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A
A
By
commissioner
spitz
seconded
by
commissioner,
charles
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye,
aye,
aye
allen,
all
the
polls
say
aye
eyes.
Have
it
all
right
now
we
have
public
comment.
Anybody
from
the
public
public
would
like
to
speak
to
the
committee
going
once
going
twice
three
times
all
right,
we'll
call
we'll
close
public
comment.
Now
we
come
to
communications.
We
have
through
three
communications.
The
first
one
is
waterford
township
resolution
regarding
highland
park,
water
and
sewer
department.
The
second
one
is
wayne
county
commission
resolution
number
2022-243.
A
A
A
Right
so
we
got
commissioner,
charles
and
commissioner
spitz.
B
B
To
proceed,
this
is
just
a
communication
about
something
coming
correctly.
D
Actually,
overall
2.4,
but
these
groups
was
for
the
1.9
for
all
the
cvts
there's
21
cvts
and
there's
more
than
21
submitted.
But
for
that
communication,
there's
21
that
were
approved
by
that
committee,
which
is
what
this
communication
is
for,
spending
that
one
point
yep.
A
E
Just
follow
up
in
communications
got
all
the
cvts
that
are
listed
with
all
the
grant
monies
that
that
was
something
this
committee
did
for
using
the
federal
money
for
planning
assistance,
critical
infrastructure.
So
this
is
a
really
really
good
item,
so.
A
A
We
also
have
road
improvement:
fiscal
year,
2022
appropriation
with
the
city
of
rochester,
hills
for
tri-party
road
improvement
program;
project
number
56711,
the
next
one.
We
have
road
improvement
fiscal
year,
2022
appropriation
with
charter
township
of
brandon
for
tri-party
road
improvement
program;
project
number
56782,
the
next
one.
A
We
have
road
improvement
fiscal
year,
2022
appropriation
with
the
charter,
township
of
white
lake
for
tri-party
road
improvement
program;
project
number;
five,
six,
eight
one
two
and
the
last
one
we
have
is
road
improvement:
fiscal
year,
2022
appropriation
for
charter
township
of
milford
for
tri-party
road
improvement
program,
project
number,
five,
six,
eight
two
one-
and
he
just
moved
by
commissioner
charles
secondary
christopher
wiper.
Any
discussion,
commission
and.
E
Just
background
I
mean
so
everybody
remembers
that
this
our
board
has
put
that
dry
party
in
and
can
the
two
million
bucks
every
year
in
the
budget
and
all
the
communities
really
appreciate
it.
So
here
we've
got
five
communities.
Taking
us
up
on
tri
party
that
this
board
other
counties
don't
have
triparty,
I
mean
everybody
thinks
tri
party
is
in
every
county.
This.
We
are
the
only
county
in
the
state
that
has
tri
party,
where
the
board
is
contributing
to
the
community,
so
people
just
assume
every
county.
Does
it
yes
correct
this
county?
Is
it.
A
B
So
I
appreciate
that
commissioner
wiper,
it's
very
illuminating
for
us
newer
commissioners.
When
do
we
revisit
recalibrate,
take
a
look
at
again.
Is
it
sometime
annually?
Does
anyone.
B
Well,
that'll
be
great
because
I
talked
with
commissioner
covell
over
the
last
couple
of
days
about
some
concerns
that
some
folks
raised
in
royal
oak
township
about
just
the
burden
of
that
match,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
now
that
I'm
a
little
bit
more
acclimated
to
the
system.
I
can
make
sure
to
ask
those
questions
when
we
get
yeah.
F
G
I'll
just
add
to
that
we
also
have
the
lrip
program,
which
is
similar
but
does
not
include
the
road
commission
correct
and
that's
another
two
million
dollars.
So
that's
actually,
four
million
dollars
that
gets
aside
gets
set
aside
every
year
by
us
for
local
roads
and
the
local
community
is
the
entity
that
determines
which
road
gets
fixed
correct.
So
it's
not
me
the
commissioner.
It's
my
community
decides
they
want
road
xyz.
So
I
think
it's
a
great
program,
our
tax
dollars
at
work
thanks.
I.
D
A
Zero
nays
motion
carries
all
right
so
now
we'll
go
to
our
regular
agenda.
The
first
one
board
of
commissioners
presentation,
sheriff's
training,
center,
auxiliary
building
and
dispatch
center
presentation
need
a
motion
move
by
mr
spence
second
by
commissioner
charles
good
morning.
Welcome
all.
H
I
apprecia
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
with
you,
mr
chair
members.
This
is
probably
without
question.
The
number
one
priority
that
we
have
at
the
sheriff's
office
in
terms
of
substantial
need
in
terms
of
generational
change,
for
not
just
the
sheriff's
office,
but
for
all
of
public
safety
in
oakland
county
you'll,
get
down
into
the
weeds
a
bit
with
our
presentation
that
captain
hill
is
going
to
give.
But
it's
really
on
so
many
levels,
something
that
I
think
will
help.
Every
police
and
fire
department
in
this
county
do
better
train
better,
be
better
prepared.
H
You
know,
as
we've
seen
tragedies
whether
they've
been
active.
Shooters
like
we've
tragically
experienced
right
here
in
our
own
county
or
other
kinds
of
events,
the
better
training
you
have,
the
better
you're
going
to
have
a
good
chance
for
an
outcome,
not
perfect
outcomes,
because
it's
a
dangerous
unpredictable
world,
but-
and
we
also
see
that
with
terrible
police
outcomes
like
minneapolis
or
elsewhere.
H
H
That's
a
training
issue
right
and
so
the
more
you
can
immerse
people
in
real
world
scenario
training
and
make
sure
that
they
feel
that
stress
and
if
they're,
going
to
make
a
mistake,
make
it
the
mistake
in
training
the
more
likely
when
they
get
in
into
the
real
world
situation.
They
may
have
a
higher
probability
of
executing
well,
so
obviously
the
the
biggest
concern
is
going
to
be
price
point.
H
J
G
J
H
So
I'm
the
head
of
government
affairs
for
major
county
sheriff's
america
and
the
white
house,
in
conversations
with
me
on
multiple
occasions,
have
encouraged
communities
to
use
federal
monies
that
came
to
the
county.
I
know
that
macomb
county
directed
a
hundred
million
dollars
to
the
macomb
county
sheriff's
office.
H
H
So
this
facility
would
allow
every
police
agency
and
and
we're
joined
and
I'll.
I
don't,
I
think
at
least
one
of
when
we're
going
to
speak,
but
if
you
could
just
stand
up
and
just
let
the
folks
know
who
you
are.
H
So
we
brought
some
of
our
our
partners,
but
you
know
our
vision
on.
This
is
pretty
much
like
oaktech
that
we
are
all
one
team
we
train
together.
We
work
together
if
it's
my
problem,
it's
their
problem.
If
it's
their
problem,
it's
my
problem.
If
it's
my
equipment,
it's
their
equipment
and
that's
the
way
we'll
view
this
training
center,
that
every
agency
in
this
county
will
get
time
in
the
center
and
we'll
work
together
to
create
cooperative
training.
H
That,
I
think,
is
critical
for
better
outcomes.
That
is,
you
know
again
my
opinion,
long
overdue
for
a
county
of
this
stature.
So
that's
kind
of
the
broad
thing
of
it.
The
the
components
would
include
something
for
the
executive's
office,
an
emergency
operations
center
that
would
handle
anything
from
you
know,
covet
to
tornadoes.
You
know
it
gets
stood
up
in
any
emergency
and
that's
under
the
executive's
office,
and
then
that
would
be
co-located
with
an
emergency
dispatch
and
operation
center
that
we
operate.
H
Both
of
those
facilities
now
are
in
a
building
that
was
built
in
the
40s
that
was
not
purposely
built.
It
doesn't
meet
federal
guidelines
both
for
safety,
security
or
weather
sustainability,
so
we
don't
meet
any
guidelines
for
those
facilities
to
operate
in
an
emergency,
so
this
would
co-lake
co-locate
both
those
facilities
to
deal
with
any
emergency.
H
Our
operations
center
is
also
the
fallback
for
any
other
911
operations
within
the
county,
so
that,
if
theirs
goes
down,
it
rolls
into
ours,
and
we
can
pick
that
up
seamlessly.
So
that's
an
important
part
of
the
process
to
backstop
each
other
redundancy
and
again
facilities,
it's
kind
of
embarrassing.
In
a
county
like
this,
we
have
a
video
of
a
a
rat,
the
size
of
this
cute
little
puppy
crawling
across
some
of
the
artifacts
inside
of
our
central
dispatch
on
a
work
day
and
watching
our
professionals
jump
around.
H
You
know
right
now
we
use
an
abandoned
middle
school
that
has
no
backup.
Power
only
has
part
of
the
facility.
That's
air
conditioned
after
the
tragedy
in
oxford,
we
called
every
public
safety
individual
that
was
involved
in
that
and
offered
them
an
emotional
after-action
debrief
with
trained
professionals,
and
in
the
middle
of
that,
when
I
was
there
at
it,
the
power
went
out
and
they
were
sitting
in
a
completely
dark
without
air
conditioning
facility
talking
about
the
worst
day
of
their
life,
and
I
think
that
doesn't
make
sense
for
a
county
like
oakland
either.
A
Yeah
I
mean
you
want
to
go
through
the
presentation,
then
we
should
do
questions
sure.
C
C
Captain
todd
with
sheriff's
office,
I
apologize
for
the
delay
start.
I
think
that
was
partially
my
fault.
I
came
nice
and
prepared
for
a
lot
of
things
linking
through
go
to
my
go
to
meeting.
Wasn't
one
of
them,
so
there's
a
couple
of
videos
that
we
have
towards
the
end
if
they
work
great
I'll
talk
our
way
through,
because
we
had
to
cut
the
audio.
So
we
don't
push
a
lot
of
feedback.
Everyone
there's
also
a
small
delay
and
we're
going
to
figure
out
that
delay.
C
So
I'll
start
talking
as
we
start
going.
What's
that
I
need
to
talk
nice
and
slow
or
start
thinking
ahead
right,
so
you
don't
have
to
break
your
car
right
so
plus
that
hasn't
seen
my
dog,
so
I
can
just
always
refer
to
that
yeah
right,
so
the
sheriff's
office
is
basically
20th
in
the
nation
in
size.
Thank
you
out
of
over
three
thousand
and
there's
kind
of
a
need.
There's
a
need
for
a
number
of
different
things.
C
As
we
can
see,
my
powerpoint
is
not
keeping
up
at
all.
