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B
Commissioner,
cavell
is
absolute
notice,
cowell
here
mcgillivray
powell,
here
charles
present
log
here.
A
A
A
Any
comments
all
in
favor,
say
aye
opposed,
say,
may
minutes
are
approved
next
step
is
approval
of
the
agenda
moved
by
commissioner
mcgilvery,
supported
by
commissioner
moss.
Any
changes
to
the
agenda,
seeing
none
all
in
favor,
say
aye,
aye,
aye
opposed,
say,
nay,
okay
agenda
is
approved.
Next
up
we
have
public
before
we
get
to
public
comment.
I
just
want
to
say
three
of
these
members
are
on
the
parks
and
rec
board
which
meets
at
one
o'clock,
so
we
are
going
to
try
and
crank
through
this
as
quickly
as
we
can.
A
B
C
Good
morning,
good
morning,
commissioners,
my
name
is
katherine
kennedy
and
I'm
from
lake
orion-
and
I
know
I
didn't
actually
get
through
the
806
pages.
That
is
the
package
for
this
meeting.
I
know
how
many
of
you
got
through
the
806
pages:
okay,
good,
that's
better
than
the
last
meeting
someone
asked
and
not
a
single
person
raised
their
hand.
That
was
just
yesterday.
C
It
just
didn't
seem
very
logical
to
me.
I
don't
think
mental
health
has
anything
to
do
with
income
or
anything
other
than
mental
health.
It's
a
humanitarian
thing.
We
all
have
brains.
Sometimes
they
go
haywear.
It
has
nothing
to
do
with
any
other
item.
So
I
found
it
very
odd
that
the
people
that
were
in
charge
of
handling
all
of
our
administration
of
all
of
our
mental
health
grants
were
using
that
as
a
basis
as
the
first
criteria.
C
C
C
I
don't
see
how
any
of
this
process
meets
that
standard.
I
just
don't
so.
I
would
hope
that
we
can
reevaluate
that-
and
I
actually
did
talk
to
mr
woodward
at
after
the
claims
review
meeting,
because
I
was
actually
here
until
4
30
last
night
and
asked
he
could
reconsider
and
make
sure
that
oxford
gets
prioritized
for
mental
health.
Given
the
tragedy
that
occurred
yesterday.
C
C
Spite
of
political
problems
they've
been
dealing
with,
in
spite
of
being
the
only
ones
that
got
defunded
and
in
spite
of
the
fact
they
only
got
125
per
police
officer
training
a
year,
but
mr
bouchard
being
the
professional
that
he
is.
He
didn't
bring
that
up.
He
didn't
throw
it
into
the
national
media,
but
a
couple
of
politicians.
I
thought
it
was
pretty
disgusting
with
how
they
behaved
so.
C
A
B
A
E
Heather
smiley
from
lake
orion,
I
don't
care
about
the
free
lunches
and
how
you
guys
pick
your
things.
I
understand
the
need.
I
grew
up
in
detroit.
I
know
about
that.
How
the
stress
of
maybe
the
situation
could
definitely
give
a
need
for
mental
health
and
a
community
that
doesn't
have
the
ability
to
do
it.
So
that
is
totally
great.
E
I
do
want
to
throw
oxford,
possibly
in
the
hat,
though,
for
that,
if
we
can,
I
mean
I'll
pay
extra
taxes
at
that
point
in
time.
You
got
me
on
record,
you
know,
so
if
we
can
come
together
just
to
kind
of
help
out
the
kids
that'd
be
great,
and
I
also
thought
I
swear.
I
wasn't
going
to
do
this,
but
whatever
this
touches
me
like
legit,
I
know
people.
I
know
these
people.
I
know
these
families
there's
some
tissue
for
you.
Thank
you.
E
E
If
you
want
to
build
places,
that's
great,
but
I
think
the
number
is
definitely
ridiculous
for
the
actual
space.
So
you
know,
if
you
guys,
can
I
don't
know
what
you're
using
it
for
if
it's
tied
to
the
airport
and
the
pontiac
and
the
legal
or
whatever
you're
doing,
but
I
just
I
know,
89
is
definitely
not
going
to
be
conducive
to
that
area.
E
We
can't
support
it
traffic
wise
anything
parking
like
it's
just
not
conducive
to
that
area,
so
I
think
that
should
be
looked
at
and
yeah
I
didn't
get
through,
but
maybe
three
pages,
because
all
the
crap
that
happened
last
couple
days
in
life,
so
those
are
the
two
main
issues.
So
I
appreciate
your
time.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
Anyone
else,
okay,
seeing
no
one,
I
will
close
oops
lost
my
agenda
here,
close
public
comment,
and
here
we
go.
Thank
you
move
on
to
communications.
I
need
a
motion
to
receive
and
file.
Our
communications
moved
by
commissioner
powell,
supported
by
commissioner
mcgilvray.
A
While
we're
waiting
for
you
to
pull
this
up,
I
just
want
to
make
note
of
the
fact
that
a
number
of
these
communications
are
in
fact
tiffs
downtown
development
authorities,
corridor
improvement
authorities
and
so
on,
the
fact
that
they
were
holding
their
public
meeting
within
their
community
and
that's
what
this
is
is
spelling
out
for
us.
So
this
it's
been
fixed
on
the
computer,
so
you're
voting
for
all
receiving
and
filing
all
of
the
communications.
A
Excellent.
Thank
you.
Okay.
Moving
on
to
item
number
eight
recommendations
from
the
economic
development
and
infrastructure
committee
that
just
met
earlier
this
morning,
so
the
first
item,
eight
a
is
to
authorize
oakland
county
oakland,
oakland,
county
oakland,
township
water
supply
system,
improvement,
bonds,
series
2022..
I
need
a
motion
commissioner,
charles
supported
by
commissioner
moss.
B
A
G
I
guess
it's
all
been
reviewed
and
there's
no
we're
not
by
risk
risk
management.
So
by
appropriating
this
funds,
the
county's
not
liable
for
any
accidents
or
whatever
might
occur,.
A
Right
right,
this
is
this
is
a
matching
grant.
The
city
of
pontiac
is
going
to
come
up
with
125
000
and
then
250
000
is
being
provided
by
the
ralph
wilson
foundation.
That
does
this.
I
I
would
like
to
just
comment
on
this.
Arpa
funds
are,
are
designated
and
heavily
weighted
toward
underserved
areas.
A
That's
the
way
that
the
federal
law
was
written
and
so
using
arpa
money
for
this
skate
park
has
been
determined
by
guide
house
our
consultants
to
be
an
appropriate
use
of
this
funding,
but
I
think
it
also
answers
a
bit
of
a
question
that
came
up
in
public
comment
as
to
why
some
cities
are
designated
to
get
more
arpa
funding
for
mental
health
than
others,
because
the
way
that
law
was
written
was
to
target
those
underserved
areas.
A
So
that
doesn't
mean
we
can't
allocate
money
out
of
other
buckets
for
mental
health
in
other
areas,
and
it
doesn't
directly
relate
to
this.
But
I
wanted
to
make
that
clarification
as
we're
looking
at
the
difference
between
cares,
act,
arpa,
money,
general
fund
and
so
on.
They
each
have
different
requirements
for
how
that
money
can
be
spent.
This
particular
one
the
skate
park
falls
under
arpa.
H
Did
you
want
to
speak,
commissioner?
Charles?
I
was
going
to
say
for
probably
most
of
these
there's
things
I
might
want
to
say,
but
I'm
going
to
reserve
because
of
us
being
short
on
time
plus
we
just
talked
about
this
in
edi,
but
that's
really
it
like.
I
want
to
say
something.
I'm
like
it's
not
important
today,.
H
Just
real
quick,
I
just
wanted
to
say,
encourage
my
colleagues
if
you
could
support
such
a
project.
It's
just
gonna
help
it's
to
help
a
lot
with
the
spirits
in
our
city.
We
really
need
it.
So
thank
you
so
much.
H
A
Right
and.
A
A
I
I
Map
guy,
but
he
also
deals
with
all
of
our
surveyors
and
helping
with
re-monumentation,
and
so
you
know
we
come
every
year.
This
is
the
same
thing,
but
now
we're
into
maintenance
mode.
So
the
amount
is
a
little
bit
less.
In
previous
years
it
was
a
little
over
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
now
we're
a
little
bit
less
because
we're
in
maintenance
mode,
but
we're
finally
in
maintenance
mode,
which
is
very
exciting.
