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A
Of
the
United
States
of
America
and
to
the
Republic
for
which
it
stands,
one
nation
under
God
indivisible
with
liberty
and
justice
for
all,
okay,
commissioner
Cavalier
Gould
good,
looking
I'm
thinking.
Next
up,
we
have
approval
of
two
sets
of
minutes
from
September
14th
to
29th,
moved
by
commissioner
McGillivray,
supported
by
commissioner
Moss.
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A
A
G
Seriously,
though,
we
do
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
kind
of
make
a
public
presentation
about
something
that
some
of
us
individually
have
talked
about,
but
we
really
feel
is
of
critical
importance
to
the
county,
not
only
in
terms
of
the
wealth
of
our
employees
and
the
people
that
we
serve,
but
also
in
terms
of
our
fiscal
health
and
our
and
our
fiscal
future.
So
we're
going
to
kind
of
run
you
through
as
a
team
this.
This
presentation
on
the
the
the
the
capital
Improvement
plan
analysis
that
we
asked
plant
Moran
to
do.
G
You'll
remember
it
was
really
just
a
few
short
years
ago
when
County
detective
culture
was
appointed.
There
were
a
few
lingering
things
that
people
thought
we
would
take
to
the
rating
agency.
You
go
out
to
the
market
to
bond,
for
one
was
the
radio
project
which
you
all
supported
and
we
ultimately
did
go
and
receive
financing
to
advance
the
radio
program.
But
we
thought,
in
terms
of
the
capital
needs
it
made
sense
to
First,
do
an
assessment
of
all
of
our
needs,
so
we
knew
what
we
were
grappling
with.
G
So,
with
the
board
support,
we
issued
an
RFP
and
brought
in
plant
Moran
to
do
that.
Analysis
and
I
think
you
will
find
that
it
is.
You
know,
very
comprehensive,
very
daunting,
but
really
important
for
us
to
stay
on
the
scope
of
the
County's
Capital
needs.
So
April
is
going
to
go
over
just
the
scope
of
the
work
that
we
asked
plant
Moran
to
undertake.
E
Thank
you
again,
April
Lynch,
Deputy,
County
Executive.
One
of
the
things
that
was
really
important
to
us
is
make
sure
that
we
again,
as
Hillary,
said,
understood
what
we
need
now
and
what
we
need
in
the
future
as
we
start
to
prepare
for
our
CIP
process.
One
of
the
things
that
we
wanted
to
make
sure
is
is
a
much
greater
overview
of
our
building.
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
had
is
we
had
plant
Moran
come
in
and
do
a
major
study.
As
it
looks
at
all
of
our
of
our
entire
campus.
E
E
They
were
doing
that
analysis
is
break
it
down
for
us
understanding
what
we
need
to
do
today,
what
we
need
to
do
tomorrow
and
what
could
wait
until
the
future
and
so
what
they
did
is
they
came
in
and
looked
at.
They
toured
our
buildings.
They
looked
at
all
of
any
studies
that
we'd
have.
We
had
had
done
over
the
last
course
of
the
a
few
years
conditions
assessments,
Paving
assessment.
H
G
A
G
A
G
E
G
I
It
sure
so
what
you
see
here
is
an
example
of
the
assessment
that
was
done
for
each
one
of
our
facilities
and
as
April
mentioned,
it
was
also
done
for
our
grounds
and
utilities.
But
this
is
the
old
Pontiac
health
building
and
you
can
see
on
the
right
hand,
side
excuse
me
the
categories
that
they
looked
at
so
their
site
there's
a
building
envelope,
which
is
the
building
exterior
the
roof,
the
the
facade,
the
doors,
the
windows
next
slide.
I
You
can
see
interior
finishes,
Plumbing
Systems
HVAC
systems
and,
on
the
next
slide,
electrical
systems,
security
and
safety,
any
abatement
that
would
be
required,
furniture
and
equipment
and
then
technology
and
then
the
last
section
would
be
owner's
costs,
AE
fees,
contingencies,
permitting
Etc
and
then
at
the
top
towards
the
right,
the
columns
you
can
see
where
they
prioritize
the
the
needs
that
April
had
mentioned
earlier,
where
there's
a
critical
need
of
what
should
be
done
in
in
the
first
three
years
and
then
what
can
be
deferred
to
four
to
six
and
seven
to
ten
years
and
again.
J
Right
so
this
table
here,
you
know,
takes
all
those
numbers
that
Ed
just
talked
about
for
the
health
center,
and
then
you
know
this
breaks
it
down
by
building.
So
all
40
of
our
buildings,
plus
plus
each
of
those
categories
Ed
just
talked
about
you-
can
see
at
the
far
right
right
column.
Almost
every
building
has
a
price
tag
of
a
million
or
two
million
dollars,
and
it
goes
up
from
there.
J
We
wanted
to
kind
of
highlight
some
of
the
bigger
areas
that
we're
going
to
have
to
to
to
to
to
figure
out
how
to
tackle
so
the
Children's
Village.
You
know
there
are
nine
different
buildings
that
are
part
of
Children's
Village.
So
if
you
add
those
up
you're
talking
about
approximately
30
million
dollars,
the
the
courthouse
building
here
is
kind
of
a
you
know.
Perhaps
the
biggest
elephant
in
terms
of
of
its
age
and
some
of
the
limitations
in
terms
of
space
and
so
forth.
J
You
know
those
are
big
numbers,
but
but
also
get
you
up
over
100
million
dollars
before
we
even
talk
about
any
any
potential
new
facilities,
and
then
lastly,
you
know
the
Health
Center
buildings
in
total
are
about
50
million
dollars.
Those
are
some
of
our
older
buildings
that
factor
into
that
54-year
average.
J
So
then
some
charts
to
kind
of
bring
you
know
the
numbers
up
by
category
of
of
cost.
This
this
first
chart
shows
you
how
those
different
categories
break
down
in
total
across
all
the
facilities.
J
J
I
won't
go
through
each
of
these
bars,
but
you
know
the
the
the
the
the
large
bar
there
is
the
HVAC
systems
again
as
a
function
of
having
older
buildings
and
not
just
always
being
you
know,
the
most
complex
and
expensive
part
of
the
inside,
of
a
building,
smaller
numbers
and
the
scope
of
this
chart.
J
You
know
this
is
kind
of
a
technical
thing,
just
the
way
in
terms
of
the
way
Plant
laid
the
costs
out,
that
137
million
really
needs
to
be
spread
across
each
of
those
other
bars,
because
those
are
you
know,
architectural
and
Engineering
costs,
construction
management
costs
and
contingency
amount
that
needs
to
be
applied
to
each
project.
So
each
of
those
bars
at
left
really
needs
to
be
increased
by
by
roughly
a
third,
as
that
137
gets
spread,
so
in
total.
This
is
this
is
what
plant
is
calling
our
non-discretionary
needs
things.
J
We
need
to
do
just
to
get
our
current
facilities
back
up
to
standards
and
we're
at
549
million
dollars
there.
If
you
break
down
those
non-expressionary
needs
by
time
period.
You
know
we've
got
a
balloon
in
the
next
three
years
of
about
184
million
dollars
that
does
go
down
a
bit.
You
know
by
more
than
half
for
the
four
to
six
year
period
at
83
million
dollars
and
then
kind
of
shoots
back
up
at
the
tail
end
of
those
10
years.
At
282
million
dollars
are.
J
We
don't
owe
anyone
or
anything
just
in
terms
of
you
know,
you
know
we'll
talk,
we'll
talk
on
a
few
slides
about
how
much
we're
spending
now
and
how
much
you
know.
So,
if
you
compare
what
we're
spending
now
to
that
184,
that's
why
I'm
saying
okay,
okay,
I'm
using
that
term.
J
All
right
so
we're
moving
now
to
the
the
you
know,
the
potential
discretionary
projects
that
are
out
there
and
I
think
each
of
these
you
know,
has
been
part
of
some
level
of
conversation.
J
You
know
between
the
administration
and
the
board
and
other
elected
officials.
