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A
Next
up,
we
have
the
approval
of
the
minutes
of
our
committee
dated
july
26
2022.
If
there
aren't
any
corrections
or
changes,
do
we
have
a
motion
motion
by
commissioner
loops
support
by
commissioner
joliette?
All
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
minutes
approved
next
up,
we'll
move
on
to
the
approval
of
the
agenda
again.
If
there
aren't
any
corrections
or
changes,
do
we
have
a
motion
motion
by
commissioner
loops
support
by
commissioner
gershenson?
A
All
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
agenda
approved
next
up,
we'll
move
on
to
our
first
public
comment
as
a
reminder,
this
is
specific
to
items
that
are
on
the
agenda
and
individuals
will
get
three
minutes.
So
at
this
time,
I'd
like
to
open
up
public
comment
and
first
individual.
Please
make
your
way
to
the
head
of
the
table
state,
your
name
and
community
in
which
you
reside
in.
B
B
B
But,
as
you
know,
we
in
auburn
hills
had
opted
out.
We
decided
to
try
to
opt
out
earlier
this
year
and
it
was
for
specific
reasons.
Primarily,
it
was
a
system
that
wasn't
working
well
mechanically
service
communications.
We
were
struggling
on
a
lot
of
fronts.
Our
decision
to
send
the
resolution
into
the
county,
commission
or
the
ocpta
for
outbound
considerations
was
really
to
primarily
start
a
conversation
to
try
to
figure
out
how
we
can
do
better.
B
My
concern
with
what
I
see
in
front
of
me
over
at
0.95
mill
for
10
years,
county-wide
a
is
the
loss
of
local
control
that
it
gives.
But
it's
also
going
to
to
take
a
system.
That's
20
million
dollars.
A
year
approximately
and
turn
it
into
a
66
million
dollar
operation,
so
it's
going
to
triple
the
size
of
something
that
we
feel
is
broken.
B
C
C
C
They
do
not
allow
individuals
with
cognitive
impairments
to
travel,
an
8
percent
employment
rate
for
people
with
disabilities
with
cognitive
impairments.
These
are
individuals
that
we
can
work
with.
These
are
individuals
that
I
work
with.
We
run
a
program
in
farmington
hills
right
now
at
divisions,
vision's
unlimited
and
we
have
one
route.
C
C
How
many
of
you
live
and
work
visit,
your
friends
and
shop
in
the
same
small
community
you
live
in?
I
understand
the
concern
about
taxation-
I'm
probably
one
of
the
cheapest
guys
you'll
ever
meet.
I
believe
we
need
to
invest
our
money
where
it
needs
to
be.
The
system
is
broken,
the
system
is
troubled
and
the
system
is
dividing
our
communities
by
not
having
transit
and
not
having
a
full
transit
system.
We
are
saying
people
with
disabilities
do
not
deserve
the
same
opportunity.
We
have.
C
We
pay
taxes
on
our
roads
that
we
may
never
drive
on.
We
need
buses,
we
need
more
buses
going
more
places,
so
an
individual
who
does
not
drive
can
have
full
access
to
our
community.
I
will
be
bringing
students
next
meeting.
I
did
not
hear
about
this
meeting
until
very
late.
You
will
hear
their
stories
of
what
it
means
to
not
have
the
opportunities.
C
D
Good
morning
as
a
person
who
actually
has
a
disability
and
reading
this
public
access
information
for
these
meetings,
if
you
require
special
accommodations
because
of
a
disability,
please
contact
the
board
of
commissioners
at
the
number
at
least
three
business
days
in
advance
of
the
meeting
three
business
days.
So
as
a
person
with
a
disability
in
oakland
county
michigan.
I
asked
when
I
entered
this
meeting
today.
D
D
D
Public
financial
reporting
standards
are
actually
much
higher
and
I
would
assert
that
last
year's
entire
budget
hearings
that
had
no
links
to
any
financial
data
whatsoever
were
completely
out
of
line
and
the
fact
that
you
keep
making
budget
adjustments
instead
of
working
within
budgets,
which
is
how
public
is
supposed
to
be
run.
This
entire
thing
is
a
complete
sham
and
I
feel
abused
as
a
citizen
of
this
county,
because
people
from
outside
the
county
keep
getting
invitations
and
heads
up
and
for
things
that
the
county
citizens
are
not
told
about.
D
So
it's
offensive
to
me
that
someone
comes
from
celine
to
bring
his
students
to
explain
how
we
should
be
funding
them
and
then
at
a
different
meeting,
they're
saying:
oh
there's
no
foreclosures.
Yet
we
have
contracted
with
an
outside
online
auction
house
that
plans
to
auction
off
all
of
our
foreclosed
property
by
august
12th.
D
D
E
Good
morning
my
name
is
sharon
carter,
I'm
out
of
southfield
you're.
What
I'm
from
south
field
I've
been
reading
about,
the
desire
to
expand
the
smart
bus
system
to
provide
increased
transit
options,
and
I
know
public
transit
is
an
important
option
for
those
who
do
not
own
a
car
and
for
other
reasons,
having
said
that,
in
general,
a
traditional
bus
system
with
fixed
routes
spread
far
apart,
does
not
provide
an
efficient
method
of
transportation
in
today's
suburban
environment,
rather
than
adding
more
buses
and
routes.
E
E
I
believe
we
should
look
into
the
option
of
smaller
vehicles
for
many
routes
and
certainly
for
off
hours.
They
would
be
far
less
expensive
to
operate
and
that
savings
could
be
used
to
provide
better
service.
One
example
has
anyone
looked
into
coordinating
bus
routes
along
with
uber
or
lyft?
That
could
be
the
service
system
or
the
feeder
system
that
serves
buses.
Another
example
is
the
very
successful
ride.
Share
programs
used
in
the
metro
detroit
area.
Have
you
looked
into
coordinating
bus
routes
to
major
areas
with
significant
parking?
E
E
A
F
I
think
all
of
them
should
have
the
options
of
opting
out
and
not
have
their
their
authority,
their
local
authority
overrun
by
the
county
commission.
Thank
you.
G
Good
morning,
good
morning,
tasha
shergin
from
clarkston,
I'm
just
going
to
reiterate
the
sentiments
that
we've
heard
this
morning
and
the
biggest
challenge
I
have
is:
if
you
look
at
how
the
smart
buses
operate,
it's
a
huge
deficit,
so
we're
just
going
to
keep
pouring
more
of
our
taxpayer
money.
Your
taxpayer
money
too.
I'm
assuming
commissioners
also
pay
taxes
so,
instead
of
finding
assists
of
fixing
a
broken
system,
we're
just
going
to
keep
dumping
money
in
and
continue
to
feed
it
with
more
taxes
and
there's
no
end
in
sight.
G
H
Good
morning
my
name
is
megan
owens,
I'm
a
current
resident
of
detroit,
and
I
work
with
an
organization
called
transportation,
writers,
united.
We
work
with
folks
from
all
across
the
southeast
michigan
region
and
have
for
20
years
to
because
we
believe
everyone
should
be
able
to
get
where
they
need
to
go
regardless
of
whether
they
personally
drive,
and
I
want
to
applaud
the
board
for
considering
this
county-wide
transit
resolution.
H
This
is
something
that
for
years
has
been
discussed.
There
have
been
many
many
studies
and
work
groups
and
discussions,
and
it
is
consistently
brought
up
as
one
of
the
biggest
barriers
for
our
seniors
and
our
substantially
aging
population.
