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A
B
B
A
I
am
going
to
call
the
meeting
of
the
finance
committee
to
order
at
1101
this
morning.
Let's
have
a
roll
call.
A
C
A
A
A
B
A
A
B
B
A
A
A
Commissioner
mcgilvery
supported
by
commissioner
moss,
and
do
we
have
somebody
here
to
talk
to
us
about
this.
B
C
C
So
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
have
regarding
this.
I'm
not
sure
if
all
the
commissioners
are
aware,
but
we
were
tasked
with
looking
at
doing
renovations
to
the
auditorium
area
to
provide
ada,
accessible
toilet
rooms
and
we
were
given
a
very
short
window
to
to
put
something
together.
So
I
believe
your
packet
includes
some
hand
sketches
from
one
of
our
project
managers,
one
of
our
architects,
along
with
some
rough
high
level,
cost
estimates.
B
Thank
you.
Actually,
I'm
talking
about
two
mikes
here,
we'll
see
how
that
works.
I
I
notice
it's
it's.
It's
mentioned
restrooms
or
whatever,
but
this
is.
I
would
not
to
expand
or
mission
creep,
but
we
were
talking
about
ada
compliance
not
merely
for
restrooms,
but
for
you
know
the
rest
of
the
rest
of
the
commissioner's
wing.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
clear,
no.
B
As
a
as
an
initial
initial
response
to
a
very
limited
question,
I
I
appreciate
your
work
in
doing
this,
so
I'm
safer
in
a
moment.
Thank
you.
A
Yeah,
I
just
I
wanna,
also
echo
what
mr
moss
commissioner
moss
said
about.
Thank
you
for
doing
this
level
of
work
and
figuring
it
out
basically
you're
saying
for
somewhat
under
five
hundred
thousand
dollars.
We
could
do
both
bathrooms
and
the
rest
of
the
building
if
necessary,
and
I
think
all
we
have
to
do
at
this
point-
is
receive
and
file-
we're
not
going
to
make
any
decisions
today
that
this
was
a
good.
A
Effort
to
tell
us
how
much
it
would
really
cost
to
do
this,
and
for
those
who
might
not
know
we
do
not
have
an
accessible
bathroom
in
this
building
and
when
we
have
crowds
of
people
here.
Sometimes
there
are
folks
who
have
limited
mobility
and
they
have
to
actually
exit
our
building
and
go
into
another
building
to
use
the
restroom.
So
that's
what
precipitated
this
discussion,
and
now
we
have
more
information
to
work
with.
So
I
very
much
appreciate
it,
commissioner,
moss
again.
B
Yeah,
I
do
have
one
thing:
I'd
like
to
throw
in
once
again.
This
is
I
I
consider
this
to
be
a
very
rough
back
of
the
envelope
response
and
not
that
it
isn't
a
fine
product
and
it
is,
but
you
know
we
kind
of
threw
this
at
you,
and
you
appreciate
your
coming
up
with
it.
B
One
thing
that
is
almost
as
important
to
me
as
getting
the
ada
compliance
and
it's
not
simply
bathrooms,
although
you
know
that
it's
thrown
around,
but
you
know,
is
that
this
commissioner's
wing
looks
to
me,
like
it's
survived,
largely
intact
from
1963,
which
puts
it
to
me
as
architecturally
architecture,
relevant
example
of
mid-century
architecture.
So
you
don't
want
to
just
go
in
with
the
crowbar
and
turn
it
into
a
2021
compliant
thing.
You
need
to
be
a
little
more
sensitive
to
what's
already
there.
B
B
You
know
I,
the
one
here
looks,
like
frankly
looks
like
the
one
at
my
my
parents
house,
which
is
was
built
in
64.,
but
just
to
caution
as
we
go
forward
to
be
mindful
of
the
fact
that
this
is
an
architecturally,
significant,
architecturally,
significant
building
and
make
everything
that
we
do
consistent
with
that
environment.
A
Okay,
next
up,
we
have
commissioner
woodward,
followed
by
commissioner
powell
I'll
pass.
B
Powell,
so
now
I
would
like
to
know
what
is
next
step,
be
it
that
this
is
something
that
was
required
by
us
and
also
if
we
do
decide
to
move
on
this,
I'm
big
on
learning
process.
So
we
were
to
move
on
something
like
this.
What
is
next
steps
who
makes
those
decisions
and
what.
A
Have
those
are
all
really
good
questions,
commissioner
woodward.
F
Okay,
I
guess
maybe
so
I
was
actually
going
to
go
down
that
line,
I'm
like
oh,
do
we
want
to
have
that
conversation
now,
so
I
mean
ed.
I
guess
I'll
I
mean
lean
on
you.
I
mean
I
would
expect
I
mean
and
just
based
on
the.
I
think
the
shared
importance
that
that
brought
this
to
light
that
as
we
I
know,
we're
going
through
a
county-wide
assessment,
america
we're
required
to
have
a
capital
outlay
program
plan
put
in
place.
F
One
option
would
be
to
put
this
in
on
that
capital
outlay
for
the
next
and
the
next.
Well,
the
capital
improvement
program
for
the
next
year,
and
I
and
in
that
process
identify
a
funding
source
to
be
able
to
make
this
happen
or
put
it
on.
F
I
mean
slide
it
for
the
next
I
mean
there's
a
five-year
plan,
and
so
ed
can
you
speak
a
little
bit
to
that
and
kind
of
my
sense
is
this
is
not
yet
on
that,
but
we
could
go
when
we
go
through
that
process
of
adopting
that,
probably
after
the
budget
and
after
the
the
county-wide
assessment
of
our
buildings,
that
that
would
be
a
time
to
put
it
on
there,
at
which
point
the
we
would
be
appropriating
making
some
dollars
available
through
appropriation
or
identifying
dollars
to
advance
a
specific
project
like
this
ed.
C
Yes,
yeah,
of
course
I
have
looks
like
five
notes.
I've
written
down
here
that
I'd
like
to
address
and
that
in
one
of
those
will
address
that
question.
So
if
I
may
I'll
I'll
just
run
through
these,
stop
me
at
any
time
interrupt
me
at
any
time,
but.
C
One
of
the
things
that
I
wanted
to
note
is
commissioner,
moss
or
one
of
the
commissioners.
I'm
sorry
had
mentioned.
It
was
markham
that
for
around
500
000
we
could
convert
both
of
the
existing
toilet
rooms
into
ada,
accessible
toilet
rooms.
This
was
really
approached
as
an
option,
one
or
an
option.
Two,
I'm
not
sure
that
both
would
be
needed.
You
know
in
a
in
a
situation
like
this,
we
would
do
what
we
could
to
provide
one
accessible
toilet
room.
C
I
do
appreciate
commissioner
moss's
comments
about
the
the
architecture
of
the
building,
not
only
the
mid-century
modern,
but
but
just
noting
that
you
know
there
are
challenges
that
we
that
we
have
with
trying
to
shoehorn
in
these
these
type
of
improvements
when
the
building
was
never
initially
designed
for
that,
but
there
I
want
everybody
to
be
aware,
too,
that
there
was
a
project
that
was
brought
to
us
a
while
ago,
and
one
of
our
project
managers
has
been
working
with
the
board
staff
to
do
additional
renovations
in
that
area.
C
For
for
the
offices
to
create
some
touchdown
spaces
for
the
commissioners,
some
some
collaborative
space-
and
I
wanted
to
note
that
I
believe
it's
option,
two
that
would
the
renovations
would
be
done
to
the
southern
part
of
the
building,
and
if
that,
if
that
option
was
chosen,
it
would
conflict
with
the
other
project.
I
was
referring
to
where
the
the
break
room
would
be
it's
planned
to
to
be
updated.
So
there
was
also
another
comment
that
within
the
building,
there
is
not
an
ada
accessible,
toilet
room.
C
That
is
true.
If
we're
talking
strictly
about
the
board
of
commissioners
auditorium
the
board.
The
auditorium,
as
you
know,
has
the
two
toilet
rooms.
Neither
one
are
ada
compliant,
but
within
the
courthouse
itself
there
are
ada
compliant
restrooms
and
I
believe
there
is
signage
that
would
lead
someone
that
needs
those
accessible
facilities
from
the
auditorium
to
those
to
those
facilities
and-
and
I'm
just
noting-
that
for
informational
first
purposes,
I'm
not
implying
that
that
is
ideal
by
by
any
means.
C
C
I'm
sorry,
yes,
commissioner
paul,
I
my
apologies
for
this.
Thank
you,
so
the
the
next
steps
would
be
if
we
were
given
direction
to
move
forward
with
this
and
if
option
one
was
selected
or
option
two
was
selected
or
for
whatever
reason.
If,
if
there
was
a
need
to
do
both,
then
we
would
actually
put
together
some
detailed
drawings
and
specifications.
C
C
Then
we
would
have
to
send
out
an
rfp
to
bid
for
for
the
contractors.
We
would
get
those
bids
back.
We
would
evaluate
them
based
on
the
results.
We'd
be
able
to
put
together
a
firm
budget
that
process
on
top
of
doing
the
drawings
would
be
at
the
minimum.
C
A
few
more
weeks-
and
I
just
mentioned
that-
because
I
I
know
there
was
mention
of
coming
back
with
a
quote-unquote,
more
detailed
plan
sometime
in
october,
if
you
do
the
math,
that
obviously
puts
us
beyond
october,
so
when
we,
if
and
when
we
get
to
that
stage-
and
we
come
back
with
bidders
firm
drawings
and
specifications
with
with
costs
once
we
know
what
it's
going
to
cost
for
sure,
then
we
can
identify
the
the
funding
chairman
woodward.
