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B
A
To
the
republic
for
which
it
stands,
one
nation,
under
god,
indivisible
with
liberty
and
justice
for
all
right.
I
need
a
motion
for
the
approval
of
the
minutes
from
june
23rd
to
june
30th,
commissioner,
kowal
supported
by
commissioner
mcgilvary.
A
A
Okay,
what
just
to
have
that
conversation
that
we
were
having
before
the
meeting
about?
Do?
We
want
to
have
it
at
noon
or
11,
but
it
it
needs
to
be
an
agenda
item
we
can
vote
on
so
we're
just
going
to
do
it
under
other
business.
Okay,
okay,.
C
A
All
right
so
nice.
A
A
We
have
one.
Would
you
come
to
the
end
down
here
and
state
your
name
for
us
good
morning
good
afternoon.
E
E
E
E
It
seems
that
an
assignment
got
converted
to
an
appropriation
or
back
and
forth
somehow
that
day
everything
changed
from
an
assignment
to
an
appropriation
very
suddenly
and
without
any
public
notice,
and
without
any
consideration
for
what
maybe,
what
the
citizens
would
like
to
have
done
with
this
huge
amount
of
money
that's
being
spent
here,
I
am
so
concerned
with
the
way
the
federal
government
has
assigned
how
this
money
is
to
be
spent
to
expand
government
which
does
not
create
tax
and
revenues.
It's
a
negative
for
our
economy.
E
Foolishly,
in
my
opinion,
I
really
think
it's
very
concerning
how
our
society
is
turning
into
a
welfare
state
and
people
are
being
taught
that
they
don't
have
the
option
and
the
opportunity
to
have
freedom
and
the
opportunity
to
make
their
own
business
or
sustain
it.
I'm
very
concerned
with
how
much
welfare
is
being
paid
for
people
to
stay
home
instead
of
having
giving
them
incentives
and
training
to
get
a
better
job.
E
I'm
very
concerned
about
the
just
the
fiscal
reality
of
the
inflation
that's
being
created
by
the
government
because
of
the
wasteful
spending
and
by
this
board
I
were
increasing
so
much
in
long-term
permanent
costs
like
salaries
and
fringes,
they're
not
going
to
go
away
when
this
boom
of
fiscal
money
dries
up.
We'll
still
have
that
cost
and
to
welcome.
E
I
know
there's
so
much
welcoming
to
the
refugees
and
immigrants
and
I'm
all
for
illegal
immigration,
but
the
way
things
are
doing
happening
right
now
is
very
dangerous
to
our
entire
country,
and
I'm
also
concerned,
because
there's
a
lot
of
spending
of
funds
that
I'm
not
sure
are
actually
appropriate
to
be
spent
on
non-citizens
like
the
hud.
The
letter
that
I
found
that
was
not
included
specifically
states.
All
the
hud
grant
money
is
only
allowed
to
be
spent
on
citizens.
E
So
I'm
very
concerned
that
I've
heard
comments
in
other
meetings
that
all
the
all
these
money
are
available
to
help
the
immigrants
referee,
refugees
and
although
I
totally
support
legal
immigration,
I
am.
I
am
very
aware
of
how
dangerous
the
current
process
is
in
particular,
because
I'm
a
bilingual
and
I've
spent
a
lot
of
time
and
know
a
lot
of
people
who
live
in
those
regions
that
are
being
brought
up
here.
They
are
controlled
by
the
cartels
very
much.
E
A
A
A
Thank
you
for
that
clarification
and
I
apologize
for
my
naive,
no
state.
Okay.
So
all
in
favor
of
accepting
the
communications
receiving
and
filing
say,
aye
aye
opposed,
say,
communications
have
been
received
and
filed
with
that.
We
will
move
on
to
the
regular
agenda.
First
item
is
the
sheriff's
office
2021
snowmobile
law
enforcement
program
grant
application.
F
Good
afternoon,
madam
chair
and
committee
members,
thank
you
excuse
me.
Of
course,
you
know
gaia,
we're
applying
for
a
grant
of
around
70,
so
a
little
over
seventy
thousand
dollars
for
the
dnr
we
have.
I
did
have
four
snowmobiles
in
the
fleet
at
the
marine
division
marine
unit.
This
will
replace
two
older
snowmobiles
that
we
auctioned
off
last
year,
if
we're
successful
in
the
grant
plus
buy
some
helmets
and
some
patrol
time
we're
eligible
for
this
grant,
because
pontiac
lake
state
park
has
84
miles
of
trails
that
are
state
trails.
F
In
addition
to
that,
these
could
be
used
for
rescues
during
the
winter
time
where
we
have.
Maybe
somebody
lost
in
the
snow
when
the
snow
is
real
deep.
If
we
get
a
lot
of
snow
or
we
get
a
little
bit
of
snow
versus,
maybe
using
a
quad
runner
if
the
snow's
deep,
so
it'll
be
multi-purpose
again
if
we're
successful,
this
is
just
an
application,
and
if
anybody
has
any
questions
happy
to
answer
them.
G
Commissioner
coldwell,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
Yes,
just
relative
to
the
marine
safety
grants.
How
does
this
compare
because
they're
talking?
Okay?
So
we
have
how
many
miles
here
like
83.4
miles
of
trails
and,
of
course,
in
3
700
acres,
but
the
funding
that
we
get
to
cover.
I
don't
know
how
many
acres
of
lakes
in
oakland
county,
I'm
sure,
if
you're
considering
well.
F
F
B
Okay,
thank
you.
That's
it.
Thank
you,
commissioner,
commissioner
mcgilbray.
Thank
you
man
question.
We
have
our
new
orb
park
out
in
holley
and
there
will
be
snowmobiles
out
there.
As
I
understand
here,
that
was
the
original
plan.
Will
they
be
able
to
be
used
out
there.
F
Point,
sir,
that
is
correct:
we'd
be
able
to
use
them
in
the
county
parks
and
that
being
a
county
park.
We
anticipate
a
large
volume
going
in
there.
The
parks
has
expanded.
I
mean
we
do
patrol
that
now
we
have
deputies
assigned
there
and
that's
a
good
point.
Yes,
sir,
the
answer
that
question
is
yes,.
D
A
question
in
regards
to
auctioning
off
the
two
I
just
wanted
to
know:
what
did
we
kind
of
ballpark
get
from
the
two
that.
J
F
A
All
right,
no
other
questions.
Please
call
the
roll.
B
C
B
A
I
Good
morning,
commissioners,
good
afternoon,
paul
zachos
property
manager
with
facilities,
I'm
joined
with
amy
kluth,
the
chief
engineer
of
wrc-
and
this
is
a
review
of
a
lease
expires
this
year
and
the
water
units
or
the
wrc
is
operates
out
of
that
location.
I
Wrc
administration
wanted
to
continue
at
that
location
and
work
out
landlord
diaco
to
provide
another
five-year
lease.
So
I'd
like
to
board
to
approve
this
lease,
which
goes
for
five
years
now,
the
the
lease
is
considered
a
grossly.
So
the
payments
include
cam
taxes,
insurance,
snow
ice
removal
and
some
other
minor
services,
and
that
kind
of
thing,
so
the
synergy
at
that
location
is
great
because
it's
health
service,
wrc's
one
of
the
customers,
of
course,
is
farmington
hills.
I
G
K
Sure
they
excuse
me
morning,
good
afternoon,
yeah,
the
the
lease.
