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D
Right
here,
powell
is
not.
E
Here
yet
charles.
B
B
B
B
So
we
will
move
into
our
budget
hearings
we're
starting
today
with
item
4a,
the
district
court.
So
if
you
folks
would
all
introduce
yourselves
and
walk
us
through
your
presentation
and
then
we'll
have
questions,
I'm
sure.
Thank
you.
D
Good
morning,
I'm
joe
fabrizio
I'm
the
chief
judge,
currently
the
52nd
district
court,
which
is
broken
into
four
different
divisions,
I'm
physically
seated
in
the
clarkston
building.
The
52-2
and
seated
with
me,
are
the
court
administrators
of
each
of
the
four
respective
divisions,
and
so
I
guess
I'll.
Let
them
introduce
themselves
starting
with
52-1.
G
D
52Nd
district
court,
as
I'm
sure
most
of
you
know,
encompasses
about
75
percent
of
the
geographic
area
of
oakland
county.
It's
a
class
two
district
court,
which
means
it's
county
funded
as
opposed
to
the
remaining
25
percent
of
of
the
county,
which
are
class
three
courts
funded
by
their
local
municipalities.
D
The
52nd
district
court
is
the
second
largest
district
court
in
the
state
of
michigan.
Second,
only
to
the
36th
district
court,
which
is
in
detroit,
we
heard
approximately
close
to
100
000
cases
last
year.
D
D
We
do
operate
individually
and
and
together
as
a
team,
so
each
of
the
divisions
have
their
own
are
supposed
to
have
their
own
basic
infrastructure
each
with
the
court
administrator
that
is
in
charge
of
the
day-to-day
operations.
But
we
pool
a
lot
of
resources.
D
D
For
example,
in
in
the
current
environment,
we
have
been
along
with
everybody,
dealing
with
covet
issues
and
and
labor
shortage
issues,
and
when
the
need
arises,
we're
able
to
shift
on
a
occasion,
employees
from
one
courthouse
to
the
other
or
court
administrators
actually
can
actually
come
and
assist
as
needed.
D
It
has
placed
quite
a
strain
on
the
operations,
though,
and
when
I
say
it
has,
I
mean
both
the
labor
shortage,
the
cobot
issues.
Just
last
week,
the
clarkson
district
court
had
lost
one
third
of
its
employees
due
to
covet
issues,
and
so
it's
obviously
a
challenge
to
operate
in
this
environment,
not
to
mention
caseload,
which
is
has
resumed
back
to
pre-covered
numbers.
You
know,
obviously,
there's
a
big
dip
in
numbers
during
the
the
initial
period.
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After
the
pandemic
hit,
but
we
have
increased
back
to
pre-covered
numbers
and
we
are
having
you
know
case
delays
if
a
witness
or
a
juror
or
an
attorney
calls
in
with
cole
that,
obviously
that's
going
to
delay
the
case.
D
We've
had
a
number
of
other
challenges
dealing
with
the
ensuing
mental
health
crisis
that
is
associated
with
many
of
the
stresses,
partly
due
to
covet
but
other
other
factors,
and
so
we'll
go
into
a
little
bit
more
detail
about
some
of
the
challenges
that
we're
dealing
with
and
and
how
we're
overcoming
some
of
these.
These
issues,
and
also
maybe
some
assists
that
we
can
get
from
from
the
county
in
dealing
with
these
issues.
Moving
forward,
the
proposed
budget
that's
been
presented
in
large
part.
D
D
And
so
the
budget
currently
as
proposed
does
not
take
that
into
account.
So
with
that,
we
have
this
wonderful
powerpoint
presentation
that
alex
has
put
together
and
I'll.
Let
alex
black
take
it
over
from
there.
Okay.
F
Thank
you
judge,
so,
as
you
can
see
on
our
first
slide,
we
wanted
to
highlight
some
of
the
things
that
we
thought.
Maybe
the
commissioners
newer
commissioners,
commissioners
who
have
been
here
a
long
time,
aren't
aware
that
we
do.
I
know
you
hear
a
lot
about
our
specialty
courts
but,
as
I
think
most
of
you
in
this
room
know,
we've
started
our
mental
health
court.
F
That
is
assist
people
county-wide,
it's
not
just
for
the
52nd
district
court,
but,
as
the
judge
mentioned,
I
think
most
people
don't
realize
that
our
52nd
district
courts
encompass
about
75
of
the
oakland
county
population,
but
we
serve
everyone
right.
Anyone
who
comes
through
and
gets
a
ticket
or
anything
we
we
serve
that
population.
While
we
are
serving
that
population
as
well
in
our
mental
health
court,
we
received
our
first
year
grant.
Funding
of
it
was
originally
thirty
four
thousand
dollars.
F
We
went
through
back
mid-year
and
asked
for
some
more
funding,
so
we
could
get
a
mental
health
liaison.
I
think
I
appeared
in
front
of
most
of
you
talked
about
getting
that
additional
money
in
they.
You
know
our
funding
was
low
our
first
year
because
it
was
we
were
in
a
planning
stage,
so
they
don't.
They
only
give
you
so
much
when
you're
in
a
planning
stage,
which
was
turned
out
to
be
rightfully
so
we
didn't
need
all
the
money
that
they
were
giving
us
or
that
I
was
asking
for
now.
F
We've
applied
for
us
a
second
year
of
124
000,
the
application's
pending,
I'm
hopeful.
We
are
going
to
continue
this
program
one
way
or
another.
One
of
the
things
we
want
to
highlight
is
we
did
go
and
ask
for
that
grant
money.
So
we
could
do
this
program
without
coming
to
the
board
and
asking
for
funding
for
a
probation
officer
or
mental
health
liaison.
We
we
will
find
alternative
sources
if
possible,
to
get
the
funding.
We
need
to
help
the
people
that
we
help
in
our
courts.
F
Currently
I
just
thought
you'd
like
an
update.
We
have
19
participants.
We
have
our
first
graduation
expected
in
january
2023.
You
will
all
be
invited,
we're
hoping
to
have
it
here
at
at
the
auditorium.
We
think
it's
a
really
important.
It's
going
to
be
a
really
important.
Graduation
and
I
think
a
lot
of
people
are
going
to
be
very
pleased
with
what
the
improvements
they
see
in
these
lives,
the
other
specialty
courts
that
all
of
the
district
courts
participate
in.
We
all
have
sobriety
court
and
drug
drug
court
programs.
F
Our
grant
funding
for
those
things
are
totaling
307
thousand
dollars.
Again
we
wrote
those
grants
ourselves,
we
don't
have
grant
writers,
we
do
it
ourselves
and
we
we
do
a
great
job
of
getting
the
funding
that
we
need
instead
of
coming
to
the
county
and
asking
for
those
funds
for
these
programs
that
do
help
people
county-wide
we-
and
we
also
have
our
statewide
veterans
court
program-
that's
housed
in
my
location,
but
all
all
the
courts
participate
in
that
as
well
and
we
accept
transfers
from
every
other
district
court.
F
B
And
then,
of
course,
I
want
to
stop
you
there
just
for
a
second
to
ask
about
that.
Specifically,
do
you
get
paid
by
the
other
courts
for
taking
their
people?
No,
just
if
somebody
farmington
court
wants
to
send
you
somebody
to
sobriety
court,
you
take
them,
but
the
farmington
court
doesn't
cough
up
any
money.
F
No,
they
do
not
cough
up
any
money,
the
participant
themselves.
If
they
have
money,
then
they
pay
for
the
probation
oversight,
expense,
which
is
what
every
probationer
pays
is
like
an
oversight,
expense
to
have
their
case
overseen,
but
the
court
themselves
do
not
pay
us
to
take
those
transfer
cases
and
we
take
them
every
day.
F
We
have
lots
of
we
we
have.
Actually.
We
know
how
many
we
take
every
year
because
we
have
a
a
t
code.
So
we
give
it
a
special
case
number
and
I
I
can't
speak
for
the
other
courts,
but
I
know
that
they
take
transfer
cases,
but
I
know
that
in
my
place
with
the
veterans,
court,
mental
health
court
and
all
of
our
other
specialty
courts,
I
mean
it's
in
the
hundreds,
but
we
never
asked
those
other
courts
for
money.
F
The
other
thing
that
we
do
for
all
a
lot
of
other
courts
is
the
weekend
arraignment
a
weekend
holiday,
arraignment
program,
which
we
we
don't
really
talk
about
too
much
while
we're
in
here,
but
just
again
for
knowledge
sake.
We
run
a
weekend
arraignment
program,
that's
run
out
of
my
location.
I
oversee
the
program.
We
have
two
clerks
and
a
magistrate
every
weekend
and
every
holiday
that
arraigns
anybody
that's
in
the
jail
waiting
awaiting
arraignment
that
we
have
all
the
paperwork.
F
So
the
prosecutor
has,
to
you
know,
get
paperwork
in
the
system,
the
police
departments,
it's
a
large
coordinated
effort
to
get
those
people
arraigned
and
make
sure
that
their
rights
are
are
taken
care
of.
We
do
that.
We've
been
doing
that
since
1986
actually
and
a
lot
of
people
don't
even
realize
that,
but
we
recently
expanded
to
extend
our
services
on
holidays
as
well
a
lot
of
the
other
district
courts.
Let's
say
50th
district
court
in
pontiac:
they
don't
have
a
magistrate
and
we
all
we.
F
We
have
those
resources,
so
those
judges
have
to
do
the
arraignments
and
they
have
a
very
large
caseload
as
it
is
so
then,
if,
if
we
didn't
do
that
for
them,
then
they
have
to
find
somebody
to
arraign
on
holidays.
They
don't
have
the
money
for
it.
So
we
I
reached
out-
and
I
talked
to
judge
walker
and
we
arranged
for
them
to
be
able
to
participate
in
the
holiday
program.
F
So
so
we
serve
but
again.
F
So
we
serve
a
total
of
nine
district
courts
when
we
do
that,
but
it's
far-reaching.
We
have
over
40
municipalities
and
townships
police
departments
that
feed
into
that
program.
So
we
arrange
a
lot
of
people
on
the
weekend
and
make
sure
that
they're
taken
care
of
okay,
any
questions
on
that
slide
or
you
want
to
save
questions
again.
F
F
So
in
2020
we
had
a
budget
line
item
reduction
of
98
000
per
administration
request.
They
had
come
to
us
and
asked
for
191
000
out
of
our
budget.
We
didn't-
I
mean
no
exaggeration.
It
was
very
difficult
to
come
up
with
98
000,
but
we
did
because
they
did
say
you
know
we
we
want
to
come
back
to
where
the
departments
have
is.
You
know
a
balanced
budget
of
money.
They
actually
need
not
like
here's
my
want
for
this
year.
F
F
in
2020.
Also
because
we
recognized
that
the
county
was
in
a
little.
You
know
we
were
all
having
financial
problems
right.
We
increased
our
fines
and
costs
in
the
in
the
traffic
area
in
the
traffic
tickets
to
come
in
line
with
the
rest
of
the
state,
so
we're
at
the
state
average.
Now
we
don't,
we
never
want
to
be
charging
more
than
the
state
average
it
just.
F
It's,
not
a
good
look,
and
I
don't
think
it's
we
don't
think
it's
appropriate,
so
we
did,
but
we
did,
we
were
quite
behind,
so
we
did
increase
that
in
an
attempt
to
bring
our
revenue
up
and,
as
I
think
you
guys
have
in
the
paperwork
our
budget
is.
Our
operating
budget
is
about
18
million
dollars
and
our
revenue
side
is
expected
to
be
around
12
million.
Well,
obviously,
with
kovid.
F
First
of
all,
we
didn't
have
the
cases,
and
second
of
all
I
mean
asking
people
to
pay,
was
a
very
difficult
task,
so
our
revenue
had
gone
down
quite
a
bit
in
mid-year,
2020
2021,
it's
starting
to
creep
up
again.
Obviously,
now
that
we've
got
cases
increasing
and
people
are
working,
but
our
traffic
tickets.
Thank
god
we
did
that,
because
the
the
hit
to
our
revenue
would
have
been
even
bigger.
So
we
did
increase
that
in
an
attempt
to
try
to
mitigate
that
and
then
in
2021
we
had
the
reduction
of
staff.
F
They
did
ask.
I'm
sure
you
guys
are
all
aware
of
the
workforce
planning
reduction
plan
that
we
all
had
to
do
and
we
reduced
our
staff
by
three
250
294
000.
Excuse
me
so
this
year
they'd
asked
us
to
to
reduce
by
more
staff
members.
We
really
can't
do
that
and
be
effective
and
provide
proper
services
to
the
community.
F
In
2022
we
have
increased
our
collection
efforts.
We've
utilized
our
collection,
clerks,
we've
all
developed
a
collection
clerk
for
this
purpose
to
make
sure
that,
when
we're
asking
people
to
pay
that
they
have
the
ability
to
pay,
we
don't
want
to
continue
to
ask
people
who
don't
even
have
the
ability
to
pay
and
then
put
them
on
payment
plans.
Their
interest
repayment
plans,
but
it
does
increase
our
collections.
F
And
then
the
continued
share
resources.
We
gave
you
just
an
amount
of
approximately
569
thousand.
What
we
did
was
we
took
a
look
at
how
many
times
how
many
probation
officers
did
we
send
to
another
court
when
coveted
hit
or
when
somebody
was
out
on
leave
or,
for
instance,
when
we
were
short,
a
court
administrator,
and
I
was
covering
in
troy.
That
was
a
savings
of
about
fifty
thousand
dollars
because
of
the
time
span
that
we
were
waiting
to
get
this
awesome
new
court
administrator.
F
So
that
ended
up
working
out
really
well
for
us,
but
obviously
that
was
that's
a
difficult
task
to
do
all
in
that
this.
Last
year
alone,
we
figured
it
was
a
savings
about
569
000
by
using
our
shared
resources.
Instead
of
going
to
hr
and
saying
we
need
an
emergency
salary
person,
we
need
a
substitute
court
recorder.
We
need
a
somebody
to
cover
and
troy.
We
just
we
didn't
do
that
and
then
there's
the
arpa
funding
request
that
we
have
put
forward
now.
F
F
Rather
than
have
a
physical
person
go
up
to
them,
it
mitigates
covet
contact
and
also
could
allow
for
us
to
maybe
maybe
in
the
future,
not
need
as
many
people,
which
is
one
of
the
things
the
county
has
continually
asked
us
for
it's
really
difficult
when
we
don't
have
proper
technology
technology,
that
again
video
courtrooms
same
thing.
We
have
to
have
court
recorders.
F
If
we
had
video
courtrooms,
we
wouldn't
have
to
have
a
court
recorder.
We
could
have
a
judicial
secretary
which
doesn't
cost
as
much
money
and
isn't
required
to
be
in
the
courtroom
laptops
for
staff,
as
we
you've
heard
us
say
a
couple
of
times
now
we
haven't
been
able
to
allow
our
staff
to
work
from
home.
So
when
there
is
a
covet
issue,
there's
we're
stuck
with
saying:
okay,
you!
F
Now
you
have
to
burn
your
time,
because
we
no
longer
have
the
covet
leave
and
heard
12
people
had
to
burn
their
vacation
time
because
it
was
a
requirement
for
them
not
to
be
in
the
office,
and
we
didn't
have
any
way
for
them
to
work
from
home.
We
don't
have
laptops
to
allow
them
to
take
home.
So
we're
not
going
to
ask
them:
they
can't
even
use
their
personal
laptops
to
access
jis,
which
they
can't
do
from
home
unless
it's
a
county,
laptop,
there's.
F
So
many
things
that
we're
so
far
behind
technologically
that
prevent
us
from
being
able
to
to
do
the
things
that
the
county
is
asking
us
to
do,
and
I
guess
you
know
I
don't
want
to
be
adversarial.
It's
just
it's
just
a
fact
and
then
there's
the
upgraded
touchless
restrooms
that
we
asked
for
too
that
that
looks
like
that's
going
to
go
through.
F
Very
important
nobody
wants
to
touch
the
toilet.
Oh
did
they
miss
you,
oh
they're,
so
fiscally
responsible
that
they
printed
on
both
sides.
I
almost
skipped
a
slide.
F
Proposed
budget
deviation
request.
So
this
is
what
the
judge
was
referring
to,
one
of
the
things
that
we
learned
through
the
lack
of
having
a
well.
We
already
knew.
I
guess
I
should
say
one
of
the
things
I
learned.
I
have
a
deputy
court
administrator.
I
don't
know
how
a
structurally
balanced
department
has
a
department
head
or
a
division
manager,
and
then
the
next
person
is
a
supervisor
over
clerical
staff.
That's
what
we
have
in
two
of
our
our
district
courts
and
clarkson
and
troy
they've
been
operating
without
a
deputy
court
administrator.
F
So
so
in
most
departments,
you'll
have
a
department
head
or
a
division
manager,
and
then
you'll
have
a
second
in
charge
and
a
third
in
charge,
and
then
you've
got
the
larger
like
picture
like
a
tree.
I
guess
right
so
then
you've
got
your
supervisors
who
are
overall,
the
clerical
staff.
That's
how
most
district
courts
or
courts
in
general
are
structured.
F
If
you
ask
circuit
court,
they
have
kevin
and
then
they've
got
the
deputy
and
then
they've
got
all
these
other
people
well
in
district
courts
because
we're
smaller,
we
have
a
court
administrator
and
most
district
courts
have
a
deputy
court
administrator.
Second
in
line
and
then
you'll
have
an
office
manager
and
then
you'll
have
supervisors.
F
That
would
be.
That
would
be
structurally
balanced.
That's
what
I
mean
in
this
context,
so
we
don't
have
that
in
two
of
our
district
courts,
and
we've
been
talking
about
this
for
a
long
time
that
it's
been
an
issue,
it
makes
it
very
difficult
for
the
judges
to
have
a
go-to
person
these.
These
are
human
beings,
they're,
not
robots.
They
do
get
sick,
they
do
get
vacation,
they
do.
They
should
be
able
to
disconnect
and
there
is
no
disconnect
when
you
don't
have
a
second
in
charge
or
third
in
charge.
F
F
For
me
personally,
why
it
became
very
glaringly
obvious
was
when
I
had
to
go
to
troy
and
work
both
courts,
and
I
would
have
probably
continued
to
help
anyway,
but
if
they
had
a
deputy
court
administrator,
that
would
not
have
happened,
and
we
can't
have
that
happen.
I
mean
it's,
it's
just
not
structurally
balanced
and
it's
not
fair
to
the
staff
who
are
covering
and
trying
to
do
the
job
of
an
administrator
and
having
that
kind
of
pressure
on
them
and
responsibility
for
the
pay
of
a
fifty
thousand
dollar
supervisor.
F
It's
just
not
how
it
should
be,
and
so
we
we
went
to
hr
after
my
experience
there
and
ask
them
to
do
a
study.
It's
at
the
end
of
our
slide.
You
will
see
the
the
letter
that
they
at
the
left
end
of
our
presentation.
You'll
see
the
letter
that
they
provided
us
that
they
deemed
it
is
necessary.
F
Well,
this
is
this
is
the
response
we
got
so
and
we
understand
and
respect
that
you
know
the
the
finance
you
know.
Department
has
a
purpose
and
they
have
to
keep
things
in
line
in
the
budget.
But
this
is
not
what
we
were
told,
and
so
we
cut
things
that
we
wouldn't
have.
Otherwise
we
would
have
said
we
we
can't
cut
them.
C
E
Thank
you
very
much
for
coming
and
your
your
presentation.
One
thing
that
seems
to
be
a
recurring
theme
is
needs
in
the
technology
sector
from
a
number
of
different
different
departments.
Have
you
come
up
with
or
made
a
sort
of
a
proposal,
a
plan?
E
What
you'd
like
to
see
what
it
would
cost
where
you
would
use
it
for
and
if
you
haven't,
you
might
want
to
think
about
that
about
how
to
get
you,
how
to
get
your
the
district
courts
up
to
where
you
think
you
ought
to
be
well
yeah
to.
C
J
E
Then
we
can
talk
about
the
24.
yeah,
then
we
can
talk
about
the
21st,
but
so
I
mean
after
the
19th
you
know
it's
not
bad
at
all.
Is
that
the
idea
that
maybe
a
plan
of
some
sort
to
be
ready
in
case
money
and
support
ever
becomes
available
to
bring
you
up
to
speed
like
what
is
everybody
else
doing?
What
are
your
peers
doing?
What
are
your
peer
courts
yeah?
I
know
you
don't
have
any
peers.
Of
course
you
are
above
them
all,
but
nonetheless,
what
about
you
know?
F
Yes,
we
have,
we
have
presented
the
same,
these
same
requests
every
year.
Every
year
we,
yes,
we
did.
F
Was
it
was
two
years
ago-
and
I
mean
they
just
got
internet
two
years
ago,
but
it
was
only
a
year
and
a
half.
I
guess
when
it
finally
came
in,
but
I
mean
some
of
the
commissioners
were
here
when
I
brought
that
up
at
one
of
the
meetings
and
then
it
became
a
very
large
topic
of
conversation,
because
I
said
well
I
mean
sure
I'd
like
to
get
rid
of
our
library
books,
but
we
don't
have
internet.
F
E
G
Charles,
I
think,
there's
lots
of
merit
to
allowing
them
to
finish
because
there's
some
stuff
in
the
the
name
of
the
file
that
we
call
it
is
the
the
one
with
the
chart
at
the
top
there's
a
couple.
There's
a
black
and
white
section.
If
you
scroll
to
page
four
that
speaks
to
some
of
the
goals
and
new
funding
requests
and
things
like
that,
and
it's
a
lot
of
meat
on
the
bone
that
I
want
to
get
chewing
on,
because
I
think
we've
got
some
work
to
do
as
a
commission.
F
F
Unfortunately
we're
still
talking
about
it
today
we're
not
really
sure
the
status
of
that
feasibility
study.
The
last
thing
that
we
received
was
they
had
done
the
first
phase.
