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B
Smith
Charles
I
am
here
president.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
All
right,
Mr
lowmeyer,
welcome.
F
So
she'll
still
have
to
get
her
certification
from
the
State
Tax
Commission
and
go
through
that
whole
approval
process
will
help
out
through
the
rest
of
the
year
and
then
next
year,
through
Order
review
processes
and
roll
over
and
our
contract
was
increased.
Four
percent
from
the
last
contract
period
doing
the
exact
same
Services
we
did
for
the
last
year.
This
is
a
one-year
contract,
so
it's
essentially
the
same
contract
responsibilities
as
we
had
last
year
and
now
I
see
it
ready.
G
D
You
go
go
back
to
your
other
page
now.
Well,
I
was
that's
what
I
was
and
I'm
gonna.
Let
Ajay
ask
them
one
about
Novi,
specifically,
but
the
four
percent
increase
but
kind
of
a
little
off
subject,
but
it
is
to
be
related
to
this.
Assessing.
Why
is
Commerce
saying
it's?
A
seven
and
a
half
percent
increase
I
know
they're
having
trouble
not
but
you're
working
with
them,
but
I'm.
D
F
F
Every
contract
is
all
of
those
contracts
were
done
on
a
parcel
basis,
and
this
one
last
last
year
was
75.
000
was
increased
to
seventy
eight
thousand.
It's
four
percent.
Every
contract
was
done
at
a
four
percent
increase.
The
32
municipalities
are
done
on
a
perpartial
basis.
Those
were
increased
at
four
percent.
If
you
take
what
we
did
last
year
and
you
compared
to
this
year,
it
was
all
figuratively
specifically
done
on
a
four
percent.
Okay.
D
And
are
you
working
with
them,
please
with
cameras,
we
work
with
Okay
I
mean
because
I
know
they're
not
signing
this
contract.
You
know
like
how
Novi
did
yet
so
I
just
I'm
just
asking
for
some
help
with
that,
but
that
they're
having
trouble
with
the
increase,
so
I
think
I.
Think
they're
talking.
F
I
haven't
heard
anybody
specifically
tell
me
that
they
had
a
problem
with
the
increase,
but
every
contract
was
done
at
a
four
percent
increase.
Okay,.
F
Right,
nobody
has
approached
me.
Okay
at
all,
so
you
had
an
issue
with
the
percentage.
Okay
contract
pricing,
but
all
we
did
was
take.
The
price
of
last
year
took
the
parcel
the
parcel
and
we
increased
it.
Four
percent,
unfortunately,
I
mean
I
I
shared
that
I
can
share
this
project
with
anybody.
No.
D
C
D
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
So,
to
that
end,
I
guess
I
do
want
to
get
some
clarification.
So
you
mentioned
for
this
previous
year.
You
provided
the
service
to
City
of
Novi,
because
they
don't
have
someone
in
place
they're,
hoping
that
they
will
in
short
time,
get
someone
in
place
and
eventually
they
will
take
it
over
and
do
it
on
their
own.
Is
that
correct.
F
F
It's
a
great
honor
to
continue
to
do
their
work.
They
have
a
great
quality
assessment
product
there,
but
we
did
just
do
a
one
year
because
we're
hoping
to
fulfill
their
assessing
Assessor's.
I
F
You
know
they
it's
to
do
the
quality
of
service
that
we
we
provide.
We
take
it.
F
And
we
oversee
it
with
a
lot
of
due
diligence,
we
go
down
and
I
sit
in
a
little
bit
on
the
board
of
reviews.
We
take
that
responsibility
with
a
lot
of
care,
potentially
so
and
their
their
staff
does
too
so.
We've
mentored
their
Deputy
to
learn
some
of
the
responsibilities
that
she's
going
to
have
to
take
over
if
she
is
their
selection,
which
I
hope
hope
she
is.
That's
our
intention
so
I'm,
hoping
that
one
year
is
the
only
extra
year
we
have
to
do.
F
I
We
continue
to
have
dry,
lumps
and
got
it
okay.
It
makes
sense,
and
then
to
commissioner
Long's
point
just
in
terms
of
the
pricing
structure.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
too
that,
if
there
truly
is
a
concern
from
from
any
of
the
communities
that
you
know,
nobody
is
sort
of
represented
in
the
same
way
as
well.
If.
F
F
It
was
four
percent
for
each
year.
I
should
say
it's
not
four
percent
for
for
the
total
two
years,
because
if
the
32
communities
we
did
the
two-year
contract,
it
was
four
percent
for
each
year.
F
Now,
keep
in
mind
that
the
inflation
rate
was
7.9
and
the
inflation
rate
multiplier
for
taxable
value
increase
was
five
percent,
so
four
percent
increases
lower
than
the
taxable
value
increases
for
the
multiplier
and
for
the
Headley
increase.
So
taxes
are
going
up
in
each
of
the
communities
much
higher
than
four
percent.
G
Commissioner,
Cabell
o
this
might
come
back
later.
What
about
Mutual
Aid?
Why
not
just
write
other
departments
do
Mutual
Aid?
Why
would
that
not
be
part
of
the
consideration
here?
Because
you
have
people
concerned
about
the
cost
mutually
as
far
as
like
in
kind
or
helping
people
out
pro
bono,
because
it's
just
a
mutual
benefit.
F
A
Okay,
anybody
else
with
a
question
or
a
comment
prompt
the
vote.
A
You
remember
the
whole
thing
from
last
year
right
six
years
since
they're
amazed,
okay,
yeah,
thank
you,
I'm,
just
making
sure
all
right.
Next
item
is
item
8B.
Thank
you.
Mr
wallmeyer,
new
service
with
the
city
of
Highland
Park
for
access
to
Oak,
net
connectivity
and
Plymouth
I'll.
Take
them
by
Fisher
weipert,
supported
by
commissioner
Rahman.
K
K
A
G
So
first
might
be
a
sheriff
question,
but
it's
a
Highland
Park
not
been
in
the
climate
system.
Isn't
it
super
integral
for
like
policing,
so
they
people.
G
Okay
and
what
are
when
I
looked
at
the
agreement?
I-
don't
know
if
I
fully
understood,
but
how
do
we
then
help
in
Oakland
County.
K
So
they
they
get
access
to
the
software
for
Columbus.
So
it's
I
think
it's
there's
two
license
plates,
so
it's
the
it's
basically
the
police
package
that
they
would
have
access
and
then
the
the
radio
system.
K
I
think
that's
a
factor
it's
so
you
know
they.
They
have
their
own
police
department,
but
I
think
that
they
would
they
want
to
like
the
Gage
Town,
one
that
I
think
came
through
last
month.
It
was
a.
It
was
like
less
than
one
square
mile.
There's
one
Sheriff
there
and
their
reasoning
was
that
the
state
wanted
an
electronic
submission
of
the
tickets
and
they
don't
have
the
software.
If
we
do
so,
it's
kind
of
an
economy
of
scale
thing
I
think
from
a
software
perspective,
but
then
there's
also
they
share
on
the.
K
G
Well:
okay,
what
you
know
why?
Why
aren't
we
doing
Mutual
Aid
I'm
in
Highland
Park
has
like
a
50
million
dollar
water
debt
and
16
000
residents.
They
don't
have
a
school
district
anymore
right
like
why?
Don't
we
just
give
them
the
license
for
free.