This
kind
of
puts
all
those
numbers
on
one
page
to
purchase
the
court
building
in
Novi,
which
we
currently
lease
would
be
eight
million
dollars
to
build
a
new
court
building
in
Clarkston
would
be
27
million
dollars,
and
there
was
a
separate
assessment
on
that.
You
know
which
we've
also
shared.
That
shows
a
few
options,
but
unfortunately
you
know
all
of
them
at
this
point
at
least
have
a
price
tag
of
about
that
magnitude.
J
A
new
9-1-1,
Dispatch,
Center
and
Emergency
Operations
Center
is
69
million
dollars.
A
new
training
center
and
storage
facility
for
the
sheriff's
office
is
68
million
dollars
and
then
the
building
that
the
Water
Resource
could,
commissioner,
is
interested
in
for
for
Central,
Administration
and
operations
is
also
up
over
60
million
dollars,
and
it's
the
same.
You
know
technical
caveat
on
that
direct
cost
piece.
J
Those
are
costs
that
have
to
be
spread
across
each
of
those
projects,
so
each
of
those
individual
projects
is
really
about
a
third
higher
than
than
the
the
number
and
the
bar
on
this
chart.
B
Has
a
question
so
on
that
last
slide:
Bill
new
Clarkston
court
building,
wasn't
it
an
issue
with
the
land
I?
Guess
we
already
own
out
there?
That
is
not
buildable.
Is
that
including
that
lost
and
that's
why
this
is
high
or
are
we
looking
at
a
whole
separate
project?
There's.
G
A
I
can
we
can
share
with
you
this
separate
presentation
on
Clarkston.
They
gave
us
after
they
evaluated
the
space
they
have
now
and
the
space
they
need
in
the
years
ahead.
They
gave
us
four
options:
okay,
so
it
is
build
on
the
land
that
we
own,
which
you're
right
it.
It's
27
million
it's
by
a
new
piece
of
land
and
build
on
it,
which
is
still
around
27
million.
It's
Lisa
space
and
you
know
rehab,
that
space
to
meet
our
needs,
which
is
about
12
million
dollars.
G
So
they
gave
us
a
range
of
options.
It
doesn't
necessarily
include
you
know,
selling
that
property
which
unfortunately,
is
worth
less
than
we
paid
for
it.
This
point.
K
Cavell,
you
have
a
question
yeah,
just
just
for
clarification
and
forgive
me
if
you
covered
this
but
discretionary
projects,
then
this
is,
if
I
understand,
right
kind
of
everyone's
ask
and
you're
not
putting
a
value
judgment
on
them
at
this
point
other
than
like
a
like
you're,
not
saying
the
Clarkston
Courthouse
should
be
billed
or
it
should
not
be
built.
You're
saying
the
request
is
building
one.
The
quote
is
27
million
dollars.
That's.
J
So
those
projects
total
313
million
this
slide
here.
Compares,
then
just
those
two
big
numbers
you
know
so
the
549
for
the
things
that
we
kind
of
have
to
do
in
terms
of
our
current
buildings
and
the
313
for
new
buildings,
I.
Think,
as
we
reviewed
this
this
report,
you
know
the
313
wasn't
necessarily
a
big
surprise.
We
knew
that
the
you
know
there
was
interest
in
all
those
new
buildings
and
that
the
costs
had
likely
gone
up
over
the
last
few
years.
J
As
we've
seen,
you
know,
cost
escalation,
particularly
in
the
construction
industry,
I,
think
the
549
was
kind
of
the
eye-opener
for
us.
You
know
in
terms
of
the
size
of
the
need,
that's
there
for
our
current
buildings,
commissioner.
F
Yeah
I'm,
looking
at
the
budget
that
we
just
approved
the
capital
Improvement
program
which
simply
page
46
of
the
cliffs
notes-
and
you
know
I
understand
that
it
says
at
the
bottom
that
this
is
subject
to
change
based
on
the
ongoing
Capital
Improvement
program
study
that
was
authorized
by
miscellaneous
right
soon.
F
That's
what
this
is
so
the
amount
to
keep
a
mic
here,
the
amount
in
total
that
we
were
looking
at
when
we
approved
the
budget
was
200
and
about
260
million
dollars,
and
now
we're
looking
into
this
is
862
or,
if
you're,
only
talking
about
the
discretion
or
the
non-discretionary
549.
This
is
a
serious,
serious
escalation
in
terms
of
the
cost
over
what
it
was
when
we
were
approving
the
budget.
Correct.
I
J
J
J
But
as
we
look
back
historically,
you
know,
plant
Moran
is
telling
us
right
now
that
if
we
started
with
a
with
a
with
a
County,
Campus
and
well-maintained
condition,
we
should
really
be
spending
15
million
dollars
per
year,
which
would
go
up
over
time
with
inflation
just
to
maintain
that
level
and
as
we
look
back
over
the
20
in
the
the
the
past
20
years,
you
know
the
county
for,
for
a
number
of
reasons,
unfortunately,
has
only
been
spending
about
3
million
dollars
per
year.
So
you
know
I,
think
that's.
J
Why
we're
seeing
this
this
balloon
right
now
in
terms
of
things
that
have
have
been
pushed
off,
that
we
need
to
figure
out
how
to
tackle.
G
So
that
leads
us
to
the
last
portion
of
our
plan,
which
is
you
know
when
you're
faced
with
such
an
immense
challenge,
you
know:
how
are
we
going
to
tackle
it?
So
there's
a
few
things
that
we
want
to
leave
you
with
in
terms
of
additional
work
in
progress
and
then
what
we
have
been
tasked
to
do
by
by
the
county
executive,
so
April's
going
to
go
over
just
the
additional
work
that
we
think
could
factor
into
our
recommendations
again.
E
In
keeping
in
the
common
theme
of
knowing
the
whole
footprint
of
what
we
need
to
do
before
we
start
making
decisions,
we're
rounding
the
the
circle
here
on
a
couple
of
things
that
are
in
play
that
are
very
close.
Being
wrapped
up.
As
you
know,
we've
been
doing.
A
needs
assessment
as
well
as
it
relates
to
space,
making
sure
that
the
space
that
we're
using
is
utilized
at
its
best
using
the
potential
for
hybrid
work
models
to
allow
us
to
condense.
Some
buildings
maybe
take
some
Offline
that
is
very
close
to
the
Finish
Line.
E
One
of
the
things
we're
also
taking
a
look
at
is
what
is
called
a
master
land
use
plan.
Those
of
you
in
local
communities
probably
hear
a
lot
about
that,
but
it's
understanding
what
we
own
our
space,
our
in
in
as
it
relates
to
land
buildings
and
things
of
that
nature
and
having
a
comprehensive
plan
for
that
and
then,
of
course,
again
very
close
to
the
finality
of
the
campus-wide
environmental
sustainability
plan.
Can
we
put
some
things
in
play
there
that
can
help
offset
some
costs
and
also
making
sure
that
we
can
integrate
those
things?
E
B
Paul,
you
have
a
question
when
you
talk
about
the
master
land
use
plan.
Is
that
also
to
determine
like
buildings
that
we
may
want
to
sell
or
they
get
redeveloped
or
for
something
else,
because
we
may
not
need
it
yes,
correct
and
then
this
is
also
kind
of
tying
in
with
the
municipalities,
because
of
maybe
like
their
zoning
and
stuff
to
make
sure
what
we're
trying
to
do.
Okay,
great
yep,
absolutely.
G
Mr
Cowell's
here
so
we
wanted
once
we
had
the
comprehensive
study
because
we
have
been
referencing
it
so
much.
We
really
wanted
to
share
it
with
you
so
that
you
had
a
scope
of
what
we
were.
What
we
were
grappling
with,
what
we
are
now
doing
next
is
working
with
plant
Moran
in
terms
of
trying
to
refine
you
know
what
would
you
see
as
priorities?
G
We're
also-
and
you
know,
going
over
all
of
our
financial
options
and
and
Kyle
will
speak
to
to
those
for
a
bit,
but
our
goal
is
to
come
back
to
the
board
in
the
first
quarter
of
next
year
with
a
with
a
recommended
plan
in
terms
of
how
we
would
step-by-step
address
this
this
challenge.