It
is
one
of
the
biggest
barriers
for
people
with
disabilities.
H
It
is
one
of
the
biggest
barriers
for
low-income
residents
whose
car
might
happen
to
break
down,
but
they
still
need
to
get
to
work
while
their
car
is
in
the
shop
so
ensuring
I
really
I
do
wish
that
there
had
been
more
that
the
draft
plan
that
was
shared
the
the
outline
of
the
services
that
was
shared
yesterday
had
been
shared
much
earlier,
because
I
think,
there's
a
lot
to
recommend
it.
H
One
of
the
wonderful
things
about
oakland
county
is
the
many
different
types
of
places.
The
variety
of
places
we
have
within
the
county.
People
can
choose
a
wide
range
of
of
areas
to
live,
and
with
this
proposal,
assuming
that
the
that
you
put
it
on
the
ballot
and
the
voters
choose
to
support
it,
it
would
give
people
a
wide
variety
of
options
for
getting
around
two.
So,
in
addition
to
having
housing
options
and
urban
rural
suburban
options,
you'd
also
have
a
wide
range
of
transportation
options.
H
It
would
also
invest,
as
was
suggested
in
an
uber-like
system,
with
on-demand
service
door-to-door
service
in
a
lot
of
communities
where
a
fixed
route
bus
might
not
be
the
best
way
and
it
would
improve
and
expand
on
those
fixed
route
buses.
So,
depending
on
where
you
are
in
the
county,
you
have
an
op.
You
will
have
an
option
for
a
variety
of
different
transportation
choices,
but
it
would
link
the
community
together.
H
B
A
A
A
If
there's
no
questions
or
comments,
do
we
have
a
motion
to
accept
all
items
underneath
the
consent
agenda?
We
have
a
motion
by
commissioner
lubes
support
by
commissioner
gershenson.
A
Okay,
we're
going
to
go
on
back
and
just
do
a
prompt
vote
to
approve
all
the
items
underneath
the
consent
agenda.
E
A
I'm
sure
you
have
five
years:
zero,
a's
five
yays
zero
nays.
Next
up
we're
going
to
move
on
to
our
regular
agenda.
The
first
item
on
our
regular
agenda
is
the
oakland
county
land
bank
authority
interviews.
As
a
reminder,
over
the
past
few
logo
meetings,
we've
discussed
opening
up
applications
during
our
last
lago
meeting.
A
So
at
this
time,
I'd
like
to
request
that
the
cameras
be
turned
back
off,
while
committee
members
discuss
the
interviewees
that
we
heard
from
this
morning,.
A
All
right
now
that
the
camera's
on
are
on
at
this
time
we're
going
to
move
forward
with
individual
votes
for
each
of
the
three
members
interviewees
under
the
general
public
seat.
So
first,
commissioner
gershenson
made
a
motion
to
recommend
martin
manna
for
the
general
public
seat.
Do
we
have
support
support
by
commissioner
loops?
A
Three
yays
two
nays
motion
carries
next
up.
Can
I
I
can
make
my
own
motion
right
complete
if
you
yeah,
if
you
want
okay,
so
I
would
like
to
follow
suit
and
make
a
motion
to
bring
forward
kathleen
duffy,
but.
A
A
A
Next
up,
we've
got
our
last
individual,
I'm
sorry,
our
next
individual,
which
is
margaret
brown.
I
believe
commissioner
jackson
has
made
a
motion
to
nominate
margaret
brown
under
the
general
public
seat
and
do
we
have
support.
A
One
yay
for
four
days
motion
fails
next,
we'll
move
forward
with.
Do
we
need
to
move
forward,
commissioners
with
the
fourth
individual.
A
Okay,
so,
given
that
there
is
nobody
nominating
recommending,
george
levine,
we'll
now
move
on
to
the
initial
motion
of
recommending
kelpani
stevens
for
the
city
official
nominating
jeffrey
campbell
for
the
township
official
and
nominating
martin
manna
for
the
general
public
seat.
E
A
Four
years,
one
day
motion
carries
all
right.
Commissioners,
thank
you.
So
much
and
again
I
want
to
thank
all
the
individuals
who
expressed
interest
in
the
oakland
county
land
bank
authority
and
for
those
who
took
time
out
of
their
day
to
interview
this
morning.
So
thank
you.
Yes,
great
people
really
truly.
A
Next
up
we'll
move
on
to
item
b
of
our
regular
agenda.
We've
got
parks
and
recreation.
Grant
acceptance
with
semcog
for
the
planning
assistance
grant
program.
Do
we
have
a
motion
motion
by
commissioner
juliette
support
by
commissioner
lubes
good
morning?
Melissa
and
thank
you
so
much
for
your
time
and
patience
this
morning.
Oh.
G
Good
morning,
this
is
very
interesting
parks
and
rec's
very
excited
about
the
land
bank,
so
this
was
great
welcome.
So
this
is
a
grant
from
semcog's
planning
assistance
grant
program.
The
grant
itself
is
for
36
832.50,
which
was
the
maximum
award
amount
for
this
grant.
G
So
essentially,
as
we've
been
looking
at,
you
know,
potential
urpa
projects
and
working
more
with
certain
communities
within
the
county.
We've
been
meeting
a
lot
with
various
communities
across
the
county,
including
all
of
the
communities
along
the
nine
mile
corridor
and
through
those
meetings
we
learned
that
there's
a
strong
interest
in
using
that
corridor
as
a
way
to
really
connect
those
communities
provide
pedestrian
connectivity,
non-motorized
transportation.
You
know
a
lot
of
great
community
recreation.
G
You
know
public
resources
available
in
them
in
the
area,
so
this
essentially
would
be
a
grant
facilitated
by
oakland
county
parks,
but
really
the
process
will
be
led
by
the
communities
to
work
on
this
project.
So
the
total
project
amount
which
we're
working
with
ohm
on
is
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
247,
so
parks
and
rec
is
contributing
the
match
funding
for
the
full
project,
which
is
about
63
thousand
dollars.
So
the
communities
are
very
excited.
G
A
Commissioners,
any
questions
comments
alrighty,
seeing
none,
please
prompt
the
vote.
A
Zero
nays
motion
carries
thank
you.
Thank
you,
melissa,
commissioners.
I'd
like
to
move
forward
to
receive
and
file
the
document
that
we
received.
So
do
we
have
a
motion
to
receive
and
file
the
nine-mile
corridor
pathway
feasibility
study,
letter
motioned
by
commissioner
lubes
support
by
commissioner
gershenson.
J
Thank
you.
Thank
you
chair.
Basically,
this
is
a
non-binding
resolution,
but
it
speaks
to
our
board,
giving
support
to
senate
bill
117
and
house
bill
4902
to
help
michigan
businesses
and
and
workers
procure
contracts
by
prior,
giving
priority
to
dollars
going
to
michigan-based
companies,
giving
companies
an
added
incentive
to
submit
bids
for
state
contracts
with
a
higher
probability
of
them
being
successful
bids
for
the
delivery
of
goods.
J
So
basically,
this
proposed
legislations
would
give
michigan
headquarter
companies
a
seven-day
window
to
resubmit
a
bid
for
a
state
contract
if
the
lowest
bidder
on
the
contract
is
an
out-of-state
company.