K
K
Like
the
35k
covers
are
costs
to
bring
them
into
the
system
and
then
there's
ongoing,
and
this
is
really
kind
of
the
larger
Columbus
deficit
discussion
right
that
because
we've
kept
the
rates
flat-
and
you
know
it's
not
for
a
cost
and
increased
over
time-
I
think
that
they're
now
there's
some
subsidizing
of
the
county.
For
you
know,
some
of
this
is
outside
in
the
gallery.
So
but
again,
I
think
that
you
know
you
could
make
a
case
to
say
that
there's
there's
benefit
to
the
state
at
large
from
this
right.
K
But
it's
just
you
know
from
a
dollar's
perspective.
I
guess
it's
not
so
much
me
deciding
but
I
guess
you
know,
as
the
government
body
deciding
you
know,
to
what
extent
you
want
to
do
that.
L
A
A
Okay
commissioner
long
and
followed
by
commissioner
Rahman
thank.
D
You
chairwoman
I'm
an
opposite
note.
Here:
I
am
saying
on
the
35
000,
you
said
we're
collecting
that
before
we
start
right
because
it
is
Highland
Park,
they
owe
lots
of
money
for
water.
So,
okay,
thank
you.
I'm,
opposite
attorney.
Am
I,
get
your
money
in
your
hands.
First,
it's
not
in
Oakland
County,
so
we're
doing
them
a
service.
You
know
helping
them.
So,
okay,.
A
I
K
Oakland
County
to
develop
the
system,
but
it's
used
by
other
countries
and
some
of
the
teas.
Yes,
okay,.
K
You
know
there
are
software
packages
that
do
clemency
like
functions
for
sure,
and
you
know
it
would
be.
You
know
other
these
District
site
have
the
option
to
have
their
own
software,
I
guess
and
I
I
don't
know.
I
haven't
had
any
direct
conversations
with
the
consumers
of
this
to
see
what
the
relative
advantages
might
be.
I
mean
I.
Think
there's
some
there's
some
benefit
to
this.
You
know
pooling
of
the
police
data
other
than
that
I
don't
know
so.
K
K
Plate
yeah-
maybe
that
wasn't
a
great
example
and
I'm
you
know
not
not
having
a
law
enforcement
background,
I'm,
not
exactly
sure
how
all
that
works.
But
you
know
so
we
do
have
a
9-1-1
dispatching
system.
That's
available.
We
have
the
we're
going
out
of
the
state
mpscs
radio
system
for
the
police.
So
that's
another
piece
of
this
I
think
there's
a
dispatching
function.
That's
within
Columbus
there's
there's
something
called
clear
which
I
think
is
clearly
and
if
they
do
the
background
checks
and
there's
like
a
mug
shot
capability.
K
From
a
legal
perspective,
I'm
not
sure
so
we
you
know
I,
guess
to
the
to
the
point
that
we
we
have
this
pre-existing
condition
with
other
I.
Don't
know
the
county
entities.
I
guess
this
would
fall
under
the
same
umbrella
as
that,
but
I,
don't
from
a
legal
perspective.
What
the
answer
to
this
I'm
assuming
that's,
been
worked
out
since
we've
done
this
before
yeah.
I
K
M
Questions
chairman
woman
Markham:
this
is
Mike
Keith
with
the
boc
staff
I
just
wanted
to.
Let
you
know
that
a
part
of
this
motion
will
be
a
requirement
that
the
IT
department
include
a
list
of
all
of
the
the
communities
that
are
using
this
service
and
the
other
services
in
the
upcoming
I.T
report
quarterly
report.
So
just
a
reminder
to
look
out
for
that.
Thank.
A
A
A
G
If
someone
asks
I
guess
I'm
supposed
to
because
the
one
of.
G
G
N
A
C
J
D
B
A
Yeah
no
to
be
formal,
Mr
Andrews
reminds
me
that
the
way
this
is
written,
the
funding
goes
to
the
city
of
Pontiac
and
then
the
city
invoices
us
yeah.
So
that's
another
step
out
of
that.
Loop.
K
N
What
do
you
mean
by
invoices
us
so
we
we
donate
something
to
Pontiac.
Why
would
they
be
invoicing
us
so.
M
Chairwoman
Markham,
this
is
Mike
Keys
again
from
the
boc
team.
I
can
certainly
speak
to
the
item
if
you'd
like
yeah.
M
Just
a
couple
things
to
remember
important
about
this
item
is:
it
is
a
fifteen
thousand
dollar
request.
There
is
a
requirement
that
the
city
of
Pontiac
matches
that
fifteen
thousand
dollars
as
well
has
been
pointed
out
by
Michael
Andrews.
The
money
will
be
going
directly
to
the
city
of
Pontiac
for
the
sponsorship
of
the
event
into
commissioner
Charles's
question.
When
we
have
these
sponsorships,
one
of
the
requirements
from
purchasing
is
that
we
receive
an
invoice
for
that
sponsorship.
M
Exactly
what
will
what
will
we
will
be
recognized
or
given
for
those
dollars,
and
so
that
will
take
place
with
this
item
as
well,
where
we
get
that
invoice
before
any
funds
are
released.
You'll
notice
from
the
motion
language
that,
in
addition
to
that
invoice,
we
are
requiring
proof
that
the
matching
funds
have
been
released
or
have
been
spent.
M
G
I
am
a
subordinate
of
one
of
the
parties
to
the
event,
so
I
don't
want
to
vote
for
this.
There's
more
words
abstain.
So
we
could
just
call
the
lawyer
for
the
county
sent
me
a
pen,
okay,
okay,.
C
B
E
A
N
You
can't
be
mad
at
it
all
right,
I
need
a
motion
for
item
D,
Madam,
chair.
A
G
B
P
D
D
D
B
B
B
G
A
D
D
D
A
D
The
public
see:
oh,
we
can't
vote,
we
can
vote
verbally
if
we
have
to.
N
D
D
C
A
D
Q
Good
morning,
Kyle
Jen,
director
of
Management's
budget
I'm
joined
by
my
colleague,
McCoy
we're
here
to
present
the
third
quarter,
forecast
Associated
budget
amendments.
Q
I
would
frame
this
as
overall
in
a
word
or
a
good
shape
in
terms
of
of
Revenue
and
spending
Trends.
As
we
approach
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year,
they're
one.
There
is
one
one
spending
item
of
significance
that
I'll
highlight
as
we
go
along
here
on
the
revenue
side,
we
are
forecasted
to
have
general
fund
revenues
that
are
1.3
million
dollars
higher
than
the
amount
that's
currently
assumed
in
the
budget.
Q
Q
On
the
expenditure
side,
expenditures
are
forecast
to
be
6.4
million
dollars
lower
than
the
amounts
assumed
in
the
budget.
Currently
you
know
that
accounts
for
the
10
million
dollars
on
the
Personnel
side
and
the
eight
million
dollars
on
the
operating
side
that
we
assumed
in
the
adopted
budget
to
say
you
know
we
know
there's
going
to
be
turnover
and
personnel
and
we
know
there's
going
to
be
Savings
in
the
operating
side,
so
even
accounting
for
that
18
million
there's
another
six
million
dollars.
Q
On
top
of
that,
you
know,
I
think
the
largest
factor
there.
You
know
that
I
would
offer
a
warning
about
going
forward.
Is
the
child
care
fund?
Q
Q
Q
The
item
of
concern-
you
know,
that's
going
to
need
to
be
addressed.
You
know,
by
the
sheriff's
office,
by
fiscal
Services
and
by
this
committee.