I
So
it's
money
that,
with
every
recording
in
the
register
of
deeds
office,
four
dollars
are
put
aside
into
the
remonumentation
fund,
those
get
sent
back
to
the
state.
Then
the
state
sends
it
back.
You
know
in
forms
of
grants
to
the
different
counties
so
of
course
we're
a
donor
county,
but
that's
why
we're
happy
to
take
our
money
back
and
make
sure
that
our
corners
are
all
well
established
and
everything
else
to
ensure
our
lines
and
property
is
good.
So.
A
I
A
Excellent,
thank
you
motion
carries.
Thank
you
all
right.
Next
item
is
item
9b
the
fiscal
year:
2022-2024
supplemental
for
non-supervisory
employees
represented
by
the
united,
auto
workers,
local
889
of
the
emergency
management
and
homeland
security
department.
That's
a
mouthful!
I
need
a
motion,
commissioner,
charles
supported
by
commissioner
mcgilvery.
All
right.
A
It's
pretty
self-explanatory.
The
next
these
are
all
negotiated
with
the
uaw.
This
is
the
their
leadership
agrees
that
this
is
the
contract
they
want
to
have
so
or
that
they're
willing
to
agree
with.
So
if
nobody
has
any
questions
for
management,
commissioner,
charles.
H
I
just
want
to
say
hopefully
I'm
back
in
2023
and
24,
to
ask
questions
about
this
with
a
more
understanding
of
how
these
come
to
us,
so
nothing
for.
K
K
So,
as
we've
been
having
multiple
opportunities
here
to
see
some
other
supplements,
these
are
a
few
more
and
they've
all
been
the
same
in
alignment
taking
the
what's
been
memorialized
for
what
they
do
now
food
allowance
time
off
clarifying
if
they
have
premium
pay
or
anything
like
that,
putting
it
in
the
contract
so
there's
nothing
too
crazy
or
off
bats.
The
emergency
management
group
has
five
full-time
employees
in
this
particular
union
and
again
it
was
a
shift
premium
and
really
clarifying
uniform
and
time
off.
A
Okay
motion
carries
next.
Item
is
item
9c,
which
is
also
a
uaw
contract
for
the
central
services
department?
Is
there
anything
to
add
ms
lynch.
K
Sorry,
essential
services
is
the
airport
and
the
garage
and
records
and
retention
so
that
one's
a
little
more
meaty,
just
because
there
was
so
many
different
divisions,
but
again
same
thing.
Memorializing,
what's
already
going
on
over
there.
A
Thank
you
motion
carries
next.
We
have
item
d
again,
a
uaw
contract,
this
time
for
the
facilities,
management,
department,
facilities,
maintenance
and
operations
division.
Anything
we
should
know
about
here.
Ms
lynch
same.
K
A
A
H
It
would
be
somewhere,
rudy
came
to
speak
to
us
and
health
health.
B
A
H
A
Do
that,
let's
I'm.
H
B
A
Oh,
this
is
the
wastewater
monitoring
program.
So
basically,
what
they're
doing
is
they
are
looking
at
wastewater,
coming
out
of
our
sewers
and
evaluating
looking
for
covid.
A
B
Is
this
chair?
Is
this
just
adding
the
cover,
because
we
did
this
for
the
other
diseases?
I
think
for
years
now,
through
the
wastewater?
I
remember
thinking
yeah,
I
think
so.
So
I
think
this
is
this.
I
think
this
is
just
adding
the
coven
factor.
H
A
A
Right
yeah.
I
Hi
hi:
this
is
just
an
amendment.
We
are
adding
money
to
be
able
to
continue
these
efforts
and
then,
if
there's
any
questions,
we
also
have
dr
faust
on
the
phone
with
us
but
yeah.
This
is
just
to
enhance
our
efforts
and
help
with
lab
equipment
and
things
like
that
program.
H
Yeah,
maybe
it's
because
I'm
an
only
child
but
feeling
some
type
of
way
that
somehow
someway
we
didn't
we
didn't
get
to
because
definitely
we
spoke
about
this
with
dr
faust
and
with
leanne
at
our
emerging
variant,
work
group
meeting
and
so
we've
been
trying
to
spend
some
of
that
arpa
money
on
things
just
like
this,
and
so
I'm
just
curious
where's
this
money
coming
from
and
is
it
generally
funded
or
is
it
arpa?
I
I
A
Thank
you
item
carries
moving
on
to
item
9,
no
10
c,
the
annual
action,
2021
annual
action
plan
and
2021
to
25
consolidated
plan
acceptance
for
community
development,
block
grant,
cdbg
home
investment,
partnership,
act,
program,
home
and
emergency
solution
grant
programs.
I
need
a
motion
commissioner
powell,
supported
by
commissioner
mcgilvery
good
afternoon.
Mr
bice.
L
Thank
you
so
keeping
it
pithy
that
this
is
our
regular
annual
funding
that
we
get
to
maintain
all
of
our
services,
as
our
division
is
fully
100.
Special
revenue
funded,
and
so
this
funding
is
consistent
with
what
we've
received
in
years
past
a
little
bit
overall
down
each
year,
I'll
pause
there.
If
anybody
has
any
detailed
questions
about.
A
A
Thank
you
motion
carries
thank
you,
mr
bice,
and
next
up
we
have
item
10d
the
fiscal
year,
2022
community
corrections
comprehensive
plan.
I
need
a
motion
commissioner,
kowal
supported
by
commissioner
moss.
F
Hello-
and
this
again
is
our
annual
request
to
accept
the
the
community
corrections,
divisions,
michigan,
department
of
corrections,
comprehensive
plan
for
oakland
we've
been
a
recipient
of
this
state
grant
since
1994,
and
this
allows
us
to
to
continue
our
programming
as
per
usual.
F
However,
this
year
we
did
submit
our
application
in
the
springtime
for
roughly
1.9
million
dollars,
and
we
were
awarded
100
000
in
excess
of
that
request,
and
so
the
the
total
monies
will
be
used
for
this
fiscal
year.
It
will
continue
the
funding
of
13
positions
and
partial
funding
for
two
community
corrections
positions
again
to
provide
our
services
and
monitoring
and
operational
oversight.
F
Also,
the
sheriff's
office
would
continue
the
funding
of
three
full-time
eligible
inmate
caseworker
positions
within
the
community
service
division
and
that
provides
jail
services
with
the
extra
hundred
thousand
dollars.
We
would
be
converting
a
part-time
community
corrections
position
into
a
full-time
position
within
our
pre-trial
services
supervision
unit,
so
requiring
any
questions.
H
Is
this
officer
facing
or
public
facing
in
terms
of
these
supports,
is
that
does.
F
That
this
this
is
public
spacing,
so
we
work
with
pre
and
post-adjudication
individuals
that
are
involved
in
the
criminal
justice
system.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Motion
carries
we're
still
waiting
on
somebody
from
the.
A
L
This
is
an
item
we've
talked
about
over
the
course
the
last
several
months,
as
as
we
have
brought
contract
exception,
requests
into
this
meeting.
I
wanted
to
give
an
update
on
it.
Contracts
kind
of
at
the
at
the
macro
level.
L
So
I
wanted
to
start
just
briefly
with
out
of
the
purchasing
policy
and-
and
I'm
sure
most
of
you
are
very
familiar
with
this
duration
of
contracts.
You
know
does
specify
one
to
three
years
when
it's
advantageous
to
the
county.
In
particular,
we
could
move
that
to
up
to
five
years
and
if
we
need
to
go
longer
than
five
years
that
we
bring
that
to
the
board
of
commissioners
for
approval,
and-
and
I
wanted
to
to
talk
about
this
just
a
little
bit
from
the
standpoint
of
this.
L
This
is
you
know
about
us
trying
to
be
compliant,
and
you
know
I
think,
the
data
that
will
show
that
in
most
cases
we
are
compliant
and
and
as
we've
talked
about
before
you
know,
I
think,
a
significant
amount
of
the
conversation
and
the
discussion
occurs
because
most
of
the
contract
work
that
we
do,
which
is
very
significant
as
we'll
see
here
in
a
few
minutes.