That's
okay,
there's
a
need
for
for
the
training
center,
there's
a
need
for
dispatch
and
then
there's
a
third
need
and
that
that
need
is
for
a
strategic
building
or
strategic
storage
center
or
an
auxiliary
building
the
packet
that
that
everyone
has,
and
we
can
email
out
to
those
that
are
online
as
well
goes
through
kind
of
a
very
detailed
details
and,
on
the
very
very
end
there
are
some
examples.
C
So
this
isn't
something
that
we're
initially
trying
to
figure
out
this.
This
is
something
that
we're
replicating
that
that
other
agencies,
that
are
our
size,
that
are
half
our
size,
are
trying
to
do
or
are
doing.
Oh,
this
is
not
working
at
all.
C
Do
a
quick
little
refresh
refresh
unshare
share,
so
nothing
else.
Look
at
that.
C
So
that's
that's
really
our
need.
If
that
was
a
12-minute
delay,
then
we're
really
in
some
trouble
but,
as
the
sheriff
said,
there's
a
number
of
different
things.
Absolutely
does
yours.
Oh
I'm
good
with
what
the
presentation
is
yeah.
I
want
everybody
to
see
it.
Oh
there
we
go
all
right,
so
we're
now
we're
cooking.
C
So
there's
a
as
the
sheriff
said:
there's
we
are
currently
in
our
brandon
facility
if
you
will
but
we're
paying
an
annual
rent
of
a
hundred
and
forty
four
thousand
dollars
annually,
just
just
to
run
and
we're
not
getting
really
complete
full
use.
Nor
do
we
have
battery
or
generator
backup
with
ac,
just
in
certain
rooms.
C
We
really
have
to
limit
our
training
in
the
summer
time,
specifically
because
we're
doing
officer
wellness-
and
I
can't
be
putting
people
in
an
eight
hour
class
and
again
it's
not
just
the
the
heat
rises
to
74
or
78,
we're
talking
about
80
and
90
degree
weather
inside
the
classrooms.
So
that's
very
difficult
to
conduct
classroom
to
do
exercises
and
do
you
know
some
type
of
maneuvers
and
stuff
that
we
can
do
with
that.
C
C
C
I
think
that
owning
a
building
that
we
could
put
everything
in
would
be
a
little
bit
more
fiscally
responsible
and
when
I
say
everything
in
I'm
talking
about
not
just
swat
equipment,
not
just
auto
theft,
not
just
motorcycles
and
stuff
from
the
sheriff's
office,
we're
also
talking
about
homeland
security,
oakland,
county
hazmat
team.
I
believe
homeland
security
is
currently
running,
off-site
storage
facilities
for
their
additional
ppe.
So
all
that
can
be
stored
in
this
area
and
if
it's
co-located
with
the
the
training
center,
we
can
include
that
in
that
space
area.
C
One
thing
that
and
I'll
start
fast
forwarding
it
even
a
little
bit
faster.
C
One
thing
that
oxford
did
show
us
was
that
training
paid
off
the
level
of
response,
not
just
from
the
sheriff's
office
but
from
the
other
agencies,
both
in
and
outside
the
county,
was
was
quite
frankly,
seamless
to
have
groups
of
officers
together
that
didn't
ever
even
train
together
or
didn't
even
know
each
other
and
to
form
teams
of
four
six,
eight
and
start
going
and
doing
secondary
and
third
searches
of
the
building,
and
even
our
secondary
search
yielded
about
200
kids
that
were
basically
bunkered
in.
C
So
if
you
think
about
the
size
of
our
agency
with
just
over
1250
gun
toters
about
1500
in
size
and
staff,
we
don't
have
an
area
that
we
can
even
put
a
quarter
of
our
staff
at
one
particular
time.
So
I
think
it's
significant
that
we
start
looking
at
being
able
to
not
only
train
and
have
types
of
meetings
or
have
types
of
ceremonies
or
have
different
events
or
conferences.
That
would
include
not
only
a
good
majority
or
the
size
of
our
staff,
but
also
for
outside
staff.
C
As
the
sheriff
said,
the
facility
would
be
utilized
by
by
everyone
within
the
county
for
free.
I,
I
think
that's
important
that
this
isn't
just
a
sheriff's
office
want.
I
think
this
is
a
collective
want
by
everybody.
One
of
the
number
one
most
important
things-
and
it
looks
like
my
celebrity-
is
starting
to
keep
up
a
little
bit
number.
C
The
number
one
thing
that
we
actually
don't
have
is
a
track,
and
I
say
a
track
and
everybody
gets
kind
of
freaked
out
and
they're
like
oh
my
gosh,
you
don't
need
a
nascar
track.
You're
right,
we
don't
do
highway
patrol
as
our
primary
function,
so
we
don't
need
a
nascar
track
with
on-ramps
and
off-ramps.
C
What
we
do
need
is,
we
need
a
roundabout
we
need
intersections,
because
that's
really
what
the
issue
is
is
having
to
not
only
train
initially
trained,
but
ongoing
annual
training
or
bi-annual
training,
along
with
remedial
training
and
a
lot
of
times.
Remedial
training
is
overlooked,
meaning
you
find
an
error
or
find
a
officer
who
does
something
that
may
be
a
violation
of
policy.
Maybe
isn't
the
safest
way
to
do
something
or
maybe
isn't
the
way
that
we
train
them?
C
There's
discipline
that
that
follows
one
track
and
then
there's
training
that
follows
another.
As
gordon
graham
said,
predictable
is
preventable,
so
if
we
can
start
predicting
where
our
problems
are,
we
can
start
preventing
them
and
I
think
that
the
remedial
training
portion
is
significant.
So,
honestly,
the
number
one
thing
that
we
need.
Besides
all
of
this
is
really
the
the
initial
step
forward
into
securing
a
sized
area
that
would
allow
us
to
have
a
track
attracting
to
do
multiple
things.
C
C
If
you
start
thinking
about
a
little
bit
more
on
the
drive
track
and
officers
engaged
in
a
crash
about
every
18
000
miles
and
if
the
officer
lives
about
45
minutes
to
an
hour
away
from
their
work
for
a
normal
control
officer,
that's
patrolling
that
means
they're
driving,
probably
about
18
000
miles
a
year
between
personal
and
driving
work.
So
we're
talking
about
crashes.
C
C
The
next
couple
of
slides
I
went
through,
I
highlighted
a
few
to
include
the
michigan
state
police.
They
have
a
drive
track
facility
again.
Theirs
is
a
little
bit
more
keyed
towards
entrance
ramps
and
and
off-ramps,
and
they
have
different
types
of
circular
patterns.
If
you
will
they're
very
very
specific
what
a
lot
of
times
people
don't
realize
is
down
to
the
minute
detail.
C
Training
is
usually
done
for
a
specific
reason,
meaning
the
size
of
the
room
that
we
use
for
a
particular
location.
The
amount
of,
if
we're
talking
about
simulations
or
utm,
the
amount
of
ammunition
that
we
put
in
their
their
pistol
is
for
a
specific
purpose.
So
every
little
tiny
planning
is
down
to
the
minute
detail
and
has
a
reason
behind
it.
We
put
people
in
very
specific
areas
or
for
the
ammunition.
Maybe
it's
not
just
costs
we're
not
just
trying
to
save
things.
C
What
we're
trying
to
work
on
is
the
ability
or
be
proficient
in
the
first
couple
of
rounds
that
they
fire
the
other
thing
and
round
accountability
right
from
the
get-go.
The
other
thing
we're
trying
to
work
on
is
magazine,
exchanges
being
able
to
put
that
weapon
back
in
a
battery.
So
when
we
talk
about
reality-based
training,
the
best
reality-based
training
is
one
that
you
can
try
and
replicate
at
its
finest.
C
The
last
portion
that
I
have
a
couple
videos
on
and
we
can
again
send
the
link
it's
a
little
bit
longer.
I
think
the
the
complete
video
is
about
20
minutes.
It's
at
a
washington
county
sheriff's
office
in
hillsboro,
which
is
portland
oregon.
C
C
C
Start
catching
up
here
in
a
minute,
but
so
we'll
start
going
through.
So
there's
a
couple.
Other
slides,
like
I
said,
and
there's
a
couple
other
attachments
to
include
fresno,
fresno,
police
training
center,
the
glendale
training
center,
but,
like
I
said,
there's
something
I
think
that's
very
beneficial
at
each
of
the
different
training
centers
washington
county.
I
think
they
mastered
the
the
scenario
village.
If
you
will
not
only
they
have,
I
think
12
buildings
inside
they
also
have
a
entire
mock-up
of
their
different
facility
jail
facility.
C
So
we
won't.
We
won't
even
attempt
to
play
those
videos,
since
this
is
so
slow,
so
yeah
and
one
thing
to
note
the
the
sheriff
was
like
well.
How
big
is
is
that
area
and
it's
about
650
officers
that
range?
What
did
I
say
like
three,
a
little
bit
more
heavy?
I
think,
on
corrections
and
patrol
it's
a
little
over
300
and
something
in
in
corrections.
A
couple
hundred
in
patrol
a
little
over.
C
Sir,
so
and
again
I
think,
on
their
website
it
says
20
million
dollars.
When
I
talked
to
the
the
the
officer
that
was
in
charge
of
the
facility,
he
said
it
was
more
like
29
million
dollars
and
again
we
start
looking
at
big
numbers,
and
I
know
these
big
numbers
scare
and
they
scare
me
I'm
not
going
to
be
honest.
C
But
when
I
start
looking
at
the
liability
of
the
agency
and
the
liability
of
the
county,
you
can
look
around
to
one
catastrophic
mistake
by
an
officer
and
and
if
the
you
know,
agency
has
found
to
be
liable
because
they
didn't
train
them
properly
or
they
didn't
remedial
train
them
properly.
The
the
the
the
last
I
think,
detroit
lawsuit,
that
launched
about
two
months
ago
for
a
vehicle-related
pursuit.
It
starts
at
50
million
and
that's
for
one
person
that
passed
and
perished
and.
H
C
So
again,
if
you
look
at
the
back
of
that
packet,
I
think
the
last
the
last
set
of
photos
is
the
the
washington
county.
That's
probably
the
most
impressed
I've
been
there
regarding
their
their
scenario-based
village
area.
The
other
thing
is
that
they
have
a
indoor
firing
range.
They
can
actually
drive
their
vehicles
in
or
have
mock
vehicles
that
are
staged
in
there
and
again,
when
we're
looking
at
oxford,
we
train
oak
tech
trains
to
close
that
distance,
and
I
think
it's
really
important.
C
We
had
a
number
of
our
different
response
drive
directly
to
the
building
and
not
hit
the
building,
oh
to
say,
that's
a
good
thing,
but
directly
to
the
particular
doors
that
they
knew
that
the
the
suspect
was
at
and
that
the
most
amount
of
casualties
were
at
that.