Is
that
we're
projecting
that
Personnel
costs
in
the
Sheriff's
Office
will
be
3.6
million
dollars
higher
than
the
amount
that's
that's
currently
budgeted.
Q
Q
You
know
how
much
of
this
is
a
is
a
one-time
problem
and
how
much
of
this
is
a
problem
that
will
continue
to
to
fiscal
year
2004
and
then
how
do
we
adjust
the
budget
in
terms
of
either
reallocating
resources
within
their
budget
or,
as
a
last
resort,
adding
general
fund?
You
know
to
the
budget
which,
which
obviously
presents
challenges
in
terms
of
staying
structurally
balanced.
There's
a
small
over
expenditure
amount
projected
in
the
Water
Resource
commissioner,
but
it's
more
of
a
technical
item
on
the
only
totals
fifteen
thousand
dollars.
Peace.
Q
So,
overall
you
know
the
the
current
budget
assumes
28
million
dollars
in
planned
use
of
fund
balance
for
one-time
spending
items
for
the
current
fiscal
year.
So,
based
on
this
forecast.
Q
Good
only
used
20
million
dollars
of
fund
balance,
which
would
leave
us
with
the
fund
balance
of
just
about
exactly
to
200
million
dollars,
which
is
40
of
our
ongoing
budget.
So
still
at
a
pretty
healthy
level,
there
are
other
things
that
will
affect
that
number.
You
know
final
spending
numbers
as
we
close
out
the
fiscal
year
as
well
as
some
things
that
have
been
award.
Q
You
know
in
the
fourth
quarter
back
number,
so
we
will
bring
you
the
year-end
report
at
the
end
of
November.
That
will
account
for
all
those
things
and
give
us
a
final
finals
on
the
house
number
for
the
general
fund
for
fiscal
year.
2020
is
right.
There
are
a
series
of
budget
amendments,
as
there
always
are,
with
the
quarterly
forecast.
You
know
most
technical
cleanup
items
the
one
I
should
highlight
you
know
that
is,
that
is
a
significant
cost.
Q
Is
the
budget
amendment
for
the
command
Officers
Association
arbitration
award
because
it's
an
arbitration
award,
you
know
which
is
binding
upon
the
county
that
did
not
come
to
you
separately.
You
know
as
an
item
for
consideration.
There
are
significant
costs
associated
with
that.
So,
for
fiscal
year
2023
the
budget
is
being
amended
by
two
million
dollars
general
fund,
which
will
need
to
come
out
of
fund
balance
for
fiscal
year.
2024.
The
the
amendment
reflects
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
in
higher
costs
for
fiscal
year
2025.
Q
It
reflects
three
and
a
half
million
dollars
of
higher
costs,
because
we
didn't
know
about
this.
One,
the
county
executive
recommendation
was
presented.
We
did
reserve
the
funds
for
fiscal
year,
2024
and
2025..
Q
You
know
so
those
those
costs
still
fit
within
our
structural
balance.
Calculation.
You
know
for
the
budget
that's
going
to
be
adopted
by
the
court
tomorrow.
Q
D
Thank
you
so
Kyle
on
the
Sheriff's
Office,
the
3.6
million
higher
expenditures
is
that
the
and
then
under
Sheriff
Charles,
is
here
too.
But
is
that
the
reason
why
the
talk
or
the
increase
of
the
contract
rates
for
the
local
municipalities
that
offset
that
Personnel.
Q
Is
that
why
I
think
those
issues
are
directly
tied
to
each
other?
You
know
there
were
the
the
contracts
that
are
in
place
for
the
current
three
years
with
with
localities.
Q
You
know,
there's
a
component
in
terms
of
the
higher
costs
of
the
contract
that
was
negotiated
with
the
sheriff
deputies
and
now
the
you
know,
the
contract
that's
been
been
handed
down
to
arbitration
on
the
command
officer
side.
You
know,
I,
think
those
contracts
you
know
do
need
to
be
trued
up
going
forward.
Q
D
Okay,
so
that
is
so
what
then,
if
I
could
ask
in
that
contract
increases
for
the
vocal
medicine
penalties,
because
I
thought
it
was
all
this
cost.
You
know,
because
of
our
cost
of
our
you
know
we're
giving
them
raises.
Obviously
we
need
to
attract
and
retain
I
get
that,
and
that
was
what
I
was
explaining.
I
mean
I'm,
hoping
you'll
have
that
meeting
soon,
because
I'm
trying
to
explain
to
my
local
supervisors,
you
know
and
I
I
told
them.
D
It
was
because
of
personnel
cost
because
you
know
went
up
they're
going
up
so
much
for
the
deputy
that
the
contracts
are
going
up,
but
what
else
is
factored
into
that
a
lot
or
a
little,
or
you
know
like
to
to
the
increase
of
the
contracts
yeah
to
be
given
the
right
information,
I'm
hoping
your
meetings
are
sooner
or
better
than
later
with
the
locals.
But
this
is
a
huge
issue
for
Commerce
Township
right
now,
I
think
they're
having
a
special
meeting
over
it.
D
D
O
E
D
I
think
that's
where
the
conversation
am
I
right.
Is
it
mostly
Personnel
I
mean
we
can't
I
mean
it's
just
like
when
you
have
a
business
and
you
re,
you
know
you
give
all
like
we
gave
up,
but
one
of
the
starting
rates
way
higher
than
we
used
to
so
you
raise
your
price
of
stuff,
so
I
get
that,
but
I
was
thinking.
It
was
mostly
Personnel
why
these
contracts
are
going
up,
am
I
wrong.
It's
that's
primary.
E
You
know,
that's
probably
the
biggest
part
of
it,
that's
a
big
percentage.
Okay,
we
also
have
the
conversation.
That's
been
going
on
with
chairman
Woodward
about
incorporating
indirect
costs,
so
there's
an
additional
I
think
it's
going
to
be
seven
percent.
That
has
been
Incorporated.
That
was
not
in
previous
ones
and
that
pays
for
you
know:
County
general
fund
expenditures.
So
that's
a
new
Factor
there's.
D
H
Weipert.
Thank
you.
When,
at
budget
hearings
the
3.6,
it
was
talked
about
that
it's
personnel
and
holiday
and
overtime
and
Hospital
in
jail
and
the
lack
of
people
going
in
to
be
in
deputies
right
and
we've.
There's
lots
of
overtime.
I
mean
that
yeah.
E
H
The
concern
is,
is
it
continuing
right?
That's
that's
how
it
was
right.
Okay,
so
is
that
and
I
know
the
sheriff
is
worried
about
that
trend,
nobody's
going
into
law
enforcement
and
right.
P
H
H
H
I
My
comments
are
actually
the
same
as
my
fellow
Commissioners
here
and
just
the
thought
that
you
know
I
get
how
we
ended
up
here.
What
is
our
solution?
I
know
it's
hard
to
see
what
is
the
solution,
but
I
guess
what
are
we
doing
to
either
offset
elsewhere,
or
are
we
planning
to
just
trickle
in
extra
money
from
general
fund
for
this
moving
forward?
I
guess
I
just
want
to
maybe
get
a
little
bit
of
clarification
on
I
mean
we're
here
now.
What
is
our
immediate
short
to
midterm
plan
yeah
so.
Q
From
my
perspective
and
then
I'll,
certainly
let
the
undershare
for
Hurricane,
you
know
weigh-in.