It's
my
understanding
is
we've
been
grouped
or
lumped
with
the
overall
building
plan
for
oakland
county,
so
plant
moran
did
determine
that
the
square
footage
of
thirteen
thousand
dollars
is
unacceptable
in
that
building,
and
then
it.
D
F
Feet,
sorry,
thirteen
thousand
square
feet
is
unacceptable.
It
should
be
approximately
25
000
square
feet
to
be
suitable,
so
they're
at
about
half
of
what
they
should
be
building
wise
for
safety
purposes,
for
just
being
able
to
not
sit
on
top
of
each
other
and
not
end
up
with
two
rounds
of
covid
go
through
there.
So
so
we
are
still
having
security
breaches.
F
The
second
covet
outbreak
in
18
months
that
wiped
out
a
third
of
the
staff
hipaa
violations
that's
ongoing
every
day,
and
that
is
against
the
law,
but
that
doesn't
seem
to
matter
completely
maxed
out
in
working
space
and
storage
and
then
with
this
hundred
thousand
dollars,
like
I
said
we,
the
current
status
of
part,
two
is
unknown
to
us.
We
really
haven't
had
a
communication,
brett
dairy,
the
court
administrator
there
has
reached
out
many
times
to
try
to
find
out
what
the
status
is.
Are
we
buying
new
land?
Are
we
finding
an
existing
building?
K
E
C
F
B
F
C
Issues
yeah.
C
About
the
latest
building
issues,
I
just
look
back
the
last
couple
of
months
april:
2022
we
didn't
have
heat
for
four
days.
I
sent
an
email,
no
response.
We
had
toilet
break
during
a
jury
trial,
we
had
a
jury
room,
we
had
to
turn
into
jail
cells
and
we
paid
two
extra
deputies
to
stand.
Guard.
I
sent
an
email
update
to
the
executive
team,
heard
nothing
in
may
of
2022.
We
had
another
toilet
break
reminder.
C
We
only
have
two
toilets
for
40
staff
members,
most
of
whom
are
women
for
the
brakes,
floods,
the
hallway
and
the
tech
room,
and
we
found
animals
in
the
wall.
That
month,
in
june
of
2022,
an
elderly
woman
slips
on
a
broken
toilet
seat
july
of
2022.
The
conference
room
springs,
a
lake,
the
toilet
breaks
and
floods,
the
room
again
and
a
second
lake
comes
through
and
the
tiles
fall
on
my
head,
while
I'm
trying
to
address
them
because
we
don't
have
any
maintenance
people
on
spot
on
site.
C
So
when
these
things
break,
I'm
up
there
fixing
them
working
with
wrench
august
2022,
you've
heard
from
the
judge.
A
third
of
my
staff
got
sick
and
we
sent
them
home
to
take
their
vacation
time
and
then
to
come
back
and
sit
as
close
as
we're
sitting
right
now,
and
I
have
to
wish
them
the
best
of
luck
that
they
remain
and
I
sent
an
email,
no
response.
I
asked
for
an
update
from
the
project
manager
on
the
building
study.
May
19th
no
update
to
give.
C
I
send
an
email
update
to
the
project
manager
june
10th
no
update
to
get.
I
sent
an
email
to
the
executive
team.
Can
someone
please
tell
me:
what's
going
on
on
june
17th
no
response
whatsoever?
I
send
another
email
july
21st
an
update
to
the
executive
team.
Can
someone
please
tell
me
what's
going
on
from
this-
is
supposed
to
be
out
in
april
no
response
whatsoever.
B
A
C
A
C
M
C
Don't
even
understand
how
that's
possible,
when
you
say
you're
sending
emails
to
the
executive
team
we'd
like
to
know
who
is
not
responding
to
you.
I
don't
maybe
you
want
to
tell
us
privately
is
fine,
but
that's.
M
F
We're
going
to
run
a
bake
sale
soon.
I
think
we've
traditionally
just
never
charged
other
district
courts.
We
look
at
as
a
partnership.
We
know
that
we
receive
county
funding
and
we
recognize
that
we've
we've
recognized
that
from
the
beginning,
you
know
it's
I've
been
in
a
couple
of
these
sessions
where
I've
heard
commissioners
say
well.
Why
are
we
giving
all
this
money
to
these
district
courts?
My
district
court-
am
I
it's
true.
Doesn't.
I
B
I
want
to
be
mindful
of
time
so
we're
going
to
want
you
to
keep
going,
but,
commissioner
mcgilver
you
had
a
question
yeah,
I'm
curious.
Can.
E
C
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
as
a
finance
committee
and
as
a
member
of
finance
committee.
I
certainly
would
like
to
have
answers
to
this
before
our
budget
wrap-up
meeting
next
wednesday
agreed.
A
C
C
Yeah,
so
if
we
have
to
as
a
committee,
we
need
to
maybe
sign
a
letter
to
send
it
to
whomever
and
say
we
want
some
answers
on
this.
Okay,
did
you
get
laptops.
E
D
The
court
system
was
designed
back
in
the
1960s
and
it
first
unfolded.
They
organized
into
three
different
cast
classes.
Of
course,
a
class
one
court
is
funded
by
the
state
of
michigan.
A
class
2
court
is
funded
by
the
county.
A
class
3
court
is
funded
by
the
city
or
the
township,
and
the
way
that
it
unrolled
back
in
the
60s
was
that
the
more
affluent
or
established
parts
of
the
of
the
of
the
county
or
of
the
state
they
opted
to
run
their
own
court
system.
D
So,
at
the
time,
what
what
makes
up
the
52nd
district
court
was
mostly
farmland,
and
so
that's
why
75
percent
of
the
county
at
the
time,
which
was
mostly
you
know,
rural
by
default,
became
a
class
ii
court
as
opposed
to
those
those
city,
organized
courts
like
royal
oak
and
ferndale
and
and
bloomfield.
Well,
those
were
thriving
cities
even
back
then,
and
they
opted
to
run
their
own
court
system.
D
So
so
those
those
are
the
the
past
three
courts
and
then
the
county
stepped
up
and
rather
than
having
it
default
to
the
state
and
have
the
state
of
michigan
running
75
percent
of
the
oakland
county
court
system,
oakland
county
stepped
up
and
said
you
know
those
those
areas
of
the
county
that
don't
choose
to
run
their
own
court
system.
The
county
will
take
on
that
that
task,
and
so
that's
how
it
was
unfolded
back
in
the
60s.
D
There's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
at
the
state
level
as
to
you
know,
does
this
need
to
be
readdressed
as
far
as
how
the
class
system
of
the
courts
are
organized?
Maybe
it
made
sense
back
then.
Maybe
it
doesn't
so
much
now.
But
the
fact
is
is
that
this
is
a
statutory
organization
of
the
courts
and
that's
how
that's
how
it's
organized
does
and
now
she
used
to
work
jennifer
phillips
used
to
work
for
the
supreme
court.
So
if
I
said
anything,
no.
I
I
There
is
a
difference
in
how
the
fines
and
costs
are
distributed,
though
so
for
the
county
courts,
you
get
the
cost
portion
for
the
third
class
courts,
they
get
caught,
it's
they
get
the
fines
and
the
costs.
So
it's
not.
There
are
some
discrepancies,
but
you
have
to
really
evaluate
it
to
see.
When
I
worked
in
waterford,
we
actually
worked
with
bob
datto
to
try
to
come
to
the
county
and
it's
basically
it's
the
courts
are
a
cost,
no
matter
who's
funding,
whether
it's
the
community,
whether
it's
the
county
but
the
courts.
I
Just
I
mean
they
have
to
be
funded.
There's
also
the
court
equity
fund,
which
feeds
money
back
into
the
county
from
all
of
the
district
courts,
which
also
helps
as
a
reason
of
why
we
would
do
things
like
the
arraignments
on
the
weekends.
But
I,
if
anyone
has
any
questions,
I'm
more
than
willing
to
to
talk
about
it
anytime.
It's
a
whole
big
system.
E
F
Was
our
that
was
because
of
the
hit
and
covet
that
I
had
mentioned
at
the
beginning?
So
as
you
see
we
were
originally,
we
were
slated
to
collect
12
million
and
that
was
sort
of
we
were
hitting
pretty
close
to
that
target
for
many
years
and
then
as
soon
as
covet
hit
with
the
reduction
in
arrests
and
tickets,
and
you
know
all
the
things
that
just
came
to
a
screeching
halt
that
really
impacted
our
revenue
and
then
that
has
perpetuated.
Obviously,
in
2021
our
caseload
still
wasn't
where
it
it
should
have
been
pre-coveted.
F
But
now
this
year
our
caseload
is
creeping
back
up
to
where
it
was.
Mental
health
crisis
is
increasing
our
caseload.
The
drug
problem
is
increasing
our
caseload,
so
it's
going
back
up
because
we
can't
continue
to
ignore
these
things.
Obviously,
so
the
increase
in
revenue
of
course,
will
follow,
but
that's
why
there
was
such
a
big
decrease.
F
We
all
have
one
one
position,
that's
two
thousand
hours,
but
we
each
have
magistrates
that
that
split
those
hours
so
like
I
have
four
in
my
division
and
I
think
three,
three
three
two,
so
those
magistrates
are
all
sharing
one
two
thousand
hour
position
and
we
share
magistrates
yeah.
We
share
magistrates,
all
the
time.
B
Okay,
any
other
questions,
commissioner,
charles.
G
Yeah
I
mean
I
jumped
to
the
end
of
the
presentation
already
because
I
have
adult
add
and
I'm
just
saying
I
sit
on
infrastructure
as
many
of
us
at
this
table
do
and
our
agendas
are
light
and
you
know
fluffy
and
I
feel
like
these
things
should
have
been
coming
before
us
on
a
regular
cadence
to
be
able
to.
I
mean
hipaa
violations
at
a
court.
I
mean
that's
just
beyond
me
and
everything
else
that
was
just
named
on
that
particular
on
this
slide.
Here
I
don't
even
need
to
hear
more.
G
L
I
know
I
want
to
apologize
for
my
lateness
and
I
also
what
is
your
first
name
again
alexandra.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
because
you
always
bring
stuff
to
our
attention.
So
thank
you
because
if,
if
we
don't
know,
we
can't
help
fix
the
problem
right.
So
just
so,
you
all
know
she
is
an
advocate
for
you
all
one
thing,
and
then
I
just
I
came
in
like
what
is
the
total,
because
I
see
all
of
this.
L
F
Well:
okay,
well,
it's
in
different
50
000
for
the
deviation
that
we're
asking
for
okay
asking
for
a
deviation
to
be
structurally
balanced
in
two
of
the
district
courts
to
just
summarize,
for
you
we're
we're
missing
a
key
key
administrator
in
two
district
courts.
So
that's
the
deviation
we've
been
asking
for,
but
in
addition
to
that,
we
were
talking
about
how
we
are
so
behind
technologically
that
number
yeah.
So
that
is.
F
That
is
the
other
thing
and
then,
of
course,
the
clarkston
courthouse
is
the
biggest
problem
we
have
and
you
all
had
agreed
to
the
hundred
thousand
dollars
last
year
for
the
feasibility
study
and
and
yeah,
and-
and
I
want
to
thank
you
guys
as
well,
because
this
is
a
much
different
commission
than
I
ever
had
to
appear
in
front
of
and
and
you're
so
receptive,
and
you
took
the
time
to
listen
to
us
and
vote
for
this
hundred
thousand.
L
Okay,
so
that
was
in
a
nutshell,
I
have
been
very
frustrated
with
the
tech
stuff
we
all
have.
So
I
just
think
whatever
chair
you
decide
to
do
with
that.
We
need
to
kind
of
get
on
it
and-
and
I'm
actually
requesting
now
that
since
we
do
have
so,
especially
with
our
courts,
that
they
come
to
report
to
us
on
a
quarterly
maybe
every
month,
two
months,
I
don't
know
for
us
to
kind
of
keep
track
of.
L
What's
going
on
to
know
to
know,
because
this
is
getting
out
of
hand
and
the
further
we
don't
you
know
the
sooner,
we
don't
catch
up.
If
we
don't
catch
up,
we're
gonna
fall
more
behind.
B
You
point
out
something
I
think
we're
all
seeing,
which
is
that
this
is
the
technology
piece
of
it
is
really
across
all
of
the
courts.
J
A
B
Of
the
other
departments
as
well,
but
specifically
the
courts
with
all
of
the
paper
that
they
have
to
move,
and
so
I
have
reached
out
to
the
chairman
last
night
we
talked
about
it.
I
talked
to
sean
carlson.
This
morning
I
talked
to
kyle
jenn
yesterday
afternoon
about
it
I
said,
you're
going
to
hear
about
this
we're
going
to
bring
this
forward.
We
need
to
fix
it
it.
This
can't
continue
the
way
it
has
been.
L
Sorry,
just
one
more
question:
do
we
think
if
we
collaborately
sent
a
letter
or
something
with
all
our
signatures,
or
we
all
start
calling,
because
you
know
that's
what
happened
with
let's
take
when
we
want
some
change
or
some
action,
we
all
got
to
start
calling
do
we
need
the
call?
Can
you
know
on
the
budget
until
it's
taken
care
of
yeah
right?
You
write
about
right.
L
B
L
F
Did
our
only
concern
with
it
is
a
response
I
received
today
because
I
was
digging
into
okay,
they
so
they
approved
our
touchless
bathrooms
and
that's
great,
and
I
have
to
do
the
next
phase
to
get
that
money,
but
for
as
far
as
our
technological
piece,
their
response
was
well.
Our
understanding
is
it's
going
to
be
part
of
the
it
upgrades
and
I
was
like
no.
No.
No,
we
are.
We
want
arpa
funds
for
these
things
first
and
foremost,
because
hey,
why
wouldn't
we
they
are?
F
They
are
part
of
coved
mitigation
and
also,
why
would
we
go
to
the
county
when
we
can
get
arpa
funds?
So
so
I
looped
back
and
let
ken
dobson
know
that
that
we
are
not
that's.
Not
our
primary
target
is
to
get
it
through.
It
upgrades
and
be
in
that
mix
of
we'll
get
to
you
when
we
get
to
you,
because
we
just
we
just
can't
do
that.
Yep.
L
C
Long
yeah,
I
just
have
one
question
on
the
that's
that
slide
the
video
court.
Recording.
Oh
yes,
is
that
just
for
clarkson
or
do
you
have
video
record
recording
in
any
cl.
I
We
have
one
we're
installing
our
first
one
next
week
in
troy,
but
what
we're
asking
for
is
the
same
technology
that
they
have
throughout
all
of
circuit
court
already,
so
to
do
all
of
the
courts.
Actually,
I
think
this
is
a
little
low
because,
as
yeah
the
time
has
worked,
you
know,
as
time
has
gone
on,
the
the
quotes
have
increased.
So
I
think
we're
closer
to
400
000
now
and
we
could
have
all
of
the
10
judges
and
all
of
the
magistrates
video.
So
it
is
so
that
could.
M
C
Amazed-
and
I
think
all
of
us
are
disgusted
that
we
are
so
far
behind
in
technology,
for
our
courts
and
we're
you
know
the
wealth
one
of
the
wealthiest
counties,
probably
in
the
united
states,
and
so
we
we
will
work
on
this,
for
you
guys.
Thank
you,
video
system
changeover
for
circuit.
I
think
the
last
court
went
2005.
I
F
B
B
All
right,
well
yeah,
I'm
going
to
throw
it
back
to
the
people
from
the
courts.
Is
there
anything
else
you
want
to
really
highlight
for
us.
F
Yeah,
I
don't
want
to
because
I
don't
want
you
guys
to
end
up
going
too
long,
but
the
communication
from
the
from
hr
is
one
of
the
things
I
really
want
to
highlight
the
compensation
and
classification
classification
unit,
as
you
see
on,
can
you
go
to
that
slide?.
G
G
C
F
I
wanted
to
skip
the
next
one
only
because
it's
the
outlook
for
future
years,
we
just
talked
about
we're
going
to
expand
our
treatment
course
we're
going
to
expand,
skip
public,
okay
judge.
My
boss
said
to
skip
it
all
right.
So
communication
from
hr
really
important
to
highlight
here
we
have
the
compensation
unit
and
hr
saying
yep,
you
definitely
are
not
structurally
balanced.
F
You
need
a
deputy
court
administrator
and
these
two
courts
we're
going
to
end
up
with
a
lawsuit
from
one
of
these
other
employees
that
are
being
asked
to
do
things
that
they
shouldn't
be
doing
and
they're
going
to
they're
going
to
screw
something
up.
That's
just
really
the
bottom
line,
and
so
here
it
is
here's
the
communication.
I
we
cut
and
pasted
it.
So
you
can
see
what
we
got
and
that's
the
response
we
got
back
was
well.
You
didn't
cut
people,
you
don't
have
the
money,
you
can't
have
it.
Oh.
F
F
F
Well,
according
to
him,
we
had
256
000
that
we
had
to
comply
with
still,
which
is
not
one
percent,
and
he
and
I'm
sorry,
I
don't
mean
to
say
he
they
ex.
They
included
in
our
account
of
personnel
judges
which
we
have
to
have
magistrates
which
we
have
to
have
court
recorders,
which
is
these
are
statutorily
required.
I
can't
function
so
if
you're
gonna
include
that
in
our
number
and
then
say,
okay
now
take
your
three
or
four
percent
or
seven
or
ten
percent
from
that
that
how?
How
is
that
even
possible?
F
F
F
No,
you
have
the
communications
from
plant
moran.
That
was
the
really
important
for
you.
I
think,
to
see
the
25
000
square
feet
that
they
think
we
should
have
in
clarkson
and
we
have
13
000,
which
you've
heard
you're
glad
you
missed
it.
It
was
it's
terribly
depressing,
the
amount
of
communication
that
has
been
ignored,
but
we
really
appreciate
the
commissioners.
We
really
want
to
stress
that
we
feel
heard
when
we
come
here
and
it's
been
fantastic.
That's
the
only
way
we
even
got
our
wi-fi.
I
know
that's
crazy.
Yes,.
F
H
B
A
B
A
So
especially
for
you,
all,
the
people
in
the
community
have
been
hearing
me
ask
this,
but
how
does
the
ross
versus
36th
district
court
affect
y'all
related
to
bail
reform
right?
This
is
kind
of
a
big
deal
right.
F
Right
so
so,
as
you
heard
me
mention
the
weekend
arraignment
program
it
we
have
magistrates
that
we,
the
chief
judge,
has
hired
that
we
believe
really
pay
attention
to
the
person,
the
case
in
front
of
them,
and
they
set
excellent
bonds
that
protect
the
community
and
also
ensure
the
person's
appearance
in
court.
F
D
D
What
happened
was
the
cash
bond
system
has
been
eliminated,
except
for
in
instances
of
flight
risk
and
public
safety
concerns?
Well,
if
you
look
at
the
the
the
the
court
rule
as
f
and
the
statute
as
far
as
when
cash
bonds
should
be
imposed,
those
are
the
only
two
scenarios
where
a
cash
bond
was
supposed
to
be
imposed
in
the
first
place,
and
so
the
the
notion
that
a
cash
bond
system
has
been
eliminated,
except
in
those
two
instances
I
think,
is
misleading.
D
But
obviously
there
is
a
national
movement
to
reform
the
the
the
bond
system
and
we
are
obviously
staying
paying
very
close
attention
to
that.
B
B
Okay
round
two,
we
are
on
to
the
corporation
council
and
risk
management
department.
Let
me
get
them
up
on
my
slide
here.
201
good
morning.
B
Morning,
yeah,
please
introduce
yourselves
and
tell
us
what
you
want
to
tell
us
and
then
we'll
have
questions.
N
So
I
think
the
way
we'd
like
to
get
started
is
just
to
give
you
a
brief
overview,
and
these
will
be
items
that
we
intend
to
to
address
during
the
course
of
our
budget
presentation.
So
some
of
this
you
may
already
know,
but
just
sharing
it
for
purposes
of
our
presentation.
So
in
terms
of
corp
council,
our
mission
is
to
promote
an
awareness
and
to
educate
county
employees
about
laws,
regulations
and
court
decisions
that
impact
the
county
and
its
operations.
N
We
also
provide
strategic
advice
to
the
counties,
elected
appointed
elected
and
appointed
officials
and
staff.
Our
client
is
oakland
county.
If
we
are
going
to
have
a
conversation
about
who
our
client
is.
Our
client
is
oakland
county
and
we
work
with
all
of
the
elected
officials
and
appointed
officials
in
staff
and
staff
for
the
betterment
of
the
county,
but
we
often
have
conversations
with
with
division,
heads
and
electeds
and
talk
about
who's.
The
client-
and
I
just
wanted
to
really
come
in
today
and
emphasize
that
corporation
council's
client,
is
all
of
oakland
county.
L
Yes,
hold
on
just
one
second
sure
chair,
commissioner,
me
and
mcgivery
was
trying
to
find
out
where,
in
the
small
books.
L
N
Problem
a
couple
of
the
strengths
of
corporation
council:
again,
we
provide
services
to
all
of
county
government
and
we
think
from
that
vantage
point,
it
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
be
consensus.
Builders,
you
know.
Obviously,
sometimes
different
elected
officials
are
at
odds
based
on
whatever
their
particular
goals
are,
and
we
look
at
those
as
opportunities
to
build
consensus
again
in
an
effort
to
move
the
the
county
hole
forward.
N
N
What
we
want
to
touch
on
is
what
we're
engaging
in,
which
is
an
attempt
at
cost
controls,
and
we
also,
of
course,
are
looking
at
opportunities
for
professional
development
in
new
and
existing
practice
areas
that
we
help
will
improve
the
expertise
of
our
attorneys,
and
so
with
that
said,
we
have
the
budget
presentation
itself,
which
was
pretty
straightforward,
but
before
I
go
to
that,
I
don't
know
if
risk
management
had
something
specific
that
they
wanted
to
say,
because
that
is
a
separate
operation
from
corporation
council.
B
I'll
just
be
very
brief,
the
microphone
up
close
please.
