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Seeing
no
one,
I
will
close
public
comment
at
this
time.
Next
up.
We
have
item
number
seven
communications
item:
a
is
city
of
madison
heights
notice
of
madison
heights,
downtown
development
authority,
informational
meetings
on
september,
6th
and
november
8th
of
this
year
and
our
contingency
report.
I
need
a
motion
to
receive
and
file
commissioner
kowal
supported
by
commissioner
cavell.
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G
It
really
could
be
a
sole
source
agreement
because
we're
moving
into
a
new
phase
with
this
particular
vendor,
but
just
in
the
interest
of
you
know
describing
what
this
contract
is
wanted
to
bring
this
forward.
So
laserfiche
is
the
product
that
we
use
for
document
management,
so
we've
heard
a
lot
about
that
in
the
budget
hearings.
In
fact,
we've
got
a
discussion
later
on
in
this
meeting,
where
we're
bringing
some
additional
proposal
related
to
document
management
systems.
G
This
platform
handles
all
of
the.
The
electronic
documents
were
currently
implemented
in
almost
every
department
in
the
county.
At
this
point,
including
the
courts,
we
have
several
projects
that
are
in
flight
as
well
as
project
requests.
It
is
a
strategic
platform
for
this
document.
Management
function,
laserfiche
as
a
product
went
through
a
competitive
bid
process
five
years
ago
and
was
selected
as
the
strategic
platform
that
we
would
be
on.
Laserfiche
does
not
franchise
out
their
support
and
maintenance
so
similar
to
you,
know
some
other
products.
G
You
know
once
once
we
select
that
product
and
platform.
We
we
basically
live
with
them,
providing
the
support
and
maintenance.
So
that's
what
this
is
is
to
extend
a
new
support
and
maintenance
agreement
for
five
years,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
again
the
projects
that
we
have
in
flight,
the
hundreds
of
millions
of
documents
literally
that
have
been
stored
in
this
application.
G
G
We
used
laserfiche
and
very
quickly
built
the
applications
for
all
of
those
grants.
We
built
the
routing
for
all
of
those
grants
to
go
through
the
review
and
approval,
whether
that
was
through
economic
development
or
fiscal
services
through
purchasing
to
send
the
agreements
to
the
recipients,
so
laserfiche
facilitated.
All
of
that,
it
is
a
very
strategic
platform
for
us
and
that's
the
reason
for
this
extension
is
the
maintenance
and
support
going
forward
so
I'll
be
happy
to
take
any
questions.
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J
Well,
let
me
set
it
up
here.
A
little
bit,
we've
been
struggling
a
little
bit
in
regards
to
our
recruitment
process
for
our
senior
level
positions
in
nit.
Fortunately,
we
haven't
had
a
big
turnover.
There
is
a
particular
opposition,
the
tsn
position
that
has
been
open
since
this
administration
has
started.
J
We
had
some
analysis
done
on
this
and
it
has
been
our
position
working
with
hr
to
change
these
position.
Titles,
so
that
if
they
do
become
open
in
the
future
that
we
can
be
more
competitive,
we
can't
offer
the
same
money
as
I.t
departments
in
the
private
sector
can.
But
from
a
title
perspective,
we
want
to
be
a
little
bit
more
aggressive
with
the
titles,
and
we
are
also
asking
for
a
cio
position.
J
There's
a
lot
going
on
you
just
heard
from
director
mike
tim
in
regards
to
it
they're
doing
everything
possible
to
to
make
sure
and
keep
our
systems
running
and
maintain,
but
we
would
like
to
get
a
chief
information
officer
position
available
so
that
we
can
have
some
more
strategic
planning
done
in
the
future.
This
is
budget
neutral
and
it's
also
position
neutral
as
well.
I
don't
know
if
there's
anything
else
to
add.
H
H
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
if
we
are
making
these
changes
to
that
structure
that
we
are
somehow
figuring
out
to
be
competitive
because
again,
we
don't
run
into
the
same
thing
that
nobody's
coming,
and
we
know
that
that's
the
climate
of
what
we
in
so
we
got
to
try
to
make
it
as
attractive
as
possible.
We're.
J
Trying
to
make
the
salaries
a
little
bit
more
competitive
as
well,
we
we
can't
be
as
competitive
as
they
are
out
in
the
private
sector,
so
so
from
a
title
perspective
and
also
from
a
range
perspective
on
on
those
positions
and-
and
there
will
be
over
the
next
12
to
18
months-
also
looking
at
the
rest
of
the
organization
too,
it
doesn't
just
start
at
the
top.
But
that's
that's
my
responsibility
in
regards
to
having
oversight
of
it
is,
is
to
make
this
change
first
and
then
look
at
the
rest
of
the
organization.
H
I
mean
because
I'm
gonna
say
this
when
what
was
his
name
berlini.
Is
that
who
left
brutality
when
bernaline
left
he
left
and
tim's
at
least,
took
the
initiative
to
kind
of
step
in
place
and
carry
us
through
right.
So
I
just
want
to
kind
of
understand
from
you,
because
you
got
to
work
with
these
people
and
I
understand
this
leadership,
but
I
just
want
to
kind
of,
and
I
just
can't
wait.
G
Thank
you,
commissioner.
I
I
support
this
resolution.
I
support
this
moving
forward.
You
know
for
the
last
three
years
I
have
been
doing
my
best
to
fill
that
empty
role,
yep
and
the
empty
tsn
manager
role.
Obviously
I
can't
do
all
three
jobs,
because
the
director
job
is
still
a
job
also,
and-
and
I
think
this
is
a
good
strategy
for
us
to
move
forward-
and
I
have
talked
with
sean
about
how
we
continue
to
do
that,
so
I'm
supportive
of
moving
forward
in
this
direction
as
well.
Thank
you
for
your.
H
Comments
I
I
love
that
that
he's
okay,
you
know
that
he
has
a
positive
spin
on
it.
So
thank
you
so
much
because
we
all
got
to
be
a
team
in
this
transformation
and
I
would
hate
to
hit
here.
You
had
an
issue
with
it
and
you
then
got
out
on
us,
because
I
have
a
different
regard
with
you,
because
you
have
helped
carry
us
this
far.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
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E
Director
of
rather
than
whatever
it
was
before
it's
sort
of
like
in
and
if
you
want
to
change
it
even
more,
it
became
even
more
competitive,
it
could
be
executive
director
of
or
maybe
even
senior
executive,
director
of
or
super
senior.
So
basically
we're
just
putting
more
like
stars
there,
but
not
changing
the
position
themselves
doesn't
cost
us
anything.
Why
not.
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C
F
Whatever
it
is
on
top
the
draft
yeah
sponsors,
but
we
we.
This
is
a
pilot
program.
We
our
goal
was
to
have
five
pds
participate.
We
have
seven,
we
we've
really
been
embraced
by
the
police
departments
in
our
area
and
yesterday's
call.
They
were
looking
to
add
more,
but
we
are
going
to
keep
it
a
pilot
program
and
charlie's
been
just
a
great
advocate
for
the
cit
program
as
well
as
commissioner
spizz,
and
I'm
always
saying:
okay,
charlie,
you
explained
that
one
and
he
does
and
he
does
a
great
job.
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C
Team,
so
this
is
a
pilot
program
to
initiate
a
gun
buyback
that
would
be
hosted
on
one
day
that
all
the
participating
police
agencies
agree
upon
so
like
october
29th
and
the
goal
would
be
to
give
people
gift
cards
or
gas
cards
in
exchange
for
them,
giving
us
their
guns
and
the
guns
will
be
checked
and
then
put
through
property
right.
You
know
all
these
words
put
through
property
and
then
they'll
be
taken
away
to
a
different
location
to
be
destroyed,
and
so
in
exchange
for
getting
guns
off
the
streets.
F
And
the
event's
gonna
be
held
outside,
which
was
something
that
I
think
the
chief
baron
from
southfield
added,
that
that
was
such
a
good
addition
to
the
whole
plan,
so
that
nobody's
walking
in
with
guns
to
any
place.
They
don't
get
out
of
their
car.
It's
in
the
trunk.
They
open
the
trunk
because
some
of
the
guns
could
be
loaded,
and
you
know
we're
looking
to
really
provide
as
much
safety
around
this
event
as
soon
as
I'll
be.
F
And
let
me
just
add,
I
have
to
thank
our
chief
of
staff
on
this,
but
it
is
a
grant
that
we're
going
to
be
giving
to
the
police
departments
they're
running
it,
we're
not
telling
them
what
to
do
we're
listening
to
their
feedback
and
they're
all
very
excited
about
it.
It's
it's
new
for
many
departments
and
and
we'll
see
how
it
goes.
C
And
in
yesterday's
call
you'll
see
here,
it's
five
thousand
dollar
grants
per
police
department.
When
we
were
talking
to
the
policing
agencies,
they
said
well,
it's
gonna
take
like
2500
just
for
overtime
and
then
we'll
have
to
buy
gift
cards.
So
we'd
also
like
to
request
an
upping
from
five
thousand
dollars
per
agency
to
20,
to
7
500
per
agency.
Is
that.
J
E
H
F
C
F
Then,
to
be
honest,
there
are
those
that
don't
bring
in
a
lot
of
guns
sure,
so
we
we
were
very
honest
in
our
presentation
with
the
pd's.
They
they
knew
that
the
data,
the
data
shows
some
work
and
some
don't,
but
the
incentives
do
help
and
also
packaging
it
with
the
gun,
safety,
locks
and
information
on
gun,
safes
and
and
educational
information
increases.
Your
your
out,
your
your
numbers,
okay,
commissioner,.
H
M
H
F
And
on
on
informing
the
local
pds
about
it
with
the
help
of
undersheriff
childs,
he
put
me
in
touch
with
the
head
of
the
police
association
who
sent
out
the
request
to
to
all
the
chiefs,
and
we've
done
some
follow-up
with
chief,
so
everybody
was
invited
and
now
it's
starting
to
get
a
little
bit
more
traction,
but
we've
got
to
cut
it
off
just
to
see
how
it
goes.
Yeah.
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B
F
Resolution
and
I
want
to
know
not
a
one-time
event-
we're
planning
events
throughout
the
year.
This
is
just
the
kickoff
event,
but
the
cit
resolution
was
part
of
this
committee
and
we're
looking
at
an
educational
component,
we're
looking
at
mental
health
first
aid,
which
will
be
for
residents
we're
looking
to
partner
with
ochn
on
that
one
and
then
the
co-responders.
C
But
this
so
the
title
anti-violence
initiative
is
that's
just
basically
what
marsha
mike
and
I
call
our
little
club
when
we
have
our
meetings
so
part
of
the
anti-violence
initiative
was
the
cit
program
in
collaboration
with
the
sheriff's
office.
This
is
part
of
the
anti-violence
initiative,
as
it's
just
something
we'd
like
to
do
all
this
money
goes
just
to
the
gun,
buyback
pilot
program,
and
that's
all
that
this
is
about
to
see.
But
more
broadly,
the
reason
we
talked
about
gun
buybacks.
The
reason
we
all
came
together
was
around:
how
can
we
prevent
violence?
F
F
B
F
B
F
B
I'll
take
that
back
then
I'll.
Take
that
back.
I
was
wrong
in
that
regard,
but
yeah
I
just
in
in
this
regard
too,
and
you
know
I
did
some
research
on
this
issue
and
for
the
most
part,
the
common
thing
is.
Is
that
there
these
programs
are
not
effective,
they're,
just
not
they're,
they
don't
really
make
a
difference
at
all.
It's
just
kind
of
like
a
feel-good
thing.
F
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I
mean
I
guess
specifically
around
this
pro
this
program.
If
this
program
manages
to
find
one
weapon,
that's
been
used
in
multiple
crimes
that
could
help
lead
to
the
prosecution
of
those
individual
things
or
at
least
be
able
to
connect
crimes
that
might
have
been
involved.
In
that
I
mean
it's
true,
it's
worth
it
I
mean.
Is
it
I
mean?
Is
it
by
itself
going
to
end
gun
violence?
No,
when
we
talk
about
responsible
gun
ownership,
we
talk
about
the
importance
of
locking
up
weapons.
K
We
talk
about,
I
mean
I
mean
passing
out,
gun
locks
and
helping
champion
advancing
the
the
priority
of
using
gun
locks
so
that
mostly
mostly
accidents
of
gun,
violence
that
happen
within
the
home
and
if
there's
a
way
that,
if,
if
it
just
on
the
event,
the
margin
has
a
slight
ability.
I
think
this
is
a
great
example.
I
want
to
applaud
everyone.
Who's
been
working
on
it,
working
with
our
local
law
enforcement
to
get
the
word
out,
stand
together
with
law
enforcement.
K
C
Luck,
thanks
chuck,
you
bring
up
a
good
point
yesterday
on
the
call
we
had
a
pastor
who
was
on
who
told
us
about
how,
when
people
attempt
suicide,
they
have
a
90
completion
rate
with
a
firearm
and
that
75
of
all
completed
suicides
in
america
are
done
with
firearms.
So
right
it
might
not
reduce
violent
crime,
but
it
definitely
does
what
you
were
saying
chair.
E
C
F
E
Follow
up
a
bunch
of
phones?
No,
no!
So
you
and
you're
you're
meeting
regularly.
What
do
you
mean
a
couple
weeks
every
couple
of
weeks,
okay,
completely
divorced
from
whether
this
is
good
or
bad.
This
I
think
you're
you're,
possibly
having
a
a
little
club.
This
is
official.
It's
talk
about
spending
money
you!
You
should
be
aware
that
you
might
be
running
into
problems
with
the
with
open
meetings,
act,
issues
having
a
club.