The
first
step
is
how
much
of
this
is
a
one-time
cost,
because
you
know
there
has
been
a
substantial
amount
of
hiring
in
the
past
year
or
so
we're
paying.
You
know
those
new
hires,
while
they're
being
trained
we're
paying
the
costs
of
the
training
and
we're
still
paying
the
overtime.
Q
Oh
I,
don't
think
that's
the
only
Factor
here
but
that's
you
know,
I
think
as
we
sit
here
today,
we
think
that's
the
biggest
Factor,
so
the
first
step
is
to
figure
out.
You
know
how
much
of
these
costs
are,
because
of
of
actually
being
successful,
with
hiring
those
costs
to
go
down
in
future
years,
as
we
get
to
more
of
a
steady
state
in
terms
of
hiring
and
then
I
think,
once
we
we
have
a
better.
You
know
a
better
estimate
of
the
amount.
I
Q
We
have
here,
you
know
I
think,
certainly
before
we
start
building
the
fy25
budget
early
next
year
or
so
I
mean
I.
Think
this
will
be.
You
know
a
top
a
top
priority
over
the
next
month
or
two
when.
O
We
met
with
Kyle
earlier
in
the
week
he
nailed
it
when
he
said,
we've
been
a
victim
of
our
own
success
because
we've
hired
so
many
we're
paying
the
new
hires
but
they're
not
training
for
a
matter
of
months.
So
for
those
months
we
pay
their
salaries.
I
have
to
pay
overtime
to
fill
their
positions
yeah,
as
those
people
come
off
training,
we
should
have
a
better
grasp
of
what
we
have
personally.
E
Or
the
good
news
efforts
have
leaders,
but,
however,
we
still
have
a
turnover
Factor,
so
just
just,
for
example,
Deputy
one,
so
we've
hired
65
in
the
last
year
we
have
a
turnover
rate
of
25.
So
if
you
think
about
hiring
that
and
then
currently
we
have
six
vacancies,
so
we're
gonna
be
a
really
really
great
job
at.
If
you
recall,
probably
during
the
pandemic,
we
were
up
to
50
or
so
vacancies,
so
we're
doing
a
really
good
job
at
hiring
them.
However,
a
lot
of
times
when
they
go
through
training,
they
decide
this.
E
This
career
probably
isn't
for
them
dispatch.
We
have
a
35
turnover
rate,
so
we're
hiring
them
necessarily
so
we're
putting
in
all
of
that
effort
and
all
of
that
time
and
money
and
training
and
that
they
don't
stay.
And
then
we
have
to
start
over
again.
So
this
this
year
was
kind
of
The
Perfect
Storm
of
having
those
positions
filled
in
training,
paying
people
to
train.
It's.
I
O
Us
in
the
jail
in
dispatch,
we
definitely
give
them
an
exposure
early
on
so
that
they
know
what
they're
getting
into
for
dispatchers,
though
they
are
offered
an
opportunity
to
sit
in
a
room
and
watch
and
a
lot
of
people
won't
even
come
back
for
the
interview.
So
we
try
and
get
rid
of
those
early
on
in
the
process,
but
those
that
stick
around.
We
do
train
them
for
those
months
and
sometimes
at
the
end
of
training.
They
decide
to
stop
for
them.
E
E
G
D
G
Last
number:
the
193
okay.
So
what
you
will
see
is
item
e.
Is
the
health
department
requesting
to
delete
two
positions,
one
for
a
use,
Suicide
Prevention
person?
That
was
only
able
to
be
part-time
because
their
budget
is
small
enough
to
be
like
that,
and
the
second
person
is
in
HIV
prevention
person,
which
was
also
only
part-time
because
their
budget
is
that
small.
G
G
So
it's
the
opposite
way,
Kyle's
giving
us
the
information
we
interpret
it.
We
can
either
say
we
got
to
give
the
sheriff
200
million
dollars
and
then
205
and
then
210.,
but
other
departments
also
need
money
and
other
departments
don't
have
15
14
1
370
employees,
plus
the
six
staff
positions
that
they're
getting
in
this
budget,
which
again
other
departments,
ask
for
declines
in
their
staff
positions.
G
N
Totally
dig
what
my
colleague
is
is
saying
over
here.
The
one
caveat
that
I
like
to
elevate
again
the
timing
of
everything,
but
I
was
able
to
get
over
to
the
forensics
tour
today
and
learning
from
just
Public
Service.
Do
you
walk
through
you
know?
What
do
you
guys
need?
What
do
you
need?
What
do
you
like
and
how
can
we
help
and
they
are
about
400
cases
behind
when
it
comes
to
I,
think
it
was
like
DNA
testing
ballistics,
all
that
stuff
and
so
I
asked
you
know?
N
Is
it
Staffing
and
they
were
like?
No,
it's
not
so
much
Staffing
as
it
is
space.
They
don't
have
the
space
for
the
equipment
to
to
run
these
tests,
and
so,
if
you
God
forbid
or
someone
you
know
was
raped
yesterday
and
the
assailant
was,
you
know,
they
ran
all
the
little
tests
and
everything
it
could
be
months
and
months
and
months,
and
so,
while
I'm
not
here
to
suggest
just
an
open
check.
N
I
know,
as
you
know,
if
I
were
on
the
other
end
of
a
crime,
I
would
want
you
all
to
have
enough
manpower
and
and
resources
to
be
able
to
go
catch.
The
crook,
and
so
that's
why
I
bring
this
up
is
because
I
think
we
at
least
I
do
sometimes
when
I
think
of
sheriff
I.
Just
think
about
the
the
you
know,
the
guys
on
the
beat
count
on
the
pavement
and
stuff.
N
But
there
are
a
lot
of
structural
things
that
go
into
the
job
of
catching
the
crunk
and
so
or
making
sure
they
find
the
right
person
and
not
just
catching
a
person
that
wasn't
the
crook.
So
that's
why
I
I
ebb
and
flow
with
you
on
this
I'd
like
to
know
of
that
monies.
That
was
here
how
much
or
if
any
I
saw
forensics
come
up
a
little
bit,
but
how
much
of
it
is
in
the
administrative
side
versus
the
operation
side?
O
I,
don't
know
that
number
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
I
definitely
can
get
it
for
you,
but
the
majority
is
I
mean
we.
We
would
love
to
see
our
lab
grow
because
we
do.
We
could
use
the
space
and
the
personnel,
but
I,
don't
know
what
that
percentage
is
I
know
as
far
as
supervision
would
run
pretty
fit.
E
Hours
and
for
the
most
part,
all
of
our
all
of
our
position
requests
were
out
of
my
Neutron,
so
information
we
could
to
fund
what
we
needed.
So
we're
always
looking
at.
Obviously,
I
worked
in
fiscal
services
for
20
years,
so
I'm
very,
very
sensitive
to
the
bottom
line,
so
any
through
structuring
any
changes
that
we
need
to
make
I
try
to
make
it
as
Revenue
neutral
as
possible,
the
ones
that
you're
looking
at
that's
actually
an
increase.
E
G
E
Thousand
yes,
other
than
that,
we
did
that
yeah,
but
we
absolutely
but
obviously
I
mean
I've.
You
know
we
have
a
huge
budget,
the
majority
of
that
is
personnel
and
and
I
would
say
uncontrollable.
We
run
a
24
7
operation,
we
have
a
jail
list,
24
7..
We
have
shifts
that
we
have
to
fill.