H
H
N
Thank
you,
and
so
I
I
appreciate
that
we
have
a
question,
commissioner,.
H
Initially,
some
concerns
about
employees,
in
particular
the
trades
areas
you
know
like
osha
safety.
I
didn't
deal
so
much
with
the
covit
issues,
but
primarily
other
osha
matters,
employees
ensuring
that
they
have
the
proper
equipment
to
be
safe
from
fall
protection,
for
example,
the
proper
training
we
implemented,
enhanced
basic
osha
training,
the
facilities
department.
H
When
you
know
they
had
new
hires,
you
know
you
might
be
getting
this
specific
training
or
that
training,
but
not
sort
of
a
general
here's
how
you
operate
in
a
workplace
kind
of
thing
right,
so
so
we
and
we
established
a
safety
committee
over
at
fmno
and
we've
reconstituted
the
water
resources
safety
committee,
and
that
is
a
broad-based
committee.
H
It
includes
employees
as
well
as
the
unions
and
then
the
leadership
of
those
those
departments
to
provide
an
arena
in
which
we
can
discuss
safety
concerns
and
employees
can
bring
safety
concerns
to
you
know
to
to
the
to
the
leadership
of
those
departments.
Thank
you.
N
And
so
one
of
the
things
that
that
dee
and
I
have
done
it's
gone
back
to
the
origins
of
the
claims
review
committee
and
the
establishment
of
a
risk
manager
for
oakland
county,
and
we
did
that
in
an
effort
to
better
understand
sort
of
what
the
original
principles
were
that
led
to
the
establishment
of
a
risk
manager.
And
one
of
the
things
that
that
we've
sort
of
rediscovered
is
is
the
importance
of
the
relationship
between
corporation
council
and
risk
management
for
d.
N
We
have
been
very
intentional
about
creating
a
more
thoughtful
dialogue
with
those
decision
makers
around
the
county,
because
we
believe
that
a
more
informed
decision
maker
hopefully
makes
decisions
that
lead
to
better
outcomes,
and
this
is
something
that
we're
being
very
intentional
about
not
at
the
stage
where
decisions
have
already
been
made.
But
when
formative
discussions
are
being
held
prior
to
decisions
being
made
in
trying
to
either
plan
an
avoidance
of
certain
occurrences
or
having
contingency
certain
occurrences
happen.
G
G
N
I'll,
let
umd
speak
for
herself
because
I
think
things
work
differently
with
risk
management.
Typically,
employees
do
not
necessarily
call
corporation
counsel
directly,
you
know.
Typically,
we
have
issues
where
we
are
contacted
by
management
and
so
that's
kind
of
the
way
that
things
bubble
up
to
us.
You
know
I
can
tell
you
what
I've
seen
like
with
wayne
county
in
the
city
of
detroit
is
I've
seen
an
ombuds
person.
H
I
would
say
that
I'm
probably
more
of
the
front
line
contact
that
occurs.
I
mean
I
literally
an
employee.
Just
yesterday
called
me
cold
and
said
they
have
a
real
concern
about
their
their
workplace
and
he
was
extremely
reluctant
at
first
to
call
and
give
me
his
name,
and
you
know
I
assured
him
by
giving
him
my
personal
cell
number,
that
that
he
is
going
to
be
okay,
that
retaliation
is
not,
you
know,
is
illegal,
so
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
culturally.
H
I
would
think
in
in
in
building
some
trust
there,
but
what
I
will
say
is
again
over
the
last
18
months,
since
I've
been
here
kind
of
through
word
of
mouth.
G
H
As
corp
council
is
the
council
for
the
county,
I
any
my
concern.
Is
any
oakland
county
employee
right
doesn't
matter
where
you
sit,
doesn't
matter
where
you
work?
If
you
are
an
oakland
county
employee
or
are
have
the
ability
to
or
your
employment
situation
affords
you
the
benefits
of
an
oakland
county
employee,
then
I
am
open
to
be
of
service
to
you.
That
is
that
is.
That
is
my.
That
is
my
function.
That's.
N
A
that's
a
good
question
and
usually
the
way
that
works
and
and
dee
is
very
good
about
this
when
she,
when
something
needs
to
to
bubble
over
or
up
to
us,
she's
very
good
about
articulating
that
issue,
and
hopefully
we're
in
a
position
to
be
proactive
to
talk
to
management
or
middle
management.
About
what
the
issue
is.
N
N
You
know
the
county
has
basically
pivoted
from
being
a
close
shop
where
we
have
very
few
unionized
or
very
few
bargaining
units
to
you
know
we're
starting
to
see
more
of
them,
so
that's
going
to
require
a
shift
in
the
way
that
management
deals
with
its
employees,
given
the
fact
that
they're
unionized,
even
though
we
have
the
merit
system
rules
which
provided
a
lot
of
rights
to
our
employees
in
and
of
itself,
so
you
know
from
corp
council's
perspective,
that's
something
that
is
it's
in
transition.
N
You
know
and
sort
of
to
your
last
point,
commissioner.
Charles,
you
know
corp
council
seeks
to
be
an
independent
arbiter.
Obviously
I'm
I'm
appointed
by
the
county
executive.
You
know,
I
think
that
that's
a
function
of
what
the
county
executive
does
in
terms
of
the
focus
on
governance.
N
You
know
and
to
the
extent
that
we
can
minimize
or
eliminate
legal
issues,
it
makes
it
easier
to
govern,
but
in
order
to
govern
you
have
to
engage
all
the
other
levers
and
branches
of
county
government.
So,
to
be
honest,
when
I
came
in
the
position-
and
this
is
my
personal
opinion-
the
perspective
of
corp
council
was
that
it
had
lost
some
of
its
independence
right.
There
was.
N
There
were
concerns
that
were
communicated
to
me
that
you
know
in
some
instances
folks
were
asking
for
their
own
council,
because
they
did
not
trust
that
corp
council
was
was
being
an
independent
arbiter.
So
you
know
there
have
been
some
situations
where
I
felt
like
I
was
standing
on
a
fire
and
I
was
standing
on
a
fire
because
of
my
insistence
that
that
corp
council
be
independent
as
independent
as
it
as
it
can
be.
N
You
know-
and
this
is
part
of
the
conversation
today
where
people
say
we're-
you
know
you're,
I
you're
my
you're,
I'm
your
client
and
thus
and
such
and
such
and
and
our
response
is
always
our
client
is
oakland
county
right
and
in
order
to
get
to
certain
outcomes
that
are
in
the
best
interest
of
the
county,
we
have
to
work
with
everybody,
and
you
know
that
goes
back
to
what
I
said
in
my
opening
remarks,
about
being
a
consensus
builder
and
and
being
in
a
position
to
you
know
daily.
N
We
are
encouraging
people
to
talk.
It's
like
we're
all
in
the
same
house.
Why
aren't
we
talking
right
and
under
appreciating?
If
you
do
this
over
here?
It
may
impact
this
over
there
right
and
just
getting
people
to
the
table,
and
you
know,
for
example,
we're
very
intentional
about
trying
not
to
allow
ourselves
to
be
used
as
a
bludgeon
against
another
actor
in
county
government
or
another
branch
of
county
government.
N
Somebody
comes
and
they're
looking
for
a
certain
outcome
to
weaponize
it
against
somebody
else
in
the
house,
and
you
know,
the
advice
is
what
it
is.
There
are
ways
that
we
think
we
can
present
it
to
hopefully
get
to
conversations
to
get
to
decisions,
and
so
we
try
to
do
that.
You
know
that
was
a
long-winded
way
of
answering
your
question,
but
I'm
glad
you
asked.
B
Point
by
the
word
fair
point,
commissioner
master:
you
did
you
have
a
question.
E
No,
I
was
simply
sticking
up
for
attorneys,
oh
okay,
but
but
of
course,
but
in
the
in
the
end,
of
course,
you
are
appointed
by
and
you
do
work
for
the
executive,
and
if
the
executive
has
a
conflict
with
say
the
board
or
with
another
I
I
can
see,
there
are
possible
conflict
conflict
situations
in
which
the
corporation
council
would
unfortunately
have
to
two
sides
and
could
not
represent
both
clients
at
the
same
time
or
both
both
departments.
At
the
same
time,
this
actually
did
happen
some
years
ago.
L
N
That's
like
it,
that's
a
no
it's
a
fair
point.
You
know
situations
that
either
are
an
actual
conflict
or
present
the
appearance
of
a
conflict.
That
does
happen
you
know,
and
in
those
situations.
The
the
first
thing
that
I
would
point
out
is
that
it's
the
corporation
council's
prerogative
to
determine
that.
But
you
know
when
when
it,
when
the
elements
are
there,
we
don't
hesitate
to
point
to
a
point.
N
You
know
separate
council,
I
can
think
of
three
or
four
situations
where
we've
done
that,
and
then
we
have
to
manage
and
make
sure
that
both
sides
of
interest
are
being
represented.
We
have
to
be
careful
that
we
don't
interject
ourselves
in
a
way
that
hand
ties
either
side
of
an
issue.
I've
had
a
situation
where
corp
counsel
was
representing
the
county.
N
We
had
a
council
representing
the
prosecutor
and
then
we
had
a
council
representing
two
former
county
employees,
and
so
you
know
I
appreciate
that
and
and
so
that
I
can
point
out
the
complexity
of
those
situations.
But
you
know
we're
not
we're
not
trying
to
put
anyone
in
a
situation
where
they
don't
get
the
type
of
legal
defense
that
they
deserve,
and
and
so
when
we're
handling
these
situations
and
we're
before
court.
N
N
We
don't
have
necessarily
a
lot
on
the
budget
presentation
really
just
some
things
that
we
want
to
to
lay
down
to
to
put
in
front
of
you,
as
you
know,
as
we
move
forward
and
we'll
come
back
to
this
in
in
the
future
and
and
hopefully
have
grown
on
these
points.
But
you
know
when
you
talk
about
cuts
three
or
four
percent
for
corp
council.
All
we
have
is
people
all
we
have
is
lawyers
and
support
staff,
not
gonna,
really
save
a
lot
of
money.
N
In
terms
of
getting
to
the
three
before
three
to
four
percent
that
we
were
asked
to
give
back,
we
have
agreed
to
eliminate
a
user
support
position
and
we
have
also
agreed
to
the
elimination
of
a
ptn
position
for
basically
a
law
student
that
gets
us
pretty
much
to
three
to
three
to
four
percent.
That's
being
asked
for,
we
appreciate
mmb's
willingness
to
allow
us
to
hold
on
to
the
user
support
position
until
january
because
it
allowed
us
to
transition
in
a
new
administrative
support
supervisor.
N
So
that's
basically
the
person
that's
very
instrumental
in
helping
the
deputy
corporation
counsel
and
myself
with
the
day-to-day
operations
of
the
department.
The
person
that
we
are
going
to
lose
in
november
has
been
with
the
county
for
20
plus
years.
N
She
is
the
architect
of
our
transition
from
paper
to
paperlessness,
and
so
one
of
the
first
things
that
I
realized
upon
becoming
a
corporation
council
that
we
could
not
lose
this
woman
that
it
would
probably
bring
to
screeching
halt
all
that
we
do,
and
so
we've
been
able
to
find
her
successor
to
put
her
successor
in
position
and
have
a
a
very
thorough
transition.
That's
taking
place
right
now,
as
opposed
to
just
you
know
she
she
would.
N
She
would
have
left
at
the
end
of
last
year,
so
I
would
have
been
in
the
seat
for
maybe
three
or
four
months
before
we
would
have
immediately
had
a
crisis,
and
so
those
are
the
cuts.
N
N
We
will
never
eliminate
the
need
for
outside
counsel-
it's
just
not
possible,
but
but
we
are
a
small
shop
in
that
we
have
about
16,
17
attorneys,
six
support
staff
on
a
budget
of
three
million
dollars
and-
and
we
easily
do
hundreds-
if
not
thousands,
of
engagements
conversations
and
cases
that
we
handle
on
on
an
annual
basis.
You
know
one
of
the
things
that
we
are
also
diverting
resources
into
is
our
technology.
N
You
know
we
want
to
be
able
to
provide
data,
to
decision
makers
and
have
them
bake
that
into
the
decisions
that
they
make.
You
know
the
the
frequency
of
certain
occurrences,
the
amount
of
money
that
has
been
spent
on
certain
types
of
matters,
the
amount
of
money
that
we've
spent
on
outside
council
relative
to
certain
matters,
so
we're
trying
to
do
a
better
job
of
of
having
the
technology
and
and
expending
the
resources
we
have
to
get
better
in
all
of
those
areas.
N
So
you
know,
corp,
council
is
never
going
to
be
the
place
where
you
go
to
try
to
create
any
real,
meaningful
savings.
It's
just
not
to
the
extent
that
the
county
is
providing
services
to
taxpayers
and
there
always
be
a
need
for
corp
council
to
try
to
make
sure
that
those
services
are
provided
in
a
way
that
minimizes
exposure
to
the
county,
because
that's
really
what
we
do
and
we
do
that
in
partnership
with
risk
management.
So
I've
covered
this
first
slide
with
what
I
just
talked
about.
It's
a
look
back.
N
It
actually
includes
the
the
the
prior
fiscal
year
and
more
so
the
end
of
the
current
year.
In
that
we
think
we
hit
our
three
to
four
percent
target.
N
This
is
just
an
overview
of
our
budgeted
positions.
Again,
we
have
you
know:
23
employees
about
16,
17,
attorneys,
six
support
staff
risk
management
has.
I
think
this
is
eight
ft's.
N
We
recently
converted
the
two
ptm
positions
to
full
times
and
we
may
have
missed
something
relative
to
the
ptns
for
risk
management.
I'll.
Let
d
speak
to
that.
Yeah.
H
We
actually
our
inves.
I
have
currently
four
ptnes
that
work,
that
report
to
me
and
they're
they're
investigators,
but
some
are
under
f
under
hr
with
fringe
etc.
So
I
think
technically
I
have
two
under
risk
management,
not
zero,
but
they
essentially
split
a
one.
Frankly
less
than
one
full-time
position,
I
mean
they.
Don't
they
don't
log
that
many
hours
every
year,
but
scheduling
wise?
We
sort
of
need
to
keep
the
four
to
be
available
for
us.
So,
okay.
L
On
your
on
the
budget
sheets,
it
showed
that,
on
the
reason
why
I'm
asking
is
because
I
know
y'all
just
sat
through
the
last
one
y'all
hear
that
we
got
all
this
tech
stuff
going
on.
But
for
you
all,
it
states
the
minded
you
getting
29
and
then
for
the
rest
of
the
years.
You're
not
getting
anything
are
y'all
kind
of
solid
with
tech
and
I'm
just
asking
so
we
can
incorporate
y'all
sure
they
ask.
N
Yeah
so
we'll
see
if
that
holds,
but
what
I
can
tell
you
is
that
we
we
have
a
a
solid
foundation.
You
know
we
have.
We
have
three
years
of
paper
in
our
office
once
it's
cycled
out.
We
are
paperless.
N
So
what
we're
trying
to
do
with
our
feed
system,
which
is
you
know,
matter,
management,
request
for
assistance,
we're
trying
to
improve
the
utility
of
it,
we're
trying
to
make
it
more
intuitive
for
its
users,
both
those
that
are
requesting
assistance
and,
on
our
end,
our
ability
to
to
process
and
move
matters
electronically.
N
So
you
know,
in
other
words,
we're
trying
to
get
more
efficient,
more
effective
with
the
system
we
have
you
know,
and
so
when,
for
example,
what
are
we
asking
it
for
we're
asking
for
a
better
search
engine
right
as
opposed
to?
We
don't
have
a
search
engine
at
all.
You
know,
as
opposed
to
saying
we
don't
have
any
laptops.
No,
we
have
laptops,
we
may
we
need
one
for
a
new
attorney
right.
You
know
I
have
been
very
intentional
about
the
use
of
technology
in
the
practice
of
law.
N
I've
I
come
from
prior
stops.
Wayne
county
city,
detroit
totally
different,
more
akin
to
what
you
heard
from
the
52nd
in
terms
of
what
they
represented.
So
you
know
my
goal
is:
is
to
make
us
the
best
municipal
law
department
in
the
country
right.
In
order
to
do
that,
we
need
to
have
the
same
capabilities
that
miller,
canfield,
clark,
hill
and
others
have
in
terms
of
the
way
that
they
interact
with
outside
actors
and
the
way
that
they
interact
with
those
that
they
represent.
H
How
one
thing
affects
another
so
currently,
even
though
we
went
through
a
big
purge
of
documents
when
I
came
in
and
we
sent
a
lot
of
things
to
record
retention,
I
have
18
file
cabinets
that
are
full
of
records
that
I
need
to
maintain
for
30
years
and
I
need
those
records
to
be
able
to
be
searchable
by
a
human
being
or
electronically,
and
that's
because
we
get
foia
requests.
We
get
requests
from
the
court.
Tell
me
if
this
in
person's
ever
been
injured.
H
You
know
all
the
time
they
were
employed
at
oakland
county,
so
I
can't
have
those
at
record
retention,
because
I
simply
don't
have
the
detailed
information
to
be
able
to
pull
that
out.
So
yet
those
18
file
cabinets
take
up
space
that
probably
four
people
could
sit
in
right.
H
So
one
third
of
my
office
space
is
really
filing,
but
that
I
need
to
be
able
to
have
access
to
so
I've
requested
that
we
take
those
files
which
have
a
lot
of
sense
of
information
in
them
just
like
court
files
do
and
get
them
into
some
kind
of
searchable
database
right
and
that's,
but
that's
an
expensive
prospect,
but
the
the
pro
the
value
of
that,
of
course,
is.
We
now
have
a
whole
bunch
of
space
in
my
office
that
I
can
frankly
give
to
some
other
department
as
we're
conduct
consolidating
space.
H
So
it's
kind
of
I
mean
going.
Paperless
is
really
important
for
the
environment
and
all
that
other
stuff,
but
there's
some
just
some
practical
things
that,
I
would
say
you
know,
haven't
been
done
over
the
years
to
to
to
make
to
make
it
function
better.
Yeah.
L
C
L
I
H
I
was
here
when
I
was
a
new
attorney
and
I
joined
my
law
firm
in
2006.
The
first
thing
we
were
doing
in
2006
was
digitizing
all
our
files
and
and
and
it
caused
us
to
be
able
to
vacate
the
basement
storage
space
and
save
the
firm,
a
whole
bunch
of
real
estate
dollars
right.
So
so
yes,
it
in
the
long
term
it
makes
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
H
Aside
from
the
fact
that,
frankly,
every
time
I
go
to
those
files,
I
slightly
freak
out
that
I'm
missing
a
file
somewhere.
You
know
like,
please
just
make
sure
everything's
in
alphabetical
order,
and
you
know
I'm
not
worried
that
I'm
I've
missed
something
and
something's
sitting
in
some
other
some
other
file.
Well,.
L
Yeah
and
also
like
they
brought
up
too
the
fire
suppression
issue.
You
know
like
we,
our
buildings
right
now
are
not
in
I've,
toured
those.
H
C
N
So
key
budget
changes
for
the
first
time.
In
a
long
time
we
are
fully
staffed
in
terms
of
our
attorneys.
N
We
recently
acquired
three
new
attorneys,
one
from
the
wayne
county
prosecutor's
office,
one
from
the
prosecuting
attorney
in
genesee
county
who
actually
acts
as
a
corporation
counsel
there,
and
we
were
able
to
secure
a
senior
assistant
corporation
council
from
the
city
of
detroit
who
had
24
years
of
experience
there,
and
so
we're
very
excited
about
these.
These
new
additions
and
they've
already
come
in
and
proved
their
their
value
to
the
department.
N
You
know
going
down
to
the
last
point
on
this
page.
It
kind
of
underscores
what
I
said
relative
to
technology
in
terms
of
its
use
and
practice,
and
you
know
essentially
creating
efficiency
not
only
for
the
work
that
we
do,
but
the
delivery
of
services
and
the
sharing
of
data
with
clients,
hopefully
in
a
way
that
leads
to
better
outcomes
based
on
more
informed
decisions,
major
initiatives
for
the
coming
fiscal
year.
N
There's
already
one
that's
in
the
public
domain
where
a
lawsuit
has
been
filed,
and
that
involves
a
gentleman
by
the
name
of
juwan
dearing.
You
may
have
heard
of
him.
He
was
incarcerated
for
15
years.
Underlying
incident
was
a
fire
in
the
township
where
five
people
died,
and
so
he
has
recently
been
released
from
prison.
N
N
We've
we've
issued
rfq
we've
received
responses
and
those
responses
are
being
evaluated
secondarily
again,
relative
to
technology.
We
are
seeking
to
bolster
our
our
data
footprint.
We
are
seeking
to
create
a
hub
for
all
things:
corp
council,
that
we
hope
will
be
very
client
friendly.
N
There
may
be
informative
articles
on
issues
of
interest
or
hot
topics
that
will
be
at
this
site
and
basically
we
want
to
centralize
and
create
a
need
for
traffic
in
this
hub
that
will
further
inform
clients
that
we
serve
and
hopefully
lead
to
again
better
outcomes,
and
that's
all
we
have
so
okay.
Hopefully
that's
the
easiest
presentation
that
you'll
listen
sit
through
today.
L
B
All
right
well
welcome
to
the
water
resources,
commissioner
and
his
team.
K
There
you
go
okay,
well,
I'm
jim
nash,
water
resource.
Commissioner
leo
does
all
our
budgeting
stuff
leo
lease
he's
here.
I
have
some
of
my
folks
online
they're
not
going
to
be
here
today,
but
they
can
answer
anything
if
it
comes
up
that
I
can't
answer
it.
Steve
korth
is
my
chief
deputy
and
vara
is
my
I'm
sorry.
My
steve
is
my
chief
manager
and
vara
is
my
chief
deputy
they're
both
here,
and
I
think
I
have
at
least
one
or
two
other
folks
here.
K
So
if
I
can,
if,
if
you
need
anything,
I
can
tap
them
for
it.
