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A
Committee
of
the
board
of
commissioners
this
morning,
could
we
plea?
Oh
before
we
get
started,
I
just
want
to
remind
everybody.
If
you
want
to
talk,
you
have
to
turn
on
your
mic
and
thank
you
for
being
here
in
the
auditorium.
Instead
of
the
other
room,
I
guess
there
was
a
conflict,
and
with
that,
could
we
please
have
a
roll
call
cabell.
B
Nope,
charles.
E
E
B
A
A
Okay,
next
up,
I
need
a
motion
to
approve
the
agenda.
Commissioner
cavell
supported
by
commissioner
long,
all
in
favor,
say
aye,
aye,
aye
opposed,
say,
nay,
okay,
the
agenda
is
approved.
Next,
we
have
public
comment.
Is
there
anyone
here
that
from
the
public
that
would
like
to
address
the
finance
committee
this
morning?
A
I
will
just
say
I'm
glad
to
have
those
comments,
they're
pretty
comprehensive
about
what
was
needed
in
the
prosecutor's
office
and
it
shows
us
why
we
are
having
to
add
additional
dollars
this
year
to
the
budget.
So
I
really
appreciated
that
comprehensive
list
of
of
needs.
So
all
in
favor
of
receiving
and
filing
the
communications
say,
aye
aye
opposed,
say,
nay,
communications
have
been
received
and
filed,
we'll
move
on
to
our
regular
agenda.
A
We
have
nothing
there,
but
we
do
have
other
business
starting
our
budget
hearings
for
today
and
first
up
we
have
the
economic
development
department
and,
if
you're,
following
along
in
your
books
in
the
categorical
book,
it's
page
79
and
in
the
budget
book,
it's
page
269.
F
Morning,
everyone
I
gotta,
adjust
this
for
my
almost
six
foot
high
here
morning,
I'm
ingrid
thai,
I'm
the
director
of
economic
development.
It's
good
to
see
everyone
this
morning.
Thank
you
for
having
us
I'm
going
to
do
a
quick
overview
of
our
department
and
our
budget,
and
then
I'm
going
to
go
into
then
some
high
level
talking
points
and
then
take
any
questions
afterwards.
F
So,
as
you
are
well
aware,
economic
development
went
through
a
slight
reorganization
in
the
last
year,
so
just
to
make
sure
everyone
remembers
and
is
clear
on
the
new
organization.
Economic
development
is
now
just
economic
development
no
longer
and
see
the
ca
part
the
community
fairs,
so
we're
just
referred
to
as
ed,
and
we
have
four
divisions
under
us.
F
One
division
is
business
development.
The
second
division
is
community
development.
The
third
division
that
we
have
is
workforce
development
and
new.
This
year
is
the
fourth
division
garth
and
his
team
veterans
affairs,
so
that
was
put
under
our
purview.
We
are
a
little
unique
in
that
our
budget.
When
you
look
at
it,
the
economic
development
portion
that
you
see
under
this
one
is
covering
the
two
first
divisions.
I
mentioned
business
development
and
community
development.
F
The
third
one
workforce
development
still
has
their
own
separate
budget,
and
we
will
talk
about
that
today.
But
I
do
want
to
highlight
that,
because
of
the
fact
that
workforce
development
has
is
all
funded
through
federal
and
state
grants
and
funding
and
to
keep
it
quote,
unquote
clean.
If
you
will,
we
have
kept
that
budget
separate
and
intact
for
those
reasons,
and
then
with
veterans
services.
That
is
also
separate
too.
They
get
a
lot
of
state
funding
and
other
sources,
so
we
made
a
decision
to
keep
that
as
a
separate.
F
Today
we
do
have
four
leaders,
so
we
are
in
the
process
of
hiring
for
the
manager
of
the
business
development
division
as
we
speak,
brett
raskin,
as
you
all
well
know,
is
our
leader
of
the
community
development
section
and
he
actually
just
celebrated
35
years
with
the
county,
so
that's
very
exciting
and
then
jennifer
llewellyn,
our
rock
star
in
workforce
development
and
then
garth
wooten,
who
leads
our
veterans
services.
Unfortunately,
jennifer
could
not
be
here
today
when
we
change
the
times
so
I'll
just
be
speaking
on
her
behalf.
F
Okay,
so
just
overall,
when
you
look
at
those
four
divisions
combined,
we
have
76
people
that
are
in
our
department
and
when
we
went
through
the
process
with
budget
this
year,
we
had
three
people
that
actually
took
the
vsip,
then
of
those
those
people.
F
So
we
deleted
20
positions
in
the
business
development
section.
That
was
a
significant
that
ranged
from
everything
we
had
someone
dan
hunter
who
took
the
v-sip.
He
was
the
deputy
director
and
with
the
reorganization,
the
deputy
director
position
was
eliminated
and
now
we
just
have
four
division
leaders,
and
then
that
goes
all
the
way
down
to.
We
had
a
handful
of
interns
and
some
part-time
people
on
the
books.
F
We
did,
however,
add
four
positions,
so
we
added
someone
under
the
oakland
80
administrator
position.
We
added
the
international
and
national
attraction
manager.
We
actually
formalized
that
section
and
then
we
also
added
this.
Like
I
mentioned
this
manager
business
development.
We
didn't
have
that
before.
So
we
did
add
a
leadership
role.
However,
when
you
do
that
we
still
had
a
cost
savings
when
you
do
the
math
of
over
300
000
and
we
achieved
a
5
budget
reduction.
So
we
were
a
little
over
the
4
goal
that
we
were
given.
F
So,
with
business
and
community
development,
the
budget
that
you're
looking
at,
if
you
look
at
the
budget,
you'll
see
that
over
70
percent
of
our
budget
is
salaries
and
fringe
benefits.
It
goes
towards
the
pers.
The
personnel,
business,
development
and
community
development
are
primarily
service,
oriented
missions.
So
when
you
look
at
that,
then
the
other
30
percent
goes
to
support
our
operations.
F
Significant.
The
programs
and
initiatives
that
are
funded
through
our
budget
is.
We
are
responsible
for
working
with
the
40
000
companies
that
are
in
oakland
county
and
working
on
their
retention,
so
that
involves
our
crew
going
out
meeting
with
these
companies
talking
to
them
about
how
their
businesses
are
doing,
identifying
their
needs
and
connecting
them
to
resources
such
as
access
to
capital,
access
to
business
services
and
other
programs
to
help
them
with
their
expansion.
F
F
So
we,
if
we
were
a
state
if-
and
this
is
a
good
little
talking
point
when
you
go
out
in
the
community
if
oakland
county-
were
a
state
we'd
rank
35th
amongst
other
states
in
terms
of
our
gdp.
So
it's
worthy
to
note
that
you
know
if
oakland
county
catches,
a
sniffle
michigan
catches
a
cold
in
terms
of
its
economy.
So
that's
why
the
the
mission
of
helping
our
businesses
is
so
vital.
F
F
F
We
also
have
a
membership
to
the
detroit
regional
partnership,
which
is
a
vital
stakeholder
to
also
getting
new
businesses
and
expansion
into
the
region,
medc
and
others,
and
then
we
also
have
subscriptions
to
a
lot
of
various
data
services
which
cost
money
so
getting
things
like
esri
and
mz,
and
all
these
various
sources
that
give
us
the
information
to
keep
our
finger
on
the
pulse
on
how
the
county
is
doing
in
community
development
development.
The
major
significant
line
items
touch
on
things
like
our
no
has.
F
We
do
four
of
those
events
where
we
help
collect
those
recycling
items
that
are
hard
to
recycle
in
your
household
goods
and
also
we
support
the
national
main
street
program.
The
national
main
street
supports
25
members
that
helps
with
the
revitalization
and
the
sustainment
of
our
our
downtown
communities.
F
So
that's
all
I
have
for
those
two
divisions.
The
third
division
I
want
to
highlight
is
workforce
development
under
jennifer
llewellyn,
so
the
workforce
development
falls
under
the
county.
We
have
16
different
workforce
development
groups
around
the
state.
Oakland
county
is
the
only
one
that
still
keeps
it
under
the
county
umbrella.
F
We
have
a
16.8
million
annual
budget
again,
that
is
all
federal
and
state
grants
and
funding.
We
are
the
third
largest
in
the
state
we
have
helped.
In
the
past
year,
150
000
job
seekers.
We
have
supported
3,
000
businesses
unique
to
this
year
and
covid
was
we
got
involved
with
helping
with
unemployment?
Normally,
that's
not
part
of
the
michigan
works
mission,
but
we
did
step
up
to
the
plate
when
unemployment
agency
was
stretched,
then-
and
we
fielded
almost
750
000
unemployment
calls
to
help
our
residents.
F
There
is
only
one
position
out
of
all
the
positions
in
workforce
development
that
are
funded
through
the
county,
and
that
is
the
oakland
80
administrator
position.
That
position
has
not
been
filled
yet
they
are
actually
conducting
interviews
as
we
speak,
and
that's
why
jennifer
is
not
here.
