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F
Good
morning,
commissioners,
good
morning,
my
name
is
catherine
kennedy,
I'm
from
lake
orion.
Some
of
you
know
me
not
by
now
and
again,
the
lack
of
transparency
to
the
public
is
very
concerning
the
fact
that
the
last
meeting
was
899
page
agenda
that
I
couldn't
even
access
until
that
morning,
because
it
was
all
transferred
to
the
new
system
is
very
problematic.
F
It's
not
very
transparent
and
I
still
do
not
see
a
way
how,
in
the
new
system,
version
numbers
or
dates
and
times
when
they're
actually
executed
is
possible.
I
would
like
to
know
about
that.
I'm
also
concerned
about
the
it
seems
to
overall
defund
the
police.
The
sheriff
got
cut,
a
million
and
a
half
board
gets
a
couple
million,
there's
so
much
money
flying
around
here
without
accountability.
F
F
This
is
so
misguided
and
the
fact
that
the
feds
gave
us
all
this
money
inappropriately
they
even
changed
the
formulas
so
that
the
people
that
lost
the
most
jobs
in
the
state
got
the
most
money.
I
don't
know
how
many
are
aware
of
that,
but
they
literally
change
the
formulas
to
benefit
those
who
cause
the
most
job
losses
on
a
state-by-state
basis,
which
is
why
california
did
so
well.
New
york
did
so
well
and
we're
facing
now.
F
Another
time
with
this
issue
of
the
immigration
being
so
lacks.
Our
entire
country
is
its
extreme
risk
of
security
issues,
self-imposed
national
security
issues,
self-imposed
financial
issues
and
we're
following
suit
in
this
county.
If
we
stay
on
that
direction,
the
fact
that
you're
increasing
jobs
at
the
county
level
when
we've
lost
so
many
businesses-
and
so
many
are
suffering
during
this
coba
time.
Why
are
we
increasing
property
taxes
so
much,
and
why
is
it
so
disparaging
the
3.84
in
a
year
of
pandemic?
F
F
So
I
hope
and
pray
that
this
commission
opens
its
eyes
and
starts
to
realize
the
citizens
do
not
want
the
sheriff
to
be
reduced.
We
want
full
funding
of
our
sheriff
department.
We
want
training,
we
want
him
to
have
the
ability
to
recruit,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
have
been
taken
away
from
this
sheriff
department
and
he
is
so
critical
to
our
entire
area,
and
we
really
need
to
be
very
careful
these
little
welcoming
week,
proposals
and
all
these
resolutions
that
are
just
backing
up.
F
A
Anyone
else
here
for
public
comment,
seeing
no
one.
I
will
close
public
comment
at
this
time
and
we
will
move
into
item
number
seven,
our
budget
hearings
and
we
have
before
us
our
last
budget
hearing
for
emergency
management
and
homeland
security
and
before
us
we
have
tom
hardesty
and
the
folks
he
brought
with
him.
So
please
introduce
your
team
and
tell
us
what
you
want
to
tell
us.
G
I
will
good
morning,
commissioners,
thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
come
back
here.
My
apologies.
Last
week
we
got
a
bit
tied
up
with
other
events
on
campus,
so
we
appreciate
you
giving
us
time
again.
As
you
know,
we
made
an
adjustment
this
year
that
changed
realignment
with
departments,
so
this
will
be
our
first
time
with
the
emergency
management
and
homeland
security
department,
that
is,
with
two
divisions:
the
emergency
management
division
led
by
rob
seely
and
the
building
safety
division
led
by
mike
crum.
G
So
I
wanted
to
give
them
each
just
a
few
seconds
to
come
up.
Give
you
a
quick
overview
of
their
divisions
and
then
we'll
we'll
delve
a
little
deeper
into
things.
B
Good
morning,
commissioners,
I'm
rob
seeley
the
chief
of
emergency
management.
Thank
you
for
listening
to
us
today.
Currently
we
have
nine
positions
in
emergency
management.
That's
traditionally
what
we've
had
for
many
years.
We
also
have
six
additional
positions
right
now.
Those
have
been
borrowed
from
other
parts
of
the
county.
B
Those
are
for
coveted
reasons,
so
they're
running
our
warehouse
and
doing
other
things.
We
have
two
parts
of
our
our
staff.
One
is
emergency
management.
One
is
our
warehouse
in
emergency
management.
We
currently
monitor
and
maintain
276
sirens.
We
do
county
drills
with
building
safety.
We
run
our
emergency
operations
center
and
our
program,
that's
called
okoc.
B
B
We
have
our
local
emergency
planning
committee,
that
does
things
with
our
hazard
hazard,
hazardous
materials
in
the
county
and
we're
in
the
process-
and
I
know
mr
harrison
will
talk
about
it-
of
gaining
the
incident
management
team
from
the
county
to
our
staff.
We
also
are
running
the
warehouse.
We
have
currently
moved
into
a
lease
space
that
is
25
000
square
feet
in
which
we
are
storing.
B
All
the
ppe
that
we
are
still
providing
to
doctors,
dentists,
offices,
long-term
carers
throughout
the
county,
as
well
as
our
county
offices
and
county
folks,
we
have
purchased
a
box
truck,
that's
allowing
us
to
do
those
deliveries
and
make
those
deliveries
releasing
three
vans
and
we
have
six
trailers.
The
three
bands
releasing
is
just
from
motor
pool
they're
internal
oakland,
county
vehicles
that
aren't
being
used
and
we're
currently
in
the
process
of
getting
an
inventory
management
system
for
that
warehouse.
B
H
H
We
have
24-hour
dispatch
center
in
building
safety
that
helps
with
the
water
resource
commission,
with
facilities
management
and
also
with
emergency
management.
We
also
have
staff
inside
of
county
buildings
after
hours,
and
we
make
sure
that
there
are
no
maintenance
issues
or
security
issues
inside
those
buildings.
We
do
that
24
hours
a
day
and
on
the
weekends,
and
then
we
have
a
component
of
building
safety
that
does
our
security
cameras,
our
access
control
and
any
alarms
on
campus.
G
You
thanks
now.
I
know
your
budget
you're
only
seeing
the
emergency
management
side
with
the
reorg
building
safety
is
still
financially
under
facilities
and
maintenance
due
to
them
working
in
in
more
of
an
enterprise
system,
but
I
wanted
to
have
them
here.
I
know
mike,
and
I
were
here
during
facilities
budget,
but
I
know
you're
focused
on
other
things.
So
if
you
had
questions
that
way,
we
could
answer
them,
but
the
so
financially
they're
still
in
two
different
budget
places
that
you'll
see
those.
I
know
when
rob
mentioned
staff
earlier.
Those
are.
G
We
haven't
technically
added
any
staff,
they're
working
off
end
tech
contracts
with
emergency
services
and
that's
you'll
actually
notice
in
our
budget,
for
example,
our
professional
services
is
well
over
budget.
Well,
that's
all
that
we're
seeking
fema
reimbursement,
for
which
I
we
brought
to
the
committee
last
time
as
well,
for
some
of
those
temporary
assignments
to
handle
duties
specifically
related
to
the
pandemic.
G
G
So
that's
a
group
of
people
that
have
been
trained
come
out
together
to
help
during
major
incidents.
Some
of
that
team
responded
here
to
white
lake.
During
the
tornado
they
went
to
midland.
They
were
actually
at
the
tcf
center
in
detroit
during
the
pandemic.
G
So
right
now
it's
it's
kind
of
been
used
by
half
the
county
so
to
bring
that
group
under
the
emergency
management,
which
was
actually
at
the
request
of
those
groups,
will
help
make
this
a
resource
that's
available
to
the
entire
county.
G
The
general
annual
expenses
are
actually
pretty
low,
they're
in
the
neighborhood
of
30
to
40
000
for
equipment
maintenance,
but
by
bringing
that
group
under
the
county,
we
would
have
the
opportunity
to
then
turn
around
and
bill
back
for
some
of
those
things.
For
example,
just
the
tcf
center
alone
would
have
had
the
ability
to
recoup
more
than
thirty
thousand
dollars
from
fema
for
those
costs
if
the
team
were
organized
under
us.
So,
while
we
certainly
hope
that
team
won't
be
needed
much,
they
are
a
tremendous
benefit
to
any.
G
It
would
be
a
tremendous
benefit
to
any
city,
village
or
township
in
the
county
during
a
major
incident
to
help
manage
that.
G
The
other
reason
I
wanted
to
bring
both
here
is
most
of
the
the
we
did
not
fortunately,
kyle
and
linda
allowed
us
not
to
have
to
to
seek
a
three
percent
personnel
cost
with
only
nine
full-time
employees.
We
would
be
cutting
more
than
10
percent
to
just
cut
an
individual
in
right
now
during
the
pandemic
and
with
the
weather
we're
seeing.
G
That
would
certainly
be
a
difficult
time
for
us,
so
we
were
fortunate
that
they
gave
us
a
bit
of
a
a
waiver
on
that
point
and
then,
as
we
look
to
combine
the
two
departments,
we're
actually
looking
to
take
one
of
our
part-time
spots,
that
would
help
work
for
both
so
we're
looking
to
move
safety
into
our
building,
and
then
we
would
have
one
person
who
would
handle
ids
on
the
safety
side.
She
already
works,
handling,
assert
title
three
material
plans,
all
those
kind
of
things.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Yeah
you
have
a
newly
restructured
department,
so
getting
it
going
is.
G
A
G
I
Morning,
good
morning
and
welcome
to
you
and
your
team
on
the
safety
side
of
it,
do
you?
How
do
you
interface
with
the
sheriff.
G
You
can
come
on
up
too,
so
one
of
the
they're
able
to
to
monitor
for
sheriff's
dispatch,
sheriff's
dispatch
will
contact
them.
They
have
different
missions.
You
know
the
sheriff's
department
is
handling
criminal
complaints.
Emergency
calls
safety
is
handling
so,
for
example,
during
the
storms,
the
sheriff's
office
is
very
busy
getting
911
calls
on
lines
down
and
those
kind
of
things
they're
handling
hundreds
of
phone
calls
for
the
water
resource
commission
for
water
and
basements
one.