B
G
J
Just
a
comment,
commissioner,
charles,
so
as
most
of
you
know,
this
came
through
edi
this
morning
and
some
of
the
questions
that
were
posed
were,
you
know
very
enlightening
just
in
terms
of
how
many
of
these
types
of
storage
spaces
that
we
have
at
the
southern
portion
of
the
county
and
then
understanding
that
there
were
going
to
be
no
chemical
problems
with
storage.
So
there's
no
storage
of
chemicals.
This
is
just
pipes,
as
we
were
told
and
other
types
of
things
for
water,
so
just
wanted
to
share
that
too.
J
A
You,
commissioner,
charles
anyone
else,
seeing
no
one,
let's
call
the
roll.
I
M
M
I
think
she
she's
with
children's
village
as
well
and
monville,
who
is
our
deputy
court
administrator
for
the
circuit
court,
we're
here
to
seek
your
approval
to
submit
the
fy
2022
child
care
fund
budget
to
the
state
of
michigan,
as
you
can
infer
by
listening
to
the
it's,
a
very
collaborative
effort
between
the
county
executive
offices,
the
circuit
court,
the
children's
village
and
the
state
and
local
mdhhs
offices,
the
child
care
fund's
a
special
funding
arrangement
between
the
county
and
the
state
it
was
established
by
statute
and
whereby
child
care
costs
are
shared
at
a
50-50
arrangement.
M
The
funding
is
to
support
placement
costs,
as
well
as
programming
costs
for
for
use
in
both
child
protective
proceeding
cases,
as
well
as
delinquency
cases.
All
the
costs
are
for
youth
that
are
under
the
circuit
court's
jurisdiction.
Only
up
until
last
year
the
county
always
paid
a
hundred
percent
of
the
cost
of
care,
and
then
the
state
would
reimburse
the
county
50
and
then
the
state
pays.
First
legislation
was
enacted
and
now
for
child
protective
proceeding
cases,
only
the
state
pays
100
of
those
costs
first
and
then
the
county
reimburses
50
percent
for
delinquency.
M
It's
still
the
same
as
the
county
still
pays
the
100
percent,
and
then
the
state
reverses
50.
So
it's
it
can
be
a
little
confusing,
but
but
we've
got
it
under
control
for
purposes
of
the
plan
and
budget.
M
The
costs
are
broken
down
into
three
categories:
there's
facility
costs,
which
is
basically
our
children's
village,
and
that
represents
about
80
percent
of
the
budget
and
then
there's
the
out
of
home
care
placement
costs
and
private
institutions,
which
is
about
10
of
the
budget
and
then
finally,
there's
the
in-home
care
programs
that
represent
about
10
of
the
budget
as
well.
M
The
in-home
care
programs
are
designed
by
the
court
and
with
the
intent
to
keep
the
the
youth
in
their
homes
and
in
the
communities
rather
than
having
to
place
them
in
the
much
more
expensive
out
of
home
care
settings
so
bottom
line
for
for
this
year,
fy
2022,
the
the
budget
plan
reflects
gross
expenditures
of
31
million,
with
the
net
expenditures
of
about
27
million.
They
both
represent
a
decrease
of
about
two
percent
from
last
year's
submission,
and
all
these
expenditures
are
already
baked
into
the
the
county.
M
Executives
recommend
county
executive's
recommended
budget
they're,
just
packaged
a
little
bit
differently
for
this
submission
to
the
state.
A
Commissioner,
charles.
J
J
Ihc
funds
shall
not
be
used
to
meet
the
court
staff
to
youth
population
ratio
of
one
to
six
thousand
in
the
parameters
of
what's
legal,
can
you
share
how
many,
in
terms
of
it
doesn't
have
to
be
an
exact
but
a
ballpark
of
how
many
youngsters
are
being
serviced
in
a
in-home
care
capacity?.
M
Yeah
we
typically
have
anywhere
in
a
typical
year.
I
should
say
back
in
maybe
fiscal
year,
18
or
19.
We
would
probably
service
close
to
four
500
youth
in
our
in-home
care
programs.
J
Okay,
because
I
was
really
concerned
at
one
to
six
thousand
like
that's
a
one
to
many
for
sure,
and
that
would
seem
to
be
where
we
would
be
overlooking
youngsters
so
one
to
five.
Is
it
one
to
five
hundred
in
terms
of.
M
Well,
we
can
only
we
can
only
care
have
all
the
services
must
be
intensive
services
when
we're
using
in-home
care
programs,
so
they
have
to
be
less
than
one
to
twenty.
A
D
C
M
B
M
D
Yes,
ma'am
to
you
on
with
the
last
thing
we
just
and
so
is
it
this
budget
that
they're
providing
us
that
says
it's
27
million.
This
is
like
the
overall
whole
state,
or
is
this
just.
C
A
All
right.
Next
item
of
business
is
number
four
friend
of
the
court
fiscal
year
2022
to
fiscal
year,
2023
cooperative
reimbursement
program,
crp,
grant
amendment
moved
by
commissioner
charles
supported
by
commissioner
mcgilbray.
A
L
Thank
you,
I'm
suzanne
holliger,
I'm,
the
friend
of
the
court
director
and
I've
brought
with
me
here
today:
markeisha
washington,
who's,
my
counterpart
in
the
prosecutor's
office
she'll
be
coming
with
the
same
contract
extension
shortly,
but
I
just
thought,
since
we
do
kind
of
share
this
same
source
of
revenue,
that
I
would
bring
her
along
today
to
see
what
this
is
like.
So
this
is
just
an
extension
of
our
contract
that
funds
all
of
our
child
support
operations
in
the
county.
L
We
are
just
ending
right
now,
a
five-year
contract,
and
this
just
extends
the
contract.
For
two
more
years
the
the
state
has
exercised
both
of
its
one-year
options
to
extend
the
contract
at
the
same
time,
so
they're
just
extending
our
five-year
contract
for
another
two
years,
so
we'll
continue
providing
the
same
services
that
we
have
been
providing
and
the
state
will
continue
to
fund
our
operations
at
about
the
they
fund
about
66
and
we
fund
34.
J
So
again,
I'm
outside
of
my
wheelhouse
a
little
bit,
but
I
guess
my
concern
is
you
know,
approving
and
basically
attaching
ourselves
to
something
where
we
may
not
get
the
full
amount
budgeted.
I
know
when
they
go
through
their
budget.
They
decide
to
take
things
out
and
move
things
around.
So
do
we
have
any
precedence
for
that
just
historically,
yes,.
L
We
do
yeah
I
can.
I
can
speak
to
that.
I've
been
in
this
role
now
for
18
years
and
that's
not
happened.
This
is
federal
money,
it's
a
pass-through
by
the
state,
so
it's
part
of
the
big
federal
budget
that's
allocated
to
the
states,
it's
actually
uncapped,
so
as
much
as
we
feel
that
we
need
to
spend
the
state
will
match
that
66
so
that
we
can
conduct
our
operations.
So
it's
it's
one
of
the.
L
I
think
two
remaining
uncapped
entitlement
programs
in
the
federal
budget
and
there
is
no
history
of
them
not
being
able
to
fund
us
if,
for
some
reason
we
could
not
be
funded,
that
would
actually
impact
the
whole
child
support
operation
for
the
whole
county
right.
Every
single
position
in
my
office
is
funded
through
this.
This
grant
process.