If
the
michigan
headquarter
company
re-bids
and
the
bid
is
lower
than
the
out-of-state
company's
original
bid,
then
the
michigan
company
would
get
the
contract
and
it's
a
bipartisan
sponsored
bill
with
representatives,
marshall,
bullock,
democrat
jason,
wentworth
republican,
adam
hollier,
democrat
and
jim
anders
republican.
A
A
Five
yays
zero
nays
motion
carries
commissioners
before
we
go
on
to
our
last
and
final
item
item
d,
which
is
the
resolution
approving
language
for
an
oakland
county,
public
transit
millage
to
appear
on
the
november
8th
2022
ballot,
I'd
like
to
request
a
a
five
minute,
no
longer
but
a
five
minute
break,
and
then
we'll
come
back
and
reconvene.
A
Excellent
I'd
like
to
call
the
legislative
affairs
and
government
operations
committee
back
to
order
at
10
42,
given
we
took
a
slight
break,
I'd
like
to
have
a
roll
call.
Please.
E
Okay,
commissioners
and
son
here
julia
here
jackson
here
here,
woodward.
A
Thank
you
all
right,
commissioners,
let's
pick
up
where
we
left
off,
we
are
now
on
our
last
item
under
the
regular
agenda
item
d,
which
is
resolution
approving
language
for
an
oakland
county
public
transportation
millage
to
appear
on
the
november
8th
2022
ballot.
Do
we
have
a
motion
motion
by
commissioner
liu
support
by
commissioner
jackson
and
I
believe
we've
got
a
variety
of
people
here
with
us
this
morning.
So
we've
got
chairman
woodward
and
please
chairman:
will
you
introduce
the
fellows
to
the
left
and
the
radio.
K
Certainly,
certainly
thank
you,
madam
chair
and
the
committee
for
for
taking
the
measure
up
to
my
right.
I
have
neil
greenberg,
I'm
a
transit
expert
that
brings
a
wealth
of
experience
of
working
in
transit,
costing
out
transit,
improving
efficiency
of
transit,
not
only
throughout
this
region,
but
around
the
country
I
mean
recently
in
contract,
helping
shape
a
transit
approach
for
the
executive
office
and
assisting
us
in
this
measure
to
make
sure
that
we're
working
with
real
sound
dollars
to
be
able
to
deliver
on
the
services
that
we're
talking
about
and
to
my
left.
K
I've
got
highland
supervisor,
rick
hamill,
who
is
one
of
the
founding
members
of
the
west
oakland
transit
authority
and
I'm
gonna.
Let
him
speak
to
his.
I
mean
kind
of
experience
and
the
importance
of
addressing
I
mean
improving
mobility
and
transit
for
people
all
all
around
for
all
people
around
oakland
county.
To
set
this
up-
and
I
know
that
many
of
us
had-
I
mean
lengthy
conversation
yesterday
and
so
I'll
be
a
little
more
brief
and
go
into
any
questions.
K
We
know
that
we
have
an
aging
population.
I
mean
the
aging
report
in
oakland
county
lifted.
It
up
as
a
critical,
an
essential
issue.
We
know
that
employers
are
challenging
to
get
people
back
into
jobs,
transportation
being
a
contributing
factor
to
that.
K
We
know
that
there
are
people
with
disabilities
veterans,
others
without
a
car,
without
access
to
the
car
that
are
having
challenges
to
get
to
places,
they
need
to
go
and
and
more
broadly,
where
they
want
to
go
and
a
current
existing
transit
system
that
doesn't
connect
to
the
job
centers,
the
health
centers
and
the
major
center
destination
centers.
And
so
what
this
proposal
seeks
to
do
is
to
move
the
conversation
in
oakland
county
to
be
about
how
do
we
improve
transportation
for
everyone,
public
transportation,
for
everyone?
It's
it's
pretty
simple.
K
Amir
is
the
approach
that
I
mean
it's
been
in
place
in
oakland
county
for
a
long
time
in
the
structure
of
a
0.9
mill
over
over
the
10
years.
But
really
this
proposal
does
three
things.
It's
one
of
the
things
in
the
past
that
has
been
a
ongoing
by
critique
of
transit.
Conversations
in
the
past
was
that
it
didn't
appropriately
take
stake
of
the
transit
services
and
the
variety
of
transit
services
that
are
in
place
already
in
oakland
county.
This
proposal
builds
on
what
we
currently
have
in
place
and
fully
funds.
K
Those
efforts
to
not
just
be
able
to
continue
but
to
be
able
to
improve
oakland
county
has
really
four
transit
agencies
providing
transit
on
a
regular
basis.
You
have
smart
that
I
mean,
I
think
everyone
here
is
familiar
with.
You
have
the
north
oakland
transit
authority.
You
have
the
west
oakland
transit
authority,
you
have
the
older
persons
commission,
those
the
latter.
Three
have
all
come
together
to
try
to
tackle
this
problem,
because
it
is
a
recognized,
a
challenge
that
exists.
K
K
What's
working
particularly,
and
and
this
is
where
I'm
going
to
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
to
neil
to
kind
of
talk
broadly
how
this
all
works,
but
then
I
really
want
supervisor
hamill
to
talk
about
the
opportunities
to
expand,
particular
paratransit
commuter,
transit,
dial
ahead
schedule,
a
ride
but
also
micro
transit,
to
be
able
to
get
people
where
they
need
to
go
and
connect
into
the
the
routes
and
other
transit
systems
that
that
currently
exists.
K
Those
dollars
are
available
to
expand,
to
add
additional
routes,
to
connect
areas
that
don't
currently
have.
I
mean
connections
to
complete
the
loop
if
you
will
to
close
gaps
in
existing
service.
K
In
addition
to
providing,
I
mean
additional
micro
and
paratransit
services,
and
then
so
I
mean
to
expand
on
what's
working
and
expand
to
meet
the
need
that
currently
exists
out
there
and
then,
lastly,
the
capital
improvements
that
are
necessary.
We
know
that
this
will
require
capital
improvements.
We
know
that
buses
and
and
transportation
units
need
to
be
replaced.
We've
got
in
some
cases,
buses
that
are
on
the
road
that
are
beyond
their
longevity,
but
there
are
challenges
to
the
current
way
that
we
replace
those
buses.
K
This
allocates
annual
funding
to
not
just
be
able
to
help
do
those
in
quick
form,
but
that,
but
most
importantly,
be
able
to
leverage
the
unprecedented
amount
of
additional
public
transit
dollars
as
a
result
of
the
bipartisan
infrastructure
act
that
came
to
michigan
north
of
300
million
dollars
slated
for
michigan
of
which
will
require
matching
dollars
to
be
able
to
get
things
done.
So,
in
short,
I
mean
this
is
a
oakland
county
plan
to
address
oakland
county
transit
needs
that
doesn't
live
in
a
in
a
vacuum
that
can
connect
to
things
that
are
outside.
K
I
mean
outside
the
boundaries
of
oakland
county,
but
improve
measurably,
improve
the
the
trans
transportation
services
available
in
oakland
county.
So
that's
the
high
level
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
to
neil,
to
I
mean
kind
of
just
talk
if
you
can
say
talk
about
the
different
strategies,
different,
what's
paratransit
microtransfer
fixed
route,
and
then
I
mean
maybe
talk
a
little
bit
specific,
specifically
about
the
second
on
the
kind
of
the
expansion
of
routes,
expansion
and
creation
of
new
routes
and
the
other
micro
transit
proposals
that
kind
of
went
into
this
plan.