She's
part
of
that
panel,
the
remaining
positions
are
grant
funded.
F
So,
just
to
also
highlight
the
mission
of
the
job
centers
and
what
this
funding
goes
to.
There
are
47
different
grant
programs
and
they
all
go
to
the
overall
mission
of
supporting
the
six
michigan
works
offices.
They
help
provide
apprenticeship,
programs,
incumbent
worker
training,
job
fairs,
career
services
and
more
and
with
that
I'll
hand
it
over
to
garth
woon,
to
highlight
his
key
talking
points
for
veterans.
G
Thank
you.
Ingrid.
The
veterans
services
division
continues
to
provide
assistance
to
veterans
in
their
dependence,
oakland
county.
Our
role
is
really
to
try
and
make
sure
that
they
receive
the
federal
state
and
certain
county
benefits
to
which
they're
entitled
during
fiscal
year
21
we
had
one
employee,
take
the
visip
retirement.
G
G
The
majority
of
our
focus
is
on
claims
assistant
again,
so
that
veterans
can
res
and
their
dependents
can
receive
the
benefits
to
which
they're
entitled
during
fiscal
year,
20,
which
is
the
last
year
that
va
provided
us
with
information,
va
expenditures
for
oakland,
county
veterans
and
their
dependents
were
374
million
741
thousand
dollars.
G
This
includes
241
million
32
000
in
direct
monetary
benefits,
those
are
checks
being
cut
to
veterans
and
their
dependents
in
oakland
county
that
are
then
being
spent
in
the
county
to
help
our
economy.
In
addition,
there
was
a
va
expended
about
133
million
dollars
in
medical
care
for
oakland,
county
veterans
and
their
dependents.
G
G
In
addition,
during
the
pandemic,
we
process
claims
for
approved
and
paid
approximately
1
million
dollars
in
emergency
assistance
to
veterans
and
their
dependents.
Who've
been
impacted
by
coven
19.
We
did
that
utilizing,
cares
funds
and
cares,
act,
funds
and
mbaa
grant
funding
we're
continuing
to
serve
our
veterans,
utilizing
technology
as
much
as
possible
while
being
sensitive
to
the
fact
that
not
all
of
our
potential
clients
have
access
to
technology
as
conditions
improve
we're,
seeing
more
clients
in
person,
while
still
utilizing
safe
practices
to
protect
the
health
of
our
staff
and
veterans.
G
We
look
forward
to
fiscal
year
22
and
the
opportunity
to
return
to
and
expand
our
outreach
locations.
We've
started
to
go
back
to
holly
and
farmington
hills
and,
although
the
last
week
or
two
has
not
been
good,
we're
looking
forward
to
being
able
to
do
that
going
forward,
we
also
have
some
grant
funding
that
we
anticipate
receiving
from
the
state
of
michigan,
which
will
allow
us
to
provide
transportation
options,
marketing
and
housing
assistance.
A
Thank
you.
I
do
want
to
mention
that
I
appreciate
everybody
want
accommodating
the
time
change.
That's
the
commissioners
as
well
as
the
groups
coming
to
speak
to
us.
It
just
facilitated
getting
more
done
in
the
day
and
not
waiting
until
the
end
of
the
day
to
go
through
this.
So
I
appreciate
that
commissioners
I'll
open
it
up
to
you
for
any
questions
or
comments.
H
Thank
you
chair.
I
have
two
questions
and
forgive
me
ingrid
because
I
emailed
sean
about
this,
but
that
did
not
include
you.
I
thought
he
would
be
here
so
excuse.
I
Me
if
you
could
speak
into
the
microphone,
I
could
hear
what
you
what
you're
gonna
say.
Is
this
better.
H
So
forgive
me
if
this
is
kind
of
a
jump
jump.
If
this
question
jumps
you
ingrid,
but
I
and
I
believe
other
commissioners
have
received
communications
from
folks
in
the
economic
development
department,
about
morale
or
a
concern
related
to
that
or
people
feeling,
perhaps
unheard.
So
I
was
wondering
if
you
had
any
perspective
on
that.
F
H
F
So
the
oakland
80
administrator
will
oversee
navigators
and
the
goal
is
then
to
go
out
into
these
various
communities
around
the
county
and
help
connect
people
to
the
different
resources
and
programs:
apprenticeships,
training,
upskilling
incumbent
worker
programs,
all
that
all
with
the
goal
in
mind
of
getting
80
of
that
population
with
a
an
industry
recognized
credential
or
degree.
F
E
I
was
nice
and
audible
too,
but
I
will
speak
right
into
the
mic.
My
first
question
was
simply
regarding
the
part
where
it
talks
about
the
2022
expenditures
and
in
that
second
bullet
that
I'm
looking
at
it
talks
about
contractual
services
decreased.
Then
it
kind
of
goes
on
to
detail
other
projects
based
on
miscellaneous
resolutions.
E
F
The
oak
stem
program
is
actually
not
a
movement
of
money.
It
was,
if
you
recall
it
was
50
000
from
the
the
drain
commission
group.
It
was
a
50
000
from
the
board
of
commissioner
and
then
an
additional
hundred
thousand
so
and
that's
a
one-time
project
to
help
with
that
tree
planting
project
in
the
communities.
F
E
I
guess
the
paragraph
starts
by
saying
contractual
services
decreased.
This
is
primarily
due
to
and
then
again
you
know
it
just
it's
like
a
super
run-on
sentence
of
semicolons
and
I
just
was
wondering
if
oaxton
was
a
neg,
was
a
hardship
impact,
but
it
sounds
like
we
budgeted
just
fine
for
it.
Yeah
and
you're,
just
accounting
for
those
dollars
under
2022.
E
F
No,
so
so
the
business
and
community
development
divisions
are
funded
through
general
fund,
then
workforce
development
division
is
all
federal
and
state
funding
and
then
veteran
services.
The
fourth
division
is
mostly
gf,
but
some
state
funding.
E
How
have
you
guys
been
able
to
utilize
remote
work,
remote
staff,
folks
working
remotely?
How
has
that
worked
and
have
you
seen
any
benefits
or
disadvantages
so.
F
We,
when
we
were
allowed
to
come
back
in
the
office,
we
went
to
a
60
manning
and
every
division
is
very
unique,
obviously
in
its
mission,
so
with
garth,
specifically
there
they
take
people
mostly
in
the
office.
However,
we
have
also
talked
about
also
deploying
him
in
his
group,
so
they're
they're
more
in
person,
but
they
can
also
do
some
online
stuff
with
business
development
working
with
companies
right
now
we're
in
the
office,
because
it's
been
a
lot
of
planning
adjusting
to
our
strategic
plan
getting
some
new
operations
in
place.
F
What's
going
on
in
a
company
over
a
zoom,
I
mean
you
really
need
to
be
visiting
a
manufacturing
floor
and
seeing
their
cnc
operations
seeing
how
the
the
floor
is
laid
out.
You
know
even
seeing
things
like
disarray
in
a
parking
lot
and
excess
equipment
and
dumping,
and
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
you
can
get
from
a
in-person
visit.
So
our
guidance
has
been
that
if
a
company
allows
for
visitors
to
come
in
person,
then
go
ahead
and
do
so
obviously
keeping
our
protocols
in
place.
F
But
if
a
company
is
not
comfortable
with
outside
visitors,
then
you
know
we'll
have
to
just
meet
with
them
online.
So
we
recognize
that
this
is
a
fluid
environment
and
I
would
say
that,
based
on
that
model,
our
people
are
probably
going
out
50
to
companies
in
person
and
doing
the
other
half
online,
and
we've
also
adjusted
our
metrics
to
account
for
that
too,
because
we
recognize
this
is
just
unprecedented
times.
So
then
again
also
with
community
development,
they're
they're
working
more
with
the
cvts.
F
So
again,
if
a
cvt
allows
for
them
to
go
to
city
hall
or
go
on
site,
we
encourage
them
to
do
so.
Then,
when,
when
appropriate,
to
do
online,
so
it's
really
been
department
and
division.
I
should
say
not
different,
but
division
dependent
upon
how
often
they
they
they
get
online
versus
going
in
person
and
we've
been
talking
to
our
leaders
about
using
judgment.
Good
judgment
about
you
know
what
makes
sense.
E
Just
to
make
sure
also
with
the
veterans
services
you
know,
have
you
been
utilizing
remote
to
help
out
and
how
how's
that
going
with
our
with
the
veterans.
G
Yeah
we
we
quickly,
luckily,
we've
been
able
to
get
internet-based
claims
management
system
and
the
va
has
moved
to
an
online
system
that
I
can
access
with
my
piv
card
on
any
computer
with
a
pivot
card
reader,
so
that
I
can
check
on
claim
status.
Do
things
like
that,
so
we
we
moved
quickly
to
doing
things
via
phone
online
email,
fax,
even
and
we,
but
we
also
again
recognize
that
not
everybody
has
access
to
technology.
