ppe,
everything
that
we're
storing
in
multiple
locations
spread
all
over
the
place.
E
So
once
you
know
once
the
the
programming
is
done
which
which
deeps,
which
dives
very
deeply
into
you,
know
what
we
have
now,
where
the
deficiencies
are
taking
a
look
at
what
would
be
ideal
for
the
future
that
all
all
of
that
information
then
is
used,
then,
to
start
developing
some
drawings,
but
at
a
schematic
level
right.
They
are
they're
they're
floor
plans,
but
not
detailed
to
the
point
where
they
would
be
ready
to
go
to
bid
or
they
they
could
be
used
for
construction.
E
E
That
information
could
be
used
then
to
to
get
into
what
your
your
head
mentioned,
commissioner,
but
the,
but
the
architecture
firm
isn't
going
to
be
tasked
with
comparing
those
numbers.
I
assume
that
that's
something
that
the
sheriff's
office
and
emergency
management
office
then
would
now
now
that
they
have
the
information
that
they
need.
They
can
compare
those
numbers.
J
If
I
could
speak
for
a
moment
to
the
sub
this,
you
mentioned
the
subcontractor
one
of
the
reasons
captain
meyer
and
I
pushed
heavily
for
the
one
subcontractor
and
part
of
their
proposal.
One
part
is
they've
done
a
ton
of
these
specialty,
eoc
911
training
centers
around
the
country,
but
also
part
of
their
proposal,
is
a
needs
assessment,
including
public
meetings,
getting
feedback
from
the
public
and
finding
out
all
right.
What
is
the
mission
of
these
agencies?
What
is
it
that
we're
trying
to
achieve?
J
What
are
the
community
needs
that
could
be
achieved
and
then
making
recommendations?
It's
a
even.
This
is
a
big
commitment.
You
start
talking
about
buildings
of
that
cost.
That's
a
huge
financial
commitment.
You
know
on
on
the
county,
so
making
sure
that
you
do
it
right,
you
know,
and
that
it's
proper
and
that
fits
the
needs
and
and
that
company
had
a
strong
track
record
of
doing
that
and
and
those
communities
being
really
happy
with
what
they
got,
which
is
why
why
we
pushed
heavily
to
have
that
involvement.
D
E
I
I
don't
know
how
that's
broken
down.
You
know
and
I'm
not
even
sure
that
that
the
rfp
breaks
it
down.
You
know
the
the
rfp
requested
a
feasibility
study
which
again
takes
us
through
schematic
design.
So
you
know,
based
on
some
high
level
information
as
to
what
you
know
the
schematic
design
would
include.
E
E
It's
not
like
you
know
if
it
is
approved
and
we
move
forward
that
information
is
not
lost
right.
It's
we
pick
back
up
at
schematic,
design
and
move
right
into
design
development
and
and
can
continue
the
process.
D
So
is
it
accurate,
I
guess
what
I'm
trying
to
get
at
is
we're
not
really
we're
not
doing.
The
assessment
of
this
whole
proposal
is
driven
towards
building
buildings,
a
building
or
multiple
buildings.
This
isn't
about
thinking
through
what
are
all
the
options
available
to
us
to
be
able
to
bulk
up
training,
improve
the
emergency
management
response
and
in
improving
or
complementing
the
the
dispatch
operation?
E
E
And
I'll
let
the
under
sheriff-
and
mr
hardesty
comment
on
that
too,
but
you
know
that
piece
is
not
is
not
lost
right.
I
mean
this.
This
is
very
much
a
a
team
effort
that
includes
emergency
management,
the
sheriff's
office
partners
in
architecture,
facilities,
management,
the
the
specialty
consultant-
and
you
know
it's
not
just
a
heads-down
approach
where
we're
just
focusing
on
you
know,
what's
the
ideal
building
and
build
it
right,
I
mean.
E
E
You
know
everything
that
that
was
discussed
and
discovered
during
the
process
right
and
and
that
you
know
this
whole
process
could
take
a
year
and
it
doesn't
take
them
a
year
to
put
together
these
schematic
drawings
that
we're
talking
about
right
majority
of
that
time
is
spent
on
the
front
end
stuff,
gathering
all
that
information.
Looking
at
all
the
different
options,
you
know
getting
the
information
from
the
sheriff's
office,
getting
the
information
from
emergency
management.
E
You
know
getting
input
from
the
the
communities
like
mr
hardesty
had
mentioned,
and
and
then
getting
information
from
you
know
the
specialty
consultant
with
their
experience
on
you
know
on
other
options.
J
Okay,
this
is
the
facilities
that
could
support
that.
So
so,
yes
is
it.
Is
it
pointing
towards
that
facility,
but
it
does
look
at
a
needs
assessment
within
there,
but
it's
not
evaluating
us
as
an
emergency
management
department
and
saying
well,
you
should
you
should
do
this
differently.
You're
you're,
correct
there.
One
last
thing:
okay,.
D
These
I
mean
these
vendors
have
a
vested
interest
on
building
a
building.
In
the
end,
this
is
what
they
do,
and
so
I,
of
course
I
know
without
even
spending
a
dime,
it's
going
to
come
back
with
a
proposal
to
build
one
two
or
some
significant
building,
which
again
I
may
hear
the
I
mean
the
arguments.
D
There's
definitely
some
that
I
mean
I'm,
I'm
100
sold
on
others,
I'm
not
sold
on
at
all,
but
I
I
I
just
like
my
pushback
is-
is
that
in
the
end
I
mean
there's
an
incentive
for
these
vendors
to
actually
make
the
case
to
build
this
and
oh-
and
I
want
to
help,
build
this
and
like
move
it
to
the
the
upper
phases
and
I'm
not
thinking
nothing
fairest
about.
That
is
that
this
is
what
they
do.
I
mean
we
draw.
D
We
drew
on
them
because
of
their
experience,
and
so
I
I
guess
I
want
us
to
be
eyes
wide
open.
We
are.
This
is
a
proposal
to
move
forward
to
building
at
least
one
new
building,
if
not
multiple
new
buildings.
F
And
I
was
going
to
attempt
to
answer
your
question.
I
think
someone
answered
it
yourself.
I
mean
if
you
go
through
what
we're
talking
about
with
this
evaluation
right,
this
feasibility
study.
We
have
the
sheriff's
department
with
training,
that's
moving
all
over
the
map
and
doesn't
have
a
location
right.
Yes,
we're
renting
a
location.
We
do
not
have
a
location
for
county
to
train
our
sheriff's
department
or
the
other
other
sheriff's
department
or
other
agencies
around
the
county,
eoc
and
the
dispatch
center
they're
archaic.
F
If
you
guys
have
toured
it
yeah,
we
got
some
great
equipment
in
there
high
technology,
but
we're
pretty
much
built
out.
We
can't
get
any
bigger
in
that
facility,
plus
it's
archaic.
You
know
it's
built
in
the
70s
60s
50s,
50s,
20s
and
50s,
so
I
mean
ultimately,
yes,
it's
going
to
get
somewhere.
It's
going
to
be,
and
you
said,
a
new
facility,
possibly
that's,
probably
in
my
belief
it's
probably
the
highest
potential,
but
that
doesn't
mean
we
don't
can't
retrofit
x
facility,
retrofit
or
y
facility.
F
Something
else
fits
the
plan
and
that's
where
I
get
back
to
what
I
said
earlier:
option
a
b
or
c
or
one
two:
three.
You
know
and
here's
the
cost
associated
with
them.
You
know,
maybe
we
take
the
current
building,
we
just
revamp
it
and
add
on
to
it.
I
don't
think
it's
feasible
based
on
age
of
it,
but
that
doesn't
mean
it's
not
a
possibility.
J
When
I
was
I
I
when
they
talked
about
feasibility
and
I'm
also
the
one
that
pushed
to
add
at
least
the
discussion
of
a
warehouse,
I'm
not
any
history
of
any
site
construction,
I
couldn't
tell
you
if
a
warehouse
for
what
what
we're
seeing
happening,
is
500,
000
or
5
million.
So
I
did
push
to
at
least
have
that
be
a
discussion
point,
because
this
is
a
feasibility
study.
Is
that
something
we
would
consider
worth
paying
for
or
not
compared
to
not
what
we're
renting
so
that
that
was
an
add-on
that
I
I.
F
And
you
know:
there's
multiple
different
aspects
going
into
this
feasibility
study
right
and
they're
all
in
different
locations
around
the
county.
Today
this
group
feels
that
that'd
be
better
that
they're
in
one
group
but
as
part
of
the
feasibility
study
it
may
pan
out
and
as
we
as
a
board,
look
at
it
and
look
at
the
numbers
and
evaluation
that
may
be
more
financially
feasible
and
realistic
to
have
three
separate
buildings
around
the
county
somewhere
else.
F
That's
that's
what
the
feasibility
study
is
for
us
to
help
us
figure
out
some
of
those
things
plus
when
they
put
the
rfp
together.
You're
talking
twenty
thousand
hundred
thousand
foot
discussions.
You
know
when
we
get
into
feasibility
study
and
the
stuff
that
ed
was
mentioning
up
front.
You're
gonna
get
into
deeper
the
weeds
of
what
exactly
we
need.