G
One
of
the
other
reasons
that
we've
proposed
to
move
safety
into
our
building
is,
we
would
actually
put
safety's
dispatch
across
the
hall
from
sheriff's
dispatch
and
while
certainly
you
can
pick
up
a
phone
and
call
sometimes
it's
just
being
close
to
each
other,
the
ability
to
communicate.
Sometimes
it's
not
while
things
are
going
on
to
be
able
to
talk
but
to
be
able
to
walk
across
the
hall
when
there
are
issues,
so
they
have
different
missions,
but
they
work
together.
H
No
thank
you.
We
we
support
them
every
way
that
we
can
from
any
calls
on
complex
and
with
the
cameras
we
are
helping
them
to
to
get
the
information
they
need
from
all
the
security
cameras
on
campus.
So
there's
a
good
inter
collaboration
and
integration
between
the
two
and
we
on
the
911
college
of
the
emergency
calls
we're
there
to
support
that.
I
H
We
do
we
have
safety
attendants
in
the
building
and
they're
they're,
helping
with
some
of
the
doors,
but
for
the
emergencies
the
sheriff
would
would
handle
the
call
and-
and
we
would
support
them
and
help
them
any
way
we
can.
We
are
monitoring
at
the
same
time.
Yes
thank.
I
A
A
D
G
Falls
on
they
they
fall
under
the
sheriff's
office.
Those
inside
fall
under.
I
believe
it's
captain
mcclellan
and
lieutenant
tovar
who
handle
all
of
the
deputies
that
are
inside
the
buildings.
Now
that
doesn't
mean
again
that
we
don't
communicate.
You
know
with
the
incident
last
week
at
the
health
department,
I'm
meeting
with
lieutenant
tovar
who's,
the
the
the
complex
lieutenant
and
we're
we're
talking
about.
You
know
what
are
the
best
things
that
we
need
to
do
we're
using
the
cameras,
we're
talking
about
building
problem.
You
know:
do
we
need
to
lock
down
the
building?
D
G
D
A
J
Yeah
thank
you
chair.
I
was,
and
this
might
be
a
longer
conversation
offline,
but
I
was
just
curious.
I
realized
when
looking
through
this
and
hearing
what
you
said,
you're
a
department
of
nine
and
you
do
management
of
emergencies.
So
your
ability
to
I
guess
kind
of
balloon
up
in
a
crisis
is
important
and
local
help
seems
to
be
important
and
having
those
relationships,
and
you
mentioned
kind
of
working
with
half
the
county
in
ways.
G
So
to
to
your
first
part
about
the
staffing
in
that
division,
integration
and
coordination
is,
is
really
what
we
do
so
the
the
eoc
is
set
for
more
than
40
and
that's
not
all
our
staff.
So,
for
example,
the
one
of
the
ferndale
fire
chief,
the
last
fire
chief,
was
a
a
fire
representative
that
would
come
to
the
eoc.
G
So
during
the
pandemic
he
spent
some
time
in
our
eoc
or
virtually
on
meetings,
helping
with
coordination
in
in
response
to
that
and
that
that's
how
we
we
force,
multiply
the
same
four
departments
and
divisions
within
the
county.
So
the
pandemic
is
a
health
emergency,
so
health
department
might
be
the
lead
in
that,
but
it's
a
county-wide
event.
Yes,
it's
a
health
emergency,
but
it's
a
county-wide
event.
So
now
we're
we're
helping
work
around
those
other
groups
to
support
health
and
the
things
that
they
might
need.
A
rabid
mentioned
staff.
G
So
you
know
one
department
or
one
division
like
children's
village
that
was
going
through
because
of
the
pandemic
may
not
have
had
work
or
staffing
for
people
at
that
time,
then
they
loaned
them
out
and
they're
they're,
helping
at
vaccine
sites
that
are
helping
in
the
warehouse
they're
doing
other
things.
So
that's
why
you
know
we're
able
to
get
by
with
not
having
a
huge
staff,
because
it's
a
lot
about
planning
for
the
future.
G
So
as
far
as
incidents
in
ferndale,
you
know,
we've
had
hazardous
material
spills
in
in
the
south
end
of
the
county,
the
the
you
know
the
famous
green
news
in
madison
heights,
which
fortunately
were
not
done
with
gaps
but
have
made
a
long
ways
through
incidents
such
as
the
arts
beats
and
eats
and
woodward
dream
crows.
Those
are
all
major
events
that
that
planning
that
we're
involved
in
as
well
so
the
the
imt
specifically
was
is
the
one
piece
that's
part
of
it,
but
we
work
routinely
with
agencies
all
over
the
county.
J
Okay,
thanks
and
just
curious,
no
nevermind
nevermind,
I'm
done
yeah
thanks.
Okay,.
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
tom
and
your
team.
Thank
you
very
much.
My
question.
I
get
budget-related
specific
things,
so
I
know
we're
still
going
through
the
fema
reimbursement
for
the
10
million.
Yes,
we
set
aside.
Do
we
have
any
idea
when
that
do
we
expect
that
that
whole
10
million
to
be
reimbursed?
Do
we?
I
know
we
were
looking
for
potentially
some
state
dollars.
I
know
that
some
of
that's
caught
up
in
legislative
action,
freelancing.
K
That's
me
reconfigure.
All
right,
I
was
asking
about
kind
of
the
status
of
our
fema
reimbursement
for
the
our
for
our
pandemic
response
across
the
county
organization,
but
specifically
for
the
10
million
dollars
that
we
advanced
to
make
certain
that
I
mean
we
could
do
the
things
that
we've
been
doing
over
the
last
18
months
or
so
so.
Could
you
elaborate
a
little
bit
about
where
we
are
on
that
in
that
process?
Certainly.
G
I've
not
been
able
to
find
out
from
them
whether
they
think
it
might
be
a
month
six
months
or
two
years.
They
will
give
no
timeline
on
that.
So
it's
the
states
of
fema
is
the
the
keeper
of
the
funds
and
they
go
through
some
preliminary
and
then
it
goes
to
the
state
and
the
state
is
the
one
that
actually
puts
together
the
grant
package
and
hands
it
to
us
so
prior
to
that
they're
reviewing
all
that
5.1
million
in
ppe
and
we
have
to
make
sure
that
it
fits
the
fema
guidelines
yeah.
G
You
know
it's
got
to
be
they're
a
little
lighter
in
this
case
than
normal,
but
generally
for
public,
meaning
public,
like
cities,
villages
and
townships.
In
this
case
they
allowed
healthcare
workers,
but
not
for
the
general
public.
So
there's
a
lot
of
of
detail
that
they
go
through
and
look
at
that,
so
I
would
expect
that
it
would
be
upwards
of
another
year.
I
would
not
be
surprised
before
you
know
we.
G
K
All
right,
it's
I
mean
working
its
way
through
the
process.
The
next
question
is
related
to
this,
of
the
1.7
of
that
10
million
that
we
haven't
allocated
yet-
and
I
don't
know
if
you're
the
right
person
or
if
someone
else
from
the
administration
is
better
suited.
K
Are
we
rolling
that
money
over
to
continue,
or
I
mean
how
is
that
being
reconciled
in
this
budget?
This
is
the
balance
of
the
the
original
initial
10
million
dollars
we
set
aside
to
do
pandemic
response.
Are
we
planning?
Are
we
going
to
continue
that
moving
forward
planning
to
add
to
that
in
the
same
structure
that
it
currently
is
so.
B
You
know
we're
you
know
I
provided
an
update
to
this
committee
last
week.
Obviously
you
weren't
here
you
know
so
we're
sorting
through
you
know
all
of
the
fun
sources
that
have
run
through
the
county
for
response
to
the
pandemic.
Over
the
last
year.
Between
fema
cares
act.
You
know
grants
the
health
department
has
received
the
10
million
of
general
fund
for
the
pandemic
committee
and
then
looking
at
you
know
what
costs
we
need
to
start
funding
with
arp
dollars.
B
B
G
K
But
the
committee
is
authorized
to
release
those
files
per
request.
Yes
right,
correct,
no,
there
hasn't
been
any
additional
requests.
I
bring
it
up
and
I
know
there's
been
some
conversation
around.
I
mean,
as
I'm
a
younger
people
eligible
for
vaccine
and
like
should
we
be
using
some
of
those
dollars
to
help.
I
mean
bolster
that
communicate
and
I
mean
support
those
efforts
as
well
as
address
any
other
vaccine.
K
Hesitancy
to
I
mean
raise
the
rates
across
across
the
county,
and
those
are
conversations
can
work
out
through
this
process
and
making
certain
that
again,
the
resources
are
there
and
we're
maximizing
the
resources
to
get
through
this
pandemic
related
we
relate,
I
mean,
can
it
relate
to
the
pandemic
response?
We
have
the
facility
we're
stocking
up
with
ppe.
That's
why,
like
the
biggest
like
focus-
and
I
mean
I've-
had
an
opportunity-
I've
driven
by
it,
but
I
have
not
been
in
it,
but
I've
you've
got
an
incredible
team
running
things.
K
Can
you
give
us
an
update,
I
mean:
do
we
have
enough
space
to
be
able
to
handle
the
ppe
acquisition,
that's
needed
to
help
support
and
specifically,
do
we
have
enough
mass
in
circulation
to
help
make
sure
that
schools
and
others
have
access
to
these
to
this
ppe
and
that
they're
not
on
their
own,
trying
to
figure
out
what
they're
going
to
do.
G
The
the
space
is
actually
perfect.
It's
almost
exactly
the
size
that
we
were
looking
at
and
and
rob
who
has
a
long
history
of
logistics,
not
just
here
but
with
the
air
national
guard
and
working
at
the
state.
Eoc
was
was
a
great
help
in
this,
but
the
warehouse
is
a
perfect
size
we
are
in.
I
call
it
in
good
shape.
With
ppe
we've
been
ordering
just
minor
things,
occasionally
some
gloves
or
some
particular
size
mask.
G
We
could
still
get
a
couple
hundred
two
to
three
hundred
orders
a
week.