So
this
is
we're
here
for
the
for
the
budget
meeting.
Of
course,
I'm
gonna
go
over
a
few
of
the
things
that
we're
doing
right
now
and
then
we
can
have
whatever
questions
are.
So
we
are
working
on
several
projects
that
are
going
to
be
looking
for
state
funding
from
the
the
new,
the
ara
money.
K
That's
already
come
through
the
legislature
and
then
this
the
bipartisan
infrastructure
bill
that's
supposed
to
be
coming,
hopefully
in
the
next
few
months
through
the
legislature.
So
we
can
start
accessing
that.
So
I'll
start
with
the
evergreen
farmington
sanitary
drain.
This
is
a
project
that
involves
about
13
communities
from
oakland
county
under
for
many
years,
we've
had
a
a
state
of
control
of
to
reduce
our
ssos.
K
In
that
system,
we
were
looking
at
a
project
that
would
have
built
up
underground
storage
pumps,
a
whole
range
of
stuff
that
would
have
cost
about
half
again
as
much
as
what
we
ended
up
doing
so
it
took
a
while
convincing
the
deq
eagle
to
to
follow
our
lead
on
this,
but
what
we're
going
to
be
doing,
instead
of
building
all
that
storage,
is
we're
going
to
be
building
we're
going
to
be
allowed
to
send
more
flow
in
a
heavy
storm
to
detroit
for
cleaning
in
exchange?
K
For
that
we're
going
to
be
building
green
infrastructure
in
the
city
of
detroit
that
will
store
about
100
million
gallons
a
year
in
storm
water,
stopping
it
from
getting
into
their
system
which
causes
flooding
all
around
detroit.
So
we
save
money
by
being
able
to
change
how
we're
doing
it.
They
save
money
by
us,
building
green
infrastructure
for
them
and
all
together
we're
all
going
to
have
cleaner
water
for
it.
K
So
that's
the
kind
of
thing
we
can
do
by
regionally
working
together
and
we're
going
to
be
requesting
about
20
million
dollars
for
this
130
million
project
from
these
state
funds.
So
the
next
one
to
that
is
the
clinton
river
water
resource
recovery
facility.
We've
been
working
on
this
plant
for
for
some
years
now,
since
we
took
it
over
after
united
water
left,
they
were
running
it
as
a
private
operation
and
we've
been
investing
money
in
this
to
to
help
the
all
the
communities
that
contribute
flow.
K
Now,
there's
13
communities
that
contribute
flow
to
this
system,
we're
going
to
be
producing
natural
gas
from
the
solids
we
treat.
We
will
eventually
be
running
the
entire
facility
off
these
natural
gas
that
we're
producing,
get
off
of
fossil
fuels
and
we're
going
to
be
requesting
20
million
dollars
towards
that
project
too.
So
again,
there's
a
lot
of
money
coming
in
that
we'll
be
applying
for
one
of
the
things
we're
working
on
right
now
is
non-point
sports
source
pollution,
meaning
storm
water.
K
In
the
george
w
district,
which
is
14
communities
that
are
in
that
districts,
bunch
of
guys
are
in
those
districts
and
we're
looking
at
17
projects,
both
there
and
across
the
county
we're
going
to
be
requesting
28
million
dollars
from
the
state
for
that
these
are
going
to
be
green
infrastructure
projects.
These
are
one
of
the
projects.
We're
looking
at
doing
would
be
putting
flow
restrictors
backflow
preventers
in
at
homes
of
people
that
are
at
low
levels
that
are
more
likely
to
flood.
K
We
want
to
make
this
a
much
larger
program
over
time,
and
this
is
a
kind
of
a
pilot
program,
we're
looking
at
right
now
and
we're
again
we're
looking
for
funding
for
that.
The
city
of
pontiac
we've
recently
got
five
million
dollars
in
principal
forgiveness
for
a
loan
that
we've
taken
out
to
do
great.
I'm
sorry
lead
lines
in
that
city,
so
this
will
allow
us
to
do
two
or
three
years
worth
of
operations
for
getting
those
lead
lines
out.
In
pontiac
they
have
about
8
000,
lead
lines.
K
Our
estimate
is
out
of
about
20
000
customers,
so
about
40
of
their
their
lines
are
led
and
so
that
five
million
dollars
will
be
spent,
and
then
we
re
rewarded
for
us.
I
mean
rewarded
back
to
us,
so
we
don't
have
to
have
the
rate
payers
pay.
For
that.
That's
a
major
thing
in
many
communities
is:
we
need
to
get
rid
of
these
late
lead
lines,
but
we
don't
want
to
put
all
that
burden
on
the
rate
payers,
because
a
lot
of
them
can't
afford
it.
K
Royal
oak
township
same
thing:
we
got
a
three
million
dollar
grant
very,
very
much
smaller
communities,
so
that
three
million
dollars
will
we're
estimating
cover
most
of
the
lead
lines
in
that
city.
We're
expecting
to
get
them
done
in
the
next
few
four
five
years.
We
have
a
20-year
timeline,
so
if
we
can
do
it,
that
would
be
about
a
quarter
of
the
timeline
that
would
normally
be
done.
So
these
are
the
kind
of
things
that
these
state
grants
can
really
really
help.
K
K
Now:
we've
we've
applied
for
the
grants
through
this
current
grant
program
and
we're
expecting
by
the
end
of
the
month
or
early
next
month,
to
hear
back
on
how
many
of
those
grants
we're
actually
going
to
get
that's
going
to
be
good
news
and
for
the
next
round
of
grants,
we'll
be
finishing
our
grant
applications
by
november
and
be
turning
them
into
the
city
for
next
year's
grant
program
and
we'll
find
out,
probably
late
spring
early
summer
about
what
grants
we
get
from
that.
So
we're
expecting
to
get
a
significant
amount.
K
We
have
a
really
good
record.
We
get.
I
couldn't
tell
you
an
exact
percentage,
but
we
get
a
good
chunk
of
the
of
the
grants
we
apply
for
we
end
up
getting
because
we're
pretty
good
at
that.
K
Nowadays,
speaking
of
grants,
we
got
a
grant
for
our
affordability
program,
we're
working
with
the
city
of
pontiac
in
the
city
of
royal
oak
township,
not
the
city,
the
township
of
royal
oak
they're,
the
two
communities
that
we
operate,
maintain
that
have
the
worst
problem
with
affordability
in
pontiac
about
35
percent
of
the
population
is
under
what
the
epa
considers
is
over
the
line
of
unaffordability
about.
K
So
that's
a
significant
number
in
in
royal
oak
township,
it's
more
like
55,
it's
that
are
above
that
affordability
line
that
the
epa
draws
so
we're
trying
to
develop
a
plan.
We've
got
a
444
thousand
dollar
grant
from
the
state
to
do
this
next
month.
At
the
end
of
next
month
september,
we'll
be
putting
our
final
report
to
the
state
and
at
the
same
time
as
leading
up
to
that
we'll
be
implementing
these
programs
as
we've
developed
them
in
pontiac
and
royal
oak
township.
K
Currently
we're
going
to
be
using
we're
going
to
be
trying
to
use
all
the
funds
we're
getting
from
the
rat
program
at
the
great
lakes
water
authority.
That's
a
program
that
uses
a
point.
Five
percent
of
all
revenue
for
this,
for
the
system
goes
to
helping
communities
with
affordability,
they've
changed
how
they've
done
it.
They
used
to
just
give
a
25
every
month,
subsidy
towards
the
bill,
now
they're
going
to
be
doing
it
more
on
a
a
defined,
tiered
assistance
program.
K
So
the
the
people
that
are
at
half
of
the
poverty
rate
or
below
we'll
be
getting
a
much
reduced
rate
from
a
50
to
100
of
poverty,
a
slightly
higher
rate
and
then
from
100
to
200
percent
of
poverty,
of
a
less
of
a
of
a
subsidy,
but
enough
to
help
people
with
their
bills.
K
So
we're
going
to
use
that
and
we're
trying
to
to
have
even
a
slightly
different,
more
generous
program
for
people
on
those
levels
of
poverty
and
we'll
be
introducing
that
in
those
two
communities,
probably
starting
the
end
of
this
month
and
through
september.
This
is
going
to
be
an
ongoing
thing.
We
created
a
a
stakeholder
group
from
the
two
communities
that
we've
been
meeting
with
for
well
over
a
year
and
a
half
we're
going
to
continue
those
meetings.
K
I
think,
we've
been
extremely
successful
in
showing
them
that
we
really
do
mean
to
make
a
system
that's
going
to
work
for
everybody
and
that
we're
going
to
be
working
with
the
communities
to
make
this
happen
over
the
next
year
or
two
as
it
develops.
We'll
also
be
lobbying
the
state
to
have
a
to
begin
a
fund
to
use
this
like
they
do
with
natural
gas
and
electricity
utilities.
You
have
an
ability
to
help
pay
for
that.
What
we're
looking
to
do
is
is
ask
the
state
to
have
a
state
fee
for
anybody.
K
That's
hooked
up
to
a
water
system
of
about
33
cents
a
month
so
about
four
dollars
a
year,
and
it
might
go
up
to
six
dollars
a
year
or
even
a
little
bit
more,
but
it
won't
ever
go
over
a
dollar
a
year.
K
For
any
particular
customer-
and
this
would
allow
us
a
fund
that
any
community
that
has
a
system
could
use
to
to
help
defray
costs,
a
lot
of
communities
have
are
quite
wealthy
in
oakland
county
and
we
don't
have
a
huge
problem
with
affordability,
but
every
community
has
people
in
it
who
can't
afford
their
bill.
So
this
would
be
able
to
help
even
the
wealthiest
communities
who
have
seniors
on
fixed
income
or
young
families
that
really
have
a
hard
time
affording
it.
So
we
want
to
build
a
program.
K
That's
going
to
be
sustainable
in
the
long
term,
has
a
has
a
connection
to
the
state,
and
that
is
really
can
operate
through
the
whole
state
and
especially
oakland
county.
So
again,
this
was
a
a
grant
that
has
really
come
in
extremely
handy
from
the
state.
You
guys
kind
of
contributed
that
a
few
months
ago,
a
couple
a
couple
of
months
ago
now
with
some
more
funding
to
get
that
message
out
to
help
develop
this
program
in
the
long
term,
and
we're
really
very
happy
to
take
that,
and
we
really
appreciate
it
and
again.
K
The
communities
that
we
work
with
have
been
extremely
cooperative
and,
and
they
want
to
want
to
make
sure
that
we
can
help
them,
do
what
they
need
to
do
for
their
communities.
So
I'm
very
proud
of
what
we're
doing
for
that
program.
We're
also
doing
workforce
development.
Now
everybody
is
having
a
hard
time
with
getting
new
employees
and
that's
just
kind
of
everywhere
nowadays,
especially
in
our
industry,
the
average
age
of
my
folks
that
I
feel
people
my
skilled
trades
are.
K
You
know
50s
60s,
now
they're
going
to
be
starting
to
retire
and
they
actually
are
retiring.
I
have
one
of
my
folks
have
been
in
this
office
for
46
years:
that's
retiring
next
year,
so
we
have
great
employees
and
we
need
more
so
we're
doing
a
lot
of
outreach,
we're
doing
internships
for
the
first
time
ever.
Oakland
county
has
an
in
I'm
sorry
an
apprenticeship
program.
K
We've
just
started
that
my
office
has
the
first
two
apprenticeships
in
the
county
and
they're
at
our
treatment
plant
in
pontiac
and
I'm
they're
they're
doing
great
stuff
already.
We
we
started
a
job
shadowing
program
where
we
invite
anybody
interested
to
to
visit
with
us
for
a
day
visit
our
facilities
talk
to
our
managers
out
of
the
14
people.
We've
already
had
three
people
that
we've
hired-
that's
20,
that's
more
than
20,
so
we
feel
really
good
about
this.
We,
we
are
encouraging
young
people
to
come
to
us
and
encouraging
you
know.
K
People
have
been
in
their
careers
that
we're
a
great
place
to
work,
and
so
I
feel
very,
very
good
that
we're
doing
this
and-
and
we
hope
that
the
other
operations
in
the
county
will
start
having
apprenticeships
too,
because
we
have
lots
of
skilled
trades
that
are
that
are
working
for
the
county
one
way
or
another,
and-
and
it
would
be
great
so
I
I
feel
very
good
that
hr
and
the
administration
is
cooperating
very
well
with
us
on
these
things
and
we
need
employees
we're
just.
K
We
really
need
employees,
so
we
look
forward
to
working
with
the
the
county
on
these
things
as
we
go
too
and
finally,
we
have
our
our
project.
I've
brought
this
here
before
we
are
looking
to
off
load.
Five
very
old
buildings
that
we
have
that
are
inefficient,
that
are
costing
us
a
tremendous
amount
and
build
a
leed
certified
platinum,
we're
hoping
for
a
building
on
campus.
K
That
would
allow
us
to
consolidate
all
these
offices
that
are
spread
around
the
county
and
have
it
here
the
bulk
of
that
office,
the
orange
part
would
be
for
offices
and
the
and
the
yellow
part
is
going
to
be
for
all
our
equipment.
Right
now
we
have
a
very
crowded
garages
that
we
every
morning
it's
a
struggle
getting
our
trucks
in
and
out
of,
and
it's
a
safety
issue
also
and
plus,
whenever
you're
leaving
equipment
outside
that
cuts,
the
lifeban
of
that
equipment.
K
K
This
is
something
that
we've
been
working
on
for
some
time
with
the
administration
with
with
a
wide
range
of
folks,
and
we
believe
that
this
is
something
that
really
have
a
payback
we're
expecting
in
the
first
three
years
between
selling
these
buildings
and
the
savings
we'll
have
on
utilities,
we're
looking
at
almost
10
million
dollars,
we'll
be
saving
just
in
that
first,
three
or
four
years.
So
we're
looking
to
do
this
in
the
long
term.
K
Again,
this
fits
in
with
the
the
the
what
this
the
county
is
looking
to
do
is
become
much
more
efficient
as
we
go
on
as
to
make
sure
all
our
facilities
are
as
leed
certified
and
as
efficient
as
they
can
be.
That's
what
we
want
to
do
in
the
long
term,
and-
and
so
this
is,
this
is
part
of
our
long
term
process
that
we're
we're
going
through
to
make
this
the
best
system
we
can
be.
So
that's
it
for
me
and
I'm
here
for
any
questions
we
can
answer.
K
B
Okay,
I'll
open
it
up
to
the
oh,
I
do
have
one
buzzed
in
it's,
probably,
commissioner,
charles
who
always
does
it
the
right
way.
G
G
Every
meeting
I
seem
to
go
to
jim
nash
is
a
part
of
it,
whether
it's
parks
or
water,
affordability
and
everything
in
between,
but
I
did
want
to
follow
up.
We
talked
about
trucks
from
southville
driving
to
wherever
did
you
get
a
chance
for
washing
for
washing
yeah?
Did
you
get
a
chance
to
look
into
that,
and
if
so,
is
there
any
yeah.
K
By
folks
we're
going
to
be
looking
in
to
make
contracts
with
some
of
the
other
lawn
laundromats.
I'm
sorry
car
washes
in
our
area
and
there's
several
not
very
far
at
all.
So
I
think
they
they've
already
reached
out-
and
I
haven't
really
heard
in
the
past
week
or
so,
but
I
know
they've
already
reached
out
and
will
be
doing
contracts
so.
G
B
Just
the
little
things
you
know:
that'll
save
gas
save
time
I
think
so.
Yeah,
that's
awesome.
Anybody
else
have
questions.
Commissioner,
kowal.
C
K
On
that,
I
I
think,
did
we
already
put
that
this
year's
I'm
not
sure
if
we
have
already,
but
I'm
not,
I
know
we
were
working
on
it.
Well
again,
we
do
this
every
year
with
our
facilities,
I
think
we
have
38
or
more
facilities.
I
know
we
do
that
every
year
in
ours
and
since
that
first
one
we
did,
we
we've
done
at
least
one
more
on
all
of
them.
So,
okay,
I
know
they've
reached
out
to
everyone
that
we
did
last
time
and
I
think
they
pretty
much
covered.
K
C
Go
check
the
website
just
want
to
make
sure
we
don't
have
any
midland
type
disasters
here.
So.
E
I
mean
my
mother,
I'm
from
midland
and
my
mother
lives
in
midland
and
you
drive
by
sanford,
formerly
sanford
lake,
now
the
tidibawasi
river.
You
know,
I
think
that
would
be
a
very
bad
thing.
K
And
I
can
tell
you
we
when,
when
you
there's
two
things
we
look
for
is
likelihood
of
failure
and
consequences
of
failure.
Yeah,
there
were
a
couple
that
that
not
ours
but
other
folks
that
they
had
some
issues
that
that
we
talked
to
them
about,
but
they
were
on
such
a
place
that
they
had
the
only
thing
that
water
would
go
to
is
some
woods
and
it
wouldn't
affect
anything
any
structures
or
anything
like
that.
K
E
A
Yeah
hi,
you
had
mentioned
the
natural
gas
and
I
know
we've
touched
on
this
offline,
but
could
you
have
you
been
able
to
reach
out
or
do
you
have
regular
conversations
with
dte
and
how
you
could
do
things
with
that?.
K
Well,
in
terms
of
using
the
gas
off-site
because
we're
already
using
it
we're
using
some
of
it,
pardon
me
to
to
run
the
facilities
of
the
of
the
process
that
actually
takes
it
out
of
the
solids.
So
we're
already
doing
that
part
with
what
we
have
steve.
Do
you
know
if,
if
there's
anything
that
we've
reached
out
to
d-e-t-e.
B
A
Yeah
right
now
we're
pretty
much
the
majority
of
the
gas
that
we
produce
we
use
internally,
I
don't
know
if
the
volume
that's
generated
is
enough
to
make
it
worthwhile,
but
that's
something
certainly
that
we're
going
to
investigate
as
now
that
the
system's
fully
operated.
K
So
the
right
now,
as
I
said,
we're
using
it
in
that
process
that
we're
we're
getting
it
out
of
the
solids
to
to
make
that
happen
to
run
the
the
boilers
and
things
like
that
I
would
like,
and
we
we
are
on
still
unfortunately
flaring
some.
K
So
I
want
to
make
an
end
to
that
as
soon
as
we
can
and
use
it
on
campus
for
other
things,
there's
potential
for
using
it
for
for
us
to
make
energy
itself
to
to
create
electricity
on
us
on
site,
but
I'm
not
sure
about
in
in
going
out
with
extra
that
we
could
put
out
into
the
under
the
grid
at
some
point.
There's
potential.
So
we
there
are
improvements
that
are
are
done
in
some
places.
K
Potentially
we
could
use
actual
food
waste
into
the
system
and
that's
much
more
high
volume,
high
quality
than
sewage,
because
sewage
is
partly
digested
already
and
and
food
waste
wouldn't
be.
So
it
would
be
much
more
valuable
in
terms
of
creating
methane
and
at
some
point
we
could
create
more
than
we
can
use
on
site.
Then
we
would
have
to
sell
it
to
the
grid
and
that's
when
we'd
go
out
to
dte,
but
so
as
of
now,
I
don't
think
we're
doing
that.
We're
not
that
far
ahead
into
that
process.
Yet.
A
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
I
was
also
wondering
you
talked
a
lot
about
all
these
state
grants.
What
happens
if
the
grants
don't
come
through
or
the
money
comes
in
as
less
or
the
loan
funds
are
not
adequate
and
you
talked
about
principal
replacement.
If
I
use
the
right
words,
basically
what
happens
if
you
ask
for
all
this
money-
and
you
don't
get
all
of
it,
but
can
you
still
do
your
projects
sure.
K
Please
sure
it
just
this:
what
this
does
is
saves
money
on
those
projects,
so
we
don't
really
do
anything
unless
it's
necessary.
So
it's
going
to
be
to
me:
that's
how
we're
going
to
be
approaching
this
long
term
is
is
following
those
goals
that
we've
had
and
to
make
sure
that
we
do
them
right.
I'm
not
sure
how
else
I
can
answer
that
was.
Is
that
a
good
answer
or
no?
You
want
me
to.
A
K
Well,
I
mean
we
certainly
wouldn't
turn
that
down.
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
things.
We
can
do
that
that
I've
mentioned
to
you
and
others
that
there's
potential
for
a
green
infrastructure,
tri-party
program
where
we
could
have
a
fund
that
we
would
be
able
to
spend
the
local
community
put
in
the
third
and
a
developer
or
non-profit
that
wants
to
do
a
project
can
put
in
a
third
as
demonstrations.
So
nobody
has
paid
the
full
cost,
but
we
can
show
how
effective
these
things
are
in
reducing
pollution
and
salt
and
flooding.
K
So
that's
the
kind
of
thing
that
we
could
do
we
as
as
a
as
a
organization
we
would
love
to
apply
for
for
arpa
grants
to
do
those
kind
of
projects.
If,
if
we
get
them
or
not,
you
know
I
mean,
as
I
said,
the
ones
we're
looking
for
now
are
are
smaller.
I
mean
are
just
some
of
the
projects
that
we
could
be
doing
so
there's
lots
of
ways.
K
K
There
are
other
projects
that
are
available
to
us
that
we
we
could
apply
for
grants
if,
if
you're
interested,
like
I
mentioned
that
backflow
preventer
project,
that
would
be
something
that
would
be
really
good
to
show
those
communities
how
effective
that
would
be.
A
K
I've
talked
to
the
communities
they're
very
interested
in
it
too,
and
that's
all
over
the
county.
Every
community
one
way
or
another
has
issues
with
with
storm
storm
or
storm
water,
and
you
know
even
small
communities.
The
clarkston
has
issues
in
their
downtown
that
they
could
use
that
kind
of
funding
to
do
small
projects
just
to
divert
flow
or
have
green
infrastructure.
K
We
did
a
project,
my
non-profit,
in
clarkston,
on
what
is
it
the
veterans
park
there?
We
did
a
green
infrastructure
along
the
river
and
it
looks
just
gorgeous.