We
have
five
lanes
for
training
right
now,
right,
firearms
training.
You
might
need
50.,
I'm
sure
you
have
a
good
idea,
but
we
need
to
get
it
sit
down
with
a
group
of
people.
F
Ask
other
agencies.
What
do
we
think
we
need
to
develop
that
and
how
many
people
and
I'm
sure,
there's
good
studies
out
there
across
the
country
already
say?
Okay,
you
got
three
thousand
people
are
going
to
use
it.
You
need
x,
amount
of
lanes
and
that'll
all
have
to
be
put
into
a
piece
of
paper
and
requirements
for
the
architects.
Okay,
this
is
what
the
footprint's
gonna
start
looking
like,
and
you
rough
it
out
before.
F
J
Volunteer
point,
commissioner:
there,
with
weather
resistant
buildings-
we
don't,
we
don't
have
any
the
911
center
and
emergency
operations
center
are
expected
to
operate
in
the
middle
of
the
mess.
It's
that's.
When
you
have
to
be
there
during
the
pandemic,
our
staff
weren't
operating
from
home.
They
were
spending
more
time
in
the
office.
You
know
they
were
meeting
in
hallways.
You
know
the
tornado,
they're
operating.
J
You
know
that
tornado's
a
few
miles
to
the
east
and
unfortunately,
the
building's
not
there
so
that
that
is,
you
know
our
our
responsibility
for
both
ours
and
the
reason
we've
we've
pushed
heavily
to
keep
them
together
is
because
we
communicate
a
lot
during
emergencies
and
disasters
and
both
of
those
two
need
to
operate
in
the
worst
of
conditions.
A
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
want
to
change
the
subject
just
a
little
bit
about.
Where
are
we
going
to
put
these
buildings?
If
we
decide
we're
going
to
build
new
buildings,
we
have
a
study
underway
right
now,
looking
at
the
environmental
aspects
of
the
entire
campus,
the
buildings
that
exist,
what
kind
of
energy
they're
using
how
we
move
about
the
campus,
and
all
of
that.
I
want
that
to
be
part
of
this
discussion
for
sure,
where,
where
should
this
building
really
be?
We
have
buildings.
I
know
on
this
campus
that
are
100
years
old.
A
Roughly
that
we're
storing
paper
in
maybe
the
right
thing
to
do
is
to
knock
that
down
and
build
something
new
right
where
it
was.
You
got
a
mall
right
across
the
street
you're
sitting
here
talking
about
a
track,
I'm
thinking
have
we
talked
to
the
people
who
own
that
property
over
there
about
what
we
might
want
to
do
with
the
sheriffs
you
know
over
there.
A
The
environmental
aspects
of
whatever
it
is
we're
going
to
do
in
my
opinion,
needs
to
meet
our
stated
goals
to
move
forward
toward
net
zero
carbon
emissions,
and
that
means
I
want
to
see
standards
for
these
buildings.
You
know
the
wording
in
here
was
kind
of
well
we'll
look
at
the
environmental
aspects
and
we're
not
maybe
going
to
go
for
lead.
A
We,
I
don't
want
whatever
we
build
as
a
new
building
to
be
anything
but
state
of
the
art
going
forward,
and
I
want
the
cost
of
that
to
be
properly
evaluated,
but
also
look
at
the
energy
savings.
We're
going
to
see
down
the
road-
and
I
want
all
of
this
tied
together
so
that
I'll
tell
you.
I
don't
like
the
idea
of
tearing
up
88
acres
of
green
space
that
we
own
right
at
the
entrance
to
the
county.
A
To
do
this,
I
just
think
with
as
much
property
as
we
have
as
many
old
buildings
as
we
have
that
discussion
really
needs
to
be
had
about.
Where
are
we
going
with
this,
and
I
don't
want
these
buildings
to
be
in
conflict
with
that?
That
being
said,
I
am,
I
do
understand
your
logic
and
I
I
am
in
general
support
of
all
of
of
all
of
this
going
forward.
I
think
it's
important
to
train.
I
think
it's
important
to
store
our
facilities
in
good
storage
places.
A
I
mean
just
look
at
the
car
dealership
down
here,
where
you're,
storing
all
your
vehicles,
the
costs
alone,
can
just
rent
and
energy
going
up
into
the
air.
You
know.
Yes,
we
need
to
be
doing
better
going
forward,
so
I'm
generally
in
support
of
this,
but
I
really
want
the
environmental
aspects
of
what
we're
doing
to
meet
our
stated
county
goals,
we're
leading
in
moving
forward
on
climate
change,
and
I
want
this
to
address
that
directly.
So
that's
my
point,
I'm
sure
as
well.
Well,.
E
E
Yeah
so,
commissioner,
as
you
mentioned,
the
county
has
contracted
with
a
vendor
that
is
helping
us
with
a
campus-wide
sustainability
plan
right
and
that
eva
evaluation,
you
know,
will
help
us.
You
know,
determine
where
we're
at
what
opportunities
we
have,
and
you
know
hopefully
clearly
I
shouldn't
say.
Hopefully
the
plan
is
that
plan
will
set
a
firm
goal
for
what
the
county
is
going
to
do.
Are
we
going
to
be
a
lead
gold
campus?
Are
we
going
to
be
net
zero,
carbon
emissions
so
on
and
so
forth?
E
So
so
we
are
actively
doing
that,
as
you
know,
we're
close
to
bringing
on
the
county's
first
environmental
sustainability
officer
who
will
be
involved
in
that
effort
as
well,
and
you
also
mentioned
you
know
a
study
to
take
a
look
at
our
existing
facilities.
What
opportunities
are?
Maybe
you
know,
we've
also
contracted
with
another
vendor
that
is
helping
us
with
that
study,
where
they're
evaluating
the
departments
and
the
the
footprint
needs,
especially
with
the
new
remote
remote
work
right.
So
you
know,
I
think
the
results
of
those
will
help
us
get
to.
E
The
88
acres,
I
think,
is
initially
being
looked
at
simply
because
of
the
the
size
of
these
facilities.
Right
again,
the
feasibility
study
is
going
to
help
us
determine
what
they
you
know
what
they
need
to
be.
But
you
know
looking
back
at
the
the
animal
shelter
that
we
built
a
few
years
ago.
E
You
know
we
looked
at
building
it
down
at
the
88
acres.
It
was
determined
at
that
time
that
we
needed
to
try
to
shoehorn
it
in
somewhere
here
on
campus
and
and
we
were
able
to
do
that.
But
you
know
the
site
wasn't
ideal
and
that
is
like
a
40,
43
000
square
foot,
building
right
the
you
know
these
facilities
that
we're
talking
about
here
are
75
000
square
foot,
80
000
square
foot
and
then,
if
we
do
a
storage
facility,
we're
talking
130
000
square
feet
right.
E
A
E
Yeah,
I
understand-
and
I
and
I
agree
I
agree-
100
percent.
I
hear
you
loud
and
clear.
You
know
that
the
the
rfp,
when
written
as
written
like
you
said,
is,
is
fairly
loose
on
sustainability
efforts
right,
but
that
rfp
was
written
a
while
ago.
E
Let's
just
just
say
that
right
and
it
has
already
been
discussed
amongst
the
team
and
amongst
purchasing
and
administration
that
if
we
are
going
to
move
forward
with
these
firms
that
once
the
sustainability
study
has
helped
us
to
find,
you
know
what
our
goals
are
going
to
be,
that
we
are
going
to
sit
down
with
them
and
make
sure
that
it's
clearly
defined
what
what
those
goals
are
and
we
will
design
and
build
to
those
goals.
A
I
Thank
you
chair.
I
have
one
question
and
maybe
a
few
questions
or
no
more
questions
depending
on
what
you
say,
ed,
the
no
more
questions
good
call.
I
I
Is
that
real
or
is
that
him
kind
of
talking
out
of
school
because
yikes,
because
what
I'm
hearing
chair
woodward
say
is,
and
when
I
I
understand
you
right,
you're
saying
we're
going
to
come
up
with
round
numbers
of
like
we
need
800
000
square
feet
of
space
to
do
any
number
of
things
and
they
could
go.
Those
800
000
square
feet
could
end
up
here
here
and
here
or
in
this
way.
This
way,
or
this
way,
is
that
right
or
are
you
going
to
give
us
things
back?
That
say
we
put
a
track
here.
E
First
off,
I
think
commissioner
spitz's
explanation
was
pretty
spot-on.
I
think
he's
got
a
good
understanding,
good
understanding
this,
but
I
can't
you
know
I
can't
say
for
sure
right:
we've
done
feasibility
studies
in
the
past,
where
you
know
there
have
been
two
or
three
options
to
choose
from
and
right,
and
here
are
the
pros
and
the
cons
of
each
right.
E
Again,
space
needs
adjacency,
you
know
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
I
wish
I.
E
I
could
tell
you
how
many
options
we're
going
to
bring
you
right
now,
but
I
can't
it
could
be
one
it
could
be.
It
could
be
three,
I'm
anticipating
that
it's
not
going
to
be
a
lot
simply
because,
again
of
the
size
that
we're
talking
about
and
the
special
requirements
for
these
types
of
facilities
and
how
they
need
to
be
constructed.