Some
of
that
is
to
work
on
holidays
and
you
work
every
single
day
of
the
year
and
some
of
that's
expensive,
but.
G
I
think
this
goes
to
our
broader
policy.
Conversation
is
again
to
values.
Is
yes,
it's
24
7..
Yes,
it's
a
tough
job,
but
is
it
that
there's
1400
employees,
tough
or
like
you
were
lifting
up
Yolanda?
Is
it
those
1400
employees
when
you
ask
people
from
forensics
from
500
hours
to
a
thousand
hours,
that's
two
more
people
that
are
now
like
legit
part-time,
instead
of
quarter
time.
So
it's
also
right.
G
It's
values
that
we're
trying
to
share
and
project,
but
it's
also
the
values
that
the
independently
elected
Sheriff
holds
to
be
like
worthwhile,
and
so
that's
on
him
and
some
of
that
we
don't
have
control
over,
but
a
lot
of
it.
We
do
because
again
they
have
constraints
and
worries
that
they
have
and
priorities
that
they
have,
which
I
think
are
different
than
what
a
lot
of
us
think
but
saying
that
to
say
simply
put
is
like
for
their
budget.
G
Ask
I
mean
one
of
us
when
has
any
of
us
said
no
to
the
sheriff
like
when?
Have
they
not
gotten
something
passed?
So
if
they
wanted
five
more
forensics
people
to
be
in
2
000
hours
like
a
full-time
person,
I,
don't
remember
I,
don't
see
why
they
wouldn't
be
able
to
get
away
with
that.
But
they
asked
for
two
or
five
hundred
to
a
thousand
and.
N
E
We
call
those
questions
were
previously
funded
by
grant
funding
and
then
the
grant
funding
went
away.
So
technically
those
positions
should
have
been
deleted,
but
we
reallocated
resources
in
our
budget
to
fund
them
right
at
the
minimum
that
we
could
and
then,
if
the
first
opportunity
increase
them
to
the
maximum
amount
of
just
a
thousand
hours,
because
we've
heard
the
board
say
that
you
want
more
right.
You
know
gun
yeah,
a
quicker
turnaround
for
guns,
so
right,
which
we
appreciate.
Yes,
yeah.
A
H
Commissioner,
wiper
and
just
and
follow
up
on
your
comment
about
the
two
million
dollars
that
we
just
were
told
about
that.
That
came
from
arbitration
that
we
have
to
do
that
right,
correct
that
was,
it
was
we
knew
it
was
coming
down,
but
we
had
we
have
that
contract
basically
got
handed
to
us.
So
that's
we're
doing
that
Amendment.
They
had
the
right
to
go
to
bargaining,
right
unions,
and
they
did
that.
So,
oh.
G
What
I'm
saying
more
broadly
is:
do
we
need
1400,
Sheriff's
Department
with
14.
H
A
Anybody
else,
because
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
and
comments.
Your
turn,
my
turn
the
positions
in
the
jail
that
we
used
to
use
trustees,
which
we
now
have
to
use.
You
know
County
Employees,
or
are
we
Contracting
out
laundry?
Yes,
yes,
okay!
A
E
Q
Have
reserved
we
have
reserved
general
fund
dollars,
starting
in
out
by
25,
that
you
know
if
those
costs
remain
contractual
to
ensure
that
those
are
the
third.
E
Dollars
available
to
continue
those
Services
I
mean
that's
one
of
the
a
year
budget
pressures
that
you
know
we
had
configured
on
how
to
balance.
A
Out
as
well,
okay,
good
good
to
know,
I
will
call
on
you
in
a
second,
but
it's
my
turn.
I
did
a
few
things
as
far
as
the
whole
discussion.
A
The
philosophical
discussion
of
where
is
the
sheriff's
resources
to
be
concentrated
is
not
something
that's
a
finance
committee
is
I
mean
we're
a
piece
of
it,
but
it's
a
bigger
conversation
that
includes
Administration
the
share
of
Human,
Resources,
Human,
Resources,
us
and
and
I
I
guess
what
I
would
say
is
I,
we're
all
I
think
encouraging
the
sheriff's
department
to
be
as
Progressive
as
you
can
with
things
like
the
gun,
buyback
support
and
all
of
that
try
and
cut
where
you
can,
because
we
you
heard
it
from
all
of
us.
A
You
know
your
budget
just
keeps
getting
bigger,
but
I
want
us
to
remember
that
we
also
are
supporting
more
than
just
the
sheriff's
Oakland
County.
We
also
have
sheriffs
and
Pontiac
sheriffs,
and
you
know
a
lot
of
communities
are
using
sheriffs
as
their
police
department
and
that's
that's
a
that's
part
of
what's
driving
our
numbers.
So
big
I
think
you
know
if
you
were
just
doing
the
county
stuff
and
you
weren't
being
the
patrol
officer
for
other
communities.
E
A
A
C
Q
C
O
E
We
have
assistance
with
food
service
cleaning
over
the
jail
because
for
a
while
during
the
pandemic,
we
were
Contracting
that
out
as
well.
So
so
we
were
able
to
restore
trustees
in
both
of
those
areas.
Laundry
would
be
next
and
then,
depending
on
you
know.
Obviously,
we've
had
the
conversation
about
the
animal
shelter
Parks.
You
know,
Children's
Village
other
places
the
garage
they
they
used
to
function
in
many
many
areas
of
the
county
and
and
we're
just
not
there
yet
with
our
numbers.
Okay,.
A
I
want
to
remind
everybody
that
and
and
I'd
like
you
to
respond
what
those
numbers
look
like.
If
you
can,
because
the
sheriff
we
let
a
lot
of
people,
go
that
we're
the
low-level
offenders
out
of
the
jail
and
out
of
that
cycle
of
their
trustees,
and
they
can
be
used
here
and
there
because
of
covid
trying
to
reduce
the
overall
numbers,
but,
as
the
sheriff
said,
we're
only
keeping
the
people
that
we're
afraid
of
not
the
ones
that
we're
mad
at
right.
I
love
that
phrase
I
do
because
it
really
separates.
A
For
me
the
difference
between
you
know
the
two
kinds
of
offenders
and
there's
more
than
two
kinds,
but
you
know
dangerous
and
not
so
dangerous.
I.
Personally,
don't
want
us
to
us
to
the
place
where
we
are
using
free,
labor,
I.
Just
don't
I
think
it's
wrong!
I!
Think
it's
I,
think
people.
It
shows
no
respect
just
because
somebody
is
in
jail
because
they
committed
a
low-level
crime.
Doesn't
to
me
mean
they
shouldn't
be
paid.
If
they're
working,
you
know-
and
you
say
commissary
and
other
ways
that
we're
compensating
them
and
that's
good.
A
You
know
they
should
be
compensated,
I
think
so,
just
as
a
reminder,
you
know,
I
don't
want
to
see
us
go
back
to
where
we
were
using
35
40
inmates
for
free
I,
really
don't
I.
Thank
you
that
makes
us
dependent
on
a
system.
That's
not
borders
on
not
Humane.
In
my
opinion,
Okay
so
I
know
we
treat
our
people
well
and
all
of
that,
but
you
get
my
point
right.
A
How
many
of
those
kinds
of
positions
did
we
have
overall
and
what
are
we
looking
toward
getting
back
to?
You
say:
we're
kind
of
getting
crazy
in
here.
Definitely.