G
G
One
of
the
things
that
we
strongly
believe
in
is
that
the
best
way
to
establish
a
relationship
with
our
clients
is
that
face-to-face
meetings,
so
we're
really
looking
forward
to
to
getting
back
to
that
model.
We've
been
working
by
appointment,
limiting
people,
the
number
of
people
in
the
office
and
things
like
that,
but
we've
continued
to
be
able
to
provide
a
level
of
service
that
I'm
comfortable
with
to
our
veterans
throughout
the
pandemic.
I
Thank
you
very
much
and
it's
good
to
see
you
miss
miss
tai.
It's
definitely
definitely
the
county's
game.
To
get
you.
I
appreciate.
Thank
you.
If
you
had
your
mask
off,
I
could
see
you
probably
see
a
smile,
I'm
smiling.
I
promise
you.
Yes,
no
really.
It's
a
very
good
briefing.
I'm
intrigued
by
the
commissioner,
charles
actually
asked
the
question
that
I
was
going
to
ask
and
both
you
and
gentlemen
there's
a
permanent
structural
change
in
the
way
that
your
office
operates
due
to
remote
working.
I
B
I
F
That's
something
we're
actually
evaluating,
so
the
executive
team
did
a
presentation,
along
with
facilities
about
what
the
future
of
remote
work
was,
is
going
to
look
like
for
the
entire
county,
and
so
as
part
of
that
exercise,
we're
actually
going
through
right
now,
looking
at
our
footprint
trying
to
figure
out
how
the
floor
should
be
laid
out
how
much
space
we
need
things
like
that.
So
that's
a
very
good
question
that
we're
trying
to
figure
out
the
answer
to
right
now.
I
But
you
you
can't
assume
that
it
would
be
less.
I
mean
I
would
just
and
the
reason
why
I'm
getting
it
that
what
I'm
getting
at
is
not
your
department
but
merely
your
department.
In
fact,
the
entire
county
executive's
department
writ
large
because
office
office,
space
and
office
office
buildings
is
a
tremendous
component
of
oakland
county's
commercial,
commercial,
real
estate.
I
mean
I
drive
up
here.
I
It's
nothing
but
office
and
office,
as
you
know,
because
you're
in
birmingham
when
the
department
stores
went
down
and
the
2016
plan
came
in
essentially
office,
jumped
in
to
step
into
that
economic,
environmental
niche
right.
So,
but
if
everybody
in
every
organization
is
going
to
be
using
less
of
a
footprint
is
going
to
be
doing
more
remote
work,
that's
got
to
affect
economic
development
and
certainly
office,
certainly
capacity
of
office
in
the
county.
F
No
yeah,
no,
I
mean
it's
something
we're
seeing
internally,
I
think
both
as
a
department
as
a
as
a
county
and
then
also
like
you
said
with
all
of
our
constituents,
especially
when
we
meet
with
offices.
So
I
think
what
we're
seeing
more
of
is
probably
the
knee
well
and
here's
again,
it's
the
division
specific.
So
you
know
with
someone
like
garf
and
his
group.
F
They
need
the
privacy
and
they
still
need
that
one-on-one
opportunity
with
with
veterans
who
come
in
with
business
development,
whether
you're
meeting
them
in
person
or,
if
you're,
meeting
on
zoom.
You
still
need
that
quiet
space
that
cube
or
something
to
help
muffle
the
conversations
and
have
a
professional
meeting.
So
you
know
it's
right
now,
we're
just
really
trying
to
figure
out
what
is
that
right
formula,
and
what
does
that
layout
look
like
and
then
to
your
point?
You
know,
learning
to
figure
out.
How
do
we
stagger
staff?
F
You
know
some
can
come
in
someday
some
coming
to
other,
but
we
do
still
need
that
collaborative
space
and
what
we
are
experiencing
is
a
shortage
ever
since
a
shortage,
but
we
are
saying
that
we
definitely
have
to
deconflict
the
use
of
conference
rooms
around
the
county,
because
you
know
we
are
doing
more
of
that.
So
I
think
it
can
be
organized
if
it's
planned
and
well
thought
out,
but
it's
going
to
take
a
little
time
to
work
through
some
of
those
things.
I
One
of
the
foundations
of
the
economic
picture
in
the
county
is
office
and,
as
we
all
know,
in
birmingham,
when
you
wake
up
one
day
and
find
the
core
of
your
of
your
downtown
is
gone
because
we're
not
you
know
having
department
stores
anymore.
What
happens
if
office
buildings
follow
that
same
way
or
at
least
decrease
the
amount
of
space
and
market
share.
F
I
don't
remember
the
exact
title
and
the
number
right
now,
but
it's
to
that
point
that
communities
are
starting
to
look
at
and
get
creative
with,
maybe
the
rezoning
or
the
use
of
office
buildings
so
where
you
have
the
first
floor
service
retail
restaurant
before
a
lot
of
places
have
you
know
a
couple
floors
of
office
and
a
couple
floors
of
residential
so
now
they're,
looking
at
maybe
repurposing
some
of
those
office
floors
to
additional
residential
and
increasing
downtown
density.
F
I
Mixed
use,
team
mark
nikita
will
be
happy
yeah
all
right.
Well,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
I'm
just
simply
raising,
because
if
this
is,
if
this
might
be
the
future,
we
don't
want
it
to
hit
us
like
a
freight
train.
Yes,
hello,.
G
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
speak
briefly
just
we
are
essentially
working
four
days
in
the
office
one
day
from
home,
and
we
what
our
staff
is
finding
is
it's
they
enjoy.
That
aspect
of
the
work
and
and
one
of
the
challenges
we've
had
over
the
years
is
attracting
and
maintaining
employees,
and-
and
you
know,
if
we
can
offer
them
that
one
day
work
from
home
per
week-
it's
it's
very
attractive
to
them
and
they
find
that
they're
able
to
get
a
lot
of
stuff
done
because
there's
fewer
distractions
at
home.
G
I
That
how
what
does
that
make
for
demand
there
we
go.
That's
the
word
demand.
I
said
the
secret
word:
the
demand
for
office
space
in
a
county
where
office
space
is
a
very,
very
heavy
component
of
our
of
our
economy.
All
right.
Thank
you.
Madam
you're
welcome,
madam
chair.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Colwall.
C
C
At
some
point
over
the
last
year,
the
one
stop
shop
came
to
a
stop
and
I
know
that
it
is
apparently
being
looked
at
and
perhaps
redeveloped,
and
I
think
that
maybe
is
a
tool
that
we'd
like
to
keep
in
our
economic
development
toolbox.
So
where
are
we
at
with.
F
That
so
we
actually
already
transitioned
several
months
ago
to
working
more
closely
with
the
small
business
development
center,
in
fact
actually
they're.
Coming
today
to
present
we
have
a
community
meeting
with
all
of
our
economic
development
directors
so
over
at
the
farmers
market
pavilion,
and
so
what
we
are
doing
is
triaging
those
services.
F
So
if
it's
a
startup
entrepreneur
for
basic
business
skills,
we
have
a
partnership
with
sbdc
they
evaluate,
and
then
they
work
with
those
companies
so
and
then,
if
they're
more
advanced
or
there
are
issues
that
really
more
pertain
to
our
department,
such
as
connecting
them
with
say,
with
sbea
504
loan
help
with
some
of
the
things
that
we're
working
on
with
defense
and
aerospace,
mobility
such
as
that,
then
then
we
bring
them
back
into
the
fold.
F
Well,
we're
doing
a
number
of
things.
So
sbdc
is
a
major
part
of
addressing
the
small
business.
Help
also
is
working
with
procurement,
tactical
technical
assistance,
centers
ptax,
that's
more
for
the
defense
and
the
federal
contracting
space
and
then
michigan
manufacturing
technical
center.
That's
they're
very
focused
on
manufacturing
and
do
a
great
job.
So
we
also
refer
and
work
closely
with
those
other
organizations.
F
Then,
in
addition
to
that,
we're
in
the
process
of
working
on
this
business
navigator
program
that
was
just
approved
at
three
million
dollars
and
the
vision
for
that
is
that
we'll
have
several
so
we'll
have.
If
you
want
to
look
at
it's
like
we'll,
be
the
hub,
we'll
have
a
director
of
a
team
of
navigators
that
will
be
here
and
then
those
navigators
will
be
out
in
several
of
our
communities
and
they'll
offer
small
business
resources.
F
We
were
able
to
basically
get
a
good
idea
of
what
works.
We
did
that
local
business
connect
last
month
where
we
went
into
seven
communities
all
around
the
county
and
we
brought
our
small
business
development
center
and
other
partners,
and
we
did
basic
business
classes,
financial
acumen,
marketing
business
plan.
F
The
one
that
was
the
most
popular
was:
how
do
you
advertise
and
promote
your
business
on
google
and
on
on
the
web
and
on
social
media,
so
we're
working
with
those
and
then
the
goal
is
to
continue
to
get
those
services
out
into
the
communities
through
those
navigator
programs
and
then
also
bring
contractors
or
part-time
people
who
will
who
are
say
specific
to
the
I.t
subjects
specifically
and
bring
them
out
and
actually
on
a
regular
basis
and
meet
with
our
businesses.