Yes,.
L
Definitely
great,
thank
you
and
thanks
to
the
to
the
commissioners
and
the
committee
for
for
being
here.
This
has
been
thus
far
really
interesting,
engaging
project
to
work
on.
It's
only
going
to
get
more
interesting
as
more
good
questions
and
concerns
come
up.
So,
if
that's
the
what
the?
How
is
really
what
does
this
look
like
in
terms
of
transit
service,
and
it's
not.
D
L
Size
fits
all,
especially
in
a
community
as
diverse
as
oakland
county,
so
one
of
the
things
to
address
kind
of
from
the
get-go
is
the
types
of
transit
service
being
being
kind
of
talked
about
being
considered
as
part
of
this
package.
It's
not
strictly
large
vehicles,
traveling
fixed
routes,
in
fact
of
the
20
million
dollars
or
so
for
expansion
about
seven
or
eight
of
that
is
for
modes
that
use
smaller,
more
flexible
vehicles.
So
that
would
be
additional
paratransit
service
in
areas
that
don't
have
it
right.
Now
there
is
noda.
There
is
wada.
L
There
is
opc
in
parts
of
the
county
that
don't
have
smart
service,
but
that
still
leaves
a
large
chunk
of
the
county
that
doesn't
have
any
service
at
all,
mainly
targeted
for
seniors
persons
with
disabilities,
veterans,
etc.
L
So
of
the
20
million
dollars
itemized
for
expansion
about
seven
eight
of
that
is
for
or
a
part
of
the
seven
eight
of
that
is
for
additional
paratransit
service
in
areas
that
don't
have
it
there's
also
this
new
concept
of
micro
transit.
So
this
is
really
really
useful
in
a
place
like
oakland
county,
which,
quite
frankly,
has
a
lot
of
landscape.
That's
not
that
conducive
for
transit
service.
We
get
that
you
know.
L
No
one
has
no
one
has
concepts
of
plowing
40-foot
buses
down
residential
streets
or
areas
that
just
aren't
supportive.
So
microtransit
is
a
more
flexible
service.
You
could
use
an
app
to
request
a
ride
and
it
comes
within
30
to
60
minutes
you
could.
You
could
call
if
you
don't
use
an
app
and
that's
meant
to
kind
of
connect,
basic
everyday
key
locations
that
are
nearby
or,
if
you're
going
further.
L
It
can
connect
you
to
a
fixed
route
if
you're
crossing
boundaries
and
maybe
taking
a
little
bit
of
a
longer
trip.
So
those
are
key
key
key
ingredients
to
the
expansion
component
and
as
for
the
fixed
routes,
there
are
a
handful
of
new
fixed
routes
identified,
so
fixed
route,
meaning
a
full-size
vehicle
traveling,
a
fixed
route
at
a
regular
interval,
regular
schedule.
L
And
if,
if
you
look
at
the
sketch,
there's
kind
of
a
thin
baseline
web
of
new
fixed
routes
proposed
and
those
are
based
on
the
three
d's
demographics,
so
looking
at
where
there
are
senior
populations
where
there
are
larger
concentrations
of
people
with
disabilities
and
veterans
density,
so
where
there
is
the
the
population
density
and
the
job
density
for
a
fixed
route
service
to
make
sense
and
the
biggest
d
of
all
this
is
so
important
when
you're
thinking
about
transit
destinations
because
you're
taking
transit
to
get
somewhere
so
oakland
county
today,
as
we
speak,
has
a
number
of
key
key
destinations
that
are
out
of
the
reach
of
any
transit
service.
L
So
when
we
talk,
for
instance,
about
occ
highland
lakes,
campus
there's,
there's
there's
very
limited
transit
service
there,
although
it
is
in
waterford,
so
it
does
fall
within
the
woda
service
area.
You
could
say
the
same
thing
about
providence
park
hospital,
there's,
there's
there's
a
number
of
other
major
major
institutions:
dmc
sinai,
huron
valley,
hospital,
there's,
there's
a
lot
of
jobs.
There
there's
appointments
there,
there's
real
real
need
to
access
places
like
that.
L
So
when
you
do
see
the
the
kind
of
thin
fairly
sparse
web
of
these
proposed
fixed
routes,
they're
really
really
anchored
on
those
destinations
and,
of
course,
the
other
two
d's
demographics
and
density.
So
that's
that's
kind
of
what
goes
into
it.
You
can
also
see
how
it
does
interface
with
some
of
the
current
smart
routes
and
there's
work
to
be
done
to
improve
those
and
to
get
more
out
of
those
there's
no
question
about
it,
but
the
whole
package
is
really
an
evolved
package.
It's
not
a
one-size-fits-all
thing.
L
It
does
take
into
account
the
the
the
great
work
that
woda
and
noda
and
opc
are
doing
and
really
brings
them
into
the
mix,
whereas
previous
previous
attempts
at
doing
this
really
kind
of
haven't
they've,
also
been
a
lot
more
one.
Size
fits
all
where
this
is
really
acknowledging
that
there's
there's
a
lot
of
different
tools
to
to
solve
a
challenge
that
has
a
lot
of
different
dimensions.
K
He
can
go
on
forever,
but
no
I
mean
it's
really
been
a.
I
mean
it's
been
a
joy,
I
mean
to
work
with
him.
I
appreciate
his
is
his
insight
and
resource
to
figure
out
how
to
price
this
and
sustain
it.
I
mean
with
a
long-term
lens
and
making
sure
that
this
can
work,
and
so
I
now
would
like
to
I
mean
I
hand
it
over
to
supervisor
hamill
and
talk
from
his
perspective
and
like
the
value
that
this
brings.
To
the
I
mean
to
the
the
mobility
landscape
in
oakland,
county.
M
Well,
thank
you
very
much
and
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
to
have
this
discussion
just
as
a
side
here
I
was
asked
a
question
a
little
earlier.
It
appears
that
I've
changed
my
tune
or
my
path
here
as
to
why
I
support
this
thing.
M
I
think
the
key
is
is
that
to
go
back
in
history
in
2012,
I
became
a
supervisor
at
highland.
I
found
out
we
had
these
five
buses
and
I
said
who
manages
those
they're
running
around
they're
driving
around,
but
I
have
no
personal
idea
ironically,
what's
going
on,
how
are
they
working
well,
it
turns
out.
We
have
a
group
of
one
poorly
paid
individual,
that's
a
director
and
some
volunteers
that
were
making
this
thing
happen,
and
so
I
said
you
know
this
is
really
inefficient.
It
doesn't
seem
like
it's
the
right.
M
M
It
was
funded
by
you,
know,
community
credits
and
and
basically
just
no
money
from
general
fund
at
all.
So
it's
all
grant.
M
So
we
were
totally
restricted
about
what
we
could
do,
because
you
can
only
go
do
so
much
with
no
money,
and
so
I
started
to
go
into
conversations
with
milford
and
milford
township
and
say
we
need
to
do
a
little
bit
more.
We
need
to
kick
in
a
little
bit
more
to
make
this
work
and
we
need
to
maybe
look
at
expanding
this
program
for
other
communities
and
it
didn't
go
over
too
well.
M
So
what
ended
up
happening
is
highland,
took
it
on
by
themselves
and
my
good
neighbor
to
the
east
rick
kowal
township
supervisor
for
white
lake
kept
telling
me
he
says
you
know
we
see
your
buses
drive
by
our
bus
all
the
time.