L
N
Good
afternoon,
commissioners,
yes,
this
is
a
part
of
our
radio
project
and
this
is
an
existing
tower
site,
an
existing
lease
that
we
have
road
commission
property
and
we're
just
looking
to
extend
that
lease
with
an
amendment
here
for
the
new
radio
system
that
will
be
going
in
next
year.
N
I
will
double
check.
Typically,
these
leases
are
like
for
a
dollar.
If
that's
not
listed
in
the
lease
I
will
find
out
and
get
back
to
you.
Okay,.
A
Thank
you,
okay.
Anybody
else
have
any
comments
or
questions.
I
A
N
Thank
you,
commissioners.
So
these
are
part
of
our
standard.
I
t
service
agreements,
we
have
a
couple
hundred
of
these
and
and
they
have
a
five-year
expiration,
so
we
at
a
minimum
confirm
one
that
we
are
still
providing
the
services
and
two
that
the
entity
wants
to
continue
those
services.
N
So
these
are
all
renewals
and
they
are
all
with
out-of-county
organizations,
non-non-county,
cvts
or
entities.
So
in
most
cases
these
are
for
klemis
services
and
in
in
some
cases
with
clemis.
It
includes
the
network
connectivity
for
them
and
you'll
see
also
in
the
table.
The
summary
table
there's
a
couple
presque
isle
county
and
was
the
other
coopersville,
the
city
of
coopersville
out
near
grand
rapids.
J
Do
we
capture
any
I'm,
drawing
a
blank
on
the
correct
word,
but
any
feedback
from
these
communities
like
middle
of
the
contract
into
the
contract,
just
to
see,
what's,
like
a
swot
analysis,
almost
what's
working,
what
could
be
improved.
N
So
we
do
have
folks
for
each
of
the
services
in
the
it
service
agreement
portfolio.
We
have
separate
what
what
you
might
call
a
customer
relationship
manager.
N
N
We
with
with
other
products,
for
example
the
over-the-counter
and
online
payments,
those
those
may
have
less
frequent
contact
and
we
may
only
get
involved.
If
there's
you
know,
changes
in
our
service
from
our
end
or
if
they
have
questions
about
the
service.
So
there's
not
a
specific
swot
analysis
as
you've
indicated
or
asked
about,
but
it
does
vary
with
the
product,
how
much
interaction
they
might
have
our
gis
services
and
our
data
sharing
services.
N
A
Thank
you,
commissioners.
Anybody
else,
okay,
seeing
no
one,
please
call
the
roll.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
tim
and
moving
on
to
item
number
seven,
the
board
of
commissioners
revised
fund
balance
policy
for
the
general
fund.
Today
we
have
sean
carlson
and
kyle
jenn
to
make
a
presentation
to
us.
O
Right,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
committee
for
for
allowing
us
to
present
some
information
to
you
today,
we're
here
to
ask
for
a
change
in
the
fund
balance
policy
to
strengthen
the
fund
balance
policy.
O
I'm
going
to
kick
things
off
we're
here
in
the
spirit
of
fiscal
responsibility
and
I'll,
take
the
first
couple
of
slides
and
then
kyle
will
do
the
heavy
lifting
here.
So
so
the
first
slide
there,
everybody
have
it
and
we'll
go
to
the
next
screen,
page
two
and
slide
deck
overarching
goals.
So
let
me
just
kind
of
touch
base
on
on
a
few
things
here,
number
one.
O
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
establishing
an
appropriate
minimum
fund
balance
level
to
protect
the
continuity
of
critical
services
to
our
county
residents
against
economic
and
other
risk
without
a
need
to
increase
revenues.
I
think
that's
important
to
state
also
number
two
more
clearly
delineate
what
portions
of
the
fund
balance
are
reserved
for
which
purposes
rainy
day
versus
strategic
investments.
O
Provide
more
specific
guidelines
for
when
the
fund
balance
below
minimum
level
can
be
used
during
an
economic
downturn
or
replenishing
the
fund.
Balance
four
ensure
consistent
annual
review
and
evaluation
of
spending
proposals
by
both
county
executive
administration
and
the
board
of
commissioners
prior
to
the
expenditure
of
taxpayer
funds
and
then
number
five
which
is
important
is
protect
the
county's
financial
position
and
our
triple
a
bond
rating.
O
It
formalized
long-standing
county
policy
of
maintaining
a
general
fund
balance
equal
to
at
least
20
percent
of
the
annual
general
fund
general
purpose
expenditures,
which
amounts
to
about
two
months.
O
H
H
This
this
term
ongoing,
fits
in
you
know
with
our
goal,
to
get
to
get
to
a
structurally
balanced
budget
where
our
ongoing
base
operational
costs
in
terms
of
personnel
costs.
Other
other
related
costs
that
are
necessary
for
ongoing
county
services.
F
H
H
Thank
you
all
right.
Well,
thank
you.
Sean,
it's
good
to
be
here,
it's
nice
to
to
finally
see
all
of
you
in
person
after
being
on
board
for
the
last
six
months,
and
lots
of
zoom
calls
so
this
this
next
slide
here
is
a
snapshot.
You
know
we
tried
to
step
back.
You
know
it's
been
five
years
or
or
rather
six
years
since
the
fund
balance
policy
was
adopted.
We
thought
it
was
a
good,
a
good
time
to
to
step
back.
Do
some
additional
analysis
and
look
at
areas.
H
We
could
strengthen
the
policy,
so
we
tried
to
take
a
global
look
at
all
of
our
all
of
our
major
county
general
fund
revenue
sources,
all
of
our
expenditure
categories.
What
are
our
risks
that
that
are
out
there
and
what
are
our
positives
in
terms
of
financial
stability,
so
this
table?
I
won't
go
through
this
line
by
line,
but
it
gives
you
a
sense
of
the
things
we
looked
at.
Obviously
that
second
line
there
property
tax
revenue
is
our
is
our
highest.
H
So
you
know
that
was
part
of
our
evaluation.
You
know.
Obviously,
state
revenue
sharing
is
always
a
factor,
although
it's
a
relatively
limited
portion
of
our
budget.
At
this
point
you
know,
charges
for
services
are
designed
to
be
one
for
one
in
terms
of
of
the
revenue
paying
for
the
service
and
then
we're
obviously
in
great
shape
in
terms
of
retirement
costs
and
debt
costs.
So
the
next
slide
you
know,
gives
you
the
history
on
property
tax
revenues.
H
You
know
you
can
see
a
steady,
strong
growth
in
the
90s
and
even
through
the
recession
of
2001
and
then
the
major
dip
after
the
great
recession.
In
terms
of
dollar
magnitude,
you
can
see
from
the
peak
to
the
lowest
point
we
lost
about
66
million
dollars
per
year.
Then
you
can
see
the
growth
you
know
as
we've
bounced
back
over
the
last
10
years
and
then
the
the
growth
we're
projecting
out
over
the
next
five
years.
H
So
on
the
next
slide,
here's
the
specifics
on
what
we're
proposing
you
know.
We
think
it
makes
sense
to
increase
the
minimum
fund
balance
level
from
20
percent
to
25
percent
as
sean
noted.
That
would
be
equal
to
three
months
of
operating
revenue
so
as
opposed
to
the
government
finance
officers
association
recommendation
of
two
months
you
know
and
and
that
association
recommends
that
you
look
at
your
own
unique
circumstances
as
you
craft,
a
policy,
and
we
think
you
know
going
a
full
month
above
the
two
months
makes
sense
in
oakland
county's
situation.