So
then.
E
As
well
as
as
well
as
security
too,
we
want
to
keep
that
in
mind
that
we
we
want
to
be
able
to
locate
these
facilities
where
we
can
secure
them
and
not
have
you
know
the
public
have
have
easy
access
to
to
the
buildings
right.
I
So
then
there
are
a
couple
more
questions
then
so
part
one
is
when
we
get
that
schematic
back.
Will
it
have
comparisons
of
like
you
know,
than
the
prep
information
we
got
right,
hard
box
buildings
or
hardened
building
hardened
buildings
does
westchester
county?
Have
a
hardened
building,
do
is
montgomery
county?
Have
a
flood
proof
building
does
kings
county?
Have
a
tornado,
you
know.
Are
we
doing
something
that
no
one
else
is
doing
because
we're
better?
Are
we
doing
something?
I
E
Numbers,
so
it
will
include
that
you
know
again,
you
know,
partners
in
architecture
is
the
the
local
firm
and
it
it's
very
typical
on
specialized
facilities
like
this,
that
they
partner
with
a
specialty,
firm
and
that's
what's
being
proposed
here,
is
that
this
firm
will
bring
on
a
subcontractor
out
of
florida.
E
This
is
all
they
do.
This
is
all
they
do.
They
they've
done
dozens,
if
not
more
of
them
and
they're,
so
so
they
bring
that
that
information
and
really
there
are
there,
are
rules
and
regulations
that
that
say,
you
know
we're
not
just
going
to
build
this
to
withstand
a
an
ex
tornado,
because
we
think
it
should
or
that
we
want
to
be
better
than
everybody
else.
There
are
requirements
that
say
you
know
it
must
be
this.
It
must
be
that.
E
J
For
example,
because
we
looked
at
some
of
those
examples
of
others,
but
it
may
not
be
the
same
because
a
building
built
in
southern
california
is
being
designed
to
withstand
you,
know
earthquake
and
fault
line
and
those
aren't
hazards
here.
So
we
don't.
We
don't
want
to
spend
the
money
to
address
a
hazard
that
isn't
a
hazard
here
so
right,
so
they
take
those
hazards
that
fema
says
this
is
what
you
need
to
worry
about
in
your
region
and
then
then.
Yes,
you
look
at
at
other
examples
in
this
region
that
match
those
things
and.
I
That
will
be
part
of
the
feasibility
report
is
that
the
cleveland
county,
whatever
building,
is
hardened
based
on
comparable
things
that
will
be
part
of
the
feasibility
study.
It
won't
just
be
fema
says
we
need
to
make
it
tornado
proof,
because
fema
says
it's
fema
says
and
ingham
county
is
also
doing
something
like
this
or
cook.
County
is
also
right.
We're
going
to
see
examples,
and
yes,.
I
Okay,
now
the
last
thing
I'm
going
to
say,
and
it's
more
of
a
statement-
is
the
the
way
you've
been
talking,
because
I
understand
it's
your
job
as
an
employee
working
in
facilities
in
the
way
that
you
all
have
been
talking
because
you're
in
the
sheriff's
department,
what
you've
been
talking
about,
because
you
run
emergency
operations,
the
it
sounds
as
though,
and
this
kind
of
piggy
backs
off.
What
chair,
woodward,
I
think
was
kind
of
intimating
is
that
it
sounds
to
me
as
though
we
do
need
a
track.
I
It
sounds
to
me
as
though
we
might
need
50
lanes
for
gun
ranges.
Those
are
all
value
statements,
the
18th
district.
If
I
go
to
the
18th
district
and
talk
to
our
residents,
they're
going
to
say
well,
doesn't
the
state
police
have
a
track?
Can't
y'all
do
that?
Why
do
we
have
to
spend
my
hard-earned
tax
dollars
on
a
track
and
those
sorts
of
questions
seem
not
answerable
by
a
transparent
process
if
we're
going
to
be
doing
a
feasibility
study-
and
that
was
my
first
feasibility
study.
I
Yeah,
like
once,
we
start
this,
it
will
be.
Here.
Are
your
three
options.
We
all
kind
of
went
into
the
smoky
room
and
figured
out
what
we
think
is
best
for
our
departments
and
our
units
of
government
using
other
people's
money,
and
that
doesn't
feel
very
good.
And
I
don't
know
that's
how
it
always
goes,
but.
E
That
doesn't
feel
good.
Can
I
mention,
though,
too
right
that
so
I
think
I
understand
your
question,
but
I
also
want
to
mention
too
that
commissioner
spitz
and
commissioner
powell
have
also
been
tasked
with
you
know,
being
part
of
the
I'll
refer
to
it,
as
the
oversight
committee
that
will
be,
will
continue
to
be
part
of
this
process.
E
E
J
C
F
All
right
I'll
keep
it
short.
I
just
wanted
to
touch
on
what
commissioner
markham
said.
I
expect
these
facilities
to
be
state-of-the-art
and
top-of-the-line
environmental,
and
the
only
thing
from
an
option.
Standpoint
for
the
led
rating,
because
that'll
be
to
me,
will
be
called
out
as
a
separate
light
item,
because
what
is
it
going
to
cost
us
to
do
so
when
we
as
a
board
of
commissioners,
need
to
evaluate
that
because
we
ultimately
spend
the
money
right?
We.
H
F
B
B
H
Yes,
sir,
I
had
a
conversation
with
a
commissioner
last
night
about
this
and
I
told
her.
We
agree
100
with
what
she's
saying
exactly
you're
not
going
to
build
something
or
suggest.
H
A
B
A
B
Thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
everyone
and
mr
hardesty,
I
found
your
comments
to
be
greatly
helpful
for
me.
As
I
ponder
this,
you
know
I
pretty
much.
Oh
I
hear
my
alarm
going
off.
I
pretty
much
find
the
need
for
it
established
and
I'm
happy
that
there
was
a
need
needs
assessment
done
where
you
got
buy-in
from
the
community
as
I
understand
it,
or
is
that
coming
down
the
pike,
but
my
concern,
mr
chair,
is
this
firm
partners
in
architecture?
B
In
particular,
you
know
it
doesn't
take
a
lot
to
to
do
our
due
diligence
as
far
as
who's
who
works
at
these
companies,
and
I
actually
don't
see
one
single
person
of
color
on
linkedin
at
all
as
far
as
the
company's
concerned,
and
it's
just
redundant.
I've
been
here
about
eight
months,
and
so
my
comments
are
going
to
close
with
that,
but
then,
when
we
go
to
other
business
I'll
be
speaking
to
that
again,
thank
you.
D
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Charles.
It
actually
starts
leading
to
my
conversation,
and
I
want
to
thank
commissioner
spitz
and
commissioner
powell
for
being
involved
in
this
process,
but
I
mean
I've
talked
to
some
of
you
individually.
I
am
really
displeased
on
how
this
rfp
process
happened.
D
The
reason
why
is
that
we
had
an
authorizing
resolution
that
allowed
for
the
development
of
this
rfp
that
prescribed
in
it,
that
the
board
of
commissioners
will
be
part
of
that
process,
to
design
the
rfp
and
to
review
the
rfp
pro
process
and
for
whatever
reason,
I'm
gonna
say
over
oversight
or
whatever
that
never
happened.
Why
that's
a
problem?
D
I
think
this
gets
to
commissioner
charles
eye
point
that
there
are
policy
priorities
that
have
been
embraced
in
this
county:
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion,
environmental
system,
diverse
groups,
people
in
the
room
discussing
things
the
conversation
sometimes
is
different.
Furthermore,
so
I
guess
my
first
question
is:
why
did
that
happen?
D
E
So
I'll
respond
first
and
I'm
sure
it's
not
going
to
be
an
acceptable
answer,
but
I
was
not
involved
in
that
rfp
or
in
the
mr.
E
D
Okay,
so
it
just
didn't
happen
all
right,
and
am
I
right
that
there
were
no
women
or
people
of
color
part
of
the
rfp
development
and
rfp?
I
mean
on
the
on
the
committee
that
developed
the
rfp
and
slash
reviewed
and
selected
firms.
E
Right
so,
as
far
as
the
rfp,
we
we
use
one
of
our
annual
architect
vendors,
to
help
us
draft
that
and
he's
a
he's,
a
one-man
show
so
jfr
architects
and
then
to
answer
your
other
question.
The
answer
is
no
joan
daniels
from
purchasing
was
involved
in
the
process,
but
I
don't
believe,
like
she
she's,
not
a
voting
member
that
scores
the
rfps,
I'm
asking
for
scores
yeah.
I
appreciate
it.
She
just
she
oversees
the
whole
process
and
makes
sure
it's
kosher.
So.
D
D
E
So
I
know
that
the
resolution
that
was
adopted
that
put
together
what
the
scoring
should
be
is
what
was
followed.
So
if
that
was
in
there,
the
answer
is
yes.
If
it
wasn't,
the
answer
was
no,
because
we
can't
give
preference
to
to
someone
within
oakland
county.
If
that's
not
one
of
the
scoring
criteria.
D
E
I
don't
believe
so
and,
and
the
reason
is
that
the
same
thing
right
we
have
you
know
we
follow.