Why
are
we
doing
this
and
I
said:
hey,
let's
get
together
so
next
thing.
You
know
we
decided
we
would
form
wota
and
the
reason
we
did
it
was
we
thought
if
we
could
get
together,
we
can
maximize
the
dollars
and
and
be
able
to
just
actually
exponentially
increase
the
ridership.
M
M
So
my
goal
was
this
was
to
say:
hey
instead
of
having
nothing
for
it,
why
don't
we
form
a
bus
program?
That's
you
know
basically
county-wide
that
that
takes
care
of
this,
and
then
we
can
join
together.
We
can
look
for
resources
so
on
and
so
forth
and
what
we
ended
up.
Having
was
a
year
of
I
don't
know
karen.
If
you
ever
came
to
any
of
the
meetings,
I
think
you.
M
Yeah
we
had
lawyers
attorneys
from
every
community,
we
hammered
out
all
kinds
of
ideas
and
it
finally
just
broke
down
to
where
it
was:
waterford,
white,
lake,
highland
and,
ironically,
an
opt-in
community
walled
lake
and
it
has
expanded
fantastically
in
terms
of
ridership
now
granted
it's
a
social
program
that
doesn't
have
any
way
of
producing
enough
funds
to
pay
for
itself.
M
But
you
know
you
can
only
be
a
dynamo
for
so
many
days
and
you'll
you'll
blow
up,
and
so
what
ended
up
happening
was
we
tried
to
get
this
group
to
get
together
and
we
decided
you
know
what
this
is
a
very
good
opportunity
that
if
a
millage
should
come
along,
we
need
to
be
included
in
it
and
not
just
because
we
want
to
have
a
micro
operation.
The
idea
is,
this
is
an
opportunity
to
service
all
of
oakland
county,
not
just
what
smart
used
to
do.
M
You
know
so
it
wouldn't
be
and
in
in
the
fortune
to
be
able
to.
We
started
out
working
with
hillary
and
and
dave
at
the
very
beginning,
and
they
talked
about
via
and
they
were
getting
all
this
information,
brett,
rasinger
and,
and
the
net
result
was.
Is
that
all
of
a
sudden,
this
word
millage
comes
in
and
oh,
we
got.
I
got
to
be
involved
in
this.
We
need
a
as
a
group.
M
Woda
needs
to
be
involved
in
this,
had
an
opportunity
to
get
involved
in
it,
and
my
goal
was
to
say
that
there's
no
reason
we
can't
have
transit
in
all
of
oakland
county.
If
you're
going
to
have
one
millage
and
everybody's
going
to
pay,
then
everybody
should
play.
You
should
have
transit
in
your
community,
and
the
irony
is
is
the
way
that
waterworks
and
notaworks
were
on
demand.
M
We
do
not
pick
up.
Noda
does
pick
up
regular
riders,
you
know
non-senior
and
that,
but
we
are
at
this
current
time
a
senior
and
disabled.
M
And
the
formula
works
phenomenally
well
in
rural
environments
and
if
you
look
at
the
maps
on
here,
the
pink
that's
out
there,
you
don't
see
any
routes
running
out
there.
The
irony
is,
there
is
no
route.
The
route.
Is
you
call
we
go,
we
pick
you
up.
We
take
you
back
and
they're
small
vehicles,
you
know
some
are
15
passenger
buses,
we've
actually
been
reducing
the
size.
Node
has
been
doing
the
same
thing
incredibly
efficient,
but
limited
because
of
resources
and
number
of
buses
available
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
M
M
We,
as
a
group
decided
what
we
do
is
equally
share
the
cost,
meaning
that
we're
not
white
lake,
we're
not
highland,
we're,
not
waterford,
we're
woda
west
oakland
transit,
and
that
means
that
we're
going
to
all
equally
commit
to
servicing
the
people
in
that
area.
So
waterford
it
turns
out,
has
grown.
They
had
way
less
than
we
had
in
the
very
beginning,
riders
they've
grown
to
be
the
largest
user
walled
lake
turned
out
to
be
7,
500
people
in
wall
lake
they're,
the
second
largest
user
highland
and
has
grown
tremendously
and
so
was
whitelink.
M
So
the
use
of
the
vehicles
has
gotten
to
the
point
where
we
can't
we
we're
at
our
maximum.
This
is
the
perfect
opportunity,
because
one
I'll
say
it's
pretty
sure,
shot
that
it
can
get.
I
mean
it's
a
good,
I'm
looking
at
it.
I
actually
had
an
opportunity
to
be
a
party,
that's
some
of
the
verbiage
in
here
and
the
verbiage
being
all
of
oakland
county,
not
just
the
existing
services.
M
The
fact
that
we
we
needed
to
have
some
resources
come
to
woda
that
was
put
in
there,
and
I
really
appreciate
that
opportunity
and
I
look
at
the
rest
of
it,
and
I
say
we
fit
into
this:
we
we
not
only
fit
into
paratransit,
we
fit
into
micro
transit
because
it's
almost
the
same
thing,
and
so
what
we've
offered
up
is
that
what
is
not
afraid
to
take
it
on
woda's,
not
afraid
to
grow
and
walter's?
M
Not
afraid
to
be
part
of
the
to
be
an
oakland
county
transit
system,
and
so
we're
not
looking
at
it
as
just
west
oakland
we're
looking
at
it
as
how
can
we
be
party
to
all
of
oakland
and
be
an
assistant
to
make
this
thing
work,
so
it
doesn't
fail
and
we've
got
the
software
to
handle
it.
We've
got
the
dynamo
at
the
top
of
our
group
right
now.
That
knows
how
to
to
make
it
fly,
and
the
other
part
we
have
is.
M
M
All
our
communities,
except
for
wall
lake,
are
opt
out,
so
the
ability
to
have
those
buses
is
what
made
this
be
able
to
move
forward,
but
they're
on
that
end,
where
you've
got
to
dump
big
piles
of
money
from
the
top
and
see
how
it
filters
down,
we've
learned
to
see
how
to
make
it
move
up
the
ladder
at
the
lowest
level
of
cost.
So
I
think
we
have
a
better
handle
on
the
dynamics
of
cost
and
the
dynamics
of
how
we
can
move
forward.
M
And
how
can
we
fit
into
the
numbers
that
you
have
projected
here?
It
takes
a
lot
of
money
to
make
these
things
happen,
but
it's
the
perfect
opportunity
to
have
a
transit
system
in
the
whole
county.
It
will
take
time
because
number
one
you
can't
get
buses,
you
know
so,
and
you
have
to
have
the
resources
for
them
so
on
and
so
forth.
M
It
doesn't
work
when
you
really
try
to
have
a
whole
bunch
of
little
independent
operations,
because
you're
replicating
costs
that
are
too
valuable
to
waste,
and
this
is
the
opportunity
to
reduce
the
amount
of
replication
to
have
the
opportunity
to
be
able
to
work
county-wide
and
to
cover
all
those
little
odds
and
ends.
I
think,
if
you
look
at
the
spreadsheet
that
dave
handed
out,
you
can
see
the
micro
transit
areas
you
can
see
like
for
one.
Let's
start
up
at
the
top
at
where
woda
has
their
they
cover
their
their
area.