C
As
you
mentioned,
we
are
currently
in
the
process
of
working
with
an
outside
firm
to
help
us
analyze
our
current
plan
and
see
where
our
needs
are
and
if
additional
funding
is
needed
there,
there
was
an
ada
study
that
was
done
in
the
courthouse
that
helped
identify
areas
for
improvement,
and
that
was
going
to
be
part
of,
I
believe,
like
a
37
million
dollar
bond
issue,
to
address
ada
improvements
for
the
entire
campus,
as
well
as
some
life
safety
improvements,
and
that
has
been
put
on
hold
until
we
are
done
with
the
assessments
that
that
we
reference.
C
So
I
know
that
was
long-winded.
I
hope
it
addresses
some
of
your
questions
and
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
more.
You
might
have.
Thank
you.
F
This
is
actually
one
other
question
just
we
we
start
thinking
through
funding
like
have
we
ever
applied,
or
are
there
grants
to
help
secure
funding
for
ada
compliance?
I
don't
know
at
the
federal
or
or
state
level
and
if
so,
have
we
ever
pursued
those.
C
A
C
A
A
D
Good
morning,
commissioners,
can
you
hear
me
okay,
so
this
first
item
that
I'm
bringing
this
morning
is
the
the
last
phase.
Hopefully,
if
everything
goes
as
planned
and
we've
had
some
very
good
success
with
the
wi-fi
implementation
so
far,
so
that
is
our
plan
at
the
moment,
this
is
the
wi-fi
network
completion
for
the
rest
of
the
county
campus.
D
We
did
it
first
in
in
it
just
to
make
sure
that
the
the
process,
the
technology,
the
engineering
all
worked
as
designed,
then
we
also
completed
the
district
courts
that
was
completed
last
year.
Actually,
that
was
completed
in
january
of
this
year
and
we've
done
a
couple
of
the
floors
in
the
executive
office
building
so
also
completed
several
areas
within
this
building
12e
the
county
circuit
court
area.
So
those
are
noted
on
the
map.
D
D
And
again,
the
funding
is
available
as
a
signed
fund
balance
for
the
project.
Any
questions.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
tim.
Any
of
the
commissioners
have
any
comments
or
questions.
Commissioner
kavel.
A
B
I
I'm
a
little
confused,
so
please
help
me.
The
there's
in
the
assigned
fund
balance
was
598
000
right
or
am
I
reading
that
wrong.
B
D
So
in
one
of
the
changes
that
that
kyle
jenn
has
talked
about
with
with
assigned
fund
balance,
is
that
we're
going
to
get
out
of
using
a
signed
fund,
balance
right
and
and
part
of
that
is
we
had
money
in
that
category
already
for
this
project?
D
The
other
thing
that
is
in
the
next
budget
is
that,
instead
of
putting
money
in
a
signed
fund
balance,
there
will
be
a
deposit
basically
for
it
technology
projects
that
is
part
of
the
budget
every
year
right
in
the
it
budget.
So
that's
the
the
additional
set
of
funding
for
this
project
and
for
the
next
one.
Actually,
the
printer
replacement.
B
D
D
Just
to
approve
that
allocation,
we
won't
actually
enter
into
any
contracts
or
expense
until
after
the
budget
year
starts.
D
A
A
D
Good
morning,
thank
you,
commissioners,
so
mfds
or
multi-function
devices
are
basically
a
fancy
word
to
say
printers,
but
they
also
scan
they
fax,
and
we
have.
We
have
gone
through
a
project
several
years
ago
at
the
county
to
consolidate
printers
in
the
county,
and
that's
done
you
know
basically
for
cost
savings,
so
we
don't
have
lots
of
users
with
printers
on
their
desks
anymore.
D
D
I
will
look
that
up
in
a
minute,
because
it's
not
critical,
except
for
the
fact
that
we
did
follow
the
rfp
process
included
in
that
was
the
acquisition
of
new
devices,
and
so
now
we're
at
the
point
in
this
most
of
the
devices
we
have
are
over
eight
years
old
and
they
do
get
a
lot
of
use,
some
printers
believe
it
or
not,
have
actually
had
more
use
during
the
pandemic
in
certain
departments.
D
D
A
Thank
you,
mr
tim,
regarding
these
rfid,
the
id
cards,
the
ones
that
we
use
to
get
in
here
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
not
that
I'm
going
to
be
here,
printing
stuff,
but
is
that
something
that.
D
Yes,
there's
actually
those
those
badges
are
actually
managed
and
supported.
Building
security
is
managed
and
supported
out
of
the
building
security
team,
which
was
part
of
fmno.
D
Recently,
one
of
the
reorganizations
that
was
approved
was
it
was
moved
under
director
hardesty
and
the
emergency
operations
center,
and
that
is
an
ongoing
project
that
they
have.
So
as
the
badge
readers
are
replaced
as
the
badges
are
replaced
and
those
that
have
an
older
style
badge
will
get
a
sticker
added
to
the
back
of
their
badge.
That
will
provide
that
rfid
technology
as
an
interim
move
until
all
the
badges
are
replaced.
B
A
B
D
Actually,
they're
they're
not
the
same,
and
some
of
that
is
by
design,
because
some
areas
have
have
higher
speed,
printing
requirements
or
or
they
may
have.
We
have
a
limited
number
of
color
printers
available.
Okay,
not
everybody
gets
to
print
in
color,
and
so
there
are
definitely
standard
models.
A
A
D
B
D
A
Thank
you,
commissioner,
commissioner
mcgilvray
followed
by
commissioner
woodward.
D
This
contract
was
bid
out.
The
contract
is
brand
new.
I
had
that
in
the
summary
I
believe
it's
three
years
old.
D
They
are
yeah
like,
like
I
said
this.
This
went
out
for
bid
back
in
17.
They
were
awarded
the
contract
july,
1st
of
18.,
so
the
contract's
three
years
old
and
so
we'll
extend
through
the
five-year
period,
and
then
it
will
go
out
for
rfp
again.
D
F
So
I
my
question:
I
thank
you.
Ma'am
chair
the
the
reduction
in
charging
the
cost
per
page
is
that
because
of
the
cost
savings
of
the
device,
and
that's
how
I
mean
by
the
technology
bringing
down
so
we're
not
under
charging
departments
for
like
this
is
the
the
cost
of
a
black
and
white
piece
of
paper
happens
just
to
be
less
than
what
we
were
paying.
D
Correct
it's!
It's
really
very
similar
to
you
know.
If
you
buy
a
new
car
and
the
gas
mileage
is
better,
we
will
get
better
gas
mileage
on
our
printers
and
and
we
actually
pay
applied
imaging,
what's
called
a
per
click
rate,
so
we
pay
for
every
print
that
we
do.
We
pay
applied
imaging.
You
know
x,
number
of
cents
for
black
and
white,
and
it's
almost
double
for
color,
and
we
that's
how
we
they
invoice
us,
that's
how
we
pay
them.
D
They
maintain
the
printers
they
provide
the
toner,
they
provide
the
maintenance
and
service
and
we
just
pay
them
basically
by
the
page,
almost
as
if
you
went
to
a
copy
center
right
and
and
paid
them
10
cents,
a
page.
Our
rate
is
much
cheaper
than
that
because
we
own
the
devices,
but
they
provide
all
that
service
for
us.
F
Well,
and
I'm
just
glad
that
we're
moving
now,
I
mean
I'm
hearing
all
the
conversation
about
chip
shortages
and
technology.
I
mean
correct
me
overseas
that
these
prices
are
everything's
expected
to
go
up
because
of
all
that,
so
getting
in
now
to
get
these
devices
now
is
the
time
to
do
it
and
buy
your
christmas
presents.
Thank.
A
You,
commissioner,
so
I
still
have
a
commissioner
mcgilvery
and
commissioner
woodward
wishing
to
speak.
So
if
you
don't
want
to
speak
anymore,
hit
the
red
button.
B
A
D
Okay,
thank
you,
commissioners.
So
this
is
a
contract
extension
request.
Just
a
little
bit
of
background.
I
won't
go
into
everything
that
I
submitted,
but
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions,
but,
but
just
so
you
know
we.
We
obviously
have
a
data
center
here
at
the
county.
D
D
D
We
also
don't
own
data
centers,
but
we
get
capacity
for
some
of
our
software
in
other
data.
Centers
with
systems
like
workday
workday
is,
is
what's
known
as
software
as
a
service,
so
that
software
does
not
run
in
our
data
center.
It
doesn't
even
run
in
a
data
center
that
we
contract
with
it
may
be
an
aws.
It
may
be
in
google's
cloud.
It
might
be
in
the
microsoft
cloud
that
depends
on
that
vendor
and
where
they
have
contracted
it.
D
So,
just
to
let
you
know
we
we
do
spend
a
fair
amount
of
money,
as
well
as
network
engineering
and
security
engineering,
to
have
these
services
available
and,
and
frankly,
one
of
the
benefits
of
that
has
been
our
ability
to
respond
through
the
pandemic.
For
example,
email
was
available
to
everybody
from
everywhere.
D
D
D
We
are
requesting
a
two-year
extension
for
that
and-
and
the
reason
is
the
complexity
behind
the
management
of
these
data
centers.