So
that's
our
timeline
to
try
to
get
back
to
you
by
the
first
quarter
of
next
year.
You
want
to
talk
a.
J
Little
bit
Yeah
so
I
mean
on
the
financial
side.
You
know,
obviously,
first
we
have
to
determine
what
are
the
priorities
and
then
you
know
The
Next,
Step
Beyond.
That
is
determining
you
know.
What's
our
capacity
to
bond,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
the
bonding
is
obviously
not
free
money
and
we're
going
to
start
to
incur
annual
Debt
Service.
J
You
know,
along
with
our
goal,
that
we
achieved
this
year
of
getting
the
county
budget
into
into
structural
balance,
we're
going
to
make
sure
any
increases
in
debt
service
you
know
are
fit
within.
You
know
growth
or
other
space
that
we've
got
in
the
county
budget,
so
just
for
a
rule
of
thumb
at
current
interest
rates-
and
obviously
you
know,
interest
rates
have
shifted
and
are
continuing
to
shift,
but
at
current
interest
rates.
This
is
just
a
hypothetical
number
to
to
to
to
to
give
you
a
sense
of
magnitude.
J
Issuing
a
hundred
million
dollars
in
bonds
over
a
20-year
term
would
create
annual
Debt
Service
of
seven
to
seven
and
a
half
million
dollars
per
year.
So
that's
obviously
real
money.
J
You
know
that
we
would
have
to
find
in
our
ongoing
budget
the
the
first
step
we
did
take,
which
isn't
going
to
be
enough,
but
is
at
least
a
step
in
the
right
direction.
Is
the
budget
that
we
just
work
with
you
to
adopt
last
month
does
phase
up
that
annual
amount?
You
know
that's
in
the
budget
for
our
annual
CIP
from
three
million
to
8
million
over
five
years,
we're
going
to
have
to
revisit
you
know
how
do
we
continue
to
to
to
to
to
to
boost
that
number?
G
G
B
Right,
commissioner,
long
yeah
I
just
forgot:
when
did
we
start
this
project
here
with
planner
and.
B
F
B
G
In
the
non-discretionary
non-discretionary,
we
included
all
of
the
items
that
that
people
have
raised.
As
you
know,
it's
just
it's
in
the
discretion
and
I
might
and
I
would
add.
You
know
on
behalf
of
the
Water
Resource,
commissioner,
you
know
their
situation
is
a
little
bit
different,
because
while
there
would
be
general
fund
needed
to
finance
this
building
that
they
need
and
if
anyone's
ever
seen
the
video
of
what
they
have
to
do
to
get
their
vehicles
in
and
out
every
day,
I
mean
they.
You
know
people
have
needs.
G
We
understand
that
you
know
this
isn't
a
wish
list.
This
is
a
list
of
what
people
feel
are
fundamentally
their
needs
for
the
future.
Their
situation
is
a
little
bit
different
because
they
can
Finance.
You
know
some
of
what
they're
would
be
paying
off
in
that
building,
but
they
need
a
bit
of
a
general
fund
investment
to
make
it
happen.
Okay,.
L
H
Much
for
presenting
this
so
100.
B
Million
is
going
to
cost
us
around
seven
million
a
year
to
eight
million
a
year
for
20
years.
Right
right,
we
have
849
million
dollars
worth
of
CIP
needs,
so
we'll
just
keep
getting
behind
her
and
behind
her
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
but
I
mean
I,
guess
is
there
any
way
to
look
at?
Is
there
any
way
that
we
can
eventually
undertake
a
little
bit
of
a
bigger?
You
know
a
debt
I
know
we're
way.
I
think
we're
way
underneath
our
this.
G
Would
bond
for
something
bond
for
something
later
wrap
all
that
financing
together,
maybe
pay
more
in
the
early
years
less
in
the
outer
years?
Like
that's
what
we've
tasked
Kyle
with
figuring
out
like
okay,
it
wouldn't
just
be
bond
for
100,
wait
20
years
bond
for
another
hundred.
At
some
point,
you
got
to
figure
out
the.
E
G
F
Mr
bill
becomes
a
law
to
sound
like
Mr
Bond
becomes
it
not
not
James
Bond
Okay,
so
one
thing
you
know,
you're
doing
is
that
you
have
interest
rates,
are
not
going
down
in
fact,
they're
going
up
and
they're
probably
going
to
keep
going
up,
at
least
for
the
foreseeable
future.
Now
you
know
in
past
years
we
would
see
the
interest
rates
coming
down
and
we
would
refinance
essentially
didn't
use,
refinance
our
County
loans
at
a
more
advantageous
rate
because,
instead
of
them
being
whatever
the
heck,
they
were
in
1980.
F
You
know
where
they're
like
like
90
or
something
they
would
be
going
far
down
so
yeah,
and
that
may
happen
again,
and
so
the
bottom
line
is
that
you
are
I
hope
looking
at
the
fact
that
the
cost
of
money
is
going
up
and
whatever
the
amount
is
you're
you're
looking
at
it
at
the
snapshot
today
is
probably
going
to
be
worse
a
year
from
now
so
I
I,
don't
know,
I
had
the
answer
for
that,
but
that
is
I
believe
a
fact.
I
could
be
wrong,
but
I
don't
think
I
am
yeah.
J
I
think
that's
a
fair
statement.
I
mean
I
think
it's
between
between
interest
rates,
which
thankfully
haven't
gone
up
as
as
much
for
you
know
a
county
with
AAA
Bond
rating
as
I
think
it
has
for
others.
That's
a
factor
and
the
higher
construction
costs
are
a
factor,
although
those
have
started
to
come
down
a
little
bit
but
still
I,
think
well
above
where
they
were.
You
know
three
years
ago,
so
we're
we're
acutely
aware
of
all
these
variables
that
are
going
to
have
to
be
accounted
for
to
be
as
strategic
as
possible.
J
B
C
Yeah,
thank
you,
Oakland
County's,
world-class
County
and
Southfield.
To
me,
Public
Schools
is
a
world-class
school
district,
and
yet
we
still
find
ourselves
with
deferred
maintenance,
I
just
don't
quite
get
it
800
and
some
odd
Millions
500
of
it
is
non-discretionary
and
I
I've
just
started
to
learn
what
you
just
said
there
about
15.
Any
good
homeowner
would
spend
about
15
of
the
value
of
their
home
on
upkeeping
maintenance
on
an
annual
basis.
C
I
know,
most
of
us
are
not
doing
that
so
we're
just
a
a
country
of
deferred
maintenance
all
over
the
place.
C
So
my
question
is:
if
you've
got
that
800
million
and
we'll
just
play
with
the
549
for
now,
because
I'm
not
really
sure
about
the
313
in
that
regard,
so
I
was
here
so
I
guess
I'm
trying
to
say
is
how
do
you
change
the
tires
on
the
plane
in
the
air,
because
you're
you're
549
million
still
trying
to
figure
that
out
plus
each
year
that
15
have
you
put
to
any
thoughts
to
how
we
manage
that.
J
I
mean
I
think
it's
going
to
have
to
be
a
combination
of
things,
I
mean
I.
Think
it's
Hillary,
you
know
stated
we
wanted
to
get
you
this
assessment
as
soon
as
we
had
it,
I
don't
think
we're
all
the
way
or
even
halfway
there
in
terms
of
making
a
plan,
but
it's
going
to
have
to
be
a
combination
of
of
a
level
of
borrowing
of
a
level
of
increasing
what
our
annual
spend
is
each
year
and
it's
going
to
take
time
right.
It's
going
to
take
at
least
these
10
years.
J
C
Maybe
we
could
create
an
Oakland
County
token
and
put
it
on
the
crypto
market
and
everyone
in
Oakland
County
could
purchase
their
own
token
and
we'll
be
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Charles
I,
just
I
have
a
couple
of
questions:
the
first
one's
for
Mr
Joss.
What's
the
status
of
the
Steam
Plant
and
the
HVAC,
and
all
of
that,
what.