M
Then
you
can,
it
says
new
paratransit
coverage,
west
county
could
be
operated
by
woda,
so
you
can
and
then,
if
you
move
down
you'll
see
where
water
can
play
into
these
other
operations.
So
that's
the
kind
of
thing
where
I
realize
this
is
the
opportunity
to
be
able
to
take
advantage
of
something
that
a
lot
of
our
community
leaders
don't
want.
M
They
don't
want
it
because
they're
afraid
of
the
cost,
it
is
a
cost.
Some
people
you
know
waterfront,
is
going
to
pay
2
plus
million
dollars.
That's
a
tax
on
them.
We're
almost
highland's,
almost
a
million.
Our
budget
or
our
operations
are
0.6
mills,
so
you
look
at
0.6
mils.
Of
course
we
don't
operate
only
on
0.6.
Mills
there's
other
resources,
but
so
our
taxpayer
is
0.6
mils
for
our
operations,
0.95
mils
for
transportation.
M
I've
done
meals
on
wheels,
and
you
see
these
people
that
they're
living
off
of
money
that
was
dictated
when
they
retired
30
years
ago
and
they're
just
barely
surviving.
These
buses
have
pulled
people
out
of
their
their
their
dark
holes
in
our
community
and
at
first
a
lot
of
the
seniors
were
a
little
bit
hesitant.
I
don't
want
to
write
a
bus.
You
know
I
don't
want
to
be
caught
on
that
bus
totally
changed.
M
The
general
rationale
behind
the
the
contradiction
is:
what
are
we
going
to
get
for
our
money?
M
My
point
of
view
is:
we've
got
an
opportunity
to
give
everybody
something
for
their
money
and
to
build
it.
That
way,
and
so
it's
a
you
know,
pretty
sure,
there's
going
to
be
some,
my
next
outcast
meeting
there's
going
to
be
some
people
that
go
what
kind
of
idiot
are
you
I'm
the
idiot
that
says
we
got
to
work
together.
M
We
can't
put
this
in
a
political
light
like
a
lot
of
other
stuff
gets
put,
and
we
need
to
be
able
to
service
the
people
who
have
served
us
for
years
and
that's
the
ones
that
can't
travel,
don't
have
transit
and
don't
have
resources
and
that's
what
this
is
about,
and
that's
why
I
support
it.
I
think
it's
a
I
I'm
not
afraid
of
this.
You
know
I'm
not
afraid
of
losing
my
job.
I
don't
care
about
that.
M
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Gershenson.
I
Just
saying
that
you
support
the
greater
good
is
very
gracious
of
you,
and
certainly
what
I
believe
as
well,
and
but
the
fact
that
this
makes
sense
is
a
tribute
to
your
work,
chairman
woodward,
to
greenberg
your
your
assistants
and
all
the
people.
That
said,
you
need
a
plan,
and
that
was
a
big
sticking
point
for
us.
K
In
the
specific
ballot
language,
it
was
spelled
out
in
the
resolution,
but
in
the
actual
ballot
language,
where
it
lists
out.
This
millage
was
approved
revenue
abuse,
first
oakland,
county,
smart
noda
and
spelled
out
older
persons,
commission,
west
oakland
transportation
authority
and
just
to
make
sure
that
the
ballot
language
spelled
out
well.
I
A
Excellent.
Thank
you,
commissioner,
to
echo
commissioner
gershenson
chairman
woodward.
Thank
you
for
your
leadership
in
moving
this
initiative
forward
of
getting
the
open
county
public
transportation
millage
on
the
november
eighth
ballot.
So
thank
you
and
neil
and
supervisor
hamel.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
collaboration
and
work
and
time
that
you've
put
into
this
as
well.
A
My
first
question
is
in
the
attached
documents,
under
the
summary
where
it
gives
the
breakdown
of
the
millage
and
capital
improvements.
My
understanding
we're
looking
at
seven
million
dollars
for
capital
improvements
within
that.
The
question
that
I
have
is
in
communities
that
have
new
proposed
routes.
K
L
Yeah,
that's
that's
a
great
question
and
that's
that's
seven
million
per
year
in
capital
and
there's
there's
a
number
of
number
of
different
sources
to
to
amp
that
up
with
the
grants
federal
state
to
really
to
really
magnify
that
seven
million
to
quite
a
bit
more.
So
in
terms
of
how
that
moves
forward,
one
of
the
things
that
smart
has
done
fairly
well
over
the
past
couple
years
is
they
they've
been
on
a
campaign
to
upgrade
basic
infrastructure
along
current
routes?
L
So
not
all,
but
many
of
the
current
locations
served
by
smart
services
already
do
have
these
basic
upgrades
so
we're
talking
things
like
sidewalk
connectivity
or
a
concrete
pad.
So
if
you're
waiting
for
the
bus
you're,
not
you
know
waiting
in
a
puddle
or
a
gravel
pit,
or
something
like
that,
so
there
there
has
been
an
effort
to
do
that
in
areas
that
currently
do
have
fixed
route
service.
L
As
far
as
some
of
the
new
areas
yeah,
the
the
effort
would
be
to
coordinate
these
capital
investments
with
with
the
service
investments.
So
it's
not
going
to
happen
all
at
once,
of
course,
but
as
there's
there's
a
new
fixed
route
say
going
this
way
or
that
way,
let's,
let's
say,
of
dixie
highway,
which
is
a
job
dense
corridor.
L
There's
a
lot
of
apartments,
there's
a
number
of
destinations,
the
capital
efforts
would
be
kind
of
targeted
to
where,
where
the
fixed
route
is
is,
is
going
and
that's
to
use
the
example
of
infrastructure
like
sidewalks,
and
things
like
that.
There's
also,
of
course
vehicles.
L
So
this
this
helps
to
provide
local
match
to
to
some
of
the
smaller
providers
such
as
noda,
and
what
on
opc,
where,
where
their
vehicle
needs
are,
and
that's
that's
kind
of
on
a
cycle
depending
on
eligibility,
mileage,
vehicle
age,
all
sorts
of
other
things.
So
it's
it's
a
bit
of
a
moving
target.
It
just
kind
of
depends:
what
is
the
condition
of
existing
infrastructure?
Where
is
where's
kind
of
the
squeakiest
wheel
and
that's
going
to
change
from
year
to
year?
L
But
you
know
that
that
that
that
funding,
that
investment
will
will
kind
of
move
and
we'll
follow
the
service.
Excellent.
K
K
I
think,
as
public
leaders
I
have
talked
to
a
number
of
public
leaders
around
the
region,
whether
that's
a
mix
of
community
forums,
earned
media,
I'm
getting
information
out,
I
mean
if
to
the
extent
there
are
costs
there
are,
I
mean
clearly,
people
have
been
working
on
this
space
for
a
long
time
that
are
seeking
opportunities
to
raise
funds
to
help
communicate
that
this
proposal
is
on
the
ballot
and
what
it
means
on
a
bigger
scale.
I
mean
that's
that
this
is.
K
I
know
that
I
will
and
working
with
my
colleagues
make
certain
that
councils
school
boards
and
other
things
have
that
information
and
putting
it
out
senior
centers,
especially
those
those
communities
that
are
in
a
desperate
need
to
have
access
to
these
services,
to
make
sure
that
that
word
is
getting
out,
as
well
as
to
allies
and
supporters
out
there
that
believe
in
this
and
want
to
make
certain
that
the
public
knows
that
this
will
be
on
the
ballot
with
a
host
of
other
issues
on
the
ballot.