What's
in
the
resolution
that
was
adopted
by
the
board
and
whatever
the
the
scoring
metrics
are
in,
there
is
what
we
have
to
abide
by
when
scoring
and
selecting
these
firms.
And
again,
that's
that's
part
of
the
job
of
having
joan
daniels
or
a
representative
from
purchasing
there
and
part
of
the
process
is
to
make
sure
that
all
of
that
is
followed.
D
H
D
Got
it,
what
were
any
of
these
are
any
of
these
firms
have
experience
or
experience
working
with
prevailing
wage
jobs,
dave
and
bacon
jobs?
Was
that
even
a
question
asked
of
them?
Why
it's
relevant
in
terms
of
the
pricing
of
these
things
going
forward.
E
So
so
I
don't
know
if
that
was
asked
to
them,
and
maybe
it
wasn't
because
we're
simply
talking
about
right
now,
an
architecture
firm
right
that
is
tasked
with
a
feasibility
study
and
not
a
contractor
that
deals
with
construction
that
would
have
that
would
have
labor.
E
E
D
E
Considering
prevailing
wage
right-
or
I
think
I
think,
when
they're
using
the
square
foot
numbers
they're
they're
using
a
general
number
right.
If,
if
we,
if
we
specify
that
it
must
be
all
prevailing
wage,
then
that's
something
that
we're
going
to
want
to
tell
them
and
and
they're
going
to
want
to
know
up
front
because
it
may
impact
what
the
estimates
are.
D
I
mean
to
thank
you.
I
mean
to
commissioner
marco's
point
of
view
that
they're
in
terms
of
designing
this
building
for
maximum
energy
efficiency
that
wasn't
part
of
the
conversation
or
the
evaluation
of
a
firm
who
has
experience
whether
an
architect
or
engineering
operation
that
I
guess
that
was
a
part
of
the
I
mean.
Based
on
the
conversation
I
mean
going
forward,
we
want
more
energy,
we
want
new,
we
want
the
best
energy
efficiency.
My
point
of
bringing
of
all
these
points
had
commissioners
been
part
of
that
process.
D
I
have
a
hard
time
supporting
this
proposal,
as
is,
and
actually
almost
start
getting
started
to
consider
rebidding
the
entire
thing
to
make
sure
that
these
things
can
be
considered.
It
is,
I
mean,
when
I
mean
unanimous
support
for
that
resolution,
explicitly
told
to
me
that
the
whole
point
of
this
is
to
have
a
commission
the
board
of
commission
executive
office,
the
sheriff
I
mean
homeland
security
working
together
to
kind
of
figure
out
how
to
do
this,
and
that
was
again.
I
mean
I
and
I
I
trust
you
at
your
word.
D
I
mean
that
didn't
happen,
or
whatever
I
mean
it
should
have
happened,
and
I
mean
we
would
have
a
better
product
as
a
result
of
that,
as
it
relates
to
the
the
firms
that
got
selected.
My
next
question
and
mr
harrison
you
started
talking
about
this
with
why
this
I
mean
this,
this
florida
firm
it
I
can.
It
does
not
compute
in
my
head,
11
firms
participated.
We
have
the
most
educated
workforce
in
michigan.
We
have
some
of
the
best
firms
in
the
entire
country.
It
is.
A
D
D
Who
else
has
these
expertise,
because
the
reality
is
if
the
principal
firm
doesn't
have
the
expertise
to
do
this,
then
maybe
we've
hired
the
wrong
principal
firm
and
we
should
be
looking
at
the
one
that
actually
does
have
the
expertise.
Whatever
the
criteria
is
so
I
mean,
I
guess,
I'd
like
you
to
respond
to
that.
D
I
I
realized
I
didn't
realize
you
were
the
one
advocating
for
that
particular
vendor,
but-
and
I
want
to
I
mean-
respect
your
thought
in
that,
but
also
I
mean
under
here
where
I'm
coming
from
that
I
am
laser
focused
and
trying
to
keep
as
much
of
our
public
dollars
in
the
local
economy
as
much
as
possible,
and
it's
I'm
hard-pressed
to
understand
that
this
florida
firm
is
the
is
the
only
one
in
this
area
that
can
actually
provide
the
service.
Two.
J
D
J
That
that
one,
the
the
green
space
and
lead-
and
all
that
was
a
question
that
was
asked
of
every
vendor
and
was
a
discussion
point
all
the
way
through
there,
because
we
knowing
that
they're
moving
that
direction.
As
far
as
the
local
architects,
the
especially
the
the
hardened
facilities,
are
so
special,
even
the
firms
that
have
a
footprint
locally,
none
of
their
people
were
from
here.
The
engineers
that
they're
proposing
that
will
do
this
were
from
either
virginia
florida
or
california.
J
So
there
are.
There
are
none
of
them
that
bid
on
this
project
that
the
engineers
that
would
handle
that
part
of
it
are
based
in
michigan,
they're,
all
based
somewhere
else
and
would
be
coming
here.
Just
for
that,
and
and
this
firm
out
of
florida
is
the
one
who's
done,
combined
9-1-1
and
eoc
centers,
but
really
in.
J
Is
it's
not
just
about
saying?
Okay,
you
want
a
building,
that's
this
size
to
do
this.
We
can
do
it.
This
building.
This
company
actually
has
ideas
and
things
like
that
to
help
make
it
better
and
to
maybe
even
make
it
more
affordable.
You
know
thinking
about
things
like
if
you're
going
to
go
through
the
cost
of
doing
this.
Do
you
even
consider
putting
some
sort
of
data
center
there,
because
now
you
have
a
hardened
facility
and
now
you're,
that's
another
area
of
protection
that
you've
done
for
the
county.
J
So
that's
why
they
stood
out
over
and
above,
but
there
were.
There
was
not
a
single
engineer
proposed
for
that
facility.
That
was
from
michigan
for
many
of
the
firms
you
have
two
firms.
There
was
another
one
ecom
that
had
they
have
a
footprint
in
oakland
county,
but
their
their
engineers,
for
that
were
out
of
virginia.
They
would
not
be
from
here.
They
would
fly
in
to
discuss
this
just
like
just
like
the
other
firms.
C
Jump
in
for
a
second
with
no
you're
good
just
so
I
don't
come
back
with
this
question.
While
we're
talking
about
it,
you
talk
about
the
the
engineers
come
from
somewhere
else,
and
this
goes
to
an
argument
that
I've
had
a
lot
of
times.
Is
the
money
stays
here,
though,
in
the
county
right?
C
Why
wasn't
that
something
that
we
didn't
put
in
there?
Because
it
doesn't
that
shouldn't
be
in
it
like
a
thing
like?
Well,
we're
going
to
go
with
them
because
they're
going
to
have
meetings,
we
should
automatically
say
you
got
to
have
meetings
with
the
community
about
this.
That's
part
of
the
the
rfp
right
part
of
the
process
or
why
aren't
we
having
the
meetings
right
with
the
company
there?
So
those
are
the
two
things
that
I
had.
J
And
none
of
those
points
are
unvalid.
I
I
would
just
go
back
especially
to
the
building
part
they're.
It's
they're
highly
highly
specialized
with
the
technology
and
the
integration
of
these,
and
it's
a
it's
a
only
a
a
handful
of
companies,
not
just
it
worldwide.
Really
that
would
be
qualified
to
it's
a
huge
investment.
I
mean
that
the
likelihood,
if
you
did
all
three
of
these
buildings
is
that
that
building
would
be
the
most
expensive
because
of
the
hard
it's
a
huge
financial
commitment
and
wanting
to
make
sure
that
that
commitment
is
done
properly.
J
That's
my
my
biggest
concern
you're
going
to
spend
all
that
money
that
it's
invested
properly
I've.
Unfortunately,
I've
been
through
a
new
building,
build
with
a
new
public
safety
building
and
know
some
of
the
headaches
that
went
with
it
and
and
things
that
we
wish.
We
could
have
done
differently
and
trying
to
it
doesn't
mean
it's
not
working,
but
just
trying
to
make
sure
you
do
it
right
the
first
time,
because
it
is
a
big
commitment.
E
And
if
I,
if
I
can
add
to
that
too,
so
you
know
really
these
specialty
companies,
you
know
you
know
there
are
really
only
a
handful
of
them.
You
know,
like
mr
hardish,
he
was
saying
either
in
the
country
acro
across
the
world.
You
know
they
and
they
don't.
They
don't
bid
on
these
projects
directly.
They
prefer
to
partner
up
with
with
local
firms.
So,
as
mr
hardesty
mentioned
there,
none
of
them
bid
directly
on
this
job.
E
What
happens
is
the
specialty
firms
will
will
know
that
the
job
is
being
bid
and
they
will
reach
out
to
local
firms.
More
typically,
what
happens
is
the
local
firms,
whoever
wants
to
bid
it
they
reach
out
to
these
specialty
firms
and
say
hey
as
part
of
our
proposal.
We
want
to
partner
with
you
and
bring
your
expertise
on
board.
E
It
was
the
same
process
with
the
animal
care
center.