So
it's
a
multi-faceted
approach
to
working
with
the
small
businesses.
F
F
Small
business
owners
are
so
busy
just
trying
to
keep
their
lights
on
and
staff
their
business
that
even
coming
to
waterford,
was
difficult
for
them
to
make
that
time
out
of
their
day.
So
one
of
the
approaches
to
this
multi-faceted
program
is
making
sure
we
are
out
in
the
communities
and
meeting
them
where
they
are
and
being
more
accessible
and
more
convenient
so
that
we
can
get
those
services
to
them.
A
F
F
I
spoke
with
actually
one
restaurant
owner
just
recently,
who
said
he
had
two
chefs
that
are
married
to
each
other
and
one
decided
to
stay
another
stay
home
because
of
the
school
schedule
constantly
going
from
online
to
in
person
in
the
change.
So
that's
been
a
huge
issue
and
then
some
speculate
also,
whether
or
not
the
unemployment
is
affecting
some
people
or
not.
So
I
think
there's
various
there
there's
a
lot
of
different
reasons.
F
I
think
it's
gonna
start
to
shake
out
here
over
the
next
six
to
twelve
months,
as
we
see
changes
in
unemployment,
as
we
see
there's
supposed
to
be
a
child
care
grant
that
is
coming
out
to
where
we
can
help
our
our
child
care
centers,
hopefully
get
more
up
and
running,
and
and
also
we're
seeing
schools
majority
of
schools
in
person-
and
it
looks
like
there's
going
to
you
know.
Fingers
crossed
hopefully
be
more
reliability
with
schools
being
open
and
and
offering
their
services.
F
A
Okay,
thank
you.
I
know
my
husband
would
like
to
see
the
wendy's
on
novi
road
open
up,
but
they
haven't
found
enough
employees
yet
so
yeah
all
right.
Well,
we
appreciate
that
you
came
here
and
gave
us
such
a
thorough
presentation
and
really
insightful.
I'm
happy
to
see
that
we're
changing
and
adapting
to
what
the
needs
are
in
the
community.
A
I
mean
I,
I
would
have
another
question
about
workforce
development,
but
since
jennifer's
not
here
and
she-
and
I
can
talk
offline
about
it-
just
say
that
I
have
I'm
close
to
somebody
who
has
recently
walked
their
way
through
the.
How
do
I
get
unemployment
have
that
come
in?
How
do
I
write
a
good
resume?
A
A
A
I
will
say
I
got
a
message
from
commissioner
powell
that
says
she
is
online
and
once
she
hits
the
road
she
will
transfer
to
call
in
so
she's
listening
but
you'll
hear
from
her
okay
all
right
good
morning.
J
Good
to
go
good
morning,
chair
markham
and
commissioners
good
to
good
to
see
you
all
appreciate
you
having
us
here
today
and
I'm
joined
by
jody
weiss
of
the
foe,
our
chief
deputy
in
the
office
and
I'll
speak
briefly
and
cover
some
of
the
highlights
of
our
budget
and
then
obviously
want
to
leave
time
for
questions
we're
presenting.
J
Obviously,
the
fiscal
year's
22
to
24
budget
and
this
general
fund
continuation
budget
of
8.6
million
provides
the
necessary
resources
for
our
office
to
deliver
statutorily
required
services
and-
and
we
truly
believe
that
our
residents
deserve
access
to
the
highest
quality
of
service
from
our
team.
So
I'm
going
to
cover
a
few
of
our
duties
within
the
office,
a
collection
of
delinquent,
real
and
personal
property
taxes
on
behalf
of
all
the
63
cities,
villages
and
townships
here
in
the
county
receiving
and
disbursing
county
funds
to
meet
the
county's
cash
flow
requirements.
J
Excuse
me,
with
funding
recently
approved
by
this
committee
here,
we're
looking
forward
to
implementing
a
strategic
planning
process
to
identify
opportunities
that
will
enhance
our
services,
streamline,
streamline
our
processes,
strengthen
our
service
delivery
and
improve
our
outreach
in
the
community
with
the
uncertainty
of
both
the
pandemic
and
social
safety
nets.
We
continue
to
monitor
delinquent
tax
collection
rates.
J
There
was
a
slight
increase
of
1.5
percent
and
delinquent
taxes
turned
over
to
our
office
this
year
and
last
year
we
saw
a
two
percent
decrease
in
our
collections
with
the
economic
uncertainty,
delinquent
taxes
being
turned
over
to
our
office
may
increase
in
the
future,
and
we
are
we're
often
we
always
say
we're
a
lagging
economic
indicator.
So
we're
going
to
continue
to
monitor
that.
J
As
we
know,
property
foreclosure
disrupts
the
financial
well-being
of
our
residents,
our
business
owners,
and
especially
our
neighborhoods
we've
completed
settlement
and
distribution
to
help
cash
flow,
local
communities,
and
we
continue
to
administer
the
delinquent
tax
collection
process
which
funds
the
dtrf,
which
I'm
sure
you're
all
familiar
with.
A
few
additional
highlights.
I
want
to
cover
in
december
2020,
which
was
my
last
month
in
the
legislature.
J
J
In
collaboration
with,
I
see
our
water
resource
commissioner,
here
in
collaboration
with
wrc,
we
competitively
bid
and
have
implemented
pay
near
me.
This
service
enables
customers
to
pay
their
delinquent
tax
bill
at
local
retailers,
such
as
cvs,
711,
family
dollar.
We
anticipate
walmart
will
be
online
as
well,
and
so
this
is
a
convenience
for
people
who
live
in
different
parts
of
the
county,
so
they
might
not
necessarily
have
to
come
here
to
pontiac
to
pay
their
their
bill
and
a
couple
other
things
that
I
will
mention.
J
Actually
one
other
thing,
because
I
know
the
question
came
up
as
far
as
what
we've
done
in
our
office,
we
dissolved
two
positions
in
our
office:
one
was
a
financial
services
technician
and
one
an
accounting
specialist
from
the
delinquent
tax
team,
and
that
was
approximately
a
four
percent
savings.
J
We
were
requested
to
cut
about
142
000
and
we
we
cut
146
000..
We
had
five
individuals
out
of
our
42
team
members
that
took
the
v-sip
two
were
supervisors
that
we
have
extended
out
into
the
future
fiscal
years.
That
will
also
need
to
be
replaced,
and
then
I
think
the
question
came
up.
Commissioner,
charles
asked
about
remote
work
and
obviously,
we've
been
pretty
fluid.
Obviously
it
was
different.
J
Last
year,
as
we
were
trying
to
figure
things
out,
our
team,
I
would
say,
is:
is
there
there
are
many
team
members
who
are
there
every
day,
there's
some
people
who
had
to
be
there
all
the
time
at
the
very
beginning.
We
were
staggering.
J
We
didn't
want
our
whole
office
to
go
out
if
there
was
some
kind
of
outbreak,
so
we
would
have
one
team
there
one
week,
another
team,
the
next
week
and
rotate
and
the
others
would
work
from
home,
and
then
another
team
was
monday,
wednesday,
friday
and
then
tuesday,
thursday
and
then
rotate
the
following
week
and
so
right
now.
J
What
we're
seeing
is
most
of
our
office
is
there
in
person,
but
there
is
some
flexibility
as
long
as
they're
getting
their
work
done
at
home,
usually
one
or
two
days,
just
personally,
I'm
not
someone
who
is
looking
over
everyone's
shoulder
as
long
as
they
are
getting
their
work
done.
J
That's
the
most
important
thing,
so
that's
kind
of
the
the
setup
and
and
obviously
that's
going
to
be,
as
I
said,
fluid
moving
forward,
we're
going
to
figure
out
what's
best
and
I
think
it's
also
important,
as
I
think
they
left
already,
but
retaining
talent.
We
want
the
best
people
working
here
for
the
county
and
I
think
that's
something
that
is
really
important
to
a
lot
of
people
in
the
workforce,
so
that
are
looking
for
work.
So
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
add
anything.
J
J
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I
hope
you're
not
still
drinking
from
a
fire
hose,
mr
treasurer,
so
we
know
how
that's
what
that's
like
so
sure,
I'm
just
having
a
little
bit
of
trouble
following
this.
You
know
under
the
2022
revenues
the
charges
for
services,
net
decrease
of
million
251,
primarily
attributed
payments
other
than
anticipated
it
all
balances
out
at
the
bottom.
But
I
don't
see
where
that
decrease
is
reflected
in
that
actual
line.
D
Are
you
asking
exactly
what
it
is
or
where
I
mean
it
drops
from
1.2
to
200
000?
That's,
basically,
the
excess
proceeds
from
the
surplus
of
land
sale
that
after
the
rafaeli
decision,
we
only
get
to
keep
five
percent
now
and
the
rest
is
eligible
to
return
to
former
owners
and
interested
claimants.