I
Are
you
thinking
well
I,
don't.
I
I'm
hesitating
to
it's
part
of
the
AECOM
plan
which
we've
been
Aaron,
has
received
the
next
version
of
that
which
is
being
reviewed
right
now,
so
I
don't
want
to
speak
too
much
to
that
because
for
one
I'm,
not
100
sure
I
do
know
that
that's
part
of
that
evaluation
and
there
are
numbers
in
the
CIP
study
that
account
for
that.
I
J
D
A
J
So
there's
a
couple
answers
here
so
like
the
technical
answer
is
that
we
can
have
outstanding
debt
up
to
10
of
our
total
taxable
value
in
the
county
and
we're
only
at
0.7
or
0.8.
I,
always
caution.
People,
that's
not
really
a
useful
way
of
looking
at
it,
because
that
same
10
percent
applies
to
a
city
or
a
school
district
that
has
a
much
higher
millage
rate
than
we
do.
J
So
you
really
want
to
look
at
this
in
the
context
of
as
a
percentage
of
your
budget,
and
in
that
case
you
know,
we
still
have
you
know
fairly
low
outstanding
debt
and
high
high
debt
capacity
and
I
don't
have
those
numbers
right
in
my
head,
but
the
key
thing
that
we're
keeping
an
eye
on
is
making
you
know
this
is
a
key
element
of
the
scorecard
that
the
two
rating
agencies
use
as
they're
evaluating
our
financial
position
and
giving
us
our
credit
rating,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
borrowing
at
a
pace
that
it
does
not
push
us
down
on
that
scorecard
and
potentially
threaten
the
AAA.
J
G
You
because
and
I
would
add
to
that,
even
though
we
have
had
a
growing
fund
balance,
it's
not
like
there
aren't
challenges
or
items
on
the
horizon
that
are
going
to
chat.
You
know
are
going,
are
going
to
impact
that
fund
balance
rafaeli,
for
example,
right,
even
though
we've
set
that
aside,
we
know
at
some
point
this
year,
you
all
are
going
to
have
to
appropriate
38
million
dollars
and
there's
other
things
out
there
on
the
horizon.
That
could
impact
the
fund
balance,
so
you
have
to
kind
of
factor
in
both
both
things.
G
K
B
F
Don't
give
me
that
that's
Debt
Service
yeah
I
was
found
when
you
referred
to
it
as
The
Vig.
It
worked
out
better.
You
know
people
like
that.
No
more
Leonard
novels,
here's
the
thing
our
revenue
or
most
of
our
revenue
of
course
comes
from
the
property
tax.
Everything
I'm
seeing
is
that
the
we
are
in
a
recession.
The
Christmas
season
is
looking
more
and
more
dismal.
The
chip
Market
is
falling
apart
and
property
values
are
starting
to
soften
now.
I
would
more
will
rely
on
our
on
our
realtor.
F
There
would
probably
know
firsthand.
Are
we
looking
by
the
county
looking
at
a
possible
challenge
to
our
revenue
from
property,
values
and
Equalization.
J
So
you
know
we
are
keeping
a
close
eye
on
all
those
variables
and
and
Michael
and
his
team,
you
know,
keep
us
updated.
I
think
you
know.
As
we
talked
about
during
the
budget
process,
we
tried
to
make
sure
that
you
know
the
the
assumptions
we
were
using
on
property
tax
revenues
and
the
budget
were
on
the
cautious
side.
Okay,
you
know
we
continue
to
see.
J
You
know
things
evolve.
Obviously
there
was
actually
a
good
article
in
Bloomberg
on
the
national
housing
market
yesterday
that
looked
at
all
the
variables
and
I
think
they're,
seeing
that
prices
are
going
to
flatten
out
with
with
mortgage
rates,
going
up,
however,
they're
still
very
limited
supply
of
houses
as
well.
J
You
know,
so
that's
gonna
that
that's
that
imbalance
between
demand
and
Supply
will
help
prop
up
housing
prices,
and
you
know
in
Michigan
as
much
as
as
much
as
proposal
a
has
been
a
frustration
on
the
upside.
It
does
provide
a
buffer
on
the
downside
that
you
know
for
most
houses,
there's
a
gap
between
assessed
value
and
taxable
value
so
that
even
if
assessed
values
you
know
do
fall,
there's
some
buffer
there.
So
from
our
perspective,
you
know
we're
being
very
diligent
and
monitoring
all
those
variables.
J
We
don't
see,
we
don't
see
an
immediate
threat,
you
know
to
our
property
tax
revenue
estimates.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
are,
do
you
have
any
thoughts
yet
on
closing
any
buildings,
or
are
we
still
everything's
just
kind
of
up
there.
I
Everything
is
still
kind
of
up
there,
but
we're
we're
close.
So
one
of
the
things
that
was
mentioned
in
the
work
in
progress
was
the
space
needs
assessment
which
we're
also
working
on
with
plant
Moran
and
they're,
very
close
to
wrapping
that
up,
so
that
space
needs
assessment
will
help
us
determine
that.
A
Engineer
by
training
and
in
my
head
I
love
this
that
we
actually
looked
at
the
whole
County
and
what
our
needs
really
are.
We
don't
like
the
answer
we
got,
but
at
least
we
know,
and
then
you
can
start
to
put
together
a
plan
that
says
when
we
start
to
spend
money,
we're
spending
it
right,
we're
spending
it
on
the
needs
that
we
have.
First
we're
not
just
you
know,
based
on
somebody's
personality
or
who
yells
at
us
the
most
when
they
come
to
this
table.
A
But
the
fact
that
there's
overall
going
to
be
a
strategy
for
how
we're
gonna
operate.
This
County
Complex
going
forward,
I
I,
think
there's
so
much
benefit
to
really
thinking
comprehensively
and
overall
about
all
of
this,
not
only
from
an
economic
standpoint
but
from
a
environmental
standpoint,
because
we
will
operate
this
County
more
efficiently
in
an
energy
way
once
this
is
all
done
also,
and
hopefully
we
can
reduce
some
of
our
overall
costs
long
term
by
getting
more
efficient
and
closing
some
buildings,
and
so
on
so
I
think
what
we've
done
here.
A
I
know
there
was
when
we
talked
about
doing
these
big
studies.
The
sustainability
study
and
the
building
utilization
study
there
was
some
pushback
that
you
know
do
we
really
need
to
spend
a
million
dollars
to
do
that,
but
I
think
in
the
long
run,
that's
going
to
be
a
drop
in
the
bucket
when
measured
against
the
benefit,
we're
going
to
get
long
term
from
having
done
it.
A
So
thank
you
for
doing
such
a
comprehensive
plan
or
review,
and
you
know
I
I
appreciate
what
what's
been
done
so
far
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
the
sustainability
report
and
building
utilization
report
and
all
of
that.
So
this
is
good,
stuff,
I.
Think
anybody
else
have
any
questions
or
comments.
Do
you
want
to
make
on
this?
A
A
F
B
M
M
That
was
back
in
June
at
that
time
and
until
now
they
they
haven't
found
somebody
to
take
over
the
position.
So
they've
approached
us
to
take
on
some
of
the
responsibility
and,
as
you
can
see
in
the
resolution
for
much
of
the
responsibility
it's
to
to
some
of
the
heavy
lifting
commercial
industrial
valuation
and
oversee
the
rest
of
the
responsibilities,
they
still
have
the
rest
of
their
staff,
which
is
a
pretty
sizable
staff.
They
just
want
us
to
do
primarily
commercial,
industrial
and
oversee
the
rest
of
the
residential
tribunal.
M
They'll
maintain
the
the
primary
responsibility
to
their
own
border
review
and
the
day-to-day
activities,
but
we'll
make
sure
they
they
are
over
doing
those
responsibilities
correctly,
but
we'll
take
them.
We've
we've
entered
into
an
engagement
agreement
that
you
have
before
you
that
will
take
them
through
the
assessment
process.