C
K
I
heard
that
was
described
as
such.
I
would
say
that
this
amounts
more
to
a
study
group
of
fact-finding
of
bringing
information.
The
deliberation
on
the
policy
comes
back
to
this
body,
which
is
appropriately
posted.
This
has
been
mostly
getting
research
talking,
I
mean
working
with
the
sheriff's
office
and
local
law
enforcement
there.
This
group
of
policy
leaders-
and
I
applaud
that
they've
stepped
up
to.
I
mean
kind
of
gather
this
information.
For
us.
They
are
not
a
deliverable,
deliberative
body
by
themselves.
E
E
A
Okay,
anybody
else,
I
I
had
two
points
one
is,
you
can't
prove
a
negative,
which
is
if
somebody
doesn't
kill
themselves
or
shoot
the
kid
next
door
or
whatever,
because
a
gun
got
turned
in
we'll,
never
know,
but
I
think
that's
really.
The
statistics
are
the
more
guns
that
are
out
there.
The
more
gun
deaths
there
are.
So
this
is
really
trying
to
address
that,
even
if
it's
just
a
ripple
in
the
pond
to
get
started.
A
Truth
is
a
lot
of
the
guns
that
are
going
to
get
turned
in
are
not
the
ones
we
really
want
right,
but
they
are
going
to
get
turned
in.
When
I
had
to
clear
out
my
in-laws
house
a
few
years
back
lo
and
behold
in
the
basement,
we
find
this
big
old
shotgun.
You
know
we
weren't
gun
owners.
We
didn't,
I
don't
even
know
why
my
father-in-law
had
it.
So
I
wanted
to
get
rid
of
it
and
I
called
the
local
police
and
they
were
like
whoa.
A
D
B
I
A
B
A
F
Gershon
I
would
be
happy
to,
but
I
have
not
been
prepped
by
commissioner
lubes,
but
I
know
she
was
instrumental
in
developing
the
clausen
farmers
market
and
this
just
adds
some
necessary
money
to
publicize
it
and
to
secure
the
event
in
the
community.
But
is
there
anything
else,
I'm
missing?
No,
so
so
it's
just
an
effort
to
to
propel
this
farmer's
market
in
her
community.
A
C
F
C
A
D
In
the
demolition
of
the
building,
which
was
being
done
through
eagle
state,
they
found
more
contamination
than
they
originally
thought.
So
they
had
to
take
up
all
the
footings
from
the
building
because
they
were
contaminated
and
then
replace
all
the
dirt
all
the
way
around
the
puddings
and
the
whole.
D
A
A
How
did
that
happen
and
where
did
that
come
from
and
we
have
figured
it
out,
it
was
this
company
electroplating,
that's
no
longer
in
business,
their
building
just
sat
there
and
started
to
deteriorate,
and
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
the
state
of
michigan
and
oakland
county
paid
to
have
that
taken
care
of
through
eagle
and
and
so
on.
When
people
say,
oh
government
doesn't
do
anything
for
us
and
our
taxes
are
too
high.
We're
glad
when
we're
available
to
clean
up
these
environmental
hazards.
A
That
you
know
could
potentially
affect
a
large
part
of
the
population,
and
I've
often
wondered
about
these.
You
know
brownfields
everywhere,
throughout
oakland,
county
from
old
manufacturing
companies
where
companies
walked
away
and
nobody
paid
the
bill
to
clean
it
up
and
that's
what
government
does
sometimes
and
we
may
not
like
spending
our
tax
dollars
that
way,
but
that's
what
we
do
so,
commissioner,.
K
Woodward
well-
and
I
would
just
say
that
this
is
more
than
more
than
that
I
mean
this-
was
litigation
to
condemn
these
properties,
the
city
of
madison
heights.
Let
me
do
an
incredible
amount
of
work
to
I
mean
really
take
this
property
away
from
an
owner
that
was
incredibly
negligent.
This
speaks
to
doing
polluter
pay
policy.
I
mean
all
these
types
of
things
clean
it
up
moving
forward.
It
was
really
a
demonstration
of
incredible
partnership
at
all
levels.
A
A
H
Just
to
share
with
my
colleagues
you
all
probably
remember,
mr
bell,
mr
bell
comes
and
does
the
scientifical
presentations
at
our
meetings
and
he's
doing
great
things
with
our
kids
in
throughout
michigan,
but
more
and
more
so
right
here
in
oakland
county,
he
has
been
in
districts.
I
think
on
both
sides
of
the
aisles
to
do
presentations
with
kids
and
stem.
H
H
A
lot
of
those
kids
don't
are
not
afforded
the
opportunity
to
even
see
things
like
this,
so
if
we
can
continue
to
support
him
and
allow
him
to
bring
this
exposure
and
these
opportunities
to
our
kids
it'll
just
help
them
in
the
long
run.
So
I
hope
that
I
can
gain
your
support
in
supporting
his
organization
and
alternative
marsha.
Did
you
want
to.
F
Well,
I
mean
I've
been
friends
with
mr
bell
for
many
years
now,
and
so
this
is
so
exciting
to
be
able.
I
I'm
very
grateful
to
the
special
projects
fund,
which
we
allocated
1.3
million
dollars
to
and
gives
us
the
freedom
to
really
support
worthy
residents
that
are
working
to
empower
our
kids
and
he
goes
like
angela
said
he
goes
all
across
the
country,
but
his
focus
is
in
oakland
county,
so
he's
extremely
excited.
K
K
M
M
A
A
I
Just
a
little
background,
waterford
has
had
a
riverwalk
for
many
years
and
within
the
last
probably
eight
years,
they've
really
been
working
to
bring
attention
to
it
and
to
expand
leveraging
local
partners
to
make
this
happen,
and
they
were
recently
able
to
secure
an
easement
with
a
condo
association
to
connect
the
riverwalk
to
the
drayton
plains.
Nature
center.
I
I
K
And
I
wanna
I
mean
applaud
both
commissioners.
Julian
I
mean
nelson.
I
mean
this.
Is
this
really
speaks
to
trail
build-out?
It
is
one
of
the
hardest
things
to
get
funded.
Is
the
preliminary
planning
or
engineering
of
whatever
this
is,
whereas
philanthropic
dollars
and
other
dollars
coming
are
much
easier
to
come
in
to
build
it?
K
They
generally
don't
pay
for
that
preliminary
work
and
in
part,
because
it's
a
measure
of
like,
are
we
serious
about
like
doing
this,
and
so
the
hope
is
with
this
upon
the
completion
of
this
that
dollars,
whether
it's
through
I
mean
other
corporate
sponsorship
or
philanthropic
dollars
to
actually
build
off
the
trail.
To
connect,
I
mean
to
connect
these
trail
systems
that
exist.
I
I
K
C
A
A
H
They
have
been
doing
some
work
in
the
wayne
county
area
and
they
finally
made
their
home
site
for
oakland
county
in
the
city
of
pontiac
and
they're,
actually
in
the
bottom
section
of
the
lighthouse
right
off
of
a
white
track
in
woodward,
and
that's
where
there's
housing
their
office
is
housed,
but
basically
is
is
very
direct
here.
They
want
to
assist
returning
citizens
and
help
them
overcome
all
the
barriers.
We
know
that
returning
citizens
face
in
employment
resident
residency,
just
all
types
of
things,
just
to
get
them
acclimated
and
they
even
have
structured
programs.
H
They
broke
all
this
down,
so
they
have
a
plan.
They
have
a
program
and
one
one
of
the
exciting
things
is
that
some
of
those
returning
citizens
now
work
for
them.
They're
they're
in
these
leadership
roles
to
help
others
get
through
it
and
how?
What
better
way
is
that
when
you
actually
see
people
who
went
through
this
program
and
you
can
follow-
and
that
is
that
mentor
or
leader
to
just
still
bring
confidence
to
that
individual
who's
facing
the
barriers
that
patience
is
is
patience
is
the
key,
but
you
can
get
there
too.
H
D
D
H
D
To
get
our
participants
to
long-term
employment,
there's
a
lot
of
barriers
that
all
of
us,
regular
citizens,
don't
experience
that
they
do
experience
that
we
want
to
be
able
to
tackle.
Commissioner
powell
mentioned
housing.
Housing
is
a
big
barrier
that
they
experience
transportation
as
simple
as
birth
certificates.
Just
getting.
D
What
that
is
is
the
skills,
because
we
deal
with
individuals
who
want
probably
don't
have
a
high
school
diploma,
don't
have
a
ged
would
like
to
do,
or
while
they
were
on
the
inside
did
vocational
training.
They
know
how
to
do
carpentry.
How
do
we
develop
that?
How
do
we
develop
welding
skills?
How
do
we
develop
cdl?
So
those
are
the
kind
of
things
that
we'd
like
to
do
with
this
upskilling.
E
That's
a
question:
I
know
that
this
issue
we've
dealt
with
the
old
prisoner
reentry,
and
things
like
that.
We've
tried
to
address.
I
applaud
what
you're
doing.
I
think
it's
very
necessary
and
people
get
out
of
get
out
of
prison.
They
shouldn't
just
be
left
to
flounder,
and
so
I
be
very
happy
to
support
it.
Thank.
L
A
A
A
Michigan
is
doing
a
study
of
the
whole
state
in
terms
of
broadband
access
they're,
not
including
the
three
counties,
macomb
oakland
and
wayne,
because
we're
too
dense
and
we're
considered
to
have
broadband
pretty
much
throughout,
but
we
all
know
that
that's
not
really
true,
okay,
so
so
what
we
have
done
is
this
committee
is
looking
at
trying
to
find
out
what
the
gaps
are
in
oakland
county.
Where
do
we
have
internet
access?
Where
don't
we
and
how
you
know?
What
are
the
levels
and
so
on?
A
A
couple
of
other
counties
that
we
just
spoke
with
last
week,
watchdog
county
for
one,
has
hired
an
organization
that
actually
went
out
and
did
all
that
and
that's
what
we're
looking
studying
it
and
and
creating
help
helping
to
create
a
plan
for
what.
Where
we're
going
to
go
next
semcog
had
grants
available
planning
grants
to
do
exactly
that,
so
we
applied
for
one
and
macomb
and
wayne
county
applied
for
one.
As
part
of
the
tri-county
summit
we
were
awarded
45
000
to
us
wayne
county
was
awarded
forty
five
thousand.
A
A
K
F
A
F
Yeah
right
I
mean
if,
after
talking
administration
on
the
floor,
you
could
say
refundable.
If
it,
it
could
be
refundable
by
arpa,
but
the
thing
is
it'll
delay
right
and
if
you
want
to
move
ahead,
but
I
have
to
really
say
how
excited
I
am
about
this
whole
initiative.
We've
been
talking
about
doing
something
about
broadband
in
oakland
county
for
years,
so
at
least
we're
starting
the
journey
yeah.
It's
a.
B
A
We
will
probably
end
up
spending
that
money
down
the
road,
but
right
now
we
don't
know
what
we
want
to
do
is
where
I'm
at
all,
we.
What
we
want
to
do
right
now
is
figure
out
what
we
don't
know.
Where
are
the
gaps
in
the
county
so
that
we
can
start
to
pull
a
plan
together
and
then
I
expect
there
will
be
bigger
investments.
A
For
example,
if
we
decide
we
want
to
try
to
create
a
backbone
through
down
grand
river,
for
example.
Just
as
an
example,
I
don't
know
if
that's
something
we
will
do,
but
it's
an
idea
that
a
cable
back
bone
down
grand
river,
that's
the
kind
of
thing
I
think
the
million
dollars
is
is
more
geared
toward,
because
we
think
it's
going
to
be
much
more
expensive
to
do
what
we
want
to
do.
I
mean
we're
talking
hundreds
of
millions,
but
right
now
this
was
just
a
way
recommended
by
semcog.
Hey.
A
B
A
A
Okay,
my
chief
over
here,
they
did
talk
about
that
a
couple
of
days
ago
when
we
met
as
a
group
with
the
other
counties.
This
is
federal
money
that
comes
through
semcog
for
these
planning
grants.
So
that's
one
thing
also
they
are
talking
about
it
like
this
is
how
they
started
the
highway
system.
You
know
trying
to
figure
out
where
they
needed
the
highways
to
go
back
in
the
50s.
A
It's
in
trying
to
understand
in
trying
to
understand
this.
What
I
will
say
is
every
time
we
talk
about
it,
I
get
more
confused.
Can
I
say
that
it
is
yeah
you
can
it's
better
yeah?
No,
it
is
I
mean
if
you
talk
to.
For
example,
I've
talked
to
the
people
in
farmington,
farmington
hills
where
they
together
figured
out.
A
They
wanted
to
handle
broadband
by
themselves
and
they
hired
a
corp
corporation
to
come
in
and
lay
that
backbone
and
then
all
of
the
other
cable
people
will
be
hooking
into
it,
and
they've
worked
out
a
whole
financial
structure.
To
do
that.
Well,
that's
good,
but
that's
not
what
some
other
communities
are
doing.
So
I
I
was
talking
to
somebody
from
novi
yesterday
and
I
said
they
said:
oh
yeah,
we
spent
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
figure
out
where
our
gaps
are
well.
Okay
and
oh,
you
can
have
our
information
if
you
want.
A
I
said
that's
great,
we'll
pull
that
information
in,
but
it's
not
consistent.
You
know
you
go
out
into
say
the
hinterlands
where
you
live
and
there
are
people
who
don't
have
any
cable
coming
to
them
and
you
know
so
it's
no.
She
meant
me
no
well.
Either
commerce
is
the
same
rose.
Township
I
mean
try.