Right
now
and
we
continue
to
fill
those-
the
state
still
has
been
supplying
some
ppe
when
we
need
it
for
certain
items,
so
we
can
continue
to
put
those
in
the
hands
of
those
that
need
them.
K
Great
two
more
questions,
madam
chair.
I
want
to
shift
a
little
bit
to
elections.
Certainly
I
mean
the
last
election.
We
entered
some
unprecedented
time:
lots
of
media
reports
and
just
anecdotal
conversations
with
local
clerks
and
election
workers
and
some
of
the
disappointing
threats
on
their
lives
and
everything.
So
I'm
looking
to
this
november,
but
certainly
2022
from
a
homeland
security
perspective.
K
K
Along
with
armed
caravans,
to
I
mean
in
in
confrontations
of
individual
election
workers-
and
so
I
mean
I'm-
I
am
concerned
from
a
security
point
of
view,
and
and
do
we
have
do
we
have
the
resources
are
we
I
mean
putting
in
some
preliminary
plans
to
have
contingencies,
put
in
place
in
coordination,
obviously
with
local
law
enforcement.
K
To
prepare
for
these
type
of
events
that,
at
least
at
this
moment
in
history,
are,
are
intense
and
passions
on
strong
passions
on
all
sides
of
the
issues.
Yeah,
that's
going
forward.
G
Our
role
is
with
anything
as
we
look
at
an
all
hazards.
Approach
is
helping
with
planning
and
preparation,
we're,
not
the
security.
The
sheriff's
office
handles
that
either
in
their
areas
or
local
law
enforcement
and
theirs.
But,
yes,
we
have
regular
communications
with
the
church,
clerk's
office
and
the
chief
of
elections.
G
There
are
alternate
communication
things
you
know
with
the
phones
go
down.
If
this
goes
down,
we
always
look
to
go
three
deep,
so
we
have
had
some
of
those
discussions
we'll
we'll
continue
to
work
through
those
plans
and
again
we
communicate
routinely
with
the
sheriff's
office
if
it
gets
into
any
whether
cyber
threats
right
now
is
always
a
concern.
G
We
have
been
working
with
the
I.t
department
and
the
I.t
security
division,
as
we
work
through
some
table
tops
and
plantings.
We
have
a
call
this
afternoon
with
them
at
two
o'clock
talking
about
our
eoc
software
management
and
how
do
we
make
sure
that
that's
resilient
and
up
and
running
so
to
answer
your
question?
Yes
with
them
and
with
all
the
little
pieces
that
kind
of
feed
into
that
like
it
and
those
things
to
make
sure
that
we're
as
prepared
as
we
can
be
right.
K
And
I
mean
I
guess
along
those
lines,
and
I
mean
I
hope
it
goes
without
saying
that
if
there
are
additional
resources
needed
either
to
support
manpower
equipment,
what
have
you
to
ensure
that
our
elections
remain?
I
mean
the
safest
and
I
mean
I'm
prepared
to
spare
no
expense
to
make
certain
that
we
have
that,
and
so
please
always
feel
free
to
bring
those
requests
forward,
and
I
mean
we,
I
mean
we'll
work
towards
trying
to
find
a
way
to
make.
Those
things
happen
to
be
a
model.
G
We
certainly
certainly
appreciate
that.
Not
on
this
really
every
topic
the
board
has
been
supportive.
My
my
general
philosophy
has
always
been
not
to
ask
for
it
up
front
and
then
try
to
put
a
plan
together
but
to
work
through
a
plan,
look
at
what
we
really
need
and
how
we
might
use
it
and
then
come
forward
with
that
request.
Great.
K
And
then
the
last
thing
I
mean
around,
I
mean
some
of
the
severe
weather
that
we've
had
of
late
with
floodings
and
power
outages
and
all
those
types
of
things.
How
does
our?
How
does
our
homeland
security
interface?
With
that
I
mean?
Do
we
up?
Do
we
activate
the
operation
center
when
those
type
of
events
happen
to
help
with
the
coordination
and
working
with
the
utilities?
K
I
know
I
mean
I
remember
as
if
it
was
yesterday,
the
great
flood
of
2014,
and
I
hear
horrifying
stories
because
of
the
intensities
of
storms,
that
the
basin
of
water
is
filling
up
at
a
faster
rate
than
ever
before.
It's
just
thank
goodness,
and
this
year
those
storms
have
been
shorter
in
duration
than
others,
and
so
I
mean
with
these
I
mean
these
climate
change
events
that
are
happening.
What
I
guess
like
how
I
mean,
how
are
we
interfacing
and
again?
K
Are
we
amply
funded
and
resourced
to
support
local
communities,
local
response
and
working
with
I
mean
all
these
all
the
entities
that
play
a
role
in
all
this.
G
G
That's
who
activates
the
weather,
sirens
safety,
which
I
think
one
of
the
reasons
the
determination
to
put
the
two
on
the
scene
department,
is
the
backup
there.
They
they
have
the
ability
to
activate
those
as
well,
if
need
be.
If
for
some
reason
we
have
an
issue,
but
yes,
for
example,
during
the
the
tornado
event
in
white
lake,
there
were
staff
at
the
eoc
rob
was
actually
leading
it.
G
Then
we
had
mr
kowal
actually
spent
some
time
at
the
eoc
there
when
they
had
some
limited
communication
and
power
abilities
at
their
site,
but
but
again,
that's
where
our
the
integration.
So
what
resources
might
they
need?
You
know:
where
can
we
find
those
resources?
G
That's
really
our
role
is
helping
coordinate
if
you
had
that
same
event
that
hit
five
communities.
You
know,
and
now
we've
got
to
find
those
resources,
maybe
even
from
outside
the
county,
because
they're
all
being
used
up.
You
know
how
do
we
get
them?
Where
do
we
get
them
to
first,
sometimes
having
to
make
those
difficult
choices?
Where
do
they
get
to
first
and
helping
them
get
there?
So
it's
it's
a
back
to
the
the
same
issue
that
you
will
hear
us
harp
on,
which
is
preparation,
planning
and
and
training.
G
You
know
the
the
tabletops
that
that
we
push
to
do
we'll
be
coming
to
you
later
this
year,
with
our
hazard
mitigation
grant,
which
is
the
grant
to
help
us
evaluate
what
hazards
are
out
there,
look
at
those
prioritize
those
and
then
look
at
how
how
how
do
we
respond
and
address
those?
Because,
again,
our
philosophy
is
always
going
to
be
an
all
hazards
approach.
G
If
we
have
an
urban
search
and
rescue
team,
they
might
be
useful
to
building
collapse
so,
whether
that
building
collapsed
from
water,
it
collapsed
from
fire
or
collapsed
from
a
terrorism
event,
not
trying
to
minimize
why
that
might
be.
But
the
focus
is
that
we
have
that
team.
We
know
how
to
get
that
team
there
and
they
know
how
to
do
what
they
need
to
do
when
that
building
collapses.
So
we're
always
looking
at
all
those
approaches
and
how
we
can
integrate
them
together.
In
that
response,
great.
E
Yes,
thank
you
miss
chair.
Hopefully
you
can
hear
me.
Okay,
I
do
want
to
mention
to
be
in
compliance
with
the
open
meetings,
act
that
I
am
in
the
beautiful
city
of
southfield
in
the
beautiful
county
of
oakland
and
participating
remotely
on
an
abundance
of
caution.
So
that
is
why
I'm
not
there
due
to
health.
I
do
want
to
ask
mr
hardesty
and
it's
great
to
see
you
your
shoulders.
The
back
of
your
jacket.
E
I
wanted
to
double
check
with
you
and
I
guess
I'm
asking
for
a
little
bit
of
privilege
here,
which
is
just
simply
that
I
know
it
may
not
be
contained
in
this
budget
highlight.
But
you
know
back
on
august
3rd,
the
governor
declared
the
state
of
emergency.
Like
I
said,
I'm
not
sure
if
chairman
woodward's
question
alluded
to
this,
but
I
was
just
curious
for
four
residents
in
farmington,
farmington
hills
and
south
field
that
were
covered
in
that
in
that
emergency
declaration.
E
Do
you
have
any
recommendations
on
what
residents
should
do?
Is
there
somewhere
they
should
visit
online?
Is
there
a
number?
They
should
call?
How
is
oakland
county
working
through
that
system,
because
it
says
homeland
security
and
emergency
management
will
be
able
to
get
additional
resources.
If
you
can
speak
to
that,
thank
you.
G
G
We
have
seen
it
for
some
in
michigan
the
state
when
the
state
issues
a
declaration,
it's
only
when
the
federal
government
has
it
so
the
the
state
will
not
provide
they
call
it
section.
19
funding
part
of
that
state
statute
says
only
if
the
federal
government
did
not
declare
and
is
not
going
to
provide
money.
G
So
with
the
federal
government,
there
are
two
different
pieces:
there's
funds
for
communities
for
government
and
there
are
funds
for
people.
So
with
some
flooding
in
june
there
has
been
some
discussion
and
you
may
have
seen
that
the
governor
asked
the
federal
government
to
add
oakland
and
macomb
counties.
That's
for
individual
assistance
looking
to.
If
there
were
people
who
had
major
or
destroyed
homes
damaged
that
they
could
seek
individual
assistance.
G
So
I
say
all
that:
to
get
back
to
the
state
declaration
for
farmington,
farmington
hills
and
south
field,
there
was
no
federal
declaration,
so
there
is
no
individual
assistance.
The
declaration
is
state
funding
to
help
those
communities
with
the
cost
that
they
might
have
incurred
for
overtime
for
public
safety,
police
fire
dpw.
That
came
out
for
some
of
the
cleanup
costs
and
they
will
help
reimbursement
them
for
that
and
there's
a
formula
based
on
the
amount
of
money
they
spent
their
city's
budget
and
some
the
size
of
the
city
that
work
into
that.
G
G
E
That
that
helps
greatly-
and
if
I
may
chair
mr
hardesty,
do
most
municipalities
already
know
that
and
have
like
a
point
person
who,
I
guess
my
question
is
just
simply.
Is
that
widely
known
that
cities
would
have
to
municipalities
would
have
to
do
the
reaching
out
because,
for
example,
the
park,
the
big
wonderful
inglenook
park
on
12
mile
had
at
least
a
dozen
trees
fall,
and
so
would
that
be
an
example
where
the
city
would
reach
out
to
say
you
guys
just
add
at
supports
for
dpw.