O
Like
yeah,
so
we're
getting
much
better
inside
the
jail
I
think
we
used
to
send
four
people
over
to
Central,
Garage
I,
believe
five,
okay
and
in
12
or
so
over
to
the
animal
shelter.
And
then
that
does
include
whatever
we
would
send
out
to
the
parks.
And,
yes,
they
do
get
some
commissary.
They
get
some.
They
get
an
extra
day
off
of
their
symptoms
for
every
12
days,
they're
a
trustee
and
know
that
they
all
volunteer.
We
don't
yeah
and
there's
other
little
privileges.
They'll
get
an
extra
visit.
O
Right
and
so
what's
it
right
now
we
just
before
covet
we
work
with
Aramark.
They
were
developing
a
into
work
program
where
the
people
that
work
in
the
kitchen
actually
get
a
certificate
when
they're
done
so
they
can
go
and
work
at
a
restaurant
they
get
there.
We
started
that
up
now,
they're
cold,
it's
Gotta,
hopefully
subsided
and
expect
to
have
a
graduating
class.
C
N
Yeah
I
was
just
curious
about
the
ServSafe.
They
don't
pay
for
that
at
all.
It's
through
their
working
yeah.
E
Chair
and
they
get
yeah.
E
Just
before
the
pandemic,
I
think
they
might
have
had
the
first
class
very
first
week
and
then
every
then
the
world
shut
down
so
that
first
class
didn't
get
an
opportunity,
and
so
now
we're
reinstating
it
and
really
excited
to
see
what
you
see,
because
it's
been
successful
areas
we're
pretty
Limited
in
the
jail,
because
it's
a
shorter
sentence.
They
have
it
in
a
lot
of
prison
systems
where
there's
longer
sentences
and
it's
you
know
they
can
even
get
a
higher
certification
and
and
then
be
employed
in
that
facility.
A
Okay,
we
are
on
the
back
to
the
third
quarter.
Yeah
Financial
forecasts
anything
else
from
anybody.
Beyond
you
get
about
five
seconds.
These.
B
Read
that
right
and
the
marijuana
tax
was
like
fifteen
hundred
percent
or
something
Economic
Development.
What
what
are
you
which,
which
figure.
I
Oh,
are
you
looking
at
the
the
percentage,
the
20.63,
so
that's
just
reflecting
that
of
their
overall
budget.
They
have
22
sizes.
G
Thank
you
and
then
the
last
thing
was
the
marijuana
tax
went
from
50K,
budgeted
to
1.1
million.
Q
A
A
Years
okay
motion
carries
thank
you
very
much
for
the
conversation
and
thank
you.
Thank
you
all
right.
Next
up
we
have
item
nine
public
health
and
safety
committee
recommendations,
starting
with
9A
fiscal
year.
2024
enter
local
agreement
with
Oakland
Community
Health
Network
for
jail
alliance.
With
support
programs
motion.
Commissioner
Smith
Charles,
supported
by
commissioner
Rahman.
A
D
A
E
The
next
one
is
2024,
so
this
is
a
new
agreement
with
ochen
for
medicated
assistant
treatment,
expansion,
so
I
think
we've
talked
about
over
the
years,
the
map
program,
which
is
for
the
opioid
use
disorders
and
prior
to
that
or
prior
to
this
agreement,
the
agreement
we
had
with
ochen
only
treated
in
County,
Oakland
County
inmates,
and
obviously
that
is
a
disparity
that
we
can
continue
so
using
the
opioid
settlement
money.
A
And
then
item
C
was
the
acceptance
of
the
fiscal
year.
2024
funds
from
the
automobile
theft,
prevention,
Authority.
E
So
this
is
our
annual
grant
for
auto
theft.
The
good
news
is
split,
went
from
50
50
up
to
60
40.,
so
everybody
60
of
it.
It's
a
grant
totaling
a
little
over
2.5
million,
and
it's
in
conjunction
with
Farmington
Hills,
Hazel,
Park,
Royal,
Oak,
Southfield,
Detroit
and
city
of
Pontiac,
and
each
participating
participating
municipality
is
responsible
for
their
own
match
portion
of
it.
Okay,
good.
E
I
think
we've
had
some
drop
in
and
out
over
the
years
kind
of,
like
our
net
have
an
officer
in
there.
Some
of
them
don't
have
the
luxury
with
the
lower
Staffing.
They
don't
have
the
luxury
of
having
somebody
they
can
place
in
a
special
unit.
I
A
All
right
any
other
questions
on
any
of
these
items,
a
b
or
c.
D
A
E
So
floor
is
yours,
okay,
so
this
is
a
new
agreement
with
Oakland
schools.
They
have
requested
to
contract
for
four
school
resource
officers.
This
is
the
agreement.
E
D
So
they'll
have
our
res
office
resource
and
they
agreed
to
the
contract
pricing
and
then
are
they
I
heard
there
are
some
I,
don't
know
disagreement?
Are
they
doing
the
dollar?
Something
on
this
officer,
too,
is
that
okay
did
that
come
out
that
that's
legal
or
not
legal,
I
think.
E
B
E
D
G
After
first
committee
does
open
schools
not
have
like
a
security
already
like
they
don't
contract
with
Securitas
or
something.
C
A
A
A
So
the
next
three
are
Health
Department
public
health
and
safety
right,
and
so
we
could,
according
to
Mr
Andrews
yeah,
commissioner
Rahman
and
supported
by
commissioner
long.
Okay.
R
So
the
three
requests
I
have
in
front
of
you.
The
first
one
is
our
comprehensive
agreement
with
the
Michigan
Department
of
Health
and
Human
Services,
or
if
you've
been
around
a
little
bit
cpbc.
We
changed
it
a
few
times
so
so
this
is
really
our
large
operational
grant.
That
runs
about
30
different
programs,
and
we
are
asking
to
accept
right
at
12
million
dollars.
R
This
is
what's
given
to
us.
We
don't
get
to
request
them,
so
they
tell
us
what
they
will
give
us
to
run
these
programs
that
we.
R
A
little
bit
more
this
year,
which
is
always
good,
but
this
also
includes
a
sub-recipient
for
force
to
run
some
of
the
external
wit
client,
our
Clinic
in
the
community,
and
we
give
them
about
604,
just
over
604
000
for
that
separate
recipient.
R
This
also,
this
does
include
53
existing
positions
that
are
are
funded
or
through
this
Grant
and
then
we're
going
to
create
three
new
ones
this
year
that
were
contracted
positions,
but
they
will
be
severity
or
not
sub
recipients.
They
will
be
special
Revenue,
County,
funded
positions,
full-time
moving
forward,
so
I
will
take
any
questions.
J
R
Okay,
great
so
the
next
one
is
our
emerging
threats
Grant.
So
this
grant
actually
started
a
few
years
ago
when
covid
started,
and
so
now
they
really
look
at
any
kind
of
emerging
threats.
So
hepatitis,
A,
right,
that's
been
in
the
news
recently.
Obviously
covet
is
a
big
one,
and
this
includes
our
Lord
we're
still
doing
some
coveted
response.
Obviously,
there's
a
new
booster,
that's
coming
out,
that's
a
monovalent
that
will
be
actually
advertising
very
soon.
You
do
not
have
it
in-house
yet.
R
This
also
includes
the
Regional
Lab
backup.
So
if
the
state
ever
needed
some
additional
testing,
if
they
had
some
equipment
down,
we
can
assist
with
that
which
is
great.
We
do.