M
Take
them
through
March
Board
review
process
and
take
them
through
June,
which
takes
them
actually
through
to
the
next
database
that
will
get
them
to
starting
the
next
assessment
role,
which
we're
hoping
will
give
them
time
to
actually
go
out
and
decide
whether
they're
either
going
to
find
a
new
assessor
or
maybe
have
somebody
on
staff
to
be
able
to
fulfill
that
responsibility.
So
this
is
just
a
limited
service
agreement
to
get
them
to
hopefully
June
of
2023.,
and
we
should
just
mention
the
dollar
amount
yeah.
M
We
because
of
the
time
period
that
I
came
here.
Some
of
the
assessment
role
responsibility
was
done,
so
the
the
compensation
would
be
75
000
and
that's
because
they're
they
have
somebody
doing
their
personal
property
reason,
consulting,
which
was
their
their
personal
property
auditor
and,
like
I,
said
they
have
a
full-time
staff
there
for
the
rest
of
the
responsibilities.
J
A
B
Is
woman
chairwoman?
Is
this
a
savings
for
Nova
event
or
about
the
same.
M
B
B
M
M
If
they
were
to
extend
it,
we'd
have
there,
it
is
in
this
contract.
They'd
have
to
renegotiate
it,
because
this
is
not
like
a
a
swap
my
position
for
this.
This
duration.
It
would
have
been
a
much
greater
tuition
for
us
to
do
the
whole
assessor.
Just
my
role,
the
75
000,
wouldn't
have
been
just
for
so.
B
J
B
J
I
will
I
will
kick
this
one
off
and
then
and
then
let
Michael
answer
any
questions.
J
Sure
so,
as
some
Commissioners
who
were
here
last
term
may
recall,
there
were
some
State
statutory
changes
made
several
years
ago.
That
requires
each
County
to
have
a
designated
assessor.
There's
some
complexities
around
this,
but
basically
this
is
making
sure
that
every
local
unit
of
government,
in
you
know
in
the
state,
has
a
backup
person
who's
responsible
for
the
assessing,
in
that
local
unit
should
the
local
unit
you
know,
for
whatever
reason,
not
be
able
to
perform
those
as
hustling
Services
themselves.
J
I,
don't
think
this
has
been
an
issue
in
Oakland,
County
I
think
it's
a
function
of
probably
smaller
communities
and
other
areas
of
the
State,
so
that
there
is
a
process
to
determine
and
confirm
who
that
designated
assessor
is.
It
requires
a
a
majority
of
the
local
units
in
the
county
to
approve
the
individual
as
the
designated
assessor
and
then
requires
you.
J
You
know,
through
this
resolution,
to
confirm
that
so
Michael
and
his
team
have
started
that
process
as
he's
moved
into
the
role
here
with
the
county
and
and
this
resolution
would
kind
of
button
that
up
you
know
to
to
to
make
that
official
designation
for
Michael
moving
forward.
J
M
Have
any
questions
anything
there?
No,
it
was
very
clear,
I
mean
you
might
recall
back
in
about
2018.
We
had
a
lot
of
meetings
and
some
of
them
were
at
city
of
dovi.
The
past
history
was
the
STC
would
step
in
when
there
was
a
problem
with
a
community
having
an
assessor
and
then
charge
the
community.
M
A
lot
of
communities
didn't
like
that,
so
they
were
allowed
to
go
out
and
get
a
designated
assessor
in
Oakland
County
decided
that
if
they
had
a
majority
that
they
would
become
a
designated
assessor
and
kind
of
take
care
of
their
own
people
in
their
own,
their
own
backyard.
So
they
created
this
this
agreement
and
we
approached
the
State
Tax
Commission
and
said:
do
you
want
us
to
do
an
amendment
and
just
change
the
name
and
date?
M
Or
would
you
like
just
a
brand
new
agreement
and
they
said
well
you're
the
first
to
do
this
instances
started,
so
we
we
think
a
clean,
just
change,
changing
the
name
and
dates
would
be
the
cleanest
way
to
do
it.
So
that's
the
option
we
went
with.
So
this
is
like
the
identical
contract
that
you
last
signed
with
my
predecessor.
The
only
thing
we've
changed
is
the
date.
We've
kept
the
duration
the
same,
and
then
my
name
has
changed.
Nothing
else
has
changed.
C
It's
lowmeyer
yes,
ma'am
nice,
to
meet
you
and
potentially
welcome.
Thank
you.
So
how
public
facing
is
your
office?
Are
people
able
to
ask
you
questions
about
if
they
have
questions
about
property
lines
and
things
like
that?
Are
you
the
person
they
come
to
for
that,
or
is
it
more
about
the
value
of
their
property.
M
Or
110
open
door
policy,
you
can
call
me
direct,
you
can
call
any
of
the
staff
direct
but
yeah.
You
can
call
our
office
about
values.
You
can
call
our
office
about.
We
don't
do
surveys,
but
you
can
certainly
get
parcel
Maps
parcel
record
information.
That
shows
where
the
parcel
lines
are.
Whenever
there's
a
parcel
dispute,
we
usually
suggest
you
get
actually
a
survey
done,
because
our
our
maps
are
more
for
tax
purposes,
but
I'm
always
110
open
door
policy.
People
could
call
me
direct,
they
can
call
me.
M
C
Yeah
I
do
apologize.
You
said
it
so
quickly
that
it
kind
of
went
by
me
really
briefly,
but
you
know
certainly
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
putting
too
much
on
a
soul
to
to
be
able
to
do
all
this
stuff,
and
then
we
don't
match
it
up
with
compensation.
Just
seems
a
little
peculiar
to
me.
C
You
know
how
a
jobs
love
to
give
you
promotions,
but
does
it
come
with
any
kind
of
assistance
in
that
regard?
So
that's
not
lost
on
me
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
treat
our
folks
correctly
when
they're
doing
the
work,
so
accountants
have
schools,
I've
been
told,
I've,
Been,
Told.
M
J
You
thank
you
for
free,
but
we
do
pan
I'd
also
like
to
take
the
opportunity.
If
I
could
Madam
chair
to
thank
Terry
Schultz,
who
you
know
during
the
position
during
the
period
that
the
you
know,
the
the
position
was
vacant
to
Terry,
you
know
took
on
a
number
of
designations
in
terms
of
of
of
official.
You
know
things
that
happen
with
the
state
in
terms
of
paperwork
and
so
forth
and
did
take
on
some
additional
responsibilities.
So
I
didn't
want
to
let
that
go.
Unnoted.
A
Yes,
thank
you
to
all
of
you
and
you
know
it's
been
tough,
balancing
the
changes
in
the
department
and
all
that,
especially
right
on
top
of
the
assessing
period
of
time.
So,
okay,
if
there's
no
other
comments
or
questions,
let's
go
ahead
and
prompt
the
vote.
B
A
M
Yes,
this
is
the
the
22
apportionment
report,
which
is
basically
sorry
go
ahead,
which
is
again,
it
does
it'll
tell
you
what
all
the
tax
rates
are,
that
we've
collected
through
various
certificates,
statements
and
reports
from
all
of
our
taxing
authority
to
the
local
communities,
Villages
townships
and
cities.
M
It
also
shows
you
on
each
of
the
various
different
pages.
Those
have
been
reduced
by
that
different
Headley
functions,
except
for
like
it
discusses
on
the
very
first
page
Schoolcraft
Community
College,
which
is
not
further
reduced,
so
that
we
give
that
to
you
every
October
to
show
you
what
the
tax
rates
are
for
all
those
different
authorities,
so
that
for
budgeting
purposes,
that
will
be
applied
to
the
2022
taxable
values
for
all
those
different
communities.
M
A
I
would
like
to
make
just
a
general
comment
to
any
public.
That's
out
there.
We
did
not
raise
the
tax
rate
in
Oakland
County
this
year,
there's
been
sort
of
a
rumor
that
we
did.
We
did
not
raise
the
tax
rate
in.
J
So
if
you
haven't
had
a
chance
to
review
the
report,
you
know
the
section
that
starts
on
page
two
I
think
is
is
very
helpful
in
terms
of
seeing,
what's
you
know,
what's
the
tax
rate
in
each
locality
or
for
each
Authority
for
2022?