G
Yeah,
so
that
justin
beck
is
the
emergency
manager
in
southfield.
He
does
a
great
job
there
are.
I
don't
want
to
get
too
far
in
the
weeds.
There
are
four
communities
in
the
county.
Actually,
a
fifth
one.
Waterford
was
added
who
who
have
a
bit
of
a
unique
relationship
there
of
a
size
and
a
time
that
they
can
actually
go
directly
with
the
state
and
they
don't
have
to
go
through
us
all,
the
other
ones
do.
Although
the
reality
is,
we
work
very
closely
and
very
well
with
all
of
them.
G
So
so
we
did
send
up
a
letter
in
support
of
southfield
their
declaration,
but
but
yeah
we
each
community
has
a
designated
emergency
manager
that
they
have
to
report
that
to
us.
So
we
have
somebody
that
we
know
we
can
communicate
this
information
with
regularly.
I
Well,
thank
you.
This
brings
to
mind
that
during
that
last
flooding
there
were
residents,
that's
really
suffered.
I
know
in
particular,
there
was
a.
There
were
two
diabetic
families
who
who
their
insulin
was,
was
ruined
and
they
didn't
have
the
funding
to
to
replace,
and
you
were
great.
I
Yeah,
maybe
I
know
that
county
executive
coulter
has
a
meeting
set
up
with
dte
because
I'm
kind
of
thinking-
maybe
it
would
be
some
sort
of
reimbursement
program
that
I'll
mention
at
that
meeting.
But
I
I
I
know
I
have
talked
to
you
about
this
before,
but
I
think
that
this
last
storm
showed
that
there
are
residents
that
really
are
impacted
and
need
immediate
assistance,
and
certainly
that's
an
emergency.
I
A
D
A
Okay,
we
have
a
unanimous
vote
to
receive
and
file
your
report.
Thank
you
for
coming
before
us
today.
It
was
very
informative.
A
B
I
don't
think
we
have
any
any
comments
we
just
want
to
be
available
for
for
questions
or
discussion
on
the
amendments.
I
I
will
say
that
you
on
the
website
and
hand
it
out
to
each
of
you
as
a
copy
of
the
updated
amendment
list.
B
The
changes
since
the
last
meeting
that
have
taken
place
are
item
b3,
which
is
shifting
a
position
that
was
requested
with
the
budget
in
the
sheriff's
office.
Instead
of
being
a
position,
it
was
suggested
to
be
a
contracted
service
under
the
professional
services
budget
of
the
sheriff's
office.
So
that's
b3,
so
there's
no
net
impact
to
the
overall
budget.
It's
reducing
the
personnel
budget
and
putting
it
in
professional
services
within
the
sheriff's
office
and
then,
since
the
last
meeting.
B
C
9
through
13
are
requests
that
were
submitted
by
the
board
of
commissioners
for
various
items,
so
c9.
K
B
B
Yeah
right
now.
F
A
A
K
So
I'll
move
amendments
in
section
a
again,
these
are
the
technical
amendments
as
a
result
of
any
activities
since
the
the.
K
Yes,
board
resolution
since
the
presentation
july
1.,
so
I'll
move
a.
A
Okay
and
supported
by
commissioner
cola:
do
we
have
any
discussion
on
section
a.
K
All
right,
yeah,
I
don't
mean
come
in
my
chair,
I
mean
these
are
again.
These
are
resolutions
have
been
adopted
by
the
board
since
the
start,
they've
been
capturing,
grant
dollars
have
come
in
and
accounting
of
expenses
that
were
not
cut.
I
mean
part
of
the
original
one.
A
C
A
Themselves,
okay,
so
these
are
all
resolutions
that
have
already
been
passed.
Okay,
so
I
think
we
can
prompt
the
vote
on
section
a.
B
A
D
A
K
A
Okay,
so
the
motion
is
to
break
this
out
and
approve
section
items
one
through
eight
under
section
c.
I
need
a
second
to
that
motion.
Commissioner
cavell.
Any
discussion.
A
J
A
A
K
Well
I'll
start,
and
I
mean
I
guess
in
turn:
do
we
won
I'm
not
completely
sure
of
what
this
additional
30
000
would
be
used
for
addressing
literacy,
improving
literacy?
And
I
imagine
this
is
specifically
to
the
oakland
county
literacy
council.
As
we
have
already,
we
do
provide
some
sustainable
funding
for
them
one.
How
is
this
integrated
with
workforce
development
and
the
oakland
80,
which
I
mean?
K
I
think
we
should
have
that
conversation,
and
I
I
mean
our
one
of
our
past
colleagues
or
those
who
served
before
with
commissioner
taub,
and
I
had
a
conversation
a
couple
months
ago
that
led
to
a
conversation
with
the
executive
director
of
the
literacy
council
and,
in
fact,
asked
her
to
put
together
a
proposal
that
looks
at
eligibility
of
potential
arpa
dollars
to
do
something
even
more
robust
than
this,
and
I
just
think
there
needs
to
be
some
additional
conversations
before
I
mean
approving
this.
K
So
I'm
going
to
be
voting
no
right
now,
not
no
against
the
idea
and
not
against
the
plan,
but
until
we
see
a
plan
to
see
how
it
integrates
and
builds
on
the
things
that
we
currently
are
doing
and
what
are
the
goals
and
anticipated
impact
of
these
additional
dollars
to
increase
services
and
improve
literacy
across
oakland
county?
I'm
going
to
vote
no
now,
but
I
mean
happy
to
work
with.
I
mean
those
really.
I
A
See
the
literacy
item
as
a
piece
of
that.
A
Let
me
just
stop
here
for
a
second
and
kind
of
fill
everybody
else
in
on
on
the
discussions
that
we've
been
having
between
the
chairman
and
management
and
budget
and
some
different
folks,
and
some
of
you
from
my
caucus
know
that
we've
been
trying
to
move
in
this
direction.
A
Last
year,
the
board
of
commissioners
spent
1.3
million
dollars
on
various
projects,
whether
it
was
better
for
breakfast
or
trees
or
the
lights
out
at
waterford
oaks.
All
of
those
were
expenses
they
added
up
to
about
1.3
million
dollars,
but
it
was
hard.
It
is
hard
to
go
through
our
budget
and
see
where
all
of
those
are
so
I've
been
talking
with
various
folks
to
say:
can
we
make
this
more
standard
and
transparent?
A
So
the
democratic
caucus
has
a
whole
list
of
items
that
they
want.
You
know
ideas
that
the
different
commissioners
have
for
things
they
want
put
into
the
budget.
The
republican
caucus
sent
me
a
letter
yesterday
with
you
know
a
list
of
their
items,
and
the
thought
is
that
we
don't
have
to
get
them
all
approved
in
the
next
two
weeks
that,
in
fact,
let's
put
a
process
together
whereby
we
have
a
standard
set
of
how
you
go
about
getting
this
funding
moved
forward.
A
A
A
I'm
wondering
if
it
should
fall
into
that
bigger
picture
of
funding.
I
mean
chances,
are
we'll
go
ahead
and
fund
it,
even
if
we
do
it
in
a
little
different
structure
because
we're
all
talking
about
supporting
it.
It's
just
do
we
increase
the
line
item
in
the
budget
this
year,
for
it
separately,
I
think,
is
the
question
for
number
nine
commissioner
kowal.
C
Thank
you
and
chair
I'd
be
a
little
bit
concerned
that
there
would
be
a
gap
in
funding
in
that
regard,
although-
and
this
was
done
in
conjunction
with
our
workforce-
development,
jennifer
llewellyn,
we've
heard
instances
of
you
know,
we
all
know
that
jobs
need
to
be
filled
and
people
need
jobs,
but
certain
jobs
require
math
skills.
That
candidates
did
not
have
and
then,
of
course,
the
reading
skills
as
well.
C
So
that
was
the
impetus
behind
this
there's
all
kinds
of
stories
of
success
as
a
result
of
the
the
the
program
just
the
literacy
program,
just
the
ten
thousand
we
had
done
before
so
in
an
effort
to
reach
out
to
more
people,
and
I
certainly
think
it
speaks
to
the
oakland
80
objective:
to
increase
the
reading
part
to
20
000
then
add
the
math
literacy
for
20
000.
C
C
I
think
it's
more
than
a
worthy
endeavor.
I
think
you
should
have
all
received
the
piece
that
was
put
together
outlining
all
of
the
you
know,
pluses
of
this
program
and
the
objectives
of
this
program.
You
know
the
low
literacy
and
numeracy
cost
the
u.s
457.
457
billion.
You
know
it's
it's
a
problem
and
we
need
to
be
able
to
get
people.
C
It's
sad
how
some
people,
adults,
even
still
can't
read-
and
this
program
has
been
able
to
to
help
many
people
to
finally
be
able
to
read
and
be
able
to
function
in
their
lives
better,
as
well
as
obviously
be
able
to
qualify
for
jobs.
So
I
would
urge
that
we
go
ahead
and
adopt
this
today.
A
Okay-
and
I
see
commissioner
cavell
would
like
to
speak.
J
I
understand
the
commissioner
woodward's
concerns
or
questions
about
oakland
80,
but
to
echo
what
commissioner
colwell
said,
we
work
together
on
this,
and
this
is
a
good
idea
and
if
we're
thinking
about
oakland
80,
which
is
the
goal
to
get
80
of
us
to
have
post-secondary
education
or
certificates
of
some
sort,
that's
not
necessarily
giving
money
to
people
that
already
have
master's
degrees.
It's
helping
people
learn
up
that
need
math
and
language
support
to
then
be
able
to
get
to
the
place
where
they
can
get
a
post-secondary
certificate.
J
So
it
seems
like
it
tracks
with
oakland
80.,
with
the
concerns
about
arp,
totally
understand
that
maybe
we
could
come
back
for
a
bigger
ask
later.
That
sounds
very
compelling,
however,
to
what
commissioner
kowal
said.