I
think
there
was
three
to
five
experts
in
those
type
of
facilities
that
that
were
identified,
and
you
know
we
we
contracted
with
a
local
architecture
firm
and
they
partnered
up
with
a
firm
out
of
colorado
that
specializes
in
those
types
of
facilities.
D
Again,
I
I
believe
that
this
rfp
review
process
flawed,
largely
because
some
of
the
these
policy
priorities
are
part
of
this
board
and
certainly
way
heavy
on
me
in
deciding
any
desire
to
appropriate
the
monies
that
actually
build
this
not
being
caught
in
the
front
end.
And
if
we
I
mean
when
we
talk
about
structural
issues
that
allow
the
perpetuation
of
things
that
have
been
happening.
D
It's
because
that
we
are
not
taking
the
time
to
actually
break
through
those,
more
importantly,
making
certain
that
we
have
people
in
the
room
that
can
help
make
sure
that
those
issues
are
brought
to
light.
So
I've
got
some.
I
mean
kind
of
the
my
opportunity.
Well,
I
guess
and
capital
improvements
I
mean
I
just
weighing.
H
D
D
First
of
all,
this
is
about
a
50
about
50,
more
expensive
than
what
we
kind
of
set
aside
originally
to
I
mean
to
do
this,
the
second
there's
the
opportunity
cost
that
we
have
significant
infrastructure
needs
in
this
county.
We
have
a
jail,
that's
roof
is
leaking.
We
have
a
records
room
that
flooded.
D
I
can
only
imagine
that,
there's
more,
that
I
mean,
thank
god.
Terrible
things
haven't
happened
that
needs
sizable
investment,
so,
like
my
comfort
level,
to
allocate
1.5
million
dollars
for
a
building,
we
have
no
money
to
pay
for
versus
addressing
our
house
our
home.
I
mean
our
current
infrastructures
to
look
at
this
in
a
vacuum
without
recognizing
the
infrastructure
needs
around
is
problematic
for
me
and
so
from
an
opportunity
cost
the
fact
that
it's
again
more
expensive
than
what
we
thought
it
would
be
able
to
do.
I've
talked
to
some
of
my
colleagues
I'm
looking.
D
Can
we
look
at
phase
one
and
just
do
phase
one,
and
then
I
mean
does
that
bring
the
cost
down
to
keep
it
more
within
kind
of
the
set-aside
funds
available
for
this
project
versus
drawing
and
other
things
that,
frankly,
in
my
opinion,
is
better
suited
to
address,
to
minimize
overcrowding
in
the
jails
and-
and
I
mean
preservation
of
evidence
and
these
other
things,
because
we
need
a
solution
to
those,
and
I
realize
that
I
don't
pulled
off
the
agenda
and
I
think,
looking
for
another
funding
source
to
figure
out
another
way
to
pay
for
these
things
we
need
to,
I
mean
that's,
got
to
get
taken
care
of
again.
D
I
I'm
supportive
of
training.
I'm
support.
I
mean
everyone
knows
that
I
want
a
bigger
dispatch
center
to
maybe
frankly
force
the
merger
more
dispatch
to
save
costs
that
we,
I
think
we
are
necessarily
putting
out
there
as
well
as
a
state-of-the-art
emergency
operation
center.
But
I
mean
there
are
other
things
that
I
believe
also
have
a
higher
priority.
D
So
I
mean
I
struggle
with
the
appropriation
of
dollars
for
something
that
you
we,
we
don't
have
a
funding
source
to
be
able
to
do
this.
Now,
I'm
very
happy
to
hear
that
my
colleague,
the
republican
caucus
at
the
a
tax
proposal
county
wide
that
might
be
one
way,
but
it's
not.
We
don't
think
that's
all
high
in
the
sky,
we're
out.
We
don't
have
the
money
to
be
able
to
do
this.
E
Yeah,
I
just
say
something
real
quick
part
of
me
feels
like
I
need
to
defend
myself
here.
You
know
you'd
mention
that
this
is
50
more
than
what
was
originally
thought,
and
again
I
I
just
you
know
want
wanted
to
be
known
that
I
have
no
idea
where
that
number
came
from.
I
was
not
involved.
My
department
had
no
idea
that
the
resolution
was
even
written
and
brought
and
brought
to
the
board
like
I
was
contacted
after
the
fact
and
and
asked
to
be
part
of
the
process
and
helping
with
the
rfp
and
getting.
D
D
And
it
is
really
insulting
to
this
board
in
my
opinion-
and
I
will
defend
this
board-
that
they
were
locked
at
me
knocked
out
it
probably
more
exaggerated
tournament
left
out
of
this
process
and
my
frankly,
my
lack
of
support
for
this
resolution
is
probably
most
rooted
into
that
and
I
have
been
struggling
trying
to
find
a
way
to
get
to
yes
and
to
kind
of
make
up
that
round.
But
it's
it's
grossly
unacceptable
and
I
don't
short
of
requiring
every
rfp
process
to
have
a
board
representation
on
or
something
like
that.
D
I
mean
to
guarantee
that
the
ones
that
we
we
want
to
be
clear
stakeholders
in-
and
I
know
this
is
actually
a
shared
sentiment.
So
I'm
going
to
voice
it.
It
shouldn't
have
happened,
and
I
and
I
do-
and
I
do
appreciate-
I
mean
commissioner
spitz
and
commissioner
powell
put
in
the
time
to
kind
of
look
at
something
after
the
decision
has
been
made
to
kind
of
like
look
at
that.
But
that's
not
good
enough.
It's
not
good
enough
for
me.
E
Yeah-
and
I
and
I
understand
it-
was
late
right-
I'm
not
going
to
deny
that
I
will.
You
know
the
decision
was
not
made.
You
know
it
was.
It
was
narrowed
down,
but
there
was
no
like
contract
awarded.
There
was
no
communication
with
the
firm
that
they
would
be
selected,
so
so
their
involvement
did
happen
shortly
before
that.
E
Who
who
the
proposed
firm
would
be
and
what
the
amount
would
be,
was
that
information
that
the
all
the
bid
results,
the
rfp
responses
were
shared
with
the
commissioners,
correct
commission,
commissioner
spitz
and
commissioner
powell.
D
D
E
D
E
E
B
Yes,
thank
you
being
one
of
two
new
commissioners
here
I
do
feel
compelled
to
ask
through
the
chair
to
the
board
chair
first.
B
Kidding
you'd
be
surprised,
however,
you
mentioned
about
the
potential
of
re-rfping
this
thing
and
I
just
wanted
you
to
explain
what
the
pros
and
cons
of
something
such
as
that,
because
currently
you
know
mr
cavell
and
myself
are
hearing
that
a
lot
of
this
was
done.
Pre
us-
and
I
certainly
don't
want
to
be
grouped
up
into
less
than
stellar
actions
by
the
board.
B
So
I'd
love
to
hear
about
that,
because
it
seems
reasonable
what
the
expectations
were
and
again,
I
don't
think
we
as
a
board
as
a
county,
have
a
policy
that
we
can
even
stand
by
when
it
comes
to
procurement
and
vendors
per
corporation
council
about
what
you
can't
even
ask
you
know
some
things
are
off
the
table,
so
you
know
I'm
in
this
gray
area
of.
Can
we
even
ask
those
things
if
it
were
to
come
to
us
and
again?
C
D
Like
my
personal
issues,
with
some
of
that
process,
I
don't
think
that
there's
anything
that
precludes
us
from
bidding
this
out
now
doing
so.
Would
I
mean
there's
a
hiccup,
I
mean
it
will
take
time
and
all
those
types
of
stuff,
but
I
don't,
I
firmly
believe,
that's
within
the
the
authorization
that
this
board
authorized,
this
rfp
to
go
out
and
there's
no
reason
why
we
can't
authorize
another
to
go
out,
and
I
guess
the
third
option
is
like.
Is
there
something
that
can
be
done?
D
Is
there
language
that
can
be
added
to
this
resolution
that
tries
to
establish
kind
of
like
a
bridge
between
those
two
options?
And
I
mean
the
short
answer
might
be?
No,
that
there
might
be
some
things
that
we
can
add
things
that
come
to
mind.
Some
of
the
questions
that
I
raised,
I
mean
I
I
mean
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
I'm
I'm
not
going
to
build
any
new
building.
I
love
building
new
buildings,
I'm
not
building
any
new
buildings,
that's
not
lead
gold
certified
or
better
ever
significant
renovations.
D
D
I
think
an
absolute
a
require
requirements
that
that
the
vendor
selected
in
kind
of
these
preliminary
stages,
that
we
we
put
a
requirement
to
go
out
to
bid
for
construction
and
all
those
types
of
things
and,
frankly,
because
the
way
I
mean
I
mean
I've
been
around
enough,
I
mean
the
nature
of
the
this
business
is.
Is
that
these
these
firms
want
to
help
build
this
building?
D
And
I
don't
fault
them
for
it,
but
I
mean
be
clear
that
we're
going
to
go
out
to
bid
with
a
process
that
I
mean
I
mean
with
board
participation
on
any
selection
of
on
the
engineering
and
the
final
construction.
Those
final
phases
of
the
development
project,
the
a
requirement
that
that
any
cost
estimate
estimate
estimation
june
is
at
the
right
estimate,
estimate.