H
H
You
know
we
want
to
add
a
provision
that
that
adds
a
level
of
protection
to
say
we're
only
going
to
access
that
rainy
day
fund.
You
know
the
amount
below
the
25
if
we
have
a
significant
reduction
in
revenue
equal
to
at
least
five
percent
and
in
absent
that
we're
going
to
leave
the
rainy
day
fund
untouched,
above
above
the
25
percent,
which
is
really
designed
to
deal
with
economic
and
revenue
risk.
We
think
it
makes
sense.
We
know
there
are
other
risks
out
there.
H
So
we
we
think
it
makes
sense
to
add
another
five
percent
there
for
non-economic
risks
and
get
us
to
a
target
level
of
30
percent
any
amount.
Then
above
the
30
percent.
You
know
there
are
some
provisions
in
the
current
fund
balance
policy
around
around
one-time
investments
out
of
fund
balance.
We
want
to
strengthen
those
provisions.
H
H
You
know,
and
we
think
those
things
should
run
through
the
annual
budget
process,
rather
than
happening
through
a
year-end
fund
balance
assignment
and
then
finally,
you
know
there's
currently
a
requirement
that
if
the
fund
balance
does
drop
below
the
minimum
level
during
an
economic
downturn
that
we
adopt
a
plan
to
get
it
back
up
to
that
level
within
five
years,
which
we
think
makes
absolute
sense
to
continue
the
next
slide.
H
You
know
kind
of
provides
a
visualization
on
on
what
I
just
said
that,
hopefully,
you
know
makes
it
a
little
clearer
we're
using
some
round
numbers
here
just
to
make
the
math
a
little
easier.
But
these
are
you
know
these
are
the
approximate
magnitudes
if
we
assume
a
projected
fund
balance
of
250
million.
H
Our
current
ongoing
general
fund
expenditures
are
about
480
million,
so
that
25
amount
for
the
rainy
day
fund
would
would
be
about
120
million
dollars
that
we
would
hold
to
be
used
only
in
in
the
case
of
a
downturn
in
the
economy
and
revenues.
H
The
the
the
five
percent
for
other
risks
would
be
about
24
million
dollars,
so
that
would
get
us
to
a
target
level
over
the
long
term
of
144
million
dollars,
so
the
amount
above
that
would
then
be
available
for
for
one-time
strategic
investments
based
on
the
numbers.
Here,
that's
about
a
hundred
million
dollars.
The
one
thing
I
would
flag
here.
You
know
that
we've
talked
about
previously
and
we're
still
waiting
for
a
decision
on
is
the
rafaeli
case
related
to
you
know,
foreclosures
and
the
excess
value
of
those
houses.
H
You
know
that
we
could
incur
incur
in
additional
liability
of
30
million
dollars
above
the
10
million
dollars.
That's
already
been
been
booked,
so
that
would
lower
the
amount
in
that
third
box.
There
is
a
current
fund
balance
assignment
for
that
30
million
dollars,
but
I
just
want
to
be
clear
about
that
that
we're
watching
that
closely
and
certainly
we'll
make
sure
we
are
prepared
to
deal
with
that
if
the
decision
is
not
in
our
favor.
D
H
Correct,
if
the
decision
is
that
the
that
the
previous
decision
applies
retroactively,
the
estimated
you
know,
the
estimated
liability
for
the
county
is
about
40
million
dollars.
We
had
already
booked
a
liability
of
10
million
dollars
with
the
fiscal
year
20
budget,
so
that
would
be
an
increase
of
30
million.
H
All
right,
moving
on
to
the
next
slide,
you
know
we
took
a
look
at
at
the
priority
areas
for
one-time
strategic
investments.
I
won't,
I
won't
read
these
in
detail,
but
you
can
see
they're
consistent
with,
I
think
you
know
the
goals
that
have
been
established
by
the
administration
and
the
board
for
the
county.
H
You
know
a
couple
of
of
concrete
examples
that
are
that
are
on
our
radar
up
front.
You
know
one
would
be
we're
we're
in
the
process
of
having
an
outside
consultant,
evaluate
the
county,
campus
and
facilities
and
take
a
look
at
you
know
an
opportunity
to
potentially
consolidate
facilities,
reduce
footprint,
reduce
energy
costs.
You
know
so
that
would
be
an
example
of
something
where
there
would
be
a
one-time
upfront
cost,
with
a
return
on
investment
for
county
operations
and
financial
savings
from
from
reduced
energy
usage
and
so
forth.
H
So
that
really
fits
the
first
bullet
and
the
third
bullet
around
around
energy
sustainability
and
then,
secondly,
on
the
technology
side,
you
know
we
know
there
are
there.
Are
technology
needs
out
there?
You
know
kind
of
at
the
top
of
our
radar
in
terms
of
potential
cost.
Is
that
the
circuit
court,
you
know,
has
a
has
a
pretty
archaic
case
management
system.
H
That's
due
to
be
replaced
and
you'll
hear
more
about
that
next
week
with
the
budget
presentation
that
we
want
to
move
forward
with
an
rfp
process
and
look
at
what
the
costs
are
there.
So
those
are
a
couple
of
the
concrete
examples
you
know
I
would
emphasize
a
couple
things.
You
know
any
one-time
investments
that
would
be
funded
out
of
fund
balance.
You
know
the
administration
would
insist,
have
documented
long-term
return
on
investment.
H
You
know
those
would
be
brought
to
the
board
once
once
the
administration
has
vetted
them
for
for
review
and
approval
on
your
end.
You
know
we
want
to
do
this
through
the
regular
budget
process.
I
would
just
emphasize
that
point
again
and
then.
Secondly,
you
know
this
is
not
something
we'd
be
looking
at
at
spending
down
fund
balance
overnight.
H
Last
last
chart
here
you
know
this
is
a
history
on
our
general
fund
balance.
You
can
see
how
it's
grown.
You
know,
as
we
came
out
of
the
great
recession
and
has
bounced
around
that
250
million
dollar
figure.
You
know
the
green
line.
There
reflects
our
updated
five-year
plan
that
we'll
talk
about
more
next
week
with
the
budget.
H
You
know
to
stabilize
the
the
fund
balance
at
that
250
million
dollar
figure,
as
we
drive
towards
structural
balance,
to
account
for
the
cost
of
the
compensation
plan
that
was
implemented
and
other
spending
factors
you
know
so
this
reflects
stabilizing
prior
to
any
one-time.
Investments
does
not
account
for
rafaeli
at
this
point.
H
So
again,
I
would
just
flag
that
which
is
listed
in
the
notes
at
right
and
then
and
then
you
can
see
those
three
flat
lines
are
roughly
flat
because
because
they
would
grow
with
the
size
of
the
budget,
you
know
show
what
the
current
policy
says
for
the
20
percent
minimum,
the
the
increase
we
would
make
to
the
25
and
then
the
30
target
above
that,
so
you
know
that's
that
that
roughly
150
million
dollars
that
would
be
our
target
to
maintain
over
the
long
term.
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
for
this
presentation.
I
think
it's
very
encouraging
that
we're
creating
a
little
bit
more
of
a
I
guess
of
a
margin
there
for
whatever
might
be
coming
down
the
road.
So
I
think
it's
great
just
a
couple
questions.