People
got
to
get
paid
in
the
meantime,
while
we're
taking
our
time
figuring
out
how
to
use
that
arp
dollars,
which
then
also
leaves
a
question
for.
Is
that
a
priority
of
the
rest
of
the
commission
when
this
has
already
been
identified
as
something
here
now
and
then
the
last
thing
to
what
you
said,
commissioner
markham?
J
I
hear
what
you're
thinking
in
getting
this
all
organized
and
I
agree
with
that,
but
this
is
kind
of
the
like
we're
in
mid-stride
with
this.
So
my
perspective
on
this
is
we
worked
with.
Will
you
and
the
chair
worked
with
the
administration
to
get
1.3
million
dollars
set
aside?
Not
1.297
million
set
aside
right,
the
whatever
30
000
minus
1.3
is
that
we
don't
want
to
cut
ourselves
a
little
bit.
You
know.
A
A
I
So,
thank
you
so
just
to
clarify
for
me,
then
the
10
is
going
through
in
this
new
budget
yeah.
So
then
I
am
going
to
support
waiting
on
this
additional
30,
because
I
think
we
are
trying
to
put
a
process
in
place.
It's
not
as
if
they're
not
getting
money.
I
They
are
getting
the
the
line
item
we
we
will
hopefully
approve,
but
I
think
that
this
new
system,
we're
trying
to
establish,
will
help
us
all
we.
We
all
have
many
priorities.
I
consider
this
a
worthy
priority.
I
I
won't.
I
I
can't
imagine
not
supporting
this,
but
I
do
want
to
have
all
the
budget
priorities.
I
want
to
see
what
they
all
are.
I
want
to
review
it,
so
I
too
will
be
voting
no.
Today.
K
Oh
okay!
Well
I
I
already
spoke
one
so.
A
E
Thank
you
yeah.
I
see
only
my
name
as
a
requesting
speaking
for
this
particular
item.
E
So
for
me
this
is
a
little
disjointed,
we're
a
county
commission.
I
don't
know
who
we've
spoken
to
in
the
education
or
the
or
the
literary
field
who
has
given
us
some
direction.
30
000
may
not
be
enough,
so
I'm
I'm
a
little
uncom,
I'm
a
little
concerned
that
we're
not.
We
don't
have
the
buy-in,
or
at
least
I'm
not
aware
of
any
buy-in
yet
from
our
education
partners.
We
just
talked
last
week
about
the
importance
of
commissioners
taking
the
reins
for
these
types
of
things
that
we're
working
on.
E
I
I
feel
like
this
is
the
cart
being
put
before
the
horse,
because,
again
I
have
no
background
insight
into
how
we
arrived
at
the
dollar
amount
or
just
the
the
fidelity
of
the
program
in
and
of
itself.
Are
we
talking
about
55
year
olds?
Are
we
talking
about
people
older
than
that
younger
than
that?
I
just
really
need
more,
so
I'm
undecided
as
of
right
now,
I
guess
you'll
have
to
wait
for
the
vote.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Then,
commissioner
woodward,
for
a
second
time,
followed
by
commissioner
kowal
for
a
second
time.
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I
mean
I
think,
though
I
mean
the
point.
I
think
commissioner,
charles
I
mentioned
this
as
being
disjointed,
I
mean
I
think
it
summarizes,
like
my
general
thinking
in
support
of
improving
literacy
across
the
board,
for
the
entire
continuum
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
I
just
want
to
make
certain
that
we're
not
doing
things
that
are
redundant
and
that
we
are
maximizing
the
resources
and
really
set.
K
I
mean
having
a
clear
indication
and
an
evaluative
metric
to
ensure
this,
that
these
dollars
yield
improved
outcomes,
for
I
mean
the
targeted
audience
that
we're
seeking
to
do
so
again,
I
I'm
not-
I
mean
conceptually.
I
support
investing
more
resources
in
addressing
literacy
right
now,
I'm
going
to
be
voting,
no
encourage
commissioners
to
vote.
No,
we
can
continue
to
work
on
this
and
and
to
commission
charles
point,
I
think
it
warrants.
K
C
C
I
just
feel
like
this
has
been
under
discussion
for
a
bit
and
now
we're
kind
of
changing
things
midstream.
I
agree
going
forward
about
having
a
bit
more
deliberative
approach
to
some
of
these
things
and
setting
aside
a
a
number
and
then
figuring
out
what
fits
into
that,
and
I
do
agree
with
that.
Going
forward,
but
in
this
day
when
people
are
struggling
to,
you
know
people
that
you
know
we
want
people
to
come
back
to
work.
People
are
stopping
and
thinking
about.
Okay.
What
does
that
mean?
C
C
So
that's
what
this
program
is
geared
towards
and
we
work
through
the
oakland
literacy
council,
as
well
as
our
oakland
county
workforce
development
that
that's
jennifer
llewellyn.
I
believe-
and
I
it's
probably
somewhere
in
my
emails,
a
great
support
letter
that
she
sent
me,
but
that
was
quite
some
time
ago.
So
you
know
I'm
just
like
this
is
like
the
11th
hour
to
me
and
to
put
this
back
in
the
queue
right
now,
because
we're
thinking
of
changing
how
we
do
things
going
forward.
C
I'm
going
to
vote
yes
on
this
and
I'll
be
happy
to
work
going
forward
about
our
different
projects
that
we
want
under
the
board
of
commissioners,
and
probably
a
more
cohesive
approach
would
be
good,
but
I
would
really
it's
just
very
important,
I
believe,
to
this
success
of
this
county
and
to
people
who
just
are
trying
to
you
know
they
want
to
be
in
the
workforce.
They
want
to
be
accountable
for
themselves.
They
just
don't
have
the
skills
to
do
that
right
now,
so
I'm
going
to
vote.
Yes.
Thank
you.
C
E
Yes,
commissioner,
charles
yeah,
thank
you
guys.
Listen,
I'm
going
to
just
be
100
percent
here
and
just
say
I'd
like
to
hear
from
commissioner
mcgill
gillivary
if
that's
possible.
If
not,
I
understand.
D
I'm
going
to
be
voting
no
on
this
and
I'm
all
for
literacy,
but
I
guess
I'm
not
sure
where
exactly
this
is
going
and
for
what
purpose
I
mean
again,
I'm
I'm
all
for
getting
people
better
jobs
and
training
them
and-
and
I
like,
but
I
I
just
don't
see
the
direction
here.
I
mean
I've
got
one
line,
item
number
nine,
that's
here
and
it
doesn't
really
say
much.
J
Yes,
thanks
chair,
just
a
clarification
question:
what
we're
about
to
vote
on?
Is
we
vote?
Yes,
if
we
want
to
keep
the
forty
thousand
dollars
in
the
amendment
thirty
and
we
vote
no,
if
we
want
to
take
it
out
for
discussion
later
right,
okay,
I
want
to
vote
with
eileen.
I
want
to
vote
yes
if
I
said
no
before
my
bed.
A
A
D
A
Okay,
what
was
it?
The
motion
failed
three
to
five.
A
B
A
A
I
A
There's
matching
funds,
and
this
puts
fresh
roads
in
all
of
our
local
communities.
Nobody
has
signed
up
to
speak
so
with
that.
Oh
commissioner,
kowal.
Sorry,
we're
all
still
learning
the
machines.
C
Thank
you.
I
should
have
pushed
the
little
button
there,
but
okay,
yes,
I
did
what
you
said
chair
and
I
think
it's
a
very
important
program
for
our
local
roads
and
we
can
certainly
use
every
penny
we
can
get.
So
these
are
both
good
programs.
I
agree.
K
K
A
Thank
you,
commissioner
woodward.
I
would
agree
with
that.
This
has
allowed
us
to
really
set
up
a
structure
of
communication
between
the
county
and
the
local
communities
already
on
their
road
priorities,
and
we've
been
looking
at
this
year
after
year
now
for
a
while.
So
it
should
smooth
that
process
going
forward.
Looking
at
more
road
funding
that
cross
your
fingers
we're
going
to
get
so
anybody
else
have
anything
they
want
to
add
to
this.
A
Motion
by
commissioner
kowal
supported
by
commissioner
moss,
and
that
is
the
request
of
funding
for
the
52-2
district.
Courthouse
feasibility
study
funds
placed
in
the
non-departmental
transfers
section
of
the
budget
and
requires
a
separate
resolution
to
authorize
the
expenditure
once
the
project
details
are
determined
and
the
dollar
figure
here
is
a
million
dollars
for
a
feasibility
study
and
we
have
a
motion
on
the
floor.
Does
anybody
want
to
comment.
A
Commissioner
kowal
so
if
you
want
to
speak,
keep
forgetting
push
that
little
green
button
down
in
the
lower
right
corner
and
then
everybody
will
be
lined
up,
but
that's
okay
go
ahead,
commissioner.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I'm
a
slow
learner
me
too
yeah.
I
just
really
feel
that
this
is
certainly
necessary.
C
There's
so
many
security
risks
going
on
at
the
52-2
courthouse,
as
well
as
health
issues
that
and
the
issue
of
the
whole
midc
privacy
issues
with
hipaa
everybody's
on
top
of
everybody
else,
and
the
way
that
prisoners
are
taken
in
and
out
of
the
courthouse
is
alone
is
a
risk
and
during
covid
they've
all
been
working,
basically
on
top
of
each
other,
so
this
need
has
been
known
for
quite
some
time
now,
so
I'm
anxious
to
move
forward
and
get
a
feasibility
study
done
on
a
new
courthouse.
Thank
you.
I
Yeah,
thank
you.
Certainly.
We
have
all
been
aware
of
this
problem
for
a
long
time
and
I'm
proud
of
this
group
for
finally
putting
something
forward.
Unfortunately,
so
many
of
our
courts
are
in
need
of
upgrades
that,
while
this
is
one
of
our
courts-
and
this
is
under
our
jurisdiction,
I
understand
that,
but
you
know
at
some
point
I
hope,
to
encourage
the
local
units
of
government
to
look
at
upgrading
their
courts.
I
I
do.
I
have
seen
the
some
of
the
horrible
circumstances
in
that
court.