D
Is
done
considering
compliance
with
a
a
davis
bacon
act
project
or
paying
prevailing
wage,
especially
since
I
mean
I
hope
I
mean
frankly,
if
we
don't
come
up
with
some
federal
funding,
I
don't
even
understand
how
we're
ever
gonna
get
the
money
to
be
able
to
build.
This
movie.
Don't
have
the
money,
but
but
I
mean
like
that.
D
Those
are
like
requirements,
and
so
I
think
those
like
considerations
might
I
mean
help
address
some
of
the
things
oh,
and
I
think
we
put
some
intentionality
any
like
subcontracting
or
additional
subcontracting
or
whatever,
or
I
mean,
can
we
go
back
to
the
drawing
board
until
I
looked
at
I
mean:
are
there
oakland
county
firms?
Are
there
firms
with
a
women-owned
traditionally
disadvantaged
veteran,
which
is
a
criteria
that
the
federal
government
uses?
So
these
are
things
we
can
ask,
and
these
are
things
that
we
can
award
points
to.
D
If
you
will
on
a
point,
structure
also
might
be
part
of
a
more
macro
conversation,
but
it
certainly
needs
to
be
a
conversation
when
we
start
getting
into
the
80
million
side
of
the
leisure.
So
I
would
like
staff
to
I
mean
see.
I
mean
check
to
see
if
I
missed
anything,
but
I
mean
I
think
those
are
really
kind
of
the
three
choices
before
us.
Thank.
B
F
Commissioner
space,
thank
you,
mr
chair,
just
to
touch
on
a
couple
of
the
comments
here.
Yes,
we
as
a
board
could
always
go
back
out
and
push
for
another
rfp
to
me.
There's
risk
with
that,
because
we
already
have
one
we've
had
11
vendors
that
already
quoted
that
they
know
what
the
numbers
they
put
in
all
right
and
I
wouldn't
be
surprised
if
they
know
approximately
where
their
competitors
are.
F
So
then
you
start
to
drive
changes
in
their
numbers
and
sharpening
those
pencils
and
things
that
to
me
become
unethical
to
a
degree
right
from
a
bidding
process
standpoint.
Unless
we're
going
to
have
major
changes
in
our
scope
and
our
requirements,
which,
from
what
I
sound
heard
around
the
table,
I
don't
think
there's
major
changes
in
the
scope.
There's
a
couple
things
I
think
we're
discussed
but
may
not
be
in
the
requirements
document
like
leed
certified,
because
according
mr
hardesty,
that
was
discussed,
environmental
sustainability
topics
were
there.
F
So
to
me,
there's
a
high
risk
of
going
out
and
doing
that
again
outside
of
timing.
Normally,
you
know
for
me
I
timing
is
important,
but
it's
not
critical
doing.
The
right
thing
is
critical
right
and
I
think
the
information
that
we
have
in
the
current
rfp
is
not
going
to
change
much
if
we
may,
if
we
put
our
two
cents
into
it
right,
it's
the
experts
are
here,
we're
going
to
add
a
little
bit
here,
a
little
bit
there
and
then
touch
on
commissioner
woodward's
point.
F
On
top
of
that,
we
probably
need
to
have
bigger
discussions,
which
I
know
we
have
talked
about
from
a
capital
investment
program
as
an
entire
county,
because
I'm
concerned
about
some
of
those
topics
you
brought
up
too.
This
is
a
feasibility
study
only
to
get
us
prepared
to
make
those
decisions.
Without
this
information,
we
don't
have
good
data
to
make
those
decisions.
F
So
to
me,
this
is
a
step
getting
us
towards
the
end
game
where
we
want
to
get
to
now.
Do
we
build
this
building
in
two
years?
Three
years,
five
years
we
have
to
have
a
good
capital
improvement
plan
to
be
able
to
do
that,
and
we
need
this
information
to
say.
Okay,
we
as
a
as
a
county
are
gonna
look
at
building
x
out
of
the
three
four
two
proposals
we
get
out
of
this
feasibility
study.
That's
how
I
look
at
it.
F
B
B
F
B
E
Yeah
and
if
and
if
I
made
two
commissioner
woodward,
you
know
you
mentioned
the
the
firm
in
their
lead
experience,
you
know
it,
I'm
not
sure
I
know
of
any
firms
in
the
area
nowadays
that
don't
have
almost
top
to
bottom
lead
expertise
right
almost.
I
do
okay,
okay.
Well,
in
my
experience
that.
D
Well,
I
mean
they'll
say
they
do
okay
and
then
there's
like
like
certified
u.s
green
building,
council,
architects,
yeah
that
really
do
right,
yeah
I've
heard.
Even
when
we
built
that
animal
shelter
building.
I
thought
this
fight,
then
I
said
I
was
like
oh
we're
doing
all
those
things
we
just
don't
call
it
lead,
I'm
like
yeah
that
doesn't
work,
so
I
I
mean
I'm
sure
there
is
there.
There's
expect.
I
mean
there
is
expertise.
I
mean
I
again.
I
D
E
Out
no,
no,
no
yeah,
but
but
again
you
know
I'll
just
keep
leaning
on
that.
You
know.
We've
we've
been
giving
those
guidelines
right
and
if,
if
you
know
lead
accreditation
or
expertise
is
something
that's
an
important
criteria,
then
then
by
all
means,
but
but
we're
we're
trying
to
to
follow
the
rules
as
as
they've
been
written
right,
and
then
you
know
to
echo
commissioner
spitz's
points
about.
You
know
the
other
criteria
that
commissioner
woodward
mentioned.
E
E
Because
to
commissioner
charles
point
you
know,
I'm
I'm
not
sure
that
you
know
I'm
not,
I'm
not
the
purchasing
department,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
we
can.
Actually,
you
know,
use
some
of
those
other
criterias
legally
right
and
again,
I'm
not.
I
haven't
left
out
some
of
the
things
that
that
you
had
brought
up
and
mentioned
because
they
weren't
important
to
me
right.
E
I
and
again
it's
super
helpful
to
have
purchasing
as
part
of
the
process,
because
they
are
making
sure
that
everything
that
we're
doing
is
by
the
book
and
as
it's
been
spelled
out
for
us
right
and
and
in
the
team
that
was
brought
together
for
reviewing
the
rfps
are,
are
the
technical
expert
right
folks
from
the
sheriff's
office
and
and
from
emergency
management?
And,
and
you
know,
one
person
from
facilities,
management.
I
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
and
then
another
quick
thing
to
say:
did
I
hear
you
right,
mr
herticy
saying
there
are
no
hardened
facilities?
You
were
answering
someone's
question.
You
said:
there's
no
hardened
facilities
around.
J
State,
for
example,
emergency
operations,
center
statement
hardened
facilities
to
that
level.
The
the
only
one
that
I'm
aware
of
is
the
state
emergency
operations
center,
which
was
just
built
a
few
years
ago.
Okay,
not
no,
it's
not
to
say
there
might
be
a
private
industry
data
center.
I'm
sure
there
are
social.
I
I
Okay,
I
would
love
to
learn
more
and
I
don't
know
if
this
is
a
now
thing
and
if
it's
a
y'all
thing
but
the
rfp
process
right,
because
since
it
started
coming
up
because
it
does
sound
a
lot
like
what
happened,
whoever's
fault
it
is
or
whoever
said
what
or
didn't
say
what
not
the
point.
But
the
end
result
is,
commissioner
involvement
sounds
like
recommendations
were
created
and
then
provided
to
commissioners
and
commissioner
powell,
and
the
reason
that's
alarming
to
me
is
because
I
have
an
amendment
that
I
was
going
to
bring
up
that.
I
I
talked
to
everybody,
but
I
feel
uncomfortable
now
because
it
seems
like
the
amendment
is
about
helping
create
more
oversight
so
that,
as
part
of
the
process
of
the
feasibility
study,
there
could
be
more
insight
or
more
insight
offered
by
commissioners
and
others
involved.
But
it
feels
like
that
wasn't
heated
before,
for
whatever
reason
by
whoever.
So
I
feel
not
confident
now
it
sounds
like
someone's
got
a
response.
Okay,.
B
If
I
can
mr
chair
first
of
all,
I
think
we,
we
acknowledge
the
oversight,
and
you
know
very
much
supportive
of
the
amendment
that
you
have
put
together.
I
think
the
conversation
here
today
really
indicated
the
need
to
widen
this
conversation
to
include
more
voices
and
more
thoughts
as
it
relates
to
the
bid
evaluation
process.
B
So
I
think
this
is
a
very
good
conversation
to
have
and
to
bring
in
sean,
carlson
and
scott
guzy
and
talk
about
the
board's
ideas
and
direction
they
would
like
to
take
us
in
in
terms
of
amending
the
purchasing
policy,
to
include
those
factors
and
include
those
voices
that
the
chairman
mentioned
all
very
good
points.
But
we
are
at
a
point
now,
where
we're
really
just
looking
at.
B
Do
we
appropriate
money
for
an
architect
that
was
selected
by
you
know
at
a
bid
evaluation
process
that
was
in
conformance
with
our
purchasing
policy,
but
clearly
an
oversight
was
was
made
in
the
implementation
and
with
including
voices
from
the
commissioners
board
of
commissioners.