I
guess
you
know,
I
guess
the
first
one,
the
you
know:
how
did
you
arrive
at
the
decision
for
three
months
versus
four
months
of
expenditures?
G
How
did
you
land
on
that
number
and
also,
I
guess
another
thing
I
might
ask:
is
you
say
that
if,
for
whatever
reason
we
have
to
dip
below
that
that,
within
five
years
there
you'd
have
a
plan
to
get
back
up
within
five
years
and
since
we're
running
expenditures
closer
to
revenues,
I
guess
that
which
makes
it,
I
think,
a
lot
more
difficult
to
build
that
back
up.
So
what
would
be
your?
G
You
know,
any
ideas
of
what
your
plan
might
be
to
build
that
back
up
and
then
I
think
that's
my
two
main
questions.
I
have
a
couple
other
just
on
your
priority
areas.
I
might
add,
when
you
say,
improving
the
health
of
the
community.
I
might
add
safety
to
that
as
well.
H
I
can
you
know
I
can
take
a
crack
at
at
those.
Those
questions
and
sean
can
certainly
add
in
perspective.
I
mean,
I
think
you
know
really
there's
there's
three
factors
in
my
mind
that
make
three
months
make
sense.
One
is
that
you
know
it's
a
full
month
above
above
the
recommendation
from
gfoa.
H
Two
is,
if
you
look
at
the
rating
agency
criteria-
and
perhaps
we
should
have
added
a
slide
on
this,
but
but
moody's
actually
establishes
30
percent
as
the
marker
for
a
triple
a
rated
county,
s
p
is
actually
only
at
15,
so
we're
gonna
be
twice
their
level.
You
know.
So
that's
that's
factor
two
and
then
factor
three
is
just
looking
at
the
historical
experience
you
know
with
the
great
recession
we
lost
about
60
million
dollars
per
year.
H
You
know
so
the
level
of
120
million
would
be
twice
that
and-
and
I
think
would
provide
us
a
good
cushion
to
be
able
to
deal
with
with
even
an
extreme
circumstance
like
that
second
question
on
building
it
back
up.
You
know,
I
think,
that's,
I
think
that's
a
a
great
question.
H
You
know,
I
think,
in
the
case
of
a
downturn,
we
recognize
you
know
that
the
the
purpose
of
a
rainy
day
fund
is
so
that
you
don't
have
to
immediately
reduce
expenditures
or
increase
revenues,
but
but
the
reality
is
over
time.
You
probably
would
some
would
make
some
adjustments
to
your
expenditures.
H
You
know
to
scale
things
back
in
that
kind
of
a
situation
and
then
I
think,
as
you
grow
out
of
that,
you
know
if
your
expenditures
are
starting
from
a
lower
base
and
then
as
the
economy
recovers,
and
you
get
some
revenue
growth
that
creates
some
surplus
to
be
able
to
help
build
the
rainy
day
fund
back
up
and
then
the
third
points
on
safety.
We
do.
F
B
H
O
And
the
only
thing
I
would
add
is
to
echo
what
kyle
said
on
the
rating
agencies
was
a
key
factor,
but
the
other
reason
for
this
policy
change,
I
think,
was
a
big
thing-
is
to
make
sure
that
we
were
clearly
delineating
rainy
day
fund
versus
strategic
investments
where,
before
everything
was
was
in
in
one
pot
and
I
think
making
sure.
Although
we
had
those
percentages
there
making
sure
that
we
had
a
clear
understanding
around.
That
was
one
of
the
motivations
behind
behind
this
policy
as
well.
J
Charles
great
two,
three
months
ago,
I
wondered
if
we
had
a
fun
balance
policy
and
I
was
assured
we
do-
and
I
appreciate
this-
you
know
changing
of
it
to
better
suit
our
rating
and
all
those
kind
of
things.
J
I
guess
where
I
was
slightly
looking
for
just
some
additional
insight,
so
we
have
this
I'm
on
slide
seven
and
we
have
the
green
box
at
the
top
total
fun
balance,
because
you
know
my
my
detriment
or
my
blessing
is
that
I
was
on
the
school
board
for
nine
years
and
I
just
want
to
better
understand
the
you
know.
There's
the
trigger
that
the
state
sets
up
the
rainy
day
fund,
our
true
general
fund,
minimum
balance
is
25.
J
Well
would
be
with
this
proposal,
so
I
guess
I'm
not
finding
I'm
not
understanding
what
the
rainy
day
portion
of
that
is.
Is
it
just
the
terminology
you're
choosing
to
use
right
now,
I'm
thinking
the
fund
balance
is
still
20
and
then
we
have
a
5
rainy
day.
So
I'm
definitely
absorbing
this
differently
than
what
I'm
supposed
to
so.
H
We
have
assignments
of
fundamentals
that
happen
at
the
end
of
the
year
and
some
of
those
assignments
kind
of
fit
in
a
rainy
day
bucket,
but
it's
also
part
of
the
overall
mix
you
know
so
I
think
our
goal
is
to
you
know,
is
to
make
it
clearer
every
year,
with
our
fund
balance,
that
you
know
that
that
all
of
the
dollars
in
the
fund
balance
fit
into
one
of
these
boxes
and
there's
no
overlap
between
the
two
you
know
so
so
everything
up
to
that
25
would
be
clearly
rainy
day
fund
would
only
be
accessed
if
there
were
a
five
percent
reduction
in
revenues.
H
You
know,
and
obviously
the
board
of
the
administration
decided
that
the
use
of
the
rainy
day
fund
was
appropriate
to
deal
with
that
as
opposed
to
other
measures.
So
I
don't
know
if
that
helps
at
all.
J
C
Yes,
thank
you
there's
a
lot
of
good
stuff
in
this
a
lot
of
stuff
to
like,
and
you
know
and
excuse
me
since
we're
just
voting
to
receive
the
file
not
on
the
merits,
so
we're
just
accepting
it
and
I
got
a
lot
of
stuff.
I
like
the
overall
idea
of
now,
I
want
to
say
sort
of
regularizing
or
institutionalizing
the
management
of
it,
rather
than
just
kind
of
keeping
it
kind
of
loose.
C
F
C
H
Well,
I
mean,
I
think,
in
the
event
of
an
economic
downturn
in
the
event
of
use
of
rainy
day
fund.
You
know
the
board
of
the
administration
would
certainly
have
the
option
to
look
at
something
faster.
I
mean,
I
think,
historically,
you
know,
recessions
happen.
On
average,
you
know
every
six
or
seven
years,
so
five
years
makes
sense
from
that
perspective,
but
I
certainly
think
there
would
have
to
be
an
evaluation
in
the
case
of
an
economic
downturn.
You
know:
do
we
want
to
accelerate
that.
C
C
Does
that
the
rainy
day
fund
here,
you're
separating
this
out
into
basically
two
categories,
one
being
the
rainy
day
fund,
which
is
25
and
the
other
is
the
other
risks
or
national
disasters
or
whatever,
which
is
five
percent
correct?
That's
right,
yeah!
All
right
so
put
that
together
and
you
got
what
like
about
what
144
million,
which
was
the
ballpark
yeah.
Okay.
Currently
we
got
267
million
in
there,
which
gives
us
a
100.
C
B
C
H
O
C
Yeah,
okay,
so
basically,
according
to
the
and
once
again
the
big
picture,
because
once
again
we
all
know
I'm
not
great
on
details,
but
that's
okay,
the
devil's
in
the
details,
which
is
why
I
stay
away
from
them.