If,
if
you
could
imagine
you
know
the
work
that
goes
into,
you
know,
and
ed
joss
was
just
talking
about,
you
know,
building
a
restroom
right
if
we,
if
we
built
a
data
center
and
we
had
to
consider
the
cooling
and
the
electricity
and
the
floor
space
and
the
the
facilities
for
the
racks
and
the
power
and
all
of
the
hardware
that
goes
into
it.
D
We
contract
with
someone
else
to
do
all
of
that
work
for
us
and
they
provide
the
capability
for
us
to
do
that,
and
then
they
provide
a
bill
to
us
to
do
that.
That
is
that
is
in
our
current
budget.
It's
in
our
current
operating
model,
so
we're
not
asking
for
additional
funds.
It's
it's
already
outlooked.
D
We
have
historic
cost
figures
and
we
know
what
the
new
cost
figures
will
be.
So
this
is
an
extension
that
allows
us.
We
do
believe
that
this
should
go
out
for
bid.
We
do
believe
that
there
are
services
that
we
currently
are
purchasing,
that
we
can
bring
in-house
some
of
those
are
security
services.
Some
of
those
are,
you
know
the
building
of
the
the
applications
that
we
load
onto
these
servers.
D
So
there
are
many
things
that
we
can
continue
to
bring
in
house,
but
we
still
need
some
time
for
our
team
development.
We
still
need
some
time
to
manage
the
licenses
license.
Management
is,
it
is
a
huge,
huge
part
of
what
goes
into
managing
a
data
center
and
what
goes
into
managing
really
servers
and
I.t
contracts.
A
Okay,
commissioners
start
with
commissioner
cowall.
B
A
A
little
bit
more
intricate
than
that,
so
I
completely
understand-
and
I
appreciate
the
time
and
your
explanation.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
B
Long
that,
commissioner,
kowal
kind
of
ask
it
or
thank
you.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
are
going
to
go
out
for
bids,
but
you
explained
it
so
that
was
my
question.
I
just
don't
want
to
keep
extending
contracts
with
it,
but
you
you
answered
that.
Thank
you.
A
B
A
All
right
passes
unanimously.
Thank
you.
Everyone
next
up
item
number
9e
lease
agreement
with
amendment
number
two
with
hd
development
of
maryland
home
depot
usa.
C
A
D
D
These
two
are
the
last
lease
agreements
that
will
need
to
be
done
for
the
radio
project,
but
we
do
have
some
agreements
that
are
interlocal
agreements
to
provide
the
service
to
the
communities,
so
that
will
be
coming
in
the
future.
We're
not
we're
not
ready
to
provide
that
yet,
but
those
will
be
the
interlocal
agreements
to
provide
radio
service
and
then
finally,
we
will
bring
an
agreement
that
requires
the
chairman's
signature
related
to
our
final
step
in
integrating
our
radio
system
with
the
michigan
public
safety
commission.
D
A
B
B
A
G
Good
morning
this
is
kyle
jenn
and
lynn.
Sanchez
broadcasting
live
from
the
troy
conference
room
in
the
executive
office
building.
Can
you
hear
us.
G
Okay,
great
all
right,
so
you
have
before
you
the
third
quarter,
forecast
and
associated
budget
amendments.
You
know,
as
our
staff
has
worked
with
departments,
to
update
projections
on
both
the
revenue
and
the
expenditure
side.
You
know
we
find
ourselves
in
a
you
know,
I
think
a
strong
position
as
we
approach
the
close
of
the
fiscal
year
in
light
of
all
the
moving
pieces
that
have
have
occurred
over
the
last
year,
particularly
in
respect
to
the
pandemic.
G
If
you
break
that
down
we're
expecting
to
be
favorable
on
the
revenue
side
by
a
little
over
three
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars,
that
is
a
net
result
of
a
couple.
Major
factors.
One
is
that
the
clerk's
office
revenues
are
projected
to
come
in
5.7
million
dollars
higher
than
the
original
adopted
budget,
and
then
we
have
a
variety
of
other
revenues
across
departments
that
are
projected
to
be
about
5.3
million
lower.
A
number
of
those
you
know
are
related
to
slower
activity
because
of
covid
and
therefore
there
are
also
lower
levels
of
expenditures.
G
So
the
larger
dollar
amount
is
that
we're
projecting
41.7
million
dollars
in
lower
expenditures
than
were
originally
projected
and
included
in
the
budget.
There's
a
few
factors
there
there's
actually
a
cost
of
6.8
million
dollars
being
built
in
related
to
the
visit.
So
this
is
the
portion
of
the
8.5
million
dollars
in
visib
costs
that
will
occur
in
fiscal
year
2021
and
then
beyond
that
you
know,
there's
a
large
amount
of
favorability
related
to
personnel
and
operating
costs.
G
You
know
again,
I
think
you
know
at
least
partially
a
result
of
slower
slower
activities
in
a
number
of
departments
related
to
the
pandemic,
as
well
as
some
remaining
payroll
favorability
from
the
use
of
cares,
act
dollars
for
eligible
public
health
and
safety
payroll.
So
those
factors
get
you
to
the
42
million
in
favorability.
G
I
would
point
out
that
the
you
know
this
is
compared
to
the
amended
budget,
so
we
adopted
a
budget
plus
all
all
budget
amendments
that
have
been
adopted.
Prior
to
this.
You
know
accounting
for
those
budget
amendments.
G
Our
use
of
fund
balance
was
at
44.9
million
dollars,
as
a
number
of
res
resolutions
have
been
approved
for
pandemic
response
and
other
purposes.
So
you
know
this.
This
favorability
really
offsets
the
majority
of
that
and
right
now
we
are
projecting
that
the
use
of
fund
balance
in
fy
21
would
be
2.9
million,
so
a
relatively
small
amount.
There
will
certainly
be
some
some
further
adjustments,
as
we
you
know,
move
into
the
year-end
closing
process.
Just
a
couple
of
notes
also
highlighted
in
the
memo.
G
We
have
a
small
amount
of
unfavorable
expenditures,
just
in
two
departments:
economic
development
and
emergency
management.
Both
of
those
amounts
are
less
than
two
hundred
thousand
dollars,
and
we
expect
that
we'll
be
able
to
resolve
those
as
we
close
the
books
here.
So
that's
the
high
level
lynn
is
going
to
highlight
just
a
couple
of
the
key
budget
amendments
included
in
the
resolution.
E
Most
of
the
amendments
are
net
neutral.
It
doesn't
impact
the
bottom
line.
It's
either
moving
the
budget
from
one
division
to
another,
correcting
the
department
id
a
grant
number
a
program
number
or
moving
amounts
between
line
items.
It's
not
changing
the
bottom
line,
but
there
are
a
couple
items
within
or
whereas
statements
budget
amendments
that
are
requested
to
appropriate
additional
dollars
or
make
adjustments
that
do
impact
the
bottom
line,
but
are
I'll,
say
some
of
them.
E
Another,
whereas
budget
amendment
is
calling
out
for
a
approval
for
a
project.
That's
just
it's
on
pdf
106
into
107,
it's
the
last,
whereas
moving
roughly
34
000
to
appropriate
money
out
of
the
miscellaneous
capital
outlay
line
item
to
replace
some
aging
conference
center
shades.
Since
the
conference
center
is
used
quite
a
bit
for
virtual
meetings.
E
That
is
a
project
that
is
needed
and
would
be
moving
forward
upon.
Adoption
of
this
resolution,
the
next,
whereas
immediately
following
that
is
related
to
the
visa
funding.
So,
as
you
recall,
last
december,
there
was
a
resolution
to
approve
separation
incentive,
the
voluntary
employee
separation
incentive
program
and
then
the
the
vcc
that
was
recently
approved
and
where
both
of
those
resolutions
called
out
that
a
separate
resolution
or
budget
amendment
would
be
forthcoming
to
appropriate
dollars
that
it
wasn't.
It
was
indicated
that
there
would
be
use
of
fund
balance
for
those
for
that
visit
program.
E
The
budget
amendment
is
calling
out
for
6.8
million
as
kyle
referenced
for
2021
1.7
million
for
2022
and
one
just
over
a
million
dollars
for
2023.
E
and
finally,
on
pdf,
page
108
of
the
resolution.
Roughly
in
the
middle
of
the
page,
there
is
a
budget
amendment
for
a
resolution
that
was
approved
by
the
board
in
early
august
for
the
creation
of
the
new
department
of
public
communications.
E
We
did
have
a
budget
amendment
prepared
at
that
time,
but
it
changed
to
be
its
own
department,
so
we
had
to
go
ahead
and
create
an
additional
department
structure
and
that
budget
amendment
is
reflected
in
schedule
c
of
the
the
budget.
Amendment
schedules
so
typically
schedule
a
amendments
or
anything
that
impact
general
funds,
general
purpose,
schedule,
b
amendments
or
anything
that
reflect
or
impact
special
revenue
or
proprietary,
and
we
usually
reserve
schedule
c
amendments
for
anything
that
has
a
larger
impact
for
a
collective
I'll
say.
E
In
this
case,
it
was
a
four
four
pages
of
budgetary
amendments
that
we
had
to
do
to
move,
that
to
a
a
brand
new
department,
including
from
it
was
moving
from
originally
intended
to
be
under
emergency
management
and
became
its
own
department.
So
included
in
that
is,
is
the
shift
of
the
existing
appropriation
of
a
million
dollars
from
emergency
management
or
the
public
communications
operations
into
the
new
department,
and
it's
just
further
delineating
that
dollar
amount.