This
is
the
sewer
project
that
we
talked
to
you
all
about.
We've
actually
brought
it
a
couple
times
now,
they're
kind
of
bumping
it
all
into
one,
and
then
this
is
any
kind
of
pfos
response.
We
may
do
to
assist
the
state.
So
this
one
we're
asking
for
a
little
over
six
million
dollars.
R
We
did
have
a
significant
cut,
just
right
at
4
million
this
year.
A
lot
of
that
was
actually
all
of
that
was
around
code,
since
we
are
kind
of
ramping
down
for
that,
and
then
the
last
one
is
our
it's
our
operational
Grant
with
eagle
or
Michigan
Department,
environmental
Great,
Lakes
and
energy,
which
is
just
under
750
000
for
fiscal
year
24,
and
that
does
go
for
the
full
period
of
October
1st
through
September
30th,
and
this
is
really
amazon.com
special
programs,
but
in
a
way
it
is.
R
This
includes
our
non-community
public
water
supply.
That's
any
commercial!
Well
that
serves
at
least
25
people
a
day,
so
some
of
your
large
corporations
that
are
still
on
Wells
and
actually
surprisingly,
we
have
over
800
in
Oakland
County
drinking
water,
our
long-term
monitoring,
so
the
state
contracts
with
us
to
go
out
and
take
samples
in
areas
of
contamination
so
that
we
can
see
how
aquifers
are
maybe
moving
some
of
that
contamination.
R
R
We
are
adding
two
new
positions
to
this.
These
were
current
contract
positions,
but
now
they
will
be
full-time
special
Revenue,
County
positions,
moving
forward.
G
Leanne
hi
I
noticed
you
so
two
questions.
You
have
you're
deleting
two
positions,
one
in
HIV
prevention,
specialist
and
second,
a
youth
suicide
team,
Suicide
Prevention
specialist.
So
can
you
talk
more
about
how
that
goes
and
then
the
second
question
is:
what
does
special
revenue
mean?
R
G
R
G
G
R
Was
this
so
PT
and
E
transform
the
public
health
educator,
transforming
youth
Suicide
Prevention
Grant?
Actually
the
state
did
not
provide
that
Grant
any
longer.
We
do
have
a
full-time
staff
that
does
injury
prevention
for
the
whole
County.
Again,
it's
not
someone,
that's
solely
focused
on
youth
suicide,
but
she
does.
You
know,
gun
violence.
She
also
does
Suicide
Prevention,
both
adults
and
children,
but
unfortunately,
because
we
don't
have
the
funding
and
we
didn't
receive
the
grant.
We
cut
that
special
Revenue
position,
saying
with
the
clinical
Health
Specialists.
R
We
had
some
HIV
money
that
was
cut,
so
we
do
have
a
full-time
clinical
health
specialist
around
HIV
prep,
but
this
was
a
ptme
position
that,
unfortunately,
we
just
didn't
have
the
funding
to
continue
to
and
they
were
both
vacant.
So
I
don't
want.
We
didn't
have
to
let
someone
go,
they
were
vacant
and
then
we
we
decided.
We
needed
to
cut
those
okay.
A
Okay:
let's
go
ahead
and
prompt
the
vote
on
items.
Nine
efng.
A
A
Sorry
about
that
I'll
support
it
yeah
and
then
Yolanda
Whiteford,
Smith,
Charles,
I'm,
sorry
about
the
same
basis.
A
I
know
I
already
do
sorry,
okay,
so
the
floor
is
yours.
P
Well,
we
went
over
some
of
the
background
this
morning,
but
we're
asking
for
approval
to
accept
a
two
million
dollar
Grant
from
medc
his
background
last
year.
The
legislature.
P
Passed
a
couple
of
bills:
it
would
provide
some
money
to
help
promote
site
development
as
well
as
funds
to
support
getting
some
major
investment
projects
and
make
us
more
competitive
with
other
states.
So
we
had
heard
in
in
November
that
we
would
be
eligible
for
two
million
dollars
or
that
we
would
receive
two
million
dollars,
but
the
paperwork
and
the
details
of
how
to
get
that
to
OK
a
while
to
come
through.
P
We
had
indicated
to
madc
that
we
would
use
if
the
bunny,
primarily
for
either
consultant
studies
to
help
understand
sites
in
Oakland
County.
That
might
be.
You
know,
to
make
them
more
Bill
ready
to
do
some
infrastructure
improvements
and
also
potentially
some
other
activities
to
attract
investment.
P
When
we
got
the
actual
form
in
April,
we
had
the
opportunity
to
choose
six
categories
to
spend
that
money
and
which
I
think
are
outlined
in
due
to
the
resolution
that
you
that
you
see
there
that
so
that
included
simulink
the
Consultants
marketing
there's
we
could
use
I,
guess
20
for
General
Administration
and
we
also
set
up
a
category
for
sub
grants
to
the
cdts
and
I
would
do
want
to
mention,
because
this
we
didn't
really
clarify
this
this
morning.
P
But
the
original
intent
was
that
we'd
use
most
of
this
money
for
smaller
projects,
which
could
include
Brownfield,
Redevelopment
and
other
kinds
of
things,
but
that
we
would
have
available
if
we
really
needed
to
push
a
larger
project,
because
we
do
have
some
money
available
for
site
development
from
other
sources
as
well.
The
state
also
after
this
I,
had
granted
on
a
population
basis,
some
money
and
DRT
at
the
Detroit.
P
Regional
partnership
is
administering
that,
but
based
on
that,
we
could
get
up
to
maybe
another
two
million
dollars
for
site
development
activities,
similar
activities,
but
it
sort
of
depends
how
that
plays
out.
But
that's
more
targeted,
larger
sort
of
larger
sites,
and
we
don't
only
have
two,
although
we
have
some
potential
to
you
know,
maybe
put
some
smaller
packages
together
but
anyway.
So
that's
our
request
for
today
and
there
we've
we
we
now
need
to.
P
A
I
P
Was
that
I
mean
that
project.
P
Division
of
Volkswagen,
head
project
and
medc
had
given
them
an
offer
for
that
project,
and
so
we
had
indicated
that
we
might
be
able
to
put
some
money
for
site
development
site
development
on
that
project.
That
project
actually
went
to
another
state.
It
went
to
South
Carolina,
however
I
just
heard
last
night,
and
perhaps
that's
back
on
the
table,
so
we'll
see
in
a
different
form
in
a
different
yeah.
P
So
that
would
be
an
example
of
something
that
you
that
that
was
in
the
medc
offer
that
was
submitted.
You
know.
I
Previously,
but
well,
the
only
reason
I
mentioned
is:
if
we
do
decide
to
pursue
one
of
the
bigger
projects,
will
there
be
enough
left
over
even
with
a
grant
matching
program
from
the
cbts?
This
was
only
a
very
small
amount
that
we
would
put
into
this.
It
was
just
a
token
to
show
the
County's
account
is
commitment.
Okay,
I
just
wasn't
sure
if
it
was
taking
the
Lion's
Share
of
that
two
million.
P
L
For
one
reason
and
to
your
point,
the
the
concern
for
us
is
that
the
you
know
two
million
dollars
doesn't
spread
out
very
far
among
62
cities,
Villages
and
townships,
if
we
average
that
out
it's
roughly
thirty
two
thousand
dollars
per
Community.
