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A
Excellent.
Thank
you.
Next
up,
we'll
move
on
to
the
approval
of
the
minutes.
If
there
aren't
any
corrections
to
the
minutes
dated
april
5th
2022,
do
we
have
a
motion
motion
by
commissioner
lubes
support
by
commissioner
juliette?
All
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
minutes
approved
next
up,
we'll
move
on
to
the
approval
of
our
agenda.
Do
we
have
a
motion
motion
by
commissioner
joliet
support
by
commissioner
lubes?
A
All
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye,
hi
hi
opposed
jen,
is
approved
next
up,
we'll
move
on
to
our
first
public
comment
as
a
reminder,
this
is
for
items
that
are
specific
to
the
agenda
at
hand
today.
So
at
this
time,
if
there's
any
individuals
from
the
public
who'd
like
to
come
forward,
please
make
your
way
to
the
head
of
the
table
state
your
name
city.
You
reside
in
an
item
immediately
speaking
to
good
afternoon
good
afternoon.
D
Ross
barranco
novi
the
last
time
we
y'all
had
a
meeting
on
on
these
issues.
There
was
a
comment
of
a
50
percent
work
week
and
I
had
asked
a
question
about
well.
How
do
you
define
50
percent
of
five
days?
Is
that
two
and
a
half
days?
D
So
I
was
wondering
if
y'all
have
addressed
that
here
and
that
will
be
defined
better
this
time
and
also
on
the
the
hiring
of
the
the
swimmers,
the
the
lifeguards
that
I
I
couldn't
see
the
point
of
giving
a
bonus
for
doing
part
of
the
season
to
me,
it
seems
like
you,
should
only
have
the
bonus
at
the
end
of
the
season
and
make
sure
they
go
through
the
whole
season
before
they
get
any
kind
of
bonus,
and
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
may
have
been
addressed
in
the
interim
and
I'd
like
to
see.
A
See
none.
I
will
close
public
comment
next
up.
Given
we've
got
no
communication
items
we'll
move
on
down
to
our
regular
agenda.
We've
got
item
a
which
is
human
resources,
collective
bargaining
agreement,
fiscal
years
2022
through
2025
with
the
international
union
of
operating
engineers,
local
324
for
representing
non-supervised
employees
and
the
facilities
maintenance
and
operations
heating
plant.
Do
we
have
a
motion
motion
by
commissioner
loop
support
by
commissioner
gershenson
good
afternoon
april?.
E
E
So
in
this
union
this
was,
we
did
some,
what
we
call
classification
adjustments
for
them.
We
actually
align
them
more
with
the
trades
of
boiler
operators
they
typically
roll
as
it
relates.
They
have
different
levels
of
operation,
a
level
one
level
two
and
a
level
three,
and
so
we
created
space
for
those
folks
and
those
employees
who
are
interested
in
in
getting
more
trades
experience
and
building
up
their
credentialing
to
get
all
the
way
up
to
a
level
three.
E
A
B
You
commissioners,
commissioner
gershenson
did
you
say
11.
E
There's
each
when
you're
in
a
trade
for
boiler,
operation,
there's
three
levels:
level:
one
level
two
and
level
three.
E
A
Commissioners,
any
further
questions
or
discussion
on
this
item
see
none.
Please
prompt
the
vote.
A
Five
years,
zero
knees
motion
carries
next
up,
we'll
move
on
to
our
second
item
of
the
agenda,
which
is
again:
human
resources,
collective
bargaining
agreement,
fiscal
years
2022
through
2024
to
supplemental
with
uaw
local
889
for
representing
health
and
human
services,
supervisory
and
non-supervised
employees.
Do
we
have
a
motion
motion
by
commissioner
lewd
second
by
commissioner
gerstensen
again
welcome.
E
April
yep,
as
you
know,
we
had
a
master
agreement
with
the
uaw
back
in
december
of
2020
and
since
then,
we've
had
a
few
supplementals
that
would
attach
to
that
master
agreement
so
again,
very
specific
to
the
department's
needs
and
that
particular
group
of
employees
in
this
instance.
This
is
our
health
and
human
services
division.
They
also
have
a
nurses
group
that
is
in
the
michigan
nurses
association.