E
So
again,
that
resolution
was
approved
in
in
on
august
5th
resolution,
two
one,
three,
two
three-
and
this
is
just
the
technical
budgetary
amendment
to
facilitate
all
of
that
detail,
I
will
also
just
add,
as
kyle
noted,
there
are
a
couple
departments
that
were
watching
general
fund
general
purpose
departments,
economic
development,
emergency
management
that
we
should
be
able
to
resolve
at
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year.
There
is
one
proprietary
fund
that
we're
that
we
are
watching
it's
the
building
and
liability
fund.
E
We
do
with
this
quarterly
forecast.
That
fund
is
currently
projected
to
have
a
deficit
of
roughly
1.8
million
dollars
as
as
we
anticipated,
and
we
will
be
making
those
that
necessary
adjustment
at
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year
once
we
get
the
final
actuary
report
for
a
year
in
close,
so
you'll
be
seeing
an
authorization
for
to
resolve
that
issue
with
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year,
but
again
2022
forward.
Those
rates
have
been
adjusted
to
maintain
and
sustain
that
operation.
B
Thanks
chair,
hi,
kyle
and
lynn,
I
was
just
curious:
did
the
office
of
public
communications
in
this?
I
was
trying
to
follow
along,
but
did
the
office
of
public
communications
budget
go
down
by
thirty
four
thousand
dollars
because
you
had
to
clear
out
the
shades
or
is
it
still
the
same.
E
B
E
I
remember
also
does
get
used
by
other
area
that
conference
center
does
get
used
by
other
departments
as
well.
So
it's
not
exclusively
something
used
by
that
department.
E
Well,
what
we,
what
we
adjusted
is
we
took
it
out
of
the
miscellaneous
capital
outlay,
that's
a
non-departmental
and
we
usually
appropriate
it
to
probably
the
most
I'll
say,
most
representative
department
of
who
may
be
requesting
that
project
and
it
happened
to
be
them.
So
we
made
the
appropriation
we
reduced.
The
miscellaneous
capital
outlay
budget,
put
it
a
transfer
in
the
department
of
public
communications
to
give
it
to
the
project,
work,
quarterfinal.
C
A
G
Hello
again
so
before
you
have
a
resolution
that
would
10
million
in
in
arp
dollars
for
certain
county
operational
needs
in
response
to
the
pandemic.
G
If
I
could
I'll
just
step
back
and
try
to
provide
some
perspective,
there
is
a
memorandum
in
your
packet
that
you
might
have
had
a
chance
to
review
that
that
lays
out
this
context
as
well.
You
know,
certainly,
over
the
last
18
months,
the
county
has
responded
to
the
covet
19
pandemic
in
a
in
a
multitude
of
ways
in
in
in
terms
of
external
facing
programs,
you
know
coded
testing
and
vaccination
and
other
response
measures.
G
Over
the
last
really
several
months,
we
have
worked
very
closely
with
tom
hardesty,
with
the
department
of
department
of
emergency
management,
who
has
obviously
been
engaged
on
the
ground
on
these
response
efforts,
as
well
as
stacy
smith,
with
with
health
and
human
services,
to
make
sure
you
know
that
as
we're
as
we're
closing
out
the
year
that
we're
maximizing
all
available
federal
fund
sources
to
pay
for
these
response
costs
and
working
to
minimize
the
use
of
county
general
fund
dollars.
G
I'd
like
to
particularly
thank
holly
conforty
on
the
fiscal
services
team,
who,
I
think
is
on
the
line
she
has
spent
any
number
of
hours,
I'd
hate
to
count
up
the
number
of
hours
working
through
all
the
details
on
this.
G
In
total,
we
are
currently
projecting
that
the
county
will
expend
147
million
dollars
in
fiscal
year
2021
on
a
variety
of
pandemic
response
costs.
A
large
portion
of
that
will
be
funded
out
of
cures,
act
dollars,
so
128.6
million
dollars.
So
this
comes
out
of
the
county's
original
cares
act
allocation
of
219
million
dollars,
the
first
roughly
90
million
dollars
was
expended
in
fiscal
year
2020.
G
This
remaining
amount-
you
know,
has
been
expended
for
for
the
various
programs
that
the
board
has
approved,
as
well
as
operational
costs
for
the
county.
G
There's
also
the
10
million
dollars
of
general
fund
that
the
board
approved
and
has
been
managed
by
the
ad
hoc
pandemic
response
committee.
You
know
that
was
intended
to
be
an
advance
on
receiving
some
of
these
other
federal
dollars
when
it
was
approved
earlier
this
year,
and
then,
additionally,
there
are,
you
know
a
number
of
expenses
particularly
related
to
vaccination
costs
that
are
covered
and
funded
100
by
fema,
so
those
are
kind
of
all
of
the
fun
sources
that
have
existed.
G
G
G
There
is
a
list
of
of
the
major
categories
that
we've
identified,
including,
for
example,
food
service
costs
at
jail
which
has
been
handled
by
outside
contracts
since
jail
inmates
are
unable
to
perform
food
service
for
work
during
the
pandemic.
There's
a
variety
of
it
costs.
You
know
that
have
been
incurred
for
for
remote
work,
for
the
board's,
webcasting
upgrades
and
and
a
few
other
things.
There
are
the
cleaning
costs
at
the
animal
shelter
again
because
jail
inmate
trustees
can't
perform
that
work
during
the
pandemic.
G
G
Primarily
there
are
four
million
dollars
in
non-departmental
costs
for
things
like
staffing,
the
emergency
operations
center
screening
at
county
facilities
and
managing
the
warehouse
where
our
ppe
has
been
stored,
as
well
as
some
some
direct
ppe
purchases
that
aren't
covered
by
other
fund
sources,
and
then,
additionally,
we
have
the
contractual
support
on
board
to
make
sure
we're
compliant
with
all
federal
requirements
related
to
arp
and
then,
lastly,
about
2.75
million
dollars
would
be
used
to
fund
things
that
were
previously
funded
by
the
10
million
dollar
general
fund
advance.
G
G
No
and
then
you
know
these,
these
remaining
three
items
would
be
covered
by
arp
so
that
we're
not
incurring
the
county
general
fund
expense,
1.9
million
dollars
for
supplies,
public
testing
and
other
operational
costs,
and
then
a
total
of
850
000
for
the
two
vaccine,
incentives
that
were
approved
by
the
ad
hoc
committee,
you
know
for
the
public
facing
vaccine
incentive,
as
well
as
the
vaccine
incentive.
That's
been
made
available
to
county
employees.
So
you
know
this
has
been
obviously
everything
to
the
pandemic.
G
Things
that
move
fast
as
the
county
has
responded
as
we
move
into
fbi
2022.
Our
goal
is
to
return
to
a
more
traditional
budget
process
where
we've
got
fund
sources
more
clearly
identified
up
front.
I've
attached
a
memorandum
that
we've
sent
out
to
departments
emphasizing
that
point,
and
we
expect
to
have
a
list.
G
You
know
as
soon
as
this
is
approved
or
we're
going
to
move
into
the
phase
of
what
ongoing
costs
in
terms
of
food
service,
cleaning
costs
and
other
things
will
need
to
be
covered
by
arp
nfl
2022
and
bring
that
list
to
you
as
soon
as
we
have
it.
So
that's
you
know.
There's
a
lot
of
moving
pieces
there
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
I
think
tom
is
also
on
the
line.
A
B
I
know
he's
probably
not
watching.
At
least
that
was
a
nice
memo
with
it.
So
I'm
just
making
sure
on
this
resolution
right
now.
The
10
million
is
just
for
the
reimbursement
of
the
vaccines,
with
the
with
the
four
items
or
whatever
listed
in
the
testing
and
stuff.
That
is
for
that
only
this
10
million
of
this
resolution
is
that
correct
so
like
where
it
says
it's.
I've
got
to
go
back
to
my
resolution,
so
this
10
million
is
going
to
be
used
for
related
vaccines,
contact.
G
Making
right
so
it's
it's,
I
mean
it's
the
full
list
of
bullets
that
starts
at
the
bottom
of
page
one
of
my
memo
and
runs
onto
page
two
okay,
so
this
is
for
county
operational
costs.
You
know,
as
opposed
to
you,
know
some
of
the
external
facing
programs
to
to
to
to
deal
with
acute
needs
of
of
county
residents
and
businesses
that
the
board
has
previously
approved
out
of
aarp.
A
B
And
more
of
these
resolutions
with
a
dollar
amount
for
different
expenditures
in
the
future
right
is
that
correct
for
the
other
factors.
G
For
for
fy
2021,
you
know
we're
asking
for
the
authorization
to
cover
the
expenses
laid
out
in
the
memo
as
we
as
we
close
out
fiscal
year.
2021
we'll
provide
a
final
list
of
those,
but
because
of
timing,
you
know
the
the
the
resolution
itself
doesn't
include
all
that
detail
at.
B
G
G
Not
so
this
is,
you
know
this
is
this
is
largely
overtime
for
those
employees.
You
know,
that's.
That's
that's
created
specifically
by
the
pandemic,
as
opposed
to
their
base
payroll.
B
Okay,
when
thinking
about
the
okay,
the
two
million
dollars-
oh
there's
250
000,
going
to
among
other
things,
I
t
board
of
commissioners
webcasting,
upgrade
gis,
hr,
stuff
and
digital
media
response.