This
november.
N
Thank
you
for
your
detailed
explanation,
neil.
I
appreciate
you
expanding
more
on
the
transportation,
the
routes
and
those
types
of
things
I
like
the
idea
of
the
microtransit,
especially
in
northern
oakland
county
and
even
in
southern
oakland
county.
Those
large
buses
or
even
smaller
cars,
are
going
to
have
a
hard
time
making
it
down
those
subdivision
streets
to
go
door
to
door
to
pick
up
customers.
N
So
capital
improvements
will
be
much
needed
with
our
current
infrastructure
that
we
have
question
regarding
the
smart
credits
right
now,
communities
are
operating,
some
of
them
are
operating
that
don't
have
an
opt-in,
but
they
get
credits
to
have
a
bus
and
what
will
happen
if
this
millage
passes
to
those
communities
that
have
buses
from
smart?
N
L
There's
there's
two
programs
right
now:
there's
the
there's
the
municipal
credits
program,
which
is
a
state
program,
smart
administers
it
and
all
communities
qualify
for
municipal
credits.
So,
let's,
let's
let's
say,
rose
township,
not
an
opt-in
community,
but
a
community
within
the
metropolitan
area.
So
they
they
qualify
as
you
all
communities
for
municipal
credits,
which
is
a
state
program
smarts
to
pass
through,
so
that
money
will
continue
to
be
passed
through
because
that's
a
state
program.
L
Smart
itself
also
has
a
community
credit
program
which
is
eligible
which
opt-in,
community
current
opt-in
communities
are
eligible
for.
So,
if
you're,
if
you're
southfield,
for
instance,
in
addition
to
getting
the
municipal
credits,
which
is
a
state
program,
you
also
qualify
for
community
credits
through
smart.
L
In
this
scenario,
there
is
no
more
opt-in
opt-out,
so
the
yes,
the
community
credit
eligibility
expands
and
and
there's
there's
more
there's
more
resources
to
kind
of
extend
those
benefits
to
all
communities
in
oakland
county.
So
so
effectively,
everyone
qualifies
for
community
credits
are
equivalent,
so.
N
M
Okay,
do
you
understand
that's
an
absolute
question
that
has
to
be
answered
because
we
are
nota
or
wota
has
smart?
Well,
actually
they
belong
to
the
communities.
That's
that's
what
is
kind
of
a
weird
deal,
so
highland
township
quote,
owns
them
and
waterford
owns
them,
and
then
we
commit
them
to
wota
for
their
use
and
there's
so
there's
a
lot
of
little
kind
of
interplaying
contracts
in
there
that
we
have
to
be
sure
that
we
all
of
a
sudden,
don't
lose
all
the
buses.
M
Fortunately,
woda
has
purchased
some
of
their
own
buses
so
that
we
don't
they're
not
tied
to
smart,
but
not
enough
to.
At
this
point
I
mean
to
jump
off
to
a
quick
start.
You
know,
but
it's
it's
one
of
those
things
that
if,
if
we
have
to
know
that
answer,
but
I
don't
know
how
it's
going
to
work.
L
N
K
They
will
right
absolutely
and-
and
I
think
also
to
underscore
the
I
mean-
the
seven
million
dollars
annually
of
additional
capital-
that's
available
to
acquire
more
buses,
so
I
mean
again
to
help
to
the
expansion
point
of
view
for
the
microchange
and
paratransit
needs
that
out
there
I
mean
the
other
issue.
I
mean.
I
think
this
is
like
something
I
don't
know
how
much
in
the
weeds
that
people
want
to
get.
Is
the
the
systems
and
structures
to
maintain
these
vehicles
and
we've
got.
I
mean
I
think
the
woda
system's
got.
K
I
mean
buses
on
thing
that
are
beyond
their
life
expectancy.
We've
got
to
upgrade,
I
mean
for
safety
reasons,
department,
transportation
requirements,
all
these
other
types
of
things.
What's
the
process
to
move
forward,
and
just
think
I
mean
the
economies
of
scale
doing
this
all
together
I
mean,
will
save
money
and
stretch
those
dollars
to
be
able
to
deliver
on
that.
J
I
would
or
would
want
to
have
mr
greenberg
give
us
your
introduction
again
in
your
history.
With
this
I
was
so
impressed
with
your
grassroots
beginnings.
You.
L
You
know
what
it
means
a
lot.
Well,
thank
you
for
that.
I
guess
probably
the
the
best
way
to
say
it
is,
and
I
can't
take
credit
for
this
phrase,
but
I
definitely
relate
to
it.
I'm
an
old
bus
driver
who
got
lost
in
the
administrative
office
and
never
found
his
way
out
so
I've
worn
a
couple.
Different
hats
in
the
biz
still
got
my
commercial
driver's
license.
My
you
know
fantasy
situation.
L
If
someone
says
quick
who
has
a
cdl
who
can
drive
the
bus,
I
feel
like
I
wasn't
the
only
one
here
but
yeah.
You
know
I've
had
the
the
privilege
and
the
joy
and
sometimes
the
frustration
to
work
with
a
couple
dozen
different
transit
systems
in
all
areas
of
the
country
and
there's
always
something
to
learn.
It's
it's
a
great
industry
in
that
there's
such
eagerness
to
share
and
learn
from
each
other.
L
You
know
I'm
here
in
oakland
county,
I'm
kind
of
thinking
like
oh,
how
do
they
do
this
in
fairfax
county
virginia
or
you
know,
snohomish
county
washington,
or
you
know
these
other
places
where
there's
there's
a
lot
of
parallels
and
how
do
we
kind
of
take
the
best
of
concepts
that
are
proven
elsewhere
and
kind
of
customize
them?
You
know,
tailor
them
for
our
unique
local
context
here
and
make
the
best.
So
you
know
it's
it's
great
to
be
able
to
work
in
the
space
and
all
else
fails.
A
N
I'll
support,
so
I
like
that
you
have
spelled
out
the
verbiage
of
north
oakland
transportation
and
west
oakland
transportation
and
opc
or
older
persons.
Commission.
N
I
would
like
to
add
that
in
the
almost
let
me
see
one
two
three
fourth,
whereas.
N
Or
I'm
sorry,
fifth,
whereas
to
distribute
no
fourth,
whereas
to
distribute
the
millage
to
the
individual
communities.
If
we
could
put
in
at
a
level
of
funding
no
less
than-
and
I
think
you
have
stated
noda
gets
1.6
quota
would
get
2.2
million
and
opc
just
to
spell
out
the
level
of
funding
that
is
proposed
in
the
resolution
and
make
that
at
a
a
level
no
less
than
I
don't
know.
If
I'm
clear.
N
A
All
righty
now
that
we're
back
from
our
break
I'd
like
to
reiterate
the
motion.
That's
on
the
table,
so
commissioner
joliet
has
made
a
motion
for
an
amendment
and
it
looks
like
the
amendment
will
include
so
inserted
in
the
fourth,
whereas
clause
to
add
at
a
level
of
funding,
no
less
than
1.6
million
for
noda,
2.0
million
for
rota
and
1
million
for
opc,
and
I
support
that
amendment.
And
so
now
commissioners
is
open
for
discussion.
Commissioner
gerstensen.
K
K
I
mean
why
I'm
very
comfortable
with
it
is
that
for
this
to
work,
woda
has
to
not
only
be
able
to
maintain
what
they're
doing,
but
have
to
be
hugely
successful.