E
So
this
is
all
employees
within
the
health
and
human
services
that
are
not
nurses,
and
so
just
as
we
have
in
the
past,
I
think
you
guys
are
becoming
quite
familiar
it
again.
It
memorialized
things
that
were
in
play
here.
E
There
was
a
little
bit
more
specifics
in
how
we
do
overtime
and
on
call,
and
also
a
lot
of
discussion
around
vaccine
and
protection
there,
just
obviously
due
to
covid
so
made
a
little
bit
more
clarity
for
all
of
them
in,
in
as
it
relates
to
pandemics
or
any
type
of
future,
covet
exposure,
so
just
more
again
aligning
with
what
they
do
and
memorializing
as
much
as
we
could.
B
Excellent.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
A
E
The
original,
what
we
call
the
master
agreement,
was
back
in
december
of
2020,
and
so
as
new
units
come
on,
we
deal
with
those
specifically
now
when
this
contract
expires
in
2024.
I
would
imagine
they
will
all
come
on
at
this.
They
will
come
at
the
same
time.
So
that's
why
it's
just
like
one
time.
Each
time
there's
a
unit
right.
E
Correct
so
they
they
took
each
unit,
if
you
will
it
within
within
the
department
and
met
with
each
of
them
individually
and
closely.
This
is
what
you
have,
but
when
we
go
in
2024
when
this
expires,
I
would
more,
I
would
believe
I
would
bring
all
of
them
and
all
of
the
other
supplementals
as
well.
At
one
time,
it'll
be
a
pretty
hefty
contract
got
it.
Thank
you.
A
A
Five
years,
zero
nays
emotion
carries
next
up
we'll
move
on
to
our
third
item,
which
is
item
c:
human
resources,
collective
bargaining
agreement,
fiscal
year,
2022
wage
reopener
with
the
oakland
county
employees
union
affiliated
with
the
international
brotherhood
of
electrical
workers,
local
58
afl-cio.
Do
we
have
a
motion
motion
by
commissioner
loop
support
by
commissioner
jackson
again.
E
Welcome
april,
thank
you.
This
is
our
ibw,
which
is
the
electrical
workers.
They
have
a
wage
reopener
this
year.
This
will
be
their
final
wage
reopener,
and
then
we
actually
just
started
bargaining
on
monday
for
their
multi-year
contract.
E
So
this
will
be
the
last
individual
date
and
overall,
it's
just
specifically
on
wages
that
they
received
a
four
percent
increase
for
all
classification,
all
classifications,
except
for
maintenance
labor,
which
is
their
lowest
their
lowest
wage
earners
and
has
been
the
most
difficult
to
fill
and
to
keep
due
to
the
to
the
labor
that
they
do
each
day.
Excellent.
Thank
you.
A
Commissioners
questions
commissioner
kolkendorfer,
followed
by
commissioner
juliette.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
april
for
this.
You
know
I
understand
the
six
percent
that
sometimes
positions
are
more
difficult
to
fill
than
others,
the
general
four
percent,
though
across
the
board,
the
others.
You
know,
I
I
think
that's
higher
than
we
typically
see
in
these.
Can
you
elaborate
a
little
bit
more
on?
Why
sure.
E
Again,
most
of
these
are
our
lower
wage
earners
all
the
way
across
the
board.
Custodians
laborers,
all
of
those
that
are
out
in
the
field
and
all
three
units
are
there's
actually
five
units
in
here
were
are
all
struggling
with
the
same
retention
and
attraction
as
well
as
taking
a
look
at
market,
so
they
were
just
again
as
we've
been
moving
through.
All
of
our
unions.
E
We've
been
doing
a
little
bit
more
focus
on
what
the
needs
are
of
those
particular
departments
versus
a
the
same
across
the
board,
because
everybody
has
unique
needs.
A
A
Sure,
commissioner,
julia
followed
by
commissioner
gershon
said
no
you're
good,
okay,.
H
So
you
said
this
is
the
reopener
and
you're
already
or
you're
beginning
to
start
their
multi-year
contract
so
there'll.
Be
then
another
increase
after
this
that
will
be
negotiated.
E
For
their
current
for
the
current
fiscal
year,
going
back
to
october
1st,
so
the
new
one
will
come
in
again
they're
all
effective
october
1st.