If
we
were
to
fund
one
project
in
each
community,
so
we
have
talked
about
a
a
ceiling
of
around
75
000
for
these
projects,
and
we
do
feel
that
focusing
on
Redevelopment
Focus,
you
know
efforts
would
be
a
better
use.
L
A
H
L
Put
the
word
out:
that
is
our
plan.
Yes,
so
we
we
convened
a
a
group
of
individuals
from
the
Department,
so
folks
from
our
planning,
our
business
development,
our
Brownfield
Authority
and
also
the
administration
to
work
on
what
that
program
could
look
like
what
the
alcohol
could
look
like,
based
on
the
guidelines
from
the
state
that
team
is
working
diligently
on
that
and
we'll
take
the
next
step
after
this
grant.
Acceptance
is
approved.
L
The
other
thing
that
we've
done
is
we
put
our
business
development
folks
out
and
have
them
talk
into
communities
from
Groveland
to
Southfield,
trying
to
figure
out
what
the
projects
look
like,
what
the
cost
could
be,
what
the
activities
that
they
would
like
to
see
paid
for
would
look
like
and
what
that
match
would
look
like
from
private
investors
or
other
sources,
and
then
we've
also
got
our
internal
teams
working
on
mapping
out
these
projects
these
sites
across
the
county.
So
we
have
a
ready
inventory,
an
understanding
of
what
the
project
sites
look
like.
L
So,
even
if
we
can't
fund
it
with
these
dollars
in
the
future,
we
know
what's
out
there.
What
the
state
of
those
projects
are.
Those
sites
are
for
future
purposes
and
then
one
of
the
other
things
that
we
have
done
is
work
on
in
our
fiscal
year,
24
budget
putting
for
some
dollars
so
that
we
can
move
some
of
these
available
sites
onto
our
website.
So
site,
selectors
developers
and
communities
know
where
to
go
to
promote
them,
and
you
know
their
resource
and.
P
Well,
they
have
a
program,
it's
called
the
VIP
program,
and
so
we
have
several
sites
on
that
already
and
then
we're
adding
additional
sites
off
I,
think
we've,
given
them
a
list
of
smaller
smaller
sites
and
so
they're
hoping
to
get
about
50
sites
on
their
on
their
website.
So
we're
hoping
to
get
quite
a
few
from
Oakland
County
on
there,
so
those
particular
sites
may
be
opportunities,
certainly
to
get
money
from
the
DRP
side.
Maybe
that's
even
something
that
we
might
want
to
add
additional
support
for
depending
upon
the
situation.
Okay,
thank
you.
G
So
the
six
categories
in
the
resolution-
those
are
those
are
just
kind
of
placeholder
numbers,
except
probably
the
Advent,
because.
P
P
P
P
Construction,
that's
on
consultant
might
be
doing
an
environmental
assessment,
just
a
a
plan
of
what
needs
to
be
done
to
the
site
to
make
it
build
ready,
whereas
the
construction
is
actually
falling
through
and
implementing
the
recommendations.
Okay,.
G
P
The
would
I
don't
know
what
the
VW
example
was
earlier.
It
sounds
like
it
was
a
big
site,
but
you're
saying
you
want
to
focus.
That
was
a
site
that
was
supposed
to
be
actually
in
Pleasant
Ridge,
so
they
were
looking
at
Pleasant
Bridges,
it's
an
opportunity
and
unfortunately
it
seems
to
fall
on
time.
But
there's
we
are
now
hearing
that
it
might
be
looking
at
something
else
so
and.
P
Something
like
what
is
the:
what
does
this
look
like
I?
Think
in
that,
in
that
particular
case,
we
said
if
they
needed
some
assessments,
for
you
know,
site
development
analysis,
so
that
was
more
of
a
Consulting
okay,
yeah,
okay,.
L
Ideally,
our
our
portion
of
the
funding
provided
would
be
75,
000
or
less
that's
just
a
working
Theory
right
now.
We
have
to
have
more
conversations
with
communities
to
figure
out
what
types
of
projects
they
would
want
to
embark
on.
So
we
know
what's
a
relevant
amount
of
money,
what
could
be
impactful
but
again
that
goes
to
our
concern
about
the
limited
number
of
funds
available.
Does.
G
Does
someone
like
Volkswagen,
for
example,
just
has
a
big
company
I
tell
you,
is
that
sort
of
Mount
attract
them
right
if
they
got
75
000?
No,
no!
No.
P
These
companies
are
very
interested
in
seeing
the
commitment
and
of
local
governments
to
help
them
to
make
sure
the
permitting
moves
smoothly
to
make
sure,
and
so
that
they're
looking
at
signals
from
the
local
local
government
that
they're
supportive
of
the
project
and
they're
be
willing
to
help
them.
So
it's
more
along
that
lines.
So
that's
why
we
think
that
money
is
actually
more
useful
for
the
smaller
projects,
but
sometimes
the
signaling
can
be
helpful.
So.
G
Okay,
then,
one
last
one
last
question:
if
it's
okay
yeah
hit
anything
like
there's,
no,
like
I,
guess
return
on
this
investment
right,
whether
it's
dollars
or
somehow
in
kind
of
right.
It's
kind
of
like
we.
P
We
particular
case
they
were
promising
500
jobs
and
so
that
that
that
would
be
a
case
where
we
would
be
getting
the
tax
revenue,
okay,
yeah,
the
property,
yeah
property,
tax
and
other
kinds
of
things.
So
we
would
be
getting
a
return
for
the
county.
D
E
A
A
We
have
Eli
Cooper
on
the
screen
with
us.
Welcome.
J
Good
afternoon
and
I
know
time
is
short,
so
I'm
going
to
move
quickly.
The
item
for
you
is
a
recommendation
for
budget
amendment
to
retain
a
contractor
consultant
to
do
community
transit
planning
and
organizational
development
at
the
level
of
550
000
dollars.
The
planning
is
technical
work
in
terms
of
projecting
future
ridership.
J
The
organizational
development
is
to
work
with
our
community
transit
Partners
so
that
they
can
develop
their
organizations
to
be
positioned
to
accommodate
the
projected
growth
that
comes
out
of
the
planning
part
of
the
study,
and
it
will
all
be
part
of
a
large
public
engagement
program
where
we'll
be
working
with
local
officials,
our
local
Partners,
to
both
supplement
and
confirm
the
technical
analysis
and
to
make
sure
that
we
know
where
people
want
to
go
that
we're
not
just
working
with
transit
authorities
to
deliver
service
where
mapping
analysis
says.
J
G
G
How
does
that
come
into
your
Consciousness
I
know
you're
gonna
contract
with
someone
to
then
get
a
better
take
on
senior
issues
and
other
things,
but
you
put
it
in
here
for
a
reason.
So
please.
J
Yeah
well
so
the
current
service
providers
have
a
emphasis
on
what's
called
specialty.
Transportation
senior
Mobility
disabled
Mobility
are
their
primary
targets
today
and
so
they're
one
of
the
key
variables
in
forecasting
future
ridership.
J
It's
not
that
there's
a
particular
issue
except
it's
important
to
know
and
I've
heard
the
expression
a
great
tsunami
in
Oakland
County.
So
we
do
have
the
the
senior
population
is
more
frequent.
Users
of
transit
services
and
the
senior
population
is
expanding
faster
than
the
general
population,
as
we
look
at
the
next
couple
of
decades.
So
it
is
of
key
interest
in
this
program
area.
A
If
nobody
has
any
other
questions,
let's
go
ahead
and
prompt
the
vote.