Okay,
thank.
C
D
J
H
H
Right
so
two
questions
first
you're
kind
of
prognosticating
a
little
bit.
It
sounds
like
the
federal
reserve
chairman
right
where
you're
kind
of
steadily
saying
stuff
in
economic
speak.
Would
you
mind
sharing
what
you
think
will
happen
in
this
fiscal
year
about
tax
foreclosures?
If
they'll
go
up
if
they'll
go
down
and
then
second
on
our
little
cheat
sheets,
that
the
staff
give
us,
it
mentions
a
land
bank.
Do
you
care
to
share
any
perspective
there.
J
So
a
couple
yeah
sure
thanks
for
that
question,
commissioner,
so
we
we
had
a
moratorium
on
foreclosures
for
2020
and
2021.
Obviously,
as
I'm
new
to
the
office,
we
are
going
to
kind
of
reevaluate
and
kind
of
look
at
how
things
moving
forward.
What
things
are
going
to
look
like
moving
forward.
J
We
are
like
we
said,
we're
going
to
continue
monitoring
the
collection
rates,
because
how
it
works
is-
and
I'm
sure
you
know
this-
but
people
at
home
if
they're,
watching
right,
if
you,
if
you're,
paying
your
taxes,
your
property
taxes
on
time,
they're
sent
to
your
local
community
once
they
are
delinquent,
they're
passed
over
to
us
and
then
it's
for
us
to
then
collect,
and
so
we
are
really
monitoring
closely
and
that's
those
numbers
that
I
used
here.
J
Our
collection
right,
the
turn
what
was
turned
over
was
only
about
one
point:
five
percent:
our
collection
rate
was
only
down
two
percent
and
it's
roughly
a
three
year
process
for
when
the
foreclosure
could
happen,
and
so
we
have
been
really
really
adamant
about
trying
to
set
people
up
on
payment
plans.
Repayment
plans.
We
should
call
them
because
it's
really
important
for
us,
as
I
said,
foreclosure,
should
be
the
last
case
scenario.
J
We
don't
want
to
foreclose
on
anyone,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
we're
keeping
people
in
their
homes,
and
so
that's
something
we're
going
to
be
monitoring
closely
again.
We
don't
know
one
of
the
things
you
know.
There's
social
safety
nets
that
are
in
place.
We
don't
know
how
long
those
are
going
to
be
there,
and
so
it's
important
for
us
to
just
kind
of
really
keep
close
eye
on
what's
going
on.
D
And
then
just
one
final
thing
I
mean
we
have
until
anybody
with
delinquent
texas
has,
until
march
31st
to
pay
their
delinquent
taxes
in
full
to
redeem
their
property.
So
that's
one
reason
that
we
don't
have
any
indication
at
this
time,
because
you
know
again
if
this
robert
said
the
social
safety
nets
that
are
in
place
could
continue
to
allow
people
to
you
know,
have
enough
funds
to
pay
those
taxes
off
by
march
31st
and
then
they'd
no
longer
be
subject
to
foreclosure.
J
And
along
those
lines,
there's
there
was
a
program
here
at
the
state
called
step
forward
that
actually
I
should
maybe
the
word
is
dissolved.
It
was
no
longer
in
existence
as
of
2020,
but
they're,
actually
looking
through
mishta
they're
looking
to
implement
something
similar,
and
so
that's
something
that
will
be
in
place
that
we
will
really
be
pushing
our
residents
towards
as
well
so
again
we're
hoping
that
people
are
able
to
stay
in
their
homes.
So
that's
the
most
important
thing.
Your
second
question
was:
oh,
a
land
bank.
J
So
you
know
we
haven't
had
a
land
bank
here
and
with
the
change
because
of
the
the
recent
supreme
court
decision.
I
don't
know
that
it
makes
sense.
I
mean
this
is
something
again
as
I'm
coming
in
we're
going
to
evaluate
everything
moving
forward,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
it
makes
sense
because
most
of
the
land
banks
in
the
state
were
funded
through
surplus
property,
their
sales
of
the
surplus
property,
and
so
that's
changing
things
considerably.
J
Additionally,
there
is
a
state
land
bank
that
is
really
easy
to
work
with
and
to
partner
with
and
so
they're
there
as
a
resource
to
us.
So
it's
something
that
obviously
I
will
look
into,
but
as
of
right
now
it's
not
something
that
we're
looking
to
move
forward
with,
especially
because
of
the
the
changing
landscape
that
we're
seeing
across
the
state.
Due
to
that
supreme
court
decision.
E
Thank
you,
chair
hi,
treasurer,
wittenberg,
good.
E
Deputy
mr
commissioner
kavel
kind
of
took
one
that
I
was
going
to
ask
so
I'll,
just
press
just
a
little
bit
more
and
advocate
for
some
folks
that
I
know
personally,
who
don't
qualify
for
step
forward.
In
fact,
I'm
trying
to
do
the
math,
perhaps
they're
18
months
behind,
so
they
they
are
in
that
window,
where
they're
not
in
foreclosure
they're,
not
in
forbearance,
but
they
do
need
a
lifeline.
E
And
so
I'm
just
wondering
is
that
a
policy
matter
that
you
would
address
or
what
are
your
thoughts
as
a
new
treasurer
to
support
those
families,
because,
unfortunately,
I
like
to
think
of
those
folks
as
the
the
forgotten
abouts,
because
they're
not
necessarily
totally
down
and
out
but
yeah
looking
for
opportunities.
So.
J
They're,
you
know
again
I'm
new
to
the
role
about
a
month
and
a
half,
but
I'm
familiar
with
the
step
forward
program
and
all
the
conversations
I've
had
is
that
it
helped
a
lot
of
people,
but
there
were
some
gaps
and
there
were
some
people
who
kind
of
slipped
through
the
cracks
for
for
better
term.
But
we
because
the
state
is
trying
to
restart
a
program.
We
really
encourage
them.
J
We
wrote
a
letter
to
to
when
they
had
public
comment
and
we've
had
conversations
with
people
through
mishta
and
really
encouraged
them
to
make
it
more
broad
for
people
that
can
qualify.
But
we
know
they're,
probably
still
going
to
be
people
who
might
not
qualify
and
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
really
looking
at
is
trying
to
put
together
a
taxpayer
relief
fund
here
in
our
office
or
well
through
the
county,
to
try
to
help
people
that
might
slip
through
the
cracks.
I
mean
we
you,
I
know.
J
Kyle
lynn
would
know
this,
but
I
I
think
the
number's
around,
like
54
percent
of
our
budget,
is
revenue
from
54
of
our
revenues
from
property
taxes.
J
So
it's
really
important
for
us
to
make
sure
that
people
can
stay
in
their
homes
and
pay
their
taxes,
and
so
I
think
this
would
be
a
program
that
would
really
be
helpful
for
the
for
exactly
the
your
friends
and
the
people
in
your
community
that
you're
referencing,
and
so
this
is
something
that
we're
really
looking
to
do
and
through
our
there's,
a
group
that
commissioner
cabell's
overseeing
with
housing.
J
This
is
something
I'm
working
closely
with
with
commissioner
jackson
and
commissioner
powell
and
commissioner
hoffman,
and
so
we're
looking
to
implement
a
program
that
would
help
those
people
who
might
slip
through
the
cracks.
D
Yes,
and
just
one
other
thing
just
from
them,
a
lot
of
community
local
communities
do
not
allow
partial
payments,
but
it's
one
of
the
things
that
the
county
treasurer
does
so
from
the
moment
that
they're
turned
over
to
us,
they
can
start
making
small
payments
break
it
down
into
something:
that's
monthly,
affordable
that
will
reduce
their
interest
liability,
which
is
the
biggest
challenge
once
they
become
delinquent.
D
So
I
mean,
even
if
somebody's
six
months
behind
they
can
start
making
payments
to
us.
We
can,
you
know,
start
getting
after
their
delinquency.
They
don't
have
to
wait
until
you
know
somebody
comes
to
their
house
and
says
you
are,
you
know
imminently
in
danger
of
foreclosure,
so
you
know
we
encourage
people
reach
out
to
us
call
us
our
staff.
Will
you
know,
work
with
them
and
try
to
find
something
that
will
help
them
stay
ahead
of
the
game.
J
And
I
think
that's
a
great
point
jody
thank
you
for
for
bringing
it
up
is
that
you
know
it's
harder
and
harder
to
tread
water
as
it
goes
along,
because
the
fees
keep
getting
assessed
and
that's
state
law
like
we
have
no
we're
not
in
you
know.
We
have
no
say
as
to
which
fees
are
going
to
be
assessed
or
not.
It
is
state
law
and
so
over
time,
they're
going
to
see
their
burden
keep
expanding.
So
we
really
encourage
people
to
get
out
in
front
of
it
as
much
as
they
can.
J
So.
Thank
you
and
then
obviously,
if,
if
you
have
some
people,
please
send
them
our
way.
We
are
happy
to
help
them.
We
also
have
rita
in
our
office
who
helps
people
try
to
find
resources
in
the
community.