Is
that
like
facebook,
ads
and
stuff
like
that,.
B
Okay,
also,
the
one
million
dollar
for
the
sheriff's
office
to
do
food
contract
service
one
because
we
were
talking
about
contracts
with
it.
Aaron
aramark's
been
the
sheriff's
contractor,
for
I
think
it's
18
years.
B
G
That
is
a
rounded
number.
The
more
precise
number
is
somewhere
in
the
stack
of
paper.
G
B
B
Okay
and
then
the
last
question-
oh,
I
was,
I
was
I'm
curious
about
the
the
10
million
dollars
we
did
from
our
general
fund
for
pandemic
response
that
you
mentioned
earlier
about
2.1
from
already
being
spent
out
of
that
10
million-
and
I
know
tom
has
come
here
before
to
say
that
some
of
that
10
million
has
been
reimbu
reimbursed
so
have
we
expired
or
spent
all
the
have.
We
expended
all
of
that
10
million
dollars
that
we
advanced,
because
if
not,
why
are
we
using
2.75
from
arp?
G
Yep,
so
that's
a
great
question
so
out
of
the
10
million
dollars
that
was
initially
authorized
as
advanced
funding,
8.4
million
dollars
was
was
approved
for
allocation
by
the
ad
hoc
committee.
G
Or
arp
funding,
the
remaining
2.1
million
dollars
will
stay
as
a
general
fund
expenditure
but
then
get
reimbursed
by
fema
as
we
go
forward,
you
know
so
those
dollars
will
will
sit
there,
but
we'll
then
be
offset
by
revenue,
we'll
receive
down
the
road,
and
I
should
mention
you
know
that
polling
back
then
that
that
that
eight
million
dollars
of
the
ten
million
dollar
authorization
that
won't
be
used
is
included.
G
B
G
B
G
G
G
Another
chunk-
and
I
don't
have
the
total
dollar
amount
in
front
of
me-
is
being
moved
to
health
department
grants
again
because
the
general
fund
was
operated
in
advance
in
anticipation
of
receiving
those
dollars
and
then
just
the
2.1
million
dollars
will
remain
as
a
general
fund
expenditure,
because
female
requires
you
to
spend
the
money
up
front.
We're.
A
F
B
F
The
it's
okay,
yes,
I'm
answering
nice.
We
had
mike
tim
here,
fix
it
yeah.
I
I
think
too
I
mean
commissioner.
Cabell
was
talking
about
that
when
we
advanced
the
10
million
dollars,
it
was
like
we're.
Gonna
put
some
money
up
right
now,
make
it
available,
and
we
knew
that
fema
would
reimburse
for
so
much.
F
We
knew
there
would
be
state
money
would
come
through
through
appropriations,
with
the
whole
goal
of
putting
as
much
of
that
money
back
in
front,
so
that
we
had
the
money
that
we
could
actually
be
pushing
out,
and
so
I
mean
I
think
that
that
conversation
was
really
important,
because
I
looked
at
the
same
thing
I
said
like
well,
we've
already
appropriated
this,
but
we're
basically
reimbursing
our
general
fund
for
things
that
we
did
for
the
pandemic.
That's
an
eligible
cost,
so
that
makes
sense
on.
F
There
are
a
couple
of
things
I
see
like
about
250
000,
and
I
guess
this
is
going
to
come
to
a
conversation
that
will
will
wrap
up
also
with
the
budget.
I
mean.
I
know
that
over
the
course
of
this.
That
is
we're
responding
to
the
pandemic.
We
need
to
move
fast,
we
have
to
account.
We
have
to
address
the
the
situations
that
emerge.
The
animal
control
I
mean
cover
the
cleaning
costs.
I
believe
I
understand
that
we
actually
did
contract
for
these
services.
F
With
I
mean
this
was
not
overtime
to
additional
staff
that
we
contracted
with
us.
So
we
have
a
policy
of
I
mean
contracts.
I
mean
above
250
thousand
dollars
coming
to
this
board.
When
I
see
about
250
000,
I
don't
know
if
that
means
that
it's
249
999,
that's
why
the
contract
didn't
come.
So
my
question
is:
was
that
in
fact,
a
contract
that
we
entered
into
to
address
this
issue,
which
I
don't
think
anyone
disagrees.
F
Where
is
that
contract
if
it's
above
250
000
that
it
should
have
been
a
contract
that
came
before
the
board,
I
realize
a
lot
of
things
are
going
on,
so
I'm
not
pointing
fingers,
but
I
guess
that's
my
first
question:
is
it
above
250
thousand
dollars
and
if
so,
where's
the
con
who's
the
contract
with
and
where
is
it.
G
Certainly
so
the
the
contractor
used
for
this
was
a
contractor
that
the
county
already
has
a
contract
with
for,
for
general
cleaning
costs
named
sabre
s-a-b-e-r.
So
fortunately,
you
know
because
of
the
timing.
We
were
able
to
use
utilize
that
contract
and
and
add
these
services
they're
at
their
standard
rate,
to
deal
with
the
cleaning
needs
of
the
animal
shelter.
Okay,.
F
So
this
is
so
we
we
didn't
use
saber
at
the
animal
shelter
beforehand.
We
just
we
used
this
cleaning
ser
service
above
our
maintenance
staff
in
county
facilities.
Is
that
or
does
saber
do
something
else
that
we
contract
with,
and
then
we
added
cleaning
services
to
it.
F
Okay
related
to
I
mean
also
commissioner
cabell
talking
about
the
additional
food
services.
Is
this
an
additional
million
dollars
to
the
food
service
contract
at
the
jail,
or
was
it
to
a
different
entity
to
provide
staffing
to
do
that
work.
C
They
did
get
some
additional
out
of
them;
they
actually
couldn't
provide
everything
they
needed
and
then
some
of
it
was
actually
mris
because
that's
what
they
could
get
to
supply.
I
don't
know
if
that's
100
of
that,
but
that's
two
of
the
big
chunks
there.
F
F
F
So
I
mean
I
guess,
knowing
what
that
contract
was.
I
guess
I
kind
of
I
assume
I
mean.
Was
it
bid
out
if
it
was?
If
it
wasn't,
I
mean
because
of
an
emergency
I
mean
there's
there's
provision
for
some
sole
sourcing.
F
That's
I
mean
it's
a
contract
that
I
would
like
to
see
and
if
it's
over
250
000
and
it
wasn't
with
an
existing
contract
that
reasonably
adds
on
to
what
we
currently
have
is
a
contract
that
should
have
come
before
the
board
and
would
like
that
and
would
like
that
to
be.
I
mean
we're
doing
it
after
the
fact,
and
I
mean
going
forward
and
we're
in
a
pandemic
and
we're
moving
fast,
and
I
mean
I
want
to
commend.
F
I
also
mean
not
just
holly
and
I
mean
the
fiscal
team,
but
everybody
that
was
involved
in
moving
these
resources
out
faster
than
any
other
county
in
the
country.
That
I
mean
you
have
to
have
some
grace
in
some
of
this
to
be
to
be
respond
to
the
pandemic.
That
being
said,
I'm
gonna
zero
in
on
the
four
million.
I
think,
let
me
tell
you
know
where
I'm
going
to
go
with
this
there
there's
a
guide
house
contract
that
we've
been
working
with.
That's
providing
this
guidance,
there's
no
question.
F
That
is
a
contract
that
must
come
before
this
board,
so
it
must
be
approved
by
this
board,
and
I
know
that
we
in
and
we
interacted,
we
engage
with
them
for
services.
I
think,
as
a
I
mean,
I
think,
is
a
good
practice.
I
think
we
all
are
glad
that
we
have.
F
I
mean
they
without
question
one
of
the
most
experienced
and
best
firms
to
step
into
that
space,
but
that
is
that
definitely
is
a
new
contract
and
I
would
like
to
have
that
contract
and
I
would,
as
part
of
approving
this,
that
that
that
and
frankly
anything
else
in
that
4
million-
that
is
above
250
000
for
other
services
outside
some
of
the
again,
the
other
emergency
operations
and
things
that
we
have
been
doing
or
that
hasn't
been
approved.
Already,
like
the
the
lease.
F
I
assume
the
four
million
helps
cover
the
lease
costs
for
the
building,
where
we're
storing
our
ppe
and
all
that
type
of
stuff
that
all
did
go
through
in
oversight
process.
The
guide
house
contract
never
did,
and
I'm
gonna
be
a
stickler
that.
I
firmly
believe
that
this
board
needs
to.
I
mean
formally
approve
that
contract
to
be
congruent
with
our
policy,
so.
F
To
get
but
would
like
the
contract
by
the
end
of
the
month.
A
F
I
mean
I
guess
unless
people
want
to
wait,
but
I
mean
I'm,
we
have
it,
we
know
we
have
it
we're
relying
on
it.
It's
a
contract
that
this
board,
in
my
opinion,
should
have
been
part
of
the
approval
process.
I
understand
I
mean
we,
I
mean
we
granted
some
money
through
that
the
emergency
pandemic
and
the
10
million
dollars
there
was
a
mechanism
to
actually
advance
some
money
if
necessary.
That
committee
could
have
released
some
of
those
dollars.
If
that
never
happened
through
that
this
is,
I
mean.
F
This
is
something
that
I
mean
from
our
from
a
constitutional
or
excuse
me,
contractual
oversight,
role,
absolutely
and
it's
a
significant
contract,
and
so
it
may
be
at
minimum.