B
C
Yeah
and
judge
just
give
me
just
a
point
of
information
for
the
new
commissioners
it
so
if
it
is
not
saying
it's
going
to
go
this
way
or
not
go
this
way,
if
it
is
turned
down,
then
they
will
have
to
reevaluate
and
the
process
could
be
done.
The
way
that
the
oversight
happened.
C
Just
so
you
know
it
can
be
brought
up
again
if
it
is
turned
down
or
if
it
goes
through,
then
we
go
through
and
then
we
bring
in
the
executive
office
and
we
can
go
forward
with
that,
so
it
can
still
go
forward
even
if
it's
turned
down
just
so.
You
know
like
we
can
come
up
with
another
resolution.
You
know
have
more
involvement,
so
just
since
you
guys
are
new.
I
know
these.
D
Yeah
I
mean
it's
like
so
I
speak
to
all
commissioners,
it's
like,
so
we
have
a
resolution
before
us
brought
forth
the
recommendation.
All
the
things
that
we've
been
talking
today
board
ultimately
we're
doing
two
things.
We
are
appropriating
the
funds
and
we're
selecting
the
vendors
right
right,
that's
another
day
and
so
yeah
either
of
those
two
things
can
be
modified.
We
could
appropriate
more
money.
We
could
appropriate
less
money.
We
could
actually
even
change
vendors.
D
That
way
that
I
mean
not,
that
it
doesn't
come
without
complications,
but
it's
that
it's,
my
preference,
would
be
able
to
get
to
a
place
that
people
feel
more
comfortable
with
us.
I
just
don't
know
I
I
I'll
just
let
everyone
I
can't
support
this
at
this
time,
but
everyone,
I
don't
think,
there's
anyone
who
knows
that
I
wasn't
going
to.
I
E
Yeah
there
was
one,
I
believe
was
there
one
that
for
the
training
center
that
the
sheriff's
head.
H
The
previous
administration
many
years
ago
submitted
to
them
some
some
drawings,
etc.
This
sheriff's
been
asking
for
this
for
15
years,
so
the
previous
administration,
I
don't
know
if
you'd
call
it
a
feasibility
study,
but
there
was
documents
and
things
that
were
submitted
to
the
previous
administration.
Regarding
these,
the
eoc,
the
dispatch
and
the
training
facility.
I
Okay-
and
that
was
part
of
that,
will
be
part
of
this
conversation
with
these
architects.
If
this
is
important,
I
don't
think
so,
sir.
This
was
this
is
ten
years
ago,
gotcha!
Okay,
thank
you,
okay,
and
also
just
credit
where
credit
is
due.
I
want
to
say,
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
our
talk
on
monday,
about
procurement
purchasing
that
you
arranged
with
me
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
so
I
appreciate
you,
sorry
you
feel
beat
up,
but.
I
C
I
have
a
couple
questions.
I
have
a
slew
of
questions
actually,
absolutely
yes,
so
can
the
question
for
me,
can
this
building
be
one
building
potentially
just
potentially,
can
it
be
one.
E
Can
I
answer
beyond
yes
and
no
yeah
so
of
cour?
Of
course?
Yes,
right
physically,
it's
possible,
but
without
doing
the
feasibility
study
just
very
high
level,
we
don't
think
it
is
economical
to
do
it
that
way,
because
the
requirements
for
the
eoc
and
911
center
as
far
as
a
hardened
building
are
much
more
than
the
training
center
would
be
so
to
take.
E
You
know,
instead
of
building
a
you
know,
75
000
square
foot,
building,
that's
hardened
to
meet
those
requirements
and
then
building
an
80
000
square
foot
that
would
have
less
requirements
which
of
course,
would
be
cheaper.
We
combined
them
and
now
now
the
whole
155
thousand
square
feet
has
to
be
completely
hardened,
which
is
really
going
to
escalate
the
price.
Okay.
C
It
just
asks
because
when
I
did
get
elected
the
first
time
we
met
with
the
sheriff
under
sheriff,
and
it
was
said
that
this
was
already
in
in
the
works
and
but
the
dispatch
center
needs
to
be
underground.
So
it
can
sustain
any
kind
of
attack
or
anything
not.
H
Necessarily
on
the
ground,
but
to
me
that
was
recommended
to
meet
right
standards
to
being
hard
right.
If
you
remember
in
1972,
when
the
jail
opened,
I
wasn't
born.
Yet
I
don't
remember
our
dispatch
and
our
eoc
were
underground
so
way
back
when
in
the
1960s,
when
that
place
was
designed,
somebody
had
their
app
together
yeah
before
even
standards
were
in
place
to
make
sure
it
was
in
a
hard
place.
If
a
category
5
tornado
came
through,
our
dispatch
in
eoc
was
still
up.
C
H
C
C
E
C
It
was
introduced
to
me
when
I
first
got
elected
right
and
then
so
will
there
also
if
this
goes
forward
and
we
potentially
go
with
a
new
building
or
buildings,
will
there
be
a
study
on
what
to
do
with
the
the
existing
buildings
that
are
going
to
be
vacated.
E
And-
and
that
and
that's
likely
you
know,
I
don't,
I
don't
want
to
say
that
you
know
that's
the
plan,
but
one
of
the
studies
that
we're
engaged
in
right
now
with
plant
moran.
The
cip
study,
is
going
to
help
evaluate
that
again
that
they're
they're,
looking
at
all
the
departments,
the
size
are
remote
working
conditions
now,
and
you
know
this
is
one
of
the
potential
things
that
could
impact
that.
So
yes,
so.
C
If
they're,
if
they're
bulldozed
as
the
undersheriff
says,
which
that's
I
appreciate,
that's
my
work
right
and
my
other
job
is,
but
could
you
actually
potentially
put
a
building
there
that
we're
talking
about
instead
of
a
using
space
that,
like
acreage,
that's
open
space.
E
So
so
we
could
pot
possibly-
and
that
will
be
one
of
the
things
that
we
look
at
but
again
keeping
in
mind
this
the
size
right.
So
you
know,
if
you
look
at
the
the
you
know
the
handful
of
buildings
that
potentially
could
be
bulldozed
if
we
can
downsize
or
if
or
whatever
it
may
be.
You
know
these
are.
These
are
very
big
facilities.
E
What
is
a
square
mile,
forty
three
thousand
five
hundred
and
sixty
square
feet,
or
something
that
it's
like
a
square
mile
of
of
space.
Just
one
of
these
facilities
by
themselves
is
almost
double
that
so
to
tear
down
any
of
our
existing
buildings.
Unless
we
want
to
look
at
tearing
down
the
building
that
we're
in
might
might
be
tough
but
but
not
to
say,
we
won't
look
at
it.
J
A
J
E
C
The
the
the
retrofit
equipment
that
was
brought
up
that
was
in
these
different
buildings
can
that
some
of
that
be
used
for
this
potential.
New
buildings
can
be
reused.
C
Training
center
or
wherever
you've
done
yeah
equipment
would
come
into
the
new
building
yeah.
Just
like
cost
savings.
You
know
absolutely
looking
at
it
all
right.
I
wouldn't
throw
it
it's.
How
my
mind
works
right
and
then
so
this
one
has
to
do
with
brandon
township
is:
would
there
be
any
impact
to
brandon
township?
If
we
pull
out
of
there
seeing
that
there's
you
know
the
deputies.
Are
there
they
shop
there,
they
coffee,
whatever
they
do
there
and,
and
is
it
I
if
I
understand
it's
privately
owned
right,
so
it
wouldn't.
H
Yes,
sir,
it's
a
developer
that
bought
that
it's
the
old
high
school
then
became
the
middle
school
and
then
they
built
a
new
high
school
into
middle
school.
So
the
answer
to
your
question
is
he:
his
plans
were
originally
he's
going
to
build
he's
going
to
turn
that
into
a
community
center
to
service
community.
So
we're
kind
of
like
a
stop
gap
measure
where
you
know
he
can
get
some
income
from
a
building.
H
C
F
J
F
H
C
All
right,
so
this
has
to
do
with
the
outdoor
range.
Is
there
any
any
possibility?
We
can
use
one
of
our
parks?
That's
heavily
wooded
for
an
outdoor
range.
C
F
G
H
I
tell
you
this
building
ranges
is
not
real
popular
with
a
lot
of
communities.
I
don't
know
if
you
remember
many
years
ago,
in
the
city
of
troy,
they
were
going
to
put
a
range
in
behind
the
police
department.
They
had
a
huge
huge
berm
wall
there
and
the
residents
came
unglued
and
it
never
got
built.
Yeah.
F
C
A
C
It's
just
a
question:
I'm
sorry
just
the
question
and
then
to
speak
it
to
piggyback
on
commissioner
markham.
We
have
a
lot
of
parking
space
that
potentially
isn't
used,
and
I
do
understand
that
we
have
to
have
some
certain
amount
of
handicap
spaces
per
per
square
footage
of
building.
But
how
come
we
haven't
built
a
skid
pad?
You
know
on
location
here
at
all
just
question:
I'm
just
curious.
H
Well,
I
just
said
the
money
to
do
it
number
one
and
the
space
to
do
it.