L
L
So
this
next
slide,
please
thank
you
so
in
nit,
with
with
one
notable
exception
that
I
actually
pulled
out
because
it
skews
the
data
significantly,
we
have
a
single
contract
with
pfn
peninsula
fiber
network,
that's
actually
paid
for
primarily
through
the
state
for
911
services.
L
So
it's
a
huge
huge
network
of
circuits
that
pfn
won.
That
was
a
competitive
bid
when
it
went
out
and
was
actually
in
in
the
five-year
time
frame,
it's
primarily
paid
for
by
the
state
and
that
contract
alone
is
166
million
dollars.
So
I
pulled
that
out.
So
it
doesn't
skew
the
rest
of
these
numbers
so
pulling
that
out.
We
still
manage
inside
of
the
I.t
department,
almost
180
contracts,
and
that
has
a
not
to
exceed
value
of
almost
200
million
dollars.
L
So
so
those
are
three-year
five-year
kinds
of
expense
numbers
and
those
are
the
contract,
values
or
the
not
to
exceed
value
of
a
particular
contract.
So
it
is
absolutely
a
significant
amount
and
and
part
of
the
the
point
of
this
and
you'll
see
in
a
little
graph
around
contract
age.
L
90
of
our
contracts
are
less
than
five
years
old.
We
have
been
going
through
the
rfp
process
and
we
have
been
executing
contracts
through
the
normal
process,
to
the
point
that
you
know,
160
of
them
are
less
than
5
years
old
and
that's
made
up
of
149
our
existing
contracts.
You
know
with
a
book
value
of
100
and
almost
160
million
and
11
more
of
those
have
just
been
awarded
in
the
last
several
months,
so
a
new
contract
for
firewalls,
a
new
contract,
the
body
cam,
is,
is
in
that
number.
L
That
contract
is
not
quite
awarded
yet,
but
it
did
go
through
an
rfp
we've
had
rfps
for
jail
management
systems,
rfps
for
phone
systems.
L
There
are
dozens
of
examples
well
eleven
in
this
case
and
then
that
that's
almost
10
million
dollars
that
have
just
been
awarded
in
the
last
few
months
and
again
going
through
a
full
rfp
process,
and
as
I
mentioned,
this
does
not
include
that
pfn
contract
just
because
it
kind
of
distorts
those
numbers
a
little
bit
and
frankly,
the
county
is
not
as
long
as
the
state
continues
to
fund
9-1-1,
which
is
is
part
of
their
intent.
L
So
one
of
the
other
items
out
of
the
the
policy
is
that
that
we
can
consider
longer
contractual
terms
when
it's
advantageous
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
look
at
and
we
work
with
the
purchasing
team.
We
work
at
the
fiscal
team.
We
work
with
the
business
owners
of
these
contracts
because,
most
of
the
it
contracts
we
manage
the
system,
we
manage
the
software
for
one
of
the
business
operations,
whether
that
be
the
health
department
or
the
hr
department,
the
sheriff's
office,
etc.
L
So
we're
always
working
with
those
departments
as
well,
but
some
of
the
the
items
that
we
look
at
you
know
from
the
business
perspective
as
well
as
the
the
life
of
technology,
is
that
we
have
some
assets
and
some
systems
where
their
life
may
be
greater
than
five
years
and
and
in
those
cases
you
know
we
want
to
leverage
that
asset
and-
and
I've
used
this
example
before
one
of
the
best
examples
is
the
radio
system.
L
You
know
from
a
fiscal
perspective,
a
life
of
that
asset
perspective,
the
useful
life
from
the
perspective
of
law
enforcement.
We
are,
we
are
planning
on
that
asset
and,
in
fact,
in
this
particular
case
we
actually
went
to
the
building
fund
and
we
issued
bonds
to
help
pay
for
this
project.
L
Another
example
scenarios
that
we
look
at
are
the
impact
to
operations
the
impact
to
the
sheriff.
If
we
have
to
rebuild
the
communication
network,
the
impact
to
the
health
department,
if
we
have
to
rebuild
some
of
the
health
applications
that
they
are
leveraging
and
and
really
to
any
other
operation,
I
mean
those
are.
Those
are
just
examples,
but
some
of
the
examples
that
that
that
you
know
affects
are
some
of
our
telecommunications,
and
I
have
brought
telecommunications
contracts
in
here
recently.
L
Clemis
is
another
one
where,
because
of
the
life
and
the
impact
operations,
the
cost
of
conversion
work
day
would
be
another
example
where
the
you
know
that
that
already
is
a
four-year
project
and
and
we're
still,
you
know,
as
as
you
know,
from
a
few
months
ago,
we
brought
in
additional
funding
requests,
we're
looking
to
implement
that
in
may.
L
L
So
again,
the
impact
to
the
fiscal
team,
to
the
hr
team
and
to
the
rest
of
the
organization
implementing
a
system
of
that
magnitude
is
significant.
So
there
that's
a
consideration
again,
not
not
the
only
one
but
sometimes
that's
considered,
and
then
the
the
third
one
was
would
be
the
return
on
investment.
The
project
cost
impact
to
replace
so
an
important
note
in
these
nte
figures,
the
almost
200
million
dollars
of
contracts.
L
That's
only
the
contract
value
that
we
would
potentially
spend
with
a
vendor
with
an
outside
supplier
or
partner.
It
does
not
include
the
labor.
That's
you
that
comes
from
I.t,
which
is
you
know,
as
you
know,
in
a
proprietary
fund,
and
we
have
to
budget
for
and
plan
for
and
then
rebuild
that,
so
it
does
not
include
the
it
amounts.
It
also
does
not
include
the
labor,
that's
required
out
of
the
departments
when
we
implement
a
new
financial
system
or
a
new
new
system
for
for
the
clerk
or
the
registered
deeds.
L
We
build
all
of
those
those
efforts
into
an
roi
model,
so
that
kind
of
gets
back
to
the
scenario
where,
yes,
we
may
be
able
to
save
a
small
amount
by
doing
a
re-bid,
but
it
would
never
recover
the
cost
of
doing
the
conversion
to
a
new
system
and
and
again
there.
L
There
aren't
a
lot
of
examples
of
that
when
you
put
it
in
perspective
of
all
of
the
contracts
that
we
have,
but
it
is
something
that
we
consider
and
evaluate
so
megan
next
slide,
please
so
so
these
next
couple
slides
have
some
examples
of
some
of
the
contracts
that
I
have
brought
in
recently
and
or
some
of
the
contracts
that
would
kind
of
fall
into.
You
know
this
strategic
category
where
the
the
life
of
the
asset
or
the
cost
of
conversion
or
the
roi.
L
You
know
it
does
not
benefit
the
county
necessarily
to
go
through.
You
know
a
three-year
or
some
cases,
even
a
five-year
contract.
So
these
are
just
a
few
examples
and
I've
touched
on
some
of
them.
L
Another
key
point
on
on
almost
all
of
these,
in
fact
all
of
these
on
this
page
and
I
think
most
on
the
next
page
as
well.
Every
one
of
these
requires
they're,
so
big
that
the
project
itself
comes
into
the
finance
committee.
It
goes
to
the
board
because
we
are
getting
external
funding
for
that
project.
To
begin
with,
so
part
of
part
of
the
you
know,
what
we
may
be
you
know
experiencing
in
some
cases
is
you
know?
Maybe
the
the
I.t
department
reported.
L
We
had
a
different
liaison
committee
two
years
ago,
so
the
finance
committee
may
not
have
seen
these
projects
and
then,
of
course,
as
you
all
know,
sometimes
there
are
changes
in
the
makeup
of
the
committees.
So
what
might
seem
new
to
to
one?
Commissioner?
You
know
in
terms
of
what's
happening
in
the
process.
L
You
know
well,
I
have
brought
all
of
these
in
the
last
few
years
and
I've
only
been
here
for
four
and
a
half
years,
so
these
projects
come
into
the
board,
with
that
kind
of
understanding
that
they're
going
to
have
that
longer
life
already.
So
you
know
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
was
understood
from
a
process
perspective
as
well
and
megan
next
slide.
L
Just
has
a
couple
more
examples
slide
number
six,
the
gis
software
that
we
use
again
is
a
strategic
investment
that
was
made
several
years
ago
and
it
is
expected
to
last
for
several
years,
and
it's
also
one
that
the
cost
of
conversion,
if
you
will,
because
so
many
cvts
are
using
this.