I
I
K
Yeah,
so
we've
got
a
lot
of
infrastructure
demands
on
us,
currently
we're
going
through
a
feasibility
of
our
all
of
our
infrastructure.
I
think
this
warrants
a
conversation
also
and
how
our
I
mean
how
the
oakland
county
district
court,
the
52nd
as
a
whole,
should
be
addressed.
I
mean
I'm
not
prepared
to
allocate
a
million
dollars
for
another
feasibility
study.
This
has
been
on
the
I
guess
wish
list.
I
mean
building
another
courthouse.
I
know
that
there's
demands
in
some
of
our
other
52nd
courts.
As
commissioner
gershenson
mentioned.
There's
other
demands.
K
There's
the
m,
the
michigan
midc,
the
michigan
indigent
defense,
commission
and
resources
available
there
to
address
privacy
for
defendants
going
through
the
court
system,
and
so
I
think
this
is
premature
at
this
moment,
open
to
a
conversation
with
the
sponsor
of
this
and
possibly
working
on
through
it
by
the
by
the
time
we
conclude
the
the
the
budget,
but
I
mean
allocating
a
million
dollars.
Right
now
seems
premature,
given
that
we
have
so
many
other
infrastructure
needs
on
the
immediate
horizon.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
just
a
quick
question.
D
C
Commissioner
cola,
oh
thank
you,
man,
sure
yeah,
an
answer
to
that.
That
is
money.
That's
set
aside
in
fund
balance
that
doesn't
mean
that
it
has
the
a
million
dollars
has
to
be
spent.
So
it's
setting
aside
that
money
in
the
fund
balance
to
do
so,
and
this
courthouse
can
has
literally
been
kicked
down
the
road
for
years
and
years
and
probably
should
have
been
addressed
a
long
time
ago.
I
think
that
we
are
inviting
lawsuits
if
we
don't
start
to
move
to
do
something
about
this
particular
courthouse.
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I'm
I'm
just
going
to
ask
commissioners
at
this
juncture
to
vote
no
on
this
right
now,
they're
going
to
be
there's,
probably
ongoing
conversations
with
facilities.
I
think
it
also
relates
to
the
overall
capital
outlay.
I
mean
what
our
capital
outlay
plan
is
going
forward.
I
don't
know
I
mean
that's
not
baked
into
this
budget
completely,
yet
that's
gotta.
I
mean
these
things
have
to
come
together.
I
know
this
thing's
been
on
the
wish
list.
It's
been
ridic.
K
I
share
commissioner
cole's
frustration
like
why
do
we
put
things
on
the
list
if
we
never
really
have
a
plan
to
actually
build
these
things?
I
get
the
frustration
there.
I'm
committed
to
working
with
commissioner
kowal
and
others
to
figure
a
way
forward
to
look
at
these
things
not
committed
right
now.
I
can't
support
a
million
dollars
right
now
on
this
when
there's
so
many
other
pressing
priorities.
A
Okay,
commissioner
mcgilbery
did
you
say
everything
you
wanted
you're
still
listed
as
wanting
to
speak.
I
I'm
done
okay,
commissioner,
charles.
E
Yeah,
thank
you,
chair
being
shoulder
deep
into
feasibility
concepts
and
knowing
a
little
bit
more
than
even
just
a
couple
weeks
ago
about
what
it
entails.
E
I,
like
I,
like
charts
and
visuals
to
let
me
know
what
our
our
forest
and
tree
perspective
would
be
and
again
since
it's
been
kicked
down,
the
the
hall,
the
the
street
prior
to
many
prior
to
some
of
us,
newer
commissioners
getting
on,
I
too
would
prefer
to
see
how
this
is
baked
into
the
larger
feasibility,
the
larger
the
grander
picture.
My
final
comment
is,
I
don't
have
any
idea
here
either.
If
there's
a
you
know,
sustainability
element,
green
infrastructure,
it's
just
hey.
E
Let's
spend
a
million
dollars
to
see
if
something's
feasible,
so
I'm
kind
of
growing
a
little
weary
of
of
feasibility
studies
at
nauseum.
So
I
will
make
my
vote
when
the
time
comes.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner,
commissioner,
kowal.
C
Yes,
once
again
just
to
make
clarification
here
about
setting
aside
fund
balance,
that's
just
what
we're
doing
today,
any
appropriation
or
spending
of
that
fund
balance
would
have
to
be
accompanied
by
a
resolution
that
would
detail
all
these
things
that
we're
questioning
right
now.
So
this
is
setting
aside
money
and-
and
it's
obviously
it's
not
getting
into
the
details
of
things
that
would
come
with
with
a
like,
I
said,
a
resolution
in
order
to
authorize
the
spending
of
this.
C
J
Thanks
chair,
I
like
the
idea
of
putting
money
towards
this
court.
I
remember
we
all
had
a
zoom
call
and
it
was
great
and
seemed
very
productive.
So
I
see
the
value
in
having
a
feasibility
stun
study
done
as
the
first
step,
and
I
understand
what
you're
saying
up
to
a
million
dollars
and
set
aside
to
figure
out
later.
J
I
totally
understand
that,
but
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
here,
echoing
what
commissioner
woodward
said,
of
working
with
all
facility
facilities
and
management,
because
to
also
say
what
commissioner
charles
said,
we
argued
for
like
two
hours
about
1.4
million
dollar
feasibility
study
for
an
88
million
dollar
project
and
ended
up
thinking
we
that
they
had
to
go
back
to
the
drawing
board
and
rethink
a
lot
of
stuff.
So
I
agree
with
chair
woodward.
This
feels
a
little
early
or
that
there's
an
opportunity
to
get
more
out
of
this.
J
L
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
appreciate
process
and
I
appreciate
looking
into
things-
and
I
appreciate
stunning
things
that
52nd,
these
are
our
courts
these.
This
is
our
responsibility.
This
isn't
something
that
is
something
to
be
really
nice
to
do,
or
we
would
help
people
this
these.
This
is
our
responsibility.
L
The
conditions
in
the
52nd
ii
court
is
it's
unacceptable
at
the
moment
and
that's
our
responsibility
to
make,
make
it
work
and
if
things
go
south
there
in
any
way
shape
or
form
we're
going
to
be
the
ones
that
we
held
responsible
quite
properly
so-
and
I
appreciate
the
desire
of
the
chair
chairman
woodward,
to
sort
of
regularize
putting
in
these
a
budget
amendments
rather
than
just
it
being
a
one.
You
know
one-off
wish
list
at
the
very
end
of
the
process
that
we
move
a
move
to
just
move
it
along.
L
A
Appreciate
that,
commissioner
moss
commissioner
cabell
did
you
want
to
speak
for
a
third
time
this.
J
True
yeah
yeah
yeah
to
what
you
were
just
saying
there,
commissioner
moss
since
we
didn't
get
the
oakland
literacy
thing
stands
the
reason
that
some
of
us
will
be
hounding
about
these
sorts
of
things.
If
this
doesn't
go
through
so
yeah,
I'm
with
you,
there.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner,
so
I
have
a
question
about
process
a
little
bit.
A
B
Yes,
it
is
that
that
study
is
comprehensive
across
okay.
A
So,
based
on
what
we
learned
from
that
study
about
this
facility,
you
know
what
we
found
talking
about
the
sheriffs
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
was:
there's
this
question
of
okay:
here's
what
we
know
we
need,
but
now,
where
do
we
put
it?
And
what
does
that
have
to
look
like-
and
I
think
that's
part
of
the
question
here:
do
we
modify
the
building
we
have?
Do
we
find
a
new
piece
of
property?
A
Do
we
have
a
new
piece
of
property
that
we
decide
to
build
on
some
hybrid
version
of
that
go
to
a
different,
existing
building
and
turn
it
into
a
court?
Those
questions
have
not
been
fleshed
out.
I
don't
think,
but
I
think,
there's
a
real
understanding
by
the
board
of
commissioners
as
well
as
the
administration
that
something
needs
to
move
on
this.
I'm
I'm
nervous
about
a
million
dollars
because
we
don't
know
what
that
will
turn
into
I.
A
I
would
like
to
have
a
figure
in
here
for
this,
but
I
I'm
squishy
on
a
million
dollars,
so
I'm
gonna
vote
no
on
this.
At
this
moment,.
B
And
if
I
could
just
add,
madame
chair,
you
know
part
of
the
of
the
study.
That's
ongoing
is
also
based
around
operational
needs
of
of
departments
and
the
courts
and
and
and
and
all
of
our
all
of
our
other
accounting
operations.
In
terms
of
what
does
the
the
the
next
stage
of
hybrid
work
or
remote
work
look
like.
We
know
the
courts
are
in
a
process
of
of
of
examining
which
parts
of
of
of
doing
proceedings
on
a
on
a
remote
basis
has
actually
worked.
So
I
think
it
you
know
it
fits.
I
I
I
would
be
able
to
support
this
not
moving
forward
today
at
a
million
dollars,
but
that
we
have
an
understanding
and
a
commitment
that
I
would
like
to
see.
This
remain
an
issue
for
us
and
and
not
to
sweep
it
under
the
rug.
It
is
our
responsibility,
something
terrible
could
happen,
but
life
is
changing
and
the
work
environment
is
changing.
So,
with
the
commissioner's
reluctance
on
the
million,
I
can
see
that
postponing
this,
for
me
would
be
okay,
but
I
I
am
also
committing
to
wanting
to
see
something
done
here.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner,
commissioner,
kowal.
C
Thank
you
yeah.
I
just
have
a
whole
longer
list
of
items
that
are
concerns
with
this
court
and
also
the
population
that
this
court
serve
serves,
has
increased
and
certainly
the
demands
on
the
judicial
system
have
not
diminished
at
all,
and
this
is
like
you
start
the
clock
ticking
now,
it'll
be
five
years
before
they
get
any
kind
of
new
facility.
C
C
E
Yeah
final
comment:
I
do
I
would
like
to
apologize,
but
I'm
not
going
to
apologize.
Is
you
know,
just
a
couple
weeks
ago
the
courts
came
and
did
their
budget
hearing
process
and
probably
till
january
of
2022.