That
doesn't
just
happen
magically
that
happens
from
training.
C
The
other
thing
is
that,
from
all
the
after
action
reports,
when
we
started
looking
at
different,
active
shooter
responses,
the
amount
of
officers
that
would
discard
a
car
in
the
middle
of
a
roadway
and
then
cause
havoc
and
dismay
for
the
next
responding
officer
was
was
also
a
problem
in
past
circumstances.
In
oxford,
we
didn't
have
that
problem.
There
was
easy
ends.
C
There
was
easy
outs,
a
lot
of
cars
looked
to,
the
sides
were
drove
up
on
on
the
grass
and
again
that
goes
back
to
training,
and
it
wasn't
that
we
just
told
people
to
do
that.
We
actually
practiced
that
when
we're
out
of
brown
road,
so
their
response
to
the
positioning
of
the
car,
how
they
got
out
of
the
car
and
the
way
that
they
linked
up
inside
is
absolutely
critical.
C
One
of
the
last
things
I
want
to
discuss
that,
I
think
I
breezed
over,
was
that
the
importance
of
having
indoor
ranges
is
significantly
important.
This
is
michigan,
so
the
we
have.
We
have
a
different
a
couple
of
different
issues
regarding
outdoor
ranges
when
we're
talking
pistol,
we're
talking
rifle
ranges.
C
There's
really
only
two
or
three
that
are
that:
allow
for
rifles
to
be
shot
and
usually
most
of
them,
don't
don't
allow
touch
subordinates,
don't
allow
them
to
shot
before
a
rifle
to
be
a
trigger
to
be
pulled
before
like
10
am
has
to
be
done
at
sunset,
so
we're
very
limited
on
on
weather,
we're
very
limited
on
the
way
that
we
can
can
do
rifle
training
and
I
think,
to
have
an
indoor
rifle
range
that
was
100
200
yards
long
is
is
absolutely
significant
and
I'm
not
just
talking
about
a
tunnel
where
you
can
shoot
one
or
two
I'm
talking
about
where
you
can
actually
bring
in
a
group
and
run
a
full
patrol
rifle.
C
I
like
to
equate
that
with
with
ice
time.
So,
if
you're
not
familiar
with
like
hockey
right
good
luck,
trying
to
find
ice
time
right,
you
call
out
to
the
ice
arena
and
you're
like
hey.
My
team
wants
to
to
train
and
they're
like
well,
we
got
2
a.m
on
saturday
morning.
Are
you
available,
and
you
usually
have
to
say?
C
Yes,
if
you
want
to
actually
skate
so
I
would
imagine
this
is
probably
going
to
be
the
same
way
if
we
build
an
indoor
rifle
range,
the
amount
of
departments
that
are
going
to
be
lining
up
and
and
getting
in
line
to
train
their
people
and
an
indoor
rifle
range
all
year
round.
It
will
be
quite
significant,
so.
H
And
to
put
an
exclamation
point
in
the
driving
portion,
we
used
to
do
pit
and
training
at
the
international
airport,
oakland
international,
on
one
of
the
side
tarmacs,
and
it
was
kind
of
tearing
up
the
asphalt
a
bit
and
they
were
being
polite,
but
we're
no
longer
training
there.
H
H
All
of
a
sudden
you've
got
about
five,
maybe
four
usable
hours
of
actual
training
for
a
full
eight
hour
training
day-
and
I
know
a
lot
of
other
agencies-
would
definitely
want
to
do
that
and
when
he
talked
remedial
somebody
has
a
fender
bender
in
the
snow.
H
They
can
take
them
right
out
to
the
track
in
a
snow-filled
environment.
Say:
let's
go
over
it
again.
Those
kinds
of
things
are
handy
for
everybody,
and
I
know
you
know.
I
won't
speak
for
everybody,
but
I
know
a
lot
of
agencies
have
asked
us
to
participate
in
training
their
people
on
pitt
and
other
kinds
of
things.
H
A
M
I
apologize
for
my
lack
of
technology,
but
it's
going
to
pay
off.
I
believe
so.
I've
got
some
prepared
remarks.
M
Well,
I
was
embarrassed
about
not
having
the
presentation,
so
thank
you
to
the
committee.
Thank
you,
chairman
miller,
for
the
invitation
to
speak
here
today,
most
importantly
for
your
interest
in
requesting
an
opportunity
to
meet
with
me
and
my
staff
for
my
staff,
and
I
apologize
to
seek
information
and
greater
insight
into
what
the
law
enforcement
profession
is
going
through
and
needs
what
we're
doing
to
improve
the
volume
for
the
law
enforcement
profession,
specifically
at
farmington
hills,
where
I
have
some
significant
say
in
it.
M
What
we,
what
we're
doing
to
continue?
That
is
where
we're
at
here
we're
asking
to
to
continue
and
build
on
what
we've
already
done.
I
have
to
acknowledge
the
sheriff
sheriff
bouchard
for
his
leadership
and
foresight
in
conceptualizing
and
implementing
the
oakland
county.
Tactical
consortium
are
oaktech.
M
Creating
that
both
in
active
assailant
response,
civil
disturbance,
emergency
management,
critical
incident
response,
investigation
and
management,
this
includes
standardizing
our
training
notification,
pre-event
planning
response
protocols,
equipment
and
incident
command
at
a
county,
wide
level
that
serves
as
an
example
of
what
law
enforcement
needs,
both
at
a
local
county
and
state
level.
But
we
cannot
rest
on
those
accomplishments
and
at
this
point
we
need
to
continue
this
training
and
level
preparedness.
At
a
county-wide
level,
the
farmington's
police
department
is
blessed
with
sufficient
resources
and
logistical
assistance
to
support
our
cutting-edge
training.
M
The
development
of
a
regional
training
center
would
provide
significant
benefits
to
all
oakland
county
agencies
and
residents,
large
or
small,
heavily
resourced,
or
not
to
substantially
improve
and
standardize
the
consistency
and
quality
of
that
public
safety.
Training
throughout
our
county,
we
know
as
law
enforcement
as
law
enforcement
officials
and
officers.
We,
regardless
of
agency
size,
the
quality
of
our
equipment,
department,
training
or
staff
size.
No
single
agency
can
handle
these
critical
incidents
by
themselves.
M
The
another
aspect
of
this
is
the
higher
high
liability
and
high
risk
incidents
that
we
respond
to
on
a
daily
basis.
These
incidents
recur
include
any
kind
of
a
fatal
force
or
possible
fatal
force.
M
Firearm
deployment,
which
is
a
tragic
example,
is
illustrated
by
the
oxford
high
school
shooting
another
more
prevalent
and
routine
incident
type
is
pursuit
driving
in
emergency
vehicle
operations,
as
discussed,
and
I
apologize
for
any
redundancies
in
what
I'm
saying
I
we
didn't
coordinate
ahead
of
time,
so
these
actions
are
daily
daily
actions
by
our
officers,
whether
they're,
responding
to
a
child,
not
breathing
a
medical
emergency,
an
armed
incident,
a
assault,
and
it
this
was
highlighted.
M
Monday
night
after
I
got
done
develop
presenting
our
budget,
I
was
traveling
on
696
and
I
saw
about
13
police
cars,
traveling
westbound,
along
696,
at
access
in
excess
of
100
miles
an
hour.
They
were
in
pursuit
of
a
major,
auto
theft.
Ring
that
started
in
macomb
county
went
all
the
way
through
oakland
county
on
696
and,
I
believe,
ended
in
milford
area.
This.
This
type
of
an
incident
is
participated
in
on
at
that
county
level
by
multiple
jurisdictions.
M
M
I
can't
over
emphasize
the
importance
of
training,
as
already
discussed,
liability,
the
professionalism
of
our
officers,
efficiency
of
our
operations,
the
safety
of
our
citizens
and
our
officers.
I
do
never
wanna,
I
never
wanna
put
our
officers
lives
at
risk,
but
that's
what
we
do
every
day
and
we
do
it
for
the
safety
of
our
citizens,
the
public,
the
personal
development
and
management
of
our
officers.
That
is
something
that
is
critical
to
us,
preparing
our
officers,
both
mentally
and
physically,
with
the
training
to
go
in
and
handle
these
major
incidents.
M
Another
thing
we
didn't
talk
about
is
recruitment.
When
we're
out
there
recruiting,
which
is
significantly
difficult
across
the
profession,
we
are
having
difficult
finding
the
the
qualified
candidates
to
do
the
job
and
not
only
to
do
the
job
but
want
to
do
the
job
when
they
see
you
know
you,
can
you
can't
over
emphasize
the
trauma
that
officers
go
through
on
a
daily
basis
and
I'm
not
talking
about
the
physical
trauma,
the
bumps,
the
bruises,
the
injuries
of
of
fighting?
Talking
about
how
many
deceased
individuals
can
you
see
in
a
lifetime?
M
How
many
deceased
infants
can
you
see
in
a
lifetime?
There's
all
these
challenges
that
we're
faced
with
and
and
the
answer
is
not
status
quo
training.
The
answer
is:
more
training,
more
advanced
training,
more
coordinated
training
on
a
county
level,
and
I
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
all
the
other
chiefs,
but
I
can
speak
for
myself
and
my
agency.
The
answer
is
more
training
in
2020,
when
a
lot
of
things
were
going
on
revolving
law
enforcement,
a
lot
of
our
citizens
asked.
Why
are
you
doing
more
physical
training,
more
subject?
Control
training?
M
We
went
from
eight
hours
in
farming
tunnels
to
24
hours,
which
is
uncommon
in
law
enforcement
we
added
jiu
jitsu
onto
a
krav
maga
training
platforms,
not
with
the
intent
of
hurting
people,
not
in
the
intent
of
doing
anything
bad
with
the
intent
of
making
our
officers
fully
trained
and
confident
in
their
abilities
to
go
out
and
do
things
where
incidents
don't
escalate
when
officers
are
scared
because
we're
human
and
we
get
into
a
one-on-one
confrontation
that
that
affects
us
all
that
affects
we
all
have
families.
We
all
have
personal
health
and
safety.
M
That
individual
may
have
a
bump
on
his
knee
or
somebody
might
have
a
bruised
elbow,
but
no
one's
getting
hurt
both
on
the
citizen
side
and
the
officer's
side,
and
so
with
that,
I
am
fully
in
support
of
this
training
center,
the
need
for
it
the
justification
for
it.
I
have
some
personal
situations
I
can.
A
A
They
wanted
to
take
their
life,
they
actually
have
to
help
them,
and
that
was
just
like
mind-blowing
demands
like
I
never
even
thought
about
that
right
because
you
see
the
movies
it's
whatever,
but
actually
that
real
life
situation
is
they
go
into
help
mode
now
right,
just
like.