A
A
real
plan-
this
is
just
the
first
step
of
trying
to
figure
out
what
we
don't
really
know
that
we
don't
know,
but
the
company
that
we're
thinking
about
using
is
the
company
that
was
used
by
washtenaw
county
and
also
the
state
of
michigan
is
using
them
merit.
Who
else
is
using
livingston
county
as
well?
So
we
are
talking
we're
trying
to
get
ideas
from
other
counties,
we're
a
little
bit
behind.
Actually
like
washington.
County
has
been
working
on
this
for
over
four
years,
and
they
they
know
what
they're
doing
so.
Okay,
thank
you.
B
E
A
Well,
as
I
said,
motion
carries,
as
I
said
before,
the
staff
really
keeps
us
in
the
right
place.
You
know
moving
forward
doing
the
right
things
so
all
right,
that's
it
for
the
department
recommendations,
we're
going
to
move
on
to
item
9,
the
legislative
affairs
and
government
operations
committee,
recommendations,
item
9a
fiscal
years,
2022
23,
24,
25
and
26
for
employees
represented
by
the
oakland
county,
sheriff
deputy
sheriff's
association,
representing
the
corrections
and
court
services
unit
and
law
enforcement
unit
and
we're
going
to
have
administration
and
the
sheriffs
here.
A
A
L
Well,
thank
you.
I
have
here,
obviously
under
sheriff
childs,
as
well
as
management
and
budget
director
kyle
jenn,
to
help
support
any
questions
that
you
may
have
about
this
contract.
This
is
for
the
oakland
county,
deputy
sheriff's
association.
This
is
one
of
our
largest
unions
that
we
have
in
oakland
county.
This
is
a
little
different.
I
think
you
you
know.
All
of
you
have
been
with
me
as
we've
worked
through
all
of
these
wage
reopeners
and
union
contracts
for
the
last
two
years.
L
This
one
is
a
little
bit
of
a
different
flavor.
If
that
makes
sense,
so
one
of
the
things
that's
been
was
very
apparent
and
something
we
were
really
trying
to
focus
on
with
this
particular
group.
Is
that,
unlike
where
we
are
in
you
know,
I
don't
necessarily
care
for
the
term
of
the
great
resignation,
that's
a
little
different
than
this
than
what
we
did
here.
L
Policing
and
law
enforcement
has
had
significant
issues
over
the
last
10
to
15
years,
as
it
relates
to
recruiting
and
attention
or
retention
just
due
to
the
nature
of
the
job.
A
lot
more
people
are
not
going
into
this
field,
and
this
is
in
all
areas,
not
just
road
patrol
and
corrections,
but
also
911
dispatchers.
L
As
we
worked
through
this
I'll
do
the
high
level
there
was
a
this
was
a
pretty
large
contract.
So
I'll
just
talk
about
the
hype
talking
points
here,
we
did
focus
on
three
particular
areas.
We
focused
on
wages
and
retirement
and
some
other
adjustments
that
they
needed
within
their
their
classification
system
to
work
best
for
their
department
as
it
relates
to
wages.
They
received
a
five
percent
for
the
year,
one
four
for
year,
two
three
for
2024
and
then
a
two
and
a
two
with
the
me
too.
L
The
other
thing
that
we
did
for
2022
is
worked
with
them.
For
what's
called
a
retention
bonus
that
is
actually
carried
over
in
two
fiscal
years:
one
half
in
september
and
half
in
october,
I'd
like
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
that,
so
the
five
percent
wage
422
is
actually
retro,
so
they
should
have.
If
had
we
been
able
to
come
to
an
agreement
in
october
of
22,
it
would
have
started
then
so
we'll
go
back
and
retro
their
5,
and
the
retention
bonus
was
important
for
a
couple
of
reasons.
L
One
is
that
we
currently
have
recruiting
bonuses
for
these
positions
right
now,
at
the
same,
at
the
same
rate
of
about
thirty
two
hundred
dollars,
it's
not
that's
becoming
quite
everybody
across
the
state
and
in
the
country
has
been
doing
reta,
recruiting
bonuses,
and
so
one
of
the
things
we
want
to
look
at
because
of
how
many
people
we
were
hiring.
You
have
people,
you
have
individuals
working
side
by
side
for
those
that
are
coming
in
with
a
3200
bonus.
L
We
also
wanted
to
make
sure
that
those
folks
who
have
been
working
the
overtime,
the
empty
slots-
they
also
that
we
do
a
good
job
of
retaining
them
as
well.
So
that's
where
the
bonus
came
from
now.
Those
that
did
we
get
a
recruiting
bonus
will
not
also
get
the
retention
bonus,
so
it
would
just
be
those
that
who
have
been
here.
L
So
that's
where
we
are
on
the
wages.
The
other
key
component
here
that
we
really
focused
on
was
the
retirement.
So
we
were
one
of
the
first
in
the
in
in
well.
We
were
one
of
the
first
in
oakland
county
to
go,
we'll
move
away
from
the
defined
benefit,
which
is
what
people
consider
a
pension
to
the
401
plan.
L
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
wanted
to
take
a
look
at
was:
are
we
competitive?
Are
we
top
of
market
for
that,
but
also
realizing
that
our
law
enforcement
personnel
tend
to
retire
between
10
and
15
years
earlier
than
the
average
person
just
due
to
the
nature
of
their
job?
And
so
throughout
this
five-year
contract
we
have.
It
will
end
the
five
years
we
ramped
up
through
the
years
where
the
county
will
contribute
14
and
they
will
match
that
up
to
six
percent.
So
it's
a
20
contribution.
L
So
with
that
too
you'll
notice
here
that
in
the
past,
we've
often
done
a
three-year
contract
and
we've
moved
it
to
a
five-year
contract
to
allow
them
to
allow
us
to
get
that
flexibility
to
get
that
comprehensive
wage
and
retirement
package,
but
then
also
to
help
us
as
we.
You
know
we
have
those
cvt
contracts
and
so
we're
often
behind
the
eight
ball.
So
you
you
know
you
negotiate
a
new
contract.
L
L
E
L
E
L
E
Five
percent
over
okay,
so
it's
five
percent
over
that's
the
retention
basis.
Okay,
so,
instead
of
really,
instead
of
giving
nine
percent
raise
your
g,
it's
considerably
less
in
reality
because
of
the
rate
of
inflation,
I'm
just
thinking
everyone's
going
to
have
to
start
thinking
in
those
terms
again
right.
J
E
L
E
H
Right
going
from
the
three
year
to
five
year,
that
was
a
concern
of
the
sheriffs
that
I
talked
to.
So
I
want
to
understand,
get
a
better
understanding
of
what
was
the.
How
did
we
come
to
that
decision
to
allow
that
from
this
three
year
to
five
year,
and
then
you
did
say
that
we
went
from
a
pension,
we're
or
we're
going
from
a
pension
to
a
structured
retirement
plan.
H
L
H
L
Sure
so
I
mean,
I
think,
it's
important
too,
that
you
know
we
were
all
sitting
at
the
table
together
and
came
up
with
the
tentative
agreement,
and
you
know
they
ratified
that.
So
when
we
left
the
table
and
they
ratified
that
we
all
were
in
agreement
that
this
was
the
best
move
moving
forward.
But
the
five
year
was
to
allow
us
to
to
be
able
to
continue
giving
them.
You
know
the
extra
benefit
of
the
401.
L
So
when
you
look
at
the
last
two
years,
we
really
ramp
up
we,
so
they
had
three
it's
kind
of
interesting.
They
have
three
classifications,
so
they
have
or
three
different
units.
So
you
had
so
this
is
another
thing:
is
there
wasn't
equity
not
only
in
the
pay
but
also
in
the
retirement
for
the
corrections
deputies?
So
we
had
to
move
the
correction
deputies
up
as
well.
L
So
we
focused
that
on
the
first
year,
along
with
the
the
pay
increase
and
the
retention
bonus,
and
then
you
see
throughout
the
years
we
add
in,
we
have
a
couple
two
percent
increases
into
their
401,
so
it
was
allowed
to
allow
us
to
smooth
that
out.
A
little
bit
and
make
sure
that,
by
the
time
that
this
was
over,
that
that
we
were
in
that
place,
I
mean
20
percent
is
unheard
of.
C
L
C
C
D
K
H
C
K
Open
to
looking
at
it
sooner
at
the
same
time
recognizing
that
the
communities
need
time
to
make
adjustments
in
lago
I
mean
I
shared.
I
met
with
the
supervisors,
the
county,
the
oakland
county
supervisors
earlier,
and
there
was
some
were
definitely
aware
of
this
conversation
by
kind
of
what
some
of
these
costs
and
currents
were,
and
so
internally
they're
planning
for
it,
and
I
think,
when
this
is
ratified,
I
believe
that
we'll
be
communicating
like
this
is
on
the
horizon.
So.
K
K
C
K
L
C
C
L
C
L
Well,
I
was
already
knee-deep
in
this,
so
he
he
dan
helped
support
me,
but
at
this
point
it
didn't
make
sense
for
me
to
release
the
reins
and
even
though,
even
in
this
instance,
I
probably
would
have
been
seated
at
the
table.
But
all
of
this,
these
lovely
folks
were
sitting
at
the
table
with
me
as
well.
L
D
B
B
H
B
I
B
H
B
There's
a
fixed
cost
depending
on
what
type
of
position,
because
we
have
some
fill
and
no
fill
whether
we
have
to
fill
those
like
if
they're,
if
they're
out
on
labor
and
they're
on
vacation,
then
some
of
them
we
have
to
fill
in
some
of
them.
We
don't
depending
on
what
type
of
contract,
so
some
of
them
have
a
mixture
and
then
most
of
them.
H
K
K
So
I
mean
they
get
it
relatively
quickly
and
they
get
it
up
front
and
on
average
I
mean
I
think,
that
four
to
five
percent
of
what
of
the
average
salary
in
the
united
states.
So
I
think
it's
important
it's
not
a
salary
per
se.
I
mean
adjustment,
but
it's
I
mean
it
is
recognizing
trying
to
address
the
I
mean
the
cost
of
living
issues
and
making
the
I
mean
and
retention
of
those
I
mean
the
officers
have
been
really
sticking
with
us
all
this
time,
a
question
they
asked.
K
K
C
K
K
Just
given
the
fact
that
officers
I
mean
need
physically
need
to
retire
sooner
for
a
variety
of
reasons,
but
I
mean
nonetheless,
is
the
physical
labor
and
and
the
weight
that
they
have
to
bear.
I
guess
emotionally
and
physically
I
mean
it's
part
of
the
job
that
their
bodies
physically
can't
do.
I
mean
can't
kind
of
tow
the
road
long
I
mean
longer
some
other
positions
and
so
making
certain
that
we
have
a
position.
K
D
Absolutely
I
know
commissioner
powell
asked
about
that.
We
have
had
people
leave,
it
leave
us
to
go
to
other
departments.
I
would
say
that's
slowing
down,
although
it's
still
occurring,
but
not
as
rapidly
you
know
being
on
the
retirement
board.
I'm
not
a
financial
expert,
but
the
20,
in
my
opinion,
is
huge
right
and,
and
I've
said
that
to
the
both
unions
that
they
need
to
start
as
well
as
us
advising
our
new
employees.
D
K
Well,
there's
also
other
retirement,
the
401bs
that
we
I
mean,
like,
I
think,
about
half
of
the
department.
Half
of
the
deputies
are
not
even
taking
advantage
of
free
money
on
the
table.
I
mean
they
match
up
to
500
a
thousand.
I
mean
what
one
of
those
numbers.
I
also
got
the
numbers
from
oakland
county,
the
board
of
commissioners
and,
like
we
got
fifty
percent
part
of
a
participation,
so
I
mean
people
should
be
participating
in
these
things.
K
These
are
all
part
of
like
figuring
out
how
to
do
it,
and
just
because
the
the
contribution
to
match
requires
a
lot
more
hands-on
that
you
play
a
role
into
and
if
it's
something
that
you're
unfamiliar
with
it's
it
versus
a
pension.
This
is
what
you
get
as
long
as
you
stay
here
this
long.
This
is
what
you
get,
so
it
is
a
transition,
the
those
who
have
left
for
other
departments
again
anecdotally,
most
have
like
told
me
or
I've,
been
told
by
leadership
of
both
our
command
and
deputy
union.
K
It's
that
it
is
the
pension
benefit.
That
is
the
the
thing
that
they
left.
They
didn't
necessarily
want
to
leave,
but
financially
for
them
and
their
family.
It
was
the
right
it
was
the
best
choice
for
them.
So
I
think
that's,
I
think,
that's
great,
and
this
is,
I
think,
it's
also
important
to
recognize
that
this
contract
is
given
the
size
of
this
unit
that
it
fits
within.
K
I
mean
the
budget
constraints,
even
with
the
adoption
of
this
contract
that
I
mean
the
budget
might
know
we're
going
to
be
getting
to
that
conversation
next
or
shortly
it
fits.
I
mean
in
terms
of
a
structurally
balanced
budget.
I
mean
that
the
dollars
that
we're
bringing
in
annually
match
the
expenditures-
and
this
fits
within
that
and
and
we're
able
to
provide-
I
mean,
I
think,
there's
a
generous
increase
in
compensation
on
the
wage
level
benefit
side
as
well
as
the
the
retirement
we
say,
that's
accurate,
yes,
beautiful.
K
D
M
B
H
D
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N
L
K
A
D
D
A
A
A
C
C
Fifty
thousand
dollars
is
funding
for
opportunities
to
nonprofit
organizations
that
provide
senior
centered
services
in
oakland,
county
and
five
thousand
dollars
is
to
reinstate
the
oakland
county,
elder
abuse
prevention
coalition,
and
then
three
million
dollars
is
assigned
for
the
development
of
the
three-year
oakland
county
chore
pilot
program.