What
is
you
basically,
I
would
say:
we've
got
a
lot
of
fun
balance
and
we're
going
to
spend
it
down.
I
believe
someone
actually
used
the
term
spending
down
fund
balance.
Why
do
you
want
to
do
that.
O
O
Our
footprint,
you
know
potentially
on
the
campus
too
capital
infrastructure
so
to
say,
spend
down.
I
I
don't
know
you
know.
From
that
perspective
we
need
to
we
need
to.
We
have
criteria
for
one-time
spending
and
we
need
to
adhere
to
that
that
criteria
and
that's
those
are
the
guideposts
yeah,
because.
C
It's
one
thing:
you
know:
I'm
not
an
obviously
not
an
accountant,
and
I
don't
even
play
one
on
tv.
I
play
other
things
on
tv
economist
mainly,
but
the
thing
is
is
that
it
is
really
weird,
but
I
I
sort
of
if
you
sit
down
and
kind
of
autodidact
yourself
onto
finance
financial
accounting.
You
find
that
there's
a
concept
called
owner's
equity,
which
is
say
or
in
the
corporation
shareholders
equity,
and
if
you
port
that
over
to
government,
we
basically
got
citizens
equity.
C
We
have
money
here,
we
have
wealth.
If
you
will
that
belongs
to
the
people
and
has
been
saved
over
the
years
to
various
means,
I
don't
want
to
have
bob
datto
come
and
yell
at
me.
So
the
thing
is:
is
that
you've
got
this
shareholders
equity?
If
you
will
or
citizens
equity
you
know,
is
this
the
best
use
for
it.
You've
got
like
I
said,
almost
100
mil
and
as
someone
who
was
in
the
county
before
is
that
that
was
very
useful.
C
That
equity,
if
you
will
you
used
it
to
bootstrap
other
things,
it
certainly
was
a
foundation
of
our
aaa
bond
rating,
because
you
could
say
look
you
know,
everybody
else
has
got
no
equity,
that
what
was
it
one
year
once
we
were
up
at
the
state
and
I
think
they
had
enough
fund
balance
or
rainy
day
fund
to
run
the
state
for
20
minutes
half
hour
half
hour
now,
that's
that's!
That
was
generous
too.
By
the
way
yeah.
We
remember
yeah.
F
C
See
so,
and
now
here
we
have,
you
know
quite
a
bit,
I
don't
know
how
comfortable
I
am
with
the
idea
of
taking
it
down
for
whatever
reason
now
I
understand
you're
talking
about
strategic
strategic
investments
and
I'm
looking
at
them
and
some
of
them,
of
course
you
know,
are
completely.
You
know,
I
think
they're
exemplary
others
of
them.
I
got
to
worry
about
you
know,
and
can
they
are
they
all?
Although
you
say
a
documented
long
term?
Does
that
mean
that's
objective?
C
You
know
quantifiable,
you
know
improving
the
health
of
the
community.
Are
you?
Are
you
going
to
say
g
by
you
know
in
five
years
they're
going
to
have
x
percentage
of
various
measures,
see
you
know
I
I
got
to
go
back.
You
know
my
father,
my
father
was
a
marketing
guy.
He
was
marketing
with
dow
chemical.
No,
he
was
not
in
the
consumer
marketing,
although
I
could
tell
you
some
stories
about
some
of
those
products
got
named.
C
Do
I
know
the
guy
that
scrubby
bubbles
is
actually
named
after
us?
No
really
seriously
I'll
get
this
on
some
other
time.
But
the
thing
is:
is
that
one
thing
my
dad
did
was
this
back
in
the
60s?
We
were
growing
up,
we're
all
watching
tv.
As
he
said,
you
know,
pay
attention
to
commercials,
don't
just
blow
them
off.
Who
is
selling
what
you
know,
what
are
they
being?
C
Who
are
they
being
pitched
to
what
is
being
sold,
so
we
would
actually
grow
up
analyzing
them,
and
one
thing
he
said
is
how
how
often
do
they
say,
invest
in
something
when
it's
really
just
consumption
like
invest
in
a
new
watch,
invest
in
a
vacation,
invest
in
a
new
car
by
the
way
in
the
60s
commercials,
the
best
ones
with
the
cigarette
commercials.
They're
awesome
cars
were
second
but
the
cigarette.
They
were
great
too
bad.
They
had
to
ban
them
all
and
they
was
right
to
do
it.
But
still
so
the
deal
is.
C
Is
that
I'm
looking
at?
If
you
can
sell
consumption
as
investment,
you
can
sell
almost
anything,
quoting
my
dad
so
and
he
didn't
approve
of
it.
So
I'm
looking
at
a
lot
of
these
things,
are
we
going
to
have
rois?
Are
we
going
to
say
gee
improving
the
health
of
the
community?
That's
a
good
thing
to
do!
C
Workforce
development!
That's
another
good
thing
to
do,
but
I
I
look
at
this
in
some
ways
you
can
say
these.
These
could
be
anything
these
could
be.
You
know
really
non-objective
non-quantifiable
and
I'm
not
real
comfortable
myself
with
spending
down
our
citizens
equity,
which
is
what
it
is
for
stuff
that
unless
you
can
say
we're
going
to,
you
know
be
green.
That's
great
green
can
be
great
we're
spending.
Let's
take
a
million
dollars
to
heat
this
building,
we're
going
to
take
that
down
to
half
a
million.
C
That
is,
without
a
doubt,
a
fine
fine
investment,
I'm
all
in
favor
of
that.
But
if
we're
going
to
just
send
out
checks
to
people
yeah,
I
don't
know
about
that.
Where's
where's,
the
roi
to
that.
So
this
is
a.
This
is
an
issue
for
me
and,
like
I
said,
I
would
be
very
happy
to
hear
the
response.
H
H
H
What's
the
right
level
to
hold
as
a
rainy
day
fund
to
to
ensure
that,
during
an
economic
downturn,
we
don't
have
to
immediately
reduce
the
level
of
county
services
for
those
taxpayers,
but
then
you
know
the
amount
above
that,
what's
the
appropriate
use
of
those
taxpayer
dollars
for
things
that
do
have
long
term,
that
the
benefits
for
county
operations
for
county
services
out
to
those
residents,
you
know-
and
that's
certainly,
a
process.
We
want
to
be
careful
and
measured
about,
but
we
also
don't
want
to
just
hold
those
dollars.
H
If
there
are
good
uses
that
the
county
executive
administration
and
board
identifies
you
know
to
improve
operations
and
services.
C
Well,
why
not,
for
instance,
an
investment
portfolio
I
mean
you,
could
you
could
invest
and
get
a
return?
I
mean,
I
understand
now
you're
in
a
different
line
of
work
than
the
county.
I
understand
that,
but
you
you
know,
as
this
is
like,
is
it's
a
rush
to
spend.
You
know
the
the
money
we
got
left
by
rich
uncle
brooks
you
know,
I
mean
that's.
O
Yeah,
so
let
me
jump
in
here:
it
is
not
to
rush
the
spin
down,
so
I
don't
want
that
term
to
be
misused.
Why
didn't
we
go
back
on
slide?
Nine?
You
can
see
the
five-year
fiscal
plan,
which
is
also
part
of
your
budget
books
as
well.
There
is
no
rush
to
spend
down
any
fund
balance.