So
these
things,
that's
what
I
love
about
green
infrastructure.
It's
effective
and
it
looks
nice
people
like
gardens-
and
it
just
looks
beautiful.
B
B
Just
love
that
and
you're.
K
B
I
just
want
to
interject:
you
were
talking
about
the
biosolids
and
generating
I
visited
a
biosolids
plant
in
germany
and
alongside
of
it,
they
had
a
sunflower
patch
where
they
were
growing,
fast-growing
sunflowers
and
breeding
for
faster
growing
sunflowers,
because
they
are
efficient
to
use
and
more
efficient
to
use
in
the
biosolids
plant
where
they
were
putting
corn
silage
right.
Just
the
leftover,
corn,
stalks
and
stuff.
B
K
B
G
Yeah,
I
wasn't,
I
didn't
realize
that
was
your
last
slide.
I
thought
you
had
more
and
so
page
six,
where
it
talks
about
the
public
works
building.
G
K
This
is
really
what
we
need
in
the
long
run.
As
I
said,
we
we
have
and
one
of
the
things
that's
been
going
on.
We
operate,
maintain
17
communities
for
their
water
and
sewer
services,
a
lot
of
them
we
do
billing
for,
and
we
have
at
least
we've
all
we've
brought
in
two
more
in
just
in
the
past
six
months
and
there's
there's,
I
think,
four
or
five
more
that
are
very
interested
in
that,
and
they
want
to
hire
us
to
do
that
again.
We
can
do
it.
K
We
have
efficiency,
so
we
have
we're
bigger
than
they
are
and
we
can
do
all
these
things
more
efficiently
than
they
can.
But
we
can't
do
it
right
now,
because
we
don't
have
the
space
for
people,
we
don't
have
the
space
for
the
equipment.
We
just
can't
do
it.
So
if
we
can
do
this,
we
can
we
can
help
more
communities,
be
more
efficient
in
their
dbws
and
and
make
all
our
operations
much
more
efficient
too.
So
have.
G
You
run
the
numbers
and
come
up
with
an
estimate
of
how
much
this
might
cost
to.
A
Sure
that's
the
phase
we're
in
right
now,
where
we
have
these
concepts
that
we
want
to
pursue,
and
we've
actually
partnered
with
plant
moran
to
come
up
with
some
financial
pathways
forward
and
we're
kicking
that
off
later
this
month
and
we'll
be
working
closely
with
administration
and
facilities
on
what
we
come
up
with.
G
B
But
so
so
are
you
thinking
that
we
would
be
bonding
for
this
building
or
you
know,
general
funding?
It.
A
Yeah
we're
trying
to
put
together
a
plan
and
again
with
with
fiscal's
blessing
of
some
combination
of
funds
that
we
generate
from
our
revenue
from
operating
systems
for
communities.
A
general
fund
component
is
in
the
works
as
well.
A
It
would
be
a
bonded
project
through
the
county,
a
project
that
would
go
through
facilities
for
this
county
building
and
that's
exactly
what
we're
trying
to
sort
out
in
this
next
phase.
Now
that
we've
identified
our
needs
again
we're
looking
at
the
fiscal
component
and
how
best
to
roll
that
out.
Okay,.
B
Do
you
have
any
questions?
I
don't
I
asked
one.
Actually
you
answered
one
of
my
questions
pretty
much
as
I
was
writing
it.
Your
water
bill
program
will
this
program
of
affordability,
which
you're,
starting
with
in
royal
oak,
township
and
pontiac,
going
to
migrate
across
the
county,
so
that
anyone
who
is
needs
help
no
matter
what
community
they're
in
it
will
be
available
to
them.
That's.
K
What
we're
planning
on
we
want
to
make
sure
that
this
is
available
to
everybody.
We
wanted
to
have
a
model
that
we
could
use,
and
these
again
these
are.
These
are
communities
that
have
some
of
the
most
need
in
the
county
for
these
things
and
that's
what
we
wanted
to
start
with
yeah.
So
I
the
way
I
look
at
it.
We're
gonna
make
this
as
broad
as
possible.
K
We
have
a
good
partner
in
great
lakes,
water
authority,
affordability,
group
and,
and
I
think
we
can
really
work
with
them
to
make
sure
this
is
done
right,
like
I
said,
they're
changing
their
policy,
I
think
about
by
the
end
of
next
month.
They
should
start
roll
out
the
new
program,
and
it
should
be
really
going
by
november.
K
That
will
allow
them
to
have
much
more
of
a
subsidy
depending
on
the
level
of
the
of
their
income
and
again,
that's
something.
That's
really
important.
We're
also
going
to
be
starting
a
program
to
identify
leaks
in
homes
to
to
help
people
get
plumbers,
to
fix
things
like
that.
We
want
to
we're
we're
looking
to
to
create
a
a
program
where
we
can
have
a
kind
of
a
community
coalition
that
would
partner
with
us
to
raise
funds
privately
to
to
help
people
who
have
emergencies.
K
K
K
We're
gonna
start
one
early
next
year,
but
the
whole
point
of
it
is
to
be
make
it
so
if
they,
if
they're,
if
they're
in
a
place
where
they
would
normally
be
shut
off,
we
tell
them
the
notice,
but
we
also
tell
them
all
the
different
available
resources
they
can
get
to
to
help
get
out
of
that
issue
without
getting
their
water
shut
off.
We
don't
want
to
shut
anybody's
water
off
unless
we
absolutely
have
to
if
they
can't
afford
water,
so
we're
looking
for
any
way.
K
We
can
do
that
working
with
great
lakes,
water
authority,
local
non-profits,
whatever
it
takes
to
get
this
done,
we're
going
to
make
sure
that
everybody
can
get
that
water
that
they
need
to
survive
without
breaking
their
banks.
There's
so
many
things
that
that
folks,
who
have
low
income
that
can't
afford
we
don't
want
one
of
them
to
be
water.
B
K
I
I
think
we
did
some
research
on
that
steve.
Didn't
we.
I
know
that
we
know
our
our
systems,
but
I'm
not
sure
about
the
ones
we
don't
operate.
Maintain.
A
A
So
there
is
a
placeholder
as
far
as
looking
to
the
future
and
budgeting
these
replacements,
but
there
is
a
tally
for
that,
and
I'd
be
happy
to
pull
that
up
and
and
and
get
at
the
board
and
get
it
to
you.
It's
not
a
problem.
Okay,.
E
K
Great
yeah,
it's
a
significant
problem
across
the
county
and
you
know
it's
it's
not
unusual.
That's
the
thing
we're
trying
to
make
it
so
people
can
get
those
resources.
It
really
is
important.
B
A
Yeah
we
we,
we
didn't,
we
didn't
cut
staffing.
I
know
we
made
some
modest
line
item
cuts,
but
we
actually
expanded
our
positions
because
all
the
new
customers
were
getting
jim
and
this
new
influx
of
funding
for
our
asset
management.
So
we're
currently
the
advertising.
We
have
six
vacant
engineering
positions.
We
need
to
fill
right
now,
so
it's
been
a
challenge
for
us.
So
far,.
B
K
At
okay,
so
the
the
water
main
it's
a
120
inch,
water,
main
and
10
foot
water
main,
which
are
just
massive
right
outside
the
the
water
treatment
plant
in
poor
huron
that
it
broke
right.
There
really
kind
of
right
right
next
to
the
system,
so
it
goes
across
north
of
oakland
county
at
imlay
city.
It
comes
down
to
it,
goes
actually
to
macomb
and
then
works
its
way
over
to
oakland
county.
By
the
time
it
got
to
our
area.
K
There
was
not
enough
pressure
loss
for
boil
water
noses.
We
have
great
lakes.
Water
authority
has
enough
backup
flow
that
it
could
reach
the
oakland
county
communities
before
they
were
affected
by
that
loss
of
pressure,
and
initially
great
lakes,
water
authorities
said
there
should
be
a
water
bowl
watering
notice
for
a
bunch
of
the
oakland
county
communities,
but
we
pointed
out
to
them
that
none
of
them
have
shown
that
there's
a
drop
in
pressure,
so
they
took
that
back.
K
Macomb
county
had
a
bunch
of
communities;
they
don't
have
that
that
backup
flow.
So
some
folks
in
those
communities
are
still
on
boil.
Water
notices,
the
city
of
rochester
in
oakland
county,
gets
their
water
from.
K
All
the
rest
get
it
from
oakland
county
sources,
so
they
did,
they
weren't
hit,
but
justice
that
just
rochester
hills
was
rochester
city
was,
and
I
think
I'm
not
sure
if
they're
still
on
boyle
are
they
steve.
K
And
they're
also
doing
inspections
going
down
that
pipe
to
make
sure
there's
not
issues
down
farther
and
they
have
to
they.
They
were
just
on
the
radio
yesterday
talking
about
it
could
be
a
while
longer
because
they
have
to
order
these
pipes.
They
don't
nobody
just
has
them
in
stock,
so
these
are
massive
pipes
that
they
have
to
rebuild.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
little
while
before
they
get
that
pipe
back
online
again,.
B
K
And
when
you're
talking
about
that
under
pressure,
that
is
just
a
staggering
amount
of
water
gosh
about
well
second
half
of
last
year
there
was
a
main
break
in
farmington
hills
where
I
live,
and
that
was
a
42
inch.
Water
main
and
I
I
went
by
it
and
it
looked
like
a
vertical
waterfall
going
up
and.
K
Yeah
that
house
was
destroyed
and-
and
that
was
a
42
inch
lens.
This
is
a
120
inch
line.
So
it's
about
six
eight
times
as
much
capacity,
because
that's
the
way
pipes
are
but
yeah
it
was.
It
was
a
massive
break
that
they're
really
going
to
investigate
thoroughly
because
they
don't
want
that
to
happen
again.
Wow
matt.
B
K
My
folks
are
working
with
the
eagle
and
the
the
folks
in
wixom,
but
this
is
this
is
an
issue
that
doesn't
affect
any
of
our
facilities
directly,
so
we
help
whatever
communities
need
help
the
guy
that
runs
the
system
in
in
wickson
used
to
work
work
for
me,
so
I
I
know
quite
well,
and
my
staff
does
and
we've
been
communicating
with
them
and
with
with
eagle
on
that,
this
is
gives
you
what
we
do
if
it's,
even
if
it's
not
our
stuff,
we
help
as
much
as
we
can.
B
B
K
And
when
you
remember
that
they
just
gosh
a
year
and
a
half
ago
put
a
warning
not
to
eat
the
fish
out
of
the
huron
river
because
of
pfas,
and
now
we
got
chromium.
So
that's
a
double
hit
on
that
river
and
that's
not
good.
B
Okay,
well,
if
we
don't
have
anything
else
for
the
water
commission,
water
resources,
commissioner
and
his
department
going
once
going
twice,
I
will
say
thank
you
for
coming
in
always
really
an
interesting
department
to
hear
about,
because.
B
K
E
B
With
that,
we
will
take
a
five
minute
break,
so
staff
can
set
up
for
the
parks
and
rec
department
thanks
everybody.
Thank
you,
jim
and
team
for
coming
in.
B
J
That's
right.
Well,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
think
you
all
know
me,
but
I
you
know,
I'm
a
recovering
former
board
of
commissioner
staffer.
Now
the
director
of
parks
and
recreation,
I
think
you
all
know
sue
wells
who
served
our
park
system
well
for
many
many
years
retired
in
january,
and
are
very
fortunate
to
have
the
support
of
the
two
individuals
that
are
here
with
me
today.
J
Who
is
right
now
our
interim
manager,
park
operations
and
maintenance
and
jim
has
is
a
great
example
of
the
kind
of
staff
we
have
that
serve
our
park
system
really
well
and
give
their
whole
heart
and
soul
he's
the
kind
of
the
heart
and
soul
of
the
operation
here
who
give
and
give
and
work
extra
hours
with
no
complaint
right
no
complaint,
and
you
know,
we've
got
a
whole
bunch
of
macgyver's
in
the
system.
We
figure
out
ways
to
get
the
job
done,
even
when
the
resources
aren't
there.
J
So
here
we
go,
I'm
sure
you're
all
well
aware
of
us,
but
it's
kind
of
our
obligatory
slide.
We
have
to
go
through
who
we
are.
We
have
14
county
parks,
80
miles
of
trails
and
7
000
acres
of
park,
land,
five,
golf
courses,
two
water
parks,
two
campgrounds,
three
dog
parks,
two
nature
centers
in
an
off-road
vehicle
park
and
a
partridge
in
a
pear
tree
right
in
our
recreation
programming.
J
Also,
we
have
nature
education
and
citizen
science,
adaptive
recreation,
which
you
know
we
work
to
make
sure
our
recreation
facilities
and
programming
are
accessible
for
everyone,
regardless
of
their
ability
or
age.
We
have
mobile
recreation.
I
know
you're
all
familiar
with
in
our
rap
program
and
we
have
history,
active
adult
programs,
outreach
and
special
events
and
archery.
J
J
We
have
had,
since
we
are
in
the
process
of
doing
our
update
to
our
five-year
strategic
plan
and
recreation
plan.
You
know
it's
interesting,
it's
about
60
turnover
since
the
last
time
this
was
done
so
we've
had
a
lot
of
change
on
our
parks,
commission
and
we're
taking
the
organization
in
a
bit
of
a
new
direction
as
we're
working
towards
that
master
plan.
J
We
kind
of
focused
in
on
four
core
values
to
incorporate
in
the
plan:
environmental
sustainability
and
climate
resilience,
reducing
barriers
and
increasing
opportunities
for
participation,
especially
amongst
underrepresented
communities
and
populations,
improving
public
health
and
well-being
and
fiscal
responsibility
and
organizational
excellence.
So
parks
is
all
has
had
key
performance
indicators
for
a
long
time,
but
as
we're
starting
to
move
towards
these
new
priorities.
We're
going
to
be
updating
and
providing
new
data
points
to
measure
those
objectives.
J
It's
a
rather
large
organization.
We've
got
84
full
and
part-time
year-round
professionals,
16
unfilled,
seasonal
staff.
We
have
686
filled
and
270
unfilled
and
more
than
200
dedicated
volunteers
who
support
the
organization
and
then
my
management
team.
This
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
them
all,
but
I
just
want
to
share.
We've
got
a
great
group
of
people
and
we
work
together
in
a
very
collaborative
way.
Come
together
share
thoughts,
opinions,
sometimes
degrees,
sometimes
don't,
but
it's
a
it's
an
organization
that
really
is
truly
a
team.
J
J
So
you
know
the
voters
approved
that
by
76.3
percent
and
collections
are
projected
to
increase
due
to
the
situation,
the
real
estate
market.
We
also
are
supported
by
user
fees
and
we've
had
some
decent
growth
and
reuser
fees
in
the
last
few
years.
Our
golf
revenues
have
gone
up
quite
a
bit
thanks
to
the
actions
of
our
parks.
J
Commission
who
conducted
a
study
with
the
support
of
a
consultant
who's,
an
expert
in
the
field,
and
really
we
were
able
to
change
our
fee
structure
to
be
more
competitive
and
realistic,
and
our
goal
there
with
golf
as
long
as
as
well
as
the
other
kind
of
limited
benefit
features,
is
to
make
enough
profit
that
it
pays
for
itself
and
that
we
can
reinvest
back
into
it
and,
for
the
most
part,
almost
all
of
our
golf
courses.
You
know
reach
that
goal.
J
Every
year
now
campgrounds
a
lot
of
increased
activity
there,
an
extra
300
000
dollars
in
revenue
and
just
the
vehicle
park
entry
permits
we've
had
in
growth
about
270
thousand
dollars.
J
This
is
just
a
picture
of
our
expenditures.
Parks
is
interesting
because
of
the
way
our
accounting
is
done
as
a
enterprise
fund
within
the
county
budget,
we
have
to
account
for
depreciation
as
an
expense.
However,
it's
a
non-cash
expense,
so
it
kind
of
inflates
the
picture
of
how
much
money
we're
spending
throughout
the
year,
because
at
the
end
of
the
year
it
washes
out,
and
then
we
we
back
it
out.
J
So
we
also
include
within
our
operating
budget
our
our
plan
for
how
much
money
we're
going
to
put
into
our
equity
our
our
fund
balance
every
year.
So
what
you
see
here
is
about
5
million
plus
over
what
we're
actually
likely
to
expend
because
of
those
two
factors,
the
major
expenditure
changes
that
are
in
your
budget
there
we
did
have
one
thing
I
want
to
note
I
put
in
the
email
to
all
of
you
with
the
support
of
the
board.
J
We
we
were
able
to
you
know,
change
our
contract
with
the
sheriff's
office,
which
did
accrue
some
savings
to
us.
However,
in
the
process
of
getting
this
budget
prepared,
apparently
it
was
entered
in
twice,
so
we
do
need
a
budget
amendment
when
you're
doing
your
wrap-up.
If
you
could
put
that
back
in
please,
because
I
really
shouldn't
be
trusted
with
a
gun
in
a
badge
out
at
our
parks,
we've
had
increases
with
salary
and
fringe,
and
that's
you
know
basically
reflecting
the
general
salary
increase
that
is
part
of
the
budget.
J
J
So
we
were
able
to
start
to
fill
some
of
those
positions
that
have
been
empty
for
a
long
time
in
there
and
a
lot
of
front
line
jobs
like
groundskeepers
and
maintenance
and
mechanics
and
type
of
thing,
and
then
we're
also,
you
know,
made
some
changes
with
our
staffing
to
reflect.
The
changing
priorities
and
goals
of
our
commission
sue
was
so
great
that
we
had
to
replace
it
with
two
people
and
we
have
elevated
up
environmental
sustainability.
J
As
a
chief
in
our
organization,
we
have
a
pending
reorg
that
the
our
parks
commission
approved
to
create
a
dei
coordinator
position
for
for
parks,
and
so
that
is
reflecting
there
and,
of
course
you
know,
seasonal
staffing
needs
and
compensation
increases
there
as
well,
and
so
we
also
had
a
change
that
really
doesn't
necessarily
have
like
a
financial
impact.
J
But
the
way
we
were
charging
out
natural
resources
management,
we
were
charging
it
out
to
our
parks
as
a
kind
of
on
their
bottom
line,
and
we've
decided
that
that's
kind
of
an
organizational
a
responsibility
to
maintain
you
know
the
natural
resources
in
our
parks
and-
and
so
that
is
reflected
in
the
budget
as
well.
So
we
we
put
250
000
into
special
projects,
and
this
is
really
because
throughout
the
year
we'll
get
requests
to
provide
matching
funds
and
to
help
make
a
one-time
expenditure
project
happen.
J
I
just
had
a
conversation
with
a
commissioner
about
one
earlier
today,
so
it's
better
for
us
to
budget
for
it
and
kind
of
limit
ourselves
than
to
wait
and
see
what
comes
along
contracted
services.
There
are
a
number
of
things
as
we're
moving
forward
with
this
five-year
plan
that
we
may
be
needing
to
tackle,
including
you
know,
getting
a
carbon
emissions
assessment
for
all
of
our
facilities.
If
we're
going
to
try
to
contribute
towards
the
county's
carbon
objectives
and
goals-
and
we
are
struggling,
as
you
all
know,
with
our
staffing.
J
So
we
may
want
to
look
at
some
consulting
to
help
us
with
a
long-term
strategy
to
address
address
that
systemic
issue.
This
is
a
few
examples
of
how
we
use
the
money
and
then
design
fees
as
well.
You
know
with
the
funding
additional
funding
we
have
to
be
able
to
address
our
long-term
capital
needs,
plus
the
change
with
the
five-year
plan
and
the
potential
of
arpa
money
coming
down
our
road.
J
So
just
a
picture
of
how
the
millage
has
impacted
our
operations
and
the
first
year
of
the
increased
millage.
Our
revenues
increased
by
approximately
8
million
dollars,
which
allowed
us
to
essentially
double
the
amount
of
funding
that
we
were
putting
into
our
capital
improvements
and
maintenance
and
natural
resources
management
during
the
process
of
preparing
for
that.
J
But
in
making
the
case
for
that
millage
increase,
we
identified
more
than
20
million
dollars
in
deferred
maintenance
projects
and
they're,
not
always
the
most
exciting
things
but
they're
the
things
that
we
all
need
in
order
to
enjoy
a
park,
whether
it's
you
know,
roadways
that
aren't
crumbling
and
bathrooms
that
are
operating
and
roofs
that
aren't
leaking
and
so
we're
starting
to
tackle
that
as
this
money
is
coming
in,
we've
increased
our
capital
equipment.
We
did
the
1.14
million
dollars
in
park
grants
to
local
communities.
Thank
you.
We.
J
B
J
Is
once
a
politician
always
apologizes,
and
then
we've
also
increased
our
footprint
in
supporting
communities
with
invasive
species,
control
which
we
do
through
contractors,
and
we
do
that.
We
don't
do
it
as
a
grant.
We
do
the
work
ourselves
or
through
a
contractor,
so
we
had
more
than
I
think
20
projects
that
we
did
this
year
close
to
30
projects.
We
did
here
so
we'll
continue
to
be
doing
that
and
supporting
communities
with
their
natural
resources
needs,
and
then
we've
budgeted
for
an
increase
in
recreation
programming
and
outreach.
J
Just
as
an
fyi.
One
of
the
requirements
of
the
millage
was
to
provide
free
vehicle
permits
for
seniors
veterans,
individuals
with
permanent
disabilities
and
that
works
out
to
approximately
166
thousand
dollars
in
loss
of
revenue.
J
But
overall,
in
terms
of
that
picture
for
fy21,
we
added
six
million
dollars
to
our
our
equity,
our
our
savings
and
really
it
was
a
a
a
very
important
thing
that
was
approved
for
the
organization
because
we
were
starting
to
enter
into
some
fiscal
dire
straits
where
we
had
an
operating
deficit
rather
than
surplus,
and
we
were
drawing
down
our
equity
rather
than
adding
to
it.
So
it
was,
it
was
really
critical
for
parks
that
we
received
that
millage
increase.