She,
in
essence,
like
a
financial
coach.
She
does
a
really
good
job
helping
out,
so
anyone
you
can
send
to
our
office
we're
always
happy
to
help
and
support
them.
H
D
Sure
so
under
state
law,
there's
something
called
the
poverty
exemption,
which
is
required
under
state
law
for
every
community
to
have
standards
that
allow
for
their
taxes
to
be
reduced.
If
they
meet
certain
guidelines,
you
know
such
as
it
being
their
primary
residence
own
their
home.
D
You
know,
have
income
levels
which
vary
by
community,
and
then
their
tax
bill
will
be
reduced
by
a
certain
percentage.
Some
communities
are
100,
some
communities
are
50,
some
communities
are
25,
but
regardless,
if
somebody's
down
and
out
there's
value
to
that
reduction
to
help
them
get
by.
Unfortunately,
this
is
not
something
that
is
actively
encouraged.
D
You
know
the
numbers
that
we
see
are
very
low
across
the
county.
I
mean
just
off
the
top
of
my
head.
I
think
it
was
like
15
in
independence,
township
and
three
in
the
city
of
pontiac.
There
is
many,
many
more
people
that
qualify
for
these,
so
we
really
need
to
increase
the
education
around
this.
You
know:
option
for
people
that
are
struggling
to
meet
their
you
know.
Household
needs.
H
A
Thank
you,
okay.
If
nobody
else
has
any
other
questions
or
comments,
could
you
just
speak
a
little
bit
in
general
for
everybody's
understanding
about
what
happened
with
the
rafaeli
case
lately
and
how
that
affects
us.
J
Sure
so
I
I
probably
don't
need
to
go
back
on
what
the
rafaeli
case
is
about,
but
ultimately
that's
we're
talking
about
the
surplus
proceeds.
When
you
sell
you
foreclose
on
a
house
and
you
sell
and
there's
those
surplus
proceeds
it
used
to
be
that
the
county
could
take
those
proceeds
now
they're
going
to
have
to
go
back
to
interested
parties,
the
former
owner
and
interested
parties.
J
As
of
right
now,
like
I
said
in
2020,
the
law
has
changed.
When
I
was
in
legislature,
we
voted
to
change
the
law
so
moving
forward.
It's
going
to
look
differently.
I
think
it's
what
five
percent!
I
think
it's
a
five
percent,
but
right
now
the
the
most
recent
action
that
happened
here
in
circuit
court
here
in
oakland
county
was
whether
to
look
at
it
prospectively
or
retroactively,
and
judge
lankford
morris
ruled
that
it
is
prospective
looking,
not
retroactive.
J
So
we're
waiting
to
see
because
we
know
there's
going
to
be
an
appeal
it
was
already
filed.
So
there
was
already
an
appeal
that
was
filed,
so
we're
just
kind
of
waiting
on
that,
but
you
know
we're
just
kind
of
in
that.
In
that
pattern,
holding
and
waiting,
but
moving
forward,
the
changes
have
already
been
made
and,
like
I
said,
we
are
going
to
adapt
within
our
office
and
all
county
treasurers
across
the
state
have
to
adapt
to
the
new
law
that
was
implemented
at
the
end
of
last
year.
J
So,
but
as
far
as
what
it
you
know,
could
possibly
cost
us
here
at
the
county.
We
we
just
you
know,
we
don't
know,
because,
ultimately,
if
it
is
retroactive,
then
people
have
to
come
forward
and
we
won't
know
what
that
looks
like
until
it
actually
happens.
A
A
J
Yeah
because
we're
still
in
litigation
exactly
so-
we
don't
know
but,
but
you
know,
as
far
as
the
amount
that
that
high
end
would
be
really
high,
because
you
know
we
when
we're
putting
out
notices
and
we're
trying
to
find
people
three
years
after
you
know
within
three
years
it's
tough
to
find
some
people.
Imagine
looking
back
eight
years
or
whatever
you
know,
whatever
the
statute
is
the
limitations
to
for
people
to
to
file
their
claim.
J
A
J
K
Howdy
folks,
good
to
see
you
again
been
in
a
little
while
jim
nash,
I'm
the
water
resource.
Commissioner,
I've
got
a
few
things
you
just
kind
of
want
to
discuss
real,
quick
and
we'll
take
any
questions
you
guys
have,
starting
out
with
my
office
has
been
working
with
facilities
management
for
some
time
now,
we've
designed
a
schematic
design
for
the
new
public
works
building.
This
building
will
accommodate
the
growing
needs
of
our
facilities,
because
we've
grown
about
50
percent
in
in
staff
since
2012.
K
a
lot
of
it
because
we
took
over
pontiac
and
all
their
equipment
is
included
in
this.
So
we
need
the
new
public
works
building,
because
these
five
old
buildings
are
extremely
inefficient,
we're
looking
at
building
one,
that's
extremely
sustainable
and
very
very
low
energy.
So
this
is
the
kind
of
thing
that
we
need
to
be
doing
as
we
progress
with
making
our
campus
more
sustainable.
K
K
I've
been
working
with
several
northwest
oakland
county
communities
for
some
time
now,
plus
this,
the
village
of
leonard
up
kind
of
towards
on
the
northeast
corner
of
the
county,
they're
having
significant
issues
with
septic
systems,
septic
systems
are
failing
all
over
the
state
in
the
eagle
assume
estimates
about
one
in
five
septic
systems
in
the
entire
state
is
failing
so
up
in
this
part
of
the
county
along
the
the
commercial
corridors
us
24,
I-75
that
area
there's
a
bunch
of
businesses
and
and
facilities
there
that
are
actually
are
in
threat
of
being
closed
because
of
their
their
sanitary
systems.
K
Failing
and
once
that
fails,
there's
there's
very
little
way
to
to
create
a
new
one
in
that
soil
up
there,
it's
very
bad
for
that,
so
they
need
a
long-term
solution.
That's
going
to
be
able
to
have
deal
with
this.
The
pollution
from
sewage
that
is
is
happening
from
these
failed
septics.
We
need
a
long-term
solution.
K
We've
been
offered
a
way
of
hooking
up
to
a
sanitary
system
up
in
genesee
county
that
will
allow
these
communities
to
have
a
permanent
solution,
because
anything
short
of
some
kind
of
wastewater
treatment
plant
is
going
to
not
going
to
be
sustainable
in
the
long
term
up
in
that
part
of
the
county.
This
is
our
economic
economy.
We
have
to
make
sure
that
we
protect
these
these
communities,
so
we're
working
with
those
communities
to
do
that
and
again,
this
is
a
one-time
opportunity.
We
won't
have
that
opportunity
again
to
build
their
own
system.
K
K
They
are
the
ones
that
we
operate,
maintain
for
that
are
the
most
threatened
by
affordability,
issues
more
than
a
third
in
pontiac
and
on
well
over
fifty
percent
of
the
people
in
royal
oak
township
are
statistically
unaffordable
water
right
now,
so
we're
trying
to
make
their
systems
more
affordable,
limit
the
amount
of
shutoffs
and
for
collections
purposes,
we'd
like
to
eliminate
that
as
this
collection
method,
if
we
can,
in
the
long
term,
without
disturbing
the
system,
we've
always
operated
under
this
industry
standards
in
these
kind
of
collection
systems.
K
But
that's
not
working
anymore.
For
some
of
these
communities,
we
got
a
grant
from
the
from
the
state
to
do
this
and
they're
going
to
use
it
as
an
example.
Kind
of
a
template,
hopefully
for
other
communities
across
the
state,
to
develop
these
affordability
plans
to
keep
prices
low,
as
we
can
try
to
shut
off,
stop
shutoffs
and
give
assistance
when
people
need
it
for
things
like
leaks,
leaks,
can
cause
people
who
otherwise
can
afford
their
water
to
suddenly
not
be
able
to
afford
their
water.
So
those
are
the
kind
of
things
we're
working
on.
K
It's
to
us
part
of
that.
A
major
part
of
that
is
the
the
ability
of
these,
especially
poor
communities,
to
afford
to
get
the
grants
that
are
coming
through
this
infrastructure
bill.
Part
of
what
happens
with
these
grants
from
the
federal
government
is,
they
have
to
come
up
with
for
administrative
costs
of
financing
costs
for
the
for
the
the
forgivable
loans,
all
those
things
cost
money,
and
some
of
these
communities
are
so
poor
that
to
just
to
have
that
part
of
the
of
the
grant
come
in
to
fix
their
infrastructure
makes
it
unaffordable
for
them.
K
So
we're
looking
to
try
to
do
this
in
a
way
that
can
use
arp
funding
if
possible.
This
way,
these
disadvantaged
communities
all
the
way
from
leonard
at
the
top
of
the
county,
to
royal
oak
township,
the
bottom
of
the
county,
they
have
their
own
affordability
issues
that
they
just
can't
afford
to
get
these.
These
needed
sanitary
systems
without
help
from
the
county
and
the
federal
government
and
again
one
more
thing:
the
evergreen
farmington
sanitary
system.