Okay
and
we
don't
even
know
if
it's
feasible
here,
I've
been
there
yeah
we
for
years
we
used,
we
used
the
pine
knob
parking
lot.
Then
we
used
the
mall
parking
lot,
but
that's
being
developed
into
a
high
tech
center.
So
that's
going
to
be
off
the
you
know
that
fact,
that's
all
been
torn
up
as
you've
seen
it's
been
demolished
and
currently
we're
renting
school
craft
of
the
police
academy
at
schoolcraft
college,
which
is
down
in
limonia.
C
All
right
and
then
just
just
to
make
this
clear-
and
I
know
this
answer
already,
but
this
does
not
lock
us
into
any
construction
contracts
that
rfp
will
go
out
later
correct,
correct,
okay
and
then,
let's
see,
is
there
a
do?
We
do
a
evaluation
of
each
building
of
the
sheriff's
buildings.
Have
we
evaluated
them
where
they're
at
code,
wise
or
upgrades
or
what
happens
in
buildings
yeah.
E
So
yes
right
is:
we
have
different
evaluations,
you
know
in
our
capital
improvement
program,
we
have
lines
for
multiple
things
that
include
ada
safety,
just
condition
of
the
building.
C
All
right,
and
then
this
one
I
have
is-
we
talked
about
average
square
footage.
You
know,
commissioner,
chairman
woodward
brought
up
davis
bacon
prevailing
wage.
Is
there
a
potential
to
do
an
average
between
you
know?
So
we
get.
Can
we
get
like
the
middle
right?
We're
not
going
lowest
we're
not
going
highest.
We're
going
the
middle
so
average,
instead
of
like,
as
you
say,
lowest
bidder
type
deal,
is
that
potential
we
can
do.
E
Yes,
and
I
think,
typically
that's
how
square
foot
numbers
are
are
generated.
You
know
it's
been.
It's
been
a
moving
target
lately
right
with
with
kovid,
but
but
in
general,
in
the
past,
when
we
have
construction,
managers
and
architects
help
us
with
cost
estimates,
knowing
that
it
is
a
right
to
work
state
and
we
don't
have
the
option
to
mandate
prevailing
wage.
C
And
I
appreciate
that,
and
that
leads
me
into
so
the
numbers
could
change
potentially
next
year
or
so
we
get
this
feasibility
plan,
we're
not
going
to
build
it
tomorrow
right,
so
the
numbers
could
potentially
change
because
the
material
cost
goes
down
potentially
right,
so
we
could
save
a
ton
of
money.
I
am
very
optimistic.
Yes,.
C
E
Yeah
right
yeah,
so
so
typically,
you
know
if
there's
an
anticipated
shovel
in
the
ground
date.
There
is
an
inflation
number
added
to
that,
but
you're
right
it
could
go
down
because
of
what
we're
experiencing
with
material
and
labor
right.
It's
it's
a
better,
a
bit
of
a
guessing
game
where
we
just
really
have
to
rely
on
the
experts
that
are
in
the
field
every
day
trying
to
get
a
sense
of
it
themselves.
C
F
C
E
Hopefully,
that's
what's
going
to
mention
good
yeah,
the
contingency
will
help
with
that
and,
like
you
said,
you
know,
you
know
before
this
thing
can
can
be
built
right,
we're
coming
back
to
you
with
hard
numbers
yeah
from
construction
managers
who
have
bit
all
the
sub
trades
and
what
those
dollar
amounts
are
and
and
once
we
enter
into
contract
with
them.
You
know
if
things
fluctuate,
we
like
they're
bound
to
the
terms
of
that
contract.
E
C
I
F
F
F
F
F
F
A
C
B
C
Thank
you.
So
I
believe
we
have
amendment
introduced.
C
Removed
by
commissioner
woodward
supported
by
commissioner
wiper,
and
then
we
got
our
discussion
down
here.
If
I
can't.
B
Issues
here
from
my
sloppy
work,
the
the
first,
whereas
there
is
duplicated
in
the
second,
whereas
if
you
could
just
delete
that
one
first
round,
yeah
delete.
B
B
The
rest
of
this
you
know
goes
through
we're
going
to
continue
with
the
plan
to
appropriate
and
that
the
board
of
commissioners
shall
perform
a
critical
analysis
of
the
bid
responses
for
the
rfp
and
the
evaluations
utilized
to
recommend
the
lowest
qualified
bidder
and
that
the
board
of
commissioners
shall
be
afforded
participation
in
the
process,
as
required
by
the
resolution,
as
was
discussed
here
today
again
so
moving
forward
just
some
moving
language
around
by
continuing
the
appropriation
and
then,
if
you
go
to
the
last
page,
there
you
further
resolve
the
study,
commit
study
group
of
the
board
consisting
of
two
members
of
the
majority.
B
One
member
of
the
minority
show
the
doctor
critical
review
of
the
bid
evaluation
process,
factors
and
recommendations
of
the
bid
award
following
this.
I'm
sorry
got
it
following
this
review.
The
study
group
shall
report
to
the
board
a
recommendation
to
a
proceed
with
recommendation
as
presented
or
proceeded
with
a
recommendation
with
amendment
or
conduct
the
new
rfp
and
bid
evaluation
process
and
then,
finally,
the
funds
may
not
be
expanded
from
its
appropriation
until
the
study
group
issues,
its
recommendations
and
the
board
of
commissioners
approved
the
selection
of
a
qualified
bidder.
F
H
F
A
D
Shall
report
the
board
or
a
recommendation
so
report
to
the
board
of
commissioners.
F
C
Who's
the
the
appointment
of
the
members.
It
doesn't
state
that
in
here.
D
F
D
Okay,
one
thing
is:
I
know
that
we
have
like
the
amount
set
as
it
currently
exists.
Should
we
round
that
out
to
1.5
million
or.
D
E
I'm
sure
we
do
I
I
don't
know
if
anyone
from
fiscal
services
is
still
dialed
in,
but
I
know
if
we
we
want
to
get
into
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
the
the
funding
for
this
and
where
the
additional
could
come
from
they'd
be
better
to
answer
that
you
can
always
change
it.
We.
D
B
C
While
you're
figuring
out
do
we
want
to
add
charlie's
amendment
to
this
that
sounds
like
or
I
should
take
commission
cabal.
I
apologize.
D
C
D
B
D
C
C
Right
yep,
the
change
is
in
september
21
or
17th.
We
said
september
17th
and
then
took
the,
whereas
was
taken
out
the
duplicate
and
the
rounded
up
to
1.5
mil
and
then
changed
the
amount
to
500
000
from
the
gl
account
three,
eight
three,
four,
seven,
two
all
right:
every
everybody
else
good
and
everything
all
right.
So
can
we
call
the
roll?
Please.
B
C
C
C
B
C
I
D
Other
business:
this
is
a
very
quick
one.
This
is
an
item
and
we
took
up
the
the
sponsorship
for
arts
meets
and
needs
chris.
If
you're
I
mean,
if
you're
still
around
here,
so
I
mean
I
mean
I
like
I'll.
Let
chris
I
mean
correct
me,
mr
ward.
Mr
I
just
want
to
if
I
say
something
wrong.
Let
me
know
I'm
in
conversations
with
the
city
of
royal
oak
and
how
they're
proceeding
this
is
the
amendment,
but
I'm
going
to
make
a
motion
to
reconsider.
D
The
art
speech
needs
sponsorship
resolution
from
last
meeting
to
add
an
amendment
that
basically
shifts
from
contract
to
grant
yeah
and
then
the
appropriate
language
to
be
consistent
with
what
we're
going
to
be
moving
forward.
So
I'll
make
the
motion
to
reconsider
that
resolution.
From
the
last
meeting
all.
C
Right,
it's
been
moved
by
commissioner
wood,
but
woodward's
supported
by
commissioner
wiper,
all
which
we
have
to
we
have
you
can
just
all
in
favor.
Okay,
do
we
do
a
roll
call
on
that
to
reconsider
the
art
speech
needs
to
change
the
language
as
we'll
be
handed
out
to
the
commissioners
here
if
it
passes,
okay,.
C
C
C
Act,
local
official
fiscal
recovery,
funds
for
the
sponsorship
of
2021
arts
beats
and
eats
festival
and
partnership
with
the
city
of
royal
oak
and
you'll
see
the
fourth
further
resolved.
You'll
see
the
changes
they
added
the
grant
that
in
there
also,
the
matching
sponsorship
of
the
arts
is
new
and
then
retracted.
The
sponsorship
matching
grants.
C
First,
moved
by
commissioner
woodward,
supported
by
commissioner
wiper,
any
discussion.
C
B
Okay
and
the
amendment
is
presented-
spizz,
yes,
woodward.
D
D
C
C
Carries,
thank
you
any
other
business
and
then
the
mr
is
amended.
Oh
I'm
sorry
yeah
I
apologize
now
we
have
to
do
the
miscellaneous
resolution
for
the
economic
development
board
of
commissioners.
Appropriation
of
american
rescue
plan,
art
local
fiscal
year
recovery
funds
for
the
sponsorship
of
2021
arts
beats
and
eats
festival
in
partnership
with
the
city
royal
oak.