Part
of
the
reason
for
that
assignment
is
aaa
1b,
who
we
worked
with
on
coming
up
with
this
concept
and
the
the
ad
hoc
committees,
which
are
a
lot
like
clubs,
but
they're
different
ad
hoc
committees.
C
H
H
H
Yeah,
but
I
know
what
happened
at
osha:
we
had
workers
billing
for
the
stuff
that
they
wasn't
doing.
I
know
yeah,
so
I'm
saying
osha
ended
up
just
okay,
they
lost
it
whatever,
but
this
is
the
same
program,
and
so
my
question
is
that
we're
feeding
this
program
with
triple
a
1b
to
be
able
to
outreach
a
little
bit
more
to
more
seniors.
Correct.
Okay,
just
want
to
clear
that.
Well.
K
I
mean
specifically,
I
mean
why
it's
an
assignment,
because
there's
a
few
things
there
isn't
one
there's
not
triple
a
wouldn't
be
filled
in
the
gap
to
say
we
need
to
manage
this,
but
there's
also
a
recognition
like
this
is
a
lot
of
work.
Do
we
have
enough
contractors
to
do
the
lawn
mowing
snow
plowing,
those
types
of
service?
What
are
I
mean?
What
are
the
options
available
to
us?
Is
it
a
few
smaller
operators
that
operate
this
because
we
haven't
been
able
to
find
someone
else?
H
C
There's
a
part
of
the
reason
this
isn't
so
your
answer
has
two
parts
to
it.
Part
of
the
reason
this
is
also
an
assignment
is
because
there
is
a
request
for
federal,
a
federal
grant
through
the
older
americans
act
by
triple
a
1b,
because
a
match
and
leveraging
dollars,
especially
with
arpa,
is
very
good
and
a
smart
move
and
so
they're
waiting
on
hearing
back,
and
so
if
there
are
federal
funds
for
that,
then
there
are
these
kind
of
weird
and
all
of
you
who
are
on
the
ad
hoc
committee.
C
Please
fill
in
any
gaps
I
miss,
but
there
are
kind
of
weird
rules
where
for
chore
services,
you
can
help
someone
on
the
first
floor
of
their
home,
but
if
they
have
a
second
floor
using
certain
federal
dollars,
you're
not
allowed
to
help
anything
on
the
second
floor
or
if
you
have
chore
services
in
your
community
that
are
snow
removal.
We
that
some
federal
dollars
don't
allow
you
to
do
lawn
mowing.
So
there's
these
sorts
of
kind
of
wonky
rules.
H
But
I
would
just
like
to
be
added,
because
I
was
trying
to
fight
for
something
like
this
prior
to
this
discussion
going
into
this
resolution
yep
and
then
my
second
question.
I
just
want
for
clarity,
because
I
literally
just
got
a
piece
of
mail
from
oakland
woods:
a
senior
living
community.
Basically,
writing
me
to
tell
me
the
impact
they've
had
and
covet
we're
trying
to
support
their
location
their
center
and
that
they're
axing
if
they
can
apply
for
some
funding
to
assist
them.
H
So
when
this
grant
launched
when
this
thing
launched,
this
is
something
that
senior
centers,
which
this
is
a
well
a
senior
living
community
that
I
mean
as
long
as
they
stuff
that
they're
applying
for
applies.
Would
they
be
able
to
try
to
apply
for
what
that
three?
I
guess
the
three
million
category
to
get
assistance
with
this.
C
So
this
is
for
oakland
county
senior
centers,
so
the
thinking-
and
this
is
open
right,
because
this
is
part
of
the
inner
local
agreement
that
would
have
to
come
up.
But
yet
I
don't
see
why,
as
long
as
there's
open
access
to
those
facilities
for
whatever
the
improvements
are
right,
like
I've
been
to
there
so
like
the
community
center,
they
got
that'd
be
perfect,
but
like
helping
someone's
individual
house
that'd
be
a
different
line
item
on
this
grant
or
with
triple
a1p.
H
C
H
The
the
mayor's
office
got
the
same
ass,
so
I
just
wanted
to.
You
know,
provide
the
opportunities
and
stuff
like
that
now
the
process.
So
I
understand
if
this
is
approved
in
in
in
in
and
it's
to
move
forward,
what
does
that
look
like
as
far
as
the
timeline,
so
people
will
be
able
to
start
the
grants
or
we
don't
know
that
part.
C
B
Thank
you,
I'm
kind
of
struggling
with
the
appropriation
and
assignment
here
I
see
where
that,
where
those
four
bullet
points
all
add
up
to
the
three
million
five
hundred
and
fifty
five
thousand,
but
then
it
says,
be
it
further
resolved
that
the
assignment
of
up
to
three
million
will
fund
development
of
a
three-year
oakland
county
chore
program,
which
is
different
than
what's
listed
up
here
so
shouldn't
the
total,
be
six
million.
Five
hundred
fifty-five
thousand.
C
B
K
K
There's
an
appropriation
of
three
point:
three
three
million
five
hundred
fifty
five
thousand
and
then
there's
an
assignment
of
three
million.
We're
appropriating
the
money
to
be
spent
on
these
things,
though
it
makes
those
dollars
releasable
once
the
contracts
and
other
things,
three
million.
We
need
to
figure
out
a
plan
because
we
don't
know
exactly
the
assignments.
Three
million
is
saying,
listen,
there's
at
least
this
much
need
out
there,
but
we
haven't
figured
out.
Is
it
gonna?
K
Go
to
four
vendors
that
will
help,
monitor
and
execute
the
chore
program
is,
is
triple
a
one
be
able
to
absorb
the
whole
thing,
can
triple
eight
rule
b,
take
on
one
million
and
match
with
some
federal
dollars
to
expand
things?
That's
right.
So
we
have
to
figure
this
out,
but
this
is
basically
saying
that
we're
gonna
dedicate
of
our
dollar
three
million
dollars
to
help
bolster
up
short
programs
on
top
of
the
stuff
that
the
cdbg
monies
and
other
things
that
are
being
used
currently.
F
Commissioner
gershon,
so
that's
totally
accurate
because
they
there
are
so
many
questions
about
the
chore
program.
Is
somebody
going
to
be
able
to
run?
It
is
area
agency
on
aging
is
saying
yes,
we
can,
but
we
have
to
wait
and
see
because
of
the
obvious
shortages
of
labor
and
so
many
things,
and
so
so
that's
why
that's
an
assignment.
I
I
F
I
This
is
for
the
community
senior
centers
right
to
help
them
either
refer
or
not,
and
then
I
am
a
little
concerned
only
for
the
5
000
for
the
reinstate
the
oakland
county,
elderly
abuse
prevention,
because
you
guys
know
I
was
a
nurse-
and
this
was
years
ago,
but
in
nursing
homes,
the
abuse
that
went
on
there.
My
car
got
keyed
and
stuff
because
I
turned
people
in
you
know,
but
it
was
pitiful.
I
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
watch
after
that,
as
I'm
huge
and
I
I
do
believe
it
would
have
went
way
up
with
covet
19
with
home.
You
know
like
if,
even
if
it
was
your
mom
home
every
day,
taking
care
of
her
that
the
abuse
probably
went
way
up,
so
it
was
bad.
When
I
I
mean
this
is
1986,
and
I
wasn't
I
I
I
wasn't
going
to
quit
because
they're
trying
to
get
me
to
quit,
because
I
was
sticking
up
for
the
patients,
but
it's
it's
bad.
So.
C
F
F
But
she
wants
administrative
backup
so
that
5000
is
really
to
do
all
the
staff
to
cover
all
the
staffing
work
but,
for
instance,
they're
having
their
first
meeting
and
it's
at
lunch
time,
because
it's
convenient
for
the
judges
and
the
prosecutor
and
everybody
to
attend,
but
they
don't
have
a
budget
for
food,
so
they're
gonna.
I
don't
know
if,
if
they're
gonna
come
to
us
and
ask
for
it,
but
so
we're
watching
that
five
thousand
to
make
sure
that's
an
appropriate
amount
to
support
this.
A
J
J
So
I
know
that
there
we've
got
some
new
members
who
haven't
seen
the
presentation
so
we'll
go
through
this,
and
I
also
am
joined
with
automation,
alley
the
executive
director,
tom
kelly
and
the
chief
operating
officer
pavin
ingrid
ty,
our
economic
development,
director
and
dom
homes.
One
of
our
managers
in
economic
development
has
been
running
point
for
us
for
the
last
couple
years
on
this.
So
when
we
get
done
with
the
presentation
I'll
swing
back
around
and
ask
these
gentlemen
to
join
me
for
any
questions
that
you
might
have
so
project
diamond.
J
J
So
county
executive
coulter
in
march
of
2021
appointed
and
asked
several
business
members
and
community
leaders
to
join
a
task
force
on
that
task
force.
We
broke
out
in
five
different
work
groups:
the
work
group
that
myself
and
ingrid
thai
were
responsible
for
his
economic
development
for
future
prosperity,
work
group-
and
these
are
the
community
leaders
and
business
leaders
that
were
part
of
this
work
group.
We
met
eight
times
all
together
over
over
a
seven
month
period,
project,
project
diamond
phase,
two
as
a
proposal.
J
These
were
our
objectives,
identify
transformational
projects,
support
small
businesses
harmed
by
covid,
ensure
that
investments
are
proportional
and
invest
in
projects
that
will
aid
in
building
a
more
diversified
and
resilient
economy
in
oakland
county
we've
been
in
front
of
this
committee
in
april
when
we
advance
the
business
forward
program,
and
thank
you
for
your
support
for
that.
These
are
the
other
projects
that
this
work
group
have.
You
know
advanced
as
wanting
to
move
forward
in
regards
to
arpa
projects.
J
I'm
here
today,
obviously
for
project
diamond
two,
and
so
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
slide
project
diamond
phase.
Two
was
an
initiative
that
was
born
out
of
the
covid
pandemic.
Oakland
county
asked
automation
alley
for
an
idea
that
would
embrace
industry
4.0.
That's
the
next
industrial
revolution
that
we
are
in
right
now
and
put
these
theories
into
practice,
assist
our
2600
oakland
county
manufacturers
in
becoming
more
resilient
and
responsive
to
future
local
and
national
crisis.
J
We
wanted
to
help
mitigate
supply
chain
issues
and
long
lead
time
for
critical
supplies
and
build
a
sustainable
platform
where
our
small
manufacturing
enterprises
or
smes
could
compete
and
look
to
re-shore
manufacturing
bring
those
manufacturing
jobs
that
we
have
lost,
not
only
in
america,
in
michigan
and
in
this
county
and
bring
them
back
from
where
they've
been
outsourced
to
project
diamond
phase.
One
was
a
success.
J
J
Project
diamond
phase
two:
this
is
all
about
additive
manufacturing,
which
is
changing
today's
complex
supply
chain
added
manufacturing
is
projected
to
be
42
percent
of
the
manufacturing
production
by
2028..
It's
important
for
us
to
embrace
this
as
an
economy
and
shift
with
this
shift.
That's
going
on
and
part
of
phase
one
was
to
do
that
and
phase
two
is
to
create
a
tipping
point.
J
Project
diamond
is
designed
to
help
our
manufacturing
communities
drive
productivity
and
economic
growth,
accelerate
job
and
income
growth,
enhance
innovation
and
competitiveness
and
support
our
national
resilience,
and,
I
would
say,
also
our
local
resilience.
Oakland
county
has
2626
manufacturers
13
billion
dollars
in
manufacturing
gross
domestic
product
gdp
here
in
the
county,
66
000
manufacturing
jobs.
J
Next
slide
speaks
to
the
county
criteria.
In
particular,
I
wanted
to
point
out
that,
as
we
look
at
arpa,
projects
from
a
county
perspective
is
part
of
it.
It
needs
to
be
transformational,
so
will
this
investment
leverage
a
county
strength,
the
county,
strength
that
we're
leveraging
here
is
manufacturing?
J
J
J
J
next
slide
the
arpa
criteria,
we're
looking
to
respond
to
negative
economic
impacts
from
cobit
19,
meet
small
business
eligibility
requirements
and
making
sure
that
this
is
a
proportional
response
to
negative
impacts
from
covet
responding
to
the
negative
economic
impacts.
The
two
two
areas
that
we
are
looking
at
here
are
loans
and
grants
to
mitigate
financial
hardship
from
covet,
which
is
under
the
first
column,
the
second
box
there
down
on
the
left
and
then
also
the
efficacy
of
economic
relief,
improvements
to
data
or
technology
infrastructure.
J
They
need
to
be
qualified,
and
this
is
what
we
will
verify
in
the
application
process
of
whether
that
small
manufacturing
enterprises
had
a
decrease
in
revenue
or
gross
receipts.
Financial
insecurity,
increased
costs,
capacity
to
weather
financial
hardship
and
challenges
covering
payroll,
rent
or
mortgage
or
other
operating
costs.
Also
in
regards
to
proportional
response,
project
diamond
at
15
million
dollars
represents
6.14
percent
of
the
total
arpa
allocation
for
the
county
and,
as
we
received
in
our
oakland
county
economic
outlook
from
the
university
of
michigan
identified
that
our
manufacturing
base
was
impacted
by
20.
J
So
we
believe
that
this
is
a
proportional
response.
Next
slide,
this
gives
a
distribution
of
our
2626
manufacturing.