K
That's
the
communities,
there's
13
communities
that
flow
to
detroit
for
treatment,
we're
doing
a
new
project
there.
That's
trading
green
infrastructure
in
detroit
for
allowing
us
to
send
more
water
sewage
to
detroit
for
treatment.
That's
coming
up,
they'll
be
looking
for
financing
for
72
million
dollars
in
improvements,
and
we
need
the
full
faith
and
credit
of
the
system
and
again,
there's
13
communities
that
we
serve
for
that,
and
that's
pretty
much
it
for
me.
If
I
have
questions
I
can
answer,
please.
B
C
B
I
you
so.
I
realized
that
your
like
a
water
resources
are
all
over.
Your
buildings
are
all
hodgepodge
all
over
the
county,
but
the
facility
you're
speaking
of
a
new
facility,
are
we
taking
in
account
how
many
people
are
going
to
be
working
at
home
before
we
develop
a
large
facility.
B
Just
because
I
think,
as
we've
been
talking
all
morning,
a
lot
of
buildings
are
going
to
be
empty,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure.
Are
we
building
a
facility
you're
building
a
facility,
yeah
we'd.
K
Be
building
a
new
facility
and
actually
of
my
office,
I
think
about
20
of
my
staff
will
be
available
to
do
a
you
know,
a
hybrid
schedule,
because
the
bulk
of
my
staff
is
field
folks
and
they
they
have
to
come
in,
go
out.
They
have
no
ability
to
do.
You
know
from
home
to
work,
so
that's
going
to
be
a
fairly
small
part,
we've
already
kind
of
figured
that
into
the
design
when
we
worked
with
facilities
management,
so
that's
already
kind
of
designed
into
it.
K
The
bulk
of
what
we're
doing
with
this
building
is
not
going
to
be
offices
for
the
for
the
staff
that's
available
for
the
part-time
at
homework.
Most
of
it's
going
to
be
for
the
the
the
field
staff
that
comes
in
in
the
morning
comes
in
the
afternoon
and
all
their
equipment,
because,
when
you
store
equipment
outside
which,
unfortunately,
we
have
to
store
some
outside
now,
it's
much
harder
on
the
long-term
sustainability
of
each
piece
of
equipment.
K
So
it's
you
know,
look
if
we
need
to
have
this
all
our
facilities,
enclosed
for
our
own
people
and
for
the
equipment
that
we
operate
and
maintain
we're.
Also
looking
to
grow,
you
know
we
operate
right
now.
We
operate
maintain
for
14
communities
under
contract,
all
their
water
and
sewer
services
and
there's,
I
think,
four
more
communities
that
are
looking
to
do
that,
but
we
can't
do
that
until
we
have
more
place
to
put
everything
so
there's
four
communities
that
have
asked
us
to
take
over
their
systems.
K
We've
told
them
and
as
soon
as
we
have
the
ability
to
really
facilitate
all
this,
we
will
but
again,
there's
there's
also
some
things
that
we
can
do
that
we
haven't
done
in
the
past
that
we
can
grow
that
way
too,
and
this
will
allow
us
that
room
to
grow,
but
again
it's
not
for
offices.
For
folks
that
would
be
eligible
to
come
in
as
a
part-time.
Are
you
going
to.
B
Just
I
know
you
said
it's
not
offices,
so
it's
more
the
for
the
workforce
that
goes
in
the
trucks
every
day
right,
but
are
you
going
to
try
to
put
billing
in
there
and
stuff?
I
know
you
just
have
all
those
little
buildings
everywhere.
You
know
we've
actually
highway.
I
think
you
have
one
or
two
there
and
I
just
wonder:
are
you
going
to
try
to
consolidate
that
into
that
or
not?
Would
that
not
fit?
Oh.
K
No
that'll
be
part
of
it,
but
again
we're
doing
much
less
collections
of
bills
nowadays.
So,
as
robert
wittenberg
mentioned,
we
we
have
this
new
pavement
program.
They
can
go
to
any
their
local,
you
know
walmart
or
or
costco
or
kroger,
or
I
mean
not
costco
but
kroger
and
a
few
other
places
to
pay
their
bill.
Plus
we're
going
to
have
we'll
be
introducing
very
soon
an
app
on
the
phone
people
can
pay
their
bill.
Look
up
anything
they
want
from
their
phone.
K
So
we're
looking
to
do
much
less
of
the
actually
in
front
of
us
payments,
we'll
much
more
be
doing
con.
Consulting
with
people
who
have
bad.
You
know
who
haven't
paid
or
trying
to
you
know,
arrange
payment
schedules
that
kind
of
thing.
So
we
have
places
to
meet
with
the
people
directly,
but
we
won't
have
it
we'll
have
one
or
two,
I
think,
maybe
doing
actually
at
the
you
know,
collecting
funds
from
people,
but
the
great
majority
will
be
just
people
paying
in
other
places.
B
H
Mr
cabell
yeah
thank
you
chair,
and
I
have
two
questions.
Unless
someone
else
was
gonna
ask
about
the
infrastructure
plan,
okay,
so
question
one.
You
mentioned
the
water
affordability
which
hats
off
to
you.
Really.
This
is
an
awesome
thing.
If
any
of
you
don't
hang
out
in
royal
oak
township
or
pontiac,
it
is
a
huge
issue
and
it's
been
something
that
people
have
been
wanting
for
a
long
time.
K
Certainly,
okay,
royal
oak
township
is
a
very
small
town.
It
used
to
be
bigger,
but
it
was
annexed
by
several
surrounding
communities
over
the
years
parts
of
it.
So
their
infrastructure
is
extremely
old.
They've
had
significant
issues,
especially
with
their
drinking
water
systems.
The
the
piping
is
is
extremely
old.
It's
it's
tuberculated.
That
means
the
flow,
isn't
very
good.
K
We've
been
working
with
them
trying
to
to
to
repair
these
things,
there's
only
there's
less
than
a
thousand
rate
payers
in
the
entire
community,
all
of
them
residential,
there's,
one
hotel
which
is
way
way
scaled
down
than
it
used
to
be
so
everything's
on
the
residential
payers.
Again,
there's
less
than
a
thousand,
so
we're
looking
to
get
a
three
million
dollar,
basically
a
refundable
loan.
K
We
have
to
go
the
loan
process
to
get,
but
then
it's
refunded
that
will
allow
us
to
replace
water
lead
lines
and
led
adjacent
lines
to
all
these
homes
to
get
that
they
have
to
come
up
with
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
to
pay
the
administrative
costs.
The
loan
costs
all
the
things
that
cost
to
to
do
this
315
million
thousand
dollars
or
so
divided.
K
Among
less
than
a
thousand
customers,
that's
an
increase
in
their
rate
of
300
a
year,
so
they
could
not
afford
that
they're
already
among
the
highest
rate,
paying
because
of
the
age
of
their
system
in
in
the
county
anyway.
So
if,
if
they,
if
they
are
going
to
get
this
money,
they
need
help
to
get
it
and
that's
what
we're
looking
for
right
now
is
to
get
that
300.
000
leonard,
is
facing
kind
of
the
same
issue,
there's
other
communities
that
have
it
to
a
lesser
degree,
really
royal
oak
township.
K
As
I
said,
if
54
of
their
population
is
technically,
water
is
unaffordable
to
them.
So
this
is
what
we're
trying
to
do.
You
know
you
mentioned
the
affordability
program.
I've
got
a
stakeholder
group.
I've
got
like
18
people
from
the
two
communities,
plus
their
elected
officials,
and
then
everybody
all
the
way
from
county
commissioners.
Up
to
senator
peter's
office
has
been
there.
So
they're
really
being
listened
to.
K
I
think,
for
the
first
time
in
a
long
time
and
and
we're
developing
a
program
that
I
think
we
need
to
make
sure
they
understand
they
support
before
they
get
it,
because
you
can't
just
come
in
from
above
and
say:
hey
look:
this
is
your
new
plan
you're
going
to
work
this
nobody's
going
to
buy
into
it,
so
we
need
to
make
sure
we
have
people
there
who
are
part
of
the
community
who
will
help
us
understand
it
and
buy
into
what
we
end
up.
You
know
proposing.
So
this
is
what
we're
trying
to
do.
K
The
the
state
grant
allows
us
to
do
that
in
a
much
more.
You
know
organized
way
with
a
contractor
ohm
that
has
worked
with
us
in
the
past,
so
we
have
a
real
ability
to
do
that.
We're
looking
we're,
also
working
with
leonard
up
in
the
top
of
the
county,
who
has
those
same
kind
of
issues.
They
don't
have
a
sewer
system,
but
they
have
their
septics
failing
everywhere,
and
people
will
end
up
losing
their
homes
over
it
in
the
long
run.