J
So
I
I've
been
before
you
many
times
talking
to
you
about
summer,
staffing
levels
this
has
been
an
enormous
issue,
will
continue
to
be
an
enormous
issue
for
oakland
county
parks.
We
are
heavily
reliant
upon
seasonal,
part-time
staff,
many
times
younger
folks,
sometimes
older.
Folks,
that
support
our
park
system
and
beginning
especially
last
year
had
major
impacts
to
our
operations
due
to
the
inability
to
staff
up
and
recruit
staff.
So
we
closed
the
waterford
oaks
water
park
entirely.
Last
year
we
had
to
reduce
hours
at
the
other
water
park
and
start
late.
J
Pretty
much.
Every
aspect
of
our
operations
were
impacted
by
lack
of
staffing,
so
we
try
to
get
ahead
of
that
this
year,
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
support
of
the
incentives
that
we
were
able
to
offer.
I
could
tell
you
almost
immediately.
We
noticed
a
difference.
The
trajectory
we
were
on
in
april
before
they
were
approved
for
lifeguards,
especially,
was
pretty
bad,
and
within
two
weeks
we
doubled
the
number
of
people
who
applied
for
the
lifeguard
positions.
L
B
C
J
Welcome
cheers
during
the
civilian
house,
but
jim
jim
has
his
heart
and
soul
is
all
supported
in
that
waterford
oaks.
Water
park
and
I
know,
he's
pleased
his
partner
the
first
time
in
three
years
we
were
able
to
open
the
water
park
there
great
day.
It
was
a
great
day
very
much
appreciated
by
the
people
who
enjoy
the
water
park,
and
you
know
we
had
some
limited
hours
as
we
started
off.
J
That
was
as
much
a
reflection
of
not
being
open
for
several
years
and
needing
to
train
up
an
entirely
new
crew
of
lifeguards,
but
by
mid-july
we
were
able
to
open
both
water
parks.
Five
days
a
week
really
was
a
great
team
effort.
J
We
actually
ended
up
with
more
people
wanting
to
work
at
waterford
than
red
oaks,
so
we
we
transported
the
kids
from
waterford
to
red
oaks
and
we
shared
staff
and
made
sure
that
we
could
make
things
happen
for
the
public
there
and
overall,
we
really
were
able
to
avoid
major
impacts
on
the
operations
and
services
that
the
public
see
with
really,
I
would
say,
the
exception,
being
kind
of
the
concession
food
service
retail
end
of
our
operations,
which
we
made
a
decision
early
on
in
the
year
that
that's
not
part
of
our
core
function
and
core
need
and
to
focus
on
hiring
up
to
make
sure
we
can
open
the
doors
and
allow
people
to
enjoy
just
the
recreation
services
we
have
to
provide.
J
So
so
it's
good
news
overall
and
I
think,
a
big
success.
It's
thanks
to
your
support
and
a
a
huge
campaign,
an
effort
on
the
heart
of
our
staff
that
started
in
january
major
marketing
dollars
spent.
I
think
we
did
14
job
fairs,
where
we
were
able
to
hire.
People
on
the
site
and
and
hr
was
very
helpful
and
patient
with
us
as
we
kept
trying
to
push
them
to.
J
You
know
to
change
some
things
to
see
if
we
could
bring
in
more
warm
bodies
into
the
into
the
park
system.
So
it's
not
it's
not
a
problem.
That's
going
to
be
easily
solved,
it's
kind
of
a
systemic
problem
that
we
have,
but
I
do
want
to
thank
you
for
your
support
of
those
measures
and
we'll
be
back
again
asking
you
for
some
other
changes
that
will
allow
us
to
adapt.
J
That
plan
includes
the
incorporation
of
three
urban
parks
into
our
park
system
and
major
investments
in
the
catalpa,
waterford
and
red
oaks,
as
well
as
some
grants
to
royal
oak
township
and
hazel
park.
So
look
forward
to
presenting
that
to
you
soon.
We
have
a
also
in
the
works.
J
The
acquisition
and
development
of
turtle
woods
nature
preserve
in
the
city
of
troy.
It's
a
partnership
with
the
school
district,
sixth
river's
land
conservancy,
who
are
kind
of
acting
as
an
intermediary.
J
I
think
we
brought
the
first
steps
of
that
purchase
through
economic
development
and
a
letter
of
intent.
We
had
to
purchase
or
attempt
to
purchase
a
piece
of
property
to
get
us
better
roadway
access
to
for
the
public
to
enjoy
the
park.
So
that's
the
first
step
and
then
I
think
next
year
we
kind
of
anticipate
coming
forward.
The
dnr
trust
fund
will
pay
for
the
lion's
share
of
this.
This
project,
at
this
acquisition
and
as
a
nature,
preserve
the
development
of
it
will
not
be.
J
You
know
it
won't
be
a
high
cost
project
and
with
the
support
of
congresswoman
haley
stevens,
we
have
an
earmark.
That's
worked
its
way
halfway
through
congress
for
2.26
million
dollars
to
do
basically
a
total
renovation
and
improvement
and
reimagining
of
our
farmers
market.
So
that
is
exciting
and
we're
very
hopeful.
That's
going
to
come
together.
We
just
need
congress
to
be
functional,
so
I'm
going
to
put
money.
J
For
the
best
yeah,
okay,
and
so
that
was
the
finalization
of
our
five-year
recreation
and
strategic
plan
and
which
will
then
include
updates
to
park
plans
for
each
one
of
our
parks.
It's
kind
of
our
future
ahead
and
that's
my
spiel,
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions.
C
C
O
We,
what
we
did
was
we
were
able
to
do
a
swim.
C
It
was
ages
from
you,
know,
three-year-old
to
probably
12
year
olds,
and
it
was
just
incredible
to
see
the
kids
come
out
to
the
pool
and
there
was
one
kid
that
just
stood
up
not
was
scared
to
even
touch
his
foot
into
the
pool
and
he
he
was
able
to
swim,
and
it
was
just
what
a
great
thing
to
you
know
provide
and-
and
we
went
it
was
a
eight
day
program.
C
So
it
was
an
hour
monday
through
thursday
at
waterford
oaks,
and
then
they
did
a
graduation
on
the
last
day
and
we
invited
all
families
to
come
back
and
the
rec
staff
did
a
great
job
doing
a
ceremony
and
they
all
got
certificates,
and
it
was
just.
It
was
a
lot
of
fun
for
them
and
a
lot
a
lot
of
fun
for
the
family,
so
their
their
parents
came
to
the
pool
too
with
them.
C
L
I
think
that
was
a
great.
I
was
actually
happy
that
you
all
thought
of
that,
especially
with
our
shortage
on
the
lifeguards
to
just
assist
the
kids
to
learn
and
then
from
a
urban
city
and
usually
just
from
a
cultural
standpoint.
A
lot
of
us
don't
learn
how
to
swim.
So,
thank
you,
yeah.
Thank
you.
It
was
awesome
to.
J
C
J
E
It's
gonna
ask
about
his
dog.
No,
I
know
about
my
dog.
So,
mr
ward,
I
have
to
say
that
the
golf
at
least
the
fee
structure
that
you
put
down
is
up
to
par.
Okay,.
J
B
I
know,
but
they
did
a
very,
was
yeah.
No,
but
some
of
the
parks
I
mean
golf
can
be
really
expensive
too.
So
if
you
lower
the
fees,
then
maybe
you
get
more
golfers.
I
mean
that's
one
other
strategy,
but
I'm
just
asking
which,
which
did
we
use?
Will
you
raise
the
fees
and
that
didn't
hurt
that
didn't
hurt.
J
Our
revenues
are
up,
participation
is
up
overall,
the
consultant
did
a
very
good
job
of
looking
at
other
courses,
what
they're
charging
and
give
us
some
pretty
solid
objectives
in
terms
of
metrics
to
hit
cool.
I
see
our
chairman
wanted.
E
Yeah,
commissioner
yeah
just
we
raised
the
fees
after
we
had
the
golf
consultant
and
he
did
a
fine
job,
we're
breaking
even
all
the
courses
except
one,
that's
the
one
in
my
community.
E
So
we
need
to
work
on
that
and
we're
in
the
process
of
doing
that.
I
also
just
wanted
to
say
I
I'm
thrilled
that
chris
came
on
board
at
parks.
He's
done
a
fabulous
job,
not
that
dan
stensel
didn't
do
a
fabulous
job,
but
but
chris
has
gone
through
a
lot
in
that
he's
now
trying
to
get
arp
funding
for
some
of
our
parks,
which
is
going
to
be
a
real
plus
and
if
you
haven't
had
the
opportunity
to
see
the
parks
that
chris
is
investigating
and
taking
over.
E
You
ought
to
try
because
it's
they're,
really
nice
and
I
think
it'll
be
really
nice
and
the
other
thing
that
chris
has
done
since
he's
been
here
in
such
a
short
time
is
he's
lost
two
of
his
key
people
with
mike
donald
and
phil
castonia
and
he's
had
to
replace
them
got
a
great
person
stepping
in
and
covering
for
phil
and
jim,
because
jim
jim
is
the
parks.
E
J
B
G
I
wanted
to
ask,
or
at
least
bring
it
to
the
commissioner's
attention
that,
because
I'm
very
bullish
on
dog
parks,
until
I
had
a
good
conversation
with
chris
about
them,
in
fact,
studies
have
shown
that
they're
actually
the
reason
for
most
of
our
sheriff's
phone
calls
at
our
dog
parks,
and
so
now
I'm
leaning
away
from
I'm,
not
leaning
in
anymore
on
dog
parks
like
I
was
so.
I
just
want
us
to
keep
that
in
mind.
The
other
thing
is
down
at
beechwoods.
I
think
that's
what
we
where
we
were
together.
G
G
You
didn't
have
to
share
the
golf
cart
and
we
saw
a
deer
carcass.
I
mean
it
was
very.
G
G
A
tick
on
my
golf
cart
seat,
which
I've
never
seen
a
tick
in
real
life
irl,
and
I
bring
that
up.
Just
because
to
your
point,
both
of
your
points,
chris
really
does
listen.
He
hit
the
ground
running.
I
was
able
to
tell
my
residents
down
at
the
southern
end
that
we're
fighting
for
them
to
have
access
to
good
natural
resources
and
beechwood
is
pretty
much
a
diamond
and
I'm
just
really
excited.
What's
what's
coming
forth,
and
you
know
my
husband's
like
what
can
we
do
with
the
rouge?
G
G
I
think
mcgillivray
has
the
the
calendar,
but
it's
basically
the
first
wednesday
after
finance.
I
know
it's
a
long
day,
but
you
know
visit
us
every
now
and
again.
Commissioners.
B
I
I
enjoyed
our
little
excursion
through
the
parks,
the
other
night
too.
That
was
a
lot
of
fun.
I
did.
I
will
say
I
left
my
sunglasses
there
at
like
8
30
at
night
right
and
I
text
chris
and
I'm
mad
at
myself
and
I'll
be
darned
by
the
next
morning.
They
were
at
the
southfield
wreck
center
and
I
could
go
pick
them
up.
I
mean
I
thought
that
was
pretty
special
extra.
B
B
In
my
community
you
gave
us
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
a
new
city
park
that
we're
building
and
I'm
on
the
south
west
end
of
the
county,
you're
talking
about
beechwood,
that's
over
there
in
southfield,
and
I
I
think
that's
really
good
and,
as
I
have
sat
and
listened
to
folks
last
week
in
the
board
meeting
screaming
at
us
about
how
transit
isn't
gonna,
you
know
I
live
in
an
area
somebody
got
up
literally
and
said.
B
Well,
I
live
in
springfield
oaks
and
we
have
300
acres
of
parks
that
belong
to
the
city
and
we
and
I'm
thinking
yeah
and
you
also
have
springfield
oaks
park
and
none
of
that
property
is
paying
taxes.
And
yet
you
want
to
tell
me
that
you
know
the
rest
of
us
can't
have
public
transit
because
you're
not
going
to
use
it.
I
look
at
the
two
things
very
similarly,
we
live
in
a
county
where
the
economic
levels
are
very
diverse.
B
It's
just
it's
a
big
big
place
and
it's
important,
I
think,
for
us
to
think
holistically
about
our
population
and
try
and
serve
everybody
out
of
these
organizations
and
these
or
as
many
people
as
possible
with
all
of
these
initiatives.
So
I
I
just
was
thinking
with
transit.
You
know
I've
been
fighting
for
transit
and
you're,
not
transit
your
parks,
but
we
also
don't
have
parks
out
where
I
am
that
we've
been
paying
for.
B
So
I
I
like
the
equity
lens
that
you're
taking
on
all
of
this
and
trying
to
get
more
oakland
county
parks
dollars
into
areas
where
they
haven't
serviced.
Before
I
love
the
golf
courses,
you
know
I
have
great
memories
on
some
of
the
very
northern
golf
courses
in
this
county,
but
there's
more
to
parks
than
the
five
golf
courses
we
started
out
with.
So
I
really
appreciate
the
work
that
you're
doing
to
really
spread
it
into
all
of
these
different
communities
in
the
ways
that
suits
the
communities,
what
they
really
want.
L
Commissioner
powell,
I
was
just
going
to
say
thank
you
chris,
you
know,
chris
has
helped
me
throughout
just
being
a
commissioner
when
I
got
here
from
understanding
things
pointing
out
stuff
walking
me
through
things
and
then
when
he
became
a
parks
leader
he
immediately
reached
out,
and
we
talked
and
he's
like
you
know.
How
can
I
help
pontiac
pontiac
has
been
overlooked
for
years.
We
know
that
right,
and
so
we
do
have
a
current
partnership
going
and
he
did
get
some
grant
dollars
for
us.
L
So
just
thank
you
just
thank
you
for
everything,
because
this
commissioner
always
has
depended
on
chris
for
just
just
to
even
from
an
open
mind
on
things
to
from
an
advice.
Standpoint
too
so,
and
he
does
advise
for
me
to
make
the
final
decision
he
has
not
pushed
it
to
where
it's
for
his
only
on
his
own
enjoyment
and
whatever
I
decide.
So
just
thank
you
for
that.
Thank
you
all
right.
That's.
E
Just
one
other
thing:
we
do
have
a
problem
that
we're
we're
looking
at
and
trying
to
tackle
that
problem,
and
that's
our
our
conference.
Centers
at
the
golf
courses
they've
been
losing
under
the
system
that
we're
working
so
chris
is
in
the
process
of
looking
at
some
other
ways
that
we
can
run
them
so
that
it's
at
least
break
even
they're
important
to
have
at
the
golf
courses
for
golf,
outings
and
stuff
like
that.
But
our
our
whole
process
with
the
catering
companies
that
are
under
contract
with
us.
E
J
Good,
thank
you
and
I
just
want
to
correct
one.
I
don't
want
people
to
have
the
impression
our
dog
parks
aren't
safe.
We
do
get
it's
in
the
off
season.
That's
the
number
one
cause
we
get.
Of
course
that's
where
the
number
one
activity
is
as
well,
that's
cool.
Yes,
we
certainly
get
more
calls
in
some
of
the
more
active
areas
of
the
park
system
this
time
of
year.
So
you
know
it's
been
a
learning
curve
for
me.
Joining
parks
and
kind
of
working
through
the
air.
B
My
dog
doesn't
do
well
in
the
doctor.
I
don't
take
my
dog
to
the
dog
park
because
he,
I
don't
take
my
dog
to
the
dog
park
because
he
doesn't.
He
doesn't
behave
well
around
other
dogs.
You
know
he
just
wants
to
do
his
thing
and
it's
not
good
so
yeah,
okay,
anybody
else
got
anything
for
parks.
We
love
you
parks.
You
know
that.
So
all
right.
Thank
you.
They're.
B
Okay,
so
human
resources-
this
says
410.
B
Okay,
so
we
are
welcoming
the
human
resources
department
and
their
sorta
kinda
sorta.
Well,
that's
what
it
says
on
my
paper,
but
you
know
you
can
talk
about
whatever
you
want
to
talk
about
and
so
we'd
ask
you
today
to
introduce
yourselves
and
the
folks
you
brought
with
you
and
then
go
through
your
presentation
and
I'm
sure
we'll
have
some
questions
when
you're
finished.
We
might
have
some
questions
while
you're
going
through
it
too.
That's
perfect.
Okay!
So
welcome.
P
First,
thank
you
chairman
markham
and
committee
members.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
come
in
and
present
I'm
rudy
hobbs,
deputy
county
executive
and
to
my
right.
P
And
so
we're
here
to
kind
of
talk
a
little
bit
walk
you
through
our
dei
budget
presentation.
P
I
think
it's
important,
though,
before
we
even
begin
the
presentation,
I
just
kind
of
want
to
address
a
couple
of
things
just
kind
of
right
off
the
top,
so
there's
been
a
there's,
been
a
shift
in
thought
in
terms
of
how
you
know
we
approach
our
dei
budget.
I
think
that
you
know.
Historically,
you
know
you
have
found
that
the
dei
budget
was
housed
in
our
hr
budget,
the
county
executive
after
conversation
with
leadership
team
and
then
also
conversations
with
we're
members
of
the
commission.
P
I
think
that
we've
made
a
decision
at
this
point
to
move
the
dei
budget
to
its
online
item,
and
then
you
will
see
the
dei
budget
under
the
county.
Executive's
budget,
so
you'll
see
that
amendment
at
some
later
date.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
was
clear
right
off
the
top
for
commissioners,
as
we
move
through.
P
L
For
the
for
the
people,
listening
for
the
record.
P
So
with
that
being
said,
I
would
like
to
kind
of
jump
through
our
presentation
and
kind
of
you
know,
walk
you
through.
You
know
a
number
of
the
things
that
you
know
are
our
areas
that
we
wanted
to
share
so
for
our
key
accomplishments.
P
As
you
can
see,
I
should
also
say
before
I
even
go
further
robin
carter
cooper,
who
was
our
former
chief
diversity
and
equity
inclusion
officer,
accepted
a
position
so
she's
no
longer
with
the
county,
so
jen
and
I
are
here
to
present
the
dei
budget
on
the
county
executive's
behalf.
So,
but
while
she
was
here
over
those
two
years,
I
think
she
was
very,
very
productive.
P
You
know
being
the
first
dei
officer
of
the
county.
I
think
that
you
know
she
leaves
this
work
feeling
very
proud
about
the
accomplishments
that
she's.
You
know
that
she's
had
at
the
county
the
relationships
that
she's
built
and
then
pretty
much.
You
know
the
you
know
the
foundation
that
she
laid
for.
You
know
the
next
dei
officer,
and
so
some
of
those
accomplishments
you
know,
is
really
kind
of
partnering
with
leaders
you
know
from
all
over
the
county.
P
You
know
our
sustainability
officer,
aaron
and
robin
worked
very,
very
well
together,
welcoming
oakland,
which
you
know
is
our
our
some
of
our
immigration
efforts.
Robin
was
very
instrumental
in
working
with
melanie
in
creating
those
initiatives
and
also
the
health
equity
committee,
one
of
the
few
equity
committees
that
really
existed.
You
know
before
robin
you
know,
came
on
board
robin
worked
very,
very
well
with
them
and
that's
one
of
the
departments
I
oversee.
P
So
there
was
a
lot
of
synergy
between
robin
and
our
health
division
and
their
equity
efforts.
I
will
also
say
that
you
know
the
kpi
process
that
we
went
through
and
I'm
sure
all
of
you
been
hearing.
You
know
all
the
great
kpis
that
our
team
has
developed,
that
the
you
know
at
the
department
level,
at
the
service
level.
You
know
those
were
all
kpis
that
you
know
that
robin
and
her
team
reviewed
and
provided
input.
P
I
think
one
of
the
biggest
accomplishments
that
we've
had
so
far
particularly
around
dei,
is
completing
the
cultural
assessment
we
have.
We
started
that
process.
I
almost
felt
like
it
was
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago.
Now,
a
year
ago,
so
we
completed
that.
Well,
we
started
that
process
about
a
year
ago
and
now
we're
just
not
getting
that
information
back.
So
hopefully
you
know
in
the
next.
You
know
coming
months.
P
You
know
we'll
be
talking
to
board
of
commissioners
bringing
them
up
to
date
about
where
we're
at
you
know
with
our
cultural
assessment
and
how
we
want
to
move
forward
and
what
that
plan
looks
like
and
then,
mr.
L
Powell,
cultural
assessment,
when
you
say
a
couple
months
last,
I
knew
we
possibly
was
supposed
to
probably
see
it
sometime
in
the
summer,
and
I
just
want
to
because
months
can
be
loose
right.
P
So
I
think
I
think
what's
up,
I
think,
what's
important
to
note,
though,
is
that
you
know
one:
we
lost
the
leader
of
the
cultural
assessment.
You
know
when
robin
stepping
out
of
the
door.
I
think
that
you
know
that's
going
to
take
some
time
for
us
to
kind
of
like
get
our
ducks
in
a
row
to
bring
that
to
you.
I
think
that
we're
going
to
be
meeting
very
soon
to
really
kind
of
put
together
what
I
would
call
a
calendar.
You
know
I
have.
I
have
no
problem
in
terms
of
sharing.
P
C
Commissioner,
long
just
real
quick,
so
there's
this
oakland
county,
total
workforce
and
it's
divided
by
race
did
that
come
out
from
the
study.
P
P
So
then
kind
of
just
going
back
to
our
equity
council.
I
think
this
is
also
one
of
the
major
milestones
that
you
know
that
we
were
able
to
kind
of
you
know
check
the
box
on
robin
came
in
with
a
vision
that
that
we
would
create
a
council
that
will,
you
know,
bring
in
voices
from
all
over
the
county
where
we
could.
You
know
this
equity
council
could
come.
You
know
together
talk
about
issues
that
confront
the
county.
P
You
know
see
opportunities
for
training,
you
know,
take
what
they
learned
from
the
council
back
to
their
divisions.