L
The
county
made
a
strategic
decision
several
years
ago
to
provide
this
software
for
free
out
to
the
cvts,
so
the
cvts
are
doing
lots
and
lots
of
work
on
gis
mapping
and
some
take
more
advantage
of
it
than
others,
but
this
is
provided
by
the
county
to
the
cvt,
so
the
management
of
those
licenses
is
done
by
I.t.
Our
document
management
system,
again
is
a
is
a
significant
investment.
L
It
was
again
a
major
implementation,
major
changes
to
how
they
do
their
business,
and
you
know
millions
of
documents
that
are
now
managed
by
this
system.
So
the
the
document
routing
the
approvals
and
then
also
the
archiving
of
those
documents,
is
in
this
new
platform.
L
So
again
that
was
also
considered
strategic
at
the
time
it
was
procured
body
cams
would
be
in
that
in
that
mode.
You
know
once
that
moves
forward,
and
then
again
I
mentioned
some
of
our
telecommunications,
our
mainframe,
which
which
we
have
actually
outsourced,
but
we're
still
responsible
for
the
contract.
The
outsource
contract,
as
well
as
some
of
the
software
that
runs
on
the
mainframe,
the
the
biggest
user
of
our
mainframe,
is
the
courts
management
system,
the
case
management
system
and
that
system
is
going
through
the
rfp.
L
As
we
speak,
we
are
finishing
up
the
requirements
with
the
courts
team.
It
will
be
another
major
project
similar
to
the
workday
project,
it's
going
to
affect
all
of
the
court's
operations
and
we
will
intend
to
get
off
of
the
mainframe,
but
until
we
get
off
of
the
mainframe,
we
need
to
continue
to
maintain
that,
and
there
just
aren't
that
many
vendors
that
do
that
as
well
as
at
some
point,
even
the
people
to
provide
support.
L
Know
whether
whether
we
we
like
it
or
not,
you
know
we
most
of
us
even
in
our
personal
lives.
You
know
leverage
some
of
the
microsoft
suite
of
products.
You
know,
even
if
it's
just
the
windows
operating
system,
but
again
that
is
not
a
a
change
to
the
operations
in
this
county.
That
would
be
easy
for
the
operations
to
withstand.
L
If
we
decided
to,
for
example,
just
use
google
docs,
you
know
there
are
companies
that
do
that,
but
they
are,
you
know
they
do
have
some
security
risks
and
they
do
have.
You
know
some
concerns
with
access
to
that
data,
certainly
not
something
that
we
would
recommend,
but
it
does
make
microsoft.
You
know
basically
a
sole
source
provider.
You
know
which
again
makes
difficult
to
to
move
out
of
the
three
or
five
year
kind
of
contracts,
environment,
and
then
there
are
some
some
contracts
as
well.
L
You
know
that
you
know
I
I
put
them
into
you,
know
others
specialty
or
custom
our
print
management
contract.
You
know,
we've
outsourced
print
management.
We
have
a
couple
hundred,
I
think,
actually,
in
the
order
of
300
multi-function
devices,
print
fax
and
scan
most
departments
use
less
print
during
covid,
but
actually
some
actually
increased.
The
health
department
got
busier,
so
even
the
print
management
that
contract
did
go
out
for
bid,
but
the
printers
themselves.
L
We
brought
a
project
in
here
just
a
few
months
ago
that
we
are
going
to
replace
those
printers,
as
they
are
end
of
life,
also
contracts
for
soil
management
which
tie
into
our
gis
software
our
disaster
recovery
sites.
So
the
management
of
our
data
centers
projects
for
the
jail
for
parks,
even
for
you
know,
point-of-sale
kinds
of
terminals.
So
there
are
a
number
of
smaller
examples
that
I
I
did
load
into
this
this
other
category,
that
that
is
about
13
million
dollars.
L
L
So
I
wanted
to
just
briefly
touch
one
of
those
categories.
This
rfp
went
out
two
years
ago
and-
and
we
do
this,
every
three
years
is
professional
services.
In
in
I.t
we
spend
a
fair
amount.
The
nte
is
nearly
23
million
dollars
over
a
three
year
period
and
and
those
those
are
are
not
to
exceed
numbers,
so
we
probably
won't
hit
that
volume,
but
these
are
technical,
I.t
professionals
that
are
brought
in
for
individual
projects
for
specific
skills
that
they
have.
L
L
L
We
might
have
project
managers
contracted
out
of
six
different
contract
houses
if
you
will
so
that
would
be
some
of
those
35
contracts,
but
these
are
all
technical,
I.t
professionals.
L
L
And
megan
next
slide
to
number
eight.
L
We
bring
those
big
projects
into
the
finance
committee
into
the
board
for
approval
before
we
issue
the
contracts
and
then
these
contracts,
where
we
need
to
do
an
exception.
We
bring
those
exceptions
into
this
process
into
this
board
for
review
and
approval
as
well.
You
know
there
there
are
no
exceptions
that
don't
get
brought
into
into
this
committee.
L
I
also
want
to
you
know,
confirm,
and
let
you
know
this.
This
is
a
very
well
managed
process.
This
is
something
we
take
very
very
seriously.
We
have
dozens
of
people
in
it.
L
Project,
managers
and
supervisors
that
are
managing
the
fiscal
aspects
of
managing
I.t
and
and
a
big
part
of
that
is
these
contracts.
We
we
track
the
expiration
date
of
the
contracts
we
track
the
services
we
track.
The
deliverables
vendor
management
is
a
big
big
part
of
what
we
do
in
it
on
on
a
daily
basis,
with
all
of
our
projects
that
are
executing
so
so
part
of
this
is
to
be
compliant
with
the
purchasing
policies.
L
That
process
of
master
planning
is
about
to
kick
off
again
in
in
the
january
february.
Time
frame
for
our
next
two
year
period
with
the
departments
and
and
part
of
that
process
will
be.
We
will
map
out
all
of
the
contracts
that
need
to
be
redeveloped
need
to
be
re-rfp'ed
and
and
brought
back
into
the
evaluation
process.
L
So
so
we
even
plan
for
the
rfp
process
and
and
again
at
the
end
of
the
day,
our
motivation
is,
is
we
think
exactly
what
the
intent
of
the
policy
is
is
to
to
benefit
county
operations
to
benefit?
You
know
the
stakeholders
of
the
county
to
benefit
the
residents
to
manage
responsibly
these
assets
and
contracts
that
we've
we've
been
given
that
responsibility
to
do
so
that
that's
the
conclusion
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
time,
but
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
tim
I'll,
open
it
up
to
the
commission.
Commissioner
powell.
H
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
thank
you
for
doing
at
least
your
best
in
that
position.
I
remember
when
we
first
took
office
and
the
transition
with
staff
was
happening
and
you
I
don't
know
how
to
I
think,
but
you
stepped
up
and
or
was
promoted
or
whatever,
but
I've
been
watching
you
and
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
at
least
doing
what
you
can
do
in
that
position
to
keep
things
as
transparent
as
possible
and
bringing
it
to
us
in
a
professional
manner.
So
thank
you.
H
L
J
Yes,
thank
you
for
coming
and
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
Just
is
very
clear.
I'm
you
know
it's
so
big
a
department
and
has
so
many
moving
parts,
and
so
many
you
know,
contracts
on
contracts
on
contracts
on
extensions
on
this
is
that
what's
advantageous
I've
found
is
to
have
I
I
don't
use
the
word
choke
points.
J
That's
a
has
a
horrible
connotation,
but
the
bottom
line
is
that
there
has
to
be
certain
points
where
the
board
of
commissioners
can
just
have
things
extremely
simplified
and
for
people
like
me,
it's
got
to
be
exceedingly
excruciatingly,
simple,
that
we
can
make
decisions
and
have
effective
oversight.
If
it's
so
complicated
that
no
one
can
understand
it,
then
it
can't
be.
You
know,
people
who
are
not
deep
into
this
or
have
mba
management
can't
understand
it.
J
So,
for
instance,
when
you
talk
about
that,
we
only
have
limited
limited
contracts
that
we
roll
over.
So
you
have
to
keep
coming
back
for,
for
you
know,
for
reapproval,
that's
perfect!
That's
great!
At
one
point
we
had
the
contract
exception
report,
which
is
something
like
that.
Maybe
we
still
do
haven't
seen
it,
but
you
talk
about
advantageous
and
who
defines
advantageous.
Well,
you
guys
haven't
defined
it.