I'm
gonna
lean
on
this
being
new
piece,
and
so
for
me
I
don't
quite
follow
why
we
tell
a
department
to
cut
cut
cut
and
then
we
look
for
ways
to
then
fill
in
those
gaps
here
here
at
our
table
for
for
the
purposes
of
what
we're
discussing
today.
E
So
I
do
recall
their
their
talk
during
their
hearing,
and
I
know
that
this
has
been
like.
You
said,
kick
down
down
the
corridor
for
a
while.
Is
it
is
it
out
of
the
purview
that
they
would
have
brought
this?
I
think
there
was
some
mention
of
it,
but
why?
Why
ask
them
to
cut
if
we
know
that
they
need
these
things
and
then
say:
hey
we'll,
throw
you
a
million
dollars
to
study
something.
E
So
I
guess
I'm
now,
echoing
commissioner
gershenson,
just
to
say
that
I
I
think
it's
worthwhile
and
certainly
need
it,
but
I
would
like
to
see
it
a
part
of
the
bigger
the
bigger
picture.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Charles,
so
is
there
any
I'll
ask
this?
Is
there
any
interest
in
lowering
the
dollar
figure,
keeping
the
line
item
but
lowering
the
dollar
figure?
I'm
commissioner
kowal.
C
Thank
you,
jerry
yeah
I'd
be
happy
to
amend
my
motion
to
a
lesser
number.
I
guess
I
don't
know
what
would
be
acceptable
to
the
committee
750
500.
C
K
Okay,
but
my
preference
madam
chair,
is
to
explore-
I
mean
working
with
the
sponsor
of
this
between
now
and
adoption
of
the
budget,
and
we
might
be
able
to
come
to
some
some
arrangement
to
move
forward
on
this.
But
I'm
not
prepared
today
to
support
a
particular
a
particular
dollar
amount.
A
Okay,
everybody
hear
that.
Okay
with
that.
A
B
A
Okay,
the
motion
fails
with
a
proviso
that
the
chair
is
going
to
speak
at
great
length
with
commissioner
kowal
and
find
an
agreeable.
A
It's
really
a
wide
range
of
funding,
and
what
we
want
to
do
is
separate
these
out,
so
that
we
understand
what
they
are,
how
big
they
are,
how
long
they
last
and
the
commission
itself
does
a
better
job
of
vetting
all
these
projects
to
make
sure
that
when
we
do
allocate
the
money
there's
a
plan
in
place
for
it
to
actually
be
executed.
So
the
the
million
was
set
aside
for
those
bigger
projects.
A
Three
hundred
thousand
dollars
is
set
aside
for
some
of
those
smaller
anywhere
from
five
hundred
dollars
to
under
fifty
thousand
dollars,
and
then
the
grant
writing
piece
of
it.
We've
kicked
around
quite
a
bit
because
many
of
the
departments
at
the
county
right
now
are
having
difficulty
writing
all
the
grants
that
they
could
to
bring
in
funding
back
revenue
back
to
the
county.
I
had
a
couple
of
months
ago.
A
C
Thank
you-
and
I
I
agree
with
some
aspects
of
this,
but
it
was
just
spoken
by
another
commissioner
that
we're
asking
all
these
departments
to
cut
and
then
we're
growing
our
discretionary
spending
under
the
board
of
commissioners.
I
agree
with
the
grant.
C
Writing
some
other
things,
but
I
I
quite
frankly,
don't
agree
with
some
of
the
things
that
we've
spent
been
spending
money
on
we're
growing
government
we're
getting
involved
in
things
that,
as
a
county
government
providing
the
services
that
county
government
are,
should
be
providing
we're
getting
into
other
areas
and,
like
I
said,
we're
just
growing
government.
So
this
is
kind
of
a
blank
check
to
keep
on
doing
this,
and
I
agree
with
the
whole
thing
and
bring
everything
under
one
umbrella.
But
right
now
I
have
a
lot
of
questions
about
this.
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I
guess
I
would
like
to
hear
about
some
of
these
projects
that
we
got
involved
in.
That
is
get
great
concern,
because
we've
historically
done
these
things
with
broad
bipartisan
support,
but
I
mean
to
the
point
of
the
previous
speaker.
I
mean
we
just
approved
four
million
dollars
for
roads,
which
is
clearly
something
outside
the
core
function
of
county
government,
and
so
I
mean,
I
think,
the
comments
a
little
bit
disingenuous.
K
Everything
that
this
board
has
undertaken,
particularly
the
last
few
years
and
beyond,
has
been
to
improve
the
lives
of
the
residents
of
oakland
county.
I
think
this
sets
up
a
system
on
the
a
million
dollars
of
set
aside
for
the
special
projects
that,
when
it
might
be
a
department
bringing
those
ideas
and
and
then
being
vetted
through
the
commission
process,
it
might
be
the
executive
office.
It
might
be
commissioners
that
identify
problems
that
can
be
addressed.
K
These
are
things
that
can
be
brought
forward
vetted
and
we
take
action
to
improve
the
lives
and
communities
here
in
oakland
county.
As
far
as
the
other
things
things
like
addressing
needs
and
combating
human
trafficking,
things
about
trying
to
protect
our
environment,
things
about
taking
and
taking
action
and
being
supportive
of
any
special
events
across
our
county.
K
These
are
all
appropriate
things
and
I
think
it
is
appropriate,
and
I
want
to
commend
the
the
chair
of
working
towards
a
solution
that
puts
this
all
in
one
place,
that
we
can
actually
have
a
doubt
on
the
amount
budget
amount
and
work
work
against
that
and
track
accordingly.
And
then
lastly,
I
mean
when
we
talk
about.
I
just
want
to
like
underscore
this,
like
the
asking
of
cuts,
the
the
request
to
departments
to
reduce
their
compensation
line.
K
Item
I
mean
the
the
the
10
over
a
period
of
time
is
to
pay
for
the
compensation
study
that
we
all
implemented
last
year
and
it
is
to
bring
us
so
that
we're
no
longer
in
a
I
mean
so
that
they're
able
to
pay
for
the
the
talent
and
the
employees
that
we
have
within
the
constraints
of
the
dollars
that
come
in
on
an
annual
basis.
So
we
are
looking
specifically
at
those
are
operational
costs
to
make
certain
that
it
fits
within
the
the
revenue
is
being
brought
in.
K
K
It
is
the
appropriate
way
to
do
things
and
is
consistent
with
the
practice
of
this
board
and
consistent
with
the
resources
that
we
have
been
spending
over
the
last
many
many
years
I
mean,
I
guess
I'll,
come
back
the
the
what
before
covid,
we
launched
an
effort
to
make
sure
that
we
had
schools
to
help
schools,
purchase
water,
refilling,
bottle
stations
that
had
redundant
filtration
in
them,
and
we
made
that
available
across
oakland
county
a
resounding
success,
the
first
county
in
the
entire
state
to
do
this
and
then
became
a
mantra
that
others
started
adopting,
and
particularly
in
covid.
K
What
a
wonderful
thing
to
have
I
mean
to
have
these
in
every
school
building
across
oakland
county
that
kids
don't
have
to
marry,
not
putting
their
face
close
up.
To
I
mean
water
refilling
stations
as
kids
have
gone
back
to
school.
So
I
stand
by
the
actions
of
this
board
and
the
actions
of
this
county,
and
I
think
this
is
a
great
way
of
organizing
ourselves
and
working
collaboratively
to
solve
solutions
as
they
come
up.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner,
commissioner.
Cavell
yeah.
J
Just
to
also
respond
to
what
you
were
saying,
commissioner,
kowal
kind
of
echo
what
the
chair
was
saying
right.
These
investments
are
to
make
our
government
more
nimble
and
adaptive
and
responsive
to
the
21st
century
needs
of
its
people,
and
it's,
I
think,
not
a
coincidence
that
we're
one
of
the
fastest
aging
counties
in
one
of
the
fastest
aging
states
in
the
country,
because
we
have
not
been
nimble,
adaptive
and
responsive
to
the
people's
needs
in
a
way
that
we
are
now
growing
into
that.
J
E
All
right,
commissioner,
thank
you.
I
just
needed
a
little
bit
of
clarification
chair.
I
know
you,
you
read
the
actual
line
item
and
for
some
reason
it's
still
not
resonating.
It's
a
million
flat
or
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
that
300
and
you
talked
about
the
other
300.
Is
that
all
contained
in
the
million?
Are
we
talking
1.3
just
a
little
clarification
for
me?
Okay,.
A
A
But
that
is
to
to
manage
all
of
this
money.
That's
coming
to
us.
You
know
arp
and
so
on.
Coming
forward
management,
budget
fiscal
services
is
there's
a
300
000
figure
in
here.
For
that
which
includes
the
grant.
Writing.
Okay,.
L
Gee
I'm,
this
is
great,
thank
you.
They
say
the
right
honorable
and.
L
Honorable
joseph
wants
a
third
esquire,
but
we'll
take
that
yeah.
It
says
charles
yeah
I
want
to
before
I
go
by
the
way
commissioner
cavell.
It
may
not
be
necessarily
a
bad
thing
that
the
county
is
getting
older.
This
is
a
great
place
to
age
gracefully.
You
know,
I'm
not
saying
about
myself,
but
today,
of
course,
today
is
my
birthday.
So
I'll
congratulate
you.
Thank
you.
So
oakland
county
is
once
again
it's
a
great
place
to
get
older
because
I
think
we're
all
doing
it.
L
All
right,
so
if
I
am
getting
a
sense
of
what
is
being
discussed
as
we're
talking
about
the
agenda-
and
the
excuse
me,
the
the
amendments
from
our
chair,
mr
woodward,
is
that
there's
essentially
going
to
be
what
amounts
to
a
new
sort
of
a
discipline
on
commissioner
earmarks
to
take
a
phrase
that
we
all
understand,
whether
that
it's
totally
accurate
or
not
instead
of
commissioners.
L
K
I
I
mean
yes,
I
mean
every
I
mean,
particularly
in
the
million
dollars
the
special
project.
Non-Department.
I'm
sorry,
can
you
speak
up,
I'm
sorry
correct.