You
can
see
the
clustering
happens
in
certain
corridors,
I-96
corridor,
the
I-75,
m-59
m24,
and
it's
important
for
us
in
ingrid's,
been
working
and
dom
very
hard
at
making
sure
that
we
know
the
names
of
all
of
our
manufacturing
companies
in
oakland
county
and
how
we're
supporting
them
and
where
they're
located
and
what's
the
best
way
to
support
them.
J
Next
slide,
this
is
a
breakdown
of
our
manufacturers
by
cbt
by
cities,
villages
and
townships,
and
you
can
see
where
the
bulk
of
the
manufacturers
are
located.
Every
community
has
manufacturing
in
your
community
and
I
think
that
that's
great
and
you
can
you
can
see
where,
where
the
numbers
are
next
slide,
this
is
taking
the
previous
slide,
and
so,
if
I'll
just
walk
you
through
this,
if
we
look
at
holley
highland,
milford,
township,
south
lyon,
white
lake,
township
and
commerce
township,
that
represents
146
manufacturers
that
exist
in
those
communities
out
of
2626..
J
That
represents
5.6
percent
of
our
manufacturers
are
located
in
those
communities.
So
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
have
an
equitable
distribution
of
the
3d
printers.
You
can
see
on
project
diamond
phase,
one
we
distributed
23
of
the
250
to
that
community.
That
represents
9.4
it's
in
the
green
because
that's
slightly
higher
than
the
5.6
percent,
so
we
will
look
to
reconcile
the
best
we
can,
but
this
will
also
drive
some
of
the
decision
making.
J
As
as
we
as
we
move
forward,
if
approved
next
slide,
expected
impact
of
project
diamond
phase,
two
can
help
address
the
supply
chain.
Issues
in
bringing
jobs
back
to
the
united
states,
as
well
as
to
oakland
county
additive
manufacturing,
has
the
possibility
of
creating
new
skilled
jobs
and
also
would
result
in
spin-off
jobs.
3D
printing
can
has
the
ability
to
onshore
new
investments.
J
Next
next
slide
impact
of
inaction,
and
I
think
this
is
an
important
slide
to
denote
is
since
2001
manufacturing
in
oakland
county
has
declined.
17.4
percent
manufacturing
jobs
have
declined.
38
percent
1997
to
2016
foreign
foreign
sourcing
of
parts
for
domestic
car
manufacturing
rose
10
to
15
percent.
J
Pure
countries
meet
80
to
90
percent
of
their
domestic
demand.
In
the
us
we
only
meet
70
percent
since
1990
manufacturers
with
more
than
a
billion
in
assets.
So
we're
talking
about
the
large
manufacturers
we're
talking
about
the
large
manufacturers
that
exist,
for
instance
over
in
china,
and
they
have
experienced
growth
of
two
percent
annually.
Why
small
and
medium-sized
manufacturers,
the
ones
we're
talking
about
here
today,
have
posted
negative
growth.
These
trends,
which
were
mirrored
in
other
industries,
either
squeeze
smaller
suppliers
out
altogether
or
force
them
into
relentless
price
competition.
J
We
need
to
prepare
our
tier
2
and
tier
3
manufacturers
for
this
new
ev
industry.
There
are
going
to
be
less
parts
because
you're
not
going
to
have
a
combustible
engine
you're
going
to
have
a
battery
operated
car
that
is
not
going
to
fall
on
the
major
companies,
stalantis
ford
or
gm.
That's
going
to
follow
on
the
tier,
twos
and
tier
threes.
This
program
helps
them
to
devise,
diversify
their
portfolio
and
prepare
for
for
that
industry
to
come.
We
also
believe
that
it
helps
create
a
competitive
edge.
J
We've
been
losing
out,
we've
been
losing
out
to
tennessee
and
kentucky,
and
we
need
to
create
a
competitive
advantage
here
in
michigan
in
southeast
michigan
and
in
particular
oakland
county.
We
believe
that
program
can
help
turn
some
things
around
or
at
least
give
us
an
opportunity
to
turn
some
things
around.
In
conclusion,
the
adoption
of
3d
printing
will
attract
investment,
create
robust
new
markets,
ensure
leadership
and
prosperity,
public
and
private
sector
resolve
to
shore
up
manufacturing
sector.
That
has
long
been
an
important
pillar
of
this
economy.
J
Phase
two
combined
with
technology
and
market
opportunities,
offer
a
rare
chance
to
change
the
existing
downward
trajectory.
We
also
believe
that
direct
and
indirect
effects
could
boost
oakland
county
manufacturing
gdp
from
13
billion
to
21.7
billion
dollars.
Oakland
county
has
an
opportunity
to
help
our
companies
with
economic
recovery,
inclusive
growth,
resilience
and
capabilities
of
the
future.
J
H
So
just
a
quick
question:
I
have
seen
that
that
slide
that
say
the
regional
areas
where
y'all
be
placing
these
printers
like
what
are
where,
where
is
that?
Is
it
a
universal
location
that
all
these
manufacturers
will
be
able
to
use?
Let
me
say
this:
I'm
very,
very
baby
steps
in
understanding
the
manufacturing
world,
so
I
may
be
asking
you
something
it
may
not
even
sound
right,
but
for
the
most
part
I
just
wanted
to
know,
will
they
be
like
these
printers?
H
E
M
M
Yeah
yeah,
I'm
happy
to
answer
the
question,
so
the
250
printers
that
were
distributed,
they
were
they
were
distributed
to
the
small
manufacturers
right
on
site,
and
then
we
used
their
employees
to
train
them
on
how
to
use
the
printer
and
from
there
that's
the
transformation
that
that
you
see.
Is
that
we're
we're
using
the
hardware
which
is
new
and
different
to
create
a
teachable
moment
for
their
employees
that
are
actually
on
site
and
give
them
skills
that
can
help
that
business
but
are
also
transferable
to
any
other
business.
H
M
M
Like
it's
a
difficult
question
to
answer,
because
3d
printing
is
making
everything
these
days,
so
you
can
3d
print
food,
you
can
3d
print
rockets,
you
can
3d
print
components.
Gm
just
announced
their
new
celestique.
That's
going
to
have
a
hundred
3d
printed
components
in
it.
We
assume
that
all
auto
is
going
to
be
somehow
sourced
to
our
local
suppliers
that
do
subtractive
manufacturing.
M
This
is
direct
evidence
that
that
is
indeed
not
the
case
that
they're
starting
the
transition
to
3d
printing
they're
building
it
out
of
the
warren
tech
center
and
then
they're
going
to
source
this
to
suppliers
that
have
those
capabilities.
We
need
to
have
our
supply
base
because
gm
will
not
care,
and,
and
rightly
so,
they
have
a
fiduciary
duty
to
their
stakeholders
they're
going
to
source
wherever
someone
knows
how
to
make
those
3d
printed
components.
M
M
That
had
never
been
made
before
that
kept,
that
line
running
and
and
there's
example
after
example
after
example.
That's
just
two,
but
this
is
where
the
world
is
going
and
they
were
allowed
to
ship.
Those
60
000
vehicles,
which
you
know
in
this
environment
is
critical.
They
need
to
get
those
cars
out.
M
H
C
J
D
C
Okay
got
it
so
then,
moving
from
like
the
paperwork
part
to
thinking
about,
like
philosophically
I
mean
is
when
rafino
came
earlier,
the
small
business
owner
that
we
were
talking
to
right.
He
said
he
wouldn't
have
bought
one
of
these
on
his
own.
He
didn't
have
to
offer
a
match.
We
just
talked
about
the
senior
initiatives
program
that
has
a
matching
component
to
it.
C
So
thinking
more
broadly
about
the
philosophy
of
what
we
want
to
spend
our
arpa
money
on,
which
is
limited,
in
which
we
also,
I
thought
we're
on
a
pause
from
the
executive
office
to
like
recollect
and
figure
out
what
we
want
to
do.
So
I'm
wondering
why
now
doing
this,
why
not
do
it
in
a
month
once
the
pause
has
been
sorted
and
you
all
have
sorted
out
how
you
want
to
spend
the
remaining
arpa
funds
and
have
this
be
part
of
a
broader
plan,
because
I'm
unaware
of
what
your
plan
is.
C
I
mean
for
this
yes,
but
broadly
speaking,
about
what
to
do
with
the
remainder
of
the
arpa.
So
why
now
and
then
part
two
is:
if
businesses
aren't
willing
to
adapt
or
able
to
innovate,
isn't
the
thing
that
then
we
have
other
businesses
sprout
up
that
are
willing
to
do
that
and,
as
you
all
said
earlier
in
the
previous
committee,
sometimes
we
have
to
hope
and
think
that
they
will
invest
in
these
things
if
we
do
it
for
them.
J
Okay,
so
there
was
three
or
four
questions
in
there.
What,
before
I
start
answering,
I
just
do.
Are
there
any
other
questions,
because
I
yeah
so
I'd
rather
just
get
all
these
done
right
now.
So,
first
of
all,
I
want
to
make
sure
I
think
that
you
are
mispraising
the
earlier
small
business
who
was
there
he
did.
J
He
did
make
those
comments,
but
you're
not
fairly
also
saying
that
he
was
one
of
those
individuals
yeah
that
that
once
he
saw
the
value
that
the
value
that
it's
bringing
to
his
company-
and
you
know,
collaboration
collaboration-
doesn't
you
know
always
just
happen
with
people
coming
together
and
saying:
let's
collaborate,
there
has
to
be
a
willingness
to
sit
and
listen
and
understand,
and
in
phase
one
we
had
90
to
120
days
that
we
rolled
that
out.
So
we
needed
to
move.
J
We
knew
needed
to
move
quickly
and
there
were
some
people
that
were
a
little
bit
more
apprehensive,
but
they
still
took
the
3d
printers
and
I'll
leave
that
to
tom
and
impovent
to
answer
that
as
a
follow-up
as
well,
but
I
believe
with
an
informational
campaign,
our
companies
and
our
small
businesses
are
seeing
the
change
start
to
take
place.
So
I
think
that
there's
going
to
be
a
more
willingness
to
listen
and
understand
and
understand
that
here's
an
opportunity-
and
it
is
government's
role.
J
J
M
M
If
we
don't
stay
ahead
of
this
transition
and
teach
our
manufacturers
to
make
this
transition,
it
will
not
settle
that.
We
get
an
outsized
market
share
position,
austin
and
atlanta
and
the
south
which
we're
seeing
will
start
to
we'll
start
to
eat
our
lunch,
and
the
reason
why
we
think
you
know
ford
is
moving
to
tennessee
and
kentucky
is
because
they
don't
have
to
deal
with
this
cultural
baggage
of
helping
people
come
along.
They
just
build
it.
New.
M
Every
supplier
that
goes
around
blue
city
is
going
to
be
a
3d
printed,
digital
ready
supplier
because
there's
nobody
there.
Today
they
can
pick
and
choose
who
comes
in
there.
We
have
the
problem
of
saying,
because
we
made
so
much
wealth
in
the
in
the
second
industrial
revolution
and
the
third
we
have
to
now
go
to
these
manufacturers
say
we
need
to
teach
you
that
is
no
longer
a
viable
business
we
have
to.
M
We
have
to
help
you
by
granting
you
the
printer,
because
their
cfo
will
not
approve
that
purchase,
say
what
are
you
going
to
do
with
it?
Well,
I
don't
know
yet,
but
that
we
have
to
take
that
responsibility
as
economic
developers,
otherwise
we're
doing
a
terrible
disservice
to
our
community,
because
we're
going
to
continue
down
this
long,
slow
slide
to
mark
to
manufacturing
oblivion.
C
What
I
hear
you
both
saying
and
what
your
powerpoint
talks
about
is
tennessee
kentucky
austin
texas,
the
south
are
ahead
of
us.
My
problem
with
this
especially
related
to
working
people
is
that
one
industry
4.0
uses
words
like
automation,
and
those
do
not
mean
helping
working
people.
That
means
you
don't
necessarily
have
to
be
as
important
a
component
in
this
as
you
used
to
be.
That
is
right.
Market
forces,
whatever
figure
that
out,
but
does
the
government
have
to
be
then
subsidizing
and
incentivizing
that
automation
and
then
part
two
is
tennessee
kentucky
florida,
georgia.
C
Those
are
all
states
that
have
been
right
to
work
longer
than
michigan,
which
is
why
we're
competing
with
kentucky
and
tennessee,
because
in
the
80s,
that's
where
all
the
f
factories
went.
That's
where
my
family
had
to
move
to
stay
at
the
plant
because
they
had
to
move
to
tennessee
to
keep
their
job
because
they
closed
them
here
to
what
we
were
talking
yesterday,
because
my
family
used
to
work
at
the
pontiac
plant
too,
and
they
had
to
move
to
tennessee.
C
So
this
is,
I
feel
you
just
delaying
the
inevitable
of
the
real
structural
problem
is
tennessee
will
hire
people
cheaper
and
they
can
get
away
with
it,
because
we
can't
do
that
here.
It
doesn't
matter
how
many
gadgets
or
printers
you
give
businesses
with
power
access
to
capital
loans
and
grants
that
don't
have
to
be
government
funded
it.
It
just
feels
like
good
money
after
bad.
J
Yeah
I
mean
I
understand
that
that's
your
position.
I
couldn't
disagree
with
it
more,
but
what
I
will
say
is
I
don't
want
us
to
lose
this
argument.
Small
businesses,
the
ones
that
we're
talking
about
they
are
the
workers,
they're
working
they're,
working,
they're,
working
they're
working
side
by
side
with
their
floor.
This.