I
don't
blame
you.
I
would
do
that
too.
J
I'd
love
to
be
able
to
define
my
stuff
too,
but
the
bottom
line
is,
is
that
if
you
have
to
bring
anything,
that's
going
to
go
over
back
and
prove
its
advantageousness
and
its
advantageousity
to
this
body?
That's
what
you
do
and
I
there's
a
constant
tension
between
explaining
stuff
so
that
only
so
that
idiots
like
me
can
understand
it.
On
the
other
hand,
it's
idiots
like
me
and
not
everybody
else
whose
job
it
is
to
oversee
it.
J
So
I
guess
I'm
saying
is
you
know
this
is
all
very
nice
and
very
well
and
good,
and
I
appreciate
it,
however,
explaining
it
in
25
words
or
less
is
a
skill
that
is
really
really
good
to
master
and
so
that
you
can
bring
it
up
in
people
who
are
not
I.t
people
or
are
not
familiar
with
I.t
and
maybe
not
overly
overly
familiar
with
the
more
byzantine
efforts
of
of
contracting.
J
So
that's
that's
my
response.
This
is
all
very
good,
but
as
you
go
forward
and
as
long
as
I'm
here
at
some
point,
I'm
just
gonna
say,
but
you
know
25
votes
or
less.
Can
you
explain
it?
Yes
or
no?
Thank
you.
G
A
If
there's
no
other
questions
or
comments,
we'll
say
thank
you
to
mr
tim
today
and
we
have
to
vote
to
receive
and
file.
Is
that
what
we're
doing.
B
L
L
Commissioner
moss
so
so
thank
you
and
first
of
all,
I
agree
that
brevity
is
is
a
critical
skill
and
it
is
something
that
I
personally
work
on
quite
a
bit.
L
Secondly,
the
the
intent
of
this
is
really
just
to
help
explain
it
is
not
to,
it
is
not
to
say
I'm
advocating
a
change
to
the
process.
I
have
no
problem
bringing
those
contracts
forward,
I'm
I
will
continue
doing
that
and-
and
I'm
just
hopeful
that
this
helps
explain
some
of
the.
Why
we're
doing
that
and-
and
the
third
piece
is
there's
a
slight
difference
between
the
exception
report
that
you
see
and
and
the
contracts
that
I
bring
forward.
L
L
Essentially,
we
are
allowed
to
execute
those
and
purchasing
submits
the
report,
and
we
come
in
and
explain
it
after
the
fact,
the
ones
that
I
have
been
bringing
are
renewals
and
extensions
to
contracts
which
require
a
resolution
to
extend
it.
So
so
it's
actually,
from
my
perspective,
more
work
to
bring
those
forward,
but
I
think
it's
also
more
transparent.
L
A
A
I
need
a
motion
commissioner
powell,
supported
by
commissioner
moss.
We
have
mr
hobbs
with
us,
who
is
the
deputy
over
our
health
division.
I
think
is
that,
right.
Okay,
good
afternoon
mr
hobbs,
we're
here
to
talk
about
the
american
rescue
plan
act
oakland
together
school
mental
health
and
well-being
grant
funds
for
the
community
in
schools
initiative.
That's
a
lot
yeah,
so
you
want
to
just
give
us
the
brief
high
level
sure
what
is
this
and
what
we're
doing.
D
All
right,
so,
first
of
all
good
afternoon,
I
apologize
for
my
tardiness
and
not
being
able
to
get
a
hold
of
me.
I
was
at
children's
village
all
morning.
You
know
in
meetings,
so
I
really
apologize
and
I
get
terrible
reception
at
children's
village.
So
I
really
apologize,
but
just
to
kind
of
give
you
a
sense
of
you
know
what
we
put
forth.
I
think
we
took
it
through
the
public
health
and
safety
committee
yesterday,
just
to
kind
of
give
you
a
sense
what's
before
you
today.
D
This
is
our
second
initiative
out
of
a
two
million
dollar
pot
that
we're
supporting
schools.
You
know
particularly
around
mental
health
and
wraparound
issues,
and
so
this
is
the
first
one
you
guys
approved
I'm
kind
of
doing
all
this
off
the
top
of
my
head.
Now
it's
fifty
thousand
dollars.
It
was
for
youth
assistance.
D
The
second
initiative
is
a
leverage
opportunity
that
we're
bringing
to
you
where
we're
going
to
take
five
hundred
thousand
dollars.
We
have
a
matching
funds
from
the
bomber
group,
I'm
not
sure
or
the
bomber
foundation.
I'm
not
sure
how
many
people
are
familiar
with
the
bomber
foundation,
but
steve
balmer,
former
oakland
county
resident.
He
owns
the
la
clippers
used
to
be
a
an
executive
at
microsoft,
made
a
ton
of
money
now
he's
committed
to
coming
back
to
communities
and
needs
in
terms
of
supporting
particularly
school
issues.
D
So
his
organization
is
going
to
match
our
500
000
to
provide
you
know:
services
in
six
schools.
I
believe
that
we
have
teed
up
now,
looking
to
expand
that
at
some
time.
So
that's
where
we're
in
since
asking
you
to
prove
that
communities
and
schools
will
be
that
organization.
That's
going
to
provide
those
services
when
I
was
a
teacher
a
long
long
long
long
time
ago,
on
the
east
side
of
detroit
communities
and
schools
were
at
my
school
and
supported
my
classroom.
D
When
I
was
a
first
grade
teacher,
you
know,
and
so
basically
what
they
do
they
provide.
You
know
mallory's
not
on
his
call
to
really
say
this,
but
I
think
she
shared
it
and
wrapped
it
up
very
nicely.
Yesterday
they
provide
services
from
you
know,
providing
a
toothbrush
to
setting
up
field
trips
that
most
kids.
You
know
you
know,
wouldn't
have
an
opportunity
to
go
to,
but
also
guiding
services
and
those
services,
including
mental
health
services,
for
students,
so
we'll
look
at
them
participating
in
those
classrooms.
I
Yes,
the
districts
that
we
are
looking
to
start
in
are
oak
park,
madison
hazel
park,
burndale,
southfield
and
continuing
our
work
in
pontiac,
and
the
districts
were
selected
based
on
the
percentage
of
free
and
reduced
lunch
students,
so
that
we
could
get
a
proxy
for
vulner
for
where
our
most
vulnerable
students
might
be,
with
the
exception
of
southfield,
which,
if
we
were
just
doing
that
as
the
strict
rule
would
be
like.
I
So
what
where
the
plan
is
for
this
coming
semester
to
start
the
programming
in
those
six
six
districts
and
then
in
the
fall
to
extend
them
to
other
schools
within
those
districts?.
H
Commissioner
powell,
I
just
wanted
to
let
my
colleagues
know
that
I
did
after
I
found
out
that
community
schools
have
been
in
my
district.
I
talked
to
our
superintendent
and
our
board
president,
just
to
kind
of
get
a
feel
of
how
it's
been
going
with
community
and
schools,
partnership
with
our
school,
and
I
have
got
high
recommendations
of
good
work
of
what
they
have
been
able
to
do
so
far
in
one
of
our
districts.
So
I
just
want
to
put
that
out
there.
Thank
you.
K
Sure
rudy,
as
you
know,
at
health
yesterday,
I
I
made
a
few
comments.
I'm
concerned
that
we
use
the
the
free
lunch
program
as
to
which
communities
we're
going
to
get
that.
K
D
Well,
I
think
alice
shared
this
yesterday.
You
know,
you
know
what
I
what
I
don't
want
to
present
to
you
is
that
this
is
the
silver
bullet.
You
know
the
only
silver
bullet
right.
You
know
the
only
initiative,
that's
going
to
address
mental
health
issues,
but
you
know
but
also
wrap
around
services.
You
know
I
kind
of
see
this
initiative
here
is
really
you
know,
will
kind
of
address
a
wrap
around
service
need,
more
so
than
you
know
a
specific
mental
health
need.
D
I
think
that
when
you
look
at
when
you
look
at
the
suite
of
services
that
we're
going
to
provide,
though
that
you
know
with
the
package
that
the
administration
is
bringing
to
you
you'll
see,
you
know
you
passed
a
10
million
dollar
mental
health
grant
right.
You
know
well
that
10
million
dollar
health
health
grant
that
we
have.