If
your
grandma
fell
in
the
house,
they
got
to
help
them
right,
so
they
have
to
change
that
mindset
and
just
that,
like
he
was
saying,
training
and
just
the
mental
stuff
they
have
to
go
through
is
going
from
life-threatening
to.
A
I
have
to
assist
and
help
right,
and
that's
just
that
just
blew
my
mind.
I
was
like
wow
that
takes
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
courage,
a
lot
of
like
mental,
like
ability
to
do
that.
So
I
appreciate
what
you
guys
do
and
especially
because
you're
in
my
community
right
so-
and
I
don't
know-
I
know
chief
king
has
to
go
so
if
you
have
any
questions
for
chief
king
but
feel
free
to
ask
and
we'll
make
sure
all
the
other
chiefs
get
an
opportunity.
A
M
But
any
any
questions
please
feel
free,
not
not
only
now,
but
after
I
can.
I
can
drop
off
some
cards,
so
we
know
where
your
office
is
that's
what
I'm
afraid
of
thank.
A
You
so
much
and
if
any
other
chief
would
like
to
I'd
like
go
ahead.
H
E
Training
we
talked
about
pursuit
whatever.
This
is
not
like
the
old
days
where
a
person
just
driving
around
in
a
big
old
car
these
these
police
vehicles
are
you're
like
in
a
fighter.
Cockpit
right,
you
got
a
computer,
you
got
radios,
you
got
weapons,
you
got
threats
from
all
over.
I
mean
it's.
It's
not
like
the
old
days.
H
No
there's
so
many
things
that
they
are
trained
for.
You
know
narcan
and
you
know
opiate
overdoses,
all
the
kinds
of
things
the
aeds
for
heart
attacks.
You
know
when
I
first
started,
you
know
it
was
face
on
mouth-to-mouth
and
chest
compressions.
There
was
no
such
thing
as
aeds.
There
was
no
such
thing
as
narcan.
It
was
just
you
know,
a
very
different
world.
H
A
So
we
got
commissioner
cavallo
and
commissioner
markham
for
sheriff
bouchard.
F
Just
real
quick,
because
I
know
you
have
to
go-
I
just
want
to
make
sure
the
numbers
I've
received
or
looked
up
online
or
talked
through
with
our
budget
are
accurate
from
captain
hill
and
gaia.
Your
training
budget
currently
is
about
three
million
dollars
annually,
and
your
overall
budget's
about
is
175
right.
H
168
ish,
but
we've
cut
it
last
year.
Okay,
and
we
kind
of
we
got
we're,
potentially
cutting
it
this
year.
So
I
don't
know
where
we
are,
but.
F
C
C
Okay,
and
so
when
you're
looking
at-
and
maybe
this
is
where
you're
getting
that
when
you
look
at
agencies
like
new
york,
la
las
vegas
san
antonio
about
the
average
for
our
site's
agencies
should
have
about
26
and
a
half
26.8
instructors.
That's
full-time
instructors
that
doesn't
include
supervisors
that
seven
included
three
sergeants
so
and
those
three
sergeants
are
doing
a
lot
of
administrative
coordinating
stuff.
In
fact,
the
majority
of
of
the
actual
instruction
isn't
done
by
them.
C
C
But
what
also
comes
into
play,
then,
is
the
collaborative
effort
of
instructors
and
collaborated
effort-
and
I
was
talking
to
chief
king
about
with
even
with
just
cit-
is
that
ability
then
for
each
officer
each
agency
to
send
and
have
someone
helping
out
and
instructing
whether
they're,
constructing
oakland
county
or
farmington
hills
or
farmington
city
or
wherever
it's
at?
And
so
there's
there
might
be
a
different
way
again
that
that
costs
money
too.
But
there's.
C
G
Okay,
thank
you.
I
just
want
a
clarification
to
something
I
think
I
heard,
which
is
that
when
we
build
this
facility,
all
of
the
departments
in
the
region
will
be
using
it
for
free.
Did
you
say,
oakland
county,
I
mean
oakland
county,
but.
H
H
G
It's
equipment.
I
would
just
like
to
discuss
that
in
more
detail
going
forward.
I
didn't
understand
that
that's
the
way
it
was,
I
mean
with
other
stuff.
You
know
the
communities
cough
up
their
portion
and
I
agree
that
you
know
police
everywhere
need
to
be
trained
properly
and
and
that
we're
the
central
organization
for
the
county.
I
just
need
to.
I
want
to
understand
better
how
that
works.
H
As
as
he
mentioned,
there's
probably
a
way
where
they'll
participate
with
some
expense.
If
they
have
trainers,
they
will
come
with
their
staff
to
help
the
training,
so
we
wouldn't
necessarily
have
to
have
you
know
now
that
you
bring
a
host
of
other
agencies
to
go
from.
You
know
recommended
26
to
46.
We
wouldn't
have
to
do
that
because
they'd
be
bringing
trained
trainers
with
them
as
part
and
parcel
and
that's
obviously
a
cost
implication
to
them,
but
they
have
training
folks
that
they
have
on
their
staff
already.
C
And
there's
actually
there's
a
couple
different
models,
ma'am
and
that
have
already
been
out
there.
There's
there's
a
couple
where,
especially
when
you're
talking
about
the
agencies
within
the
county,
if
it's
a
county
funded
that
they
they
may
have
to
fund
some
resources
like
the
ammunition
and
equipment,
that's
being
used
or
maybe
they're
buying
shared
equipment.
C
C
G
M
We
already
have
a
model
and
and
place
that
works
like
that
and
that's
the
tech,
asr
and
and
and
as
an
individual
who
committed
a
lot
of
time
for
my
agency
to
command
or
to
to
conduct,
I
believe,
was
350
command
officers
throughout
this
county
in
active
in
supervisor
management
and
seeing
critical
incident
management
over
that
incident
for
everyone
in
the
county
that
was
farmington
hills
ate
that
cost
we
we,
my
agency,
paid
me
to
go
out
there
and
train
that
and
we
trained
350,
I
want
to
say
almost
375
command
officers
from
throughout
the
county
annually
and
we
did
it
for
active,
active,
assailant
response.
M
Then
we
transitioned
to
civil
disturbance,
response
and
management,
and
that
was
you
know.
Farmington
was
able
to
do
that.
They
could.
I
was
a
lieutenant
at
the
time
and
they
they
they
outsourced
me
to
that
that
group,
but
that
is
a
shared
resource
by
a
lot
of
agencies
in
in
oakland
county,
and
I
think
we
have
a
hundred
active
shooter
response
trainers
somewhere
in
here.
You
know
we
have
nine
farmington
has
two
southpaw
has
so
many
novi.
M
Has
five
west
bloomfield
has
three
that
those
those
staff
costs
and
those
training
costs
are
coming
out
of
our
budgets,
not
complaining
at
all,
because
it's
a
great
program
and-
and
you
know
in
law
enforcement,
we
do.
We
do
like
to
steal
other
people's
great
ideas
and
not
reinvent
the
wheel.
Well,
you
know,
sheriff
burchard
has
implemented
this
at
that
level
and,
and
it
is
working
and
it
is,
it
has
propelled
us
to
probably
the
top
five
prepared
counties
in
the
nation,
so.
G
I
don't
disagree
with
anything.
You
said
I
just
wanted
to
understand
it
better
and
I
don't
want
to
get
in
the
way
of
your
ceremony.
H
A
So
we'll
let
you
guys
go
what
you
gotta.
Thank
you
so
much
and
we
can
proceed
with
any
other
questions
as
well.
A
All
right
so
now,
let's
does
any
other
chief
wanna
speak
on
this
or
feel
free,
please
eddie!
You
all
can
come
up
at
the
same
time.
If
you
want
well,
I'm
wrestling
who
goes
first.
K
Like
say
good
morning
to
the
commission,
like
I
said,
I
didn't
prepare
a
statement,
but
I
I
feel
I'd
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
come
up
and
actually
say
a
couple
words.
My
name
is
steve
cooper,
I'm
the
director
of
public
safety
for
the
city
of
oak
park.
I
have
been
employed
with
the
city
of
oak
park
for
the
past
32
years,
and
I've
been
a
director
of
public
safety
for
the
past
10
years
and
we
have
the
distinct
honor
of
being
a
public
safety
agency.
K
So
we
pot
we
supply
both
provide
both
police
fire
and
medical
emergency
to
the
entire
community
of
oak
park
sheriff
richard
is
definitely
a
gold
seal
leader.
As
far
as
law
enforcement
under
sheriff
childs
has
left
as
well
as
a
lieutenant
in
the
whole
oakland
county.
Sheriff's
department
just
have
been
wonderful,
the
the
need
for
this
facility.
I
won't
continue
to
just
reiterate
it,
but
it
is
you
can't
afford
not
to
do
it.
K
I
mean
the
the
times
that
we're
policing
with
here
in
law
enforcement
training,
like
the
sheriff
under
the
sheriff
said,
was
the
absolute
number
one
liability
that
you're
looking
at.
As
far
as
law
enforcement
agencies,
we
had
the
honor
and
pleasure
of
partnering
with
the
sheriff's
department
on
for
many
years
for
many
different
things,
and
I
can't
reiterate
enough-
I
don't
know
where
we
would
be
if
it
was
not
for
oakland
county
and
the
sheriff's
department,
like
I
said
it,
it's
a
great
proposal.
K
Hopefully
I
know
budgets
are
always
tight
and
that's
always
the
the
number
one
thing
as
far
as
financing-
and
you
know,
oak
park
is
always
willing
to
do
its
share.
K
As
a
chief
king
said,
we
have
also
have
several
instructors
on
the
oaktech
team
that
actually
serve
as
instructors
so
nobody's
trying
to
get
get
a
free
meal,
we're
all
willing
to
pull
our
weight
to
whatever
degree
we
have
to
but,
like
I
said,
it's
an
awesome
opportunity,
and
in
this
day
and
age
I
don't
see
how
you
cannot
afford
to
do
it
so
again.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
If
you
have
any
specific
questions
for
me,
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
answer
them.
L
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak.
My
name
is
dennis
emmy,
I'm
the
chief
police
from
the
city
of
ferndale,
I've
been
with
the
department
for
over
25
years,
and
I've
been
the
chief
since
2000
21.,
so
we
have
a
long-standing
partnership
with
the
oakland
county,
sheriff's
department
and,
frankly
departments.
Our
size
would
not
be
able
to
put
out
the
quality
policing.
The
quality
trained
officers
that
we
have.
These
partnerships
are
critical
for
departments
and
city
communities
our
size.