So
as
we
go
through
this
current
negotiations,
it
will
be
for
october
first
and
then
it'll
move
on
for
whatever
three
or
four
years
every
october.
First
and.
H
Okay,
I'm
just
concerned
about,
I
recognize
the
need
for
retention
and
how
it's
hard
to
find
employees.
But
I
think
that
you
could
pretty
much
say
that
across
the
county
and
I'm
just
concerned
about
the
precedent
that
this
will
set
in
terms
of
a
domino
effect
in
terms
of
the
other
unions
that
have
negotiated
in
good
faith,
the
one
and
a
half
percent
and
the
two
percents
and
I'm
uncomfortable
with
what
that.
What
that
means.
With
just
two
percent.
Two
percent
interested.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner,
are.
E
F
E
Not
no
because
it
while
it
is
a
factor,
every
union
has
had
very
specific
needs,
these
last
go-arounds
and
we've.
Actually,
we
only
have
two
more
contracts
left
so
right
now
we're
in
the
middle
of
the
sheriff,
both
the
sheriff
and
the
command
unit,
and
then
ibw
starts
a
new
one.
So
I
will
of
course
take
into
consideration
what
they
received
this
year
as
we
go
into
bargaining
for
this
next
go-around
as
well.
E
F
B
A
April
for
my
understanding,
there's
what
there's
nine
oakland
county
unions
now
we
have
11,
I
think
now
we
do
have
11..
Is
it
so?
I'm
learning
with
all
these?
At
this
point,
we've
had
a
lot
of
labor
agreements
come
before
us
this
year,
and
so
is
it.
A
E
B
E
So
what
happens
is
when
you
have
a
metoo
clause?
You
have
established
a
rate
so
whether
it's
two
percent
or
one
percent
or
whatever
it
was
established
during
the
time
of
the
contract.
The
me
too
extends
to
any
general
salary
increase
that
we
do.
So
if
we
were
to
do
a
a
general
salary
increase
at
any
given
time,
then
if
it
was
more
than
what
was
in
the
current
contract,
then
they
would
be
able
to
those.
E
H
Commissioner,
juliet
just
a
one,
quick
question
for
something
you
just
said,
so
you
said
that
they
do
not
have
a
me
too
this
year.
They
do
not.
Does
that
change
on
a
year
to
year
or
a
contract.
B
E
Yeah
they're
all
a
little
different
in
that,
I
think
we're
all
feeling
the
great
resignation,
but
these
are
the
ones
that
they're
having
the
hardest
time
because
they're
the
lowest
wage
earners
it's
hard
when
wendy's
is
putting
out
20
an
hour,
even
though
there's
so
much
more
to
that
story
than
that
that
that's
been
the
the
struggle
here,
they're
all
everybody's
hurting
in
some
level,
but
this
one
retention
as
well
as
the
attraction
is
becoming
more
difficult
for
those
that
are
working
out
outside
in
the
field
and
those
labor
positions.
E
E
Well,
yeah,
I
mean
law
enforcement
is
another
one.
Thank
you,
hillary.
That
one
is
huge.
I
mean
that
one
is
beyond
the
great
resignation
and
it's
it's
an
issue
all
the
way
around
of
lack
of
applicants
and
competing
with
each
other,
so
that
one
I
would
say
of
all
of
them.
That
would
be
probably
the
worst
but
a
very
different
problem,
but
thank
you.
Yeah.
F
B
Thank
you
april.
A
Given
that
the
one
this
the
ibew
it
sounds
like,
they
have
a
wage
reopener
in
october,
first
of
2022
already,
knowing
that
they
have
the
four
percent
right
now,
which
is
higher.
A
If
they
choose
to
sorry
for
a
lack
of
better
words,
adopt,
let's
say
a
me
too
clause:
could
they
then
do
they
get
then
everything
that
has
been
given
prior
to
october?
First,
that
the
other
contracts
who
have
me
too
clauses
get
no.
E
So
let
I
hear
what
you're
asking
so
right
now
remember.
This
particular
salary
increase
is
for
october
1st
of
2021.
It
started
so
in
2022
we
have
a
whole
new
contract,
so
it'll
be
22
23
24..
If
we
go
beyond
that,
it'll
be
all
the
way
through
26..