You
know
we
started
reaching
or
accepted
proposals
on
about
eight
million
dollars
of
those
dollars
out
of
ten.
D
You
know
it's
really
going
to
be
going
into
the
communities
and
I
think,
alex
you
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
about
60
of
those
programs
were
really
targeted
towards
youth.
You
know
so
you
know,
that's
that's
one
initiative
right.
You
know
there's
going
to
be
another
initiative
that
you
know,
I'm
hoping
that
alice
and
I
will
bring
to
you
guys.
You
know
sometime
in
january.
You
know,
as
we
finish
wrapping
that
up
and
that
initiative
is
going
to
be
targeted
towards
a
mental
health.
D
You
know
in
schools,
in
every
single
school
in
the
county,
like
I
kind
of
see
that
as
the
mental
health
initiative,
you
know
for
schools.
This
initiative,
you
know,
supplements
you
know
what
the
other
initiative
that
other
initiatives
we
want
to
have
right,
I
mean
there's
a
mental
health
component,
but
cis
is
not
a
mental
health
provider
right.
They
provide
services
that
that
that
provide
wrap-around
services
for
kids.
So
I
would
just
share
to
answering
your
question.
In
short,
you
know
and
to
wrap
it
up.
It's
really.
It's
really
about.
A
Okay,
are
you
satisfied,
commissioner
mcgilvary.
K
B
J
A
J
Mental
health
grant
right
and
you're
talking
about
wraparound
services.
How
many
of
those
wraparound
services
that
are
wrapping
around
do
or
do
not
involve
mental
health.
I
Well,
if
I
could
take
that
rudy,
yes,
you
know
the
the
the
communities
and
schools
program
is
an
evidence-based
program
which
you
know,
which
means
that
it's
been
tested
throughout
the
country
and
I
think
that
what
it
brings
is
flexibility
to
deal
with
whatever
issues
are
arriving
arising
at
those
schools.
So
it's
not
that
there's
a
certain
percentage
allocated
to
each
kind
of
wraparound,
but
rather
that
the
the
needs
of
the
students
are
identified.
You
know,
there's
a
there's,
a
needs
assessment,
that's
made
and
and
then
the
connection
to
those
services
are
provided.
J
J
You
know
that
I'm
sure
that
these
communities
have
a
lot
of
students
with
a
lot
of
different
needs,
but
I'm
quite
sure
that
a
lot
of
those
needs
are
not
necessarily
mental
health
needs.
Are
we
using
this
for
mental
health?
Are
we
using
this,
for
you
know
other
stuff
which
is
good
stuff,
but
is
it
mental
health
so.
D
Well,
being
convened
can
mean
that
I
came
to
school
without
a
toothbrush
today,
and
you
know
the
wraparound
services
that
we
provide
we'll
make
sure
that
kid
has
a
toothbrush.
If
that
kid
needs
a
tutor,
we'll
make
sure
that
that
kid
has
a
tutor.
If
that
kid
needs
mental
health
services,
we
will
connect
that
kid
with
mental
health
services.
It's
the
well-being
of
the
kid.
I
don't
think
that
we
should,
you
know
really
kind
of
like
you
know.
You
know,
try
to
you
know
pick
apart.
What
well-being
is?
D
We
know
that
kids
need
help,
I
mean
and
that's
what
we're
doing
we're
helping
kids
period.
So
I
don't
want
to
kind
of
get
into
this
back
and
forth
about
you
know,
let's
define
exactly
what
well-being
means.
We
know
that
kids
need
help.
These
wrap-around
services
come
in
and
they
provide
the
assistance
so
that,
when
the
kids
show
up
to
school,
you
know
they're
ready
to
actually
learn
and
that's
what
I've
witnessed.
D
When
I
was
a
teacher
and
I
had
cis
in
my
classroom,
I
think
that's
what
you've
heard
from
commissioner
powell
and
some
of
the
conversations
she's
had
with
her
superintendent
as
well
as
the
principal
or
school
board
president
and
then
also
kind
of
what
alex
explained.
Also
in
terms
of
kind
of
what
cis
does.
J
So
when
we're
talking
about
using
a
mental
health
grant,
we
might
also
be
using
that
to
buy
toothbrushes
or
something
else
other
than
what
we
would
call
mental
health
services.
J
And
my
concern
with
this
is
not
that
not
that
the
kids
don't
need
help
and
the
kids
don't
need
services
for
well-being,
which,
of
course
they
do,
but
to
this
particular
grant,
which
is
supposed
to
be
a
mental
health
grant,
because
it
says
mental
health
in
the
title.
So
I
assume
that's
what
it
is,
even
if
we're
using
it
essentially
diverting
money
from
mental
health,
strictly
mental
health
to
general
well-being,
which
could
mean
anything.
D
D
We've
used
some
of
our
counselors
here
at
the
county.
We
have,
you
know,
talked
to
oca
chan
to
get
their
counselors
to
really
support
a
community.
I
think
that
we're
going
to
have
an
initiative
that
we're
going
to
bring
forward.
I
wish
that
we
could
have
bought
this
initiative
for
today,
but
it
wasn't
ready
to
bring
forth.
D
You
know
after
conversations
with
a
few
commissioners,
so
we
have
put
that
on
the
table
so
that
we
can
kind
of
continue
to
work
through
that
and
address
some
of
the
concerns,
but
when
we
think
about
mental
health
from
a
county-wide,
I
do
believe
that
we
have
an
initiative
that
we're
going
to
bring
forth
in
january.
That's
going
to
address
that
going
back
to
the
well-being,
mental
health
and
well-being,
I
would
say
yeah,
I
I
have
seen
you
know
a
kid
come
to
school.
D
Without
you
know
it
could
be,
it
could
be
without
you
know,
a
backpack
it
could
be.
Without
you
know,
resources
to
be
successful
at
school.
It
could
be
without
a
toothbrush.
You
know
that
kid
does
not
come
equipped
to
learn
there.
There
is
a
mental
health
impact
on
a
kid
when
a
kid
feels
as
though
I
don't
belong,
because
I
don't
have
right,
there
is
a
mental
health
impact
to
that
I've
seen
it
I've
taught
it
I've
experienced
it.
D
You
know.
So
when
we
talk
about
well-being,
well-being
may
be
very
different
from
for
you
than
what
well-being
would
be
for
gary
mcgivery.
Those
are
two
very
different.
You
can't
you
can't
define
well-being,
you
know,
well-being
is
defined
by
the
individual
and
how
that
individual
feel
you
know
in
in
their
own
space
in
their
own
skin,
and
so
what
I
think
this
organization
does
is
not
profit.
Does
it
addresses
some
of
those
gaps
and
holes
to
make
kids
whole
so
when
they
come
to
school?
D
A
All
right,
commissioner,
kowal
did
you
have
a
question.
G
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
did,
and
I
guess
I
do
have
a
lot
of
questions.
First
of
all,
does
it
say
in
here?
Are
these
grade
schools
middle
school,
high,
school.
I
So
the
the
process
is
that
we
work
with
the
district
superintendent
and
the
superintendent
decides
which,
which
school
is
is
best
suited
to
for
the
program
in
pontiac.
We
started
at
the
high
school
and
then
got
funding
to
go
to
the
middle
school,
so
it
would
be
up
to
the
to
the
superintendent.
G
Thank
you
and
I
received
before
oxford
happened.
This
is
what
going
back
oh
several
weeks
ago,.
G
From
a
huron
valley,
school
parent
in
regards
to,
she
was
questioning
the
50
000
that
we
appropriated,
because
she
was
looking
to
have
you
know
an
assembly
in
milford
high
school,
where
a
10th
grader
had
just
committed
suicide,
and
they
found
that
these
assemblies
to
be
quite
helpful
because
they
can
be
kind
of
presented
in
a
maybe
in
a
fun
way
or
just
like,
and
it
seems
to
really
have
an
impact.
G
So
I'm.
G
And
then
you
know
for
what
you
said
about
the
response
for
oxford
and-
and
you
know,
that's
wonderful-
that
we're
doing
that
you
know
and
that
we
have
the
resources
to
do
that.
I
think
the
ultimate
goal
here,
though,
is
prevention,
so
we
don't
have
to
respond
to
these
things.
We
can
do
everything
we
can
not
to
so
I
I'm
probably
going
to
vote
for
this
today,
but
with
the
expectation
that,
in
january,
you'll
be
coming
forward
with
something
that
is
going
to
help
all
our
schools,
all
our
communities,
mental
health.