You
can
see
where
it's
projected
in
in
five
years,
so
I
don't
want
that
to
be
misrepresented
on
the
spend
down.
The
question
becomes
is
when
there
is
an
investment.
One
person's
investment
might
be
another
person's
consumption.
O
It
depends
where
they're
at,
but
this
board
will
have
to
decide
what
the
rois
are
from
the
respective
elected
offices
as
they
come
and
present
their
proposals,
but
we've
laid
out
a
set
of
criteria
here
and
we
intend
to
look
at
what
the
return
on
investment
is
from
our
perspective.
Now
there
are
other
policy
questions.
Some
people
might
have
one
viewpoint
versus
another
on
hey.
This
seems
like
this
is
a
spend
down
of
citizens.
Equity,
others
might
say
hey.
This
is
an
investment
to
increase
the
citizens
equity.
O
When
we
look
at
economic
development
from
a
perspective,
I
don't
think
I
think
we
need
to
continue
to
look
at
the
future.
Where
are
we
at
with
our
manufacturing
base?
Things
are
shifting.
The
economy
is
shifting.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
making
investments
and
not
falling
behind
sitting
on
dollars
here
in
the
county
and
I'm
just
using
economic
development.
O
From
from
that
perspective,
we
need
to
try
to
skate
to
where
the
puck
is
going
to
be
not
to
where
it's
at.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
we
are
lining
up
this
workforce
that
we
have
in
oakland
county
that
we
continue
to
have
great
foreign
direct
investment,
we're
third
in
the
country
in
regards
to
foreign
direct
investment.
We
need
to
continue
to
attract
businesses
here,
be
a
place
that
corporations
want
to
come.
We
need
to
support
our
manufacturing
base
with
industry
4.0
and
turn
the
page
and
make
some
investments
there
as
well.
O
So
so
some
people
might
say:
hey
that's
a
spending
down
of
the
citizens
equity,
but
I
would
say
that
is
an
example
of
trying
to
make
sure
that
we're
making
investments
to
continue
to
have
a
strong
economy
here
in
oakland
county
and
lead
the
way.
Now
this
board
will
debate
the
merits
as
different
proposals
come
in
front
of
you
throughout
the
year.
It
is
our
hope
that,
when
we're
looking
at
proposals
for
one-time
spend
that
they
occurred
during
the
budget
process,
now
that's
not
always
you
know
you
all
know.
That's
not
always
the
case
now.
O
O
So
we
would
like
to
try
to
push
things
into
the
budget
process
of
if
they're.
If
someone's
going
to
make
an
investment
argument,
then
then
we
we
we
make
that
during
the
budget
process.
Now
that's
that's
our
goal,
but
we
know
sometimes
things
might
happen
where
that
might
be
not
take
place,
but
anyways.
That's
that's
what
I
would
say
to
to
the
strategic
investment.
O
I
appreciate,
but
I
appreciate
your
your
statement
on
citizens
equity,
but
I
would
say
that
if
you
look
at
the
five-year
fiscal
plan
that
we
put
forward,
you
know
it's
not
a
it's,
not
a
race
to
spend
down
that
strategic
investment.
It's
we
want
to
continue
to
have
a
strong
fund
balance.
C
I
appreciate
your
your
your
compliment,
your
predecessor,
mr
dad,
I've
never
said
anything
nice
to
me.
It's
anything
like
that,
that's
for
sure,
and
it's
good
and
he
still
wouldn't
all
right.
I
have
a
question
by
the
way
now
to
madam
chair.
The
vote
we
did
was
to
receive,
and
was
it's
too
was
not
just
to
receive
and
file,
but
to
recommend
to
the
board
that
we
passed
this.
No,
we
just
were
we
voted
to
receive
it.
Okay,
super
all
right!
Thank
you.
You
know
just
in
a
true
comment.
C
I
would
hope
that
the
money
that
we
have
the
equity,
which
is
I
that's
a
great
term-
I
made
it
up
so
I
love
it.
The
deal
is:
is
that
objective,
quantifiable,
nothing
subjective
things
that
you
can
say
you're
taking
this
money
you're
going
to
get
x
back
by?
Why
all
right?
Thank
you
very
much,
madam.
A
G
G
Yes
to
I
guess
that
there
was
a
plan
with
the
previous
administration
also
to
get
to
a
structured,
structurally
balanced
budget,
so
it
was
just
they
had
it
so,
but
it
was
going
to
be
using
ongoing
expenses
to
a
certain
degree
to
spend
that
down
until
we
got
to
a
structurally
balanced
budget.
That's
my
understanding,
and
I
think
that
the
current
administration
just
has
a
different
viewpoint
in
that
you
feel
that
the
fund
balance
shouldn't
be
used
for
ongoing
expenditures.
O
Am
I
correct?
Okay
yeah
we're
we're
trying
to
eliminate
the
planned
use
of
fund
balance.
Revenues
need
to
equal
expenditures.
G
Right,
so
if
you
no
matter
how
how
it
was
done,
if
we
kept
going
on
the
previous
trajectory,
then
that
fund
balance
would
have
gotten
a
lot
less
over
time.
Correct.
O
G
A
J
J
Does
this
account
for
that
and
if
you
need
that
accurate
enough
title,
I
can
google
it
real,
quick.
H
H
So
you
know,
that's
certainly
something
we
keep
an
eye
on,
particularly
on
the
pension
side,
because
we're
just
above
100,
but
it's
not
a
factor
here.
D
A
O
O
A
O
H
Made
earlier
just
in
the
full
interest
of
transparency,
because
I
got
a
note
from
corporation
council
on
rafaeli
the
the
true
worst
case
scenario
on
that
is
an
additional
40
million
dollars.
We
think
the
likely
cost.
If
there's
a
decision,
that's
retroactive
is
30
million
dollars.
So
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
on
the
record.
H
H
Is
this
is,
unfortunately,
something
you
know
caused
by
state
statute?
You
know
not
being
consistent
with
the
state
constitution.
Not
anything
oakland
county
did,
but
obviously
we're
on
the
hook
for
the
dollars.
A
D
H
You
clear
that
since
I'm
I'm
not
a
lawyer,
but
the
case
is
a
function
of
of
state
statute
being
found
to
be
incompatible
with
the
state
constitution,
not
any
specific
action
by
oakland
county
and
as
the
chair
points
out,
you
know
this
is
an
issue
for
all
counties
across
the
state.
D
A
Ever
since
I
came
to
the
finance
committee,
I
have
had
difficulty
with
what
happens
at
the
end
of
the
year,
the
assigning
a
fund
balance
up
and
down
and
around
to
make
everything
make
sense,
and
I
had
a
really
difficult
time
following
that,
especially
my
first
year
on
the
on
the
finance
committee.
I
understand
it
a
lot
better
now,
but
I
really
like
what
we're
doing
with
this,
because
I
think
it
elevates.
A
Plan
my
understanding
and
my
expectation
would
be
that
say:
you
want
to
buy
a
20
million
dollar
widget,
because
it's
gonna,
you
know,
fix
all
the
cars
and
in
the
fleet
and
save
us
all
this.
Whatever
I
would
expect
you
would
come
to
me
with
or
to
this
committee
committee
with
the
expense,
the
justification,
how
it's
going
to
be
paid
for
and
how
long
it's
going
to
take
to
replenish
the
funds
in
the
fund
balance
or
whatever
it.