So
this
is,
you
know
I
always
used
to
joke
with
robin
about
like
this
is
kind
of
her
way
of
having
you
know
several
robins.
You
know
always
in
every
division
being
present
everywhere.
You
know-
and
so
you
can
see
you
know
with
this
council.
P
You
know
how
many
hours
there
you
know
they
completed
in
terms
of
training
the
and
they
designed
the
detroit,
the
dei
training
for
all
new
equity
council
members.
I
think
there's
going
to
be
another.
C
P
Yep,
so
we
will
open
up
that
application,
some
other
key
accomplishments.
Our
first
june
t
panel
discussion
was
very
successful
had
over
four
thousand
views.
They
started
to
look
at
our
demographic
report
from
a
quarterly
perspective.
P
P
P
P
So
I
want
you
to
kind
of
understand
that,
from
a
very
broad
perspective
before
we
go
through
these
five
and
they're
very
they're,
very
simple:
it's
not
you
know,
there's
not
nothing
too
complicated,
so
I'll,
just
kind
of
go
through
them
and
take
them
on
real,
quick,
so
a
number
of
department,
equity
teams
across
the
county.
So
that's
looking
at
every
one
of
our
divisions,
we're
looking
at
children's
village
right
now,
developing
an
equity
team.
P
You
know.
I
will
hope
that
my
community
corrections
team
will
formalize
their
equity
team,
so
kind
of
creating
these
equity
teams
across
the
county.
A
number
of
community
members
who
participate
in
the
equity
in
the
annual
equity
event.
I
think
that's
going
to
be
something
that
the
new
dei
officer
will
have
to
kind
of
develop.
What
that?
P
What
that
equity
event
or
events
look
like
the
percent
of
employees
who
participate
in
dei
principles
as
measured
by
employee
survey
percent
of
employees
who
report
a
change
of
thinking,
behavior
or
leadership
as
a
result
of
dei
training,
and
all
this
will
be
gathered
through
a
survey
and
a
percent
of
county
policies,
reviewed
for
equity
impact
and
there's
a
number
of
county
policies
that
we
have.
I
think
that
robin
was
starting
to
you
know,
starting
to
look
at
our
county
policies.
P
You
know
maybe
take
30
this
year,
maybe
look
at
another
50
in
next
year,
but
that
is
the
goal
of
our
dei
office
is
to
really
kind
of
review.
Some
of
those
county
policies,
along
with
equity
teams
that
we
have
across
the
county.
P
I
think
I
kind
of
talked
about
one
key
budget
change
already
in
terms
of
how
we're
going
to
how
we're
going
to
represent
the
dei
budget,
not
necessarily
under
hr
but
in
the
county
executive's
office.
You'll,
see
that
probably
the
two
things.
I
would
just
like
like
to
note
that
there
will
be
one
dei
coordinator
position
to
support
the
dei
efforts,
we're
looking
at
about
80
000
for
that
and
then
creating
a
two
hundred
thousand
dollar
special
event
line
item,
and
that
would
go.
P
You
know
towards
a
you
know,
any
type
of
equity
events
that
we
have
in
the
county
and
then
you
also
see
the
additional
80
000
to
support
dei
training
across
the
county.
P
And
then
some
are
our
2023
initiatives,
and
these
are
these
could
change
depending
on
who
our
dei
officer
is
right.
I
don't
want
to
lock
anybody
in,
but
you'll
see
the
implementation
of
an
equity
action
plan
based
on
the
county-wide
culture
assessment.
That's
kind
of
some
of
those
recommendations
that
we'll
be
implementing
establish
the
department
equity
teams
to
build
dei
capacity
across
the
county.
We
talked
about
that
a
little
bit
already
and
then
also
implement
a
county-wide
dei
training
plan
to
build
awareness
and
capacity
in
all
employees
and
then
also
developing
our
annual
equity
event.
B
Oh,
is
that,
commissioner,
charles
did
you
have
a
question.
G
I
sure
do
and
I
did
log
into
the
clerk
fyi
just
to
be
proper,
hi
deputy
hub.
Hopefully
you
can
hear
me
just
fine.
My
question
actually
is
about
this
newfangled
concept
of
putting
a
j
on
dei
and
I
just
was
wondering
if
you've
hadn't
taken
any
time
to
think
about
that.
If
it's
a
part
of
your
long-term
strategy,
just
any
thoughts
on
that,
apparently
it's
deij
now-
and
I
was
just
curious
if
you
put
any
funding
to
the
jp.
P
I'll
be
very
honest,
I
have
not
given
a
thought
about
the
jay.
I
think
that
when
we
onboard
a
new
dei
officer,
I
think
we
can
have
that
conversation
in
terms
of
you
know
whether
or
not
we
want
to
add
to
jay,
and
you
know
I
would
prefer
to
have
someone
who's
a
practitioner
in
this
space.
I
always
make
note
that
I'm
not
a
practitioner
as
I
am
a
huge
supporter,
I
do
get
it.
I'm
an
advocate,
I'm
an
ally,
but
I'm
not
a
practitioner.
P
G
P
L
I
don't
know
if
this
question
is
to
fall
under
dei
or
hr
eventually,
but
after
reviewing
the
numbers
with
the
minority
breakdown,
what
are
some
strategies
or
things
that
we're
looking
to
possibly
try
to
increase
that
minority
count
overall,.
P
A
Yeah
hi.
Well
I
have
a
couple
but
real,
quick,
hey,
rudy
and
jen.
Could
you
repeat
back
the
the
the
positions
you
were
saying?
One
position
200k
for
events.
P
Yeah
and
then
80
000
for
training.
A
J
O
So
that
that
500,
that
500
000
is
sort
of
a
global
number
in
terms
of
things,
you
know
intended
to
support
the
county's
diversity
initiatives
overall.
So
it
includes
both
the
things
we're
talking
about
right
here.
It
also
includes,
for
example,
the
the
position
that's
been
added
in
purchasing,
which
will
you
know,
part
of
whose
responsibility
will
be
to
increase
vendor
outreach
and
diversify
our
supplier
base.
So
there's
there's
a
few
different
things
in
that
number.
A
O
A
A
A
Was
that
right,
the
board
board
initiated
that
or
launched
that,
or
was
that
the
county
executive
that
launched
it
and
we
just
voted
that
was
the
county
exec
that
launched
it:
okay,
okay,
yeah
cool,
and
then
the
last
thing
I
was
gonna
say
is
then
the
survey
it
again
because
this
is
happening
before
I
showed
up
that
it's
more
than
race
right,
it's
about
ability-
and
you
know
all
these
other
things
it
categorizes
stuff.
Okay,
there's
more
than
it's,
not
black
people,
okay,
okay,
cool.
E
Yes,
thank
you.
I'm
looking
at
a
lot
of
the
kpis
and
a
lot
of
them
look
very
all
very
vague
and
sort
of
nebulous.
I
wonder:
are
there
any
goals
and
timetables
in
this
as
well,
for
the
achievement
of
certain
levels.
P
That
I
don't
have
the
answer
to
in
terms
of
like
when
we're
going
to
actually
meet
these
goals
right.
I
think
that
what
we
would
like
to
do
is
be
able
to
report
this
data.
You
know
as
we
as
we
report
all
our
kpis.
You
know
in
a
very
transparent
way.
I
think
that
you'll
start
to
see
this
data
you
know
be
collected,
be
measured
and
over
time
you'll
see.
You
know
our
ability,
you
know,
to
make
headway
and
progress
in
the
areas
that
we
outline.
E
P
Well,
I
think
that
for
for
one
with
like,
let's
look
at
number
one,
a
number
of
department
of
equity
teams
across
the
county-
I
think
that
you
know
from
our
former
dei
officer-
I
mean
she
had,
she
would
have
wanted.
You
know
every
division,
you
know
to
have
a
dei.
You
know
equity
team,
so
I
think
that
you
know
understanding
how
many
divisions
that
we
would
have.
P
E
So
how
many
people
would
be
in
how
many
people
would
be
in
an
equity
team
like
two
or
three
or
all
right.
C
E
E
E
Would
they
be
dei
division
people,
or
would
they
be
people
within
the
department
who
would
also
have
that
extra
responsibility.
A
P
There's
already
a
equity
team
that
exists
right,
so
health
has
an
equity
team.
I
think
it's
smaller
than
10
people
more
than
five
right.
You
know
these.
Are
these
are
nurses?
You
know
these
are
nutritionists.
These
are
environment,
environmental,
health,
individuals.
So
I
mean
this
is
a
number
of
folks
that
come
together.
You
know
and
make
sure
that
you
know
we're
delivering
services
through
an
equitable
matter.
E
B
Okay,
I
think
commissioner
cavell
has
another
question.
A
Yeah
and
rudy,
even
though
I'm
remote
I
can
see,
I
can
see
the
head
shake.
I
see
you,
I
was
smiling.
A
Two
real
quick
questions,
so
the
quarterly
reports
that
you're
talking
about
do
those
go
to
lago
committee
or
would
that
be
the
relevant
committee?
Do
we
regularly
have
access
to
those
or.
P
You
know
looking
at
our
demographics
and
each
other's
departments,
and
then
they
were
being
handed
out
to
the
deputies
so
that
we
can
be
you
know
so
we'll
be
knowledgeable
about.
What's
you
know,
what
does
the
demographics
look
like
in
all
our
departments
and
divisions?
P
So
it
was
more
of
use
for
internal,
so
that
we'll
have
you
know
again
knowledge
kind
of
where
our
divisions
departments
currently
stand
whenever,
as
it
relates
to
demographics,.
P
I
personally,
I
would
say
that
we
should
that
should
be
a
conversation,
offline
and
kind
of
really
figure
out.
You
know
you
know
the
cadence
of
that.
I
think
transparency
is
important.
I
don't
think
anyone's
trying
to
hide
anything,
but
I
really
do
think
that
we
should
try
to
figure
out
what
that
cadence
looks
like
for
those
who
want
to
know
that
information.
A
C
C
C
J
B
B
B
Just
make
sure
that
you
pull
your
mics
up
close
now.
B
M
A
big
department,
my
name
is
april
lynch,
I'm
deputy
county
executive
and
acting
hr
director.
I'm
sitting
to
my
right
is
stephanie
bedricki.
She
oversees
our
benefits
team
in
retirement,
so
she
has
a
lot
to
do
with
the
fringe
benefit
fund,
and
then
I
have
sunil
asia.
He's
our
newest
member
to
the
team,
he's
our
deputy
hr
director
and
is
assisting
in
all
the
hr
roles
and
specifically
really
focus
on
learning
and
development.
And
then
susan
locke
is
our
talent.
M
Man,
acquisition
manager,
she's
been
leading
the
recruiting
team
this
last
year
trying
to
move
some
of
our
goals
forward
there
and
melva
allen
is
our
supervisor
of
she
just
changed
positions
just
a
couple
months
ago.
I
think
before
that
was
it
just
before
the
holiday
january.
M
M
So
our
headliners
right
now
are
focusing
on
the
number,
a
percentage
of
hires
from
minoritized
groups,
a
percent
of
employees,
reporting
that
rate
oakland
county
government
as
good
or
excellent
place
to
work
percent
of
senior
level
managers
from
minoritized
groups,
a
number
of
employees
with
post-secondary
education
and
or
industry
certification
and
focusing
on
time
to
hire
and
fill
positions
within
oakland
county.
Those
are
headliners.
E
Commissioner,
moss
yes
ma'am,
what
is
a
minoritized
group?
I
know
what
a
minority
group
is.
I
don't
know
what
what
I
mean
I
can
imagine,
but
why
don't
you
tell
me
what
is
a
minoritized
group.
M
E
Are
protected
a
very
large
and
very
wide
group
of
that
have
been
minoritized
is
because
they
have
been
defined
as
a
minority.
Okay,.
B
Okay,
yep,
you
can
keep
going
okay,
perfect.
M
And
then,
and
just
to
kind
of
show
you
where
we
are
a
little
bit
on
our
percentage
of
diversity
applicant
pool,
you
can
start
to
see
that
we
are
trending
upward,
which
we're
really
excited
about
lots
of
work
to
continue
to
do
on
a
percentage
of
diversity
of
new
hires,
and
you
can
see
there.
It
kind
of
shows
you
a
little
bit
of
how
we'll
start
reporting
our
headline.
M
Kpis
to
be
able
to
you
know,
show
progress
into
all
of
our
goals,
so
that
just
just
shows
you
a
little
bit
of
a
snapshot
of
where
we
are
today
still
lots
of
work
to
do,
but
I
just
wanted
to
get
the
snapshot
as
as
of
today
oops,
as
we
talked
about
service
level,
kpis
we're
in
the
end
stages.
I
think
we
have
a
meeting
on
monday
to
formalize
those
service
level
kpis
within
each
unit,
and
so
once
those
are
available,
we'll
be,
of
course,
sharing
those
as
well
key
budget
changes.
M
You
know,
one
of
the
questions
was
our
work
for
reduction,
our
worst
for
our
workforce
reductions.
We
did
eliminate
two
positions
back
in
2020,
so
we
did
meet
our
four
percent
goal
as
it
relates
to
new
investments.
We
have
one
of
the
big
ones
is
our
a
new
applicant
tracking
system.
We
have
it's
very
clunky
program
that
we
currently
have.
It
does
not
allow
us
to
report
very
well.
M
Susan
and
her
team
do
a
lot
of
hand
calculations
but,
most
importantly,
we
get
a
lot
of
feedback
from
our
candidates
and
are
those
that
are
interested
in
working
with
us
that
they
give
up
pretty
quickly
with
our
program.
It's
it's
very
difficult
to
maneuver,
so
this
should
help
with
that
as
well,
and
help
us
make
sure
that
we
don't
miss
any
good
candidates.
M
There
is
a
through
bright
horizons
as
a
scholarship
program
that
if
employees
meet
a
certain
certain
income
threshold
that
they
could
qualify
for
reduced
cost
to
their
to
their
child
care,
so
we're
really
excited
about
putting
that
out
and
once
we
move
that
forward.
We'll
take
a
look
at
what
the
parameters
are
and
we'll
bring
that
back
to
the
board.
The
other
thing
that
we're
looking
at
is
increasing
tuition
by
50
000.
This
will
allow
employees
to
request
reimbursement
for
books
and
other
fees.
M
We
are
trying
to
remove
roadblocks
for
those
who
want
to
further
their
education
and
sometimes,
by
still
needing
you
know,
every
money
every
dollar
counts.
We
want
to
make
sure
we
remove
any
barriers,
so
we'll
be
bringing
that
back
to
the
board
as
well
to
readjust
our
policy
and
procedures
for
books
and
yeah.
M
Basket
weaving,
I
mean,
I
think
we
do
a
lot
of
that,
but
not
many
people
do
that,
but
we
really
want
people
to
further
their
education
in
any
capacity,
and
sometimes
maybe
oakland
county
is
not
the
place
where
they
can.
You
know
do
that,
but
we
can
at
least
support
them
in
that
endeavor,
but
for
the
most
part
they're,
mostly
people
are
finding
their
niche
within
oakland
county.
M
A
couple
of
things,
too,
a
major
funding
shift
that
you'll
see
here
is
is
back
in
2015,
we
implemented
a
disability
workers
program
and
it
was
taken
out
of
what's
called,
you
might
have,
saw
a
lineup
called
emergency
salaries,
and
so
for
the
last
six
seven
years,
it's
been
a
program
that
we
that
we
have
worked
through,
but
never
really
formalized.
M
It
never
made
sure
that
we're
hitting
any
markers
or
anything
like
that
so
melva
has
taken
on
I'm
actually
creating
more
of
a
more
of
a
of
a
program
that
actually
has
parameters
and
boundaries
and
make
sure
that
we
contract
making
sure
that
we're
having
success,
which
is
making
sure
these
employees
get
placed
and
making
sure
that
we
also
have
that
budget
for
us,
so
we're
just
literally
taking
the
money
what
we
were
already
spending
on
it
and
moving
it
into
hr,
so
that
melva
has
more
autonomy
to
do
what
we
need
to
do
to
build
that
program
up.
M
A
couple
other
initiatives
for
us
here
is,
of
course,
working
with
dei
office
officer
to
implement
a
leadership.
Training
program
specifically
for
di
is
talking
with
robin
and
I'm
assuming
the
new.
The
new
person
as
well
as
we
get
moving
on.
That
is
that
there
are
some
trainings
that
we'll
be
able
to
do
in
house,
but
there
will
be
some
that
we'll
want
to
do
outside
and
we'll
need
support
for
that,
and
the
biggest
push
will
be
to
get
it
on
all
of
our
leadership.
All
of
our
leadership
within
oakland
county
train.
M
We
have
about
four
to
500
people
that
you
would
that
we
tag
as
in
some
kind
of
leadership
position.
Does
that
sound
about
right?
You
both
are
nodding.
Your
heads
at
me,
okay,
we'll
be
looking
at
realigning
our
goals
and
processes
and
policies
to
support
the
findings
of
the
culture
in
the
workplace.
Study
that
we
hoping
to
again
to
be
released
in
september
and
october.
M
One
thing
with
human
resources
is
a
lot
of
times.
It's
redeploying
how
we
do
things
and
doing
things
differently.
We
may
not
necessarily
need
new,
you
know
new
positions
or
anything
to
do
that,
but
just
kind
of
reallocating
and
re-looking
at
what
we're
doing
so.
We
believe
that
we'll
be
able
to
do
that
with
with
the
current
staff
we
have.
The
big
push
for
us,
as
we
continue
through
22
into
23,
is
continue
to
modernize
modernize,
our
talent
acquisition.
L
M
L
M
M
Right
without
checking
in
yeah
no,
I
appreciate
you
thank
you.
Thank
you,
so
with
youths
already
a
request
for
a
different
talent,
talent,
acquisition
program,
as
well
as
we're
adding
more
funds
for
recruiting
efforts,
in
particular
in
the
in
diversity
in
other
areas
to
to
recruit
like,
for
instance,
I
can.
One
of
the
things
is:
indeed.com
is
becoming
our
most
large
source
for
not
only
in
diverse
candidates
but
candidates
in
general,
and
so
just
about
two
months
ago.
I
think
we
were
able
to.
M
We
worked
with
corporation
council
to
start
doing,
what's
called
sponsored
ads
that
has
absolutely
increased
our
candidate
pool,
as
well
as
the
diversity
in
our
candidate
pool
as
well.
So
looking
at
that,
susan's
team
looks
every
month
at
where
we're
getting
our
resources
and
what's
working,
what's
not
working
and
reallocates
that
the
way
as
appropriate.
M
As
I
mentioned,
we
had
moved
and
continued
to
move
and
dedicate
a
position.
Melva
has
taken
it
on
for
apprenticeships
and
internships
to
support
the
growth
and
development
of
employees
and
potential
candidates.
We're
pleased
to
announce.
I
don't
know
if
you've
heard
that
we
just
got
our
apprenticeship
certification
here
at
wrc,
due
to
the
large
efforts
here
of
of
melvin,
her
team
and
to
really
start
moving
into
apprenticeships,
as
well
as
looking
at
a
formal
internship
program,
all
the
way
from
high
school
into
college.
So
she's
here
for
intern
right.
M
Yep
yep
yep
yep,
absolutely
as
requested
in
the
powerpoint
anticipated
I.t
project.
We
already
talked
about
the
applicant
tracking
system
and
we
are
looking
at.
We
have
an
issue
in
our
retirement.
We
have
to
the
way
we
do
our
1099,
so
more,
more
technical
and
then,
as
it
relates
to
our
contracts.
M
You'll
know
we're
up
for
a
bid
for
quite
a
bit
of
them
this
next
year,
in
particular,
all
of
our
health
care,
we'll
be
up
and
we'll
be
going
all
at
once,
which
actually
works
out
really
well,
because
you
get
a
synergy
when
all
of
them
are
open
at
one
time,
so
that
you'll
see
that
happening,
probably
starting
in
january.
M
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
and
then
our
as
I
don't
know
how
many
people
know
this,
but
little
oaks,
child
care
where
we
run
well,
we
we
own
the
building,
we
actually
contract
with
a
service
industry
that
actually
does
and
knows
how
to
run
a
child
care
service.
They
run
all
of
the
day-to-day
operations
making
sure
we
meet
licensing
and
do
all
of
that.
We
just
provide
the
space
and
make
sure
that
the
contract
is
meeting
the
needs
of
our
employees.
M
Also
too,
it's
important
to
know
in
the
fringe,
in
the
fringe
benefit
fund
is,
is
your
retirement?
It's
it's
healthcare,
it's
training
and
a
few
other
things
that
that
are
in
our
in
the
fringe
rate
that
you
often
see
here
with
oakland
county.
As
we
had
discussed,
I
think
we
did
a
presentation
back
before
the
budget
process
about
a
five-year
model.
M
So
far
we're
meeting
all
of
our
markers.
All
of
the
things
that
we
said,
we've
shifted.
Some
things
took
some
things
out,
put
some
things
in.
That
would
make
more
sense,
but
so
far
kyle
will
be
happy
to
know
that
we
have
so
far
hit
our
markers
and
might
be
ahead
of
the
game
and
some
of
them
and
the
changes
that
you
would
see
there
was
what
we
called
internal
changes,
a
lot
of
things
behind
the
scenes.
There's
a
couple
points
of
inflection
that
we
would
have
with
our
employees.
M
2023
will
be
the
first
one
with
an
increase
in
contribution
of
ten
dollars.
A
pay
period,
that'll
be
the
first
time
since
2009
1309
that
we've
had
any
increase.
All
of
the
unions
have
agreed
to
that
as
well,
and
so
that
will
be
coming
in
in
during
the
budget
process
and
a
formal,
mr
for
that,
and
then
we
don't
see
another
impact
to
employees
until
2025
and
that
will
be
the
increase
in
drug
co-pays
in
2026.
M
L
It
was
discussed
during
a
presentation
to
the
board
that
there
was
a
possibility
of
employees
having
to
increase
contributions
to
cover
the
cost
of
rising
benefits.
We
know
that
the
contract
is
included
in
this
budget.