E
A
Next
few
years,
thank
you,
commissioners.
Further
questions.
A
See
none,
please
prompt
the
vote.
B
A
Fouriers
two
nays
motion
carries
well
thank
you
april
for
coming
before
us
again.
Thank
you.
A
B
B
Yeah,
it's
you
want
me
to
do
the
vote
again.
B
A
No
problem
next
up
we'll
move
on
to
our
last
item,
which
is
item
d,
the
parks
and
recreation,
other
action
for
seasonal,
employee
salary
and
incentive
changes
at
our
oakland
county
parks.
Do
we
have
a
motion
motion
by
commissioner
joliet
support
by
commissioner
lups
and
I
believe
we've
got
director
chris
ward,
thank
you
for
joining
us.
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee.
I
think
you
all
know
phil
my
bodyguard
by
now.
I
appreciate
your
consideration
of
this.
For
those
of
you
who
are
at
the
last
meeting,
you
recall
we
had
an
opportunity
to
provide
some
testimony
background.
Of
course,
this
all
relates
to
issues
we're
having
with
hiring
seasonal
staff
for
this
upcoming
season.
G
Last
season
we
had
some
pretty
significant
challenges
at
parks
and
rec,
which
resulted
in
partial
closures,
delays
and
even
the
closure
of
the
waterford
oaks
wave
pool.
So
we've
been
trying
to
get
ahead
of
this
all
the
way
through
the
recruitment
season
and
we're
running
a
little
bit
behind
what
we
would
normally
be
at
at
this
point
in
time,
so
we
we're
again
just
trying
to
get
ahead
of
it.
G
We've
looked
at
some
of
our
competitor
or
other
recreation
organizations
they're
all
struggling,
especially
with
lifeguards
as
well-
and
I
have
you
know,
come
forward
with
this
request
for
your
approval.
The
500
lifeguard
bonus
for
completing
100
hours,
so
we
already
have
a
300
bonus
for
completing
the
training
and
working
for
new
lifeguards.
G
One
of
the
great
things
about
this
is:
we
do
have
some
retaining
issues
there
and
getting
retention
in
our
returning
lifeguards,
and
so
this
provides
a
good
benefit
and
opportunity
for
them
to
be
able
to
enjoy
that
bonus
in
an
equal
way
in
terms
of
the
100
hours
versus
the
full
season.
It's
a
reasonable
statement
we're
dealing
with
a
lot
of
variables
right
now.
If
we
don't
get
enough
lifeguards,
we
might
be
down
to
you
know
limited
hours
three
days
a
week
two
days
a
week,
and
so
we
have
to
set
some
limited.
G
G
Last
year
we
had
a
whole
group
of
staff
that
had
no
transportation
that
we
shuttled
back
and
forth
from
park
to
park.
So
you
know
we
see
an
opportunity
to
perhaps
utilize
this
to
expand
our
pool
of
applicants
and
then,
finally,
just
because
this
continues
to
be
an
evolving
situation,
we're
asking
for
your
permission
and
authority
as
basically
a
fail-safe
for
up
to
another
200
000
dollars
in
fiscal
impact
to
just
continue
to
address.
G
B
Excellent
commissioners
questions.
A
I
know,
mr,
oh
I'm
sorry.
No,
that's!
Okay!
Go
ahead.
I
know
in
our
previous
discussions
that
was
had.
We
were
looking
at
an
estimated
cost.
Is
there
an
update
on
that?
You
could
just
provide
us.
I
know
that
was
a
big
question
that
resulted
to
this
meeting
today.
So
please
manager.
G
H
G
So
there
again
we've
provided
you
a
range,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
variables
there
we're
not
sure
how
many
employees
we're
going
to
be
able
to
recruit.
So
we've
got
everything
from
kind
of
our
current
trajectory
to
hitting
our
target
employment,
and
then
we've
got
you
know
with
the
transportation
assistance.
We
have
no
experience
with
that
and
the
fail
safe.
There
is
really
you
know,
dependent
on
on
the
need,
so.
A
Well,
as
I
said
during
our
last
legislative
affairs
and
government
operations
committee,
I
do
support
this
as
a
resident
of
waterford.
I
know
how
important
the
water
park
the
the
wave
pool
is.