I
think
we've
got
to
like
clean
up
that
and
I
want
everyone
to
see
that
contract
and
understand
the
terms
of
what
that
means.
G
Be
sure
to
follow
up
on
all
those
contract
details
by
the
end
of
this
week.
Mr
chairman,
all
right.
F
B
Would
be
postponed,
you
mean
to
just
to
be
clear,
postponed
to
a
date
certain
or
just
postponed.
B
I
have
a
question.
I
have
a
question
to
chairman
to
our
chairman
woodward.
Would
this
satisfy
you
to
table
it
until
you
get
the
information
that
you
believe
we
should
have.
F
Sure
I
mean
so
what
I
wanna,
I
guess
sure
I'm
if,
if
we
do
that,
I
would
I
mean
ask
the
chair
of
committee.
If
we
could
gather
again
before
I
mean
we,
don't
we're
not
scheduled
to
vote
as
a
board
until
the
end
of
this
month.
So
we
I
mean,
there's
there's
time
that
the
finance
committee
could
reconvene
and
then
we
could
address
this
issue
there.
I
think
that
would
be
appropriate.
F
I
would
be
fine
with
that,
but
I
would
like
I
think
it
is
important,
as
we
kind
of
clean
up
the
books
for
september,
I
mean
for
the
fiscal
year
that
we
get
all
this
other
stuff.
That's
here,
and
this
is
I
mean,
as
I
think,
as
I
mean
kyle
talked
about,
I
mean
front-
I
mean
putting
better
stronger.
I
mean
procedures
in
place
going
forward.
F
These
are
all
things
I
mean
every
100
percent
of
everything
in
that
128.6
dollars
of
carriage
dollars
came
through
this
board
and
I'm
very
proud
and
thankful
for
all
the
commissioners
that
put
in
all
the
extra
time
to
do
that.
I
think
this
is
important.
So
if
we
as
long
as
the
finance
committee
can
gather
before
the
next
board
meeting,
I
would
like
to
get
this
resolution
adopted
at
our
next,
our
next
scheduled
board
meeting,
so
I
mean
I'm
fine
to
table
it
now
and
then
we
can
come
back.
Okay,
that's
a.
B
A
F
B
A
A
B
Oh
I'll,
be
here
on
the
29th,
so
we
could
figure
out.
We
don't.
B
A
Okay,
we
do
have
to
follow
the
open
meetings
act
so
we'll
have
to
have
a
couple
of
days,
notification
in
advance
and
that
sort
of
thing.
So
all
right-
my
calendar
says
sometime
next
the
end
of
next
week
toward
the
end
of
next
week.
So
if
we
have
all
the
information,
that's
what
I'm
going
to
be
looking
for,
so
that
if
there
are
any
questions,
we've
cleared
stuff
up
before
the
final
vote
on
the
29th.
A
A
A
A
A
H
Thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much
for
accommodating
my
schedule.
So
over
the
next
few
meetings,
you're
going
to
see
a
lot
of
me
as
we
have
nine
open
union
contracts-
and
this
is
just
some
pieces
of
it.
H
As
you
know,
back
in
december,
the
uaw
started
to
to
form
in
some
different
departments
and
we
created,
what's
called
a
master
agreement
and
as
we
go
forward
with
different
departments,
they
all
have
different
needs.
We
have
what's
called
supplemental
agreement,
so
what
you
have
before
you
hear
is
our
first
few
supplemental
agreements
and
I'm
going
to
go
over
those
fairly
high
level.
H
There
wasn't
a
lot
of
issues
or
or
different
things
that
we
needed
to
really
adjust
what
you'll
see
here
and
as
I
go
through
all
of
these,
not
only
here
in
item
a
but
in
item
b,
is
memorializing
kind
of
what
was
happening
with
the
non-union
during
that
time
and
making
sure
that
it
was
in
place
in
the
in
these
contracts.
I.E,
you
know
if
they
were
getting
uniforms.
A
F
A
B
A
H
So
what
you
have
here,
we'll
go
through
a
first
is
the
supplemental
for
supervisory
groups
and
again
so
we
have
kind
of
interesting.
We
have
supplementals
for
the
supervisors
by
department
and
supervised
and
then
non-supervisory
by
department,
so
there's
a
one
master
degree
agreement,
but
we'll
have
an
overview,
probably
between
nine
and
ten
supplementals,
because
again
each
unit
or
each
department
may
have
like
little
nuances.
So
what
we
have
here
on
a
is
a
supervisory
groups
for
facilities,
maintenance
operations
or
for
the
supervisors
for
facilities,
homeland
security,
some
human
resources
and
water
resources.
H
Commissioner
and
again,
you'll
see
in
your
summary,
it's
a
fairly
decent
summary
of
capturing
what
we
would
call
normal
common
practice
and
placing
it
into
the
union
contract.
They
all
agreed
to
maintain
the
current
comp
plan,
as
is
with
the
same
steps
in
the
same
ranges.
H
There
might
have
been
one-offs
in
there
here
or
there,
but
for
this
one
in
particular,
we
were
memorializing
their
shift,
premiums,
boot
allowances
and
uniforms,
and
again
it
was
pretty
common
practice
with
an
apartment
we
just
memorialized
it
and
then
addressing
and
confirming
their
on-call
pay
and
overtime
pay.
A
B
A
H
Again,
this
one
is
non-supervisor.
This
is
our
human
resources
department
and
a
few
units
within
classifications
within
the
finance
department,
again
memorializing
some
things
and
clarifying
how
they,
how
some
of
their
pay
might
work
if
they're
410,
but
again
he
kept
the
same
comp
plan.
No
major
changes
to
address
just
clarifying
common
practice.
A
A
Last
time
it
was
gary,
it's
always
scary.
It's
the
first
time
all
right.
Well,
she
carries
motion
carries
unanimously.
Thank
you
very
much
item
number
10c
fiscal
year:
2021
oakland
county
employees,
union
affiliated
with
the
international
brotherhood
of
electrical
workers,
local
58,
afl,
cio,
oceu
wage
reopener.
H
Okay,
this
one's
a
little
different.
This
is
the
ibew.
They
had
a
wage
reopener.
This
year
we
had
already
approved
the
majority
of
the
units,
I'm
the
only
one
left
was
wrc
and
we've
come
to
an
agreement
for
just
the
wrc
unit,
the
ones
other
units
within
that
wage
opener
had
already
been
approved
by
this
board.
So
this
is
the
last
one
left
for
them,
and
then
they
go
back
into
another
wage
reopener
this
next
year
and
then
they'll
be
fully
open.
The
following
year.
B
A
H
So
again,
this
is
also
a
normal
course
of
action
for
the
board
of
commissioners.
As
you
know,
while
we
do
work
through,
you
know,
assessing
what
our
budget
needs
are
for
the
year,
there's
still
a
emotion
that
needs
to
be
made
on
what
the
actual
general
increases
are.
So
I
just
want
to
talk
about
that
just
a
little
bit,
because
it's
a
little
bit
different
this
year.
H
Nothing
too
crazy,
but
we
have
again,
as
I
said,
nine
out
of
our
eleven
contracts
are
open
this
year,
and
so,
when
we
looked
at
our
like
three-year
forecast
going
out,
we
did
budget
two
percent
of
what
we
call
total
compensation
as
a
budget
guide
post
for
us
as
we
go
through
this
as
I'm
going
through
all
of
these,
not
only
union
negotiations,
but
we
need
to
address
that
in
the
non-union
as
well,
and
so
what
I
mean
by
total
compensation
is
especially
when
all
these
contracts
are
open,
that
there
might
be
some
other
ancillary
benefits
that
we
may
not
meet
that
we
may
want
to
work
with
with
the
unions
and
then
again
with
the
non-union,
I.e
extra
contributions
to
retirement
different
contributions.
H
Maybe
to
the
retiree
care,
or
anything
like
that-
is
part
of
that
two
percent,
so
this
year
we're
actually
recommending
a
1.5
increase
to
the
to
the
general
salary.
So
these
are
all
folks
who
are
not
covered
by
a
union
contract.
H
As
I
work
through
a
few
more,
I
have
some
tentative
agreements
with
some
unions
that
we're
hopefully
bringing
in
on
october
and
we'll
be
able
to
close
out
a
few
more
at
that
time.
Once
I
see
where
all
of
the
what
I
call
non
312
or
basically
minus
the
sheriff,
I
can
re-uh
calibrate
the
non-union
as
well
to
see
if
there's
any
ancillary
benefits
that
we
want
to
address
with
them
again,
maybe
an
increase
in
contributions
to
our
retirement
whatnot.
H
So
we
are
recommending
a
1.5
percent
and
then
more
than
likely,
I
will
I
know
for
sure
that
I'll
be
coming
with
another
request
in
november,
for
potentially
some
supplemental
benefits
that
that
again,
I
want
to
see
where
we
end
up
with
the
other
unions
and
realign
and
shuffle
to
get
everybody
more
in
alignment
with
synergy.
So
there's
two
things
I
believe
here.
H
A
Thank
you
comments.
Questions,
commissioner,
woodward.
F
Yeah
and
april
you
mentioned-
I
just
want
to
like
underscore
it
so
the
the
recommended
budget
overall
built
in
a
two
percent
across
the
board,
the
1.5
percent,
recommended
as
a
the
wage
increase,
mostly
really
inflationary,
related
and
leaving
that
extra
0.5
percent
to
address
those
other
things
you
talked
about.