G
Doesn't
you
know
it
doesn't
know
any
economic
boundaries,
it
doesn't
know
any
geographical
boundaries,
it
doesn't
it
just
every.
You
know,
you
never
know
who's
having
problems.
I'm
getting
pretty
worked
up
about
this
because
we
can't
delay
any
longer.
We
have
to
really
really
pay
critical
attention
to
this
and
put
some
wholehearted
efforts
into
prevention.
D
G
J
Very
short:
yeah,
I'm
not
going
to
vote
for
this,
and
the
reason.
Why
is
not
that?
I
think
that
well-being
is
not
important.
Well-Being
is
very
important,
but
I
believe
mental
health
money
should
be
used
for
mental
health
and
if
we
are
going
to
address
well-being
in
in
these
communities-
which
I
think
we
should
do,
then
let's
appropriate
money
for
and
let's
have
a
well-being
grant
and
let's
if
we
have
to
take
money
from
somewhere
else,
that's
fine.
J
Let's
do
that
and
let's
prioritize
it
and
let's,
let's
send
the
money
for
well-being
so
that
when
we
say
we're
having
a
mental
health,
grant
we're
not
using
it
for
something
other
than
mental
health,
and
I
think
that
we
should
be
funding
well-being
so
that
if
the
kids
need
a
toothbrush
or
a
backpack
to
learn,
then
we
get
them
those
things,
but
we
don't
get
them
by
using
mental
health
money
that
we're
sending
to
something
else.
J
So
yeah,
I'm
about
no
on
this
and
that's
why
and
it's
not
because
it's
a
bad
thing,
but
because
really,
if
you're
going
to
have
mental
health
money
use
it
for
mental
health
programs.
Thank
you.
You're
welcome.
A
Anybody
else
I'm
just
going
to
comment
what
I
like
about:
what
you've
done
is
you're
working
with
an
organization
that
is
already
established
and
already
in
these
schools
of
high
risk
and
leveraging
dollars
that
are
already
out
there.
So
we're
not
just
throwing
money
at
a
problem.
We
we
have
244
million
dollars
worth
of
arpa
money
and
to
me
this
is
a
good
step.
A
I
am
very
excited
to
hear
you
say
you're
going
to
come
to
us
in
january
with
a
plan
for
mental
health
across
the
county
for
all
the
schools,
because
I
think
you
know
we're
all
getting
lots
of
questions
about
that.
We
all
know
our
communities
are
all
upset
and
angry
and
hurt
and
scared,
and
all
of
the
mental
health
things
that
are
contributing
and
of
course
oxford
was
just
you
know
impossible
to
describe
how
everybody's
feeling
about
that.
So
I
think
we
can
support
oxford
today
with
everything
that
we
can
put
to
them.
A
Oakland
county,
thankfully,
is
better
equipped
than
just
about
anybody
to
be
able
to
support
an
organ,
a
school
in
our
community
in
our
county.
So
I
would
challenge
you
to
do
everything
we
can
and
then
some
to
support
oxford,
but
I'm
going
to
support
this
resolution
because
I
do
think
in
some
ways
you
are
moving
out
quickly.
This
was
an
established
program
that
you
could
link
up
with
that
could
do
something
and
we're
not
waiting
to
reinvent
or
move
out.
A
So
I'm
I'm
supporting
this
because,
mainly
because
of
the
communities
and
schools
organization
that
has
their
act
together
and
we're
partnering
with
them.
So
if
nobody
else
has
any
other
comments,
let's
prompt,
oh
commissioner,
kowal.
G
Thank
you
to
what
you
just
said
about.
You
know
that
they
are
already
boots
on
the
ground.
They're
already
involved,
I
mean.
Are
there
any
other
organizations
that
would
qualify
for
this
and
be
more
geared
towards
just
mental
health.
A
A
Motion
carries
thank
you.
Okay,
thanks
for
running
over
here,
mr
hobbs,
and
thank
you,
ms
figueroa,
for
your
information
yeah.
Thank
you
for
your
consideration.
B
A
B
A
Okay,
so
the
next,
let's
just
keep
going.
The
next
item
is
the
revised
policy
for
review
and
participation
in
downtown
development
authorities,
corridor
improvement
authorities,
local
development,
financing
authorities
and
limitations
on
tax
capture
by
all
tiff
authorities.
I
need
a
motion,
commissioner
moss
supported
by
commissioner
powell.
A
This
is
a
policy
that
came
before
the
tif
committee
earlier
today
modifying
our
current
policy
to
match
up
with
the
revised
state
policy.
So
we
have
mr
dibiase
here
with
us
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
might
have
related
to
this.
I
will
open
it
up
to
the
floor
unless
you
want
mr
dibiase
to
commissioner
moss.
J
Yeah,
this
is
a
revised
policy.
Can
you
very
quickly
tell
us
what
you're
changing
and
why
you
know
from
a
it's
from
number
one
to
number
two,
just
just
real
quick.
What
are
you
changing
and
why.
M
Yeah,
absolutely
the
the
genesis
of
this
commissioner
was
that
in
2019
what
happened
is
the
state
passed
act
57
and
act?
57
in
essence
incorporated
what
was
nine
separate
acts
which
governed
quarter
authorities
ddas,
lsd,
da's?
M
They
were
all
under
nine
separate
acts
in
different
parts
of
the
books
and
there
were
some
confusion,
so
what
they
did
is
they
incorporated
all
of
these
particular
entities,
with
the
exception
of
brownfield
under
act
57,
so
that
there
was
one
act
that
could
be
referenced,
our
our
policies
that
existed
still
made
references
to
these
old
and
subsequently
repealed
laws
with
regard
to
those
of
those
separate
entities.
M
So
we
what
started
this
whole
process
in
motion
was
we
had
a
couple
of
projects
in
the
pipeline
that
that
the
ad
hoc
committee
needed
to
review
and
we
felt
that
we
needed
to
update
the
policy
to
incorporate
and
reference
the
statute
that
was
in
in
fact,
in
effect,
the
major
changes.
Just
to
give
you?
Oh,
let
me
let
me
back
up
just
quickly.
The
act
57,
commissioner,
didn't
make
a
lot
of
substantive
changes
to
the
way
cias
and
ddas
were
handled.
M
What
they
did
was
they
added
additional
reporting
requirements
that
pertain
to
those
those
particular
authorities,
because
there
were
some
questions
that
was
raised
in
the
minds
of
the
legislature,
about
the
amount
of
transparency
in
terms
of
how
the
money
was
was
being
spent
and
what
projects
that
was
being
allocated
for.
So
there
are
enhanced
reporting
requirements
and
those
are
also
reflected
in
in
this
policy.
M
But
in
essence,
the
biggest
couple
of
changes
was
in
the
the
purpose
other
than
other
than
referencing
the
correct
act
and
making
some
typographical
changes
in
the
purpose
section,
which
is
section
one.
What
the
what
the
group
that
worked
on
this
felt
would
be
helpful.
M
Was
we
put
provision
in
there
that
said
that
the
standards
set
forth
in
this
policy
are
intended
to
be
used
as
a
guide
and
should
not
be
interpreted
as
a
guarantee
that
the
county
will
or
will
not
opt
out
of
tax
capture,
that
it
is
acknowledged
and
understood
by
both
the
applicant
and
the
county
that
each
plan
presents
unique
considerations
not
specifically
set
out
within
which
must
be
addressed
during
the
review
process.
So
every
every
plan
is
unique.
There's
no
real.
M
So
at
the
end
of
section
one
we
put
in
a
provision
that
said
nothing
in
this
policy
is
to
be
construed
as
creating
an
obligation
on
the
part
of
the
county
to
enter
into
any
negotiations
or
contractual
arrangements
with
any
entities
allowing
revenue
capture.
Nor
is
it
to
be
construed
as
creating
any
entitlement
to
a
contractual
arrangement
on
behalf
of
any
authority.
M
So
the
mere
fact
that
we're
entering
into
negotiations
and
seeing
if
there's
an
appropriate
basis
for
a
contract
that
we
can
in
good
faith,
recommend
back
to
the
board
of
commissioners
is
not
the
same
as
saying
that
that
particular
community
is
guaranteed
that
such
a
contract
will
be
approved
by
the
board
of
commissioners,
and
I
wanted
to
cut
any
any
argument
to
that
effect
off
of
the
past
other
than
that.