I'm
gonna
call
it
as
the
wave
pool,
because
that's
how
we
all
know
it
over
here,
it's
the
wave
pool,
and
so
I
appreciate
all
the
efforts
that
parks
has
been
putting
in.
I
mean
my
goodness
when
we
heard
the
testimony
at
our
last
meeting.
A
A
I
think
that
was
where
we
had
a
pretty
extensive
discussion
during
our
last
meeting,
so
I
do
appreciate
you
bringing
forward
some
estimations,
but
I
I
do
understand
that
it's
just
that
because
we
don't
know
yet
it
sounds
like
we're
still
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
have
at
least
the
bare
minimum,
so
we
can
keep
our
parks
open.
So
I
I
continue
to
support
this.
So,
thank
you,
commissioners,
any
other
questions
or
any
item
for
discussion.
Commissioner
gershon.
So.
C
Chris,
can
you
give
us
an
up
to
date,
picture
of
which
water
parks
are
in
jeopardy
or
which
parks
are
in
jeopardy?.
G
Yeah,
so
we
have
two
water
parks.
We
have
one
in
madison
heights
at
red
oaks
and
we
have
here
at
waterford
oaks.
The
water
park
was
focused
on
the
wave
pool
at
this
point.
As
I
said
last
season,
you
know
the
attempt
was
made
to
open
them
both
and
because
there
just
was
not
enough
lifeguards.
G
They
took
the
lifeguards
that
were
available
from
waterford
oaks
chose
to
close
the
wave
pool
there
and
transported
the
lifeguards
that
were
recruited
for
waterford
oaks
down
to
red
oaks,
which
had
a
delayed
opening
in
limited
hours
and
there's
some
additional
features
there,
like
it's,
the
lazy
river
is
that
right
that
they
did
not
fully
open
up
last
year,
so
it's
going
to
be
dependent
on
how
many
we
recruit.
G
We
really
have
been
trying
to
fulfill
a
commitment
to
the
residents
in
the
area
to
reopen
that
way,
pool
in
waterford
oaks
every
year
that
we're
not
open.
You
know
it
really
does
feel
like
we're,
not
fully
servicing.
You
know
the
surrounding
area
and
it's
also
kind
of
hurting
our
feeder
system
of
lifeguards
for
the
future
as
well.
Yeah.
C
G
C
G
J
It's
the
most
staff
intense.
I
believe
it's
nine
lifeguards
to
open
it
because
of
the
way
it
was
designed
and
the
blind
corners,
and
we
can.
If
we
have
nine
lifeguards,
we
can
get
the
wave
pool
and
waterside
open.
So
it
is.
It
is
a
priority
to
open
it
because
it
is
everyone's
favorite
attraction,
but
it
wouldn't
look
very
good
just
to
have
the
lazy
river
open,
not
the
other
attraction,
because
they
can
hold
more
people
and.
C
G
G
Hr
has
been
very
helpful.
April's
been
very
helpful,
so
it's
just
you
know
getting
over
here.
Getting
on
your
calendar
getting
before
the
board.
You
know
we
just
don't
want
to.
You
know,
see
unnecessary
delays
when
we're
out
there
we're
holding
job
fairs
all
the
time.
I
think
we're
having
one
this
weekend
right.
So
you
know
with
your
approval
today
we'll
be
able
to
put
this
out
into
the
community
and
hopefully
improve
our
recruitment
efforts.
G
I
was
actually
just
looking
at
here
on
clinton,
metro,
park's
website.
You
know
they
do
have
several
incentives,
one
of
which
is
the
same
with
the
dollar
an
hour
bonus,
there's
other
local
communities.
Actually,
I
was
reading
about
one
that's
offering
twenty
five
hundred
dollars,
so
we
all
might
wanna
take
lifeguard
training
at
that
point.
J
One
of
the
your
point
on
doing
in
july.
We
may
have
to
do
something
in
july
to
to
make
sure
our
season
lasts.
As
long
as
we
want
to
last
I
mean
we're
our
goals:
don't
stay
open
through
labor
day,
so
the
college
kids
are
a
tough
one
that
if
they
leave
for
college,
we
lose
them.
If
there's
some
incentive
to
get
them,
you
know
another
week
or
another
couple
days
they
don't
cut
out
as
early.