How
does
that
compare
to
2021?
And
why
did
it
change?
J
And
you
know
as
you're
aware,
the
only
the
only
way
you
can
go
up
is,
if
there's
a
vote
of
the
people
or
if
there's
a
you
know,
if
there's
a
change
in
a
Debt
Service
payment,
not
on
a
debt
knowledge,
so.
A
N
Good
morning,
Commissioners,
so
as
as
you
saw
in
the
the
resolution,
as
well
as
the
summary
Peninsula
fiber
network
was
contracted,
went
through
a
competitive
bid
process
that
was
Statewide.
N
Those
surcharges
are
established
through
a
combination
of
state
law
as
well
as
additional.
We
at
the
local
level
can
also
Implement
a
slight
a
small
additional
charge.
Those
charges
on
your
phone
bills
that
are
for
9-1-1
service
go
to
the
state
through
the
telcos.
Your
ATT,
your
Verizon,
you
know
whoever
you
have
phone
service
with,
that
money
goes
to
the
state
from
the
telcos
and
then
the
state
reimburses
pfn
for
the
cost
of
this
infrastructure.
N
So
that's
basically
being
done
as
I
mentioned
in
every
County
at
the
moment,
except
for
Macomb,
and
it
looks
like
Macomb
will
also.
G
N
With
this
network,
so
the
the
basic
premise
of
this
contract
is
we
Oakland
County
and
every
County.
Every
entity
that
manages
a
9-1-1
service
has
to
provide
a
contract
that
then
pfn
takes
to
the
state
that
shows
that
they
are
actually
providing
the
service.
That's
part
of
the
process
they
go
through
to
get
reimbursed
from
these
911
funds.
N
So
that's
a
state
requirement.
It
is
not
a
state
requirement
that
we
have
a
10-year
contract,
but
it
does
simplify
the
reimbursement
process
and
and
the
easier
we
make
that
for
the
state
and
that's
the
intent
of
asking
for
a
tenure.
This
infrastructure
is
not
something
it's
on
the
order
of
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars.
If
you
can
imagine
installing
new
fiber,
cable
underground
for
higher
reliability,
multiple
paths
again
there's
there
are
no
networks
that
we
manage
more
critical
than
our
911
Network,
so
it
is
highly
redundant.
N
Pfn
has
has
done
a
great
job,
doing
the
implementation
and
the
servicing,
and
then
they
partner
with
we
have
a
separate
contract
with
Motorola
and
Motorola,
provides
the
actual
dispatch
function
in
our
21
piece.
Apps,
the
public
safety
answering
points
throughout
the
county
that
take
the
9-1-1
calls
so
pfn
routes
the
calls
into
these
dispatch
centers,
depending
on
where
they're
coming
from,
and
then
the
dispatch
centers
use
software
provided
by
Motorola
that
interfaces
with
our
clemis
systems.
N
To
get
you
know,
the
public
safety
police,
Fire,
EMS,
Etc,
dispatched
out
to
the
emergency,
so
it
is
a
very
complex
system.
Again,
multiple
levels
of
redundancy
and
pfn
has
been
an
outstanding
vendor
partner
in
this
engagement.
So
we
want
to
to
bring
this
forward
as
a
10-year
contract
extension.
N
You
know
to
move
forward
with
that
with
pfn
and
we
do
at
the
county.
It
is
in
the
I.T
budget.
It
costs
us
about
eight
eighty
thousand
dollars
a
year
to
manage
this
contract
and
that's
included
in
our
budget.
So
if
there's
any
other
questions,
I'd
be
happy
to
answer.
G
A
C
B
A
H
Well,
first
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
the
board
staff
for
getting
this
on
your
agenda
today.
This
actually
went
to
public
health
and
safety
yesterday
and
the
budget
amendment
was
inadvertently
left
out.
So
that's
why
we're
before
you
today?
But
yes,
so
we
received
two
new
therapy.
Canines
one
is
assigned
to
the
school
resource
officer
in
Brandon,
Township
and
the
other
is
assigned
to
a
crash
investigator
that
does
death
notifications
and
crash
investigations.
C
Officer
that
was
here
with
I
mean:
what
are
we
calling
the
little
the
one
that
was
the
first
one
that
was
here
with
us
about
a
couple
months
ago.
Officer
was.
H
Yes,
actually
Woody,
the
one
that's
assigned
to
so
it's
Woody
and
Colt
and
Woody
is
assigned
to
Brandon
school
district
and
he
has
a
little
more
caramel
color
on
his
face.
So
he's
a
little
bit
a
little
bit
different
than
the
others,
but.
C
Is
there
Madam
chair?
Is
there
a
retirement
process
for
the
dogs
when
they
get
to
a
certain
age?
Do
we
do
you
know?
Is
there
a
nice
cushy
environment
that
they
go
to
spend
their
later.
H
Days
well
with
our
this
is
obviously
this
is
still
a
pilot,
Pro
or
a
brand
new
program
for
us.
But
we
plan
to
do
it
just
like
a
regular
canine
program
where,
when
they
get
to
a
certain
age
or
they're
aged
out
of
what
what
they're
doing,
then
we
sell
it
back
to
the
the
Handler
for
a
dollar,
and
then
they
retire
at
home
with
the
family
that
they've
been
living
with
for
their
entire.
B
H
A
L
Good
afternoon,
good
afternoon
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Pete
men
I'm,
the
chief
attorney
of
our
Indigent
defense
Services
office,
I'm,
very
happy
to
report
that
the
state
of
Michigan
yesterday
at
the
midc
meeting
did
approve
our
grant
submission.
So
it
has
beneficially
approved
by
the
state.
You'll.
Remember
I
was
here
in
the
spring,
with
the
Grant
application
and
we're
making
two
very
significant
changes
to
our
our
Indigent
defense
system.
L
This
year,
one
is
the
creation
of
an
in-house
public
defender's
office,
so
those
employees
are
contained
in
in
our
grant
submission
and
then
the
second
is
significant.
Fee
increases
for
our
independent
contract
attorneys
that
we
currently
use,
and
so
our
total
Grant
is
well.
Our
total
budget
is
approximately
16
million
dollars
the
county
puts
in
about
2
million
from
the
general
fund.
That's
statutory
requirement
and
then
the
rest
remainder
of
14
million
dollars
is
the
grant
funding
that
we
accept
from
the
state.
L
Yeah,
the
the
money
that
we're
getting
I
mean
we
have
to
apply
every
year,
but
what
we
do
is
we
tell
the
state?
This
is
the
money
that
we
need
to
fund
Indigent
defense.
The
state
is
then
required
to
fund
our
request.
As
long
as
the
money
is
going
to
be
used
for
Indigent
defense,
we
can
have
some
back
and
forth
with
the
state,
certainly
about
well.
Do
you
really
need
this
much
money?
L
We
do
have
that
back
and
forth
during
the
process,
but
once
they
fund
an
Indigent,
you
know
an
actual
Public
Defender's
Office,
it's
very
hard
for
the
state
to
then
go
back
and
say:
well,
no,
you
needed
those
public
defenders
then,
but
you
don't
need
them
anymore.
You
know
so
I,
don't
I,
don't
see
the
funding
Gap
in
the
future.
In
that
regard,
good.
B
A
H
So
this
is
new
funding
that
we've
gotten
in
a
little
bit
over
1.4
million
for
a
three-year
program.
It's
going
to
enhance
and
expand
our
crisis
intervention
team
training
and
create
a
county-wide
crisis
response
unit.
So
what
we're
planning
to
do
is
create
one
Sergeant,
two
Deputy
two's
and
then
also
cover
overtime
and
travel
costs.
With
this
funding.
K
Just
wanted
to
say,
I,
remember
talking
with
Lieutenant
Workman
and
Captain
Hill
about
this
a
while
ago,
and
we
were
looking
at
possibly
using
arpa
for
this.
So
this
is
fantastic,
that
you're
able
to
get
this
off
the
ground
and
make
this
work
with
other
money.
And
if
there's
ever
a
need
for
this
I
think
you
should
ask
for
it.