A
It's
my
expectation
that
every
expenditure
that
way
will
come
with
that
kind
of
information
attached
to
it
and
to
me
that
will
be
more
clear
of
a
process
than
what
we've
had
in
the
past.
So
I
appreciate
that
change,
especially
to
all
of
this.
I
also
like
the
fact
that
we're
increasing
our
rainy
day
fund
to
30
percent
to
help
us
maintain
our
aaa
bond
rating,
and
we
just
know
it's
there.
A
We
are
so
fortunate
that
previous
administrations
and
boards
put
us
in
a
position
where
we
have
the
funding
for
our
retirement
systems
and
we're
not
looming
out
there,
like
many
of
the
other
municipalities,
still
are
with
a
lot
of
difficulty
in
how
they're
going
to
pay
for
all
of
that.
So
I
I
feel
fortunate
that
we
have
a
good
plan.
We
have
a
good
budget
and
we
have,
I
think,
a
good
strategy
going
forward
for
how
to
talk
to
each
other.
What
does
the
administration
want
to
do?
A
C
I
assume
we're
going
to
have
a
motion
and
a
second
and
when
we
do
that,
I
have
a
quick
comment.
B
C
Okay,
not
to
receive
and
file,
but
to
approve
to
approve
right.
Okay.
That
motion
is
on
the
table
right
now
to
address
that
motion,
since
we
are
moving
to
approve
and
essentially
to
recommend
this
particular
plan
to
the
board.
I
am
going
to
to
pass
on
this.
That
does
not
mean
I'm
against
it,
I'm
not
quite
ready
to
say
gee.
I
think
it's
a
great
idea.
We
should
do
this
and
that
doesn't
mean
I
can't
be.
C
I
can't
can't
be
can't
be
brought
aboard,
but
at
the
moment
I'm
kind
of
gonna
be
that
so
I'm
going
to
be
passing
and
but
I'm
not
gonna
be
voting.
No,
so
there
you
go.
C
C
A
It
will
go
to
the
board,
it
will
go
under
regular
agenda,
not
the
consent
agenda.
C
Okay,
so
to
do
this,
if
I
vote
so,
if
I
don't
know
it
goes
to
the
regular
agenda,
not
consent.
B
C
A
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
everybody
and
I
have
two
points
to
make
before
we
adjourn.
Mr
tim
sent
me
a
text
back
on
the
subject
of.
D
A
Thank
you,
gentlemen.
We
will
see
you
at
the
board
meetings.
All
right.
Okay,
so
mike
tim
answered
me
back
that
the
radio
tower
lease
is
in
fact
a
one
dollar
lease
and
he
sent
the
original
lease
agreement
to
the
staff,
so
we
would
have
a
copy
of
it.
And
secondly,
I
will
reiterate
that
going
forward,
the
finance
committee
will
now
meet
at
11
o'clock
instead
of
12
o'clock,
like
we
had
changed.
D
About
all
means
moving
forward
is
that
11.
right,
but
I
have
one
question
for
you:
you
put
out
our
you
put
out.
I
don't
know
if
it's
final
or
tentative
for
our
budgeting
meetings,
and
I
I
appreciate
it
because
you
put
them
on
our
meeting
day.
Thank
you
that
kind
of
keeps
us
all
on
one
day.
D
A
Okay,
great
what
we
you
know,
we
set
it
at
noon.
While
we
were
in
the
pandemic
virtual
meeting
situation,
saying
when
we
came
back,
if
it
worked
to
move
it
back
to
11
o'clock,
we
would
do
that
and
since
economic
growth
doesn't
seem
to
have
huge
agendas
right
now,
this
works
to
meet
at
11..
And
that
way
we
don't
conflict
with
parks
who
has
a
meeting
in
the
later
afternoon,
and
so
it.
F
A
A
and
we
we
throw
the
tiff
committee
meeting
and
the
coordinated
zoning
meetings
before
economic
growth.
If
we
have
one
of
those
and
they
usually
meet
at
8,
30
or
9
on
this
day.
So
we
do
have
meetings
from
8
30
till
the
end
of
this
one.
So
if,
if
no
one
objects,
we're
going
to
move
them
up
to
11
o'clock
and
michael
talked
to
the.
A
So
the.
K
The
budget
hearing
schedule
did
get
published
or
distributed
within
the
last
24
hours.
What
you
did
see
on
that
was
that,
yes,
they
did
follow
right
immediately
after
the
finance
committee
meetings.
K
In
addition,
I
believe
there's
two
dates
where
you
will
have
budget
hearings
right
before
the
full
board
meeting,
so
it's
good
to
recognize
that
as
well.
We
need
in
order
to
not
have
long
marathon
days
where
you
know
you
come
in
here
at
you,
know,
11
o'clock
and
you
stay
until
five
to
cover
all
the
different
departments.
We
decided
to
break
it
up
and
put
some
additional
dates
on
there
prior
to
the
board
meeting.
K
So
those
will
begin
at
three
o'clock
and
I
believe
it's
two
days
I
think
it's
the
fifth
and
18th
or
19th
one
of
those
days
that
that
we
have
in
august.
So
after
that,
I
do
believe
mr
jen
has
provided
some
government
budgeting,
101
orientation
kind
of
instructional
seminar.
I
would
call
it
to
any
of
those
commissioners
that
do
want
to
attend.
Even
if
you
haven't
responded
to
patty,
to
say
that
I
do,
you
know,
feel
free.
K
K
You
we
will
be
sending
out
a
youtube,
go
to
meeting
link
as
well
in
case
you
wanted
to
attend
remotely,
but
that's
the
update
with
budget
hearings
and
on
the
28th
we'll
begin
at
12
o'clock,
with
a
budget
overview
from
the
the
county
executive's
office
and
then
go
right
into
hr
and
some
other
departments
as
well.
So
that's
where
we're
at
and
just
to
keep
you
guys
informed
as
well.
A
A
Each
group
will
be
with
us
for
20
minutes
to
a
half
hour
and
hopefully
it'll
all
go
smoothly,
but
this
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
really
talk
to
every
department
in
the
county,
about
how
they're
spending
our
money-
and
I
think
that's
that's
our
job
as
this
committee.
So
thanks,
everybody
and
commissioner
charles
you
had
a.
J
Yeah
for
the
last
part
on
the
agenda
about
business
and
adjournment
stuff,
is
it
finance
or
would
it
be
government
or
other
committee,
because
yesterday
we
had
the
investiture
with
the
judges
and
they
were
in
the
beautiful
boardroom
there
and
they
were
all
sitting
on
those
worn
out.
Raggedy,
looking
little
red
chairs-
and
I
was
wondering
you
know
on.
J
A
J
A
Facilities
issue
economic
development,
great
to
know,
and
I
want
to
talk
about
having
an
accessible
bathroom
in
this
building
when
we
make
any
adjustments
to
this
building
again,
I
was
very
disappointed
that
wasn't
included
as
part
of
the
stuff
that
happened
over
you.
Can't
nobody
in
a
wheelchair
can
go
to
the
bathroom
in
this
building.
They
have
to
go
out
and
down
into
the
main
1200
building
and
in
2021.
I
think
that's
something
we
should
fix,
but
anyway
I'll.
A
Thank
you.
Anybody
else
have
anything
before
the
finance
committee
today.
If
not,
I
will
call
us
adjourned
at
129..
Thanks
everybody.
It
was
a
name
to
130
meetings.