J
A
C
Just
to
say,
drive
down
hilton
road
in
ferndale
and
you'll,
see
where
all
the
small
manufacturers
have
been
sold
by
the
owners
that
have
been
able
to
get
a
better
deal
and
then
the
plant
closes
and
people
lose
their
pensions
and
their
retirement
and
all
that
sort
of
stuff.
That's
all
my
neighbors,
that's
all
the
stuff.
Okay,
I'm
telling
you
and
we've
all
lived
it.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
commissioner.
Anybody
else
I'm
gonna
speak
to
this
a
little
bit.
I
did
an
economic
development
too,
and
commissioner
cavell
knows
that
I
disagree
vehemently
with
him
on
this
and
most
of
the
time
we
agree
on
issues,
but
I
come
out
of.
I
come
out
of
the
manufacturing
world.
I
am
a
process
engineer
from
the
get-go
right
and
I
do
understand
what
you're
talking
about
in
terms
of
obsolescence.
What
some
of
you
didn't
hear
was
the
manufacturer
who
was
here
this
morning.
A
A
Yeah
on
his
production
line,
they
had
something
fail
and
they
had
they
needed
a
replacement
part,
and
rather
than
go
to.
You
know
somebody
somewhere
else
and
order
a
part
and
all
of
the
whatever
they
took
their
3d
printer
and
they
made
the
part
that
they
needed
and
they
put
their
their
line
back
in
operation,
and
I
can
tell
you
that
can
be
anywhere
from
saving
a
week
to
saving
four
months.
A
I
I
have
watched
federal
money,
state
money,
city
money,
go
to
tax
abatements,
all
over
the
state
of
michigan,
where
we
bring
in
a
company
and
they're
going
to
make
a
they're
going
to
put
a
plant
in
and
out
where
I
live.
They
take
out
green
infrastructure
green
space
to
do
it
and
then
two
three,
four
years
later,
after
no
claw
backs
those
companies
are
gone
right
and
they're
not
supporting
the
workers.
A
It
was
all
a
money
grab.
In
my
view,
I've
been
watching
this
20
years
as
a
member
of
local
governments
in
different
ways.
What
this
does
is
it
puts
a
real
tool
in
the
hands
of
hundreds
of
manufacturers
to
really
take
us
into
the
new
world.
Those
states,
it's
not
only
that
their
workers
are
cheaper.
It
is
that
they
have
open
space.
A
It's
always
cheaper
to
build
a
factory
where
there's
nothing
there
before
than
it
is
to
try
to
redevelop
and
we're
talking
about
retaining
the
companies
that
are
here
that
have
decided
they
want
to
be
here.
They've
got
workers
who
live
here
they're.
You
know
coaching
the
softball
teams
and
all
those
things
that
you
do
when
you
are
part
of
a
community.
So
I
I
really
support
this
because
number
one.
It
focuses
on
small
businesses
in
real
ways
that
I
don't
think
we
have
in
the
past.
Let's
try
this.
I
mean.
A
We've
tried
lots
of
other
ways
to
retain
workers
and
to
ret
to
you
know,
drive
manufacturing.
Let's
give
this
a
shot.
I
think
we
did
in
the
pilot
program
and
saw
that
it
was
working,
and
this
is
a
growth
of
that.
So
I'm
talking
a
lot,
but
that's
to
say
I
I
believe,
there's
a
real,
solid
reason
to
to
try
and
move
forward
with
this.
So
that's
my
opinion,
commissioner.
Mcgilvery
a
couple.
J
M
Commissioner,
it's
it's.
When
you
get
into
those
large
populations
like
250,
you
get
a
real
bell
curve,
so
we
have
20.
It
really
falls
kind
of
in
this
line.
It's
not
exactly
this,
but
20
are
using
the
printer
every
single
day
for
production
and
they're,
making
money
selling
those
parts
they're
actually
making
right.
M
Sixty
percent
of
those
are
probably
printing
a
couple
times
a
week
and
it's
probably
to
print
mro
parts.
A
machine
has
gone
down
and
they
make
their
own
part
to
keep
their
line
going.
The
ruffino
valentine
this
morning
said
you
know
he
used
to
wait
eight
weeks
to
get
apart
from
italy.
He
now
prints
it
overnight.
The
part
cost
hundreds
of
dollars.
Now
it
costs
twelve
dollars.
Think
about
what
that
does.
M
It's
called
a
claw
back,
but
it's
not
punitive.
We're
like
great
give
it
back
and
we'll
give
it
to
another
manufacturer
that
needs
it.
So
it's
economic
development
that
actually
it's
not
cash,
that
goes
that
business
has
gone
forever.
It's
use
that
productively
or
we'll
be
able
to
take
it
back
and
go
give
it
to
somebody
who
will
use
it
productively.
M
D
C
Just
to
just
say
real,
quick,
so
question
of
I
mean:
is
there
one
the
timeline
right?
Why
not
wait
till
the
pause
is
over
at
the
executive
office
and
come
back
in
a
month
with
this
and
the
other
85
or
100
million
dollars
planned
out
for
what
we
want
to
do
with
arpa,
because
what
I
worry
about
is
we're
going
to
have
competing
priorities
and
in
october
2024
we're
all
going
to
go
crap.
C
C
J
You
know
in
regards
to
the
pause:
there
was
two
programs
by
the
administration
that
were
in
the
pipeline.
One
was
the
the
senior
center
and
I
believe
you
you
took
that
on
a
previous
agenda
item
and-
and
this
was
the
second
one,
so
the
pause
does
is
not
applicable
from
from
that
perspective,
and-
and
I
think
we
talked
about
that-
we
built
the
program
that
we
believe
that
will
work
best
and
that's
what's
presented
to
you
in
the
resolution.
K
The
last
word
yeah
I
mean
so
I
mean
I
want
to
speak
to
the
pause
that
ultimately,
the
pause
will
be
decided
by
this
body
in
concert
with
the
executive.
I
think
there's
a
recognition
that
we
have
a
lot
of
things
in
motion
and
we've
got
to
get.
I
mean
further
along
the
implementation
to
see.
Are
they
going
to
consume
the
resources
that
we've
appropriated
to
be
able
to
do
that?
So
I
I
don't
think
that
should
be.
I
mean
an
excuse.
K
This
is
one
of
the
most
rope
this
this
program
phase
one
and
phase
two
builds
a
network
of
the
the
small
mom-and-pop
shop
operator
being
able
to
compete
on
the
the
stage
with
a
big
operation
that
where
multiple
shops
can
actually
get
in
the
action
that
maybe
today,
that
a
a
juggernaut
manufacturer
is
the
only
one
that
can
compete
if
we
want
to
build
a
resilient
manufacturing
base
in
this
county.
This
is
absolutely
key.
K
K
The
department
of
the
us
department
of
commerce
has
recognized
it.
I
think
that
the
opportunity,
the
potential
of
economic
opportunity
to
not
only
support
these-
I
mean
our
existing
manufacturers,
but
to
help
them
grow
to
retain
and
create
new
jobs
is,
is
real
and
we've
got.
I
mean
we
have
data
from
phase
one,
and
this
I
mean
really,
I
mean,
pushes
the
pedal
to
the
metal
to
take
it
to
the
next
phase,
and
so
I
100
support
it.
A
A
L
L
Just
a
little
quick
history,
oakland
county
has
been
under
a
choice,
purchasing
program
for
our
electricity,
as
well
as
our
natural
gas
here
for
our
energy
consumption
on
campus,
and
once
I
started
on
at
oakland
county,
I
met
with
the
facilities
team
and
talked
to
them
about
renewable
energy
options
and
other
opportunities
for
integrating
more.
You
know
better
solutions
for
our
energy
efficiency
and
so
forth,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we've
worked
with
our
executive
energy
consultants
that
help
us
with
this
purchasing
program
to
get
the
best
competitive
market
rate.
L
L
L
N
You
know,
I
think
you
headed
out
of
the
park
just
at
the
rate
that
we're
the
pro
excuse
me,
the
it's
been
a
long
day.
The
rates
that
we're
seeing
come
in
basically
you're
going
to
beat
the
the
utility
tariff
rate,
and
I
don't
know
if
anybody's
watched
the
news
yesterday
we're
we're
seeing
that
the
the
rates
are
expected
to
go
up.
This
is
going
to
give
us
a
price.
D
F
N
So
may
of
2026
is
when
the
contract
expires,
but
once
we
get
full
board
approval
to
move
forward,
and
then
the
resolution
mentions
that
there
is
we
do
not.
We
won't
exceed
article
17
of
the
utility
book,
so
we're
making
sure
that
the
prices
still
beat
the
utilities
and
we'd
move
forward,
securing
that
price
and
then
entering
that
contract.
At
that
time,.
N
N
I
I
I
K
N
K
N
K
N
I
F
A
A
All
right
now
that
chuck's
here
we're
back
in
order.
So
all
right
next
up
on
our
agenda,
is
item
12
fiscal
year
2023
to
25
oakland
county
budget
item.
A
is
an
update
from
it
regarding
regarding
the
court
technology
needs,
and
I'm
just
going
to
say.
I
believe
this
is
an
response
to
the
fact
we
heard
through
several
of
our
budget
hearings
that
there
were
technology
issues
that
folks
wanted
to
address.
So
mr
tim
and
mr
jenn
are
here
today
to
help
us
with
that.
So
I
need
a
motion
receive.
A
O
O
So
we
just
want
to
make
sure
you
have
a
full
picture
of
things
that
are
that
are
already
in
process
and
then
kind
of
give
you
a
preview
of
coming
attractions
in
terms
of
some
projects
that
can
be
accelerated.
So
I
just
want
to
start
with.
You
know
there
were.
There
were
comments
regarding
you
know
the
the
increased
need
for
laptop
computers
and
high
level
numbers
over
the
last
two
years.
Using
cares,
act
and
arpa
dollars.
O
Mike's
department
has
distributed
almost
1200
laptops
or
other
computers.
That
departments
have
asked,
for
you
know
as
a
way
to
accelerate
the
the
replacement
of
those
computers
and
getting
people
the
tools
they've
needed
out
of
that
1200
total
almost
300
have
gone
to
the
courts
between
district
circuit,
probate
and
in
front
of
the
court,
and
actually
157
have
gone
to
the
prosecutor's
office,
and
you
know
I'm
not
sure
that
spreadsheet
made
it.
G
That
is
a
is
almost
a
flip
from
we
were
closer
to
90
percent
standard
desktop
workstations.
Before
covet,
we
had
almost
no
remote
work
going
on
and
almost
nobody
use
laptops
if,
if
they
don't
leave
their
desks,
they
don't
need
a
laptop
and
that's
how
we
used
to
work.
So
so
this
isn't
just
about
laptops
for
karen
kovet,
but
we
have
also
you
know,
because
technology
is
changing
and
workplaces
change,
work,
habits,
change.
G
You
know
the
implementation
of
wi-fi
in
the
county
campus
that
is
nearly
complete
throughout
the
county
campus,
as
part
of
you
know,
a
multi-year
project
that
ucc
project
that
I
have
talked
about
several
times
with
our
core
infrastructure
and
and
the
wi-fi
as
part
of
that.
That
project
has
allowed
for
me,
for
example,
to
walk
around
in
different
meetings
that
I
go
to
with
my
laptop,
and
I
can
connect
to
the
network.
G
You
know
right
as
I
as
I
move
locations
right,
more
and
more
people
have
that
ability
and
capability
the
one
final
thing
about
pcs:
we
have
a
capital
plan
in
it
and
we
have
always
had
a
capital
plan
in
it
that
funds.
You
know
it's
the
planning
for
our
servers
and
big
projects,
many
of
which
we
bring
back
in
here,
some
of
which
are
part
of
the
budget.
G
In
our
capital
plan.
Every
year
we
replace
25
percent
of
our
desktop
and
laptop
compute.
So,
in
addition
to
the
numbers
that
kyle
shared,
we
are
also
spending
half
a
million
dollars
every
year
on
buying
new
laptops
and
replacing
the
oldest
ones.
So
our
machines
are
on
a
four
to
five
year
schedule
and
that's
by
design.
It's
it's
been
that
way
for
four
years.
That's
just
part
of
good
it
planning,
so
that's
also
additional
equipment
that
has
been
installed
by
our
team,
and
I
would
I
would
also
just
while
I
have
the
mic.
G
I
will
say
thank
you
to
our
workstation
team,
who
is
just
bending
over
backwards
to
provide
this
support.
It
is
a
herculean
effort
to
distribute
all
these
laptops
and
get
them
up
and
running
and
connected
in
the
software,
and
that
team
has
done
an
outstanding
job
as
well.
As
you
know,
thousands
of
devices
coming
in
that
need
to
be
inventoried
and
and
the
asset
management
process,
so
it
has
been
a
herculean
effort
and
all
the
departments,
I
think,
have
benefited
from
that.
All
the
departments
have
also
worked
very
well
with
us
in
that
regard.
H
Commissioner
powell,
so
just
for
clarity,
because
you
know
he
was
interested
in
our
budget
meetings.
I
see
all
these
wonderful
numbers
and
a
lot
of
the
concerns,
and
I
know
it
may
not
be
everything,
but
this
is
at
least
contributing
to
some
of
the
things
or
you
could
tell
me
if
it
was
everything
that
they
were
inquiring,
because
I
know
mr
timms,
you
heard
about
all
the
departments
and
what
they
were
requiring
and
a
lot
of
it
was
a
part
of
the
technological
goal
or
their
processing,
their
scanning
and
printing.
H
G
So
so
laptops
are
just
part
of
it:
the
the
issues
that
were
brought
up
in
probate
court,
as
well
as
district
court
about
some
of
their
document
management.