For
this
to
work
similar
with
nodo-
and
I
talked
I
mean
with-
I
mean
the
executive
director
of
some
of
these
other-
I
mean
transit
agencies.
K
I
I
could
feel
the
energy
like.
Well,
we
could
figure
this
out.
We
won't,
we
won't
necessarily
have
to
be
confined
by
the
boundaries
that's
set
in
our
current
system.
We
can
get
people
where
they
need
to
go,
and
so
setting
that
as
a
floor
I
mean,
I
think,
is
I
mean-
is
appropriate.
I
mean
similar
to
I
mean,
what's
required,
to
get
off
the
ground
and
if
that
gives
more
assurance
like
this,
is
I
mean
so
we
can
tell
the
world
this
is
what's
happening.
I
feel
like
well.
I
K
I
L
Well,
it's
also
worth
adding.
Considering
the
the
you
know
say
say:
the
revenue
falls
a
little
bit:
okay,
the
hit
of
a
500
000
reduction
to
noda,
or
what
our
opc
would
be
devastating.
L
A
N
A
A
Motion
carries
thank
you,
chairman
woodward
supervisor,
hamill
and
neil
for
joining
us
this
morning.
Thank
you.
So
much
all
right.
Commissioners.
Last
stop
our
final
item
today
is
our
second
public
comment.
As
a
reminder,
individuals
will
have
the
opportunity
to
have
three
minutes
to
talk
on
any
items,
whether
it's
on
the
agenda
or
not
on
the
agenda.
So
at
this
time
I'd
like
to
open
up
public
comments.
F
A
A
F
I
appreciate
her
speaking
up
for
for
margaret
brown
and
I
was
wondering
if
there
is
some
reason
why
there
can't
be
two
citizen
representatives
on
it
and
that
will
add
in
someone
who
seems
like
she
would
be
a
watch,
a
good
watchdog
over
it,
because
she
was
the
only
one
that
said
that
there's
some
doubts
about
some
things
that
sometimes
happen
in
land
banks
and
that
she
would
be
watching
for
those
and
it
does
to
the
chair's
concern,
is
we'll
add
in
another
another
double
minority
on
to
the
to
the
board
and
catherine
kennedy
had
to
leave.
F
F
F
F
That
concludes
what
she
she
wrote
and
I
like
to
comment
on
the
the
millage
for
transportation.
F
We
already
have
9.1
percent
inflation
and
it's
probably
been
increased
and
beyond
that
and
then
there's
property
values
are
going
to
be
rising
because
of
inflation.
F
And
I'd
like
you
to
consider
it
consider
that,
as
that's,
the
primary
goal
of
the
oakland
county
commission
is
to
look
out
for
the
oakland
county
residents.
Thank
you.
A
Is
there
anyone
else
from
the
public
who
would
like
to
address
the
legislative
affairs
government
operation
good
morning
or
good
afternoon?.
O
I
know
you
guys
like
to
wait
for
me.
Thank
you
so
much
I
didn't
know
if
I
was
gonna
make
it
heather
smiley
lake
orion,
I'm
kind
of
going
to
bounce
off
of
what
ross
said.
O
I
know
for
the
last
year
several
of
us
citizens
have
been
coming
out
in
regards
to
the
increase
in
taxes
that
you
guys
keep
pushing
with
all
your
inflated
budgets
and
resolutions,
but
each
time
we
bring
that
to
attention,
we
are
denied
that
there
is
actually
no
raise
in
taxes
or
foreclosed
homes,
which
we
now
see.
That
is
completely
untrue.
I
see
in
your
2023
fiscal
budget
that
there
is
an
overall
property
tax
revenue
net
increase
of
over
16
million
dollars.
O
That
includes
16.1
five
taxable
value
increase
in
property
and
a
millage
rate
of
3.98
blah
blah
blah
again,
you
guys
are
trying
to
incorporate
another
millage
onto
our
property
tax,
with
no
consideration
to
inflation,
to
gas,
to
groceries
to
the
regular
average
person
who
necessarily
can't
provide
for
their
family,
let
alone
pay
additional
property
tax
value.
That's
just
going
to
add
to
the
foreclosures
jumping
off
of
the
land
bank.
O
If
any
of
you
have
gone
on
to
that
tax,
id
link
it
on
the
very
first
page
says:
if
you're,
not
a
us
citizen,
please
fill
out
this
information
and
attach
your
credit
card.
When
has
it
been
a
good
idea
for
local
communities
to
sell
their
property
to
international
investors
and
buyers?
I
don't
see
that
being
good
for
our
taxable
value
in
the
future
or
our
communities
in
the
future.
O
You
know
that's
really
something
that
should
be
again
given
the
right
to
our
citizens
to
families.
Is
there
any
way
to
donate
it?
To
some
of
these,
you
know
habitat
for
humanity,
programs
where
they
can
rehab
it
for
people
in
need.
I
mean
there's
just
got
to
be
a
better
way.
There's
got
to
be
a
better
way
to
keep
our
community
safe
from
basically
a
sanctuary
city,
a
sanctuary
county
and
a
sanctuary
state.
O
You
know:
we've
got
hud
grants
that
are
through
the
state
and
federal,
but
now
oakland
county
is
trying
to
push
those
through.
Those
are
more
tax
dollars
that
are
coming
out
of
our
pockets
and
we're
tired
of
it.
You
guys
don't
seem
to
be
listening
to
the
community
and,
while
I
know
primary
elections
didn't
go
in
my
favor,
I
think
it
was
a
shakeup
that
somehow
someway
there
is
32
percent
of
people
who
don't
know
my
name.
O
That
now
know
my
name,
so
I
think
it's
just
a
victory
for
the
little
people
that
we
are
starting
to
pay
attention
and
we
are
in
your
communities
and
we
can't
afford
what
you're
pushing
we
can't
afford
the
bills
that
you're
passing
and
some
of
us
will
have
to
move
out
of
lake
oregon.
Oxford.
I've
talked
not
me,
don't
worry,
I'm
not
going
anywhere
well,
lots
of
people
have
decided
they
have
to
sell
their
homes
because
they
cannot
afford
what
is
going
on.
O
You
know,
there's
a
lot
of
development,
there's
a
lot
of
building,
there's
a
lot
of
destruction
of
our
our
communities,
of
the
reasons
that
we
move
to
oakland
county
and
I
think
that
it's
just
something
we
got
to
step
back
and
really
take
a
look
at
the
greater
picture.
How
are
these
improvements
or
progressions
going
to
affect
our
public
safety?
Our
community,
our
schools,
our
wages
in
the
area,
I
also
want
to
kind
of
touch
base
on
the
transit.
O
C
C
It's
going
to
allow
individuals
to
travel
without
having
to
beg
for
a
ride
without
having
to
plead
a
neighbor
to
get
him
somewhere.
It's
going
to
allow
an
individual
to
stand
up
on
their
own
two
legs
to
move
from
place
to
place
to
be
independent,
and
this
will
allow
individuals
to
become
strong
citizens
that
can
vote
and
make
their
own
decisions.
C
A
Do
we
have
support
support
by
commissioner
joliette,
all
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye,
aye
opposed
motion
approved
and,
lastly,
without
further
objection.
I'd
like
to
adjourn
this
legislative
affairs
and
government
operations
committee
meeting,
so
thank
you.
Everyone.