So
it's
it
is.
It
is
captured
that
is
captured
in
the
full
budget.
F
H
Right,
let
me
pull
up
something
really
quick
here.
I
can
give
you
one.
Second,
I
don't
know
if
kyle
is
still
on
here,
but
I
know
he
was
able
to
send
something
to
so
in
total.
I
believe
that
there's
a
for
two
percent
and
total
compensation
comes
out
to
about
5.4
million
dollars
in
general
fund
at
1.5,
that
is
about
4.1,
so
it
leaves
about
1.3
million
on
the
table
for
some
extra
benefits
as
we
work
through
that
process.
B
H
H
H
H
F
And
just
I
mean
related
to
that
point,
also
part
of
the
comp
study.
We
did
do
a
one
percent
equity
payment
so
that
I
mean
that
wasn't
it
that
didn't
address
the
base,
it
was
a
one
percent
equity
payment
to
bridge
the
gap
to
get
us
to
the
comp
study
that
we
implemented
at
the
end
of
the
year.
That's
what
makes
it
unique.
B
H
There
is
no
expectation
it
all.
It
depends
on
the
year
two
percent
is
has
been
averaged
for
a
while
and
probably
moving
going
forward,
we'll
probably
be
closer
to
there,
but
again
because
we're
re
because
of
all
the
union
contracts
kind
of
be
looking
at
some
of
our
benefits.
This
year,
I'm
recommending
a
1.5
and
we'll
come
back
with
a
discussion
on
potentially
contributions
to
retirement
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
there
is
no
general
expectation.
B
H
So
yeah,
so
I
believe
I
I
think
heather
mason
had
sent
something,
I'm
not
sure
if
you
guys
got
it
in
time
where
we
have
about
700
class
600
classifications,
so
it
covers
so
it's
merit.
People
who
are
in
merit
who
are
non-union
as
well
is
appointed,
which
is
another
large
group,
so
it
can
range
everywhere
from
somebody
like
me
to
some
of
the
secretaries
to
the
judges.
H
H
A
Is
that
a
commissioner
yep,
okay,
commissioner
mcgilvray?
Oh
you
signed
up,
but
you
don't.
She
answered
my
questions.
Okay,
all
right!
Thank
you!
Anybody
else.
I
have
a
question
about
these.
This
last
half
a
percent
that
you're
setting
aside
and
maybe
we're
going
to
use
in
the
future.
A
H
Yeah
so
like,
for
instance,
potentially
an
increase
in
match
and
contribution
to
457
some
wellness
benefits
or
anything
of
that
nature.
Like
I
said
right
now,
I've
got
two
more
unions
coming
across
the
pike
and
we're
looking
at
it.
Possibly
increasing
some
of
those
like
the
big
one
will
be
a
increase
in
the
match
to
the
457.
A
H
We're
not
the
word
someday,
I'm
hoping
to
come
with
a
performance
plan
like
that,
but
today
this
would
just
be
benefits
that
would
that
would
go
toward
everybody,
okay
and
then
negotiating
those
with
the
unions
as
well
like,
I
said,
because
we
have
all
of
them
open
at
one
time.
I
just
want
to
see
where
everything
kind
of
comes
out
and
then
recalibrate
the
non-union
as
well.
H
H
F
I'm
just
to
that
point
and
I
think
for
the
finance
committee
that
whatever
this
other
0.5
thing
is,
that
will
come
before
the
finance
committee.
It's
not
it.
So
it's
I
mean
that
whatever
that
comes
up
to
be
and
what
it
looks
like
and
or
some
permutation
of
whatever
the
options
are,
that
will
come
back
before
all
of
you.
F
It
I
mean
in
terms
of
a
budget
perspective,
it's
captured
in
the
budget
I
mean
and
accounted
for,
and
we
have
a
way
to
pay
for
it
and
how
it
gets
used
april
will
probably
be
bringing
the
recommendation,
and
then
this
committee
will
review
it.
B
A
B
B
I
can
go
through
this
material
if
you'd
like
or
you
know,
answer
any
questions
you
have,
but
you
know
I'm
looking
for
your
feedback
and
comfort
level
with
moving
forward,
but
the
idea
here
is
to
have
a
common
assessment
tool,
evaluation
standards
to
put
proponents
from
new
programs
through
the
paces.
To
ask
some
critical
questions
to
you
know
ensure
that
before
we
start
deliberating
on
these
proposals,
they
align
with
our
overall
objectives.
A
Thank
you
yeah,
and
I
will
I'll
say
that
mr
ward
came
a
few
days
ago
to
me
with
this
and
I
said
yeah
we
can
put
it
on
the
agenda,
but
I
really
want
it
to
be
a
discussion
point
not
we're
not
going
to
vote
yes
or
no
on
this
today.
Unless
everybody
says
we
really
love
it
the
way
it
is.
I
really
felt
like
the
finance
committee
individually,
members
will
have
some
opinions
and
ideas
of
things
they
want
to
add
to
this.
So
this
is
a
discussion.
A
More
than
anything,
I
think
yeah
and
so-
and
I
see
commissioner
kowal
over
here-
nodding
her
head
that
she's
in
favor
of
a
common
set
of
standards
by
which
we're
going
to
evaluate
these
proposals,
and
I'm
in
support
of
that
myself.
So
let's
go
ahead
and
everybody
sign
up
to
speak
and
I
will
call
on
you
in
the
order
you
showed
up.
I.
A
B
You
thanks
chair,
hey
chris.
How
do
you
see
yeah?
This
looks
very
good
to
me.
How
do
you
see
a
like
working
through
the
process
of
like,
for
example,
housing
right
being
part
of
the
housing
arp
study
group
to
come
up
with
recommendations
and
ideas?
How,
if
there's
a
resolution
related
to
arpa?
How
do
you
see
it
having
to
fit
into
these
guidelines?
What
should
we
be
putting
in
the
resolution?
What
does
this
change?
Who
we
talk
to
in
what
order
yeah?
What
do
you
think
so?
B
The
objective
here
would
be
to
have
this
pre-evaluation
assessment
tool
be
provided
to
both
the
administration
and
the
board
of
commissioners.
When
you
know
a
proposal
is
brought
forward
so
that
you
know
you,
as
elected
officials,
can
make
an
informed
decision,
and
you
know
look
at
the
answers
that
the
proponent
is
putting
forward.
So
if
you
had
something
coming
out
of
and
it
would
be
mutually,
you
know,
administration
proposals
and
board
proposals,
those
coming
from
outside
and
these
other
elected
officials
all
would
kind
of
go
through
the
same
objective
standards
and
evaluation.
B
B
That
would
be
the
the
goal
here
is
to
have
the
proponent
detail,
how
they're
meeting
these
objectives-
or
you
know
exactly
so
you
know
how
they
meet.
You
know
these
criteria.
Okay,
thanks.
That
sounds
smart.
A
Thank
you,
man,
chair.
Thank
you
chris.
I
really
like
this
overarching
philosophy
instead
of
like
just.
B
A
Perhaps
look
at
changing
here
and
that
is
f
place,
making
and
infrastructure
and.
F
F
F
No,
I
mean
I
think
I
mean
so
what
I
mean.
What
I
like
about,
how
these
priority
area
focuses
they
nicely
fit
into
you
know,
provable
expenditures
is
being
allowed
by
arpa.
F
I
mean
I
think
I
mean
around
housing
and
food.
I
mean,
I
think,
there's
other
like
economic
security
issues
that
we
might
want
to
also
capture.
I
mean
I
think
it
fits
in
that
same
economic
insecurity,
housing,
food
and
maybe
other
things.
It
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
I
guess
like
one
and
it's
looking
at
this
when
a
proposal
comes
forward
is
a.
I
think
that
that
whoever
is
proposing
a
department,
the
executive,
the
board
or
whatever,
to
be
able
to
speak
to.
How
does
this
accomplish
this?
F
I
wonder
if
there's
a
value
of
some
metric
to
to
capture
this,
the
function
of
scale
so
like
doing
something
in
a
very
specific
area
has
certainly
high
impact
to
those
individuals
doing
something
similar
across
a
larger
area,
services,
more
people
and
so
there's
kind
of
to
me,
there's
a
little
bit
of
a.
How
do
we?
How
do
we
capture
the
impact
of
scale
other
than
just
like
it's
a
bigger
amount
of
money?
F
Something
like
that
so
to
help
with
the
evaluation
thing,
and
I'm
when
I,
when
I
look
at
this,
that
was
actually
what
stuck
on
me
more
like.
How
do
we
take
these
ideas
and
then
fit
them
in
a
way
to
help
capture
priority?
We
have
a
lot
of
resources,
I'm
happy
to
say
the
things
that
we
have
been
doing,
I
think,
can
nicely
fit
into
these
appropriate
buckets
and
I
think
it's
a
guiding
principle
concept.
B
Thank
you,
mr
definitely
excellent
point
so
tried
to
capture
that
in
the
efficient
criteria.
Perhaps
we
need
to
you
know,
work
on
some
language
to
build
that
out,
make
it
clear
and
reach
the
objective
that
you
were.
You
know.
Speaking
to
you
know,
I
think
we've
seen
some
some
excellent
proposals,
but
when
it
comes
to
you
know
implementation,
sometimes
the
cost-benefit
ratio
doesn't
play
out
well
in
terms
of
how
much
time
and
energy
and
effort
goes
to
administration
versus
deploying
funds
to
help
people.