K
If
we
don't
do
something,
so
we
need
to
have
some
kind
of
way
of
helping
these
local
communities
come
up
with
that
matching
money
come
up
with
showing
that
there's
local
interest
in
this,
that
are,
we
have
a
person,
that's
helping
us,
a
treasury
who
says
vitally
important
that
we
have
local
folks,
saying
that
they're
willing
to
put
some
money
in
on
this,
so
the
state
is
more
likely
to
fund
it.
That's
what
we're
trying
to
do
here
so
I
I
appreciate
that
question.
K
That's
what
we're
hoping
to
do
and
the
more
we
can
use
outside
dollars
to
repair
this
ancient
infrastructure,
the
less
burden
it
is
on
the
ratepayers.
So
that's
a
major
part
of
what
we're
doing,
but
even
then,
when
in
in
the
the
standard
of
grants
that
you
get
from
the
federal
government,
it's
10
to
20
match,
and
these
communities
just
can't
afford
that
match
and
if
they
can't
afford
the
match,
they
can't
get
the
program.
K
We
we
have
some
streets
in
royal
oak
township
that
we
have
to
repair
that
water
main
on
a
regular
basis,
because
it's
just
getting
so
old
and
if
we
don't
have
eventually
replace
the
whole
thing,
we
won't
be
able
to
repair
it
anymore.
So
we
got
to
do
something
and
we're
doing
everything
we
can
to
make
sure
these
communities
get
to
what
they
need.
H
I
I
I
thought
you
could
take
it
off
you're,
one
of
the
six
feet
away
from
me:
okay,
so
here's,
okay,
obviously,
floods,
right,
we've
all
been
having
a
lot
of
them,
and
this
is
kind
of
my
view
is
that
people
are
coming
to
me
asking
what
do
I
do
about
this
train
or
that
problem
with
this
and
of
course
the
first
question
is:
won't
you
drain,
I
mean
it
could
be
a
homeowners
association,
it
could
be
a
township,
it
could
be
a
city,
it
could
be.
I
Anybody
is
there
in
your
your
office
or
anywhere
else,
some
kind
of
central
information,
whatever
that
has
where
each
drain
who
owns
each
drain-
and
it
doesn't
do
me
any
good
if,
if
my,
if
my
neighborhood-
which
it
does
not
but
if
it
did
had
a
drain,
but
it
doesn't
matter
if
it's
connected
to
anybody,
because
the
systems
as
we
know
are
watershed
wide,
or
at
least
whether
are
you
looking
this
habit
or
whatever,
and
maybe
I
can.
K
We
have
maps
of
all
our
drains,
there's
several
different
kinds
of
drains.
We
have
a
map,
we
have
maps
of
all
our
drains
by
little
quadrants
of
the
of
the
county.
I
don't
know.
Do
we
collect
things
from
the
other
units.
B
No,
I
think
that
that's
an
initiative
that
actually
actually
semcog
has
talked
about
in
the
past,
yes,
and
but
they
need
information
from
all
the
utilities.
In
order
to
do
that,
you
know
they
need
information
from
mdot,
they
need
information
from
their
commission.
They
need
information
from
the
community.
So
that's
the
challenge
is
getting
everybody
to
give
that
information
to
semcog
and
then
they'd
be
gladly
able
to
map
it
and
it'd
be
available,
but
so
they
started
sort
of
a
pilot
for
that,
but
it's
sort
of
in
its
infancy
stages
and
again
there.
I
So
it
would
be
basically
a
question
talking
to
semcoc
they're,
the
ones
that
have
all
that.
Okay.
B
I
And
then
you
obviously
should
have
some
of
it,
because
you
know
the
rain
doesn't
care
it
comes
through
and
it
goes
right
around
the
water
goes
wherever
it
goes
sure.
The
great
glenn
heggie
once
said.
Water
always
wins
fantastic.
K
No,
we
again
we
if
anybody
has
any
questions,
they
can
call
us
and
we
can
tell
you
just
give
us
an
address
and
we
can
tell
if
there's
drains
any
of
ours
anywhere
near
them
and
again
we
can
give
help
people
get
contact
with
their
local
dpw
if
they
want
that
that
they
can
get
those
kind
of
maps
from
their
own
communities.
A
Okay,
commissioner,
charles.
E
I
just
wanted
to
ask
the
there's
a
station
down
near
the
sam's
club
off
of
eight
mile
in
south
field
and
what
at
a
high
level
what
goes
on
there
and
will
that
remain
an
integral
part
of
your
system
over
the
years
to
come.
J
B
That
that's
basically
the
largest
pump
pumping
station
of
the
evergreen
permanent
system
that
jim
talked
about
earlier,
so
basically
that
that
station
pumps,
the
water
from
the
entire
system
into
the
great
lakes
water
authority
system,
where
then
it's
transported
down
to
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
so
that
that
station's
going
to
be
it's
a
significant
station.
That'll,
probably
be
there
forever.
B
Actually,
there's
going
to
be
some
upgrades
to
that
station,
that's
included
in
that
72
million
dollar
project
that
jim
mentioned.
Okay.
K
Like
I
mentioned
the
the
system,
the
evergreen
farming
system,
it
takes
part
of
birmingham
and
it
goes
all
the
way
over
to
kegel
harbor,
west
west
bloomfield,
farmington
hills.
South
field
has
a
piece
of
it.
Farmington
does
so
it's
it's
a
bunch
of
communities
that
contribute
to
that.
So
fascinating!
Oh,
it's!
It
is.
A
Thank
you,
okay,
any
other
commissioners
I
just
have.
I
want
you
to
elaborate
a
little
bit
on
the
building
you
want
to
build.
A
I
know
you
as
the
greatest
environmentalist
oakland
county
has
today
and
I'm
pr,
I
hope,
to
be
number
two
and
how
people
think
of
me
so
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
this
new
building
and
and
what
you're
doing
with
the
design
to
make
it
as
sustainable
as
possible
and
as
set
for
the
future,
as
it
should
be.
K
Well,
certainly,
starting
out
with
the
old
facilities
our
the
building,
I'm
in
was
built
a
couple
years
before
I
graduated
high
school.
You
know
I'm
I'm
a
few
years
older
than
that
now
so
it's
it's
was
built
for
a
time
when,
when
I
don't
even
think
it
might,
some
of
it
might
not
even
be
insulated.
It
was
built
in
the
time
when
energy
was
super
cheap,
so
people
didn't
care
much.
We
also
have
a
couple
of
older
facilities
even
than
that
that
we
we
operate
some
of
our
field
crews.
K
Out
of
again,
these
are
very,
very
inefficient
buildings,
old
heating
systems,
the
whole
nine
yards
we'll
be
able
to
come
into
a
system
that
will
be
centralized.
Hopefully
it's
gonna
be
we'll
have
a
set
of
solar
off
to
the
side,
we're
going
to
have
it
heavily
insulated.
It's
going
to
be
much
more
efficient.
Building
water
wise
will
be
much
more
efficient.
We're
going
to
kind
of.
We
want
to
kind
of
change
how
the
campus
water
flow
for
storm
water
is,
I
think,
that's
part
of
what
our
problems
are.
K
So,
there's
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
new
things
that
we
want
to
do
that
are
going
to
make
this
building
way
more
efficient
than
the
old
ones,
plus
just
being
spread
out,
there's
more
transport
between
going
between
buildings,
and
we
really
have
to
have
it
all
and
that
again
that's
funding
that
that
that
we're
paying
and
that
we're
contributing
to
climate
change.
So
all
those
kind
of
things
can
have
an
impact
on
that
again.
K
The
bulk
of
the
enclosed
area
is
going
to
be
for
the
field
staff
and
all
their
equipment.
Because,
right
now
we
have
some
equipment
in
a
very
very
you
know,
crowded
pole,
barn
that
it's
it's
really
hard
to
get
this
stuff
out
in
the
morning,
they'll
be
able
to
be
much
more
likely
to
be
able
to
just
pull
in
and
out
it'll,
be
much
quicker
transfer
of
of
staff
going
out
in
the
field
and
again
just
being
centralized.
That
makes
it
more
efficient
that
way
too.
K
We
we
looked
at
geothermal.
We
were
told
that
it
wasn't
as
efficient
in
this
in
this
part
of
the
area
here
in
this
part
of
this,
the
county.
So
we're
not
going
to
be
doing
that.
I
guess,
but
we're
going
to
be
doing
everything
we
can
to
make
sure
everything
we're
doing
is
we're
going
to
have
way
more
light
natural
light
coming
in
than
we
ever
have
before
we're
going
to
be
using
much
less
energy,
intensive
utilities
and
lights
and
everything
inside
it.
K
We've
already
made
those
kind
of
decisions
that
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
be
as
efficient
as
possible.
I
I
haven't
seen
the
exact
we're
saving.
I
think
it
was
a
million
and
a
half
a
year
was,
I
forget,
the
number
now
of
of
what
we're
expecting
to
save
for
energy
use.
Do
you
remember
that
about
a
million
and
a
half
a
year
just
for
energy
use,
plus
all
the
other
efficiencies
we'll
bring
in
by
this?
So
there's
there's
a
huge
amount
of
of
to
me.