I
mean
a
resolution
would
be
required
to
I
mean
if
to
draw
resources
from
that
million
dollars
and
go
through
the
committee
process
and
vetting
and
obviously
have
to
rank
on
priorities,
maybe
shared
by
the
sport.
So.
L
Okay,
I
mean
in
some
senses
I'm
a
brand
newbie.
In
other
sense,
it's
not,
but
this
is.
This
is
sort
of
my
newbie
hat
here,
okay,
so
this
is
going
to
be
the
way
that
we
are
going
to
be
basically
going
on,
or
at
least
you're
proposing
that
we
go
on
from
here
on
out.
It's
not
simply
to
throw
things
in
kind
of
in
an
ad
hoc
basis
or
whatever
at
the
end
of
the
you
know
in
the
budget
process.
K
K
But
it
I
mean,
I
mean
where
we
would
assign
fund
balance
and
later
come
back
with
a
resolution
and
we'd
have
a
bunch
of
assigned
fund
balances
and
be
pulling
from
things
over
time.
The
discipline
here
is
like
here
we're
working
from
a
budget
and
I'm
identifying
priorities
and
making
certain
that
things
fall
within
that,
as
we
consider
what
things
to
fund
and
what
things
not
define
right
so
so.
L
Okay,
so
for
something,
for
instance,
let's
say
the
the
needs
of
the
52nd
second
50.
Second,
two
district
court,
just
because
that
was
something
we
talked
about,
that
would
go
into
the
the
hopper.
If
you
will
and
be
looked
at
how
I
don't
know
how
that
worked,
I
think
it's
a
great
idea.
I
just
want
to
know
how
you
how
we
intend
to
do
it
so
by
this.
K
Community,
okay!
Well,
I
guess
there's
two
questions
to
that
and
I
guess
I'll
let
the
chair
also
if
she
wants
to
weigh
in
I
mean
we
looked
at
the
activities
that
we
embarked
on
last
year
and
you
get
kind
of
put
a
budget
frank.
I
mean
kind
of
a
budget
framework
around
that
now
I
mean
if
a
million
dollars
is
what
the
the
50
second
is
is
going
to
scoop.
All
that
up
I
mean,
and
I
guess
I
would
push
back
to
say.
K
K
One
million
dollars
is
designed
for
those
projects
that
are
like
more
than
50
000
go
through
the
resolution
process,
and
I
mean
I
think,
as
a
board
that
we
have
an
obligation
to
determine
the
criteria
for
helping
evaluate
and
vet
it
as
a
as
a
worthy
investment
of
these
dollars
to
improve
the
lives
of
people
in
our
community
to
help
them
support.
Our
communities,
et
cetera,
so
I
mean,
I
think,
I'm
a
big
believer
that
all
ideas
deserve
ability
to
be
explored,
worked
on
and
and
vetted
and
and
then
working
together.
K
I
mean,
as
you
know,
at
some
time.
Some
of
these
things
is
a
multi-year
process.
I
mean
the
water
refilling
bottle
station
was
a
three-year
process
from
start
to
finish,
and
it
just
I
mean,
because
we
didn't
have
the
dollars
all
up
front
to
be
able
to
do
it
the
first
year,
and
so
we
look,
we
pace
it
out
over
a
period
of
time.
So
I
think
that
is
how
I
envision
us
as
a
board
bringing
these
ideas
forward
working
on
these
things
and
then
trying
to
find
a
a
mutually
agreeable.
K
Hopefully,
a
broad
bipartisan
support
to
to
advance.
L
Abroad,
bipartisan
is
always
always
preferable.
Now
the
idea
is
so
this
would
be
brought
through.
I
mean
I'm
just
wanting
to
figure
out
how
this
works
and
how
it
works,
how
it's
going
to
work
this
would
be
through
finance
committee
and
all
that
right.
K
Right
the
finance
committee,
but
I
think
also
the
appropriate
policy
committees
that
I
mean
that
intersect
with
the
topic
at
hand.
Obviously,
by
resolution
like
this
is
not
money
that's
been
appropriated,
it
would
I
mean
to
release
these
funds,
would
require
a
resolution
to
come
through
this
process,
and
also
I
mean
working
in
collaboration
with
the
executive
office.
To
I
mean
to
release
these
dollars
for
said
project.
C
Commissioner
cowell
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I
do
agree
with
commissioner
woodward
on
many
of
these
points
and
in
the
interest
of
the
a
good
process
and
more
transparency.
I
will
support
this
this.
I
will
be
voting
yes
on
this
amendment
today.
Thank
you
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
A
Commissioner
moss,
I
you
ask
a
good
question,
which
is:
how
will
this
all
work-
and
I
don't
think
we've
got
that
all
fleshed
out
completely
yet
so,
if
you're
interested
in
being
part
of
that
conversation,
I
would
love
to
have
your
participation.
L
A
Anybody
else
have
any
other
comments
or
questions
all
right.
Well
with
that,
then,
let's
go
ahead
and
prompt
the
vote
on
item
number
13.
D
A
All
right,
the
motion
is
approved
on
item
number
13..
Commissioner,
kowal
did
you
have
an
item
you
wanted
to
raise
up.
C
Yes,
I
would
like
to
if
I
may
go
back
and
to
the
courthouse
the
52-2
issue
early
this
morning.
I
did
receive
another
amendment
rather
than
the
one
million
dollars
for
the
feasibility
study.
It
was
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
for,
I
believe,
a
needs-based
assessment
through
plant
moran
and
I
would
like
to
and
perhaps
because
I
did
receive
that,
obviously
from
it
came,
I
don't
know
who
sent
it
to
me
anyway,
that
that
was
that's.
C
I
guess
kind
of
what
I
thought,
what
we
would
be
happening
today,
so
I
was
a
little
bit
surprised
that
the
million
was
still
in
there,
but
at
this
stage
of
the
game,
I
think
that
I
would
like
to
propose
the
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
a
needs
based
assessment
by
plant
moran.
The
language
is,
if
I
can
find
it
here,.
B
This
is,
if
I,
if
I,
if
I
may
madam
chair,
this,
is
a
a
concept
that
had
been
discussed
as
an
alternative.
As
we
move
down
the
road
here
would
be
he
asking
plant
moran,
you
know
at
a
cost
of,
hopefully
less
than
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
to.
You
know,
drill
down
a
level
further
with
respect
to
the
the
clarkston
courthouse
in
terms
of
what
some
of
the
options
would
be.
Okay,.
K
I
mean
I
think
I
mean
commissioner
cowell
is
proposing
a
new
amendment.
I
mean,
but
maybe
a
similar
topic,
just
a
different
amount.
I
mean,
I
think,
for
me.
It's
like
again.
I
am
very
open
to
continuing
to
have
the
conversation,
I'm
not
prepared
to
vote
for
something
right
now,
but
I
mean
I
could
I
mean,
definitely
possibly
work
towards
a
grand
bargain
when
we
get
to
the
floor
at
the
end
of
the
month.
End
of
september.
B
A
C
Having
heard
that,
then
I
will
withdraw
my
motion
and
look
forward
to
working
with
the
chair.
Okay,
thank
you.
I
just
thought
I'd.
You
know,
hail
mary
pass
there.
A
Thank
you,
commissioners.
Okay,
so
we
have
passed
all
of
items
a
b
and
c
correct.
A
A
Thank
you.
That's
why
we
have
the
staff
here
to
keep
us
in
order.
Okay,
so
we
need
to
call
the
vote
on
the
budget
to
2022-2021
oakland
county
budget,
as
amended.
E
There's
a
question
on
the
floor,
commissioner:
charles
yeah,
I
thought
my
request
to
speak
had
gotten
booted,
but
I
think
when
you
go
back
to
eight,
you
see
it
there
and
I
see
gwen.
You
have
raised
your
hand
to
speak.
E
I
wanna
this
was
my
question
way
back
when
we
first
did
the
motion
for
this
when
the
chairman
moved.
So
my
question
to
the
chair
was
simply
to
just
maybe
in
a
minute
or
so
because
you
you
made
the
motion,
therefore
you're
likely
supporting
of
it.
Just
a
summary
of
why
thank
you.
A
Yeah
the
budget
overall,
I
withdrew
my
own
comment,
which
was
on
there
accidentally,
but
okay,
commissioner
woodward.
K
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Charles
yes,
I
mean
I
I
am
I
want
to.
I
mean
first
commend
the
finance
committee
on
all
the
work
that
you've
done
meeting
with
all
the
departments,
and
I
mean
getting
to
this
point
as
well
as
the
county
executive
and
the
recommended
budget.
With
I
mean
coming
back
to
the
the
top
of
the
the
budget,
the
budget
presentation
that
the
executive
delivered
with
the
entire
executive
team.
K
This
budget
moves
us
closer
to
living
into
our
truth
and
budgeting
guidelines
and
objective
to
make
certain
that
the
dollars
coming
in
annually
fund
the
government
of
oakland
county
and
all
the
priorities
there
within.
I
think
it
makes
appropriate
strategic
investments,
particularly
in
the
areas
of
cyber
security
and
the
prosecutor's
office,
with
the
conviction
integrity
unit.
I
think
it
implements
good
budgeting
practices.
K
I
mean,
as
with
a
lot
of
these
amendments
that
we've
put
forward
on
that,
requires
not
only
further
collaboration
but
will
actually
add
a
layer
of
transparency,
and
let
me
make
concern
that
as
a
as
a
board
that
we're
leaning
into
making
certain
that
we
are
appropriately
fulfilling
our
constitutional
statutory
responsibility
to
make
sure
these
dollars
are
spent
appropriately.
K
And
I
mean
I
think
that
this
is
it's
a
demonstration
of
the
long
traditions
in
oakland
county
of
being
able
to
work
with
all
of
our
electeds
and
appointed
leaders
to
ensure
that
oakland
county
remains
the
leader
in
the
state
and
one
of
the
leading
counties
in
this
country.
And
I
am
very
excited
to
support
this.
K
And
so
I
mean
you
guys
have
been
doing
this
in
tandem
the
entire
way,
and
I
think
that
there's
I
mean
it's
a
good
model
moving
forward
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
a
broad
support
for
this
budget.
End
of
september.
A
D
A
A
Is
there,
commissioner,
mcgilvray.