L
We
are
a
firm
believer
in
regional
partnerships
and
we've
committed
resources.
Even
though
we're
only
43
sworn
officers,
we
commit
officers
to
oakland
county,
violent
crimes,
narcotics,
swat
mobile
field,
force,
active
shooter
response,
oak
tech.
We
are
all
in
this
together
and
we
we
pay
memberships
for
to
belong
to
the
swat
team.
We
pay
memberships
to
belong
to
oak
tech.
We
contribute
officers
as
instructors
we
are
with.
This
is
a
partnership
and
facilities.
L
That
is
the.
It
is
a
challenge
I
I
know
my
own
community
we're
dealing
with
in
some
cases,
100
year
old
facilities
and
it's
a
challenge
moving
forward.
The
price
tag
is
expensive.
We
are
setting
up
the
next
generation
next,
two
or
three
generations
for
success.
By
being
the
leaders,
we
are
today
recognizing
that
we
can't
kick.
L
G
I'll
just
keep
it
brief.
My
name
is
mike
moore,
I'm
the
chief
of
police
from
royal
oak.
I
just
want
to
pig
you
back
on
some
of
the
partnerships.
We
we
host
several
large-scale
events
in
oakland
county.
We
have
the
woodward
dream,
crews,
we
have
art
speeds
and
eats
that
draws.
Hundreds
of
thousands
of
people
to
my
community
and
the
partnership
with
the
sheriff's
office
is
unbelievable.
We
train
together.
G
G
The
way
we
train
together,
I
think
is,
is
I
can't
understate
the
importance
of
that
and,
just
as,
as
aside,
we
have
trained
together
in
oakland
county
for
active
shooter
response
to
sort
of
make
sure
everybody's
operating
from
the
same
sheet
of
music,
and
just
knowing
that
royal
oak
is
not
close
to
oxford.
I
had
four
of
my
staff
there
that
day,
so
everybody
responding
the
same
way
with
the
same
training
and
knowing
exactly
how
to
operate.
A
D
Question
yes,
and
I'm
not
sure
if
you'll
be
prepared
to
answer
it
or
not,
but
I
will
ask
it
away.
Yes,
I
don't
think
it's
any
surprise
or
secret
that
I've
been
fully
supportive
of
this
project
since
day.
One.
D
C
Speaking
with
matt
mcdougall
from
fmno,
I
believe
the
feasibility
study
is
slated
to
be
done
by
november.
Currently
right
now,
I
believe
it's
in
a
feasibility,
it's
in
a
sustainability
portion.
I
know
we
just
gave
a
questionnaire
to
for
for
the
eoc,
for
dispatch
for
the
strategic
auxiliary
building
and
for
the
training
center,
separate
ones,
kind
of
what
our
needs
were
and
it
from
going
back
through
some
some
previous
ideas
and
proposals.
C
It
looks
like
there
is
an
I
some
idea
and-
and
I
know
my
ideas
may
be
a
little
bit
farther
out
there.
But
again,
every
single
thing
has
a
reason,
and
I
say
that
because
usually
the
the
the
largest
of
the
the
the
biggest
laugh
I
get
is
the
you
know
asking
for
a
pool
and-
and
my
thought
is
there's
a
couple
of
reasons
right,
like
the
sheriff's
required
to
have
a
certain
amount
of
things
and
one
of
them
is
a
jail.
C
One
of
them
is
a
marine
division
which
the
pool
is
water
and
then
therefore
marine
lakes,
water
right
so
to
training
officers
how
to
do
certain
things
operating
a
dive
team
efficiently
and
again,
every
single
request
has
multiple
reasons
behind
it.
All
the
way
to
the
fact
that
it's
easy
to
have
a
helo
dunk
machine,
which
is
basically,
we
have
a
helicopter.
C
We
pay
for
to
use
specific
facilities
that
that
basically
train
the
officers
how
to
get
out
of
a
helicopter.
Once
it's
gone,
underneath
gone
in
the
water
and
and
having
a
marine
corps
background
and
being
on
a
hilo
team.
I
understand
the
necessity
for
that
and
that's
not
easy
training.
So
that's
something
we
can
do
right
now.
Our
dive
team
trains
in
the
murky
mucky
water.
Don't
get
me
wrong.
C
So
that's
where
I
think
it's
at.
I
know
that
one
of
the
there
was
a
number
of
different
considerations
and
discussions,
but
my
number
one
priority
is
to
really
find
a
suitable
location
that
has
the
ability
to
build
this
at
the
scale
that
we
need
to,
even
if
it
takes
multiple
years
to
build
because
quite
frank
and
everybody,
even
my
own
instructors,
say
well
we're
seven
to
ten
years
away
from
hazing.
C
C
The
renewal
training
program
that
we
are
trying
to
adhere
to
is
is
within
within
a
week
of
discovering
someone
has
poor
driving
skills
or
violated
policies
to
have
them
back
in
remedial
training
discipline.
Something
different
remedial
training
needs
to
happen
because,
while
they're
waiting
for
discipline
or
while
they're
waiting
for
different
things,
they
didn't
understand
what
they
did
wrong
and
how
not
to
do
that
again,
not
to
find
out
three
months
down
the
road
that
they
actually
did
it
three
more
times
or
10
more
times.
So
again,
that's
I
know
it's
a
long
answer.
C
I
I
tend
to
get
winded
so
just
yell
at
me,
but
I
believe
the
short
answers
go
back
short
answer.
Yes,
sir.
F
Yeah
I'm
kind
of
struggling
here,
because
I
don't
unders,
there's
kind
of
like
two
parts
to
this
and
also
hey
director
cooper.
So
I
didn't
see
her
though,
but
I'm
not
underst,
there's
kind
of
like
these
two
things
every
time
you're
talking
about
this,
including
today,
there's
this
we
are
the
as
was
said,
the
best
trained
right.
Yes,
the
oxford
response
was
seamless.
Yes,.
C
C
C
Exactly
and
what
I
don't
want
you
to
confuse
is
I
don't
want
you
to
confuse
the
drive
and
dedication
of
the
training
unit
and
of
the
other
agencies
that
that
desire
to
have
that
top
net
watch
notch
level.
I
would
consider
us
to
be
a
a
bronze
or
silver
standard.
F
But
then
the
so,
then
the
solution
is
again
28
to
100
million
dollars
so
that
you
can
have
not
to
commandeer
a
parking
lot
or
you
can
have
a
pool
instead
of
using
one
of
the
5
000
lakes
in
oakland.
You
know
what
I
mean.
This
feels
like
a
nice
to
have
not
a
need,
especially
we're
talking
about
the
36
000
businesses
in
oakland
county
that
are
trying
to
recover
we're
talking
about
children
trying
to
get
back
to
school
and
learn
we're
talking
about
people
trying
to
level
up
their
education.
L
I
may
yeah,
I
I
don't
think
the
sheriff's
department
and
any
of
our
agencies
agencies
should
be
penalized
for
being
resourceful.
I
don't
think
they
should
be
penalized
for
making
being
committed
professionals
and
getting
the
job
done
in
the
face
of
adversity.
I
think
that
shows
creativity.
L
I
think
that
a
centralized
facility
like
this,
obviously
it
benefits
people
in
terms
of
wasted
travel
time,
rent
being
paid.
Currently,
I
speak
for
my
own
department.
I
have
to
travel
to
macomb
county
and
pay
a
private
facility
for
facilities.
That
would
be
I
I
wouldn't
say
it's
not
free
it's
on
the
taxpayer,
but
we're
all
oakland
county
residents
and
taxpayers.
L
Do
you
want
someone
who's
at
the
bottom
of
the
barrel,
showing
up
to
your
house
when
you
have
an
emergency,
or
do
you
want
the
best
of
the
best
we're
making
a
commitment
to
train
the
best
people
recruit
the
best
people
and
give
professionals
the
best
facilities
and
treat
them
with
respect
and
give
them
the
tools
to
be
successful,
and-
and
I
understand
that
there
is
a
substantial
investment
but
like
the
captain
was
saying
three
three
fiscal
years:
four
fiscal
years,
ten
fiscal
years.
L
If
it
started
and
it's
built
in
phases,
I
think
it's
sustainable
and
I
know
that's
a
those
are
tough
decisions
and-
and
that's
why
you
sit
in
these
chairs,
we
all
gotta.
We
know
that.
There's
competing,
you
know
programs,
but
I
don't
think
that
we
should
diminish
the
importance
of
this
one.
That's
just
my
opinion.
K
If
I
could
add
on
to
what
chief
emmy
said
as
well,
you
know
there's
liability
that
comes
with
the
subpar
ad
hoc
type
training
facilities
that
you
you
make
doable.
This
is
not
something
that,
as
I
know,
commission
corville.
You
were
saying
this
is
something
that
may
be
a
want
and
not
a
need.
You
know
I
100
disagree
with
that.
I
think
is
100
of
the
necessity.
You
have
to
be
able
to
train
your
people
in
in
a
proper
facility
in
a
proper
environment.
K
You
know
yeah,
I
may
have
you
know
a
house
and
a
roof
is
pouring
down
rain
and
I
got
a
tarp
over
it.
That's
not
acceptable.
You
know
it's
not
acceptable
to
have
your
staff.
You
know
in
a
facility
with
no
air
and
you're
talking
about
temperatures
in
excess
of
85
90
degrees
or
not
have
proper
lighting.
A
lot
of
that
comes
with
with
liabilities
as
far
as
officers
being
injured,
on
a
job
that
you
that
you
don't
see
or
hear
about
that
you
know.
K
Sometimes
these
are
career-ending
injuries,
I'd
hate
to
put
a
dollar
value
on
that.
To
say
that
you
know:
well,
you
know
28
million
or
whatever
the
amount
is
is,
is
not
worth
it
to
invest
in
this
type
of
facility.
You
know
when
you
talk
about
any
community.
K
So
again,
I
don't
think
this
is
a
want
or
a
luxury
and,
as
chief
emmy
was
saying
as
well.
Just
because
you
know,
we've
overcome
some
of
these
obstacles
and
have
managed
to
you
know
still
be
a
top
tier
county
that
you
look
at
that
and
say.
Well,
then
you
know
we
can
just
you
know
brush
this
to
the
side,
because
we
have
other
other
needs
where
we
can
spend
these
other
dollars.
K
F
I
have
in
response
to
what
you
both
are
saying.
I
just
have
two
quick
things
that
so
one
I
think
is
just
a
little
ironic
if
we
all
recall
from
our
time
in
local
service,
if
any
of
us
run
city
councils
and
stuff
that
you
all
make
up
at
least
a
third
of
your
local
budgets
and
you're
talking
about
being
penalized
by
not
getting
what
you
want
or
not
getting
more.