We
may
tap
into
that
just
to
extend
our
season
so
sure.
A
Six
yays
zero
name
motion
carries
thank
you
so
much
mr
board
and
phil
for
coming.
Thank
you.
Next
up
we'll
move
on
to
our
final
public
comment.
A
I
Is
isn't
it
good
afternoon?
Commissioners?
My
name
is
catherine
kennedy,
I'm
from
lake
orion
and
I'm
actually
very
concerned
that
we
have
so
many
late
breaking
meetings.
This
was
called
a
special
logo
meeting
and
I
didn't
see
any
data
attached
anywhere
until
today
or
yesterday,
but
there's
a
lot
of
data
that
gets
attached
to
these
meetings.
So
I
always
find
that
concerning
to
begin
with
I'm
a
little
concerned
too.
We
have
so
many
wage,
reopeners
and
salary
increases
scheduled
when
there
were
just
a
lot
of
salary
increases
that
just
happened.
I
Last
year,
coulter
seemed
to
have
added
between
2020
and
2022
394
positions,
and
we
were
running
in
the
red,
a
small,
what
they
call
it
imbalance
in
the
current
budgeting,
so
we're
already
spending
more
than
we're
bringing
in
on
an
existing
budget.
I
The
fact
that
we're
already
running
4
million
consistently
in
the
red
ought
to
balance.
They
didn't
say
those
words.
I
can't
remember
the
exact
term
that
was
used,
but
because
we
had
the
money
to
sweep
into
it
it's
the
december
6
21
finance
committee.
You
need
to
look
it
up
where
they
had
all
the
different
deficit
noted
and
the
m
b
management
and
budget
variances
from
the
year-end
audit,
and
that
I
find
terribly
concerning
because
coming
from
a
financial
background,
a
company
always
does
an
audit
once
a
year.
I
I
Yet
that's
the
only
area
I
see
reductions
and
I
see
huge
welfare
programs
being
introduced
brand
new
housing
trusts
and
all
these
things
that
are
in
theory
to
benefit
but
in
reality
aren't
affordable,
not
viable,
and
my
first
home
was
a
hud
house
in
detroit.
It
took
me
19
years
to
move
to
lake
oregon
from
there.
I
My
fourth
house
upgrade
up,
so
I
guess
not
that
I
I
just
think
we
really
need
to
stop
and
evaluate
what
we're
doing
before
we
create
these
programs
into
perpetuity
and
all
these
additional
raises
with
all
this
extra
staff,
that's
grown
before
even
understanding
what
our
revenue
will
be,
because
the
ultimate
it'll
be
raising
all
the
property
taxes
at
all
the
current
people
and
then
they're
in
trouble.
Thank
you
very
much.
K
Good
evening
hi
I'm
sandra
carlian
from
novi,
unlike
normal.
I
don't
have
any
notes
today.
I
got
here
a
little
bit
later,
but
I
was
really
concerned
and
I'm
sure
I
didn't
have
any
chance
to
even
talk
to
catherine,
but
I
am
concerned
like
she
is
about
the
expenditures
I
used
to
go
to
a
church
and
the
pastor
had
a
financial
seminar,
and
this
was
the
seminar
spend
less
than
you
make
end
of
seminar,
and
I
thought
it
made
a
lot
of
sense.
K
K
I
don't
see
you
drawing
the
kind
of
people
that
are
going
to
protect
your
liability
when
someone
passes
out
or
dies
on
that
park,
because
people
were
there
for
the
money
not
for
the
enjoyment
of
the
experience
and
the
learning
that
they
could
do
in
the
saving
of
people's
lives.
I
am
really
concerned
about
thinking
money
thrown
at
school
shootings
and
money
thrown
at
mass
transit
and
money
thrown
at
the
parks
and
rec
number
one.
K
K
We
do
have
the
tax
base
going
down
because
a
business
is
going
out
of
business.
The
solution
is
not
to
just
say,
come
on
kids,
we'll
give
you
twenty
five
hundred
dollar
bonus
or
we've
got
this
slush
fund
of
two
to
two
hundred
thousand
dollars,
and-
and
we
can
give
you
something
later,
if
you'll
just
come
and
and
be
at
our
parks,
I
I
think
it's
a
bad
decision.