Are
there
preliminary
discussions
on
what
this
may
cost
for
a
fiscal
year
23
through
25.
M
Yeah
here
I'll
show
you
yep
so
the
goal
the
employee
contribution
will
actually
be
about
a
million
dollar
savings
in
2023
and
then
in
2025.
The
drug
co-pay,
I
believe,
is
about
325
350
in
savings
for
2025
and
we're
doing
a
lot
of
other
things
in
behind
the
scenes
that
are
saving
us
a
lot
of
money
as
well
right
and
the.
M
No
right
now
that
was
one
of
the
things
when
we
talked
about
the
task
force.
Is
that
the
it
became
very
clear
that
you
know
they
would
rather
see
changes
like
this,
rather
rather
than
pl
plan
design
changes.
So
we've
agreed
over
this
next
five
years,
we're
not
doing
any
current
plan
design
changes
to
our
two
largest
plans,
which
is
our
ppo3
for
blue
cross
ppo,
one
and
two.
Thank
you,
the
blue
cross
and
asr.
L
Okay
and
then
my
question
I
asked
prior
to.
L
J
M
M
So
we
really
have
been
trying
to
make
sure
that
where
we,
where
we
spend
our
recruiting
dollars
and
what
we
do
with
recruiting,
helps
get
the
candidates
actually
in
the
door
and
then
so
that's
the
first
thing
trying
to
increase
the
percentage
of
our
pool,
and
so
actually
susan's
team
look
every
month
to
see
where
they're
sourcing
their
their
candidates
from
and
that's
when
she
really
pushed
for
us
to
look
at
the
sponsored
ads
with
indeed.com
and
things
of
that
nature,
because
we
were
finding
that
source
to
be
raising
our
applicant
pool.
M
We
did
we
do
quite
a
few
of
those
per
year
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
and
I
think
I'm
hoping
that
these
apprenticeships
and
the
internships
as
well
will
also
get
you
know,
get
help
connect
early
students
into
knowing
and
understanding
what
oakland
county
can
do
and
be
a
career
path
for
them
as
well,
and
then,
of
course,
internally,
taking
a
look
at
a
lot
of
bias
training
because
we
can
get
the
candidate
in,
but
if
they
don't
get
hired
or
they
you
know,
they'll
pass
probation
or
they
you
know
can't
continue
to
thrive
here
in
oakland
county
we're
working
on
plans
on
all
of
those
pieces.
M
I
will
tell
you
too
a
reminder
in
about
a
year
ago,
we
blinded
our
applications.
So
when
people
get
an
application,
they
actually
don't
see
who
the
person
is
or
where
they
live.
So
that
also
takes
away
some
bias
when
they
start
looking
at
who
they're
potentially
bringing
in
for
interviews.
So
we
have
a
lot
a
lot
of
work
to
do
and
we
work
and
we'll
continue
to
work
very
closely
with
the
di
office
to
look
at
strategies
that
makes
sense
and
then.
I
L
M
M
We
had
a
lot
of
people
leave
over
the
last
year
and
honestly,
we
have
a
lot
of
openings
right
now,
so
we're
hoping
that,
as
we
start
to
fill
all
of
those
that
we
kind
of
see
a
little
right
in
that
ship
yeah,
those
are
good
questions
all
right.
Thank
you.
B
A
No
thanks,
I'm
calling
in
hello
everybody,
so
actually
what
you
were
just
asking,
commissioner
paul.
I
think
it's
the
second
or
third
slide.
Would
you
mind
going
back
to
that
april
about
the
recruitment
kpis?
A
It
looks
like
you're
showing
that
it,
the
the
applicant
pool,
went
up
in
the
last
year.
Could
you
share
a
little
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
how
many
you
know.
We
went
up
by
one
percent
of
diversity
from
28
to
29
percent
based
on
2018-22,
so
like
how
many
folks-ish
is
that
what
do
you
count
as
diversity,
because,
right,
it's
not
just
skin
color
and
all
that
there's
a
lot
of
things?
A
So
the
way
that
we
count
the
minoritized
group
is
in
conjunction
with
the
dei
office.
So
we
look
at
american,
indian
hispanic
or
latino
black
or
african
american
native
hawaiian
pacific
islander
all
of
the
standard
categories
you
know
for
the
minoritized
group
and
then
what
we
do
is
we
look
at
the
total
number
of
applications
that
are
received,
and
then
we
look
at
the
number
of
minoritized
groups,
and
then
I
get
the
percentage
from
those
two,
those
two
numbers:
okay,
thank
you
and
then
how
do
we
feel
about
the
increase
right?
A
So
it's
a
percentage
there
was
a
bit
of
a
dip.
Is
that
due
to
the
pandemic,
what
are
yeah?
It
probably
was
due
to
the
pandemic
the
dip,
but
there
are
two
things
that
I
think
really
increased.
The
pool
and
number
one
was
blinding
the
applications
we
really
in
recruitment.
A
We
feel
that
that
really
was
a
positive
thing
to
do
and
number
two
indeed
sponsorship,
really
in
looking
at
the
numbers
before
we
had,
indeed-
and
after
indeed
are
quite
striking-
and
so
indeed
has
really
boosted
our
numbers-
okay
and-
and
you
mentioned
the
blind
application.
Maybe
this
is
an
offline
conversation,
but
I've
heard
that
blind
applications
can
actually
increase
or
hurt
diversity
intentions.
A
I
would
love
to
maybe
talk
with
you
offline
more
about
that
don't
mean
to
take
the
group's
time,
but
that
right,
if
you're,
not
being
intentional
about
hiring
diverse
candidates,
that
doing
a
blind
thing
might
make
you
lean
towards
your
natural,
implicit
biases,
because
it's
a
blind
thing
see
anyways,
so
we'd
love
to
talk
more
about
that
offline
I'd
be
happy
to
yeah
and
then
regarding
the
healthcare
I,
since
all
the
contracts
are
coming
up.
A
A
Okay
and
then
lastly,
you
said
your
interim
hr
director,
so
is
that
that's
been
for
a
minute,
though
right
like
a
yeah?
What's
what's
the
plan
there.
M
Sure
glad
you
asked
actually
you
know
we
I've
been
in
and
out
of
being
the
interim
hr
director
now
for
almost
three
years,
but
we
we
went
again
in
january
of
this
year
and
just
did
not
find
hr
director
that
we
felt
was
the
best
fit
here
for
oakland
county
and
so
given
my
continued
relationship
with
department,
directors,
employees,
unions
and
such
we've
decided
that
I'm
going
to
maintain
my
position
as
both
hr
director
and
deputy
county
executive
for
a
while
and
and
just
continue.
We
have
a
lot
of
really
amazing
projects.
B
L
L
M
And
then
also
you
guys
had
asked
a
question
about.
Why
is
that
not
you're
not
seeing
a
drawdown
in
the
how
much
we've
used,
so
we
do
not
use
a
purchase
order
system
for
the
healthcare
due
to
the
consistent.
What
do
you
call
it
bring
down,
or
what
do
you
guys
call
it?
The
spend
the
spend
down?
That's
what
it's
called
yeah.
So
that's
why
you
see
it's
a
little
different
than
the
other
ones,
where
they're
more
based
on
a
po.
We
don't
have
a
po
system
for
the
healthcare.
E
B
G
G
I
sometimes
get
fsa
hsa
confused,
but
there
was
a
rollover
from
last
year
and
I
know
I
was
like
panicking
and
scrambling
like
what
can
I
go
buy
you
know.
Maybe
I
need
some
more
glasses,
but
I
was
so
glad
when
I
saw
that
had
rolled
over
for
a
little
bit
extended
time,
and
so
I
hope
everybody
is
aware
of
that
applicant
tracking
systems.
G
I
think
commissioner,
cavell
and
others
have
talked
about
just
the
inherent,
sometimes
coded
in
issues
with
those
tracking
systems,
and
so
I
would
you
know,
I'm
happy
that
more
people
of
color
are
applying,
but
it's
not
translating
into
hiring
and
I'd
like
to
just
you
know,
I'm
counting
on
you
all
to
assure
us
that,
even
though
it's
an
application
tracking
system
that
there's
still
some
human
beings
making
the
final
decision
and
then
the
question
that
I
have
is
about
facilities-
and
I
I'm
you
know-
you've
got
a
huge
department,
like
the
chair
said
and
my
concern
with
facilities
is
that
we've
heard
from
departments
over
the
last
two
weeks
about
some
things
with
facilities,
for
example,
no
real
barrier
between
the
public
and
staff.
G
You
know
someone
can
go
around
the
corner,
maybe
at
the
register
of
these
and
then
you've
got
other
facility
concerns
that
have
come
across
each
report,
just
about
whether
it's
fire,
suppression
or
even
alarms,
going
off
and
nobody's
really
saying
why
the
alarm
is
going
off
so
you're,
basically
having
a
whole
building
evacuated
and
department
heads.
Don't
know
why
there's
no,
I
think,
there's
no.
G
I
don't
know
if
the
right
word
is
communication
plan
for
that
and
I'd
love
for
you
guys
to
spend
some
time
there.
But
when
we
talk
about
communication,
I'm
hearing
that
you
know
tiles
are
falling
on
people's
heads
and
they
are
not
getting
any
response
back
from
hr
or
facilities.
G
M
Sure
sure
so
I
mean
ed
joss
and
his
team
over
at
facilities.
They
take
that
very
seriously,
so
I'm
hoping
that
there
aren't
tiles
on
people's
heads,
but
part
of
the
process
too,
is
you
know:
we've
been
looking
at
over
the
last
year,
all
of
our
cip
projects
that
we've
had
you
know
a
lot
that
has
been
undone
for
quite
some
time,
and
so
part
of
it
is
is
they're.
M
Doing
I
mean
again,
if
there's
somebody
who
has
a
tile
falling
on
their
head,
we
need
to
know
about
that
now,
but
we
need
to
take
a
look
at
holistically.
What
is
happening
with
all
of
our
buildings
and
how
we
want
to
go
about
prioritizing
those.
So
that
is
also,
I
know,
we've
been
in
a
year
of
studies
is
rounding
toward
the
end
and
we're
in
the
draft
stages
of
finalizing
that
as
well
to
bring
back
to
the
board.
You
know
it's
upwards
of
about
a
billion
dollars
worth
of
deferred
capital.
M
So,
but
again
I
I.
I
think
that
I
feel,
as
though
I've
heard
very
many
positive
responses
on
on
facilities
taking
care
of
those
immediate
issues,
and
I
wouldn't
if
anybody
had
said
that
I
would
encourage
them
to
definitely
reach
out
to
ed
or
I
can.
I
can
thank
you.
B
B
They
have
a
third
of
their
staff
out
with
covid
right
now,
because
they
feel
like
they're
on
top
of
each
other,
and
the
court
administrator
sat
right
there
in
your
chair
an
hour
and
a
half
ago
and
told
me
she
had
a
tile
fall
on
her
head,
so
that
situation.
The
courthouse
in
clarkson
is
one
of
these
big
problems
that
we
keep
hearing
about
every
year
and
it's
not
getting
any
better
and
they
are
they're
practically
screaming
at
us
when
they
come
in
here
with
nobody's
listening
to
us.
B
In
fact,
she
read
through
a
whole
list
of
requests
that
she
has
made
in
the
last
three
months
for
facilities
issues
and
they
are
getting
no
response
so
I'll
just
put
that
it's,
it
may
not
be
across
the
county,
but
specifically
the
district
courts
and
even
more
specifically
the
one
in
clarkson.
We
need
to
deal
with
that.
We
cannot
continue
to
tell
those
people
their
situation
is
okay,
because
it's
not
so.
I.
B
They're
being
told
you
know,
we
asked
for
the
study
we
the
board
of
commissioners,
and
there
was
a
preliminary
completion
of
it,
but
since
then
they
haven't
heard
anything
and
neither
have
we
so
is
it
going
to
be
finished
in
a
month?
Is
it
going
to
be
finished
in
six
months?
What
does
it
say?
You
know
it's
kind
of
out
there
in
the
middle
of
nowhere
as
far
as
the
courts
are
concerned,
and
us
too,
we
haven't
heard
back
understood.
B
Okay,
commissioner,
kowal.
C
Thank
you
manager,
and
to
just
kind
of
piggyback
on
that.
They
also
mentioned
that,
because
they
had
two
rounds
of
kovit
go
through
that
the
employees
were
forced
to
use
vacation
time
and
in
in
place
of
because
they
had
to
stay
home
in
quarantine
or
whatever
did
that
happen
in
any
other
departments
in
the
county,
yeah
people
were
forced
to
use
their
vacation
times
because
of
that.
C
C
To
use
your
vacation
days
because
you're
essentially
forced
to
stay
home,
you
might
not
be
sick
or
but
whatever.
So
I
was
not
happy
to
hear
that
understood.
B
Correct,
I
I
I
agree.
We
I
think
everybody
in
this
room
was
very
disturbed
to
hear
that
and
if
they
used
up
their
vacation
time,
they
were
not
getting
paid,
which
doesn't
make
sense
when
their
conditions
are
driving
them
to
sit
closely
together
and
they're
all
going
out
at
once
with
kovid.
That's
a
you
know:
it's
an
indicator
that
it's
the
system,
commissioner
moss,
followed
by
commissioner
powell.
E
Yeah
I'd
like
to
suggest
that
the
concerns
raised
and
summarized
by
our
chair,
I
appreciate
that
there
are
studies
going
on
and
that
there
are
policies,
and
you
know
I
I
do
appreciate
that,
but
that
at
least
a
some
sort
of
a
summary
report
on
this
on
these
two
situations.
I
think
one
is
facilities
and
the
condition
of
the
court
and
the
other
is
the
the
eight
I'm
say:
hr
policies
as
a
vacation
time
for
coving.
E
I'd
like
to
report
back
to
this
committee
to
the
chair,
and
I
would
like
to
suggest
the
time
to
be
about
two
weeks
so
that
we
can
get
a
kind
of
find
out
where
we're
at
on
this
and
where
we
might
be
willing
to
go
and
get
on
it.
That's
what
I'd
like
to
suggest,
madam
chair,
if
you
think
that
might
be
within
what
you
might
be
thinking
about.
B
Yeah,
I
I
definitely
think
you
know
time
is
of
the
essence
here
we
have.
This
has
been
pushed
off
for
quite
a
while
and
the
people
who
are
feeling
it
are
not
feeling
responded
to,
and
I
think
you
know
we're
here
to
talk
about
your
budget,
but
what
has
happened
is
through
the
course
of
this.
Issues
are
unearthed
that
may
or
may
not
be
related
to
money.
Now.
B
Are
we
going
to
build
a
new
court
building
that's
related
to
money,
but
the
situation
as
it
exists
today
is
very,
very
uncomfortable
and
hard
for
them
to
continue
to
live
with,
although
they
are
so.
Yes,
I
think
two
weeks.
If,
if
you
can
come
back
to
us
with
a
response
in
a
couple
of
weeks,
that
would
be
very
helpful.
L
Yeah,
I
was
going
to
suggest
the
same
thing
as
far
as
the
vacation
time
thing
for
us
to
kind
of
revisit
that
see
if
there's
any
options
and
also
visit
opera
funding.
Because
again
it's
called
it's
tied
to
coffee.
So
and
we
know
we
do
have
some
funds
left.
So
if
somehow
we
could
figure
it
out
to
kind
of
fund
these
people
who
had
this
situation
or,
however
april
decide
to
write,
you
know,
figure
it
out
finalize.
L
I
think
that
that's
something
that
we
can
look
at
and
look
at
the
opera
funding
to
assist
with
that
and
then
my
second
question
is,
and
if
I
guess,
if
you're
gonna
give
us
a
report
just
to
update
our
options,
what
is
options
to
kind
of
deal
with
a
scenario
or
a
situation
like
that
and
what
are
the
funding
resources
that
that
that
can
be
funded
from
that'll
be
great?
L
And
then
my
next
question-
and
you
may
have
answered
this,
but
our
staff
works
very
hard
and
putting
questions
together
for
them,
probably
to
help
us.
So
my
next
question
is:
there
are
a
number
of
contracts
and
and
and
on
the
reason,
why
I'm
saying
this
because
it
may
have
been
somewhat
what
charlie
asked
you,
but
there
are
a
number
of
contracts
listed
in
professional
service
contract
summary
for
the
human
resource
department.
L
That
indicates
no
payment
for
the
scope
of
work
has
been
provided
by
oakland
county
is
the
payment
provided
on
a
one-time
basis
at
the
end
of
a
contract,
and
where
would
the
finance
committee
members
see
the
budgeted
funding
for
the
professional
service
contracts
identify
under
human
resources?
Sure.
M
So
if
you
see,
though,
under
human
resources,
you
see
them
under
that
have
not
been
expended
like
it
just
shows
like
70
million,
like
our
blue
cross,
blue
shield
and
there's
nothing
spent.
That's
because
we
don't
use
a
po
system
for
our
health
care
costs
yeah,
and
so,
but
what
you
will
see
is
the
true
costs
are
in
the
fringe
benefit
fund.
You
want
to
go
ahead,
page
600
and.
C
H
B
Thank
you,
commissioner
long
did
you
have
a
question?
Okay,
you
were
just
making
trouble
over
on
the
side
of
the
table.
I
can
see.
Okay,
anybody
else
have
any
questions
that
they
want
to
ask
this
group
charlie,
you
comfortable
yolanda,
you
good
happy
hour,
right,
she's,
probably
offline
for
a
minute,
okay.
Well,
if
nobody
else
has
any
other
questions
or
comments.
Thank
you
very
much
for
coming
in
it's
a
very
complicated
department
and
we
appreciate
the
time
you
took
to
spell
things
out
for
us.
B
O
This
is
just
informational,
so
you
know
what
what
you're
looking
at
this
is
the
list
of
of
technical
amendments
that
you
know
we
would
ask
the
committee
to
adopt
next
week
at
your
wrap-up
session.
We
know,
though
you
know.
O
Not
information
technology
budget,
technical
yeah,
so
you
have
a
list
of
amendments,
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
these
full
packet.
Certainly,
if
you
have
questions
between
now
and
next
week,
let
us
know
the
items
under
under
section
a
are
to
to
true
the
budget
up
for
amendments
that
the
board
has
adopted.
Since
we
issued
the
recommendation,
the
items
under
b
and
c
then
are
are
correcting
technical
oversights.
O
You'll
see
that
the
bottom
line
of
all
of
these
amendments
is
actually
to
reduce
our
reliance
on
fund
balance
by
about
190
000.
So
these
are
all
you
know,
basically
net
neutral.
I
would
highlight
that
the
the
parks
amendment
that
mr
ward
referenced
during
his
presentation
is
included
here.
O
The
amendment
that
rudy
referenced
with
respect
to
consolidating
the
dei
funding
under
the
county
executive
office
is
not
here.
We
will
make
sure
that
is
added
to
the
list.
Along
with
any
other
amendments,
we
suspect
the
committee
may
want
to
consider
a
few.
So
that's
all,
I
have
to
say
we're
happy
to
answer
questions
now
or
later,
but
wanted
to
make
sure
you
knew
what
you
had
in
front
of
you
for
next
week.
B
This
can
down
the
road
anymore
and
let's
look
at
the
funding,
that's
out
there,
whether
it's
arpa
or
general
fund
or
whatever,
but
and,
however,
we
need
to
talk
to
the
courts.
You
know
somebody
was
texting
me
and
said.
Well
did
I
think
you
know
the
situation
with
the
district
court.
Should
we
draw
in
circuit
court.
I
also
felt
like
probate
court,
had
a
story
to
tell
you
know
so
I
I
feel,
like
I
mean
risk
management,
risk
management.
B
O
You
know
everything
I
said
at
the
end
of
tuesday's
meeting
right,
but
just
to
be
specific,
I
mean
all
of
these
projects
are
in
the
pipeline,
they're
being
considered
again,
you
know
we
had
170
it
projects
that
have
been
submitted
for
the
for
the
it
master
planning
process
for
the
upcoming
two
years.
So
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
need
here.
We
recognize
investment
needs
to
be
made.
You
know
there
is
a
limit,
obviously
to
the
number
of
dollars
specific
to
the
digital
records
management.
O
You
know,
as
it
happens,
and
I
think
sean
mentioned
this
to
you
when,
when
you
talked
to
him
earlier
today,
we
had
a
meeting
internally
and
approved
a
number
of
projects
that
will
come
forward
to
you
next
month
on.
You
know
around
digital
records
management,
recognizing
that
this
is
a
problem
across
all
departments.
O
One
of
those
is
the
project
that
the
district
court
was
talking
about
with
with
respect
to
automated
probation
check-in.
So
again
you
know
all
these
things
are
being
considered.
Arp
funding.
You
know
this
working
with
us.
The
board
has
has
allocated
certain
buckets
for
county
operations.
We've
tried
to
prioritize
on
the
laptop
front.
The
district
court
has
received
57
new
laptops.
O
You
know,
since
the
pandemic
started
using
federal
funding.
We
have
you
know
I
forget
what
the
number
is,
but
we
have
thousands
of
of
people
still
working
on
desktops
that
really
need
laptops
to
be
effective
and
we're
trying
to
work
through
that
as
funding
is
available
as
the
supply
chain
is
available.
O
A
B
O
All
right,
I
always
appreciate
communication.
You
know
recognize
there
are
needs.
You
know
I
just
don't
want
there
to
be
any
impression
that
the
county
executive
isn't
recognizing
these
needs.
These
are
sizable
needs
that
have
built
up
over
decades
that
we're
attacking
as
quickly
and
systematically
as
we
can
appreciate.
B
That
okay,
well,
we
appreciate
all
the
communication,
I'm
glad
we're
talking.
You
know,
that's
the
only
way
we
can
fix
this.
So
certainly
it's
been
a
good
series.
Okay!
Well,
that's
item
5a!
I
think
next
on
the
agenda,
we
have
public
comment.
Is
there
anybody
from
the
public
who
cares
to
talk
to
this
committee
at
this
time?