But
you
are
by
far
the
biggest
line
item
in
your
local
communities.
F
All
right,
yeah,
sorry,
chief
feminine.
The
second
point
I
was
trying
to
make
is
that
you're
talking
about
making
things
happen
in
uncomfortable
situations,
and
I
understand
that's
a
problem,
but
what
we're
not
hearing,
because
we're
not
able
to
have
these
people
come
to
speak
before
us
are
the
kids
that
are
in
85
degree
school
rooms
or
the
social
workers
that
worked
in
those
schools
or
the
people
in
the
communities
that
are
also
needing
funds
and
support
and
government
assistance
in
all
sorts
of
ways.
F
C
Just
if
I
can
just
address
that
so
the
reason
why
there's
no
ac
in
the
brandon
schools
and
there's
only
ac
in
the
office
in
the
library
is
because
there
was
no
school
after
june
and
and
and
start
back
in
august.
So
I'm
telling
you
that
yeah.
If,
if
I
stop
training
between
june
and
august,
we're
good
to
go
like,
I
would
continue
to
use
that
and
we
do
continue.
Don't
get
me
wrong.
C
The
reason
what
I
was
specifically
saying
was
our
four
month
long
training
that
we're
doing
for
the
entire
agency
is
eight
hours
of
classroom
and
that
eight
hours
of
classroom
I
can't
have
up
in
brandon
training
facility,
not
during
those
summer
months.
That's
all
I
was
saying
and
that
it's
a
large
line
item
that
we
don't
have
and
and
quite
frankly,
I'm
not
so
sure-
that's
fiscally
responsible
for
us
to
put
into
a
building
that
we
rent
and
we
don't
own
so
there's
a
whole
other
quandary
that
we
have
behind
there.
B
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
had
to
double
check.
This
is
a
receiving
file
because
I
was
like
I'm
missing
a
lot
of
details,
but
what
I
want
to
just
say,
officers
is
first
and
foremost
happy
birthday
to
southfield
chief
baron,
today's
his
birthday
and
as
a
former
school
board
trustee.
Our
superintendent
would
often
come
to
us
with
the
need
for
something
she
presented,
and
my
philosophy
and
policy
back
then
still
rings.
B
True
today,
which
is,
I
can't
do
your
job
and
if
you
tell
me
this
is
what
you
need
for
you
to
be
successful
with
your
job
and
then
I
say
no.
When
it
comes
to
doing
the
renewing
of
contracts
and
children,
aren't
learning
and
teachers
aren't
happy,
then
whose
fault
is
it?
Is
it
that
it
wasn't
properly
funded
or
was
it?
Is
it
that
we
didn't
support
our
superintendent?
B
So
I'm
team
public
safety
for
you
know
forever,
because
you
guys
have
been
the
ones
who've
come
who've
had
to
help
me
when
my
mom
was
unresponsive
in
our
home
deceased,
and
you
know
I
think
about
what
you
said
about
the
officers,
how
many
dead
bodies
and
how
many
dead
babies.
I
mean
we
don't
really
think
about
that
as
laypeople
as
just
general
citizens,
so
I'm
pretty
much
going
to
always
lean
in
on
supporting
training.
I'm
very
pleased
to
hear
president
biden
say
that
it
was
never
about
defunding.
B
My
caucus
here
at
the
county
has
been
very,
very
supportive
of
of
sheriff
bouchard
of
law
enforcement,
making
sure
that
we
give
you
guys
the
tools
that
you
need
so
because
I
don't
see
much,
I
know
there's
more
coming.
B
I
just
want
to
make
my
comments
clear
that
keeping
us
out
of
the
news
keeping
us
out
of
court
keeping
us
out
of
orange
jumpsuits
are
all
incredibly
important
to
me
and
I
have
been
able
to
say
confidently,
even
after
the
loyola
situation
and
this
terrible
tragedy
in
buffalo
this
past
weekend
and
tragedies
at
churches
all
of
these
soft
spots
that
people
are
targeting
there's
no
way,
I
can
say
no
right
now
to
you
guys
being
properly
trained.
I
don't
care
if
it's
marine
aviation
air
water,
you
know
all
those
things
are
so
critical.
B
So
as
long
as
you
keep
keeping
us
out
of
the
news
and
keeping
us
a
little
out
of
the
legal
spaces,
I
will
be
happy
to
support
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
honor
our
green
spaces
and
if
there's
facilities
that
are
available
to
us
using
something
to
that
effect.
But
I'm
encouraged
and
I'm
I'm
happy
to
keep
the
conversation
going.
I
appreciate
what
you
brought
to
the
table,
mr
cavell,
because
we
can't
just
be
yes
people,
it's
important
to
have
that
push
back
a
little
bit.
So
that's
that's
just
my
comments.
Oh.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
just
want
to
make
a
couple
comments
on
what
commissioner
kavel
said.
I
I
believe
you
guys
and
and
all
the
law
enforcement
agencies
around
the
county
have
been
doing
a
bang-up
job
with
a
workaround
with
the
tools
you
have
at
hand,
and
it
only
takes
one
thing
to
mess
up
before
that
all
falls
apart,
and
if
morale
breaks
or
something
breaks
and
because
you're
doing
a
workaround,
I
see
it
at
my
day
job
on
things.
D
You
know,
we've
been
doing
a
great
job
on
this,
but
you
only
do
that
for
five
six
years
and
all
of
a
sudden,
everybody
starts
to
deviate
in
another
direction
because
they're
frustrated
pissed
off,
because
they
don't
have
the
tools
that
they
know
they
need
to
do
the
job
that
they
have
been
doing
and
they've
been
working
around
it
for
so
long.
It's
like
you
need
the
tool
to
do
what
you
need
to
do,
but
the
big
question
charlie
to
get
your
point,
is
the
scale
like
I
asked
about.
What
is
it
I
mean.
D
The
range
you
gave
was
what
28
million
to
100
million
that's
a
huge
skill.
We
we
really
can't
have
any
real
good
discussion
until
we
understand
what
that
feasibility
number
is.
You
know,
maybe
we
we
start
off
and
phase
it
in
in
a
couple
years,
or
maybe
we
we
do
a
different
direction
and
charlie
your
point,
yeah.
There
are
many
different
projects
or
topics
in
this
county
that
we
need
to
tackle
and
we
continue
to
tackle
them
to
me.
Public
safety
is
one
of
them,
if
not
the
top
one.
D
In
that
you
know,
I
have
many
projects
that
I
are
near
and
dear
to
my
heart,
which
all
of
you
know
based
on
what
happened
up
in
oxford
right.
It's
and
public
safety
is
one
of
those
for
me
and
I
will
do
what
I
can
to
get
you
guys.
The
tools
you
need
to
do
the
best
job.
You
can
we'll
be
perfect
and
that's
where
we
have
to
make
some
some
tough
decisions
on
what
we
need
to
do
today.
D
Once
you
stop
that
workaround,
you
gain
so
many
other
things
that
you
cannot
put
on
paper.
So
many
other
efficiencies
that
you
gain.
You
know
your
resources
are
a
lot
more
effective
right.
Your
morale
goes
up
not
down
when
you,
when
you
give
some
things
like
this
even
and
you
don't
have
to
go
the
full
scale
like
you
said
you
phase
it
in.
Even
if
they
see
that
plan
they
see
that
structure.
They
see
that
you're
looking
out
for
them.
They
all.
I
mean
I
hate
to
say
this,
but
I'm
gonna
say
it
anyway.
D
Sometimes
you
build
it,
they
will
come
type
of
mentality.
You
know
they
say:
okay,
oakland
county
is,
is
putting
these
things
in
place.
To
continue
to
be
the
leader
in
the
community,
continue
to
be
a
leader
in
the
state
of
michigan
to
continue
to
be
a
leader
in
this
country
so
that
we
can
continue
to
get
those
officers.
You
know
that
want
to
come
in
and
work
for
the
county.
D
E
Just
fall,
but
you
talked
about
the
liability.
You
talked
about
recruitment
with
these
tragic
mistakes,
from
lack
of
training.
Just
would
lose
respect
for
the
for
police
and
it's
not
going
to
be
sustainable
to
have
good
public
servants.
If
we
don't
have
the
training
and
these
mistakes
happen,
and
that
is
not
only
his
liability,
but
then
nobody
wants
to
be
a
police
officer,
and
we
we
want
respect
for
the
society.
It's
got
to
be
sustainable,
so
it
just
pays
off
in
the
long
run,
training.
A
I
just
want
to
say
I
appreciate
you
guys
coming
before.
We
take
the
take
the
receiving
file
vote
and
being
going
to
the
apprenticeship
with
my
local
and
we're
always
buying
property
around
us,
because
you
can
never
have
enough
right.
I
mean
for
training
training
like
we
have
the
biggest
sand
pit
in
michigan
right.
We
got
600
acres
out
in
howell
and
we
actually
oak
tech's
been
out
there.
We
partnered
with
moosar
after
9
11.,
and
we
I'm
sure
a
few
of
you
been
out
there.
A
So
I
appreciate
you
coming
presenting
and
taking
the
questions
because
there
are
hard
questions
right.
I
appreciate
that
taking
our
fire
right
so
we'll
just
take
the
vote
to
receive
and
fire
file
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
fire
all
the
fighters.
C
I
will
make
sure
that
it's
dropbox
and
then
I'll
also
have
a
separate
link
for
the
entire
video
in
the
the
video
is
kind
of
clipped
for
specific
things,
but
you
can
watch
the
entire
thing.
Thank.
A
You
yeah
again,
we
appreciate
you
coming
and
as
well
look
forward
to
future
presentation,
meetings
and
working
towards,
hopefully
a
resolution
then
where
we
can
all
have
an
agreement.
Thank
you
so
much
and
thank
you.
Thank
you,
gentlemen.
For
joining
me.
G
G
A
A
N
N
This
agreement
is
with
the
war
birds
of
glory
museum,
which
is
a
very
interesting
non-profit
organization
that
is
restoring
world
war
ii
aircraft
actually
they've
covered
a
very
interesting
airplane.
A
b-25
out
of
the
sand
bar
in
alaska
brought
it
back
here
to
oakland
county
to
restore
it
with
the
original
parts
and
with
the
eventual
goal
of
getting
it
flying
again,
so
they
they
have
an
interesting
model
where
they
bring
in
high
school
students
and
teach
them
mechanical
skills
and
try
to
interest
them
in
aviation
and
restoring
what
they
say
are
american
values.
N
N
In
october,
we've
been
working
with
them
and
we
negotiated
a
three-month
abatement
of
starting
july
1
to
august
to
allow
them
to
come
in
and
get
themselves
set
up,
they're
going
to
do
some
modifications
to
the
building
so
that
it
will
work
for
them,
and
I
think
we're
like,
like
I
said,
very
excited
to
have
them
come.