The
biggest
other
two
changes
were
in
section,
six
opt
out
in
potential
negotiations,
and
we
discussed
this
at
some
length
a
couple
of
hours
ago.
M
Actually
in
the
tiff
committee
meeting
the
under
the
statute,
the
typical
procedure
would
be
that
when
there's
a
public
hearing
in
front
of
the
local
body
to
consider
the
use
of
a
tip
for
an
authority,
then
from
that
point
the
clock
starts
ticking
and
the
county
has
60
days
to
pass
a
resolution
opting
out
so
stan.
What
had
happened
here
before
was
in
almost
every
case
that
I'm
aware
of-
and
I
haven't
been
with
the
county
that
long,
but
I've
been
with
other
municipalities.
M
There
would
be
an
almost
automatic
resolution
to
opt
out
and
then
later
on,
there
would
be
a
resolution
to
initiate
negotiations,
and
if
negotiations
were
successful,
then
there
would
be
another
resolution
to
approve
the
contract
as
a
practical
matter
to
try
to
arrive
at
a
contract
in
the
first
60
days
so
that
we
don't
have
to
opt
out
or
jeopardize
our
right
to
opt
out
is
not
it's
just
not
realistic.
M
By
the
time
you
assemble
all
the
information
you
have
a
chance
to
read
the
proposal,
ask
follow-up
questions
and
then
get
approval,
not
just
from
the
county
committees,
but
from
the
local
communities
that
has
to
go
through
their
particular,
their
planning
commission,
their
their
their
township
board
or
city
council.
Whatever
it
is
coming
up
with
something
in
60
days,
is
not
really
realistic.
M
So
what
was
suggested
instead
by
the
members
of
our
of
our
work
group,
which
included
mr
mr
ward,
was
upon
receipt
of
notice
that
there
would
be
the
board
chair
for
the
tip
ad
hoc
committee
would
recommend
that
a
resolution
be
initiated
in
the
finance
committee
recommending
that
the
county
opt
out
of
capture
in
the
manner
provided
by
the
act,
an
authorizing
corporation
counsel,
to
enter
into
negotiations
and
attempt
to
establish
a
contract
permitting
capture
of
the
county's
taxes
based
upon
the
criteria
set
forth
in
the
policy.
M
M
And
if
those
negotiations
were
acceptable
to
the
tif
committee,
then
it
would
go
back
through
to
the
finance
committee
and
also
to
the
ultimately
to
the
board
of
commissioners.
M
So
that
really
brings
the
process
in
line
which,
with
what
is
happening
on
the
ground,
which
happens
as
a
practical
matter,
to
try
to
come
up
with
a
contract
from
start
to
finish,
it's
acceptable
and
approved
by
both
the
local
communities.
The
the
authority
and
in
the
county
in
60
days
is,
is
not
practical,
so
this
kind
of
eliminates
some
of
the
time
pressure
and
and
and
makes
the
process
a
little
less
cumbersome.
M
M
We
said
that
we
had
language
to
preserve
the
possibility
that
we
might
put
other
other
points
in
the
contract
beside
what's
enumerated
in
section
12.,
but
in
subsection
three
we
made
our
requirement
for
financial
information
in
line
with
what
was
passed
in
in
act
57,
so
under
act
57,
the
local
community
has
to
provide
a
certain
information
packet,
a
financial
information
packet
to
the
state
every
year.
M
So
what
we
said
is
well
they're,
providing
it
to
the
state
provided
to
us
too.
I
mean
it.
It's
it's
easy
to
incorporate
just
about
everything
that
we
would
need
to
know,
but
then,
in
subsection
b
we
left
some
room
for
information
that
might
be
particular
to
a
a
specific
project.
That
would
not
be
something
that
the
state
would
require
reporting
on,
for
example,
if
in
the
contract
a
community
was
going
to
use
the
funds
to
build
a
parking
structure,
we
might
include,
as
part
of
the
contract,
keep
us
apprised
of
your
timetable.
M
Your
land
acquisition,
your
your
construction
schedule.
When
you
anticipate
that
this
will
be
finished,
those
would
not
be
things
that
would
necessarily
go
to
the
to
the
state
as
part
of
their
reporting
requirement,
but
in
in
terms
of
managing
management
of
our
contract
with
the
local
community.
M
This
is
the
procedure
that
we
will
utilize
to
evaluate
those
projects
and
come
up
with
a
recommendation
for
this
committee,
so
just
it
just
needed
to
be
brought
in
line
with
with
the
current
state
of
the
law
and
with
the
current
policies
that
we
think
are
advisable.
A
Okay,
next
on
the
agenda
is
item
12b
changes
to
the
fiscal
year,
2021
apportionment
of
local
tax
rates.
I
need
a
motion
commissioner
kowals
supported
by
commissioner
moss.
A
I'm
sorry,
okay,
so
we
have
kyle
jenn
lynn
sanchez
and
it
looks
like
ann
grady
with
us
good
morning.
Hi.
You
want
to
give
us
a
quick
rundown
of
what
this
is
about.
M
Correct,
yes,
absolutely
so
this
report,
as
a
report
you
saw
just
a
month
ago,.
A
Okay,
can
we
stop
for
a
second
here,
so
we're
not
going
to
have
a
quorum
when
she
leaves
right?
So
we
can't
do
business.
B
A
J
B
A
So
what
patty
is
suggesting
is
that
we
could
approve
all
of
the
items
b
c.
Let's
see.
A
We
could
approve
all
those
and
then
have
the
discussion,
but
I'm
seeing
heads
shaking
over
here
that
they
don't
want
to
do
that.
They.
G
B
A
G
A
H
L
J
A
We
don't
have
a
quorum,
but
we
can
go
so
we're
moving
b
c
d
and
e
12,
b,
c
d
and
e
to
a
subsequent
meeting
as
well
as
item
13,
which
is
the
closed
session
to
that
subsequent
meeting.
Okay,
do
I
need
a
motion
to
do
that.
A
C
C
C
I
actually
have
extreme
concerns
also
about
the
I.t
contracts.
Most
of
them.
I
apparently
don't
even
come
here.
I
actually
have
concerns
about
the
civic
new
data
management
tool
you
have
because
it
no
longer
seems
to
allow
the
ability
to
know
what
version
of
a
document
package
you
have
or
when
it
was
modified.
Last,
that's
a
serious
problem
for
me
because
we
had
repetitive
problems
in
the
prior
system
that
we
know
for
sure,
because
the
staff
was
kind
enough
to
keep
track
of
version
numbers
and
the
date
and
time.
The
last
item
was
modified.
C
C
I
don't
understand,
I
really
feel
you
need
to
look
at
the
citizens,
have
discussions
and
have
an
understanding
of
what
they
want,
because
what
they
want
is
not
radical
agendas.
We
want
law
enforcement
support
and
we
want
fairness
for
100
of
our
citizens,
not
only
the
ones
that
happen
to
be
agree
with
your
political
views.
C
So
I
really
am
very
concerned
about
a
lot
of
the
things
transpiring
still
in
the
county.
I
do
see
there
are
some
positive
changes.
I
was
thankful
to
see
a
big
increase
in
the
sheriff's
budget
yesterday,
thankfully,
ironically,
right
before
the
oxford
attack,
but
there
are
obviously
too
many
things
in
our
society
that
we
need
to
be
working
in
unison.
We
need
to
work
as
a
team,
we
need
to
work
with
consensus,
and
this
is
not
what
I've
seen
at
all
since
april
28th,
the
first
time
I
logged
into
your
web
page.
C
It
scares
me
that
I
found
so
many
concerns
as
far
as
transparency
and
openness
with
the
citizens
and
the
fact
that
you
only
consider
18
hours
sufficient
to
go
through
a
thousand
or
more
pages
of
documentation
to
have
any
understanding.
What's
going
on
with
your
county
is
absolutely
offensive
to
the
citizens.
C
I
would
request
that
we
get
four
two
weeks
notice
on
anything
possible.
There's
a
lot
of
pages
involved,
there's
a
lot
of
data
involved
and,
as
you
can
see,
citizens
are
increasingly
showing
up
to
tell
you
they're
not
happy
with
what
you're
doing
here.
So
I
do
think,
there's
a
real
big
concern
and
then
it
just
got
exacerbated
yesterday.