D
F
No,
I
think
that's
I
mean
it's
something
that
we
learn
through
the
cares
process
how
to
get.
I
mean
small
checks
out
to
people
small
grants
out
to
small
organizations
and
we
had
to
build
an
entire
infrastructure,
how
to
quantify
it
measure
it,
and
I
mean
from
a
personnel
point
of
view,
it's
I
think,
there's
the
cost
of
doing
it
and
it
can
be
contracted
out
and
then
there's
I
mean
the
time
and
efficiency
to
be
able
to
do
that.
So
I
I
agree.
A
Anybody
else
I
have
a
couple
of
questions.
One
is
where
does
child
care
fit
in
all
of
this,
because
that's
a
big
priority
for
the
board,
I
know,
is
making
sure
we
support
child
care.
A
B
A
B
I
think
the
behavioral
health
reference
and
a
there
right,
it
captures
mental
health.
You
know
some
of
the
feedback
we
received
when
we
did
the
acute
proposals
was
mental
health
as
a
term
doesn't
capture
a
large
enough
group
of
need.
So,
but
you
know
if
we
want
to
spell
that
out
as
well,
I
don't
see
a
problem
with
that.
A
B
Weren't
finished
this
was
a
editing
issue
where
it
was
originally
in
and
taken
output
back
in
again
I
mean
we
can.
We
can
fill
in
the
detail
a
little
bit
more,
but
I
think
the
idea
here
was
to
have
some
examples
underneath
each
one,
if
you'd
like
just
to
fill
that
in
a
little
bit,
I
definitely
have
some
thoughts
in
terms
of
technology
investments,
service
improvements,
investing
in
our
our
employees
and
talent.
B
Yes,
I
appreciate
that
these
are
appear
to
be
written,
to
be
so
vague
and
elastic,
to
encompass
just
about
anything
and
to
not
tie
our
hands
so
well
done.
Thank
you
very
much
and
I'll
go
in
favor
of
it
all
right.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
I'm
going
to
leave
that
right
where
it's
at.
B
A
B
Did
you
say
an
internal
document
or
an
eternal
document?
Well,
these
are
not
eternal
funds,
so
I
guess
well,
you
know
our
program's
programs
evaluating
proposals
well.
C
B
You
want
to
let
everybody
bring
it
to
the
board,
let
everybody
throw
it
in
the
soup.
Why
not,
yes,
and
so
as
we're
developing
our
proposals
and
evaluating
others
proposals
we're
using
this
as
a
working
document.
That's
all
I
wanted
to.
A
Okay,
good
well-
and
it
helps
us
too,
because
we're
talking
about
the
same
kind
of
thing
at
a
board
level
for
just
regular
projects.
So
all
of
this
is
a
nice
segue
to
be
using
standard
ways
of
thinking
of
how
we're
going
to
spend
this
money.
So
so
I
guess
we're
going
to
receive
it
receive
and
file
at
this
time.
Is
that
what
we
should
do?
Pam
you're
my
expert
or.
A
B
Yeah
the
so
this
would
be
the
motion
to
postpone
to
a
future
finance
community,
okay,
okay,
I'm
sure
just
ask
a
question
in
terms
of
expectation
who
will
I
be
working
with
to
gather
the
board's
input,
or
should
I
be
reaching
out
directly
to
the
board?
How
would
you
like
to
proceed?
A
H
H
E
B
Is
why
I'm
here
asking
for
an
additional
extension
of
those
of
our
current
five-year
extension?
Excuse
me
of
our
current
year
contract
and
with
that
I'm
available.
A
H
B
A
A
B
B
Know
this
is
the
first
time
that
I
had
to
appear.
I'm
new
in
my
position.
I
just
was
appointed
in
april
and
so
suzanne
howier
has
been
a
great
benefit,
which
is
why
she's
appearing
here.
A
A
B
A
A
H
A
H
Yes,
it's
stacy
smith
from
the
health
division,
I'm
sitting
in
for
leanne
stafford
today
what
we
have
before
you
is
a
resolution
to
request
preliminary
acceptance
for
the
fiscal
year,
2022
local
health
department
agreement
grant
funding
from
the
michigan
department
of
health
and
human
services.
H
We
received
notification
and
in
order
to
meet
the
a
contract
execution
date
established
by
mdhhs,
which
is
october
1st,
we're
just
asking
that
you
approve
the
preliminary
acceptance
of
this
agreement.
This
agreement
is
for
funding
an
amount
of
11
million,
four
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
four
hundred
and
ten
dollars
for
the
period
of
october.
First
through
october,
first,
twenty
twenty
one
through
september,
thirtieth
of
twenty
twenty
two.
H
This
funding
supports
programs
such
as
the
women
infants
and
children's
the
wic
program,
nurse
family
partnership,
infant,
safe
sleep
and
other
essential
local
health
programs,
like
I
said,
they're,
expecting
us
to
execute
this
agreement
by
october
1st.
First.
In
order
to
reimburse
us
for
any
incurred
expenses,
we
did
receive
our
notification
for
the
application.
It
did
go
through
the
process
and
it
was
approved
by
the
board
of
commissioners
on
august
1st
or
I'm
sorry,
8th
august
5th,
and
that
resolution
number
was
2137317.
A
D
One
other
thing
to
add
there
is
that
this
is
just
a
preliminary
authorization
due
to
the
timing
of.
D
Come
back
to
you
when
mdhhs
does
give
us
that
final
approval,
which
I
believe
they
have
with
this
one,
it's
just
going
through
the
grant
review
process
right
now.
So,
probably
at
your
actual
next
round
of
finance
committees,
you
will
get
the
complete
package,
but
there
is
some
lapse
there
in
between
now
and
then
so.
Just
kind
of.
D
D
A
B
A
Thank
you
item
passes
unanimously
and
thanks
for
coming
today,
she
got
one
more
thing:
oh
and
you
have
one
more
yeah,
yes,
okay,
okay,
cl3.
H
So
the
second
item
is
similar
to
the
first.
This
grant
agreement
is
actually
for
the
fiscal
year,
2022
emerging
threats,
local
health
agreement.
It's
the
same
timeline.
It's
required
to
be
fully
executed
by
october.
First,
the
funding
amount
for
this.
One
is
nine
million
five
hundred
and
two
dollars
four
hundred
and
thirteen.
A
Question:
okay,
I'll
open
the
floor
to
the
commissioners.
Commissioner,
long!
Okay!
Thank
you
so,
on
the
previous.
B
Into
the
refunding
of
vaccines
and
whatever
else
it
says
there,
so
I
just
wonder
about
the
money
source
on
that.
Maybe
mike
knows-
or
it
just
seems
like
it's
repetitive-
from
the
10
million
from
the
for
resolution
that
was
previous
before
us.
That's
a
great
point
yeah.
I
just
wonder:
don't
do
you
know
mike
a
different
money?
What
I
can
probably
say
is
that
due
to
arpa
is
that
the
counties
did.
A
B
It
kind
of
looks
like
the
same
thing.
I'm
sure
that
we
would
probably
have
you
know
the
more
money
that
you.
A
Response
and
and
getting
it
out
into
the
community.
D
Is
is
the
best
maybe,
but
that's
for
you
guys.
B
A
D
B
D
B
B
A
A
So,
at
this
time
everybody
who's
who
needs
to
leave
a
closed
session.
That's
I
mean
I.
A
A
B
A
A
Supported
by
commissioner
powell,
all
right
is
there
any
other
discussion.
B
A
A
Honestly,
I
think
it
just
happened.
It
just
happened.
Okay,
I
didn't
know
we
were
switching
it
up,
but
it's
okay.
We
had.
We
had
public
comment
at
the
beginning
and
at
the
end
again
now.
A
B
B
B
I'm
a
little
concerned
with
the
tran
transformational
terminologies
that
keep
getting
thrown
around
because
I
it
it
does
seem
that
there's
an
awful
lot
of
constitutional
violations
going
on
throughout
the
country
and
oakland
county
is
no
exception.
Sadly,
so
I
really
am
very
concerned
about
a
lot
of
the
proposals
that
have
been
done
through
the
past
year
very
quickly,
with
very
little
input
from
the
people
just
having
everything
converted
to
a
new
system
in
the
middle
of
a
two-year
budget
hearing,
and
to
have
hearings
that
the
agenda
doesn't
even
tell
you
anything.
A
B
A
Seeing
no
one,
I
will
call
public
comment
closed.
Is
there
any
other
business
to
come
before
this
finance
committee?
I
will
just
take
30
seconds
to
say
how
grateful
I
am
that
all
of
the
members
of
the
finance
committee
and
the
staff
have
very
seriously
taken
this
budget
process.
That
has
happened
since
july
through
now
trying
to
get
the
budget
finished
by
the
end
of
september.
It's
ms
kennedy
is
correct.
A
There
is
tremendous
amount
of
reading
tremendous
amount
of
discussions
that
have
to
happen
at
all
levels
up
and
down,
and
it
is
hard
to
keep
it
straight
and
I
really
appreciate
how
seriously
everybody
took
it
and
how
how
far
we
came
so
quickly-
and
I
appreciate
everybody's
help
because
you
all
know
I'm.
This
is
my
first
year
and
I'm
learning
too.
So
thanks
everybody.
I
really
appreciate
it
and
if
nobody
has
anything
else,
they
want
to
add,
I
would
call
the
meeting
adjourned
at
1
42.