So
if
there's
any
questions.
N
Yeah
they've
actually
been
working
out
of
this
garage
out
in
the
howell
area
and
they've
outgrown
their
their
space,
and
so
that's
when
they
approached
us.
N
E
A
Motion
carries
next
agenda
item.
Thank
you,
mr
sorry,
about
that
next
agenda
item
border
commissioner's
resolution
opposing
the
imposition
of
highland
park's
water
and
sewer
debt
on
oakland
county
communities
moved
by
commissioner
spitz
second
by
mr
charles
good
morning.
A
O
Please
me
to
introduce
myself:
my
name
is
charles
joseph
moss.
I
am
the
president
of
the
birmingham
dachshund
club.
O
O
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
What,
mr
chairman
committee,
this
is
a
resolution.
You
should
have
copies
of
it
in
your
in
your
packet
and
essentially
it
starts
out
by
talking
about
the
situation.
I
think
we
all
are
pretty
familiar
with
it.
In
november
of
2012,
the
highland
park
water
facility
was
closed
down
by
the
state
of
michigan.
They
were
going
to
make
a
couple
of
repairs
and
take
a
few
days.
O
It
still
is
unrepaired.
It
is
still
sitting
there.
Mothballed,
highland
park
city
then
connected
to
what
was
then
the
detroit
water
and
sewer
department,
which
is
now
the
success
or
the
predecessor
of
galiwa
or
the
great
lakes
water
authority,
which
what
emerged
from
the
bankruptcy
highland
park
simply
has
just
not
paid.
Ever
since,
and
my
the
sort
of
the
the
revolt's
kind
of
been
growing,
it's
been
ten
years
out
of
first
out
of
a
calm.
Secondly,
down
western
wayne,
this
is
oakland
county.
O
The
resolution
you
look
sets
it
up
with
the
where,
as
is
in
the
be
it
further
resolved.
Essentially
it
just
is
very
it's
very
simple,
fairly
innocuous.
It
was
the
state
that
state
of
michigan
that
created
the
situation,
I
believe,
was
originally
might
six
that
would
have
put
it
in
governor
granholm.
It
continued
through
governor
snyder.
It
is
now
governor
whitmer,
it's
the
state
of
michigan's
pro.
They
started
this,
it's
up
to
them
to
fix
it,
so
we
are
requesting
that
the
state
of
michigan
and
gewa.
This
is
the
first
now.
O
Therefore,
we
all
do
not
require
oakland
county
and
the
86
other
paying
communities
to
pay
for
it
number
two
basically
asking
governor
whitmer
just
to
fix
this,
it's
the
state's
responsibility
the
state
has
made
it
happen.
Let's
let
the
state
do
it
number
three
create
a
system
that
the
debts
of
the
non-paying
customers
don't
get
charged
to
the
paying
customers
and
number
four.
We
express
our
support
to
the
oakland
county
communities,
our
cvts,
in
their
efforts
to
resolve
the
situation
then.
O
Finally,
the
fifth
is
to
please
forward
a
copy
of
this
to
to
all
people.
Let
me
point
out
what
it
does
not
say:
it
does
not
tell
the
governor
of
the
state
how
to
fix
it
or
what
to
do
it
does
not
tell
our
local
communities
how
or
what
to
do
to
resolve,
for
instance,
to
suggest
there
are
communities
that
are
putting
their
portion
into
escrow.
I
don't
believe,
that's
our
job
to
tell
them
that
simply
to
tell
them
that
we
are,
we
support
their
their
actions.
O
Now
what
you've
put
out
look
at
that
I
set
my
own
versions
around.
The
first
is
a
the
first
packet.
If
you
will
is
a
letter
from
pokemon
county
water
resources,
commissioner,
jim
nash,
to
the
governor,
essentially
saying
this
that
you
know
so.
This
resolution
would
be
essence
supporting.
Thank
you,
the
position
that
mr
nash
has
taken
and
then
beyond
this
is
the
the
three
tables
is
the
cost.
I
believe
that
the
total
at
the
end,
is
the
total
10-year
tenure
figure
for
all
the
communities
involved.
O
Now
the
communities
are
broken
down
by
drainage
districts.
You
have
clinton
oakland,
you
got
evergreen
farmington,
you
got
george
w,
commissioner
coon's
uncle
george
and
and
so
just
to
kind
of
bring
it
all
together.
The
second
one
is
a
excel
spreadsheet
that
I
put
together
that
just
combines
them
all.
O
You
have
all
the
communities
that
have
paid
first
column
is
the
clinton
oakland,
the
evergreen,
the
gw
and,
finally,
the
total,
so
you'll
be
able
to
find
out
what
our
communities
your
communities
have
been
paying
to
support
highland
park
and
the
one
thing
that
jumps
out
of
me,
which
is
the
most
an
angering
to
me,
is
if
you
will
look
down,
and
you
will
see
royal
oak
township,
which
is
a
community
that,
I
would
say,
is-
is
challenged
as
well:
they're,
paying
their
bills
and
they're
supporting
and
they're
subsidizing
highland
park.
O
That's
just
wrong
this.
These
numbers
are
not
small.
We
all
have
issues
so
I'm
going
to
I'm
requesting
the
committee
to
pass
this
resolution
on
and
it
is
relatively
innocuous.
I'll
say
it
basically
just
says
governors
governor
made
the
problem.
I
mean
the
governor:
didn't
the
state
made
the
problem,
the
current
governor,
it's
the
job
of
the
governor
in
the
state
to
step
in
and
fix
it.
Please
fix
it
and
number
two.
O
A
Well,
we'll
turn
it
over
to
the
water
resource.
That's
why
you're
sitting
there
that's.
I
Absolutely
we've
now
there's
been
some
movement.
There's
the
governor
sent
a
letter
and
gleewa
has
responded.
I'd
love
to
hear
kind
of
jay's
perspective
on
that,
because
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
talk
to
her
since
then,
but
again,
there's
some
movement,
and
I
and
I
feel
good
about
that,
but
we'll
see
where
it's
going
and
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
work
together
with
the
region
to
settle
this.
So
I'd
be
I'd,
be
really
thrilled
to
hear
more
from
jay.
J
Good
morning
I
think,
still
morning
hi,
I
am
jay
quadrosi.
I
am
oakland
county's
representative
on
the
great
lakes
water
authority
board,
currently
sit
as
the
chair
of
that
board.
Commissioner
nash
indicated
that
there
has
been
some
movement
that
is
correct.
J
J
It
has
morphed
into
multiple
pieces
of
litigation
that
are
still
pending
in
several
different
courts,
and
there
has
been
a
strong
attempt
by
gleewa
to
try
to
engage
the
state
in
resolving,
I
would
say
resolving
the
past
issues,
but
the
primary
focus
is
to
coming
to
some
sort
of
resolution
for
for
going
forward
so
there.
So
there's
no
there's
been
a
lot
of
action,
it's
it.
It
is
not
limited
to
this
particular
time
frame.
J
I
think,
as
as
jim
will
tell
you,
this
has
been
an
issue
that
has
raised
its
head
in
different
ways
over
the
period
of
the
la
of
the
entire
existence
of
gleewa,
because
this
has
been
an
issue
since
you
know
before
glee
was
formed
and
obviously
continuing,
but
the
the
efforts
to
engage
the
state
were
intensified.
The
beginning
of
this
year,
the
great
lakes
water
authority
staff,
executive
staff
did
have
a
meeting
with
representatives
from
from
the
governor's
office
that
resulted
in
a
communication
we
got
from
governor
whitmer.
J
I
want
to
say
last
week,
thursday
or
friday
very
end
of
the
week.
Basically
the
the
state
would
like
to
to
try
to
not
have
to
be
involved
in
resolving
this.
If
I,
if
I'm,
if
I'm
being
blunt
and
I'm
certain,
there
are
lots
of
reasons,
you
all
are
politicians
that
you
probably
understand
better
than
I
do.
But
we
took
that
letter.
J
There
is
going
to
be
a
presentation
of
this
issue
at
the
board.
There
is
glee
will
responded,
because
the
governor's
request
was
basically
try
to
do
something
to
make
this
so
that
your
constituent
communities,
your
customers,
do
not
have
to
bear
this
expense.
That
is
something
that
we
have
done
in
the
past.
J
As
long
as
we
possibly
could
you
all,
I'm
sure
the
committee
that
you're
on
understand
the
the
world
of
finance
and
the
fact
that
when
you
have
a
bad
debt
situation,
there
are
rules
in
your
audit
that
mean
that
that
that
has
to
be
dealt
with.
So
we
we,
we
tried
to
to
do
as
little
as
we
possibly
could,
and
the
governor
has
asked
us
to
continue
that.
J
So
we
are
going
to
try
to
re-look
at
some
of
the
cost
increases
that
would
be
in
the
fiscal
23
time
frame,
so
they
haven't,
it
hasn't
happened
yet
or
it
would
have
just
happened
in
beginning
in
I
think
june,
so
we
are
going
to
as
a
board
re-look
at
that
issue.
We
are
cognizant
of
the
fact
that
this
is
caused
quite
a
bit
of
concern
at
the
communities.
J
You
should
know
that
in
connection
with
rates
this
this
highland
park,
bad.
That
is
an
issue
that
has
been
included
in
rates
for
for
years
in
the
past,
in
a
very,
very
transparent
way.
It
is
it
just
kind
of
caught
on
fire.
I
will
say
this
go
round
of
rates,
which
is
why
we
saw
a
lot
more
action,
like
the
resolution
that
you
are
looking
at
the
one
that
western
wayne
did
and
the
publicity
that
you
are
seeing
from
from
macomb
county.
J
That
is
not
to
say
that,
just
because
it
was
done
in
the
past
means
that
it
is
something
that
we
are
happy
about,
but
I
do
want
you
to
know
that
this
is
something
that
has
been
included
in
rates
for
a
much
longer
period
of
time
than
just
this
particular
rate
setting
season.
That
would
begin
for
the
2023,
so
we
are
going
to
at
the
governor's
request,
go
back
and
look
and
see
if
we
can
allocate
additional
resources
to
at
least
I
will
say,
total
the
issue
of
having
the
highland
park.
J
Bad
debt
be
allocable
to
other
communities,
and
then
we
are
going
to.
You
know,
continue
to
keep
our
sleeves
rolled
up
to
engage
with
the
governor's
office
to
engage
with
legislators,
because
there
are
several.
You
know
legislative
efforts
floating
around
in
lansing
to
try
to
come
to
some
sort
of
resolution.