A
H
So
this
is
also
new
funding
in
the
amount
of
one
million
dollars
for
the
body,
worn
camera
program.
It's
going
to
cover
positions,
equipment
and
some
additional
I.T
costs
from
the
initial
pilot
program.
It
will
have
we'll
have
three
positions
in
the
sheriff's
office
that
one
will
be
dedicated
to
the
hardware,
maintenance
and
installation
and
troubleshooting,
and
then
two
additional
positions
for
Freedom
of
Information
requests
and
then
one
position
in
the
prosecuting
attorney's
office.
A
Okay,
anybody
have
any
questions
or
comments.
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
just
about
the
body.
This
is
for
the
body
worn
camera
program,
correct,
so
I'm,
not
clear
on
where
we're
at
in
all
of
that,
you
know,
do
all
of
our
Patrol
officers
have
them
or
where
do
we
currently
have
them?
Do
we
have
a
long-term
plan
of
when
we're
gonna?
A
B
We
just
started
deploying
them
so
far.
We
have
them
in
Pontiac
in
Addison,
Township
we're
gonna.
The
next
place
is
going
to
be
within
our
Corrections
the
jail
and
the
courthouse
that
will
allow
Central
Garage
some
time
to
catch
up
on
the
installation
after
they're
doing
the
cars
and
then
we'll
continue
with
the
rest
of
our
substations.
I
A
B
C
Charles,
yes,
Madam,
chair,
I,
hope
it's
Jermaine
do.
Does
the
ocso
also
service
smart
like
when
they
have
when
they
run
into
problems?
Maybe
security
problems,
someone
on
the
bus,
doing
something
crazy
they
call
9-1-1
does.
Is
that
a
Oakland
County
Sheriff
thing
is
that
the
local
municipality.
B
Powell,
just
Kudos
I
just
want
to
thank
the
sheriff's
department
for
sticking
to
the
agenda
of
their
schedule,
of
deploying
to
the
city
of
Pontiac
as
one
of
their
first
well,
second,
first
or
second
location.
So
thank
you.
Our
citizens
are
going
to
be
happy
when
we
officially
announce
so.
Thank
you.
B
D
Mr
Ward,
thank
you
for
taking
this
item
up
and
we
appreciate
being
the
last
item
on
a
very
busy
agenda,
so
hopefully
you're
worn
down
and
throwing
up
their
white
flag
here,
but
in
all
seriousness
this
plan,
that's
before
you,
the
resolution
is,
did
you
get
a
motion
already?
Yes,
okay,
thanks!
It
is
the
result
of
a
tremendous
amount
of
work.
D
If
you
recall
back
in
March,
this
commission
approved
a
resolution
calling
on
our
Parks
Commission
to
put
together
a
up
to
15
million
dollars
in
Investments
in
proposals
to
expand
American
Rescue
plan
dollars,
really
recognizing
the
important
role
that
our
parks
and
outdoor
recreation
facilities
played
in
supporting
the
public
throughout
the
pandemic,
and
we
continue
to
see
that
that
attendance,
Spike,
just
continue
to
grow
and
grow
and
interest
in
in
use
of
our
facilities
is,
is
continuing
to
be
on
an
upward
momentum.
D
So
this
proposal
before
you
and
we're
calling
it
The
Healthy,
Communities,
Park
and
outdoor
recreation
investment
plan.
We
think
it's
where
the
proposal
for
your
consideration,
hopefully
not
only-
is
something
you
could
support,
but
want
to
embrace
and
celebrate,
because
we
think
this
is
really
a
true
the
understanding
this
once
in
a
lifetime
opportunity,
These
funds
provide.
D
We
think
this
is
going
to
really
make
a
Major
Impact
in
the
area
of
Parks
and
Recreation,
and
really
focused
in
those
areas
where
we
can
stretch
those
dollars
as
far
as
possible
and
and
where
the
communities
really
need.
The
help,
the
most
so
at
the
heart
of
the
proposal
is
basically
plans
to
rejuvenate
Revitalize
existing
Parks,
both
Municipal
parks
that
have
suffered
due
to
under
investment
or
outdated
facilities
and
amenities.
D
We
have
our
own
County
Parks
as
well
they're
included
in
here
that
needed
a
little
bit
of
you
know
new
investment
as
well.
All
of
this
is
very
much
focused
on
improving
physical
and
mental
health
outcomes
and
getting
people
socially
connected.
We
utilize
the
arpa
guidelines
and
determining
where
we
put
our
focus
and
what
investments
we're
recommending.
There's
some
pretty
clear
guidance
there
in
terms
of
determining
disproportionately
impacted
communities
where
you
can
use
arpa
dollars
for
Capital,
Improvements
related
to
Parks
and
Recreation.
D
There's
something
I
think
we're
pretty
proud
of,
and
we've
worked
out
some
great
win-win
agreements
that
will
be
a
game
changer
for
Oakland,
County,
Parks
and
Recreation,
and
realign
our
relationship
and
our
ability
to
serve
the
urban
core
population
centers
of
the
county-
and
this
is
this-
is
a
tremendous
and
exciting
opportunity
for
us.
D
But
the
the
basic
outline
of
that
is
is
that
we
are
going
to
take
some
wonderful
Park
park
locations
where
really
there
is
a
great
need
for
revitalizing
rejuvenating
the
park
and
then
we're
not
we're
going
to
take
your
one-time
investment
and
we're
going
to
sustain
it
and
we're
going
to
build
on
it
by
transferring
the
operations
of
Alice
parks
to
become
Oakland,
County
parks,
and
that
includes
Hawthorne
Park
in
the
city
of
Pontiac
right
around
the
corner.
D
We
also
have
worked
out
an
agreement
with
the
city
of
Madison
Heights
to
acquire
through
a
lease,
a
seven
acre,
Park
parcel
Ambassador
Park,
which
is
adjacent
to
Red,
Oaks
County
Park.
This
will,
while
it's
not
a
large
piece
of
property,
that
entire
park
is
almost
all
located
over
a
county
drain
which
creates
kind
of
a
looming
question
mark
all
the
time
in
terms
of
what
we
can
invest
in
there.
D
What
we
can
sustain,
because
at
any
point
in
time
that
drain
may
need
to
be
repaired
and
the
Investments
we're
making
they
may
be,
you
know
totally
deteriorated
and
have
to
be
rebuilt
again.
This
area
here
is
not
located
over
the
drain,
and
that
really
opens
up
possibilities
for
us
to
do
a
lot
more
on
that
property
and
also
creates
a
new
direct
connection.
Point
off
of
11
Mile
Road
is
that
right,
Gary
1200.
C
B
D
It's
Gary's
backyard,
so
he
can
speak
to
this
better
than
I
can.
But
it
really
is
a
nice
way
to
connect
that
part
provide
a
new
access
point.
We
plan
on
putting
in
pickleball
courts
that
there's
certainly
demonstrated
desire
and
need
for
those
in
the
community,
and
a
green
restroom
certainly
have
learned
in
this
time
on
this
job
in
the
last
10
11
months.
D
How
important
restrooms
are
to
people
in
our
parks
in
the
lack
of
restroom
facilities,
how
much
that
deteriorates
the
your
enjoyment
of
a
park
experience
and
then,
finally,
we
want
to
take
advantage
of
an
opportunity
to
stretch
these
dollars
even
farther
share
space
with
the
city
of
Hazel
Park,
who
has
successfully
received
a
500
000
Federal
funding
Grant
to
expand
their
Recreation
space.
They
currently
operate
both
a
community
center
and
a
senior
center
jointly,
and
that
Senior
Center
is
also
the
joint
senior
center
right
now
for
the
City
of
Ferndale
as
well.
D
So
it's
a
wonderful
opportunity
for
us
to
play
an
additional
role
there
and
just
kind
of
build
off
of
what's
going
on
there
stretch
those
dollars
share
some
space.
We
used
to
have
a
South
Oakland
office
of
having
our
staff
physically
located
in
these
communities
really
helps
us
be
able
to
serve
them
better
and
be
more
accessible.