Those
are
actually
state
systems
that
that
the
state,
the
state
dtmb
the
state
courts
and-
and
we
will
continue
to
work
with
our
courts
and
work
to
support
them
in
that
regard
as
well,
but
those
are
a
little
bit
outside
of
oakland
county.
It's
control.
G
That
said,
we
have
in
in
our
master
planning
process
that
I've
I've
described
a
few
times
and
and
we
bring
those
invoices
in
every
quarter
right
to
get
paid
for
the
work
we
do
in
our
master
plan.
Those
are
projects
that
we
do
for
the
departments
and
and
the
way
that
process
works.
Is
the
courts
all
get
together
and
prioritize
all
of
the
court
projects,
all
of
the
departments,
fiscal
services,
hr,
corp,
council,
several
court
projects,
the
prosecutor's
office,
indigent
defense,
the
new
neighborhood
and
housing
department,
the
treasurer's
office,
the
clerk's
office
risk
management.
G
So
there
are
12
new
projects
related
to
laserfiche
our
document
management
platform
that
all
of
these
departments
have
requested
in
the
it
master
planning
process
just
in
the
last
couple
months.
So
so
yes,
there
is
there's
a
lot
of
demand
for
that
technology.
There's
a
lot
of
efficiency
that
we
can
gain
implementing
that
technology.
G
We
just
met
with
the
fiscal
oversight
review
team.
Did
I
get
that
acronym
right
at
the
county
executive's
office
and
we
got
the
approval
to
consolidate
those
plans.
We
brought
some
additional
funding
from
projects
that
had
not
been
completed
that
we're
going
to
reallocate
to
speed
these
projects
up.
So
essentially
we
will
bring.
You
know
it's
a
separate,
funded
package
of
of
dollars
that
were
actually
in
the
22
budget,
as
well
as
a
small
amount
of
arp
dollars
that
will
speed
those
projects
up.
We
will
go,
get
additional
contract
labor.
G
H
H
So
what
my
question
was
going
to
be,
but
I
know
both
of
y'all
wasn't
here
before
then
I
really
was
just
going
to
call
the
question
and
understand
what
was
the
delay
because
it
seems
like
for
oakland
county
to
be
who
we
are
that's
a
huge
delay,
because
it's
a
lot
that
then
fell
on
since
I
even
been
here.
It's
a
lot
that
then
fell
on
us
and
I
just
think
past
leadership
should
have
been
a
little
more
because
that's
the
image
we
portray.
So
I
just
want
to
put
that
out
there.
Thank
you.
I
G
I
O
Sure
so,
there's
there's
a
couple
things
going
on
here.
One
is
the
projects
mike
just
talked
about
in
terms
of
being
you
know,
these
were
projects
that
were
in
the
planning
process
for
the
upcoming
two
years.
We're
planning
to
bring
to
you.
You
know
a
resolution
next
month,
but
wanted
to
give
you
the
heads
up
now
that
would
allocate
2.6
million
dollars
in
funds
that
are
remaining
in
the
fy
22
budget
that
can
be
repurposed
as
well
as
well
as
450
000
of
arp,
which
will
allow
for
the
12
projects.
O
I
G
I
D
G
So
we
do
still
have
some
situations
where
people
need
when
they're
working
from
home.
They
still
need
a
computer
on
the
county
network,
so
they're
still
using
that
computer
they're,
actually
using
two
devices
there
are
still
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
500
situations
where
that
occurred.
That's
just
the
networking
connection
for
them
to
get
access
to
the
county
network.
G
D
G
From
from
an
I.t
perspective,
we're
we're
designing,
basically
we're
designing
the
network,
the
infrastructure,
to
allow
the
flexibility
for
wherever
the
departments
and
hr
and
and
wherever
the
county
needs
people
to
be.
I
mean
our
job
is
to
provide
the
infrastructure
for
them
to
be
there
so
to
support
remote
work
or
to
support
on-premise
work
or
optimally.
Both.
K
K
When
do
we
envision
that
they
would
be
done
like
the
digitization,
and
I
asked
us
questions
trying
to
get
a
sense
digitization.
I
think
I
mean
it's
been
brought
up
in
some
of
the
district
court
with
an
ability
to
input
data.
So
there's
not
a
piece
of
paper.
That's
literally
going
around
we'll
take
the
pressure
off
need
for
additional
staff
that
they
don't
currently
have
improve
efficiencies,
improve
productivity
and
allow
us
to
better
operate
within
the
constraints
of
the
budget
that
we
have.
K
I
mean
that's
in
place
right
now,
so
I
don't
know
is
there
I
mean
these
are
a
lot
of
projects,
so
are
they
all
gonna
I
mean?
Is
it
six
months
nine
months,
twelve
months?
Is
there
prioritization
if
there's
ones
that
can
take
the
pressure
off
of
additional
staff
needs
sooner
rather
than
later
I
mean?
Is
there?
How
do
we
bring
them
to
the
front
of
the
pack
so
that
we
can
improve
those
efficiencies
and
not
be
as
pressure
cooked
on
trying
to
deliver
services
to
the
public.
G
So
we
don't
have
timing
yet
these
are.
These
are
all
brand
new
requests
that
have
just
come
in
in
the
last
couple
months,
so
they
have
not
been
estimated
for
project
management
and
timing.
We
have
not
assigned
resources
to
them,
but
to
your
other
question:
yes,
the
departments
all
prioritize
them
and
then
part
of
the
the
master
planning
process
is
the
departments
all
get
together
and
determine
the
priority
between
the
projects?
G
So
not
only
do
we
know
this
is
the
number
one
project
for
the
circuit
court.
This
is
the
number
one
project
for
all
of
the
courts,
so
they
all
got
together
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
agreed.
There's
there's
some
healthy
debate
about
whether
this
circuit
court
project
is
more
important
than
this
probate,
project
etc.
Right,
but
that
debate
has
all
occurred
for
all
of
these
projects
and,
yes,
they
all
are
ranked.
K
Right
and
I
agree,
and
I
and
I
appreciate
a
prioritization
process-
I
also
realized
that
I
mean
department's
prioritization
process.
I
am
very
zoned
in
things
that
take
the
pressure
off
the
need
to
add
additional
staff
capacity
from
a
policy
perspective
like
pushing
that
up
now.
You
know
by
all
means
that
maybe
that's
what
actually
did
happen
like,
maybe
that's
that
would
lent
led
to
whatever
the
prioritization
that
just
will
lift
up
the
courts
right
now,
if
that's
in
fact
the
case
great.
K
If
that
wasn't
the
case,
we
need
to
know,
because
I
mean
what
I
heard
and
observing
some
of
the
budget
hearings
is
that
their
staff
needs
stephanie's,
deaf
need
and
we
don't
have
the
budget
for
it.
So
if
we
can
invest
in
some
technology,
digitize
things
I
mean
take
some
of
the
workload
off
so
that
we
can
better
function
within
our
current
staff
capacity
from
a
policy
perspective,
I
guess
I'm
going
to
invite
the
board
to
put
its
finger
on.
K
G
K
K
So
it's
like
I
re
getting
it
right
is
most
important,
but
I
need
an
answer
to
that
question
quickly
and
I
realize
that
there's
a
lot
that
goes
into
it,
but
we
have,
I
mean
I
need
to
be
able
to
deliver
that
answer,
so
they
stopped
calling
me
and
me
well,
I
think,
for
us
all
to
know
I
mean
I
realize
that
we're
going
to
need
outside
consultants
to
help
do
this.
We've
got
limited
staff
capacity.
What
we
can
do
internally,
bringing
on
what
microfiche
consultant
laser
phones,
laser
features,
laser
speech.
K
I
K
K
I
I
think
you
hear
what
I
mean
what
we're
saying.
I
think
I
speak
for
a
number
of
commissioners
like
getting
that
information
is
going
to
be
really
key,
but
it'll
be
the
fact
that
these
are
enumerated.
We
got
a
cost
estimate
attached
to
them.
We
know
the
kind
of
arms
that
we're
going
to
go
to
implement
it.
I
mean,
I
think,
we're
on
the
path
to
make
measured
jumps.
A
A
You
know
the
hearings
showed
that
this
is
across
the
county,
one
of
the
most
frustrating
things
that
most
of
the
departments
are
dealing
with
and
it
is
slowing
us
down
and
it
is
costing
us.
You
know
people.
So
I
don't
want
a
plan
that
says
oh
in
18
months,
this
will
all
be
fixed.
That's
not
good
enough!
For
me,
it's
got
to
be.
A
This
is
number
one
and
it's
going
to
be
done
by
thanksgiving,
and
this
is
number
two
and
it's
going
to
be
done
by
christmas
kind
of
thing,
or
it's
just
going
to
be
a
lot
of
talk.
If,
if
we
don't
see
something
more
aggressive
than
what
we've
been
dealing
with
up
till
now,
I
really
appreciate
that
you've
called
out
what
you
consider
to
be
the
top
12
projects
to
address.
These
are.
A
Right
that
are
there
to
address
this
particular
problem
correct,
so
I
appreciate
that
you
at
least
know
what
they
are
and
how
much
they're
going
to
cost
us
now,
let's
execute
in
a
faster
plan
than
I
think.
Maybe
we
had
in
place
before
this.
So
thank
you
is
there
anybody
else
on
this
particular
item
that
wants
to
jump
on.
A
K
In
michigan
third,
in
michigan
I
mean
this
is
I
mean
we
need
to
make
these
investments
and
decisions
of
a
past
administration
we're
different,
and
now
I
mean
we're
in
a
position
to
move
move
fast
and
hard,
and
I
think
you're
hearing
that
there's
a
lot
of
support
what's
necessary
to
kind
of
make
measured
progress
in
this
and
catch
us
up
is
important.
So
I
just
want
to.
I
think
it's
important
to
lay
that
out
that
this
wasn't
just
sitting
around
like.
D
K
O
I
mean,
if
I
can
just
add
to
that,
I
mean
at
the
end
of
the
day.
This
is
about
resources
and
resource
allocation,
so
you
know
I
commend
mike
and
his
team
for
identifying.
You
know
a
way
to
to
to
to
take
these
resources
that
had
already
been
been
been
allocated
and
accelerate
these
projects
and
we're
certainly
open
and
willing
to
continue
that
conversation
in
terms
of
you
know
what
those
resources
needed
are
and
how
we
afford
them.
A
D
A
H
A
C
Can
I
just
make
a
quick
comment,
because
I
have
to
go
to
a
work
meeting
all
right
just
want
to
tell
everyone.
I
have
to
go
to
a
work
meeting
at
3
30,
so
I'm
going
to
leave,
but
I'd
love
to
hear
from
anyone
or
kyle
about
the
dei
500k
to
make
sure
that
it
got
switched
over.
Like
was
mentioned
a
lot.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Yeah
yeah
someone's
got
it.
O
I
can
speak
briefly
to
it
if
that's
helpful
yeah,
so
so
sk,
the
the
amendments
on
schedule,
a
are
all
amendments
to
adjust
the
adjust
the
budget
to
reflect
resolutions
that
have
been
adopted
by
the
board
since
the
budget
recommendation
was
released.
So
this
is
just
chewing
up
the
budget
to
make
sure
those
those
adjustments
are
reflected.
I
think,
historically,
the
committee
has
adopted
the
schedule.
You
know
as
a
batch
with
one
vote.
K
A
Okay
motion
carries
next
step.
We
have
section
b
human
resource
recommended
amendments
motion
to
amend.
I
need
a
motion
to
amend
the
budget
by
approving
the
amendments
listed
in
section
b.
Human
resources
recommended
amendments
as
presented
moved
by
commissioner
long
supported
by
commissioner
gershenson.
A
H
D
A
A
A
A
J
B
O
I
O
Go
ahead
as
an
overview,
you
know
the
amendments
one
through
15
listed
on
schedule
c
are
technical
in
nature.
So
I
think
those
could
all
be.
You
know
voted
on
as
a
block
amendment
16,
17,
18
and
19
are
more
discretionary
adjustments
that
you'll
probably
want
to
vote
on
individually
in
section
16
or
excuse
me.
O
So
section
so
so
item
18
in
the
current
fy
22
budget.
You
know
there
is
350
000
in
the
board's
base
ongoing
budget
for
special
projects,
and
then
there
was
also
a
one-time
appropriation
of
a
million
dollars
included
in
non-departmental
right.
So
as
we
go
into
fy
23
that
350
000
is
still
there
and
then
in
discussions
you
know
with
with
chair
markham,
there
was
agreement
that
we
would
add
650
000
back
into
non-departmental
for
another
year
and
that
would
provide
a
million
dollars
total
for
special
projects
and
fy23.
A
F
H
A
O
So
I'll
just
we
talked
about
16
17,
I
think
probably
the
chair
can
speak
to
in
terms
of
adjusting
a
small
line
item
for
the
historical
commission.
I
can,
I
can
speak
to
them
and
then
19
is
the
item
that
I
just
mentioned
a
few
minutes
ago
in
terms
of
adding
two
million
dollars
in
arp
for
for
for
addressing
continued
remote
meetings
and
work
and
proceedings
across
the
county.
A
Okay,
so
the
the
historical
commission-
it's
four
thousand
dollars
they
came
to
us.
They
want
to
do
a
poster
project
throughout
the
county,
tying
oakland
county
to
the
history
of
manufacturing
and
world
war
ii
and
all
of
those
kinds
of
things,
and
they
want
to
put
these
posters
in
libraries,
community,
centers
and
so
on.
They
would
do
all
the
work
they
just
they
have
a
very
small
budget.
They
asked
if
we
could
help
them
with
funding.
To
do
that.