We
are
working
hard
with
with
highland
park
and
with
representatives
from
wayne
county.
You
know
everybody
is
working
hard
at
this.
J
We
did
get
a
ruling
from
a
judge
in
one
of
the
cases
actually
sort
of
the
day
before
we
got
the
governor's
letter
that
basically
upheld
the
position
that
guliwa
and
dwsd
had
been
taking
all
the
way
along,
which
was
that
the
rates
that
were
being
charged
to
highland
park
were
appropriate
and
highland
park
has
been
ordered
to
resume
making
payments.
J
We
are
hopeful
that
that
will
also
spur
some
continued
action
towards
a
resolution,
but
at
the
at
the
bottom
of
this
I
would
say
that
we
are
all
very,
very
concerned
about
the
effect
of
this
on
the
operations
of
of
galiwa.
Obviously,
again,
you
guys
are
understand
that
we
are,
I
mean
jim.
What
is
it?
40
of
the
of
the
rates
are
attributed
to
debt
repayment.
J
That
is
a
number
that
we
constantly
are
trying
to
drive
down.
We
have
been
successful
since
the
formation
of
guliwa
and
coming
in
with
basically
junk
bond
status,
to
have
continued
to
make
inroads
into
that.
But
what
we
don't
want
to
do
is
find
ourselves
in
a
situation
where
we
suffer
a
a
downgrade
in
ratings
and
are
unable
to
continue
the
successful
progress
that
we've
made
to
sort
of
pull
out
of
where
we
were
with
dwsd
and
move
into
a
more
sustainable
system
going
forward.
J
So
long
answer
to
a
short
question,
I'm
happy
to
answer
specific
questions,
but
just
know
this
is
something
that
everybody
is
working
very,
very
hard
on.
I
Yeah
I'd
like
to
reinforce
that
a
little
bit
too.
I
know
jay's
was
during
the
the
creation
of
leeway.
She
was
played
a
part
in
that
we
worked
together
a
lot
on
that
and
bob
datto,
and
he
he
was
always
out
there
trying
to
make
everything
honest
and
so
from
that
beginning
we've
been
we've
been,
you
know
up
and
down
on
this
issue.
It
goes
away
in
from
the
conscious
and
then
it
comes
back
when
something
new
comes
up.
So
yeah
we've
been
working
on
this
for
some
time.
I
You
know
my
office
kelsey
cook,
my
attorney
and
manager
has
been
following
this
of
cary
cox.
Who
does
all
our
you
know,
systems
that
that
work
with
other
communities
we've
been
following
this
very
closely.
We
we
have
just
a
slight
work,
we'd
like
to
do
on
this
resolution
to
you
know
for
wording-wise.
I
Otherwise
we
very
strongly
support
some
kind
of
message
that
we
need
to
have
a
really
collaborative
effort
to
clean
this
up.
So
we,
you
know
if,
if
we
maybe
could
discuss
with
with
with
commissioner
moss
and
within
our
our
organization,
maybe
come
back
in
at
the
next
meeting
of
this,
and
we
can.
We
can
pass
this
that
that's
something
that
would
be
more
supportive,
as
as
jay
mentioned,
we
we
have
this
newer
court
decision
that
really
supports
our
side.
I
This
is
more
for
later
part
of
this
10-year
process.
That's
been
going
on,
and
so
I
I
think
that
we
can
we're
with
with
the
governor,
at
least
expressing
that
this
desire
and
that
they,
the
legislature,
already
forwarded
25
million
dollars
towards
gleewa.
I
think
we
have
this
chance
to
to,
hopefully
maybe
work
with
these
all
the
systems.
I
You
know,
the
one
thing
that
I
really
have
an
issue
with
is
the
idea
that
that
highland
park
would
rebuild
their
water
plant
because
really
already
they're
hooked
up
to
us,
the
great
lakes
water
authority,
which
already
has
more
than
enough
capacity
than
we
need
to
build
something
extra
beyond
that
just
seems
like
a
real
something
that
doesn't
economically
and
sustainability
makes
sense.
I
So
I
mean
we
still
need
to
work
with
the
with
the
the
region,
highland
park
itself
and
and
and
the
governor's
office
and
and
the
state.
So
I
I
I
think,
we're
hopefully
getting
this
first
step
going
and
I'd
like
to
work
further
with
you
to
develop
this
and
maybe
come
back
to
the
next
meeting
with
some
some
more.
You
know
smithing
on
that.
But
if
that's,
if
that's
all
right
I
mean
that's.
That
would
be
my
position
if
we
could
do
that.
A
Well,
I
would
hear
from
commissioner
moss
because
he
wanted
to
respond
to
commissioner
nash.
O
Thank
you,
yeah,
commissioner
nash.
I'd
be
more
than
happy
more
than
amenable
to
work
with
your
office
on
the
on
the
resolution
very
happy
to
do
that
and
get
back
get
back
in
the
next
commissioner
spades.
A
O
It's
a
committee's
pleasure:
if
it's
the
committee's
pleasure,
I'm
certainly
happy
to
do
it
no
worries,
I'm
very
happy
to
work.
F
Would
if,
commissioner
nash,
would
it
if
we
pass
this
now
and
our
board
meeting
is
on
june
7th,
where
we
can
make
the
amendments
that
you
and
commissioner
moss
agree
on?
Is
that
enough
time
for
you
all
to
figure
that
out.
A
A
A
G
A
We
have
thank
you,
commissioner.
Thank
you
very
much.
Now
we
have
our
last
agenda
item
board
of
commissioners
resolution
appropriating
additional
american
rescue
plan
fund
act,
local
fiscal
recovery
funds
and
authority
authoritizing
the
release
of
grant
funding
for
local
government
critical
infrastructure
planning,
grant
programs
been
moved
by
commissioner
spizz,
supported
by
commissioner
wiper,
and
he
just
we
have
commissioner
spitz
as
the
presenter.
Yes,.
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
as
we
approved
in
as
part
of
communication,
was
the
original
approval
that
the
board
of
commissioners
provided
for
the
critical
infrastructure
grant
that
we
put
together
a
few
months
ago
for
our
cvts
in
the
amount
of
1.9
million,
we
had
a
much
better
response
than
we
expected,
which
is
all
good,
and
if
you
all
recall,
the
intent
of
this
was
is
to
put
some
seed
money
out
there
for
the
cvt,
so
they
could
put
their
plans
together
for
infrastructure
projects.
D
So
when
the
infrastructure
money
did
come
down
for
the
federal
government,
we
were
ready
right.
So
it
was
good
to
see
that
we
believe
was
38
communities
provided
projects
or
requested
additional
funds.
So
we
were
out
of
the
1.9
we're
only
able
to
fund
21
of
those,
so
there's
17,
others
out
there
that
were
requesting
funds
and
and
they're
not
duplicates.
Originally,
there
were
some
duplicates.
We
took
all
the
duplicates
out,
so
each
community
can
only
do
it
once
so.
D
What
we
would
like
to
do
is
to
make
sure
each
community
that
submitted
a
request
for
grant
funding
could
get
that
grant
funding
to
get
their
project
going.
So
to
do
so,
we
need
an
additional
1.5
million
dollars
out
of
our
funds.
To
do
this
and
that's
what
this
resolution
is
requesting.
Approval
for.
F
So
I
just
want
to
put
this
out
to
everyone
on
the
commission
that,
whether
or
not
we
we
like
an
idea
personally
or
we
think
it
will
serve
our
district.
We
can,
I
think,
remove
ourselves
from
thinking
about
from,
like
a
scarcity
mindset
of
someone's
going
to
take
something
from
us
to
oh,
this
is
good
for
our
community,
or
this
is
good
for
oxford
is
good
for
ferndale
and
I
don't
have
to
be
a
super
fan
of
it.
F
A
A
6A
zero
nays
motion
carries
now.
We
move
on
to
our
second
public
comment.
Anybody
from
the
public
would
like
to
speak
of.
E
N
So
my
name
is
catherine
kennedy,
I'm
here
from
lake
orion
and
I
actually
spent
quite
a
bit
of
time
this
morning
trying
to
prepare
for
this
meeting,
because
the
data
wasn't
there
before.
However,
I
was
late
because
of
new
construction
southbound
telegraph
that
block
dixie
entirely
sent
me
all
the
way
down,
cass
all
the
way
to
elizabeth
lake
and
all
the
way
back
to
telegraph
to
eventually
go
north
on
telegraph
to
get
here
very
late.
So
I
apologize
for
my
lateness,
but
I
do
have
some
very
important
things.
N
I
was
concerned
about
the
consent
agenda
items
today.
Eight
a
number
five,
six,
eight
two
one,
eight
b,
number,
five,
six,
seven
one,
one,
eight
c
number:
five,
six,
seven,
eight,
two,
eight
d,
number,
five,
six,
eight
one,
two,
eight
e
number,
five,
six,
eight,
two
one!
I
have
a
series
of
questions
one.
Why
is
it
in
all
cases?
N
The
spitz
resolution
about
the
arpa
government,
critical
infrastructure
planning
grant
programs
number
21382
to
appropriate
2.4
million
approved
on
october
13
2021..
Because
of
that
reference
I
had
to
go
back
to
my
notes
to
find
that
the
local
government,
critical
infrastructure
planning
grant
was
approved
at
a
meeting
december,
8th
2021..
N
So
next
thing
is
the
sheriff's.
I
was
glad
to
see
the
tremendous
rapport
of
the
groups
in
the
sheriff's
department
here
and
was
shocked
by
mr
cavill's
comments,
saying.
Oh,
we
have
plenty
of
money.
Well,
only
if
you
don't
know
how
to
do
the
math,
I'm
sorry
there
were
adjustments
to
the
budget
for
2021,
because
we
actually
have
a
small
structural
imbalance
is
how
the
county
is
was
declaring
it
in
prior
months.
I
think
it
was
four
million
a
month
we
actually
overspent
all
the
millions
that
we
got.
N
So
maybe
we
didn't
keep
track
well
enough.
Maybe
it
was
because
25
percent
of
the
businesses
didn't
survive
covet.
Maybe
it
was
because
everybody
in
the
county
seemed
to
have
gotten
a
15
raise
in
the
very
beginning
when
they
gave
us
the
arpa
to
structure
and
strengthen
the
government.
So
the
government
got
bigger
by
399
positions
under
coulter's
budget
obliterate.
A
lot.
A
Oh
there
we
go
all
right.
Anybody
else
from
the
public
would
like
to
speak
anything
else
from
the
public,
none
from
the
public,
any
other
business,
any
other
business.
Mueller
hearing,
none
we'll
call
the
economic
development
infrastructure
committee
closed.
What
is
it
11,
34.