So
we
want
to
build
out
some
joint
Recreation
programming
space
and
then
have
some
restored.
D
Finally,
another
component
are
some
direct
capital,
Improvement
Grants
that
are
focused
on
those
five
communities
I
mentioned
and
keeping
in
mind.
The
value
of
these
leases
that
there's
a
little
bit
of
difference
in
terms
of
the
recommended.
Grant
amount
where
Oak
Park
Southfield
in
Pontiac
are
are
offering
us
this
opportunity
for
a
long-term
lease
or
intergovernment
agreement
to
operate
the
park,
and
we
have
a
500
000
recommended
for
them.
D
Four
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
Hazel
Park
in
light
of
the
recreation
facility,
a
project
we're
working
on
together
and
then
300
000
for
Royal
Oak
Township.
We've
been
working
very
closely
with
these
communities
to
identify
how
these
dogs
would
be
used,
and
so
we're
going
to
finalize
all
that
and
then
it'll
come
back
to
you
in
the
in
the
form
of
Grant
agreements.
For
this
board
to
approve
so
you'll
be
seeing
that
again,
the
intergovernmental
agreements
that
will
finalize
these
Partnerships
that
I
mentioned
will
also
be
coming
back
here.
D
D
We
are
fortunate
to
have
three
members
and
three
members
of
this
committee
on
the
Parks
Commission
represent
the
county
executive,
the
Water
Resources
commissioner,
and
the
citizen
appointees
appointed
by
the
board
there
that
we
think
will
provide
a
meaningful
oversight
role
for
you
and
we're
happy
to
provide
whatever
reporting
and
compliance
that
the
board
would
like
to
keep
you
in
the
loop
and
and
keep
you
up
to
date
on
our
progress.
D
I
will
say
this
that
we've
put
together
an
ambitious
list
of
plans
and
it's
a
complex
proposal.
So
there's
some
moving
parks
there
and
our
capacity
and
ability
to
complete
all
of
the
projects
that
are
listed.
There
are
going
to
be
dependent
on
many
different
factors,
including
construction
costs,
which
continue
to
go
up
the
final
terms
of
intergovernmental
agreements,
those
Master
plans,
I
mentioned
we're
going
to
go
after
every
external
additional
funding
source.
K
D
We
can
bring
more
money
to
the
table
so
that
we
can
again
stretch
these
dollars
as
far
as
possible,
because
as
many
of
these
projects
done
as
we
can,
there's
no
general
fund
general
purpose
I
see
commissioner
Colwell
so
I
always
like
to
mention
this.
When
I
see
you
no
general
fund
general
purpose,
commitment
of
the
that's
the
cold
wall,
amendment
to
every
arpa
resolution,
yeah
and
you
know-
but
you
know
there
will
be
costs
at
the
Oakland
County,
Parks
and
Recreation
Commission
will
be
taking
on.
D
We
are
bringing
by
a
commitment
to
expand
not
less
than
5.2
million
dollars
towards
the
capital
Investments
that
will
be
made
here
and
then,
as
we
take
on
these
new
parks,
we'll
have
some
additional
operating
costs.
Our
increased
millage
provides
us.
You
know
flexibility
and
ability
to
do
these.
Park
expansions
and-
and
we
very
much
believe
that
this
is
a
wonderful
opportunity
for
County
parks
to
do
a
much
better
job
of
being
very
consistently
present
in
serving
these
Urban
core
population
centers
of
our
County
and
just
want
to
say.
A
B
Oh
well,
let
me
take
this.
Let
me
I
want
to
thank
Chris,
because
this
idea
of
this
plan
that
he
brought
back
to
us
is
phenomenal
and
yes,
he
did
come
and
talk
to
the
administration
out
at
the
city
of
Pontiac
and
the
vision
just
behind
it
is
is
just
great
and
the
assistance
that's
needed
for
those
communities
is
well
needed.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
and
your
team,
because
I
know
it's
a
team
behind
you.
So
thank
you.
B
F
I
would
just
like
to
say
thanks
to
Chris
and
his
staff
he's
the
new
kid
on
the
Block
in
parks
and
he's
put
in
phenomenal
time.
Yes,
including
meeting
with
all
the
local
city
managers
and
he's
just
done
a
terrific
job
and
I'm
I'm
really
excited
about
this
plan.
It'll
add
so
much
particularly
to
the
south
end
of
the
county,
but
also
Pontiac,
because
it'll
it'll
really
clean
up
that
Park.
So
I
think
this
is
a
great
plan
thanks
to
Melissa
and
Jim
dunlevy,
who
were
tired
on
it.
So.
D
Sign
also,
thank
you
absolutely
and
I
appreciate
those
of
you
who
took
the
time
to
come
out
and
tour
those
Park
facilities
and
want
to
extend
the
invitation
to
to
do
some
in
the
future
as
well.
For
those
of
you
who
are
interested
in
coming
to
see
them,
I
think
you
want
you
to
see
them
you're,
going
to
see
the
tremendous
potential
that
that
is
there.
That
has
got
us
so
excited
and
I
want
to
point
out.
D
A
Anybody
else
you
know
I
was
reading
I
think
it
was
yesterday
that
Wayne
County
has
spent
like
40
million
dollars
of
their
several
hundred
million
dollars
of
arpa
money.
That's
out
there.
We
have
spent
a
lot
more
of
it
but
of
ours,
but
I
appreciate
that
the
work
that
you
did
I
think
really
meets
the
intent
of
arpa
at
the
community
level.
A
This
money,
you
know
as
I've
read
about
it,
was
supposed
to
come
in
here
and
Elevate
communities
that
maybe
had
not
been
able
to
invest
in
themselves
for
many
years,
for
whatever
reasons,
and
so
with
our
new
millage
and
the
arpa
dollars
to
to
be
able
to
create
the
park
system
of
the
entire
County
I
think
is
really
important.
I
live
in
an
area
where
there
are
no
County
Parks
right.
A
Many
of
you
live
south
of
12
Mile
and
I'm
really
happy
to
see
us
take
a
philosophy
of
we're
going
to
move
forward
and
Elevate
County
Parks
across
the
county
in
a
substantial
investment
kind
of
way.
It's
not
just
waving
a
flag.
It's
not
we're
spending
arpa
dollars
with
careful
thought
and
that's
the
point
that
I
wanted
to
make.
Was
the
there's
been
a
lot
of
thought
and
effort?
A
That's
gone
into
doing
this
right
and
I'm
really
proud
of
all
you
guys,
I
I,
think
what
you're
doing
is
is
going
to
really
improve
Oakland
County
quality
of
life
for
individuals
all
across
the
county
for
years
to
come
because
of
what
you've
done.
So
thank
you
appreciate.
D
A
So
I
would
like
to
take
a
two-minute
break
before
we
start
into
these
closed
sessions.
If
people
don't
mind
a
five
minute
break,
Let's,
let's
Zoom,
so
don't
worry,
we'll
try
and
start
before
five
minutes
too.
Oh
man
that
would
have
been
okay.
K
A
A
Yes,
yeah,
oh
to
somebody
else
want
to
for
James
conahan
versus
Oakland,
County
and
David
back
at
all.
To
consider
that
case
attorneys
right
and
so
we
need
a
roll
combo.
Is
that
correct,
promptable.
A
A
B
B
F
A
L
K
B
C
B
A
Right
so
we
have
another.
Thank
you.
We
have
another
item
that
we
need
to
go
into
closed
session.
For
so
I
will
entertain
a
motion
that
we
go
into
closed
sessions
from
commissioner
Charles,
supported
by
commissioner
Moss.
A
With
the
intention
of
considering
Ransom
versus
Oakland
County
at
all
the
with
the
Corporation
Council
crazy.
B
A
So
I
need
a
motion
that
we
will
that
Corporation
Council
be
authorized
to
proceed
in
accordance
with
the
directives
discussed
in
closed
session.
Commissioner,
kowal
supported
by
commissioner
Powell.
B
A
A
Seeing
no
one
I
called
public
comment
closed
any
other
business
I
call
this
meeting
adjourned
at
158.