O
O
O
A
O
A
O
Identified
I
mean
so
you
know,
item
16
is
just
moving
the
money
around
you
know
under
the
county
executive
office,
so
there's
no
net
impact
on
fund
balance.
We
just
talked
about
the
historical
commission.
The
650
you
can
see
there
for,
for
special
projects
does
rely
on
fund
balance
and
then
the
arp
item
is
relying
on
arp.
So
there's
no
impact
on
general
fund
fund
balance.
O
F
I
E
K
K
I
believe
the
democratic
republican
caucus
have
some.
I
mean
priorities
that
need
to
be
sorted
out.
I
think
it's
appropriate,
I
think
there's.
This
is
generally
enjoyed
bipartisan
support.
At
this
moment.
I
don't
know
if
commissioner
moss
is
going
to
withdraw
that
and
to
have
it
taken
up
as
the
floor
as
part
of
the
close-up
of
everything
that
would
be
my
recommendation.
E
Given
your
recommendation,
I
think
I
would
be
happy
to
accede
to
that
as
long
as
this
particular
this
particular
item,
which
has,
as
you
say,
had
long-term
bipartisan
support.
It
supports
all
our
districts
and
I'm
sure
it
will
give
its
appropriate
weight
in
the
mix,
at
least
for
me,
for
this
one.
Wonderful.
F
C
E
I
A
K
Would
make
the
same
thing
I
mean
like?
I
mean
again
along
the
same
lines
as
that
there
I
mean
some
other
issues
that
need
to
all
be
resolved,
and
if
I
mean
my
preference
that
we
do
this
all
as
part
of
a
final
package
under
the
budget.
So
if
the
sponsor
would
draw
the
amendment-
and
we
can
take
it
up,
commissioner.
I
B
B
B
It
that's
right
and
to
speak
to
this
amendment.
I
just
I
don't
know
how
these
people
manage
to
work
under
these
conditions,
and
it's
like
the
the
court
administrators
themselves,
where
there's
no
deputy,
it's
like
they
can't
step
away.
They
can't
take
any
time
off.
They
can't
be
sick,
otherwise,
there's
nobody
there
really
to
make
these
decisions,
and
then
they
fall
down
to
other
people,
especially
if
they're
hr
issues
that
are
not
specifically
trained
in
these
areas
and
then
then
problems
occur.
B
I
think
I
would
have
had
a
hard
time
not
walking
away
from
these
jobs
under
the
conditions
that
the
that
they're
under
now,
so
I
just
think
it
provides
a
better
working
conditions
for
the
people
in
these
courts.
It
it's
better
for
the
the
people
that
are
using
these
courts
and
I
think
it
quite
possibly
would
help
protect
us
against
some
losses
in
the
future,
perhaps
from
employees
that
didn't
get
their
issues
settled.
B
K
We
have
a
budget
before
us
and
and
this
committee's
done
an
incredible
job.
I
mean
going
department
by
department
for
the
first
time
in
my
memory
we
have
a
structurally
balanced
budget
and
where
revenues
coming
in
equal
dollars
going
out-
and
this
is
this-
takes
us
away
from
the
structural
balance
that
we
currently
have.
K
I
think
we
had
a
great
conversation
with
I.t.
I
mean
putting
some
of
those
efficiencies
in
place
that
may
hopefully,
sooner
or
later
I
mean
takes
the
pressure
off
of
some.
I
mean
some
of
these
things.
I
think
it's
appropriate
that
we
continue
to
look
at
these
things
or
look
at
a
long-term
way
to
figure
out
how
to
pay
for
this,
but
this
would
be
a
new
ongoing
cost
into
perpetuity.
F
Yeah,
I've
really
been
thinking
a
lot
about
that
last
presentation
from
the
52nd
and
I
am
on
record
as
being
a
supporter
of
the
52nd,
but
I
one
of
the
things.
I
also
fancy
myself
as
being
a
supporter
of
listening
to
many
sides
of
the
issue,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
other
facts
that
have
come
into
my
knowledge.
I've
been
told
about
their
presentation.
F
That
was
very
that
their
presentation
was
very
one-sided.
So
what
I've
also
learned
is
that
the
new
facility
everybody
keeps
talking
about
is
not
a
buildable.
It's
it's
not
a
reality.
It's
not
a
buildable,
it's
not
a
buildable
structure
and
we
were
left
with
that
and
we've
been
having
this
illusion
about
this
new
building
and
from
what
I
understand.
F
It's
not
a
it's,
not
real.
It's
not
really
going
to
happen
and
we're
stuck
with
this
piece
of
property.
Also,
I
I
have
district
courts.
I
think
there
are
so
many
district
courts
that
we
all
represent.
That
have
tremendous
needs.
I
mean
in
the
south
end.
Some
of
those
buildings
really
need
a
lot
of
attention.
F
I
I
know
we
have
a
greater
responsibility
to
the
50
seconds,
but
I
would
be
much
more
supportive
of
something
that
included
all
the
district
courts,
because
it's
it's
just
not
fair
to
all
the
other
district
courts
that
none
of
their
needs
are
being
addressed
because
they
don't
come
in
front
of
us.
We
don't
know
it,
but
I
have
talked
to
some
of
the
courts
that
aren't
in
the
52nd
and
they
have
a
lot
of
tremendous
needs.
F
F
B
Commissioner,
kowal
there's
always
a
lot
of
other
issues.
There
always
is
and
to
commissioner
woodward's
comments
about.
We
have
a
structurally
balanced
budget
when
we
went
through
these
budget
hearings.
If
we
don't
make
any
amendments
or
propose
amendments,
it
was
just
a
dog
and
pony
show
is
what
you're
saying
so
I
mean
when
we
listen
to
this
and
we
we
list
in
the
departments.
B
K
Okay,
so
one
this
amendment
is
not
structured
to
actually
amend
the
three-year
budget,
there's
no
funding
source
identified.
There
are
other
needs
that
are
available
in
the
I
mean
in
this
county,
and
this
is
not
the
appropriate
time
to
do
this
now.
If
the
district
court
wants
to
look
at
its
funding
streams
and
come
up
with,
I
mean
figure
out
how
to
pay
for
it
within
the
constructs
of
their
budget,
but
we're
talking
about
to
structurally
change
that
budget
and
then
disrupt
a
structurally
balanced
budget.
K
K
We've
done
something
that
this
county
has
never
been
able
to
do
to
see
that
the
dollars
coming
in
match
the
dollars
going
out
and
if
we're
going
to
hold
to
that,
then
we've
got
to
come
up
with
a
plan
to
figure
out
where
that
revenue
comes
from,
and
it's
and
and
this
amendment
doesn't
one
doesn't
do
that
and
the
fiscally
responsible
thing
is
to
do
that
and
so
to.
I
mean
to
hear
it
from
you.
K
E
I'd
just
like
to
point
out
that
the
judges
of
the
respective
courts
have
come
and
they've
said
that
they
have
had
long-term
problems
and
they
would
like
them
to
be
addressed,
and
I
guess,
like
some
other
things,
I
would
ignore
those
that
are
peril.
We
are
responsible,
the
other
district
courts
are
responsible
to
their
own
jurisdictions.
E
The
52nd
courts
are
are
ours
and
you
know,
if
not
now
is
not
the
time.
I
guess
okay,
then
when
and
how?
How
would
we
start
moving
forward
to
address
the
problems
that
have
been
brought
up,
not
simply
in
this
budget
cycle,
but
in
other
ones,
from
the
certainly
52nd?
I
remember
them
from
a
year
ago.
So,
let's
I
would
like
to
see
at
least
something
looked
at
rather
than
to
just
say.
Well,
this
budget
is
a
completed
document.
D
They
barely
have
an
administrator,
you
know,
so
I
I'm
not
convinced
that
yeah.
They
did
come
in
here
and
tell
us,
and
I
think
that
that
needs
to
be
looked
at
and
questioned
as
to
the
need
and
whoever,
even
if
that's
through
the
information
we
might
get
from
the
state
court,
but
just
to
appropriate
that
money
and
pull
up
from
nowhere,
I
mean
do
they
have
needs.
I
I
think
they
probably
do.
I
agree
the
same
thing
with
the
the
technology
aspect
of
it
and
the
fire
suppression
that
they
talked
about.
D
K
Okay,
I'm
always
willing
to
discuss
anything
with
any
colleague
without
I,
without
a
structural
way
to
pay
for
anything
and
this
position
I
mean
additional
positions
here.
Like
I
bring
this
board,
I
mean
ask
for
reclassification
positions
and
other
department
budgets
to
achieve
the
objectives
that
they
wanted.
K
Think
every
department
in
this
county
position
I
mean,
like
I
mean
like
we-
could
double
the
size
of
our
county
government,
but
I
don't
I
mean,
like
there's,
got
to
be
a
way
to
pay
for
this,
and
this
I
mean
I
get.
I
I
understand
that
it
was
brought
forward
and-
and
frankly
I
mean
a
little-
I
mean
a
little
there's
a
few
things-
that
there
are
funding
streams
that
help
pay
for
a
lot
of
positions.
K
O
K
And
I
mean
like
okay,
I
guess
I
speak
this.
I
mean
the
share
of
contract
that
we
have
the
sheriff
deputy
contract
we
approved
was
above
and
beyond
what
was
originally
estimated
would
be
to
get
it
to
a
level
that
better
meets
the
need
to
attract
people,
and
I
and
talking
to
some
of
our
colleagues
there's
going
to
be
increasing
pressure
to
our
existing
staff
to
raise
those
dollars.
Like
I
mean
that's
the
challenge
here.
A
So
I
I
just
want
to
say
that
the
other
is
the
idea
that
we
rent
this
building.
We
also
rent
the
one
in
novi.
I
found
that
out
today.
So
the
fact
that
we
rent
these
buildings
and
the
district
court
came
in
and
said
you
know
we
have
these
facilities,
issues
that
you
know
stuff
falling
on
our
heads.
The
bathrooms
are
over.
We
only
have
one
bathroom
and
it's
overflowing
and
do
we
have
a
plan
for
how
to
talk
to
the
landlord
right?
A
K
K
We
will
put
that
money
in
escrow
and
when
you
fix
it,
then
we
can
pay
you,
but
it's
I
mean
it's
like
just
I
mean,
as
you
manage
any
landlord.
So
there's
like
ways
to
do
that.
So
I
mean
that's,
definitely
something
from
a
facility
piece
that
we
can
work
on.
I
mean
this.
One
was
just
I
mean
it's
harder
and
complicated
like
we're.
Gonna
create
new
positions,
you
gotta
have
a
way
to
pay
for
it
and
we
don't
we
don't.
For
this.
I
mean
this
amendment.
We
don't
have
that
yet.
H
A
A
D
D
A
H
H
Okay,
I
don't
know
if
y'all
are
seeing
this
but
the
children's
village,
and
if
you
was
just
letting
us
know,
but
you're
gonna
come
back.
We
can
talk
about
it
later,
but
the
children's
village,
when
you
threw
the
example
out
of
the
25
000
per
year.
Even
if
we
move
to
help
with
this,
will
there
be
an
income
requirement
for
the
housing
or
I
mean
for
the
parents
to
qualify?
I
guess
to
get
their
funds
waived.
O
A
This
one
all
right,
so
the
last
thing
we
have
to
do
is
item
12c,
authorized
public
notice
and
public
hearing
for
the
september
29th
2022
at
9,
45
wow,
commissioner
mcgilvray
morning
meeting
moved
by
commissioner
mcgilrey,
supported
by
commissioner
long
okay
september
20
yep
good
morning.
Any
comments
it
is.
It
is
a
morning
meeting
that
day,
so
we.
K
I
mean
just
on
the
budget
before
I
mean
commissioner
powell
asked
her
question,
be
working
with
the
leadership
of
the
democratic
caucus
and
the
republican
caucus.
To
get
this
nicely,
I
mean
any
additional
changes.
Hopefully
we
can
strike
a
big
grand
bargain
and
move
forward
together.
So
I
mean
I'll
be
working
through
the
republican
leadership
caucus
in
our
caucus.
It
will
be
a
subject
of
conversation.
B
Yeah,
in
addition
to
that,
I
believe
we've
got
two
feasibility
studies
going
on
right
now.
One
is
for
the
52
to
and
it
doesn't
have
to
be
a
new
courthouse.
It
can
be,
you
know,
but
they're
trying
to
do
feasibility
study
and
as
well
as
the
dispatch
emergency
operation
training
center-
that
I
believe,
there's
and
I
would
like
to
see
those
before
we
get
to
the
end
of
september.
K
O
F
E
O
K
K
F
O
Right
that
was
a
you
know.
There
was
a
there
was
an
email
that
went
out.
I
think
yesterday
for
those
who
haven't
seen
it
yet
we
wanted
to
alert
you
in
terms
of
a
direction
we're
heading
in
terms
of
policy,
because
we,
let's
we
let
the
employees
who
will
be
affected
by
this
in
in
the
fiscal
services
reimbursement
unit,
know
that
we're
heading
in
this
direction.
There's
a
high
level.
A
Somebody
to
make
a
note
to
get
to
all
of
the
commissioners
that'd
be
good.
Okay,
at
this
time,
I'll
open
up
public
comment.
If
there's
anybody
who
wants
to
from
the
public
who
wants
to
address
this
board,
please
say
so
now,
since
no
one
is
here,
I
will
call
public
comment
closed
if
there's
no
other
business
to
come
before
the
group,
I
just
want
to
say
how
grateful
I
am
to
all
the
members
of
this
commission
and
the
staff
that
has
supported
us
for
all
of
the
work
that
everybody
has
done.